From nobody Wed Jul 1 03:47:10 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8663A0DE6 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 03:47:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ala-I0yTEqpf for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 03:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 268F53A0DE5 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 03:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-5fb2734.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5fb2734.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.19.27]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BF16A0350 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 03:47:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593600426; bh=1ud+lFdZWqxMvYVIqdFK32rIyd/AD3QUGEWTdVQRQfE=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=g4MIgFwGXdcr7WnvZvUjHE3S/0hjbWhLlFWigTfYB2vkYtOMqnltXGjCK4vL3PMt3 HzApndolftfvpvTxMmTvY3XDCXU0wrqMRg3IzKz2HNkK/fSazm98DubYG7o/il3xIc 431YXXwHO3sWX8yrtR2ALNwYtox71qRfBh7FZpAA= Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2020 03:47:06 -0700 From: Lars Eggert To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/wg-materials] 79d894: Add preliminary IETF-108 materials Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2020 10:47:08 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials Commit: 79d89453de2d09c7a6dde8ac1cd04a4d037d3335 https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/commit/79d89453de2d09c7a6dde8ac1cd04a4d037d3335 Author: Lars Eggert Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: A ietf108/agenda.md Log Message: ----------- Add preliminary IETF-108 materials From nobody Wed Jul 1 06:05:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51D53A0A80 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 06:05:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p6K0lkNuP7J2 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 06:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 870BE3A0A7B for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 06:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.61]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF437521925 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 06:05:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593608739; bh=YYmsiRSydRckzNzsB0xaO/uhSeFw1WMtByBi+VVjjyk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=sSrZ4BunsFtFambj74tffbfCdHvkiS1hI9PsJvYUh3v0v87AqOXfSgorY3zW4QppQ gTWhHuMkCvAulDcnOj5EqYJxQTSStILhYrcwb/AmukJuKrQY9OrLWo2zpT5YU7xJdx dSYN5kjm+yrLyEmnEd53pvTwdRpEzdeJA4MgoWWw= Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2020 06:05:39 -0700 From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Source for 15-30 second timeout on middleboxes? (#3799) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5efc8a239dd04_6daf3fe6990cd9641051f1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2020 13:05:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5efc8a239dd04_6daf3fe6990cd9641051f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe see https://tools.ietf.org/html/bcp145#section-3.5 -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Maybe see https://tools.ietf.org/html/bcp145#section-3.5

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----==_mimepart_5efc936521dfc_7e9f3fd1b32cd96c68772b-- From nobody Wed Jul 1 07:25:14 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C823A0C40 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 07:25:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=2.059, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q8mFDBDcCbro for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 07:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAAE83A0C3D for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 07:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D423F6A0540 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 07:25:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593613510; bh=t/Rfpuqwzv1JND+Xu00m3XFR6ricFRFBSH2JMJ0Ghlg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=G8E7Ehy9yknKOaZ41HvY2dSp+1tsqLRASVT1zKDex0+bP6a4S5Wz+WmjFvQDHJexp HO2X6Bb+lzV9PWiDzYvp9uRX5cf3ih6ZG8kvqcipn0mgI28iTlSYWVsAszWkXoO+6c VOJjXilsXnFy9L06OoRQ2cfS/I7K+cILbAbTKV4U= Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2020 07:25:10 -0700 From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Version field <-> Version is not invariant (#3785) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5efc9cc6c4a82_42463fbde9ccd96862817"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2020 14:25:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5efc9cc6c4a82_42463fbde9ccd96862817 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was actually suggesting removing it from invariants entirely. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3785#issuecomment-652450161 ----==_mimepart_5efc9cc6c4a82_42463fbde9ccd96862817 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I was actually suggesting removing it from invariants entirely.

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jul 1 10:34:32 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051723A07AA for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 10:34:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wtvBoe4Fh1Y7 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 10:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B50D03A011B for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 10:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-275fa97.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-275fa97.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.64]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03686A0081 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 10:34:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593624868; bh=II6ay3JiXNARTwQUicuhoRXAno3k3bh99xVFa5IRVnI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wQ4roUeuIOZHDJrYbA6rpQ1Ol3of3t/k7PeplltXT/g+maypX3UdF8vBbbcN5IkE+ BVqe3l5nkWsBfGzH5blBqbcBo9EVLYSsj8AzTps1A7CoWTjpOiLTIT1aYWIsScjkDL 0dzpny5i7cpYYdL2aFrhD10raZnsRxTcEvrw796A= Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2020 10:34:28 -0700 From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Version field <-> Version is not invariant (#3785) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5efcc924e0674_6fde3f86876cd96c12319e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2020 17:34:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5efcc924e0674_6fde3f86876cd96c12319e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would quibble a bit about whether or not version aliasing really violates the existing text, but I still think this change is a good one. 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I would quibble a bit about whether or not version aliasing really violates the existing text, but I still think this change is a good one. For example, if we fail to prevent ossification then we're going to end up with this being the "fake" version while the real version is buried in the TPs.

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jul 1 11:19:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BE33A09EE for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 11:19:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GHHUnzN19An0 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0DCD3A09E7 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.102]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EC38C0FAF for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 11:18:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593627538; bh=WovGItMIxZC4AX2BEkqszp/42XS9RRJ3QdWcthH7Z2g=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Rv2zL78LEshw78Y+n2071cuDX17ibk71ULCCUXjVPuvfSKox2wXvysbQynhwtCvfE K2sSxdYqDRf34l+L/4xvB0yZVGHkYs/3qMXWnQAg9vTUJaQGx0gy7OTNYZ294eMkTY Bc6MmJm6wSi9nnupW8EpcXvkG/rak5B3Em76b/JI= Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2020 11:18:58 -0700 From: Nick Harper Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Version field <-> Version is not invariant (#3785) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5efcd392c222f_27343f89bfacd9641693cb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nharper X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2020 18:19:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5efcd392c222f_27343f89bfacd9641693cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @nharper commented on this pull request. I think this is a good change to be making. > @@ -252,8 +252,9 @@ Packets for the same QUIC connection might use different connection ID values. ## Version -QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte -order. Version 0 is reserved for version negotiation (see +The Version field contains a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order. (If this is off-topic for this PR, please ignore.) Is there a reason why we specify that the Version field is an integer, as opposed to a 32-bit value? > @@ -252,8 +252,9 @@ Packets for the same QUIC connection might use different connection ID values. ## Version -QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte -order. Version 0 is reserved for version negotiation (see +The Version field contains a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order. +This value can be used by endpoints to identify a QUIC Version. A Version field If we end up with version ossification and the real version ends up in transport params, is it still the case that an endpoint can use the Version field to identify a QUIC Version? Perhaps "This value can be used by endpoints in identifying a QUIC Version" instead. That way there's room that an endpoint might consider other factors in identifying the QUIC Version used. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3785#pullrequestreview-441088246 ----==_mimepart_5efcd392c222f_27343f89bfacd9641693cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@nharper commented on this pull request.

I think this is a good change to be making.

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -252,8 +252,9 @@ Packets for the same QUIC connection might use different connection ID values.
 
 ## Version
 
-QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte
-order.  Version 0 is reserved for version negotiation (see
+The Version field contains a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order.

(If this is off-topic for this PR, please ignore.)

Is there a reason why we specify that the Version field is an integer, as opposed to a 32-bit value?

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -252,8 +252,9 @@ Packets for the same QUIC connection might use different connection ID values.
 
 ## Version
 
-QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte
-order.  Version 0 is reserved for version negotiation (see
+The Version field contains a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order.
+This value can be used by endpoints to identify a QUIC Version.  A Version field

If we end up with version ossification and the real version ends up in transport params, is it still the case that an endpoint can use the Version field to identify a QUIC Version? Perhaps "This value can be used by endpoints in identifying a QUIC Version" instead. That way there's room that an endpoint might consider other factors in identifying the QUIC Version used.

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I'd always heard this as "Authenticated Encryption with Additional Data," so it was -tls that sounded funny. But looking at 5116, it's actually "Associated" data and -tls is correct. Fixing in -transport.

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I read this as referring to Authenticated at first.

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Version 0 is reserved for version negotiation (see +The Version field contains a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order. Only so that we can use numbers to talk about values. TLS picked up this crazy {3, 3} notation that annoys the hell out of me. People read that to mean that there are two discrete things with different semantics, when there is just one value and one semantic. You could always write out the hex (as people now do for connection IDs), but then that's just a number. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3785#discussion_r448692625 ----==_mimepart_5efd32d8d5f2d_383f3fd367ccd95c1334a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -252,8 +252,9 @@ Packets for the same QUIC connection might use different connection ID values.
 
 ## Version
 
-QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte
-order.  Version 0 is reserved for version negotiation (see
+The Version field contains a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order.

Only so that we can use numbers to talk about values. TLS picked up this crazy {3, 3} notation that annoys the hell out of me. People read that to mean that there are two discrete things with different semantics, when there is just one value and one semantic. You could always write out the hex (as people now do for connection IDs), but then that's just a number.

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -252,8 +252,9 @@ Packets for the same QUIC connection might use different connection ID values.
 
 ## Version
 
-QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte
-order.  Version 0 is reserved for version negotiation (see
+The Version field contains a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order.
+This value can be used by endpoints to identify a QUIC Version.  A Version field

Ahh, this gets into whether it is necessary or sufficient information to identify a QUIC version and whether we need to say anything more. "can" might be read to imply that it is sufficient, though "can" doesn't imply necessity. But "can" also means that it is possible for endpoints to use the field. That is the meaning I intended and I think that's OK.

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I'm going to say that while the 15s floor is a good requirement, I don't want to cite RFC 8085 for this gem, which I think is straight-up misinformation: "NATs require a state timeout of 2 minutes or longer [RFC4787]." We do cite RFC 8085 elsewhere and that's fine, but the fact here is that the IETF has requested that NATs provide a state timeout of 2 minutes. That does not mean that they do.

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I have seen anecdata as well that showing 30 seconds is an important threshold. I think the ref we now have is good.

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  • In A.8 # should be //.
  • Both "in-flight" and "in flight" are used. It's better to uniform them to "in-flight".
  • The same for "count toward" and "count towards".
  • The packet field ack_eliciting is not referred. It should be removed.
  • The packet field sent_bytes is defined but the field name actually used is size. .size should be .sent_bytes.
  • In Sec 6.2.3 "For example, clients can coalesce an Initial packet containing PING and PADDING frames with a 0-RTT data packet and a server can coalesce an Initial packet containing a PING frame with one or more packets in its first flight". Singular vs plural: clients and a server. "Clients" should be "a client".
  • Should max_datagram_size be max_udp_payload_size for clarity?
  • In A.6, I think that OnDatagramReceived should be OnPacketReceived since OnPacketSent is used in A.5.

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I suggest that we use the singular, since these sections are definitions of these frame types.

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  • In A.7, // DetectNewlyAckedPackets finds packets should be // DetectAndRemoveAckedPackets finds packets. Or this comment is not necessary at all.

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----==_mimepart_5efd70e66351b_37523fab45ccd96025737d-- From nobody Wed Jul 1 22:34:55 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37B33A0CFF for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 22:34:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id efEBGxM2WdTP for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 22:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E4183A0CFE for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 22:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532C68C0A9E for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2020 22:34:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593668091; bh=Bck1zPhSn4nKLGmLVfi0aWeLF9TQE1hRkD8kugBw8Do=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XfBt3B11sMOCQKCaoEyoplc22tXi7y8g+Kxn5l2aDmw7vI5VWerc4SZFHO8IFXWny P39SKSI4/lawLLnlhldddhk2+aPF3Pa0hcfdJsGZIzFeUH86emc7vPrmpS5EVkgF1J 2EIyhLINbI86mwWSrPE/jQJda9rAnNeGRXlkM0Rs= Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2020 22:34:51 -0700 From: Kazu Yamamoto Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Minor fixes for the recovery draft (#3813) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5efd71fb43a3f_6b3b3fd792ccd964210661"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazu-yamamoto X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 05:34:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5efd71fb43a3f_6b3b3fd792ccd964210661 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > - The packet field `ack_eliciting` is not referred. It should be removed. Rather than removing it, I guess it's better to define `IncludesAckEliciting` explicitly and refer `.ack_eliciting` in it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3813#issuecomment-652793205 ----==_mimepart_5efd71fb43a3f_6b3b3fd792ccd964210661 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

  • The packet field ack_eliciting is not referred. It should be removed.

Rather than removing it, I guess it's better to define IncludesAckEliciting explicitly and refer .ack_eliciting in it.

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  • In A.7, // DetectNewlyAckedPackets finds packets should be // DetectAndRemoveAckedPackets finds packets. Or this comment is not necessary at all.

I cannot find the definition of DetectAndRemoveAckedPackets. (I was confused with DetectAndRemoveLostPackets.)

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

Doing this in chunks.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +: When used without qualification, the tuple of IP version, IP address, and UDP
+  port number that represents one end of a network path.

This is supposed to say that the IP protocol number indicates UDP. We discussed this when adding the text, and couldn't come up with a better way to say it.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  endpoint.  Each endpoint sets one or more values for its peer to include in
+  packets sent towards the endpoint.

I don't feel great about this ... it is slightly better than the old text but it's still unclear exactly what is meant. How about "This identifier is set by an endpoint for its peer ..."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 An endpoint SHOULD copy the error code from the STOP_SENDING frame to the
 RESET_STREAM frame it sends, but MAY use any application error code.  The
 endpoint that sends a STOP_SENDING frame MAY ignore the error code carried in
 any RESET_STREAM frame it receives.
 
-If the STOP_SENDING frame is received on a stream that is already in the
-"Data Sent" state, an endpoint that wishes to cease retransmission of
-previously-sent STREAM frames on that stream MUST first send a RESET_STREAM
-frame.

They are very slightly different -- this para says that an endpoint that wants to stop retransmitting MUST send a RESET_STREAM first. The earlier para says that a RESET_STREAM is sent instead of a retransmission.

That said, I think this is basically redundant. I would replace the language in the earlier para with the one from here, which is more accurate. We don't need the endpoint to send RESET_STREAM every time it detects a loss. Only that it send a RESET_STREAM before stopping retrnamissions.

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In B.5, acked_packet of acked_packet.size is used only here. It should probably be packet.size.

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draft-ietf-quic-http.md has a broken link to IANA below in section 4.1.1
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If a client stream terminates without enough of the HTTP message to provide a complete response, the server SHOULD abort its response with the error code H3_REQUEST_INCOMPLETE.

client stream should be clearly written as client initiated stream

If the server sends a partial or complete response but does not abort reading, clients SHOULD continue sending the body of the request and close the stream normally.

the word which pair of send response is receive request, so its better to be does not abort recieving request here for clearify.

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QUIC is defined (per invariants) to run over UDP. I don't think including a constant in the definition of the tuple gains you any uniqueness, and stating that it's a UDP port already emphasizes what the protocol has to be. > + endpoint. Each endpoint sets one or more values for its peer to include in + packets sent towards the endpoint. That's workable, but the point of my edit is not to imply the CID is 1:1 with the connection itself. Perhaps we use similar words to the version change being proposed, "Opaque bytes that permit the recipient to associate a packet with a connection. Each endpoint can supply one or more sequences of bytes for its peer to use in sending packets."? > An endpoint SHOULD copy the error code from the STOP_SENDING frame to the RESET_STREAM frame it sends, but MAY use any application error code. The endpoint that sends a STOP_SENDING frame MAY ignore the error code carried in any RESET_STREAM frame it receives. -If the STOP_SENDING frame is received on a stream that is already in the -"Data Sent" state, an endpoint that wishes to cease retransmission of -previously-sent STREAM frames on that stream MUST first send a RESET_STREAM -frame. I think the real point is that you don't have to send a RESET_STREAM immediately if you've already sent everything and closed the stream, but you SHOULD send a RESET_STREAM if any data later gets lost. See if this new text works better. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r448998529 ----==_mimepart_5efde422ba3e9_27b73febb7acd964397630 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +: When used without qualification, the tuple of IP version, IP address, and UDP
+  port number that represents one end of a network path.

QUIC is defined (per invariants) to run over UDP. I don't think including a constant in the definition of the tuple gains you any uniqueness, and stating that it's a UDP port already emphasizes what the protocol has to be.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  endpoint.  Each endpoint sets one or more values for its peer to include in
+  packets sent towards the endpoint.

That's workable, but the point of my edit is not to imply the CID is 1:1 with the connection itself. Perhaps we use similar words to the version change being proposed, "Opaque bytes that permit the recipient to associate a packet with a connection. Each endpoint can supply one or more sequences of bytes for its peer to use in sending packets."?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 An endpoint SHOULD copy the error code from the STOP_SENDING frame to the
 RESET_STREAM frame it sends, but MAY use any application error code.  The
 endpoint that sends a STOP_SENDING frame MAY ignore the error code carried in
 any RESET_STREAM frame it receives.
 
-If the STOP_SENDING frame is received on a stream that is already in the
-"Data Sent" state, an endpoint that wishes to cease retransmission of
-previously-sent STREAM frames on that stream MUST first send a RESET_STREAM
-frame.

I think the real point is that you don't have to send a RESET_STREAM immediately if you've already sent everything and closed the stream, but you SHOULD send a RESET_STREAM if any data later gets lost. See if this new text works better.

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First one is good. The second one is intended to align with Section 2.4 of the transport draft, where "abort reading" is a defined operation on a stream; maybe "does not abort reading the request"?

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----==_mimepart_5efde5b372f2_43463fbe286cd95c3540a1-- From nobody Thu Jul 2 06:58:12 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3A53A081C for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 06:58:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gT9eY6rqceij for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 06:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o3.sgmail.github.com (o3.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C5C73A0819 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 06:58:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=+hwCageG7cpV+sjexPJJRCYE2y/BNMIvpeY6yyl+hFI=; b= uURcv/5NJ9tS7j4J8PkiJYnaK8OgNHsGokFaipYLAm+Bnzz6618TBq1vmCzx6DgT HchqxMTz4pxtl/fz9taOu24uZLAqeL3a9Lay3JbgFNVeOQgBmidRv5bF1PybYXf5 G+Y5eRHH71VwlK5LKtNTgo6y3Y89a+tcWXkQPh7f5FQ= Received: by filter1520p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1520p1las1-23637-5EFDE7EF-16 2020-07-02 13:58:07.742110376 +0000 UTC m=+226029.628919735 Received: from github-lowworker-275fa97.va3-iad.github.net (unknown) by ismtpd0092p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id agwsJWf_QOOu4jYLZppcYA for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2020 13:58:07.635 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-275fa97.va3-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833196E370D for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 06:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 13:58:07 +0000 (UTC) From: Jxck Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Editorial Fixes for HTTP-QUIC (#3815) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5efde7ef81e54_141b3fdf084cd96c622574"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: Jxck X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak36pNsDj2KB/dJWVJTFFewDafQgncY42BbN1d hP3zc0s1D1GCZecxGfpeYla41a88zgEsRCRWlH9ImmsjAIKWyamHisWAL6fJXeXs/fyc6BNJ7R2Y9N vGUgCldJVrM/U8mk8D4dQHnrvDAB3BU7lEoJPKMjMqmPOwY8wOBfv4LhxQ== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 13:58:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5efde7ef81e54_141b3fdf084cd96c622574 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @MikeBishop > "does not abort reading the request" SGTM too -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3815#issuecomment-653021726 ----==_mimepart_5efde7ef81e54_141b3fdf084cd96c622574 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@MikeBishop > "does not abort reading the request"
SGTM too

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That registry is/will be created by draft-ietf-httpbis-semantics, which also hasn't been published yet. The link will be live before publication.

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Closed #3814.

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Two reasons. The first is simply consistency -- something technically correct that still looks like an error might not be worth defending. The second is the question of whether there are in fact multiple types versus a single type with flags.

I can see the alternate view, that there are two different ACK frames and the section describes those two frame types. The same is true for CONNECTION_CLOSE, where there are two types with different implications. Both of these were two distinct frame types in previous drafts.

For me, that view breaks down with STREAM, unless you want to say there are eight types of STREAM frame and the section describes all eight. The section describes a single STREAM frame with flags embedded in the type byte.

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I've seen implementations handle it both ways: one struct with a type, and many structs.

My suggestion would be to define a Frameset term, then it is editorially pleasant to say something like

   The MAX_STREAMS frameset (type=0x12 and 0x13) informs the peer of the
   cumulative number of streams of a given type it is permitted to open.

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----==_mimepart_5efded78e4d52_51e83f93312cd96448443-- From nobody Thu Jul 2 11:41:32 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437303A0E2A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 11:41:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hYLEwQEdxOFp for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 11:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 282343A0E37 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 11:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.110.15]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552FD521EF2 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 11:39:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593715191; bh=jv/PRghHzxyeRqhIUg78H9WoBSFu6eOVc6OjOR+n0M0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=OG7peq7b3NC/DnTzS03YEb2Y2xeS799w/9CZdnYYILLkGvjgvrFHTJEKWwEhGNYAO RWWDggUJdJqC8KEDSTpDNnzWvasdgzJvEaSzu/2CPhItrSQOoXTzL/JHH7bRg+Xy7M AWPQUptTUyeHBA0cK6tc1zi3OlEHlRBGxo2wMpbI= Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 11:39:51 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Confusing duplication in TLS Encryption Level Changes (#3816) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5efe29f746897_34cf3f8f4eccd9644445ae"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 18:41:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5efe29f746897_34cf3f8f4eccd9644445ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The first two sentences of QUIC-TLS, Section 4.1.4 clearly intend to say different things, but I can't figure out the distinction. Is there a way we could reword them to make them clearer? > As keys for new encryption levels become available, TLS provides QUIC with those > keys. Separately, as keys at a given encryption level become available to TLS, > TLS indicates to QUIC that reading or writing keys at that encryption level are > available. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3816 ----==_mimepart_5efe29f746897_34cf3f8f4eccd9644445ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The first two sentences of QUIC-TLS, Section 4.1.4 clearly intend to say different things, but I can't figure out the distinction. Is there a way we could reword them to make them clearer?

As keys for new encryption levels become available, TLS provides QUIC with those
keys. Separately, as keys at a given encryption level become available to TLS,
TLS indicates to QUIC that reading or writing keys at that encryption level are
available.

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If this isn't the direction @martinthomson wanted to go, I may need a PR to understand where he's coming from. 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These MUST NOT be used to carry application semantics. ...and the fact that 4.8 explicitly discusses how application protocols might need to have data embedded in the session ticket. (Also, QUIC doesn't use TLS address validation tokens.) I think this is actually trying to say that receipt of the session ticket MUST NOT cause side-effect beyond setting up the connection, but it's a broader prohibition than that. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3817 ----==_mimepart_5efe347ddb6fd_68c73f94318cd96c3426ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

There seems to be a conflict between this assertion in Section 9.2:

TLS session tickets and address validation tokens are used to carry QUIC configuration information between connections. These MUST NOT be used to carry application semantics.

...and the fact that 4.8 explicitly discusses how application protocols might need to have data embedded in the session ticket. (Also, QUIC doesn't use TLS address validation tokens.) I think this is actually trying to say that receipt of the session ticket MUST NOT cause side-effect beyond setting up the connection, but it's a broader prohibition than that.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jul 2 12:41:22 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F613A0856 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 12:41:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pOytfSEq9jSZ for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 12:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 041193A07B6 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 12:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a6a2749.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a6a2749.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.62]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54ABFA1EE2 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 12:41:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593718876; bh=q8vwaG+8jHzmOoQOLNdpC81ws3J0LoyTi6vsv1frp10=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HZoPtr+PqrnTw0Vs+UBk2nAe30L5mIsKyYdaGZXSpxlU3TOo+0TBaTv0ZCjGbnYsT 4bsY0h8Wil6Q+t6XB5ZGR5NE4b6sYUoN32A+RSdxKhgWfN5G4Ivk3mtrFLDh1mg4xl rmGyI8Wu7UAu8Y78QW+olhMRtClSQ4zeaFBrvezM= Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 12:41:16 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Editorial suggestions on TLS (#3818) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5efe385c452fc_3a693fab41acd95c1072680"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 19:41:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5efe385c452fc_3a693fab41acd95c1072680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe these are all editorial, but please review. 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I believe these are all editorial, but please review.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3818

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In A.7, now - should be now() -.

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I'm ambivalent on "frame" vs. "frames" here, but I will oppose any attempt to add to the cognitive load on readers. New terms are out for me.

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----==_mimepart_5efebb58113d2_3bbc3fe39a8cd96834452e-- From nobody Thu Jul 2 22:01:19 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4448A3A0CA0 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 22:01:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=2.059, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F7vThlPviQ5o for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 22:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38EC73A0C9F for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 22:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.84]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890E86603A9 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 22:01:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593752476; bh=EEy+HZ8x4Ocvsox/LtPhppFrvm+nVg59GCJsazwMkSU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=JzoTOFqv/lTTMZIj29Kopac/epMNBocEXGU54iX1V6STb60B1eysmZiRn7Pd3xMIY IGqYa8sgD1LRBPXO8X4O0L7ca9tcUhhR90HxPCX0TeI/3WJsieZWBVY0EXACbsIllr 1sOonwneBQ68ridVBM6pCmqWN1mtPZTBDWvfAj1o= Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 22:01:16 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Confusing duplication in TLS Encryption Level Changes (#3816) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5efebb9c79d68_55983fe4fdacd95c48878e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 05:01:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5efebb9c79d68_55983fe4fdacd95c48878e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that this is not separately at all. Let's reduce that to a single statement. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3816#issuecomment-653348426 ----==_mimepart_5efebb9c79d68_55983fe4fdacd95c48878e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think that this is not separately at all. Let's reduce that to a single statement.

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One is better. Closes #3816. From nobody Thu Jul 2 22:03:33 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA0E3A0CA3 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 22:03:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.696 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.696 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aCBUqSEllqMp for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 22:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DED43A0CA0 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 22:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8C68C0F3B for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 22:03:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593752608; bh=0vpK+p/Tdu0h1ShoBBW5j+1PK3PLogWltXJesq9zc1o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lR1IXpTHo4fAGsxLibP1fTJwaS9HhRfS8EI19D2oyBM0kKecE7p3dJAp3169aej3t N8KXFU2qrFhsKuLjzncXvcN2hLnqpSjhC8D1BwSEq3SOiOWuZxxn8DJPgK0nBIv12b DfZzPWd14dMijmtkVLv3dvOkKn62jFXpse8iv+tc= Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 22:03:28 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reduce and un-separate (#3819) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5efebc202be8b_34d73ffd1f8cd96042030"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 05:03:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5efebc202be8b_34d73ffd1f8cd96042030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit These two statements are - to the extent that I can best determine - redundant. 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These two statements are - to the extent that I can best determine -
redundant. One is better.

Closes #3816.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3819

Commit Summary

  • Reduce and un-separate

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The point is that these don't carry information from server to client or client to server, they carry information from server (previous) to server (next). Closes #3817. From nobody Thu Jul 2 22:09:23 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196433A0CAE for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 22:09:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id svFhNb6IwtBt for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 22:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E30833A0C53 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 22:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-5fb2734.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5fb2734.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.19.27]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8C5A0A3D for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 22:09:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593752958; bh=MWWt7ZVA5rqY0a/bIk+ex7GGUiFUjFBPl2uc/4N4fu8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=y1DSbw89hN4q/LcSRZyhQ2LNuQkPHUmiJG7yMJee9aUezIN7VvEN/p6toG9e3PpAC jgnpXJnwVzh6jRr9MEOePQryN+9D67JVpUMkBU20E27e6DgZQ0vtTZyMfKJuWiYMVz YKzse/pVya49UFal0vjYgl3YvBrulmYMaNaB8a40= Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 22:09:18 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Tickets/tokens MUST NOT carry application semantics, but carry settings (#3817) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5efebd7edb61b_5a783f9d934cd9643616dc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 05:09:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5efebd7edb61b_5a783f9d934cd9643616dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that it says something else, namely that these are not intended to convey semantic information from client to server (or vice versa). 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I think that it says something else, namely that these are not intended to convey semantic information from client to server (or vice versa). PR inbound.

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The point is that these don't carry information from server to client or client to server, they carry information from server (previous) to server (next). Closes #3817. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3820 -- Commit Summary -- * Tickets and tokens are not for communication -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (6) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3820.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3820.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3820 ----==_mimepart_5efebdc7a40fe_5fcd3fead1ccd96c7452e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The text here was perhaps a little unclear on this point. The point is
that these don't carry information from server to client or client to
server, they carry information from server (previous) to server (next).

Closes #3817.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3820

Commit Summary

  • Tickets and tokens are not for communication

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In A.7:

latest_rtt = now - sent_packets[pn_space][ack.largest_acked].time_sent

is also strange. sent_packets[pn_space][ack.largest_acked] is not available here since it was removed by DetectAndRemoveAckedPackets.

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Thanks for doing this Mike. It's telling how often I make the same mistakes. I'd say "at least I was consistent, but I don't think that I was :) Just a few tweaks and we're good. > +derived from the Destination Connection ID in the client's first Initial packet +(see {{initial-secrets}}). This provides protection against off-path attackers ```suggestion derived from the Destination Connection ID in the client's first Initial packet; see {{initial-secrets}}. This provides protection against off-path attackers ``` > @@ -973,7 +975,7 @@ order are left-padded with zeros to the size of the IV. The exclusive OR of the padded packet number and the IV forms the AEAD nonce. The associated data, A, for the AEAD is the contents of the QUIC header, -starting from the flags byte in either the short or long header, up to and +starting from the initial byte of either the short or long header, up to and ```suggestion starting from the first byte of either the short or long header, up to and ``` "initial" is a little loaded. > @@ -1085,13 +1087,13 @@ Short Header Packet { ~~~ {: #fig-sample title="Header Protection and Ciphertext Sample"} -Before a TLS ciphersuite can be used with QUIC, a header protection algorithm -MUST be specified for the AEAD used with that ciphersuite. This document -defines algorithms for AEAD_AES_128_GCM, AEAD_AES_128_CCM, AEAD_AES_256_GCM -(all AES AEADs are defined in {{!AEAD=RFC5116}}), and -AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305 {{!CHACHA=RFC8439}}. Prior to TLS selecting a -ciphersuite, AES header protection is used ({{hp-aes}}), matching the -AEAD_AES_128_GCM packet protection. +Before a TLS cipher suite can be used with QUIC, a header protection algorithm +MUST be specified for the AEAD used with that cipher suite. This document +defines algorithms for AEAD_AES_128_GCM, AEAD_AES_128_CCM, AEAD_AES_256_GCM (all +AES AEADs are defined in {{!AEAD=RFC5116}}), and AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305 (defined ```suggestion these AES AEADs are defined in {{!AEAD=RFC5116}}), and AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305 (defined ``` > @@ -1110,7 +1112,7 @@ sample. To ensure that sufficient data is available for sampling, packets are padded so that the combined lengths of the encoded packet number and protected payload is at least 4 bytes longer than the sample required for header protection. The -ciphersuites defined in {{?TLS13}} - other than TLS_AES_128_CCM_8_SHA256, for +cipher suites defined in {{!TLS13}} - other than TLS_AES_128_CCM_8_SHA256, for I tend to use ? where the reference is normative. If you follow this discipline and remove the last normative reference, the right thing happens. But I can't see that happening here, so this change is fine. > +Because QUIC provides different capabilities than TCP, certain aspects of the +TLS handshake are different when used with QUIC. ```suggestion Certain aspects of the TLS handshake are different when used with QUIC. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3818#pullrequestreview-442149166 ----==_mimepart_5efebfc012aed_5fb13fead1ccd96c563715 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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These are pretty uniformly good, except for a few cases. I found one genuine error, and have a few suggestions. I do question the change to add parentheses for references to citations, that is `({{?FOO}})` as opposed to `{{?FOO}}`. The extra line noise in output is a little difficult to parse. Maybe we need to agree on an editorial policy regarding this. > +: When used without qualification, the tuple of IP version, IP address, and UDP + port number that represents one end of a network path. I think that Mike's edit is fine. We can ignore the fixed parts of this, which includes that it is QUIC. > + endpoint. Each endpoint sets one or more values for its peer to include in + packets sent towards the endpoint. I think that we should be saying "selects one or more connection IDs". I might have misread the suggestion here like Jana and read it to mean that a connection ID is "one or more values". > @@ -235,12 +235,12 @@ Stream: Application: -: An entity that uses QUIC to send and receive data. +: An entity running on an endpoint that uses QUIC to send and receive data. I'm mildly negative on this. This says too much about how the application and stack are related. > @@ -357,7 +357,6 @@ Within each type, streams are created with numerically increasing stream IDs. A stream ID that is used out of order results in all streams of that type with lower-numbered stream IDs also being opened. -The first bidirectional stream opened by the client has a stream ID of 0. Removed on what basis? I know that this *seems* intuitive, and we do say 0..2^62-1 but an explicit statement that identifies the first value isn't harmful, is it? Or are you saying that we have too much baggage and we shouldn't let that show so much? > An endpoint SHOULD copy the error code from the STOP_SENDING frame to the RESET_STREAM frame it sends, but MAY use any application error code. The endpoint that sends a STOP_SENDING frame MAY ignore the error code carried in any RESET_STREAM frame it receives. -If the STOP_SENDING frame is received on a stream that is already in the -"Data Sent" state, an endpoint that wishes to cease retransmission of -previously-sent STREAM frames on that stream MUST first send a RESET_STREAM -frame. I like the new text. Thanks. > @@ -1165,9 +1155,9 @@ discarded if they indicate a different protocol version than that of the connection, or if the removal of packet protection is unsuccessful once the expected keys are available. -Invalid packets without packet protection, such as Initial, Retry, or Version -Negotiation, MAY be discarded. An endpoint MUST generate a connection error if -it commits changes to state before discovering an error. +Invalid packets without effective confidentiality protection, such as Initial, ! The operative protection provided here is data origin authentication, which is why I chose to talk about packet protection instead (rather than introduce people to a new concept). > @@ -1189,11 +1179,10 @@ that packet. ### Server Packet Handling {#server-pkt-handling} If a server receives a packet that indicates an unsupported version but is large -enough to initiate a new connection for any one supported version, -the server SHOULD send a Version Negotiation packet as described in -{{send-vn}}. Servers MAY limit the number of packets that it responds to with a -Version Negotiation packet. Servers MUST drop smaller packets that specify -unsupported versions. +enough to initiate a new connection for any one supported version, the server ```suggestion enough to initiate a new connection for any supported version, the server ``` > @@ -2496,9 +2478,8 @@ ensure connection stability. This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a preferred server address. Migrating a connection to a new server address mid-connection is left for future -work. If a client receives packets from a new server address not indicated by -the preferred_address transport parameter, the client SHOULD discard these -packets. +work. If a client receives packets from a new server address when the client has +not initiated a migration, the client SHOULD discard these packets. This is slightly different. It's not as tight as it was, because it could be read to allow any server address to be used if the client decides to migrate. That's probably not your intent. > +included. Including older packets reduces the chance of spurious +retransmissions caused by losing previously sent ACK frames, at the cost of +larger ACK frames. ```suggestion included. Including acknowledgments for older packets reduces the chance of spurious retransmissions caused by losing previously sent ACK frames, at the cost of larger ACK frames. ``` > such as once per round trip, to elicit an ACK from the peer. -A receiver MUST NOT bundle an ack-eliciting frame with packets that would +A receiver MUST NOT send an ack-eliciting frame in all packets that would I agree. (Though it was probably me that deleted it.) > * If all packets that were sent with the ECT(0) codepoint are eventually deemed - lost {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}, validation is deemed to have failed. + lost ({{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), validation is deemed to have failed. ```suggestion lost (Section 6 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), validation is deemed to have failed. ``` > To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint for only the first ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs first. Other methods of probing paths for ECN support are possible, as are different -marking strategies. Implementations MAY use other methods defined in RFCs; see -{{?RFC8311}}. Implementations that use the ECT(1) codepoint need to perform ECN -validation using ECT(1) counts. +marking strategies. Implementations MAY use other methods; see {{?RFC8311}}. The defined in RFCs is a restatement of the requirements in RFC 8311 that I was specifically requested to include. I know that it is clumsy, but it's an important point (and apparently a touchy one). > @@ -3924,7 +3907,8 @@ endpoints risk datagrams being lost if they send packets larger than the smallest allowed maximum packet size of 1200 bytes. UDP datagrams MUST NOT be fragmented at the IP layer. In IPv4 -{{!IPv4=RFC0791}}, the DF bit MUST be set to prevent fragmentation on the path. +({{!IPv4=RFC0791}}), the DF bit MUST be set to prevent fragmentation on the I generally haven't bothered with parentheses for citations in these cases, as they get brackets. > @@ -4008,8 +3992,8 @@ off-path injection as specified in {{!RFC8201}} and Section 5.2 of {{!RFC8085}}. This validation SHOULD use the quoted packet supplied in the payload of an ICMP message to associate the message with a corresponding transport connection (see Section 4.6.1 of {{!DPLPMTUD}}). ICMP message validation MUST include matching -IP addresses and UDP ports {{!RFC8085}} and, when possible, connection IDs to an -active QUIC session. The endpoint SHOULD ignore all ICMP messages that fail +IP addresses and UDP ports ({{!RFC8085}}) and, when possible, connection IDs to Unlike above, this would seem to require the parenthetical. > @@ -5825,8 +5810,8 @@ NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames contain the following fields: Sequence Number: -: The sequence number assigned to the connection ID by the sender. See - {{issue-cid}}. +: The sequence number assigned to the connection ID by the sender, encoded as a + variable-length integer. See {{issue-cid}}. or ```suggestion variable-length integer; see {{issue-cid}}. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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These are pretty uniformly good, except for a few cases.

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I found one genuine error, and have a few suggestions.

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I do question the change to add parentheses for references to citation= s, that is ({{?FOO}}) as opposed to {{?FOO}}. = The extra line noise in output is a little difficult to parse. Maybe we = need to agree on an editorial policy regarding this.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> +: When used without qualification, the tu=
ple of IP version, IP address, and UDP=0D
+  port number that represents one end of a network path.=0D
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I think that Mike's edit is fine. We can ignore the fixed parts of th= is, which includes that it is QUIC.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> +  endpoint.  Each endpoint sets one or mo=
re values for its peer to include in=0D
+  packets sent towards the endpoint.=0D
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I think that we should be saying "selects one or more connection IDs".= I might have misread the suggestion here like Jana and read it to mean = that a connection ID is "one or more values".

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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I'm mildly negative on this. This says too much about how the applica= tion and stack are related.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -357,7 +357,6 @@ Within each type, stre=
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Removed on what basis? I know that this seems intuitive, and= we do say 0..2^62-1 but an explicit statement that identifies the first = value isn't harmful, is it?

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Or are you saying that we have too much baggage and we shouldn't let t= hat show so much?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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 An endpoint SHOULD copy the error code from the STOP_SENDING frame to th=
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I like the new text. Thanks.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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! The operative protection provided here is data origin authentication= , which is why I chose to talk about packet protection instead (rather th= an introduce people to a new concept).

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This is slightly different. It's not as tight as it was, because it c= ould be read to allow any server address to be used if the client decides= to migrate. That's probably not your intent.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> +included.  Including older packets reduce=
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I agree. (Though it was probably me that deleted it.)

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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-  lost ({{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), validation is dee=
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The defined in RFCs is a restatement of the requirements in RFC 8311 t= hat I was specifically requested to include. I know that it is clumsy, b= ut it's an important point (and apparently a touchy one).

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kInitialRtt is not used anywhere. Should initial_rtt in A.4 be kInitialRtt?

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B.8: "Invoked from DetectLostPackets when packets are deemed lost."

But OnPacketsLost is called from OnLossDetectionTimeout and DetectLostPackets is not defined.

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No response to @janaiyengar's question in ten days; it looks like this issue is closed.

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Would folks please comment (here) on whether #3793 addresses this issue?

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Discussion on this has stalled. Do I take this as a signal that this issue can be closed?

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Is the resolution here what @janaiyengar suggests above, i.e., an editorial addition to -tls

that to realize QUIC's promise, cert compression is necessary.

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----==_mimepart_5eff28bdec5d7_40253f8772ecd9647000-- From nobody Fri Jul 3 05:50:18 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B7A3A0898 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 05:50:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6sx2va-iF1bb for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 05:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 823D03A085B for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 05:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83136E005B for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 05:50:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593780615; bh=4pVJ85hx+Sf/VECa81wk4jpWyeZRsYgOZEp25NmFnxw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=H3aF94avxUJTJqMdh1ISpRWqSOIhzmeajkWerW4exau0MA/EgfnYhtRHy60mpLFIJ EL4TQ/sbWvWWslRrbRiSddnuZFJIw/dbzKDMjqRcnJm1VKwE58Y23T/yFom5JU1GZt zLyflgvJSx+BbDv5VYfT7w52Dkugiw8xTANoXlhw= Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 05:50:15 -0700 From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] New confidentiality and integrity limits (#3788) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5eff298798e0e_16933fe67f0cd96018947b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 12:50:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5eff298798e0e_16933fe67f0cd96018947b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There has been some discussion [on the list](https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/6ABngnMhcwvIQQQ-zYC_Ok-0NaM) and #3789 indicates that this would be a design change. Is there support for this issue and #3789? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3788#issuecomment-653532919 ----==_mimepart_5eff298798e0e_16933fe67f0cd96018947b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

There has been some discussion on the list and #3789 indicates that this would be a design change. Is there support for this issue and #3789?

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There seems to be support for this issue and #3785, and the change is editorial.

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As an individual, I wonder if it would be worthwhile to add text to the draft that explicitly calls out that it is not safe for anybody other than the endpoints to assume knowledge about what protocol version an observed version number refers to. I think this it the implicit goal, making it explicit is IMO more direct.

(This could also be something for the ops-drafts to talk about though.)

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----==_mimepart_5eff2aad8cc03_ca03fc58e8cd96021955d-- From nobody Fri Jul 3 05:56:39 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD823A09B8 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 05:56:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Srv5PHqnvEmN for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 05:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 911523A09B7 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 05:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0eea13f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0eea13f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.109.26]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE10282C8B for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 05:56:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593780995; bh=us76p6lbm8f9zbIVbIN9eHXRaj3d/ElgHiJWajKJXec=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qiKvjF3A/lEiSg3dmoKYuAs09A3HMIXjGBDPvBchYmgBQz3i8kd+AEshtvCYuctEu Lq3WO1KJeTE71zl2nWobu8XGZt+ngCHNx7WkSy8BtCc3eRHowSixHkS17TuX8vQBgt jJkTRqvxqSIKRNWiEfXtNyYoKCNMQJq6Bfxutrs4= Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 05:56:35 -0700 From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reset spin bit when probing (#3802) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5eff2b03bbcf7_6eb73fe934ccd960121621"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 12:56:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5eff2b03bbcf7_6eb73fe934ccd960121621 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think what you summarize in the bullets is indeed what was intended. @britram? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3802#issuecomment-653535388 ----==_mimepart_5eff2b03bbcf7_6eb73fe934ccd960121621 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think what you summarize in the bullets is indeed what was intended. @britram?

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@MikeBishop does @kazuho's editorial change address your issue?

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That seems overspecific based on one datapoint and one resolution. A different take on this is to make the observation that within the mechanisms described for QUIC, increasing certificate size can reduce the chances of achieving minimal-possible round-trips. Implementations can use methods to minimize the size of certificates such as ECDSA or compression.

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But this complicates the coalescing logic, because you no longer only need to look at packet types but now also CID fields. At least in my stack, that is an ugly change to make at this stage.

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There seems to be support for this issue and #3785, and the change is editorial.

@martinthomson relabelled the PR as design a few days ago, so it this potentially a design issue?

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----==_mimepart_5eff2c08504d4_6703fa4cbecd95c178922-- From nobody Fri Jul 3 06:01:05 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6116B3A086E for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 06:01:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yLdWQMzMaJMH for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 06:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-13.smtp.github.com (out-13.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DFD83A0867 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 06:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-28f8021.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-28f8021.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.98]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97A826184B for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 06:01:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593781263; bh=LNj4PMWpVrjEHEAOWtkxpq7gCH2LW1p3H0Ies5rBcA0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QwT91geUHEaagHjVCfHVPJZYiB9oDVVtXuieeIHP7SCX8+AsmmNORtLZCRdUgJ/KQ BKAiBvupRQBt7g1pgLnraQyUB7U9GPx5AI3LZkF6gYySU4et56wZk5zlThUR/Kk6TA CcojJD+PZkZPHyr7+mVc/1qafc4B2bEFexE1WTAQ= Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 06:01:02 -0700 From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Improve Large Server Certificate Scenario (#3784) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5eff2c0ea54cc_67443fdafcecd968394513"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 13:01:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5eff2c0ea54cc_67443fdafcecd968394513 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fair point. But it looks like an editorial change saying "moar handshake data = bad" is what would address the issue? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3784#issuecomment-653537170 ----==_mimepart_5eff2c0ea54cc_67443fdafcecd968394513 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fair point. But it looks like an editorial change saying "moar handshake data = bad" is what would address the issue?

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----==_mimepart_5eff2c0ea54cc_67443fdafcecd968394513-- From nobody Fri Jul 3 06:08:38 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72003A093E for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 06:08:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ep6XyLt6-Abx for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 06:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C74903A0943 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 06:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f1f7af9.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f1f7af9.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.111.13]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E74661F39 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 06:08:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593781715; bh=6SfVX4Q+RSomy55s7pNSN74P/Id9Di3a/QvkbRzNTXE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YogBnBrcdBc/ScNQqh1m9ghvgwFSqtotCE8qC8DmG1hN9Byc274EHEfAO/+u4j/ub B/ELpBfLX+BnqjSu/3tIxfOcbXXB/LI2xQ6IMC/21SeJwUEvrbQxxQMYPRd0kK612S fazyWwuJNIs2mC3seUTU2fcpyeK2JJtUCFfBoTug= Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 06:08:34 -0700 From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Versions are for endpoints (#3808) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5eff2dd2e784f_69513f8bec4cd968216824"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 13:08:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5eff2dd2e784f_69513f8bec4cd968216824 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looking at the diff, I don't really see a need for labelling it design. @martinthomson, why the design label? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3808#issuecomment-653540392 ----==_mimepart_5eff2dd2e784f_69513f8bec4cd968216824 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Looking at the diff, I don't really see a need for labelling it design. @martinthomson, why the design label?

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----==_mimepart_5eff2dd2e784f_69513f8bec4cd968216824-- From nobody Fri Jul 3 06:30:45 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C583A0DD4 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 06:30:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p54lq4LPgdNS for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 06:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 722BF3A0D57 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 06:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.16.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1BF6A000A for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 06:30:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593783025; bh=lxRSIqqFD4NNpBH2LN/XgzTdb4Cd/QCI6N4yhSW8DVQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=E3Il1BRbfnMTx3rzSZoCNOnpCUCC6HvcOo6aB6Yk0OIEWis2xKWmYR6Aw5RyJp8cp /vGj6qW4C/X5yQWFdiw5p/jQKmq48+Mcf7d/zSd1QQgoBg9utybGAJ74TtNmAjGmyR phBtqAHvbM77T67qZNB1+l0fZQi1vEo42Pk+Kcfw= Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 06:30:25 -0700 From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] disable_active_migration with SPA (#3765) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5eff32f17a732_1ef83fa63eecd9602033d2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 13:30:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5eff32f17a732_1ef83fa63eecd9602033d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My reading of the state of the discussion is that both use cases are understood. It is just that there is no agreed on way to resolve it, yet. @kazuho said he is not opposed to a signal in QUICv1 that says, "never actively migrate to another IP". I think this is an important use case and shall be done. I am happy to provide a PR; we just need to come up with how the signal will look like. It could be an attribute of Server Preferred Address, for example, or an attribute of disable_active_migration TP (if it had a value and it is 1), or another TP. I am fairly agnostic to the method. Do people have a preference? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3765#issuecomment-653549870 ----==_mimepart_5eff32f17a732_1ef83fa63eecd9602033d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

My reading of the state of the discussion is that both use cases are understood. It is just that there is no agreed on way to resolve it, yet. @kazuho said he is not opposed to a signal in QUICv1 that says, "never actively migrate to another IP". I think this is an important use case and shall be done. I am happy to provide a PR; we just need to come up with how the signal will look like. It could be an attribute of Server Preferred Address, for example, or an attribute of disable_active_migration TP (if it had a value and it is 1), or another TP. I am fairly agnostic to the method. Do people have a preference?

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Yes, this is fine.

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----==_mimepart_5eff8941e79cf_70063f92418cd968133433e-- From nobody Fri Jul 3 12:41:18 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A213A0A1F for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 12:41:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C_TVXW7Bzk4z for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 12:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D2CF3A0DCD for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 12:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0eea13f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0eea13f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.109.26]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2A45210D0 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 12:41:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593805274; bh=QNYxCCXa+nDpEXh6KNnQGhDaOxk63woIR0i3lvYUS10=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=h/Tm50xkAG20wUZhSKH9L+wJgwiQrcsfWPUg0cWh5juoUAuX4JKSkHb1tdeAVSzRj 0c6/hknOO11upVGWCRGxsCIHD+63/ciR1sEuEbEajac2vBlYvDlgKb/HEL9rIdB5UH 7gkSfBoak0EiwEdEsgBCHbvJfpuBrQIvIUCOf988= Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 12:41:14 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Versions are for endpoints (#3808) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5eff89da8d3f3_cd13fbc9b2cd96c135401"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 19:41:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5eff89da8d3f3_cd13fbc9b2cd96c135401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's a subtle change, but it is a change in the design of the invariants. It's saying that a packet marked version 0x13 isn't necessarily carrying a packet encoded in version 0x13, even if an observer speaks that version. Previously, we made the assertion that the version field indicated what version was used in the packet. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3808#issuecomment-653661438 ----==_mimepart_5eff89da8d3f3_cd13fbc9b2cd96c135401 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It's a subtle change, but it is a change in the design of the invariants. It's saying that a packet marked version 0x13 isn't necessarily carrying a packet encoded in version 0x13, even if an observer speaks that version. Previously, we made the assertion that the version field indicated what version was used in the packet.

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----==_mimepart_5eff89da8d3f3_cd13fbc9b2cd96c135401-- From nobody Fri Jul 3 15:34:34 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418163A09D5 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 15:34:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0oH0V3y8-LpE for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 15:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFF463A09D4 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 15:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.92]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58B48C0356 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 15:34:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593815671; bh=WHVtj1NOKjTk9rVY2wy02HnJ+ySJs6tKIGhW8YKLF5k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nmitTUndmczyJFNGJvrmpL+hf800yUiHr7e72PlRln0nN4XY4M84gx5p572Tw9GW7 O/iaLxO0gbhuYuPeJ11JvDxCKizPYMnmiS8S/Qrlcl/Lmo6uJAGkGt7JuhPFqIiHlZ TjVJgwlhaghLy3a3Ly/oMGRw3ArJygWQAt5bjWEk= Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 15:34:31 -0700 From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Tickets and tokens are not for communication (#3820) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5effb277c6145_6a383fb6a82cd960135762a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 22:34:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5effb277c6145_6a383fb6a82cd960135762a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ekr commented on this pull request. > @@ -1763,8 +1763,10 @@ those produced by the application protocol that QUIC serves. Note: : TLS session tickets and address validation tokens are used to carry QUIC - configuration information between connections. These MUST NOT be used to - carry application semantics. The potential for reuse of these tokens means + configuration information between connections. Specifically, to enable a + server to efficiently recover state that is used in connection establishment + and address validation. These MUST NOT be used to communicate application + semantics between endpoints. The potential for reuse of these tokens means This actually seems pretty subtle. Instead, I would say: These have no application-level semantics; clients MUST treat them as opaque values. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3820#pullrequestreview-442570064 ----==_mimepart_5effb277c6145_6a383fb6a82cd960135762a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1763,8 +1763,10 @@ those produced by the application protocol that QUIC serves.
 Note:
 
 : TLS session tickets and address validation tokens are used to carry QUIC
-  configuration information between connections.  These MUST NOT be used to
-  carry application semantics.  The potential for reuse of these tokens means
+  configuration information between connections.  Specifically, to enable a
+  server to efficiently recover state that is used in connection establishment
+  and address validation.  These MUST NOT be used to communicate application
+  semantics between endpoints.  The potential for reuse of these tokens means

This actually seems pretty subtle. Instead, I would say:

These have no application-level semantics; clients MUST treat them as opaque values.

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To give some examples, a server receives an Initial packet containing ClientHello, and derives the Handshake keys. Or, a client receives the Handshake packets, verifies the handshake transcript (including the certificate chain) and derives the 1-RTT keys. While deriving the traffic keys of the next PN space, an endpoint might receive packets protected belonging to the next PN space. Note that the process of deriving the traffic keys might take some time. I see Chrome running on a PC spending ~100ms for verifying the certificate chain, when it is launched from the command line along with the URL to be fetched. I presume that such launch-to-fetch-URL behavior would not be uncommon on PCs and handheld devices. Another (more) extreme case would be when OCSP is involved. In these cases, the time required for deriving the new keys could take more than a handful of RTTs. Hence the following questions, that might be worth clarifying in the specifications: * Q1. How should an endpoint behave when it takes time to derive the traffic keys of the next PN space? * Q1.1. Should the endpoint continue ACKing packets of the current PN space? * Q1.2. Can the endpoint discard packets of the next PN space, as it can expect those packets to be retransmitted? * Q2. How should the peer behave? Re Q1.1, I think that the answer is yes, it should. Such an endpoint should calculate the next set of traffic keys asynchronously. It should continue running the QUIC transport for the existing PN space. To give an example, while the client verifies the certificate chain, it should ACK and continue ACKing the Handshake packets that it receives. Re Q1.2, I think the answer is no. An endpoint SHOULD buffer packets of the next PN space while it calculates the traffic keys for that PN space. This is because the peer cannot distinguish the endpoint dropping packets vs. packets being dropped by the network. Dropping the packets lead to the peer's congestion controller exiting the startup phase. That is going to have a negative effect on performance. Re Q2, I would argue that, ideally, the peer SHOULD refrain from arming the PTO timer for the packets of the next PN space, when it knows that the endpoint has all the information to derive the traffic keys of the next PN space, and knows that the endpoint would send something once those traffic keys are derived. To give an example, a server SHOULD NOT arm the PTO timer for 0.5 RTT data until it receives ClientFinished. At the very least, we should caution the server to not send Handshake(PING) packets alongside the 1-RTT probe, as ACKs for Handshake(PING) packets would reset the PTO timer. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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During the handshake, there are moments when an endpoint receives a packet from its peer and calculates the traffic keys of the next PN space. To give some examples, a server receives an Initial packet containing ClientHello, and derives the Handshake keys. Or, a client receives the Handshake packets, verifies the handshake transcript (including the certificate chain) and derives the 1-RTT keys.

While deriving the traffic keys of the next PN space, an endpoint might receive packets protected belonging to the next PN space. Note that the process of deriving the traffic keys might take some time.

I see Chrome running on a PC spending ~100ms for verifying the certificate chain, when it is launched from the command line along with the URL to be fetched. I presume that such launch-to-fetch-URL behavior would not be uncommon on PCs and handheld devices. Another (more) extreme case would be when OCSP is involved.

In these cases, the time required for deriving the new keys could take more than a handful of RTTs.

Hence the following questions, that might be worth clarifying in the specifications:

  • Q1. How should an endpoint behave when it takes time to derive the traffic keys of the next PN space?
    • Q1.1. Should the endpoint continue ACKing packets of the current PN space?
    • Q1.2. Can the endpoint discard packets of the next PN space, as it can expect those packets to be retransmitted?
  • Q2. How should the peer behave?

Re Q1.1, I think that the answer is yes, it should. Such an endpoint should calculate the next set of traffic keys asynchronously. It should continue running the QUIC transport for the existing PN space. To give an example, while the client verifies the certificate chain, it should ACK and continue ACKing the Handshake packets that it receives.

Re Q1.2, I think the answer is no. An endpoint SHOULD buffer packets of the next PN space while it calculates the traffic keys for that PN space. This is because the peer cannot distinguish the endpoint dropping packets vs. packets being dropped by the network. Dropping the packets lead to the peer's congestion controller exiting the startup phase. That is going to have a negative effect on performance.

Re Q2, I would argue that, ideally, the peer SHOULD refrain from arming the PTO timer for the packets of the next PN space, when it knows that the endpoint has all the information to derive the traffic keys of the next PN space, and knows that the endpoint would send something once those traffic keys are derived. To give an example, a server SHOULD NOT arm the PTO timer for 0.5 RTT data until it receives ClientFinished. At the very least, we should caution the server to not send Handshake(PING) packets alongside the 1-RTT probe, as ACKs for Handshake(PING) packets would reset the PTO timer.

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----==_mimepart_5f01605eb6404_12df3fde948cd96411941f4-- From nobody Sun Jul 5 08:04:54 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3220F3A0400 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 08:04:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O0o2xZztR1Rl for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 08:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D74B3A03F6 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 08:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.110.15]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996D18C064E for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 08:04:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593961490; bh=o40IVcqDIncxBne8ktbiRz2vcQgK8uEFSYo4bGVIIxQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=CIfQPFC0qO3PB9blHA2sVqPsZTmlCa1rmB3MPPAAdqnwGTYV+jQCg9igt1s6tWhGq SbQVHOKnahcSSKkninrBsdKiHkxC4DyP2swodE/5m6z/bKoW+wRjIRQYm6igaAN2j0 N3eRQfuO/9w4U8ZmpiC/tz49Lp7PsrncAaeRnczs= Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 08:04:50 -0700 From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PATH_RESPONSE isn't path-tied (#3797) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f01ec1286bfb_62523f804cacd9682394856"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 15:04:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f01ec1286bfb_62523f804cacd9682394856 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Note that sending the response on the old path can lead to failures in "break before make" scenarios. Shall we mention that? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3797#issuecomment-653899790 ----==_mimepart_5f01ec1286bfb_62523f804cacd9682394856 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Note that sending the response on the old path can lead to failures in "break before make" scenarios. Shall we mention that?

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----==_mimepart_5f01ec1286bfb_62523f804cacd9682394856-- From nobody Sun Jul 5 11:04:56 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640973A0989 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 11:04:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qTn1TUxc8OEO for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 11:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F6FD3A03F6 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 11:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-edec459.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-edec459.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.32]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE67282A0B for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 11:04:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593972291; bh=rPlcwqwsiokcbP6FpfP08PQb1d0e54+AxGYqhtc8P1M=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=IeoUkRsILYBsuy9Qwx4p9ok65DCWla187EcDZFeOV8ixU34pa6FdibCJ9yy1fLtcI iIEI8zgbCGzHrj2dILlUwaqj7Z9CaRuwVU9eMXtFfztKNfCXGVCm3K5OWJrlUeIHwq 3rWc11IY5oeTjB7H4rxsr3xoKLPTDz0ViNATtcFU= Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 11:04:51 -0700 From: Benjamin Saunders Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Inconsistent recommended initial RTT values (#3822) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0216436011e_665f3fc09b0cd9607496ea"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: Ralith X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 18:04:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0216436011e_665f3fc09b0cd9607496ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The recovery draft states both: > [When no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT SHOULD be set to 333ms, resulting in a 1 second initial timeout, as recommended in [RFC6298].](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html#section-6.2.2-1) > [kInitialRtt: The RTT used before an RTT sample is taken. The value recommended in Section 6.2.2 is 500ms.](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html#section-a.2-2.8) I'm guessing the latter was missed in an edit? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3822 ----==_mimepart_5f0216436011e_665f3fc09b0cd9607496ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The recovery draft states both:

When no previous RTT is available, the initial RTT SHOULD be set to 333ms, resulting in a 1 second initial timeout, as recommended in [RFC6298].

kInitialRtt: The RTT used before an RTT sample is taken. The value recommended in Section 6.2.2 is 500ms.

I'm guessing the latter was missed in an edit?

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----==_mimepart_5f0216436011e_665f3fc09b0cd9607496ea-- From nobody Sun Jul 5 18:25:49 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE1F3A0D24 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:25:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=2.059, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sYbnmyzi5pLf for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98FA33A0D25 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.112.13]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968216611D6 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:25:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593998745; bh=RZ3yO39jsqcRzhW/Upt9aNc9vVYjE91H9K4tRARhlqU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=o2BLX8kXuCkUNfFaSqGdp1zVd2Y7IvuEWLanneKXO+jIocqDX/bMba07toEl9U07t D7cSWhL3zezizxReCqt3zCrc+Z/JgmjTlSnfuyspPAjeDbchDGXCY+dcKKAKguRtLX UjVfPRIpu/ebMFW8NPtLrL5twtrTHsHq65s7B5ag= Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 18:25:45 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Improve Large Server Certificate Scenario (#3784) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f027d9987275_2a7a3f8ddaccd95c485f9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 01:25:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f027d9987275_2a7a3f8ddaccd95c485f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That seems like a good summary. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3784#issuecomment-653970397 ----==_mimepart_5f027d9987275_2a7a3f8ddaccd95c485f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

That seems like a good summary.

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----==_mimepart_5f027d9987275_2a7a3f8ddaccd95c485f9-- From nobody Sun Jul 5 18:28:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF5D3A0D2A for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:28:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xpSs1xrbEhdX for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5FEA3A0D29 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.16.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0416A8C0E24 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:28:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1593998905; bh=QuyWvtEeyv+jfi7EM7d+cwx3adZ/XQO0ie3T4afwZSw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=sPaukgJz0vmYWeTCPjv4b6Ll7AmsEN67vSLoZywNMewxT15j86FZBB81qbCFheZj1 IoWQmzRIUbCGmCpE+T6qKOFDi57YUQ77nwsUzmovXzfn7A3MqYH9Sxi73ZIYu2DWM8 Q5gH+kZI6LDMSbIR0EYUJG3EMSpLHuyd5gTCSgIg= Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 18:28:24 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] disable_active_migration with SPA (#3765) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f027e38e8e61_2e8c3fcc330cd96c37636"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 01:28:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f027e38e8e61_2e8c3fcc330cd96c37636 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that we were stuck on the meta-question, which is not about how to resolve the issue in a technical sense, but whether to resolve the issue in QUICv1 or an extension. Given that we explicitly asked this question previously and resolved to defer to an extension, I think that the reason that this stalled is likely an unwillingness to say "no" again. It's hard to look a use case in the eye and tell it that the bus is leaving without it. But the bus is full. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3765#issuecomment-653970965 ----==_mimepart_5f027e38e8e61_2e8c3fcc330cd96c37636 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think that we were stuck on the meta-question, which is not about how to resolve the issue in a technical sense, but whether to resolve the issue in QUICv1 or an extension. Given that we explicitly asked this question previously and resolved to defer to an extension, I think that the reason that this stalled is likely an unwillingness to say "no" again. It's hard to look a use case in the eye and tell it that the bus is leaving without it. But the bus is full.

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I'm guessing the latter was missed in an edit?

+1. I think we missed to change the definition of kInitialRtt in #3525.

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----==_mimepart_5f0280ad3c6bb_735d3fcf0aecd95c122656-- From nobody Sun Jul 5 18:46:47 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B313A0D4E for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:46:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LipYmC8CcvS3 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C31833A0D49 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.110.15]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D217F6E210B for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 18:46:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594000002; bh=xNXATLf0e8hNbS9+tTs5DFB3ZtfDar6UhHL6JYifHNg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QkeY3nJsrHy7RKpRN2/0nkLWHdCWWqv5Drff+mYVp2YBkIH7mTyUx7ZQDCDpBvCO+ NPv2STvTcq0l7tVDvZUTchl+rKojl4cNsO4KkzbS6Jp4+s4bAFLPnq4tgMh6a5CWQO WomNeni1bjVVkpbNUay5aCgSZp95M38kKWajMDOc= Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 18:46:42 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] update kInitialRtt to 333ms, use that constant (#3823) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f028282c30b1_6f993f8129ccd96016635"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 01:46:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f028282c30b1_6f993f8129ccd96016635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In #3525, we changed the definition of initial PTO from 2x initial RTT to 3x, and therefore initial RTT had to be changed from 500ms to 333ms so that the initial PTO remains at the same value (1 second). Unfortunately, the PR introduced a new variable called initial_rtt, and left kInitialRtt unmodified. This PR fixes the editorial issue. Closes #3822. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3823 -- Commit Summary -- * update kInitialRtt to 333ms, use that constant -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (6) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3823.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3823.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3823 ----==_mimepart_5f028282c30b1_6f993f8129ccd96016635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In #3525, we changed the definition of initial PTO from 2x initial RTT to 3x, and therefore initial RTT had to be changed from 500ms to 333ms so that the initial PTO remains at the same value (1 second).

Unfortunately, the PR introduced a new variable called initial_rtt, and left kInitialRtt unmodified.

This PR fixes the editorial issue.

Closes #3822.

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Changing this so that all the actions for a single endpoint were grouped seemed to be the best arrangement. All events and actions are as close as possible in the ordering to the preceding event that caused or enabled it. The application data packets are displayed with a different marking, which helps distinguish those that carry CRYPTO frames. The final implied exchange for Get Handshake was removed. This was, I think, intended to imply something about session tickets. Without explanation, it is confusing. This doesn't show HANDSHAKE_DONE, nor do I think that it should, because that is something that the transport does once it gets the Handshake Complete signal. 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Changing this so that all the actions for a single endpoint were grouped seemed to be the best arrangement. All events and actions are as close as possible in the ordering to the preceding event that caused or enabled it. The application data packets are displayed with a different marking, which helps distinguish those that carry CRYPTO frames. The final implied exchange for Get Handshake was removed. This was, I think, intended to imply something about session tickets. Without explanation, it is confusing. This doesn't show HANDSHAKE_DONE, nor do I think that it should, because that is something that the transport does once it gets the Handshake Complete signal. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3824 -- Commit Summary -- * Reorder TLS interface summary -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (39) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3824.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3824.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3824 ----==_mimepart_5f02874987240_4a443fe986ecd95c869a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I came back to this today and found that the ordering was inconsistent
and not sufficiently clear.

Changing this so that all the actions for a single endpoint were grouped
seemed to be the best arrangement. All events and actions are as close
as possible in the ordering to the preceding event that caused or
enabled it.

The application data packets are displayed with a different marking,
which helps distinguish those that carry CRYPTO frames.

The final implied exchange for Get Handshake was removed. This was, I
think, intended to imply something about session tickets. Without
explanation, it is confusing.

This doesn't show HANDSHAKE_DONE, nor do I think that it should, because
that is something that the transport does once it gets the Handshake
Complete signal.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3824

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  • Reorder TLS interface summary

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[ci skip] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 02:07:33 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/gh-pages Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 1f58a08a07117b12d2b48ce5f0cf49b232c968c3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1f58a08a07117b12d2b48ce5f0cf49b232c968c3 Author: ID Bot Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M index.html A interface-summary-order/draft-ietf-quic-http.html A interface-summary-order/draft-ietf-quic-http.txt A interface-summary-order/draft-ietf-quic-invariants.html A interface-summary-order/draft-ietf-quic-invariants.txt A interface-summary-order/draft-ietf-quic-qpack.html A interface-summary-order/draft-ietf-quic-qpack.txt A interface-summary-order/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html A interface-summary-order/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.txt A interface-summary-order/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html A interface-summary-order/draft-ietf-quic-tls.txt A interface-summary-order/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html A interface-summary-order/draft-ietf-quic-transport.txt A interface-summary-order/index.html Log Message: ----------- Script updating gh-pages from fa9f2aff. [ci skip] From nobody Sun Jul 5 20:38:44 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2833A0E6C for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 20:38:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pj9IP8rTaiHL for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 20:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90DA03A0E6B for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 20:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cf59896.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cf59896.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.112.26]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AF66A0854 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 20:38:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594006719; bh=htLISojY670oWF9IG3T3Uk1kSbQ8dKoOFsKLNAi539A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Y5FczOguzN0RJpx7c6GwqflnjGsrv5xWQdIVBmNs3y6G/GTauiXdLM33JhabRyX0M cO0kveLDQBQdoxpD2RLgvJDU7BhtCCDvwqlRGH9ej5CW/MlAN2cpzeV7/1S/7WGE0j INNb065VpFXKuWkufgMzugS9GEW61bvde7TE7A1c= Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 20:38:39 -0700 From: Kazu Yamamoto Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Minor fixes for the recovery draft (#3813) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f029cbf857cb_2b223fae4dccd9642332de"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazu-yamamoto X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 03:38:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f029cbf857cb_2b223fae4dccd9642332de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The `return` in `for` in `GetPtoTimeAndSpace` suggests me that the semantics of `return` in `for` returns a value form the function. In `OnPacketsAcked`, `return` is also used in `for`. But in this case, it seems to me that the semantics of this `return` goes to the next item. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3813#issuecomment-653998174 ----==_mimepart_5f029cbf857cb_2b223fae4dccd9642332de Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The return in for in GetPtoTimeAndSpace suggests me that the semantics of return in for returns a value form the function. In OnPacketsAcked, return is also used in for. But in this case, it seems to me that the semantics of this return goes to the next item.

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In A, for is not followed by (. But on some places in B, for is followed by (.

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Closes #3784. 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There are a few ways that this can be managed, but it's worth pointing
out why, and some things that might help.

Closes #3784.

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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Jul 5 21:43:03 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2AC3A0F0C for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 21:43:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id knjFrSPqfAwc for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 21:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECC5E3A0F0B for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 21:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-39ac79b.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-39ac79b.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.15]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8538C01FB for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 21:42:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594010578; bh=R2oQBMclrEDuRnjcSjvNHvKN9MiXeqK4kJN/5uXS+PY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=2dfyvBpO6aQztKW9JudJ8abTkQ4GOE2mk+6eQUKFf2utN1DnnI4n8etcGbVaf7+YM pyeAjzCYivp4vFd6PEsp2NkQ8pXHSCFNonz1CyEQ9U7hwsRTt4DrKcO3kp74eLidDV tL/9L+LxjBVc0xrSjLdgnH7TWXOHhlNSzxQ0jVLA= Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 21:42:58 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reword paragraph on HelloRetryRequest (#3826) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f02abd2601ca_286d3fbbd52cd96022221b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 04:43:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f02abd2601ca_286d3fbbd52cd96022221b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This was a little clumsy. Nothing major, it just annoyed me. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3826 -- Commit Summary -- * Reword paragraph on HelloRetryRequest -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (18) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3826.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3826.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3826 ----==_mimepart_5f02abd2601ca_286d3fbbd52cd96022221b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This was a little clumsy. Nothing major, it just annoyed me.

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  • Reword paragraph on HelloRetryRequest

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----==_mimepart_5f02abd2601ca_286d3fbbd52cd96022221b-- From nobody Sun Jul 5 21:48:01 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004583A0F16 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 21:48:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.481 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.481 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8_KMWWkeE5EX for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 21:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAEEE3A0F15 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 21:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0eea13f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0eea13f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.109.26]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11476E026C for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2020 21:47:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594010877; bh=aImWxRDxTal0YsKUVdxDezuYWvOwLUKdqEX5h68PgCM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=c8onfV0GEfcR4j8uBBp0/9QLWf6C76h4A4FXIrXqqsx5QQtQ1xKuxy87aOwL8Q8uk s9iwqHQN35mrovIp7eVJzGT1aD6wVTF9u6/YbnNqImS0NRLn86FBgf7OpZ0jkyuOIH BRIJrXmScax6/meY3gQYtVG9A3kyfhPCZvJKoT/A= Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 21:47:57 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Desirable behavior when it takes time to derive the traffic keys for the next PN space (#3821) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f02acfdd1d9e_1413fd9fe8cd968488713"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 04:48:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f02acfdd1d9e_1413fd9fe8cd968488713 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We encountered a problem similar to the one described here in our stack. The latter part of a coalesced packet was being dropped because we had to spend time validating the certificate. We ultimately added a small amount of buffering to address this. And I have debugged a case where handshakes were failing due to the interaction between PTO timers in different packet number spaces. For that, I don't have a good solution yet; I'm not convinced that deferring PTO is the right answer. But I don't think that this requires anything in specifications, aside from perhaps a caution, noting that we already have a caution in [Section 5.7 of the TLS draft](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#pre-hs-protected). That already suggests and permits (though doesn't recommend) buffering. We could add a note that failing to buffer legitimate packets could lead to marking delivered packets as lost unnecessarily and performance degradation -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3821#issuecomment-654012206 ----==_mimepart_5f02acfdd1d9e_1413fd9fe8cd968488713 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

We encountered a problem similar to the one described here in our stack. The latter part of a coalesced packet was being dropped because we had to spend time validating the certificate. We ultimately added a small amount of buffering to address this. And I have debugged a case where handshakes were failing due to the interaction between PTO timers in different packet number spaces. For that, I don't have a good solution yet; I'm not convinced that deferring PTO is the right answer.

But I don't think that this requires anything in specifications, aside from perhaps a caution, noting that we already have a caution in Section 5.7 of the TLS draft. That already suggests and permits (though doesn't recommend) buffering.

We could add a note that failing to buffer legitimate packets could lead to marking delivered packets as lost unnecessarily and performance degradation

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -{{!TLS13}}) can be used to correct a client's incorrect KeyShare extension as
-well as for a stateless round-trip check. From the perspective of QUIC, this
-just looks like additional messages carried in Initial packets. Although it is
-in principle possible to use this feature for address verification in QUIC,
-QUIC implementations SHOULD instead use the Retry feature (see Section 8.1 of
-{{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). HelloRetryRequest is still used to request key shares.
+In TLS over TCP, the HelloRetryRequest message (see Section 4.1.4 of {{!TLS13}})
+can be used to request that a client provide new information, such as a key
+share, or to validate some characteristic of the client.  From the perspective
+of QUIC, HelloRetryRequest is not differentiated from other cryptographic
+handshake messages that are carried in Initial packets. Although it is
+in principle possible to use this feature for address verification, QUIC
+implementations SHOULD instead use the Retry feature; see Section 8.1 of
+{{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.
+
+HelloRetryRequest is still used to request key shares or other information

This seems to duplicate the first sentence of the previous paragraph. Can we just delete it?

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Controlling the + size of certificate chains is critical to performance in QUIC as servers are + limited to sending 3 bytes for every byte received prior to validating the + client address; see Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. The size of a + certificate chain can managed by limiting the number of names or extensions; can be? > @@ -651,6 +651,17 @@ verification that the identity of the server is included in a certificate and that the certificate is issued by a trusted entity (see for example {{?RFC2818}}). +Note: + +: Where servers provide certificates for authentication, the size of + the certificate chain can consume a large number of bytes. Controlling the + size of certificate chains is critical to performance in QUIC as servers are + limited to sending 3 bytes for every byte received prior to validating the + client address; see Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. The size of a + certificate chain can managed by limiting the number of names or extensions; + using keys with small public key representations, like ECDSA; or, by using s/or/and/? > @@ -756,8 +767,8 @@ In TLS over TCP, the HelloRetryRequest feature (see Section 4.1.4 of well as for a stateless round-trip check. From the perspective of QUIC, this just looks like additional messages carried in Initial packets. Although it is in principle possible to use this feature for address verification in QUIC, -QUIC implementations SHOULD instead use the Retry feature (see Section 8.1 of -{{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). HelloRetryRequest is still used to request key shares. +QUIC implementations SHOULD instead use the Retry feature; see Section 8.1 of This seems unrelated. Was this supposed to go in #3826? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -651,6 +651,17 @@ verification that the identity of the server is included in a certificate and
 that the certificate is issued by a trusted entity (see for example
 {{?RFC2818}}).
 
+Note:
+
+: Where servers provide certificates for authentication, the size of
+  the certificate chain can consume a large number of bytes.  Controlling the
+  size of certificate chains is critical to performance in QUIC as servers are
+  limited to sending 3 bytes for every byte received prior to validating the
+  client address; see Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  The size of a
+  certificate chain can managed by limiting the number of names or extensions;

can be?

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -651,6 +651,17 @@ verification that the identity of the server is included in a certificate and
 that the certificate is issued by a trusted entity (see for example
 {{?RFC2818}}).
 
+Note:
+
+: Where servers provide certificates for authentication, the size of
+  the certificate chain can consume a large number of bytes.  Controlling the
+  size of certificate chains is critical to performance in QUIC as servers are
+  limited to sending 3 bytes for every byte received prior to validating the
+  client address; see Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  The size of a
+  certificate chain can managed by limiting the number of names or extensions;
+  using keys with small public key representations, like ECDSA; or, by using

s/or/and/?

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -756,8 +767,8 @@ In TLS over TCP, the HelloRetryRequest feature (see Section 4.1.4 of
 well as for a stateless round-trip check. From the perspective of QUIC, this
 just looks like additional messages carried in Initial packets. Although it is
 in principle possible to use this feature for address verification in QUIC,
-QUIC implementations SHOULD instead use the Retry feature (see Section 8.1 of
-{{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). HelloRetryRequest is still used to request key shares.
+QUIC implementations SHOULD instead use the Retry feature; see Section 8.1 of

This seems unrelated. Was this supposed to go in #3826?

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Controlling the + size of certificate chains is critical to performance in QUIC as servers are + limited to sending 3 bytes for every byte received prior to validating the + client address; see Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. The size of a + certificate chain can managed by limiting the number of names or extensions; + using keys with small public key representations, like ECDSA; or, by using I think that a logical OR is sufficient here. Though nothing stops someone from doing more than one, and maybe there are things that mean you need to (like being unwilling to reduce the number of cnames on certificates for $reasons. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3825#discussion_r450005983 ----==_mimepart_5f02c350d1260_4a533fe986ecd95c651980 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -651,6 +651,17 @@ verification that the identity of the server is included in a certificate and
 that the certificate is issued by a trusted entity (see for example
 {{?RFC2818}}).
 
+Note:
+
+: Where servers provide certificates for authentication, the size of
+  the certificate chain can consume a large number of bytes.  Controlling the
+  size of certificate chains is critical to performance in QUIC as servers are
+  limited to sending 3 bytes for every byte received prior to validating the
+  client address; see Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  The size of a
+  certificate chain can managed by limiting the number of names or extensions;
+  using keys with small public key representations, like ECDSA; or, by using

I think that a logical OR is sufficient here. Though nothing stops someone from doing more than one, and maybe there are things that mean you need to (like being unwilling to reduce the number of cnames on certificates for $reasons.

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 06:55:09 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/aead-limits2 Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 71684bc7e71580cffa434ca1c3255a6c980f3671 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/71684bc7e71580cffa434ca1c3255a6c980f3671 Author: Christopher Wood Date: 2020-06-24 (Wed, 24 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Expand AEAD limits to consider multi-user security. In a typical multi-user setting, the adversary is assumed to perform some (massive) amount of offline work to break the integrity of a single random connection. Each user is represented as a unique (key, nonce) pair. In considering the same threat model, we must treat each key resulting from a KeyUpdate event as a unique user. As a result, roughly speaking, bounds implied from the multi-user setting imply (minimally) for the lifetime of a single connection. Hoang et al. [1] present tight multi-user security bounds for randomized AES-GCM (as is used in TLS 1.3 and QUIC), so we can take advantage of those for per-connection integrity limits. (Confidentiality limits still apply per-key, as the analysis considers only encrypted blocks, which would not change if an endpoint updated its key or created a new connection.) In contrast, there are no multi-user security bounds for AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305 or AEAD_AES_128_CCM, so we must use the single-user bounds in their stead. [1] https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3243734.3243816 Commit: 89bbe1515f04766c0fa48dfd1b0fd4126fc3ecae https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/89bbe1515f04766c0fa48dfd1b0fd4126fc3ecae Author: Christopher Wood Date: 2020-06-24 (Wed, 24 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fix linter issues. Commit: 7d763fd6e71e4e1c38add4d78dbf3f7c28645f07 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7d763fd6e71e4e1c38add4d78dbf3f7c28645f07 Author: Christopher Wood Date: 2020-06-29 (Mon, 29 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar Commit: 847f3c1666ca1ec23c92c72a9be998e74fb1ce68 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/847f3c1666ca1ec23c92c72a9be998e74fb1ce68 Author: Christopher Wood Date: 2020-06-29 (Mon, 29 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar Commit: e50a65d844bf4c09891bf873d64c9211b28f43f5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e50a65d844bf4c09891bf873d64c9211b28f43f5 Author: Christopher Wood Date: 2020-06-29 (Mon, 29 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar Commit: 69be76608b8f7a81d2e64e210121ddbbe1788c78 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/69be76608b8f7a81d2e64e210121ddbbe1788c78 Author: Christopher Wood Date: 2020-06-29 (Mon, 29 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify connection close cases for the confidentiality limit. Also, split out the integrity limit text again for parallel flow. Commit: 5e7bfa9688a218d75590134a116cedb3127443d0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5e7bfa9688a218d75590134a116cedb3127443d0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Update AEAD limits This corrects an arithmetic error in the calculation of the confidentiality limit for AES-GCM. It also changes to using a fixed advantage target of 2^-57 for both confidentiality and integrity. The inconsistent use of different limits was making it hard to reason about. As the overall target is AE security, the net effect of this is a factor of 2 improvement in attacker advantage over what is in the TLS analysis, which was 2^-57+2^-60. This moves to 2^-56 overall, which is cleaner. In doing so, I discovered that the integrity limits for both AES-GCM and AES-CCM were being set independent of the confidentiality limits, but that the confidentiality limits assumed limits on the number of forgeries. As a result, the limits on forgeries had to be capped based on those assumptions. 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It also changes to using a fixed advantage target of 2^-57 for both confidentiality and integrity. The inconsistent use of different limits was making it hard to reason about. As the overall target is AE security, the net effect of this is a factor of 2 improvement in attacker advantage over what is in the TLS analysis, which was 2^-57+2^-60. This moves to 2^-56 overall, which is cleaner. In doing so, I discovered that the integrity limits for both AES-GCM and AES-CCM were being set independent of the confidentiality limits, but that the confidentiality limits assumed limits on the number of forgeries. As a result, the limits on forgeries had to be capped based on those assumptions. 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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Jul 6 01:33:19 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1413A11EB for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 01:33:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZM40W3B3vzqC for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 01:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0740D3A11E9 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 01:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2e54e43.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2e54e43.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.27]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348D5661F89 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 01:33:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594024395; bh=j90AKmQ2AkySfGJlK9U1QGRivmf+df4l+OF3CbCTCNU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=f55E+FwL+m0uzYQBSMXfhsSK6Fuoc8HaqY6T0fdhh3dk+WDw8l4WTeAUa7aSMNt15 xWsjJaGeo4p98GEb78TPLxbEcrSFgOj4Zkj3p674Jy0MfJG4/3jfn0ox5b5NqdnUMg iptz+CIhAgFcxets0OiSVxCDlpO9drhxz1d6XiKE= Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 01:33:15 -0700 From: Magnus Westerlund Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Invariants definition of Unused in Version Negotiation packet (#3827) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f02e1cb257ad_212e3ff32bacd95c1468a4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gloinul X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 08:33:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f02e1cb257ad_212e3ff32bacd95c1468a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For -09 in WG LC. Section 6 has a packet header structure with the field: Unused (7) All the other fields are either fixed value or kind of defined earlier. In fact I would argue they represent concepts that are defined in -transport. Thus a second part of this is if -transport needs to be normative reference for the concepts used in this document. But back to Unused: I think this field can take any value on transmission, and should be ignored on reception. Maybe this needs to be noted explicitly in Section 6. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3827 ----==_mimepart_5f02e1cb257ad_212e3ff32bacd95c1468a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

For -09 in WG LC.

Section 6 has a packet header structure with the field:

Unused (7)

All the other fields are either fixed value or kind of defined earlier. In fact I would argue they represent concepts that are defined in -transport. Thus a second part of this is if -transport needs to be normative reference for the concepts used in this document.

But back to Unused: I think this field can take any value on transmission, and should be ignored on reception. Maybe this needs to be noted explicitly in Section 6.

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This is for -invariants-09:

Section 6 says:

Version Negotiation packets do not use integrity or confidentiality
protection. A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as
part of its connection establishment process.

Is the second not contradicting what is said in previous paragraph:

A Version Negotiation packet contains no other fields.

So to my understanding the authentication that the paragraph above talks about needs to be done in another QUIC packet, it can't be done in a QUIC packet that is Version Negotiation. Can this be made more explicit or do I misunderstand and can you then clarify why this is not a contradiction?

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And I have debugged a case where handshakes were failing due to the interaction between PTO timers in different packet number spaces. For that, I don't have a good solution yet; I'm not convinced that deferring PTO is the right answer.

I would argue that a probe packet is expected to send when an endpoint does not receive a response that it expects. That's necessary because it is the only way to guarantee forward progress (and therefore we use a MUST). But in this particular case that we are discussing, the ball is on the side of the peer. While I am happy to discuss the nuance, I do think that it needs to be something other than "MUST send a probe."

Note also that an endpoint sending PTOs in this case would in turn require the peer to have a larger buffer for storing undecryptable packets in order to avoid buffer overflow (that leads to performance degradation).

But I don't think that this requires anything in specifications, aside from perhaps a caution, noting that we already have a caution in Section 5.7 of the TLS draft. That already suggests and permits (though doesn't recommend) buffering.

Aside from relaxing the MUST pointed out above, I think I'd be fine with just adding notes. Though I might argue that it is more important than the existing note that discusses about an "exceptional" case; some endpoints would almost always need time to calculate the next keys.

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The sentence here: > A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as part of its connection establishment process. Implies that the version fields might be authenticated. Indeed, the document says that they MUST be authenticated (somehow). It doesn't say how. However, this > A Version Negotiation packet contains no other fields. ... means that it can't use any fields that are included in a Version Negotiation packet to do that. If you look at the current proposal for [QUIC version negotiation](https://github.com/quicwg/version-negotiation), that uses transport parameters. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3828#issuecomment-654119760 ----==_mimepart_5f02ed6ed251b_40f93fb3d08cd96c52490 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't think so. The sentence here:

A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as part of its connection establishment process.

Implies that the version fields might be authenticated. Indeed, the document says that they MUST be authenticated (somehow).

It doesn't say how. However, this

A Version Negotiation packet contains no other fields.

... means that it can't use any fields that are included in a Version Negotiation packet to do that.

If you look at the current proposal for QUIC version negotiation, that uses transport parameters.

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As Magnus noted, the description of the first byte is missing, and I
also noticed that the Supported Version field was described as following
Version, which is wrong.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3829

Commit Summary

  • Fix description of Version Negotiation

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----==_mimepart_5f03336bf6f9_40bc3ff2d52cd9602817ac-- From nobody Mon Jul 6 07:46:41 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DF43A1574 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 07:46:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B9byt3mY_3Xs for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 07:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 512D93A1501 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 07:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.25.48]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442828C08D8 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 07:46:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594046795; bh=BxhNrFSq+PfdXCw+8y7+ilhgb2wJm/K99GZQ+SRNw+8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RYiToK4hXSRNdoA/QM1byR0NiiJ2wMGa7rhHohV44hZYv10lP/ViSnMMfG26Of1gu XNYoZ5foPUjrE5zd9RG0/bsSViiqRQEGtlQYQJlxHvpH1m8llXxumufELPkd4fipGp leigHOqU+ek4q8l6Zi5ifaPtoDn0jAi1a0XSXZg8= Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 07:46:35 -0700 From: jhoyla Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fix grammar nit (#3830) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f03394b33cc5_46653f852fecd96875926"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: jhoyla X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 14:46:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f03394b33cc5_46653f852fecd96875926 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3830 -- Commit Summary -- * Fix nit -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (4) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3830.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3830.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3830 ----==_mimepart_5f03394b33cc5_46653f852fecd96875926 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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----==_mimepart_5f03394b33cc5_46653f852fecd96875926-- From nobody Mon Jul 6 08:08:53 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFFB3A1602 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:08:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QpWWPm7bfiPe for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96F7D3A0927 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.57]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87FFE08CD for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:08:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594048127; bh=mlB7SgiCQGoQe/D9EFBmvIY1oo4nSqiAAQa5mJSkVFY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=sHhV6vlmRbXrqrbZq5+mhqrA+U8gM4mawk4bX/Uu4xCHOr7Wk7W4DqrO3L6GLnj6O 3qmShR2rtMfBdNSg9JlPkLNT1tdug2/pzqZuey0u9dtwL5Jt4zs8nX8Diyn70qaeWu V6zpBx9SkrQEGfiTSLc906OgfSmLleNQfPs0/83w= Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 08:08:47 -0700 From: Magnus Westerlund Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Inconsistency regarding future protection of version negoitation (#3828) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f033e7fc91f1_53773fc53c8cd96c340679"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gloinul X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 15:08:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f033e7fc91f1_53773fc53c8cd96c340679 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, then I would request a very minor tweak in this sentence: A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as part of its connection establishment process. So that it is explicit that is in another packet(s) than the Version negotiation packet. For example: A specific QUIC version might authenticate the version negotiation packet as part of its connection establishment process outside of this packet. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3828#issuecomment-654296031 ----==_mimepart_5f033e7fc91f1_53773fc53c8cd96c340679 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Ok, then I would request a very minor tweak in this sentence:

A specific QUIC version might authenticate the packet as
part of its connection establishment process.

So that it is explicit that is in another packet(s) than the Version negotiation packet. For example:

A specific QUIC version might authenticate the version negotiation packet as
part of its connection establishment process outside of this packet.

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----==_mimepart_5f0351bb7e458_55633fbef7ccd96848958-- From nobody Mon Jul 6 10:50:40 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F8E3A052C for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:50:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wYzbA3RibUXZ for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0D713A0528 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-d93c4b6.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d93c4b6.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.47]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB055282CEC for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:50:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594057836; bh=X0wBOdaHuxWFoLfvyU/8/+3nLchnaBZUElwzl7puRUI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RVg+vXcJOLzDN1G5vy8D+aDpev6Xepi4PQAplasmRZ8P42VNlj14oI9d86hNtA3qI jrqpyOB+s6UmAX3n9FodU878fgUUw247XvcXCu1YjTVQ668Ed8IE2TOTRdRffVFURQ Nnp1Q83QeJoik6LQ2sSbC6qwA05IEjGFG7HyjS7A= Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 10:50:36 -0700 From: Nick Harper Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Version field <-> Version is not invariant (#3785) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f03646ccc5bf_2d553fe26e0cd95c139722"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nharper X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 17:50:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f03646ccc5bf_2d553fe26e0cd95c139722 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @nharper commented on this pull request. > @@ -252,8 +252,9 @@ Packets for the same QUIC connection might use different connection ID values. ## Version -QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte -order. Version 0 is reserved for version negotiation (see +The Version field contains a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order. I definitely agree we don't want something like the TLS notation. The only operation we need to do on QUIC versions (as encoded on the wire) is to check for equality. We don't need ordering of them (to check if one is less than another), and we certainly don't need to be able to do arithmetic on them, hence we don't need to consider them as numbers. By saying it's a 32-bit value (instead of an integer), we avoid needing to specify that it's network byte order. When specifying a version, you can write it out in hex (e.g. 0xff00001d), but that can be treated as a sequence of bytes instead of an integer. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3785#discussion_r450385198 ----==_mimepart_5f03646ccc5bf_2d553fe26e0cd95c139722 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -252,8 +252,9 @@ Packets for the same QUIC connection might use different connection ID values.
 
 ## Version
 
-QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte
-order.  Version 0 is reserved for version negotiation (see
+The Version field contains a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order.

I definitely agree we don't want something like the TLS notation.

The only operation we need to do on QUIC versions (as encoded on the wire) is to check for equality. We don't need ordering of them (to check if one is less than another), and we certainly don't need to be able to do arithmetic on them, hence we don't need to consider them as numbers. By saying it's a 32-bit value (instead of an integer), we avoid needing to specify that it's network byte order. When specifying a version, you can write it out in hex (e.g. 0xff00001d), but that can be treated as a sequence of bytes instead of an integer.

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -252,8 +252,9 @@ Packets for the same QUIC connection might use different connection ID values.
 
 ## Version
 
-QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte
-order.  Version 0 is reserved for version negotiation (see
+The Version field contains a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order.
+This value can be used by endpoints to identify a QUIC Version.  A Version field

That wiggle room around "can" sounds good to me.

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I'm going to land this PR to close the relevant issues, though some of this text may need a revisit based on the outcome of other discussions. 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Fixes #9 and #27. Commit: de42903daf2d86fc8f7088ef04c82f90ce86d820 https://github.com/quicwg/load-balancers/commit/de42903daf2d86fc8f7088ef04c82f90ce86d820 Author: martinduke Date: 2020-06-17 (Wed, 17 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-load-balancers.md Log Message: ----------- Rewrote configuration scope to be clearer Commit: e5303161780fe67427f0074aa2ff756a95a6139e https://github.com/quicwg/load-balancers/commit/e5303161780fe67427f0074aa2ff756a95a6139e Author: martinduke Date: 2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-load-balancers.md Log Message: ----------- Addressed MT's latest comment Commit: 50c97311114cd71773933c9db4e29c1349edb3b5 https://github.com/quicwg/load-balancers/commit/50c97311114cd71773933c9db4e29c1349edb3b5 Author: Martin Duke Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-load-balancers.md Log Message: ----------- Reworded for MT We are deep into the editorial, but I think this is clearer Commit: 656102bd27b6d0e5ffb80d682ee075ca483597bd https://github.com/quicwg/load-balancers/commit/656102bd27b6d0e5ffb80d682ee075ca483597bd Author: Martin Duke Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-load-balancers.md Log Message: ----------- Reworded for MT I do think this text is better. If this isn't the direction @martinthomson wanted to go, I may need a PR to understand where he's coming from. Commit: 8c2b5b66eb5cd94e1d1b29fad74932e6fafa355c https://github.com/quicwg/load-balancers/commit/8c2b5b66eb5cd94e1d1b29fad74932e6fafa355c Author: martinduke Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-load-balancers.md Log Message: ----------- Added text about privacy leakage Mentions @huitema's point about the privacy leakage of separating configurations here. I'm going to land this PR to close the relevant issues, though some of this text may need a revisit based on the outcome of other discussions. 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@janaiyengar I would like to see fixed pseudo code so that I can put my implementation work forward.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Jul 6 22:44:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AF43A0882 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 22:44:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yRlZ_hCKx3o0 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 22:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 510793A0881 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 22:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.55]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5BF66018C for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 22:43:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594100637; bh=7XAOL4XT2NVdrjKjhe/AJhrCUdVgz5uIZI0In+/uQ0o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ar0ziByZv0SR7Cbf+KRbS4N63RTz2OKCZbhny+VAcdXEYVpIkcvw0KaDm1txWz6Yx LpYtSycqmvWnL/Gt/qNnnJJx94cx+8VFR213pv9gmCtMrvKZiSgE3CgwYUtsgelJWr Os3/r1x4t0c6nupJdTnCleiAoFzeku/UAc9goMRs= Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 22:43:57 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Version field <-> Version is not invariant (#3785) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f040b9d8eaa4_12353f91f3ccd96c45986a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 05:44:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f040b9d8eaa4_12353f91f3ccd96c45986a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -252,8 +252,9 @@ Packets for the same QUIC connection might use different connection ID values. ## Version -QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte -order. Version 0 is reserved for version negotiation (see +The Version field contains a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order. Would s/integer, .../identifier/ work for others? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3785#discussion_r450623169 ----==_mimepart_5f040b9d8eaa4_12353f91f3ccd96c45986a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -252,8 +252,9 @@ Packets for the same QUIC connection might use different connection ID values.
 
 ## Version
 
-QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte
-order.  Version 0 is reserved for version negotiation (see
+The Version field contains a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order.

Would s/integer, .../identifier/ work for others?

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I would like to know how to implement AreAllPacketsLost and DetectLostPackets.

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Assume the following situation: The server sends 0.5-RTT data, but never receives an acknowledgement for that packet. When the handshake completes, the only outstanding packet is that 0.5-RTT packet. The server now needs to arm a PTO timer.

A sender recomputes and may need to reset its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent or acknowledged, when the handshake is confirmed, or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded.

This seems to imply that the timer should be set to handshake_completion_time + PTO, whereas

This ensures the PTO is always set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the correct packet number space.

seems to imply that the timer should be set to outstanding_0.5RTT_packet_sent_time + PTO.

I think I'd prefer the former interpretation of the latter one. For example, if the entire first flight is lost, the server won't retransmit the Initial for 1s. When the handshake then completes, the RTT is most likely << 1s, which would mean that the timer is set to a time in the past, if we base it on the time the 0.5-RTT packet was sent.

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----==_mimepart_5f04242654eb4_75d33f86ff2cd95c2102f6-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 14:38:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB553A0AF4 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 14:38:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.697 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.697 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r4Qt3PmcyUeb for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 14:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAC323A0AF3 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 14:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8ACD6A0068 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 14:37:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594157877; bh=S5yPHhtz2SBs4Z+o+z/uw3N+zQDjEq160SOAHOtdhbg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=v6wSlfkGpzXEkBQgPzUt6Un/rx+rCmVmhJvlqmVIi2g210u+tbu3jYEBxynlQYLep lQoe98eUmBNMb8iB0Ip46vjwBL8CDioPXS2ger/ToA0PpuEQTnvfovas70cCgxyG4K bLQxSSNPIUd2B1JgcHbS5wlruyHxr7m6X9rxnps4= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 14:37:57 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PTO after handshake completion is not well-defined (#3831) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f04eb3597f60_58f73ff3c40cd9681722f2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 21:38:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f04eb3597f60_58f73ff3c40cd9681722f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit IIUC, what needs to be applied is the latter. The former is merely pointing out that pto_timeout is defined as the minimum of `time_of_last_ack_eliciting_packet[space] + duration` among all the PN spaces, and therefore that it needs to be recalculated when PN spaces are discarded. > For example, if the entire first flight is lost, the server won't retransmit the Initial for 1s. When the handshake then completes, the RTT is most likely << 1s, which would mean that the timer is set to a time in the past, if we base it on the time the 0.5-RTT packet was sent. Generally speaking, I think that this is the correct behavior. If an endpoint has sent a tail, and has not received an ACK for more than 1 RTT + alpha from the moment it sent the packet, it is natural to assume that the packet might have been lost. There is no problem in the endpoint realizing that it should send a probe immediately, when the quality of the RTT estimate improves. That said, I do see problem with sending a PTO when the peer is possibly stuck in calculating the traffic keys; see #3821. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3831#issuecomment-655149228 ----==_mimepart_5f04eb3597f60_58f73ff3c40cd9681722f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

IIUC, what needs to be applied is the latter. The former is merely pointing out that pto_timeout is defined as the minimum of time_of_last_ack_eliciting_packet[space] + duration among all the PN spaces, and therefore that it needs to be recalculated when PN spaces are discarded.

For example, if the entire first flight is lost, the server won't retransmit the Initial for 1s. When the handshake then completes, the RTT is most likely << 1s, which would mean that the timer is set to a time in the past, if we base it on the time the 0.5-RTT packet was sent.

Generally speaking, I think that this is the correct behavior. If an endpoint has sent a tail, and has not received an ACK for more than 1 RTT + alpha from the moment it sent the packet, it is natural to assume that the packet might have been lost. There is no problem in the endpoint realizing that it should send a probe immediately, when the quality of the RTT estimate improves.

That said, I do see problem with sending a PTO when the peer is possibly stuck in calculating the traffic keys; see #3821.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -973,7 +975,7 @@ order are left-padded with zeros to the size of the IV.  The exclusive OR of the
 padded packet number and the IV forms the AEAD nonce.
 
 The associated data, A, for the AEAD is the contents of the QUIC header,
-starting from the flags byte in either the short or long header, up to and
+starting from the initial byte of either the short or long header, up to and

IIRC, I was echoing language from elsewhere, so you might want to see where else you used "initial."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -357,7 +357,6 @@ Within each type, streams are created with numerically increasing stream IDs.  A
 stream ID that is used out of order results in all streams of that type with
 lower-numbered stream IDs also being opened.
 
-The first bidirectional stream opened by the client has a stream ID of 0.

It reads to me like baggage; it's only notable because it didn't used to be true. On a fresh read without the mental baggage, it just feels strange to call that one type out. The alternative to me would be identifying the first one for each type, but since that's simply the low-order bits with the higher bits zero, it felt superfluous.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1165,9 +1155,9 @@ discarded if they indicate a different protocol version than that of the
 connection, or if the removal of packet protection is unsuccessful once the
 expected keys are available.
 
-Invalid packets without packet protection, such as Initial, Retry, or Version
-Negotiation, MAY be discarded.  An endpoint MUST generate a connection error if
-it commits changes to state before discovering an error.
+Invalid packets without effective confidentiality protection, such as Initial,

The trouble is that in the -tls draft, these packet types do use the thing we call "packet protection." Happy to reword here, but I think saying the packets don't have something they clearly do have isn't the right solution.

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The alternative, which I can now see is probably a smaller change is:

Receivers SHOULD ignore any subsequent packets for a different connection than the first packet in the datagram.

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What motivated this was two observations:

  • we don't coalesce except during the handshake, where we are not migrating

  • some stacks generate packets for coalescing while processing, and so they might generate a datagram with multiple connection IDs

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----==_mimepart_5f04ffb756fcc_49e23f92ec2cd968649ee-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 16:07:12 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1851F3A0B74 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:07:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.697 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.697 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4gKY_1YAmlIF for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B274A3A0B6C for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.102]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4D9A0092 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:07:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594163228; bh=VlMT7fJremhsWyWRo2iLLeK1DeOZF6+E2Wd8dGvwBFA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=F9cgumya4lgPfuNpI2mXS630cG7ifS1UmNa5ebAih1jeJliHqNkzkkle9W7CTqDtm tBNZWR7d1IrAToy55vm0vhWC5AB3/ImcsziOV/GRugctgHxDnCbB6xQ6jbnbRYM0WJ OuIgRgPTpxayXxF5QZAFKmB5raUT/hkP/ONGF9UQ= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 16:07:08 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't Stateless Reset probes from IPs you wouldn't talk to (#3832) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f05001cde5b3_17393fb6c28cd9688813c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 23:07:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f05001cde5b3_17393fb6c28cd9688813c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett points out that the obvious solution to #3765 is for the node to respond to the attempted probe with a stateless reset. Clients would see a Stateless Reset while attempting to probe and not use the new path. That was, in fact, part of the original design IIRC. However, the reason we removed that was that doing so opens up an attack. An attacker can take a packet, rewrite the source address to an IP range the server always rejects, and get back a valid SRT for that CID. It can then inject the SRT toward the client to destroy the connection at any time, albeit only until the CID is rotated out. As far as I can tell, this attack isn't documented anywhere. The right fix is to note that if servers receive packets that would be associated with an existing connection but would not permit migration, they SHOULD drop the packet and MUST NOT generate a stateless reset. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3832 ----==_mimepart_5f05001cde5b3_17393fb6c28cd9688813c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett points out that the obvious solution to #3765 is for the node to respond to the attempted probe with a stateless reset. Clients would see a Stateless Reset while attempting to probe and not use the new path. That was, in fact, part of the original design IIRC.

However, the reason we removed that was that doing so opens up an attack. An attacker can take a packet, rewrite the source address to an IP range the server always rejects, and get back a valid SRT for that CID. It can then inject the SRT toward the client to destroy the connection at any time, albeit only until the CID is rotated out.

As far as I can tell, this attack isn't documented anywhere. The right fix is to note that if servers receive packets that would be associated with an existing connection but would not permit migration, they SHOULD drop the packet and MUST NOT generate a stateless reset.

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----==_mimepart_5f05036930786_49503fae0accd95c1397d4-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 16:24:39 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAA03A0C02 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:24:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JEQvDXN4MqOL for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C2E73A0B6B for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F93A1F4A for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:24:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594164275; bh=m9Pp33HjslZIWAErg0aWfc+FEyLMQ91kT6nDuLxhK6Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=1c+l03hi1FsYv1vHr9MiQxO1j3LW8OMHirLzYzB7dHJ7ic7gUEwW31ir1hgKiL56c mHPzgBNp0Qwrtu0IuDc7aaJIiHwjOtAbEvCoz6XZgIcJlQ76LSy+MEimoa+4y3aU9l kJdNgiayrK2D0wYmE8X0nv9enpibLM3dLP0ap3UA= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 16:24:35 -0700 From: krasic Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add a section on flow control performance (#3793) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f05043378eca_5b613fb362ecd95c463f4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: krasic X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 23:24:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f05043378eca_5b613fb362ecd95c463f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 12:31 AM Martin Thomson =0D= wrote:=0D =0D > QUIC doesn't really address the question of tuning flow control very=0D= > well. This just admits that fact.=0D >=0D > It also indicates why: which essentially boils down to "RAM is cheap".=0D= >=0D Hi Martin. I stumbled across this. I don't know if you are joking, but i= f=0D not I'd like to disagree. There are a significant class of devices,=0D commodity streaming devices, which are very large volume but for which th= e=0D trend is to shave as much RAM budget as possible, HD video devices in=0D markets like India, Brazil, etc. In aggregate, these devices consume a=0D= significant amount of overall internet traffic. RAM is cheap is most=0D= definitely not true there, and they certainly don't ship with TCP receive= =0D windows anywhere near as large as other device segments. This is not a=0D= legacy issue either, for the foreseeable future it looks like the amount = of=0D RAM in newer devices will be lucky to stay stable as opposed to even=0D decrease.=0D =0D > Closes #3722 .=0D > ------------------------------=0D > You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:=0D >=0D > https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3793=0D > Commit Summary=0D >=0D > - Add a section on flow control performance=0D >=0D > File Changes=0D >=0D > - *M* draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D > =0D > (18)=0D >=0D > Patch Links:=0D >=0D > - https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3793.patch=0D > - https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3793.diff=0D >=0D > =E2=80=94=0D > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub=0D > , or unsubscribe=0D > =0D > .=0D >=0D =0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3793#issuecomment-655190036= ----==_mimepart_5f05043378eca_5b613fb362ecd95c463f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=0D On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 12:31 AM Martin Thomson <notifications@github.co= m>
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=0D
=0D > QUIC doesn't really address the question of tuning flow control = very
=0D > well. This just admits that fact.
=0D >
=0D > It also indicates why: which essentially boils down to "RAM is = cheap".
=0D >
=0D Hi Martin. I stumbled across this. I don't know if you are joking, b= ut if
=0D not I'd like to disagree. There are a significant class of devices,<= br>=0D commodity streaming devices, which are very large volume but for which th= e
=0D trend is to shave as much RAM budget as possible, HD video devices in
= =0D markets like India, Brazil, etc. In aggregate, these devices consume a=0D significant amount of overall internet traffic. RAM is cheap is most=0D definitely not true there, and they certainly don't ship with TCP rec= eive
=0D windows anywhere near as large as other device segments. This is not a=0D legacy issue either, for the foreseeable future it looks like the amount = of
=0D RAM in newer devices will be lucky to stay stable as opposed to even
=0D= decrease.
=0D
=0D > Closes #3722 <https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3722&g= t;.
=0D > ------------------------------
=0D > You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:
=0D= >
=0D > https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3793
=0D > Commit Summary
=0D >
=0D > - Add a section on flow control performance
=0D >
=0D > File Changes
=0D >
=0D > - *M* draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
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=0D > (18)
=0D >
=0D > Patch Links:
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=0D > - https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3793.patch
=0D > - https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3793.diff
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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5f05043378eca_5b613fb362ecd95c463f4-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 16:29:13 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334B63A0C0C for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:29:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.697 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.697 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pBuY5Szdq8UZ for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A23C3A0C08 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1dbcc59.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1dbcc59.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.105.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E688C19E5 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:29:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594164547; bh=uW1AG4AVpE6OAckM/b6f0amPMdvl26KNRXvuNXoSPvk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Ro9T4JEcV+unaUyP9dGrp/6MznxNIztQ2TCPurOmXyK+TpmPBqQPeLVzI75aYC0to nhoT/yWdPm3czV+el94ibkC9PLNkjjJhzPeCQPhfiF3xzb2rbHQDMh3kBvngS5ptdE eI+TW2e7JSdNzodCDcF4eEnC0xvlvt+sVd6lCzLI= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 16:29:07 -0700 From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider a specific error when switching to an HTTP/3 connection that does not support an extension (#3833) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0505439e05_3a0f3fc976ccd95c1093b9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 23:29:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0505439e05_3a0f3fc976ccd95c1093b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was reminded of an observation about Alt-Svc and Extensions that I made back in Oct '19 and posted to the HTTP WG https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2019OctDec/0022.html To summarise the post: RFC7838 defines the status code 421 Misdirected Request which can be used in some failure cases. Now imagine: an HTTP/2 server supports WebSocket (RFC 8441) negotiated via SETTINGS_ENABLE_CONNECT. It advertises HTTP/3 using Alt-Svc, a client that switches over to HTTP/3 only to find that WebSockets are not supported in that version. The client may well decide to abort the connection at this point and fallback to H2. Having a specific error code to signal this case (similar in spirit to Status 421) could help endpoints discover this type of error. This problem is not unique to WebSockets, there may be other extension scenarios that could affect switching between H2->H3, H3->H2, H2->H2, and H3->H3. We might benefit from defining a specific error code as part of HTTP/3 from the get-go. However, given the chance of error in HTTP/2 this could be something that suits just creating an extension document to cover both versions. I'm open to either option so creating this issue to get better visibility and input. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3833 ----==_mimepart_5f0505439e05_3a0f3fc976ccd95c1093b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I was reminded of an observation about Alt-Svc and Extensions that I made back in Oct '19 and posted to the HTTP WG https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2019OctDec/0022.html

To summarise the post:

RFC7838 defines the status code 421 Misdirected Request which can be used in some failure cases.

Now imagine: an HTTP/2 server supports WebSocket (RFC 8441) negotiated via SETTINGS_ENABLE_CONNECT. It advertises HTTP/3 using Alt-Svc, a client that switches over to HTTP/3 only to find that WebSockets are not supported in that version. The client may well decide to abort the connection at this point and fallback to H2. Having a specific error code to signal this case (similar in spirit to Status 421) could help endpoints discover this type of error.

This problem is not unique to WebSockets, there may be other extension scenarios that could affect switching between H2->H3, H3->H2, H2->H2, and H3->H3.

We might benefit from defining a specific error code as part of HTTP/3 from the get-go. However, given the chance of error in HTTP/2 this could be something that suits just creating an extension document to cover both versions. I'm open to either option so creating this issue to get better visibility and input.

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----==_mimepart_5f0505439e05_3a0f3fc976ccd95c1093b9-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 16:34:17 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C168D3A0C11 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:34:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.481 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.481 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VcPnwSdLkOFr for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D1513A0C0E for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-fa7043e.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-fa7043e.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.109.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C488660E64 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 16:34:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594164853; bh=kKXpH/rHpOrEPKQA/xzIrUwVRcQLIcWZARUQlJEwPR0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=yFnpSf2DjYZQPln+RK+Euh05UE0T3h6gU403+LL0ohKZztQISSP5+/wVvqfMjcCxo QXVivlEYQ7zeKC7HRPJfxlZAzou/pvmuU6uY+ijRvQzXAxS3XmXyT52SvD7AYIiS4c YumowR6R1Ioyi9I1vhXTyI+RcBeLvqKY2Pr0Bmrc= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 16:34:13 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Desirable behavior when it takes time to derive the traffic keys for the next PN space (#3821) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0506753c5e7_130b3ffaf18cd96882672"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 23:34:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0506753c5e7_130b3ffaf18cd96882672 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FWIW, [section 4.1.4 of the TLS draft](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#name-encryption-level-changes) states that: _as keys at a given encryption level become available to TLS, TLS indicates to QUIC that reading or writing keys at that encryption level are available. These events are not asynchronous; they always occur immediately after TLS is provided with new handshake bytes, or after TLS produces handshake bytes._ Part of the problem is that this is untrue. TLS stacks sometimes take time in providing the net set of traffic keys. And QUIC stacks do not even pretend that TLS stacks are acting in a synchronous manner. Instead, they act intentionally send ACKs for Handshake packets that are later than the 1-RTT packets they buffer. This is a behavior that is observable from the peer, and leads to the exit of slow start depending on how you design the loss recovery. I think we might want to use normative words stating what the expectations are. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3821#issuecomment-655193479 ----==_mimepart_5f0506753c5e7_130b3ffaf18cd96882672 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

FWIW, section 4.1.4 of the TLS draft states that: as keys at a given encryption level become available to TLS, TLS indicates to QUIC that reading or writing keys at that encryption level are available. These events are not asynchronous; they always occur immediately after TLS is provided with new handshake bytes, or after TLS produces handshake bytes.

Part of the problem is that this is untrue. TLS stacks sometimes take time in providing the net set of traffic keys. And QUIC stacks do not even pretend that TLS stacks are acting in a synchronous manner. Instead, they act intentionally send ACKs for Handshake packets that are later than the 1-RTT packets they buffer.

This is a behavior that is observable from the peer, and leads to the exit of slow start depending on how you design the loss recovery. I think we might want to use normative words stating what the expectations are.

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----==_mimepart_5f0506753c5e7_130b3ffaf18cd96882672-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 17:35:50 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44F73A0CBA for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:35:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.697 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.697 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UQA5it5x06wD for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 449EC3A0CB9 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0092823DA for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:35:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594168545; bh=GehdUoLo9abtbVwK0SNN0UkJtmqVVtP60W5QETTzGDE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vecxRSUScAzS+8IG4efct7Ea9CAiVAECVUc9vzcRpXFJV3cRqO8gGnlAhsvwamz2I bcxmZABoWCYGxCHLD2DbXpTbh+TcmAJlSFAwioxqmPeMkguOehC7jBUk13zUQb1/hE Lp7tF5Iz38y5CWNAUg41sbyVQiYLFQfCbbCnPwhA= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 17:35:45 -0700 From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove amplification throttle if the server receives Initial that echoes its high entropy SCID. (#3834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0514e16e686_2b9a3f9047acd96c56242"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 00:35:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0514e16e686_2b9a3f9047acd96c56242 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Suppose you have a large SH, for instance due to PQ crypto, in which case it will have to span multiple packets. If it exceeds three packets, then it will not be able to fit into a single flight. Ideally this would look something like this: ``` C S Initial (CH) -----------------------> <---------------------- Initial (SH1) <---------------------- Initial (SH2) <---------------------- Initial (SH3) Initial (ACK) ----------------------> <---------------------- Initial (SH4) <---------------------- Initial (SH5) <---------------------- Initial (SH6) <---------------------- Initial (SH7) <---------------------- Initial (SH8) <---------------------- Initial (SH9) ``` However, as I read the text, the server is actually only permitted to send three packets in response to the ACK. The good news is that because the client is required to send fully padded packets, so you at least get to send 3600 octets or so per RT, but if the SH is >7K this is pretty annoying. I believe that there is a straightforward compatible change that would allow relaxing this restriction: if the server uses a reasonably long SCID, then when the client responds with an initial with DCID set to that SCID (which it is supposed to do anyway by my reading of S 7.2), then it is implicitly a proof of reachability, and the server could ignore the amplification limit. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3834 ----==_mimepart_5f0514e16e686_2b9a3f9047acd96c56242 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Suppose you have a large SH, for instance due to PQ crypto, in which
case it will have to span multiple packets. If it exceeds three
packets, then it will not be able to fit into a single flight. Ideally
this would look something like this:

C                                   S
Initial (CH) ----------------------->
<---------------------- Initial (SH1)
<---------------------- Initial (SH2)
<---------------------- Initial (SH3)
Initial (ACK) ---------------------->
<---------------------- Initial (SH4)
<---------------------- Initial (SH5)
<---------------------- Initial (SH6)
<---------------------- Initial (SH7)
<---------------------- Initial (SH8)
<---------------------- Initial (SH9)

However, as I read the text, the server is actually only permitted to
send three packets in response to the ACK. The good news is that
because the client is required to send fully padded packets, so you at
least get to send 3600 octets or so per RT, but if the SH is >7K this
is pretty annoying.

I believe that there is a straightforward compatible change that would
allow relaxing this restriction: if the server uses a reasonably long
SCID, then when the client responds with an initial with DCID set to
that SCID (which it is supposed to do anyway by my reading of S 7.2),
then it is implicitly a proof of reachability, and the server could
ignore the amplification limit.

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1165,9 +1155,9 @@ discarded if they indicate a different protocol version than that of the
 connection, or if the removal of packet protection is unsuccessful once the
 expected keys are available.
 
-Invalid packets without packet protection, such as Initial, Retry, or Version
-Negotiation, MAY be discarded.  An endpoint MUST generate a connection error if
-it commits changes to state before discovering an error.
+Invalid packets without effective confidentiality protection, such as Initial,

I see your point. Let's move this to a new issue.

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Generally speaking I would prefer each extension defining a SETTINGS parameter to indicate its availability, so that endpoints would not burn a round-trip testing if a feature is available on an established connection.

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----==_mimepart_5f051572d67a2_16cb3facb1acd9681306c-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 17:40:47 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FFA3A0CC1 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:40:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EPMJO3m1mgpz for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B0B73A0CBC for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-b2150d3.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b2150d3.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.113.12]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4B48C0DF0 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:40:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594168843; bh=w47vPAlIYOYml/nJX4xpJB7BsiRG0HPBQ+oWyXgBBPc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZNn5BMU/q21rJ2kz7PTOB/3a3pW5im/weZHDfOe4HSlwfTzUaQGYoYpNSXsrWX53k AMrYlM4cIU/UhXnojdx8KLLBsLB+oUjgXe7juI2Ihgz5fz6+TeuxrcoZ+jjNNhX1q7 DDKEdrFmGfaR+suGwZs61YFxh3vZ4BxEoeCCRP6s= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 17:40:43 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't Stateless Reset probes from IPs you wouldn't talk to (#3832) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f05160bdb90c_20133fe958ecd96c877ec"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 00:40:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f05160bdb90c_20133fe958ecd96c877ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that we do have this text. A [whole section](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#name-stateless-reset-oracle) in fact: > If a packet can be routed to different instances that share a static key, for example by changing an IP address or port, then an attacker can cause the server to send a stateless reset. The subtle distinction here is not that you are unable to respond, but instead unwilling. Why would you send a stateless reset when you are pretending that the route doesn't work? (Sorry, this just seems like self-inflicted harm.) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3832#issuecomment-655212549 ----==_mimepart_5f05160bdb90c_20133fe958ecd96c877ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think that we do have this text. A whole section in fact:

If a packet can be routed to different instances that share a static key, for example by changing an IP address or port, then an attacker can cause the server to send a stateless reset.

The subtle distinction here is not that you are unable to respond, but instead unwilling. Why would you send a stateless reset when you are pretending that the route doesn't work? (Sorry, this just seems like self-inflicted harm.)

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----==_mimepart_5f05160bdb90c_20133fe958ecd96c877ec-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 17:45:06 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37E43A0544 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:45:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ciyND7b489cg for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 619353A0542 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.39]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73241660A51 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:45:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594169101; bh=Tl5mdYbvUaSzyj4XLSbZDQ/48h5CSsPR2LM0/AnSNCI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lnh8cyAfGI5o++vhjU2Tt+95VPVggWU0aDGYQtXgiWTTxFXmthehD3PVSCNffyNqC 1TpBI3AwdfMUqPb7p99wUnuXhkYp2MOLQudW+TfNg/0XXGYZBhsNq5YftNQ//ZZI94 AS08a6QsIAhmcDFHiZilDJx9KS4g4B/GrX0RQ4Pk= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 17:45:01 -0700 From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Version field <-> Version is not invariant (#3785) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f05170d647c4_1c5c3f86eb8cd9601274e9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 00:45:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f05170d647c4_1c5c3f86eb8cd9601274e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @DavidSchinazi commented on this pull request. > @@ -252,8 +252,9 @@ Packets for the same QUIC connection might use different connection ID values. ## Version -QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte -order. Version 0 is reserved for version negotiation (see +The Version field contains a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order. I personally like `32-bit identifier`. `32-bit opaque identifier` might be even better, or could be overkill. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3785#discussion_r451219888 ----==_mimepart_5f05170d647c4_1c5c3f86eb8cd9601274e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -252,8 +252,9 @@ Packets for the same QUIC connection might use different connection ID values.
 
 ## Version
 
-QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte
-order.  Version 0 is reserved for version negotiation (see
+The Version field contains a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order.

I personally like 32-bit identifier. 32-bit opaque identifier might be even better, or could be overkill.

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This would be conditional on the server choosing a connection ID that has enough entropy (we seem to have decided that 64 bits is the benchmark). @huitema has made the same comment on occasion.

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The Send state should have a loop for sending STREAM data. I agree this is sorta OK, but it's confusing.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 7 17:48:36 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FA93A05A0 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:48:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bVBqUHffJ-jp for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73BC73A0064 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-fa7043e.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-fa7043e.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.109.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99C6282D49 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:48:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594169313; bh=s3m8rC+gH4d95E1Bk9TrAPtiCPC5A2YfqAFyZ/yeKEU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=gP71uXTTKu3ULgBNts6QqsNKLnIdNMbi3CivWGvT2KwnL2AelWcvE37/kF54oWJ/2 TNSEBA2wLALVksnjDsHN1aF7h9RA1Z7V41VE6GCl02khausfvxynib/lZbvwJ8pFky cwoC2evimgug2Q+GIuL8isnMknO0ECeS/s20DpqE= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 17:48:33 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PTO after handshake completion is not well-defined (#3831) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0517e1a9e8f_48653fcfb10cd9681369b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 00:48:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0517e1a9e8f_48653fcfb10cd9681369b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So, @kazuho is your assertion that in this case you would unblock the sending of PTO, notice that the time has passed, and send a probe immediately? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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So, @kazuho is your assertion that in this case you would unblock the sending of PTO, notice that the time has passed, and send a probe immediately?

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----==_mimepart_5f0517e1a9e8f_48653fcfb10cd9681369b-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 17:59:27 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7F03A0C9C for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:59:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EKbT1IKQI0g5 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36D7A3A00AD for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588536E1E0D for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:59:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594169964; bh=FOB2zOcpbWZoWHj8/FSwe6jlviN2+cpQKNZSip8E+Vc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ThK2JZG9jgev1sK/G1b/vUo1rATe00lg6bdQmvDOe8MmIl47EAlAShi+Ec6J4yz8x KdhwHZVGWdoEqjuNDhtx5RffHpeWYtCf3IkwFwTE5h+E/j2JzQNKxeVgfLgtnM2gQi S17gwsALoCNiQ2ZcP0EGbe0scuNUwfL8P4W0fO3g= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 17:59:24 -0700 From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] What does "commits changes to a state" mean? (#3836) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f051a6c47e53_56923fb5498cd960139486"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 00:59:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f051a6c47e53_56923fb5498cd960139486 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit S 5.2. says: Invalid packets without packet protection, such as Initial, Retry, or Version Negotiation, MAY be discarded. An endpoint MUST generate a connection error if it commits changes to state before discovering an error. I'm having trouble parsing this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3836 ----==_mimepart_5f051a6c47e53_56923fb5498cd960139486 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

S 5.2. says:

Invalid packets without packet protection, such as Initial, Retry, or Version
Negotiation, MAY be discarded. An endpoint MUST generate a connection error if
it commits changes to state before discovering an error.

I'm having trouble parsing this.

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S 5.2.2 says:

Packets with a supported version, or no version field, are matched to a
connection using the connection ID or - for packets with zero-length connection
IDs - the local address and port. If the packet doesn't match an existing
connection, the server continues below.

So, this tells us what to do if we don't match, but not if we do match. I know this is a nit, but I think there should be some kind of pointer after the first sentence.

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Generally speaking, I think that this is the correct behavior. If an endpoint has sent a tail, and has not received an ACK for more than 1 RTT + alpha from the moment it sent the packet, it is natural to assume that the packet might have been lost.

The problem is that this is not a "real" tail. It's only a tail because we have different packet number spaces. Note that the server completes the handshake when receiving the CFIN, which is also when it derives the client 1-RTT secret. This means there's no way it could have received and processed an ACK for any 1-RTT packet.

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----==_mimepart_5f051b1aa6570_70953f86f22cd9641946bb-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 18:18:20 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53F43A0CDC for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:18:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KgufrsOUAjaH for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-16.smtp.github.com (out-16.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90DCB3A0CDB for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.105.50]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0430E1213D6 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:18:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594171097; bh=QySiae7zoJ7WK7i/OtzHbgY+qW1crM/KOph4vLCtB/s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dhj3QB6IPQd7WOZIrQaA2Lsuiqv/Y7A6py8x/55aNEqm8i5v2qI3VR3F9zHoZf0df T6bGqyRO1XDcymBkw90Y9XhlPu71J29RW4JLDaAh9Vmhy6G7IF7xagRgUaifQCOlhX 0vCklZ9MTP5w89KgGIhPR1S+A986SkhSxnKxTnJo= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 18:18:16 -0700 From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove amplification throttle if the server receives Initial that echoes its high entropy SCID. (#3834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f051ed8b25c7_42523f8b232cd95c27272d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 01:18:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f051ed8b25c7_42523f8b232cd95c27272d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 5:44 PM Martin Thomson wrote: > This would be conditional on the server choosing a connection ID that has > enough entropy (we seem to have decided that 64 bits is the benchmark). > @huitema has made the same comment on > occasion. > Yes, agreed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3834#issuecomment-655222919 ----==_mimepart_5f051ed8b25c7_42523f8b232cd95c27272d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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> This would be conditional on the server choosing a connection ID that has
> enough entropy (we seem to have decided that 64 bits is the benchmark).
> @huitema <https://github.com/huitema> has made the same comment on
> occasion.
>
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----==_mimepart_5f051ed8b25c7_42523f8b232cd95c27272d-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 18:20:15 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D933A0CE6 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:20:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WAGDVxC3r-HD for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 897B93A0CE4 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.39]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623D366098E for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:20:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594171211; bh=R2Sv7AWYdVznDek331UInXWpuWi137sNefsBhqPQKgE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=UwBgAvgaG2kFJg1Bh0gYS251szmnNfoQWTBsVz0Sxl2J+9d4bnRCx7gtyKsp4A+cD fXSjCQyJO5qSCr39Y9FHgRKH9GdO71opo0DwvyvyXixZY6tqQiGdwH2qV/g7KYOOLe xRYiG0xUNSqjZ7mpWvmebSyPk+MvVUVhaLoNTTZo= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 18:20:11 -0700 From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider a specific error when switching to an HTTP/3 connection that does not support an extension (#3833) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f051f4b53126_1c353f86eb8cd960243033"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 01:20:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f051f4b53126_1c353f86eb8cd960243033 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not sure I follow, sorry. In my contrived example, the extension is negotiated via a SETTINGS parameter but it requires the client to burn an HTTP/3 handshake to learn that the HTTP/3 version of the same server instance does not implement the extension. At that stage there are a few options, one would be to send CONNECTION_CLOSE with error code H3_DESIRED_EXTENSION_UNSUPPORTED, one would be to migrate the vanilla HTTP requests to the H3 connection and maintain H2 only for the websocket. I think leaving most of that up to the implementation is fine, but having an error code could allow a server to discriminate this type of client problem from others. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3833#issuecomment-655223549 ----==_mimepart_5f051f4b53126_1c353f86eb8cd960243033 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm not sure I follow, sorry.

In my contrived example, the extension is negotiated via a SETTINGS parameter but it requires the client to burn an HTTP/3 handshake to learn that the HTTP/3 version of the same server instance does not implement the extension. At that stage there are a few options, one would be to send CONNECTION_CLOSE with error code H3_DESIRED_EXTENSION_UNSUPPORTED, one would be to migrate the vanilla HTTP requests to the H3 connection and maintain H2 only for the websocket. I think leaving most of that up to the implementation is fine, but having an error code could allow a server to discriminate this type of client problem from others.

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----==_mimepart_5f051f4b53126_1c353f86eb8cd960243033-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 18:20:41 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63683A0CE5 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:20:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OsqpQhP_GZyH for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83C123A0CE4 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40466E110C for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:20:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594171237; bh=nHr1I7V5IIY983l2pe1vQWAWHgVCD7WlrVsP8thAZdE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=CLMjiUgzmIO8lHG75Oe97mNnq350KkNDHWDd+z8gnAZ/z13VS6iKKHvmFeeENgxjf S2VwK1B9dyHYm4uHfaNRZN677+Rbl5T9zAVxXQSAjRU6NOq+l9XzFYga+OO+6KmIP/ i44KUrxGxcnm3p1DeAyDIPlneO1kYUdgROCxaV9o= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 18:20:37 -0700 From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove API requirement for resource allocation (#3838) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f051f65b4635_55d83fb33fecd95c1653ac"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 01:20:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f051f65b4635_55d83fb33fecd95c1653ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit S 5.4 requires that the application be able to - control resource allocation of various types, including flow control and the number of permitted streams of each type; This seems like a good idea, but it seems like one could have a reasonable QUIC stack that did not do this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3838 ----==_mimepart_5f051f65b4635_55d83fb33fecd95c1653ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

S 5.4 requires that the application be able to

  • control resource allocation of various types, including flow control and the
    number of permitted streams of each type;

This seems like a good idea, but it seems like one could have a reasonable QUIC stack that did not do this.

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S 7. Claims

  * 1-RTT keys have forward secrecy

This is only true if you only resume with PSK-(EC)DHE, but I don't see a requirement for this. So we need to either require this or change the text.

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This would be conditional on the server choosing a connection ID that has enough entropy (we seem to have decided that 64 bits is the benchmark). @huitema has made the same comment on occasion.

How would a client know how what algorithm the server used to generate the connection ID?

As this seems to be a design issue anyway, here's another proposal: The server could send a token in the Initial packet, and the client would then use this token on subsequent Initial packets (replacing the token it might have used on the packet containing the ClientHello). This way, we'd be using a field that's intended to carry a high-entropy value, and not rely on a field that the server might not even have control over.

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----==_mimepart_5f0520c8705b1_714d3f86f22cd9644061f6-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 18:27:17 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BD13A0CF3 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:27:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id inDifx--7KhM for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEE1F3A0CF1 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.102]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B62D6E1E2E for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:27:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594171634; bh=cWzBRIV+gSWfdcRHzOFONKFuMngtiiPnu7xahhySgd8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SCvZXllTC5tRg/JdGVvmBXf2yD58wh2v5O2FunRl4YUESoHWuJroQe2JSHBKHE6bB lFx+v842cnGvtXR2XIPfsBXQOn+7DaV1K6hlHeGRDuc+u458y0rptSizwpSppHLx3q BLOEpEgXgd0CRYy5Fmh1CXBV6lmpKFoWuFaJQ0cE= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 18:27:14 -0700 From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Which DCID used to determine packet protection keys (#3840) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0520f23c90c_1f723fec46ccd9642673fe"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 01:27:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0520f23c90c_1f723fec46ccd9642673fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When an Initial packet is sent by a client that has not previously received an Initial or Retry packet from the server, the client populates the Destination Connection ID field with an unpredictable value. This Destination Connection ID MUST be at least 8 bytes in length. Until a packet is received from the server, the client MUST use the same Destination Connection ID value on all packets in this connection. This Destination Connection ID is used to determine packet protection keys for Initial packets. I had understood that you changed keys for the later initial packets when DCID changed. No? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3840 ----==_mimepart_5f0520f23c90c_1f723fec46ccd9642673fe Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

When an Initial packet is sent by a client that has not previously received an
Initial or Retry packet from the server, the client populates the Destination
Connection ID field with an unpredictable value. This Destination Connection ID
MUST be at least 8 bytes in length. Until a packet is received from the server,
the client MUST use the same Destination Connection ID value on all packets in
this connection. This Destination Connection ID is used to determine packet
protection keys for Initial packets.

I had understood that you changed keys for the later initial packets when DCID changed. No?

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----==_mimepart_5f0520f23c90c_1f723fec46ccd9642673fe-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 18:29:30 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA283A0CF9 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:29:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dyn_SsByL2jH for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2431B3A0CF8 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.64]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52849A0925 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:29:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594171765; bh=E/BUxIybVaKAFXCDBjc7tyMyHShO0G92GKo4dKfSe2Q=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=AhBByM23YO2wZ30RtEYxqgOaXC9LKoVO/1tna85zLgTju+gqjx3JwPQs/ue0qtQDn 7XLXQY6Su7DHLJVHeksPsXpFR3rlaYQaaWAASbOmlfWKe1xWDMHPcInlHCSltny8XD 2dFUggnuaIeJ3vOjZahGXpqahwfpn+M6uXSJaiUs= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 18:29:25 -0700 From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Off-path and on-path (S 9.3.2) (#3841) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f05217543b8f_a793fb86aecd9684124f8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 01:29:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f05217543b8f_a793fb86aecd9684124f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I find the text in 9.3.3 confusing, because it says: Unlike the attack described in {{on-path-spoofing}}, the attacker can ensure that the new path is successfully validated. This is odd because on-path attackers are generally regarded as stronger than on-path attackers. Why can't an on-path attacker complete this attack. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3841 ----==_mimepart_5f05217543b8f_a793fb86aecd9684124f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I find the text in 9.3.3 confusing, because it says:

Unlike the attack described in {{on-path-spoofing}}, the attacker can ensure
that the new path is successfully validated.

This is odd because on-path attackers are generally regarded as stronger than on-path attackers. Why can't an on-path attacker complete this attack.

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I had understood that you changed keys for the later initial packets when DCID changed. No?

That is correct. I guess the confusion comes from the "This" in the last sentence. We should make clear which CID it is referring to.

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On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 6:26 PM Marten Seemann <notifications@github.com>
wrote:

> This would be conditional on the server choosing a connection ID that has
> enough entropy (we seem to have decided that 64 bits is the benchmark).
> @huitema <https://github.com/huitema> has made the same comment on
> occasion.
>
> How would a client know how what algorithm the server used to generate the
> connection ID?
>
The client doesn't need to know, because it's the server's amplification
limit that is at hand. And right now, the handshake would complete if the
client doesn't do anything, it's just not optimal.

As this seems to be a design issue anyway, here's another proposal: The
> server could send a token in the Initial packet, and the client would then
> use this token on subsequent Initial packets (replacing the token it might
> have used on the packet containing the ClientHello). This way, we'd be
> using a field that's intended to carry a high-entropy value, and not rely
> on a field that the server might not even have control over.
>
I agree that this would work, but it seems like a significantly more
invasive change, especially given the somewhat edge-casey nature of the
issue.

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----==_mimepart_5f0522676a719_75ce3fa057acd960294099-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 18:34:31 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4093A0D05 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:34:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wl-a8Ohbuw2k for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B953D3A0D01 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.16.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012C0661E36 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:34:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594172067; bh=eBB3apyHgqd4JAlct1ZEZKvoit4cch/+Gya7Ntzq/LE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WNVI1bK8Wk04XZaUqFtmomvO1eadpv+KsAgcaDQCBMdB0uUpbZByfBh/p3UGeDIwi nIf/qX4TyZw7IqPpX47Rk/d8kR0PKXLFz6iEThZH7+DUJn1SKSJD0dt8xsb6+s7zfg cP+vjO6MKOGTL1Wek5Dxz5QcfBkjLWeVZviD9Fko= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 18:34:26 -0700 From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Do I need to reset congestion info when the port changes? (#3842) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0522a2e66fe_9f23fb24dacd96c35284b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 01:34:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0522a2e66fe_9f23fb24dacd96c35284b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint MUST immediately reset the congestion controller and round-trip time estimator for the new path to initial values (see Sections A.3 and B.3 in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}) unless it has knowledge that a previous send rate or round-trip time estimate is valid for the new path. For instance, an endpoint might infer that a change in only the client's port number is indicative of a NAT rebinding, meaning that the new path is likely to have similar bandwidth and round-trip time. This is kind of an odd formulation. What knowledge does the endpoint have in this case that we don't already have? Why not just make an explicit exception for port-only changes? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3842 ----==_mimepart_5f0522a2e66fe_9f23fb24dacd96c35284b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

On confirming a peer's ownership of its new address, an endpoint MUST
immediately reset the congestion controller and round-trip time estimator for
the new path to initial values (see Sections A.3 and B.3 in {{QUIC-RECOVERY}})
unless it has knowledge that a previous send rate or round-trip time estimate is
valid for the new path. For instance, an endpoint might infer that a change in
only the client's port number is indicative of a NAT rebinding, meaning that the
new path is likely to have similar bandwidth and round-trip time.

This is kind of an odd formulation. What knowledge does the endpoint have in this case that we don't already have? Why not just make an explicit exception for port-only changes?

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----==_mimepart_5f0522a2e66fe_9f23fb24dacd96c35284b-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 18:36:00 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B86A3A0D0B for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:35:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.006 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.006 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y6oM1W9C6QUp for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6B213A0D0E for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-39b4a70.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-39b4a70.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71475261866 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:35:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594172157; bh=7wJrP35r/xTZQiW36p7fpFGqCR2aVi9C1Rd3GC0Rel4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zY4ArcAiS5hIDNh9sks6O9XstyyFFwHLwBlBYZLJv6VdleI0urir4Jwguakl1RPBO UmJIm2UHJLE0oEjey9TMBlFXM61H2a09feJDXCD2x2c/V/gXZKoGJgLWfxYgLXd7ai q520dJ7dZRBosjMAddOElNlKT8KZhovprJ/1Nifs= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 18:35:57 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove amplification throttle if the server receives Initial that echoes its high entropy SCID. (#3834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0522fd2b8c6_50173f8bc56cd9602239ed"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 01:35:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0522fd2b8c6_50173f8bc56cd9602239ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We could also allow PATH_CHALLENGE in Initial packets, but that too has more disruptive effects on the design. Of course, this is almost something that implementations could do without permission. But if we want that, then it is better to capture it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3834#issuecomment-655227861 ----==_mimepart_5f0522fd2b8c6_50173f8bc56cd9602239ed Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

We could also allow PATH_CHALLENGE in Initial packets, but that too has more disruptive effects on the design.

Of course, this is almost something that implementations could do without permission. But if we want that, then it is better to capture it.

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I understand why you might want to cover closing and draining states before covering the types of close, but I think it would actually be clearer pedagogically to cover the types of close and point to closing and draining states, putting that later.

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On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 6:35 PM Martin Thomson <notifications@github.com>
wrote:

> We could also allow PATH_CHALLENGE in Initial packets, but that too has
> more disruptive effects on the design.
>
> Of course, this is almost something that implementations could do without
> permission. But if we want that, then it is better to capture it.
>
Yah, that was my thinking.

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An endpoint might need to send ack-eliciting packets to avoid an idle timeout
if it is expecting response data, but does not have or is unable to send
application data.

However, you can't necessarily reset your own idle_timeout that way because it only is reset when you haven't already sent an ack-eliciting packet after the last received packet. If this is about resetting the peer, then maybe editorial. If it is about resetting yourself, then this may be design.

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----==_mimepart_5f0523da527f6_2c033fd4dcacd9601103f7-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 18:42:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4979B3A0D48 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:42:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id STu9CpAXFg7L for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3F153A0D44 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16461660553 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:41:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594172518; bh=z4b/RLPvopVNtjJzrViBnlM1nnRED9o+tjbZCBTO26Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=btwwWqEHypGZJLTMkgZ6fXZ7UQeaaOFnBheJjbjZpeMhOT7dbHwf7dDnuubaBD3JT lrnoAuPBs69TpVRwl3bG/NIzpUZ0OSJfTK6pags8W9VCAwM0VP4Inb9L8mRl6VtDLo P42xcOoXgDHRpgHKuyWs1w/GCLtY211tJTxOyezM= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 18:41:58 -0700 From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove amplification throttle if the server receives Initial that echoes its high entropy SCID. (#3834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f05246679aa_594f3fb5498cd96042973b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 01:42:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f05246679aa_594f3fb5498cd96042973b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > We could also allow PATH_CHALLENGE in Initial packets, but that too has more disruptive effects on the design. That's probably easier than using the Token field. The only change required for this would be to allow those two frames in Initial packets. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3834#issuecomment-655229616 ----==_mimepart_5f05246679aa_594f3fb5498cd96042973b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

We could also allow PATH_CHALLENGE in Initial packets, but that too has more disruptive effects on the design.

That's probably easier than using the Token field. The only change required for this would be to allow those two frames in Initial packets.

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An endpoint is allowed to drop the packet protection keys when entering the
closing period ({{draining}}) and send a packet containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE in
response to any UDP datagram that is received. However, an endpoint without the
packet protection keys cannot identify and discard invalid packets. To avoid
creating an unwitting amplification attack, such endpoints MUST reduce the
frequency with which it sends packets containing a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame. To

This seems like a pretty vague requirement for a 2119 MUST. Like, I could only send it 9999/10000 packets and that would be compliant.

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----==_mimepart_5f05258222c62_4da63f95298cd96416030-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 18:48:26 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9445C3A0D05 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:48:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dBqz1iXEcvqn for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 151A43A0D4B for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.25.52]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551D152110F for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:48:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594172903; bh=55GsOJPLp4Yi8sbxiHB6oE+bJo6n9yX6VJjFkLyjqEI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Jc2/5q+O1E5IcmwIzQrAh3bdlS6CeE8v2pA2DqbgICPu85xHG7fK7E/1Y08OsyHJc mmHXtuebktroGGst2VBVgCY7hl2ZcLmzmgny4x03atoGbUKPhYVucOG4nq4XBUGXSi ZoGAQYO24p8lo/jh1dRgvIEkA0ODbvwDS5wpFV1o= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 18:48:23 -0700 From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove amplification throttle if the server receives Initial that echoes its high entropy SCID. (#3834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0525e717d86_a713fb6a54cd95c884a8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 01:48:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0525e717d86_a713fb6a54cd95c884a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree that the change makes sense. The picoquic server already does that: if the client responds with the proper CID, then the connection is validated. The protocol police has not caught me yet, and that makes sense because the specifics of amplification response are pretty much a server implementation choice -- and yes, sticking a path challenge in the server's Initial packet would be another valid choice. The main problem is not on the server side, but rather on the client side. The last interop issue I saw came when a client was coalescing an Initial ACK with an Handshake ACK. The exchange went something like: * For DCID `db872c93777b337a` I'm sending you an Initial ACK + Handshake but picoquic is rejecting it as too short (error code 408). My reading of the spec is this is legal, as it's a coalesced packet * Answer: The text log says that the Initial packet #1 was accepted, but after that you are sending an initial packet that is just 95 bytes long, and then an handshake packet. * ... discussion showing that the coalesced datagram was just 95 bytes long, when the spec says that all initial packets should be padded to 1200 bytes. So basically the question is, should clients be authorized to NOT pad an Initial packet to 1200 bytes if the DCID of the Initial packet is set to the SCID received by the server? I would love to say that, but I am concerned about making disruptive changes during WGLC. And so my reluctant advice is to not do anything about this issue now. Developers of servers can make their own decisions, using either long CID or path challenges. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3834#issuecomment-655231430 ----==_mimepart_5f0525e717d86_a713fb6a54cd95c884a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree that the change makes sense. The picoquic server already does that: if the client responds with the proper CID, then the connection is validated. The protocol police has not caught me yet, and that makes sense because the specifics of amplification response are pretty much a server implementation choice -- and yes, sticking a path challenge in the server's Initial packet would be another valid choice. The main problem is not on the server side, but rather on the client side.

The last interop issue I saw came when a client was coalescing an Initial ACK with an Handshake ACK. The exchange went something like:

  • For DCID db872c93777b337a I'm sending you an Initial ACK + Handshake but picoquic is rejecting it as too short (error code 408). My reading of the spec is this is legal, as it's a coalesced packet
  • Answer: The text log says that the Initial packet #1 was accepted, but after that you are sending an initial packet that is just 95 bytes long, and then an handshake packet.
  • ... discussion showing that the coalesced datagram was just 95 bytes long, when the spec says that all initial packets should be padded to 1200 bytes.

So basically the question is, should clients be authorized to NOT pad an Initial packet to 1200 bytes if the DCID of the Initial packet is set to the SCID received by the server? I would love to say that, but I am concerned about making disruptive changes during WGLC. And so my reluctant advice is to not do anything about this issue now. Developers of servers can make their own decisions, using either long CID or path challenges.

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I see a couple of places where we require that values have high entropy. For instance

A stateless reset uses an entire UDP datagram, starting with the first two bits
of the packet header. The remainder of the first byte and an arbitrary number
of bytes following it that are set to unpredictable values. The last 16 bytes
of the datagram contain a Stateless Reset Token.

and

A PATH_CHALLENGE frame containing 8 bytes that are hard to guess is sufficient
to ensure that it is easier to receive the packet than it is to guess the value
correctly.

In general, this means that things contain sufficient entropy (so, for instance, you might have a value with some fixed values and some high entropy values). In any case, I think the first of these should be "indistinguishable from random" and the second should be "containing at least 64 bits worth of entropy"

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Splitting the text regarding the 3PTO backstop makes this clearer. From nobody Tue Jul 7 18:51:38 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422893A0D5C for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:51:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PuXyI_0l2Fx6 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECE233A0D57 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1ac52d7.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1ac52d7.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.25.52]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188C7E10EA for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:51:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594173094; bh=FhIk3Vi+87cZN5Jh5fomDgNY33SPyucfGRhDsP2ei4c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=k854gxEcopiGLP3hyDP743pVa5PKql3xe/0G/SsM886E2ksdVam2ywyaWK4IiVusZ REnuD+s8WNDLIT+GdsgTMTTMB6TtpiqGDgQhg61vbeRXIIK8YFCUqu1jkHsPetmuvd X9OejMXDJYAk7/dyM/blpHnap/RyuUfQ80janIaU= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 18:51:34 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Split minimum idle timeout period (#3847) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0526a695bd_3533fbcb68cd964560b5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 01:51:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0526a695bd_3533fbcb68cd964560b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The text as written implied that the actual timeout period was calculated using: ``` min(max_idle_timeout[client], max_idle_timeout[server], 3 * PTO) ``` This is silly, as 3PTO is usually smaller than the other two values, and connections would time out too fast. Splitting the text regarding the 3PTO backstop makes this clearer. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3847 -- Commit Summary -- * Split minimum idle timeout period -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (7) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3847.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3847.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3847 ----==_mimepart_5f0526a695bd_3533fbcb68cd964560b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The text as written implied that the actual timeout period was
calculated using:

min(max_idle_timeout[client],
    max_idle_timeout[server],
    3 * PTO)

This is silly, as 3PTO is usually smaller than the other two values, and
connections would time out too fast.

Splitting the text regarding the 3PTO backstop makes this clearer.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3847

Commit Summary

  • Split minimum idle timeout period

File Changes

Patch Links:

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A minimum size of 21 bytes does not guarantee that a stateless reset is
difficult to distinguish from other packets if the recipient requires the use of
a connection ID. To prevent a resulting stateless reset from being trivially
distinguishable from a valid packet, all packets sent by an endpoint SHOULD be
padded to at least 22 bytes longer than the minimum connection ID that the
endpoint might use.

I don't quite understand how this text works because I don't get to control the CIDs that I send with.

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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2682,6 +2681,10 @@ ack-eliciting packet if no other ack-eliciting packets have been sent since last
 receiving and processing a packet. Restarting this timer when sending a packet
 ensures that connections are not closed after new activity is initiated.
 
+There is no minimum value for max_idle_timeout.  To avoid excessively small idle

This is like a major nitpick, but isn't the minimum value actually 1ms, because 0 means no timeout?

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 7 18:53:51 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894643A0D63 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:53:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IxM0BXj5G8_R for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-16.smtp.github.com (out-16.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 686243A0D61 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1ac52d7.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1ac52d7.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.25.52]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E737D1210E1 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:53:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594173229; bh=jWYGZ1smOUM/qTve28nxoc2hXObwiQT11TuKCavEIdk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=OgRd0kDe24ET5CfpVllIwXpaixjcMceuyUnEBtcDRJk2PrN8coKNp4I9GFPqsjzcC 5y6pn8MRZztBZEIAeZgZboYk7fBSY0VQSScGLAJ84luUCMEgjVr3+ggahq+dcHp4sa /Hv0AsYoLmon8aX2N5tHxaVht+9LBr8wakiU1Nzw= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 18:53:48 -0700 From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Split minimum idle timeout period (#3847) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f05272ca194f_34e3fbcb68cd96464295"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 01:53:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f05272ca194f_34e3fbcb68cd96464295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wasn't the intended meaning ``` min(max_idle_timeout[client] + 3*PTO, max_idle_timeout[server] + 3*PTO) ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Wasn't the intended meaning

min(max_idle_timeout[client] + 3*PTO,
    max_idle_timeout[server] + 3*PTO)

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----==_mimepart_5f05272ca194f_34e3fbcb68cd96464295-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 18:56:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9186C3A0D62 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:56:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9k4jgDyc80yv for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49E9C3A0D61 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-edec459.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-edec459.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.32]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5C06603B1 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:56:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594173384; bh=Gj9aUzNasKR2Gun5MJ/thxkrTWlgAbZNNYSwkTbgWlU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wsFY6t09Kt3mtqt7yvuBQZAQch05Bw/LEEWWPCqIVb9vgDDA688bGu0JlCGE2F5Ve j28E49lsHR9UuVSKsRkIxhWy8qtPMsojV6neTbNBYH459o9R0Jkc4Jj4qlbbziw/hH uo1Q1xmbAKQ4YVJyP63iDcL86IEDlXWLi7FtWoOM= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 18:56:24 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Which idle timeout are we avoiding in 10.2.2 (#3844) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0527c8cdd59_61bd3fe0198cd960110258"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 01:56:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0527c8cdd59_61bd3fe0198cd960110258 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is both idle timeouts. The idea behind the rules regarding the local reset of the idle timer is that if you send an ack-eliciting packet, you will get an acknowledgment. You are required to send probes until you do. So you only reset the timeout on the first. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3844#issuecomment-655233726 ----==_mimepart_5f0527c8cdd59_61bd3fe0198cd960110258 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This is both idle timeouts.

The idea behind the rules regarding the local reset of the idle timer is that if you send an ack-eliciting packet, you will get an acknowledgment. You are required to send probes until you do. So you only reset the timeout on the first.

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Should we perhaps not use integrity in S 12.1 when we are talking about null keys?

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I can only speak about my intent, but I did not intend to always add 3PTO to the timeout. The text was clearly more confused than I thought.

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Yes, the Initial padding was discussed, and I think that as it depends on the client making an assessment of the entropy present in the connection ID, it is a non-starter.

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Would this be clearer if it said:

all packets sent by an endpoint SHOULD be padded to at least 22 bytes longer than the minimum connection ID that the endpoint might request a peer to use.

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Here are three quasi-nits about S 12.2.

Coalescing packets in order of increasing encryption levels (Initial, 0-RTT,
Handshake, 1-RTT; see Section 4.1.4 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) makes it more likely the
receiver will be able to process all the packets in a single pass. A packet
with a short header does not include a length, so it can only be the last
packet included in a UDP datagram. An endpoint SHOULD NOT coalesce multiple
packets at the same encryption level.

Is the implication here that you should instead pack all the frames into one packet?

Receivers MAY route based on the information in the first packet contained in a
UDP datagram. Senders MUST NOT coalesce QUIC packets for different connections
into a single UDP datagram. Receivers SHOULD ignore any subsequent packets with
a different Destination Connection ID than the first packet in the datagram.

Is there a valid reason to have different SCIDs?

Retry packets ({{packet-retry}}), Version Negotiation packets
({{packet-version}}), and packets with a short header ({{short-header}}) do not
contain a Length field and so cannot be followed by other packets in the same
UDP datagram. Note also that there is no situation where a Retry or Version
Negotiation packet is coalesced with another packet.

Should this be a MUST NOT?

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An endpoint MUST treat the receipt of a frame of unknown type as a connection
error of type FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR.

What about a frame of an impermissible type for this key space?

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  1. Yes.
  2. See #3800.
  3. I don't see why. It's just a fact, not a conformance requirement.

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13.2.2. calls them "exemplary" but 13.2.4 has MUST in it.

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----==_mimepart_5f052b3bc5809_2b223f9acd8cd960215457-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 19:11:22 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE193A0FAC for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 19:11:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id anL_WX1Skcmq for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 19:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEB4D3A0FAB for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 19:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.57]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02459E0AB5 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 19:11:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594174280; bh=fFMxihvU0sjrqqENc6ac4rrD43GuPAtZfSttR8Pi33s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xr18EUK2yhGjIgEHl1hO4XQx5dJ0Op7U4PxWYpYwhvmr30erJKTuZxGlNP370/WFK IFlOZ327oAV0LAAHqdzcX2HEvaLnD7d1NhwCIf6HId3AMd21dr4Sn5MLYzbjki8PUf JAwYA6o0BiTDQKKTQmNuVpb7w2J98ysdZtwzf9cI= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 19:11:19 -0700 From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove amplification throttle if the server receives Initial that echoes its high entropy SCID. (#3834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f052b47e71e2_48a43fa8890cd96c1065fd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 02:11:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f052b47e71e2_48a43fa8890cd96c1065fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The server could also inject entropy by selecting a large sequence number for the Initial packet. In theory nothing would break if the server picked a random 61 bit number for the first Initial packet instead of zero. If the client acks that and repeats the proper CID, then the server can legitimately assume that the client's address is validated. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3834#issuecomment-655238040 ----==_mimepart_5f052b47e71e2_48a43fa8890cd96c1065fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The server could also inject entropy by selecting a large sequence number for the Initial packet. In theory nothing would break if the server picked a random 61 bit number for the first Initial packet instead of zero. If the client acks that and repeats the proper CID, then the server can legitimately assume that the client's address is validated.

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A receiver MUST NOT bundle an ack-eliciting frame with packets that would
otherwise be non-ack-eliciting, to avoid an infinite feedback loop of
acknowledgements.

This text seems weird. Suppose I have an implementation which tries to send out data packets on a specific clock (e.g., one per second). This isn't totally unrealistic for media. Now suppose my ACK delay timer fires and I want to send an ACK. This text would prohibit my from sending the data packet early to save packets. Surely that's not what's intended.

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A Version Negotiation packet cannot be explicitly acknowledged in an ACK frame
by a client. Receiving another Initial packet implicitly acknowledges a Version
Negotiation packet.

This seems like old text from when we removed real VN. I think that you just need to say that no ACK is required because you only send it in response to Initial.

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This seems to only apply to 0-RTT, but there are lots of frames which may not appear in Initial

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You can only get 32 bits of entropy in the packet number, and you might limit your ability to send more packets if you picked a number that is too large, but yeah, there are options.

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A client only receives acknowledgments for its 0-RTT packets once the handshake
is complete. Consequently, a server might expect 0-RTT packets to start with a

However, this is not necessarily strictly true, because you might have the ACKs in 0.5RTT. Now you might say that the TLS stack reports the handshake as complete as soon as it receives Finished but that's an implementation detail

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The server can send before then, but we require that the client not install 1-RTT keys until it considers the handshake complete. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3855#issuecomment-655241885 ----==_mimepart_5f052e50d1305_6cd93f82278cd96027318d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think that this is true. The server can send before then, but we require that the client not install 1-RTT keys until it considers the handshake complete.

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Hopefully some minor editorial changes.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3856

Commit Summary

  • Clarify opaque
  • Clarify gthe ? in the encoding language
  • Don't say that unidirectional is a long message. That just confuses things
  • Clarify the example of stream IDs
  • Clarify the stream ID limits. Remove redundancy
  • You actually don't know definitively how many bytes were sent
  • early data -> 0-RTT data
  • Fix description of the results of Version Negotiation. Remind me why this isn't called Version Error...
  • You don't change SCID on later packets
  • Clarify impact of on-path spoofing
  • Clarify awkward text around preferred connection
  • Tiny wording change
  • Retry packets don't use keys derived from the handshake
  • One follows the guidance
  • Remove commas, this is a restrictive clause
  • includes -> included
  • Clarify which field

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I feel like maybe I'm having trouble understanding the reasoning here. Do you mind walking me through it?

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@martinthomson Yes.

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The problem is that this is not a "real" tail. It's only a tail because we have different packet number spaces. Note that the server completes the handshake when receiving the CFIN, which is also when it derives the client 1-RTT secret. This means there's no way it could have received and processed an ACK for any 1-RTT packet.

I would point out that the example is a corner case. It is about the first flight of the server getting lost, then the first set of PTO probes reaching the client. The assumption is that there were some 0.5 RTT data in the first flight but none in the first set of PTO probes.

While that could happen in practice, as the amount of data the server is allowed to send is different between the two occasions, I would point out that the amount of Initial and Handshake data could be less than the amount of data you could send as a PTO probe (e.g., when resuming a connection or when certificate compression is used). In such case, the server would be sending 0.5 RTT data in the first PTO event. I think that is a fine thing to do.

To paraphrase, the example is about the server sending 0.5 RTT probes than it could have, due to the space of probes being restricted. That's why I do not think it's important to consider about the example.

As previously stated, I do think that there is are issues regarding the interaction of handshake and PTO probes, but my point is that there is nothing wrong with how the PTO timeout is being calculated.

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we require that the client not install 1-RTT keys until it considers the handshake complete.

That's not entirely true. It's the server that needs to hold back keys (namely, the 1-RTT read key) until the handshake completes. The client can use keys as soon as they become available.

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----==_mimepart_5f0541e43c228_48cb3ff0c10cd964474994-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 21:07:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D37C3A0061 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 21:07:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kq6OOJkpwGcu for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 21:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D4EC3A005B for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 21:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-fa7043e.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-fa7043e.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.109.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC44660E47 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 21:06:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594181218; bh=MS/84YlLW7ZjPLUkUd3f8eKnZZ/0Irj3osQQQhO8Gjc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XVP7vemN8ACWk8w/IgiTWl/y0KQ8g7VQ66KcItGSZBzl8DGi/afpVJqKsT/SGTZFV BX/3EwH9HkYgXK4jC3/YCI7B2fgf9iP7ZVHQ55tPd34LITNPg+OISoNpMCk+vS1szV rlogESKsfAe6s6kbVQhPyQMXEOYZefBNu304uOso= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 21:06:58 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Receiving ACKs for 0-RTT (#3855) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0546623f6c3_67fd3fe1822cd96010441c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 04:07:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0546623f6c3_67fd3fe1822cd96010441c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think @martinthomson is correct in sense that the following three events happen at the same moment on the client side: * handshake is declared complete * TLS stack provides the 1-RTT read and write keys * TLS stack provides ClientFinished -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3855#issuecomment-655270431 ----==_mimepart_5f0546623f6c3_67fd3fe1822cd96010441c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think @martinthomson is correct in sense that the following three events happen at the same moment on the client side:

  • handshake is declared complete
  • TLS stack provides the 1-RTT read and write keys
  • TLS stack provides ClientFinished

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Martin is correct. There are two different forms of handshake completion: complete when 1rtt can be sent and received, confirmed when the peer is known to be complete. The client cannot receive 0rtt acks before installing 1rtt keys, hence before hanshake is complete.

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----==_mimepart_5f0546b1e5c0f_312b3fa8ffecd96070397-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 21:12:56 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E923A076C for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 21:12:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PCR5OWrqqLjy for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 21:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F348A3A0769 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 21:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.112.13]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EF75210DD for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 21:12:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594181573; bh=wtZx8OcdG4rWkDLdlFSA+qIm9g3gBpn2j25Xg5YwmM0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=DlEGGviz8+MgRSe227wjIgayznKzG3+WSdf3aEK5Yr6auzuOWtLE0vyKFKakxDvE7 fw2SAmLcJYtL61peOXnUblOmRsDRJWGvHvmyf5FdUyeGyGBrntc7FZQuaOHRiksrEZ xiObXLtrar7Dx0MlHMkylBOTv/GLc27Kd3ZlzENA= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 21:12:53 -0700 From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MUST NOT bundle, etc. (#3853) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0547c535b5f_18cf3fda56acd96860387"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 04:12:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0547c535b5f_18cf3fda56acd96860387 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think this is in reaction to the practice of bundling a ping with an ack to trigger an ack of ack. Yes, if both peers bundle a ping with every ack you would get an infinite ping pong. But you would have to be crazy to do that. Plus, bundling a ping with every Nth ack for N > 1 is actually a good way to trigger ack of ack. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3853#issuecomment-655271992 ----==_mimepart_5f0547c535b5f_18cf3fda56acd96860387 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think this is in reaction to the practice of bundling a ping with an ack to trigger an ack of ack. Yes, if both peers bundle a ping with every ack you would get an infinite ping pong. But you would have to be crazy to do that. Plus, bundling a ping with every Nth ack for N > 1 is actually a good way to trigger ack of ack.

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There are a couple of conflicts here with other work, but this is generally OK. > +To remedy this issue, a RESET_STREAM frame ({{frame-reset-stream}}) +includes the final size of data sent on the stream. On receiving a +RESET_STREAM frame, a receiver knows how many bytes the sender claims +were sent on that stream before the RESET_STREAM frame, and the +receiver MUST use the final size of the stream to account for all +bytes sent on the stream in its connection level flow controller. I think that this is just removing a single word, but the reflow makes it hard to parse. C-u 8 0 M-x set-fill-column Or install editorconfig. > +- if 0-RTT data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS resumption ticket sent to the client; and -- if Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the - client's resumption ticket and enable rejecting Early Data based on that +- if 0-RTT data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the + client's resumption ticket and enable rejecting 0-RTT data based on that information. I think that we need to get @MikeBishop to fight this out. > @@ -1527,12 +1530,13 @@ Connection ID is chosen by the recipient of the packet and is used to provide consistent routing; the Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination Connection ID used by the peer. -During the handshake, packets with the long header ({{long-header}}) are used to -establish the connection IDs in each direction. Each endpoint uses the Source -Connection ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the Destination -Connection ID field of packets being sent to them. Upon receiving a packet, each -endpoint sets the Destination Connection ID it sends to match the value of the -Source Connection ID that it receives. +During the handshake, packets with the long header ({{long-header}}) +are used to establish the connection IDs in each direction. Each +endpoint uses the Source Connection ID field to specify the connection +ID that is used in the Destination Connection ID field of packets +being sent to them. Upon receiving the first packet from the peer, Again, this seems to be just one change. Should this be "first Initial" instead. > +Once the handshake is confirmed, the client SHOULD select one of the two values +preferred addresses provided by the server and initiate path validation (see Redundancy here: ```suggestion Once the handshake is confirmed, the client SHOULD select one of the two preferred addresses provided by the server and initiate path validation (see ``` > +and its state is discarded when it remains idle for longer than either + +the minimum of See #3847. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3856#pullrequestreview-444402212 ----==_mimepart_5f054ac7149d0_56f03f90eaccd96c13116b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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The logic is a little turgid and I think we were reluctant to show our working.

The sender of a stateless reset can't know how big a connection ID the peer might have requested it use.

This makes packets potentially distinguishable a peer wanted the largest connection ID size (20) and the packet size drops below 41 bytes.

The sender of a stateless reset is required to reduce packet size for the stateless reset, unless it is counting somehow.

So, if an endpoint wants to ensure that a peer can generate an indistinguishable stateless reset, assuming that its peer is following the size reduction rule, and assuming that the reduction is just one byte (because the stateless reset sender also wants it to be indistinguishable), then it needs to send packets of at least 42 bytes in the general case. But if it knows that it would never ever ask for a connection ID larger than N, then it can instead send packets of size N+22 and the goal is accomplished without sending larger packets all the time.

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As I pointed out in #3813, the current pseudo code does not use kInitialRtt, which should be fixed.

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This is a left-over from removing version negotiation from the draft.

Closes #3854.

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This does a little shuffling to move some of the context-setting up. It
then adds some more meat to the introductory section.

Closes #3763.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3858

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 7 21:56:05 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A05F3A07C2 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 21:56:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rL5SJwGYp44w for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 21:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 518533A03FA for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 21:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.110.15]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33916A1249 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 21:56:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594184161; bh=7i1MEIIcpZCmOGp+WDtp0dm6WDHrUy3bxjdrPufSbNY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=S4HWzz6iJcN2212Ubb6dUEFLNeqOnVsWB2pfvusJ21DPYEtXGycvEiv61IQfZ6mkA z2jkGMKS5ofZ/CkS313Mdri0N8RFYx0eaI4jjtLqgU4Xk980a42jgs6kNf+2HySgQS 0RzRJpn478fWyF+p01XGzfr/SD3wCaNa+Ie+LsCY= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 21:56:01 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Integrity protection (#3849) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0551e193faa_83f3fd0042cd96845812"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 04:56:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0551e193faa_83f3fd0042cd96845812 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't follow. Assuming that you are talking about [the same Section 12.1](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#name-protected-packets) then I don't see any reference to null keys. Are you suggesting that we say something like: > Initial protection only exists to ensure that the sender of the packet is on the network path. The integrity protection provided for Initial and Retry packets guards against accidental modification of packets that might not be caught by the UDP checksum. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3849#issuecomment-655283500 ----==_mimepart_5f0551e193faa_83f3fd0042cd96845812 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't follow. Assuming that you are talking about the same Section 12.1 then I don't see any reference to null keys. Are you suggesting that we say something like:

Initial protection only exists to ensure that the sender of the packet is on the network path. The integrity protection provided for Initial and Retry packets guards against accidental modification of packets that might not be caught by the UDP checksum.

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Closes #3851.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 7 22:01:29 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A37F3A07F9 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 22:01:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rlbn89CWWKSr for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 22:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D9F33A07EE for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 22:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.25.52]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9115C8C1713 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 22:01:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594184484; bh=0LB/3tzJh1gFuJskp8yWO1n2ibqvVCVpyxZouzetFag=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mNUy9s+bPaOz2ic9JTKQSOkQ2yDGEau+nOMCx3PeafHlO/ecQaqfCuUNKNHJbdJy9 ZXsC2QXdZcwbJdAfvzwRhRss2GR7BPuGGrm96Dk03YI2PBtTtDQTNvD7XwYMhpTRyS BlkTWiOgRUMa/WiSSLbbWX4ihXLCEgPHhW0NrGCE= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 22:01:24 -0700 From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] incorrect error code used for invalid RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frames (#3860) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f05532480bcb_48d13f83742cd9688846a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 05:01:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f05532480bcb_48d13f83742cd9688846a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The sequence number specified in a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame MUST NOT refer to the Destination Connection ID field of the packet in which the frame is contained. The peer MAY treat this as a connection error of type FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR. Our principle regarding error codes states that only those errors that are detectable without accessing connection state should result in a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR. Since the RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame contains only the sequence number of the connection ID, but not the actual connection ID itself, this should be a different error. Looking through the list of error codes, it seems like we don't have any more specific error code here, so this would be a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3860 ----==_mimepart_5f05532480bcb_48d13f83742cd9688846a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The sequence number specified in a RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame MUST NOT refer to the Destination Connection ID field of the packet in which the frame is contained. The peer MAY treat this as a connection error of type FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR.

Our principle regarding error codes states that only those errors that are detectable without accessing connection state should result in a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR. Since the RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame contains only the sequence number of the connection ID, but not the actual connection ID itself, this should be a different error.
Looking through the list of error codes, it seems like we don't have any more specific error code here, so this would be a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

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Fixes #3860.

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----==_mimepart_5f0553da592f8_1bfc3fd0bc8cd968884cb-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 22:06:31 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FBC3A0822 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 22:06:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AxBap-fXfg0m for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 22:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5495D3A081B for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 22:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.64]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E41D6E002F for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 22:06:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594184787; bh=2u3SD8sNfXuJ7oCgeT5/A0y6q9qh5wzup7BnnHoaG80=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=VindUBN2f8wBDV3oFxVdZ8lXFtkc16GVbKKJkM7bIXQwzUX3VBzz8+dApMJ4ZeBeh TwMhFEoC9T5yd6TOq0TJjvgf5C6Kl3NroQqPBitgp6JDwDjEIFXExXfTlq8fHfmbxX tCCmeQDjDmWRiCJ+01u6jjUgxjHBq5nPlIdN914U= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 22:06:27 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MUST NOT bundle, etc. (#3853) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0554537f27a_1a0e3f88970cd96090132"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 05:06:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0554537f27a_1a0e3f88970cd96090132 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This has always been hard to capture. In short, you can't only send ack-eliciting packets to acknowledge. > An endpoint MUST NOT send packets that are exclusively ack-eliciting as this can result in an infinite feedback loop. It is necessary to send packets that are not ack-eliciting to allow the connection to become idle. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3853#issuecomment-655287113 ----==_mimepart_5f0554537f27a_1a0e3f88970cd96090132 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This has always been hard to capture. In short, you can't only send ack-eliciting packets to acknowledge.

An endpoint MUST NOT send packets that are exclusively ack-eliciting as this can result in an infinite feedback loop. It is necessary to send packets that are not ack-eliciting to allow the connection to become idle.

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For reference, this refers to Section 13.2.3 and Section 13.2.5 in the editor's copy.

I'm in favour of striking the exemplary note and saying that while the recovery draft is advisory, this document depends on implementations following something like what is recommended.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3354,7 +3354,9 @@ ih:
   packets.
 
 Section 4 of {{QUIC-TLS}} provides more detail about these restrictions.  Note
-that all frames can appear in 1-RTT packets.
+that all frames can appear in 1-RTT packets.  An endpoint MUST treat receipt of
+a frame in a packet type that is not permitted as a connection error of type
+PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

Would FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR be ok too?

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Seems OK.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3354,7 +3354,9 @@ ih:
   packets.
 
 Section 4 of {{QUIC-TLS}} provides more detail about these restrictions.  Note
-that all frames can appear in 1-RTT packets.
+that all frames can appear in 1-RTT packets.  An endpoint MUST treat receipt of
+a frame in a packet type that is not permitted as a connection error of type
+PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

Interesting question. It's not something that can be determined without context, so I would lean toward "no".

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3354,7 +3354,9 @@ ih:
   packets.
 
 Section 4 of {{QUIC-TLS}} provides more detail about these restrictions.  Note
-that all frames can appear in 1-RTT packets.
+that all frames can appear in 1-RTT packets.  An endpoint MUST treat receipt of
+a frame in a packet type that is not permitted as a connection error of type
+PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

Depends on what your definition of "context" is. If it is "the bytes that this frame is composed of", then no. If you include the encryption level you received those bytes with, then "yes". You might want to do that, because the encryption level is not connection-level state.

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Closes #3855 in a way that perhaps was not anticipated. 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I would like to know how to implement AreAllPacketsLost and DetectLostPackets.

DetectLostPackets was fixed via 2961b77.

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This is better defined elsewhere, but it doesn't hurt to repeat it.

Closes #3840.

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@kazu-yamamoto commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1108,14 +1108,18 @@ OnAckReceived(ack, pn_space):
     largest_acked_packet[pn_space] =
         max(largest_acked_packet[pn_space], ack.largest_acked)
 
+  // DetectNewlyAckedPackets finds packets that are newly

DetectNewlyAckedPackets is not defined in master.

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Closes #3846.

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@ianswett Some inconsistencies would be added via #3540.

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We have a rather vague requirement. In short, follow the same rules we established for the handshake. Wording this as an aggregate number allows for stochastic reactions and larger CONNECTION_CLOSE frames. This way, if you get a 25-byte packet and respond with a 200-byte packet, you can do that, but you have to respond to 3 in 8 or fewer in that way. Note that this limit only applies if the endpoint throws away decryption keys. Endpoints with keys aren't blind amplifiers. Closes #3845. 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(#3845) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f055f6e5ba55_7b7b3f9d2c8cd968146257"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 05:53:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f055f6e5ba55_7b7b3f9d2c8cd968146257 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that it would be good to follow the 3x rule here also, but that's a non-editorial change. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I think that it would be good to follow the 3x rule here also, but that's a non-editorial change.

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We weren't very concrete in saying how endpoints generate packets with
CONNECTION_CLOSE, particularly those that throw away keys. We have
a rather vague requirement.

In short, follow the same rules we established for the handshake.
Wording this as an aggregate number allows for stochastic reactions and
larger CONNECTION_CLOSE frames. This way, if you get a 25-byte packet
and respond with a 200-byte packet, you can do that, but you have to
respond to 3 in 8 or fewer in that way.

Note that this limit only applies if the endpoint throws away decryption
keys. Endpoints with keys aren't blind amplifiers.

Closes #3845.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3864

Commit Summary

  • 3x amplification limit for CONNECTION_CLOSE

File Changes

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I agree with this, but it will require some updates to other drafts.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 7 23:01:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24653A0963 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:01:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zb_YVS3id0R7 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 204293A095F for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1b8c660.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1b8c660.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECB06E1224 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:01:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594188098; bh=tSfZ6eHag8OL5VOtVYFKc+zqDXX43W8J44J3iHzOnoA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vddApFtSIbOtNAajQXcrnmXyLCiLczeOQW0Jn+hY/GSRvsIRdIDyjAGiS1jjLgU65 sZB849gu8/xWpXEEtV6ValbKfwLslj8vH+1Cf5Svj0p3t7u8Y0XaznsFz8Eh1p7P2c ykOGcvFYQ6fIzPA5X3vsTzWynwLOSjOJ6QPGWfgY= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 23:01:38 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Defer the definitions of closing and draining states (#3865) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0561426023b_2db03fb2ec4cd9642992de"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 06:01:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0561426023b_2db03fb2ec4cd9642992de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rather than putting these at the top of the section, they work fine being at the end. Updating references was not so onerous either. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3865 -- Commit Summary -- * Move closing/draining section * Update references to closing -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (2) M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (2) M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (114) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3865.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3865.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3865 ----==_mimepart_5f0561426023b_2db03fb2ec4cd9642992de Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Rather than putting these at the top of the section, they work fine being at the end. Updating references was not so onerous either.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3865

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  • Move closing/draining section
  • Update references to closing

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----==_mimepart_5f0561426023b_2db03fb2ec4cd9642992de-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 23:06:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02E13A0859 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:06:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FZfBThaCoeKP for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE2B13A095F for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9727F8C10D3 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:06:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594188383; bh=hPjAi8qT+isUoUs8OCMt0HBDYcynCISLxKiek9D2lpg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZdB+/hpufpIgcxjGRVwcU5Bg912kOGIBCGJxsxXSPVLWVLsBBzazZHwWQq9CCmAj+ SHLQHgRUdie0wHb7sHmy4NoHuQXBqOyqzjqKC7Bd1lfs1vBTmhn8OUWluJZMQAFTWf bcI5djkXT9K3HYw7ADIWP3WR+k4yi9LjlOZig20k= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 23:06:23 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove API requirement for resource allocation (#3838) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f05625f88449_40e3fbe4c6cd96028705d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 06:06:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f05625f88449_40e3fbe4c6cd96028705d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would prefer to leave this. Noting that the level of control is not specified. This also suggests that the stack provide a keep-alive control, but there are likely cases (I'm thinking here of DNS over QUIC) where that is unlikely to be a useful feature. The goal is to list things that the specification believes a generic stack will provide. Maybe we could avoid the implication that such an implementation is incomplete by saying that specialized implementations might provide less than a complete API. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3838#issuecomment-655307229 ----==_mimepart_5f05625f88449_40e3fbe4c6cd96028705d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I would prefer to leave this. Noting that the level of control is not specified.

This also suggests that the stack provide a keep-alive control, but there are likely cases (I'm thinking here of DNS over QUIC) where that is unlikely to be a useful feature.

The goal is to list things that the specification believes a generic stack will provide. Maybe we could avoid the implication that such an implementation is incomplete by saying that specialized implementations might provide less than a complete API.

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This obsession with forward secrecy is a hang-up from Google QUIC. I think that we should instead say that 1-RTT keys are derived from the completed cryptographic handshake instead.

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Closes #3839. 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This claim isn't necessary, as the statement about suitability is what
matters here.

Closes #3839.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3866

Commit Summary

  • Remove claim about 1-RTT keys

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Something like "end points MUST NOT force all their packets to elicit an acknowledgement" would be easier. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3853#issuecomment-655310166 ----==_mimepart_5f0564416cfbe_6c6a3fe44e6cd9604099e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson I think part of the issue is the double negation in "MUST NOT send packets that are exclusively ack-eliciting", which makes it kinda hard to grasp by non-natives. Something like "end points MUST NOT force all their packets to elicit an acknowledgement" would be easier.

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Not saying explicitly that was a small oversight.

Closes #3837.

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This was never explicit for the client as it is usually not possible.

Closes #3855 in a way that perhaps was not anticipated.

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  • Prohibit reading 1-RTT before handshake complete

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This attempts to explain that. Closes #3836. 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This attempts to explain that. Closes #3836. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3869 -- Commit Summary -- * Clearer explanation of caveat on discarding packets -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (3) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3869.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3869.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3869 ----==_mimepart_5f056588d09cc_6e6c3fe882acd960394783 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Those packets that are not authenticated can be discarded, but only if
processing them has no permanent effect on existing state. This
attempts to explain that.

Closes #3836.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3869

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  • Clearer explanation of caveat on discarding packets

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So the above or below is OK?

An endpoint MUST NOT send only ack-eliciting packets as this can result in an infinite feedback loop. It is necessary to send packets that are not ack-eliciting to allow the connection to become idle.

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...because that would create an explicit endorsement of the practice. This text was somewhat carefully negotiated to avoid creating that sort of endorsement.

That said, I expect people to ignore port. But I also expect some servers to be able to recognize the presence of a NAT that uses a pool of addresses and to treat all of those addresses as equivalent also. And in IPv6 there are many cases where parts of the address are not relevant (/64 per host means that you might as well not bother with the last half in a lot of cases now). So there is a risk in narrowly permitting port variations that certain types of address validation shortcuts are implicitly excluded.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 7 23:36:23 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14AE3A097F for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:36:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v89CmldanOC0 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73C0E3A097E for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-e8b54ca.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-e8b54ca.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.39]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1608C0F17 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:36:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594190179; bh=vIE2ThFRQ2fhmgo99Fk91f2v4KGHhrowuEMTVyeEDxk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=psI0xS/fgldB2/py2080IEqCXkEhUidDcsxvrXJEwkHh9qqAehudu+2txmrZ8BczX CThgvz33CwfMCjwalEeUFRQYins4cR070ij1tuW2TBUTZCgGFZXH6ZWD52bWoKjJz3 Gwza2WOL6eKMZvs66WbjtpvwCThlXoB7vbcd6Olc= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 23:36:19 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Mixing connection IDs is OK (#3870) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0569637fa2f_5a5f3fcd310cd96846441a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 06:36:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0569637fa2f_5a5f3fcd310cd96846441a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a loosening of the recommendation regarding mixed connection IDs while coalescing. This says that receivers shouldn't route individual packets to different connections if they are coalesced. (I note that it would be enough to permit them to discard packets for different connections, but a recommendation to apply good sense is also good.) This isn't as strong as might seem theoretically necessary, but we determined it to be OK. We can only coalesce during the handshake, so linkability concerns are moot as addresses are assumed to be stable. With linkability concerns addressed, there was no need to provide any strong requirement that stacks provide the same connection ID for every coalesced packet. Closes #3800. 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This is a loosening of the recommendation regarding mixed connection IDs while coalescing. This says that receivers shouldn't route individual packets to different connections if they are coalesced. (I note that it would be enough to permit them to discard packets for different connections, but a recommendation to apply good sense is also good.)

This isn't as strong as might seem theoretically necessary, but we determined it to be OK. We can only coalesce during the handshake, so linkability concerns are moot as addresses are assumed to be stable. With linkability concerns addressed, there was no need to provide any strong requirement that stacks provide the same connection ID for every coalesced packet.

Closes #3800.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3870

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  • Mixing connection IDs is OK

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This also lifts the strong requirement on authenticating the contents of Version Negotiation. QUIC version 1 does not do this and so does not comply with this requirement. The intent was always that only information that is used needs to be authenticated in this way. (This is a tiny bit of evasion as Version Negotiation is used in QUIC version 1 as a signal that a version is not supported, which results in clients abandoning connections.) Closes #3828. 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I have made a slightly larger tweak.

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----==_mimepart_5f056c2d97da_6cdb3fe44e6cd960241328-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 23:48:29 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9113A099B for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:48:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g1U2xGhFmW7k for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 124FE3A0993 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-28f8021.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-28f8021.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.98]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2486E8C1ED7 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:48:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594190906; bh=80lgHxwC1qvTCFlXZKZQKwK03Z+OhXDKomYwZ8K4F1o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=j0eZHVfIAz+JQzAZDgsW15eR5UZ1GqFzyEot7ndiHKa6MRddsz7/TsYQhWKz4Shni YG2euaj7GyPWS7td78EueZCnPO2K6m1kZsqdoTm3+ygWs7bZOTgedhkYrej1B3h8hz x3mzP81W1iGHc4lwMtwf0em4wAzQqmVWGT/yUN7g= Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 23:48:26 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] More about authenticating Version Negotiation (#3871) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f056c3a16d8b_c7d3ff5396cd9641998a9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 06:48:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f056c3a16d8b_c7d3ff5396cd9641998a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This clarifies that it is a mechanism in the target QUIC version that authenticates the information. This also lifts the strong requirement on authenticating the contents of Version Negotiation. QUIC version 1 does not do this and so does not comply with this requirement. The intent was always that only information that is used needs to be authenticated in this way. (This is a tiny bit of evasion as Version Negotiation is used in QUIC version 1 as a signal that a version is not supported, which results in clients abandoning connections.) Closes #3828. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3871 -- Commit Summary -- * More about authenticating Version Negotiation -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md (8) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3871.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3871.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3871 ----==_mimepart_5f056c3a16d8b_c7d3ff5396cd9641998a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This clarifies that it is a mechanism in the target QUIC version that
authenticates the information.

This also lifts the strong requirement on authenticating the contents of
Version Negotiation. QUIC version 1 does not do this and so does not
comply with this requirement. The intent was always that only
information that is used needs to be authenticated in this way.

(This is a tiny bit of evasion as Version Negotiation is used in QUIC
version 1 as a signal that a version is not supported, which results in
clients abandoning connections.)

Closes #3828.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3871

Commit Summary

  • More about authenticating Version Negotiation

File Changes

Patch Links:

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This uses positive framing for the recommendation to use frames rather
than packets. And it makes that recommendation directly, rather than
implying it.

Closes #3850.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3872

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----==_mimepart_5f05736fcdfab_5bd63fb03f4cd9644338d7-- From nobody Wed Jul 8 00:49:38 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1DC3A0C16 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 00:49:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PHEPkXtpbJZL for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 00:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 764E83A0C12 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 00:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a6a2749.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a6a2749.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.62]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EAD280F85 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 00:49:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594194575; bh=xecIdNL8oc/7iA3T40ac98DS7f2QHTNxnBtNI3nxdJo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=uPHoZoFSr7Ma3i/nVqejM5FjtSsF83XCOjocMPmG8DWNkrBP8MUTeczuQG859jpdM tqSnt1hlTpiHK7sgRBcO8EHzIw7q0i4F5ELO8uQ/EhuDSWza9VgSR+9FuMw3OBeQkq /AOnjR8N/iR/QUEbcIlDCqeQvZiSM7FSWjdDXaJU= Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 00:49:35 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow for other inputs than packets (#3873) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f057a8f82011_32723f86eb4cd9641326c9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 07:49:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f057a8f82011_32723f86eb4cd9641326c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The process for interacting with TLS does not acknowledge the possibility that progress in the handshake might depend on inputs other than CRYPTO frames. In particular, endpoints might need to perform additional checking to decide that the TLS handshake is complete. The most important example being the processing that occurs for certificate validation. This is often an asynchronous process, with OCSP and other muck, so recognizing that explicitly in the draft is worthwhile. This might help tease out one of the causes of the problem discussed in #3821, but it doesn't lead to a solution. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3873 ----==_mimepart_5f057a8f82011_32723f86eb4cd9641326c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The process for interacting with TLS does not acknowledge the possibility that progress in the handshake might depend on inputs other than CRYPTO frames. In particular, endpoints might need to perform additional checking to decide that the TLS handshake is complete. The most important example being the processing that occurs for certificate validation. This is often an asynchronous process, with OCSP and other muck, so recognizing that explicitly in the draft is worthwhile.

This might help tease out one of the causes of the problem discussed in #3821, but it doesn't lead to a solution.

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----==_mimepart_5f057ba34e0b1_3a103f8a31ccd9688802-- From nobody Wed Jul 8 01:39:00 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5243A0CA5 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 01:38:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7PtJ6-ZZ-jb0 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 01:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2F683A0CA4 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 01:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.25.48]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB886A050D for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 01:38:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594197535; bh=qaXK0n4smNMNVWLqfe7M7CuJFn56lUUQBeoq0yaopfk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LJGBf/Y3XYZXqoxxC5CeD6f7uVP4jEkCH63obQO9c9FlK4sCsLVMFFRnIHlOI6j4F 8UPoN2vxubFhGx/jV+AX4E81IgViRZh/qPmNShoQPxyFEsBaMpu8xWmcMJkZf8TUy2 u9GjfzOzhl180t4xQBEEcMlAUvTt1FTUJWM7fsPg= Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 01:38:55 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow endpoints to generate traffic keys asynchronously (#3874) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f05861fafbe8_6c8d3f88380cd9605011a4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 08:38:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f05861fafbe8_6c8d3f88380cd9605011a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As pointed out in #3821, the drafts assume that the traffic keys are generated synchronously. But that's not what we see in the wild. In fact, clients often need to spend time while verifying the certificate, and some if not most of the clients do receive and send QUIC packets while they do so. This PR acknowledges the existence of such implementation, recommending them to buffer the undecryptable packets while they calculate the next key, to prevent loss events that would kill the slow start. It also allows endpoints to postpone arming the PTO timer when it knows that the peer is going to send a handshake message. Closes #3821. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3874 -- Commit Summary -- * allow endpoints to generate traffic keys asynchronously, write down the expectations in relation -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (22) M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (8) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3874.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3874.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3874 ----==_mimepart_5f05861fafbe8_6c8d3f88380cd9605011a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As pointed out in #3821, the drafts assume that the traffic keys are generated synchronously. But that's not what we see in the wild. In fact, clients often need to spend time while verifying the certificate, and some if not most of the clients do receive and send QUIC packets while they do so.

This PR acknowledges the existence of such implementation, recommending them to buffer the undecryptable packets while they calculate the next key, to prevent loss events that would kill the slow start. It also allows endpoints to postpone arming the PTO timer when it knows that the peer is going to send a handshake message.

Closes #3821.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3874

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  • allow endpoints to generate traffic keys asynchronously, write down the expectations in relation

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I have reservations about this.

Firstly, this should not be about what an endpoint "thinks" about the state of a peer.

Second, #3873 summarizes my view of the root problem, which is not about key generation taking time, but extra validation.

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----==_mimepart_5f058a7c6880f_63973fd646acd968145525-- From nobody Wed Jul 8 02:45:47 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CAFB3A0CE6 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 02:45:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tc_EoFydn7yr for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 02:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D44693A0CE2 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 02:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0eea13f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0eea13f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.109.26]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00508C07B0 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 02:45:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594201543; bh=rq5vQ7n6wM38+j5BHSHVmMN4S4IRcS/rFlJCaPj09v8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kgtmwhKImQXfDIwSwG2zCGB5HIjd924lwi26v+3d/c5yRP4mA9V+P2DbCYKAsnqi5 22ucAPOVpm1R/nutwyAcrFT8yWFhv62pdabbvW6y/q25uGrW0QeHwgo8dnT/q/PjhL JCv0kVvFZQzXzMj5N639B1GVkB0TLCHwOzO8rKn4= Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 02:45:43 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PTO after handshake completion is not well-defined (#3831) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0595c7d005d_3fa53f852a6cd95c2708a5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 09:45:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0595c7d005d_3fa53f852a6cd95c2708a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Discussed the issue offline, @marten-seemann and I think that there is a strong example that does not involve multiple PN spaces. Consider the following case: * endpoint sends Initial * after 1 second, endpoint sends Initial (PTO) * after 1ms, the endpoint receives an ACK for Initial (PTO) At this point, the endpoint would declare persistent congestion because the duration of congestion (1 seconds) is greater than the threshold (i.e. `(smoothed_rtt + 4 * rttvar + max_ack_delay) * kPersistentCongestionThreshold` where smoothed_rtt is 1ms, rttvar is 1ms, and max_ack_delay is zero). The problem is that determining persistent congestion based on SRTT is not a good idea until the RTT estimate becomes stable. I think the easiest fix (which is beneficial at this late stage) would be to disable persistent congestion until the handshake concludes. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3831#issuecomment-655413052 ----==_mimepart_5f0595c7d005d_3fa53f852a6cd95c2708a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Discussed the issue offline, @marten-seemann and I think that there is a strong example that does not involve multiple PN spaces. Consider the following case:

  • endpoint sends Initial
  • after 1 second, endpoint sends Initial (PTO)
  • after 1ms, the endpoint receives an ACK for Initial (PTO)

At this point, the endpoint would declare persistent congestion because the duration of congestion (1 seconds) is greater than the threshold (i.e. (smoothed_rtt + 4 * rttvar + max_ack_delay) * kPersistentCongestionThreshold where smoothed_rtt is 1ms, rttvar is 1ms, and max_ack_delay is zero).

The problem is that determining persistent congestion based on SRTT is not a good idea until the RTT estimate becomes stable.

I think the easiest fix (which is beneficial at this late stage) would be to disable persistent congestion until the handshake concludes.

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Consider the following case:

  • endpoint sends Initial
  • after 1 second, endpoint sends Initial (PTO)
  • after 1ms, the endpoint receives an ACK for Initial (PTO)

At this point, the endpoint would declare persistent congestion because the duration of congestion (1 seconds) is greater than the threshold (i.e. (smoothed_rtt + 4 * rttvar + max_ack_delay) * kPersistentCongestionThreshold where smoothed_rtt is 1ms, rttvar is 1ms, and max_ack_delay is zero).

The problem is that determining persistent congestion based on SRTT is not a good idea until the RTT estimate becomes stable.

I think the easiest fix (which is beneficial at this late stage) would be to disable persistent congestion until the handshake concludes.

Spawning off from #3831 as a dedicated issue.

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@kazuho pushed 2 commits.

  • 4e4957d clarify the precise condition
  • 872e2f4 QUIC does not generate keys, TLS provides them

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@martinthomson Thank you for your comments. I think the two new commits address your concerns. PTAL.

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  • 4323075 Rearrange the text, based on @marten-seeman's point that the intent of the existing text has already been to forbid PTO timer to be armed for 1-RTT packets until the handshake completes, and that the pseudo-code is written as such

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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +To remedy this issue, a RESET_STREAM frame ({{frame-reset-stream}})
+includes the final size of data sent on the stream.  On receiving a
+RESET_STREAM frame, a receiver knows how many bytes the sender claims
+were sent on that stream before the RESET_STREAM frame, and the
+receiver MUST use the final size of the stream to account for all
+bytes sent on the stream in its connection level flow controller.

Yes, that's the change. Of course, you could also have decided to use a fill column that emacs already had :)

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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +- if 0-RTT data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS
   resumption ticket sent to the client; and
-- if Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
-  client's resumption ticket and enable rejecting Early Data based on that
+- if 0-RTT data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
+  client's resumption ticket and enable rejecting 0-RTT data based on that
   information.

I'm fine with Early Data but it was undefined, so this seemed like the easiest fix. But a defn. would work too.

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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1527,12 +1530,13 @@ Connection ID is chosen by the recipient of the packet and is used to provide
 consistent routing; the Source Connection ID is used to set the Destination
 Connection ID used by the peer.
 
-During the handshake, packets with the long header ({{long-header}}) are used to
-establish the connection IDs in each direction. Each endpoint uses the Source
-Connection ID field to specify the connection ID that is used in the Destination
-Connection ID field of packets being sent to them. Upon receiving a packet, each
-endpoint sets the Destination Connection ID it sends to match the value of the
-Source Connection ID that it receives.
+During the handshake, packets with the long header ({{long-header}})
+are used to establish the connection IDs in each direction. Each
+endpoint uses the Source Connection ID field to specify the connection
+ID that is used in the Destination Connection ID field of packets
+being sent to them. Upon receiving the first packet from the peer,

yes, I think first Initial

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +Once the handshake is confirmed, the client SHOULD select one of the two values
+preferred addresses provided by the server and initiate path validation (see

This is what the text already said, but I think its confusing. My suggestion is "values for preferred address provided by the server

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What I'm saying is that we should probably reserve the word "integrity" for when there are strong keys.

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I see what you mean, but I think that this kind of hinting at the user without explicitly stating it does a disservice to the implementor, who then needs to figure it out for themselves. IMO we should explicitly state the exceptions that the WG believes are permissible and then add this escape hatch text.

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@marten-seemann approved this pull request.

If I understand correctly, the changes to -recovery are purely editorial now.
Only the changes to -tls could be considered a design change.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -518,14 +518,17 @@ or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always
 set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the
 correct packet number space.
 
+When setting the PTO timer, the ApplicationData packet number space (Section
+4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming
+the PTO for ApplicationData prevents a client from retransmitting a 0-RTT packet
+on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to decrypt 0-RTT

The client knows that the server is able to decrypt 0-RTT packets once it receives the ServerHello. The reason why it shouldn't retransmit these packets is that the client doesn't have the 1-RTT keys it would need to unprotected the ACKs sent for those packets.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight,
-the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
-with one exception. The ApplicationData packet number space (Section 4.1.1
-of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming
-the PTO for ApplicationData prevents a client from retransmitting a 0-RTT
-packet on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to
-decrypt 0-RTT packets, and prevents a server from sending a 1-RTT packet on
-a PTO expiration before it has the keys to process an acknowledgement.
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout.

This now seems to contradict the previous paragraph.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1167,7 +1167,8 @@ expected keys are available.
 
 Invalid packets without packet protection, such as Initial, Retry, or Version
 Negotiation, MAY be discarded.  An endpoint MUST generate a connection error if
-it commits changes to state before discovering an error.
+processing of the contents of these packets prior to discovering an error
+results in changes to the state of a connection that cannot be reverted.

s/results/resulted?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight,
-the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
-with one exception. The ApplicationData packet number space (Section 4.1.1
-of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming
-the PTO for ApplicationData prevents a client from retransmitting a 0-RTT
-packet on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to
-decrypt 0-RTT packets, and prevents a server from sending a 1-RTT packet on
-a PTO expiration before it has the keys to process an acknowledgement.
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout.

Yeah technically we can say that "the timer MUST be set for the (non-ignored) packet number space with the earliest timeout." But does that make a difference?

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  • b5e0c16 both endpoints refrain from sending probes before obtaining the read keys

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -518,14 +518,17 @@ or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always
 set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the
 correct packet number space.
 
+When setting the PTO timer, the ApplicationData packet number space (Section
+4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming
+the PTO for ApplicationData prevents a client from retransmitting a 0-RTT packet
+on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to decrypt 0-RTT

I think you are correct in pointing out the ACK case, though

  • the argument to not send 0-RTT probes before learning if the peer is accepting 0-RTT still holds; that's the only signal available to the client when the server rejects 0-RTT
  • technically the acceptance (or rejection) of 0-RTT data is transmitting in EncryptedExtensions, not ServerHello.

In b5e0c16 I've changed the text to point out that both endpoints are covered by the ACK case.

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----==_mimepart_5f05ce7e98c42_de93fb4828cd9645477f2-- From nobody Wed Jul 8 07:14:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280493A0C35 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 07:14:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SixaWCq1GO8V for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 07:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C04D3A0C21 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 07:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1dbcc59.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1dbcc59.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.105.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A422F8C0F57 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 07:14:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594217645; bh=aVz/JilA+KRDHZQydstrGMENlbJrcDvPwBPOYz2amYs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=JIl24zJpcWXq/qOaiYKwSJXaFaGjj8nzYyZQrnyTt8usyvDUE/cW76fgJrhrYD9TS s0mL/oUmKvTx4sCn1UfRMkzsXa+BzL7nUuYdk8Xvfg/wzwHVIZVmiflE0106JTsirX xmhGXIvBaPNT7JRLP1T6hLYeuzq/3C3vhaaSSFHc= Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 07:14:05 -0700 From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MUST NOT bundle, etc. (#3853) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f05d4ad91675_25f93fb5a3ccd95c535031"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 14:14:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f05d4ad91675_25f93fb5a3ccd95c535031 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, I don't think that works. You are speaking of generic ack-eliciting packets, or not, but the problem is much better described and understood if you make a specific statement about ack, ack of ack, and ack loops. You may want to generalize after that to other non ack eliciting frames, but the only such in the main spec are path challenges, so that's not a very high priority. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3853#issuecomment-655546796 ----==_mimepart_5f05d4ad91675_25f93fb5a3ccd95c535031 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

No, I don't think that works. You are speaking of generic ack-eliciting packets, or not, but the problem is much better described and understood if you make a specific statement about ack, ack of ack, and ack loops. You may want to generalize after that to other non ack eliciting frames, but the only such in the main spec are path challenges, so that's not a very high priority.

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----==_mimepart_5f05d4ad91675_25f93fb5a3ccd95c535031-- From nobody Wed Jul 8 11:32:38 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D52D3A0788 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 11:32:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NCs0ve41rpVc for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 11:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9ED03A0784 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 11:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1434A661191 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 11:32:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594233155; bh=kjvS3/zMfVCph51fo5+uRpj3i3BJE1MbpR3yaHh9KpY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YuZM9BtAQSfdQ1C/OJjS4+6IksvxlXjc0aBebcuPqRx6is/b4HixWkk61M7chjN7g eVT3m2jAcjjAzv1bowjhg2+UiqK9bCdqaNGD25gJi3QO/wdzfy4cAS37vPqHFfGAV6 IANme5BE5VmC0qi1jpUOITbZM313UfK6V7VQXEU0= Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 11:32:35 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't Stateless Reset probes from IPs you wouldn't talk to (#3832) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f061143423e_340a3fbfe4acd968172813"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 18:32:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f061143423e_340a3fbfe4acd968172813 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, but this is specifically not a different instance. The defense in that case is to use different keys, so the generated stateless reset isn't valid for the original connection. The section in question could perhaps be augmented to talk about behavior when an instance receives a packet associated with an active connection, but from a source that it considers unacceptable for that connection. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3832#issuecomment-655685196 ----==_mimepart_5f061143423e_340a3fbfe4acd968172813 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yeah, but this is specifically not a different instance. The defense in that case is to use different keys, so the generated stateless reset isn't valid for the original connection.

The section in question could perhaps be augmented to talk about behavior when an instance receives a packet associated with an active connection, but from a source that it considers unacceptable for that connection.

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----==_mimepart_5f061143423e_340a3fbfe4acd968172813-- From nobody Wed Jul 8 12:59:10 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0493A07A1 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 12:59:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SJNGio1FqqtG for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 12:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1DEC3A02C1 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 12:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-e8b54ca.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-e8b54ca.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.39]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BF46E1E19 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 12:59:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594238346; bh=5gOY5jWWvFLJQjxvFiskveem8RWEyEYRqdxGsYhw/bk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GQmAcC3dKMgJTGX9Pxby+v6QBdxSRAc0jA9OaZgPZy4uQycv7hzm7Tl5iBHd6BFIT h6xd0Hb3oLVkdOFWYb8TH04MAgLdDB4Omz3XLj3s+27qYQHQSbg90bRR0ebwYVHP3K 6r3+KhQqUxpzz9hStbP+VF5GpknTAOYcYCTREod4= Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 12:59:06 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't Stateless Reset probes from IPs you wouldn't talk to (#3832) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f06258a257d_b123fdc054cd968162979"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 19:59:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f06258a257d_b123fdc054cd968162979 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I think that we do have this text. A [whole section](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#name-stateless-reset-oracle) in fact: > > > If a packet can be routed to different instances that share a static key, for example by changing an IP address or port, then an attacker can cause the server to send a stateless reset. > > The subtle distinction here is not that you are unable to respond, but instead unwilling. Why would you send a stateless reset when you are pretending that the route doesn't work? (Sorry, this just seems like self-inflicted harm.) In the case of unsupported migration, the thinking is that a stateless reset would cause the path validation to fail in one round trip(opposed to a timeout), which is very useful if it's the only path the client can use. I think it's worth saying something about this case, but I'd I'm not sure we need normative language. If a server thinks the best course of action is to terminate the connection in this case, then sending a stateless reset is still the right thing to do. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3832#issuecomment-655725193 ----==_mimepart_5f06258a257d_b123fdc054cd968162979 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think that we do have this text. A whole section in fact:

If a packet can be routed to different instances that share a static key, for example by changing an IP address or port, then an attacker can cause the server to send a stateless reset.

The subtle distinction here is not that you are unable to respond, but instead unwilling. Why would you send a stateless reset when you are pretending that the route doesn't work? (Sorry, this just seems like self-inflicted harm.)

In the case of unsupported migration, the thinking is that a stateless reset would cause the path validation to fail in one round trip(opposed to a timeout), which is very useful if it's the only path the client can use.

I think it's worth saying something about this case, but I'd I'm not sure we need normative language. If a server thinks the best course of action is to terminate the connection in this case, then sending a stateless reset is still the right thing to do.

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Since the server could be blocked until more packets are received from= the client, it is the client=E2=80=99s responsibility to send packets to= unblock the server until it is certain that the server has finished its = address validation (see Section 8 of [QUIC-TRANSPORT]). That is, the clie= nt MUST set the probe timer if the client has not received an acknowledge= ment for one of its Handshake or 1-RTT packets, and has not received a HA= NDSHAKE_DONE frame. If Handshake keys are available to the client, it MUS= T send a Handshake packet, and otherwise it MUST send an= Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes.

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As the sentence currently reads, the size requirement only applies if = the client does not have handshake keys. However, since the server's ant= i-amplification limit is in bytes, not packets, sending a small Handshake= packet will not enable the server to make forward progress.

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I would suggest the sentence be rearranged to require sending a packet= in a 1200-byte datagram, and switch only the type of packed based on pos= session of handshake keys. This might be the intent of the current text,= in which case this issue is editorial.

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Lots of parentheses. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3877 -- Commit Summary -- * WGLC review nits -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (126) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3877.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3877.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3877 ----==_mimepart_5f062a7fb9951_46b33fa901ecd96896980 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Again, mostly nits. Lots of parentheses.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -103,12 +103,12 @@ TCP implementations.
 
 Definitions of terms that are used in this document:
 
-Ack-eliciting Frames:
+Ack-eliciting frames:

I'd either title-case or sentence-case these terms, but right now it's mixed.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -338,7 +338,7 @@ mean variation.
 The calculation of smoothed_rtt uses path latency after adjusting RTT samples
 for acknowledgement delays. These delays are computed using the ACK Delay
 field of the ACK frame as described in Section 19.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.
-For packets sent in the ApplicationData packet number space, a peer limits
+For packets sent in the Application Data packet number space, a peer limits

This is two separate words in the other drafts; I changed it in the prose but left it in the pseudo-code, since it's an enum value there.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -430,13 +430,13 @@ thresholds to minimize recovery latency.
 
 The RECOMMENDED initial value for the packet reordering threshold
 (kPacketThreshold) is 3, based on best practices for TCP loss detection
-{{?RFC5681}} {{?RFC6675}}.  Implementations SHOULD NOT use a packet threshold
-less than 3, to keep in line with TCP {{?RFC5681}}.
+({{?RFC5681}}, {{?RFC6675}}).  Implementations SHOULD NOT use a packet threshold
+less than 3, to keep in line with TCP ({{?RFC5681}}).

"to keep in line with" felt awkward, but I didn't come up with a rephrasing I was confident of. Maybe "comparable to TCP"?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -711,18 +710,18 @@ before Initial packets, early 0-RTT packets will be declared lost, but that
 is expected to be infrequent.
 
 It is expected that keys are discarded after packets encrypted with them would
-be acknowledged or declared lost.  Initial secrets however might be destroyed

This "might" is a MUST.

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This isn't shorter, but how about: "A receiver MUST NOT generate and bundle an ack-eliciting frame with packets that would otherwise be non-ack-eliciting, to avoid an infinite feedback loop of acknowledgements." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3853#issuecomment-655756395 ----==_mimepart_5f0634d93a659_3703f96b88cd9609847c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It's not really the bundling that's the issue, but the idea that one shouldn't send extra ack-eliciting frames when sending an ack.

This isn't shorter, but how about:
"A receiver MUST NOT generate and bundle an ack-eliciting frame with packets that would
otherwise be non-ack-eliciting, to avoid an infinite feedback loop of acknowledgements."

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Timely sending of +updates to flow control limits can improve performance, however an excessive ```suggestion updates to flow control limits can improve performance. However, an excessive ``` > @@ -968,6 +968,24 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames. +## Flow Control Performance + +Unlike TCP, QUIC decouples flow control from congestion control. This can +release pressure on implementing a good flow control algorithm that governs both +how limits are increased and when new limits are advertised. An endpoint can +use flow control to constrain resource commitments without an optimized +algorithm by allocating buffers for receiving data that are significantly larger +than the bandwidth-delay product (BDP). 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I think explicitly calling this out as a trade-off that implementations will need to experiment with, but which does not affect protocol interoperability is the correct path here. Flow control is a mechanism, not an algorithm.

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On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 2:04 PM ianswett <notifications@github.com> wrote:

> It's not really the bundling that's the issue, but the idea that one
> shouldn't send extra ack-eliciting frames when sending an ack.
>
> This isn't shorter, but how about:
> "A receiver MUST NOT generate and bundle an ack-eliciting frame with
> packets that would
> otherwise be non-ack-eliciting, to avoid an infinite feedback loop of
> acknowledgements."
> You are receiving this because you authored the thread.
>
>
I feel like this has the same problem as before.

I would suggest that part of the issue here is that we are trying to make
something really crisp. Looking at the rest of the graf, where we
actually endorse this practice, I suggest we do:

A receiver that sends only non-ack-eliciting packets, such as ACK frames,
might
not receive an acknowledgement for a long period of time. This could
cause the
receiver to maintain state for a large number of ACK frames for a long
period of
time, and ACK frames it sends could be unnecessarily large. In such a
case, a
receiver could bundle a PING or other small ack-eliciting frame to elicit
an ACK from the peer. Caution: If receivers add
additional ack-eliciting frames to every ACK, this would create
an infinite feedback loop of acknowledgements. Therefore, receivers SHOULD
only do this occasionally, such as once per round trip.

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I'm not sure I have a better suggestion than the existing text for @ekr concern, but I noticed a different small possible issue.

The process of validating the path is very likely to give you a RTT measurement for the path, so it might be worth tweaking the MUST to say "MUST ... and discard any round trip estimates associated with the old path" or just "MUST not use round trip time measurements from the old path on the new one."? One could keep the estimates for the old path, as we've discussed, so I think saying you must reset or discard the information is a bit strong.

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I like this change. In our implementation, we use the first destination connection ID in a packet to route to a given connection and then the connection object is responsible for detecting the presence of coalesced packets and validating that they were meant for this connection.

However, shouldn't this be a MUST instead of a SHOULD? Since this failure mode is easy to detect, can't we mandate checking?

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@DavidSchinazi : Whether this is easy to detect or not depends on the implementation. I don't see a need to mandate checking.

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----==_mimepart_5f0656799392d_7aca3f83a32cd95c2685a9-- From nobody Wed Jul 8 16:41:50 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0AD3A098C for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 16:41:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uGjfiNftzlJI for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 16:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C2B23A098B for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 16:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243E3521D95 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 16:41:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594251706; bh=OFdBjbHYGb8noNu2pTC0Q7NALl2+DNGf2LXYMDrSFxY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YTu7gx3VqQVjvpgJTA9gBC3D80W/k8ArV3Pzm6XKEe0JmKI12kvPKYKmLjNSMKJRH oxV87gHBAF/j/gxmVJDPpzvX+ETwVCBQaS3Uq45zI/eDkAOLKRUmuH9+ZCDQE1rtSy wWnQO6YytI3PQGU85isS1lDqEYi7PAml3yEDsBYk= Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 16:41:46 -0700 From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ban offering TLS < 1.3 (#3878) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0659ba157a8_21c13fb40e6cd96c281546"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:41:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0659ba157a8_21c13fb40e6cd96c281546 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The TLS spec says: > A badly configured TLS implementation could negotiate TLS 1.2 or another older version of TLS. An endpoint MUST terminate the connection if a version of TLS older than 1.3 is negotiated. I would propose that we forbid clients from offering 1.2 or older [and maybe require servers to enforce this]. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3878 ----==_mimepart_5f0659ba157a8_21c13fb40e6cd96c281546 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The TLS spec says:

A badly configured TLS implementation could negotiate TLS 1.2 or another older
version of TLS. An endpoint MUST terminate the connection if a version of TLS
older than 1.3 is negotiated.

I would propose that we forbid clients from offering 1.2 or older [and maybe require servers to enforce this].

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----==_mimepart_5f0659ba157a8_21c13fb40e6cd96c281546-- From nobody Wed Jul 8 16:51:36 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038BA3A098E for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 16:51:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AjRNU9_kfavB for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 16:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2267A3A09B8 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 16:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-fa7043e.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-fa7043e.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.109.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BC18C0A53 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 16:51:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594252291; bh=ZHniBQvyG0DjpjbViKI59dzDLx7KgTpKFqEJzVXYd7U=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=sGyqa0BgEnmjz5SkwtijYUPu4N1H5GUdj2suRUTTYFpSKBB7AYVxAOAubzqAFMzKW sIUkFIW9z6C6dDUMtLsyn/co4yeneq637tzwx21/4YB5Yg0KGc8jored1dobpMpPhf pg/3bAceZOU1SpRyrM/iwjwZaSdm9xCkFb051Js4= Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 16:51:31 -0700 From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Mixing connection IDs is OK (#3870) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f065c03469d5_23083fac3bccd96417446a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:51:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f065c03469d5_23083fac3bccd96417446a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @janaiyengar I don't see whether this is *needed* as the right metric. Our design so far has been to mandate compliance checks unless they're particularly hard or expensive. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3870#issuecomment-655815532 ----==_mimepart_5f065c03469d5_23083fac3bccd96417446a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar I don't see whether this is needed as the right metric. Our design so far has been to mandate compliance checks unless they're particularly hard or expensive.

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I like EKR's text, except for the once per round trip part. Don't do that, because it leads to a loop of round trip period. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3853#issuecomment-655818057 ----==_mimepart_5f065e3e6acce_2dfb3ffcc9ecd96038081 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Alomost there. I like EKR's text, except for the once per round trip part. Don't do that, because it leads to a loop of round trip period.

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My interpretation here is that the single packet loss does not result in persistent congestion as it spans precisely one packet. That changes of course if there are two packets sent on PTO and the first of those is lost as the losses span multiple packets over a longer period.

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----==_mimepart_5f066a32f28be_4e83f9675ccd9682957d2-- From nobody Wed Jul 8 17:55:30 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E722E3A0BFC for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:55:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ugNBXajaGDnl for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F5703A0B6E for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-56fcc46.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-56fcc46.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.102.32]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CCD120276 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:55:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594256119; bh=YUbcy6tkYAYLamhnRx5VKcQgaAP8kfvMu2tPo8GbXEA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RsrtIFitDNOMmpbCFYAYUSKN8vP05L7ttzntWG/f31DJ8Fa/sUu3jHaeCs8ug/awy 45/fl7vmG6EzmKVYAE6o4UC+XyVHOhub/ZNrwdD+BVnCClp+4iKX7yJSvuYcdidiuM MjTnE6lkzyk3/hzlqshvCMsXjhhhzWPnakeQ5loM= Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 17:55:19 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Which DCID determines Initial keys (#3862) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f066af78374a_6b113fc2a6ccd9604219b5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 00:55:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f066af78374a_6b113fc2a6ccd9604219b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson commented on this pull request. > +The Destination Connection ID field from the first Initial packet sent by a +client is used to determine packet protection keys for Initial packets. These +keys change after receiving a Retry packet; see Section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. However, this suggestion is incorrect. You can change the value of the Destination Connection ID field. After receiving an Initial, the client sets the Destination Connection ID field to the value the server chooses in the Source Connection ID field. This updates the value used in Initial packets (such as an ACK), but does not change the keys. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3862#discussion_r451903673 ----==_mimepart_5f066af78374a_6b113fc2a6ccd9604219b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +The Destination Connection ID field from the first Initial packet sent by a
+client is used to determine packet protection keys for Initial packets.  These
+keys change after receiving a Retry packet; see Section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.

However, this suggestion is incorrect. You can change the value of the Destination Connection ID field. After receiving an Initial, the client sets the Destination Connection ID field to the value the server chooses in the Source Connection ID field. This updates the value used in Initial packets (such as an ACK), but does not change the keys.

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----==_mimepart_5f066af78374a_6b113fc2a6ccd9604219b5-- From nobody Wed Jul 8 18:00:19 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3EC3A0AAA for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:00:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oQeaWaYHVLa3 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1CC83A0AA2 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.55]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05E8A0920 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:00:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594256415; bh=TzNTnBNnCdkIXt453OeyouqYR9NdrXIHYiqDbDEeJ/I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=T04HcUFlRwcdsSYyJgNLe7EFCx5OOObxP4gqZfV/UbTZ4Bxv3UkzltRP6LfMaVTR1 1dGKJX15Kyce5FZA/n1os1CY+Lk0vSaBNfkzGGqGezq8r8RWf/hrqAomlnYzW2ULT4 /apsqPLbK88SybtTeWdzX6nENQ1PR74w5y6hSeZI= Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 18:00:15 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow endpoints to generate traffic keys asynchronously (#3874) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f066c1fb141b_349c3fe2deacd96419978d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 01:00:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f066c1fb141b_349c3fe2deacd96419978d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson commented on this pull request. The recovery piece is much clearer, but I think we need a different solution for the TLS stuff. > When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight, -the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout, -with one exception. The ApplicationData packet number space (Section 4.1.1 -of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming -the PTO for ApplicationData prevents a client from retransmitting a 0-RTT -packet on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to -decrypt 0-RTT packets, and prevents a server from sending a 1-RTT packet on -a PTO expiration before it has the keys to process an acknowledgement. +the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout. It probably pays to be precise in this case. You could instead say that you set the Initial or Handshake PTO timer based on which space has the earliest timeout. > @@ -501,9 +501,11 @@ handshake, new data is requested from TLS after providing received data. As keys for new encryption levels become available, TLS provides QUIC with those keys. Separately, as keys at a given encryption level become available to TLS, TLS indicates to QUIC that reading or writing keys at that encryption level are -available. These events are not asynchronous; they always occur immediately -after TLS is provided with new handshake bytes, or after TLS produces handshake -bytes. +available. While waiting for TLS to provide these keys, an endpoint SHOULD +buffer the received packets marked as protected by the keys yet to be provided, +and process them once those keys become available. If the keys are generated +asynchronously, an endpoint MAY continue responding to the received packets that +are processable while waiting for TLS to provide these keys. I think that this fixates on the wrong aspect of the problem. This text can instead just say "if keys are not yet available, and endpoint MAY continue to process those packets for which it has keys". Or similar. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3874#pullrequestreview-445222013 ----==_mimepart_5f066c1fb141b_349c3fe2deacd96419978d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

The recovery piece is much clearer, but I think we need a different solution for the TLS stuff.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight,
-the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
-with one exception. The ApplicationData packet number space (Section 4.1.1
-of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming
-the PTO for ApplicationData prevents a client from retransmitting a 0-RTT
-packet on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to
-decrypt 0-RTT packets, and prevents a server from sending a 1-RTT packet on
-a PTO expiration before it has the keys to process an acknowledgement.
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout.

It probably pays to be precise in this case. You could instead say that you set the Initial or Handshake PTO timer based on which space has the earliest timeout.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -501,9 +501,11 @@ handshake, new data is requested from TLS after providing received data.
 As keys for new encryption levels become available, TLS provides QUIC with those
 keys.  Separately, as keys at a given encryption level become available to TLS,
 TLS indicates to QUIC that reading or writing keys at that encryption level are
-available.  These events are not asynchronous; they always occur immediately
-after TLS is provided with new handshake bytes, or after TLS produces handshake
-bytes.
+available.  While waiting for TLS to provide these keys, an endpoint SHOULD
+buffer the received packets marked as protected by the keys yet to be provided,
+and process them once those keys become available.  If the keys are generated
+asynchronously, an endpoint MAY continue responding to the received packets that
+are processable while waiting for TLS to provide these keys.

I think that this fixates on the wrong aspect of the problem. This text can instead just say "if keys are not yet available, and endpoint MAY continue to process those packets for which it has keys". Or similar.

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This is not something we can guarantee in general as we don't protect the assembly of packets into datagrams. If you feel strongly about that, please open an issue.

FWIW, I think that most stacks will do this just fine, but I'm concerned that if start to build on top of mechanisms that aren't authenticated, we get unpredictable results. Maybe QUICv2 can authenticate how packets are coalesced.

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This isn't meant to be a disservice to the implementer -- to an unaware implementer, the requirement is clear: reset the RTT and the congestion controller. This is meant to provide an escape hatch for those experimenting or for those who have other sources of information. For example, it might be possible that address changes within a /24 are also NAT rebinding (and there's evidence of this), so we want to allow endpoints to use this knowledge, but we don't want to specify that behavior.

I think a "MUST ... unless" captures that.

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----==_mimepart_5f066e9991fc5_2bf63fed66ecd9642427c6-- From nobody Wed Jul 8 18:12:22 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3C53A0AEE for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:12:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G1hBzeAutoPj for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA5F53A0AE9 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1ac52d7.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1ac52d7.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.25.52]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08314521E68 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:12:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594257139; bh=g819G8eCGMtnlrgkq5CFiZs31PgtdiwMoI67hfjgpoM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tQoHHtmowcaDuAanzxuGPPot7j/NqmjroEw2Mm+Tgf373xu+pcp616UvwDxYbwLVj 3vBxKWUMsmOj0XlGkGch3iLqvR0DrZjN08ZZHUNP8yIXISPgtWRywpIX06uvKBaXFH rZ6mTaGYGEpFldLMd0bwelybA7GIw2mhvdEDWwgo= Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 18:12:18 -0700 From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Mixing connection IDs is OK (#3870) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f066ef2ebc59_67a63fa9080cd96026342c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 01:12:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f066ef2ebc59_67a63fa9080cd96026342c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fair enough, I don't feel too strongly on this one. Either way, this PR makes the text better so please don't consider my comments as blocking it - I think we should land this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3870#issuecomment-655837102 ----==_mimepart_5f066ef2ebc59_67a63fa9080cd96026342c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fair enough, I don't feel too strongly on this one. Either way, this PR makes the text better so please don't consider my comments as blocking it - I think we should land this.

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jul 8 18:27:48 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3773A0B41 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:27:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.697 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.697 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GGVgpyguCgCS for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 842813A0B2E for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.39]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5876A123E for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:27:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594258064; bh=ehtpMy0jI3YBIvGUT3qbNgQ+s2Zf7O7JkGz1Vb5RKj0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pGXV0wMeQCTZRJ412OPXn9McaGX0lxIO/UYO+24C2z6meiB1qASyf7BL8zgJtY/Rq VYZQN1R7fqOzszNj2wmFcKPEmcuRMVkMh2zkeCaHywCo5qyhLMFTapUupXlpnl9IDU cgxy8J3F6lwSY3Mm5ddODoBQevro+IUut/pXYzyw= Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 18:27:44 -0700 From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow endpoints to generate traffic keys asynchronously (#3874) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0672909e398_624e3fc0348cd960274663"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 01:27:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0672909e398_624e3fc0348cd960274663 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @marten-seemann commented on this pull request. > @@ -518,14 +518,22 @@ or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the correct packet number space. +When setting the PTO timer, the ApplicationData packet number space (Section +4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming +the PTO for ApplicationData prevents unnecessary transmissions on a PTO +expiration, such as: + +* an endpoint sending probe packets before obtaining the keys to process an + acknowledgement, + +* a client sending 0-RTT probe packets before confirming that the server is able I believe we should remove this bullet point. See https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3874#discussion_r451515406 for the reasoning. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -518,14 +518,22 @@ or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always
 set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the
 correct packet number space.
 
+When setting the PTO timer, the ApplicationData packet number space (Section
+4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming
+the PTO for ApplicationData prevents unnecessary transmissions on a PTO
+expiration, such as:
+
+* an endpoint sending probe packets before obtaining the keys to process an
+  acknowledgement,
+
+* a client sending 0-RTT probe packets before confirming that the server is able

I believe we should remove this bullet point. See #3874 (comment) for the reasoning.

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This ensures the PTO is always set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the correct packet number space. +When setting the PTO timer, the ApplicationData packet number space (Section +4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming +the PTO for ApplicationData prevents unnecessary transmissions on a PTO +expiration, such as: + +* an endpoint sending probe packets before obtaining the keys to process an + acknowledgement, + +* a client sending 0-RTT probe packets before confirming that the server is able + to decrypt 0-RTT packets, or Maybe this can be made more generic: A receiver might lack the keys necessary to process packets, or the sender might lack the keys necessary to process acknowledgments. This occurs when the client sends 0-RTT packets as the server might not accept 0-RTT and the client will not have 1-RTT keys for processing acknowledgments until the handshake completes. This occurs for 1-RTT packets as either endpoint might not have the ability to read until the handshake is complete. Though this made me realize: we say "complete", but if you need to know that you have keys AND you peer has keys, you need to wait for "confirmed". -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3874#pullrequestreview-445236854 ----==_mimepart_5f06776de8dcc_55813f88232cd964132995 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -518,14 +518,22 @@ or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always
 set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the
 correct packet number space.
 
+When setting the PTO timer, the ApplicationData packet number space (Section
+4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming
+the PTO for ApplicationData prevents unnecessary transmissions on a PTO
+expiration, such as:
+
+* an endpoint sending probe packets before obtaining the keys to process an
+  acknowledgement,
+
+* a client sending 0-RTT probe packets before confirming that the server is able
+  to decrypt 0-RTT packets, or

Maybe this can be made more generic:

A receiver might lack the keys necessary to process packets, or the sender might lack the keys necessary to process acknowledgments. This occurs when the client sends 0-RTT packets as the server might not accept 0-RTT and the client will not have 1-RTT keys for processing acknowledgments until the handshake completes. This occurs for 1-RTT packets as either endpoint might not have the ability to read until the handshake is complete.

Though this made me realize: we say "complete", but if you need to know that you have keys AND you peer has keys, you need to wait for "confirmed".

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@martinthomson is right. The example should be:

  • endpoint sends Initial (PN 1)
  • after 1 second, endpoint sends two Initials on a PTO (PN 2 and PN 3)
  • after 1ms, the endpoint receives an ACK for PN 3

Now we have a loss spanning over 1s, which is >> PTO.

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I like EKR's text, except for the once per round trip part. > Don't do that, because it leads to a loop of round trip period > That 1-RTT thing came from the previous text, so I was just retaining it. I have no personal opinion. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3853#issuecomment-655856942 ----==_mimepart_5f067f50b9192_22d83fab4a0cd96c178976 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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> Alomost there. I like EKR's text, except for the once per round trip part.
> Don't do that, because it leads to a loop of round trip period
>

That 1-RTT thing came from the previous text, so I was just retaining it. I
have no personal opinion.

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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +The Destination Connection ID field from the first Initial packet sent by a
+client is used to determine packet protection keys for Initial packets.  These
+keys change after receiving a Retry packet; see Section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.

Ugh. In that case this text needs to be really sharpened, and perhaps we need a diagram :)

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I agree that we should leave room for the implementor do do more. However, what I am saying is that we already know that port changes (and perhaps lower-64 changes for v6) are likely to be rebinding and so we should tell people that rather than asking them to figure it out for themselves.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight,
-the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
-with one exception. The ApplicationData packet number space (Section 4.1.1
-of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming
-the PTO for ApplicationData prevents a client from retransmitting a 0-RTT
-packet on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to
-decrypt 0-RTT packets, and prevents a server from sending a 1-RTT packet on
-a PTO expiration before it has the keys to process an acknowledgement.
+the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout.

Thank you for the suggestion. Applied in 3e3421b.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -501,9 +501,11 @@ handshake, new data is requested from TLS after providing received data.
 As keys for new encryption levels become available, TLS provides QUIC with those
 keys.  Separately, as keys at a given encryption level become available to TLS,
 TLS indicates to QUIC that reading or writing keys at that encryption level are
-available.  These events are not asynchronous; they always occur immediately
-after TLS is provided with new handshake bytes, or after TLS produces handshake
-bytes.
+available.  While waiting for TLS to provide these keys, an endpoint SHOULD
+buffer the received packets marked as protected by the keys yet to be provided,
+and process them once those keys become available.  If the keys are generated
+asynchronously, an endpoint MAY continue responding to the received packets that
+are processable while waiting for TLS to provide these keys.

Thanks, I agree that that's better. Applied in 16038c1.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -518,14 +518,22 @@ or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always
 set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the
 correct packet number space.
 
+When setting the PTO timer, the ApplicationData packet number space (Section
+4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming
+the PTO for ApplicationData prevents unnecessary transmissions on a PTO
+expiration, such as:
+
+* an endpoint sending probe packets before obtaining the keys to process an
+  acknowledgement,
+
+* a client sending 0-RTT probe packets before confirming that the server is able
+  to decrypt 0-RTT packets, or

Makes sense. Applied in 8af4de0.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -518,14 +518,22 @@ or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always
 set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the
 correct packet number space.
 
+When setting the PTO timer, the ApplicationData packet number space (Section
+4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming
+the PTO for ApplicationData prevents unnecessary transmissions on a PTO
+expiration, such as:
+
+* an endpoint sending probe packets before obtaining the keys to process an
+  acknowledgement,
+
+* a client sending 0-RTT probe packets before confirming that the server is able

Yeah my point in #3874 (comment) was that if the server rejects the 0-RTT, then that rejection acts as an alternative to ACK, and that therefore it might be worth mentioning.

But anyways I've applied MT's suggestion in daf4de0, I think it resolves your concern.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +The Destination Connection ID field from the first Initial packet sent by a
+client is used to determine packet protection keys for Initial packets.  These
+keys change after receiving a Retry packet; see Section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.

This is plenty sharp in my view.

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This ensures the PTO is always set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the correct packet number space. +When setting the PTO timer, the ApplicationData packet number space (Section +4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. PTO is not +armed because issues other than packet loss might prevent an endpoint from +receiving an acknowledgement. A receiver might lack the keys necessary to +process packets, or the sender might lack the keys necessary to process +acknowledgments. This occurs when the client sends 0-RTT packets as the server +might not accept 0-RTT and the client will not have 1-RTT keys for processing +acknowledgments until the handshake completes. This occurs for 1-RTT packets as +either endpoint might not have the ability to read until the handshake is +complete or confirmed. ```suggestion complete. ``` Confirmation tells us that our peer has a completed handshake. This is not a useful state here, because we are talking about a specific endpoint and their ability to read doesn't depend on confirmation. I was questioning whether we should block probing more. That is, until the handshake is confirmed. That has performance implications, because you don't probe for longer, but it does mean that you never probe without being sure that the probe can be answered. I suspect that there is a trade-off here. Waiting for handshake complete is not perfect, but it is close enough that it is good enough. Ideally we could run experiments to tell us when spurious losses due to keys not being available and set a policy based on that. Because that is ultimately what this is: a policy that we use to protect the core recovery algorithm. Maybe that suggests a different answer: we are going to pick a point at which we recommend that probing starts. That will be imperfect and that's OK. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -518,14 +518,20 @@ or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always
 set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the
 correct packet number space.
 
+When setting the PTO timer, the ApplicationData packet number space (Section
+4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. PTO is not
+armed because issues other than packet loss might prevent an endpoint from
+receiving an acknowledgement. A receiver might lack the keys necessary to
+process packets, or the sender might lack the keys necessary to process
+acknowledgments. This occurs when the client sends 0-RTT packets as the server
+might not accept 0-RTT and the client will not have 1-RTT keys for processing
+acknowledgments until the handshake completes. This occurs for 1-RTT packets as
+either endpoint might not have the ability to read until the handshake is
+complete or confirmed.

Thank you for the suggestion. I agree that the reference to handshake confirmation is unnecessary if not incorrect. Removed.

Regarding what should be written down in spec, I tend to agree that this should better be a recommendation rather than a requirement. We need to be clear to state when probes have to be sent in order to avoid deadlock, but anything above that can just be recommended.

That said, I would not mind leaving the normative text as they are now, so that we could call the changes to the recovery draft editorial. MUSTs in the recovery drafts are often recommendations, after all.

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That might help contextualize and help contain the spaghetti structure that this section seems to have. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3879 -- Commit Summary -- * Group 0-RTT sections -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (51) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3879.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3879.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3879 ----==_mimepart_5f06a62dee4ea_3bff3fe8ac4cd96487150 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This adds a short introductory section to the three sections that deal
with 0-RTT. That might help contextualize and help contain the
spaghetti structure that this section seems to have.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3879

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This is, for various reasons, either unnecessary or harmful, so we no longer have that requirement. But there was some residual text that assumed that property. This removes a paragraph citing symmetry directly, and rewords text that assumes return reachability - a property that QUIC no longer provides mechanisms for. Closes #3797. 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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jul 8 22:55:26 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173D53A091C for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 22:55:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JcWbzzjZ0xM0 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 22:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-13.smtp.github.com (out-13.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C891D3A0914 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 22:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-d31a065.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d31a065.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36790261843 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 22:55:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594274123; bh=8yirkOwOZ7shWnn9z6nxC7wG1Dc+5Zbj3FZOBSAiODI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MF5A25Ze3ximElP8u98VxLmazv9PWKJrw+jqwD0IByaT0jN8M7/UBEw5dxOn7f0Z6 cCz2UzH2ACxH4AX+4xI2NADGP7WPqH4fGyZFUDDpm+l8wO2tbgnuNi/v59e8sYGcGY dO963x/bDHe0PdbMm4qAl/MpbYQZ+lK2tz7T8GCc= Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 22:55:22 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] How long is a validated address good for? (#3880) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f06b14ae5006_a6a3fafe54cd9643875f2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 05:55:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f06b14ae5006_a6a3fafe54cd9643875f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are a few cases where we don't have continuous validation of a peer address. A long idle timeout might still be short enough that this isn't a concern. 1. A path migration that returns to a previously-used path might happen over a relatively long period of time. 2. NEW_TOKEN can be good for a considerable time. Right now, the time limit is entirely undefined. That might be the right answer, but maybe we should say that we don't know. If we do think that a time limit makes sense, then we need to pick a value. I wouldn't even dare to suggest a number right now. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3880 ----==_mimepart_5f06b14ae5006_a6a3fafe54cd9643875f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

There are a few cases where we don't have continuous validation of a peer address. A long idle timeout might still be short enough that this isn't a concern.

  1. A path migration that returns to a previously-used path might happen over a relatively long period of time.

  2. NEW_TOKEN can be good for a considerable time.

Right now, the time limit is entirely undefined. That might be the right answer, but maybe we should say that we don't know.

If we do think that a time limit makes sense, then we need to pick a value. I wouldn't even dare to suggest a number right now.

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----==_mimepart_5f06b14ae5006_a6a3fafe54cd9643875f2-- From nobody Wed Jul 8 23:20:55 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483673A0968 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:20:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gDwfg982-m4k for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94BF13A08E4 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.105.50]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34326A1D19 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:20:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594275650; bh=K6gPM9zRhVdbv0EQrCxJgnc/QyLohvUO+iOB48IrLlg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=w4D8ay2tXu54UiJu179BNiNoLwYAUEG45FjgS0hILWrcPbMFRBTMc7XQJEVr5L5E3 2o27dbTA3bdWSYhlKCoKyvsi55X0qWBwkI8Q9wL1JBOfBM5Q0ZOS1TqEOuS+34BioV WhWD5sQ3o89Zv6rUt775PP4r/6GSsUB43b1vQxEY= Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:20:50 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] How long is a validated address good for? (#3880) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f06b742b36ab_35273f95b84cd960440542"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 06:20:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f06b742b36ab_35273f95b84cd960440542 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do not think that we need to recommend a particular value. I might even ask if there is a need to have a time-bound. The reason we have the 3x limit prior to address validation is because it is an DDoS attack vector. Compared to that, it is much harder to use old validated paths as an attack vector. Compared to the difficulty, the benefit that the attacker gains is rather small. For the NEW_TOKEN case, the amplifier is 10x + alpha (assuming that IW is 10 packets), less than a magnitude different from the 3x limit. For the path migration case, the amplifier becomes maybe two magnitudes greater, but the effectiveness of the attack is limited by the idle timeout, as path migration works only when the connection is kept alive. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3880#issuecomment-655926117 ----==_mimepart_5f06b742b36ab_35273f95b84cd960440542 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I do not think that we need to recommend a particular value. I might even ask if there is a need to have a time-bound.

The reason we have the 3x limit prior to address validation is because it is an DDoS attack vector. Compared to that, it is much harder to use old validated paths as an attack vector. Compared to the difficulty, the benefit that the attacker gains is rather small.

For the NEW_TOKEN case, the amplifier is 10x + alpha (assuming that IW is 10 packets), less than a magnitude different from the 3x limit.

For the path migration case, the amplifier becomes maybe two magnitudes greater, but the effectiveness of the attack is limited by the idle timeout, as path migration works only when the connection is kept alive.

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Commit Summary

  • Multiple transitions happen
  • The receiver might close the connection
  • Contextualize remembering of transport parameters
  • Acknowledgments aren't path validation
  • Frames are at least 8 bits long
  • Cite common field definitions
  • Unused is set arbitrarily, and ignored on receipt
  • Contact: the IETF
  • EOFU: PMTU
  • Reword requirements about path validation

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Closes #3878. From nobody Wed Jul 8 23:59:33 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACE63A0772 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:59:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pg7AZbdCKwDZ for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10C133A0746 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C47280132 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:59:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594277969; bh=UVpr7w8GHXGflIeDZRrO4CYh56sMK6nYWDCBIA9a2M0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0K15RJ0UQFMHrwxc9ZXHaMNvcHvaESNQDds5vjsSa9tpDk39UyCYukjX6E1vt18rT 0gMyEUU/TZL4lV0OwDWmlOH/RG5e+4NyeqHaSQkQqK8GDZYvPmSIBTYBaQD3jq6yiS gLY8htdEQbEHV2MHrkwFsdcPSTeEye7vxSUP45SI= Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:59:29 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Prohibit the offering of TLS <1.3 (#3882) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f06c05151868_66793fb9022cd968424510"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 06:59:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f06c05151868_66793fb9022cd968424510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just in case this wasn't blindingly obvious. 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Just in case this wasn't blindingly obvious.

Closes #3878.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3882

Commit Summary

  • Prohibit the offering of TLS <1.3

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Fielding" Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] HTTP/1.x is not a TCP mapping (#3883) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f06c5b6522dc_61c63fc1742cd95c43449e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: royfielding X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 07:22:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f06c5b6522dc_61c63fc1742cd95c43449e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The introduction is oddly narrow about HTTP/1.1 (and h2) being a TCP mapping, even though HTTP/1.x is commonly used on many different transports and session-layers. In fact, it was specifically designed to not be dependent on TCP so that it could be implemented over every network and every security layer. A simple solution would be to delete that as a description, since it is neither accurate nor useful. It's fine to say that HTTP/3 is specific to QUIC. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3883 ----==_mimepart_5f06c5b6522dc_61c63fc1742cd95c43449e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The introduction is oddly narrow about HTTP/1.1 (and h2) being a TCP mapping, even though HTTP/1.x is commonly used on many different transports and session-layers. In fact, it was specifically designed to not be dependent on TCP so that it could be implemented over every network and every security layer.

A simple solution would be to delete that as a description, since it is neither accurate nor useful. It's fine to say that HTTP/3 is specific to QUIC.

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fixes #3883

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  • do not refer to HTTP/1 as a TCP mapping

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@martinthomson Thank you for your help in moving this PR forward.

I'm a bit hesitant to call this PR editorial though, previously endpoints were expected to process TLS handshake messages synchronously, now we have a MAY that allows them to process them in an asynchronous manner (while waiting for TLS to provide new keys).

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4446,9 +4460,10 @@ Initial Packet {
 {: #initial-format title="Initial Packet"}
 
 The Initial packet contains a long header as well as the Length and Packet
-Number fields.  The first byte contains the Reserved and Packet Number Length
-bits.  Between the Source Connection ID and Length fields, there are two
-additional fields specific to the Initial packet.
+Number fields; see {{long-header}}.  The first byte contains the Reserved and

This text needs to be replicated to the 0-RTT and Handshake packet also.

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This partly addresss the case, but it does not yet note the implications of the return path traffic on congestion of the return path. I think this is a useful addition, because it helps alert the reader of the tradeoff ... which can be quite important for half-duplex/shared radio, etc where the spectrum consumed sending an ACK can even outweigh the cost of sending a data packet (because they use different design of PHY). I suggest: "It can improve connection throughput using severely asymmetric links and can also reduce the volume of acknowledgment traffic using return path capacity; see Section 3 of [RFC3449]." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3885 ----==_mimepart_5f06f5abec165_1e643fb854ecd960228721 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I promised to raise an issue relating to this text:
"It can also improve connection throughput on severely asymmetric links; see Section 3 of [RFC3449]."

This partly addresss the case, but it does not yet note the implications of the return path traffic on congestion of the return path. I think this is a useful addition, because it helps alert the reader of the tradeoff ... which can be quite important for half-duplex/shared radio, etc where the spectrum consumed sending an ACK can even outweigh the cost of sending a data packet (because they use different design of PHY).

I suggest:
"It can improve connection throughput using severely asymmetric links and can also reduce the volume of acknowledgment traffic using return path capacity; see Section 3 of [RFC3449]."

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----==_mimepart_5f07023325afe_4a763fdb06acd96c208619-- From nobody Thu Jul 9 07:01:23 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08F03A0B55 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 07:01:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jbl8k3E1eSC9 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 07:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CC283A0B19 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 07:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3AE521EAC for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 07:01:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594303278; bh=C66v78PYk2ZgOiyOczhD+GFveOrR3FVrX9JKaH4gr8w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qypAGiUjo08EDtqqr41Ush/CNA45q06AptP/ztTCMUYfUwc0gqbJYU9TIkoM+MpEt 61jw8CvIRcmwzjFDMeEgO15Zokhz+cfTkUNNx4KnUxjNdZ9TMZ04bEFoAI9y7ROImj kMyj0Vp0USoPcMaLqTWitn+HcS9M5Yd0rDgZxX84= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 07:01:18 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add a section on flow control performance (#3793) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f07232ebbfe6_2f4c3fab754cd96024852e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 14:01:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f07232ebbfe6_2f4c3fab754cd96024852e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett commented on this pull request. > +order of the current BDP will have receive throughput limited by flow control +and not other limiting factors like congestion control. Timely sending of Congestion controllers sometimes do silly things, so I'd simplify this, but add an additional consideration. ```suggestion order of the current BDP will have receive throughput limited by flow control. Lost packets can cause gaps in the receive buffer, delaying the application from consuming data and freeing up flow control window. Timely sending of ``` > +updates to flow control limits can improve performance. However, an excessive +rate of updates can also adversely affect performance. ```suggestion updates to flow control limits can improve performance. An excessive rate of updates sent in their own packet increases network load and can adversely affect performance. Bundling updates with ACK frames provides frequent updates without adding significant load. ``` > @@ -968,6 +968,17 @@ signal before advertising additional credit, since doing so will mean that the peer will be blocked for at least an entire round trip, and potentially for longer if the peer chooses to not send STREAMS_BLOCKED frames. +## Flow Control Performance + +An endpoint that is unable to ensure that a peer has flow control credit on the +order of the current BDP will have receive throughput limited by flow control +and not other limiting factors like congestion control. Timely sending of +updates to flow control limits can improve performance. However, an excessive +rate of updates can also adversely affect performance. + +This document does not specify techniques for tuning flow control performance I don't think this paragraph is necessary, but that's me. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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It's very deliberate that Invariants does not normatively depend on Transport. Invariants needs to stand alone, as a description of what versionless QUIC means. Arguably, Transport could normatively depend on Invariants, but it chooses instead to restate the things it depends on and make the reference informative.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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 ### TLS Interface Summary
 
 {{exchange-summary}} summarizes the exchange between QUIC and TLS for both
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+client and server. Solid arrows indicate packets that carry CRYPTO frames;

Technically speaking, 1-RTT packets can carry CRYPTO frames, too.

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In Transport, we say:

Invalid packets without packet protection, such as Initial, Retry, or Version Negotiation, MAY be discarded.

However, in TLS we have a section named "Packet Protection" (Section 5) with subsections describing how to protect Initial (5.2) and Retry (5.8) packets which talk about Initial, at least, as using packet protection. I think it would be clearer to describe the lack of security properties that this limited form of protection provides, rather than say they're not protected at all.

Alternatively, we could rework the language in TLS, but that feels like a bigger terminology change.

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To use MT's analogy, it seems the bus's traffic information is stale and it isn't aware of a road accident ahead. Marking this as design so that the group can consider the information and decide an outcome.

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Let's run this through the design issue process to be sure.

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----==_mimepart_5f072f819294a_462b3ffb7f8cd95c27700-- From nobody Thu Jul 9 07:56:09 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1610A3A0C86 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 07:56:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sIpklBwG9d_j for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 07:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E75843A0C16 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 07:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BDA6A1193 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 07:56:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594306564; bh=1HEtslr06fLx5il5b8w4IWyaxf6Hywyqoj9d9yAwPNA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=UeESrgmG5LMO1J57NPx8PBpvmUd7YuHCLxUpdCNLm6VkPFLIXlqltIMxfx0dDMcld mSxU1nV797DZqV7qLhF+JwqVboHRSs8cd/6S49wHJgvmcY013k3eNa34HRJoDFggwr TMTXKALJlTN946uLamZoAqED1HzKmA2a5FaPxOF8= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 07:56:04 -0700 From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider a specific error when switching to an HTTP/3 connection that does not support an extension (#3833) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0730043430_30533f9041ccd95c423095"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 14:56:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0730043430_30533f9041ccd95c423095 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As an individual, I believe that choosing to do address the issue would require a design change. However, I'm not labelling as such until there is any indication from the group that they believe this needs to be addressed in QUICv1. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3833#issuecomment-656177091 ----==_mimepart_5f0730043430_30533f9041ccd95c423095 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As an individual, I believe that choosing to do address the issue would require a design change.

However, I'm not labelling as such until there is any indication from the group that they believe this needs to be addressed in QUICv1.

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@chris-wood pushed 7 commits.

  • ed9bbfc Update AEAD limits
  • 2755bca Attempt to address some of the other questions
  • ed028b2 Fix error in adding v to confidentiality calculation
  • 5ef5f06 Fix heading levels
  • 2e1f529 Restore factor of 2
  • 6f58815 Update draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
  • 9dd23dc Merge pull request #2 from quicwg/aead-limits2

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Note that I found at least one middlebox with a default timeout of 30s; that was not a home gateway included in this study. Closes #3799. Commit: c2b663f7a9de24b7a74390e5a528aa65d9e5e8ff https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c2b663f7a9de24b7a74390e5a528aa65d9e5e8ff Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clear vestiges of path validation symmetry In early versions of path validation, there was a requirement that PATH_CHALLENGE be sent on the same path. This is, for various reasons, either unnecessary or harmful, so we no longer have that requirement. But there was some residual text that assumed that property. This removes a paragraph citing symmetry directly, and rewords text that assumes return reachability - a property that QUIC no longer provides mechanisms for. Closes #3797. Commit: 8967ffac97b7974bbfc7cd47c3667c2770835f4a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8967ffac97b7974bbfc7cd47c3667c2770835f4a Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3806 from quicwg/30s Cite a source for the 30s timeout Commit: fb702babd8275b765ccd7d3422918a273836f485 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fb702babd8275b765ccd7d3422918a273836f485 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Per RFC 5116 Commit: 5e3723af74412f87907ec50025bd9c7510e8ad27 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5e3723af74412f87907ec50025bd9c7510e8ad27 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3812 from quicwg/transport/aead A in AEAD, per RFC 5116 Commit: ace667763a2dae8884aa13042aab2c55fd74e791 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ace667763a2dae8884aa13042aab2c55fd74e791 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- comman mistake Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop Commit: 49b2e4864a3862ef21dd3702159d2bbdd9765cb4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49b2e4864a3862ef21dd3702159d2bbdd9765cb4 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fix line length Commit: 2315e5efbc06c3b8ae2e9dc265651831aaef6291 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2315e5efbc06c3b8ae2e9dc265651831aaef6291 Author: Jonathan Hoyland Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fix nit Commit: ae8cb066a1763c37ed6f5f05fa8bf71599330c55 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ae8cb066a1763c37ed6f5f05fa8bf71599330c55 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-07 (Tue, 07 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3830 from jhoyla/jhoyla-nits Fix grammar nit Commit: 61dabb193a53311b28aaa2ada21ecdc6e2260cf0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/61dabb193a53311b28aaa2ada21ecdc6e2260cf0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- VN isn't acknowledged, implicitly or otherwise This is a left-over from removing version negotiation from the draft. Closes #3854. Commit: 148f8afbc1fce748a42d2753836a298a74b33ff1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/148f8afbc1fce748a42d2753836a298a74b33ff1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- A couple of random circumlocations Closes #3846. Commit: 9e79a7769529bab3e459d74564b004d9cbdc2d3c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9e79a7769529bab3e459d74564b004d9cbdc2d3c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- If a packet matches a connection, process it Not saying explicitly that was a small oversight. Closes #3837. Commit: 0a0126edef3d7d4d8f76e8264d7cc1c19e9f1b0e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0a0126edef3d7d4d8f76e8264d7cc1c19e9f1b0e Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3857 from quicwg/vn-implicit-ack VN isn't acknowledged, implicitly or otherwise Commit: fda048dcc0ac7135456e19d36ce9dbbe204c4c2e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fda048dcc0ac7135456e19d36ce9dbbe204c4c2e Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3863 from quicwg/randomlocution A couple of random circumlocations Commit: eb8b076ed58cb17dac824d7ac19e1824de7b6092 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/eb8b076ed58cb17dac824d7ac19e1824de7b6092 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3867 from quicwg/packets-for-connection If a packet matches a connection, process it Commit: 1266955162fbc9ed9b458755854a4df4407b02bc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1266955162fbc9ed9b458755854a4df4407b02bc Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3809 from quicwg/path-response-path Clear vestiges of path validation symmetry Commit: c0d8a453b56a7f51ea56beae22d12073dd227b9b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c0d8a453b56a7f51ea56beae22d12073dd227b9b Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Incorporating feedback Commit: af4f6bc3959128e04f28ae07695f58f62caaaabc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/af4f6bc3959128e04f28ae07695f58f62caaaabc Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into transport/mbishop_wglc Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/4a967aa11e09...af4f6bc39591 From nobody Thu Jul 9 08:03:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9643A0C6C for ; 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A stream ID that is used out of order results in all streams of that type with lower-numbered stream IDs also being opened. -The first bidirectional stream opened by the client has a stream ID of 0. I've adjusted the preceding paragraph to note that each stream space begins at the minimum value and increases monotonically, since that's effectively what we're trying to communicate here. > @@ -1165,9 +1155,9 @@ discarded if they indicate a different protocol version than that of the connection, or if the removal of packet protection is unsuccessful once the expected keys are available. -Invalid packets without packet protection, such as Initial, Retry, or Version -Negotiation, MAY be discarded. An endpoint MUST generate a connection error if -it commits changes to state before discovering an error. +Invalid packets without effective confidentiality protection, such as Initial, Reverted and opened #3887. > @@ -2496,9 +2478,8 @@ ensure connection stability. This section describes the protocol for migrating a connection to a preferred server address. Migrating a connection to a new server address mid-connection is left for future -work. If a client receives packets from a new server address not indicated by -the preferred_address transport parameter, the client SHOULD discard these -packets. +work. If a client receives packets from a new server address when the client has +not initiated a migration, the client SHOULD discard these packets. Tightened scope a bit. > To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint for only the first ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever occurs first. Other methods of probing paths for ECN support are possible, as are different -marking strategies. Implementations MAY use other methods defined in RFCs; see -{{?RFC8311}}. Implementations that use the ECT(1) codepoint need to perform ECN -validation using ECT(1) counts. +marking strategies. Implementations MAY use other methods; see {{?RFC8311}}. Okay; reverted. > @@ -4008,8 +3992,8 @@ off-path injection as specified in {{!RFC8201}} and Section 5.2 of {{!RFC8085}}. This validation SHOULD use the quoted packet supplied in the payload of an ICMP message to associate the message with a corresponding transport connection (see Section 4.6.1 of {{!DPLPMTUD}}). ICMP message validation MUST include matching -IP addresses and UDP ports {{!RFC8085}} and, when possible, connection IDs to an -active QUIC session. The endpoint SHOULD ignore all ICMP messages that fail +IP addresses and UDP ports ({{!RFC8085}}) and, when possible, connection IDs to I'm unclear on what makes them different. I've been using the distinction that where the reference is explicitly part of the sentence ("defined in {{ref}}") it doesn't need parentheses, but when it's just dropping a reference mid-sentence ("UDP {{ref}} tells us that") then it is parenthetical. But yes, we should decide on something uniform and reconcile. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r452261627 ----==_mimepart_5f0731cd3dccc_60683ffc518cd95c2719b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -357,7 +357,6 @@ Within each type, streams are created with numerically increasing stream IDs.  A
 stream ID that is used out of order results in all streams of that type with
 lower-numbered stream IDs also being opened.
 
-The first bidirectional stream opened by the client has a stream ID of 0.

I've adjusted the preceding paragraph to note that each stream space begins at the minimum value and increases monotonically, since that's effectively what we're trying to communicate here.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1165,9 +1155,9 @@ discarded if they indicate a different protocol version than that of the
 connection, or if the removal of packet protection is unsuccessful once the
 expected keys are available.
 
-Invalid packets without packet protection, such as Initial, Retry, or Version
-Negotiation, MAY be discarded.  An endpoint MUST generate a connection error if
-it commits changes to state before discovering an error.
+Invalid packets without effective confidentiality protection, such as Initial,

Reverted and opened #3887.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2496,9 +2478,8 @@ ensure connection stability. This section describes the protocol for migrating a
 connection to a preferred server address.
 
 Migrating a connection to a new server address mid-connection is left for future
-work. If a client receives packets from a new server address not indicated by
-the preferred_address transport parameter, the client SHOULD discard these
-packets.
+work. If a client receives packets from a new server address when the client has
+not initiated a migration, the client SHOULD discard these packets.

Tightened scope a bit.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 To reduce the chances of misinterpreting congestive loss as packets dropped by a
 faulty network element, an endpoint could set the ECT(0) codepoint for only the
 first ten outgoing packets on a path, or for a period of three RTTs, whichever
 occurs first.
 
 Other methods of probing paths for ECN support are possible, as are different
-marking strategies. Implementations MAY use other methods defined in RFCs; see
-{{?RFC8311}}. Implementations that use the ECT(1) codepoint need to perform ECN
-validation using ECT(1) counts.
+marking strategies. Implementations MAY use other methods; see {{?RFC8311}}.

Okay; reverted.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4008,8 +3992,8 @@ off-path injection as specified in {{!RFC8201}} and Section 5.2 of {{!RFC8085}}.
 This validation SHOULD use the quoted packet supplied in the payload of an ICMP
 message to associate the message with a corresponding transport connection (see
 Section 4.6.1 of {{!DPLPMTUD}}).  ICMP message validation MUST include matching
-IP addresses and UDP ports {{!RFC8085}} and, when possible, connection IDs to an
-active QUIC session.  The endpoint SHOULD ignore all ICMP messages that fail
+IP addresses and UDP ports ({{!RFC8085}}) and, when possible, connection IDs to

I'm unclear on what makes them different. I've been using the distinction that where the reference is explicitly part of the sentence ("defined in {{ref}}") it doesn't need parentheses, but when it's just dropping a reference mid-sentence ("UDP {{ref}} tells us that") then it is parenthetical. But yes, we should decide on something uniform and reconcile.

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----==_mimepart_5f07324f28509_64a83f99dfacd95c37104c-- From nobody Thu Jul 9 08:45:49 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF813A0C82 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:45:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p0OoEsuBywwq for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5C893A0C07 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.61]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4F7A0027 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:45:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594309545; bh=3xF+izdBwT/zdp8sTLwhj3yGKZcebaVhbl95fA+2H2E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dAjXprBIUjoaWO3wONIiGLlZRlpeiFrcZytZDsa9RQ1Goazm+L1nM7fO27Yke9VAP lB9cAAE+AyW+iNZ9PcJUMRe0sq82hExmVhr0tl4RELHEiJxxkOtqW5ADFUEN2OYpzK OIrotj0fCZ8If/HIBfVPjEKOOEySNXovxrvyqu38= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 08:45:45 -0700 From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't Stateless Reset probes from IPs you wouldn't talk to (#3832) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f073ba9cdbeb_4b853fbb026cd96c11127"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 15:45:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f073ba9cdbeb_4b853fbb026cd96c11127 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson > Why would you send a stateless reset when you are pretending that the route doesn't work? (Sorry, this just seems like self-inflicted harm.) So stateless reset is a wrong mechanism, but you seem to be asking why refuse to serve traffic to a set of CIDRs if they seem to be reachable. The answer could be (a) contractual/legal reasons, (b) performance reasons (you know it will be poor). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3832#issuecomment-656203693 ----==_mimepart_5f073ba9cdbeb_4b853fbb026cd96c11127 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Why would you send a stateless reset when you are pretending that the route doesn't work? (Sorry, this just seems like self-inflicted harm.)

So stateless reset is a wrong mechanism, but you seem to be asking why refuse to serve traffic to a set of CIDRs if they seem to be reachable. The answer could be (a) contractual/legal reasons, (b) performance reasons (you know it will be poor).

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----==_mimepart_5f073ba9cdbeb_4b853fbb026cd96c11127-- From nobody Thu Jul 9 08:52:31 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB163A0D09 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:52:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JG-CnOvc6TjC for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0BBF3A0D06 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.64]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A434452084B for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:52:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594309947; bh=2rhR4w9nmGEUvD2/Cqz1Eat/+p/ejNs9Y9OPLol6qs8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=H88EM2/HcIG1oMzjc+v/Jz33y8zAZRXHWSGNQWz2NgEJ7Bjc0Pz+TOh0BIf6rLPm2 Uzky9tNMXnD00v/D+ffi9IPmXnzWNrUUzyHvLK0ogBpho8N+LoNAqeEQqSNC61+1l3 bcRfBbNLwLZwpxWK8sSROxPlOLC/WUYwSzxul85M= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 08:52:27 -0700 From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't Stateless Reset probes from IPs you wouldn't talk to (#3832) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f073d3b9184c_55f13fd6b8acd96456748"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 15:52:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f073d3b9184c_55f13fd6b8acd96456748 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the normative language is that _a valid Stateless Reset MUST NOT be sent, while a connection with that CID could still be active_. This covers both far-away-server Stateless Reset Oracle text quoted by @martinthomson and the same-server Stateless Reset Oracle mentioned by @MikeBishop here. I am happy to provide a PR for this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3832#issuecomment-656207028 ----==_mimepart_5f073d3b9184c_55f13fd6b8acd96456748 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think the normative language is that a valid Stateless Reset MUST NOT be sent, while a connection with that CID could still be active. This covers both far-away-server Stateless Reset Oracle text quoted by @martinthomson and the same-server Stateless Reset Oracle mentioned by @MikeBishop here. I am happy to provide a PR for this.

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----==_mimepart_5f0748cce0d60_425f3f898fecd968130861-- From nobody Thu Jul 9 09:48:15 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68363A0D9C for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 09:48:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zser8A3uLDjC for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 09:48:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7323E3A0D9A for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 09:48:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.110.15]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF096A1DC0 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 09:48:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594313290; bh=fa2AemomV9+ViHG6PidmXtCIWhqM30yM0ZTCN3TeYbI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nWpaDrQH4kxnFhHxEa1SK/fYSs21aDOrv32tniFnek6wj5anLdHG3sqXt0oEEFFZI PWM2/ZhaFqUL4bOfsr3p8DlHaKUhnKuGAg+yBW92g3x/70BPiFGgfHaCsdUbsie1sw SwUz6iZ+jnagdSTJUwz83liLgpKt6qHCtX8v+Yuo= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 09:48:10 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Off-path and on-path (S 9.3.2) (#3841) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f074a4a6e2e2_55da3fdb736cd96c1385be"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 16:48:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f074a4a6e2e2_55da3fdb736cd96c1385be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think you're right that the text is confusing, if not quite incorrect. An on-path attacker can rewrite a source address, causing an apparent migration, but can't cause path validation to succeed with that source address unless it is actually on-path from both endpoints to the spoofed addresses as well. An off-path attacker which can race packets successfully can cause migration with successful path validation to a path which includes it, becoming a limited on-path attacker. This also feels slightly duplicative of 21.12.3; it might be worth condensing some text between these sections. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3841#issuecomment-656235932 ----==_mimepart_5f074a4a6e2e2_55da3fdb736cd96c1385be Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think you're right that the text is confusing, if not quite incorrect.

An on-path attacker can rewrite a source address, causing an apparent migration, but can't cause path validation to succeed with that source address unless it is actually on-path from both endpoints to the spoofed addresses as well. An off-path attacker which can race packets successfully can cause migration with successful path validation to a path which includes it, becoming a limited on-path attacker.

This also feels slightly duplicative of 21.12.3; it might be worth condensing some text between these sections.

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----==_mimepart_5f074a4a6e2e2_55da3fdb736cd96c1385be-- From nobody Thu Jul 9 09:55:10 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E203A0D04 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 09:55:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06KO9NYXsVox for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 09:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C79F43A0D00 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 09:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.61]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D586A1D25 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 09:55:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594313707; bh=z6vZg2h2jtT8DXh43yVfn2VoiaDT8u1FijFgmdKCAfE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=iQTiUY3BomboEsEZz5CtIAxgD+qns+q5wl0kmBOPLB6xwVPBkRim69QTcdhhCyxDO Q/NVETs1stpSqTFkYvJfqm6h6icjQ4d3u2ZNTAPPHwuK+zi9pRSpXzUnbP/Y0juag+ A9g6Cz2kE6M9ef3h5eMiD/qWgvrq+dR/OeZ9w69w= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 09:55:07 -0700 From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] disable_active_migration with SPA (#3765) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f074beb15c16_5ab63f8b81acd964145451"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 16:55:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f074beb15c16_5ab63f8b81acd964145451 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think we actually can **almost** support the use cases I presented without a change, actually. A server that does not desire a client to actively migrate can just avoid sending NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames. Since migration to the SPA requires a change in CID, and a CID sent in preferred_address is the only additional CID available, that CID will be used up during SPA migration and no additional active migrations will be possible. This **almost** solves the problem, because the client can combine active migration with SPA migration. If we prohibit such active migration at the same time with SPA migration, if disable_active_migration TP is present (and, possibly, no NEW_CONNECTION_IDs have been received), it would solve the problem completely. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3765#issuecomment-656239210 ----==_mimepart_5f074beb15c16_5ab63f8b81acd964145451 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think we actually can almost support the use cases I presented without a change, actually.

A server that does not desire a client to actively migrate can just avoid sending NEW_CONNECTION_ID frames. Since migration to the SPA requires a change in CID, and a CID sent in preferred_address is the only additional CID available, that CID will be used up during SPA migration and no additional active migrations will be possible.

This almost solves the problem, because the client can combine active migration with SPA migration. If we prohibit such active migration at the same time with SPA migration, if disable_active_migration TP is present (and, possibly, no NEW_CONNECTION_IDs have been received), it would solve the problem completely.

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----==_mimepart_5f074beb15c16_5ab63f8b81acd964145451-- From nobody Thu Jul 9 09:55:36 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232D93A0D06 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 09:55:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tA-hvWJnbQbV for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 09:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5F383A0D00 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 09:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.20]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F0052018C for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 09:55:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594313733; bh=mtkCQQJAHtl+Q556hZCjoIFUoywhakR5aDDhLFXwFeI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=uRylj7WSvBnV9SdRuPMaRpSrxXYk67E5OWaA1pFmpTaRCzq8pRIwnzImomn75FwCS OZnnV9FkBqHwILYGFDpeNBZMkNElIyPOdwR+tLkFuBPq/yfNi7fKMlKjuxo9gAIVBh zJm8Xi5+j2B+ehj4CQrlA0yz41aOy9hF+Qo27gGw= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 09:55:32 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Which DCID used to determine packet protection keys (#3840) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f074c04eb341_4b703f89542cd964267653"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 16:55:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f074c04eb341_4b703f89542cd964267653 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Depends why it changed. Retry starts a new connection attempt, with a new DCID, and new Initial keys. But the Initial keys don't change when the server's Initial provides a new SCID. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3840#issuecomment-656239399 ----==_mimepart_5f074c04eb341_4b703f89542cd964267653 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Depends why it changed. Retry starts a new connection attempt, with a new DCID, and new Initial keys. But the Initial keys don't change when the server's Initial provides a new SCID.

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----==_mimepart_5f074c04eb341_4b703f89542cd964267653-- From nobody Thu Jul 9 10:18:45 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB113A0D4F for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 10:18:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UWsPXz558PGb for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 10:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 466E73A0D47 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 10:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED586604D7 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 10:18:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594315121; bh=ydCS9rWbijk5f1P+ax+FwQJUIggXiwvQfbnAd/VtCLQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=PgpiW2WXYfMoJ49TsBadWXwfeJD0XMbdVoGzeA2uNwZ3X2hZ3Y+1Kc6AAMLFcZpbo NyCQ07ezRmbHM/5K5BfUCZrf/wRNeufJtYyYRm3wCcrkNHuTRsYfpU0QIw+B3CtjYU DPUHGbaZ7xyeq/MCByTrOHmHpxNkw/7WslM4s8Kg= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 10:18:41 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove amplification throttle if the server receives Initial that echoes its high entropy SCID. (#3834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f075171f2a8_33be3fa5944cd9603668f1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 17:18:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f075171f2a8_33be3fa5944cd9603668f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a reason we would want to prohibit PATH_CHALLENGE/PATH_RESPONSE in Initial packets? That seems like a straightforward way to use existing mechanisms, if we want to take this design change. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3834#issuecomment-656250479 ----==_mimepart_5f075171f2a8_33be3fa5944cd9603668f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Is there a reason we would want to prohibit PATH_CHALLENGE/PATH_RESPONSE in Initial packets? That seems like a straightforward way to use existing mechanisms, if we want to take this design change.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3187,8 +3187,9 @@ Coalescing packets in order of increasing encryption levels (Initial, 0-RTT,
 Handshake, 1-RTT; see Section 4.1.4 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) makes it more likely the
 receiver will be able to process all the packets in a single pass. A packet
 with a short header does not include a length, so it can only be the last
-packet included in a UDP datagram. An endpoint SHOULD NOT coalesce multiple
-packets at the same encryption level.
+packet included in a UDP datagram. An endpoint SHOULD include multiple frames in
+a single packet rather than coalesce multiple packets at the same encryption

Something feels awkward about the wording here, but I'm not coming up with anything better off-hand.

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@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +- if 0-RTT data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS
   resumption ticket sent to the client; and
-- if Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
-  client's resumption ticket and enable rejecting Early Data based on that
+- if 0-RTT data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
+  client's resumption ticket and enable rejecting 0-RTT data based on that
   information.

It doesn't help that RFC 8446 uses "0-RTT Data" and "Early Data" almost equal numbers of times. We should have picked one and stuck to it. Ah well -- we can do the same thing RFC 8446 does and put ("Early Data") as a synonym after the first mention of 0-RTT.

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@ekr commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +- if 0-RTT data is supported, embed application-controlled data in the TLS
   resumption ticket sent to the client; and
-- if Early Data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
-  client's resumption ticket and enable rejecting Early Data based on that
+- if 0-RTT data is supported, retrieve application-controlled data from the
+  client's resumption ticket and enable rejecting 0-RTT data based on that
   information.

It doesn't help that RFC 8446 uses "0-RTT Data" and "Early Data" almost equal numbers of times.

Happy to be of service

Ah well -- we can do the same thing RFC 8446 does and put ("Early Data") as a synonym after the first mention of 0-RTT.

That would be fine. I'm really fine with any resolution here that is clear.

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The primary purpose of a connection is to support the exchange of +data by an application protocol. + +Streams ({{streams}}) are the primary means by which an application protocol +exchanges information. Streams are ordered sequences of bytes. Two types of +stream can be created: bidirectional streams allow both endpoints to send data; +unidirectional streams allow a single endpoint to send. Endpoints can create +streams without prior negotiation. A credit-based scheme is used to limit +stream creation and to bound the amount of data that can be sent. + +The QUIC handshake combines negotiation of cryptographic and transport +parameters. The handshake is structured to permit the exchange of application +data as soon as possible. This includes an option for clients to send data +immediately (0-RTT) as possible, which might require prior communication to ```suggestion immediately (0-RTT), which might require prior communication to ``` > +streams without prior negotiation. A credit-based scheme is used to limit +stream creation and to bound the amount of data that can be sent. + +The QUIC handshake combines negotiation of cryptographic and transport +parameters. The handshake is structured to permit the exchange of application +data as soon as possible. This includes an option for clients to send data +immediately (0-RTT) as possible, which might require prior communication to +enable. + +QUIC connections are not strictly bound to a single network path. Connection +migration uses connection identifiers to allow connections to transfer to a new +network path. + +Frames are used in QUIC to communicate between endpoints. Multiple frames are +assembled into packets. QUIC authenticates all packets and encrypts as much as +is practical to avoid incurring a dependency on middleboxes. 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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5f075e3ed0138_4cc03f93e98cd9641645e6-- From nobody Thu Jul 9 11:14:38 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BE53A0DA5 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 11:14:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ApO_bOOsdjiY for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 11:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 719443A0DA4 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 11:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4890C2822CE for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 11:14:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594318473; bh=UsV+ysleF8TEyhkKIT7Rj9xh0j95beU8K++wkvFdebE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=RV8Eo4BWf2vDfFUB+zFqPY55/sd3zKhl5JxQdosRNvGDpBYCCmydXMVfiwzkDrhKe DmpPUeTGDjk+KLo5matwg06TeKBgFTGX4eIBt5UDMWvdY9li0HB75BfQQ22rnJVsUr aRWgdCaquP61s420oWgQemARX5UmrtaPZRHGOr1c= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 11:14:33 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] change error to PROTOCOL_VIOLATION when receiving an invalid RCID frame (#3861) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f075e8939bc8_474f3fa34fccd96866069"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 18:14:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f075e8939bc8_474f3fa34fccd96866069 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This seems like another instance of deciding the scope of "context." Is the packet that the frame arrived in part of the connection context, or is it part of looking at the bytes? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3861#issuecomment-656276323 ----==_mimepart_5f075e8939bc8_474f3fa34fccd96866069 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This seems like another instance of deciding the scope of "context." Is the packet that the frame arrived in part of the connection context, or is it part of looking at the bytes?

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----==_mimepart_5f075e8939bc8_474f3fa34fccd96866069-- From nobody Thu Jul 9 11:25:32 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF743A0E24 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 11:25:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LzruYb1qRac2 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 11:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D40AF3A0E23 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 11:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2e54e43.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2e54e43.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.27]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357798C1A2C for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 11:25:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594319128; bh=QW7TTZzYOiIS/Yl2Xcbnx75x3kU51Xh83B/rWVEITsw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=g89TEKcr85qR5Z/1E0gumLWloY/YMSZPGIrXcqfrpeXxM6qnT8mrvJJdVSAmyjUYp +XECUTzQ+h7aDi2WSmtQAtJ2ovxAdC/kxsZUYwpAS3957tIJLe+DqWC/3y1ZCDpO1M E0gOjDT4MirVs8+Vh2M8WWSbdCyZKoeBrfj+2vDc= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 11:25:28 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Are 13.2.3 and 13.2.4 normative or not? (#3852) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f07611826ffb_25d73f98b92cd968243418"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 18:25:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f07611826ffb_25d73f98b92cd968243418 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The specific MUSTs aren't really about the ACK algorithm per se, but about state endpoints will have to maintain for other reasons that are typically folded into your loss recovery code. - If an implementation is unable to do duplicate detection for a packet number range, it MUST fail toward rejecting all packets, not toward accepting potential duplicates. - An implementation must track the greatest packet number ever received, for use in recovering future packet numbers. In fact, the first requirement is discussed in 12.3 and could probably be dropped here. The second isn't actually called out (MUST) in 17.1, but could easily be moved there. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3852#issuecomment-656281329 ----==_mimepart_5f07611826ffb_25d73f98b92cd968243418 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The specific MUSTs aren't really about the ACK algorithm per se, but about state endpoints will have to maintain for other reasons that are typically folded into your loss recovery code.

  • If an implementation is unable to do duplicate detection for a packet number range, it MUST fail toward rejecting all packets, not toward accepting potential duplicates.
  • An implementation must track the greatest packet number ever received, for use in recovering future packet numbers.

In fact, the first requirement is discussed in 12.3 and could probably be dropped here. The second isn't actually called out (MUST) in 17.1, but could easily be moved there.

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Given that closing/draining states only occur after immediate close, it might make more sense to move 10.1 to be 10.[3->2].2

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Actually, poking at it a bit, that works -- but a lot of the content in current-10.1 duplicates content in current-10.3. Rather than merely moving the text to be a sub-section, we should probably try to condense it a bit; either move all the close/drain requirements into the new subsection, or fold the two sections together.

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

I don't see that forcing verification buys us anything. Given that intermediaries can freely remix the packet/datagram boundaries, the only thing we could do for a violation is ignore the packet. If you don't ignore the packet, then it will just get rejected as invalid anyway.

The failure mode might be having valid packets for two different connections in the same datagram, and the server processes both for their respective connections. If they're two valid packets, that's... potentially not harmful, I suppose?

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This was going to be a suggestion in a review, but it's already merged.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jul 9 12:30:40 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7033A0E47 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:30:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rt9ogBGTfMcs for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDAFC3A0E44 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.108.24]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0509F520A96 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:30:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594323037; bh=WHa+gCUAskNBbJ6iU4wOtgl6FYa8l18/DTnEYxGbLdM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=yeqN8cNXfmcfq6fKX1dfSQYErWIUrcf0wEiO3Y/zJ2qY1GmZ7Wlm/LoAWk0UHhJPA QJIwcfjhiL4zXuSFe0h4xk9LopYzz08+QtvT+IFpcGMbosGtkT6W9PhN6lGiDLl4+U DAMru1FvFiWuOVmUt2Hvj4mHzhhWGnyqxUWTHL20= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 12:30:36 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MUST NOT bundle, etc. (#3853) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f07705ce9b64_64f73fa1d36cd96431461"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 19:30:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f07705ce9b64_64f73fa1d36cd96431461 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also touched this text in #3805; there was previously an "all" that dramatically changes the meaning of the restriction that got dropped somewhere, so I put it back. > A receiver MUST NOT send an ack-eliciting frame in **all** packets that would otherwise be non-ack-eliciting, to avoid an infinite feedback loop of acknowledgements. The point is that it's okay to toss a PING in to your ACK-only packets once in a while so you can clear out old ACK ranges, but you shouldn't do that every time you send an ACK. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3853#issuecomment-656310128 ----==_mimepart_5f07705ce9b64_64f73fa1d36cd96431461 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I also touched this text in #3805; there was previously an "all" that dramatically changes the meaning of the restriction that got dropped somewhere, so I put it back.

A receiver MUST NOT send an ack-eliciting frame in all packets that would otherwise be non-ack-eliciting, to avoid an infinite feedback loop of acknowledgements.

The point is that it's okay to toss a PING in to your ACK-only packets once in a while so you can clear out old ACK ranges, but you shouldn't do that every time you send an ACK.

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Fielding Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- do not refer to HTTP/1 as a TCP mapping (#3884) * do not refer to HTTP/1 as a TCP mapping * Rewrap Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop From nobody Thu Jul 9 12:53:29 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77C03A00AD for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:53:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KNzcPurQL6cm for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD12C3A003E for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2e54e43.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2e54e43.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.27]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A9828209E for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:53:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594324406; bh=Es3klx11fX/5L7hZEyKWPtAxa9rQzRouqZZwB/kdM2E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=N1hdKj7RohdV/f0bLvXHJkZr9pg7WhuKYvmCo0K20i5TU+hyKmNksicpZdX6veSMy l+22xHDuqlReZvR283mWybrA8F2IChfR4i7rh5zmZkspJMQk9r2aXGahb9vz2EAERA g8pOLAb9Revy/kPfOu1Dk27CD8r/R+ohnLTn74MU= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 12:53:26 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] do not refer to HTTP/1 as a TCP mapping (#3884) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0775b6b703d_7f8c3f9315acd964168461"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 19:53:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0775b6b703d_7f8c3f9315acd964168461 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #3884 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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----==_mimepart_5f0775fad3cbf_74573fd32dccd964133523-- From nobody Thu Jul 9 13:07:59 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BB43A05A4 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:07:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SlboR8bja8Yr for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4EB13A059F for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-fb56993.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-fb56993.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.31]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE84B6E1136 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:07:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594325274; bh=oEd/Qw0Uyy6EaEvkbfEZhlvSIBZ3Jm6zLqv1BL+dyQU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SogZL/F63TLT7yNNIO4Gc52Ye4bcOFWTANitLfPhWMaKyEi5zaJedIgUZoFDpm4aS YaeAcKI1LnrUacGF197i/Xa7amzZYLqN1xAjIDcJc+zEMLXHqsToGvw6PZtFP4ZHPO LRajymTypzYaNkJLdU8eNMcknuwgGGjoqs1590zw= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 13:07:54 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider a specific error when switching to an HTTP/3 connection that does not support an extension (#3833) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f07791aced57_5a223ff029ecd96c26969"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 20:07:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f07791aced57_5a223ff029ecd96c26969 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This basically boils down to discovery that the indicated alternative is not, in fact, equivalent in some way that the client cares about. That might be different extensions, different security parameters, even location in a different political jurisdiction. (If you send me an alternative that turns out to be in China or Russia, I might not opt to use that one.) I'm sure there are other ways for an alternative to be unacceptable that we haven't thought of. I'm not sure it's profitable to go specify distinct error codes for them. Clients just bounce back to origin if it finds the alternative unacceptable. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3833#issuecomment-656325857 ----==_mimepart_5f07791aced57_5a223ff029ecd96c26969 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This basically boils down to discovery that the indicated alternative is not, in fact, equivalent in some way that the client cares about. That might be different extensions, different security parameters, even location in a different political jurisdiction. (If you send me an alternative that turns out to be in China or Russia, I might not opt to use that one.) I'm sure there are other ways for an alternative to be unacceptable that we haven't thought of.

I'm not sure it's profitable to go specify distinct error codes for them. Clients just bounce back to origin if it finds the alternative unacceptable.

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----==_mimepart_5f07791aced57_5a223ff029ecd96c26969-- From nobody Thu Jul 9 13:19:39 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B193A07E5 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:19:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9gU_irbhplxS for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5C1F3A07C2 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.110.15]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E171FE02BF for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:19:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594325975; bh=mrHYOfzD/qvrQnj3s5H4AwAOgfytcx6c/0uippZXLRU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=uu/7p0+O9dJ4oEXIpTxYzLiCJQHbMDshbmSL0gDngrHsp9NuBkLfXA86U99AqT1oY PX3+/yJDlumpOAZG7Y6/7d6JeAqT+/C9PiDwxoIJgrhLz8+dG8Nbh3kAveap0h4p0J p6EQyJkkSC/AwL/ZMH6xhzYFukJb+PwZETMliAlI= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 13:19:35 -0700 From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Consider a specific error when switching to an HTTP/3 connection that does not support an extension (#3833) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f077bd7d329f_24053fc8612cd96830844a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 20:19:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f077bd7d329f_24053fc8612cd96830844a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, my first primary motivation was to catch misconfigurations or synchronisation issues across the same fleet (maybe even cross-CDN or cross-cloud). The h2->h3 path is only one manifestation. And as you rightly describe, this issue has a slew of broader considerations. For that reason, I think this needs to actually be its own draft which some other group of people can worry about. Furthermore, there is fundamentally nothing in the H3 protocol that makes the situation any worse than it than it already is. Let's just close this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3833#issuecomment-656331410 ----==_mimepart_5f077bd7d329f_24053fc8612cd96830844a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yeah, my first primary motivation was to catch misconfigurations or synchronisation issues across the same fleet (maybe even cross-CDN or cross-cloud).

The h2->h3 path is only one manifestation. And as you rightly describe, this issue has a slew of broader considerations. For that reason, I think this needs to actually be its own draft which some other group of people can worry about.

Furthermore, there is fundamentally nothing in the H3 protocol that makes the situation any worse than it than it already is.

Let's just close this.

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I'd like to better understand the recovery change you're making and it's motivation. > When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight, -the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout, -with one exception. The ApplicationData packet number space (Section 4.1.1 -of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming -the PTO for ApplicationData prevents a client from retransmitting a 0-RTT -packet on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to -decrypt 0-RTT packets, and prevents a server from sending a 1-RTT packet on -a PTO expiration before it has the keys to process an acknowledgement. +the timer MUST be set to the earlier value of the Initial and Handshake packet +number spaces. I think this is a behavior change and I don't think it's always correct, since it causes the timer to never be armed for ApplicationData anytime anything in Handshake is in flight. There are cases the Handshake keys have been dropped by the server and the Handshake data will never be acknowledged. > @@ -518,14 +518,20 @@ or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the correct packet number space. +When setting the PTO timer, the ApplicationData packet number space (Section Can you clarify what the goal of changing this section is? I feel it was clearer before, but I suspect there's something you're trying to improve. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3874#pullrequestreview-446015448 ----==_mimepart_5f079db5ab8e1_4da93ff1210cd96811204d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

I'd like to better understand the recovery change you're making and it's motivation.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight,
-the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
-with one exception. The ApplicationData packet number space (Section 4.1.1
-of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming
-the PTO for ApplicationData prevents a client from retransmitting a 0-RTT
-packet on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to
-decrypt 0-RTT packets, and prevents a server from sending a 1-RTT packet on
-a PTO expiration before it has the keys to process an acknowledgement.
+the timer MUST be set to the earlier value of the Initial and Handshake packet
+number spaces.

I think this is a behavior change and I don't think it's always correct, since it causes the timer to never be armed for ApplicationData anytime anything in Handshake is in flight. There are cases the Handshake keys have been dropped by the server and the Handshake data will never be acknowledged.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -518,14 +518,20 @@ or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always
 set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the
 correct packet number space.
 
+When setting the PTO timer, the ApplicationData packet number space (Section

Can you clarify what the goal of changing this section is? I feel it was clearer before, but I suspect there's something you're trying to improve.

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Fixes #3875

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  • No RTT samples, no persistent congestion

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jul 9 16:10:49 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49DB3A0977 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 16:10:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o27WWakjuhE9 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 16:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D48DD3A0976 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 16:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f1f7af9.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f1f7af9.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.111.13]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4866E0C3A for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 16:10:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594336245; bh=sFRjPyauyS8UJu6Sk0uCZ1BHywaGJ6N6hLP8H0X9sok=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=atWs9XgHBMqIlNvynW+E9DmXNVX9iyk6lSY7fXINAnBZYFW+gMFQuR+y2BbTW1KnP Gc4FqjCyQoa4SGljwzPjoK5jwK67rrs2HeVik9Zh+GYjmIDq1Eax/JagUrvaGMvMCu U9KG7s70dj0f5+iN7Jq8x8gUhzuywMmLFzc0qlcE= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 16:10:45 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Persistent congestion threshold is unreliable during the early stages of a connection (#3875) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f07a3f59fcc_66793fbff24cd960110887"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 23:10:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f07a3f59fcc_66793fbff24cd960110887 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think persistent congestion can be enabled until there is an RTT sample, because smoothed_rtt and rttvar don't have measured values. I wrote an editorial PR to that effect, so assuming that's sufficient, this is an editorial issue. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3875#issuecomment-656394099 ----==_mimepart_5f07a3f59fcc_66793fbff24cd960110887 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't think persistent congestion can be enabled until there is an RTT sample, because smoothed_rtt and rttvar don't have measured values.

I wrote an editorial PR to that effect, so assuming that's sufficient, this is an editorial issue.

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I'm not sure if this is correct.

The problem being discussed in #3875 is that PTO could be significantly reduced when obtaining the first RTT sample, and that persistent congestion is declared because that RTT sample would be used.

I think we need to do something along the lies of forbidding declaration of persistent congestion using packets sent before RTT samples were obtained, or until the RTT estimation becomes stable.

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@ianswett Thank you for the PR. As I've stated in the PR review comment, per my understanding, the problem is about applying the first RTT sample to the probes sent before obtaining that RTT sample.

Because the difference between the first RTT sample and initial RTT could be huge, using the first RTT sample to estimate how many probes have been sent based on the initial RTT does not work well.

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However, an excessive +rate of updates can also adversely affect performance. Should we instead say "Sending of packets just to provide flow control updates can increase network load and adversely affect performance. Sending flow control updates along with other frames, such as ACK frames, can reduce the cost of those updates." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3793#discussion_r452558379 ----==_mimepart_5f07b47143722_7d693fc1cd2cd96c304097 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +updates to flow control limits can improve performance. However, an excessive
+rate of updates can also adversely affect performance.

Should we instead say "Sending of packets just to provide flow control updates can increase network load and adversely affect performance. Sending flow control updates along with other frames, such as ACK frames, can reduce the cost of those updates."

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -548,47 +548,50 @@ use.
 ### TLS Interface Summary
 
 {{exchange-summary}} summarizes the exchange between QUIC and TLS for both
-client and server. Each arrow is tagged with the encryption level used for that
-transmission.
+client and server. Solid arrows indicate packets that carry CRYPTO frames;

Yes, well technically this doesn't say that they don't, only that these do. :)

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ekr suggested that we limit the use of "integrity protection" (and I presume "confidentiality protection") to those cases where the protection is real, and not based on fixed keys or trivially-acquired keys. I think that might be the best answer here, even if that takes more effort to get right.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4008,8 +3992,8 @@ off-path injection as specified in {{!RFC8201}} and Section 5.2 of {{!RFC8085}}.
 This validation SHOULD use the quoted packet supplied in the payload of an ICMP
 message to associate the message with a corresponding transport connection (see
 Section 4.6.1 of {{!DPLPMTUD}}).  ICMP message validation MUST include matching
-IP addresses and UDP ports {{!RFC8085}} and, when possible, connection IDs to an
-active QUIC session.  The endpoint SHOULD ignore all ICMP messages that fail
+IP addresses and UDP ports ({{!RFC8085}}) and, when possible, connection IDs to

I think that the prevailing use of external references - those that appear in brackets - is both inline "defined in [REF]" and not as an automatic parenthetical, but an annotation of a noun in cases like "such as UDP [REF]", which you would convert to something like <a href="REF">UDP</a> were this text. That's harder to codify though. In many ways this is a limitation of markdown, but I don't see it as a serious shortcoming, because fixes (such as those in HTML or XML) just transfer the problem to the presentation layer.

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That's a good addition.

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The ApplicationData packet number space (Section 4.1.1 -of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming -the PTO for ApplicationData prevents a client from retransmitting a 0-RTT -packet on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to -decrypt 0-RTT packets, and prevents a server from sending a 1-RTT packet on -a PTO expiration before it has the keys to process an acknowledgement. +the timer MUST be set to the earlier value of the Initial and Handshake packet +number spaces. Regarding if the new approach works, it does, because the server would make sure that all the handshake messages up to ServerFinished would be delivered to the client, and then the client would make sure that ClientFinished would be delivered to the server. At that moment, the server would be allowed to send 1-RTT probes. Regarding if this is a design change rather than editorial, the answer depends on how we interpret the existing text. [Section 6.2.1](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html#section-6.2.1-6) currently states: > When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight, the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout, with one exception. The ApplicationData packet number space (Section 4.1.1 of QUIC-TLS) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. There are two ways to interpret these two sentences, depending on if we consider the MUST in the second sentence to be a sub-condition of the first sentence, or consider the two sentences as listing two distinct requirements. @marten-seemann points out that the latter is what the pseudo-code does, and assuming that is the case, there is no design change. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight,
-the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
-with one exception. The ApplicationData packet number space (Section 4.1.1
-of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming
-the PTO for ApplicationData prevents a client from retransmitting a 0-RTT
-packet on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to
-decrypt 0-RTT packets, and prevents a server from sending a 1-RTT packet on
-a PTO expiration before it has the keys to process an acknowledgement.
+the timer MUST be set to the earlier value of the Initial and Handshake packet
+number spaces.

Regarding if the new approach works, it does, because the server would make sure that all the handshake messages up to ServerFinished would be delivered to the client, and then the client would make sure that ClientFinished would be delivered to the server. At that moment, the server would be allowed to send 1-RTT probes.

Regarding if this is a design change rather than editorial, the answer depends on how we interpret the existing text. Section 6.2.1 currently states:

When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight, the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout, with one exception. The ApplicationData packet number space (Section 4.1.1 of QUIC-TLS) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes.

There are two ways to interpret these two sentences, depending on if we consider the MUST in the second sentence to be a sub-condition of the first sentence, or consider the two sentences as listing two distinct requirements. @marten-seemann points out that the latter is what the pseudo-code does, and assuming that is the case, there is no design change.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -518,14 +518,20 @@ or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always
 set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the
 correct packet number space.
 
+When setting the PTO timer, the ApplicationData packet number space (Section

As pointed out in #3874 (comment), the existing text can be read in two ways, depending on how you interpret "with one exception." This PR rearranges two requirements to different paragraphs to be clear that there is no dependency between the two requirements.

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Thanks Nick. I took it in a slightly different direction, but I think that I captured this.

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Commit: c84501ae6cf7031c29b7d592e05d4d1dd23bf48c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c84501ae6cf7031c29b7d592e05d4d1dd23bf48c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3882 from quicwg/no-tls12 Prohibit the offering of TLS <1.3 Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/72ccf149b20a...c84501ae6cf7 From nobody Thu Jul 9 17:59:51 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE903A0AA7 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:59:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u8g7exD3O_c6 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CF5E3A0A9F for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.112.13]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7530052041C for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:59:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594342788; bh=WkT9PK9WXMz3rfJHTNEvSwZoSP4NCYCI+PQBknxRQA4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tpy515DUt+gnsViAx3bHhYUuy8y/6u9Fv0K8l2GCarNWaoc5BluOwKuN8h4ldcZow OCPMUljCEBY7Thuab959q/t2GBVRdoaRFHqYZDlIJEl3EYMJd4UQyIniRsbViC7ItU OjEpJjjCmu7wWbJ+2xPqf4RrCMnQcY1LvizOG0sQ= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 17:59:48 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Ban offering TLS < 1.3 (#3878) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f07bd84625e9_54a23fef0d6cd96484662"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 00:59:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f07bd84625e9_54a23fef0d6cd96484662 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #3878 via #3882. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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This attempts to explain that. Closes #3836. Commit: 88e5ca8f65e61cae07c4bc029854190fe9124e9c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/88e5ca8f65e61cae07c4bc029854190fe9124e9c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- resulted, I guess Commit: fe42f509cd1c03873bc74ca01ab9d0b60d13c9eb https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fe42f509cd1c03873bc74ca01ab9d0b60d13c9eb Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3869 from quicwg/partial-processing Clearer explanation of caveat on discarding packets Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/c84501ae6cf7...fe42f509cd1c From nobody Thu Jul 9 18:00:58 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B640C3A0AA5 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 18:00:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jul 9 18:03:22 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816AB3A0A9F for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 18:03:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tzdt6BiDUoiy for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 18:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43D133A0AA5 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 18:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB5C6E1206 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 18:03:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594342998; bh=bhSksfUHVOM6hAfZ3JhbPK3ZYka9b1Ciph/c23Mb3YQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=A1R0mVCvS2n68j/b76QZFx5mVquiueHQvv+gPMS1ukwh/saHvUjMWGBLmK6B82aQQ pKy7F1ag+KP/0hla22Uu0SQZzWz9fmU5OrquTNk8HTsPpzitltsI6zvuJet2V6U9vW vGtuYXFfEiwkQJJiWBjc2jhr1SLtAmUMCaCWjdrg= Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 18:03:18 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] No RTT samples, no persistent congestion (#3889) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f07be563bdeb_34493f8657ccd96416903"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 01:03:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f07be563bdeb_34493f8657ccd96416903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So a slight rewording *might* help, but you would have to disqualify losses associated with packets sent prior to getting an RTT estimate, as noted. But then RTT estimates are poor to start with (the first packet to establish a NAT binding can add noticeable delays, for instance). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3889#issuecomment-656424075 ----==_mimepart_5f07be563bdeb_34493f8657ccd96416903 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

So a slight rewording might help, but you would have to disqualify losses associated with packets sent prior to getting an RTT estimate, as noted. But then RTT estimates are poor to start with (the first packet to establish a NAT binding can add noticeable delays, for instance).

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Can we just forbid persistent congestion detection for the Initial and the Handshake PN space? That would be easier to reason about than the RTT estimate you had a while ago, when you sent the first packet.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight,
-the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout,
-with one exception. The ApplicationData packet number space (Section 4.1.1
-of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming
-the PTO for ApplicationData prevents a client from retransmitting a 0-RTT
-packet on a PTO expiration before confirming that the server is able to
-decrypt 0-RTT packets, and prevents a server from sending a 1-RTT packet on
-a PTO expiration before it has the keys to process an acknowledgement.
+the timer MUST be set to the earlier value of the Initial and Handshake packet
+number spaces.

@ianswett When you drop keys, you're also supposed to drop the corresponding packets in that packet number space, so the Handshake packets in your example would not be considered outstanding.

That being said, I have to admit I don't understand why the existing text is ambiguous. @kazuho's change here (the one to the -recovery document), if I understand it correctly, is purely editorial.

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@MikeBishop Even if the packet header is part of the context, that still doesn't help. The RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID frame only carries the sequence number, not the actual connection ID. You have to access connection-level information to detect this error, which makes the FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR a poor choice here.

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@marten-seemann I'm sot sure if that would be sufficient as a fix, because 1-RTT packets are also sent before an RTT sample is obtained (e.g., 0-RTT packets, 0.5-RTT data).

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@marten-seemann I'm sot sure if that would be sufficient as a fix, because packets belonging to ApplicationData PN space are also sent before an RTT sample is obtained (e.g., 0-RTT packets, 0.5-RTT data).

Right, this is what #3831 is about. Maybe we should say that only packets sent after handshake completion should be considered for persistent congestion detection?

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+1 to what @marten-seemann says. In addition this is a "MAY send" error, therefore I do not think we need to be cautious in trying to list all the possible error codes.

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@marten-seemann I agree that using handshake completion (or confirmation) would be better than status quo, though it is still questionable if that's good enough.

IIUC, there are two issues:

  • there is no continuity between initial RTT and real RTT
  • the quality of RTT samples are bad during the early stages of a connection

Using handshake completion (or confirmation) as the signal concentrates on fixing the former, but does not address the second concern. If we are to make a design change, I think it would be beneficial to spend some time looking into addressing both of the issues.

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max_ack_delay is initialized to 0 but not updated anywhere.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +updates to flow control limits can improve performance. However, an excessive
+rate of updates can also adversely affect performance.

SGTM, there's no reason it only needs to be ACK frames.

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----==_mimepart_5f08706b62952_3a093fc4acacd96478542-- From nobody Fri Jul 10 07:01:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A213A0CFF for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 07:01:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rs9CY7u72tGr for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 07:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FA1F3A0CFD for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 07:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.64]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54FE8C1A32 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 07:01:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594389679; bh=NU0kzDVp3WBoSjkjaEIczvpzZII7D02XIuJyafllrfk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hwy1WBAnrxU69vsBh4x9C1GeEiIypbSLHSNYgBZ02T4GcYAy4SQKjIv5Qi+59xXu2 pV+n24HBU2rxK22GZM0GeyUrY8+R1qJPpvIMcrGdeH1KYH7cebHUKvjz72VhOEXu9Q 16khB35ti28wwouKlrfdX8DSQZ4Gddv88HP0xibs= Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 07:01:19 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't Stateless Reset probes from IPs you wouldn't talk to (#3832) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0874af95abd_16ad3fe66d6cd96c150031"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 14:01:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0874af95abd_16ad3fe66d6cd96c150031 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the packet arrives at the right connection, there's no need to send a stateless reset at all. If a server wants to close the connection, it should just send a connection close, which is likely to be smaller and doesn't have any Stateless Reset Oracle issues. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3832#issuecomment-656692261 ----==_mimepart_5f0874af95abd_16ad3fe66d6cd96c150031 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

If the packet arrives at the right connection, there's no need to send a stateless reset at all. If a server wants to close the connection, it should just send a connection close, which is likely to be smaller and doesn't have any Stateless Reset Oracle issues.

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----==_mimepart_5f0874af95abd_16ad3fe66d6cd96c150031-- From nobody Fri Jul 10 07:08:23 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705733A0D61 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 07:08:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mee-KmEE5HtT for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 07:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0ACE3A0CFB for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 07:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-edec459.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-edec459.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.32]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B6C6E101F for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 07:07:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594390074; bh=2+MVRlqrU5gKzvCYP0N/sUVdOZ8boJiexEGENTrEXCQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0czqda3kelHPpcf3JPFVnjC8HZCRSAS/g6NljqYO5KXVVBwp/UbBtdOKVurbqBzFw RGVw34hoFO/3tS2U+J1nCW3zj2J+jdljC20eu0OxZslqU6DNvcwm0mDFllEZ+r09Gn PS0vcOZH/Z66VH5EVUsTVPi95l2jkOprkqxqKGMM= Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 07:07:53 -0700 From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't Stateless Reset probes from IPs you wouldn't talk to (#3832) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f087639e5842_42443f80a7acd96c1487b8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 14:08:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f087639e5842_42443f80a7acd96c1487b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The client could still have its original network attachment intact and could be just probing of it can migrate to the second attachment. Sending a PATH_RESPONCE with CONNECTION_CLOSE will kill the connection instead of telling the client "don't migrate". -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3832#issuecomment-656695408 ----==_mimepart_5f087639e5842_42443f80a7acd96c1487b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The client could still have its original network attachment intact and could be just probing of it can migrate to the second attachment. Sending a PATH_RESPONCE with CONNECTION_CLOSE will kill the connection instead of telling the client "don't migrate".

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Agreed, I had in mind the case when disable migration was also sent.

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This seems like a more correct error, but I also don't have strong opinions about it.

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----==_mimepart_5f08b363877b9_77093f86f52cd95c2808b8-- From nobody Fri Jul 10 11:40:48 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6CC3A0824 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:40:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tZzCiLcIzxvX for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 424463A0823 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7251EE005E for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:40:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594406444; bh=O5GcfMfHVq58bzgQ3LoTMpPnAJV2OPHQ+iA6KzKvCDw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=OJ++yNh3DZ4dW87RcAyQg/pQRK2AbDxeh1kINq0kKWKQ3/NqCkdJ21EV/E63p7Vm4 yFoih3NPOAJC5pSrcjylG3jJydNvSlvGYU4UehmZ5sxAmKOmLLXEnBB/mAvjJNTCY0 8NA/zrz9SFHA5SNTtE3Xwiph54WeRhMIKReBPbu0= Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:40:44 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Are 13.2.3 and 13.2.4 normative or not? (#3852) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f08b62c63689_47b53fc185ecd96c608d8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 18:40:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f08b62c63689_47b53fc185ecd96c608d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think I'm inclined towards reorganizing the text and putting all the 'exemplary' parts into one section(ie: "Limiting ACK Ranges") and moving the normative text either into "Managing ACK Ranges" or elsewhere in the draft. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3852#issuecomment-656825261 ----==_mimepart_5f08b62c63689_47b53fc185ecd96c608d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think I'm inclined towards reorganizing the text and putting all the 'exemplary' parts into one section(ie: "Limiting ACK Ranges") and moving the normative text either into "Managing ACK Ranges" or elsewhere in the draft.

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----==_mimepart_5f08b62c63689_47b53fc185ecd96c608d8-- From nobody Fri Jul 10 11:50:35 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE343A0856 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:50:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jrEkFyxVrvUj for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9000B3A084D for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-5fb2734.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5fb2734.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.19.27]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970FE6E034D for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:50:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594407031; bh=vL3E/jH1EtWh6f+wq7eXII/QpK/7pI/lnrLqcLH+j9o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Uqp4ekm9edCzRRbBwGPW7+AhuxpdlgMunuVBKu4Q5LT2A7+EzXYvSXxdjrEfWudUV U3lnNO3RlYRCR20brgpdsDFACfSzW8qnVvQmoet4wOCvkD5HL22VWTHYzVe0aqxDDd d7ApcdEgOIBq7uaCDz/2iSEKQW4xJP2/9cmpq/6E= Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 11:50:31 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Are 13.2.3 and 13.2.4 normative or not? (#3852) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f08b87787f98_40893fdfc68cd968984c1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 18:50:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f08b87787f98_40893fdfc68cd968984c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought I could clean this up fairly quickly, but I think a fair number of paragraphs need to move, including some of @MikeBishop suggestions. I'm happy to try to improve this in a few days if no one else has beaten me to it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3852#issuecomment-656829601 ----==_mimepart_5f08b87787f98_40893fdfc68cd968984c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I thought I could clean this up fairly quickly, but I think a fair number of paragraphs need to move, including some of @MikeBishop suggestions. I'm happy to try to improve this in a few days if no one else has beaten me to it.

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I'm a bit surprised we're having this conversation at this stage in the process, but I'll throw my 2 cents in.

I'm not particularly opposed to allowing PATH_CHALLENGE/PATH_RESPONSE, but it seems more invasive than explicitly saying something like "Servers MAY treat the receipt of a server generated connection ID with at least 64 bits of entropy as address validation."

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Agreed, this seems OK.

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----==_mimepart_5f08bf977b480_453a3fc3a04cd968112343-- From nobody Fri Jul 10 12:21:14 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE95E3A08A2 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 12:21:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.039 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.039 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=2.059, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qng6LR4a7ufp for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 12:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE27D3A0888 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 12:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C88261639 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 12:21:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594408871; bh=XPJhju531fqvfosPodtLtsWiNDEZtw2fTh5h76wowOs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=x7nqagBSrDC/w32E+j+hBEEvOlPU0pO4jQBu+gC7S8MLxyd3lWMUuw/2LBXiDgspL zTAqe7kTrZvLhieS5FtnZpD9xbUS4DeeM9XGHdwt3ga98XU3LSbEIWGrNdZ2n1IAcS ShrnIB64eRFGJi9RfAVBqjyutV3XsRx0LG4c8Q8Y= Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 12:21:10 -0700 From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove amplification throttle if the server receives Initial that echoes its high entropy SCID. (#3834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f08bfa6d0062_52853f9a0e6cd96813333b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 19:21:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f08bfa6d0062_52853f9a0e6cd96813333b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is my take as well. What's the disadvantage of the text Ian proposes -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3834#issuecomment-656849116 ----==_mimepart_5f08bfa6d0062_52853f9a0e6cd96813333b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This is my take as well. What's the disadvantage of the text Ian proposes

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I'm of the opinion that the first should change to different connection IDs rather than connections; the second might change to a MUST NOT, but it could remain a SHOULD and achieve the same end.

This is much simpler alternative than what is being proposed. Now an implementation can only drop a packet after doing a connection lookup, whereas before it could just compare the CID to the previous value.

If this is just a matter of personal preference, I vote for this approach, so now the score is 1:1 (with @larse being on the opposite side).

To take a step back: why is recommendation to drop packets exist in the first place? If a sender wants to coalesce packets from different connections, why not let it?

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----==_mimepart_5f08c1203ca9f_cf73fd71e2cd960189578-- From nobody Fri Jul 10 12:42:37 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C463A08B7 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 12:42:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wOLSHSqkXgYM for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 12:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C610D3A08BB for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 12:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cf59896.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cf59896.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.112.26]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69B5A05E1 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 12:42:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594410153; bh=T1w0e5ZDgPuCPu60p+lZwJ7563bGy8Lp+yBVKlN3frI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wJEAXVE4BgasgCXASOXYUlzxYvIMetJXDT+DqpJVjuLKQyX1Lz2KtUdQhG0kalxQK BEdgvW3vpe2oXB/198CbB+Xb0KM6mipHpqo9wOgyPtEWpLpAlIT2Ijef/vic/kELod s3FyR0KmrOJVNzgJ3rVgD2JXFgot/oiZNF6ozf/0= Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 12:42:33 -0700 From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove amplification throttle if the server receives Initial that echoes its high entropy SCID. (#3834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f08c4a9d7646_65293fe178ccd9601198df"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 19:42:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f08c4a9d7646_65293fe178ccd9601198df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like Ian's proposal and I dislike the idea of allowing the Path Challenge in Initial packets. I think allowing Path Challenge would just make things more complicated, while providing very little advantage over the Retry process. We might have debated that longer 2 years ago, but now is not the time -- better leave the spec as is. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3834#issuecomment-656857305 ----==_mimepart_5f08c4a9d7646_65293fe178ccd9601198df Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I like Ian's proposal and I dislike the idea of allowing the Path Challenge in Initial packets. I think allowing Path Challenge would just make things more complicated, while providing very little advantage over the Retry process. We might have debated that longer 2 years ago, but now is not the time -- better leave the spec as is.

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This discussion keeps coming up. We decided before that wasn't a sufficient mechanism, because we want clients to be able to rotate CIDs periodically (especially after quiescence) and you can't do that without spare CIDs.

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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Jul 10 13:17:04 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0623A0914 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 13:17:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ji1wwTy7RYHX for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 13:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4E0F3A091B for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 13:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.25.52]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED199E183B for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 13:16:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594412219; bh=kXP/MvW9EGfRw/qVOmBlrRFROs/84lsg42mbDv5OYgU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=X0l6v3bhBCRrp94dcpBjRDyolgwvQnp/QE+p507lforbCfDdr7kW31vROAoI7An6C e3mDQKkokY1vWFoHt9qOHAtLYySavhs1TW1IZWUMrkq+dnBphsNOma0R24dbjyJPNh 2VeW1yjuVkThE9x48lGa4T8Uql+igLUXNL/kvqwc= Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 13:16:59 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Massive batch of probably-editorial nits (#3805) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f08ccbbcefd5_55363fa30cacd96c2083b3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 20:17:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f08ccbbcefd5_55363fa30cacd96c2083b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @MikeBishop commented on this pull request. > @@ -4008,8 +3992,8 @@ off-path injection as specified in {{!RFC8201}} and Section 5.2 of {{!RFC8085}}. This validation SHOULD use the quoted packet supplied in the payload of an ICMP message to associate the message with a corresponding transport connection (see Section 4.6.1 of {{!DPLPMTUD}}). ICMP message validation MUST include matching -IP addresses and UDP ports {{!RFC8085}} and, when possible, connection IDs to an -active QUIC session. The endpoint SHOULD ignore all ICMP messages that fail +IP addresses and UDP ports ({{!RFC8085}}) and, when possible, connection IDs to Ah, while I'm looking at the text output and saying "'UDP [UDP]' looks a bit strange; let's fix that." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#discussion_r453058144 ----==_mimepart_5f08ccbbcefd5_55363fa30cacd96c2083b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4008,8 +3992,8 @@ off-path injection as specified in {{!RFC8201}} and Section 5.2 of {{!RFC8085}}.
 This validation SHOULD use the quoted packet supplied in the payload of an ICMP
 message to associate the message with a corresponding transport connection (see
 Section 4.6.1 of {{!DPLPMTUD}}).  ICMP message validation MUST include matching
-IP addresses and UDP ports {{!RFC8085}} and, when possible, connection IDs to an
-active QUIC session.  The endpoint SHOULD ignore all ICMP messages that fail
+IP addresses and UDP ports ({{!RFC8085}}) and, when possible, connection IDs to

Ah, while I'm looking at the text output and saying "'UDP [UDP]' looks a bit strange; let's fix that."

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----==_mimepart_5f08ccbbcefd5_55363fa30cacd96c2083b3-- From nobody Fri Jul 10 14:24:21 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEB93A09DD for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 14:24:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rbsXYnSbjs5P for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 14:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B4283A09DF for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 14:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.105.50]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C25E6A003A for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 14:24:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594416257; bh=LaPQGO5TTI6/2DNZd6A2bebuouBUL6ThPgqSKW6ACHw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xSymI2s1+ywUNiPTmsbsPnGUpb1N9JYjEoxeYVAp0WhFg9acha2IlcmABHQLH3rUL VDwcfwwv+PKrK/WjU3ZZwNqL8GzWNEg0WfkOIb0q1OWnYjm0ZXCPL58Y+A3quMWUG6 7UTfZisgwMKDa6M2PJ071AGhevGUdWDY0NJ5I5MU= Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 14:24:17 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] How long is a validated address good for? (#3880) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f08dc813b727_76d03ff31aacd96829019d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 21:24:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f08dc813b727_76d03ff31aacd96829019d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd suggest we do nothing about this, since I don't have a good answer. To quote Roberto: "A server's gonna do what a server's gonna do." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3880#issuecomment-656897690 ----==_mimepart_5f08dc813b727_76d03ff31aacd96829019d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'd suggest we do nothing about this, since I don't have a good answer.

To quote Roberto: "A server's gonna do what a server's gonna do."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 Connection ID:
 
 : An opaque identifier that is used to identify a QUIC connection at an
-  endpoint.  Each endpoint sets a value for its peer to include in packets sent
-  towards the endpoint.
+  endpoint.  Each endpoint selects one or more Connection IDs for its peer to

s/selects/specifies/ or s/selects/provides/

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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 : The endpoint initiating a QUIC connection.
 
 Server:
 
-: The endpoint accepting incoming QUIC connections.
+: The endpoint accepting an incoming QUIC connection.

Can you expand on why? I'm adjusting it because nothing in the server role requires it to be accepting multiple connections. We speak about clients initiating "a QUIC connection," and for symmetry should talk about a server accepting an individual QUIC connection. Dealing with multiple simultaneous connections is something clients and servers both might do, but it's not fundamental to the definition of either client or server.

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I think it should not allow having multiple packets for different connections in a single UDP datagram - please.
Currently I see implementations (including mine) have something like:

  1. Receive UDP packet.
  2. Parse packet header.
  3. Check CID, find the connection handler.
  4. Pass the packet to the respective connection (thread) to handle the packet.

I think it makes implementations much more complicated (already).
Also I wonder it may cause security issue if having bad assumption?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
 Client:
 
 : The endpoint initiating a QUIC connection.
 
 Server:
 
-: The endpoint accepting incoming QUIC connections.
+: The endpoint accepting an incoming QUIC connection.

You are right: nothing in the server role mandates that the server accept more than one connection. On the other hand, in the majority of cases, from literature to practical implementations, a server does accept more than one connection. Hence, my own mental model is that of "one server, many clients." I predict this model is shared by the majority of readers, which is why I dislike the proposed change in wording.

This is not to say that the new version is bad; it is just worse in comparison. The former definition causes less mental load because it fits the mental model.

While we are on this sentence: perhaps drop "incoming?"

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----==_mimepart_5f0abc06342b2_59d83fcaa6ccd96c347891-- From nobody Sun Jul 12 08:48:58 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742B53A0C1B for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 08:48:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id am2CTcNgFE47 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 08:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29F223A0C1A for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 08:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.108.24]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A948E008F for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 08:48:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594568935; bh=9g24muGsAjRQqDUyc1k0IPD6pQbsbYgd8g8lK8wRE0k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tuFJ1jUY+4Bo8ZB5wU9CbgIslh4ExFRB9jWMCqvc6PnvDeu8VnTYsuU/ctI9RHEvR te70NvY8FIJW0zTZ1bZkTaQPxTyff47LplpnlqDW5caB5RQ2de51rjhs/peGpmHlkR oSa8Q5F5DQvchf8jSsU8++jVaRJ1a4Rlmfcbtopc= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 08:48:54 -0700 From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Do I need to reset congestion info when the port changes? (#3842) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0b30e6eef80_44773fa3a32cd9646327e3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 15:48:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0b30e6eef80_44773fa3a32cd9646327e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would be weary about a blanket statement that if a port (or address) change is merely rebinding, then transmission should go on with the previously estimated rate and window. The port or address change is a network event indicating that something changed. It used to be that NAT rebinding were strongly correlated with transmission hiatus -- the NAT would recycle bindings if it did not observe traffic for some time, typically about 30 seconds. It may also well be that the rebinding indicates a routing change on the path to the NAT. In both cases, the network condition did change and merely reusing the old estimates is a mistake. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3842#issuecomment-657240091 ----==_mimepart_5f0b30e6eef80_44773fa3a32cd9646327e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I would be weary about a blanket statement that if a port (or address) change is merely rebinding, then transmission should go on with the previously estimated rate and window. The port or address change is a network event indicating that something changed. It used to be that NAT rebinding were strongly correlated with transmission hiatus -- the NAT would recycle bindings if it did not observe traffic for some time, typically about 30 seconds. It may also well be that the rebinding indicates a routing change on the path to the NAT. In both cases, the network condition did change and merely reusing the old estimates is a mistake.

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The classic example would be coalescing Handshake packets, whose DCID is the SCID used by the server, and Initial or Zero-RTT packets, whose DCID is the client-chosen Initial DCID. The client MAY switch to using the server chosen CID for Initial packets. Maybe we should say that it MUST do that if it is going to coalesce Initial and Handshake packets. Not so clear about 0-RTT packets. Is it actually allowed to send them with a different DCID than the Initial DCID?

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I'm not sure I agree with this analysis, but if that's the group consensus then we should prohibit this behavior, not have a MUST NOT with an unclear exception. My point is that what goes in this document should be what the WG thinks that generic internet servers ought to do.

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----==_mimepart_5f0b3b79cfbc2_62e43f9be20cd95c22695b2-- From nobody Sun Jul 12 09:50:15 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB103A00C3 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 09:50:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BSR34mWLjg-g for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 09:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-9.smtp.github.com (out-9.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B4963A00C1 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 09:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-9d2806a.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-9d2806a.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.102.50]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C673F261639 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 09:50:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594572612; bh=Dfk2V3TqkNlLEx5Y0PTGpkUauNeWvsqSfs+lD/QL7so=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mCdeRgIOu+J1HO+6zbzuUo8ujaG6453qIAmpfl69iZpvYj/TX8Fy0ZFXgp86MPPE3 bqqiJqGyiOdpLr28IkJAbVumjmb2qPP0EufTsE2EYTVqY9cKJVL+c+Ga+EKVaNeKCO 41QYxPwPvOLUmzV1poXjP3Ez1BB68AvMzdsgD+ak= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 09:50:12 -0700 From: Praveen Balasubramanian Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Do I need to reset congestion info when the port changes? (#3842) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0b3f4480f17_43d93fa3a0acd9642069a9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: pravb X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 16:50:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0b3f4480f17_43d93fa3a0acd9642069a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree resetting congestion state is better in this case. Since NAT rebinding only occurs on idle, resetting state seems in spirit of past recommendations around resetting congestion window on idle. I think we should remove the exception. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3842#issuecomment-657248003 ----==_mimepart_5f0b3f4480f17_43d93fa3a0acd9642069a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree resetting congestion state is better in this case. Since NAT rebinding only occurs on idle, resetting state seems in spirit of past recommendations around resetting congestion window on idle. I think we should remove the exception.

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----==_mimepart_5f0b3f4480f17_43d93fa3a0acd9642069a9-- From nobody Sun Jul 12 09:56:18 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE563A00C4 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 09:56:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4QE6X6Bv7Nc2 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 09:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57DBA3A00C1 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 09:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.55]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B996E002F for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 09:56:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594572974; bh=7dYEFBD3qYGzRDNIDCWsQZw+2345ARWNbG52YuDPHus=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oDGq+ZuYXmxUhYDwxTbJ05lMS5cJw1UrWuQRngHay+3SWslOPxUHnbm9U0WoJ+QyQ MXEqafjgZLh4esiQSAF8rIziEnc+1geA2cN0gYRzE/a3VTCBixRrT1S/0e8RsPYVx/ cA+5g6Myy0MvNJoy8RoRQcx6dvFtSan4GSVt00Tw= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 09:56:14 -0700 From: Praveen Balasubramanian Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] MUST requirement on bursts smaller than IW is too restrictive (#3892) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0b40ae35d2f_2f783fcaa6ccd96c26952ac"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: pravb X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 16:56:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0b40ae35d2f_2f783fcaa6ccd96c26952ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Implementations MUST either use pacing or another method to limit such bursts to the initial congestion window; see Section 7.2." This precludes use of segmentation offload of sizes greater than IW. Hardware does not pace TSO for TCP or USO for UDP. In datacenters we routinely send bursts that are higher without causing loss. Both Linux and Windows TCP send bursts larger than IW (up to 64k) at higher bandwidths. Higher bursts are required for achieving high data rates. This text should be changed to a SHOULD. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3892 ----==_mimepart_5f0b40ae35d2f_2f783fcaa6ccd96c26952ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

"Implementations MUST either use pacing or another method to limit such bursts to the initial congestion window; see Section 7.2."

This precludes use of segmentation offload of sizes greater than IW. Hardware does not pace TSO for TCP or USO for UDP. In datacenters we routinely send bursts that are higher without causing loss. Both Linux and Windows TCP send bursts larger than IW (up to 64k) at higher bandwidths. Higher bursts are required for achieving high data rates.

This text should be changed to a SHOULD.

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----==_mimepart_5f0b40ae35d2f_2f783fcaa6ccd96c26952ac-- From nobody Sun Jul 12 10:12:55 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806983A02BE for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 10:12:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0LVm3W0DtLdX for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 10:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 275A33A00E4 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 10:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.92]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44485E002A for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 10:12:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594573972; bh=y7dcbkB+A/jOk813SFXsEv/Rv73ChzzkjLv7byWp2AI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=a9ITpOoNTDRXI1fXUh1qB+X9Uc5VYDTbUZQzgMjQCgnouQI2/VW84hlI84BlfEqix J5NwABFtaRX325U5V18mijQinN+bAPCZPcAtkd+2od+A36gaQVyQwyfcCe06QxdSYN MPLd2SN7q9IO5TBetVvq4Ccvai6iGxZmvtjy3OZU= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 10:12:52 -0700 From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Do I need to reset congestion info when the port changes? (#3842) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0b4494352be_2d723ffa806cd9686167e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:12:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0b4494352be_2d723ffa806cd9686167e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @pravb it would be nice if congestion response allowed better choices than "continue as nothing happened" and "go back to start as if nothing was known about the path". I think the endpoints have some knowledge about the past of the path, and also an indication that this knowledge could be wrong. How wrong might depend on timing, e.g., time since past measurements. I could see applying some Bayesian logic there. But this is clearly research. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3842#issuecomment-657250754 ----==_mimepart_5f0b4494352be_2d723ffa806cd9686167e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@pravb it would be nice if congestion response allowed better choices than "continue as nothing happened" and "go back to start as if nothing was known about the path". I think the endpoints have some knowledge about the past of the path, and also an indication that this knowledge could be wrong. How wrong might depend on timing, e.g., time since past measurements. I could see applying some Bayesian logic there. But this is clearly research.

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----==_mimepart_5f0ba209edd02_19c93fa3a0acd9643969f5-- From nobody Sun Jul 12 16:58:26 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB863A0A4A for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 16:58:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nrJm6j3_7XjE for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 16:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 364133A0A47 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 16:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-bb778fb.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-bb778fb.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.102.56]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775886608AD for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 16:58:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594598302; bh=rGEu5Vgs9J0Y/oRO12fS5H11/+N/iazv5kXD4Ydbpi0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=kUyCoxULjxI1lvknHg6WaA8tq+/6UqStGjPT77S2MSmo5NaDVb+QV8RBWxuYpB3nu 0QgyivsUtPH/5jFBtXgu6ymlaWtrbj8LNnwzH1ndpTsYVT1jxWxMqoL2e9ApXVw7qO +qIFFwICSzhE1fyGYDxALeNXqwZfcRikPyrVv2hE= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 16:58:22 -0700 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 9e94c0: A small certificate is good Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 23:58:25 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 9e94c00ed2133f30225fd31b4b7ea3ade8a9d702 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9e94c00ed2133f30225fd31b4b7ea3ade8a9d702 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- A small certificate is good There are a few ways that this can be managed, but it's worth pointing out why, and some things that might help. Closes #3784. Commit: c7c75414c9f761b5a8875d308938522dd139e565 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c7c75414c9f761b5a8875d308938522dd139e565 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fixup grammarz Commit: a96ea27ea8e9487b353e8b683bb295b20cf15d7a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a96ea27ea8e9487b353e8b683bb295b20cf15d7a Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- --comma Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop Commit: eeb38347eec33512acf05a754e3491954f0be5a6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/eeb38347eec33512acf05a754e3491954f0be5a6 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3825 from quicwg/small-cert-good A small certificate is good Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/e8eed6e6ab2d...eeb38347eec3 From nobody Sun Jul 12 16:58:31 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B50D3A0A55 for ; 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----==_mimepart_5f0ba3a856425_21333fac3dccd96c12875-- From nobody Sun Jul 12 16:58:43 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6548C3A0A64 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 16:58:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id msRMHvAI_oWf for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 16:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A57C3A0A55 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 16:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0f7e7fd.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0f7e7fd.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.110.17]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED676E0063 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 16:58:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594598317; bh=auuYy9i6WYj/A0JeDUxLvVXjBFN1qR3yRBL9jKHB99Y=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=WFikvErQxcr7YHQmJVMaMQYYHjaonJ4vygvK1tNO2/D4xKiTH2GVC1zIMHFIN/fLx 3utgD14hkdZ8Gi22eFbd/ovniHLPKsyZj4BnBRaJSucmR7TY/XnYlI6Jj/75c4x5KT a10KWlc14W2NpWt9aUjv/SfMuxcElkw8QFAMeLd4= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 16:58:37 -0700 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] d79bdc: Remove claim about 1-RTT keys Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 23:58:39 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: d79bdc5b5b74a9a73d38f1eef32fd891036c36af https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d79bdc5b5b74a9a73d38f1eef32fd891036c36af Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove claim about 1-RTT keys This claim isn't necessary, as the statement about suitability is what matters here. 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Commit: aad5c6b5ad0d9dbf5d23ae87c25672a7dbe58009 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/aad5c6b5ad0d9dbf5d23ae87c25672a7dbe58009 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3866 from quicwg/1rtt-keys-not-fs Remove claim about 1-RTT keys Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/eeb38347eec3...aad5c6b5ad0d From nobody Sun Jul 12 16:58:47 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337DB3A0A55 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 16:58:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Jul 12 17:22:44 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42D13A0AFA for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:22:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.153 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.153 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.048, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0LWU2Z_XE43x for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5AFB3A0AF6 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-943b171.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-943b171.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.22.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00547661142 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:22:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594599760; bh=y1Rb1APY/7XYq2q8vBQb3CteCAijicbdKQOBkecHS34=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=l51IIpoNX6UIcK3L4hGZSyMFuOoPa++GARQ0tKKU8pZysK1RJxzuJhxxAYVXYLAD3 ha/9Y+iZuiQKR5tt5UWTY0PocKm/CKO2g9yopb6ASSdjuLsYzCe69NLyRDOlsc4tpG X3GJeMhTFDA2+EMvgMDzw5t7XrgiJWOR8QgiQp4w= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:22:39 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Do I need to reset congestion info when the port changes? (#3842) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0ba94fe58a4_3ed33fc7372cd95c6339c7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 00:22:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0ba94fe58a4_3ed33fc7372cd95c6339c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd like to point out that this is unilateral endpoint behavior, and removing the exception does not mean that deployments won't implement different things here. This is at a minimum something that implementations will play around with, and the exception allows room for it because we believe it's safe to allow some discretion here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3842#issuecomment-657299158 ----==_mimepart_5f0ba94fe58a4_3ed33fc7372cd95c6339c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'd like to point out that this is unilateral endpoint behavior, and removing the exception does not mean that deployments won't implement different things here. This is at a minimum something that implementations will play around with, and the exception allows room for it because we believe it's safe to allow some discretion here.

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----==_mimepart_5f0ba94fe58a4_3ed33fc7372cd95c6339c7-- From nobody Sun Jul 12 17:25:24 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242023A0B0E for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:25:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=0.7, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h-3WZ0mzpRwU for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E13C43A0B0C for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.57]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4F4E0092 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:25:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594599920; bh=tBuqraKH+04YhKfxPpIw4M5RThEVIOSx/GueJecWkEk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lD6fBP/IC9esY3pPIJa3PiCh4uQ6uYIL64757/Gvn6ZhHsugoSobSsVjaz5QHoI5g H8ybflYQ8WXdr8La8QRKZAX+ZLV8MkVa+kZ3tey6XAaIKeZMYOu8sNneeXg0wo8gaD M9IaDgAGKPXxfkDpQlAEt0minDJKhMg+IBOqql1g= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:25:20 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MUST requirement on bursts smaller than IW is too restrictive (#3892) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0ba9f0dc29_5fc13ffd9d8cd9641153216"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 00:25:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0ba9f0dc29_5fc13ffd9d8cd9641153216 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @pravb: DC requirements are likely to run into more than just this problem -- for instance, the initial window itself might be too small. Since the recovery document was really meant for Internet use, not for DC, I would suggest leaving out DC requirements. Perhaps there's a separate document in order for how to tune QUIC for DC. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3892#issuecomment-657299611 ----==_mimepart_5f0ba9f0dc29_5fc13ffd9d8cd9641153216 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@pravb: DC requirements are likely to run into more than just this problem -- for instance, the initial window itself might be too small. Since the recovery document was really meant for Internet use, not for DC, I would suggest leaving out DC requirements. Perhaps there's a separate document in order for how to tune QUIC for DC.

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@dtikhonov : Our assumption has been that load balancers, for instance, can simply route on the CID in the first header they see in the UDP datagram. If we allow different connections to be coalesced, that complicates things. It may also start to leak some things about the way load is distributed within the server network: if some CIDs when combined cause loss and some don't, that reveals some things about how the server load is distributed.

Is there a strong argument for changing this behavior? This new language in #3870 was always the intent. I suspect it didn't change when we started allowing multiple CIDs within a connection. Unless there's an argument for changing behavior, this is really an editorial PR.

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----==_mimepart_5f0babc8d9060_69fa3fe24a8cd9641687349-- From nobody Sun Jul 12 17:42:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3BA3A0BE6 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:42:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=0.7, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W_ZSjbknM5oP for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E169E3A0BDD for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cf59896.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cf59896.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.112.26]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D2B6E003C for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:42:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594600959; bh=QrM+Js/Qg7gujvk00Xj6GWdF23/x9SIeOV5NQ9JkAU8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=DfTYrKQHqIchA1FURpbPWaVVFlJO/bf8Q7l/74udauEFjcLv4hXvmAaRbrTzpgXo2 SeU7vw3tgm4CAobTJuLmW3o7wNBrlvedZQYUH8dQLdisbrunq9jL6u5bFc0yYHZU4X LqZDrx/KBLHaBjx1Y+L+6etR4e0CLT/4s9lEY2+o= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:42:39 -0700 From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MUST requirement on bursts smaller than IW is too restrictive (#3892) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0badff17823_3be73ff9112cd964402566"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 00:42:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0badff17823_3be73ff9112cd964402566 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As an individual, I agree with Jana. We're not going to be able to ship a specification that is able to accommodate all of the spectrum of network characteristics. The documents should allow implementers to build a QUIC implementation that is safe to deploy on the Internet. As someone less familiar with DCTCP and more general DC considerations, the nuance of making a MUST a SHOULD is likely to be lost on me. A document that takes a more broad look as QUIC in the DC would be super helpful. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3892#issuecomment-657302677 ----==_mimepart_5f0badff17823_3be73ff9112cd964402566 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As an individual, I agree with Jana. We're not going to be able to ship a specification that is able to accommodate all of the spectrum of network characteristics. The documents should allow implementers to build a QUIC implementation that is safe to deploy on the Internet.

As someone less familiar with DCTCP and more general DC considerations, the nuance of making a MUST a SHOULD is likely to be lost on me. A document that takes a more broad look as QUIC in the DC would be super helpful.

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----==_mimepart_5f0badff17823_3be73ff9112cd964402566-- From nobody Sun Jul 12 17:45:37 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953843A0BF7 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:45:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=0.7, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oWszumQD7oLk for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79D723A0BF4 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.102]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FAF6A1020 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:45:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594601129; bh=5RCBY7oAGT95a1VnO5/RKmhSa84D6sFrLclPW7i3KcQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WltLVvWqiTSRcy4rxFR+4P7NYy9KM9Py8+J9jQ4KtM0/k6DyBN3AqUSht2swLlAYi NN8lz20k8GftC3Sd6szgvAAtbe5okJ3DlNDtCnoTrANKQSCHyAgrcnRrlDvCVe1edx /2cuAFyi9D5isUKxAgYmdBLSHk6YXAAnI3D/wbow= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:45:29 -0700 From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Do I need to reset congestion info when the port changes? (#3842) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0baea986e17_75443fab8d2cd9682964b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 00:45:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0baea986e17_75443fab8d2cd9682964b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @janaiyengar we might debate how safe it is to keep sending as if nothing changed. There is some risk of creating a spike of congestion on the new path if the assessment was wrong. On the other hand, doing that when "just the port changed" will work most of the time, especially if the congestion controller already shrinks the window after the link goes idle, which many do. So in the hand I agree that we are probably better off just keeping the existing text. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3842#issuecomment-657303214 ----==_mimepart_5f0baea986e17_75443fab8d2cd9682964b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar we might debate how safe it is to keep sending as if nothing changed. There is some risk of creating a spike of congestion on the new path if the assessment was wrong. On the other hand, doing that when "just the port changed" will work most of the time, especially if the congestion controller already shrinks the window after the link goes idle, which many do. So in the hand I agree that we are probably better off just keeping the existing text.

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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

LGTM, one suggestion

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -548,47 +548,50 @@ use.
 ### TLS Interface Summary
 
 {{exchange-summary}} summarizes the exchange between QUIC and TLS for both
-client and server. Each arrow is tagged with the encryption level used for that
-transmission.
+client and server. Solid arrows indicate packets that carry CRYPTO frames;

Why not say "handshake data", since you say "application data" later?

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Changing this so that all the actions for a single endpoint were grouped seemed to be the best arrangement. All events and actions are as close as possible in the ordering to the preceding event that caused or enabled it. The application data packets are displayed with a different marking, which helps distinguish those that carry CRYPTO frames. The final implied exchange for Get Handshake was removed. This was, I think, intended to imply something about session tickets. Without explanation, it is confusing. This doesn't show HANDSHAKE_DONE, nor do I think that it should, because that is something that the transport does once it gets the Handshake Complete signal. 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Not so clear about 0-RTT packets. Is it actually allowed to send them with a different DCID than the Initial DCID? @huitema If I understand correctly, every time you change the connection ID, you change the connection ID for all packet number spaces. Assuming that my reading of the spec is correct in this regard, it seems like there's no compelling reason for making this change? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3800#issuecomment-657311225 ----==_mimepart_5f0bb787747b_16073f83b2ccd95c12640b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Maybe we should say that it MUST do that if it is going to coalesce Initial and Handshake packets. Not so clear about 0-RTT packets. Is it actually allowed to send them with a different DCID than the Initial DCID?

@huitema If I understand correctly, every time you change the connection ID, you change the connection ID for all packet number spaces. Assuming that my reading of the spec is correct in this regard, it seems like there's no compelling reason for making this change?

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----==_mimepart_5f0bb787747b_16073f83b2ccd95c12640b9-- From nobody Sun Jul 12 18:41:53 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60C93A07D0 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:41:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=0.7, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Sonef7si472A for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3F4E3A07CE for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.61]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EB7E0F80 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:41:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594604510; bh=nh1/Go+2yykzTHoUZvKe53PW8dwS2cMflhb/vUUfeWc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=iueSaXFky1V4G35sq+gVweslQM0iKxXjcDTrUHZORY1sEwowlgHIQKAOa75vQAMNl H/08f/T7acphw4A9pn7zbb6pPPIuof8t0sDmvyo0ETd/SVnLHkLO5h3GsSbb5i9NWc ZFwWlAlVNkM9ZKVogFwxaluOYp91cNzStlbTon4w= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:41:50 -0700 From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Coalescing different CIDs for same connection (#3800) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0bbbded18ce_5fee3ff62a6cd9681233146"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:41:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0bbbded18ce_5fee3ff62a6cd9681233146 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @marten-seemann the spec actually says (7.2): _The first flight of 0-RTT packets use the same Destination Connection ID and Source Connection ID values as the client's first Initial packet. Upon first receiving an Initial or Retry packet from the server, the client uses the Source Connection ID supplied by the server as the Destination Connection ID for subsequent packets, including any 0-RTT packets._ SO you are correct, there is no ambiguity. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3800#issuecomment-657315419 ----==_mimepart_5f0bbbded18ce_5fee3ff62a6cd9681233146 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@marten-seemann the spec actually says (7.2): The first flight of 0-RTT packets use the same Destination Connection ID and Source Connection ID values as the client's first Initial packet. Upon first receiving an Initial or Retry packet from the server, the client uses the Source Connection ID supplied by the server as the Destination Connection ID for subsequent packets, including any 0-RTT packets.
SO you are correct, there is no ambiguity.

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Ian's suggestion seems fine. It's an addition to the spec, and I'm not really hearing any strong dissensions.

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I agree that this seems like a more appropriate error. In addition to @marten-seemann 's point, I will not that this is a semantic error, not one of encoding (which suggests syntactic).

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As I noted in the PR, I agree that PROTOCOL_VIOLATION seems like a more appropriate error. In addition to @marten-seemann's point, this is a semantic error, not one of encoding (which suggests syntactic).

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----==_mimepart_5f0bc04acf41d_11e43fc13aecd96c14479ae-- From nobody Sun Jul 12 19:18:54 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E393A08C0 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 19:18:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.153 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.153 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.048, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P2ZxhUFLjScN for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 19:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47EFB3A08BD for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 19:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1dbcc59.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1dbcc59.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.105.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9437C2822C5 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 19:18:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594606731; bh=baKaiyNQORSzKAoZP/4FFmsNQz24Gu1T4YPGIotFBC8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pbVklLIuAU13Qo35ApizdSwRPADsvyD8G91tIYIlMCHRH+LvevPMltlRjwxE3C/62 +uubtojT+5ZircZ9VZxuZJmjFkasXr7eWMf0nW4AjTVDofKl/LM7fGhS2qXIIgHCZL 4nc5ttq1mmmJQ/JRCqPien7IYj+OadEPdPGY+Yoo= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 19:18:51 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't Stateless Reset probes from IPs you wouldn't talk to (#3832) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0bc48b84629_298c3fb7a98cd96c117059f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:18:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0bc48b84629_298c3fb7a98cd96c117059f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm a bit confused in this discussion. Stateless Resets have had connection-level scope so far, and using that signal for invalid paths would be an overload. Not that I'm opposed to this on the face of it, I am just noting that as a significant departure. FWIW, I'm on board with the change to saying "a valid Stateless Reset MUST NOT be sent, while a connection with that CID could still be active". That is the right response I think. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3832#issuecomment-657323432 ----==_mimepart_5f0bc48b84629_298c3fb7a98cd96c117059f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm a bit confused in this discussion. Stateless Resets have had connection-level scope so far, and using that signal for invalid paths would be an overload. Not that I'm opposed to this on the face of it, I am just noting that as a significant departure.

FWIW, I'm on board with the change to saying "a valid Stateless Reset MUST NOT be sent, while a connection with that CID could still be active". That is the right response I think.

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Yeah, this is tricky. Can we move the discussion to the issue please?

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I agree that the PR doesn't solve this problem. Conservatively, you could avoid using losses of any packets that were sent before an RTT sample was received as legitimate for persistent congestion, and this might not be particularly hard to implement. You need one variable that is set on the first RTT measurement (largest PN sent for each space), and ensure that all PNs considered when detecting persistent congestion are greater than that number (per PN space).

Not doing persistent congestion before the handshake would be quite an aggressive departure from what our intent is.

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----==_mimepart_5f0bc871dc941_5a003ffd9d8cd964202231-- From nobody Sun Jul 12 19:42:51 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BAF3A0944 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 19:42:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.153 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.153 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.048, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YKYWjp4Ogclf for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 19:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F4D93A092D for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 19:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.39]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9011B6A0B7D for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 19:42:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594608167; bh=3fhK27WENkQlYT3MaL0YfQmZ+J+m9wAX3mXtIAs4wTs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kJlVqmt2VHUARiiSFgUFjdrXHICleAfKTXQRkz/fDgZI7U8imxrmy76aN1vD8G9Bz cGLY4fuDye842TBaxBjrtAVQgYu4Jk1ht5KaYr2Dw9Qr+EVqS9jMPH44opsGasx5GO Gck06eL1rJ5dyoj141sEwi+kDHxoPrvC3Ck98M9U= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 19:42:47 -0700 From: Kazu Yamamoto Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] update kInitialRtt to 333ms, use that constant (#3823) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0bca277ff6f_69fa3fe24a8cd96419566ea"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazu-yamamoto X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 02:42:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0bca277ff6f_69fa3fe24a8cd96419566ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is not necessary to resolve the following by this PR. But the clause of `if (is first RTT sample):` in `UpdateRtt` is necessary? I think that it should be removed because of Initialization. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3823#issuecomment-657328640 ----==_mimepart_5f0bca277ff6f_69fa3fe24a8cd96419566ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It is not necessary to resolve the following by this PR. But the clause of if (is first RTT sample): in UpdateRtt is necessary? I think that it should be removed because of Initialization.

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This should resolve some parts of #3813.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3893

Commit Summary

  • using max_ack_delay instead of MaxAckDelay.
  • using in-flight.
  • using towards instead of toward.
  • using "a client" because of "a server"
  • using DetectAndRemoveAckedPackets instead of undefined DetectNewlyAckedPackets
  • fixing strange "for".

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@kazu-yamamoto It is necessary, as the RTT sample is applied differently. The first sample overwrites the initial values, while the consecutive samples are applied to improve the moving average.

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -690,23 +690,51 @@ Client SHOULD NOT reuse tickets as that allows entities other than the server
 to correlate connections; see Section C.4 of {{!TLS13}}.
 
 
-## Enabling 0-RTT {#enable-0rtt}
+## 0-RTT
+
+The 0-RTT feature in QUIC allows a client to send application data before the

Sorry, I don't know where "delay" comes into this.

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@huitema Thank you for looking this up.
Then I'm opposed to making any change here. Not only is it unnecessary (that alone should be enough), it would also make it more difficult to evolve the way we deal with coalesced packets in the future: I can imagine a future QUIC version introducing a way to authenticate the entire coalesced packet, while at the same time compressing the header. This will be easier if we keep the explicit property that all connection IDs of the coalesced packets match.

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Unfortunately, this PR bundles a bunch of unrelated changes. Some of them I like, some of them I don't. > @@ -518,7 +518,7 @@ or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the correct packet number space. -When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight, +When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in-flight, I think "in flight" is more correct here. > @@ -615,7 +615,7 @@ a packet containing unacknowledged CRYPTO data earlier than the PTO expiry, subject to address validation limits; see Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. Peers can also use coalesced packets to ensure that each datagram elicits at -least one acknowledgement. For example, clients can coalesce an Initial packet +least one acknowledgement. For example, a client can coalesce an Initial packet The previous sentence uses a plural. Why change one but not the other? > @@ -657,7 +657,7 @@ send, the sender SHOULD send a PING or other ack-eliciting frame in a single packet, re-arming the PTO timer. Alternatively, instead of sending an ack-eliciting packet, the sender MAY mark -any packets still in flight as lost. Doing so avoids sending an additional +any packets still in-flight as lost. Doing so avoids sending an additional Again here, I think "in flight" reads better. > @@ -697,7 +697,7 @@ When packet protection keys are discarded (see Section 4.10 of {{QUIC-TLS}}), all packets that were sent with those keys can no longer be acknowledged because their acknowledgements cannot be processed anymore. The sender MUST discard all recovery state associated with those packets and MUST remove them from -the count of bytes in flight. +the count of bytes in-flight. Same here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@marten-seemann requested changes on this pull request.

Unfortunately, this PR bundles a bunch of unrelated changes. Some of them I like, some of them I don't.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -518,7 +518,7 @@ or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always
 set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the
 correct packet number space.
 
-When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight,
+When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in-flight,

I think "in flight" is more correct here.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -615,7 +615,7 @@ a packet containing unacknowledged CRYPTO data earlier than the PTO expiry,
 subject to address validation limits; see Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.
 
 Peers can also use coalesced packets to ensure that each datagram elicits at
-least one acknowledgement.  For example, clients can coalesce an Initial packet
+least one acknowledgement.  For example, a client can coalesce an Initial packet

The previous sentence uses a plural. Why change one but not the other?

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -657,7 +657,7 @@ send, the sender SHOULD send a PING or other ack-eliciting frame in a single
 packet, re-arming the PTO timer.
 
 Alternatively, instead of sending an ack-eliciting packet, the sender MAY mark
-any packets still in flight as lost.  Doing so avoids sending an additional
+any packets still in-flight as lost.  Doing so avoids sending an additional

Again here, I think "in flight" reads better.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -697,7 +697,7 @@ When packet protection keys are discarded (see Section 4.10 of {{QUIC-TLS}}),
 all packets that were sent with those keys can no longer be acknowledged because
 their acknowledgements cannot be processed anymore. The sender MUST discard
 all recovery state associated with those packets and MUST remove them from
-the count of bytes in flight.
+the count of bytes in-flight.

Same here.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -518,7 +518,7 @@ or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always
 set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the
 correct packet number space.
 
-When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight,
+When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in-flight,

I might be too strict but "in flight" is not defined anywhere. When I looked into stuff relating to "in-flight", I actually had to search both "in-flight" and "in flight". It was inconvenience.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -615,7 +615,7 @@ a packet containing unacknowledged CRYPTO data earlier than the PTO expiry,
 subject to address validation limits; see Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.
 
 Peers can also use coalesced packets to ensure that each datagram elicits at
-least one acknowledgement.  For example, clients can coalesce an Initial packet
+least one acknowledgement.  For example, a client can coalesce an Initial packet

This is followed by "a server". Why are both singular and plural used in the same sentence?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -518,7 +518,7 @@ or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always
 set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the
 correct packet number space.
 
-When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight,
+When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in-flight,

This is a quirk in English. The hyphen is only used when "in-flight" is a modifier for some other term, like "in-flight packets". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_compound#Hyphenated_compound_modifiers

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----==_mimepart_5f0bd6682ecc9_4fd13ffa806cd9681225812-- From nobody Sun Jul 12 20:44:57 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A91E3A0C86 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 20:44:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.475 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.475 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=0.726, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1hRoxeZ47hGa for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 20:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D1693A0889 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 20:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-56fcc46.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-56fcc46.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.102.32]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA516A0348 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 20:44:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594611894; bh=ztiY/4WOlRXUBgw+HStNGUMopZf0poHcs8zYTnsjgAg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=kvun6v+EmN/NCsOAFjlgOI+BzaCScwTAdgoIITX1Ztzq7bT1/ryxcEXBqFfalxVkj /n43P6uDeW7S2LXVXrGlG8b47II4vtdpHzenD5QK5o4Ufqxv0nq3yiRaD9PgpGXmrP b8cV0NslN0M5m1y0CykC25mMzFxTn8rSrn5V2IyQ= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 20:44:54 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Massive batch of probably-editorial nits (#3805) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0bd8b630c54_3a1b3fee0e0cd96019516e8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 03:44:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0bd8b630c54_3a1b3fee0e0cd96019516e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson approved this pull request. I'm happy with this. > Client: : The endpoint initiating a QUIC connection. Server: -: The endpoint accepting incoming QUIC connections. +: The endpoint accepting an incoming QUIC connection. ```suggestion : The endpoint that accepts a QUIC connection. ``` > @@ -205,28 +205,28 @@ Out-of-order packet: Endpoint: -: An entity that can participate in a QUIC connection by generating, - receiving, and processing QUIC packets. There are only two types of endpoint - in QUIC: client and server. +: An entity that can participate in a QUIC connection by generating, receiving, + and processing QUIC packets. There are only two types of endpoint in QUIC: + client and server. Client: : The endpoint initiating a QUIC connection. ```suggestion : The endpoint that initiates a QUIC connection. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3805#pullrequestreview-446963416 ----==_mimepart_5f0bd8b630c54_3a1b3fee0e0cd96019516e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Closes #3832. 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I took a swing at this.

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It's not that great that this text never said this so directly before.

Closes #3832.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -6369,14 +6369,17 @@ endpoints that share a static key for stateless reset (see {{reset-token}}) MUST
 be arranged so that packets with a given connection ID always arrive at an
 instance that has connection state, unless that connection is no longer active.
 
+More generally, servers MUST NOT generate a stateless reset if a connection with

So we choose to omit saying "valid stateless reset", assuming this is implied? I.e. a server may generate a stateless reset for a connection handled by a different server, but it is ok if they do not share stateless reset secret, since the resulting stateless reset will be invalid.

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As I described in #3800 (comment), I changed my mind on this PR. I don't think it's necessary to make this change.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -6369,14 +6369,17 @@ endpoints that share a static key for stateless reset (see {{reset-token}}) MUST
 be arranged so that packets with a given connection ID always arrive at an
 instance that has connection state, unless that connection is no longer active.
 
+More generally, servers MUST NOT generate a stateless reset if a connection with

Yes, I think that "valid" is implied. In the case of one server generating a stateless reset based on a connection ID that came from another server, that wouldn't affect that other connection. It would only affect the connection that the server generating the stateless reset might have created, if there was such a connection.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -6369,14 +6369,17 @@ endpoints that share a static key for stateless reset (see {{reset-token}}) MUST
 be arranged so that packets with a given connection ID always arrive at an
 instance that has connection state, unless that connection is no longer active.
 
+More generally, servers MUST NOT generate a stateless reset if a connection with

Ok. Just to be clear, it is not about servers that generate connection IDs. It is about sets of servers that share the same Stateless Reset secrets. Servers MUST NOT send a stateless reset for a connection ID, if it is possible that this connection ID is active on any server that is still able to handle this connection and shares the same Stateless Reset secret.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -6369,14 +6369,17 @@ endpoints that share a static key for stateless reset (see {{reset-token}}) MUST
 be arranged so that packets with a given connection ID always arrive at an
 instance that has connection state, unless that connection is no longer active.
 
+More generally, servers MUST NOT generate a stateless reset if a connection with

Yes (with the exception noted in the paragraph that follows, which won't affect your 5-tuple-based load balancer).

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@marten-seemann

I can imagine a future QUIC version introducing a way to authenticate the entire coalesced packet, while at the same time compressing the header. This will be easier if we keep the explicit property that all connection IDs of the coalesced packets match.

I'm not sure if I agree.

Coalescing of QUIC packets is a feature specific to v1, entities that operate without the knowledge of the connection (e.g., load balancers, datagram dispatchers) are not expected to consult the CID values of QUIC packets that are appended. Therefore, what we are talking here does not affect what we can do in the future.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -6369,14 +6369,17 @@ endpoints that share a static key for stateless reset (see {{reset-token}}) MUST
 be arranged so that packets with a given connection ID always arrive at an
 instance that has connection state, unless that connection is no longer active.
 
+More generally, servers MUST NOT generate a stateless reset if a connection with

The following paragraph is a bit misleading in case of 5-tuple load balancers. It is talking about routing of "the packet". The specific packet might have a fixed routing due to its 5-tuple. An attacker can rewrite the packet's source address to replace it with its own, causing the forged packet to be routed to a different server. What matters is a possibility that routing of packets with this CID -- can their routing be affected by the attacker?

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----==_mimepart_5f0be66e15227_172d3fbb886cd968809889-- From nobody Sun Jul 12 21:49:57 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A52C3A0D34 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:49:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.428 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.428 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=1.629, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L3jWmWjnUYQn for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DF8C3A0DA8 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.84]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE471282B17 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:49:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594615783; bh=Qq5sy8PIokyDFuxHF/+8LWknJERi7xINN5QJ5y1LVZI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mMdpuADfeWZwfbkVH45FASO5Srqg2tIOWIWMROlHMi6NMa0O/1ntrOepER/SvwT88 ebRWuhBlcS2OBiUGRF2LCn3HA3aQmugn/rU48XvQFtms+NKSfGmZtQHfoy0lzeishi kDjsrTwQvMNF9jXz1z7r+MVWcPpJdjqGlsWjwCmE= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 21:49:43 -0700 From: Kazu Yamamoto Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Unifying words in recovery draft (#3893) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0be7e7af771_69bf3fb1622cd9602346ac"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazu-yamamoto X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 04:49:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0be7e7af771_69bf3fb1622cd9602346ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have dropped the commit of "in flight". -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3893#issuecomment-657356123 ----==_mimepart_5f0be7e7af771_69bf3fb1622cd9602346ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I have dropped the commit of "in flight".

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I also changed # into //.

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If the first sample overwrites the initial value, I think that the initial value is meaningless. 500ms vs 333ms does not matter, I guess. But I admit that min_rtt should be overwritten because the initial value is meaningless.

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Request Cancellation and Rejection

  1. it better be clarify Implementation means Client/Server or both.

When the client aborts reading a response, it indicates that this response is no longer of interest. Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by abruptly terminating any directions of a stream that are still open.

  1. there are some of similar terms
  • reset
  • cancel
  • reject
  • abort
  • (abruptly) terminate

it seems better to make them more clarify what each of them describes and how they can be done.

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----==_mimepart_5f0bf05656f0f_1d4a3fafbeecd9681242117-- From nobody Sun Jul 12 22:27:36 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6175C3A0D25 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:27:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.153 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.153 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.048, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MPVzF1i4uAYX for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 332C63A0D26 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-fb56993.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-fb56993.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.31]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AEF520783 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:27:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594618053; bh=3cmf0hvls9tQjkgKfpZ2XLvrVk3XUW6cj1tEqopvhCw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mpAxBk8p4WtFVMxuX3AsGMkOspKB+BCxpfaD7NywAoT6KjLqVh/MHPruw4c2ObOew Rda9hOHCPMrDjNsLeAWbqsz3cRbZS9HIlf9qKf7pdzuLq5voM2e+SmL8f6XTF24nUV GgVOadsvTEYLYobTj530VMLoe1XKXHbpxmewGEmc= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:27:33 -0700 From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Coalescing different CIDs for same connection (#3800) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0bf0c5236cb_291a3fc942ecd95c1889860"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 05:27:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0bf0c5236cb_291a3fc942ecd95c1889860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That argument was based on the thought that it will be easier in a future QUIC version because the diff to v1 would be smaller. My main point is that this change is unnecessary because when endpoints change connection IDs, they change it for all packer types at the same time. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3800#issuecomment-657366298 ----==_mimepart_5f0bf0c5236cb_291a3fc942ecd95c1889860 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

That argument was based on the thought that it will be easier in a future QUIC version because the diff to v1 would be smaller.

My main point is that this change is unnecessary because when endpoints change connection IDs, they change it for all packer types at the same time.

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@marten-seemann Thank you for the clarification.

My main point is that this change is unnecessary because when endpoints change connection IDs, they change it for all packer types at the same time.

I think I do not agree to this, too. IIUC, the consensus we reached with #3438 was that the CID of a Handshake packet and that of the 1-RTT packet can be different. While it is true that the initial DCID set by the client is expected to change when the client receives the first "active" connection ID supplied by the server, the fact does not mean that the CIDs of all QUIC packets within a datagram has to be the same in all the cases.

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While I had the context paged in, I wrote up https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pardue-alt-svc-ext-unsupported/. Closing this issue.

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----==_mimepart_5f0c6c0b6bf46_710d3ff36d8cd96c270481e-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 07:30:56 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8953A12CA for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 07:30:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.697 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.697 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Eo2ZpKr62mRY for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 07:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B4803A12E0 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 07:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.55]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D360A1EAC for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 07:30:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594650630; bh=IPYVW99oEMOI1USGFzgY7wcTX37rS946lgCrH4PiX4k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HE76yM6FI4KxwHSTRuGfHsr69Z0CW6ejvHUkybJ/OfvkvXtckaUU4pwkvQvjjf0FD Pxs8IlaDkGTnzNmGir9fhPjqYXWbqXDFhjJEAweA9CfphLwlamU1B2o5q6EnrZ6Mhf zBOoOPV3255AtW6l3ENvoSmpIi5LQiVtjro9CTkk= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 07:30:30 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add a Scope section to invariants (#3787) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0c70064ea31_1c93fcaa6ccd96c120587e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 14:30:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0c70064ea31_1c93fcaa6ccd96c120587e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett approved this pull request. I'm ok with this, but two suggestions. > @@ -112,6 +112,23 @@ endpoints use QUIC packets to establish a QUIC connection, which is shared protocol state between those endpoints. +# Scope + +To the extent that other entities are able to participate in communication +between QUIC endpoints, a goal of the QUIC design is to provide technical +measures that prevent interaction with a QUIC connection by entities other than ```suggestion measures that limit interaction with a QUIC connection by entities other than ``` > +To the extent that other entities are able to participate in communication +between QUIC endpoints, a goal of the QUIC design is to provide technical ```suggestion A goal of the QUIC design is to provide technical ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3787#pullrequestreview-447303867 ----==_mimepart_5f0c70064ea31_1c93fcaa6ccd96c120587e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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This is a small tweak of Gorry's suggestion.

Fixes #3885

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3896

Commit Summary

  • Gorry's suggestion on asymmetric links

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I'm still happy with the existing text, FWIW. I think it captures the important points.

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Thanks @igorlord that sounds like a fairly pragmatic way forward and makes doing nothing a more palatable option to me. But I'm also fine to properly fix this and add a bool given the tiny behavior change. But I'd like to do something(or nothing) soon.

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Some suggestions, but LG. > @@ -124,10 +124,54 @@ provides: * Authenticated and encrypted header and payload -QUIC uses UDP as a substrate to avoid requiring changes to legacy client -operating systems and middleboxes. QUIC authenticates all of its headers and -encrypts most of the data it exchanges, including its signaling, to avoid -incurring a dependency on middleboxes. +QUIC establishes a connection, which is a stateful interaction between a client +and server. The primary purpose of a connection is to support the exchange of +data by an application protocol. + +Streams ({{streams}}) are the primary means by which an application protocol Saying 'primary' seems odd given there's no other option in v1. You could say "Streams are the only means by which an application protocol exchange information in this version of QUIC." > +unidirectional streams allow a single endpoint to send. Endpoints can create +streams without prior negotiation. A credit-based scheme is used to limit I'd drop this sentence, since one could consider the stream limit TPs 'negotiation'. ```suggestion unidirectional streams allow a single endpoint to send. A credit-based scheme is used to limit ``` > +Frames are used in QUIC to communicate between endpoints. Multiple frames are +assembled into packets. QUIC authenticates all packets and encrypts as much as ```suggestion Frames are used in QUIC to communicate between endpoints. One or more frames can be sent in a single QUIC packet. QUIC authenticates all packets and encrypts as much as ``` > @@ -124,10 +124,54 @@ provides: * Authenticated and encrypted header and payload -QUIC uses UDP as a substrate to avoid requiring changes to legacy client -operating systems and middleboxes. QUIC authenticates all of its headers and -encrypts most of the data it exchanges, including its signaling, to avoid -incurring a dependency on middleboxes. +QUIC establishes a connection, which is a stateful interaction between a client +and server. The primary purpose of a connection is to support the exchange of +data by an application protocol. + +Streams ({{streams}}) are the primary means by which an application protocol Streams is the only reference in this section, so I'd be inclined to drop it given it's referenced in "Life of a QUIC connection"? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3858#pullrequestreview-447370880 ----==_mimepart_5f0c82907afee_34a03f89630cd95c31693cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Some suggestions, but LG.

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Saying 'primary' seems odd given there's no other option in v1.

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I'd drop this sentence, since one could consider the stream limit TPs = 'negotiation'.

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5f0c82907afee_34a03f89630cd95c31693cc-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 09:01:47 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CB13A13D6 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 09:01:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V3ziZa2_VW-b for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 09:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-9.smtp.github.com (out-9.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DBDE3A13CD for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 09:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.108.24]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B092261565 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 09:01:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594656103; bh=xqDzlUj3+WwwhEaJYK6VU+p3a5Ai927SO8N7DrdgT7s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MzEi8CYa6wmfHjI90yL/KCiHwwjYiNVYjiUqY6Azgh1sVmGP93IZprGkvv/h2byCB +nIRoulby/DjFkBR3AMIaTdSAcU7NrrbxeCcCZUc/fcj/+u4A0qi3E4AhodIn8GRXu uo6jltDnU9SaWssktPO+TwfvW4F/V5Pawp8tFicI= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 09:01:43 -0700 From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] disable_active_migration with SPA (#3765) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0c856733d5f_43233fa3a32cd964696832"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:01:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0c856733d5f_43233fa3a32cd964696832 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > But I'm also fine to properly fix this and add a bool given the tiny behavior change Would someone like to prepare a PR so that the WG can get a feel for what this looks like? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3765#issuecomment-657646053 ----==_mimepart_5f0c856733d5f_43233fa3a32cd964696832 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

But I'm also fine to properly fix this and add a bool given the tiny behavior change

Would someone like to prepare a PR so that the WG can get a feel for what this looks like?

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I keep re-reading this, and I don't see any conflict of C with A, but I can create an editorial PR to reduce the likelihood of someone reading "new data MUST be sent" into A.

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Fixes #3780 From nobody Mon Jul 13 09:08:16 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449B33A1418 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 09:08:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8t9jFHr3RCvj for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 09:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93EA33A1445 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 09:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.16.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF061A101E for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 09:07:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594656469; bh=3wDOtQzzANsGHHE0uEbySlIZ5aPjh41Gm9o5/RP62Es=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cCKLfKDQf48KtB/8IQOuFw0gZweY8MLPpIiTTXLfzGVXcpwGmuM62jV+zEuYQYThI rUjvRWquOTmG9kzi9a4sklY8QM1o1ssDVWczms1EeUhVUkDrB+Jl9d99zY4UsWvsZp 1vR2GZmPzWWQuvMEmPkX9sljbCD86g6Zijc81puo= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 09:07:49 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify what should be sent on PTO (#3897) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0c86d5b0e0e_781d3fd31eacd95c365931b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:08:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0c86d5b0e0e_781d3fd31eacd95c365931b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think this is clearer, but maybe there's a larger change people would like. 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I think this is clearer, but maybe there's a larger change people would like.

Fixes #3780

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3897

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  • Clarify what should be sent on PTO

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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

LGTM, one suggestion.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3187,8 +3187,9 @@ Coalescing packets in order of increasing encryption levels (Initial, 0-RTT,
 Handshake, 1-RTT; see Section 4.1.4 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) makes it more likely the
 receiver will be able to process all the packets in a single pass. A packet
 with a short header does not include a length, so it can only be the last
-packet included in a UDP datagram. An endpoint SHOULD NOT coalesce multiple
-packets at the same encryption level.
+packet included in a UDP datagram. An endpoint SHOULD include multiple frames in
+a single packet rather than coalesce multiple packets at the same encryption

Perhaps the following reword: "An endpoint SHOULD include multiple frames in a single packet if they are to be sent at the same encryption level, instead of coalescing multiple packets at the same encryption level." ?

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Effective NAT traversal needs additional synchronization mechanisms that are not provided here. -An endpoint MAY bundle PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames that are used for -path validation with other frames. In particular, an endpoint may pad a packet -carrying a PATH_CHALLENGE for PMTU discovery, or an endpoint may bundle a -PATH_RESPONSE with its own PATH_CHALLENGE. +An endpoint MAY bundle PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames that are used +for path validation with other frames. In particular, an endpoint may pad a +packet carrying a PATH_CHALLENGE for Path Maximum Transfer Unit (PMTU) Is it worth adding a reference to the PMTU section here? > validation until after a peer sends the next non-probing frame to its new address. +Path validation is necessary verify reachability of a peer on a new network ```suggestion Path validation is necessary to verify reachability of a peer on a new network ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I believe #3793 addresses the issue and long ago we agreed not to document an exact algorithm.

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I think we need to make a change, in one direction or the other. It's unfortunate to mix CIDs, since it clearly links them to any observer, but doesn't seem like a big deal. For some implementations, it sounds like it's a big deal to avoid mixing them. Therefore, while I'm content with either resolution, it seems like it makes more sense to resolve toward being more permissive; e.g. #3870.

Mixing packets from different connections seems like a generally bad idea, since it assumes an implementation structure on the far end for it to work. The more likely outcome is that coalesced packets from other connections will simply be dropped as invalid. (Of course, this very property could be used for padding / misleading observers.)

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I actually wasn't sure what you meant before, but this is what I assumed.

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=0D wrote:
=0D
=0D > I think we need to make *a* change, in one direction or the other. I= t's
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=0D Can you say more about why you don't see this as an issue? Is it bec= ause
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=0D > For some implementations, it sounds like it's a big deal to avoi= d mixing
=0D > them. Therefore, while I'm content with either resolution, it se= ems like it
=0D > makes more sense to resolve toward being more permissive; e.g. #3870=
=0D > <https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3870>.
=0D >
=0D > Mixing packets from different connections seems like a generally bad= idea,
=0D > since it assumes an implementation structure on the far end for it t= o work.
=0D > The more likely outcome is that coalesced packets from other connect= ions
=0D > will simply be dropped as invalid. (Of course, this very property co= uld be
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"Implementations," throughout the document, refers to both clients and servers. Do you have a suggested place to clarify this?

It looks like "abort" is used with relatively little context -- I'll try to clean that up a bit. It's intended to refer to "abort reading," another operation in Section 2.4 of QUIC-TRANSPORT.

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Some implementations try to change the CID as soon as possible, to avoid linking 1RTT traffic with the CID visible during the handshake and to improve privacy. There will be a brief window when they still need to send both some handshake packets and some 1RTT packets. But coalescing a Handshake packet with the old CID and a 1RTT packet with the new CID links old and new CID and thus negates the effort.

And just in case someone asks, no, you don't really need to decrypt the packets to access the second CID. You just need the coalesced packet and another 1RTT packet. Not hard.

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(Built on top of #3807 to align with that change. Retarget PR before merging.) You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3898 -- Commit Summary -- * Disable Migration field -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (35) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3898.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3898.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3898 ----==_mimepart_5f0ccc1a2cd6b_8ff3f8f448cd96851024f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #3765.

(Built on top of #3807 to align with that change. Retarget PR before merging.)

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3898

Commit Summary

  • Disable Migration field

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#3898 is a first pass at this.

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Thank you for working on the PR. I like the idea of adding a field to the SPA transport parameter. Looks good modulo the point below. > @@ -2178,12 +2180,16 @@ before the handshake is confirmed, as defined in section 4.1.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. If the peer sent the disable_active_migration transport parameter, an endpoint also MUST NOT send packets (including probing packets; see {{probing}}) from a -different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. An -endpoint that has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has -nonetheless migrated to a different remote address MUST either drop the incoming -packets on that path without generating a stateless reset or proceed with path -validation and allow the peer to migrate. Generating a stateless reset or -closing the connection would allow third parties in the network to cause +different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. If +the server sets the Disable Migration field in the preferred_address transport +parameter, the client MUST NOT send packets from a different local address to +the server's preferred address. I think it might make sense to drop this MUST NOT as a whole: * What if SPA includes an address of a different address family than the original address? The client has to use a different local address. * A QUIC stack might be letting the operating system select the outgoing address, by skipping the call to `bind`, and letting `connect` select the *source* address. I do not think we'd want to forbid such QUIC stacks not supporting SPA. FWIW, I do not think there is a big problem in client switching to a different address when migrating the preferred address with migration disabled. If the path is established, then there's no problem. If the path fails to establish, endpoints can continue talking on the original path. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Thank you for working on the PR. I like the idea of adding a field to the SPA transport parameter. Looks good modulo the point below.

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> @@ -2178,12 +2180,16 @@ before the handshake is confirmed, as defined in section 4.1.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.
 
 If the peer sent the disable_active_migration transport parameter, an endpoint
 also MUST NOT send packets (including probing packets; see {{probing}}) from a
-different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. An
-endpoint that has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has
-nonetheless migrated to a different remote address MUST either drop the incoming
-packets on that path without generating a stateless reset or proceed with path
-validation and allow the peer to migrate. Generating a stateless reset or
-closing the connection would allow third parties in the network to cause
+different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. If
+the server sets the Disable Migration field in the preferred_address transport
+parameter, the client MUST NOT send packets from a different local address to
+the server's preferred address.

I think it might make sense to drop this MUST NOT as a whole:

  • What if SPA includes an address of a different address family than the original address? The client has to use a different local address.
  • A QUIC stack might be letting the operating system select the outgoing address, by skipping the call to bind, and letting connect select the source address. I do not think we'd want to forbid such QUIC stacks not supporting SPA.

FWIW, I do not think there is a big problem in client switching to a different address when migrating the preferred address with migration disabled. If the path is established, then there's no problem. If the path fails to establish, endpoints can continue talking on the original path.

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----==_mimepart_5f0cd8eba8590_8673f8f448cd9687405f1-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 15:42:24 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AF63A0C95 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 15:42:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NIIVL_jXuiag for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 15:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-9.smtp.github.com (out-9.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BAE73A09E9 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 15:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-39ac79b.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-39ac79b.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.15]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC44326183F for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 15:42:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594680135; bh=VBaqhX5wlHgIgurI4BXWG9VnWoLnUFH0BzhKubFmdoU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Av9ssV0OCGbdlaTV/vgJdN31IGQ24Ex2eWzrXplo7ZtoRk5IUdG2jCj5DW3FnYYf4 /VCILP2ljHz/GPJilEMnKs67iWC5ikdUARfLvEBf6tJyDA+ZEu2vzr4vIWN/+RMnV2 eBFgI0kBTZvFxwjsDMV+TxVj46DN/tE0JVjh7bWc= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 15:42:15 -0700 From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] disable_active_migration with SPA (#3765) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0ce34796cba_74253fa54fecd964113448"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 22:42:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0ce34796cba_74253fa54fecd964113448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At first glance #3898 seemed a bit backwards to me in terms of which "disable" bit applied to which address, but upon thinking it through I think it's the only way to handle if -- if we want to handle it. Trying to put that thinking into words below. Moving to the preferred address is essentially a migration, but of the server. Instead of trying to send packets directly to the client from a different server address (a naive form of "server migration"), we just tell the client, "please switch over here". In doing so, as @kazuho pointed out on the PR (#3898), the server has the opportunity to offer other address families, and a CID to use on the new address. We don't want to restrict the client from being able to connect to the preferred address with a different address family on the client. --- _Example, feel free to skip ahead_ 1. Client connects from v6 source address to v6 destination address 2. Server gives preferred v4 address + CID 3. Client connects from v4 source address to new v4 destination address If you had NAT64, you could take an extra hop to the NAT64 box to keep using your original v6 source address, but we've got plenty of data showing that a "native" v6 or v4 connection is going to be much happier there. --- This is great, since we use connection IDs instead of addresses, and we're giving the client at least one connection ID to use with the new server (we've already discussed the concerns about the rest of the CID pool and kept those out of QUICv1, I think that likely remains reasonable regardless of what we do here). This means that the packets which go to the preferred address are likely to get there since they're routed via a CID that was selected by the server handing out the SPA. However, one of the reasons that you might want to use disable_active_migration is if you're bad at connection IDs, and instead need to prevent the client from changing addresses. This is now awkward because we can't really assume both things are true at the same time. *It would be great to get some concrete examples of how things could go wrong if you allow the client to change source address when sending packets to the preferred address.* We specified in #3670 when fixing #3608 that `disable_active_migration` only applied to the address used during the handshake, in part via the thinking that if you're migrating to a new address, that has to be able to handle such a client address change when the client switches and therefore must be okay with at least one migration. Then, we've got what #3898 does, which is add a new bit you can set to say "please don't migrate after you get to the preferred address", which seems quite reasonable, if we think that there's a situation where a server can handle that "first" migration but then somehow not handle the rest. @janaiyengar made the comment (which I linked below) on #3608 that: > This conversation has made it clear to me that an address, and not a server, is the thing that supports client migration. Which makes sense -- migration support at the server is entirely a question of routability, and it makes sense that it would be tied to the address in question and not the endpoint. Which I think makes a lot of sense, so if we choose to move ahead with providing this here instead of via an extension, #3898 should probably give a separate flag for each address. --- So, to summarize, it seems like we'd want the following things: - Some concrete examples of how a server might not be able to handle that local address change when the client moves to the SPA address. If that's going to be a problem we should discuss it here rather than half-fix this again. - A reason to reevaluate the consensus we reached for #3608. The original issue above is: > For example, a server is a backend in front of a load balancer (and hence wants to use a preferred address that does not go via the load balancer for improved performance and reliability). However, the server is in a network location that is unlikely to be accessible or be a logical choice when changing to a different network attachment provider. This doesn't seem to be a reason to set `disable_active_migration` -- not all migrations need to be to a different network attachment and if you take the most common case of this, a CDN node embedded within an ISP's network that isn't accessible from other networks, then the client can happily migrate all it wants within that ISP's network. If it tries to probe (or even migrate if there are no other options) from a different network attachment, then it will simply see the server as not accessible. Disabling active migration here would likely be harmful to the client but provide little benefit to either the client or the server. Further along in [@janaiyengar's comment](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3608#issuecomment-631095059) on #3608 that described much of the path forward that was taken: > So if we were to do anything, I think I would propose: > scoping disable_active_migration to the handshake address, and adding two disable_active_migration flags to the preferred_address TP, for the two addresses in the TP. That said, this is a clean enough extension. A new extension can define a new TP that provides this granular interpretation of the three server addresses. A server that wishes to support this can send both the SPA and this newSPA TPs, with the SPA TP (with the current scoping of disable_active_migration applying to all server addresses) providing cover for legacy clients. > Also I expect that clients are likely to switch to using the SPA if provided. A server that has different routability properties for the two addresses can wait for some deployment and make decisions on whether to risk allowing migration based on data of what it sees as client behavior with SPA. > I would argue for doing nothing now. Experience will teach us the right way forward. If necessary, this extension will be easy enough to do, and importantly, the current interpretation of disable_active_migration gives us the right kind of cover in the meantime. Since this doesn't seem to be a case where we would be deficient without specifying this, and it would be easy enough to do in an extension, is there any case where we _do_ need it and can't do it as an extension? All that said, since this keeps coming up, it does seem that completeness would suggest that we'd want a way to set `disable_active_migration` for each address that the server has, in which case I think we can modify #3898 to get there. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3765#issuecomment-657832215 ----==_mimepart_5f0ce34796cba_74253fa54fecd964113448 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

At first glance #3898 seemed a bit backwards to me in terms of which "= disable" bit applied to which address, but upon thinking it through I thi= nk it's the only way to handle if -- if we want to handle it. Trying to p= ut that thinking into words below.

Moving to the preferred address is essentially a migration, but of the= server. Instead of trying to send packets directly to the client from a = different server address (a naive form of "server migration"), we just te= ll the client, "please switch over here".

In doing so, as @kazuho pointed out on the PR (#3898), the server = has the opportunity to offer other address families, and a CID to use on = the new address. We don't want to restrict the client from being able to = connect to the preferred address with a different address family on the c= lient.

Example, feel free to skip ahead

  1. Client connects from v6 source address to v6 destination address
    2. =
  2. Server gives preferred v4 address + CID
  3. Client connects from v4 source address to new v4 destination address<= /li>

If you had NAT64, you could take an extra hop to the NAT64 box to keep= using your original v6 source address, but we've got plenty of data show= ing that a "native" v6 or v4 connection is going to be much happier there= .

This is great, since we use connection IDs instead of addresses, and w= e're giving the client at least one connection ID to use with the new ser= ver (we've already discussed the concerns about the rest of the CID pool = and kept those out of QUICv1, I think that likely remains reasonable rega= rdless of what we do here). This means that the packets which go to the p= referred address are likely to get there since they're routed via a CID t= hat was selected by the server handing out the SPA.

However, one of the reasons that you might want to use disable_active_= migration is if you're bad at connection IDs, and instead need to prevent= the client from changing addresses.
This is now awkward because we can't really assume both things are true a= t the same time.

It would be great to get some concrete examples of how things coul= d go wrong if you allow the client to change source address when sending = packets to the preferred address.

We specified in #3670 when fixing #3608 that disable_active_migrati= on only applied to the address used during the handshake, in part = via the thinking that if you're migrating to a new address, that has to b= e able to handle such a client address change when the client switches an= d therefore must be okay with at least one migration.

Then, we've got what #3898 does, which is add a new bit you can set to= say "please don't migrate after you get to the preferred address", which= seems quite reasonable, if we think that there's a situation where a ser= ver can handle that "first" migration but then somehow not handle the res= t.

@janaiyengar made the comment (which I linked below) on <= a class=3D"issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text=3D"Failed to load ti= tle" data-id=3D"609163676" data-permission-text=3D"Title is private" data= -url=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3608" data-hovercard= -type=3D"issue" data-hovercard-url=3D"/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3608/hov= ercard" href=3D"https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3608">#3608<= /a> that:

This conversation has made it clear to me that an address, and not a s= erver, is the thing that supports client migration. Which makes sense -- = migration support at the server is entirely a question of routability, an= d it makes sense that it would be tied to the address in question and not= the endpoint.

Which I think makes a lot of sense, so if we choose to move ahead with= providing this here instead of via an extension, #3898 should probably= give a separate flag for each address.

So, to summarize, it seems like we'd want the following things:

  • Some concrete examples of how a server might not be able to handle tha= t local address change when the client moves to the SPA address. If that'= s going to be a problem we should discuss it here rather than half-fix th= is again.

  • A reason to reevaluate the consensus we reached for #3608.

The original issue above is:

For example, a server is a backend in front of a load balancer (and he= nce wants to use a preferred address that does not go via the load balanc= er for improved performance and reliability). However, the server is in a= network location that is unlikely to be accessible or be a logical choic= e when changing to a different network attachment provider.

This doesn't seem to be a reason to set disable_active_migration= -- not all migrations need to be to a different network attachmen= t and if you take the most common case of this, a CDN node embedded withi= n an ISP's network that isn't accessible from other networks, then the cl= ient can happily migrate all it wants within that ISP's network. If it tr= ies to probe (or even migrate if there are no other options) from a diffe= rent network attachment, then it will simply see the server as not access= ible.

Disabling active migration here would likely be harmful to the client = but provide little benefit to either the client or the server.

Further along in @janaiyengar's comm= ent on #3608 that described much of the path forward that was taken:

So if we were to do anything, I think I would propose:
scoping disable_active_migration to the handshake address, and
adding two disable_active_migration flags to the preferred_address TP, fo= r the two addresses in the TP.
That said, this is a clean enough extension. A new extension can define a= new TP that provides this granular interpretation of the three server ad= dresses. A server that wishes to support this can send both the SPA and t= his newSPA TPs, with the SPA TP (with the current scoping of disable_acti= ve_migration applying to all server addresses) providing cover for legacy= clients.

Also I expect that clients are likely to switch to using the SPA if pr= ovided. A server that has different routability properties for the two ad= dresses can wait for some deployment and make decisions on whether to ris= k allowing migration based on data of what it sees as client behavior wit= h SPA.

I would argue for doing nothing now. Experience will teach us the righ= t way forward. If necessary, this extension will be easy enough to do, an= d importantly, the current interpretation of disable_active_migration giv= es us the right kind of cover in the meantime.

Since this doesn't seem to be a case where we would be deficient witho= ut specifying this, and it would be easy enough to do in an extension, is= there any case where we do need it and can't do it as an extens= ion?

All that said, since this keeps coming up, it does seem that completen= ess would suggest that we'd want a way to set disable_active_migrat= ion for each address that the server has, in which case I think we= can modify #3898 to get there.

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@marten-seemann suggested that it should only be a FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR, as it's invalid to send a MAX_STREAMS larger than 2^60 under any circumstance, regardless of connection state, and I agree that's the clearest application of our principles.

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+1 to the view that "disable_(active_)migration" is a property of each address, not the server itself. Therefore, if we are to make a change, that should come as a flag that designates that the address(es) offered by SPA cannot handle migration.

If we are to define such a flag in QUIC v2, I'd assume that it would make sense to define that flag as a new Transport Parameter that changes the definition of the preferred_address Transport Parameter.

OTOH, if we are to define such a flag in QUIC v1, it makes more sense to embed the flag in the preferred_address Transport Parameter, because, as stated, it is a property of the address being offered by the preferred_address Transport Parameter. This is what #3898 does, and I think it is on the right track (assuming that we'd be fixing the issue in QUIC v1).

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If the peer sent the disable_active_migration transport parameter, an endpoint also MUST NOT send packets (including probing packets; see {{probing}}) from a -different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. An -endpoint that has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has -nonetheless migrated to a different remote address MUST either drop the incoming -packets on that path without generating a stateless reset or proceed with path -validation and allow the peer to migrate. Generating a stateless reset or -closing the connection would allow third parties in the network to cause +different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. If +the server sets the Disable Migration field in the preferred_address transport +parameter, the client MUST NOT send packets from a different local address to +the server's preferred address. @kazuho, it is a good point about a different address family. > * What if SPA includes an address of a different address family than the original address? The client has to use a different local address. If a server does not want client to change addresses, which it must do, if changing IP families, it will just not supply the alternative IP family SPA, so the Disable Migration flag can apply only to the same family as the handshake address. Or each family may get its own flag, which increases flexibility. > * A QUIC stack might be letting the operating system select the source address, by skipping the call to bind, and letting connect select that address. I do not think we'd want to forbid such QUIC stacks not supporting SPA. First, it is only SPAs with Disable Migration flag that are at issue here. In any case, I am ok with all s/MUST/SHOULD/g in regard to disabling migration, since unintentional migration happens, which can lead to poor performance for the client. In case of the client that does not bind, Disable Migration is a hint, and the client can always try harder to follow it, since it is in its interests. That client can, for example, actually bind another socket to the address selected by the kernel and use that socket for the subsequent communication w/ the server. > FWIW, I do not think there is a big problem in client switching to a different address when migrating the preferred address with migration disabled. If the path is established, then there's no problem. If the path fails to establish, endpoints can continue talking on the original path. It is a problem (big or small is for the client to decide), if the server is chosen based on the client's original network attachment, and the client decides to migrate to a network provider that is inappropriate for the chosen server (during SPA migrations or not). If the client tries, and the path fails to establish, the client wasted an rtt or possibly some timeout. Or the path may actually get established, but the performance will be poor. The client is better off quickly re-establishing a new connection. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3898#discussion_r454002904 ----==_mimepart_5f0ced737897c_7a703fe2ebecd96c10010c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2178,12 +2180,16 @@ before the handshake is confirmed, as defined in section 4.1.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.
 
 If the peer sent the disable_active_migration transport parameter, an endpoint
 also MUST NOT send packets (including probing packets; see {{probing}}) from a
-different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. An
-endpoint that has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has
-nonetheless migrated to a different remote address MUST either drop the incoming
-packets on that path without generating a stateless reset or proceed with path
-validation and allow the peer to migrate. Generating a stateless reset or
-closing the connection would allow third parties in the network to cause
+different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. If
+the server sets the Disable Migration field in the preferred_address transport
+parameter, the client MUST NOT send packets from a different local address to
+the server's preferred address.

@kazuho, it is a good point about a different address family.

  • What if SPA includes an address of a different address family than the original address? The client has to use a different local address.

If a server does not want client to change addresses, which it must do, if changing IP families, it will just not supply the alternative IP family SPA, so the Disable Migration flag can apply only to the same family as the handshake address. Or each family may get its own flag, which increases flexibility.

  • A QUIC stack might be letting the operating system select the source address, by skipping the call to bind, and letting connect select that address. I do not think we'd want to forbid such QUIC stacks not supporting SPA.

First, it is only SPAs with Disable Migration flag that are at issue here. In any case, I am ok with all s/MUST/SHOULD/g in regard to disabling migration, since unintentional migration happens, which can lead to poor performance for the client. In case of the client that does not bind, Disable Migration is a hint, and the client can always try harder to follow it, since it is in its interests. That client can, for example, actually bind another socket to the address selected by the kernel and use that socket for the subsequent communication w/ the server.

FWIW, I do not think there is a big problem in client switching to a different address when migrating the preferred address with migration disabled. If the path is established, then there's no problem. If the path fails to establish, endpoints can continue talking on the original path.

It is a problem (big or small is for the client to decide), if the server is chosen based on the client's original network attachment, and the client decides to migrate to a network provider that is inappropriate for the chosen server (during SPA migrations or not). If the client tries, and the path fails to establish, the client wasted an rtt or possibly some timeout. Or the path may actually get established, but the performance will be poor. The client is better off quickly re-establishing a new connection.

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----==_mimepart_5f0ced737897c_7a703fe2ebecd96c10010c1-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 16:29:04 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9828E3A07E8 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:29:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gs9WCNuBYC2i for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E6403A07C5 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.92]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447496604F8 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:29:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594682941; bh=5PRtf3IrjFxC/2CyNzlM86JDd62m+2TMNBTjOmpw/I8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=gsJJaZoj4OpnNVUBRWa5bjjTUpO/KP+au0hyo+32p+UGVCWp2tJkCSBVKrbe2HnbR JpY6n3AOPD7ieSsKHUYnfe+wbNEk84wZXND46BNXibRTOn5HSOI4lxWsfRF1RopV3V MW8CTG9TVMzRj6DF1LCSiqT+4DbfJdZS6IvX5OL8= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:29:01 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Minor inconsistency of error when MAX_STREAMS exceeds 2^60 (#3781) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0cee3d34171_21ca3fceb44cd96c3934da"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:29:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0cee3d34171_21ca3fceb44cd96c3934da Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree that requiring the use of FRAME_ENOCDING_ERROR is fine. Even though we occasionally allow an endpoint to use multiple error codes when there is more than one way of checking the status (i.e. FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR vs. FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR for STREAM frames), the check required in this particular case is purely unrelated to the connection state. Hence my +1. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3781#issuecomment-657874412 ----==_mimepart_5f0cee3d34171_21ca3fceb44cd96c3934da Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree that requiring the use of FRAME_ENOCDING_ERROR is fine.

Even though we occasionally allow an endpoint to use multiple error codes when there is more than one way of checking the status (i.e. FLOW_CONTROL_ERROR vs. FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR for STREAM frames), the check required in this particular case is purely unrelated to the connection state. Hence my +1.

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----==_mimepart_5f0cee3d34171_21ca3fceb44cd96c3934da-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 16:40:11 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841E73A0797 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:40:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BEE3uZwj-8ki for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C0683A07AC for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.110.15]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F408C034A for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:40:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594683603; bh=ioO0Xus+pJrPeZlzeusaJ9C1rzUgA0HAAkwK7et+r2s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NqTVGzdld24x48Eynm5gYze14RAxanF+OaiJSD7fM57mtLet9IMvQd7Ca8oUN+0U6 +OlWvRn4hh6s4TmdB/4mllNmbTieMH66vIHipIoxhk5Fa7rbMGfDKJfrqHOrmfy1yW lgUt76qJLJ6i6zgWgQoZKQ1NyMGpA5aV4CEP2Jc0= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:40:03 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Coalescing different CIDs for same connection (#3800) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0cf0d352b8b_54633fce37acd95c1003416"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:40:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0cf0d352b8b_54633fce37acd95c1003416 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @huitema If that is the concern, would it be better for endpoints to migrate to a new CID after learning that the peer has dropped the Handshake keys? If an endpoint switches to the new CID before the handshake keys are dropped by the peer, there's chance that the peer might use a new CID in the Handshake packets that the peer sends. That at least leaks *when* the connection was established for that CID. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3800#issuecomment-657877461 ----==_mimepart_5f0cf0d352b8b_54633fce37acd95c1003416 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@huitema If that is the concern, would it be better for endpoints to migrate to a new CID after learning that the peer has dropped the Handshake keys?

If an endpoint switches to the new CID before the handshake keys are dropped by the peer, there's chance that the peer might use a new CID in the Handshake packets that the peer sends. That at least leaks when the connection was established for that CID.

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----==_mimepart_5f0cf0d352b8b_54633fce37acd95c1003416-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 16:58:10 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6952C3A0800 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:58:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nkOH4UUBH4EP for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD5F33A0968 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.25.48]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA32E8C0B57 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:57:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594684644; bh=A5hREEZtUSSFDjEnXk+J69jn9Pn7gMgcxh7fK1WReL8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=m0oOnYeVd5C/PpZZ9RSJ7vATv3avZe6tscmYB3J+DabnJkOaQT7Jt3/n37exgG+ZS /WF/uxtoAFPRYRPOCkbg0kHVupxvvUzYdYUY4V3uOeAXy4pREAZ1p13kSYEG9rsVG9 YYeqTzx/1afzSjIr7pkauzjv6PftmvqO+k+ZiPnM= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:57:24 -0700 From: Kazu Yamamoto Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Inconsistency about persistent congestion in recovery draft (#3899) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0cf4e4d2e5b_104c3fd6570cd95c13146d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazu-yamamoto X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:58:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0cf4e4d2e5b_104c3fd6570cd95c13146d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In Sec 7.8, the duration of persistent congestion is defined as follows: ``` (smoothed_rtt + 4 * rttvar + max_ack_delay) * kPersistentCongestionThreshold ``` However, the pseudo code in B.8 also uses `kGranularity`: ``` InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets): pto = smoothed_rtt + max(4 * rttvar, kGranularity) + max_ack_delay congestion_period = pto * kPersistentCongestionThreshold ``` I wonder which one is correct. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3899 ----==_mimepart_5f0cf4e4d2e5b_104c3fd6570cd95c13146d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In Sec 7.8, the duration of persistent congestion is defined as follows:

(smoothed_rtt + 4 * rttvar + max_ack_delay) * kPersistentCongestionThreshold

However, the pseudo code in B.8 also uses kGranularity:

InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):
     pto = smoothed_rtt + max(4 * rttvar, kGranularity) + max_ack_delay
     congestion_period = pto * kPersistentCongestionThreshold

I wonder which one is correct.

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----==_mimepart_5f0cf4e4d2e5b_104c3fd6570cd95c13146d-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 17:00:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8D83A097E for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:00:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rHAKz2allKct for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A25223A100D for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.20]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0688C11E2 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:59:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594684787; bh=zgSA01MfGSLh5vH+Cptp6NZYlAaDUWcoDQyMjyHkez8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WD2ixqNB1xMsIh504mbDufAQiC5Yz/AcNWGdjs+7uGsFncu8q0XBmmadQCWWUqWXL KvCQJ3JmLq0hKeSnsA5ClnPfmBxOqmojcKNS54Ab+K5gCaSpV5HLvrrffli+TKSIJV OFNRQRVCTYXt5xmjWDFsnq9fHqQao2j8VOi7Q3Dg= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:59:47 -0700 From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] disable_active_migration with SPA (#3765) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0cf573de990_33593fb6088cd9641473512"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 00:00:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0cf573de990_33593fb6088cd9641473512 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Making `disable_active_migration` a property of an address allows for a lot of flexibility to innovate with routing and load-balancing and network deployments. So +1 here. @ekinnear, > not all migrations need to be to a different network attachment Except for a change to an address in another IP family, a different network attachment is by far the most common case to actively change to another IP address. If the client knows that it is not changing the network attachment in a way that is relevant to the server, it can try to ignore the `disable_active_migration` hint on the SPA. I think it is correct to have all normative language regarding `disable_active_migration` a SHOULD, since unintentional migrations will happen. > if you take the most common case of this, a CDN node embedded within an ISP's network that isn't accessible from other networks, then the client can happily migrate all it wants within that ISP's network. If it tries to probe (or even migrate if there are no other options) from a different network attachment, then it will simply see the server as not accessible. If the CDN node is, indeed, inaccessible from outside of the network, the client would be burning an rtt (or some timeout). However, the node may actually be accessible from outside of the network, but have a poor performance from there. Theoretically, I can see a case of some large enterprise campus creating a network with dozens of access points, all acting as independent NATs, and someone running around constantly connecting and disconnecting from the APs, getting new addresses with each AP migration. But who actually builds networks like that?! It is much more likely that your address will stay with you for as long as you are connected to that network. For someone running around a large campus, getting a new address on their device will pretty much only happen when they lose WiFi and reconnect via cellular (or hop on a bus via WiFi onboard) -- neither are likely be to great for the original embedded CDN node. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Making disable_active_migration a property of an address allows for a lot of flexibility to innovate with routing and load-balancing and network deployments. So +1 here.

@ekinnear,

not all migrations need to be to a different network attachment

Except for a change to an address in another IP family, a different network attachment is by far the most common case to actively change to another IP address. If the client knows that it is not changing the network attachment in a way that is relevant to the server, it can try to ignore the disable_active_migration hint on the SPA. I think it is correct to have all normative language regarding disable_active_migration a SHOULD, since unintentional migrations will happen.

if you take the most common case of this, a CDN node embedded within an ISP's network that isn't accessible from other networks, then the client can happily migrate all it wants within that ISP's network. If it tries to probe (or even migrate if there are no other options) from a different network attachment, then it will simply see the server as not accessible.

If the CDN node is, indeed, inaccessible from outside of the network, the client would be burning an rtt (or some timeout). However, the node may actually be accessible from outside of the network, but have a poor performance from there.

Theoretically, I can see a case of some large enterprise campus creating a network with dozens of access points, all acting as independent NATs, and someone running around constantly connecting and disconnecting from the APs, getting new addresses with each AP migration. But who actually builds networks like that?! It is much more likely that your address will stay with you for as long as you are connected to that network. For someone running around a large campus, getting a new address on their device will pretty much only happen when they lose WiFi and reconnect via cellular (or hop on a bus via WiFi onboard) -- neither are likely be to great for the original embedded CDN node.

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----==_mimepart_5f0cf573de990_33593fb6088cd9641473512-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 17:13:15 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8993A0BF4 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:13:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kt2lGuluiQtG for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C4693A0BDB for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-39b4a70.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-39b4a70.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761DE6A03B3 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:13:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594685585; bh=dDf0ooYvkUQ7WmSF4WTyEsP0luViZpRzETSpUQcWeic=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=icxb58OBjBNxn0mCahXY3VwRrkUo146CPjrTLYf/xK3xuJ4q/TnvfYv0XK1Xsdc8O eockYdDWu6hIfX5EyOD1YyiCjX1J5pnnS6AK0N7YOKXDhtcqMyf1+/9UgUxEWtMa4n idpX9pkrOwvj5r9lSKgL+74uuoMpsGYmPTpF3VJI= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:13:05 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] disable_active_migration with SPA (#3765) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0cf891662f0_58d33f8f31ecd95c1105894"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 00:13:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0cf891662f0_58d33f8f31ecd95c1105894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @igorlord While I think I can follow your argument, it sounds to me that the issue you are describing is shared among all use-cases of SPA. To paraphrase, it an orthogonal problem to this issue (that is trying to solve the reachability problem of the preferred address). Assuming that is the case, I am not sure if it is a good idea to add a restriction on how clients choose the source address, specific to the "disabled_migration" field of the preferred_address transport parameter. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3765#issuecomment-657893114 ----==_mimepart_5f0cf891662f0_58d33f8f31ecd95c1105894 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@igorlord While I think I can follow your argument, it sounds to me that the issue you are describing is shared among all use-cases of SPA. To paraphrase, it an orthogonal problem to this issue (that is trying to solve the reachability problem of the preferred address).

Assuming that is the case, I am not sure if it is a good idea to add a restriction on how clients choose the source address, specific to the "disabled_migration" field of the preferred_address transport parameter.

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----==_mimepart_5f0cf891662f0_58d33f8f31ecd95c1105894-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 17:22:27 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8283A0BE6 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:22:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z5ISFyin_skp for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BF9B3A0BDB for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-b2150d3.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b2150d3.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.113.12]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E2C6A0D07 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:22:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594686143; bh=+DVK8fi9LiA1rz6qgrwXJLC/H1SLvx5GRsx5teAYLkU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NxkOGpceFpCNra4VdZYP5dpGptBTwhR9hY6XjJyyFcaDTi4kW/dY5xAr5yBjYowNV /5y2Z3aaEIGzBXYcAT3Ym5F0qQ6A/UIN9jrR0QTZrbTNJQqDXmBfTZwJNvmKhfck3W JqioSd6ulv/o2Yrrs4qoItOPTWBD5WkbPbI5At9E= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:22:23 -0700 From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Disable Migration field in SPA (#3898) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0cfabf658c8_7dd23ff321ecd96c139945d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 00:22:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0cfabf658c8_7dd23ff321ecd96c139945d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @igorlord requested changes on this pull request. We need to clarify what to do about source addresses when changing protocol families. > @@ -2178,12 +2180,16 @@ before the handshake is confirmed, as defined in section 4.1.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. If the peer sent the disable_active_migration transport parameter, an endpoint also MUST NOT send packets (including probing packets; see {{probing}}) from a -different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. An -endpoint that has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has -nonetheless migrated to a different remote address MUST either drop the incoming -packets on that path without generating a stateless reset or proceed with path -validation and allow the peer to migrate. Generating a stateless reset or -closing the connection would allow third parties in the network to cause +different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. If +the server sets the Disable Migration field in the preferred_address transport +parameter, the client MUST NOT send packets from a different local address to +the server's preferred address. You may want to specify that when Disable Migration is set, to migrate to an SPA of a different address family, the client MUST (SHOULD?) use a source address belonging to the same network attachment interface as the handshake address. > @@ -2178,12 +2180,16 @@ before the handshake is confirmed, as defined in section 4.1.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. If the peer sent the disable_active_migration transport parameter, an endpoint also MUST NOT send packets (including probing packets; see {{probing}}) from a -different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. An -endpoint that has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has -nonetheless migrated to a different remote address MUST either drop the incoming -packets on that path without generating a stateless reset or proceed with path -validation and allow the peer to migrate. Generating a stateless reset or -closing the connection would allow third parties in the network to cause +different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. If +the server sets the Disable Migration field in the preferred_address transport +parameter, the client MUST NOT send packets from a different local address to I think we could replace MUST with SHOULD in regard to `disable_active_migration` and `Disable Migration`. Nothing here is enforceable, since unintended migrations can always happen. The effect is likely similar. > @@ -5078,6 +5086,7 @@ Preferred Address { IPv4 Port (16), IPv6 Address (128), IPv6 Port (16), + Disable Migration (8), We've had a proposal to make this flag per-address. Need to land this discussion. If we adopt the suggestion above about Disable Migration means for switching to a different protocol family, this becomes easier to reason about a per-family flag. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3898#pullrequestreview-447699048 ----==_mimepart_5f0cfabf658c8_7dd23ff321ecd96c139945d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@igorlord requested changes on this pull request.

We need to clarify what to do about source addresses when changing protocol families.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2178,12 +2180,16 @@ before the handshake is confirmed, as defined in section 4.1.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.
 
 If the peer sent the disable_active_migration transport parameter, an endpoint
 also MUST NOT send packets (including probing packets; see {{probing}}) from a
-different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. An
-endpoint that has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has
-nonetheless migrated to a different remote address MUST either drop the incoming
-packets on that path without generating a stateless reset or proceed with path
-validation and allow the peer to migrate. Generating a stateless reset or
-closing the connection would allow third parties in the network to cause
+different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. If
+the server sets the Disable Migration field in the preferred_address transport
+parameter, the client MUST NOT send packets from a different local address to
+the server's preferred address.

You may want to specify that when Disable Migration is set, to migrate to an SPA of a different address family, the client MUST (SHOULD?) use a source address belonging to the same network attachment interface as the handshake address.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2178,12 +2180,16 @@ before the handshake is confirmed, as defined in section 4.1.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.
 
 If the peer sent the disable_active_migration transport parameter, an endpoint
 also MUST NOT send packets (including probing packets; see {{probing}}) from a
-different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. An
-endpoint that has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has
-nonetheless migrated to a different remote address MUST either drop the incoming
-packets on that path without generating a stateless reset or proceed with path
-validation and allow the peer to migrate. Generating a stateless reset or
-closing the connection would allow third parties in the network to cause
+different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. If
+the server sets the Disable Migration field in the preferred_address transport
+parameter, the client MUST NOT send packets from a different local address to

I think we could replace MUST with SHOULD in regard to disable_active_migration and Disable Migration. Nothing here is enforceable, since unintended migrations can always happen. The effect is likely similar.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5078,6 +5086,7 @@ Preferred Address {
   IPv4 Port (16),
   IPv6 Address (128),
   IPv6 Port (16),
+  Disable Migration (8),

We've had a proposal to make this flag per-address. Need to land this discussion. If we adopt the suggestion above about Disable Migration means for switching to a different protocol family, this becomes easier to reason about a per-family flag.

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As suggested in #3290 (comment), what about the following?

congestion_period <= largest_lost_packet.time_sent - earliest_lost_packet.time_sent

We should check if largest_lost_packet /= earliest_lost_packet before that.

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----==_mimepart_5f0cfe576b7fa_3b6a3f99c3acd9649830e3-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 17:51:13 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5715D3A0CB5 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:51:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.697 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.697 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xohVIrrHwvCn for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 010DA3A0CAE for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259E38C095E for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:51:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594687869; bh=TOZvrhhMGwriSQh+XtB2nzihUBMvC1M3ysNzRCH6a9A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Oy9CohHngzrGjhjlkZKw2KTCtc8RxMMcrT08shDgs4SW02qvNMHpS8fjsop0VDgw6 Kqu19wr73Zg+Aa1TyI3BUYFFovAm3c1ueNgPIPGPr9p9IRSBkSeRd7XCRyGF7oX8Ax ABqJSPVnohpn5buGr2foM6dvySKOFfwOVT1tuEZ0= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:51:09 -0700 From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] disable_active_migration with SPA (#3765) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0d017d1642a_1cd53fd54b8cd95c967948"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 00:51:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0d017d1642a_1cd53fd54b8cd95c967948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho I would say that reachability/fitness-for-service is a shared problem for all _client migrations_, not a specific SPA problem. We introduced `disable_active_migration` to warn clients of situation where there is a high risk to reachability/fitness-for-service due to migrations after network attachment changes. SPA is an attempt to improve reachability. It does help with reachability after migration for some important types of deployments, and it helps with reachability even without migration by removing load balancers as possible points of failure (I include BGP-based anycast in "load balancers"). SPA does _not_ help with fitness-for-service after a migration. This discussion is about deployment where there is a high risk to fitness-for-service due to migrations after network attachment changes. SPA can be helpful there (see above), but migrations after network attachment changes is still inadvisable. In terms of practical considerations, embedded CDN nodes are certainly examples of deployments with high risk to reachability _and_ fitness-for-service due to migrations after network attachment changes. However, even public-facing anycast CDN nodes can have a similar fitness-for-service risk due to attachment changes in areas with poor network interconnections (some parts of Asia, for example). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3765#issuecomment-657903203 ----==_mimepart_5f0d017d1642a_1cd53fd54b8cd95c967948 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho I would say that reachability/fitness-for-service is a shared problem for all client migrations, not a specific SPA problem.

We introduced disable_active_migration to warn clients of situation where there is a high risk to reachability/fitness-for-service due to migrations after network attachment changes.

SPA is an attempt to improve reachability. It does help with reachability after migration for some important types of deployments, and it helps with reachability even without migration by removing load balancers as possible points of failure (I include BGP-based anycast in "load balancers"). SPA does not help with fitness-for-service after a migration.

This discussion is about deployment where there is a high risk to fitness-for-service due to migrations after network attachment changes. SPA can be helpful there (see above), but migrations after network attachment changes is still inadvisable.

In terms of practical considerations, embedded CDN nodes are certainly examples of deployments with high risk to reachability and fitness-for-service due to migrations after network attachment changes. However, even public-facing anycast CDN nodes can have a similar fitness-for-service risk due to attachment changes in areas with poor network interconnections (some parts of Asia, for example).

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----==_mimepart_5f0d017d1642a_1cd53fd54b8cd95c967948-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 17:56:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4223A0CB5 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:56:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8tYA_yoTIvxc for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E39943A0C2E for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFCD6E01FD for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:55:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594688158; bh=EHx9ZWBw3PqlIJ91I8vbp0RWUMoTL3a3ZhitxBvVkOM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=n2zygjtfHV6TPg+PVt25SAFXs6C0OCs+3rDRL7g2bWL463QaUFQbYvXjgeP+ijo+C O1sQ4EF+tHI9q+XNhte4gPJh8hGxAUaMiyceLQX2RrS4bDoH6cKQsANbaQBYxo0b/g ASSKOWYLmI3k8lFFajbc2oclC9mw1LWMdrRCaxRI= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 17:55:58 -0700 From: Kazu Yamamoto Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] update kInitialRtt to 333ms, use that constant (#3823) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0d029e2f3b5_d5a3fa958ecd95c17479d7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazu-yamamoto X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 00:56:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0d029e2f3b5_d5a3fa958ecd95c17479d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems to me that QUIC pseudo is based on RFC 6298: 1. Initialize RTO 2. Overwite RTO by the first sample 3. Calucate RTO after that This algorithm for TCP makes sense to me because this is for RTO. The initial value is used as timeout. However, for the PTO approach of QUIC, the second step does not make sense to me. If the initial value is overwritten, the value is not used at all. Am I misunderstanding something? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3823#issuecomment-657904430 ----==_mimepart_5f0d029e2f3b5_d5a3fa958ecd95c17479d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It seems to me that QUIC pseudo is based on RFC 6298:

  1. Initialize RTO
  2. Overwite RTO by the first sample
  3. Calucate RTO after that

This algorithm for TCP makes sense to me because this is for RTO. The initial value is used as timeout.

However, for the PTO approach of QUIC, the second step does not make sense to me. If the initial value is overwritten, the value is not used at all.

Am I misunderstanding something?

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@kazuho yes, the simplest way to not run into coalescing problems is to not start migrations or CID changes before Handshake Done.

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----==_mimepart_5f0d050791a9_28523fe858ccd9601399587-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 18:15:20 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E063A0D62 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:15:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.697 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.697 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wpTgkWb3hwOS for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E66B33A0D5E for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2300405.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.39]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4686A1E0F for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:15:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594689316; bh=a/1LpQ33SZB9FcZse3+MlfxpWMAy3rZY6LdGHfy1a3c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vLVWMxwZH2wYwE6AbPKWEwR1lrI9YyzgJfwC6nopPrWScfI7fbE1d5uJJ3w8Ztou9 0KYI7VJNStD06Hu1Gx2gzbQXYuunQKcIdzhy80bI3U7T6wu+GE1wOm52rkw+gyPbtv IyFiUdaEF9kazTlp4WMkkSD9mOgPQqQBo9HMxqX4= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:15:16 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Coalescing different CIDs for same connection (#3800) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0d0724cf349_7af63fbaddecd95c1265769"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 01:15:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0d0724cf349_7af63fbaddecd95c1265769 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Apologies, I'm getting lost in the weeds here. I agree with @MikeBishop that we need to make a change, and that #3870 is really meant to be an editorial fix to what the intent always was. @huitema, @marten-seemann, @kazuho: Are we all agreeing on this point? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3800#issuecomment-657909556 ----==_mimepart_5f0d0724cf349_7af63fbaddecd95c1265769 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Apologies, I'm getting lost in the weeds here. I agree with @MikeBishop that we need to make a change, and that #3870 is really meant to be an editorial fix to what the intent always was.

@huitema, @marten-seemann, @kazuho: Are we all agreeing on this point?

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If the first sample overwrites the initial value, I think that the initial value is meaningless. 500ms vs 333ms does not matter, I guess.

Please refer to the description of #3525 for using 333ms instead of 500ms.

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However, even public-facing anycast CDN nodes can have a similar fitness-for-service risk due to attachment changes in areas with poor network interconnections (some parts of Asia, for example). Thank you for elaborating. Good to know that we agree that the if the client should be using the same source address is an orthogonal issue to if the server disables migration for the preferred address. My argument is, based on our shared view, that the issue should be discussed separately from disabling active migration the preferred address, because it is a separate problem (and that the current state of PR is incorrect in sense that it requires the client to use the same source address _only when_ migration is disabled for the preferred address). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In terms of practical considerations, embedded CDN nodes are certainly examples of deployments with high risk to reachability and fitness-for-service due to migrations after network attachment changes. However, even public-facing anycast CDN nodes can have a similar fitness-for-service risk due to attachment changes in areas with poor network interconnections (some parts of Asia, for example).

Thank you for elaborating. Good to know that we agree that the if the client should be using the same source address is an orthogonal issue to if the server disables migration for the preferred address.

My argument is, based on our shared view, that the issue should be discussed separately from disabling active migration the preferred address, because it is a separate problem (and that the current state of PR is incorrect in sense that it requires the client to use the same source address only when migration is disabled for the preferred address).

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@janaiyengar I personally prefer the old version, force single CID in coalesced packet. Loosening the text to allow multiple CID requires a code change in my implementation.

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Closed #3850 via #3872.

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The issue is telling the client that it should avoid changing the source address/network attachment (active client migration) during a connection while still allowing for SPA (destination address change). Is that what you agree with?

Before the change in disable_active_migration semantics, disable_active_migration was such a signal. Now, there is not one. The semantics were changed to accomodate a useful use case, for sure. Looking for a replacement signal...

the current state of PR is incorrect in sense that it requires the client to use the same source address only when migration is disabled for the preferred address

I am not sure what "only" is emphasizing. I read the current PR as stating that when Migration Disable flag is set, the handshake source address MUST/SHOULD be used when changing destination to SPA and thereafter. It still needs work to clarify whether one can set Migration Disable flag, when disable_active_migration is not set. And it needs to clarify how to perform address family change when Migration Disable flag is set.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -6369,14 +6369,17 @@ endpoints that share a static key for stateless reset (see {{reset-token}}) MUST
 be arranged so that packets with a given connection ID always arrive at an
 instance that has connection state, unless that connection is no longer active.
 
+More generally, servers MUST NOT generate a stateless reset if a connection with
+the corresponding connection ID could be active.

Well, I consider this to be implicit. After all, your deployment can mint the same connection ID as mine and they would be different. But it's a fine clarification.

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Closes #3832. Commit: c197894db65f3611f97f25fadaabf986e504634b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c197894db65f3611f97f25fadaabf986e504634b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Scope this more. Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop Commit: f91ecf0bffcc5fd34a1070c90fbd56c8b266c4d1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f91ecf0bffcc5fd34a1070c90fbd56c8b266c4d1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- wrap Commit: 40f0d61b9b2aadb490292e538e4de52dda671c71 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/40f0d61b9b2aadb490292e538e4de52dda671c71 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3894 from quicwg/stateless-reset-summary Don't reset an active connection Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/fe5a166e32fa...40f0d61b9b2a From nobody Mon Jul 13 18:50:39 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA073A0E41 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:50:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4x5ybT00_Y_q for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9658F3A0976 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E738928111E for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:50:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594691431; bh=l6Gs5A6vfAUJko69YphYV1bIGhS0811GNAxrk3F8gho=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lbRCPPnHEGBEo7ZHSpAhaeH+yJde6R2DboBaoLjXBYEIX/mXPfVV6EsHYI9Pz8578 VNHgI77ORh4LV1uUPwn5QFlMVxHZOGforqjhU0DvXMtOe1baZkkbVBTehwSxjJlFOT 4iTp3jtYBi46usfCIhR1uPiTsp07Mg2ewldFB21k= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:50:31 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Push Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't reset an active connection (#3894) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0d0f67d80e5_1d4f3fd54b8cd95c2348542"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: push X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 01:50:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0d0f67d80e5_1d4f3fd54b8cd95c2348542 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson pushed 1 commit. f91ecf0bffcc5fd34a1070c90fbd56c8b266c4d1 wrap -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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One is better. Closes #3816. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4549,13 +4549,9 @@ packets.
 
 After a client receives a Retry packet, 0-RTT packets are likely to have been
 lost or discarded by the server.  A client SHOULD attempt to resend data in
-0-RTT packets after it sends a new Initial packet.
-
-A client MUST NOT reset the packet number it uses for 0-RTT packets, since the
-keys used to protect 0-RTT packets will not change as a result of responding to
-a Retry packet.  Sending packets with the same packet number in that case is
-likely to compromise the packet protection for all 0-RTT packets because the
-same key and nonce could be used to protect different content.
+0-RTT packets after it sends a new Initial packet.  New packet numbers MUST be

I think that the "reusing packet numbers" is clear enough.

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@kazu-yamamoto : The initial value is used for seeding the PTO for the first handshake packets, before any RTT sample is received. That is still necessary. Does that make sense?

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The point is that these don't carry information from server to client or client to server, they carry information from server (previous) to server (next). Closes #3817. Commit: bd9605974dd60f06af1bebdb3ee3c27440d8e83f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bd9605974dd60f06af1bebdb3ee3c27440d8e83f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- tokens and tickets are opaque Commit: 8302a5f914c0ffe1c7a44520140f2aa4d7197c0b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8302a5f914c0ffe1c7a44520140f2aa4d7197c0b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reword first part Commit: 5464c6fde4443dfbb6274d9caf34442113003d22 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5464c6fde4443dfbb6274d9caf34442113003d22 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3820 from quicwg/ticket-semantics Tickets and tokens are not for communication Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/6e886707ae9e...5464c6fde444 From nobody Mon Jul 13 18:54:57 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD90E3A0DA5 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:54:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R4tkSp0MINgO for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A028F3A0C50 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-28f8021.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-28f8021.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.98]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA7C6E1240 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:54:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594691693; bh=iO0u+0xaQ2mCm4Yfm22a4Z92Pslk8R7CLqhoyU8n+xc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=CK3xa+SBIVbgDwshvWiipr6YHFCtlPujkRWvViv1WsImLScD+tyHzdkZtsJMhSTA3 V8X+hj9791fdFiVR/XCDiXCO8IVcxRA/qG0SqovfgMkHjK8l5cxWv3v5aucsX9do/h Doy0t29Hlm/BVsUZ8M+XdJ0KTa4c2FEMflanTqqA= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:54:53 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Tickets/tokens MUST NOT carry application semantics, but carry settings (#3817) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0d106db0ee1_105c3fbee44cd96019356bb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 01:54:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0d106db0ee1_105c3fbee44cd96019356bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #3817 via #3820. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I'm with @huitema. Single CID.

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

I'm going to ask that this go to the list first.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5078,6 +5086,7 @@ Preferred Address {
   IPv4 Port (16),
   IPv6 Address (128),
   IPv6 Port (16),
+  Disable Migration (8),

Let's phrase this positively, no matter which way we resolve the per-family question.

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----==_mimepart_5f0d122d7036_1d0c3fd54b8cd95c17333d7-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 19:17:18 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6119D3A0EA1 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:17:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ypGETsjaAiH2 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B4333A0E9F for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.105.50]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8441204C2 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:17:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594693034; bh=XsEC0M1rZjgUa45CsXcLC7r18mFp8JSVjdmwNu5uqGQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Zv8ggYHXsDO2CtqwhcJ+dXZRSfrbQocAWcJu3EKCdNusJwKX2awhmslCSeFWWgp1x 3xQUakIZgHqyGzJoCc6VxX5aR3ankl3DIT/uHBDE+8l4QfSo7/lt6fJsgDRJF6bj+f TyOLqIwg5Bd7HLO2wIOJSwVCoxTEFEYfvDZfPdxs= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:17:14 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] disable_active_migration with SPA (#3765) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0d15aa37bed_1b103febc48cd96821262ae"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 02:17:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0d15aa37bed_1b103febc48cd96821262ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The issue is telling the client that it should avoid changing the source address/network attachment (active client migration) during a connection while still allowing for SPA (destination address change). Is that what you agree with? I understand that that is the issue that you are discussing alongside disabling migration after the client moves to the preferred address. I think we agree at least that they are "technically" orthogonal issues. > Before the change in `disable_active_migration` semantics, `disable_active_migration` was such a signal. Now, there is not one. Thanks. I now understand your view, but I wonder if that has ever been the intent of the text. The counterexample is that we have intentionally allowed servers to provide a preferred address using a different address family than the original address. Wouldn't it be more natural to assume that the existing text regarding a MUST NOT for changing the client address (when the disable_active_migration TP was used) was written under the assumption that server_preferred address was not used in such case? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3765#issuecomment-657925719 ----==_mimepart_5f0d15aa37bed_1b103febc48cd96821262ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The issue is telling the client that it should avoid changing the source address/network attachment (active client migration) during a connection while still allowing for SPA (destination address change). Is that what you agree with?

I understand that that is the issue that you are discussing alongside disabling migration after the client moves to the preferred address. I think we agree at least that they are "technically" orthogonal issues.

Before the change in disable_active_migration semantics, disable_active_migration was such a signal. Now, there is not one.

Thanks. I now understand your view, but I wonder if that has ever been the intent of the text. The counterexample is that we have intentionally allowed servers to provide a preferred address using a different address family than the original address. Wouldn't it be more natural to assume that the existing text regarding a MUST NOT for changing the client address (when the disable_active_migration TP was used) was written under the assumption that server_preferred address was not used in such case?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5078,6 +5086,7 @@ Preferred Address {
   IPv4 Port (16),
   IPv6 Address (128),
   IPv6 Port (16),
+  Disable Migration (8),

I think my not-so-strong preference would be to call this value "disable_active_migration" so that it would be consistent with the Transport Parameter that we use to advertise the property of the original address.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +The Destination Connection ID field from the first Initial packet sent by a
+client is used to determine packet protection keys for Initial packets.  These
+keys change after receiving a Retry packet; see Section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.

How about an additional sentence that spells this out? "The Destination Connection ID field from the first Initial packet sent by a client is used to determine packet protection keys for Initial packets. While the Destination Connection ID can change on subsequent Initial packets ({{negotiating-connection-ids}}), the packet protection keys used for Initial packets do not change. The keys change however after receiving a Retry packet; see ... "

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----==_mimepart_5f0d17d560675_75013fdeddecd96020856c2-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 19:27:48 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3935D3A0F88 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:27:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2hJ0bWCrbenc for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4AEB3A0F49 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0f7e7fd.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0f7e7fd.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.110.17]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1572E520DEF for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:27:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594693655; bh=pCJy8zYqHCmMLO3ZajIBXtb+A/hcSEWppUuSQhW637w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SbVc3GroKvvtwT/R2m3Cx0SEjUyImdMtDdkVFMlsqx+M1O7hmJza3kj9v+sT5DCKO lpgx7hVCme7QxvcMydtAQjZD3Fm9gXj3BzQey1jqHmqQMcEH+ASVnMLeKpBXLFo1gQ tMe2Hfz1zXE5ZIs7oBw/KCL59IQck/gGHFitzRZM= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:27:35 -0700 From: Kazu Yamamoto Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Minor fixes for the recovery draft (#3813) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0d18175495_28803fe858ccd96013368f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazu-yamamoto X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 02:27:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0d18175495_28803fe858ccd96013368f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > `max_ack_delay` is initialized to 0 but not updated anywhere. - [ ] I would like to have a comment that `max_ack_delay` is set when TP is exchanged. - [ ] `max_ack_delay` is used in three places in the pseudo code. `InPersistentCongestion` uses non-0 value for Initial and Handshake. Other two places looks good. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3813#issuecomment-657928497 ----==_mimepart_5f0d18175495_28803fe858ccd96013368f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

max_ack_delay is initialized to 0 but not updated anywhere.

  • I would like to have a comment that max_ack_delay is set when TP is exchanged.

  • max_ack_delay is used in three places in the pseudo code. InPersistentCongestion uses non-0 value for Initial and Handshake. Other two places looks good.

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----==_mimepart_5f0d18175495_28803fe858ccd96013368f-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 20:35:44 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D7F3A0A84 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 20:35:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fVHv8UCJd4sN for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 20:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05F413A0916 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 20:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f1f7af9.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f1f7af9.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.111.13]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C2D8C11E2 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 20:35:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594697737; bh=yMj1Y2n3VF1PBab6LoZSgyce01g6bWhFg6EFZR/dNsk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=rsj9imWPSnRXF7FbguOya+RUYqwCazFnNq3CGPARdXmBUX/X3S/IKNQ3qGP5PAIrQ YfD//MaJm9fOzc7WAlnT5LbuwoPW+ceSYsMHbZthmgqBj56n+4b/r2Qx/XNdYrxN2H sYg/XyWDc8xmSYhuoSLm3+snWjoKDxKJmJHW9ZFI= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 20:35:37 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Which DCID determines Initial keys (#3862) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0d280923317_577d3fdf4d2cd96018944c2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 03:35:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0d280923317_577d3fdf4d2cd96018944c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson commented on this pull request. > +The Destination Connection ID field from the first Initial packet sent by a +client is used to determine packet protection keys for Initial packets. These +keys change after receiving a Retry packet; see Section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. We could, but that is the point of adding the reference. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3862#discussion_r454078632 ----==_mimepart_5f0d280923317_577d3fdf4d2cd96018944c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +The Destination Connection ID field from the first Initial packet sent by a
+client is used to determine packet protection keys for Initial packets.  These
+keys change after receiving a Retry packet; see Section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.

We could, but that is the point of adding the reference.

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----==_mimepart_5f0d280923317_577d3fdf4d2cd96018944c2-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 21:00:10 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0EA3A084E for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 21:00:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gdu11ghuw9yM for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 21:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4936D3A0805 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 21:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a6a2749.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a6a2749.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.62]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9388C03C9 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 21:00:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594699205; bh=CeAxySvEpiou6F8f8tHfgX0UFnpjoYsdAmRV/QqeAbs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=n2a/fuJindq2eSLyDXEiHebfzAg/XVxPRHt3Hx5HNneOn48eFeEtrdWc6aP1eme+N eswCBHkeeS3EAetKOu8UPnu6nzzcinPavm1Vl1IEzSz5lIgV4FUScvZxs40+2p3ex/ 22R3KVnN9cgrmcfhBrc3QOMA5WouG/3aP/Z/qMZs= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 21:00:05 -0700 From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] disable_active_migration with SPA (#3765) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0d2dc54a61f_4e523fe0ac2cd96414765a6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 04:00:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0d2dc54a61f_4e523fe0ac2cd96414765a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I wonder if that has ever been the intent of the text. That could be asked of those who wrote the text and whose who provided their consensus. SPA (server migration) is a separate feature from client migration, controlled by disable_active_migration. SPA does not have to involve client migration and better be controlled separately from it. Change of protocol families is a cute feature of SPA, and we will see if it proves useful. There is typically a reason why a client chose the "wrong" family. In any case, existence of this feature necisates an update to the disable_active_migration sematic during the feature interactions. I am pretty happy with the direction of @MikeBishop 's PR, since it restores an ability to provide a signal that "connection resumption is recommended instead of migration to another attachment". -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3765#issuecomment-657952405 ----==_mimepart_5f0d2dc54a61f_4e523fe0ac2cd96414765a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I wonder if that has ever been the intent of the text.

That could be asked of those who wrote the text and whose who provided their consensus. SPA (server migration) is a separate feature from client migration, controlled by disable_active_migration. SPA does not have to involve client migration and better be controlled separately from it.

Change of protocol families is a cute feature of SPA, and we will see if it proves useful. There is typically a reason why a client chose the "wrong" family. In any case, existence of this feature necisates an update to the disable_active_migration sematic during the feature interactions.

I am pretty happy with the direction of @MikeBishop 's PR, since it restores an ability to provide a signal that "connection resumption is recommended instead of migration to another attachment".

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----==_mimepart_5f0d4095e54b_47803fa558acd964213279a-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 23:02:31 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AFF3A10FA for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:02:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J2uLQ3MbfX6A for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A20253A10F8 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-943b171.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-943b171.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.22.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182866A042B for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:02:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594706544; bh=FpGtZMl9e7COwlEF5aP4+ET8Ixc1oHkoOs1PHD8v750=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TxdwWP5YbrShXOp5g1vkGsO6olx2g7vFO3CLqttJmhVJ86WzPpqA2K4mPBAYSxG5e ErcIzctfuiHCVd4nERDA3sojJX7qLK9TmDoE+IxtWYJfHedjlyUOnUs8E+Y3FmelcO sbL1iDzD5TOJ111tNxR+JNwJJt/oTT+zYFzyNDFA= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:02:24 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow endpoints to generate traffic keys asynchronously (#3874) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0d4a708be0_37c3f92a6ecd95c242883f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 06:02:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0d4a708be0_37c3f92a6ecd95c242883f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @janaiyengar commented on this pull request. @kazuho: I've tried to clarify the text a bit more, please see if this fits. It's more general than the existing text (which is what I think you were going for), but it also gives specific examples, which helps understand the context. > +4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. PTO is not +armed because issues other than packet loss might prevent an endpoint from +receiving an acknowledgement. A receiver might lack the keys necessary to +process packets, or the sender might lack the keys necessary to process +acknowledgments. This occurs when the client sends 0-RTT packets as the server +might not accept 0-RTT and the client will not have 1-RTT keys for processing +acknowledgments until the handshake completes. This occurs for 1-RTT packets as +either endpoint might not have the ability to read until the handshake is +complete. ```suggestion 4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. Not arming the PTO timer on ApplicationData prevents an endpoint from retransmitting data in packets when the peer does not yet have the keys necessary to process them or when the endpoint does not yet have the keys necessary to process their acknowledgements. For instance, this can happen when a client retransmits data sent in 0-RTT packets to the server before confirming that the server is able to decrypt 0-RTT packets. Or it can happen when a server retransmits data sent in 1-RTT packets while the client has not yet finished validating the server's certificate and therefore can not read 1-RTT packets yet. ``` > When ack-eliciting packets in multiple packet number spaces are in flight, -the timer MUST be set for the packet number space with the earliest timeout, -with one exception. The ApplicationData packet number space (Section 4.1.1 -of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. 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This is going to be a bit tricky. > @@ -2178,12 +2180,16 @@ before the handshake is confirmed, as defined in section 4.1.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. If the peer sent the disable_active_migration transport parameter, an endpoint also MUST NOT send packets (including probing packets; see {{probing}}) from a -different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. An -endpoint that has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has -nonetheless migrated to a different remote address MUST either drop the incoming -packets on that path without generating a stateless reset or proceed with path -validation and allow the peer to migrate. Generating a stateless reset or -closing the connection would allow third parties in the network to cause +different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. If +the server sets the Disable Migration field in the preferred_address transport +parameter, the client MUST NOT send packets from a different local address to +the server's preferred address. Yeah, this is getting tricky. I think we can say "SHOULD use the same network interface" when changing to the server's SPA. The server will also have to do the validation dance with the client on the new client address from the SPA. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3898#pullrequestreview-447820847 ----==_mimepart_5f0d504482612_7f03fb5218cd960540934 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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This is going to be a bit tricky.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2178,12 +2180,16 @@ before the handshake is confirmed, as defined in section 4.1.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.
 
 If the peer sent the disable_active_migration transport parameter, an endpoint
 also MUST NOT send packets (including probing packets; see {{probing}}) from a
-different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. An
-endpoint that has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has
-nonetheless migrated to a different remote address MUST either drop the incoming
-packets on that path without generating a stateless reset or proceed with path
-validation and allow the peer to migrate. Generating a stateless reset or
-closing the connection would allow third parties in the network to cause
+different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. If
+the server sets the Disable Migration field in the preferred_address transport
+parameter, the client MUST NOT send packets from a different local address to
+the server's preferred address.

Yeah, this is getting tricky. I think we can say "SHOULD use the same network interface" when changing to the server's SPA. The server will also have to do the validation dance with the client on the new client address from the SPA.

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----==_mimepart_5f0d504482612_7f03fb5218cd960540934-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 23:27:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598593A112A for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:27:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B_WInnh6x5kV for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 962713A1123 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.57]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E771A08A7 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:27:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594708041; bh=k1wuPw1yPQ+U6AJzTJOnbPENWm0qcAICwufzv93y7k8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LhCtCZyU3Opg35ZipnguCk5baQfkksKbt0tUG0d0O7g7VjdSRRbO5Z8GmS92TUQbq yDgEHJBNt1nc/ujzVjPlLjM72q1cO1mT6lkdTCbiAxHYvI4D7uPpWsJ7VUmPXzLPFg h1ZLL/Q3OBAN94GP90PXU8eUU4Sccl2p5QIdO5iE= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:27:21 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Be clearer about protections (#3900) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0d50498eb08_58033fe88a2cd9602533899"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 06:27:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0d50498eb08_58033fe88a2cd9602533899 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This breaks down some of the packet protection text in favour of more specific language about the protections provided. By preference, this talks about integrity protection and confidentiality protection as it relates to those packets that are protected using keys derived from TLS. For Initial packets this means avoid use of "packet protection" as much as possible (I'm sure that I have missed some of these). The same for Retry. This required some additional framing, but it wasn't too intrusive. Most of the changes are cosmetic. (I could maybe have split the exposition about initial secrets from this, but it would mean juggling conflicting changesets.) Closes #3887. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3900 -- Commit Summary -- * Be clearer about protections -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (75) M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (48) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3900.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3900.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3900 ----==_mimepart_5f0d50498eb08_58033fe88a2cd9602533899 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This breaks down some of the packet protection text in favour of more
specific language about the protections provided. By preference,
this talks about integrity protection and confidentiality protection as
it relates to those packets that are protected using keys derived from
TLS. For Initial packets this means avoid use of "packet protection" as
much as possible (I'm sure that I have missed some of these). The same
for Retry.

This required some additional framing, but it wasn't too intrusive.
Most of the changes are cosmetic.

(I could maybe have split the exposition about initial secrets from this, but it would mean juggling conflicting changesets.)

Closes #3887.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3900

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  • Be clearer about protections

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +The Destination Connection ID field from the first Initial packet sent by a
+client is used to determine packet protection keys for Initial packets.  These
+keys change after receiving a Retry packet; see Section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.

I'm fine with the reference, but if there's any question, then being explicit doesn't hurt. I'm fine either way. Separately, I noticed that Sec 5.2 in TLS says "the Initial packet". That should be "the first Initial packet from the client".

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I think that "toward" is acceptable usage, otherwise, this is good. > @@ -615,7 +615,7 @@ a packet containing unacknowledged CRYPTO data earlier than the PTO expiry, subject to address validation limits; see Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. Peers can also use coalesced packets to ensure that each datagram elicits at ```suggestion Endpoints can also use coalesced packets to ensure that each datagram elicits at ``` > congestion control limits and are considered in-flight. -* PADDING frames cause packets to contribute toward bytes in flight without +* PADDING frames cause packets to contribute towards bytes in flight without ```suggestion * PADDING frames cause packets to contribute toward bytes in flight without ``` > @@ -145,10 +145,10 @@ of frames contained in a packet affect recovery and congestion control logic: performance of the QUIC handshake and use shorter timers for acknowledgement. -* Packets containing frames besides ACK or CONNECTION_CLOSE frames count toward +* Packets containing frames besides ACK or CONNECTION_CLOSE frames count towards I think that the original is correct. ```suggestion * Packets containing frames besides ACK or CONNECTION_CLOSE frames count toward ``` > @@ -615,7 +615,7 @@ a packet containing unacknowledged CRYPTO data earlier than the PTO expiry, subject to address validation limits; see Section 8.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. Peers can also use coalesced packets to ensure that each datagram elicits at -least one acknowledgement. For example, clients can coalesce an Initial packet +least one acknowledgement. For example, a client can coalesce an Initial packet I think that "a client" and "a server" are best here. The previous sentence is general, this is an example and therefore specific. That said, we are almost certainly hugely inconsistent about addressing requirements to "endpoints" (plural) or "an endpoint" (singular). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3893#pullrequestreview-447822856 ----==_mimepart_5f0d51d8c2300_6ff93f92320cd95c3371e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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If the peer sent the disable_active_migration transport parameter, an endpoint also MUST NOT send packets (including probing packets; see {{probing}}) from a -different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. An -endpoint that has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has -nonetheless migrated to a different remote address MUST either drop the incoming -packets on that path without generating a stateless reset or proceed with path -validation and allow the peer to migrate. Generating a stateless reset or -closing the connection would allow third parties in the network to cause +different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. If +the server sets the Disable Migration field in the preferred_address transport +parameter, the client MUST NOT send packets from a different local address to +the server's preferred address. > First, it is only SPAs with Disable Migration flag that are at issue here. Based on the discussion on the issue (e.g., https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3765#issuecomment-657903203), I think we tend to agree that the problem exists to the same extent, for servers disabling migration on SPA and those do not. This is essentially a server asking the client to migrate to a specific server address based on the address that the client is using, and therefore not wanting the client to move to a different client address. Therefore, if we are going to have any requirement, I think we should recommend *one* behavior, regardless of the use of the disable-migration flag. Having different behaviors might seem like a way of restoring the old behavior (I have reservations as stated in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3765#issuecomment-657925719). But regardless, I would argue that having different behavior is an unnecessary complexity without technical merit. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2178,12 +2180,16 @@ before the handshake is confirmed, as defined in section 4.1.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.
 
 If the peer sent the disable_active_migration transport parameter, an endpoint
 also MUST NOT send packets (including probing packets; see {{probing}}) from a
-different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. An
-endpoint that has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has
-nonetheless migrated to a different remote address MUST either drop the incoming
-packets on that path without generating a stateless reset or proceed with path
-validation and allow the peer to migrate. Generating a stateless reset or
-closing the connection would allow third parties in the network to cause
+different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. If
+the server sets the Disable Migration field in the preferred_address transport
+parameter, the client MUST NOT send packets from a different local address to
+the server's preferred address.

First, it is only SPAs with Disable Migration flag that are at issue here.

Based on the discussion on the issue (e.g., #3765 (comment)), I think we tend to agree that the problem exists to the same extent, for servers disabling migration on SPA and those do not. This is essentially a server asking the client to migrate to a specific server address based on the address that the client is using, and therefore not wanting the client to move to a different client address.

Therefore, if we are going to have any requirement, I think we should recommend one behavior, regardless of the use of the disable-migration flag.

Having different behaviors might seem like a way of restoring the old behavior (I have reservations as stated in #3765 (comment)). But regardless, I would argue that having different behavior is an unnecessary complexity without technical merit.

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Commit: e1dd809c59ded51e59d68e38d659f602f7aee526 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e1dd809c59ded51e59d68e38d659f602f7aee526 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3829 from quicwg/invariant-unused Fix description of Version Negotiation Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/5464c6fde444...e1dd809c59de From nobody Mon Jul 13 23:42:52 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61673A1153 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:42:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id koJkGdRWOcTP for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33F713A1161 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-9d2806a.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-9d2806a.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.102.50]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FC5660326 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:42:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594708954; bh=Tk4Nswi8qC67kgyHrZvmFav5CrnLo1ZiZhsMjRvZILc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=sNZsVa5fCUBSPVBY24Yj8RHfnQzgo6RxdOxEZbbaX+5NcShb8QlFAUmffpLsCNTgZ 4Pw8sfvs2PQAlL9P4JeFiSe2Xrm7MsjyxFvHTTGSewBRJzkT+GzDwDh0aKs1hKdFcg frD5y3zL2D5aqhHz+gPMcJef9iGqU404msS3nbpk= Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 23:42:34 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Invariants definition of Unused in Version Negotiation packet (#3827) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0d53da5b820_67243f8f448cd968809488"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 06:42:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0d53da5b820_67243f8f448cd968809488 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #3827 via #3829. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Thanks. BTW, that toward/towards thing is an another odd English quirk.

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This picks those changes from #3856 that are good that don't conflict
with other changes that are in flight (to the best of my knowledge, that
is).

I've done some additional editorial work around some of these as no
surrounding text is safe when these edits land.

Closes #3856.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3901

Commit Summary

  • Cherry-pick from Ekr's WGLC edits

File Changes

Patch Links:

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Commit: c0c58db5415d3e152e7515435a961c3b4e69e38b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c0c58db5415d3e152e7515435a961c3b4e69e38b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- What typo? Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop Commit: c2b663f7a9de24b7a74390e5a528aa65d9e5e8ff https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c2b663f7a9de24b7a74390e5a528aa65d9e5e8ff Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clear vestiges of path validation symmetry In early versions of path validation, there was a requirement that PATH_CHALLENGE be sent on the same path. This is, for various reasons, either unnecessary or harmful, so we no longer have that requirement. But there was some residual text that assumed that property. This removes a paragraph citing symmetry directly, and rewords text that assumes return reachability - a property that QUIC no longer provides mechanisms for. Closes #3797. Commit: ace667763a2dae8884aa13042aab2c55fd74e791 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ace667763a2dae8884aa13042aab2c55fd74e791 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- comman mistake Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop Commit: 7962f3e399aef6a95288e6f20b22e980f89cf5be https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7962f3e399aef6a95288e6f20b22e980f89cf5be Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reduce and un-separate These two statements are - to the extent that I can best determine - redundant. One is better. Closes #3816. Commit: 2278a54320679745c5ace0d6bd6cd05be3128fcf https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2278a54320679745c5ace0d6bd6cd05be3128fcf Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Tickets and tokens are not for communication The text here was perhaps a little unclear on this point. The point is that these don't carry information from server to client or client to server, they carry information from server (previous) to server (next). Closes #3817. Commit: bd9605974dd60f06af1bebdb3ee3c27440d8e83f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bd9605974dd60f06af1bebdb3ee3c27440d8e83f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- tokens and tickets are opaque Commit: b5f313b4d11319c5541da517813dc8ce17772136 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b5f313b4d11319c5541da517813dc8ce17772136 Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- update kInitialRtt to 333ms, use that constant Commit: fa9f2afff3dca923287bc8429e6066bd93980890 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fa9f2afff3dca923287bc8429e6066bd93980890 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reorder TLS interface summary I came back to this today and found that the ordering was inconsistent and not sufficiently clear. Changing this so that all the actions for a single endpoint were grouped seemed to be the best arrangement. All events and actions are as close as possible in the ordering to the preceding event that caused or enabled it. The application data packets are displayed with a different marking, which helps distinguish those that carry CRYPTO frames. The final implied exchange for Get Handshake was removed. This was, I think, intended to imply something about session tickets. Without explanation, it is confusing. This doesn't show HANDSHAKE_DONE, nor do I think that it should, because that is something that the transport does once it gets the Handshake Complete signal. Commit: 9e94c00ed2133f30225fd31b4b7ea3ade8a9d702 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9e94c00ed2133f30225fd31b4b7ea3ade8a9d702 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- A small certificate is good There are a few ways that this can be managed, but it's worth pointing out why, and some things that might help. Closes #3784. Commit: c7c75414c9f761b5a8875d308938522dd139e565 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c7c75414c9f761b5a8875d308938522dd139e565 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fixup grammarz Commit: 49b2e4864a3862ef21dd3702159d2bbdd9765cb4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49b2e4864a3862ef21dd3702159d2bbdd9765cb4 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fix line length Commit: 14bff7c8f65a3911533d66fecb70f9db6f64ceba https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/14bff7c8f65a3911533d66fecb70f9db6f64ceba Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Fix description of Version Negotiation As Magnus noted, the description of the first byte is missing, and I also noticed that the Supported Version field was described as following Version, which is wrong. Commit: 2315e5efbc06c3b8ae2e9dc265651831aaef6291 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2315e5efbc06c3b8ae2e9dc265651831aaef6291 Author: Jonathan Hoyland Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fix nit Commit: ae8cb066a1763c37ed6f5f05fa8bf71599330c55 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ae8cb066a1763c37ed6f5f05fa8bf71599330c55 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-07 (Tue, 07 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3830 from jhoyla/jhoyla-nits Fix grammar nit Commit: 8302a5f914c0ffe1c7a44520140f2aa4d7197c0b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8302a5f914c0ffe1c7a44520140f2aa4d7197c0b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reword first part Commit: 61dabb193a53311b28aaa2ada21ecdc6e2260cf0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/61dabb193a53311b28aaa2ada21ecdc6e2260cf0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- VN isn't acknowledged, implicitly or otherwise This is a left-over from removing version negotiation from the draft. Closes #3854. Commit: 148f8afbc1fce748a42d2753836a298a74b33ff1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/148f8afbc1fce748a42d2753836a298a74b33ff1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- A couple of random circumlocations Closes #3846. Commit: d79bdc5b5b74a9a73d38f1eef32fd891036c36af https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d79bdc5b5b74a9a73d38f1eef32fd891036c36af Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove claim about 1-RTT keys This claim isn't necessary, as the statement about suitability is what matters here. Closes #3839. Commit: 9e79a7769529bab3e459d74564b004d9cbdc2d3c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9e79a7769529bab3e459d74564b004d9cbdc2d3c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- If a packet matches a connection, process it Not saying explicitly that was a small oversight. Closes #3837. Commit: 73c4da7ff17069db4374888aafab5c239d250634 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/73c4da7ff17069db4374888aafab5c239d250634 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clearer explanation of caveat on discarding packets Those packets that are not authenticated can be discarded, but only if processing them has no permanent effect on existing state. This attempts to explain that. Closes #3836. Commit: f1b52d999e4d94eab44f39a737d8e2124042ba59 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f1b52d999e4d94eab44f39a737d8e2124042ba59 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Add frames, not packets This uses positive framing for the recommendation to use frames rather than packets. And it makes that recommendation directly, rather than implying it. Closes #3850. Commit: 0a0126edef3d7d4d8f76e8264d7cc1c19e9f1b0e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0a0126edef3d7d4d8f76e8264d7cc1c19e9f1b0e Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3857 from quicwg/vn-implicit-ack VN isn't acknowledged, implicitly or otherwise Commit: fda048dcc0ac7135456e19d36ce9dbbe204c4c2e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fda048dcc0ac7135456e19d36ce9dbbe204c4c2e Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3863 from quicwg/randomlocution A couple of random circumlocations Commit: eb8b076ed58cb17dac824d7ac19e1824de7b6092 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/eb8b076ed58cb17dac824d7ac19e1824de7b6092 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3867 from quicwg/packets-for-connection If a packet matches a connection, process it Commit: 035ab1fac0437990ccd98925abb096719b20fbd8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/035ab1fac0437990ccd98925abb096719b20fbd8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Group 0-RTT sections This adds a short introductory section to the three sections that deal with 0-RTT. That might help contextualize and help contain the spaghetti structure that this section seems to have. Commit: 1266955162fbc9ed9b458755854a4df4407b02bc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1266955162fbc9ed9b458755854a4df4407b02bc Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3809 from quicwg/path-response-path Clear vestiges of path validation symmetry Commit: 1f7ceabb0fd8d2e6491717901409a99b36726001 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1f7ceabb0fd8d2e6491717901409a99b36726001 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Prohibit the offering of TLS <1.3 Just in case this wasn't blindingly obvious. Closes #3878. Commit: 83945b5b70556c0fc9f48b5e1d6d25e7d5c303bb https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/83945b5b70556c0fc9f48b5e1d6d25e7d5c303bb Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Repunctuate Commit: 9d632b0dae8f4eff6def26e96b052128cdb2e542 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9d632b0dae8f4eff6def26e96b052128cdb2e542 Author: Roy T. 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Closes #3832. 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Splitting the text regarding the 3PTO backstop makes this clearer. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +When the PTO timer expires, new or previously sent unacknowledged data MUST
+be sent if available. A probe packet SHOULD carry new data when possible.
 A probe packet MAY carry retransmitted unacknowledged data when new data is
 unavailable, when flow control does not permit new data to be sent, or to
 opportunistically reduce loss recovery delay.  Implementations MAY use

Thanks. I think this is more concise. Additionally,

"When the PTO timer ..." -> L625 says "When a PTO timer ..."
"an ack-eliciting packet MUST be sent" -> is it a duplicate of L625?
"An endpoint SHOULD include new data in this packet" -> "An endpoint SHOULD include new data in this packet if available"

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----==_mimepart_5f0d5dc8a22c3_74c03fd6570cd95c89359-- From nobody Tue Jul 14 00:27:31 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F5C3A11C3 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 00:27:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZRfC2sLR675f for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 00:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AE323A11C2 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 00:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.64]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF70661230 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 00:27:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594711646; bh=dteidLf88d02hqWPPQ5RkXObfgtqyma/Sx2bRDhAoco=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=HKk4tbREYrQOMZPd95StDQocVMbyttzPIttLlmiYbMJ9iEg111En0OA2Tmq2yLvAn aD/d8jYw1IQOG8/lHATfogG2Vy7GncoY1x2r8eyELWdjfI/SFJtx6HLLjv2Ttc7MCN pjvd2bprrZo7HHUDFKVw6trQvHXnfNrRg9kbxtTo= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 00:27:26 -0700 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 49ab8c: Define preferred_address Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 07:27:30 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/transport/mbishop_wglc Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 49ab8cedf1d5b55e2c7c2fbad0b6558afd4c8e8f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49ab8cedf1d5b55e2c7c2fbad0b6558afd4c8e8f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Define preferred_address Closes #3803. Commit: c0c58db5415d3e152e7515435a961c3b4e69e38b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c0c58db5415d3e152e7515435a961c3b4e69e38b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- What typo? Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop Commit: 40f96bb96344c97df9878768ec09a50a6b4e7f86 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/40f96bb96344c97df9878768ec09a50a6b4e7f86 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- TLS review Commit: 7962f3e399aef6a95288e6f20b22e980f89cf5be https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7962f3e399aef6a95288e6f20b22e980f89cf5be Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reduce and un-separate These two statements are - to the extent that I can best determine - redundant. One is better. Closes #3816. Commit: 2278a54320679745c5ace0d6bd6cd05be3128fcf https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2278a54320679745c5ace0d6bd6cd05be3128fcf Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Tickets and tokens are not for communication The text here was perhaps a little unclear on this point. The point is that these don't carry information from server to client or client to server, they carry information from server (previous) to server (next). Closes #3817. Commit: bd9605974dd60f06af1bebdb3ee3c27440d8e83f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bd9605974dd60f06af1bebdb3ee3c27440d8e83f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- tokens and tickets are opaque Commit: b5f313b4d11319c5541da517813dc8ce17772136 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b5f313b4d11319c5541da517813dc8ce17772136 Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- update kInitialRtt to 333ms, use that constant Commit: fa9f2afff3dca923287bc8429e6066bd93980890 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fa9f2afff3dca923287bc8429e6066bd93980890 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reorder TLS interface summary I came back to this today and found that the ordering was inconsistent and not sufficiently clear. Changing this so that all the actions for a single endpoint were grouped seemed to be the best arrangement. All events and actions are as close as possible in the ordering to the preceding event that caused or enabled it. The application data packets are displayed with a different marking, which helps distinguish those that carry CRYPTO frames. The final implied exchange for Get Handshake was removed. This was, I think, intended to imply something about session tickets. Without explanation, it is confusing. This doesn't show HANDSHAKE_DONE, nor do I think that it should, because that is something that the transport does once it gets the Handshake Complete signal. Commit: 9e94c00ed2133f30225fd31b4b7ea3ade8a9d702 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9e94c00ed2133f30225fd31b4b7ea3ade8a9d702 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- A small certificate is good There are a few ways that this can be managed, but it's worth pointing out why, and some things that might help. Closes #3784. Commit: 2ae16098ac4a98c56ad7d6bc5c5b0cca521b660f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2ae16098ac4a98c56ad7d6bc5c5b0cca521b660f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reword paragraph on HelloRetryRequest This was a little clumsy. Commit: c7c75414c9f761b5a8875d308938522dd139e565 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c7c75414c9f761b5a8875d308938522dd139e565 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fixup grammarz Commit: b194f64d522074b3ee677bf5325563cdf3bfa124 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b194f64d522074b3ee677bf5325563cdf3bfa124 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Leaner is good Commit: 14bff7c8f65a3911533d66fecb70f9db6f64ceba https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/14bff7c8f65a3911533d66fecb70f9db6f64ceba Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Fix description of Version Negotiation As Magnus noted, the description of the first byte is missing, and I also noticed that the Supported Version field was described as following Version, which is wrong. Commit: 6e638be2da8793e2f410fb5584b096f38914f904 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6e638be2da8793e2f410fb5584b096f38914f904 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2020-07-07 (Tue, 07 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson Commit: 39e6b42ec95308fec64a01c22716c2f821bcf898 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/39e6b42ec95308fec64a01c22716c2f821bcf898 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2020-07-07 (Tue, 07 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Apply suggestions from code review Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson Commit: 8302a5f914c0ffe1c7a44520140f2aa4d7197c0b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8302a5f914c0ffe1c7a44520140f2aa4d7197c0b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reword first part Commit: 9d55480335f0988bc4ca0ba4a793e50cb4011b19 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9d55480335f0988bc4ca0ba4a793e50cb4011b19 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Split minimum idle timeout period The text as written implied that the actual timeout period was calculated using: ``` min(max_idle_timeout[client], max_idle_timeout[server], 3 * PTO) ``` This is silly, as 3PTO is usually smaller than the other two values, and connections would time out too fast. Splitting the text regarding the 3PTO backstop makes this clearer. Commit: d44f3c87218775820808aa5c6357298d7b0753ed https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d44f3c87218775820808aa5c6357298d7b0753ed Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove the justification (too hard) Commit: d79bdc5b5b74a9a73d38f1eef32fd891036c36af https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d79bdc5b5b74a9a73d38f1eef32fd891036c36af Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove claim about 1-RTT keys This claim isn't necessary, as the statement about suitability is what matters here. Closes #3839. Commit: 73c4da7ff17069db4374888aafab5c239d250634 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/73c4da7ff17069db4374888aafab5c239d250634 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clearer explanation of caveat on discarding packets Those packets that are not authenticated can be discarded, but only if processing them has no permanent effect on existing state. This attempts to explain that. Closes #3836. Commit: f1b52d999e4d94eab44f39a737d8e2124042ba59 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f1b52d999e4d94eab44f39a737d8e2124042ba59 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Add frames, not packets This uses positive framing for the recommendation to use frames rather than packets. And it makes that recommendation directly, rather than implying it. Closes #3850. Commit: 035ab1fac0437990ccd98925abb096719b20fbd8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/035ab1fac0437990ccd98925abb096719b20fbd8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Group 0-RTT sections This adds a short introductory section to the three sections that deal with 0-RTT. That might help contextualize and help contain the spaghetti structure that this section seems to have. Commit: 1f7ceabb0fd8d2e6491717901409a99b36726001 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1f7ceabb0fd8d2e6491717901409a99b36726001 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Prohibit the offering of TLS <1.3 Just in case this wasn't blindingly obvious. Closes #3878. Commit: 83945b5b70556c0fc9f48b5e1d6d25e7d5c303bb https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/83945b5b70556c0fc9f48b5e1d6d25e7d5c303bb Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Repunctuate Commit: 9d632b0dae8f4eff6def26e96b052128cdb2e542 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9d632b0dae8f4eff6def26e96b052128cdb2e542 Author: Roy T. Fielding Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- do not refer to HTTP/1 as a TCP mapping (#3884) * do not refer to HTTP/1 as a TCP mapping * Rewrap Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop Commit: a96ea27ea8e9487b353e8b683bb295b20cf15d7a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a96ea27ea8e9487b353e8b683bb295b20cf15d7a Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- --comma Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop Commit: 66419264f22443673416df28d983d8018a2df879 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/66419264f22443673416df28d983d8018a2df879 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Context, context, context Commit: 72ccf149b20a67b39cba500e0e84a592f2f0423d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/72ccf149b20a67b39cba500e0e84a592f2f0423d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3888 from quicwg/transport/csplice Repunctuate #3867 Commit: c84501ae6cf7031c29b7d592e05d4d1dd23bf48c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c84501ae6cf7031c29b7d592e05d4d1dd23bf48c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3882 from quicwg/no-tls12 Prohibit the offering of TLS <1.3 Commit: 88e5ca8f65e61cae07c4bc029854190fe9124e9c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/88e5ca8f65e61cae07c4bc029854190fe9124e9c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- resulted, I guess Commit: fe42f509cd1c03873bc74ca01ab9d0b60d13c9eb https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fe42f509cd1c03873bc74ca01ab9d0b60d13c9eb Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3869 from quicwg/partial-processing Clearer explanation of caveat on discarding packets Commit: e8eed6e6ab2de5c07c9bbb094478c71a525b162c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e8eed6e6ab2de5c07c9bbb094478c71a525b162c Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Fixes #3815 (#3886) Commit: eeb38347eec33512acf05a754e3491954f0be5a6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/eeb38347eec33512acf05a754e3491954f0be5a6 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3825 from quicwg/small-cert-good A small certificate is good Commit: aad5c6b5ad0d9dbf5d23ae87c25672a7dbe58009 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/aad5c6b5ad0d9dbf5d23ae87c25672a7dbe58009 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3866 from quicwg/1rtt-keys-not-fs Remove claim about 1-RTT keys Commit: 0f10acee08533cdf353b828a4c018a12354e5a75 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0f10acee08533cdf353b828a4c018a12354e5a75 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- handshake data Commit: ceec57409394d00366eb32bd77d192073a46540b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ceec57409394d00366eb32bd77d192073a46540b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3824 from quicwg/interface-summary-order Reorder TLS interface summary Commit: a55dc7bf5350d327eaa0e67d0ee524d0ea0b4357 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a55dc7bf5350d327eaa0e67d0ee524d0ea0b4357 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fewer words Commit: e9dd5b8eb51639e39ff3a88466dbcc9e81f9e237 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e9dd5b8eb51639e39ff3a88466dbcc9e81f9e237 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Don't reset an active connection It's not that great that this text never said this so directly before. Closes #3832. Commit: c8e47f6c376807b7e4b2c8c180ef4fff04b8b3a2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c8e47f6c376807b7e4b2c8c180ef4fff04b8b3a2 Author: Julian Reschke Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md Log Message: ----------- qpack: fix HTTP Semantics section ref for semantics-09 Commit: 1d635c175972b023875293294762068cc55944c5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1d635c175972b023875293294762068cc55944c5 Author: Julian Reschke Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- http: fix sectiom references into HTTP Semantics (-09) (#3891) * http: fix sectiom references into HTTP Semantics (-09) * Rewrap Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop Commit: a76230e1c550518527a33acfdd16f59cf7001beb https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a76230e1c550518527a33acfdd16f59cf7001beb Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- all info Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop Commit: e2b89226d91b276178a2cd20aba11088246b6e66 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e2b89226d91b276178a2cd20aba11088246b6e66 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Rewrap Commit: 850e0c9c3bf6a5c6485202f222d7b1ecc78eb716 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/850e0c9c3bf6a5c6485202f222d7b1ecc78eb716 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3879 from quicwg/0rtt-section Group 0-RTT sections Commit: 09abe556c0b939cc7933c596899ea5c366c11d91 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/09abe556c0b939cc7933c596899ea5c366c11d91 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Reword as suggested by Jana Commit: fe5a166e32faaec2a73a8f95647e1e84c26e9bd9 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fe5a166e32faaec2a73a8f95647e1e84c26e9bd9 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3872 from quicwg/just-add-frames Add frames, not packets Commit: c197894db65f3611f97f25fadaabf986e504634b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c197894db65f3611f97f25fadaabf986e504634b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Scope this more. Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop Commit: f91ecf0bffcc5fd34a1070c90fbd56c8b266c4d1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f91ecf0bffcc5fd34a1070c90fbd56c8b266c4d1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- wrap Commit: 40f0d61b9b2aadb490292e538e4de52dda671c71 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/40f0d61b9b2aadb490292e538e4de52dda671c71 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3894 from quicwg/stateless-reset-summary Don't reset an active connection Commit: 9349c88f21bdf88ecd429d69f101d4aa8180c03b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9349c88f21bdf88ecd429d69f101d4aa8180c03b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3819 from quicwg/separately-keys Reduce and un-separate Commit: e82e1015b1e623aede318847cfc12f9abdbd0285 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e82e1015b1e623aede318847cfc12f9abdbd0285 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3823 from kazuho/kazuho/kinitialrtt update kInitialRtt to 333ms, use that constant Commit: 6e886707ae9ebfe164c8183f6ccccbb623c59e90 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6e886707ae9ebfe164c8183f6ccccbb623c59e90 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3807 from quicwg/define-preferred-address Define preferred_address Commit: 5464c6fde4443dfbb6274d9caf34442113003d22 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5464c6fde4443dfbb6274d9caf34442113003d22 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3820 from quicwg/ticket-semantics Tickets and tokens are not for communication Commit: e1dd809c59ded51e59d68e38d659f602f7aee526 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e1dd809c59ded51e59d68e38d659f602f7aee526 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3829 from quicwg/invariant-unused Fix description of Version Negotiation Commit: 1da964a57d65d8100e519de56bdd446efdf3c548 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1da964a57d65d8100e519de56bdd446efdf3c548 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into tls/mbishop_wglc Commit: 5c626a3f37e622e2127d468ab80a15d112e363d6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5c626a3f37e622e2127d468ab80a15d112e363d6 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3818 from quicwg/tls/mbishop_wglc Editorial suggestions on TLS Commit: 5c4da195e0df99ec10403f204be4ac319198039a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5c4da195e0df99ec10403f204be4ac319198039a Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3847 from quicwg/idle-3pto Split minimum idle timeout period Commit: 352d9512f3924ecbefe76245dea16cd9a413d845 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/352d9512f3924ecbefe76245dea16cd9a413d845 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3826 from quicwg/reword-hrr Reword paragraph on HelloRetryRequest Commit: 8b60a676470b4eb51beb3cef6c5c73606f1f90f3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8b60a676470b4eb51beb3cef6c5c73606f1f90f3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into transport/mbishop_wglc Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/8c4fe3d99fb1...8b60a676470b From nobody Tue Jul 14 00:27:43 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C843A11C3 for ; 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@junhochoi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +When the PTO timer expires, new or previously sent unacknowledged data MUST
+be sent if available. A probe packet SHOULD carry new data when possible.
 A probe packet MAY carry retransmitted unacknowledged data when new data is
 unavailable, when flow control does not permit new data to be sent, or to
 opportunistically reduce loss recovery delay.  Implementations MAY use

Also, L649 (below this line, I can't comment on the line) says "sending new or retransmitted" -> "sending new or previously-sent"

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A probe packet SHOULD carry new data when possible. A probe packet MAY carry retransmitted unacknowledged data when new data is unavailable, when flow control does not permit new data to be sent, or to opportunistically reduce loss recovery delay. Implementations MAY use Yeah the duplication with earlier is bad. ```suggestion An endpoint SHOULD include new data in probe packets. Data that was sent previously MAY be sent again no new data can be sent. Implementations MAY use ``` I think that using previously-sent and retransmitted is OK. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3897#discussion_r454164130 ----==_mimepart_5f0d614b567db_74503f8f31ecd95c5421b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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Yeah the duplication with earlier is bad.

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I think that using previously-sent and retransmitted is OK.

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An endpoint might send a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame in an Initial packet or in response to unauthenticated information received in Initial or Handshake packets.

A or in B in C or D is hard to read.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +4.1.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}) MUST be ignored until the handshake completes. PTO is not
+armed because issues other than packet loss might prevent an endpoint from
+receiving an acknowledgement. A receiver might lack the keys necessary to
+process packets, or the sender might lack the keys necessary to process
+acknowledgments. This occurs when the client sends 0-RTT packets as the server
+might not accept 0-RTT and the client will not have 1-RTT keys for processing
+acknowledgments until the handshake completes. This occurs for 1-RTT packets as
+either endpoint might not have the ability to read until the handshake is
+complete.

Thank you for the suggestion. Applied in b906534 with slight tweaks. PTAL.

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  1. I thought this section says about client, but suddenly Implementation appears.
  • Clients can cancel requests by ~
  • When the client aborts reading a response ~
  • Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by ~

so I think this implementation is also a client (that says about cancel response). but you mean this says both client/server ? server can cancel request too ?

  1. SGTM > I'll try to clean that up a bit

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However, one of the reasons that you might want to use disable_active_migration is if you're bad at connection IDs, and instead need to prevent the client from changing addresses.
This is now awkward because we can't really assume both things are true at the same time.

I think you're right that there are multiple levels of wanting to disable migration.

  • There are the 4-tuple load balancers who really can't handle a change of anything in the tuple, so you'd better do your best to keep your NAT binding alive, because a rebind will toast your connection; forget moving to any other networks.
  • There are 2-tuple load balancers who can handle NAT rebinds that leave you on the same IP (common, but not guaranteed); client might be okay to permit rebinding, but that's a risk if the IP changes, and you'd certainly better not change the IP yourself.
  • There are servers that either will not (contracts) or should not (performance) serve you if you change to a totally different network attachment, but changes within the same network attachment (e.g. Ethernet to Wi-Fi, roaming to a different VLAN) would still be okay. Those are probably rare enough we could abstract away to "don't change interface."

This makes me wonder how far we'd get if disable_active_migration could differentiate "don't change port" or "don't change interface." Would we still need to give different answers based on handshake vs. SPA address?

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Yes, servers can cancel a request; that is, indicate that for some reason they will not be processing it any further. But perhaps it would be clearer to separately state that in a paragraph about server behavior.

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Replace SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE with
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Add comment to HTTP/2 identifier mapping section about rename.

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----==_mimepart_5f0dc9f0eafc5_3bad3fb4b32cd95c41292-- From nobody Tue Jul 14 09:24:06 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666643A09E1 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:24:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zvRVA47bEpJr for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1088C3A09F1 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-fb56993.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-fb56993.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.31]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3510066018A for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:23:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594743838; bh=WEHeOlYvg/uXjswqfDxeA4hyJhQtO56btGAlHUHcoXQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Q9+bNqmu+GIyFGwGpQUjK2SjAWcB9lxFiK+P7RRw6/VW9P6Q3pQgqwIMXvDo57S18 SVsjVzSw1jvLDqXcXCr4OJpOxkVxFHKCmFyxnF6hnoqnfqHB+3jZaNtkh74scI9+v+ plV2zKlh8U604xF02V7N3WQHIgEaByVQ7zeSm+V8= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:23:58 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Desirable behavior when it takes time to derive the traffic keys for the next PN space (#3821) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0ddc1e24b8d_48973fccda4cd95c250965"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:24:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0ddc1e24b8d_48973fccda4cd95c250965 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for filing this. I think I mostly understand the issue, and I think this is mostly a correctness issue with Chrome. That being said, we may want to add some caution that this is a potential issue and to avoid handshake operations(ie: cert verification on the client and remote handshaking on the server) from excessively delaying acknowledgements. I've seen lots of cases when the cert is spread over 3 packets and Chrome ACKs the first two packets before the cert is verified, so this doesn't seem to be a case of key availability. Google servers don't have cert compression enabled yet, so many certs don't fit into 1 or 2 packets. The recovery draft already says that peers don't arm for ApplicationData(including 0.5RTT) before the handshake is confirmed. Knowing the peer has the information to derive the keys isn't really enough, since you'd also have to know the peer has received a packet of the next encryption level. As a result, I can't think of any changes to this part of the PTO logic I'd want to make. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3821#issuecomment-658277641 ----==_mimepart_5f0ddc1e24b8d_48973fccda4cd95c250965 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks for filing this. I think I mostly understand the issue, and I think this is mostly a correctness issue with Chrome. That being said, we may want to add some caution that this is a potential issue and to avoid handshake operations(ie: cert verification on the client and remote handshaking on the server) from excessively delaying acknowledgements.

I've seen lots of cases when the cert is spread over 3 packets and Chrome ACKs the first two packets before the cert is verified, so this doesn't seem to be a case of key availability. Google servers don't have cert compression enabled yet, so many certs don't fit into 1 or 2 packets.

The recovery draft already says that peers don't arm for ApplicationData(including 0.5RTT) before the handshake is confirmed. Knowing the peer has the information to derive the keys isn't really enough, since you'd also have to know the peer has received a packet of the next encryption level. As a result, I can't think of any changes to this part of the PTO logic I'd want to make.

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----==_mimepart_5f0ddc1e24b8d_48973fccda4cd95c250965-- From nobody Tue Jul 14 09:29:47 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA933A0A5E for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:29:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bb3l4r77sYol for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6BB63A09E3 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.55]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D806E1E29 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:29:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594744182; bh=mhAJC1j5KZ7fK7fEheEAlvSD4IR+f3Syl4L8x+mT4aU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Lopz/AYujhomK6ErudOl5jqU3/UnAN6yiyWJKORwVDOByThonUSYsgY1RDj2C8Mm8 rxPqKVZUXNWdYzAmwpFjLhTVjTXydct4BUcWO7OMYpmPpg8nW7dFFMa5MOIEFBm+J9 a2Ee0xC5pCNYyldzvkVS2aY5E8UXnTZLuSZugwF8= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:29:42 -0700 From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] disable_active_migration with SPA (#3765) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0ddd76d1070_ad53f9e500cd96433803a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:29:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0ddd76d1070_ad53f9e500cd96433803a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for showing the cases, @MikeBishop. You can probably split second bullet into 2a (any change in 2-tuple can route to a different backend) and 2b (change to a different network can route to a different backend -- I am thinking of BGP-as-a-load-balancer). So you have: * (1) "don't change port" (but since clients are unlikely to deliberately try changing ports, it is "don't change address") * (2a) "don't change address" * (2b) "don't change network/interface" * (3) "don't change network/interface" Bullets 1/2a/2b are load balancer concerns, and are very different from bullet 3 case. In fact, you can have deployments where both bullet 1/2a/2b and bullet 3 concerns are true at the same time. SPA helps with bullet 1/2a/2b case by removing the load balancer from routing, when the server can provide its own direct IP address. So bullet 1/2a/2b concerns no longer apply to any packet sent to SPA. After/during a change to SPA, only case 3 ("don't change network/interface") can matter. Before the change to SPA, what really matters is whether there is an SPA to change to. * If there is an SPA, the client will likely change to it quickly, so it probably does not matter which option one chooses while on handshake address. * If there is no SPA, "don't change network/interface" will probably be good enough, since changing addresses within the same network is rare. But I can be easily persuaded to entertain a different pov here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3765#issuecomment-658280745 ----==_mimepart_5f0ddd76d1070_ad53f9e500cd96433803a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks for showing the cases, @MikeBishop.

You can probably split second bullet into 2a (any change in 2-tuple can route to a different backend) and 2b (change to a different network can route to a different backend -- I am thinking of BGP-as-a-load-balancer).

So you have:

  • (1) "don't change port" (but since clients are unlikely to deliberately try changing ports, it is "don't change address")
  • (2a) "don't change address"
  • (2b) "don't change network/interface"
  • (3) "don't change network/interface"

Bullets 1/2a/2b are load balancer concerns, and are very different from bullet 3 case. In fact, you can have deployments where both bullet 1/2a/2b and bullet 3 concerns are true at the same time.

SPA helps with bullet 1/2a/2b case by removing the load balancer from routing, when the server can provide its own direct IP address. So bullet 1/2a/2b concerns no longer apply to any packet sent to SPA.

After/during a change to SPA, only case 3 ("don't change network/interface") can matter.

Before the change to SPA, what really matters is whether there is an SPA to change to.

  • If there is an SPA, the client will likely change to it quickly, so it probably does not matter which option one chooses while on handshake address.
  • If there is no SPA, "don't change network/interface" will probably be good enough, since changing addresses within the same network is rare. But I can be easily persuaded to entertain a different pov here.

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PTO packets always have to be ACK-eliciting, not just during the handshake, per existing text:
"When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet
in the packet number space as a probe,..."

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 14 10:20:56 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C293A0BCA for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:20:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GWII6g5C3a_o for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99B8A3A0B5E for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.112.13]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE3F660A58 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:20:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594747253; bh=L6UHGFivSGAyV60HmOGnd96iO0+piDypA3LjJC3yK9I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=G/RlfTckf8aUphr27AEZqH7qvtg0yEAsOeE8ZUKMwSlqs12H52OisV1KZVx9ibK4I tyn9Bk1lsu8pvWXEFUdPY9NCIBSTVpDG2sB8q8I8jSDhs8t8sCDRVHHRcOvw8fqTry Rj2l8NmFWrvvhleU685BWrwj+3neQYv53ohoHZbs= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:20:53 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Desirable behavior when it takes time to derive the traffic keys for the next PN space (#3821) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0de975d08d7_6a603fc3fa6cd95c50731"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 17:20:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0de975d08d7_6a603fc3fa6cd95c50731 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett I agree that the there is no design changes necessary to the recovery draft. The crux of the problem is the TLS draft. It currently states: > As keys at a given encryption level become available to TLS, TLS indicates to QUIC that reading or writing keys at that encryption level are available. These events are not asynchronous; __they always occur immediately after TLS is provided with new handshake bytes, or after TLS produces handshake bytes__. ([section 4.1.4](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#section-4.1.4-1)) However, contrary to what the TLS draft says, Chrome (and IIUC what @martinthomson says, Firefox also) processes the TLS handshake messages containing the certificate chain in an asynchronous manner. Consider the following example, where a web browser receives three packets: * Handshake (PN=1, EncryptedExtensions) * Handshake (PN=2, Certificate, CertificateVerify, Finished) * 1-RTT (PN=3, NewSessionTicket) * (30ms later) * receives Handshake (PN=4, PTO) The TLS draft suggests that client would be processing PN=3 before PN=4, because the browser would process the TLS handshake transcript synchronously and therefore it would have the 1-RTT keys when it recognizes PN=3 for the first time. But the reality is that, if the browser takes 100ms to verify the certificate chain, the client buffers PN=3, acking PN=4 before PN=3, even though the interval between PN=3 and PN=4 is greater than max_ack_delay. As can be seen, this is an observable behavior from the server-side. Therefore, we need to fix the TLS draft at least (assuming that we agree that browsers are doing the correct thing). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@ianswett I agree that the there is no design changes necessary to the recovery draft.

The crux of the problem is the TLS draft. It currently states:

As keys at a given encryption level become available to TLS, TLS indicates to QUIC that reading or writing keys at that encryption level are available. These events are not asynchronous; they always occur immediately after TLS is provided with new handshake bytes, or after TLS produces handshake bytes. (section 4.1.4)

However, contrary to what the TLS draft says, Chrome (and IIUC what @martinthomson says, Firefox also) processes the TLS handshake messages containing the certificate chain in an asynchronous manner.

Consider the following example, where a web browser receives three packets:

  • Handshake (PN=1, EncryptedExtensions)
  • Handshake (PN=2, Certificate, CertificateVerify, Finished)
  • 1-RTT (PN=3, NewSessionTicket)
  • (30ms later)
  • receives Handshake (PN=4, PTO)

The TLS draft suggests that client would be processing PN=3 before PN=4, because the browser would process the TLS handshake transcript synchronously and therefore it would have the 1-RTT keys when it recognizes PN=3 for the first time.

But the reality is that, if the browser takes 100ms to verify the certificate chain, the client buffers PN=3, acking PN=4 before PN=3, even though the interval between PN=3 and PN=4 is greater than max_ack_delay.

As can be seen, this is an observable behavior from the server-side.

Therefore, we need to fix the TLS draft at least (assuming that we agree that browsers are doing the correct thing).

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One more note is that the RTT samples can be greatly inflated if a packet(ie: the Initial) is lost and the PTO fires to retransmit the data, and that causes the previously buffered Handshake packets to be acknowledged. Coalescing an ack-eliciting Handshake packet with the Initial typically mitigates this, as long as it's processed before the buffered packets. Since coalescing is already an optimization in the draft, it may be worth a note that it can prevent inflated RTT samples.

We've observed some cases where this causes the handshake to timeout because the server's PTO is so long, and our handshake timeout is fairly short(9 or 10 seconds).

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@nharper pointed me to this text, which could add confustion on this point.

Not all changes of peer address are intentional, or active, migrations. The peer could experience NAT rebinding: a change of address due to a middlebox, usually a NAT, allocating a new outgoing port or even a new outgoing IP address for a flow. An endpoint MUST perform path validation ({{migrate-validate}}) if it detects any change to a peer's address, unless it has previously validated that address.
https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/blob/master/draft-ietf-quic-transport.md#connection-migration-migration

My current reading is that you don't have to reset the congestion controller if you're pretty sure it's a NAT rebind, but you still need to perform path validation. Is that correct?

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This aligns the calculation with the PTO calculation, which is what persistent congestion is based off.

Fixes #3899

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 14 11:31:46 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2C23A0847 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:31:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SPQCogCDSJmZ for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66D873A082E for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.102]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF708C0328 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:31:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594751502; bh=ZisJ26uiBbrXGBPQUhvs68I4+Rk40t0tYAEazQO6GpY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fIFf5osOp7WPRCWB1ear9hlS7gEtdWSuGYivlqxySZ591L27n5Pl8KgRBY0sGGDZK TFm0HNv8pQI17cMTcLfFeCCjZ+P/ZQfD6lBRQjU/lt85bwl2Ap9NeqgRNbDPp6AE/f Y+Gd/RzuBwfGEFLnHWqQRvLrWJ0x62lWmwW0yXh4= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:31:42 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Desirable behavior when it takes time to derive the traffic keys for the next PN space (#3821) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0dfa0e70633_588a3ff92eccd960143877"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:31:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0dfa0e70633_588a3ff92eccd960143877 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The discussion about RTT estimate is interesting. I'm not sure about the Initial vs. Handshake case, but when the client spends X milliseconds (e.g. X=100) verifying the certificate chain at the same time buffering 0.5 RTT data it receives, then the server would obtain an RTT sample of `X - max_ack_delay` milliseconds (e.g., 75 ms). That's not great. One way of resolving the issue would be to not cap ack_delay using max_ack_delay for ApplicationData packets that were sent during the handshake. The rationale for not activating PTO for 1-RTT packets during the handshake is that the peer might not immediately have the necessary keys to process those packets. We assume the peer to buffer such packets. When the sender has such an assumption, it does not really make sense to cap the ack_delay. I think doing something like that would be fine, even though I would not push on recommending such a strategy. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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The discussion about RTT estimate is interesting. I'm not sure about the Initial vs. Handshake case, but when the client spends X milliseconds (e.g. X=100) verifying the certificate chain at the same time buffering 0.5 RTT data it receives, then the server would obtain an RTT sample of X - max_ack_delay milliseconds (e.g., 75 ms). That's not great.

One way of resolving the issue would be to not cap ack_delay using max_ack_delay for ApplicationData packets that were sent during the handshake. The rationale for not activating PTO for 1-RTT packets during the handshake is that the peer might not immediately have the necessary keys to process those packets. We assume the peer to buffer such packets. When the sender has such an assumption, it does not really make sense to cap the ack_delay.

I think doing something like that would be fine, even though I would not push on recommending such a strategy.

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----==_mimepart_5f0dfa0e70633_588a3ff92eccd960143877-- From nobody Tue Jul 14 11:31:55 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7393A0848 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:31:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2nUMGcfh_HMO for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F296F3A0847 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-edec459.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-edec459.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.32]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FF3E1130 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:31:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594751510; bh=dRX3OuL39nuuy+qCIRBg6z/sCYGIn4kb+6lS3gtyjfY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=PpPGv9xMnM25+ccuYXveO/PmY3WncV6ogbNlwcgWidKpnTk0btMwIMisvSGFH7kqo d2laOC01O9ciTw6dhvvet84trqeKW76pPPx1uVkycF1/ZVy3H2gyR5cpyWo+BNTg62 6qMirRuPUwD9IuDu3ElLfP/Wsi7bIx318S/LJ7AQ= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:31:50 -0700 From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] disable_active_migration with SPA (#3765) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0dfa1617207_437a3ff3110cd96c125851"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:31:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0dfa1617207_437a3ff3110cd96c125851 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think I have a very different perspective on what @igorlord is saying above. From my perspective, if I'm 95% of the way done fetching a resource that I would need to restart from the beginning, I'm more than willing to have a suboptimal experience finishing that 5% than start over from the beginning. I would imagine that network attachment changes will result in the following behavior: 1. Migrate currently active (not idle) connections to the new attachment 2. Bring up new connections from scratch on the new attachment for new requests 3. Transition everything we can to those new connections and close down the old ones once their transfers have completed 4. Have some threshold (likely bytes, but maybe percentage) beyond which we will just use the new connection and not the migrated one if it's not providing equivalent performance to what we had before Prohibiting us from migrating here (especially in the embedded CDN node case) is probably something that we should discuss elsewhere as it's a bit orthogonal to this topic. However, I think the key here, as we talk about use cases that are important to handle and cannot be handled via an extension, is that I don't think `disable_active_migration` was introduced to be an advisory "you probably shouldn't try to migrate because I don't think you'll have a good time if you do", we were pretty clear that this was a "disallow this, if you do it we will ignore your packets and that might break your connection". Clients are already expected to probe (if they can) and use those measurements to make good choices, it's already understood that some network topologies might result in a bad time if you attempt to migrate, and often the choice will be between a connection that's going to fail vs. a suboptimal connection. Someone who doesn't want to allow migration to a different network attachment can simply ignore the probing packets that come in from those other attachments. Prohibiting migration entirely (or building a whole new scheme for prohibiting different types of migration) seems quite excessive in that case. To summarize: - While I think it would be fine to generalize the "disable_active_migration" flag to cover SPA per-address as well, I don't think that we need the additional levels (although thank you @MikeBishop as it's really nice to see them listed out) outside of an extension. - Again, that's _if_ we decide there's a reason to do something other than the consensus already reached. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3765#issuecomment-658341864 ----==_mimepart_5f0dfa1617207_437a3ff3110cd96c125851 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think I have a very different perspective on what @igorlord is saying above. From my perspective, if I'm 95% of the way done fetching a resource that I would need to restart from the beginning, I'm more than willing to have a suboptimal experience finishing that 5% than start over from the beginning. I would imagine that network attachment changes will result in the following behavior:

  1. Migrate currently active (not idle) connections to the new attachment
  2. Bring up new connections from scratch on the new attachment for new requests
  3. Transition everything we can to those new connections and close down the old ones once their transfers have completed
  4. Have some threshold (likely bytes, but maybe percentage) beyond which we will just use the new connection and not the migrated one if it's not providing equivalent performance to what we had before

Prohibiting us from migrating here (especially in the embedded CDN node case) is probably something that we should discuss elsewhere as it's a bit orthogonal to this topic.

However, I think the key here, as we talk about use cases that are important to handle and cannot be handled via an extension, is that I don't think disable_active_migration was introduced to be an advisory "you probably shouldn't try to migrate because I don't think you'll have a good time if you do", we were pretty clear that this was a "disallow this, if you do it we will ignore your packets and that might break your connection". Clients are already expected to probe (if they can) and use those measurements to make good choices, it's already understood that some network topologies might result in a bad time if you attempt to migrate, and often the choice will be between a connection that's going to fail vs. a suboptimal connection.

Someone who doesn't want to allow migration to a different network attachment can simply ignore the probing packets that come in from those other attachments. Prohibiting migration entirely (or building a whole new scheme for prohibiting different types of migration) seems quite excessive in that case.

To summarize:

  • While I think it would be fine to generalize the "disable_active_migration" flag to cover SPA per-address as well, I don't think that we need the additional levels (although thank you @MikeBishop as it's really nice to see them listed out) outside of an extension.

  • Again, that's if we decide there's a reason to do something other than the consensus already reached.

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= @ianswett raises a good point about inflated RTTs. @kazuho's point about m= ax_ack_delay actually exposes a grey area in the current semantics of that = parameter. It is expected to be the maximum delay that the endpoint introdu= ces. Other delay is supposed to be considered to be part of the "path". Thi= s is a situation where that assumption doesn't hold well. Separately, repor= ting this delay as part of ack_delay assumes that the implementation timest= amps the packet when received at the endpoint. Meaning that if the endpoint= actually does the cert verification synchronously, and does not read from = the socket until that is complete, then it will need to read kernel receive= times. (This also assumes that an endpoint is expected to timestamp the pa= cket on receipt, not on decryption, which is very much how most stacks will= do it, but there's not much difference at the moment in the common case be= tween these two times.)

I'm tempted to say that we don't try to solve this in the protocol yet. = Let's experiment with strategies that we think might work in implementation= s, share notes, and come back to the spec when we have a good answer. For t= he time being, we expect that the delays at the clients should not be super= common, and even when it is the case, a couple of RTT samples should not s= ignificantly sway the RTT. I'm ok with that.

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  1. Move "A client that is unable to retry requests [...]" sentence from
    the beginning of an entirely unrelated paragraph to somewhere more
    appropriate.

  2. Change Push ID requirement on subsequent GOAWAY frames. This was
    presumably an oversight, because "An endpoint MAY send multiple GOAWAY
    frames indicating different identifiers [...]" paragraph above is pretty
    clear and covers both directions already.

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  • [HTTP/3] [editorial] Minor fix in GOAWAY wording.

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I agree with Jana that disabling persistent congestion before the handshake would be quite aggressive and quite different from TCP, so I'd prefer to avoid that.

I was thinking persistent congestion was a timer that would be started when a packet is sent, but it's a time interval, so I agree the PR is not sufficient as is. I'll update it along the lines of Jana's suggestion, which is what I intended.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5078,6 +5086,7 @@ Preferred Address {
   IPv4 Port (16),
   IPv6 Address (128),
   IPv6 Port (16),
+  Disable Migration (8),

That was my intent. I don't really care which way it's pointed, but pointing the TP and the TP-field in opposite directions is needlessly confusing.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -5078,6 +5086,7 @@ Preferred Address {
   IPv4 Port (16),
   IPv6 Address (128),
   IPv6 Port (16),
+  Disable Migration (8),

Agreed, it would be nice to have them be in the same direction (and especially the name "Disable Active Migration" since they have the same meaning)

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2178,12 +2180,16 @@ before the handshake is confirmed, as defined in section 4.1.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.
 
 If the peer sent the disable_active_migration transport parameter, an endpoint
 also MUST NOT send packets (including probing packets; see {{probing}}) from a
-different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. An
-endpoint that has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has
-nonetheless migrated to a different remote address MUST either drop the incoming
-packets on that path without generating a stateless reset or proceed with path
-validation and allow the peer to migrate. Generating a stateless reset or
-closing the connection would allow third parties in the network to cause
+different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. If
+the server sets the Disable Migration field in the preferred_address transport
+parameter, the client MUST NOT send packets from a different local address to

That's a totally different discussion that we've had a few times already. Happy to have it again, but let's do that in the issue, or a different issue, but certainly not in this PR.

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@ekinnear commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2178,12 +2180,16 @@ before the handshake is confirmed, as defined in section 4.1.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}.
 
 If the peer sent the disable_active_migration transport parameter, an endpoint
 also MUST NOT send packets (including probing packets; see {{probing}}) from a
-different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. An
-endpoint that has sent this transport parameter, but detects that a peer has
-nonetheless migrated to a different remote address MUST either drop the incoming
-packets on that path without generating a stateless reset or proceed with path
-validation and allow the peer to migrate. Generating a stateless reset or
-closing the connection would allow third parties in the network to cause
+different local address to the address the peer used during the handshake. If
+the server sets the Disable Migration field in the preferred_address transport
+parameter, the client MUST NOT send packets from a different local address to
+the server's preferred address.

I don't know that we want to tackle network interfaces here, that's a much larger thing. Let's keep that separate and cover the regular TP too if we decide to do that?

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Can you say more about why you don't see this as an issue? Is it because this use case is most likely during the handshake? Or is there some other linkability already present that makes this less of an issue? regards, Ted

Both, actually. This occurs during the handshake, when addresses are required to be stable. Unless you're running a large number of parallel connections, all CIDs used on that 4-tuple during the handshake belong to the same connection with very high probability. You can break that linkage by deliberately changing CID and port at the same time, but you can't do that until the handshake is confirmed. If you want the linkage broken, you need to do that jump post-handshake anyway.

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Is it becaus= e=0D > this use case is most likely during the handshake? Or is there some oth= er=0D > linkability already present that makes this less of an issue? regards, = Ted=0D >=0D > Both, actually. This occurs during the handshake, when addresses are=0D= > required to be stable. Unless you're running a large number of parallel= =0D > connections, all CIDs used on that 4-tuple during the handshake belong = to=0D > the same connection with very high probability.=0D >=0D I think "high probability" is probably app-dependent, because there may b= e=0D cases where there are significant numbers of parallel connections. In th= e=0D case of proxied queries, for example, the use of the same 4-tuple but a=0D= different CID could turn out to be common, because the proxy may prefer t= o=0D keep traffic from its different clients separate even if they could be=0D= served by the same upstream server.=0D =0D A DNS example: if you have an DNS resolver talking to an upstream proxy = or=0D a common authoritative server, that resolver may want to set a different=0D= Client Subnet for different query streams, so that input can be used to=0D= determine the preferred reply.*=0D =0D > You can break that linkage by deliberately changing CID and port at the= =0D > same time, but you can't do that until the handshake is confirmed. If y= ou=0D > want the linkage broken, you need to do that jump post-handshake anyway= .=0D >=0D In the presence of a NAT or CGNAT, there could be interesting interaction= =0D with the dwell timers in the state table of the middlebox. If you change= =0D it too late, the middlebox may recycle the most recently freed port, whic= h=0D could result in you getting the same 4-tuple to an observer on that part = of=0D the path.=0D =0D Speaking strictly as an individual, I think using a single CID per=0D coalesced packet as Christian prefers is cleaner and leaves open app=0D behaviors we may not have yet identified.=0D =0D regards=0D =0D Ted=0D =0D *I'm not a big fan of Client Subnet, and these particular parallel=0D connections may or may not pose a risk; it's just a proxy situation where= =0D the parallelism might occur.=0D =0D =0D =0D > =E2=80=94=0D > You are receiving this because you commented.=0D > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub=0D > ,=0D > or unsubscribe=0D > =0D > .=0D >=0D =0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3800#issuecomment-658425864= ----==_mimepart_5f0e253785a33_54893fa4b2ccd96821503c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=0D Hi Mike,
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=0D > linkability already present that makes this less of an issue? regard= s, Ted
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=0D > Both, actually. This occurs during the handshake, when addresses are=
=0D > required to be stable. Unless you're running a large number of p= arallel
=0D > connections, all CIDs used on that 4-tuple during the handshake belo= ng to
=0D > the same connection with very high probability.
=0D >
=0D I think "high probability" is probably app-dependent, because t= here may be
=0D cases where there are significant numbers of parallel connections. In th= e
=0D case of proxied queries, for example, the use of the same 4-tuple but a=0D different CID could turn out to be common, because the proxy may prefer t= o
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=0D >
=0D In the presence of a NAT or CGNAT, there could be interesting interaction=
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=0D could result in you getting the same 4-tuple to an observer on that part = of
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=0D
=0D Speaking strictly as an individual, I think using a single CID per
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=0D
=0D regards
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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5f0e253785a33_54893fa4b2ccd96821503c-- From nobody Tue Jul 14 14:54:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2423A07B7 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 14:54:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.697 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.697 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28TyHIdfZFrV for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 14:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAC4A3A07B9 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 14:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.22.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032396E0050 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 14:54:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594763662; bh=BzwbgawIf0u7XtQUY5rEGd1o58Kcy+vlNtk/Ks5lVtw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WbDBcrvMoUb0tiIpdo+MO5Fx2jPa6no1D0n148uDBbuy+XZx4wM2/95FeGlQZ1GeK wKK3qT85aES0C2svac/0bD9HR1vx6m0ewWons2ZwkJh+GcfMTQo858jOAoTxBOHDG4 4m4lL/k5qeUhV96deIEzy6n0dPJZapplyp0e/9jM= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 14:54:21 -0700 From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] disable_active_migration with SPA (#3765) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0e298de4da7_6f833fb7076cd95c17142a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:54:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0e298de4da7_6f833fb7076cd95c17142a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ekinnear Thanks for a great discussion of the issue. I agree, there are few problems that cannot be solved with a robust "happy eyeballs" implementation. I'd say that if your client implements such "happy eyeballs" for every migration, establishing a new connection as well the migrating the original one, you do not need `disable_active_migration` in any of its forms. I wonder what benefit `disable_active_migration` can possibly offer for a robust "happy eyeballs" client like that. But what are less sophisticated clients supposed to do? I am thinking of clients that have only one connection to each host open at a time. You say that you would prefer to finish downloading those 5% of the object from a slow server. But what if that server knew that it would not serve any bytes to a client located in a different network (legally prohibited)? Would you care to know about it before the migration? How would that server let you know (either, ideally, before the migration or after the migration w/o forcing you to time out)? P.S. The current text says that after a receipt of `disable_active_migration`, the client MUST NOT migrate, but it does _not_ say that the server "will ignore your packets". Instead, it says that the server may either drop packets or proceed with the path validation and allow the migration. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3765#issuecomment-658432704 ----==_mimepart_5f0e298de4da7_6f833fb7076cd95c17142a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ekinnear Thanks for a great discussion of the issue. I agree, there are few problems that cannot be solved with a robust "happy eyeballs" implementation.

I'd say that if your client implements such "happy eyeballs" for every migration, establishing a new connection as well the migrating the original one, you do not need disable_active_migration in any of its forms. I wonder what benefit disable_active_migration can possibly offer for a robust "happy eyeballs" client like that.

But what are less sophisticated clients supposed to do? I am thinking of clients that have only one connection to each host open at a time.

You say that you would prefer to finish downloading those 5% of the object from a slow server. But what if that server knew that it would not serve any bytes to a client located in a different network (legally prohibited)? Would you care to know about it before the migration? How would that server let you know (either, ideally, before the migration or after the migration w/o forcing you to time out)?

P.S.
The current text says that after a receipt of disable_active_migration, the client MUST NOT migrate, but it does not say that the server "will ignore your packets". Instead, it says that the server may either drop packets or proceed with the path validation and allow the migration.

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@MikeBishop's PR exposes this issue that I don't see how we can get around trivially: Yeah, this is getting tricky. A server that wants to use SPA with a different address family and does not support migration has to deal with the case of the client's address changing when speaking to the SPA on a different address family. This is not different than migration, FWIW, and you'd have to do (i) the PATH_CHALLENGE/RESPONSE dance, (ii) ensure that the interface is the same as it was (how does a server ensure this anyway?)

I'm not sure that we need to take on this larger problem, which can be made into an extension, this late in the process.

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The Version Negotiation packet described in this document is not integrity-protected; it only has modest protection against insertion by off-path -attackers. QUIC versions MUST define a mechanism that authenticates the values -it contains. +attackers. A QUIC version that uses a Version Negotiation packet MUST define a One could still argue that QUIC v1 "uses" the VN packet to indicate lack of support. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3871#pullrequestreview-448500527 ----==_mimepart_5f0e2ce2208fb_150d3fb4f7ecd95c256588 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -334,8 +334,8 @@ requires that middleboxes retain state for every connection ID they see.
 
 The Version Negotiation packet described in this document is not
 integrity-protected; it only has modest protection against insertion by off-path
-attackers.  QUIC versions MUST define a mechanism that authenticates the values
-it contains.
+attackers.  A QUIC version that uses a Version Negotiation packet MUST define a

One could still argue that QUIC v1 "uses" the VN packet to indicate lack of support.

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(#3834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0e3115e49d_39893f7e1c8cd96037524"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:26:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0e3115e49d_39893f7e1c8cd96037524 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is sounding like a design change, is that accurate? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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This is sounding like a design change, is that accurate?

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----==_mimepart_5f0e3115e49d_39893f7e1c8cd96037524-- From nobody Tue Jul 14 15:34:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1943A0965 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:34:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jz6P6OcfvtUP for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 477593A0966 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930AA520029 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:33:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594766038; bh=0xNI+pwd8V7RPDfm4uU8ht/0LgScS5YxR5+7zzWIwbg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fhOMVIOzrxHbB5vw7cyK7E3r2ibjkpVH4KJmXSYy/Z7Zqe1BHqwx8aHs/tkSdxBKV cdoDDFMKW+rF6XKs5XN8hn8jmRYRJrfwp2+7TjjMt39u/xKr0zq606qU1wBUYLf8oE jN0IwCSanJxqoXIMw/O35NlS+VTCgbUaUkjrISOg= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:33:58 -0700 From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Minor inconsistency of error when MAX_STREAMS exceeds 2^60 (#3781) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0e32d683c0d_396d3fbb778cd968112887"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:34:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0e32d683c0d_396d3fbb778cd968112887 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would be happy with a single error too. I'm not fussy about the actual code used as long as the spec is clear and consistent. That means that we'd need to reduce STREAMS_BLOCKED to one error code too, and potentially any other situation that allows either. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3781#issuecomment-658446153 ----==_mimepart_5f0e32d683c0d_396d3fbb778cd968112887 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I would be happy with a single error too. I'm not fussy about the actual code used as long as the spec is clear and consistent. That means that we'd need to reduce STREAMS_BLOCKED to one error code too, and potentially any other situation that allows either.

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----==_mimepart_5f0e32d683c0d_396d3fbb778cd968112887-- From nobody Tue Jul 14 15:34:37 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E603A0965 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:34:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=2.059, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id km_8favh4TcB for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED7DB3A0964 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-e8b54ca.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-e8b54ca.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.39]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B328C0ABA for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:34:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594766072; bh=GALT/vjjS7VfQz7bQvM7msevmshRHtXXmAgZoFeMMoQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=I0YUGoqrTGYkW4t79ruq8O3xk3DZQTK6tuh7txAy22LT7MkhuLeTMrFSc30SRNE5E 7MHr6yt15lze4ySBdgVocb9vvXVhhRYCGEi2gWfVbEwVVbu6FQtqfr2L+dWSww9DT1 kk7/epDn/JZCsK5QcjanmpTIFpGj2tdU9uGe7M0o= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:34:32 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Closing/draining redundancies (#3907) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0e32f8e3d09_aa13f97d4ccd96c6664e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:34:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0e32f8e3d09_aa13f97d4ccd96c6664e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The section on Immediate Close contains some text that is redundant with the section on the Closing and Draining periods. Factor some of this out. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3907 ----==_mimepart_5f0e32f8e3d09_aa13f97d4ccd96c6664e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The section on Immediate Close contains some text that is redundant with the section on the Closing and Draining periods. Factor some of this out.

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#3907 opened for that.

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The discussion is active, I'm marking this as design.

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https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8c4fe3d99fb185ac0ced223c4b9405fde94db45d Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Apply suggestions from code review Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson Commit: 8b60a676470b4eb51beb3cef6c5c73606f1f90f3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8b60a676470b4eb51beb3cef6c5c73606f1f90f3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into transport/mbishop_wglc Commit: 4bbc69fa482ab5811a2b094413ab66e6220c8162 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4bbc69fa482ab5811a2b094413ab66e6220c8162 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fix grammar, wrap Commit: f2e30d93b472ab3059e24c3ea91d48607e39f772 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f2e30d93b472ab3059e24c3ea91d48607e39f772 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Could swear I fixed this, which probably means a conflict later Commit: fdd42d123b3a3009bb45749f1b55ec7b83b2d3f5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fdd42d123b3a3009bb45749f1b55ec7b83b2d3f5 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-15 (Wed, 15 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3805 from quicwg/transport/mbishop_wglc Massive batch of probably-editorial nits Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/70d1e158a764...fdd42d123b3a From nobody Tue Jul 14 15:43:51 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com 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Merged #3805 into master.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -895,7 +895,28 @@ keeping track of missing packet numbers.
 # Packet Protection {#packet-protection}
 
 As with TLS over TCP, QUIC protects packets with keys derived from the TLS
-handshake, using the AEAD algorithm negotiated by TLS.
+handshake, using the AEAD algorithm {{!AEAD}} negotiated by TLS.
+
+QUIC packets have varying protections depending on their type:
+
+* Version Negotiation packets have no cryptographic protection.
+
+* Retry packets use AEAD_AES_128_GCM to provide protection against accidental
+  modification or insertion by off-path adversaries; see
+  {{retry-integrity}}.
+
+* Initial packets use AEAD_AES_128_GCM with keys derived from the Destination
+  Connection ID field of the client Initial packet; see {{initial-secrets}}.

I put that in the referenced section. I wasn't sure which way to go.

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Closes #3773. Closes #3774. Closes #3787. Commit: fb90c6e9bac22fe9286112530ef2871328fe383f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fb90c6e9bac22fe9286112530ef2871328fe383f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- prohibited Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar Commit: 6e79da0439d8f6ff38f153321fbe9187ed860385 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6e79da0439d8f6ff38f153321fbe9187ed860385 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-15 (Wed, 15 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3810 from quicwg/minimal-guarantee The minimum-information guarantee in invariants Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/fdd42d123b3a...6e79da0439d8 From nobody Tue Jul 14 15:50:33 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341593A0999 for ; 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This just admits that fact. It also indicates why: which essentially boils down to "RAM is cheap". Closes #3722. 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I've done some additional editorial work around some of these as no surrounding text is safe when these edits land. Closes #3856. Commit: fc972928fb64f7cd15057a3dc634940e5a40553f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fc972928fb64f7cd15057a3dc634940e5a40553f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-15 (Wed, 15 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into cherry-pick-ekr-edit Commit: 911c0f9f57119f2843a1118551edc39eb9784025 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/911c0f9f57119f2843a1118551edc39eb9784025 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-15 (Wed, 15 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- stream ID not the field Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar Commit: 2eff5d84a4ab21e60c1ea2e6e46d1d63decce8a8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2eff5d84a4ab21e60c1ea2e6e46d1d63decce8a8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-15 (Wed, 15 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3901 from quicwg/cherry-pick-ekr-edit Cherry-pick from Ekr's WGLC edits Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/1b08aa4d0e3d...2eff5d84a4ab From nobody Tue Jul 14 15:52:57 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B762F3A09AC for ; 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----==_mimepart_5f0e37b267bc6_70493ff4780cd96821892e-- From nobody Tue Jul 14 15:55:11 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1613A0C3B for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:54:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KQdTSFZiJLBG for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E2953A0AC3 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-56fcc46.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-56fcc46.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.102.32]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EBF2811D3 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:54:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594767272; bh=dW9irGEj4E8sPsA6Zfdd7+Eo9vKwTyYO7QnMK6p+6bE=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=guG1kGRJgGCr/sjAxPxolLu1qHYKATfF/ksN+hG/rsgtgTSrOs6Pzb15xqTLL7Dhd 5b/ZVfJLZhEgQZkmnOG5Cf10rgu3v+8SE+1mfmSVAwHAM8tFpqfoN1MOd1qqxq3J4+ Hv/vfVkmcipuDFoA//ldh4rQJssC8Ky1H3JdwDP8= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:54:32 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 2e22c6: Remove a redundant paragraph Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:55:03 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 2e22c63547137bf98f7b3bfded49839440e2f2de https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2e22c63547137bf98f7b3bfded49839440e2f2de Author: ianswett Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Remove a redundant paragraph PTO packets always have to be ACK-eliciting, not just during the handshake, per existing text: "When a PTO timer expires, a sender MUST send at least one ack-eliciting packet in the packet number space as a probe" Commit: fa6a1083084d98b8136d5c0d4f8d5e7b9d8e7fa1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fa6a1083084d98b8136d5c0d4f8d5e7b9d8e7fa1 Author: ianswett Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Remove an "unless" clause, because if there's nothing to send, you don't arm the PTO timer. Commit: 0d949691cf18e910aa88815619326262aaf52e95 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0d949691cf18e910aa88815619326262aaf52e95 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3904 from quicwg/ianswett-all-pto-ack-eliciting Remove a redundant paragraph about PTO Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/2eff5d84a4ab...0d949691cf18 From nobody Tue Jul 14 15:56:52 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8F13A09B1 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:56:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.423 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FUZZY_CREDIT=1.678, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M2q9PdqIeUGX for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1A263A09BB for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-edec459.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-edec459.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.32]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC31281C15 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:56:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594767403; bh=2EI1+souyXfVymecm2G4TvK8k8hKfLWNRiNopcE1KLs=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=ef7mTPno6Qb6vHGQa94JLD0z4sW3WdvM0m06JHL/DcWqsQQRMpFAwTl9BeemUkBB8 qTaTaXvMGdatYyN86cJyzSroK3QJUbcKlqxIDi4O7vkHoFS/2Q2Y6oDQ4/skFuBBdY sICHp1rJLP+LzMvavu1ewtnUU8nIsOnAjuW9ySrA= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:56:43 -0700 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] c04012: Add a section on flow control performance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:56:51 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/magnus-wglc=0D Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts=0D Commit: c040125303cbaa88054c7359aaa7d6ea3075416d=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c040125303cbaa88054c73= 59aaa7d6ea3075416d=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-06-26 (Fri, 26 Jun 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Add a section on flow control performance=0D =0D QUIC doesn't really address the question of tuning flow control very=0D well. This just admits that fact.=0D =0D It also indicates why: which essentially boils down to "RAM is cheap".=0D= =0D Closes #3722.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 972e7e5dac3f5ba1c41f716bb5180e5d743fce2c=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/972e7e5dac3f5ba1c41f71= 6bb5180e5d743fce2c=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Massive batch of probably-editorial nits=0D =0D =0D Commit: e3094fab788fe42ccf4ab6ee4cf023d807da6aee=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e3094fab788fe42ccf4ab6= ee4cf023d807da6aee=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-http.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D M protection-samples.js=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into transport/mbishop_wgl= c=0D =0D =0D Commit: f7b6aab88c9b98000bd91ae3ed817188ffb21fe9=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f7b6aab88c9b98000bd91a= e3ed817188ffb21fe9=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Overzealous=0D =0D =0D Commit: 49ab8cedf1d5b55e2c7c2fbad0b6558afd4c8e8f=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49ab8cedf1d5b55e2c7c2f= bad0b6558afd4c8e8f=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Define preferred_address=0D =0D Closes #3803.=0D =0D =0D Commit: c0c58db5415d3e152e7515435a961c3b4e69e38b=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c0c58db5415d3e152e7515= 435a961c3b4e69e38b=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D What typo?=0D =0D Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop =0D =0D =0D Commit: 54c61ece422b1db4408f3c3dd85be9cf95f0f86a=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/54c61ece422b1db4408f3c= 3dd85be9cf95f0f86a=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D The minimum-information guarantee in invariants=0D =0D This is a reduction of #3787 to the important (and accurate) piece.=0D =0D Closes #3773.=0D Closes #3774.=0D Closes #3787.=0D =0D =0D Commit: fb90c6e9bac22fe9286112530ef2871328fe383f=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fb90c6e9bac22fe9286112= 530ef2871328fe383f=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D prohibited=0D =0D Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar =0D =0D =0D Commit: f9fdab10ce23e66de11ac3447b1040cef39fe24c=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f9fdab10ce23e66de11ac3= 447b1040cef39fe24c=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D For for for=0D =0D =0D Commit: 4a967aa11e096c98f927bd5a9eb29dd6c170edc0=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4a967aa11e096c98f927bd= 5a9eb29dd6c170edc0=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Clarify STOP_SENDING in "Data Sent"=0D =0D =0D Commit: 40f96bb96344c97df9878768ec09a50a6b4e7f86=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/40f96bb96344c97df98787= 68ec09a50a6b4e7f86=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D TLS review=0D =0D =0D Commit: 7962f3e399aef6a95288e6f20b22e980f89cf5be=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7962f3e399aef6a95288e6= f20b22e980f89cf5be=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Reduce and un-separate=0D =0D These two statements are - to the extent that I can best determine -=0D redundant. One is better.=0D =0D Closes #3816.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 2278a54320679745c5ace0d6bd6cd05be3128fcf=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2278a54320679745c5ace0= d6bd6cd05be3128fcf=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Tickets and tokens are not for communication=0D =0D The text here was perhaps a little unclear on this point. The point is=0D= that these don't carry information from server to client or client to=0D server, they carry information from server (previous) to server (next).=0D= =0D Closes #3817.=0D =0D =0D Commit: bd9605974dd60f06af1bebdb3ee3c27440d8e83f=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bd9605974dd60f06af1beb= db3ee3c27440d8e83f=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D tokens and tickets are opaque=0D =0D =0D Commit: b5f313b4d11319c5541da517813dc8ce17772136=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b5f313b4d11319c5541da5= 17813dc8ce17772136=0D Author: Kazuho Oku =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D update kInitialRtt to 333ms, use that constant=0D =0D =0D Commit: fa9f2afff3dca923287bc8429e6066bd93980890=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fa9f2afff3dca923287bc8= 429e6066bd93980890=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Reorder TLS interface summary=0D =0D I came back to this today and found that the ordering was inconsistent=0D= and not sufficiently clear.=0D =0D Changing this so that all the actions for a single endpoint were grouped=0D= seemed to be the best arrangement. All events and actions are as close=0D= as possible in the ordering to the preceding event that caused or=0D enabled it.=0D =0D The application data packets are displayed with a different marking,=0D which helps distinguish those that carry CRYPTO frames.=0D =0D The final implied exchange for Get Handshake was removed. This was, I=0D= think, intended to imply something about session tickets. Without=0D explanation, it is confusing.=0D =0D This doesn't show HANDSHAKE_DONE, nor do I think that it should, because=0D= that is something that the transport does once it gets the Handshake=0D Complete signal.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 9e94c00ed2133f30225fd31b4b7ea3ade8a9d702=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9e94c00ed2133f30225fd3= 1b4b7ea3ade8a9d702=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D A small certificate is good=0D =0D There are a few ways that this can be managed, but it's worth pointing=0D= out why, and some things that might help.=0D =0D Closes #3784.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 2ae16098ac4a98c56ad7d6bc5c5b0cca521b660f=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2ae16098ac4a98c56ad7d6= bc5c5b0cca521b660f=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Reword paragraph on HelloRetryRequest=0D =0D This was a little clumsy.=0D =0D =0D Commit: c7c75414c9f761b5a8875d308938522dd139e565=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c7c75414c9f761b5a8875d= 308938522dd139e565=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Fixup grammarz=0D =0D =0D Commit: b194f64d522074b3ee677bf5325563cdf3bfa124=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b194f64d522074b3ee677b= f5325563cdf3bfa124=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Leaner is good=0D =0D =0D Commit: 14bff7c8f65a3911533d66fecb70f9db6f64ceba=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/14bff7c8f65a3911533d66= fecb70f9db6f64ceba=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Fix description of Version Negotiation=0D =0D As Magnus noted, the description of the first byte is missing, and I=0D also noticed that the Supported Version field was described as following=0D= Version, which is wrong.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 6e638be2da8793e2f410fb5584b096f38914f904=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6e638be2da8793e2f410fb= 5584b096f38914f904=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-07-07 (Tue, 07 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Update draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson =0D =0D =0D Commit: 39e6b42ec95308fec64a01c22716c2f821bcf898=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/39e6b42ec95308fec64a01= c22716c2f821bcf898=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-07-07 (Tue, 07 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Apply suggestions from code review=0D =0D Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson =0D =0D =0D Commit: 1804018ab832a872b35e479b795863cb9241b095=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1804018ab832a872b35e47= 9b795863cb9241b095=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Remove problematic paragraph=0D =0D =0D Commit: 8302a5f914c0ffe1c7a44520140f2aa4d7197c0b=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8302a5f914c0ffe1c7a445= 20140f2aa4d7197c0b=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Reword first part=0D =0D =0D Commit: 9d55480335f0988bc4ca0ba4a793e50cb4011b19=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9d55480335f0988bc4ca0b= a4a793e50cb4011b19=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Split minimum idle timeout period=0D =0D The text as written implied that the actual timeout period was=0D calculated using:=0D =0D ```=0D min(max_idle_timeout[client],=0D max_idle_timeout[server],=0D 3 * PTO)=0D ```=0D This is silly, as 3PTO is usually smaller than the other two values, and=0D= connections would time out too fast.=0D =0D Splitting the text regarding the 3PTO backstop makes this clearer.=0D =0D =0D Commit: d44f3c87218775820808aa5c6357298d7b0753ed=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d44f3c87218775820808aa= 5c6357298d7b0753ed=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Remove the justification (too hard)=0D =0D =0D Commit: 1126251530f1f4d7fa9ae7fb843bdfe95bdf7611=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1126251530f1f4d7fa9ae7= fb843bdfe95bdf7611=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M 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Fixes #3780 Commit: 741d1de572804a1f22cd706b173c4243f3420d05 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/741d1de572804a1f22cd706b173c4243f3420d05 Author: ianswett Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson Commit: 2d9fc395c63de43565fe58ec5d6b991923c3b436 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2d9fc395c63de43565fe58ec5d6b991923c3b436 Author: ianswett Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 576791483ce02c961b435f7274da1d48ed8d76c2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/576791483ce02c961b435f7274da1d48ed8d76c2 Author: ianswett Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3897 from quicwg/ianswett-clarify-pto Clarify what should be sent on PTO Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/cc1de04d52d1...576791483ce0 From nobody Tue Jul 14 16:07:06 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8B63A09E8 for ; 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I think this nicely fits in the bucket of "Future Work" :-)

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Separately, reporting this delay as part of ack_delay assumes that the implementation timestamps the packet when received at the endpoint. Meaning that if the endpoint actually does the cert verification synchronously, and does not read from the socket until that is complete, then it will need to read kernel receive times.

I think we do not need require endpoints doing that. We do not even require endpoints to verify certificate chain asynchronously, meaning that we allow endpoints to simplify their implementation at the risk of performance penalty.

I'd argue that not capping ack_delay during the handshake is strictly better than capping the value all the time, assuming that the client's clock is not drifting. That is because the server would have a better RTT estimate when the client reports the correct numbers. If the client fails to do so, it'd be the same as status quo, where RTT estimate would become larger than the actual value.

All that said, I am totally fine with leaving this an open area that endpoints can experiment.

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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md:

> @@ -252,8 +252,9 @@ Packets for the same QUIC connection might use different connection ID values.
 
 ## Version
 
-QUIC versions are identified with a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte
-order.  Version 0 is reserved for version negotiation (see
+The Version field contains a 32-bit integer, encoded in network byte order.

I'm fine with identifier.

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@hardie

I think "high probability" is probably app-dependent, because there may be cases where there are significant numbers of parallel connections. In the case of proxied queries, for example, the use of the same 4-tuple but a different CID could turn out to be common, because the proxy may prefer to keep traffic from its different clients separate even if they could be served by the same upstream server.

I might be missing something, but if an endpoint wants to cut linkability between the packets used during the handshake and the packets used in 1-RTT, that endpoint has to switch to a new CID after the peer has dropped its Initial and Handshake keys, regardless of the outcome of this issue. That is because if the endpoint switches to a new CID while the peer is still sending Initial or Handshake packets, we allow the peer to use that new CID in the long header packets sent in response.

Therefore, I do not think that requiring endpoints to use one DCID in all the coalesced QUIC packets help us in practice.

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----==_mimepart_5f0e40063e9e5_30973f9097ccd960227471-- From nobody Tue Jul 14 16:48:30 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14DF3A086F for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:48:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YEc39WgM-z6z for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51DD93A086A for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-bb778fb.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-bb778fb.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.102.56]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A3FE0024 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:48:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594770506; bh=eSAbVBHUhClXZi6Ul14Ikt9RE+oK4faLBWsac2JBAWc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oWcbGcY/wFsBuuuEOUummTNL/wafqfOwqfLQyOdlNnEgNjSF8ddkXPPFbZIr6+u9s q9WNn3T7Z/8PpBIr8OzKBqO6z0ewIG8MTZZXx8pixJQWFZzHJ4DstHvl0Hk91ht3jf 4/uRT5oMiKX51Nnj0XKf6XZS0NY8YBtFoS+kAXxI= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:48:26 -0700 From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Mixing connection IDs is OK (#3870) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0e444a32efc_71eb3ff9ea8cd95c23637b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 23:48:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0e444a32efc_71eb3ff9ea8cd95c23637b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @huitema requested changes on this pull request. I do not agree. The connection-ID check is much easier to implement on clients than the connection check, which requires looking up and comparing connection contexts. > @@ -3192,8 +3192,8 @@ packets at the same encryption level. Receivers MAY route based on the information in the first packet contained in a UDP datagram. Senders MUST NOT coalesce QUIC packets for different connections -into a single UDP datagram. Receivers SHOULD ignore any subsequent packets with -a different Destination Connection ID than the first packet in the datagram. +into a single UDP datagram. Receivers SHOULD ignore any subsequent packets for +a different connection than the first packet in the datagram. I do not agree with this change. It complicates packet parsing, for very little practical gain. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3870#pullrequestreview-448537042 ----==_mimepart_5f0e444a32efc_71eb3ff9ea8cd95c23637b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@huitema requested changes on this pull request.

I do not agree. The connection-ID check is much easier to implement on clients than the connection check, which requires looking up and comparing connection contexts.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3192,8 +3192,8 @@ packets at the same encryption level.
 
 Receivers MAY route based on the information in the first packet contained in a
 UDP datagram.  Senders MUST NOT coalesce QUIC packets for different connections
-into a single UDP datagram.  Receivers SHOULD ignore any subsequent packets with
-a different Destination Connection ID than the first packet in the datagram.
+into a single UDP datagram.  Receivers SHOULD ignore any subsequent packets for
+a different connection than the first packet in the datagram.

I do not agree with this change. It complicates packet parsing, for very little practical gain.

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A client could have received and acknowledged a Handshake packet, causing it to discard state for the Initial packet number space, but not sent any ack-eliciting Handshake packets. In this case, the PTO is set from the current time.

This paragraph does not really provide any context that would allow you to infer what the "current time" is. Based on the pseudocode, this time is when SetLossDetectionTimer() is invoked, but that covers a range of cases:

  • When a packet is received and the endpoint is at its anti-amplification limit
  • When an in-flight packet is sent
  • When an ACK is received
  • When the loss detection timer pops
  • When a packet number space is discarded

Of these, the "current time" clause only really applies to the last two, and the last one is the real baseline (because the other only matters if the first was set). I think that this can be more precisely worded to say "In this case, the PTO is set from the time at which the Initial packet number space is discarded." That's far more direct, but I would like others to check my work to ensure that it catches all the cases properly.

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  • Fixing trivial syntax errors.
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Commit Summary

  • now -> now()
  • using ".sent_bytes" instead of undefined ".size"
  • using "continue" instead of "return".
  • using bytes_in_flight instead of words.
  • adding a comment since bytes_in_flight is not defined here yet.
  • adding comment.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1274,7 +1277,8 @@ GetPtoTimeAndSpace():
   duration = (smoothed_rtt + max(4 * rttvar, kGranularity))
       * (2 ^ pto_count)
   // Arm PTO from now when there are no inflight packets.
-  if (no in-flight packets):
+  // bytes_in_flight is defined in the next appendix.
+  if (bytes_in_flight <= 0):

How can bytes_in_flight be negative?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>         if (InCongestionRecovery(packet.time_sent)):
          // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period.
-         return
+         continue

I believe these 3 return are correct, not continue. L1523 says "Do not increase congestion window in recovery period."

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>         if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited()):
          // Do not increase congestion_window if application
          // limited or flow control limited.
-         return
+         continue

Same to above.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>         if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
          // Slow start.
-         congestion_window += packet.size
-         return
+         congestion_window += packet.sent_bytes
+         continue

Might be else, but not continue.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1274,7 +1277,8 @@ GetPtoTimeAndSpace():
   duration = (smoothed_rtt + max(4 * rttvar, kGranularity))
       * (2 ^ pto_count)
   // Arm PTO from now when there are no inflight packets.
-  if (no in-flight packets):
+  // bytes_in_flight is defined in the next appendix.
+  if (bytes_in_flight <= 0):

bytes_in_flight is non negative. But this coding style follows the traditional practice. ;)

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>         if (InCongestionRecovery(packet.time_sent)):
          // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period.
-         return
+         continue

It is guaranteed that all acked packets satisfy InCongestionRecovery? If so, this first return is OK.

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----==_mimepart_5f0e5b9a90b15_6fca3ff15f6cd960137682-- From nobody Tue Jul 14 18:30:12 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71CB3A0C16 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:30:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OLz0k3IF3tzx for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F1E43A0C11 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.108.24]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CF6E012C for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:30:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594776608; bh=lO5Y40ah8fyHO58Q6sFlPW3WL1T1mgrGCGIJaiWh1Ag=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=GP6KsTEljow1Yo14yV0jtFCbqM1oDKnakeo6j89zFugvlKDPm4LIWZiMBV49l9/27 fan+48gLcwiCCSH2eM3hcYb2x1+dsQAObXZYFie9bw9rxWVizlpT1MbrN/aylG2EP6 rCS+o0hISdoCrb+907xPztEKmzlwRkI6G8YnVa7w= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:30:08 -0700 From: Kazu Yamamoto Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fixing recovery pseudocode (#3909) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0e5c20d46bb_13653ff3266cd9601375e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazu-yamamoto X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 01:30:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0e5c20d46bb_13653ff3266cd9601375e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazu-yamamoto commented on this pull request. > if (InCongestionRecovery(packet.time_sent)): // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period. - return + continue To avoid confusion, `return` should not be used in `for`. `return` should be used before `for` by checking a specific packet. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3909#discussion_r454736754 ----==_mimepart_5f0e5c20d46bb_13653ff3266cd9601375e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>         if (InCongestionRecovery(packet.time_sent)):
          // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period.
-         return
+         continue

To avoid confusion, return should not be used in for. return should be used before for by checking a specific packet.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>         if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
          // Slow start.
-         congestion_window += packet.size
-         return
+         congestion_window += packet.sent_bytes
+         continue

But this should not be return! I like else.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>         if (InCongestionRecovery(packet.time_sent)):
          // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period.
-         return
+         continue

bytes_in_flight -= packet.sent_bytes should be evaluated for every packet, right? If so, return is simply wrong.

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----==_mimepart_5f0e5d39771f5_6b1c3fe064ccd95c1771c9-- From nobody Tue Jul 14 18:37:37 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D064F3A0C29 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:37:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 210C4TeGnX6d for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71A5E3A0C28 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C169FE1138 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:37:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594777054; bh=ppKkkTMW5jPNCnqmjxjoFavQtE6iAnJynEkThjsYL3w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TdQ9lxanBxfqZ1TOHH9ujbC6IAcYzYVWVEehdUim3OBjwTkzWAO4CwFJrj2qq1Icr vjWONXXd8ibKE+Nct1OGZuIlUXrB1fqqAEu8sqQ9w7TDjLQMsbwHmbOFTR64WRmq42 P8M3wq3Gq5gIKxiupq8EexpcsqFlu/66Y1euAD9o= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:37:34 -0700 From: Kazu Yamamoto Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fixing recovery pseudocode (#3909) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0e5ddeb1e76_fa83f7efcccd96c952aa"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazu-yamamoto X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 01:37:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0e5ddeb1e76_fa83f7efcccd96c952aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The following code makes sense to me at this moment: ``` OnPacketsAcked(acked_packets): for (packet in acked_packets): // Remove from bytes_in_flight. bytes_in_flight -= packet.sent_bytes // Do not increase congestion_window if application // limited or flow control limited. if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited()) return for (packet in acked_packets): if (InCongestionRecovery(packet.time_sent)): // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period. continue if (congestion_window < ssthresh): // Slow start. congestion_window += packet.sent_bytes else: // Congestion avoidance. congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes / congestion_window ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3909#issuecomment-658495157 ----==_mimepart_5f0e5ddeb1e76_fa83f7efcccd96c952aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The following code makes sense to me at this moment:

   OnPacketsAcked(acked_packets):
     for (packet in acked_packets):
       // Remove from bytes_in_flight.
       bytes_in_flight -= packet.sent_bytes

     // Do not increase congestion_window if application
     // limited or flow control limited.
     if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited())
       return

     for (packet in acked_packets):
       if (InCongestionRecovery(packet.time_sent)):
         // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period.
         continue
       if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
         // Slow start.
         congestion_window += packet.sent_bytes
       else:
         // Congestion avoidance.
         congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes
           / congestion_window

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This also lifts the strong requirement on authenticating the contents of Version Negotiation. QUIC version 1 does not do this and so does not comply with this requirement. The intent was always that only information that is used needs to be authenticated in this way. (This is a tiny bit of evasion as Version Negotiation is used in QUIC version 1 as a signal that a version is not supported, which results in clients abandoning connections.) Closes #3828. Commit: 0f0c2ccc3d606e62bac1fa77e71709d9416330b8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0f0c2ccc3d606e62bac1fa77e71709d9416330b8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Reword Commit: 4ac2b341f40beb5a0a939fcf19b85a3184b89de4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4ac2b341f40beb5a0a939fcf19b85a3184b89de4 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-15 (Wed, 15 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- authenticate but verify Commit: 38a50a59c03b62bf602ce03153dbe8e56bb1fe67 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/38a50a59c03b62bf602ce03153dbe8e56bb1fe67 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-15 (Wed, 15 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Only authenticate if you change Commit: 51c526569736209bef98caf749e02e7e302b38c5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51c526569736209bef98caf749e02e7e302b38c5 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-15 (Wed, 15 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- modification/corruption reword Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar Commit: 07556b024efb3c6aa192c8e1188437b1deb08c0a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/07556b024efb3c6aa192c8e1188437b1deb08c0a Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-15 (Wed, 15 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3871 from quicwg/authenticate-vn-external More about authenticating Version Negotiation Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/0c5083f545f4...07556b024efb From nobody Tue Jul 14 19:20:35 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7BF3A0CF1 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 19:20:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PO3b3_vPCueQ for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 19:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 661533A0CF5 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 19:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2ef7ba1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.16.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4586C6A060A for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 19:20:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594779631; bh=Bvycop+Q+PuwdwgqEiMGU+ldPqR6wtMo7LiFwe/HYzs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cWoVsBoTmyfOd7QKGWnhWRvhMsKbZiIqrV8IYHVNzydSy89QELBe/8U7eIakSsfaS Nq/nFL8F2F1wmRUbgmCbc684huv9nrj53m1a0M3JwHZ9hgUav3r6OPf8C/gxG8O+AG YU+sWJdDaq9T7B1qD2id5M++Y39S7AqAsk8lxeXU= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 19:20:31 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] More about authenticating Version Negotiation (#3871) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0e67ef365df_12d53ffd538cd9681586e5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 02:20:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0e67ef365df_12d53ffd538cd9681586e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #3871 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Apologies for being verbose, but I'm trying to summarize from the top. **Problem**: At a high level, the problem we are discussing here is that an endpoint buffers packets, because it isn't able to read them or write acks for them, and it might take a while to dequeue the buffer. As a result, the acks can be sent much later than when the packets were received at the endpoint, causing the ack_delay to potentially be much higher than max_ack_delay. This inflates the smoothed_rtt and rtt_variance, inflating the PTO, which can cause handshakes to fail (if a "handshake timeout" period is employed). The problem is that the receiver endpoint can take arbitrarily long to respond. The ack_delay variable is meant to signal precisely this -- we tout it as an important distinction from TCP -- and it is useful here, except that it is limited to max_ack_delay in the various RTT estimations. This was done deliberately, allowing for any additional delays to become part of the path delay, with the expectation that such additional delays are outside of the control of the QUIC endpoint and are likely to be recurring. While that remains true, the issue that we are discussing here is an extreme case that occurs during the handshake and is not expected to be recurring. **Proposed Solution:** We use the ack delay signal during the handshake, and acknowledge that we might need to treat ack delays reported during the handshake period as _slightly_ special. Specifically, we can ignore the max_ack_delay, but we still limit the RTT sample to >= min_rtt. An endpoint does this until the handshake is _confirmed_. That is, until the endpoint is certain that the peer has 1RTT read and write keys and therefore does not have to buffer any more packets for lack of keys. **Also:** Separately, the recovery spec currently says don't arm PTO on ApplicationData until `handshake complete`. This should be `handshake confirmed`. This is because handshake completes at a client when it sends a CFIN, after which the client can send 1-RTT data. The CFIN however might get lost and the server might buffer the 1-RTT data until it receives a retransmission of the CFIN. Changing this to `handshake confirmed` makes it so that no PTO is armed on ApplicationData until there's no Initial or Handshake data left in flight. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3821#issuecomment-658507628 ----==_mimepart_5f0e692bc68f6_5223ff3698cd95c20305b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Summarizing my thoughts after discussing this with @ianswett and thinking about this with @kazuho. Apologies for being verbose, but I'm trying to summarize from the top.

Problem:

At a high level, the problem we are discussing here is that an endpoint buffers packets, because it isn't able to read them or write acks for them, and it might take a while to dequeue the buffer. As a result, the acks can be sent much later than when the packets were received at the endpoint, causing the ack_delay to potentially be much higher than max_ack_delay. This inflates the smoothed_rtt and rtt_variance, inflating the PTO, which can cause handshakes to fail (if a "handshake timeout" period is employed).

The problem is that the receiver endpoint can take arbitrarily long to respond. The ack_delay variable is meant to signal precisely this -- we tout it as an important distinction from TCP -- and it is useful here, except that it is limited to max_ack_delay in the various RTT estimations. This was done deliberately, allowing for any additional delays to become part of the path delay, with the expectation that such additional delays are outside of the control of the QUIC endpoint and are likely to be recurring. While that remains true, the issue that we are discussing here is an extreme case that occurs during the handshake and is not expected to be recurring.

Proposed Solution:

We use the ack delay signal during the handshake, and acknowledge that we might need to treat ack delays reported during the handshake period as slightly special. Specifically, we can ignore the max_ack_delay, but we still limit the RTT sample to >= min_rtt. An endpoint does this until the handshake is confirmed. That is, until the endpoint is certain that the peer has 1RTT read and write keys and therefore does not have to buffer any more packets for lack of keys.

Also:

Separately, the recovery spec currently says don't arm PTO on ApplicationData until handshake complete. This should be handshake confirmed. This is because handshake completes at a client when it sends a CFIN, after which the client can send 1-RTT data. The CFIN however might get lost and the server might buffer the 1-RTT data until it receives a retransmission of the CFIN. Changing this to handshake confirmed makes it so that no PTO is armed on ApplicationData until there's no Initial or Handshake data left in flight.

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So, I understand the disconnect now after discussing with @kazuho. This issue is not just about before an initial RTT sample, it's about the case where the network RTT were to similarly reduce later in the connection. In such a case, when loss also happens, the sender could retroactively declare persistent congestion based on the new RTT estimate, while the previous RTT estimate might have caused fewer than 3 PTOs to fire. Specifically, the sender might have sent fewer than 3 packets as PTO responses into the network before marking the network as having persistent congestion.

This seems like a corner case to me that may not be necessary to fix (beyond what is being fixed in #3889). But I want to hear others' opinions.

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----==_mimepart_5f0e70bcc254f_27a13fdc99ecd9604381c2-- From nobody Tue Jul 14 21:02:17 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2061A3A0E50 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:02:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OBZ-XZ03EC7g for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-16.smtp.github.com (out-16.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D774E3A0E4F for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.57]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359F012110D for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:02:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594785734; bh=HkLgxOpmLX3qeX8ettHYFLL/97E+W5jiPJXXqcpchAM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0r6jie3Q8mwfnEr02s7fUVlzTsYI+Bu6ggvtKnCY7renxe9aAFb1tOHdIuAO106qg v1G9c04bhhWpeynRTs0cWC+M4xvTtPUQbxfbR9nf/QJXYTF+V1VmQHal9dcsXvUppF 2LS+pPpC2SQEitdv04qEOpasUQsdbuZYQDisnXQw= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:02:13 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Persistent congestion threshold is unreliable during the early stages of a connection (#3875) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0e7fc5e173a_7e053fd12d0cd9688524b1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 04:02:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0e7fc5e173a_7e053fd12d0cd9688524b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @janaiyengar Thank you for summarizing the issue. Yes, my point was that the current definition of persistent congestion is inaccurate *if* it based on the rationale that the endpoint would have had occasions to send 3 probe packets, because the endpoint might have had a larger RTT estimate before receiving the ACK that triggers the persistent congestion check. That said, in the current computation, we do have the guarantee that the endpoint would have sent at least 2 probe packets, because PTO never decreases by more than 25% when obtaining just one RTT sample. If we think that is enough, I'm fine with going with what we have now in #3889. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3875#issuecomment-658532149 ----==_mimepart_5f0e7fc5e173a_7e053fd12d0cd9688524b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar Thank you for summarizing the issue.

Yes, my point was that the current definition of persistent congestion is inaccurate if it based on the rationale that the endpoint would have had occasions to send 3 probe packets, because the endpoint might have had a larger RTT estimate before receiving the ACK that triggers the persistent congestion check.

That said, in the current computation, we do have the guarantee that the endpoint would have sent at least 2 probe packets, because PTO never decreases by more than 25% when obtaining just one RTT sample. If we think that is enough, I'm fine with going with what we have now in #3889.

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Reconsidering the original point, is the assumption that persistent congestion period is calculated per PN space?

The question is if that assumption has been the intent of the specification. Pseudo-code might imply that (as AreAllPacketsLost takes lost_packets - a per-PN-space value - as an argument), but I do not see any mention regarding PN space in the text itself.

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Regarding @janaiyengar's last point, I've changed the moment that the client starts arming PTO timer for ApplicationData PN space from handshake complete to handshake comfirmed. As Jana states, that is the correct thing to do based on the rationale that we have been using to explain why it should not be armed.

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----==_mimepart_5f0e8b43cd284_4f813ff3ceecd9647050cf-- From nobody Tue Jul 14 22:26:52 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE463A0400 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:26:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VtB1kezg8XbP for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F5483A03FA for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-d93c4b6.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d93c4b6.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.47]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C4F8C0CA9 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:26:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594790808; bh=4+QjJ4ZMepy3niCnFDsoa85dj95mWTvhymRjIdBXZDc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Z9onkE4Layb5XRiBaHGh3Z8oTgSjRW6Dq0LT98TeKv6VjPZxSPqFYgd2wq26AyYmC PkNtqx4B6DWQIwUoH1MpvDSASqH7qba01V3dLnd8dbgZ9lT+DBhnLadl5X2+zIzJep dCgySfymp+nuRtz9VBHIRnpoglCMTLXdvfJMQthY= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:26:48 -0700 From: Junho Choi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fixing recovery pseudocode (#3909) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0e9398d25e1_79833f97712cd95c6698d1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: junhochoi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 05:26:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0e9398d25e1_79833f97712cd95c6698d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The following code makes sense to me at this moment: > > ``` > OnPacketsAcked(acked_packets): > for (packet in acked_packets): > // Remove from bytes_in_flight. > bytes_in_flight -= packet.sent_bytes > > // Do not increase congestion_window if application > // limited or flow control limited. > if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited()) > return > > for (packet in acked_packets): > if (InCongestionRecovery(packet.time_sent)): > // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period. > continue > if (congestion_window < ssthresh): > // Slow start. > congestion_window += packet.sent_bytes > else: > // Congestion avoidance. > congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes > / congestion_window > ``` Oh I see. When I implemented congestion control I used older version of the code. I think we can simplify as follows: ``` OnPacketsAcked(acked_packets): for (packet in acked_packets): OnPacketAcked(packet) OnPacketAcked(packet): // Remove from bytes_in_flight. bytes_in_flight -= packet.sent_bytes // Do not increase congestion_window if application // limited or flow control limited. if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited()) return // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period. if (InCongestionRecovery(packet.time_sent)): return if (congestion_window < ssthresh): // Slow start. congestion_window += packet.sent_bytes else: // Congestion avoidance. congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes / congestion_window ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3909#issuecomment-658553570 ----==_mimepart_5f0e9398d25e1_79833f97712cd95c6698d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The following code makes sense to me at this moment:

   OnPacketsAcked(acked_packets):
     for (packet in acked_packets):
       // Remove from bytes_in_flight.
       bytes_in_flight -= packet.sent_bytes

     // Do not increase congestion_window if application
     // limited or flow control limited.
     if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited())
       return

     for (packet in acked_packets):
       if (InCongestionRecovery(packet.time_sent)):
         // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period.
         continue
       if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
         // Slow start.
         congestion_window += packet.sent_bytes
       else:
         // Congestion avoidance.
         congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes
           / congestion_window

Oh I see. When I implemented congestion control I used older version of the code.
I think we can simplify as follows:

OnPacketsAcked(acked_packets):
    for (packet in acked_packets):
        OnPacketAcked(packet)

OnPacketAcked(packet):
    // Remove from bytes_in_flight.
    bytes_in_flight -= packet.sent_bytes

    // Do not increase congestion_window if application
    // limited or flow control limited.
    if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited())
        return

    // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period.
    if (InCongestionRecovery(packet.time_sent)):
        return

    if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
        // Slow start.
        congestion_window += packet.sent_bytes
    else:
        // Congestion avoidance.
        congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes
            / congestion_window

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 14 23:56:22 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575323A043D for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 23:56:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3MiZeHOirMkt for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 23:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ECDBA3A0433 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 23:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-b2150d3.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b2150d3.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.113.12]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318496603AC for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 23:56:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594796177; bh=t7lhV7j/i/5tj1/PVeS20iimDLnCJObrzNbp5mb4Zt4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=TSDa5e0C6jLrUIKJm+uIIPx5EydJbaKnlyKRqWpLSQ2GeNR0BWWijZzqZHkuypwip gcLueXNW5BrijBfm7noAWkmsdrBqS9zZu9sEqmz+uuH7mGwHzziV2ynLPewPcsJ4bM eth5VQQshPNOFe00SSiJoeHRUZXNNgg2bbkvmYtc= Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 23:56:17 -0700 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 9a7ef2: Make the TLS messages plausible Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 06:56:21 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/version-not Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 9a7ef222035536493a3a00a1efdbcbdf4a645da6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9a7ef222035536493a3a00a1efdbcbdf4a645da6 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-06-10 (Wed, 10 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M protection-samples.js Log Message: ----------- Make the TLS messages plausible Here is the breakdown of the ClientHello: ``` 060040f1 = CRYPTO offset 0, length 241 010000ed = TLS Handshake length 237 0303 = version: TLS 1.2 ebf8fa56f12939b9584a3896472ec40bb863cfd3e86804fe3a47f06a2b69484c = random 00 = legacy_session_id 0004 13011302 = cipher_suites: TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256, TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 0100 = legacy_compression_methods: none 00e0 = extensions length 194 0000 0010 000e 00 000b 6578616d706c652e636f6d = server name: example.com ff01 0001 00 = renegotiation info 000a 0008 0006 001d00170018 = supported groups: 25519, P-256, P-384 0010 0007 000504616c706e = alpn: h3-28 0005 0005 0100000000 = certificate status 0033 0026 0024001d00209370b2c9caa47fbabaf4559fedba753de171fa71f50f1ce15d43e994ec74d748 = key share: 25519 002b 0003 020304 = supported versions: TLS 1.3 000d 0010 000e 0403050306030203080408050806 = signature algorithms: some irrelevant stuff here 002d 0002 0101 = psk modes: psk+dh 001c 0002 4001 = record size limit: max ffa5 0032 = QUIC transport parameters extension 04 08 ffffffffffffffff = initial_max_data 2^62-1 05 04 8000ffff = initial_max_stream_data_bidi_local 2^16-1 07 04 8000ffff = initial_max_stream_data_uni 2^16-1 08 01 10 = initial_max_streams_bidi 16 01 04 80007530 = max_idle_timeout 30s 09 01 10 = initial_max_streams_uni 16 0f 08 8394c8f03e515708 = initial_source_connection_id 06 04 8000ffff = initial_max_stream_data_bidi_remote 2^16-1 ``` The ServerHello was OK, but the framing wasn't. Commit: 0b4681671ced10eece12919d3fd4d6eb5950043c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0b4681671ced10eece12919d3fd4d6eb5950043c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-06-10 (Wed, 10 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Update samples in the draft based on changed content Commit: ab3d19bde401dd8116b5c90ea5351a893a808ab3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ab3d19bde401dd8116b5c90ea5351a893a808ab3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-06-11 (Thu, 11 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M protection-samples.js Log Message: ----------- Fix bad extension length Commit: 750f3d2e50bd76127819eac7007fed351b52340c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/750f3d2e50bd76127819eac7007fed351b52340c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-06-24 (Wed, 24 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Encryption level of CRYPTO determines packet type The text implied the opposite. Commit: 6b3f6fbcf1cf9255ebdc6190e5fa8153e058ce72 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6b3f6fbcf1cf9255ebdc6190e5fa8153e058ce72 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-06-24 (Wed, 24 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Packets might be integrity protected Or MAY, but let's leave this probabilistic, because in practice there is no uncertainty: packets are protected. I've changed the header of the section because it isn't just about the header: the subsections are about the specific headers, but this one is about packets as a whole. Commit: 2961b77dc1742f337343134bf455405688eb47c3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2961b77dc1742f337343134bf455405688eb47c3 Author: Benjamin Saunders Date: 2020-06-29 (Mon, 29 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update references to removed function Commit: 2e878b919cc6a78967950a710288e82a26c66968 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2e878b919cc6a78967950a710288e82a26c66968 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Stop using CID acronym We've been pretty disciplined about using "connection ID", except for the text on flow labels and one mention in the diagram for preferred_address. Of course, the mentions in the flow label text were specifically for the "Destination Connection ID field", so that is what I used there. Closes #3794. Commit: 173f04ff83ab8d086d1c5b1dce2c3d82c7b7a498 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/173f04ff83ab8d086d1c5b1dce2c3d82c7b7a498 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3796 from quicwg/no-cid Stop using CID acronym Commit: 39b125843495385528f3096b0f454cf781d31662 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/39b125843495385528f3096b0f454cf781d31662 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3786 from quicwg/integrity-invariant Packets might be integrity protected Commit: 667ad9ddd3db9511698ccb38477484a72d2fe3f8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/667ad9ddd3db9511698ccb38477484a72d2fe3f8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3783 from quicwg/encryption-level-bytes Encryption level of CRYPTO determines packet type Commit: a4cb76d1b82ad7797c728574a7886e60c0b9e995 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a4cb76d1b82ad7797c728574a7886e60c0b9e995 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3795 from Ralith/recovery-pseudocode-cleanup Update pseudocode references to removed function DetectLostPackets Commit: 610d213f7e325f8da7e398240c8470c765e22513 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/610d213f7e325f8da7e398240c8470c765e22513 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M protection-samples.js Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3753 from quicwg/fix-chello Use plausible TLS messages Commit: c90601e40d22867ee40b3c7fdea2762ce13379c4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c90601e40d22867ee40b3c7fdea2762ce13379c4 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Roy's suggestion for multiplexing justification Closes #3790. Commit: ff6538a6b79fe786abaae55c0510202403af3df5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ff6538a6b79fe786abaae55c0510202403af3df5 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Cite a source for the 30s timeout Thanks to Lucas for finding the study. Note that I found at least one middlebox with a default timeout of 30s; that was not a home gateway included in this study. Closes #3799. Commit: 49ab8cedf1d5b55e2c7c2fbad0b6558afd4c8e8f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49ab8cedf1d5b55e2c7c2fbad0b6558afd4c8e8f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Define preferred_address Closes #3803. Commit: c0c58db5415d3e152e7515435a961c3b4e69e38b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c0c58db5415d3e152e7515435a961c3b4e69e38b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- What typo? Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop Commit: c2b663f7a9de24b7a74390e5a528aa65d9e5e8ff https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c2b663f7a9de24b7a74390e5a528aa65d9e5e8ff Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clear vestiges of path validation symmetry In early versions of path validation, there was a requirement that PATH_CHALLENGE be sent on the same path. This is, for various reasons, either unnecessary or harmful, so we no longer have that requirement. But there was some residual text that assumed that property. This removes a paragraph citing symmetry directly, and rewords text that assumes return reachability - a property that QUIC no longer provides mechanisms for. Closes #3797. Commit: 8967ffac97b7974bbfc7cd47c3667c2770835f4a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8967ffac97b7974bbfc7cd47c3667c2770835f4a Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3806 from quicwg/30s Cite a source for the 30s timeout Commit: fb702babd8275b765ccd7d3422918a273836f485 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fb702babd8275b765ccd7d3422918a273836f485 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Per RFC 5116 Commit: 5e3723af74412f87907ec50025bd9c7510e8ad27 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5e3723af74412f87907ec50025bd9c7510e8ad27 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3812 from quicwg/transport/aead A in AEAD, per RFC 5116 Commit: ace667763a2dae8884aa13042aab2c55fd74e791 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ace667763a2dae8884aa13042aab2c55fd74e791 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- comman mistake Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop Commit: 7962f3e399aef6a95288e6f20b22e980f89cf5be https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7962f3e399aef6a95288e6f20b22e980f89cf5be Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reduce and un-separate These two statements are - to the extent that I can best determine - redundant. One is better. Closes #3816. Commit: 2278a54320679745c5ace0d6bd6cd05be3128fcf https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2278a54320679745c5ace0d6bd6cd05be3128fcf Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Tickets and tokens are not for communication The text here was perhaps a little unclear on this point. The point is that these don't carry information from server to client or client to server, they carry information from server (previous) to server (next). Closes #3817. Commit: bd9605974dd60f06af1bebdb3ee3c27440d8e83f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bd9605974dd60f06af1bebdb3ee3c27440d8e83f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- tokens and tickets are opaque Commit: b5f313b4d11319c5541da517813dc8ce17772136 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b5f313b4d11319c5541da517813dc8ce17772136 Author: Kazuho Oku Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- update kInitialRtt to 333ms, use that constant Commit: fa9f2afff3dca923287bc8429e6066bd93980890 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fa9f2afff3dca923287bc8429e6066bd93980890 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reorder TLS interface summary I came back to this today and found that the ordering was inconsistent and not sufficiently clear. Changing this so that all the actions for a single endpoint were grouped seemed to be the best arrangement. All events and actions are as close as possible in the ordering to the preceding event that caused or enabled it. The application data packets are displayed with a different marking, which helps distinguish those that carry CRYPTO frames. The final implied exchange for Get Handshake was removed. This was, I think, intended to imply something about session tickets. Without explanation, it is confusing. This doesn't show HANDSHAKE_DONE, nor do I think that it should, because that is something that the transport does once it gets the Handshake Complete signal. Commit: 9e94c00ed2133f30225fd31b4b7ea3ade8a9d702 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9e94c00ed2133f30225fd31b4b7ea3ade8a9d702 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- A small certificate is good There are a few ways that this can be managed, but it's worth pointing out why, and some things that might help. Closes #3784. Commit: c7c75414c9f761b5a8875d308938522dd139e565 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c7c75414c9f761b5a8875d308938522dd139e565 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fixup grammarz Commit: 49b2e4864a3862ef21dd3702159d2bbdd9765cb4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49b2e4864a3862ef21dd3702159d2bbdd9765cb4 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Fix line length Commit: 2315e5efbc06c3b8ae2e9dc265651831aaef6291 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2315e5efbc06c3b8ae2e9dc265651831aaef6291 Author: Jonathan Hoyland Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fix nit Commit: ae8cb066a1763c37ed6f5f05fa8bf71599330c55 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ae8cb066a1763c37ed6f5f05fa8bf71599330c55 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-07 (Tue, 07 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3830 from jhoyla/jhoyla-nits Fix grammar nit Commit: 8302a5f914c0ffe1c7a44520140f2aa4d7197c0b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8302a5f914c0ffe1c7a44520140f2aa4d7197c0b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reword first part Commit: 61dabb193a53311b28aaa2ada21ecdc6e2260cf0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/61dabb193a53311b28aaa2ada21ecdc6e2260cf0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- VN isn't acknowledged, implicitly or otherwise This is a left-over from removing version negotiation from the draft. Closes #3854. Commit: 148f8afbc1fce748a42d2753836a298a74b33ff1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/148f8afbc1fce748a42d2753836a298a74b33ff1 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- A couple of random circumlocations Closes #3846. Commit: d79bdc5b5b74a9a73d38f1eef32fd891036c36af https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d79bdc5b5b74a9a73d38f1eef32fd891036c36af Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove claim about 1-RTT keys This claim isn't necessary, as the statement about suitability is what matters here. Closes #3839. Commit: 9e79a7769529bab3e459d74564b004d9cbdc2d3c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9e79a7769529bab3e459d74564b004d9cbdc2d3c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- If a packet matches a connection, process it Not saying explicitly that was a small oversight. Closes #3837. Commit: 73c4da7ff17069db4374888aafab5c239d250634 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/73c4da7ff17069db4374888aafab5c239d250634 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clearer explanation of caveat on discarding packets Those packets that are not authenticated can be discarded, but only if processing them has no permanent effect on existing state. This attempts to explain that. Closes #3836. Commit: f1b52d999e4d94eab44f39a737d8e2124042ba59 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f1b52d999e4d94eab44f39a737d8e2124042ba59 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Add frames, not packets This uses positive framing for the recommendation to use frames rather than packets. And it makes that recommendation directly, rather than implying it. Closes #3850. Commit: 0a0126edef3d7d4d8f76e8264d7cc1c19e9f1b0e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0a0126edef3d7d4d8f76e8264d7cc1c19e9f1b0e Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3857 from quicwg/vn-implicit-ack VN isn't acknowledged, implicitly or otherwise Commit: fda048dcc0ac7135456e19d36ce9dbbe204c4c2e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fda048dcc0ac7135456e19d36ce9dbbe204c4c2e Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3863 from quicwg/randomlocution A couple of random circumlocations Commit: eb8b076ed58cb17dac824d7ac19e1824de7b6092 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/eb8b076ed58cb17dac824d7ac19e1824de7b6092 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3867 from quicwg/packets-for-connection If a packet matches a connection, process it Commit: 035ab1fac0437990ccd98925abb096719b20fbd8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/035ab1fac0437990ccd98925abb096719b20fbd8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Group 0-RTT sections This adds a short introductory section to the three sections that deal with 0-RTT. That might help contextualize and help contain the spaghetti structure that this section seems to have. Commit: 1266955162fbc9ed9b458755854a4df4407b02bc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1266955162fbc9ed9b458755854a4df4407b02bc Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3809 from quicwg/path-response-path Clear vestiges of path validation symmetry Commit: 1f7ceabb0fd8d2e6491717901409a99b36726001 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1f7ceabb0fd8d2e6491717901409a99b36726001 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Prohibit the offering of TLS <1.3 Just in case this wasn't blindingly obvious. Closes #3878. Commit: 83945b5b70556c0fc9f48b5e1d6d25e7d5c303bb https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/83945b5b70556c0fc9f48b5e1d6d25e7d5c303bb Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Repunctuate Commit: 9d632b0dae8f4eff6def26e96b052128cdb2e542 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9d632b0dae8f4eff6def26e96b052128cdb2e542 Author: Roy T. Fielding Date: 2020-07-09 (Thu, 09 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- do not refer to HTTP/1 as a TCP mapping (#3884) * do not refer to HTTP/1 as a TCP mapping * Rewrap Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop Commit: a96ea27ea8e9487b353e8b683bb295b20cf15d7a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a96ea27ea8e9487b353e8b683bb295b20cf15d7a Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- --comma Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop Commit: 66419264f22443673416df28d983d8018a2df879 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/66419264f22443673416df28d983d8018a2df879 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Context, context, context Commit: 72ccf149b20a67b39cba500e0e84a592f2f0423d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/72ccf149b20a67b39cba500e0e84a592f2f0423d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3888 from quicwg/transport/csplice Repunctuate #3867 Commit: c84501ae6cf7031c29b7d592e05d4d1dd23bf48c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c84501ae6cf7031c29b7d592e05d4d1dd23bf48c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3882 from quicwg/no-tls12 Prohibit the offering of TLS <1.3 Commit: 88e5ca8f65e61cae07c4bc029854190fe9124e9c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/88e5ca8f65e61cae07c4bc029854190fe9124e9c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- resulted, I guess Commit: fe42f509cd1c03873bc74ca01ab9d0b60d13c9eb https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fe42f509cd1c03873bc74ca01ab9d0b60d13c9eb Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3869 from quicwg/partial-processing Clearer explanation of caveat on discarding packets Commit: e8eed6e6ab2de5c07c9bbb094478c71a525b162c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e8eed6e6ab2de5c07c9bbb094478c71a525b162c Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2020-07-10 (Fri, 10 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- Fixes #3815 (#3886) Commit: eeb38347eec33512acf05a754e3491954f0be5a6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/eeb38347eec33512acf05a754e3491954f0be5a6 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3825 from quicwg/small-cert-good A small certificate is good Commit: aad5c6b5ad0d9dbf5d23ae87c25672a7dbe58009 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/aad5c6b5ad0d9dbf5d23ae87c25672a7dbe58009 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3866 from quicwg/1rtt-keys-not-fs Remove claim about 1-RTT keys Commit: 0f10acee08533cdf353b828a4c018a12354e5a75 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0f10acee08533cdf353b828a4c018a12354e5a75 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- handshake data Commit: ceec57409394d00366eb32bd77d192073a46540b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ceec57409394d00366eb32bd77d192073a46540b Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3824 from quicwg/interface-summary-order Reorder TLS interface summary Commit: a55dc7bf5350d327eaa0e67d0ee524d0ea0b4357 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a55dc7bf5350d327eaa0e67d0ee524d0ea0b4357 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fewer words Commit: e9dd5b8eb51639e39ff3a88466dbcc9e81f9e237 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e9dd5b8eb51639e39ff3a88466dbcc9e81f9e237 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Don't reset an active connection It's not that great that this text never said this so directly before. Closes #3832. 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Yeah. Your code is faster than mine since yours traverses acked_packets only once.

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I have rebased this PR to fix conflict, dropped the commit of continue and add a commit suggested by @junhochoi. (The syntax of for is fixed. :-)

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Instead of adding a comment to .ack_eliciting, which is currently unused, I implemented IncludesAckEliciting which uses .ack_eliciting.

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FWIW, I was really concerned about that last change. Aside from it making this a non-editorial change, the way that we avoid handshake deadlock depends very much on HANDSHAKE_DONE being followed by probes. But as the server confirms and completes the handshake at the same time, I've convinced myself that this is OK.

(That this is what our stack did, largely by accident, is vindication of sorts...)

I would encourage people to sit down and run the analysis on that change to convince themselves that this is not reintroducing the handshake deadlock.

The other part of the proposed solution needs to be slightly different. @janaiyengar proposes that we ignore max_ack_delay prior to confirming the handshake. I think that's good, but it is not completely correct, and nor would it be sufficient.

We need to ignore max_ack_delay for acknowledgements of packets that were sent prior to handshake confirmation. Those are the ones that might have been buffered until keys were ready.

In order for that to work, we have two new requirements on packet processing for buffered packets:

  1. endpoints MUST process and acknowledge (or discard) any packets that they might have buffered during the handshake within max_ack_delay of completing the handshake

  2. endpoints MUST report an ACK Delay that is based on when a packet is received, not when it was processed

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@kazu-yamamoto pushed 1 commit.

  • 5e99c57 unifying packet and acked_packet since acked_packet was not defined anywhere.

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----==_mimepart_5f0eb268ae530_23303fd4fb6cd9683176a9-- From nobody Wed Jul 15 00:51:06 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A883A08A2 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 00:51:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qlPppR0cR7at for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 00:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3D7C3A0893 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 00:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-56fcc46.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-56fcc46.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.102.32]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DC2E16B9 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 00:51:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594799461; bh=7aUblsS/i6kyBFCkmd7gUVMIf9r6Xf2PfqUtpQF908I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=BwjMhE2NqYYYAWJJOOh0yGz/4MUbJlanHHa29JKud+ZeBK7pl4BHWIJ3QjTPMmsuC dUL5nJF+5omgjQ7m0x/90KwysQ9Q25C8w2k4FLuEtXr4O/+4E6kd8gjdSwGIZIoriC 9tyOm9fCyRT1BeIg6LWyQYRsUqXJ/KFoihmD4WOQ= Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 00:51:01 -0700 From: Kazu Yamamoto Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] assertion in GetPtoTimeAndSpace of recovery draft (#3910) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0eb565e30a8_75203fb55b0cd96015497b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazu-yamamoto X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 07:51:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0eb565e30a8_75203fb55b0cd96015497b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit `assertion` in `GetPtoTimeAndSpace` fails in many times. `GetPtoTimeAndSpace` is as follows: ``` GetPtoTimeAndSpace(): duration = (smoothed_rtt + max(4 * rttvar, kGranularity)) * (2 ^ pto_count) // Arm PTO from now when there are no inflight packets. if (no in-flight packets): assert(!PeerCompletedAddressValidation()) if (has handshake keys): return (now() + duration), Handshake else: return (now() + duration), Initial pto_timeout = infinite pto_space = Initial ... ``` It is called from two places. In the first place, `GetPtoTimeAndSpace()` is called when - ack-eliciting packets in flight (roughly, `bytes_in_flight <= 0`) - *OR* `!PeerCompletedAddressValidation()` ``` SetLossDetectionTimer(): ... if (no ack-eliciting packets in flight && PeerCompletedAddressValidation()): // There is nothing to detect lost, so no timer is set. // However, the client needs to arm the timer if the // server might be blocked by the anti-amplification limit. loss_detection_timer.cancel() return // Determine which PN space to arm PTO for. timeout, _ = GetPtoTimeAndSpace() ``` Int the second place, `GetPtoTimeAndSpace()` is called when - `bytes_in_flight > 0` ``` OnLossDetectionTimeout(): if (bytes_in_flight > 0): // PTO. Send new data if available, else retransmit old data. // If neither is available, send a single PING frame. _, pn_space = GetPtoTimeAndSpace() SendOneOrTwoAckElicitingPackets(pn_space) ``` So, it is not guaranteed that the following stands always: - `bytes_in_flight <= 0` - *AND* `!PeerCompletedAddressValidation()` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3910 ----==_mimepart_5f0eb565e30a8_75203fb55b0cd96015497b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

assertion in GetPtoTimeAndSpace fails in many times.

GetPtoTimeAndSpace is as follows:

GetPtoTimeAndSpace():
  duration = (smoothed_rtt + max(4 * rttvar, kGranularity))
      * (2 ^ pto_count)
  // Arm PTO from now when there are no inflight packets.
  if (no in-flight packets):
    assert(!PeerCompletedAddressValidation())
    if (has handshake keys):
      return (now() + duration), Handshake
    else:
      return (now() + duration), Initial
  pto_timeout = infinite
  pto_space = Initial
  ...

It is called from two places.

In the first place, GetPtoTimeAndSpace() is called when

  • ack-eliciting packets in flight (roughly, bytes_in_flight <= 0)
  • OR !PeerCompletedAddressValidation()
SetLossDetectionTimer():
  ...
  if (no ack-eliciting packets in flight &&
      PeerCompletedAddressValidation()):
    // There is nothing to detect lost, so no timer is set.
    // However, the client needs to arm the timer if the
    // server might be blocked by the anti-amplification limit.
    loss_detection_timer.cancel()
    return

  // Determine which PN space to arm PTO for.
  timeout, _ = GetPtoTimeAndSpace()

Int the second place, GetPtoTimeAndSpace() is called when

  • bytes_in_flight > 0
OnLossDetectionTimeout():
  if (bytes_in_flight > 0):
    // PTO. Send new data if available, else retransmit old data.
    // If neither is available, send a single PING frame.
    _, pn_space = GetPtoTimeAndSpace()
    SendOneOrTwoAckElicitingPackets(pn_space)

So, it is not guaranteed that the following stands always:

  • bytes_in_flight <= 0
  • AND !PeerCompletedAddressValidation()

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Regarding max_ack_delay, I think @martinthomson's comment is accurate with possibly one slight modification.

  1. endpoints MUST report an ACK Delay that is based on when a packet is received, not when it was processed

We might want to say that ACK Delay is the amount of the time the information (regardless of that being the packet itself or the acknowledgement) being buffered intentionally.

The observation here is that any unintentional delay (e.g., decryption time, payload processing time) should be considered part of RTT, because that is unavoidable.

And the added bonus of defining this way is that then there would be no change required for QUIC stacks that synchronously process the TLS handshake messages.

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----==_mimepart_5f0ebe62629b_27ee3fd478ecd95c3645b8-- From nobody Wed Jul 15 05:06:44 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609BC3A0BA5 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 05:06:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.517 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.517 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, GB_SUMOF=5, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K68jWgysCscO for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 05:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 213A13A09E1 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 05:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-275fa97.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-275fa97.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.64]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351CB6E042B for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 05:06:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594814800; bh=5yOrlD3QxIpsu+9BOw95BrD7SlYMzw9lSWHloCx3cgs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=M0KJwhJZ7lTGLE2zxxYw+VnhxlZmlMakBWYaGbOJFZYLf+1IFvaQ4LFy5Ttc5WohE YeSgJcUhajj8GzolOlS2TA1RucPJ3064fPSce2h62+UdVUz/qWmli2xJnXdoMig4mi ZYL6HhBvdx05X3cEkR+ms/Fj1mXSNlu5hmELkj8E= Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 05:06:40 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Desirable behavior when it takes time to derive the traffic keys for the next PN space (#3821) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0ef15026455_62423ffc444cd968464829"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 12:06:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0ef15026455_62423ffc444cd968464829 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just FWIW, I might point out that we are actually making the design streamlined, by improving consistency in how we handle ack delay. The new rule is: * The receiver reports the sum of the controlled delays by using the delay field of an ACK frame. * When the sender knows what the maximum of that controlled delay is, the sender ... * uses that value (i.e. max_ack_delay) to arm the PTO timer, and * uses that value (i.e. max_ack_delay) to calculate the RTT, because if the value of the delay field is greater than the known maximum, the difference is considered as uncontrolled delay and therefore has to be accounted as part of the path delay. * When the sender does *not* know what the maximum of that controlled delay is, the sender ... * does not arm the PTO timer, because it does not know when it can expect an ACK to arrive, and * calculates the RTT without the capability of detecting uncontrolled delay. It's simply that up until now, we have misused max-ack-delay in the last bullet point case. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3821#issuecomment-658728956 ----==_mimepart_5f0ef15026455_62423ffc444cd968464829 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Just FWIW, I might point out that we are actually making the design streamlined, by improving consistency in how we handle ack delay. The new rule is:

  • The receiver reports the sum of the controlled delays by using the delay field of an ACK frame.
  • When the sender knows what the maximum of that controlled delay is, the sender ...
    • uses that value (i.e. max_ack_delay) to arm the PTO timer, and
    • uses that value (i.e. max_ack_delay) to calculate the RTT, because if the value of the delay field is greater than the known maximum, the difference is considered as uncontrolled delay and therefore has to be accounted as part of the path delay.
  • When the sender does not know what the maximum of that controlled delay is, the sender ...
    • does not arm the PTO timer, because it does not know when it can expect an ACK to arrive, and
    • calculates the RTT without the capability of detecting uncontrolled delay.

It's simply that up until now, we have misused max-ack-delay in the last bullet point case.

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In my implementation, ngtcp2, it processes packet in the way that PR #3870 proposes; which means I just over looked existing text, but anyway, I think that processing a packet atomically is cleaner approach in implementation wise rather than passing a some kind of pointer to the very first packet header.

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@tatsuhiro-t Once a non-coalesced packet is passed to a connection, in my implementation I don't have to do any checking. The server already makes sure to pass packets to the correct connection based on the DCID.
So there's additional validation logic required for coalesced packets. And the easiest way is to just check that all DCIDs match. Sure, it would be possible to somehow query which other DCIDs would also be valid for the same session, but it's more complicated. And given that nobody has come up with any good reason to coalesce packets with different DCIDs in the first place, I'm wondering how this additional complexitiy would be justified.

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@pravb commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3192,8 +3192,8 @@ packets at the same encryption level.
 
 Receivers MAY route based on the information in the first packet contained in a
 UDP datagram.  Senders MUST NOT coalesce QUIC packets for different connections
-into a single UDP datagram.  Receivers SHOULD ignore any subsequent packets with
-a different Destination Connection ID than the first packet in the datagram.
+into a single UDP datagram.  Receivers SHOULD ignore any subsequent packets for
+a different connection than the first packet in the datagram.

I do not agree with this change. It's unnecessary complexity for no clear benefit. We should fix the sender text to say MUST NOT coalesce different connection IDs into a single datagram. If there are scenarios where this is needed let's revisit in QUIC v2.

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I don't foresee a large problem with the proposed change, but I also don't think it's necessary.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -2207,10 +2206,14 @@ v:
   bound on the number of forged packets that an endpoint can reject before
   updating keys.
 
-The analysis of AEAD_AES_128_CCM relies on a count of the number of block
-operations involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the
-analysis of other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a
-packet length of 2^10 blocks and a packet size limit of 2^14.
+o:
+
+: The amount of offline ideal cipher queries made by an adversary.
+
+The analyses that follow rely on a count of the number of block operations
+involved in producing each message. For simplicity, and to match the analysis of
+other AEAD functions in {{AEBounds}}, this analysis assumes a packet length of
+2^10 blocks; that is, a packet size limit of 2^14 bytes.

When people say 2^11, do they think 1536 bytes? This is indeed a common packet size. The next interesting size are probably in the "jumbo frame" range -- see for example 9001 bytes mentioned for AWS. That would be 2^14. And then the UDP limit is indeed 2^16.

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Follow-up Q: Do you need to wait for a PATH_RESPONSE before sending on the new path(which delays application data 1RTT), or can you concurrently validate the path while also starting to use it?

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There is a security risk if a client could convince a server to send data to an arbitrary address. The challenge mitigates that risk.

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(#3789) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0f62bc4744d_7b6b3fee89ecd96837216"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:10:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0f62bc4744d_7b6b3fee89ecd96837216 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @DavidSchinazi commented on this pull request. > -Endpoints MUST count the number of received packets that fail authentication for -each set of keys. If the number of packets that fail authentication with the -same key exceeds a limit that is specific to the AEAD in use, the endpoint MUST -stop using those keys. Endpoints MUST initiate a key update before reaching -this limit. If a key update is not possible, the endpoint MUST immediately -close the connection. Applying a limit reduces the probability that an attacker -is able to successfully forge a packet; see {{AEBounds}} and {{ROBUST}}. +Endpoints MUST count the number of encrypted packets for each set of keys. If +the total number of encrypted packets with the same key exceeds the +confidentiality limit for the selected AEAD, the endpoint MUST stop using those +keys. Endpoints MUST initiate a key update before sending more protected packets +than the confidentiality limit for the selected AEAD permits. If a key update +is not possible or integrity limits are reached, the endpoint MUST stop using +the connection and only send stateless resets in response receiving packets. It +is RECOMMENDED that endpoints immediately close the connection with a connection +error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION before reaching a state where key updates are I don't think PROTOCOL_VIOLATION makes sense here, the peer did not violate the protocol > @@ -1606,30 +1603,41 @@ number of attempts to forge packets. TLS achieves this by closing connections after any record fails an authentication check. In comparison, QUIC ignores any packet that cannot be authenticated, allowing multiple forgery attempts. -Endpoints MUST count the number of received packets that fail authentication for -each set of keys. If the number of packets that fail authentication with the -same key exceeds a limit that is specific to the AEAD in use, the endpoint MUST -stop using those keys. Endpoints MUST initiate a key update before reaching -this limit. If a key update is not possible, the endpoint MUST immediately -close the connection. Applying a limit reduces the probability that an attacker -is able to successfully forge a packet; see {{AEBounds}} and {{ROBUST}}. +Endpoints MUST count the number of encrypted packets for each set of keys. If +the total number of encrypted packets with the same key exceeds the +confidentiality limit for the selected AEAD, the endpoint MUST stop using those +keys. Endpoints MUST initiate a key update before sending more protected packets +than the confidentiality limit for the selected AEAD permits. If a key update +is not possible or integrity limits are reached, the endpoint MUST stop using +the connection and only send stateless resets in response receiving packets. It typo: in response to receiving > +is RECOMMENDED that endpoints immediately close the connection with a connection +error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION before reaching a state where key updates are +not possible. + +For AEAD_AES_128_GCM and AEAD_AES_256_GCM, the confidentiality limit is 2^25 +encrypted packets; see {{gcm-bounds}}. For AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305, the +confidentiality limit is greater than the number of possible packets (2^62) and +so can be disregarded. For AEAD_AES_128_CCM, the confidentiality limit is 2^23.5 +encrypted packets; see {{ccm-bounds}}. Applying a limit reduces the probability +that an attacker can distinguish the AEAD in use from a random permutation; see +{{AEBounds}}, {{ROBUST}}, and {{?GCM-MU=DOI.10.1145/3243734.3243816}}. + +In addition to counting packets sent, endpoints MUST count the number of +received packets that fail authentication during the lifetime of a connection. +If the total number of received packets that fail authentication within the +connection, across all keys, exceeds the integrity limit for the selected AEAD, I think this CL might benefit from a paragraph explaining that confidentiality limits and integrity limits are different, and that confidentiality limits are per-key whereas integrity is per-connection. > +error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION before reaching a state where key updates are +not possible. + +For AEAD_AES_128_GCM and AEAD_AES_256_GCM, the confidentiality limit is 2^25 +encrypted packets; see {{gcm-bounds}}. For AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305, the +confidentiality limit is greater than the number of possible packets (2^62) and +so can be disregarded. For AEAD_AES_128_CCM, the confidentiality limit is 2^23.5 +encrypted packets; see {{ccm-bounds}}. Applying a limit reduces the probability +that an attacker can distinguish the AEAD in use from a random permutation; see +{{AEBounds}}, {{ROBUST}}, and {{?GCM-MU=DOI.10.1145/3243734.3243816}}. + +In addition to counting packets sent, endpoints MUST count the number of +received packets that fail authentication during the lifetime of a connection. +If the total number of received packets that fail authentication within the +connection, across all keys, exceeds the integrity limit for the selected AEAD, +the endpoint MUST immediately close the connection and not process any more nit: should we say which error to use here? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -Endpoints MUST count the number of received packets that fail authentication for
-each set of keys.  If the number of packets that fail authentication with the
-same key exceeds a limit that is specific to the AEAD in use, the endpoint MUST
-stop using those keys.  Endpoints MUST initiate a key update before reaching
-this limit.  If a key update is not possible, the endpoint MUST immediately
-close the connection.  Applying a limit reduces the probability that an attacker
-is able to successfully forge a packet; see {{AEBounds}} and {{ROBUST}}.
+Endpoints MUST count the number of encrypted packets for each set of keys. If
+the total number of encrypted packets with the same key exceeds the
+confidentiality limit for the selected AEAD, the endpoint MUST stop using those
+keys. Endpoints MUST initiate a key update before sending more protected packets
+than the confidentiality limit for the selected AEAD permits. If a key update
+is not possible or integrity limits are reached, the endpoint MUST stop using
+the connection and only send stateless resets in response receiving packets. It
+is RECOMMENDED that endpoints immediately close the connection with a connection
+error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION before reaching a state where key updates are

I don't think PROTOCOL_VIOLATION makes sense here, the peer did not violate the protocol

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1606,30 +1603,41 @@ number of attempts to forge packets. TLS achieves this by closing connections
 after any record fails an authentication check. In comparison, QUIC ignores any
 packet that cannot be authenticated, allowing multiple forgery attempts.
 
-Endpoints MUST count the number of received packets that fail authentication for
-each set of keys.  If the number of packets that fail authentication with the
-same key exceeds a limit that is specific to the AEAD in use, the endpoint MUST
-stop using those keys.  Endpoints MUST initiate a key update before reaching
-this limit.  If a key update is not possible, the endpoint MUST immediately
-close the connection.  Applying a limit reduces the probability that an attacker
-is able to successfully forge a packet; see {{AEBounds}} and {{ROBUST}}.
+Endpoints MUST count the number of encrypted packets for each set of keys. If
+the total number of encrypted packets with the same key exceeds the
+confidentiality limit for the selected AEAD, the endpoint MUST stop using those
+keys. Endpoints MUST initiate a key update before sending more protected packets
+than the confidentiality limit for the selected AEAD permits. If a key update
+is not possible or integrity limits are reached, the endpoint MUST stop using
+the connection and only send stateless resets in response receiving packets. It

typo: in response to receiving

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +is RECOMMENDED that endpoints immediately close the connection with a connection
+error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION before reaching a state where key updates are
+not possible.
+
+For AEAD_AES_128_GCM and AEAD_AES_256_GCM, the confidentiality limit is 2^25
+encrypted packets; see {{gcm-bounds}}. For AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305, the
+confidentiality limit is greater than the number of possible packets (2^62) and
+so can be disregarded. For AEAD_AES_128_CCM, the confidentiality limit is 2^23.5
+encrypted packets; see {{ccm-bounds}}. Applying a limit reduces the probability
+that an attacker can distinguish the AEAD in use from a random permutation; see
+{{AEBounds}}, {{ROBUST}}, and {{?GCM-MU=DOI.10.1145/3243734.3243816}}.
+
+In addition to counting packets sent, endpoints MUST count the number of
+received packets that fail authentication during the lifetime of a connection.
+If the total number of received packets that fail authentication within the
+connection, across all keys, exceeds the integrity limit for the selected AEAD,

I think this CL might benefit from a paragraph explaining that confidentiality limits and integrity limits are different, and that confidentiality limits are per-key whereas integrity is per-connection.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION before reaching a state where key updates are
+not possible.
+
+For AEAD_AES_128_GCM and AEAD_AES_256_GCM, the confidentiality limit is 2^25
+encrypted packets; see {{gcm-bounds}}. For AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305, the
+confidentiality limit is greater than the number of possible packets (2^62) and
+so can be disregarded. For AEAD_AES_128_CCM, the confidentiality limit is 2^23.5
+encrypted packets; see {{ccm-bounds}}. Applying a limit reduces the probability
+that an attacker can distinguish the AEAD in use from a random permutation; see
+{{AEBounds}}, {{ROBUST}}, and {{?GCM-MU=DOI.10.1145/3243734.3243816}}.
+
+In addition to counting packets sent, endpoints MUST count the number of
+received packets that fail authentication during the lifetime of a connection.
+If the total number of received packets that fail authentication within the
+connection, across all keys, exceeds the integrity limit for the selected AEAD,
+the endpoint MUST immediately close the connection and not process any more

nit: should we say which error to use here?

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----==_mimepart_5f0f62bc4744d_7b6b3fee89ecd96837216-- From nobody Wed Jul 15 13:10:47 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77C93A0F87 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:10:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W1IAxAYJYBDd for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 533903A0F85 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-45eca55.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71A0E186A for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:10:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594843843; bh=Hc/sIhByS58XIopRX+HYk7iOTlPU4u5mJZNgfieSEvk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=aBZafDBIkRUpwa2+HeHRpiAvhF7otdvIEVbA+8sKss42Ss0KlFlrn0qAoen2kBt1k i7twliX0lYWXjGpBKUAMtKZZXJAD/l0YxKSRDtRkqUi8/qc3RSwZNSTUt6OJhtxa8Q Hdb+EWry8d+L7I1fxtzbtTlBpbe4EnSVrAaZGPDI= Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:10:43 -0700 From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] New confidentiality and integrity limits (#3788) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0f62c398204_245d3fece56cd95c87384"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 20:10:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0f62c398204_245d3fece56cd95c87384 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable IANAC (disclaimer: I Am Not A Cryptographer)=0D =0D >From my understanding of the issue, it seems that draft-29 does not provi= de the security guarantees it=C2=A0claims, when in the presence of a high= number of received forged packets. In that instance, QUIC provides less = security than TLS 1.3. I think that we should fix this issue in QUICv1, s= ince we are chartered to produce a protocol that is at least as safe as T= LS1.3.=0D =0D PR #3789 seems like the right direction to me, especially if folks more k= nowledgeable in cryptography think it's correct.=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3788#issuecomment-658983102= ----==_mimepart_5f0f62c398204_245d3fece56cd95c87384 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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From my understanding of the issue, it seems that draft-29 does not pr= ovide the security guarantees it=C2=A0claims, when in the presence of a h= igh number of received forged packets. In that instance, QUIC provides le= ss security than TLS 1.3. I think that we should fix this issue in QUICv1= , since we are chartered to produce a protocol that is at least as safe a= s TLS1.3.

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Thanks for reading the updated PR.

Assuming we go with something along the lines of #3889, I think this ends up as a design change, unless others think this is just a clarification of existing text?

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Could an amplification attack limit be imposed to allow some usage of the new path before validating it?

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We're in the process of implementing this, and as currently specified the draft adds a round trip delay compared to what we did in GoogleQUIC. Using a middle ground with an amplification limit as suggested by @nharper might be required to ensure reasonable performance.

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Setting the time from when the Initial PN space is discarded is a good clarification, and conveniently it lines up with the pseudocode. The pseudocode for OnPacketNumberSpaceDiscarded(pn_space) calls SetLossDetectionTimer().

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This is a rephrase of @martinthomson suggestion.

Fixes #3908

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Thanks for the fixes, but let's hold off on referencing bytes_in_flight in the recovery pseudocode for now. > @@ -1274,7 +1277,8 @@ GetPtoTimeAndSpace(): duration = (smoothed_rtt + max(4 * rttvar, kGranularity)) * (2 ^ pto_count) // Arm PTO from now when there are no inflight packets. - if (no in-flight packets): + // bytes_in_flight is defined in the next appendix. + if (bytes_in_flight <= 0): bytes_in_flight isn't introduced until the congestion control section, which is why I didn't do this. We could merge the pseudocode from both, but I believe doing that is a larger project than this PR, so I don't want to do this in this PR. > - return - // Congestion avoidance. - congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.size - / congestion_window + OnPacketsAcked(acked_packets): + for acked_packet in acked_packets: + OnPacketAcked(acked_packet) + + OnPacketAcked(acked_packet): + // Remove from bytes_in_flight. + bytes_in_flight -= acked_packet.sent_bytes + + // Do not increase congestion_window if application + // limited or flow control limited. + if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited()) + return Please change back to 2-space indent -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3909#pullrequestreview-449365569 ----==_mimepart_5f0f794b64545_6c023f9b7e8cd968264477 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Thanks for the fixes, but let's hold off on referencing bytes_in_flight in the recovery pseudocode for now.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1274,7 +1277,8 @@ GetPtoTimeAndSpace():
   duration = (smoothed_rtt + max(4 * rttvar, kGranularity))
       * (2 ^ pto_count)
   // Arm PTO from now when there are no inflight packets.
-  if (no in-flight packets):
+  // bytes_in_flight is defined in the next appendix.
+  if (bytes_in_flight <= 0):

bytes_in_flight isn't introduced until the congestion control section, which is why I didn't do this. We could merge the pseudocode from both, but I believe doing that is a larger project than this PR, so I don't want to do this in this PR.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -         return
-       // Congestion avoidance.
-       congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.size
-           / congestion_window
+  OnPacketsAcked(acked_packets):
+    for acked_packet in acked_packets:
+      OnPacketAcked(acked_packet)
+
+  OnPacketAcked(acked_packet):
+    // Remove from bytes_in_flight.
+    bytes_in_flight -= acked_packet.sent_bytes
+
+    // Do not increase congestion_window if application
+    // limited or flow control limited.
+    if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited())
+        return

Please change back to 2-space indent

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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> -         return=0D
-       // Congestion avoidance.=0D
-       congestion_window +=3D max_datagram_size * acked_packet.size=0D
-           / congestion_window=0D
+  OnPacketsAcked(acked_packets):=0D
+    for acked_packet in acked_packets:=0D
+      OnPacketAcked(acked_packet)=0D
+=0D
+  OnPacketAcked(acked_packet):=0D
+    // Remove from bytes_in_flight.=0D
+    bytes_in_flight -=3D acked_packet.sent_bytes=0D
+=0D
+    // Do not increase congestion_window if application=0D
+    // limited or flow control limited.=0D
+    if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited())=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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> +  OnPacketsAcked(acked_packets):=0D
+    for acked_packet in acked_packets:=0D
+      OnPacketAcked(acked_packet)=0D
+=0D
+  OnPacketAcked(acked_packet):=0D
+    // Remove from bytes_in_flight.=0D
+    bytes_in_flight -=3D acked_packet.sent_bytes=0D
+=0D
+    // Do not increase congestion_window if application=0D
+    // limited or flow control limited.=0D
+    if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited())=0D
+        return=0D
+=0D
+    // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period.=0D
+    if (InCongestionRecovery(acked_packet.time_sent)):=0D
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This is a good outcome, and I agree with Kazuho.

However, I am going to request that someone (not me preferably) take this to the mailing list to confirm with a wider group.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION before reaching a state where key updates are
+not possible.
+
+For AEAD_AES_128_GCM and AEAD_AES_256_GCM, the confidentiality limit is 2^25
+encrypted packets; see {{gcm-bounds}}. For AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305, the
+confidentiality limit is greater than the number of possible packets (2^62) and
+so can be disregarded. For AEAD_AES_128_CCM, the confidentiality limit is 2^23.5
+encrypted packets; see {{ccm-bounds}}. Applying a limit reduces the probability
+that an attacker can distinguish the AEAD in use from a random permutation; see
+{{AEBounds}}, {{ROBUST}}, and {{?GCM-MU=DOI.10.1145/3243734.3243816}}.
+
+In addition to counting packets sent, endpoints MUST count the number of
+received packets that fail authentication during the lifetime of a connection.
+If the total number of received packets that fail authentication within the
+connection, across all keys, exceeds the integrity limit for the selected AEAD,
+the endpoint MUST immediately close the connection and not process any more

It might make sense to mint a new error code for this (and the above). AEAD_LIMIT_REACHED might do.

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A high-order idea: Merge the Overview and Structure sections. Basically, I think we could use your descriptions of the three major pieces (Streams, Connections, Packets/Frames) at the right points in the text under Document Structure, and just move all of it into Overview. WDYT? > @@ -979,6 +1022,34 @@ described in {{migration}}. Finally, a connection may be terminated by either endpoint, as described in {{termination}}. +## Life of a QUIC Connection {#connection-lifecycle} + +Each connection starts with a handshake phase, during which client and server ```suggestion Each connection starts with a handshake phase, during which the two endpoints ``` > +## Life of a QUIC Connection {#connection-lifecycle} + I think the text in this subsection can replace the text above in the `Connections` section header. The first sentence above is broken (there's no version negotiation), and the rest of them are covered below. So basically, delete all text from lines 1016 - 1026. > +An application protocol can also operate in a limited fashion during the +handshake phase. 0-RTT allows application data to be sent by a client before +receiving any response from the server. However, 0-RTT lacks certain key +security guarantees. In particular, there is no protection against replay +attacks in 0-RTT; see {{QUIC-TLS}}. Separately, a server can also send +application data to a client before it receives the final cryptographic +handshake messages that allow it to confirm the identity and liveness of the +client. These capabilities allow an application protocol to offer the option to +trade some security guarantees for reduced latency. ```suggestion An application protocol can use the connection during the handshake phase, albeit to a limited extent. 0-RTT allows application data to be sent by a client before receiving a response from the server. However, there is no protection against replay attacks in 0-RTT; see {{QUIC-TLS}}. A server can also send application data to a client before it receives the final cryptographic handshake messages that allow it to confirm the identity and liveness of the client. These capabilities allow an application protocol to offer the option of trading some security guarantees for reduced latency. ``` > +and server. The primary purpose of a connection is to support the exchange of +data by an application protocol. ```suggestion and server. The primary purpose of a connection is to support the structured exchange of data by an application protocol. ``` > +and server. The primary purpose of a connection is to support the exchange of +data by an application protocol. I'm not so sure about this myself, but suggesting... the idea is to surface the use of QUIC streams. > +bidirectional streams allow both endpoints to send data; unidirectional streams +allow a single endpoint to send. A credit-based scheme is used to limit stream +creation and to bound the amount of data that can be sent. ```suggestion bidirectional streams, that allow both endpoints to send data; and unidirectional streams, that allow a single endpoint to send. A credit-based scheme is used to limit stream creation and to bound the amount of data that can be sent. ``` > +QUIC establishes a connection, which is a stateful interaction between a client +and server. The primary purpose of a connection is to support the exchange of +data by an application protocol. I would propose this be moved to after the para on streams > +The QUIC handshake combines negotiation of cryptographic and transport +parameters. The handshake is structured to permit the exchange of application +data as soon as possible. This includes an option for clients to send data +immediately (0-RTT), which might require prior communication to enable. With the leading para on QUIC connections from lines 127-129 moved here, maybe combine this with that para and start with "QUIC connections are established using a handshake that combines..." > +{{fig-hs}} shows a simplied handshake and the exchange of packets and frames +that are used to advance the handshake. Exchange of application data during the +handshake is enabled where possible, shown with a '*'. This seems a bit out of place. It would be more useful if it included data exchange and connection termination. Otherwise, I would suggest removing it entirely (this para and the text below as well). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3858#pullrequestreview-449407636 ----==_mimepart_5f0f9b77bd6ad_165a3f82faccd960100626 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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A high-order idea: Merge the Overview and Structure sections. Basicall= y, I think we could use your descriptions of the three major pieces (Stre= ams, Connections, Packets/Frames) at the right points in the text under D= ocument Structure, and just move all of it into Overview. WDYT?

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I think the text in this subsection can replace the text above in the = Connections section header. The first sentence above is brok= en (there's no version negotiation), and the rest of them are covered bel= ow. So basically, delete all text from lines 1016 - 1026.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +An application protocol can also operate =
in a limited fashion during the=0D
+handshake phase.  0-RTT allows application data to be sent by a client b=
efore=0D
+receiving any response from the server.  However, 0-RTT lacks certain ke=
y=0D
+security guarantees. In particular, there is no protection against repla=
y=0D
+attacks in 0-RTT; see {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Separately, a server can also send=0D=

+application data to a client before it receives the final cryptographic=0D=

+handshake messages that allow it to confirm the identity and liveness of=
 the=0D
+client.  These capabilities allow an application protocol to offer the o=
ption to=0D
+trade some security guarantees for reduced latency.=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-An application protocol can also operate in a=
 limited fashion during the=0D
-handshake phase.  0-RTT allows application data to be sent by a client b=
efore=0D
-receiving any response from the server.  However, 0-RTT lacks certain ke=
y=0D
-security guarantees. In particular, there is no protection against repla=
y=0D
-attacks in 0-RTT; see {{QUIC-TLS}}.  Separately, a server can also send=0D=

-application data to a client before it receives the final cryptographic=0D=

-handshake messages that allow it to confirm the identity and liveness of=
 the=0D
-client.  These capabilities allow an application protocol to offer the o=
ption to=0D
-trade some security guarantees for reduced latency.=0D
+An application protocol can use the connection during the handshake=0D
+phase, albeit to a limited extent.  0-RTT allows application data to be=0D=

+sent by a client before receiving a response from the server.  However,=0D=

+there is no protection against replay attacks in 0-RTT; see {{QUIC-TLS}}=
.=0D
+A server can also send application data to a client before it receives t=
he=0D
+final cryptographic handshake messages that allow it to confirm the=0D
+identity and liveness of the client.  These capabilities allow an applic=
ation=0D
+protocol to offer the option of trading some security guarantees for=0D
+reduced latency.=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +and server. The primary purpose of a conn=
ection is to support the exchange of=0D
+data by an application protocol.=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-and server. The primary purpose of a connecti=
on is to support the exchange of=0D
-data by an application protocol.=0D
+and server. The primary purpose of a connection is to support the struct=
ured=0D
+exchange of data by an application protocol.=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +and server. The primary purpose of a conn=
ection is to support the exchange of=0D
+data by an application protocol.=0D
=0D

I'm not so sure about this myself, but suggesting... the idea is to su= rface the use of QUIC streams.

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +bidirectional streams allow both endpoint=
s to send data; unidirectional streams=0D
+allow a single endpoint to send.  A credit-based scheme is used to limit=
 stream=0D
+creation and to bound the amount of data that can be sent.=0D
=0D =E2=AC=87=EF=B8=8F Suggested change=0D 
-bidirectional streams allow both endpoints to=
 send data; unidirectional streams=0D
-allow a single endpoint to send.  A credit-based scheme is used to limit=
 stream=0D
-creation and to bound the amount of data that can be sent.=0D
+bidirectional streams, that allow both endpoints to send data; and=0D
+unidirectional streams, that allow a single endpoint to send.  A credit-=
based=0D
+scheme is used to limit stream creation and to bound the amount of data =
that=0D
+can be sent.=0D
=0D =0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +QUIC establishes a connection, which is a=
 stateful interaction between a client=0D
+and server. The primary purpose of a connection is to support the exchan=
ge of=0D
+data by an application protocol.=0D
=0D

I would propose this be moved to after the para on streams

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +The QUIC handshake combines negotiation o=
f cryptographic and transport=0D
+parameters.  The handshake is structured to permit the exchange of appli=
cation=0D
+data as soon as possible.  This includes an option for clients to send d=
ata=0D
+immediately (0-RTT), which might require prior communication to enable.=0D=
=0D

With the leading para on QUIC connections from lines 127-129 moved her= e, maybe combine this with that para and start with "QUIC connections are= established using a handshake that combines..."

=0D =0D
=0D =0D

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

=0D 
> +{{fig-hs}} shows a simplied handshake and=
 the exchange of packets and frames=0D
+that are used to advance the handshake.  Exchange of application data du=
ring the=0D
+handshake is enabled where possible, shown with a '*'.=0D
=0D

This seems a bit out of place. It would be more useful if it included = data exchange and connection termination. Otherwise, I would suggest remo= ving it entirely (this para and the text below as well).

=0D =0D

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazu-yamamoto commented on this pull request. > - return - // Congestion avoidance. - congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.size - / congestion_window + OnPacketsAcked(acked_packets): + for acked_packet in acked_packets: + OnPacketAcked(acked_packet) + + OnPacketAcked(acked_packet): + // Remove from bytes_in_flight. + bytes_in_flight -= acked_packet.sent_bytes + + // Do not increase congestion_window if application + // limited or flow control limited. + if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited()) + return > Please change back to 2-space indent @ianswett This has been fixed by @junhochoi. 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@kazu-yamamoto commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> -         return
-       // Congestion avoidance.
-       congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.size
-           / congestion_window
+  OnPacketsAcked(acked_packets):
+    for acked_packet in acked_packets:
+      OnPacketAcked(acked_packet)
+
+  OnPacketAcked(acked_packet):
+    // Remove from bytes_in_flight.
+    bytes_in_flight -= acked_packet.sent_bytes
+
+    // Do not increase congestion_window if application
+    // limited or flow control limited.
+    if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited())
+        return

Please change back to 2-space indent

@ianswett This has been fixed by @junhochoi. Thanks!

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----==_mimepart_5f0fa439cfdff_757e3ffca74cd964643e3-- From nobody Wed Jul 15 17:50:55 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381923A0F3C for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:50:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uE2PGCdS2V_S for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-15.smtp.github.com (out-15.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B6FD3A0F3B for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA48126184B for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:50:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594860651; bh=AdxT3rO86edXBCoqHupIVtbqiR2BP9zPH3CG8zN3T1Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=P+Meh2xR3Tk1t7z2VKdMlf1swnrAr8bRqp/uQ40+foZQPRY91Sr2pjKQB389N2Ez5 xZcz2hdvxyYJFQKMSiTa9/R0M+H/DqTkfwBNBhBYR80Ezc1Aq50yCmFSg8WfThzGIo uvWWEYvGVWyLQetKhoY45u8ryF07BOaNyBLTDszc= Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:50:51 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Move day-in-the-life to intro (#3858) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0fa46b94cf2_3a103ff0084cd96010559a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 00:50:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0fa46b94cf2_3a103ff0084cd96010559a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the review Jana. I've taken most of this, with small tweaks only. Two things I didn't take: 1. Interleaving explanation with references to sections sounded appealing, but it turns out to be both harder to read as the links break up the flow, and harder to scan for links (the structure section serves as an abbreviated and accessible ToC). 2. I didn't move the connection piece below streams as I think that - at this level - talking about the connection is important context. I've moved the picture to the `#handshake` section, which didn't have that simple diagram (just some more complex ones), and I think benefits from it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3858#issuecomment-659090049 ----==_mimepart_5f0fa46b94cf2_3a103ff0084cd96010559a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks for the review Jana. I've taken most of this, with small tweaks only.

Two things I didn't take:

  1. Interleaving explanation with references to sections sounded appealing, but it turns out to be both harder to read as the links break up the flow, and harder to scan for links (the structure section serves as an abbreviated and accessible ToC).

  2. I didn't move the connection piece below streams as I think that - at this level - talking about the connection is important context.

I've moved the picture to the #handshake section, which didn't have that simple diagram (just some more complex ones), and I think benefits from it.

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jul 15 17:51:56 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC12B3A0F47 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:51:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.423 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FUZZY_CREDIT=1.678, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SDREb2J7mQAI for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF73B3A0F46 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1ac52d7.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1ac52d7.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.25.52]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11AE56A0603 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:51:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594860710; bh=gYiAqkfaojqHqWn/dGEteB5rmitTAb81rA+RW1+SLXE=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=nRaV+w0i3hQAUZtzXexRSgK4FXO1/IHZLiysXgzKsuwL2tDuqDsFwnrEV0EObGZPQ osqT84cpDYYFt5CWT7ejPa0W7Hkko2jlP82DvOWwYPV7dhH8FOiRxyUqcPTRmluHyb ItpuXY08YGLIiFAN3zn3ywL8KRGrQ6cLtGM7na3E= Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:51:49 -0700 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] c04012: Add a section on flow control performance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 00:51:55 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/move-life-of=0D Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts=0D Commit: c040125303cbaa88054c7359aaa7d6ea3075416d=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c040125303cbaa88054c73= 59aaa7d6ea3075416d=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-06-26 (Fri, 26 Jun 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Add a section on flow control performance=0D =0D QUIC doesn't really address the question of tuning flow control very=0D well. This just admits that fact.=0D =0D It also indicates why: which essentially boils down to "RAM is cheap".=0D= =0D Closes #3722.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 972e7e5dac3f5ba1c41f716bb5180e5d743fce2c=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/972e7e5dac3f5ba1c41f71= 6bb5180e5d743fce2c=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Massive batch of probably-editorial nits=0D =0D =0D Commit: e3094fab788fe42ccf4ab6ee4cf023d807da6aee=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e3094fab788fe42ccf4ab6= ee4cf023d807da6aee=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-http.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D M protection-samples.js=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into transport/mbishop_wgl= c=0D =0D =0D Commit: f7b6aab88c9b98000bd91ae3ed817188ffb21fe9=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f7b6aab88c9b98000bd91a= e3ed817188ffb21fe9=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Overzealous=0D =0D =0D Commit: 49ab8cedf1d5b55e2c7c2fbad0b6558afd4c8e8f=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49ab8cedf1d5b55e2c7c2f= bad0b6558afd4c8e8f=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Define preferred_address=0D =0D Closes #3803.=0D =0D =0D Commit: c0c58db5415d3e152e7515435a961c3b4e69e38b=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c0c58db5415d3e152e7515= 435a961c3b4e69e38b=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D What typo?=0D =0D Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop =0D =0D =0D Commit: c2b663f7a9de24b7a74390e5a528aa65d9e5e8ff=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c2b663f7a9de24b7a74390= e5a528aa65d9e5e8ff=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Clear vestiges of path validation symmetry=0D =0D In early versions of path validation, there was a requirement that=0D PATH_CHALLENGE be sent on the same path. This is, for various reasons,=0D= either unnecessary or harmful, so we no longer have that requirement.=0D But there was some residual text that assumed that property.=0D =0D This removes a paragraph citing symmetry directly, and rewords text that=0D= assumes return reachability - a property that QUIC no longer provides=0D mechanisms for.=0D =0D Closes #3797.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 54c61ece422b1db4408f3c3dd85be9cf95f0f86a=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/54c61ece422b1db4408f3c= 3dd85be9cf95f0f86a=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D The minimum-information guarantee in invariants=0D =0D This is a reduction of #3787 to the important (and accurate) piece.=0D =0D Closes #3773.=0D Closes #3774.=0D Closes #3787.=0D =0D =0D Commit: fb90c6e9bac22fe9286112530ef2871328fe383f=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fb90c6e9bac22fe9286112= 530ef2871328fe383f=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D prohibited=0D =0D Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar =0D =0D =0D Commit: f9fdab10ce23e66de11ac3447b1040cef39fe24c=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f9fdab10ce23e66de11ac3= 447b1040cef39fe24c=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D For for for=0D =0D =0D Commit: 4a967aa11e096c98f927bd5a9eb29dd6c170edc0=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4a967aa11e096c98f927bd= 5a9eb29dd6c170edc0=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Clarify STOP_SENDING in "Data Sent"=0D =0D =0D Commit: 40f96bb96344c97df9878768ec09a50a6b4e7f86=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/40f96bb96344c97df98787= 68ec09a50a6b4e7f86=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D TLS review=0D =0D =0D Commit: ace667763a2dae8884aa13042aab2c55fd74e791=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ace667763a2dae8884aa13= 042aab2c55fd74e791=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D comman mistake=0D =0D Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop =0D =0D =0D Commit: 7962f3e399aef6a95288e6f20b22e980f89cf5be=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7962f3e399aef6a95288e6= f20b22e980f89cf5be=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Reduce and un-separate=0D =0D These two statements are - to the extent that I can best determine -=0D redundant. One is better.=0D =0D Closes #3816.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 2278a54320679745c5ace0d6bd6cd05be3128fcf=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2278a54320679745c5ace0= d6bd6cd05be3128fcf=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Tickets and tokens are not for communication=0D =0D The text here was perhaps a little unclear on this point. The point is=0D= that these don't carry information from server to client or client to=0D server, they carry information from server (previous) to server (next).=0D= =0D Closes #3817.=0D =0D =0D Commit: bd9605974dd60f06af1bebdb3ee3c27440d8e83f=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bd9605974dd60f06af1beb= db3ee3c27440d8e83f=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D tokens and tickets are opaque=0D =0D =0D Commit: b5f313b4d11319c5541da517813dc8ce17772136=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b5f313b4d11319c5541da5= 17813dc8ce17772136=0D Author: Kazuho Oku =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D update kInitialRtt to 333ms, use that constant=0D =0D =0D Commit: fa9f2afff3dca923287bc8429e6066bd93980890=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fa9f2afff3dca923287bc8= 429e6066bd93980890=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Reorder TLS interface summary=0D =0D I came back to this today and found that the ordering was inconsistent=0D= and not sufficiently clear.=0D =0D Changing this so that all the actions for a single endpoint were grouped=0D= seemed to be the best arrangement. All events and actions are as close=0D= as possible in the ordering to the preceding event that caused or=0D enabled it.=0D =0D The application data packets are displayed with a different marking,=0D which helps distinguish those that carry CRYPTO frames.=0D =0D The final implied exchange for Get Handshake was removed. This was, I=0D= think, intended to imply something about session tickets. Without=0D explanation, it is confusing.=0D =0D This doesn't show HANDSHAKE_DONE, nor do I think that it should, because=0D= that is something that the transport does once it gets the Handshake=0D Complete signal.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 9e94c00ed2133f30225fd31b4b7ea3ade8a9d702=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9e94c00ed2133f30225fd3= 1b4b7ea3ade8a9d702=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D A small certificate is good=0D =0D There are a few ways that this can be managed, but it's worth pointing=0D= out why, and some things that might help.=0D =0D Closes #3784.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 2ae16098ac4a98c56ad7d6bc5c5b0cca521b660f=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2ae16098ac4a98c56ad7d6= bc5c5b0cca521b660f=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Reword paragraph on HelloRetryRequest=0D =0D This was a little clumsy.=0D =0D =0D Commit: c7c75414c9f761b5a8875d308938522dd139e565=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c7c75414c9f761b5a8875d= 308938522dd139e565=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Fixup grammarz=0D =0D =0D Commit: b194f64d522074b3ee677bf5325563cdf3bfa124=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b194f64d522074b3ee677b= f5325563cdf3bfa124=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Leaner is good=0D =0D =0D Commit: 49b2e4864a3862ef21dd3702159d2bbdd9765cb4=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49b2e4864a3862ef21dd37= 02159d2bbdd9765cb4=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Fix line length=0D =0D =0D Commit: 14bff7c8f65a3911533d66fecb70f9db6f64ceba=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/14bff7c8f65a3911533d66= fecb70f9db6f64ceba=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Fix description of Version Negotiation=0D =0D As Magnus noted, the description of the first byte is missing, and I=0D also noticed that the Supported Version field was described as following=0D= Version, which is wrong.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 6e638be2da8793e2f410fb5584b096f38914f904=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6e638be2da8793e2f410fb= 5584b096f38914f904=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-07-07 (Tue, 07 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Update draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson =0D =0D =0D Commit: 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-----------=0D Reword first part=0D =0D =0D Commit: 9d55480335f0988bc4ca0ba4a793e50cb4011b19=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9d55480335f0988bc4ca0b= a4a793e50cb4011b19=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Split minimum idle timeout period=0D =0D The text as written implied that the actual timeout period was=0D calculated using:=0D =0D ```=0D min(max_idle_timeout[client],=0D max_idle_timeout[server],=0D 3 * PTO)=0D ```=0D This is silly, as 3PTO is usually smaller than the other two values, and=0D= connections would time out too fast.=0D =0D Splitting the text regarding the 3PTO backstop makes this clearer.=0D =0D =0D Commit: d44f3c87218775820808aa5c6357298d7b0753ed=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d44f3c87218775820808aa= 5c6357298d7b0753ed=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M 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#3840.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 148f8afbc1fce748a42d2753836a298a74b33ff1=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/148f8afbc1fce748a42d27= 53836a298a74b33ff1=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D A couple of random circumlocations=0D =0D Closes #3846.=0D =0D =0D Commit: d79bdc5b5b74a9a73d38f1eef32fd891036c36af=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d79bdc5b5b74a9a73d38f1= eef32fd891036c36af=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Remove claim about 1-RTT keys=0D =0D This claim isn't necessary, as the statement about suitability is what=0D= matters here.=0D =0D Closes #3839.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 9e79a7769529bab3e459d74564b004d9cbdc2d3c=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9e79a7769529bab3e459d7= 4564b004d9cbdc2d3c=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D If a packet matches a connection, process it=0D =0D Not saying explicitly that was a small oversight.=0D =0D Closes #3837.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 73c4da7ff17069db4374888aafab5c239d250634=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/73c4da7ff17069db437488= 8aafab5c239d250634=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Clearer explanation of caveat on discarding packets=0D =0D Those packets that are not authenticated can be discarded, but only if=0D= processing them has no permanent effect on existing state. This=0D attempts to explain that.=0D =0D Closes #3836.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 8b1d53f27a638bbc9f5a5b4bc0dac53616aea171=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8b1d53f27a638bbc9f5a5b= 4bc0dac53616aea171=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D More about authenticating Version Negotiation=0D =0D This clarifies that it is a mechanism in the target QUIC version that=0D authenticates the information.=0D =0D This also lifts the strong requirement on authenticating the contents of=0D= Version Negotiation. QUIC version 1 does not do this and so does not=0D comply with this requirement. 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Some have 3 spaces, some have 2 spaces and the others have nothing. Would you suggest which one is correct? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3909#issuecomment-659090382 ----==_mimepart_5f0fa4b92a021_717f3fa3a9ccd9688893d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett I found that the left margins of pseudo code are also inconsistent. Some have 3 spaces, some have 2 spaces and the others have nothing. Would you suggest which one is correct?

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Thanks for the fixes, but let's hold off on referencing bytes_in_flight in the recovery pseudocode for now.

I suggested this because bytes_in_flight is also used in A.9. Should I change both bytes_in_flight in Appendix A to "no in-flight packets"?

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----==_mimepart_5f0fa617658f6_7ea83fada12cd95c1510fa-- From nobody Wed Jul 15 18:06:13 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C4D3A005B for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:06:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GOqyH0BKc3JN for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1008A3A0044 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-275fa97.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-275fa97.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.64]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B316A0E43 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:06:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594861570; bh=lgVqNGyZAj6UeZTn/CEKuurWa+9LXOEX/2Cggfimqrc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=W4oIHm9P9LXl5ZyIsSx/w0V+oSf23Ku0kCFxzuBZdbjP6e9wqkDmmCeQmOkLt7ibr 0iaIFT2ryUqmZr4zwbHaFszH71bkgOIIYMQQ7tngKkIoKjoRa2IQ4UCTiiOnN2iE6R d3pBjGI8qarQs5w6IyCh+plZ604KA6ZLOb2BnfpQ= Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:06:10 -0700 From: Kazu Yamamoto Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] assertion in OnLossDetectionTimeout of recovery draft (#3912) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0fa802132b9_38af3fbf874cd96c18269a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazu-yamamoto X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 01:06:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0fa802132b9_38af3fbf874cd96c18269a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The assertion in `OnLossDetectionTimeout` sometime fails in Haskell implementation which is translated from the pseudocode: ``` OnLossDetectionTimeout(): ... if (earliest_loss_time != 0): ... return if (bytes_in_flight > 0): SendOneOrTwoAckElicitingPackets(pn_space) else: assert(endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys) // Client sends an anti-deadlock packet: Initial is padded // to earn more anti-amplification credit, // a Handshake packet proves address ownership. if (has Handshake keys): SendOneAckElicitingHandshakePacket() else: SendOneAckElicitingPaddedInitialPacket() ``` How does `bytes_in_flight > 0` guarantee "endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys"? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3912 ----==_mimepart_5f0fa802132b9_38af3fbf874cd96c18269a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The assertion in OnLossDetectionTimeout sometime fails in Haskell implementation which is translated from the pseudocode:

OnLossDetectionTimeout():
  ...
  if (earliest_loss_time != 0):
    ...
    return

  if (bytes_in_flight > 0):
    SendOneOrTwoAckElicitingPackets(pn_space)
  else:
    assert(endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys)
    // Client sends an anti-deadlock packet: Initial is padded
    // to earn more anti-amplification credit,
    // a Handshake packet proves address ownership.
    if (has Handshake keys):
      SendOneAckElicitingHandshakePacket()
    else:
      SendOneAckElicitingPaddedInitialPacket()

How does bytes_in_flight > 0 guarantee "endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys"?

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1280,6 +1280,10 @@ A server could receive packets protected with 0-RTT keys prior to receiving a
 TLS ClientHello.  The server MAY retain these packets for later decryption in
 anticipation of receiving a ClientHello.
 
+A client generally receives 1-RTT keys at the same time as the handshake
+completes.  However, a client also MUST NOT process incoming 1-RTT protected
+packets before the TLS handshake is complete.

I'm not sure I understand the logic here. If the client receives the 1-RTT keys at the same time as the handshake completes, how can it possibly use them before that?

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1280,6 +1280,10 @@ A server could receive packets protected with 0-RTT keys prior to receiving a
 TLS ClientHello.  The server MAY retain these packets for later decryption in
 anticipation of receiving a ClientHello.
 
+A client generally receives 1-RTT keys at the same time as the handshake
+completes.  However, a client also MUST NOT process incoming 1-RTT protected
+packets before the TLS handshake is complete.

Note the "generally". It is - in theory - possible for a client to receive keys for TLS before it has completed the handshake. The simplest example is that the client has all the messages necessary, but the server certificate hasn't been authenticated yet (which is a condition for handshake completion). As certificate authentication can take time, there is potentially a time where the client could generate keys and use them without being sure of what the server identity is. Most TLS stacks don't allow that to happen, but it isn't a guarantee that is made anywhere.

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----==_mimepart_5f0fafb79c004_690f3fe868acd95c172641-- From nobody Wed Jul 15 18:59:04 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9342F3A094F for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:59:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.12 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.12 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KcmPa0bzVZXq for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3704A3A094C for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1b8c660.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1b8c660.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BED261576 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:59:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594864741; bh=AonjukRN1iXdKoAKdZY1zoNcOQXuVn10e6gVEG/+mJ0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qoEIVjm+WU7QybsMYJssJOAdYjtiXmTCfXCRJQL9vob1Cejo/jBOtawZgj9yuoIld t2ALyepJb+1lnbfUotODHgLbCmipQpL0pHNdRFdmD7yGCzvt0k0d/4HEqasZTDnsf1 WazAUsA5g2tqB3p3w6VCOf/4En7I8yiuHGNuYytE= Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 18:59:01 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] WGLC review nits for Recovery (#3877) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0fb4652c35c_3c6f3fc2faecd96423828d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 01:59:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0fb4652c35c_3c6f3fc2faecd96423828d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett approved this pull request. Thanks for this PR, it LG, but I have some suggestions(mostly to existing text) and comments. > @@ -430,13 +430,13 @@ thresholds to minimize recovery latency. The RECOMMENDED initial value for the packet reordering threshold (kPacketThreshold) is 3, based on best practices for TCP loss detection -{{?RFC5681}} {{?RFC6675}}. Implementations SHOULD NOT use a packet threshold -less than 3, to keep in line with TCP {{?RFC5681}}. +({{?RFC5681}}, {{?RFC6675}}). Implementations SHOULD NOT use a packet threshold +less than 3, to keep in line with TCP ({{?RFC5681}}). Maybe "In order to remain similar to TCP, implementations SHOULD NOT use a packet threshold less than 3."? > @@ -587,7 +587,7 @@ received from the client, because packets sent on PTO count against the anti-amplification limit. Note that the server could fail to validate the client's address even if 0-RTT is accepted. -Since the server could be blocked until more packets are received from the +Since the server could be blocked until more bytes are received from the In this case, I prefer packets, since that infers that there are bytes received intended for the specific connection. > @@ -711,18 +711,18 @@ before Initial packets, early 0-RTT packets will be declared lost, but that is expected to be infrequent. It is expected that keys are discarded after packets encrypted with them would -be acknowledged or declared lost. Initial secrets however might be destroyed -sooner, as soon as handshake keys are available; see Section 4.11.1 of -{{QUIC-TLS}}. +be acknowledged or declared lost. However, Initial secrets are destroyed as ```suggestion be acknowledged or declared lost. However, Initial secrets are discarded as ``` > @@ -711,18 +710,18 @@ before Initial packets, early 0-RTT packets will be declared lost, but that is expected to be infrequent. It is expected that keys are discarded after packets encrypted with them would -be acknowledged or declared lost. Initial secrets however might be destroyed We could add a MUST, but there's no reason given the TLS draft has a MUST, unless we're trying to move the TLS references to informational rather than normative? > +soon as handshake keys are available to both client and server; see Section +4.11.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. ```suggestion soon as handshake keys are proven to be available to both client and server; see Section 4.11.1 of {{QUIC-TLS}}. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Thanks for this PR, it LG, but I have some suggestions(mostly to exist= ing text) and comments.

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Maybe "In order to remain similar to TCP, implementations SHOULD NOT u= se a packet threshold less than 3."?

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In this case, I prefer packets, since that infers that there are bytes= received intended for the specific connection.

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We could add a MUST, but there's no reason given the TLS draft has a M= UST, unless we're trying to move the TLS references to informational rath= er than normative?

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jul 15 19:01:53 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2443F3A0982 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:01:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.423 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FUZZY_CREDIT=1.678, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iKSgFI8JF832 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39DA03A0979 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9DD8C0535 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:01:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594864907; bh=BsAGSkpbiyhR3EViS3oYxrcneBzAnX81jtD0RfNEmPo=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=uRUSXGakV3xXSZIzMYnuJXgNPPum2Iyw3r2gKadhvHcPmuY7DVdRZcWV0pibw2jqd iCSrVicweZfZFoZd+hVbATJnoNEFoCCJw+TnbqnEszpA77WvFEqa6ssTXzEqNMNfOF 4qCInNV4odnvpnEZCpZfoSfsSkaxwmxHobfgew18= Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:01:47 -0700 From: ianswett To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] c04012: Add a section on flow control performance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 02:01:52 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/recovery/mbishop_wglc=0D Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts=0D Commit: c040125303cbaa88054c7359aaa7d6ea3075416d=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c040125303cbaa88054c73= 59aaa7d6ea3075416d=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-06-26 (Fri, 26 Jun 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Add a section on flow control performance=0D =0D QUIC doesn't really address the question of tuning flow control very=0D well. This just admits that fact.=0D =0D It also indicates why: which essentially boils down to "RAM is cheap".=0D= =0D Closes #3722.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 972e7e5dac3f5ba1c41f716bb5180e5d743fce2c=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/972e7e5dac3f5ba1c41f71= 6bb5180e5d743fce2c=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Massive batch of probably-editorial nits=0D =0D =0D Commit: e3094fab788fe42ccf4ab6ee4cf023d807da6aee=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e3094fab788fe42ccf4ab6= ee4cf023d807da6aee=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-http.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D M protection-samples.js=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into transport/mbishop_wgl= c=0D =0D =0D Commit: f7b6aab88c9b98000bd91ae3ed817188ffb21fe9=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f7b6aab88c9b98000bd91a= e3ed817188ffb21fe9=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-06-30 (Tue, 30 Jun 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Overzealous=0D =0D =0D Commit: 49ab8cedf1d5b55e2c7c2fbad0b6558afd4c8e8f=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49ab8cedf1d5b55e2c7c2f= bad0b6558afd4c8e8f=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Define preferred_address=0D =0D Closes #3803.=0D =0D =0D Commit: c0c58db5415d3e152e7515435a961c3b4e69e38b=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c0c58db5415d3e152e7515= 435a961c3b4e69e38b=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D What typo?=0D =0D Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop =0D =0D =0D Commit: c2b663f7a9de24b7a74390e5a528aa65d9e5e8ff=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c2b663f7a9de24b7a74390= e5a528aa65d9e5e8ff=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Clear vestiges of path validation symmetry=0D =0D In early versions of path validation, there was a requirement that=0D PATH_CHALLENGE be sent on the same path. This is, for various reasons,=0D= either unnecessary or harmful, so we no longer have that requirement.=0D But there was some residual text that assumed that property.=0D =0D This removes a paragraph citing symmetry directly, and rewords text that=0D= assumes return reachability - a property that QUIC no longer provides=0D mechanisms for.=0D =0D Closes #3797.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 54c61ece422b1db4408f3c3dd85be9cf95f0f86a=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/54c61ece422b1db4408f3c= 3dd85be9cf95f0f86a=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D The minimum-information guarantee in invariants=0D =0D This is a reduction of #3787 to the important (and accurate) piece.=0D =0D Closes #3773.=0D Closes #3774.=0D Closes #3787.=0D =0D =0D Commit: fb90c6e9bac22fe9286112530ef2871328fe383f=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fb90c6e9bac22fe9286112= 530ef2871328fe383f=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D prohibited=0D =0D Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar =0D =0D =0D Commit: f9fdab10ce23e66de11ac3447b1040cef39fe24c=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f9fdab10ce23e66de11ac3= 447b1040cef39fe24c=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D For for for=0D =0D =0D Commit: 4a967aa11e096c98f927bd5a9eb29dd6c170edc0=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4a967aa11e096c98f927bd= 5a9eb29dd6c170edc0=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Clarify STOP_SENDING in "Data Sent"=0D =0D =0D Commit: 40f96bb96344c97df9878768ec09a50a6b4e7f86=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/40f96bb96344c97df98787= 68ec09a50a6b4e7f86=0D Author: Mike Bishop =0D Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D TLS review=0D =0D =0D Commit: ace667763a2dae8884aa13042aab2c55fd74e791=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ace667763a2dae8884aa13= 042aab2c55fd74e791=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D comman mistake=0D =0D Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop =0D =0D =0D Commit: 7962f3e399aef6a95288e6f20b22e980f89cf5be=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7962f3e399aef6a95288e6= f20b22e980f89cf5be=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Reduce and un-separate=0D =0D These two statements are - to the extent that I can best determine -=0D redundant. One is better.=0D =0D Closes #3816.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 2278a54320679745c5ace0d6bd6cd05be3128fcf=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2278a54320679745c5ace0= d6bd6cd05be3128fcf=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-03 (Fri, 03 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Tickets and tokens are not for communication=0D =0D The text here was perhaps a little unclear on this point. The point is=0D= that these don't carry information from server to client or client to=0D server, they carry information from server (previous) to server (next).=0D= =0D Closes #3817.=0D =0D =0D Commit: bd9605974dd60f06af1bebdb3ee3c27440d8e83f=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bd9605974dd60f06af1beb= db3ee3c27440d8e83f=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D tokens and tickets are opaque=0D =0D =0D Commit: b5f313b4d11319c5541da517813dc8ce17772136=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b5f313b4d11319c5541da5= 17813dc8ce17772136=0D Author: Kazuho Oku =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D update kInitialRtt to 333ms, use that constant=0D =0D =0D Commit: fa9f2afff3dca923287bc8429e6066bd93980890=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fa9f2afff3dca923287bc8= 429e6066bd93980890=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Reorder TLS interface summary=0D =0D I came back to this today and found that the ordering was inconsistent=0D= and not sufficiently clear.=0D =0D Changing this so that all the actions for a single endpoint were grouped=0D= seemed to be the best arrangement. All events and actions are as close=0D= as possible in the ordering to the preceding event that caused or=0D enabled it.=0D =0D The application data packets are displayed with a different marking,=0D which helps distinguish those that carry CRYPTO frames.=0D =0D The final implied exchange for Get Handshake was removed. This was, I=0D= think, intended to imply something about session tickets. Without=0D explanation, it is confusing.=0D =0D This doesn't show HANDSHAKE_DONE, nor do I think that it should, because=0D= that is something that the transport does once it gets the Handshake=0D Complete signal.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 9e94c00ed2133f30225fd31b4b7ea3ade8a9d702=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9e94c00ed2133f30225fd3= 1b4b7ea3ade8a9d702=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D A small certificate is good=0D =0D There are a few ways that this can be managed, but it's worth pointing=0D= out why, and some things that might help.=0D =0D Closes #3784.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 2ae16098ac4a98c56ad7d6bc5c5b0cca521b660f=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2ae16098ac4a98c56ad7d6= bc5c5b0cca521b660f=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Reword paragraph on HelloRetryRequest=0D =0D This was a little clumsy.=0D =0D =0D Commit: c7c75414c9f761b5a8875d308938522dd139e565=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c7c75414c9f761b5a8875d= 308938522dd139e565=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Fixup grammarz=0D =0D =0D Commit: b194f64d522074b3ee677bf5325563cdf3bfa124=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b194f64d522074b3ee677b= f5325563cdf3bfa124=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Leaner is good=0D =0D =0D Commit: 49b2e4864a3862ef21dd3702159d2bbdd9765cb4=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49b2e4864a3862ef21dd37= 02159d2bbdd9765cb4=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-06 (Mon, 06 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log 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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jul 15 19:11:35 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AAC13A09C3 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:11:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xwixNe3c8zOp for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-14.smtp.github.com (out-14.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33E953A09C1 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-39b4a70.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-39b4a70.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C152F1204CA for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:11:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594865492; bh=Di/b5a9EHjAFoORNO1jb0sCpwbd0xRKktjy3R4Ezkmc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mDZngW+6drdq2M9/CtOmkJCuehBLJ/xWjAwHDjMua9Nmz199PXZO4Bgm01DnZyByj udUHW4RVDHj8drqSqPguhaI+2SAzZTagV2zbmVWvaT7eaqKzTKCtsFWmPoPO5hhdsf owUNiDF/7fa9qxIDNAwVxGC11WOevo1eKE2yFK8s= Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:11:32 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fixing recovery pseudocode (#3909) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0fb7547c509_62a23fa35a8cd95c108037"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 02:11:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0fb7547c509_62a23fa35a8cd95c108037 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe 2 space indent is correct, and 3 is an inadvertent error. For the bytes_in_flight change, I'd prefer you revert that for now and we can decide separately if we want to merge the congestion control and loss recovery pseudocode into one section with a single set of variables. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3909#issuecomment-659114186 ----==_mimepart_5f0fb7547c509_62a23fa35a8cd95c108037 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I believe 2 space indent is correct, and 3 is an inadvertent error.

For the bytes_in_flight change, I'd prefer you revert that for now and we can decide separately if we want to merge the congestion control and loss recovery pseudocode into one section with a single set of variables.

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Specify that when the spec says that a "client only receives acknowledgments for its 0-RTT packets once the handshake
is complete", it means "as defined in the Handshake Complete section of {{QUIC-TLS}}.".

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3914

Commit Summary

  • Merge pull request #14 from quicwg/master
  • Merge pull request #15 from quicwg/master
  • Merge pull request #16 from quicwg/master
  • Crossing the Ts for 0-RTT ACKs after Handshake Complete.

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This is good, but I wouldn't talk about "current time" at all.

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jul 15 21:03:01 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901D33A0BCD for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:02:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.423 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FUZZY_CREDIT=1.678, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j_Z4-oxk9Ish for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84F663A0BC5 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.20]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F3C281ABC for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:02:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594872175; bh=PqjGzeCA6koKIXsB+vxhpIFBQ1ZBI1/DfsbD8bSr64Q=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=FbOSN/YeN8EB2dZKdHzeal8/v2oF5rtKNsoWVCitZ92Vg8orjyTSYDyrNDvq5INNz eS14VS87dA9/CMUiGRjuk5yNG01VHGZNbDcNez733nZtmLzMe2tjBj3tIo3M9wja2b WbmxlkVeQQH2XfYJmmliL/NYWnuqAjpc7oKuB794= Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:02:55 -0700 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] c04012: Add a section on flow control performance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 04:03:00 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/less-protection=0D Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts=0D Commit: c040125303cbaa88054c7359aaa7d6ea3075416d=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c040125303cbaa88054c73= 59aaa7d6ea3075416d=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-06-26 (Fri, 26 Jun 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Add a section on flow control performance=0D =0D QUIC doesn't really address the question of tuning flow control very=0D well. 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=0D ```=0D min(max_idle_timeout[client],=0D max_idle_timeout[server],=0D 3 * PTO)=0D ```=0D This is silly, as 3PTO is usually smaller than the other two values, and=0D= connections would time out too fast.=0D =0D Splitting the text regarding the 3PTO backstop makes this clearer.=0D =0D =0D Commit: d44f3c87218775820808aa5c6357298d7b0753ed=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d44f3c87218775820808aa= 5c6357298d7b0753ed=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Remove the justification (too hard)=0D =0D =0D Commit: 1126251530f1f4d7fa9ae7fb843bdfe95bdf7611=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1126251530f1f4d7fa9ae7= fb843bdfe95bdf7611=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2020-07-08 (Wed, 08 Jul 2020)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Which DCID determines Initial keys=0D =0D This is better 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4578,7 +4578,8 @@ likely to compromise the packet protection for all 0-RTT packets because the
 same key and nonce could be used to protect different content.
 
 A client only receives acknowledgments for its 0-RTT packets once the handshake
-is complete.  Consequently, a server might expect 0-RTT packets to start with a
+is complete, as defined in the Handshake Complete section of {{QUIC-TLS}}.

That's what I first wrote, but I was worried about section renumbering if TLS draft is edited. Fine with me.

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Based on the discussion we've had, don't we need a more comprehensive set of changes that deal with persistent congestion, sending probe packets, and calculating RTT?

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@kazu-yamamoto pushed 4 commits.

  • 07e87d3 fixing OnPacketsAcked
  • 1a68921 defining IncludesAckEliciting.
  • 65dc7ea unifying packet and acked_packet since acked_packet was not defined anywhere.
  • f68b553 fixing indentation in pseudocode

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@ianswett I dropped two commits about bytes_in_flight and squashed commits relating to spaces.

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----==_mimepart_5f0fd38e4cb01_31b13f9b52acd9601020d-- From nobody Wed Jul 15 21:14:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2DA3A0BD6 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:14:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rrlbpl-JGELJ for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 127223A0BD9 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0f7e7fd.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0f7e7fd.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.110.17]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615D3281ABC for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:14:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594872865; bh=jcFjPwJoMzsQQ/GY6vW285Oy1zVyo+A9FAIwIuVQHCI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=a+mh+mCliCAl9DhE/nBRRiAnCsTeXeD4DANlP0zTh8UoHKYZi8qgzVWtoibB4QAjI wXvSlry7c49ZQfhxWX5ythvwTslarcWdIcRUAbs5Gd20+vQB4Ygd6PJFQ42KRiG3Z6 BiVYRGNuGHae3L7qqAjpv0+3X29lyHdbbBtXucNI= Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:14:25 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow endpoints to generate traffic keys asynchronously (#3874) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0fd42150e09_bb03f9e8b4cd95c731f2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 04:14:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0fd42150e09_bb03f9e8b4cd95c731f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To make the change of status clear, the change to probing keeps probes for application data disabled until handshake confirmation rather than handshake completion. This is based on the conclusions in [this comment](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3821#issuecomment-658507628). I think that PR is an incremental change in that direction, but more is needed to complete the set of changes proposed there. My suggestion would be to get agreement on the overall strategy, as proposed. Then we can take this PR and follow up with more comprehensive/systemic fixes. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3874#issuecomment-659147169 ----==_mimepart_5f0fd42150e09_bb03f9e8b4cd95c731f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

To make the change of status clear, the change to probing keeps probes for application data disabled until handshake confirmation rather than handshake completion. This is based on the conclusions in this comment. I think that PR is an incremental change in that direction, but more is needed to complete the set of changes proposed there.

My suggestion would be to get agreement on the overall strategy, as proposed. Then we can take this PR and follow up with more comprehensive/systemic fixes.

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Though 0-RTT is the only thing that is seriously affected in the current design, Initial packets might also be affected if we ever wanted to protect those with anything other than a static key. Closes #3801. Commit: f32b5790eeb3611b130da94de12e40846ba2d6d4 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f32b5790eeb3611b130da94de12e40846ba2d6d4 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-02 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Reword Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar Commit: 4429d4e6375644005e3579d4984e53149b0a8e36 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4429d4e6375644005e3579d4984e53149b0a8e36 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-16 (Thu, 16 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3811 from quicwg/retry-pn-reset Move requirements for packet number reset Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/4284ad90d8d3...4429d4e63756 From nobody Wed Jul 15 21:17:17 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6B63A0BE0 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:17:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HqKj2vikn1gd for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5416C3A0C0B for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-28f8021.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-28f8021.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.98]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ECF28C00EE for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:17:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594873033; bh=iAhMyIe8v1V+SILtKomGgdV/PeN/0vuG6/IDR3huPNk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Ely42vzLL7eX8RvhjSwkWEcgdyQoq19u5a8msGxJUfw81FhEkJrjB1w8uXZSfkU2f xXQ+PYsulJe8OW0F7bwJ5HVShTUTK/AxE5ty1gqBPlS1WsEgtHtVmmrNzTgjtKVakQ Icy0coswKo/YHb3LeNxeivw5SbJFpcwMF5YuCvZo= Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:17:13 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Move requirements for packet number reset (#3811) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0fd4c98ff21_4b323fe79bccd964542a9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 04:17:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0fd4c98ff21_4b323fe79bccd964542a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #3811 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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It then adds some more meat to the introductory section. Closes #3763. Commit: cbe6f146502d1c32bfcf421f87b7abe3018be669 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cbe6f146502d1c32bfcf421f87b7abe3018be669 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-13 (Mon, 13 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Rewird Commit: 86b1a78c9434d49e397970d1b200e260a59c4341 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/86b1a78c9434d49e397970d1b200e260a59c4341 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-14 (Tue, 14 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Ian's review Commit: b0fb113d7b472c499e78f43d877f67d6749317df https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b0fb113d7b472c499e78f43d877f67d6749317df Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-16 (Thu, 16 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Some changes, not all Commit: fbac101e85a24dcb66d87cf59191548fce3412c3 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fbac101e85a24dcb66d87cf59191548fce3412c3 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-16 (Thu, 16 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into move-life-of Commit: 8a9ebea2f179746448790bd571c7a1e4d7782729 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8a9ebea2f179746448790bd571c7a1e4d7782729 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-15 (Wed, 15 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3858 from quicwg/move-life-of Move day-in-the-life to intro Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/4429d4e63756...8a9ebea2f179 From nobody Wed Jul 15 21:27:22 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFBB3A0C0B for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:27:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EK8b9wnyf-PS for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DF153A0C02 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0f7e7fd.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0f7e7fd.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.110.17]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E975206B7 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:27:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594873633; bh=vJ0cwpihj5U9f0ZAgliHmcgDvr48++cDGl2Sxs2YvJU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pFzEiAKrpYF7UE0v7YKslGTWzfSrG2jP/Y/5llhi2J2OoPLnPpdKUNBmwkdVgsQ0I 7NCKeJA2OVvvjQC3dWDDpM9+plUElC6bXt9LT4qXfe1dnElswxaFSnPhjkhKWp2t94 mf1zir1JG5bzBvedzzGPOss6N7W8drfvEr4gpTAw= Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:27:13 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Move day-in-the-life to intro (#3858) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0fd72171860_be43f9e8b4cd95c111698"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 04:27:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0fd72171860_be43f9e8b4cd95c111698 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @janaiyengar approved this pull request. 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As long as we are comfortable with the change in behaviour, this is ok. I think that this is more correct than the previous, but that's just me. > @@ -1154,7 +1154,7 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketSent follows: if (ack_eliciting): time_of_last_ack_eliciting_packet[pn_space] = now() OnPacketSentCC(sent_bytes) - sent_packets[pn_space][packet_number].size = sent_bytes + sent_packets[pn_space][packet_number].sent_bytes = sent_bytes ```suggestion sent_packets[pn_space][packet_number].sent_bytes = sent_bytes ``` > + congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes + / congestion_window ```suggestion congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes / congestion_window ``` Not quite sure to do about this one. I would normally add a temporary variable in cases like this, but this probably isn't the best place for that. 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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION before reaching a state where key updates are
+not possible.
+
+For AEAD_AES_128_GCM and AEAD_AES_256_GCM, the confidentiality limit is 2^25
+encrypted packets; see {{gcm-bounds}}. For AEAD_CHACHA20_POLY1305, the
+confidentiality limit is greater than the number of possible packets (2^62) and
+so can be disregarded. For AEAD_AES_128_CCM, the confidentiality limit is 2^23.5
+encrypted packets; see {{ccm-bounds}}. Applying a limit reduces the probability
+that an attacker can distinguish the AEAD in use from a random permutation; see
+{{AEBounds}}, {{ROBUST}}, and {{?GCM-MU=DOI.10.1145/3243734.3243816}}.
+
+In addition to counting packets sent, endpoints MUST count the number of
+received packets that fail authentication during the lifetime of a connection.
+If the total number of received packets that fail authentication within the
+connection, across all keys, exceeds the integrity limit for the selected AEAD,
+the endpoint MUST immediately close the connection and not process any more

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----==_mimepart_5f0fd8f37ff8b_2b503fbe82ecd968159389-- From nobody Wed Jul 15 21:51:21 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBD53A0D16 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:51:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bmmEMN3f2z7H for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80E653A0D12 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.57]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAAF966116B for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:51:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594875077; bh=C9gOxQhkRsmqvCoH20P9icV3udcuc3KbtQYkuzOPQcY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vpcyJSc3vXNCNFDXwrV84QexqZ8ujObEladVM+xl9F6GUuZVdpKlhxbWLU+oDgaW2 Jz9MZR6RnPYUc1LUVodjsEwTXLdXkHAZPyi0x+OaIlzy+7VvHroIL1uqQTgOb+7KZP PFcfhpCN6B89edATIss6RESW0doqBdG0Dn51cYpI= Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:51:17 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] No RTT samples, no persistent congestion (#3889) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0fdcc5aa358_44893ff7738cd96c780b3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 04:51:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0fdcc5aa358_44893ff7738cd96c780b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson I think that depends on the following two aspects: First, the accuracy we want to have in the definition of persistent congestion (see https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3875#issuecomment-658532149). If we think of persistent congestion as a ballpark figure that resembles a blackhole period of somewhere *around* 3 PTO, during which an endpoint would have sent *at least 2 or 3 packets*, then I think the change proposed in this PR is sufficient. Second, if your concern is about endpoints not arming PTO for ApplicationData and that becoming an edge of persistent congestion, then I'd assume that the wort case that we might want to discuss is when all the following conditions are met: * the TLS handshake transcript send by the server does not fit in 3 datagrams (therefore the server would have RTT estimate when sending the first 0.5 RTT data) * client spends long time in verifying the certificate chain * both the 1-RTT packets that carrried 0.5 RTT data and the first 1-RTT data (i.e. the one containing HANDSHAKE_DONE) gets lost Under such scenario, persistent congestion would be declared. But then, the condition matches the definition of the previous paragraph. Therefore, I think we can call this a non-issue, if we are fine with what's written in the previous paragraph. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3889#issuecomment-659156793 ----==_mimepart_5f0fdcc5aa358_44893ff7738cd96c780b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@martinthomson I think that depends on the following two aspects:

First, the accuracy we want to have in the definition of persistent congestion (see #3875 (comment)). If we think of persistent congestion as a ballpark figure that resembles a blackhole period of somewhere around 3 PTO, during which an endpoint would have sent at least 2 or 3 packets, then I think the change proposed in this PR is sufficient.

Second, if your concern is about endpoints not arming PTO for ApplicationData and that becoming an edge of persistent congestion, then I'd assume that the wort case that we might want to discuss is when all the following conditions are met:

  • the TLS handshake transcript send by the server does not fit in 3 datagrams (therefore the server would have RTT estimate when sending the first 0.5 RTT data)
  • client spends long time in verifying the certificate chain
  • both the 1-RTT packets that carrried 0.5 RTT data and the first 1-RTT data (i.e. the one containing HANDSHAKE_DONE) gets lost

Under such scenario, persistent congestion would be declared. But then, the condition matches the definition of the previous paragraph. Therefore, I think we can call this a non-issue, if we are fine with what's written in the previous paragraph.

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@martinthomson Where's the behavioral change here?
I find this PR a bit hard to review, since it bunches together unrelated changes.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes
+        / congestion_window

@martinthomson My implementation is something like yours.

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@marten-seemann The behavior of OnPacketsAcked is changed. return in the original code is not correct. In some cases, it returns even if there are more acked packets. Therefore bytes_in_flight is not updated correctly. This PR introduced OnPacketAcked so that return makes sense.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1154,7 +1154,7 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketSent follows:
      if (ack_eliciting):
        time_of_last_ack_eliciting_packet[pn_space] = now()
      OnPacketSentCC(sent_bytes)
-     sent_packets[pn_space][packet_number].size = sent_bytes
+     sent_packets[pn_space][packet_number].sent_bytes = sent_bytes

@martinthomson Do you mean that this line is too long?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1154,7 +1154,7 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketSent follows:
      if (ack_eliciting):
        time_of_last_ack_eliciting_packet[pn_space] = now()
      OnPacketSentCC(sent_bytes)
-     sent_packets[pn_space][packet_number].size = sent_bytes
+     sent_packets[pn_space][packet_number].sent_bytes = sent_bytes

Yes. That is the error that CI is reporting.

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----==_mimepart_5f0fec23da119_6df83fc78dccd960504d1-- From nobody Wed Jul 15 22:57:26 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC653A0EEF for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 22:57:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id si8A2G1cCoRi for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 22:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F2923A0EEE for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 22:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.112.13]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCDFE1652 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 22:57:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594879042; bh=dPTIbcd+a7466/o0UPbiEMctahBp3otPkm7gp0e+wZk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cJzCc1NUx9YZ4tBAh5X4q5x0ViLd/OFetb6Uq9UwBc7iMw83Vmq0OHrsqgi0kw1eB /gacTdkA2x4sKIwhmNB6kdMoRZfVLVMXEbyggcmxFSDIBV1oKYrD608nUZ+B22uWTn bo7D01mt/ux5e9TFabF53fP8Be6jW99TUXMCzjCg= Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 22:57:22 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fixing recovery pseudocode (#3909) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f0fec42bce95_78f53f941aacd96828951"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 05:57:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f0fec42bce95_78f53f941aacd96828951 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson commented on this pull request. > + congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes + / congestion_window As I noted above, you might want to use this instead to deal with the CI issues. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3909#discussion_r455526756 ----==_mimepart_5f0fec42bce95_78f53f941aacd96828951 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes
+        / congestion_window

As I noted above, you might want to use this instead to deal with the CI issues.

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I think that this issue is a design issue and also that the current state of #3889 is a design change.

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This is a design issue, but only if we decide to do something. Personally, I'm happy to defer this. But this is not my issue; this was raised in a WGLC email from @gloinul.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1154,7 +1154,7 @@ Pseudocode for OnPacketSent follows:
      if (ack_eliciting):
        time_of_last_ack_eliciting_packet[pn_space] = now()
      OnPacketSentCC(sent_bytes)
-     sent_packets[pn_space][packet_number].size = sent_bytes
+     sent_packets[pn_space][packet_number].sent_bytes = sent_bytes

I understand. Thanks!

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      congestion_window += max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes
+        / congestion_window

I took the wrapping one. Thanks.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +    // Do not increase congestion_window if application
+    // limited or flow control limited.
+    if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited())
+      return
+
+    // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period.
+    if (InCongestionRecovery(acked_packet.time_sent)):
+      return
+
+    if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
+      // Slow start.
+      congestion_window += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+    else:
+      // Congestion avoidance.
+      congestion_window += 
+        max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes

While we are talking about this... this formula may not increase cwnd at all when acked_packet.sent_bytes is pretty small and congestion_window is high (meaning, when mss x sent_bytes < cwnd), because this is integer operation in most of the implementation. It may lead to too conversative cwnd growth during congestion avoidance.

One solution is to use RFC3465 (TCP ABC) style congestion avoidance. https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3465.html#section-2.1

If you guys think it's beneficial I'd open a new PR.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +    // Do not increase congestion_window if application
+    // limited or flow control limited.
+    if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited())
+      return
+
+    // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period.
+    if (InCongestionRecovery(acked_packet.time_sent)):
+      return
+
+    if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
+      // Slow start.
+      congestion_window += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+    else:
+      // Congestion avoidance.
+      congestion_window += 
+        max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes

Let's fix it in another PR.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +    // Do not increase congestion_window if application
+    // limited or flow control limited.
+    if (IsAppOrFlowControlLimited())
+      return
+
+    // Do not increase congestion window in recovery period.
+    if (InCongestionRecovery(acked_packet.time_sent)):
+      return
+
+    if (congestion_window < ssthresh):
+      // Slow start.
+      congestion_window += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+    else:
+      // Congestion avoidance.
+      congestion_window += 
+        max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes

Yes, using integer math can be a problem here, but I expect each implementation to do what make sense for them to avoid rounding issues.

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I think we might need to do something to avoid or at least caution against terrible RTT samples, but that's being discussed in #3821

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From nobody Thu Jul 16 08:13:09 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A913A0AB1 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:13:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.696 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.696 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kQY5bp-dbx-C for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CCAC3A0AB0 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.108.24]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68398A1F53 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:13:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594912385; bh=QkTKGVBAFdCRRTeED0YKIQDoQvywMXFAuCmyAMwPdi8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=l2ogqitTrLcmC6TGDioWAkugITeJ3mjtW/DnAjFqqIo88PwXVVMsU9iM+4eMslYtv VZg2W3xr4Nt0lLzhAb7AZmBjuE8Feaqbuqp9f/8B7Om1CLZpnqotGv8HU7NqPknHoN 0NTEZCm15R+U99GKS5k9cnX9I6KCM0zv9M1EmdNI= Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:13:05 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify how to represent the packet number if no ACKs have been received (#3915) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f106e81599a7_616f3fe4f96cd964152746"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 15:13:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f106e81599a7_616f3fe4f96cd964152746 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I noticed the 0-RTT specific text in #3914 and thought a general clarification would be better. Conveniently, I don't think anyone has gotten this wrong in their implementation. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3915 -- Commit Summary -- * Clarify how to represent the packet number if no ACKs have been received -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (9) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3915.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3915.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3915 ----==_mimepart_5f106e81599a7_616f3fe4f96cd964152746 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I noticed the 0-RTT specific text in #3914 and thought a general clarification would be better.

Conveniently, I don't think anyone has gotten this wrong in their implementation.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3915

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  • Clarify how to represent the packet number if no ACKs have been received

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The only time the PTO is armed when there are no bytes in flight is when it's a client and it's unsure if the peer has completed address validation, so I'll change the assert to that. It's possible for the client to have 1-RTT keys prior to the server validating it's address, as your code demonstrates.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jul 16 08:25:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94283A0AC6 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:25:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wd0qD7rpiF5D for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 663B83A0AC7 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.105.50]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D5EA04F7 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:25:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594913138; bh=zS6FCA3mIhD+ORF/E3cu6XubTSJ/zFY8mO9i2t4dzLo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0PDZSYy66etIHnDAhKfqiZnBGHMwdGTMMSukfSfPUnpYxf6gqEaMIxMiANf3r0QW8 qWL/2yVYXYVKRkctDpgZYMt8Ap2HPtDIf4nFuPfsGXlfBx9k8G81auGAhi935Js6L8 /Tv1WdXHOzDIE9l4das6C5hK3QCLA0crJrNWHAXM= Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:25:38 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] assertion in GetPtoTimeAndSpace of recovery draft (#3910) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f107172a2cdc_663f3ff6e0acd96c27518c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 15:25:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f107172a2cdc_663f3ff6e0acd96c27518c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I read this a few times and clearly I'm missing something. If bytes_in_flight > 0, then there must be no inflight packets. The other call is preceded by: if (no ack-eliciting packets in flight && PeerCompletedAddressValidation()): So the only way we could enter this code AND have no packets in flight is if PeerCompletedAddressValidation() is false. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3910#issuecomment-659485799 ----==_mimepart_5f107172a2cdc_663f3ff6e0acd96c27518c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I read this a few times and clearly I'm missing something. If bytes_in_flight > 0, then there must be no inflight packets. The other call is preceded by:

if (no ack-eliciting packets in flight &&
PeerCompletedAddressValidation()):

So the only way we could enter this code AND have no packets in flight is if PeerCompletedAddressValidation() is false.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jul 16 10:11:54 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9C73A0044 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:11:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.696 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.696 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MQNyjz4g4bbe for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B27E43A003E for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.108.24]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002E052047A for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:11:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594919510; bh=SrBfWLEZsKhF3UwxCFDfoclu5TtMgs/ldUw+7bUqr3s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=v1BPhb2ujdbs8nnvj5ntEpTBoMO3saZ5T1Cg8yFQzKmw8djVLjJ4/bTWTylxTz2PV cj3XVi1Ogw6E93Z5hO6ey2L6ybRrC6RiGfzBvlMookXeoWJp6do5N6fhuTeYdcUKwa UG1TfcYGaF4eZaAruDj3P65iOVuUqKt36OUR7P/k= Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:11:49 -0700 From: Junho Choi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Byte counting at Congestion avoidance (#3917) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f108a55e4a80_5263fde9facd95c157714"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: junhochoi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:11:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f108a55e4a80_5263fde9facd95c157714 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is an issue in current congestion avoidance pseudocode when `max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes < congestion_window` cwnd increment effectively becomes zero, especially because most implementations use integer operation to calculate cwnd. This happens when `acked_packet.sent_bytes` is a small value or `congestion_window` is very big. It may lead to too conversavative cwnd growth during congestion avoidance. To fix the issue, I propose to use a TCP ABC style cwnd growth during congestion avoidance: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3465.html#section-2.1 Basically it stores accumulated acked bytes in a new variable `bytes_acked` and increate cwnd by `max_datagram_size` when `bytes_acked` reaches to cwnd. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3917 -- Commit Summary -- * Byte counting at Congestion avoidance -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (13) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3917.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3917.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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There is an issue in current congestion avoidance pseudocode
when max_datagram_size * acked_packet.sent_bytes < congestion_window
cwnd increment effectively becomes zero, especially because most
implementations use integer operation to calculate cwnd.

This happens when acked_packet.sent_bytes is a small value or
congestion_window is very big. It may lead to too conversavative
cwnd growth during congestion avoidance.

To fix the issue, I propose to use a TCP ABC style cwnd growth
during congestion avoidance: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3465.html#section-2.1

Basically it stores accumulated acked bytes in a new
variable bytes_acked and increate cwnd by max_datagram_size when
bytes_acked reaches to cwnd.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3917

Commit Summary

  • Byte counting at Congestion avoidance

File Changes

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I'm not sure this is necessary, since we don't specify the variables as integers, but if we were going to make a change, I'd prefer the CWND increment in bytes rather than max_datagram_size, since it's a smoother increase.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @pravb argues that limiting bursts to IW is too small a limit in his WGLC comments here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/_KeDg0RMQqP5epdYQdFb0M7MJ5s/ Section 7.9 "Implementations MUST either use pacing or another method to limit such bursts to the initial congestion window; see Section 7.2." This seems to preclude use of segmentation offload of sizes greater than IW. In datacenters we routinely send bursts that are higher without causing loss. The MUST here seems unnecessary. It also conflicts with the RECOMMENDED in an earlier sentence. Neal Cardwell's suggestion: "Implementations MUST either use pacing or another method to limit such bursts. It is RECOMMENDED that traffic over the public Internet limit bursts to the initial congestion window; see Section 7.2." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3918 ----==_mimepart_5f10a8386e719_28523fdc99acd9648376e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@pravb argues that limiting bursts to IW is too small a limit in his WGLC comments here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/_KeDg0RMQqP5epdYQdFb0M7MJ5s/

Section 7.9

"Implementations MUST either use pacing or another method to limit such bursts to the initial congestion window; see Section 7.2."

This seems to preclude use of segmentation offload of sizes greater than IW. In datacenters we routinely send bursts that are higher without causing loss. The MUST here seems unnecessary. It also conflicts with the RECOMMENDED in an earlier sentence.

Neal Cardwell's suggestion:
"Implementations MUST either use pacing or another method to limit such bursts.
It is RECOMMENDED that traffic over the public Internet limit bursts to the initial
congestion window; see Section 7.2."

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----==_mimepart_5f10a8386e719_28523fdc99acd9648376e-- From nobody Thu Jul 16 12:19:39 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A6F3A0B2C for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:19:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W3P32xITllPM for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AD373A0B20 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-275fa97.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-275fa97.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.64]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746F7A1F5B for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:19:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594927175; bh=/O8l6MQNVRoYj3kF4wLO0r3TETxImMERnv5qmBVERc0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LF3duRpE9YjkqauC02xLPxB6yJml2LIyA0vBXjkfZilOahp75Hx9EROBbV08MUTSQ 1ifu4osA7UsY20ynGAjjvBiiTjuk+4vyfMNjOKHq0GRKFFa+7g+q53UrKCPOx6DEht iPov6VUQ0ZZgjlvZYPTWsKf4gaSwXPq2MeQQ8nFM= Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:19:35 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Praveen's WGLC comments (#3919) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f10a847658e3_627b3f8da74cd9602397c1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:19:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f10a847658e3_627b3f8da74cd9602397c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/_KeDg0RMQqP5epdYQdFb0M7MJ= 5s/, minus the question of limiting bursts, which is in Issue #3918=0D =0D Section 2=0D =0D " are not acknowledged, declared lost, or abandoned along with old keys."= --> are not acknowledged, declared lost, or discarded along with old ke= ys."=0D =0D Discarding is the term used in the rest of the doc notably in section 2.4= . I see some reference to "abandon packets" in the transport draft as wel= l. Would be good to use the same term for consistency everywhere.=0D =0D =0D Section 4.4. =0D =0D "does not allow any acked packet to be reneged" --> "does not allow any = acknowledged packet to be reneged"=0D =0D =0D Section 4.7=0D =0D "QUIC uses a probe timeout (see Section 6.2)," --> "QUIC uses a Probe Tim= eout (PTO) (see Section 6.2),"=0D =0D =0D Section 5.2 "If the path's actual RTT increases, the min_rtt will not ada= pt to it, allowing future RTT samples that are smaller than the new RTT = be included in smoothed_rtt."=0D =0D Would it safer to reset min_rtt after persistent congestion is declared. = This is important so we can adapt to a consistent spike in RTT as a resul= t of a path change.=0D =0D =0D Section 6.1.1=0D =0D "Algorithms that increase the reordering threshold after spuriously detec= ting losses, such as TCP-NCR [RFC4653], have proven to be useful in TCP a= nd are expected to at least as useful in QUIC."=0D =0D It might be better to refer to RACK here which has an optional feature to= increase reorder threshold in time. I don't know of any major implementa= tions that do TCP-NCR but maybe I am mistaken.=0D =0D =0D Section 6.2.1=0D =0D "time threshold Section 6.1.2" --> time threshold (Section 6.1.2)=0D =0D =0D =E2=80=9CThe life of a connection that is experiencing consecutive PTOs i= s limited by the endpoint's idle timeout.=E2=80=9D=0D =0D Is there any specification of recommended values for idle timeout? Any va= lues lower than 9 seconds could adversely impact preserving of connectivi= ty during VM live migration.=0D =0D =0D Section 6.2.4=0D =0D "If the sender wants to elicit a faster acknowledgement on PTO, it can sk= ip a packet number to eliminate the ack delay."=0D =0D This adds some unnecessary complexity. Given that endpoint MAY send two f= ull-sized datagrams, isn't that a better technique than skipping packet n= umbers?=0D =0D =0D Section 7.8=0D =0D "The congestion period is calculated as the time between the oldest and n= ewest lost packets: (3 - 0) =3D 3." --> "The congestion period is calcula= ted as the sent time difference between the oldest and newest lost packet= s: (3 - 0) =3D 3."=0D =0D It might be worth noting that persistent congestion can be declared witho= ut sending a PTO. Particularly because the example assumes PTOs. In the c= ase where app kept on periodically sending new data and no ACKs came back= for the threshold and then an ACK came back and declared all packets sen= t before it as lost.=0D =0D =0D Section 8.2=0D =0D "Endpoints can use PADDING frames or bundle acknowledgments with other fr= ames to reduce leaked information."=0D A reminder should be added here that PADDING counts towards in-flight so = there is a possible impact on performance.=0D =0D =0D Section B.8=0D =0D The function AreAllPacketsLost does not have any pseudocode.=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3919= ----==_mimepart_5f10a847658e3_627b3f8da74cd9602397c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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From https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg= /quic/_KeDg0RMQqP5epdYQdFb0M7MJ5s/, minus the question of limiting bu= rsts, which is in Issue #3918

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Section 2

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" are not acknowledged, declared lost, or abandoned along with old key= s." --> are not acknowledged, declared lost, or discarded along with = old keys."

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Discarding is the term used in the rest of the doc notably in section = 2.4. I see some reference to "abandon packets" in the transport draft as = well. Would be good to use the same term for consistency everywhere.

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Section 4.4.

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"does not allow any acked packet to be reneged" --> "does not allow= any acknowledged packet to be reneged"

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Section 4.7

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"QUIC uses a probe timeout (see Section 6.2)," --> "QUIC uses a Pro= be Timeout (PTO) (see Section 6.2),"

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Section 5.2 "If the path's actual RTT increases, the min_rtt will not = adapt to it, allowing future RTT samples that are smaller than the new R= TT be included in smoothed_rtt."

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Would it safer to reset min_rtt after persistent congestion is declare= d. This is important so we can adapt to a consistent spike in RTT as a re= sult of a path change.

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Section 6.1.1

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"Algorithms that increase the reordering threshold after spuriously de= tecting losses, such as TCP-NCR [RFC4653], have proven to be useful in TC= P and are expected to at least as useful in QUIC."

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It might be better to refer to RACK here which has an optional feature= to increase reorder threshold in time. I don't know of any major impleme= ntations that do TCP-NCR but maybe I am mistaken.

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Section 6.2.1

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"time threshold Section 6.1.2" --> time threshold (Section 6.1.2)=0D

=E2=80=9CThe life of a connection that is experiencing consecutive PTO= s is limited by the endpoint's idle timeout.=E2=80=9D

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Is there any specification of recommended values for idle timeout? Any= values lower than 9 seconds could adversely impact preserving of connect= ivity during VM live migration.

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Section 6.2.4

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"If the sender wants to elicit a faster acknowledgement on PTO, it can= skip a packet number to eliminate the ack delay."

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This adds some unnecessary complexity. Given that endpoint MAY send tw= o full-sized datagrams, isn't that a better technique than skipping packe= t numbers?

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Section 7.8

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"The congestion period is calculated as the time between the oldest an= d newest lost packets: (3 - 0) =3D 3." --> "The congestion period is c= alculated as the sent time difference between the oldest and newest lost = packets: (3 - 0) =3D 3."

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It might be worth noting that persistent congestion can be declared wi= thout sending a PTO. Particularly because the example assumes PTOs. In th= e case where app kept on periodically sending new data and no ACKs came b= ack for the threshold and then an ACK came back and declared all packets = sent before it as lost.

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Section 8.2

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"Endpoints can use PADDING frames or bundle acknowledgments with other= frames to reduce leaked information."
=0D A reminder should be added here that PADDING counts towards in-flight so = there is a possible impact on performance.

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Section B.8

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The function AreAllPacketsLost does not have any pseudocode.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm not sure this is necessary, since we don't specify the variables as integers, but if we were going to make a change, I'd prefer the CWND increment in bytes rather than max_datagram_size, since it's a smoother increase. If we increase CWND in bytes (let say 10 x 1/10 mss, rather than 1 full mss), is it resulting too many small sending packets? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3917#issuecomment-659706920 ----==_mimepart_5f10d316ce1bc_c853f8a296cd96c1269ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm not sure this is necessary, since we don't specify the variables as integers, but if we were going to make a change, I'd prefer the CWND increment in bytes rather than max_datagram_size, since it's a smoother increase.

If we increase CWND in bytes (let say 10 x 1/10 mss, rather than 1 full mss), is it resulting too many small sending packets?

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@kazu-yamamoto : In addition to the PR, the point of the assert is not to suggest that it's always true when (bytes_in_flight == 0). The assert confirms that if OnLossDetectionTimeout() is called with bytes_in_flight == 0, it's only when the server hasn't yet completed address validation.

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I confirmed that the assertion failure disappeared with this modification. Thank you!

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----==_mimepart_5f10f7da6e305_74ec3fe76e8cd96829728d-- From nobody Thu Jul 16 18:11:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFBE3A0E90 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:11:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x3CYBqAkGvxz for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B48303A0E8F for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.25.48]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7AF2601F2 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:11:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594948286; bh=SupCeYh3iFyiXUA4z5dJ2BgsexhiOaXO+/y5y9ZmW98=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=CXkYHDoqqwT3B08Tq+8Se63oq12XKXBW1z5QFHXHwp0nthNOJ7bhcNV2chc0dmco/ Y0eAiJ2xbnhlKZsf3FGmrvZlsB+nWx9T8ikU+tyfc3GEHRcd1EmLzSv3WK5c2OO0gP D3Hj2CKpGriQ0TCC9Gf6XRzslihx0I31w+a1w+6c= Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:11:25 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Byte counting at Congestion avoidance (#3917) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f10fabdcca75_27fc3fb7416cd96839515e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 01:11:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f10fabdcca75_27fc3fb7416cd96839515e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with @ianswett : I don't think this is necessary... perhaps a comment might help clarify that implementers should be careful about integer division here? FWIW, you'll also need to multiply bytes_acked in OnCongestionEvent() by 0.5, and reset it to 0 on a persistent congestion event. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3917#issuecomment-659768179 ----==_mimepart_5f10fabdcca75_27fc3fb7416cd96839515e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree with @ianswett : I don't think this is necessary... perhaps a comment might help clarify that implementers should be careful about integer division here?

FWIW, you'll also need to multiply bytes_acked in OnCongestionEvent() by 0.5, and reset it to 0 on a persistent congestion event.

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----==_mimepart_5f10fabdcca75_27fc3fb7416cd96839515e-- From nobody Thu Jul 16 18:40:11 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F6C3A0EE5 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:40:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AgJqjLOvJwik for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-15.smtp.github.com (out-15.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4472E3A0EDE for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.25.52]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCC42615A5 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:40:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594950007; bh=6fumazDYPQGWTmLJKJ7oEOFS/YcuH9ReM8Yw4p3S3/U=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cDvsYG4h/a63h2GFfMxb+aGUZJfqZsQCn4P/i6YhXPxmol5ijO1ZFfwWKRCM7FzV3 GrJSSyqfm3PHFIAu3LvHzEijfFr7M3p6SakPOeJnQFPahl77NDYPbe0KcRk68Vuy7f tERk2wsYXJ0Hm3Y6rmjRN/njvO7HinjYjk+aE9YQ= Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:40:07 -0700 From: Kazu Yamamoto Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] assertion in GetPtoTimeAndSpace of recovery draft (#3910) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f11017758035_72103fc0aa8cd96c1896e0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazu-yamamoto X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 01:40:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f11017758035_72103fc0aa8cd96c1896e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett In short, you and pseudocode is correct. I made two mistakes. One is explanation above (already fixed). The other is my implementation where the condition was reversed. I confirmed that fixed implementation does not generate assertion warnings. Sorry for bothering you. Let's close this. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3910#issuecomment-659778696 ----==_mimepart_5f11017758035_72103fc0aa8cd96c1896e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett In short, you and pseudocode is correct.

I made two mistakes. One is explanation above (already fixed). The other is my implementation where the condition was reversed. I confirmed that fixed implementation does not generate assertion warnings.

Sorry for bothering you. Let's close this.

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This is really useful! A few minor comments. > + +* Retry packets use AEAD_AES_128_GCM to provide protection against accidental + modification or insertion by off-path adversaries; see + {{retry-integrity}}. + +* Initial packets use AEAD_AES_128_GCM with keys derived from the Destination + Connection ID field of the first Initial packet sent by the client; see + {{initial-secrets}}. + +* All other packets have strong cryptographic protections for confidentiality + and integrity, using keys and algorithms negotiated by TLS. + +This section describes how packet protection is applied to Handshake packets, +0-RTT packets, and packets with short headers. The same packet protection +process is applied to Initial packets. However, as it is trivial to determine +the keys, Initial packets are not considered to have confidentiality or ```suggestion the keys used for Initial packets, these packets are not considered to have confidentiality or ``` > @@ -1175,10 +1175,11 @@ discarded if they indicate a different protocol version than that of the connection, or if the removal of packet protection is unsuccessful once the expected keys are available. -Invalid packets without packet protection, such as Initial, Retry, or Version -Negotiation, MAY be discarded. An endpoint MUST generate a connection error if -processing of the contents of these packets prior to discovering an error -resulted in changes to the state of a connection that cannot be reverted. +Invalid packets that lack strong integrity protection, such as Initial, Retry, +or Version Negotiation, MAY be discarded. An endpoint MUST generate a +connection error if processing of the contents of these packets prior to ```suggestion connection error if processing the contents of these packets prior to ``` > @@ -1175,10 +1175,11 @@ discarded if they indicate a different protocol version than that of the connection, or if the removal of packet protection is unsuccessful once the expected keys are available. -Invalid packets without packet protection, such as Initial, Retry, or Version -Negotiation, MAY be discarded. An endpoint MUST generate a connection error if -processing of the contents of these packets prior to discovering an error -resulted in changes to the state of a connection that cannot be reverted. +Invalid packets that lack strong integrity protection, such as Initial, Retry, +or Version Negotiation, MAY be discarded. An endpoint MUST generate a +connection error if processing of the contents of these packets prior to +discovering an error resulted in changes to the state of a connection that ```suggestion discovering an error resulted in changes to connection state that ``` > @@ -1175,10 +1175,11 @@ discarded if they indicate a different protocol version than that of the connection, or if the removal of packet protection is unsuccessful once the expected keys are available. -Invalid packets without packet protection, such as Initial, Retry, or Version -Negotiation, MAY be discarded. An endpoint MUST generate a connection error if -processing of the contents of these packets prior to discovering an error -resulted in changes to the state of a connection that cannot be reverted. +Invalid packets that lack strong integrity protection, such as Initial, Retry, +or Version Negotiation, MAY be discarded. An endpoint MUST generate a +connection error if processing of the contents of these packets prior to Which error? > +Retry packets use an authenticated encryption with associated data (AEAD; +{{?AEAD=RFC5116}}) function to protect against accidental modification. ```suggestion Retry packets use an authenticated encryption with associated data function (AEAD; {{?AEAD=RFC5116}}) to protect against accidental modification. ``` > +The Packet Number field that appears in some packet types contains a packet +number, which has additional confidentiality protection that is applied as part +of header protection; see Section 5.4 of {{QUIC-TLS}} for details. The +underlying packet number increases with each packet sent in a given packet +number space; see {{packet-numbers}} for details. ```suggestion The Packet Number field that appears in some packet types has additional confidentiality protection that is applied as part of header protection; see Section 5.4 of {{QUIC-TLS}} for details. The underlying packet number increases with each packet sent in a given packet number space; see {{packet-numbers}} for details. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3900#pullrequestreview-450318609 ----==_mimepart_5f1102498f4b7_7ec3fe73a8cd960542513 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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The spec says that 0 should be used for max_ack_delay in Initial and Handshake. In pseudo code, max_ack_delay is used at three places.

In InPersistentCongestion, non-zero value of max_ack_delay is used for Initial and Handshake, which should be fixed. Other two places looks good.

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This is separable from #3821, and I wouldn't mix the two. I agree with = @= kazuho that the design issue here is about whether 3 x PTO is about t= ime, about packets, or both. That needs consensus. This PR is good if con= sensus is on the issue is that PTO is (mostly) about time. We should disc= uss that on #3875.

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In OnAckReceived, sent_packets[pn_space][ack.largest_acked] is not available since it was already removed by DetectAndRemoveAckedPackets. newly_acked_packets.largest() should be used instead.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3921

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  • using newly_acked_packets.largest().

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----==_mimepart_5f11062ad3f1a_24033fa9f30cd960955686-- From nobody Thu Jul 16 19:10:10 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A925E3A0F46 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:10:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f5VTScF-iEd2 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6276F3A0F45 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2e54e43.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2e54e43.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.27]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B293A8C1106 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:10:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594951807; bh=Zzo0+B+LCLnQFn6NYvnNriXkzS3apGfQDn1MXjEgaiM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nnIHiiDJSUcnzzgpeP4mlEUGkZvEN+3gH0wCdZKquqndBcABhz0SxF8fdXFxlMHJo t845tFp4T4EkbFdfi9168NOyLaj3kTexAzYwB4TQLenb1p3CykSTRYsP5UWc6kKSKj SF1Maokf61HQdptY1FdK8J9XOXAbBvkLOE30hopo= Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:10:07 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Do I need to reset congestion info when the port changes? (#3842) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f11087fa3752_74c13f9af5ccd95c749e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 02:10:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f11087fa3752_74c13f9af5ccd95c749e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The amplification limit can probably be used, but it's likely going to not be good enough, since you probably just received a request after a long pause and not a full sized packet. @DavidSchinazi: Does GQUIC have this amplification protection at the moment? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3842#issuecomment-659789324 ----==_mimepart_5f11087fa3752_74c13f9af5ccd95c749e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The amplification limit can probably be used, but it's likely going to not be good enough, since you probably just received a request after a long pause and not a full sized packet.

@DavidSchinazi: Does GQUIC have this amplification protection at the moment?

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I would like to add comments in the following places:

  • / in OnPacketAcked
  • congestion_window *= kLossReductionFactor in CongestionEvent
  • "lost_packets should be retransmitted" in OnPacketsLost
  • "max_ack_delay is updated when TP exchanged, default to 25ms" in Initialization
  • "A sender can send bytes of congestion_window - bytes_in_flight" in Variables of interest

They might be trivial for experts but it is difficult for beginners like me to understand the assumptions.

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@janaiyengar This is an off topic but there is no OnCongestionEvent. The current name is CongestionEvent. I would like to suggest to change it to OnCongestionEvent or OnNewCongestionEvent.

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----==_mimepart_5f110d2f28706_434f3fc46bacd96448479-- From nobody Thu Jul 16 19:45:55 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5E03A0F85 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:45:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mN6D1ORrhlbE for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 569C93A0F84 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.55]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A506E064D for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:45:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594953951; bh=fSRp5lz99QcGZIhE4ZT9IK11OlgHUZAR8uNsaojtLa4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=W+NTKe+jLZlw5QCjc0VVJWWHnBJENgCH8cRw55Y6la9Lf3EcT/Vb/jRBgSZLdV2ar eN7+2I2DScOBllw7LJQrnR7evvpfsmf2NNH8troSoNT4vORuwRcP5CbOPLCOWQmD/i vBRB5DG7+5ZS50hwYC4wjHrVKeTpnnE0ol5ee6Q4= Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:45:51 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Be clearer about protections (#3900) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1110df733cb_1f303fb51cccd95c2734"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 02:45:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1110df733cb_1f303fb51cccd95c2734 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho commented on this pull request. :+1: LGTM modulo the points below. > -Initial packets are protected using keys that are statically derived. This -packet protection is not effective confidentiality protection. Initial -protection only exists to ensure that the sender of the packet is on the network -path. Any entity that receives the Initial packet from a client can recover the -keys necessary to remove packet protection or to generate packets that will be +QUIC packets have different levels of cryptographic protection based on the +type of packet. Details of packet protection are found in {{QUIC-TLS}}; this +section includes an overview of the protections that are provided. + +Version Negotiation packets have no cryptographic protection; see +{{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}. + +Retry packets use an authenticated encryption with associated data (AEAD; +{{?AEAD=RFC5116}}) function to protect against accidental modification. + +Initial packets use an AEAD with keys that are statically derived. This does The keys are generated for each connection, so I think it is confusing to use the word "statically" here. Maybe something like: ```suggestion Initial packets use an AEAD with keys that are derived using a value that is visible on the wire, and therefore does ``` > successfully authenticated. All other packets are protected with keys derived from the cryptographic handshake. The type of the packet from the long header or key phase from the short header are used to identify which encryption keys are used. Packets -protected with 0-RTT and 1-RTT keys are expected to have confidentiality and -data origin authentication; the cryptographic handshake ensures that only the +protected with 0-RTT and 1-RTT keys are expected to have strong confidentiality +and integrity protection; the cryptographic handshake ensures that only the Maybe "authentication, confidentiality, and integrity protection"? I think that would be more consistent with the use of terms thatwe see in RFC 8446 section 1. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@janaiyengar currently Connection Migration on gQUIC does not use an amplification limit nor path validation. We haven't seen that kind of attack at scale. I think we should add those protections when we implement the IETF take on Connection Migration, but we'll need to make sure the performance hit isn't too high. If we go with the amplification factor then we can have the client send a bunch of padding to make it work.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +
+* Version Negotiation packets have no cryptographic protection.
+
+* Retry packets use AEAD_AES_128_GCM to provide protection against accidental
+  modification or insertion by off-path adversaries; see
+  {{retry-integrity}}.
+
+* Initial packets use AEAD_AES_128_GCM with keys derived from the Destination
+  Connection ID field of the first Initial packet sent by the client; see
+  {{initial-secrets}}.
+
+* All other packets have strong cryptographic protections for confidentiality
+  and integrity, using keys and algorithms negotiated by TLS.
+
+This section describes how packet protection is applied to Handshake packets,
+0-RTT packets, and packets with short headers. The same packet protection

"1-RTT packets with short headers" implies that there's another kind of 1-RTT packets.

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It'd be great if clients could send a full-sized datagram after quiescence.

But regardless, I'm not too worried about servers going above 3x in this case, because only an on-path attacker can use this behavior to mount a reflection attack.

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@martinthomson : I agree with what you've spelled out above (here). It is close to what I had in mind, but I didn't do a good job of even spelling out fully what I was thinking.

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----==_mimepart_5f114f9cc13b5_1353fd6770cd964947154-- From nobody Fri Jul 17 03:47:43 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802453A098A for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:47:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EUW8w88l66gW for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55DDF3A097B for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.108.24]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212436E1392 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:47:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594982857; bh=v2tHmH0RJ+RifJXWNUD3JOWYrvnDkguq9vGFbI6tG9c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=BP14YDMFr+2Zq9zQ0JDX38LmvOdz4aSzgzrDvsASR64gbIxayn5EJgl/n0aJRc0a8 mpjnhd/y9TZ0eFrRw3NlrO5VIKFUP/1vaqZImQZ04BacDxTVNfl5Ly7Boq1r4tYUg7 3VnCybGhTUQYlWaMOe6MSEkBK2cDoesNpvDEqQPY= Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:47:37 -0700 From: Amir Livneh Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace one-off use of the word "session" when referring to an HTTP/3 connection (#3922) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1181c910639_44103fd97e4cd960315431"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: amirlivneh X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 10:47:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1181c910639_44103fd97e4cd960315431 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3922 -- Commit Summary -- * Replace one-off use of the word "session" when referring to an HTTP/3 connection -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (8) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3922.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3922.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3922 ----==_mimepart_5f1181c910639_44103fd97e4cd960315431 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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----==_mimepart_5f1181c910639_44103fd97e4cd960315431-- From nobody Fri Jul 17 06:33:57 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79143A08CD for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 06:33:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5aPvV0YNKjAS for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 06:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8725A3A08CB for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 06:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca235ff.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.110.15]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9038C1275 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 06:33:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1594992833; bh=Hcrkfr4hLl79iqCjMwI7a8RH1Mtu1En0bOQh9VIWq0k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wiHihnOCi1X5XfpVGeb5gH6ATatUjLBQy6F7tR0yFUfilQ51PdgLJPy2bPiLlhQGG fzW5eH2A5MaYMeNUQ1pYkCw6yo+dNd/eFSSJ2bY0fWuGuLTb7qRm4gZ2Ork91ZBCgq j8Xx1lscfTXf/bdnc9fAaBwQk9QiggAme+JV2YA4= Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 06:33:53 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Be clearer about protections (#3900) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f11a8c14c43b_2b2c3f85256cd95c180117"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 13:33:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f11a8c14c43b_2b2c3f85256cd95c180117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett commented on this pull request. > + +* Version Negotiation packets have no cryptographic protection. + +* Retry packets use AEAD_AES_128_GCM to provide protection against accidental + modification or insertion by off-path adversaries; see + {{retry-integrity}}. + +* Initial packets use AEAD_AES_128_GCM with keys derived from the Destination + Connection ID field of the first Initial packet sent by the client; see + {{initial-secrets}}. + +* All other packets have strong cryptographic protections for confidentiality + and integrity, using keys and algorithms negotiated by TLS. + +This section describes how packet protection is applied to Handshake packets, +0-RTT packets, and packets with short headers. The same packet protection Fair, but it seems odd to me to talk about the header length and not mention the keys being used. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3900#discussion_r456444805 ----==_mimepart_5f11a8c14c43b_2b2c3f85256cd95c180117 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +
+* Version Negotiation packets have no cryptographic protection.
+
+* Retry packets use AEAD_AES_128_GCM to provide protection against accidental
+  modification or insertion by off-path adversaries; see
+  {{retry-integrity}}.
+
+* Initial packets use AEAD_AES_128_GCM with keys derived from the Destination
+  Connection ID field of the first Initial packet sent by the client; see
+  {{initial-secrets}}.
+
+* All other packets have strong cryptographic protections for confidentiality
+  and integrity, using keys and algorithms negotiated by TLS.
+
+This section describes how packet protection is applied to Handshake packets,
+0-RTT packets, and packets with short headers. The same packet protection

Fair, but it seems odd to me to talk about the header length and not mention the keys being used.

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@kazu-yamamoto renaming to OnCongestionEvent seems fine.

If you want to make a PR, we can go through the comments you want to add, but "lost_packets should be retransmitted" is potentially misleading, since packets aren't retransmitted and their frames aren't always retransmitted. Also, the max_ack_delay is 0, not 25ms, until the transport parameters are received.

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My understanding was the point of changing from PTOs to persistent congestion was to make it about time.

If we think the change in RTT caused by the ACK which triggers the persistent congestion check is an issue, we should ignore that sample when doing the determination. But I'm not convinced the extra complexity is worth it.

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----==_mimepart_5f11cac426c4d_23373fd9512cd96c10274a-- From nobody Fri Jul 17 09:07:36 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E585C3A0832 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:07:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PkKELdJM1l9I for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FC063A0889 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AEB8C0C59 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:07:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595002043; bh=cGOoJJVnxrcPO+OF19k6GhvCkSfkZes1Ft89+0W9O7Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=c6LMRLfvUCR4RFjG/p7Lds77El6EeYYjZlFbh8dhMVMTslgM2ebXZqewQw1V4YK5D jRGHgKOTzhAB3tPXp1bSPHyL0V8FSuAQDoHj2klRm4iU0nn/BOvRLGe2XCn4nA2HRn QAHnEFuNCJbCs5zGgDUzQm/NK2L4OJ0oUDbhg+ps= Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:07:23 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Do I need to reset congestion info when the port changes? (#3842) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f11ccbbe4526_185c3faf32ecd9683046cb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 16:07:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f11ccbbe4526_185c3faf32ecd9683046cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In section 9.3 "Responding to Connection MIgration", we allow sending the initial window per estimated round-trip time. There's no mention of amplification limit I can see. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-29#section-9.3 An endpoint MAY send data to an unvalidated peer address, but it MUST protect against potential attacks as described in Section 9.3.1 and Section 9.3.2. In 9.3.1: Until a peer's address is deemed valid, an endpoint MUST limit the rate at which it sends data to this address. The endpoint MUST NOT send more than a minimum congestion window's worth of data per estimated round-trip time (kMinimumWindow, as defined in [QUIC-RECOVERY]). .... If an endpoint skips validation of a peer address as described in Section 9.3, it does not need to limit its sending rate. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3842#issuecomment-660192315 ----==_mimepart_5f11ccbbe4526_185c3faf32ecd9683046cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In section 9.3 "Responding to Connection MIgration", we allow sending the initial window per estimated round-trip time. There's no mention of amplification limit I can see.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-29#section-9.3
An endpoint MAY send data to an unvalidated peer address, but it MUST
protect against potential attacks as described in Section 9.3.1 and
Section 9.3.2.
In 9.3.1: Until a peer's address is deemed valid, an endpoint MUST
limit the rate at which it sends data to this address. The endpoint
MUST NOT send more than a minimum congestion window's worth of data
per estimated round-trip time (kMinimumWindow, as defined in
[QUIC-RECOVERY]).
....
If an endpoint skips validation of a peer address as described in
Section 9.3, it does not need to limit its sending rate.

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@janaiyengar commenting on integer division is also good I think, but this PR basically removes such concern by not using division any more.

I looked at other places using a division in the pseudo code but other than Pacing section it uses a constant, so improving here is not a bad thing I think.

Also I updated to reduce bytes_acked in CongestionEvent() and reset persistent congestion event.

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@pravb suggestion on the thread is to change the MUST to a SHOULD.

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There's also the classic "MUST unless" option.

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If you want to make a PR, we can go through the comments you want to add, but "lost_packets should be retransmitted" is potentially misleading, since packets aren't retransmitted and their frames aren't always retransmitted.

Yes. What about this? "The information in lost_packets should be retransmitted if necessary."

Also, the max_ack_delay is 0, not 25ms, until the transport parameters are received.

I meant that it is initialized to 0 and updated when the transport parameters are received. If the parameter is not specified, 25ms is set to this parameter.

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@LPardue I think this comment came in prior to WGLC ending, it just didn't get an issue because I'm so behind on email.

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@kazu-yamamoto those changes sound good to me, but it'd be good to see them in context. Want to send me a PR?

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@janaiyengar @ianswett Thank you for sharing the rationale behind the design. I am convinced that the fix in #3889 is fine.

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Do we need to add some pseudo code?

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I don't think it's necessary, but I am also quite fine with this chang= e. I believe a number of implementations do it like this anyway. A couple= of comments.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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        congestion_window *=3D kLossReductionFactor=0D
        congestion_window =3D max(congestion_window, kMinimumWindow)=0D
        ssthresh =3D congestion_window=0D
+       bytes_acked *=3D kLossReductionFactor=0D
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move this up to the line below where the congestion window is reduced<= /p>=0D =0D

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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window):=0D
+        bytes_acked -=3D congestion_window=0D
+        congestion_window +=3D max_datagram_size=0D
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There's a minor behavior difference here from the old code, in that th= e cwnd here increases by at most 1. I think that's fine; I don't think it= 's possible to have an increase that is larger. The following code is the= same as the old behavior, but I don't think it's necessary.

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@marten-seemann : That's probably a good idea.

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Yeah, this was filed in WGLC.

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----==_mimepart_5f125c1f79f8_5a393fa2e72cd96c42594-- From nobody Fri Jul 17 19:23:03 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CD13A07E6 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 19:23:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id au0AzClqfUYQ for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 19:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08FCF3A07E3 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 19:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.105.50]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99ECD8C0ABA for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 19:22:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595038979; bh=yUZaOTlJD8LJaiK7dDKnvCR+Zw7t16zJXp0PHTd003E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=eaxnJYyxYJxJo6cmoGvHzHsfjg2/5b7+3jrQE99OpACQtH4k3FsuukqqbkEEbjswh Y8uHy+0UpwkLLXlrSrA9awboBlk4rBxmx909JIw2BNVHwiqvtxmAtGvQ4JKwH/5qCO /5a8JJUc3P13icDCQ1f/WKIEwLKZte2eYvLKf1xA= Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 19:22:59 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Do I need to reset congestion info when the port changes? (#3842) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f125d0389b54_60b13f91954cd9641421a8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 02:23:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f125d0389b54_60b13f91954cd9641421a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, yes, thank you for finding that text. I think we did that because of=0D= what Kazuho said -- that only an on-path attacker can mount this reflecti= on=0D attack.=0D =0D @nharper @dschinazi: Given the text in 9.3, is there a problem anymore?=0D= =0D On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 9:07 AM ianswett wrote= :=0D =0D > In section 9.3 "Responding to Connection MIgration", we allow sending t= he=0D > initial window per estimated round-trip time. There's no mention of=0D > amplification limit I can see.=0D >=0D > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-29#section-9.3=0D= > An endpoint MAY send data to an unvalidated peer address, but it MUST=0D= > protect against potential attacks as described in Section 9.3.1 and=0D > Section 9.3.2.=0D > In 9.3.1: Until a peer's address is deemed valid, an endpoint MUST=0D > limit the rate at which it sends data to this address. The endpoint=0D > MUST NOT send more than a minimum congestion window's worth of data=0D > per estimated round-trip time (kMinimumWindow, as defined in=0D > [QUIC-RECOVERY]).=0D > ....=0D > If an endpoint skips validation of a peer address as described in=0D > Section 9.3, it does not need to limit its sending rate.=0D >=0D > =E2=80=94=0D > You are receiving this because you were mentioned.=0D > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub=0D > ,=0D > or unsubscribe=0D > =0D > .=0D >=0D =0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3842#issuecomment-660409262= ----==_mimepart_5f125d0389b54_60b13f91954cd9641421a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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=0D @nharper @dschinazi: Given the text in 9.3, is there a problem anymore?=0D
=0D On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 9:07 AM ianswett <notifications@github.com>= wrote:
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=0D > per estimated round-trip time (kMinimumWindow, as defined in
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=0D > If an endpoint skips validation of a peer address as described in=0D > Section 9.3, it does not need to limit its sending rate.
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@janaiyengar we'll have to run experiments to confirm that. Since kMinimumWindow is defined as 10 packets, that might be enough for most requests. If it doesn't turn out to be enough, we may need to change the limit to max(kMinimumWindow, amplification_factor * num_packets_received_on_unvalidated_path) - but we'll collect data before we propose a change like that

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +: Store how many bytes acked so far. During congestion avoidance,
+  congestion window will be incremented by max_datagram_size
+  when this value is same or bigger than the congestion window.

LGTM. Updated.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1562,6 +1569,7 @@ window.
        congestion_window *= kLossReductionFactor
        congestion_window = max(congestion_window, kMinimumWindow)
        ssthresh = congestion_window
+       bytes_acked *= kLossReductionFactor

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

I don't think while() is necessary because OnPacketAcked() (recently changed) is called per acked packet, so acked_packet.sent_bytes is always smaller than max_datagram_size.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +Prior to any acknowledgements being received for a packet number space, there is
+no largest acknowledge packet, so the full packet number is encoded in the
+header.
+

I think that we need to move this paragraph up one. And it might instead say:

Prior to receiving an acknowledgement for a packet number space, the full packet number MUST be included.

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Maybe a wordier version is clearer: "Persistent congestion SHOULD NOT consider packets that were sent prior to obtaining an RTT sample. Correctly detecting persistent congestion can depend on packets being sent on PTO expiration. The initial RTT, which is used to set the PTO timer, might be too conservative. If the first RTT sample results in a much smaller RTT, the resulting persistent congestion interval might contain too few packets for their loss to be indicative of congestion." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3889#pullrequestreview-451174759 ----==_mimepart_5f14dc22de2fa_1a703fafe82cd9682741a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +The persistent congestion period SHOULD NOT start until there is at
+least one RTT sample, both because the length of the period is unknown and
+the PTO may be excessively conservative.

Maybe a wordier version is clearer:

"Persistent congestion SHOULD NOT consider packets that were sent prior to obtaining an RTT sample. Correctly detecting persistent congestion can depend on packets being sent on PTO expiration. The initial RTT, which is used to set the PTO timer, might be too conservative. If the first RTT sample results in a much smaller RTT, the resulting persistent congestion interval might contain too few packets for their loss to be indicative of congestion."

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  successfully authenticated.
 
 All other packets are protected with keys derived from the cryptographic
 handshake. The type of the packet from the long header or key phase from the
 short header are used to identify which encryption keys are used. Packets
-protected with 0-RTT and 1-RTT keys are expected to have confidentiality and
-data origin authentication; the cryptographic handshake ensures that only the
+protected with 0-RTT and 1-RTT keys are expected to have strong confidentiality
+and integrity protection; the cryptographic handshake ensures that only the

Those are inclusive of other properties provided by TLS, so the packet protection doesn't strictly provide authentication in the same way.

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----==_mimepart_5f1506544f14d_5b793f90816cd968558139-- From nobody Sun Jul 19 23:10:54 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE49C3A0B83 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 23:10:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xQGsUysksNr8 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 23:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 962ED3A0B81 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 23:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.112.13]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CCC282A4B for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 23:10:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595225449; bh=/OM9DM7ImE//ofIeSxedq8BF0/ThmklB0h+zjrIs1Kw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YnIsxd7txJTbiZj/zOuFMkMh6vYY6AaLkzBQ9GvzWns2FGt2H5xgeXr2z8WxPL0v/ gssrGmQsGYoTY835hdNN+6eXX7ML4CSXvssWHXYTqAsqilBsK7P+IZwjD5YYr97pQw P3+2KCURJObvrP1yXFgIPregKsR7Puw/jREonmHM= Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 23:10:49 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't use example values in persistent congestion example (#3923) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f153569c6f88_10923f891f4cd960106927c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 06:10:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f153569c6f88_10923f891f4cd960106927c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The example shown counts multiples of the PTO, so the max_ack_delay and rttvar values chosen aren't really relevant. The first is only ever 0 during the handshake and the second is never zero unless you have faster than light packet transmission. Counting number of times the base PTO lapses is clearer, and avoids having to use unrealistic values for these two values. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3923 ----==_mimepart_5f153569c6f88_10923f891f4cd960106927c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The example shown counts multiples of the PTO, so the max_ack_delay and rttvar values chosen aren't really relevant. The first is only ever 0 during the handshake and the second is never zero unless you have faster than light packet transmission. Counting number of times the base PTO lapses is clearer, and avoids having to use unrealistic values for these two values.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  successfully authenticated.
 
 All other packets are protected with keys derived from the cryptographic
 handshake. The type of the packet from the long header or key phase from the
 short header are used to identify which encryption keys are used. Packets
-protected with 0-RTT and 1-RTT keys are expected to have confidentiality and
-data origin authentication; the cryptographic handshake ensures that only the
+protected with 0-RTT and 1-RTT keys are expected to have strong confidentiality
+and integrity protection; the cryptographic handshake ensures that only the

I'm not against viewing that way, though then I think it might be better to talk about 0-RTT, Handshake and 1-RTT packets, rather than just 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets.

It might be a good idea to change the first sentence of the paragraph to the following and remove the last sentence: All other packets are expected to provide strong confidentiality and integrity protection using the keys derived from the cryptograph handshake; the handshake ensures that only the communicating endpoints receive the corresponding keys.

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Do folks agree the PR resolves this?

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----==_mimepart_5f158eaacee95_66d53fa63e8cd95c812a0-- From nobody Mon Jul 20 05:32:39 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2049A3A0A53 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 05:32:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S6Yzo5fEIN7A for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 05:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E0D83A097E for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 05:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-bb778fb.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-bb778fb.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.102.56]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF7B26184F for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 05:32:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595248349; bh=hhcuZum4K0mxdQSh4jkArRnPyvyC6dX7tp8cuofu9fs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZppRKf/fSVynEwwJoQ8r3VflVxHj2BBvIeS2lOG99r7a/Jn8vValcp1PdMcyftrio dh058+F8duxqeG4qN+/0Z1wcEnbjbLQrCluvMZS8xbSKwoFDpYr22n1umjIGuorYl2 bMRZBQiYdohEY2uc11uGF4qBNKt0GqxmBRQ+FlDc= Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 05:32:28 -0700 From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Are 13.2.3 and 13.2.4 normative or not? (#3852) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f158edcbd3b6_46183ff9704cd96c1459fd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 12:32:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f158edcbd3b6_46183ff9704cd96c1459fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone want to help @ianswett out and take this on? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3852#issuecomment-660999793 ----==_mimepart_5f158edcbd3b6_46183ff9704cd96c1459fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Yup, it's a duplicate of #3892 I missed that when filing this.

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----==_mimepart_5f15a897ec6bd_446c3f9e924cd96410363f-- From nobody Mon Jul 20 07:22:24 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E233A0B21 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:22:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id igjmhSyQL2HE for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CD6F3A0B1C for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-bb778fb.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-bb778fb.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.102.56]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F222DA060D for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:22:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595254936; bh=M40ueUmUncFnJDMi7IwIXO7baQPBAxqtvJSfYIgoZN8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NcLn85DS9GJrSmvjJ5H9ugGVnr0kI0KrjpJEIfyiEFk/1X4CUWLfeAAfD/pXC2oZn Q/SP8S/7fxtd+sTB7L5++BqUOHUazwXGBuiF0URmgEs2vVbM8CPV8/YTDsnYb+pHP7 2epRegWxvnu+d4CMYBKxLmJuPec+JooaVTiJmoQY= Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:22:16 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Initial window bursts are too small (#3918) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f15a898e2779_14fb3f8e0e2cd96493297"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 14:22:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f15a898e2779_14fb3f8e0e2cd96493297 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #3918. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3918#event-3566099038 ----==_mimepart_5f15a898e2779_14fb3f8e0e2cd96493297 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Closed #3918.

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----==_mimepart_5f15a898e2779_14fb3f8e0e2cd96493297-- From nobody Mon Jul 20 07:24:31 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0F03A0B26 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:24:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=2.059, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R1VD3K83KQYO for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C83653A0B25 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.61]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BE62829FE for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:24:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595255068; bh=GbvBhAM04QckZeRPRSPlCXrkwuCKGQssXVz5QylsePs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=uOSLltFXCL2/1QFKUSt+kYXO25DBsnBkEE5jC6Qhh2pkieiJXRKt4TruLykgYZ0kb ywjsE9ZBwAbB5uZG3gxXEB47MZ7lcH4jwd08XFruRql6uRFwqE8Ervwk5xgAb12OBa aKmqKHs0UZQDu+qAMV1RYuPkhCod7IvxEKj9gf6A= Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:24:28 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] What does "MUST reduce" mean? (#3845) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f15a91c5f4b_74a93fd5e72cd95c2276e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 14:24:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f15a91c5f4b_74a93fd5e72cd95c2276e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the PR resolves this and is a sensible choice. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3845#issuecomment-661072111 ----==_mimepart_5f15a91c5f4b_74a93fd5e72cd95c2276e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think the PR resolves this and is a sensible choice.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Jul 20 07:38:23 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D078C3A0B50 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:38:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.696 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.696 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uYlV3QXB1yLh for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65CC03A0B53 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.61]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09A3E0068 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:38:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595255899; bh=cZvuEmPJ8uSTVZovywjh8am6xWYKPe852lPXlMT/Usg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Vhw8F+uRYzN55PPtJXNHlDz6UHkiz/i4UhYktfGCdz1rhd6uSVbicggKnhJTzE6Pu zxfShS0qB7knFxYGKdT0kFbncNztSX/0OeRiqsR6u4dKRo52vvBEsSQvFyU7RadVi2 KvJX30QvSyANoJLjRgB+roD+IIGJhpg+OSA+5HGM= Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:38:19 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] May use 64+bit CIDs as address validation (#3924) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f15ac5b90dab_25183fed762cd9603218b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 14:38:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f15ac5b90dab_25183fed762cd9603218b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not sure this changes anything in practice, since the client can't rely on it and the server could already do this, but explicitly saying it seems preferable. Fixes #3834 You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3924 -- Commit Summary -- * May use 64+bit CIDs as address validation -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (4) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3924.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3924.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3924 ----==_mimepart_5f15ac5b90dab_25183fed762cd9603218b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm not sure this changes anything in practice, since the client can't rely on it and the server could already do this, but explicitly saying it seems preferable.

Fixes #3834

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@larseggert there is now.

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I think I'm ok with close with no action from a design perspective, but I find having this text in multiple locations and having similar, but different statements quite confusing.

I'd rather you label this editorial and we try to make the text a bit clearer and/or better organized.

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@LPardue and my read of the discussion was that a solution that was going to address the issue would have to be a design change. Hence it's a design issue, and the resolution is "no change".

We can definitely spin out some related editorial changes into another issue though.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +The persistent congestion period SHOULD NOT start until there is at
+least one RTT sample, both because the length of the period is unknown and
+the PTO may be excessively conservative.

I find the first sentence potentially confusing, but I can make this more verbose along the lines of the second two sentences.

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I think this is a useful improvement. > @@ -1876,7 +1876,9 @@ Connection establishment implicitly provides address validation for both endpoints. In particular, receipt of a packet protected with Handshake keys confirms that the client received the Initial packet from the server. Once the server has successfully processed a Handshake packet from the client, it can -consider the client address to have been validated. +consider the client address to have been validated. Servers MAY treat the +receipt of a packet using a server generated destination connection ID with nit: s/server generated/server-generated/ -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3924#pullrequestreview-451901278 ----==_mimepart_5f15f2608341c_44923f9f29ecd968241fa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@DavidSchinazi approved this pull request.

I think this is a useful improvement.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1876,7 +1876,9 @@ Connection establishment implicitly provides address validation for both
 endpoints.  In particular, receipt of a packet protected with Handshake keys
 confirms that the client received the Initial packet from the server.  Once the
 server has successfully processed a Handshake packet from the client, it can
-consider the client address to have been validated.
+consider the client address to have been validated.  Servers MAY treat the
+receipt of a packet using a server generated destination connection ID with

nit: s/server generated/server-generated/

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1876,7 +1876,9 @@ Connection establishment implicitly provides address validation for both
 endpoints.  In particular, receipt of a packet protected with Handshake keys
 confirms that the client received the Initial packet from the server.  Once the
 server has successfully processed a Handshake packet from the client, it can
-consider the client address to have been validated.
+consider the client address to have been validated.  Servers MAY treat the
+receipt of a packet using a server generated destination connection ID with

SGTM, for the future, suggestions are faster for me to commit.

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@kazu-yamamoto commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

I agree with @junhochoi.

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This will be a randomly-selected value unless the client creates the Initial packet after receiving a Retry packet, where the Destination Connection ID is selected by the server. -The value of initial_salt is a 20-byte sequence shown in the figure in -hexadecimal notation. Future versions of QUIC SHOULD generate a new salt value, -thus ensuring that the keys are different for each version of QUIC. This -prevents a middlebox that only recognizes one version of QUIC from seeing or -modifying the contents of packets from future versions. +Future versions of QUIC SHOULD generate a new salt value, thus ensuring that +the keys are different for each version of QUIC. This prevents a middlebox that +only recognizes one version of QUIC from seeing or modifying the contents of ```suggestion recognizes only one version of QUIC from seeing or modifying the contents of ``` > +Initial packets use an AEAD with keys that are derived using a value that is +visible on the wire, and therefore does not provide effective confidentiality +protection. Initial protection exists to ensure that the sender of the packet is A bit of a run-on sentence here. Maybe: "Initial packets use an AEAD, the keys for which are derived using a value that is visible on the wire. The AEAD for Initial packets therefore does not provide effective ..." > -Initial packets are protected using keys that are statically derived. This -packet protection is not effective confidentiality protection. Initial -protection only exists to ensure that the sender of the packet is on the network -path. Any entity that receives the Initial packet from a client can recover the -keys necessary to remove packet protection or to generate packets that will be -successfully authenticated. +Version Negotiation packets have no cryptographic protection; see +{{QUIC-INVARIANTS}}. + +Retry packets use an authenticated encryption with associated data function +(AEAD; {{?AEAD=RFC5116}}) to protect against accidental modification. + +Initial packets use an AEAD with keys that are derived using a value that is +visible on the wire, and therefore does not provide effective confidentiality +protection. Initial protection exists to ensure that the sender of the packet is +on the network path. Any entity that receives the Initial packet from a client ```suggestion on the network path. Any entity that receives an Initial packet from a client ``` > +can recover the keys that will allow them to read the contents of packets or +generate packets that will be successfully authenticated. ```suggestion can recover the keys that will allow them to both read the contents of the packet and generate Initial packets that will be successfully authenticated at either endpoint. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3900#pullrequestreview-452077287 ----==_mimepart_5f16502147100_87b3fa8464cd960183263 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Yup, the PR resolves this.

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Assuming that this understanding is correct, I think we should not pass `lost_packets` as an argument (to this function or to the `AreAllPacketsLost` that is being called from this function), because `lost_packets` is a per-PN value that is obtained by calling `DetectAndRemoveLostPackets(pn_space)`. And I think that this mitigates the concern raised in #3831. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3889#pullrequestreview-452095286 ----==_mimepart_5f165cc1ec57d_76e43ff5c5acd9603848a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1581,6 +1588,10 @@ Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
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    InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):

IIUC, this function is expected to check for losses across all packet number spaces. Assuming that this understanding is correct, I think we should not pass lost_packets as an argument (to this function or to the AreAllPacketsLost that is being called from this function), because lost_packets is a per-PN value that is obtained by calling DetectAndRemoveLostPackets(pn_space).

And I think that this mitigates the concern raised in #3831.

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----==_mimepart_5f165cc1ec57d_76e43ff5c5acd9603848a7-- From nobody Mon Jul 20 20:17:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785213A1353 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 20:17:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Sq_VjCr8wvRh for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 20:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BA803A1354 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 20:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-292e294.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-292e294.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.102.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3624D520083 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 20:17:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595301442; bh=z9Aru9Qh+d1WEvokTTBQAGALjhGphai9O+lgeDa2cDc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=n0RxCWDZE5kiJ+l9XA6UaML+UOAJp/N9wGV3aa4j1BYWyb2VXTf+QL+62yCG1OyGZ EhjkcHctjf4UVXo1m9kNoihk/gy8bDic88jY96tD+UFYgTeFNviqKZ/HuTWpDvGD3M 2m7zLpLlx0B9DARAae1dOHp+/avwx9fP6k2qE/78= Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 20:17:22 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Byte counting at Congestion avoidance (#3917) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f165e4227834_35a23fc4918cd968107228"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 03:17:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f165e4227834_35a23fc4918cd968107228 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @janaiyengar commented on this pull request. A minor editorial nit, but looks good. > +: Records number of bytes acked and used during congestion + avoidance, for incrementing the congestion window. ```suggestion : Records number of bytes acked, and used for incrementing the congestion window during congestion avoidance. ``` > + if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window): + bytes_acked -= congestion_window + congestion_window += max_datagram_size Agreed. I wanted to note the difference, but as I said, I don't think it's necessary. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3917#pullrequestreview-452097360 ----==_mimepart_5f165e4227834_35a23fc4918cd968107228 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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A minor editorial nit, but looks good.

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OK, I'll label this as ready, and you can spin a new editorial issue for any such changes.

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Labelling as such.

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----==_mimepart_5f168fccd0a36_12fb3fd77a8cd96c675f1-- From nobody Mon Jul 20 23:50:30 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021963A1453 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:50:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kindnc8jaBW9 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C17473A1454 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0eea13f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0eea13f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.109.26]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238BD6E1E09 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:50:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595314225; bh=56vQGZlO57Kz/SmjNddukPBhuwmI+fVK6gz5QNXoCeY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qf0iG6/Fhmdwvmu4ijzzMTldy7omeY3RtCKITTCx1xLgR7a05rcNEXexplY15HwMq 1ini+qrgRRHTsVnMIBZFyMUv3+h2lFSkHitpURmCsVnJgb4atYGSYD4V2Yd1TPuc55 +uSoVSQRUc2MdDpl9PwZhVmusv98MW8RzaKpp6DY= Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:50:25 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] May use 64+bit CIDs as address validation (#3924) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f169031144b2_357b3f9c3b4cd9682240a3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 06:50:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f169031144b2_357b3f9c3b4cd9682240a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson commented on this pull request. > +consider the client address to have been validated. Servers MAY treat the +receipt of a packet using a server-generated destination connection ID with +at least 64 bits of entropy as address validation. Longest sentence ever. Though I agree with having a new paragraph for this separate concept. > A server MAY consider the client address to be valid if the client uses a connection ID chosen by the server and the connection ID contains at least 64 bits of entropy. BTW, it is not necessary that the connection ID be provided by the server in Source Connection ID, it's just overwhelmingly likely. (In an extreme case, involving very specific sorts of loss, this could use a connection ID provided in NEW_CONNECTION_ID; preferred_address is also unlikely but marginally more likely.) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3924#discussion_r457874256 ----==_mimepart_5f169031144b2_357b3f9c3b4cd9682240a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +consider the client address to have been validated.  Servers MAY treat the
+receipt of a packet using a server-generated destination connection ID with
+at least 64 bits of entropy as address validation.

Longest sentence ever. Though I agree with having a new paragraph for this separate concept.

A server MAY consider the client address to be valid if the client uses a connection ID chosen by the server and the connection ID contains at least 64 bits of entropy.

BTW, it is not necessary that the connection ID be provided by the server in Source Connection ID, it's just overwhelmingly likely. (In an extreme case, involving very specific sorts of loss, this could use a connection ID provided in NEW_CONNECTION_ID; preferred_address is also unlikely but marginally more likely.)

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 06:53:25 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 35b28e13aa41ebc53b3e053a8b52868bfb81a8e8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/35b28e13aa41ebc53b3e053a8b52868bfb81a8e8 Author: ianswett Date: 2020-07-16 (Thu, 16 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Clarify how to represent the packet number if no ACKs have been received I noticed the 0-RTT specific text in #3914 and thought a general clarification would be better. Commit: b029ae61e52c7d7beb1bc751ed0843d5095d4490 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b029ae61e52c7d7beb1bc751ed0843d5095d4490 Author: ianswett Date: 2020-07-16 (Thu, 16 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Commit: f009224fcd784f2e5ea88bdb11dcdb4adfb0badd https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f009224fcd784f2e5ea88bdb11dcdb4adfb0badd Author: ianswett Date: 2020-07-20 (Mon, 20 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Martin's suggestion Commit: e25d48bd6227bf2f0616da85f317c341441977ad https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e25d48bd6227bf2f0616da85f317c341441977ad Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-20 (Mon, 20 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- fix lint Commit: 78be8b52f45d8ead9793b48dde570d822ed02d1f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/78be8b52f45d8ead9793b48dde570d822ed02d1f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-21 (Tue, 21 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3915 from quicwg/ianswett-clarify-pn-encoding Clarify how to represent the packet number if no ACKs have been received Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/e903869c58f9...78be8b52f45d From nobody Mon Jul 20 23:53:35 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8963A145B for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:53:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dbHmMHIHzyOr for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A22323A145C for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-9d2806a.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-9d2806a.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.102.50]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCAEAA0AA5 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:53:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595314411; bh=3uKZjMDhsngi+ysvsMo+91yZjrEHfskYoTHJZnsVYrk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MsvP6REbXR18wwhHq08Ec7eHikuzufsGBUKGH77thVGm2gTNv4Ru0OVA3uLFKH26/ 2KyMzob5M+LN4RqpNTw7C4QHSbg3bZpDK8fhuh3HyezSdYYFGHcTw1ohvzxrYUSaAE WB4VhzEXCH29MgCoGG3HiMy2y7JircmOQkF2JEs4= Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:53:31 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify how to represent the packet number if no ACKs have been received (#3915) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1690ebcd356_448c3fe129acd95c25124c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 06:53:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1690ebcd356_448c3fe129acd95c25124c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #3915 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Merged #3915 into master.

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Thanks Ian, this is much clearer.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Jul 20 23:54:52 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89F03A1269 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:54:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2rFPizjnQ-Ff for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16F843A1251 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.22.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789BD6E0C3F for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:54:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595314488; bh=ZiDDN+1aXWd4ODM+2LoMznoJMUdwdGTpqHHBHIk5jns=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=FFbbnZuzIj4JHEvA0+cqj3BZkRVXEXko9L3XgFRNi+FRsPLFXaofU/xJYoN4MLowg wZtfWQ45ZPxm1efqfzuW8VlZoEB7TQyqWEath8s6YqAtdcxrGPq5gHoBjFzKXJ3ooW f9pLR+6WfyF6aDCUtS1zvARwD59XZbRYezsmINx0= Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:54:48 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Coalescing different CIDs for same connection (#3800) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f16913868147_3a8d3fa34dccd96029903"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 06:54:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f16913868147_3a8d3fa34dccd96029903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think we settled on requiring connection IDs to be the same, but I haven't had the time to write that up, so not just yet. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I think we settled on requiring connection IDs to be the same, but I haven't had the time to write that up, so not just yet.

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----==_mimepart_5f16913868147_3a8d3fa34dccd96029903-- From nobody Mon Jul 20 23:55:06 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8285B3A1269 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:55:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5THm0RlJHuuF for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A5523A1251 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29796E09F1 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:55:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595314503; bh=y9ChtDDxNqwnQtzxX3Y41Qv4Hqbe58DHJZD42bUPXdU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=l9MtH1AkwH3VxrfHAqYrDuaqAqRSsyvGNn5mmuc7yGJbTKbEfS7lLYanGFRX8Xgpi g9nG8DLW/nvs2pU4Cz6DRXxviCguJlNhOazOpN7Ze9BWmdcqYqx6naYNwnDqVhwgbo 5L3x51/lxU+8R3E2gekJF492FADf+4/pqqdxZ9C0= Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 23:55:03 -0700 From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Versions are for endpoints (#3808) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f16914790b4c_19da3fb428acd96c2551df"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 06:55:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f16914790b4c_19da3fb428acd96c2551df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So it seems we have a resolution in #3785. Labelling as such. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3808#issuecomment-661671977 ----==_mimepart_5f16914790b4c_19da3fb428acd96c2551df Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

So it seems we have a resolution in #3785. Labelling as such.

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Please keep discussing, we need to push this to a resolution one way or another.

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Note that the server could fail to validate the client's address even if 0-RTT is accepted. -Since the server could be blocked until more packets are received from the +Since the server could be blocked until more bytes are received from the The trouble with that is, they don't have to be validly formed packets, do they? Just attributable to a single connection, which might well be by address. > For the purposes of avoiding amplification prior to address validation, servers MUST count all of the payload bytes received in datagrams that are uniquely attributed to a single connection. This includes datagrams that contain packets that are successfully processed and datagrams that contain packets that are all discarded. Maybe meet in the middle on "datagrams"? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -587,7 +587,7 @@ received from the client, because packets sent on PTO count against the
 anti-amplification limit. Note that the server could fail to validate the
 client's address even if 0-RTT is accepted.
 
-Since the server could be blocked until more packets are received from the
+Since the server could be blocked until more bytes are received from the

The trouble with that is, they don't have to be validly formed packets, do they? Just attributable to a single connection, which might well be by address.

For the purposes of avoiding amplification prior to address validation, servers MUST count all of the payload bytes received in datagrams that are uniquely attributed to a single connection. This includes datagrams that contain packets that are successfully processed and datagrams that contain packets that are all discarded.

Maybe meet in the middle on "datagrams"?

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[ci skip] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak1YFt3Rz91GfgdPnG9bW4zQWKghtGX1uCNahl 7ItIFoDUpt+WiklaYeAgqfepbDT5kRWavm0U4qttr/NGzJISIsz/XSsonkUqpOvKBR1mhe+pzLrv1I JRwoQwxNWmR8mpA7yLc0qdE04hmB7f1z1DHspdLw7fuT9MYLTVn4BzCBA9QQoqTKS5aDEaZz1OLE/T o= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:16:10 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/gh-pages Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 53caa13b6ee810bc25bb893cd53ad8f7f84141a1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/53caa13b6ee810bc25bb893cd53ad8f7f84141a1 Author: ID Bot Date: 2020-07-21 (Tue, 21 Jul 2020) Changed paths: A http/push_flow/draft-ietf-quic-http.html A http/push_flow/draft-ietf-quic-http.txt A http/push_flow/draft-ietf-quic-invariants.html A http/push_flow/draft-ietf-quic-invariants.txt A http/push_flow/draft-ietf-quic-qpack.html A http/push_flow/draft-ietf-quic-qpack.txt A http/push_flow/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html A http/push_flow/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.txt A http/push_flow/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html A http/push_flow/draft-ietf-quic-tls.txt A http/push_flow/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html A http/push_flow/draft-ietf-quic-transport.txt A http/push_flow/index.html M index.html Log Message: ----------- Script updating gh-pages from 48945112. 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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 21 08:23:06 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6233A0AF7 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 08:23:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I5x9RUYyz-1A for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 08:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C35953A0A93 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 08:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1b8c660.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1b8c660.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE399E186F for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 08:23:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595344982; bh=QGvCtSgMC5HVMcLRZqlXMedKvCoulHXS3BLQgnG94P0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MNou1pacmgpGjBeDarfx32y2R5YDOEfOmHISl0hkLL+9+IbnQn502NJ3rwxKjsXYT o24sIyLcuuD/8PU79Md5dzqHhHGlhaWTnATMGDI9HDqxM6dDe+/F9Md9PBQ2Lhi6TZ JP+pcKqV2KBWegV4bNLOZQj9fxW19lGQ+xtencKg= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 08:23:02 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework flow of Push ID (#3925) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f170856ae276_f1e3fa8410cd9641042f1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:23:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f170856ae276_f1e3fa8410cd9641042f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Push ID text was divided up between the definitions of various frames and sprinkled into the description of Server Push. This rearranges a bit to give a "lifecycle" of a Push ID. I'd really like to have a separate subsection for Push IDs, but they're fundamental enough to knowing how Server Push works in HTTP/3 that I don't feel like I can do that without moving most of the section to more subsections. No normative changes here, just some moved text and a little bit of new prose. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3925 -- Commit Summary -- * Rework flow of Push ID -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (65) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3925.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3925.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3925 ----==_mimepart_5f170856ae276_f1e3fa8410cd9641042f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The Push ID text was divided up between the definitions of various frames and sprinkled into the description of Server Push. This rearranges a bit to give a "lifecycle" of a Push ID. I'd really like to have a separate subsection for Push IDs, but they're fundamental enough to knowing how Server Push works in HTTP/3 that I don't feel like I can do that without moving most of the section to more subsections.

No normative changes here, just some moved text and a little bit of new prose.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3925

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LGTM with minor nits > -same order, and both the name and the value in each field MUST be exact -matches. - -Server push is only enabled on a connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID -frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. A server cannot use server push until it -receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to -control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A server SHOULD use Push -IDs sequentially, starting at 0. A client MUST treat receipt of a push stream -with a Push ID that is greater than the maximum Push ID as a connection error of -type H3_ID_ERROR. +Each server push is identified by a unique Push ID, which is used to refer to +the push in various contexts throughout the lifetime of the connection. + +The Push ID space begins at zero, and ends at a maximum value set by the +MAX_PUSH_ID frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. Server push is only enabled on a +connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional "Server push is only enabled on a connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame." I know this sentence is identical to what it was before, but I have minor issues with it. First, after "a connection" is introduced, I believe it should be "the client" instead of "a client", because "a connection" only has one client. Second, "after" would be more appropriate than "when", because server push is enabled not only at the moment of the client sending the frame, but for the rest of the connection. > - -Server push is only enabled on a connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID -frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. A server cannot use server push until it -receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to -control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A server SHOULD use Push -IDs sequentially, starting at 0. A client MUST treat receipt of a push stream -with a Push ID that is greater than the maximum Push ID as a connection error of -type H3_ID_ERROR. +Each server push is identified by a unique Push ID, which is used to refer to +the push in various contexts throughout the lifetime of the connection. + +The Push ID space begins at zero, and ends at a maximum value set by the +MAX_PUSH_ID frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. Server push is only enabled on a +connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional +MAX_PUSH_ID frames to control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A +server SHOULD use Push IDs sequentially. A client MUST treat receipt of a push It might be beneficial to keep the "starting with 0" phrase at the end of the sentence, because the first sentence of this paragraph does not explicitly prescribe that a server SHOULD start with zero. > -Each server push is identified by a unique Push ID. This Push ID is used in one -or more PUSH_PROMISE frames (see {{frame-push-promise}}) that carry the request -fields, then included with the push stream which ultimately fulfills those -promises. When the same Push ID is promised on multiple request streams, the -decompressed request field sections MUST contain the same fields in the -same order, and both the name and the value in each field MUST be exact -matches. - -Server push is only enabled on a connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID -frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. A server cannot use server push until it -receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to -control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A server SHOULD use Push -IDs sequentially, starting at 0. A client MUST treat receipt of a push stream -with a Push ID that is greater than the maximum Push ID as a connection error of -type H3_ID_ERROR. +Each server push is identified by a unique Push ID, which is used to refer to It might be beneficial to state that it is the server that assigns Push IDs to pushes (even though it is not only that server that can use Push IDs to refer to pushes). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3925#pullrequestreview-452672403 ----==_mimepart_5f172814313df_148b3fc7a2ccd964166589 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@bencebeky requested changes on this pull request.

LGTM with minor nits

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -same order, and both the name and the value in each field MUST be exact
-matches.
-
-Server push is only enabled on a connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID
-frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. A server cannot use server push until it
-receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to
-control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A server SHOULD use Push
-IDs sequentially, starting at 0. A client MUST treat receipt of a push stream
-with a Push ID that is greater than the maximum Push ID as a connection error of
-type H3_ID_ERROR.
+Each server push is identified by a unique Push ID, which is used to refer to
+the push in various contexts throughout the lifetime of the connection.
+
+The Push ID space begins at zero, and ends at a maximum value set by the
+MAX_PUSH_ID frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}.  Server push is only enabled on a
+connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame.  A client sends additional

"Server push is only enabled on a connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame." I know this sentence is identical to what it was before, but I have minor issues with it. First, after "a connection" is introduced, I believe it should be "the client" instead of "a client", because "a connection" only has one client. Second, "after" would be more appropriate than "when", because server push is enabled not only at the moment of the client sending the frame, but for the rest of the connection.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -
-Server push is only enabled on a connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID
-frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. A server cannot use server push until it
-receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to
-control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A server SHOULD use Push
-IDs sequentially, starting at 0. A client MUST treat receipt of a push stream
-with a Push ID that is greater than the maximum Push ID as a connection error of
-type H3_ID_ERROR.
+Each server push is identified by a unique Push ID, which is used to refer to
+the push in various contexts throughout the lifetime of the connection.
+
+The Push ID space begins at zero, and ends at a maximum value set by the
+MAX_PUSH_ID frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}.  Server push is only enabled on a
+connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame.  A client sends additional
+MAX_PUSH_ID frames to control the number of pushes that a server can promise.  A
+server SHOULD use Push IDs sequentially.  A client MUST treat receipt of a push

It might be beneficial to keep the "starting with 0" phrase at the end of the sentence, because the first sentence of this paragraph does not explicitly prescribe that a server SHOULD start with zero.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -Each server push is identified by a unique Push ID. This Push ID is used in one
-or more PUSH_PROMISE frames (see {{frame-push-promise}}) that carry the request
-fields, then included with the push stream which ultimately fulfills those
-promises. When the same Push ID is promised on multiple request streams, the
-decompressed request field sections MUST contain the same fields in the
-same order, and both the name and the value in each field MUST be exact
-matches.
-
-Server push is only enabled on a connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID
-frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. A server cannot use server push until it
-receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to
-control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A server SHOULD use Push
-IDs sequentially, starting at 0. A client MUST treat receipt of a push stream
-with a Push ID that is greater than the maximum Push ID as a connection error of
-type H3_ID_ERROR.
+Each server push is identified by a unique Push ID, which is used to refer to

It might be beneficial to state that it is the server that assigns Push IDs to pushes (even though it is not only that server that can use Push IDs to refer to pushes).

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----==_mimepart_5f172814313df_148b3fc7a2ccd964166589-- From nobody Tue Jul 21 11:34:57 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29FA3A0477 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:34:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7MinNXMfLMDN for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFA353A046D for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F29282D18 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:34:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595356494; bh=aXbjCZZf5adrXJzySr0LKQd1rHiFbO1aStqiZ4vOBbI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=uWVVNQW4e2o823Yqf+fO9fENZ2bnArK4srNJayP2yuCy3UKPzBNAHG7TIvJ3SiSry 60iTDQEoNtRHyshgMD2ry3fG2uW/CaQR8XvOHV1PgcgV1bkbvz4Y5fmVESUossV2y9 E8nkfFmQXN64TBQX94WM5bA2nRw08q78FtrJsqcM= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:34:54 -0700 From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework flow of Push ID (#3925) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f17354ed3abf_6f823fcad8ccd96c155343"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 18:34:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f17354ed3abf_6f823fcad8ccd96c155343 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @LPardue commented on this pull request. > - -Server push is only enabled on a connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID -frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. A server cannot use server push until it -receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to -control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A server SHOULD use Push -IDs sequentially, starting at 0. A client MUST treat receipt of a push stream -with a Push ID that is greater than the maximum Push ID as a connection error of -type H3_ID_ERROR. +Each server push is identified by a unique Push ID, which is used to refer to +the push in various contexts throughout the lifetime of the connection. + +The Push ID space begins at zero, and ends at a maximum value set by the +MAX_PUSH_ID frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. Server push is only enabled on a +connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional +MAX_PUSH_ID frames to control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A +server SHOULD use Push IDs sequentially. A client MUST treat receipt of a push I think both old and new are correct: which means there was a potential bug in the spec. Reasoning: my old reading was `server SHOULD start at 0 && use sequentially` but the new text seems slightly different. If the client and server disagree about how the ID space is used then there is the potential for interoperability problems. If a client thinks the first push ID is 0, then it can make assumptions about its accounting. If a server wants to send the first push ID as non-zero then there is no signal for it to ask for a credit window shift - it's just blocked. This seems to invalidate the statement that push is only enabled when MAX_PUSH_ID is sent. I'm wondering if MUST start at 0 makes sense here, even if that means a separate design issue. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@LPardue commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -
-Server push is only enabled on a connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID
-frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. A server cannot use server push until it
-receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to
-control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A server SHOULD use Push
-IDs sequentially, starting at 0. A client MUST treat receipt of a push stream
-with a Push ID that is greater than the maximum Push ID as a connection error of
-type H3_ID_ERROR.
+Each server push is identified by a unique Push ID, which is used to refer to
+the push in various contexts throughout the lifetime of the connection.
+
+The Push ID space begins at zero, and ends at a maximum value set by the
+MAX_PUSH_ID frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}.  Server push is only enabled on a
+connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame.  A client sends additional
+MAX_PUSH_ID frames to control the number of pushes that a server can promise.  A
+server SHOULD use Push IDs sequentially.  A client MUST treat receipt of a push

I think both old and new are correct: which means there was a potential bug in the spec. Reasoning: my old reading was server SHOULD start at 0 && use sequentially but the new text seems slightly different. If the client and server disagree about how the ID space is used then there is the potential for interoperability problems. If a client thinks the first push ID is 0, then it can make assumptions about its accounting. If a server wants to send the first push ID as non-zero then there is no signal for it to ask for a credit window shift - it's just blocked. This seems to invalidate the statement that push is only enabled when MAX_PUSH_ID is sent.

I'm wondering if MUST start at 0 makes sense here, even if that means a separate design issue.

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@larseggert -- the PR needs some work, but I've only heard agreement on the resolution itself.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +consider the client address to have been validated.  Servers MAY treat the
+receipt of a packet using a server-generated destination connection ID with
+at least 64 bits of entropy as address validation.

Good points, both. I like your sentence better, but I'd propose "Additionally" or "also", as Kazuho proposes.

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@larseggert: FTR, discussion happened on the mailing list here.

My sense is that it's still not clear to some (including me) why the current fix in #3870 (requiring "connections" to be the same) doesn't work, but nobody is arguing strongly against what @martinthomson said above (requiring "connection IDs" to be the same). So that might be the least common denominator.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +consider the client address to have been validated.  Servers MAY treat the
+receipt of a packet using a server-generated destination connection ID with
+at least 64 bits of entropy as address validation.

SG, I tried to update taking into account all your comments/suggestions

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Looks good to me -- thanks! I'll wait for @ianswett to take a look.

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

Thanks, @MikeBishop! Just one comment but LGTM otherwise.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -103,12 +103,12 @@ TCP implementations.
 
 Definitions of terms that are used in this document:
 
-Ack-eliciting Frames:
+Ack-eliciting frames:

I think sentence-case is better.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -587,7 +587,7 @@ received from the client, because packets sent on PTO count against the
 anti-amplification limit. Note that the server could fail to validate the
 client's address even if 0-RTT is accepted.
 
-Since the server could be blocked until more packets are received from the
+Since the server could be blocked until more bytes are received from the

I like datagrams here -- that is the same language in the transport draft.

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Fixes #3895

I still don't feel like this flows quite right, so suggestions appreciated.

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----==_mimepart_5f17411aa1fc8_2a833f9e102cd95c21962e-- From nobody Tue Jul 21 12:40:49 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A813A0888 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 12:40:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3MHn3OL_u-xZ for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 12:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0257A3A0886 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 12:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEA8521E61 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 12:40:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595360445; bh=A9fTLETjIKT8Ki5lidFILTHuW41dlpTPWb1ySF2PPpU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zYrV4leWQHhkc+q9++RB3q5B1lCUIqZyGzmezx7yzceFSH9GwxqNatO1+Et5rDtNl WFHgSkhgEAW2Cjny6TBwqW6n+GdnvGHm1v76c7HL4D875XirJ6zxFdfdDdizLlJULL zv3/scikoT/IgMLER8d47T7QZEDrkMHkecd/WhWE= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 12:40:45 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove amplification throttle if the server receives Initial that echoes its high entropy SCID. (#3834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1744bd3d5f6_75a93fa1ca0cd964181790"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:40:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1744bd3d5f6_75a93fa1ca0cd964181790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @larseggert : I think this is `proposal-ready` as well. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3834#issuecomment-662067290 ----==_mimepart_5f1744bd3d5f6_75a93fa1ca0cd964181790 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Would it safer to reset min_rtt after persistent congestion is declared. This is important so we can adapt to a consistent spike in RTT as a result of a path change. ``` Splitting this off from #3919 as a potential design issue. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3927 ----==_mimepart_5f174ef1e026d_31093fab256cd968978df Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@pravb wrote the following in his WGLC review (#3919):

Section 5.2 "If the path's actual RTT increases, the min_rtt will not adapt to it, allowing future RTT samples that are smaller than the new RTT be included in smoothed_rtt."

Would it safer to reset min_rtt after persistent congestion is declared. This is important so we can adapt to a consistent spike in RTT as a result of a path change.

Splitting this off from #3919 as a potential design issue.

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This seems like a reasonable thing to do.

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Closes #3919.

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The rest are addressed below. - We don't have a recommended value for Idle timeout, but it the [transport spec](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-10.1) states the following: ``` To avoid excessively small idle timeout periods, endpoints MUST increase the idle timeout period to be at least three times the current Probe Timeout (PTO). ``` That said, the peer's `max_idle_timeout` is known to both sides. If you find that the peer's timeout is too short for your purposes, you can keep the connection alive through PINGs. - On faster acknowledgement when PTO: yes, sending two packets works just fine. Skipping packet numbers is not something you need to do -- so the additional complexity concern is only for those who want to go do it -- it's just something that an implementation can do to get an immediate ack anytime in the connection. - On PTOs and persistent congestion, there's text at the top of the section that calls this out explicitly: ``` Commonly, this can be established by consecutive PTOs, but since the PTO timer is reset when a new ack-eliciting packet is sent, an explicit duration must be used to account for those cases where PTOs do not occur or are substantially delayed. ``` Nevertheless, I've added a sentence at the end of the example description. - AreAllPacketsLost is in #3288. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I've addressed the editorial bits in #3928. The rest are addressed below.

  • We don't have a recommended value for Idle timeout, but it the transport spec states the following:
To avoid excessively small idle timeout periods, endpoints MUST increase the
idle timeout period to be at least three times the current Probe Timeout (PTO).

That said, the peer's max_idle_timeout is known to both sides. If you find that the peer's timeout is too short for your purposes, you can keep the connection alive through PINGs.

  • On faster acknowledgement when PTO: yes, sending two packets works just fine. Skipping packet numbers is not something you need to do -- so the additional complexity concern is only for those who want to go do it -- it's just something that an implementation can do to get an immediate ack anytime in the connection.

  • On PTOs and persistent congestion, there's text at the top of the section that calls this out explicitly:

Commonly, this can be established by consecutive PTOs, but since the PTO timer
is reset when a new ack-eliciting packet is sent, an explicit duration must be used
to account for those cases where PTOs do not occur or are substantially delayed.

Nevertheless, I've added a sentence at the end of the example description.

  • AreAllPacketsLost is in #3288.

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A server cannot use server push until it -receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to -control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A server SHOULD use Push -IDs sequentially, starting at 0. A client MUST treat receipt of a push stream -with a Push ID that is greater than the maximum Push ID as a connection error of -type H3_ID_ERROR. +Each server push is identified by a unique Push ID, which is used to refer to +the push in various contexts throughout the lifetime of the connection. + +The Push ID space begins at zero, and ends at a maximum value set by the +MAX_PUSH_ID frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. Server push is only enabled on a +connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional +MAX_PUSH_ID frames to control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A +server SHOULD use Push IDs sequentially. A client MUST treat receipt of a push I agree that this would be an interoperability issue. However, I think SHOULD is just fine here. In my mind MUST is something that the peer should be able to enforce, and since streams can arrive out of order, in this case the client cannot detect if the server starts push IDs from a positive integer or if the promise with push ID 0 is delayed. I think the statement that push is only enabled when MAX_PUSH_ID is sent is still valid. If no MAX_PUSH_ID is sent, push is not enabled. If a MAX_PUSH_ID is sent by the client with any value, server push is technically enabled, even if a server that insists on starting push IDs from a larger integer would be not willing to push. Am I misunderstanding your statement? That being said, this sentence might flow better if rephrased as "In particular, a server is not allowed to push until it receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame.". -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -
-Server push is only enabled on a connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID
-frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. A server cannot use server push until it
-receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to
-control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A server SHOULD use Push
-IDs sequentially, starting at 0. A client MUST treat receipt of a push stream
-with a Push ID that is greater than the maximum Push ID as a connection error of
-type H3_ID_ERROR.
+Each server push is identified by a unique Push ID, which is used to refer to
+the push in various contexts throughout the lifetime of the connection.
+
+The Push ID space begins at zero, and ends at a maximum value set by the
+MAX_PUSH_ID frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}.  Server push is only enabled on a
+connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame.  A client sends additional
+MAX_PUSH_ID frames to control the number of pushes that a server can promise.  A
+server SHOULD use Push IDs sequentially.  A client MUST treat receipt of a push

I agree that this would be an interoperability issue. However, I think SHOULD is just fine here. In my mind MUST is something that the peer should be able to enforce, and since streams can arrive out of order, in this case the client cannot detect if the server starts push IDs from a positive integer or if the promise with push ID 0 is delayed.

I think the statement that push is only enabled when MAX_PUSH_ID is sent is still valid. If no MAX_PUSH_ID is sent, push is not enabled. If a MAX_PUSH_ID is sent by the client with any value, server push is technically enabled, even if a server that insists on starting push IDs from a larger integer would be not willing to push. Am I misunderstanding your statement?

That being said, this sentence might flow better if rephrased as "In particular, a server is not allowed to push until it receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame.".

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----==_mimepart_5f1751934c645_5ad53f9493ecd968538d3-- From nobody Tue Jul 21 13:53:44 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1233A0A6C for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 13:53:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.697 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.697 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I7SikaUpBLPz for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 13:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2946F3A0A6A for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 13:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f144ac1.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799026E0DAF for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 13:53:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595364821; bh=Am3lSMidJAMfI9DD4iDgKgT4wBTIItzLKuQ0srpVwAg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wq+BATdduk+viqbsabEIWexCMflMG7KNFTPVVEK7//xqmgLGzih7s/T00KjXugmJl wd9XSQG9kfiRwtyz5JZVJvvBtvHH8kP8viaaCQoZtGAtY86xI253XyW+idVAJp7mWJ kFkP6JfexTlvz/4RXsmaYTNZBMD6Z5wLC7N0jI4Q= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 13:53:41 -0700 From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework flow of Push ID (#3925) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1755d56af63_12803fe07c4cd960183390"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 20:53:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1755d56af63_12803fe07c4cd960183390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @LPardue commented on this pull request. > - -Server push is only enabled on a connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID -frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. A server cannot use server push until it -receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to -control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A server SHOULD use Push -IDs sequentially, starting at 0. A client MUST treat receipt of a push stream -with a Push ID that is greater than the maximum Push ID as a connection error of -type H3_ID_ERROR. +Each server push is identified by a unique Push ID, which is used to refer to +the push in various contexts throughout the lifetime of the connection. + +The Push ID space begins at zero, and ends at a maximum value set by the +MAX_PUSH_ID frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. Server push is only enabled on a +connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional +MAX_PUSH_ID frames to control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A +server SHOULD use Push IDs sequentially. A client MUST treat receipt of a push Good point about detecting difficulties -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3925#discussion_r458380946 ----==_mimepart_5f1755d56af63_12803fe07c4cd960183390 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -
-Server push is only enabled on a connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID
-frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. A server cannot use server push until it
-receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to
-control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A server SHOULD use Push
-IDs sequentially, starting at 0. A client MUST treat receipt of a push stream
-with a Push ID that is greater than the maximum Push ID as a connection error of
-type H3_ID_ERROR.
+Each server push is identified by a unique Push ID, which is used to refer to
+the push in various contexts throughout the lifetime of the connection.
+
+The Push ID space begins at zero, and ends at a maximum value set by the
+MAX_PUSH_ID frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}.  Server push is only enabled on a
+connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame.  A client sends additional
+MAX_PUSH_ID frames to control the number of pushes that a server can promise.  A
+server SHOULD use Push IDs sequentially.  A client MUST treat receipt of a push

Good point about detecting difficulties

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I'd support a can or a MAY, as an example when you might reset min_rtt, but I don't think we need a SHOULD here.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -587,7 +587,7 @@ received from the client, because packets sent on PTO count against the
 anti-amplification limit. Note that the server could fail to validate the
 client's address even if 0-RTT is accepted.
 
-Since the server could be blocked until more packets are received from the
+Since the server could be blocked until more bytes are received from the

Good point, datagrams is the correct answer I believe.

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Closes #3923. Also addresses @pravb's comment in #3919. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3929 -- Commit Summary -- * Better example of persistent congestion * use PTO -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (54) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3929.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3929.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3929 ----==_mimepart_5f175a4be187_35003fab68ccd960398743 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Makes the period computation a bit clearer.

Closes #3923.
Also addresses @pravb's comment in #3919.

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  • Better example of persistent congestion
  • use PTO

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@janaiyengar a state transition diagram would be very nice I think, similar to streams. And maybe some reorg, but I need to re-read the relevant sections at once to understand how that could work.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1581,6 +1588,10 @@ Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
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    InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):

Agreed, it needs to be across PN spaces. Done.

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PTO = 1.5 is odd, and this is hardly simpler, but it is good.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -867,7 +867,9 @@ between the oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3.  The duration for
 persistent congestion is equal to: (1 * kPersistentCongestionThreshold) = 3.
 Because the threshold was reached and because none of the packets between the
 oldest and the newest packets are acknowledged, the network is considered to
-have experienced persistent congestion.
+have experienced persistent congestion. Note that this example shows the
+occurrence of PTOs, but that is not required for persistent congestion to be
+established.

Won't this conflict with the other change?

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Closes #3800.
Closes #3870.

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  • Require coalesced packets to have the same connection ID

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@LPardue commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +Push stream data can also arrive after a client has canceled a push. In this
+case, the client can abort reading the stream with an error code of

Did we lose the SHOULD send a CANCEL_PUSH? Does that matter?

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In this +case, the client can abort reading the stream with an error code of It moved up to 827, though I demoted it from a SHOULD to a statement about how the frame is used. If someone cares about the difference, I can re-RECOMMEND it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3925#discussion_r458426785 ----==_mimepart_5f176cdf2f852_3d883fe75c4cd9601049cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +Push stream data can also arrive after a client has canceled a push. In this
+case, the client can abort reading the stream with an error code of

It moved up to 827, though I demoted it from a SHOULD to a statement about how the frame is used. If someone cares about the difference, I can re-RECOMMEND it.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +Push stream data can also arrive after a client has canceled a push. In this
+case, the client can abort reading the stream with an error code of

I'm indifferent

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  • Loss detection is per-PN space, but RTT and CC aren't

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----==_mimepart_5f176f7277ee5_24353f9de3ecd9641913df-- From nobody Tue Jul 21 15:43:07 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAE23A03F2 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:43:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hi7qUnyFHQxV for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 859F63A03EE for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-bb778fb.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-bb778fb.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.102.56]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17247261878 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:43:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595371381; bh=qduskNlUs8AkwDVLgcSCw1z9QKmX9Pbo12x0Plr0/6Q=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pyGIHvvZUqekJ59eAT0szf+A1mfUrhN/7HMz43zdj4H/xJoMdlKHwcyHUDfkno293 SqgtdVlugZTl0oYv7P+YR2bOie8/yU2wZBeXZrjolilyb00n8IKxFyDxp9mFjG07Bk fNgGJlfYqol8/pHOgs3wkd12XZXpeuSDMzvZMSnE= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:43:00 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove API requirement for resource allocation (#3838) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f176f74c6676_421d3feed46cd95c690d8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 22:43:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f176f74c6676_421d3feed46cd95c690d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After discussing with editors, we think that it would be better to remove the MUST in this section and say something like: "A general purpose QUIC implementation provides the following functions:" and add "A specialized implementation might provide a subset of these." The same applies to the stream operations. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3838#issuecomment-662143911 ----==_mimepart_5f176f74c6676_421d3feed46cd95c690d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

After discussing with editors, we think that it would be better to remove the MUST in this section and say something like: "A general purpose QUIC implementation provides the following functions:" and add "A specialized implementation might provide a subset of these."

The same applies to the stream operations.

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----==_mimepart_5f176f74c6676_421d3feed46cd95c690d8-- From nobody Tue Jul 21 16:12:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D231A3A07B3 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:12:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4BF0P4k4p-C9 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4B1E3A07AC for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.20]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE4FE003E for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:11:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595373118; bh=31Ts36VknuqJeNaVt/CiAzM56fI5MgiyI7Qyn50XPss=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=sDQ3mr3m62eS90PCSPeNyW53gZYt3I/LBtp4p4KuU7g2uDxhnsfJFcf8YTFYprNhJ o/+68dt0LYiCbDEAGFIu0Iadr586Gx+hQaZ3zd7tAyA7NZ2/Sy2rxgpb8CvMVQaLll v/+l3r9DPKimIgaqvbBTzjJjT1VUsW9a8ty2a+og= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:11:58 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Servers are not expected to validate multiple paths simultaneously (#3932) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f17763e4cbb3_3d743fe75c4cd960253819"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 23:12:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f17763e4cbb3_3d743fe75c4cd960253819 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe this is already implied, but I couldn't find it stated anywhere. I think it'd be ideal to set expectations that servers are not expected to validate multiple paths at the same time. Validating multiple paths seems like a plausible feature for multipath, but adds undue complexity for connection migration. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3932 ----==_mimepart_5f17763e4cbb3_3d743fe75c4cd960253819 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I believe this is already implied, but I couldn't find it stated anywhere. I think it'd be ideal to set expectations that servers are not expected to validate multiple paths at the same time.

Validating multiple paths seems like a plausible feature for multipath, but adds undue complexity for connection migration.

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In Section 6.2.3, we recommend the following about the reserved unidirectional stream types:

When terminating abruptly, the error code H3_NO_ERROR or a reserved error code (Section 8.1) SHOULD be used.

However, this has a fatal flaw -- it recommends special handling for the grease types, which is precisely the behavior we're trying to disincent with grease.

Instead, I think we should move the recommendation to use reserved error codes to the guidance on what to do with unknown stream types, which is currently:

Recipients of unknown stream types MAY abort reading of the stream with an error code of H3_STREAM_CREATION_ERROR, but MUST NOT consider such streams to be a connection error of any kind.

This has the same net effect on the grease streams. The change in behavior is on actual unknown-but-real stream types, which will now get grease error codes in response.

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -867,7 +867,9 @@ between the oldest and newest lost packets: (3 - 0) = 3.  The duration for
 persistent congestion is equal to: (1 * kPersistentCongestionThreshold) = 3.
 Because the threshold was reached and because none of the packets between the
 oldest and the newest packets are acknowledged, the network is considered to
-have experienced persistent congestion.
+have experienced persistent congestion. Note that this example shows the
+occurrence of PTOs, but that is not required for persistent congestion to be
+established.

Yup, I'll prefer that text when merging.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 21 16:20:47 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491553A07D0 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:20:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=2.059, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ngPRBJ9TwVqm for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4478E3A07CE for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-bb778fb.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-bb778fb.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.102.56]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E4D66125D for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:20:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595373644; bh=Yrmuz0Xb1KdJqpllx04U5a89Qj3D53d3wHFdu+jCUlw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=scZm+XxqMVAaMvj9lEJS0QobZ0kbgcf/dV8fehUV5q2Rcf2ooeitgXF08ekJ4965T m1UsyEQpfnGLEiLFhP1LVE+YtMTv0L5vBfxxATdUEkrOk9Jm5r1TpkhWlMTS9OqQF8 U3nx8ugYkAQ5SjHzTmAzYQE9Acb9JjVhxW2ZMvd8= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:20:44 -0700 From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Recommended behavior for reserved streams (#3933) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f17784c7471c_4e143fb5f6acd960388f0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 23:20:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f17784c7471c_4e143fb5f6acd960388f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +1 lets do this (as an individual) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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+1 lets do this (as an individual)

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Actually, scratch that -- it's a misreading. This is a statement about how the sender of the stream should close them, not about behavior on receipt at all. I'll take this as editorial to emphasize that this is purely about how to send them.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I totally misread this passage, so let's make it more emphatic which side of the stream we're talking about. Fixes #3933. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3934 -- Commit Summary -- * Emphasize still talking about sending -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (9) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3934.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3934.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3934 ----==_mimepart_5f17796da29a6_5293fa5f66cd960125245 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I totally misread this passage, so let's make it more emphatic which side of the stream we're talking about. Fixes #3933.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 21 16:27:49 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F3B3A0800 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:27:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KT-_l7o2sbRV for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A290F3A086D for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.25.48]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E08520B13 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:27:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595374066; bh=7VayQHv5svVVGKtIZ27hSIiqS0wANM0us1TeB247Onk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=rFNIYuipW/LmX3+/3Uo5HpcDXI1ReTTcC9u+PuOo9gkQtiLlQ8yU4C2iunxL7nVqi MI5cJZBIiitFemfPPa3SA0Qtb4KxgRNq63E8R7rn4Zux+tuKAH5bMVXqgkFDKB+Jvf Hmtw8+Lto49KJzBcvYY4Qnle9zMFNSl6xuA/2ktk= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:27:45 -0700 From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove API requirement for resource allocation (#3838) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1779f1e4913_4a373fd2a28cd96c6639e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 23:27:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1779f1e4913_4a373fd2a28cd96c6639e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that is a positive change. Borderline design by the sound of it. It would be good to see the PR once its available. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3838#issuecomment-662157199 ----==_mimepart_5f1779f1e4913_4a373fd2a28cd96c6639e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think that is a positive change. Borderline design by the sound of it. It would be good to see the PR once its available.

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----==_mimepart_5f177a24a9a5e_7f253fe0326cd96c6734a-- From nobody Tue Jul 21 16:34:30 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FA53A080A for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:34:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hdn7j7cAhzUk for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CFFE3A0809 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.61]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822E2A0061 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:34:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595374466; bh=bfs0XbmJJ2RWzwvC6wFZcTF6oz7ug/hAgE4BrVz06o8=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=BN6cWb0B1n4h+fHh/gKYJK5iLbxSm+i4L18P0wYc0vveNERzyUaLoe7JX8/9sJP6f /wz0jkNwB03qWzTcOiAr4rH39C0BHyuaqU5SBdcdWlMm7TnkvupbLLY91PZM1OmkGO +u6xytDRWn9M0mj7m3L9n1RpXcADdXGlxE8yzl3s= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:34:26 -0700 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 8a1cc1: No normative language for connection/stream operat... 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What is necessary from these sections is defining operations in QUIC that application protocols can depend on being present. Levying the requirement on implementations was incorrect. As some application protocols don't use certain QUIC features, it is not necessary to require implementations to support features if they are not general purpose. This rephrases these requirements without normative language, instead concentrating on what services the application protocol can depend on. This translates into requirements on implementations, but only via the application protocols they intend to support. Closes #3838. From nobody Tue Jul 21 16:34:57 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2ED53A080A for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:34:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2OI5iMmTKgoG for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61E363A080E for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a6a2749.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a6a2749.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.62]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B59261857 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:34:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595374495; bh=M87f2VGU1G7BRRNRkC5mmFJbWILAjBB2T9ak2JAdGWE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ehmP7Hnh41t12PW9V1SPh9G4QVeVZf3EQgAA4vvgAYgreMVlpVpbfS+DaTIXpHY/I 2On5EMK21lwIEYqftTV8EuKK6XVNXYV8IsL71HQ6OpFV3wqFlSJNMi8ndHajvlPp2/ BfHV2euR0lsC6JpdpP439BxIcSJGcRejAjc5GXyA= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:34:54 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] No normative language for connection/stream operations (#3935) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f177b9ec1e00_1e3d3fd73a0cd96496766"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 23:34:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f177b9ec1e00_1e3d3fd73a0cd96496766 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The strong requirements here were wrong. What is necessary from these sections is defining operations in QUIC that application protocols can depend on being present. Levying the requirement on implementations was incorrect. As some application protocols don't use certain QUIC features, it is not necessary to require implementations to support features if they are not general purpose. This rephrases these requirements without normative language, instead concentrating on what services the application protocol can depend on. This translates into requirements on implementations, but only via the application protocols they intend to support. Closes #3838. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3935 -- Commit Summary -- * No normative language for connection/stream operations -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (43) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3935.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3935.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3935 ----==_mimepart_5f177b9ec1e00_1e3d3fd73a0cd96496766 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The strong requirements here were wrong. What is necessary from these
sections is defining operations in QUIC that application protocols can
depend on being present.

Levying the requirement on implementations was incorrect. As some
application protocols don't use certain QUIC features, it is not
necessary to require implementations to support features if they are not
general purpose.

This rephrases these requirements without normative language, instead
concentrating on what services the application protocol can depend on.
This translates into requirements on implementations, but only via the
application protocols they intend to support.

Closes #3838.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3935

Commit Summary

  • No normative language for connection/stream operations

File Changes

Patch Links:

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 21 16:40:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E809B3A0818 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:40:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LKkxg596-NJJ for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 293D63A0816 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cf59896.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cf59896.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.112.26]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847898C0C4F for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:39:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595374798; bh=PKWzBfBeQ19b9aeZ2ROELjAwP0gZVxkrZPEj95dq4ro=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=T4kWDsgoWi29/F336Q8GoEmWm/HrYec92PHywWJB9ehCnvH3RV1wWS0ylWiO/3PgN 9+eDa7vpcaiUoOUaUbkn1Kk9MgnOvnFnTVwDsOlWSWI5mS234HpSA/zzgWCMqm6BX9 1ZHDZlAKwXgt4PwlKLPAYxWX0QH132m+1vDXmbnw= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:39:58 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] sender SHOULD limit bursts (#3936) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f177cce745a7_70ea3fb6bbacd96818582"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 23:40:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f177cce745a7_70ea3fb6bbacd96818582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closes #3892. Also does a bit of cleanup. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3936 -- Commit Summary -- * sender SHOULD limit bursts -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (15) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3936.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3936.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3936 ----==_mimepart_5f177cce745a7_70ea3fb6bbacd96818582 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Closes #3892.
Also does a bit of cleanup.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3936

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  • sender SHOULD limit bursts

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Based on the discussion on the mailing list, I'm proposing that we change the MUST to a SHOULD. See #3936.

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I like this! Just a couple of nits, but LGTM. > -There are certain operations that an application MUST be able to perform when -interacting with QUIC streams. This document does not specify an API, but -any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform -the operations described in this section on a QUIC stream. +This document does not define an API for QUIC, but instead defines a set of +functions on streams that application protocols can rely upon. An application +protocol can assume that an implementation of QUIC provides an interface that ```suggestion protocol can assume that a general-purpose implementation of QUIC provides an interface that ``` > -There are certain operations that an application MUST be able to perform when -interacting with QUIC streams. This document does not specify an API, but -any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform -the operations described in this section on a QUIC stream. +This document does not define an API for QUIC, but instead defines a set of +functions on streams that application protocols can rely upon. An application +protocol can assume that an implementation of QUIC provides an interface that +includes the operations described in this section. An implementation designed +for use with a specific application protocol might provide those operations that ```suggestion for use with a specific application protocol might provide only those operations that ``` > -There are certain operations that an application MUST be able to perform when -interacting with the QUIC transport. This document does not specify an API, but -any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform -the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection. +This document does not define an API for QUIC, but instead defines a set of +functions for QUIC connections that application protocols can rely upon. An +application protocol can assume that an implementation of QUIC provides an ```suggestion application protocol can assume that a general-purpose implementation of QUIC provides an ``` > -There are certain operations that an application MUST be able to perform when -interacting with the QUIC transport. This document does not specify an API, but -any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform -the operations described in this section on a QUIC connection. +This document does not define an API for QUIC, but instead defines a set of +functions for QUIC connections that application protocols can rely upon. An +application protocol can assume that an implementation of QUIC provides an +interface that includes the operations described in this section. An +implementation designed for use with a specific application protocol might +provide those operations that are used by that protocol. ```suggestion provide only those operations that are used by that protocol. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3935#pullrequestreview-452901640 ----==_mimepart_5f177e17f0f00_46523fa53f4cd960374ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I like this! Just a couple of nits, but LGTM.

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There's one important thing we're missing here, which is if the CWND > IW, then it can be particularly critical to pace when sending the first flight after quiescence. Given we're not requiring slow start after idle, I think we need to provide some limits after idle. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3936#pullrequestreview-452920492 ----==_mimepart_5f178b3a281dd_78453fd5602cd95c99748 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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There's one important thing we're missing here, which is if the CWND > IW, then it can be particularly critical to pace when sending the first flight after quiescence. Given we're not requiring slow start after idle, I think we need to provide some limits after idle.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +initial congestion window; see {{initial-cwnd}}. A sender might have prior
+knowledge that the network path to the receiver has deep buffers, and might
+therefore allow larger bursts.

Yes, it's certainly design.

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@pravb commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +| t=3   | Send packet #4 (app data)  |
+| t=4   | Send packet #5 (app data)  |
+| t=5   | Send packet #6 (app data)  |
+| t=6.5 | Send packet #7 (PTO 1)     |
+| t=9.5 | Send packet #8 (PTO 2)     |
+| t=9.7 | Recv acknowledgement of #8 |
+
+Packets 2 through 7 are declared lost when the acknowledgement for packet 8 is
+received at t = 9.7.
+
+The congestion period is calculated as the time between the oldest and newest
+lost packets: 6.5 - 1 = 5.5.  The duration for establishing persistent
+congestion is: 1.5 * 3 = 4.5.  Because the threshold was reached and because
+none of the packets between the oldest and the newest lost packets were
+acknowledged, the network is considered to have experienced persistent
+congestion.

I think we should still add a line here about PTO not being necessary for establishing persistent congestion since the example still uses PTO.

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +| t=3   | Send packet #4 (app data)  |
+| t=4   | Send packet #5 (app data)  |
+| t=5   | Send packet #6 (app data)  |
+| t=6.5 | Send packet #7 (PTO 1)     |
+| t=9.5 | Send packet #8 (PTO 2)     |
+| t=9.7 | Recv acknowledgement of #8 |
+
+Packets 2 through 7 are declared lost when the acknowledgement for packet 8 is
+received at t = 9.7.
+
+The congestion period is calculated as the time between the oldest and newest
+lost packets: 6.5 - 1 = 5.5.  The duration for establishing persistent
+congestion is: 1.5 * 3 = 4.5.  Because the threshold was reached and because
+none of the packets between the oldest and the newest lost packets were
+acknowledged, the network is considered to have experienced persistent
+congestion.

There is a change in Jana's other PR.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-There are certain operations that an application MUST be able to perform when
-interacting with QUIC streams.  This document does not specify an API, but
-any implementation of this version of QUIC MUST expose the ability to perform
-the operations described in this section on a QUIC stream.
+This document does not define an API for QUIC, but instead defines a set of
+functions on streams that application protocols can rely upon.  An application
+protocol can assume that an implementation of QUIC provides an interface that

I decided not to do this explicitly. I think that it is important that application protocols are able to assume these features are present.

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min_rtt is currently only used for filtering unexpectedly large ack_delay's reported by the peer. If the path RTT truly inflates then the peer will be able to report much larger ack_delay values and get a much lower RTT sample accepted. But I don't think this is a security problem in practice. The only other consideration is that in future QUIC implementations may reuse this computed value for other purposes like delay based congestion control. It's hard to make a judgement call on how important it is to reset min_rtt. I guess I'd be happy with a SHOULD but I can live with a MAY.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1581,6 +1588,10 @@ Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
    InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):

I disagree. While strictly speaking this change is not wrong, it makes things more complex than necessary: An ACK can only ever establish loss in its own packet number space, never across packet number spaces. So it's totally fine to pass lost_packets to InPersistentCongestion.

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----==_mimepart_5f1790f346c0b_678a3fe2ceccd968225076-- From nobody Tue Jul 21 18:09:21 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C98A3A0778 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 18:09:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v4_H6RezWJQV for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 18:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30F783A0774 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 18:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1b8c660.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1b8c660.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FD68C04D6 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 18:09:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595380158; bh=MP95TSweu+I+7WfwRrCfsR6AQISDjWvflwjJr77sMTA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LOioxiu/F8iOogmr9yq4P2vbMYLcdu8X9lEIH6q53Nj5hI6f4ljtlQaIFsLJHqBer N1RbmkRdnp7/7TqWl5NQrrEzrT87pe+RtxC/nfy/flRFXeNZM4mpEac9vDUtAZkdlY zA8/7FK0z38h1aaDL3yQSA6O7fm+pRsX9u6vpShM= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 18:09:18 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reset min_rtt on persistent congestion (#3927) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1791be7288b_68f3f91f62cd9641356a2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 01:09:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1791be7288b_68f3f91f62cd9641356a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jana made a good argument that persistent congestion could be declared due to an overly small RTT, so resetting min_rtt could avoid an endpoint repeatedly declaring persistent congestion. That being said, the RTT samples also need to be too low to spuriously declare persistent congestion, so this is increasingly sounding like an attack scenario, rather than having a poor estimate of min_rtt. I think a SHOULD is Ok now, but I'd like to state the best rationale we have for why it's a SHOULD and neither a MUST or a MAY. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3927#issuecomment-662184049 ----==_mimepart_5f1791be7288b_68f3f91f62cd9641356a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Jana made a good argument that persistent congestion could be declared due to an overly small RTT, so resetting min_rtt could avoid an endpoint repeatedly declaring persistent congestion. That being said, the RTT samples also need to be too low to spuriously declare persistent congestion, so this is increasingly sounding like an attack scenario, rather than having a poor estimate of min_rtt.

I think a SHOULD is Ok now, but I'd like to state the best rationale we have for why it's a SHOULD and neither a MUST or a MAY.

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@ianswett : Can you provide some text? Also, shall we make this part of the consensus call?

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Looks like there is some confusion on Slack about the case where disjoint sets of packets are lost. Do we need two examples rather than one?

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A sender sends a tail of 10 packets, packet number 1 to 10. It now receives an acknowledgement for packets 5 and 10, which establishes the loss of all other packets.

It's not clear how to perform the check for persistent congestion now. Several options come to mind:

  1. check if the period between 6 and 9 is longer than 3*PTO
  2. check if either the period between packet 1 and 4 or the period between packet 6 and 9 is longer than 3*PTO
  3. The ACK doesn't establish loss of all tail packets, so there's no persistent congestion.

In an offline discussion, both @mjoras and @goelvidhi expressed preferences for different options here. I'm not sure what the right thing to do is here, but at least the draft should be clearer on what exactly establishes persistent congestion and what doesn't.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1580,14 +1586,18 @@ Invoked when an ACK frame with an ECN section is received from the peer.
 Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
-   InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):
+   InPersistentCongestion(largest_lost):
+     // Persistent congestion cannot be declared on the
+     // first RTT sample.
+     if (is first RTT sample):
+       return false

I'm not sure if that's correct. What matters is that the packet you use for the start of the persistent congestion period was sent after you already had an RTT sample.

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Does that imply that a client can only probe a single path at a time? What's the time it has to wait after apparent unsuccessful probing of one path until it can probe the next?

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----==_mimepart_5f17a05ab6655_5153fa7c96cd968346332-- From nobody Tue Jul 21 19:34:57 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495F13A0978 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:34:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pa_55Gj6ru5A for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 291413A0977 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1ac52d7.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1ac52d7.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.25.52]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A40E8C0448 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:34:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595385293; bh=gVmPznKGEYHYgt0K2RDpUrdew3OPKeQ5QTiHLuWD6Ls=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YyKWRoiz8nRfL4Gm5zdd7PFm8Nh1wK+hXthCjYL712MKvd0lFxGRess4rF1lryT+2 5ylp+YHjsBuY/UmxSKilvOYnSHmYQsRAxD/8h/ljbJMSZe/T5isKoWswS8j8fxYT49 KubbX8bnMDMUvf8jyd23eMwFS86/ZHPz5VZQuZD8= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:34:53 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Servers are not expected to validate multiple paths simultaneously (#3932) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f17a5cd3b486_282d3ffba5ecd96c51652"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 02:34:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f17a5cd3b486_282d3ffba5ecd96c51652 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett I'm not sure if I agree. It has been my assumption that a server is expected to respond to clients probing multiple paths concurrently. Note that in #3557, we added the following text: > An endpoint MAY also limit the issuance of connection IDs to reduce the amount of per-path state it maintains, such as path validation status, as its peer might interact with it over as many paths as there are issued connection IDs. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3932#issuecomment-662206628 ----==_mimepart_5f17a5cd3b486_282d3ffba5ecd96c51652 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett I'm not sure if I agree. It has been my assumption that a server is expected to respond to clients probing multiple paths concurrently.

Note that in #3557, we added the following text:

An endpoint MAY also limit the issuance of connection IDs to reduce the amount of per-path state it maintains, such as path validation status, as its peer might interact with it over as many paths as there are issued connection IDs.

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----==_mimepart_5f17a5cd3b486_282d3ffba5ecd96c51652-- From nobody Tue Jul 21 19:35:01 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93873A097A for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:34:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HmyxH4VKU5zh for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3173C3A0977 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1121F6E026C for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:34:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595385296; bh=9zWTas8xvqVO72go53Ugvmifs6ucnyJrxlIg9MkaJic=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HQvop5dIsm1rGPItR6SRFB5O0NeFREk6KdgztyN61ccVUMXZJKgiomk68Ib7yCwUp nOUhEsH/3ENfh8BG+aed4A1jYFOxhEq0foPBDPsyHV50u9WvWjd6RBuIuOoVaMqU5E e4Afy4zklHfsdQXDHbcWttSvDCckOW30eGieRPMo= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:34:56 -0700 From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Servers are not expected to validate multiple paths simultaneously (#3932) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f17a5d017c5_5ef63fcf864cd96c313e4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 02:34:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f17a5d017c5_5ef63fcf864cd96c313e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmm, I didn't think this was already implied. You're not expected (or allowed) to send non-probing packets on multiple paths, but you can certainly get probes in from multiple different remote endpoints. This is somewhat necessary if we're to be resilient to the various packet racing attacks -- if an attacker can cause you to be upset about a packet coming in from a different destination then they can really mess you up. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3932#issuecomment-662206640 ----==_mimepart_5f17a5d017c5_5ef63fcf864cd96c313e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hmm, I didn't think this was already implied. You're not expected (or allowed) to send non-probing packets on multiple paths, but you can certainly get probes in from multiple different remote endpoints. This is somewhat necessary if we're to be resilient to the various packet racing attacks -- if an attacker can cause you to be upset about a packet coming in from a different destination then they can really mess you up.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1581,6 +1588,10 @@ Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
    InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):

My point is that passing loss_packets in the pseudo-code gives the readers false impression that persistent congestion is something to be observed per-PN-space.

An endpoint can pass arguments whatever necessary (or beneficial), but that does not mean that those arguments should appear in pseudo-code.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1581,6 +1588,10 @@ Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
    InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):

The comment now says:

Determine if all packets in the time period before the largest newly lost packet, including the edges and across all packet number spaces, are marked lost.

My point is that this is unnecessarily complicated, as only packets within a single packet number space, namely the packet number space the ACK was received in, can be newly lost.

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@pravb This confusion now has its own issue: #3937.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1580,14 +1586,18 @@ Invoked when an ACK frame with an ECN section is received from the peer.
 Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
-   InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):
+   InPersistentCongestion(largest_lost):
+     // Persistent congestion cannot be declared on the
+     // first RTT sample.
+     if (is first RTT sample):
+       return false

I agree with @marten-seemann here.

Consider the case where an endpoint receives the first ACK 10 seconds after sending the first packet (with an RTT of 10ms), then receives the next ACK in 20ms (with RTT of 10ms).

When the second ACK is being processed, the execution would pass through this if, and invoke AreAllPacketsLost. Because all the packets that were sent during the first few seconds are not acked, persistent congestion would be declared.

I think we can simply remove these lines, and rely on the fact that the comment in the pseudo-code talking about "edges." We can clarify what "edge" means, if necessary.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1581,6 +1588,10 @@ Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
    InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):

@marten-seemann I think you are suggesting of writing down in the spec an algorithm that can be used to detect persistent congestion, rather than just having something like AreAllPacketsLost. I'm not generally opposed to the idea, though I think we need to first seek what kind of implementation that we want to write down (assuming that we'd be writing down one). I think that deserves a separate issue.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1580,14 +1586,18 @@ Invoked when an ACK frame with an ECN section is received from the peer.
 Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
-   InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):
+   InPersistentCongestion(largest_lost):
+     // Persistent congestion cannot be declared on the
+     // first RTT sample.
+     if (is first RTT sample):
+       return false

I think we can simply remove these lines, and rely on the fact that the comment in the pseudo-code talking about "edges." We can clarify what "edge" means, if necessary.

I'm not sure if that's sufficient. I think I'd prefer to make the pseudo-code more closely resemble what you'd have to implement. Specifically, to implement this, you'll need a new global variable time_of_first_rtt_measurement, or alternative first_packet_sent_with_measured_rtt, and then you'll have to implement a comparison with the time of the packets in lost_packets.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1581,6 +1588,10 @@ Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
    InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):

That's a separate issue, see #3937.

Independent of that, I still think that 3ddca85 doesn't clarifying things, and would prefer to revert it.

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Consider the case where the sender receives an acknowledgement for packets from 5 to 10, and the period between 1 and 4 was longer than 3*PTO. IIUC, this is clearly a persistent congestion.

The original example is strictly worse than that, and I think it would make sense to declare persistent congestion in the case too. In other words, I think that 3 is incorrect.

That said, I do not have a strong opinion regarding if we should specifically recommend either of 1 or 2, considering that the logic (or the time threshold) being used to detect persistent congestion is merely a recommendation.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1580,14 +1586,18 @@ Invoked when an ACK frame with an ECN section is received from the peer.
 Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
-   InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):
+   InPersistentCongestion(largest_lost):
+     // Persistent congestion cannot be declared on the
+     // first RTT sample.
+     if (is first RTT sample):
+       return false

Specifically, to implement this, you'll need a new global variable time_of_first_rtt_measurement, or alternative first_packet_sent_with_measured_rtt, and then you'll have to implement a comparison with the time of the packets in lost_packets.

Can you implement that way? Persistent congestion is declared across all packet number spaces. That means that you'd have to consult if there any acks were received in the loss period observed in lost_packets. But you cannot remember all the moments when acks were received, because the state would be unbounded.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1581,6 +1588,10 @@ Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
    InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):

I think your argument is based on the assumption that lost_packets is useful, which I disagree. Please see #3889 (comment).

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This should fix #3920.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3938

Commit Summary

  • adding comment for max_ack_delay.
  • Using 0 for max_ack_delay in Initial and Handshake.

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After talking with @kazuho OOB, I managed to work out what our disa= greement is about. Consider the following example:

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If there=E2=80=99s an ACK that declares loss in 1-RTT space for packet= s sent between T=3D0 and T=3D5 (which, taken for itself would establish p= ersistent congestion), but there was a Handshake packet acknowledged (in = a separate ACK frame) sent at T=3D3, @kazuho wouldn't declare persiste= nt congestion. I very much agree with that logic, and note that this woul= d constitute a fine solution for #3831.

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Pseudo-code-wise, I think we'll have to get a bit fancy here, by intro= ducing two new global variables:

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When checking for persistent congestion in InPersistentCongestio= n(lost_packets), you'd only consider packets sent after max(= time_of_first_rtt_measurement, largest_acked_packet_send_time). Ho= w exactly "considering" here looks like will depend on the outcome of #3937.

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My understanding is that it is not, but it's unclear.

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----==_mimepart_5f17c5415f781_34743fcfce8cd95c4132a-- From nobody Tue Jul 21 21:53:50 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99663A0DB6 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 21:53:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cyxi8dAmQtiL for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 21:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25DBB3A0DB5 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 21:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.25.48]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EE08C0087 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 21:53:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595393624; bh=LlTHFppTs7iyxjAUNE+LJWaspasY9xV6Mgyyaj5ycpw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=n2PaiL7C1FELXtXtRb8kbUEXabIzLWB9pSQv8BxEDCofNsdXjpNW+X5+bbjJLGuKm eOcnEw/icaLn4+fHQ+UP+FvgwEspqf7mGSOXoZS2pkuHuEm0mJZsDRWwDIeYi7EJa2 LhUQ6GHWNPL2TmdHVWzgJI3R+Wa3UWeKkrokIHLc= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 21:53:44 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] clarify that persistent congestion is a contigous loss across all PN spaces (#3940) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f17c65846cc8_5b683ffc538cd964610b7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 04:53:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f17c65846cc8_5b683ffc538cd964610b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fixes #3939. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3940 -- Commit Summary -- * clarify that persistent congestion is a contigous loss across all PN spaces -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (21) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3940.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3940.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3940 ----==_mimepart_5f17c65846cc8_5b683ffc538cd964610b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #3939.

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  • clarify that persistent congestion is a contigous loss across all PN spaces

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FWIW, we had some discussion regarding the design rationale behind persistent congestion in #3875, and it seemed to me that it was mostly about the amount of time the sender cannot make any progress.

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@marten-seemann requested changes on this pull request.

I'm not sure this actually clarifies how to declare persistent congestion when ACKs are received for multiple packet number spaces. That is, I wouldn't know how to implement InPersistentCongestion based on this text.

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It can't be, since the congestion window is a global property, and declaring persistent congestion results in a collapse of the congestion window.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1580,14 +1586,18 @@ Invoked when an ACK frame with an ECN section is received from the peer.
 Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
-   InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):
+   InPersistentCongestion(largest_lost):
+     // Persistent congestion cannot be declared on the
+     // first RTT sample.
+     if (is first RTT sample):
+       return false

@kazuho can you explain your reasoning around "edges" being sufficient?

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FWIW this is what mvfst (and perhaps others?) has been doing since persistent congestion was implemented, since at the time it seemed silly to calculate the window using the initial RTT. However, at the time we still had the handshake timeout and so persistent congestion did not even apply to initial and handshake packets (see #2649).

More recently our deployment has relied on PTOs for the handshake and thus this check, and there are no obvious problems with it on the Internet. I am in favor of this change even if it is perhaps not exhaustive in its coverage of unlikely pathological cases.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1580,14 +1586,18 @@ Invoked when an ACK frame with an ECN section is received from the peer.
 Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
-   InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):
+   InPersistentCongestion(largest_lost):
+     // Persistent congestion cannot be declared on the
+     // first RTT sample.
+     if (is first RTT sample):
+       return false

@mjoras If we define "edge" as a lost packet next to a packet that has been acked, having both edges means that a series of packets being lost are surrounded by acks. As there would have been RTT samples obtained for each of the surrounding acks, there is no need for a separate condition that checks if an RTT sample has been previously obtained.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1581,6 +1588,10 @@ Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
    InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):

@marten-seemann It is impossible to rely on largest_acked_packet_send_time, because an ACK on another PN space might have arrived later than the persistent congestion period to be declared. See the example below.

IMG_3331

As stated in #3889 (comment), I do not think it is possible can use loss_packets, unless you implement some lossy behavior to bound state.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1581,6 +1588,10 @@ Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
    InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):

@kazuho That makes sense to me. The algorithm I envisioned doesn't work. Not sure how one would correctly implement a InPersistentCongestion that yields correct results across packet number spaces then...

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1129,6 +1129,10 @@ follows:
    smoothed_rtt = kInitialRtt
    rttvar = kInitialRtt / 2
    min_rtt = 0
+   // max_ack_delay is initialized to 0 and
+   // updated when transport parameters are exchanged.
+   // If a peer does not specify max_ack_delay,
+   // it is set to 25ms.

These comments look fine, but I am not sure if I agree with the rest of the changes.

IIUC, persistent congestion is a path-wide event rather than a event specific to the PN space. I think we need to have max_ack_delay even if that might turn out to be a bit conservative when 0-RTT / 1-RTT packets are not involved.

Then, there is no point in passing pn_space to InPersistentCongestion or to the functions that invoke InPersistentCongestion.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1580,14 +1586,18 @@ Invoked when an ACK frame with an ECN section is received from the peer.
 Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
-   InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):
+   InPersistentCongestion(largest_lost):
+     // Persistent congestion cannot be declared on the
+     // first RTT sample.
+     if (is first RTT sample):
+       return false

That's very cute. I would be okay with that too if we cleaned up what "edge" means and also clarify the notion of which contiguous segment should be considered for the persistent period.

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----==_mimepart_5f17da0379cb5_7a4c3fdefc8cd960731e-- From nobody Wed Jul 22 00:18:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B833A0E9D for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 00:18:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id himzbNunrm2M for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 00:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 087BD3A0E9C for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 00:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-d93c4b6.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d93c4b6.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.47]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7989A261576 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 00:17:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595402279; bh=l6AgVhduYn2QY9VWKGqn3AbY1LBAmQuwZT3x4MGnnjo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Zun3z8lknd7pg9Xnhdevd+t7HudG8BDXsuvnOO9jmG6YQejjg9T7RTTuGLr07u/MM EhFZKvQ//owfFdE7mCyv+eQC5zio6VnOOsu2rJqpLTbPoVYZ0/SrkZQKwOtYAYvH9+ puF+vIGszzYMg5BfOA7ce2lJMPoLs4XCozHfzNdQ= Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 00:17:59 -0700 From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove amplification throttle if the server receives Initial that echoes its high entropy SCID. (#3834) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f17e8273300d_5ec13fcd37ecd9681854b7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 07:18:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f17e8273300d_5ec13fcd37ecd9681854b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Yes, the Initial padding was discussed, and I think that as it depends on the client making an assessment of the entropy present in the connection ID, it is a non-starter. I see this concern, but consider a use case where it is expensive to send a large initial packet but the client has an a-priory key to generate trusted initial CIDs. In that case the client knows that entropy is sufficient and the server can validate the DCID. This can be done, for example, and deployment dependent, by using a blake-2b hash. For battery powered low-power radio devices, sending large initials can be prohibitive. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3834#issuecomment-662287250 ----==_mimepart_5f17e8273300d_5ec13fcd37ecd9681854b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yes, the Initial padding was discussed, and I think that as it depends on the client making an assessment of the entropy present in the connection ID, it is a non-starter.

I see this concern, but consider a use case where it is expensive to send a large initial packet but the client has an a-priory key to generate trusted initial CIDs. In that case the client knows that entropy is sufficient and the server can validate the DCID. This can be done, for example, and deployment dependent, by using a blake-2b hash.

For battery powered low-power radio devices, sending large initials can be prohibitive.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ~~~
 
-For example, assume:
+where PTO is computed as described in {{computing-pto}}.

If we are to (re)use PTO in the equation, I think it would be better to clarify that max_ack_delay should be used regardless of the packet number space for which a loss is newly observed.

That's what we do in the existing text, and IMO that aligns with the fact that persistent congestion is a connection-wide event that happens across all the packet number spaces.

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I'm a bit confused about why a client needs to probe multiple paths simultaneously, given we have connection migration, not multipath. To me, it just adds complexity. I guess I can just give out a single CID to mitigate the issue, but do we really expect servers to correctly implement probing on multiple paths? What if they all succeed? A client can still only use one.

@ekinnear can you clarify the packet racing issue a bit more or point me to text that already does?

I'd like to draw a state transition diagram for path validation, but if we can have multiple paths being validated at once, I'm not sure that's practical.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @marten-seemann So the scenario is that a client is using one path and has 2 or more new ones available? I've heard future hardware could make that possible, though I've never seen that case myself. The short of this is now that we're trying to move to IETF QUIC style connection migration and path validation, and I'm finding it fairly confusing. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3932#issuecomment-662396977 ----==_mimepart_5f1820df7282c_3a743ff138ccd968101811 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@marten-seemann So the scenario is that a client is using one path and has 2 or more new ones available? I've heard future hardware could make that possible, though I've never seen that case myself.

The short of this is now that we're trying to move to IETF QUIC style connection migration and path validation, and I'm finding it fairly confusing.

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----==_mimepart_5f1820df7282c_3a743ff138ccd968101811-- From nobody Wed Jul 22 04:37:56 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9963D3A0900 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 04:37:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id blGaF1gwTv_8 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 04:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94DEB3A08FF for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 04:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-56fcc46.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-56fcc46.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.102.32]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4688C1144 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 04:37:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595417872; bh=d9q0ei2N5shrpwj9lX89c1Bn4XdyDCZzb3b3WlZbMYw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lfNPnWZUioWuLQuygHEZuPaobtVumR4gl3cY8fs1t1ZKfZ57NXhz6hYTHHLhb5QXa TTnauZ/KaBMN0U3v5wBy5iHumbBDIYkNEuBTK+Lu4sG5s9p9o4Uhp8azE0P40fb9un aFmql6sKPazvPDnJ4OAXHY92aVkLu3h7x4Juhhwc= Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 04:37:52 -0700 From: Vidhi Goel Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] unclear definition of persistent congestion (#3937) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1825109ba77_7a8a3fa8df2cd9643580d1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: goelvidhi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 11:37:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1825109ba77_7a8a3fa8df2cd9643580d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think we should keep it simple, which IMO is do nothing. Or if we want to add a recommendation, we can say that you start with the largest lost packet and try to detect Persistent congestion until either you have found 1 occurrence or reached the end of list. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3937#issuecomment-662403980 ----==_mimepart_5f1825109ba77_7a8a3fa8df2cd9643580d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think we should keep it simple, which IMO is do nothing.
Or if we want to add a recommendation, we can say that you start with the largest lost packet and try to detect Persistent congestion until either you have found 1 occurrence or reached the end of list.

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@kazu-yamamoto commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1129,6 +1129,10 @@ follows:
    smoothed_rtt = kInitialRtt
    rttvar = kInitialRtt / 2
    min_rtt = 0
+   // max_ack_delay is initialized to 0 and
+   // updated when transport parameters are exchanged.
+   // If a peer does not specify max_ack_delay,
+   // it is set to 25ms.

My purpose is to make pseudocode consistent with the spec. It seems to me that the spec should be changed if your observation is correct. I'm happy to drop the commit when the spec is changed.

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Persistent congestion has to start with an ack-eliciting packet. The section on persistent congestion isn't very clear about this point.

This is because a non-ack-eliciting packet won't be followed up with any probes. It is therefore possible to send one packet and then not send anything else for an extended period. After this, the loss of just the next packet will cause persistent congestion.

Note that persistent congestion can be caused by the loss of just two packets after multiple PTOs have occurred, but the common case is that you have at least three packet, or four if you send two packets on PTO.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +Push stream data can also arrive after a client has canceled a push. In this
+case, the client can abort reading the stream with an error code of

Is this change still editorial if normative language is changed? I don't feel strongly otherwise: I think the SHOULD was justified, but the current test flows better without it given that the following sentence does not have SHOULD either.

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In particular, a server is not +able to push until after the client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends +additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to control the number of pushes that a server can +promise. A server SHOULD use Push IDs sequentially, beginning from zero. A +client MUST treat receipt of a push stream with a Push ID that is greater than +the maximum Push ID as a connection error of type H3_ID_ERROR. + +The Push ID is used in one or more PUSH_PROMISE frames ({{frame-push-promise}}) +that carry the header section of the request message. These frames are sent on +the request stream which generated the push. This allows the server push to be +associated with a client request. When the same Push ID is promised on multiple +request streams, the decompressed request field sections MUST contain the same +fields in the same order, and both the name and the value in each field MUST be +exact matches. "matches" sometimes means something other than equality. ```suggestion identical. ``` > +MAX_PUSH_ID frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. In particular, a server is not +able to push until after the client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends +additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to control the number of pushes that a server can +promise. A server SHOULD use Push IDs sequentially, beginning from zero. A +client MUST treat receipt of a push stream with a Push ID that is greater than +the maximum Push ID as a connection error of type H3_ID_ERROR. + +The Push ID is used in one or more PUSH_PROMISE frames ({{frame-push-promise}}) +that carry the header section of the request message. These frames are sent on +the request stream which generated the push. This allows the server push to be +associated with a client request. When the same Push ID is promised on multiple +request streams, the decompressed request field sections MUST contain the same +fields in the same order, and both the name and the value in each field MUST be +exact matches. + +The Push ID is then included with the push stream which ultimately fulfills ```suggestion The Push ID is then included with the push stream that ultimately fulfills ``` > @@ -907,9 +910,9 @@ graceful shutdown of a connection by sending a GOAWAY frame ({{frame-goaway}}). The GOAWAY frame contains an identifier that indicates to the receiver the range of requests or pushes that were or might be processed in this connection. The server sends a client-initiated bidirectional Stream ID; the client sends a Push -ID. Requests or pushes with the indicated identifier or greater are rejected by -the sender of the GOAWAY. This identifier MAY be zero if no requests or pushes -were processed. +ID ({{server-push}}). 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Note that persistent congestion can be caused by the loss of just two packets after multiple PTOs have occurred, but the common case is that you have at least three packet, or four if you send two packets on PTO.

Would it make sense to change the persistent congestion condition to require at least 3 packets to be lost, in addition to the time threshold that we already have?

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----==_mimepart_5f18316d70479_56973f87130cd968112673-- From nobody Wed Jul 22 06:13:30 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8FE3A09A4 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 06:13:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.697 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.697 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dZjr_f1Dv81H for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 06:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63C473A09A2 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 06:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c5134a3.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.55]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C64752113A for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 06:13:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595423605; bh=rqRQfqG4mdCNYhFcJhYxHXZHtaX2zLToSXTcCUw0qQs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Mkf5qD5kgagZTqzoVgQkMngLZop+N+IQji1YaIz1ZYUK1c6swXarCtMEoqqpS4Qx7 kxq6Qh5zu0IDuiIDvkDd3sFeH2gjcmx9KG7GUmLGh13gLzi6GCHVfi8Xm7fq5IQs0g 3tOmQWBP0LfqXvuGqEimGmITkIZkSr3pHDPsF1N4= Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 06:13:25 -0700 From: =?UTF-8?B?QmVuY2UgQsOpa3k=?= Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework flow of Push ID (#3925) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f183b751d1cf_129c3fd5086cd9604258dc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: bencebeky X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 13:13:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f183b751d1cf_129c3fd5086cd9604258dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @bencebeky commented on this pull request. > + +The Push ID space begins at zero, and ends at a maximum value set by the +MAX_PUSH_ID frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. In particular, a server is not +able to push until after the client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends +additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to control the number of pushes that a server can +promise. A server SHOULD use Push IDs sequentially, beginning from zero. A +client MUST treat receipt of a push stream with a Push ID that is greater than +the maximum Push ID as a connection error of type H3_ID_ERROR. + +The Push ID is used in one or more PUSH_PROMISE frames ({{frame-push-promise}}) +that carry the header section of the request message. These frames are sent on +the request stream which generated the push. This allows the server push to be +associated with a client request. When the same Push ID is promised on multiple +request streams, the decompressed request field sections MUST contain the same +fields in the same order, and both the name and the value in each field MUST be +exact matches. "same fields" and "both the name and the value in each field MUST be identical" are redundant. How about "MUST contain identical fields in the same order" or "MUST contain fields with identical name and value in the same order"? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3925#discussion_r458780531 ----==_mimepart_5f183b751d1cf_129c3fd5086cd9604258dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@bencebeky commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +
+The Push ID space begins at zero, and ends at a maximum value set by the
+MAX_PUSH_ID frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}.  In particular, a server is not
+able to push until after the client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame.  A client sends
+additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to control the number of pushes that a server can
+promise.  A server SHOULD use Push IDs sequentially, beginning from zero.  A
+client MUST treat receipt of a push stream with a Push ID that is greater than
+the maximum Push ID as a connection error of type H3_ID_ERROR.
+
+The Push ID is used in one or more PUSH_PROMISE frames ({{frame-push-promise}})
+that carry the header section of the request message.  These frames are sent on
+the request stream which generated the push.  This allows the server push to be
+associated with a client request.  When the same Push ID is promised on multiple
+request streams, the decompressed request field sections MUST contain the same
+fields in the same order, and both the name and the value in each field MUST be
+exact matches.

"same fields" and "both the name and the value in each field MUST be identical" are redundant. How about "MUST contain identical fields in the same order" or "MUST contain fields with identical name and value in the same order"?

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1129,6 +1129,10 @@ follows:
    smoothed_rtt = kInitialRtt
    rttvar = kInitialRtt / 2
    min_rtt = 0
+   // max_ack_delay is initialized to 0 and
+   // updated when transport parameters are exchanged.
+   // If a peer does not specify max_ack_delay,
+   // it is set to 25ms.

I'd argue that the spec is clear about the intent, and the current state of this PR is going to introduce a contradiction from what the spec says.

Quoting from section 4.1, "congestion control and round-trip time (RTT) measurement are unified across packet number spaces." As can be seen, persistent congestion by definition is a path-wide event. Not an event specific to the PN space in which a loss has been newly observed.

Based on that, my understanding is that consistently applying max_ack_delay exchanged by the Transport Parameter is the intent of the formula found in in section 7.8, and that the definition that currently exists in the WG draft is correct.

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Would it make sense to change the persistent congestion condition to require at least 3 packets to be lost, in addition to the time threshold that we already have?

FWIW we have had some discussion around this in #3875, and it seemed to me that there were preference to not do that.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -907,9 +910,9 @@ graceful shutdown of a connection by sending a GOAWAY frame ({{frame-goaway}}).
 The GOAWAY frame contains an identifier that indicates to the receiver the range
 of requests or pushes that were or might be processed in this connection.  The
 server sends a client-initiated bidirectional Stream ID; the client sends a Push
-ID.  Requests or pushes with the indicated identifier or greater are rejected by
-the sender of the GOAWAY.  This identifier MAY be zero if no requests or pushes
-were processed.
+ID ({{server-push}}).  Requests or pushes with the indicated identifier or

That reference informs the specific term, not the whole statement; I think the parentheses are more appropriate in this instance.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +Push stream data can also arrive after a client has canceled a push. In this
+case, the client can abort reading the stream with an error code of

It has to be design if it prohibits something previously permitted or permits something previously prohibited. A changed recommendation is hazier, and we've sometimes chosen to treat those as design for better visibility to make sure the WG is fully on-board, but they don't have to be.

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In this +case, the client can abort reading the stream with an error code of Okay, that makes sense. I'm fine with this change then. Thanks for the explanation. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3925#discussion_r458971497 ----==_mimepart_5f187b278d87b_73b03f88a8ccd95c2942d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +Push stream data can also arrive after a client has canceled a push. In this
+case, the client can abort reading the stream with an error code of

Okay, that makes sense. I'm fine with this change then. Thanks for the explanation.

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The -client can treat requests rejected by the server as though they had never been -sent at all, thereby allowing them to be retried later on a new connection. -Servers MUST NOT use the H3_REQUEST_REJECTED error code for requests which -were partially or fully processed. When a server abandons a response after -partial processing, it SHOULD abort its response stream with the error code -H3_REQUEST_CANCELLED. - -When a client resets a request with the error code H3_REQUEST_CANCELLED, a -server MAY abruptly terminate the response using the error code -H3_REQUEST_REJECTED if no processing was performed. Clients MUST NOT use the -H3_REQUEST_REJECTED error code, except when a server has requested closure of -the request stream with this error code. - -If a stream is cancelled after receiving a complete response, the client MAY +Once a request has been sent, it MAY be cancelled by either endpoint. Clients Does the request body (if exists) need to be sent completely before the client can cancel the request? Do the request headers need to be sent completely? Or may the stream be cancelled if only a the very first byte of the HEADERS frame has been delievered in a QUIC STREAM frame? Would "Once a request stream is open, the request MAY be cancelled" be better? > +requests if they are unable to or choose not to respond. When possible, it is +RECOMMENDED that servers send an HTTP response with an appropriate status code +rather than canceling a request it has already begun processing. + +Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by abruptly terminating any +directions of a stream that are still open. This means resetting the +sending parts of streams and aborting reading on receiving parts of streams; +see Section 2.4 of [QUIC-TRANSPORT]. + +When the server cancels a request without performing any application processing, +the request is considered "rejected." The server SHOULD abort its response +stream with the error code H3_REQUEST_REJECTED. In this context, "processed" +means that some data from the stream was passed to some higher layer of software +that might have taken some action as a result. The client can treat requests +rejected by the server as though they had never been sent at all, thereby +allowing them to be retried later on a new connection. Servers MUST NOT use the Is there any scenario whereby the request could be retried on the same connection (in which case "on a new connection" would be too restrictive)? BTW, why would a server reject a request but not close the connection? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3926#pullrequestreview-453581467 ----==_mimepart_5f1888f63475b_70ec3fd82e4cd95c68474d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -some higher layer of software that might have taken some action as a result. The
-client can treat requests rejected by the server as though they had never been
-sent at all, thereby allowing them to be retried later on a new connection.
-Servers MUST NOT use the H3_REQUEST_REJECTED error code for requests which
-were partially or fully processed.  When a server abandons a response after
-partial processing, it SHOULD abort its response stream with the error code
-H3_REQUEST_CANCELLED.
-
-When a client resets a request with the error code H3_REQUEST_CANCELLED, a
-server MAY abruptly terminate the response using the error code
-H3_REQUEST_REJECTED if no processing was performed.  Clients MUST NOT use the
-H3_REQUEST_REJECTED error code, except when a server has requested closure of
-the request stream with this error code.
-
-If a stream is cancelled after receiving a complete response, the client MAY
+Once a request has been sent, it MAY be cancelled by either endpoint.  Clients

Does the request body (if exists) need to be sent completely before the client can cancel the request? Do the request headers need to be sent completely? Or may the stream be cancelled if only a the very first byte of the HEADERS frame has been delievered in a QUIC STREAM frame?

Would "Once a request stream is open, the request MAY be cancelled" be better?

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +requests if they are unable to or choose not to respond.  When possible, it is
+RECOMMENDED that servers send an HTTP response with an appropriate status code
+rather than canceling a request it has already begun processing.
+
+Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by abruptly terminating any
+directions of a stream that are still open.  This means resetting the
+sending parts of streams and aborting reading on receiving parts of streams;
+see Section 2.4 of [QUIC-TRANSPORT].
+
+When the server cancels a request without performing any application processing,
+the request is considered "rejected."  The server SHOULD abort its response
+stream with the error code H3_REQUEST_REJECTED. In this context, "processed"
+means that some data from the stream was passed to some higher layer of software
+that might have taken some action as a result. The client can treat requests
+rejected by the server as though they had never been sent at all, thereby
+allowing them to be retried later on a new connection. Servers MUST NOT use the

Is there any scenario whereby the request could be retried on the same connection (in which case "on a new connection" would be too restrictive)? BTW, why would a server reject a request but not close the connection?

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@bencebeky commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -
-Server push is only enabled on a connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID
-frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. A server cannot use server push until it
-receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to
-control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A server SHOULD use Push
-IDs sequentially, starting at 0. A client MUST treat receipt of a push stream
-with a Push ID that is greater than the maximum Push ID as a connection error of
-type H3_ID_ERROR.
+Each server push is assigned a unique Push ID by the server which is used to
+refer to the push in various contexts throughout the lifetime of the connection.
+
+The Push ID space begins at zero, and ends at a maximum value set by the
+MAX_PUSH_ID frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}.  In particular, a server is not
+able to push until after the client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame.  A client sends
+additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to control the number of pushes that a server can
+promise.  A server SHOULD use Push IDs sequentially, beginning from zero.  A

"A client sends additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames...". This sentence kind of implies that the very first MAX_PUSH_ID frame does not control the number of pushed that a server is allowed to promise, only the subsequent MAX_PUSH_ID frames. Maybe remove this sentence altogether, because {{frame-max-push-id}} is already doing a great job explaining how the client can send such frames to allow for new push promises as the server fulfills or cancels existing ones?

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@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -some higher layer of software that might have taken some action as a result. The
-client can treat requests rejected by the server as though they had never been
-sent at all, thereby allowing them to be retried later on a new connection.
-Servers MUST NOT use the H3_REQUEST_REJECTED error code for requests which
-were partially or fully processed.  When a server abandons a response after
-partial processing, it SHOULD abort its response stream with the error code
-H3_REQUEST_CANCELLED.
-
-When a client resets a request with the error code H3_REQUEST_CANCELLED, a
-server MAY abruptly terminate the response using the error code
-H3_REQUEST_REJECTED if no processing was performed.  Clients MUST NOT use the
-H3_REQUEST_REJECTED error code, except when a server has requested closure of
-the request stream with this error code.
-
-If a stream is cancelled after receiving a complete response, the client MAY
+Once a request has been sent, it MAY be cancelled by either endpoint.  Clients

Technically, the stream needn't have any bytes sent.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +requests if they are unable to or choose not to respond.  When possible, it is
+RECOMMENDED that servers send an HTTP response with an appropriate status code
+rather than canceling a request it has already begun processing.
+
+Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by abruptly terminating any
+directions of a stream that are still open.  This means resetting the
+sending parts of streams and aborting reading on receiving parts of streams;
+see Section 2.4 of [QUIC-TRANSPORT].
+
+When the server cancels a request without performing any application processing,
+the request is considered "rejected."  The server SHOULD abort its response
+stream with the error code H3_REQUEST_REJECTED. In this context, "processed"
+means that some data from the stream was passed to some higher layer of software
+that might have taken some action as a result. The client can treat requests
+rejected by the server as though they had never been sent at all, thereby
+allowing them to be retried later on a new connection. Servers MUST NOT use the

Good point. In some ways, this is a holdover from HTTP/2, where it was possible for the client to exceed the server's stream limit, and REJECTED was a mechanism to close those streams without penalizing the client. A server might still do that under load -- you can't take back stream credit, but you can reject incoming requests and not replace the stream credit.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +Push stream data can also arrive after a client has canceled a push. In this
+case, the client can abort reading the stream with an error code of

Actually, it turns out the same SHOULD is present in the CANCEL_PUSH section anyway:

When a server sends CANCEL_PUSH, it is indicating that it will not be fulfilling
a promise. The client cannot expect the corresponding promise to be fulfilled,
unless it has already received and processed the promised response. A server
SHOULD send a CANCEL_PUSH even if it has opened the corresponding stream.

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----==_mimepart_5f18a29bd9cbb_7d393fc0d2ccd96899369-- From nobody Wed Jul 22 14:12:39 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4BDF3A09A6 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:12:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xJvl9FXeMtfX for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B51593A09A5 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-39ac79b.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-39ac79b.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.15]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570B5661E29 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:12:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595452356; bh=X/JY2c8ezyqcQZ5OF+6CSmBCG7Gd0iJFz6rHSEqRSxk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=YCeWrQo4Gl5S+/E2WEVfMorWJmGJXLn0AOOUshnPuaV+iktT+MEyLOK+WoV3o6CL6 gAVODcXdpyQOzX/YnHhaQ0qQhTXPVPIjmgVApSWB54t8w+8E2Y1t07zzpcP2Kuvofx C2xFDPn0aaFGN5S0ArSl5/TxkxpbEaGj6r9EIsws= Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:12:36 -0700 From: Mike Bishop To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] f06285: WIP: HTTP WGLC review Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:12:39 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/http/mbishop_wglc Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: f062859a6723a2f5464bf156b72a3ec232cbf5c1 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f062859a6723a2f5464bf156b72a3ec232cbf5c1 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2020-07-22 (Wed, 22 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md Log Message: ----------- WIP: HTTP WGLC review From nobody Wed Jul 22 14:13:32 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BEC3A09B1 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:13:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.102 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.102 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FCTfSYnA1Upc for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B1E93A09AD for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.25.48]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D855E0E7A for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:13:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595452408; bh=5498yWw37RJxlXgQO/4iZcto+9BL04KG1an1E6fnYcs=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=o3A4MdKDpo1xmhoyFSkJGHBqMW0GZCzE7kjr9gGCKOqsKg84L8QQ/8nNmMyo2pT03 HjJKU6VF8nPCA8mNEmlfMPtdD+fI5rxJnvA6Pq2spOWGmepw6/Ogyu1jgKErHZlA6g VZNfqmMXr3ZsEPbuE3fdudZKleCh07qkuLHOcfhE= Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:13:28 -0700 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 7a40d0: Script updating gh-pages from f062859a. 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Those that didn't seem to warrant separate issues, anyway.

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I think there's one tricky point in resetting the min_rtt after handshake confirmation. That is that all the packets can be acked with delays.

IIRC, one of the reasons we were happy with using min_rtt for capping latest_rtt is that Initial and Handshake packets do not have ack_delays.

If we are to suggest that an endpoint MAY reset min_rtt when persistent congestion is declared, I think we should consider the risk of not having good estimate of min_rtt, as we would have during the handshake.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +requests if they are unable to or choose not to respond.  When possible, it is
+RECOMMENDED that servers send an HTTP response with an appropriate status code
+rather than canceling a request it has already begun processing.
+
+Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by abruptly terminating any
+directions of a stream that are still open.  This means resetting the
+sending parts of streams and aborting reading on receiving parts of streams;
+see Section 2.4 of [QUIC-TRANSPORT].
+
+When the server cancels a request without performing any application processing,
+the request is considered "rejected."  The server SHOULD abort its response
+stream with the error code H3_REQUEST_REJECTED. In this context, "processed"
+means that some data from the stream was passed to some higher layer of software
+that might have taken some action as a result. The client can treat requests
+rejected by the server as though they had never been sent at all, thereby
+allowing them to be retried later on a new connection. Servers MUST NOT use the

That makes sense. In that case, a client is allowed to retry the request later on the same connection.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1581,6 +1588,10 @@ Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
    InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):

@marten-seemann IIUC, one trivial way of implementing InPersistentCongestion is as follows:

  • Retain the entries in sentmap (the list of packets being sent) for at least 3 PTO.
  • When receiving an acknowledgement, mark a hole in the sentmap for the packet being acked.
  • When a loss is detected in a packet number space, check if that loss spans across more than 3 PTO, by traversing the sentmap. Then, if did, check the sentmap of other packet number spaces (by traversing through those sentmaps) to see if any ACK-eliciting packet sent in that period has been acked.

This approach might sound too trivial, as it is O(N) where N is the number of packets being lost (or in case there are multiple PN spaces in action, the number of inflight packets in other PN spaces). But in practice, I think this approach is sufficient in terms of performance, because N would be like 3 for the current packet number space, and because we would not be sending that many packets on Initial and Handshake packet number spaces.

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----==_mimepart_5f18dd9bebe9b_67933febcdccd9605974fb-- From nobody Wed Jul 22 17:46:48 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6945D3A0A96 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 17:46:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tMGHBmdyOU2l for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 17:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-9.smtp.github.com (out-9.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 556FF3A0992 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 17:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.61]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C98026184F for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 17:46:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595465205; bh=4kLw3+o+FcskNhcq4hdKtAdXuCbMY4xaGQjaq5T9ZOk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ajlOaWIYoio6Oo0igaJBOBfdBQrheVcMgN0IS+34w2UlFobOZ1uDrIiDAfWSKKwsQ X/p9NCVVmnx6+Q5NfTc1IuvgR9SO6nwRerpytgL4p+HqpNmTUo1wLExagoK8qz0ggr APtRBmEoabo3D0d2hWIv/eKV0kSqGMQ5THkawCjg= Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 17:46:45 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Starting persistent congestion on a ack-eliciting packet (#3941) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f18ddf546cd2_33b03fdac88cd95c71589b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 00:46:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f18ddf546cd2_33b03fdac88cd95c71589b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I implemented this as requiring ack-eliciting on the basis that once you are two PTOs out, it's not that bad that you hit persistent congestion, but I wouldn't object to that. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3941#issuecomment-662767605 ----==_mimepart_5f18ddf546cd2_33b03fdac88cd95c71589b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I implemented this as requiring ack-eliciting on the basis that once you are two PTOs out, it's not that bad that you hit persistent congestion, but I wouldn't object to that.

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@marten-seemann It sounds like that your complaint is not against the change in this PR by itself. Reading your comments on #3939 it is my understanding that you think the change to the text is fine.

I'd assume that your complaint is rather about the pseudo-code not clarifying how QUIC stacks can implement InPersistentCongestion.

Regarding how, I could well be wrong, but I think it is not that difficult to implement InPersistentCongestion (see #3889 (comment)).

I am positive to adding a description regarding how QUIC stacks might implement InPersistentCongestion, though I am not sure if we can come up with a pseudo-code that explains the algorithm linked above, considering the fact that we do not describe how an endpoint might implement a sentmap. So maybe adding a few lines of comments to the pseudo-code would be a good thing to do.

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FWIW, I should add that this is how quicly implements it. If I remember correctly, that it's also how Chrome implements it.

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In order to remain similar to TCP, implementations SHOULD NOT use a packet threshold less than 3; see {{?RFC5681}}. -Some networks may exhibit higher degrees of reordering, causing a sender to -detect spurious losses. Algorithms that increase the reordering threshold after -spuriously detecting losses, such as TCP-NCR ({{?RFC4653}}), have proven to be -useful in TCP and are expected to be at least as useful in QUIC. Re-ordering -could be more common with QUIC than TCP, because network elements cannot observe -and fix the order of out-of-order packets. +Some networks may exhibit higher degrees of packet reordering, causing a sender +to detect spurious losses. Additionally, packet reordering could be more common +with QUIC than TCP, because network elements that could observe and fix the +order of reordered TCP packets cannot do it with QUIC. Algorithms that increase Missed this. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -436,12 +436,13 @@ The RECOMMENDED initial value for the packet reordering threshold
 ({{?RFC5681}}, {{?RFC6675}}).  In order to remain similar to TCP,
 implementations SHOULD NOT use a packet threshold less than 3; see {{?RFC5681}}.
 
-Some networks may exhibit higher degrees of reordering, causing a sender to
-detect spurious losses.  Algorithms that increase the reordering threshold after
-spuriously detecting losses, such as TCP-NCR ({{?RFC4653}}), have proven to be
-useful in TCP and are expected to be at least as useful in QUIC.  Re-ordering
-could be more common with QUIC than TCP, because network elements cannot observe
-and fix the order of out-of-order packets.
+Some networks may exhibit higher degrees of packet reordering, causing a sender
+to detect spurious losses. Additionally, packet reordering could be more common
+with QUIC than TCP, because network elements that could observe and fix the
+order of reordered TCP packets cannot do it with QUIC. Algorithms that increase

Missed this. Fixed this in 8abb9fa

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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That's a good point, and not an obvious one.

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@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +     ack_delay = 0
+     if (pn_space == ApplicationData):
+       ack_delay = max_ack_delay

Based on discussions about PC elsewhere, I realized my error. This needs to be reverted. In fact, I would suggest that we initialize max_ack_delay to 25ms for that reason.

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When possible, it is +RECOMMENDED that servers send an HTTP response with an appropriate status code +rather than canceling a request it has already begun processing. + +Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by abruptly terminating any +directions of a stream that are still open. This means resetting the +sending parts of streams and aborting reading on receiving parts of streams; +see Section 2.4 of [QUIC-TRANSPORT]. + +When the server cancels a request without performing any application processing, +the request is considered "rejected." The server SHOULD abort its response +stream with the error code H3_REQUEST_REJECTED. In this context, "processed" +means that some data from the stream was passed to some higher layer of software +that might have taken some action as a result. The client can treat requests +rejected by the server as though they had never been sent at all, thereby +allowing them to be retried later on a new connection. Servers MUST NOT use the ```suggestion allowing them to be retried later. Servers MUST NOT use the ``` > +possible, it is RECOMMENDED that servers send an HTTP response with an +appropriate status code rather than canceling a request it has already begun +processing. + +Implementations SHOULD cancel requests by abruptly terminating any +directions of a stream that are still open. This means resetting the +sending parts of streams and aborting reading on receiving parts of streams; +see Section 2.4 of [QUIC-TRANSPORT]. + +When the server cancels a request without performing any application processing, +the request is considered "rejected." The server SHOULD abort its response +stream with the error code H3_REQUEST_REJECTED. In this context, "processed" +means that some data from the stream was passed to some higher layer of software +that might have taken some action as a result. The client can treat requests +rejected by the server as though they had never been sent at all, thereby +allowing them to be retried later. Servers MUST NOT use the H3_REQUEST_REJECTED ```suggestion allowing them to be retried later. Servers MUST NOT use the H3_REQUEST_REJECTED ``` This seems like a good point to break this mega-paragraph. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3926#pullrequestreview-452864917 ----==_mimepart_5f18f36090f9d_6dc13fbe3eccd96828121 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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The recovery draft says that on congestion, NewReno halves the congestion window. The corresponding pseudo-code is as follows:

congestion_window *= kLossReductionFactor

This isn't quite correct however, since when application limited, the amount of data in flight can be lesser than that allowed. The reduction should be on what was actually in flight, rather than what the sender was allowed to send.

For reference, RFC 5681, which defines NewReno for TCP, says this on Page 7 (Eq. 4):

 ssthresh = max (FlightSize / 2, 2*SMSS)

(and cwnd is later set to this value).

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As it stands, the recovery draft does not require the congestion window to be reduced on loss. The only part that talks about this is in Section 7.4, which says:

When a loss or ECN-CE marking is detected, NewReno halves the congestion window, sets the
slow start threshold to the new congestion window, and then enters the recovery period.

We need to require this reduction for the controller to be a NewReno controller.

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These are unrelated changes, but I re-read the text and I think that it could be better. The core change is fine. > +network is considered to be experiencing persistent congestion. Commonly, this +can be established by consecutive PTOs, but since the PTO timer is reset when a +new ack-eliciting packet is sent, an explicit duration must be used to account +for those cases where PTOs do not occur or are substantially delayed. The This business about establishing PC using PTO is really confusing and I would remove this sentence. ```suggestion network is considered to be experiencing persistent congestion. The ``` > -sent over a long enough period of time, the network is considered to be -experiencing persistent congestion. Commonly, this can be established by -consecutive PTOs, but since the PTO timer is reset when a new ack-eliciting -packet is sent, an explicit duration must be used to account for those cases -where PTOs do not occur or are substantially delayed. The rationale for this -threshold is to enable a sender to use initial PTOs for aggressive probing, as -TCP does with Tail Loss Probe (TLP; see {{RACK}}), before establishing -persistent congestion, as TCP does with a Retransmission Timeout (RTO; see -{{?RFC5681}}). The RECOMMENDED value for kPersistentCongestionThreshold is 3, -which is approximately equivalent to two TLPs before an RTO in TCP. +sent over a long enough period of time across all the packet number spaces, the +network is considered to be experiencing persistent congestion. Commonly, this +can be established by consecutive PTOs, but since the PTO timer is reset when a +new ack-eliciting packet is sent, an explicit duration must be used to account +for those cases where PTOs do not occur or are substantially delayed. The +rationale for this threshold is to enable a sender to use initial PTOs for ```suggestion rationale for this threshold is to allow a sender to initially use PTOs for ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3940#pullrequestreview-453819975 ----==_mimepart_5f1908772c251_11ac3ffcd9ecd96458348 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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These are unrelated changes, but I re-read the text and I think that i= t could be better.

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The core change is fine.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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This business about establishing PC using PTO is really confusing and = I would remove this sentence.

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=0D = ----==_mimepart_5f1908772c251_11ac3ffcd9ecd96458348-- From nobody Wed Jul 22 20:56:56 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7913A0C07 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 20:56:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tHwJHB7QCbFC for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 20:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB3833A0C04 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 20:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.105.50]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C38D6A095C for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 20:56:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595476611; bh=q1m+Lw+ZMMeFv6DB3f0m3vlDg60R7WYc8dvjV2YML50=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0ao3HfgjwmvCXLGm4sZiUrPiiwWAB1JSwsdQLQ8d9oZkQdBX7pwyJVN+d/8OL49dR U1bEP+YvodrKcaJReoUf6qajHfDwdKc8X7JsW0XbC6aPa4GYc+HEmQ2bBUC39QEe+y twNJzeEHG5ykhT+Hma/YXVhFA+5FhIGIpnnR8lDs= Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 20:56:51 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] It's unclear if persistent congestion is a per-PN-space property (#3939) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f190a831bcdf_4e743f970f4cd96c8537d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 03:56:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f190a831bcdf_4e743f970f4cd96c8537d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It shouldn't be, because congestion is a network/connection-level property. That said, @marten-seemann and I were discussing this offline, and I'm now coming to terms with the fact that it's hard to do this globally across packet number spaces. Basically we have no current model to track packet transmissions across packet number spaces, and implementations do not typically do this either. I think this is hard to do across PN spaces... or at least, I've not been able to figure out a reliable way to do it. I'm now thinking that we might want to disable persistent congestion until the handshake is confirmed. That is a departure from TCP, but I might argue that is still ok. In practice, we still have a congestion window reduction that occurs on losses in this period. Also, in practice, since the handshake will involve only a few packets in flight, losses should cause the cwnd to reduce to a small enough value. Thoughts? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3939#issuecomment-662806831 ----==_mimepart_5f190a831bcdf_4e743f970f4cd96c8537d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It shouldn't be, because congestion is a network/connection-level property. That said, @marten-seemann and I were discussing this offline, and I'm now coming to terms with the fact that it's hard to do this globally across packet number spaces.

Basically we have no current model to track packet transmissions across packet number spaces, and implementations do not typically do this either. I think this is hard to do across PN spaces... or at least, I've not been able to figure out a reliable way to do it.

I'm now thinking that we might want to disable persistent congestion until the handshake is confirmed. That is a departure from TCP, but I might argue that is still ok. In practice, we still have a congestion window reduction that occurs on losses in this period. Also, in practice, since the handshake will involve only a few packets in flight, losses should cause the cwnd to reduce to a small enough value.

Thoughts?

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It shouldn't be, because congestion is a network/connection-level property. That said, @marten-seemann and I were discussing this offline, and I'm now coming to terms with the fact that it's hard to do this globally across packet number spaces.

Basically we have no current model to track packet transmissions across packet number spaces, and implementations do not typically do this either. I think this is hard to do across PN spaces... or at least, I've not been able to figure out a reliable way to do it.

I think that it is actually easy; see #3889 (comment).

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(@kazuho: Could you move the discussion on that from the PR to this issue?)

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1581,6 +1588,10 @@ Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
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    InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):

When receiving an acknowledgement, mark a hole in the sentmap for the packet being acked.

I don't think that's trivial. Creating a "hole" is extra state that has to be cleaned up at some point.

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----==_mimepart_5f190c5b88ee2_7ca23fafddecd96c53460-- From nobody Wed Jul 22 21:05:07 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624F63A0C10 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:05:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iDoGhB3BAd03 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D746B3A0C0F for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1b8c660.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1b8c660.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C8B6A0A56 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:05:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595477102; bh=QvfJlDLFfK6YUGBo4z4RcnCmXo7ffhceFf5mO5GVkgo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SmfpSlNSm+9UPo9MQj432z+VF+AIBTQ+wq6Kx5oI6V/1R2DipzDHNyySlkx8z4p+Y noaPuNwfXv2dcde85Q9Vd12z+fE34x2OvVJjQ1QQTtcvbKkUCj1376qvVL4zMSXCU7 EMguCqzOKHGgLKjX8k4ldkD0U9vDZxz5xAMa+Zo8= Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:05:02 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] It's unclear if persistent congestion is a per-PN-space property (#3939) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f190c6e5f2b5_36f93f80bf6cd96c13417"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 04:05:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f190c6e5f2b5_36f93f80bf6cd96c13417 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @janaiyengar Sure. The following is what was written in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3889#discussion_r459160599: One trivial way of implementing `InPersistentCongestion` is as follows: * Retain the entries in sentmap (the list of packets being sent) for at least 3 PTO. * When receiving an acknowledgement, mark a hole in the sentmap for the packet being acked. * When a loss is detected in a packet number space, check if that loss spans across more than 3 PTO, by traversing the sentmap. Then, if did, check the sentmap of other packet number spaces (by traversing through those sentmaps) to see if any ACK-eliciting packet sent in that period has been acked. This approach might sound too trivial, as it is O(N) where N is the number of packets being lost (or in case there are multiple PN spaces in action, the number of inflight packets in other PN spaces). But in practice, I think this approach is sufficient in terms of performance, because N would be like 3 for the current packet number space, and because we would not be sending that many packets on Initial and Handshake packet number spaces. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3939#issuecomment-662808337 ----==_mimepart_5f190c6e5f2b5_36f93f80bf6cd96c13417 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar Sure. The following is what was written in #3889 (comment):

One trivial way of implementing InPersistentCongestion is as follows:

  • Retain the entries in sentmap (the list of packets being sent) for at least 3 PTO.
  • When receiving an acknowledgement, mark a hole in the sentmap for the packet being acked.
  • When a loss is detected in a packet number space, check if that loss spans across more than 3 PTO, by traversing the sentmap. Then, if did, check the sentmap of other packet number spaces (by traversing through those sentmaps) to see if any ACK-eliciting packet sent in that period has been acked.

This approach might sound too trivial, as it is O(N) where N is the number of packets being lost (or in case there are multiple PN spaces in action, the number of inflight packets in other PN spaces). But in practice, I think this approach is sufficient in terms of performance, because N would be like 3 for the current packet number space, and because we would not be sending that many packets on Initial and Handshake packet number spaces.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1581,6 +1588,10 @@ Invoked when Detect=
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    InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):

Moving the discussion to #3939, starting from #3939 (comment). @marten-seemann I will respond there.

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In #3889, @marten-seemann states:

When receiving an acknowledgement, mark a hole in the sentmap for the packet being acked.

I don't think that's trivial. Creating a "hole" is extra state that has to be cleaned up at some point.

It does not require additional state.

In QUIC, there is an expectation that packet numbers would be used sequentially, starting from zero. Therefore, a "gap" can be detected when iterating through the sentmap and if the packet number increases (or decreases) by more than one.

Note that endpoints are recommended to treat receipt of an acknowledgment for a packet it did not send as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION, if it is able to detect the condition (transport draft; section 13.1). Therefore, when intentionally skipping a packet number, it is a good idea to have that recorded in the sentmap, and close the connection when the peer acks that skipped packet number.

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  • When receiving an acknowledgement, mark a hole in the sentmap for the= packet being acked.

I don't think this is trivial, quite the opposite actually. A "hole" w= ould be extra state (note that just the absence of a packet at a certain = PN does not constitute a hole, since you could've skipped that PN to miti= gate the optimistic ACK attack), and that additional state has to be clea= ned up.

In my implementation, when a packet is acknowledged, I know I can dele= te it and get rid of all state associated with it. Deviating from this, j= ust to be able to do do persistent congestion detection across packet num= ber spaces, seems like a lot of hassle to me.
As @janaiyengar described, any packet loss during the handsh= ake will half the congestion window, and with #3943, it will even reduce t= he congestion window to half the bytes in flight (which will commonly be = less than the cwnd during the handshake). Simple Reno-style congestion co= ntrol will therefore lead to behavior that is very similar to actually do= ing persistent congestion detection across packet number spaces, without = all the additional complexity.

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In most cases, the only reason a client will need to send another large Initial is if there is loss. In low-power conditions, coalescing of Initial and Handshake by the server can be used, at which point the client never has to send an Initial again. Unless there is loss, the client in this case only ever sends one 1200 byte packet. (And it probably never ever has to receive a packet that big ever again, assuming that the server doesn't decide to drop a 10k certificate on it.)

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +network is considered to be experiencing persistent congestion.  Commonly, this
+can be established by consecutive PTOs, but since the PTO timer is reset when a
+new ack-eliciting packet is sent, an explicit duration must be used to account
+for those cases where PTOs do not occur or are substantially delayed. The

I'm not the editor, but I think I agree. The rationale for choosing 3 as the multiplier is explained below. That's sufficient.

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Nice. A few suggestions, but these are mostly easy or obvious fixes. Feel free to use follow-up issues for the trickier comments. > references the PUSH_PROMISE frame using a Push ID. See {{frame-push-promise}}. PING (0x6): -: PING frames do not exist, since QUIC provides equivalent functionality. +: PING frames do not exist in HTTP/3, since QUIC provides equivalent ```suggestion : PING frames do not exist in HTTP/3, as QUIC provides equivalent ``` > @@ -2406,7 +2416,7 @@ INADEQUATE_SECURITY (0xc): : Not applicable, since QUIC is assumed to provide sufficient security on all connections. -H3_1_1_REQUIRED (0xd): +HTTP_1_1_REQUIRED (0xd): HTTP 3.1.1 for Workgroups, perhaps? > SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE: : QUIC requires both stream and connection flow control window sizes to be - specified in the initial transport handshake. Specifying - SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE in the SETTINGS frame is an error. + specified in the initial transport handshake. Specifying the + SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE parameter in the SETTINGS frame is an error. Are we using "parameter" now? I seem to recall that h2 uses "setting". And SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE isn't a defined parameter, so you might want to say "Specifying a setting with an identifier of `` (the identifier for SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE in HTTP/2) must be treated as a connection error of type ``." Same for the concurrent stream limit. > @@ -2246,7 +2254,7 @@ Because the Flags field is not present in generic HTTP/3 frames, those frames which depend on the presence of flags need to allocate space for flags as part of their frame payload. -Other than this issue, frame type HTTP/2 extensions are typically portable to +Other than these issue, frame type HTTP/2 extensions are typically portable to ```suggestion Other than these issues, frame type HTTP/2 extensions are typically portable to ``` > +includes two additional fields. Permanent registrations in this registry SHOULD +include the following field: Are you worried about the greasing values with this? > @@ -446,21 +450,24 @@ response following a final HTTP response MUST be treated as malformed An HTTP message (request or response) consists of: -1. the header field section (see Section 5 of {{!SEMANTICS}}), sent as a single - HEADERS frame (see {{frame-headers}}), +1. the header field section, sent as a single HEADERS frame (see + {{frame-headers}}), + +2. optionally, the payload body, if present, sent as a series of DATA frames + (see {{frame-data}}), Is this a list? ```suggestion (see {{frame-data}}), and ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3942#pullrequestreview-453830792 ----==_mimepart_5f19157155a2b_76313f8953ccd9602613c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I don't see that as a risk here. min_rtt doesn't consider any discretionary delays.

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@martinthomson That's exactly the problem. min_rtt will be inflated by max_ack_delay, unless and until the peer sends an immediate acknowledgement. And until that happens, smoothed_rtt will as well.

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I think that's OK. In practice, immediate ACKs do happen, and even at low rates, this should resolve to a "true" minimum. And if it doesn't, then you have worse performance than you might had otherwise. You have to have a pretty poor network (or a terrible ACK generation regime) for min_rtt not to eventually resolve to a useful minimum.

Explaining this risk is fine, but the endpoint that does this made the choice to throw out min_rtt and that's just a consequence of that.

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----==_mimepart_5f1917283886_30943fdc61ccd968610c3-- From nobody Wed Jul 22 21:53:46 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D023A0C64 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:53:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dRCUnqPwG1m0 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89AE93A0C66 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f045d1f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.19.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92623520E18 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:53:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595480020; bh=/9sI9GvcwBRYASe60Lya0ORg+cVzLAJZ8V489vNfCRw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=T5UsneI5+sVQqW5Jo/FoiJk5OAW+VXwRVRYpZRrWUGbNDxKeFEA0RIc4rdU7BKqMw vG06Y8j4eFHnU99YhqonicbfxVs574ynGttLswPL8koRIwwly+LQAK+tFXyey5pyEW nN8misR8nuL9AKa2JEOmmpTeiYjgiTlsQMPS47bA= Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:53:40 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] It's unclear if persistent congestion is a per-PN-space property (#3939) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1917d482fb2_28e23fc934ecd96023942"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 04:53:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1917d482fb2_28e23fc934ecd96023942 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There was a comment reorder. @marten-seemann I think your question has been answered in my previous comment. @janaiyengar Going back to the spec discussion, even if it is the case that _some_ implementations might have difficulty in implementing persistent congestion detection covering multiple packet number spaces, that alone does not mean that our recommendation should deviate from what TCP does. I would very much prefer phrasing the discussion around _if_ we should have a MAY allowing endpoints skip persistent congestion detection during the handshake. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3939#issuecomment-662817609 ----==_mimepart_5f1917d482fb2_28e23fc934ecd96023942 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

There was a comment reorder.

@marten-seemann I think your question has been answered in my previous comment.

@janaiyengar Going back to the spec discussion, even if it is the case that some implementations might have difficulty in implementing persistent congestion detection covering multiple packet number spaces, that alone does not mean that our recommendation should deviate from what TCP does.

I would very much prefer phrasing the discussion around if we should have a MAY allowing endpoints skip persistent congestion detection during the handshake.

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----==_mimepart_5f1917d482fb2_28e23fc934ecd96023942-- From nobody Wed Jul 22 22:00:31 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96433A0C74 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:00:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bXJzwF1S3Xfn for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65A1D3A0C73 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6349a71.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.18.20]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8058C05E6 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:00:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595480426; bh=mcD8/jaN/DqzJ/HPQrXCbHhDgnKxV5TRWjW7NYzzPL4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=eVOwDn6Y0aUwi4JY47LYfZR9gXtoRPOT25MRJDZ3Ykuyziz/0NwPEpdV5HILlOGOx CxabnIOtzeQiYLMMxfET/sC2vSGCYvlHOF5SmqeRgc1WsG1HYmZ+qceuzPkn2NH+TV U+/1WvSdl2pLnRIQ1tgZBGS7UfhQdcTr0W+cdjtU= Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:00:26 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reset min_rtt on persistent congestion (#3927) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f19196a4edb8_67023f9479ccd95c978a6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 05:00:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f19196a4edb8_67023f9479ccd95c978a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On one hand I agree that we can expect to see immediate ACKs, especially when HTTP/3 is used. At the same time, I am not sure if resetting min_rtt when observing persistent congestion is better than other cases where we might reset min_rtt, but that we do not currently mention. Change of IP_TTL could be one of the examples in this regard (IIRC @larseggert pointed out that we do not use that value for detecting path changes). To summarize, I think talking about resetting min_rtt might be fine, though I am not sure if that discussion should be tied to persistent congestion. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3927#issuecomment-662818940 ----==_mimepart_5f19196a4edb8_67023f9479ccd95c978a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

On one hand I agree that we can expect to see immediate ACKs, especially when HTTP/3 is used.

At the same time, I am not sure if resetting min_rtt when observing persistent congestion is better than other cases where we might reset min_rtt, but that we do not currently mention.

Change of IP_TTL could be one of the examples in this regard (IIRC @larseggert pointed out that we do not use that value for detecting path changes).

To summarize, I think talking about resetting min_rtt might be fine, though I am not sure if that discussion should be tied to persistent congestion.

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@marten-seemann I think your question has been answered in my previous comment.

There are different ways to implement packet number skipping for optimistic ACK defense, which don't involve creating fake packets in the sentmap. Those ways would make it impossible to use the "hole method" without creating additional state for already acknowledged packets.

@janaiyengar Going back to the spec discussion, even if it is the case that some implementations might have difficulty in implementing persistent congestion detection covering multiple packet number spaces, that alone does not mean that our recommendation should deviate from what TCP does.

No matter what we do, our recommendation will deviate from what TCP does. Going back to the example you posted in #3889 (comment), the acknowledgement of the Handshake packet would already trigger an RTO in TCP. In QUIC, we can't do that, because the packets live in different packet number spaces, and an ACK can only ever declare loss in its own packet number space.

So the question cannot be if we want to deviate from what TCP does. We already do, and there's no way around it.
Instead, we need to ask how much additional complexity we want to introduce to handle this corner case. I'd argue that the benefit is extremely limited, and we should therefore pick the simplest solution: only run persistent congestion detection for packets sent after handshake confirmation.

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So the question cannot be if we want to deviate from what TCP does. We already do, and there's no way around it.

For some of the things, we have to deviate from QUIC, because there is no way around it.

But for this particular case, it is easy for some if not most of the QUIC stacks. Then, there's no ground to "recommend" something that deviates from TCP.

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----==_mimepart_5f191b89545f0_7ee93fd4b60cd96834099-- From nobody Wed Jul 22 22:42:38 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFF73A0816 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:42:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RTXuxbFtdfZ5 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 765DA3A0813 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.61]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84090E045A for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:42:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595482954; bh=ogBcimnEW34A/OWJCYesz6SGIXyu50GaZsvAqiFHhuE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=BU6MZDXQOSMSLephsQAddnwoWS3NiShaXwgY8g+pfR1HsJVSDaiPR/hKQ1l+ix42z d/UhW6uF2h8ozqnDytuO9vFHsgDmZjCcJNebisHiW2lpibPb1qiK6DkNjfYe51lDvy LCSB4QHsaN2/bK5QtNeuz4WuHw4rPZpfg7r26tV0= Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:42:34 -0700 From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Word-smithed version of Ted's resolution to #3842 from the mailing list (#3945) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f19234a7439c_19833fe0c6ecd95c477dc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 05:42:37 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f19234a7439c_19833fe0c6ecd95c477dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3945 -- Commit Summary -- * Word-smithed version of Ted's resolution to #3842 from the mailing list -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (15) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3945.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3945.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3945 ----==_mimepart_5f19234a7439c_19833fe0c6ecd95c477dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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FYI, I've written up Ted's suggestion from the mailing list as #3945 (with some word-smithing)

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I can see that you might want to forego an a-priory key and pay 1200 bytes once to get a 0-RTT token.
But the 1200 initial bytes still holds for 0-RTT, no?

A low power device will frequently go to sleep, and might exceed to the idle timeout of the server (although the server might want to reconsider its timeout in that case).

I could also see a client generating its own 0-RTT token based on a-priory keys and this way get around the 1200 bytes if 0-RTT permitted that.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -determination will be imperfect.  If the determination is incorrect, the
-congestion controller and the RTT estimator are expected to adapt to the new
-path.  Generally, implementations are advised to be cautious when using previous
-values on a new path.

I think we should retain some of this to deal with the bit where people decide to ignore the "SHOULD".

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QUIC still requires that the datagram be 1200 bytes, but most of that 1200 can be 0-RTT payload (after you include a token, session ticket, TLS key share, transport parameters, etc..).

A new protocol specialized to this can define a different minimum packet size. That can be QUIC-compatible if it wants to be. For such a constrained deployment, that might be a good choice.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -determination will be imperfect.  If the determination is incorrect, the
-congestion controller and the RTT estimator are expected to adapt to the new
-path.  Generally, implementations are advised to be cautious when using previous
-values on a new path.

Thanks. Tried to address this in the current revision to the text.

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----==_mimepart_5f1947d7dd7b0_5a823f9c662cd96c686cd-- From nobody Thu Jul 23 01:23:52 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A402F3A0A3F for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 01:23:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cPskHm6jLALP for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 01:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66FFC3A0A3E for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 01:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-d31a065.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d31a065.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA39340E2D for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 01:23:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595492628; bh=tMZ9U7kVSs7ENn3u3NVtY6NvtIR7+2y/RybM36pVSn8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=VCu93C93EdUV4ehukAH1ebsm5KzzdQR2JeVux2EWnLPAgmCNSscaAYL2CvIOxNntP lDOKNu0nKaXv7zcDs/TxUSuzbrPpsFdbr18yILaWjxbDD7HqNE4uF0Q0u+o2trkMfg zn3ySgxcHUneFnJUP0Jpf7tMANAUJCYsGsDxLj+Y= Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 01:23:48 -0700 From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fix spelling and style consistency nits (#3949) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1949148afe4_60f13fcadaacd96c82741"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 08:23:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1949148afe4_60f13fcadaacd96c82741 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3949 -- Commit Summary -- * Fix spelling and style consistency nits -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (4) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3949.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3949.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3949 ----==_mimepart_5f1949148afe4_60f13fcadaacd96c82741 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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One issue I bumped on is whether/when the ACK delay is relevant to a particular timer. This seemed somewhat inconsistent to me in the code, so I dug through the recovery spec and found the following: * [Time Treshold](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html#time-threshold) for detecting packet loss says the time threshold is `max(kTimeThreshold * max(smoothed_rtt, latest_rtt), kGranularity)`, so it does not include the ACK delay. This seems surprising to me, as the ACK delay seems highly relevant in this case... * [Idle Timeout](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#name-idle-timeout) says "To avoid excessively small idle timeout periods, endpoints MUST increase the idle timeout period to be at least three times the current Probe Timeout (PTO)."; it seems like the ACK delay is relevant here: we wouldn't want to consider a connection idle if we haven't received ACKs because they are delayed. * [Failed Path Validation](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#name-failed-path-validation) says `validation_timeout = max(3*PTO, 6*kInitialRtt)`. However, path validation should be based on a `PATH_RESPONSE` frame, not an `ACK` frame, so including the `max_ack_delay` here doesn't seem relevant from first principles. * [Closing And Draining Connection States](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#name-closing-and-draining-connec) says "These states SHOULD persist for at least three times the current Probe Timeout (PTO) interval as defined in [QUIC-RECOVERY].", so I think this should keep the ACK delay as well. So concrete questions I came up with: * Should the packet loss detection threshold take the `max_ack_delay` into account somehow? * Should the failed path validation timeout use a different calculation that doesn't include `max_ack_delay`? * For closing/draining connection timers, does it make sense to include the `max_ack_delay`? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In djc/quinn#815, I've been going through the handling of PTO and other timer-related code in the Quinn implementation to make sure that it is consistent and compliant with the spec. One issue I bumped on is whether/when the ACK delay is relevant to a particular timer. This seemed somewhat inconsistent to me in the code, so I dug through the recovery spec and found the following:

  • Time Treshold for detecting packet loss says the time threshold is max(kTimeThreshold * max(smoothed_rtt, latest_rtt), kGranularity), so it does not include the ACK delay. This seems surprising to me, as the ACK delay seems highly relevant in this case...

  • Idle Timeout says "To avoid excessively small idle timeout periods, endpoints MUST increase the idle timeout period to be at least three times the current Probe Timeout (PTO)."; it seems like the ACK delay is relevant here: we wouldn't want to consider a connection idle if we haven't received ACKs because they are delayed.

  • Failed Path Validation says validation_timeout = max(3*PTO, 6*kInitialRtt). However, path validation should be based on a PATH_RESPONSE frame, not an ACK frame, so including the max_ack_delay here doesn't seem relevant from first principles.

  • Closing And Draining Connection States says "These states SHOULD persist for at least three times the current Probe Timeout (PTO) interval as defined in [QUIC-RECOVERY].", so I think this should keep the ACK delay as well.

So concrete questions I came up with:

  • Should the packet loss detection threshold take the max_ack_delay into account somehow?
  • Should the failed path validation timeout use a different calculation that doesn't include max_ack_delay?
  • For closing/draining connection timers, does it make sense to include the max_ack_delay?

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1165,10 +1165,11 @@ desired. They MAY also be sent on connections where no data is currently being
 transferred. Endpoints MUST NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon
 receipt.
 
-The payload and length of the stream are selected in any manner the
-implementation chooses.  Implementations MAY terminate these streams cleanly, or
-MAY abruptly terminate them.  When terminating abruptly, the error code
-H3_NO_ERROR or a reserved error code ({{http-error-codes}}) SHOULD be used.
+The payload and length of the stream are selected in any manner the sending
+implementation chooses.  When sending a reserved stream type, the implementation
+MAY either terminate the stream cleanly or reset it.  When resetting the stream,

On the sender side, though, either is an explicit action; it's not something you just allow to happen.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -2406,7 +2416,7 @@ INADEQUATE_SECURITY (0xc):
 : Not applicable, since QUIC is assumed to provide sufficient security on all
   connections.
 
-H3_1_1_REQUIRED (0xd):
+HTTP_1_1_REQUIRED (0xd):

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The current structure is incorrect, because application error codes is a
subsection of transport error codes, despite application error codes
being disjoint from transport error codes.

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The application may reset a stream, for example, when a browser tab is
closed or when the pushed resource is found in cache. It might close
the connection when the application is closed. These are not errors per
se, even though the term "stream error" and "connection error" is used
for these events, and they have an associated "error code".

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  • Application can reset stream or close connection even if no error occurs.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3667,12 +3667,12 @@ acknowledgements.
 
 An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between the time the
 packet with the largest packet number is received and the time an acknowledgment
-is sent.  The endpoint encodes this delay in the Ack Delay field of an ACK
+is sent.  The endpoint encodes this delay in the ACK Delay field of an ACK

I think that this is good.

However, some of the other uses here refer to a concept and that is tricky. We don't really define "ACK delay" as a concept and we probably should.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3720,7 +3720,7 @@ containing that information is acknowledged.
   unless the endpoint has sent a RESET_STREAM for that stream.  Once an endpoint
   sends a RESET_STREAM frame, no further STREAM frames are needed.
 
-* ACK frames carry the most recent set of acknowledgements and the Ack Delay
+* ACK frames carry the most recent set of acknowledgements and the ACK delay

This refers to the field so it should be "ACK Delay field"

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  the cost of lower resolution.  Because the receiver doesn't use the ACK delay
   for Initial and Handshake packets, a sender SHOULD send a value of 0.

This refers to the field, so it should be "ACK Delay field" again.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3509,7 +3509,7 @@ guidance offered below seeks to strike this balance.
 ### Sending ACK Frames {#sending-acknowledgements}
 
 Every packet SHOULD be acknowledged at least once, and ack-eliciting packets
-MUST be acknowledged at least once within the maximum ack delay. An endpoint
+MUST be acknowledged at least once within the maximum ACK delay. An endpoint

This looks like the only place we use "ACK delay" as a concept. We might be better referring to the max_ack_delay transport parameter.

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An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between the time the packet with the largest packet number is received and the time an acknowledgment -is sent. The endpoint encodes this delay in the Ack Delay field of an ACK +is sent. The endpoint encodes this delay in the ACK Delay field of an ACK The principle that I thought was used elsewhere, and which I tried to apply here, was to call it "ACK Delay" when talking about the frame field, and "ACK delay" otherwise. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3946#discussion_r459511771 ----==_mimepart_5f19a4c768b25_c0a3fc6334cd964631be Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3667,12 +3667,12 @@ acknowledgements.
 
 An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between the time the
 packet with the largest packet number is received and the time an acknowledgment
-is sent.  The endpoint encodes this delay in the Ack Delay field of an ACK
+is sent.  The endpoint encodes this delay in the ACK Delay field of an ACK

The principle that I thought was used elsewhere, and which I tried to apply here, was to call it "ACK Delay" when talking about the frame field, and "ACK delay" otherwise.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3720,7 +3720,7 @@ containing that information is acknowledged.
   unless the endpoint has sent a RESET_STREAM for that stream.  Once an endpoint
   sends a RESET_STREAM frame, no further STREAM frames are needed.
 
-* ACK frames carry the most recent set of acknowledgements and the Ack Delay
+* ACK frames carry the most recent set of acknowledgements and the ACK delay

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  the cost of lower resolution.  Because the receiver doesn't use the ACK delay
   for Initial and Handshake packets, a sender SHOULD send a value of 0.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3509,7 +3509,7 @@ guidance offered below seeks to strike this balance.
 ### Sending ACK Frames {#sending-acknowledgements}
 
 Every packet SHOULD be acknowledged at least once, and ack-eliciting packets
-MUST be acknowledged at least once within the maximum ack delay. An endpoint
+MUST be acknowledged at least once within the maximum ACK delay. An endpoint

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3720,7 +3720,7 @@ containing that information is acknowledged.
   unless the endpoint has sent a RESET_STREAM for that stream.  Once an endpoint
   sends a RESET_STREAM frame, no further STREAM frames are needed.
 
-* ACK frames carry the most recent set of acknowledgements and the Ack Delay
+* ACK frames carry the most recent set of acknowledgements and the ACK delay

Actually, this seems to refer to the value, not the field. ("ACK frames carry" the value.)

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I am comfortable with this discrepancy (or all three).

The loss detection threshold is based on observing a gap, so it only applies when there is an obligation to acknowledge immediately if the ACK is received. Thus the max_ack_delay doesn't apply.

The failed path validation timeout simply uses a value that allows for some loss and a response. Any value suffices here, but this value ensures that there is ample opportunity to get a response back.

The closing and draining states follow similar logic to path validation. Any value would suffice, and in this case the goal is only to avoid silly values being set and connections timing out before you give PTO a chance to repair losses.

(I just successfully simulated a handshake with a 25s RTT, 10% loss, and a 30s idle timeout. This last safeguard is relevant there as long as you avoid an idle timeout that is less than the RTT.)

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

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No, just simple conflict in requirements within the text. If Name is optional, then it can't be a MUST include it. If it MUST be included, it's not optional.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  
 SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE:
 : QUIC requires both stream and connection flow control window sizes to be
-  specified in the initial transport handshake.  Specifying
-  SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE in the SETTINGS frame is an error.
+  specified in the initial transport handshake.  Specifying the
+  SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE parameter in the SETTINGS frame is an error.

Section 6.5 of RFC 7540:

The SETTINGS frame (type=0x4) conveys configuration parameters that
affect how endpoints communicate, such as preferences and constraints
on peer behavior. The SETTINGS frame is also used to acknowledge the
receipt of those parameters. Individually, a SETTINGS parameter can
also be referred to as a "setting".

But good point that these values aren't defined in this document; I'll reword that.

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We explicitly discuss what the behavior should be for H2 frame types that don't have corresponding H3 frames. The same sort of reservation with IANA is done with settings, but isn't explicitly stated in the definition of SETTINGS.

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Arguably editorial, since the text in the Appendix clearly implies this was already intended to be the case, but fixing entails new MUST and MAY statements.

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Fixes #3954 by copying the la= nguage we already had for frame types and taking @martinthom= son's suggestion from #3942.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

>  
 SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE:
 : QUIC requires both stream and connection flow control window sizes to be
-  specified in the initial transport handshake.  Specifying
-  SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE in the SETTINGS frame is an error.
+  specified in the initial transport handshake.  Specifying the
+  SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE parameter in the SETTINGS frame is an error.

This is now #3954.

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----==_mimepart_5f19b5376306d_220c3fe1e94cd960278517-- From nobody Thu Jul 23 09:10:39 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE4E3A0BA5 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:10:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=2.059, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EaJljVMKVeP1 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38DE03A0BA4 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-d31a065.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d31a065.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48159E1896 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:10:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595520636; bh=og0OaMbRiTd8XRd1F5WV2u47h7BCi96miP3XlECZP6g=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mBzc4pcnnaZ908//MrampKGVpVItaSEUalhJG1jfFlEnfQkTSSBObHpCSJPC5GXWX 8vdnS5BumOZZ68/2pHIp6mQA6umNFiPKb5D0rbeVFqg1mOmn+pvI12bkKgZfTv3p4C kDcG5JsZ12ggVi8nnTEQBsdzXYwTprJ1mKcK+jr4= Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:10:36 -0700 From: ekr Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Word-smithed version of Ted's resolution to #3842 from the mailing list (#3945) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f19b67c39905_55763fe5b90cd968598133"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekr X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:10:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f19b67c39905_55763fe5b90cd968598133 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This LGTM and would address my concern. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3945#issuecomment-663095419 ----==_mimepart_5f19b67c39905_55763fe5b90cd968598133 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This LGTM and would address my concern.

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----==_mimepart_5f19b67c39905_55763fe5b90cd968598133-- From nobody Thu Jul 23 10:25:58 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B713A0B21 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:25:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jTl611NCEAN0 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 621163A0BF3 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-e8b54ca.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-e8b54ca.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.39]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916598C0A58 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:25:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595525155; bh=HWpBkcEt+5X+AlZsiPiSa14/DcjWfHsl8i0WMvVK+Ds=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XqgsV6WRevzKAkIsFMhTABS4jKgRn4lO9wC0V4GJyX/Me4cgtXkkqLvQLqxnfFBZI 2fFVkt38anqcWTmSVK+Wlz5us8ms+ynkch77R4pEI+ksG33NudOvjKh2MCVcX0kmW9 +nCFYcczi5rRqqVhuLx6bfpfi3F9rfZeQ9LTbMRE= Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:25:55 -0700 From: Benjamin Saunders Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Including ACK delay in packet loss detection time threshold (#3951) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f19c82381521_50783f86b38cd95c1167bb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: Ralith X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 17:25:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f19c82381521_50783f86b38cd95c1167bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While in a typical case the inclusion/omission does seem insignificant, `max_ack_delay` can take values over 16 *seconds*, leading to a quite noticable impact in behavior. If that's nonetheless deemed within reasonable bounds, I think it'd be helpful to have an explicit statement of intent in the text stating that the inclusion of `max_ack_delay` in non-ACK-related timers is for simplicity. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3951#issuecomment-663132990 ----==_mimepart_5f19c82381521_50783f86b38cd95c1167bb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

While in a typical case the inclusion/omission does seem insignificant, max_ack_delay can take values over 16 seconds, leading to a quite noticable impact in behavior. If that's nonetheless deemed within reasonable bounds, I think it'd be helpful to have an explicit statement of intent in the text stating that the inclusion of max_ack_delay in non-ACK-related timers is for simplicity.

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@janaiyengar I can make a PR if you're ok

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I would suggest not making this change. This is a case where I believe implementations typically use CWND and not flightsize, and we should make the same choice.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about what implementations do.

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I can at least change this to ack-eliciting -- that's a simple editorial change. That was the intent anyway. If we want to change the way persistent congestion is established, that's a bigger issue, so let's separate that issue from this one.

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One nit, but I'm happy with this resolution.

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Thanks, Lars, a few suggestions. > @@ -3667,12 +3667,12 @@ acknowledgements. An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between the time the packet with the largest packet number is received and the time an acknowledgment -is sent. The endpoint encodes this delay in the Ack Delay field of an ACK +is sent. The endpoint encodes this delay in the ACK Delay field of an ACK We shouldn't use "ACK delay" without defining it, and if we do, I would suggest using "acknowledgement delay" instead. > @@ -3667,12 +3667,12 @@ acknowledgements. An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between the time the packet with the largest packet number is received and the time an acknowledgment -is sent. The endpoint encodes this delay in the Ack Delay field of an ACK +is sent. The endpoint encodes this delay in the ACK Delay field of an ACK frame; see {{frame-ack}}. This allows the receiver of the ACK to adjust for any ```suggestion frame; see {{frame-ack}}. This allows the receiver of the ACK frame to adjust for any ``` > @@ -3720,7 +3720,7 @@ containing that information is acknowledged. unless the endpoint has sent a RESET_STREAM for that stream. Once an endpoint sends a RESET_STREAM frame, no further STREAM frames are needed. -* ACK frames carry the most recent set of acknowledgements and the Ack Delay +* ACK frames carry the most recent set of acknowledgements and the ACK delay how about "and the acknowledgement delay from the largest acknowledged packet ({{host-delay}})" ? > @@ -5284,8 +5284,9 @@ ACK Delay: to the power of the value of the ack_delay_exponent transport parameter set by the sender of the ACK frame; see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}. Scaling in this fashion allows for a larger range of values with a shorter encoding at - the cost of lower resolution. Because the receiver doesn't use the ACK Delay - for Initial and Handshake packets, a sender SHOULD send a value of 0. + the cost of lower resolution. Because the receiver doesn't use the value in + the ACK Delay field for Initial and Handshake packets, a sender SHOULD send a ```suggestion the ACK Delay field of Initial and Handshake packets, a sender SHOULD send a ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3946#pullrequestreview-454479546 ----==_mimepart_5f19f9ae6666b_7ab93fe158acd9643988a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1395,6 +1395,10 @@ settings to have any meaning upon receipt.
 Because the setting has no defined meaning, the value of the setting can be any
 value the implementation selects.
 
+Setting identifiers which were used in HTTP/2 where there is no corresponding
+HTTP/3 setting have also been reserved ({{iana-settings}}). These settings MUST
+NOT be sent, and receipt MAY be treated as an error of type H3_SETTINGS_ERROR.

The MAY here could lead to confusion down the road. Is there any reason for us to not be prescriptive here? I think it would be safer to clearly have either MUST treat as error or MUST ignore here.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -2316,20 +2320,26 @@ SETTINGS_HEADER_TABLE_SIZE:
 
 SETTINGS_ENABLE_PUSH:
 : This is removed in favor of the MAX_PUSH_ID which provides a more granular
-  control over server push.
+  control over server push.  Specifying a setting with the identifier 0x2

Could we instead phrase these as normative? For example: Endpoints MUST NOT send a setting with identifier 0x2 (corresponding to the SETTINGS_ENABLE_PUSH parameter) in the HTTP/3 SETTINGS frame.

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@ianswett : you are right. I had thought that this is what Linux did but I was wrong. After chatting with Yuchung a bit, it's become clear to me that this is ok.

So, the reason to consider doing this change is because you might have a situation where the cwnd is 100 packets, but you have sent 10; reducing the cwnd from 100 to 50 is not meaningful, because the actual network load was 10 packets.

On the other hand, if you sent 100 packets, and the loss happened at packet 95, the flightsize now is 4, causing the cwnd to become 2. That does not make sense either.

If there is in fact congestion in the application limited case with a large cwnd (the first case above), there will be losses in subsequent rounds, causing the cwnd to eventually come down within a few RTTs, by halving each RTT. Reducing the cwnd to a very small number on the other hand (the second case above) means that the connection has to potentially go through many RTTs to increase, since the increase is a linear 1 per RTT.

There is a way to do this correctly: to track what was in flight when a given packet was sent, so that on loss, you use the appropriate flightsize. But that is quite a departure from the simple Reno algorithm.

On balance, I now think we should keep what we have. I know this is a departure from RFC 5681, but I think that's ok, and we have a convincing argument as to why it is.

I'll leave this issue open for a bit for others to comment, but I'm happy with closing this issue with no action.

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I should note that both the Reno and Cubic implementations in Linux use cwnd/2.

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+1 to retaining status quo, based on the view that there is a "bug" in what RFC 5681 does (the 100 packet case that @janaiyengar points out), in addition to what linux has been doing.

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----==_mimepart_5f1a33d79512a_7343fb9858cd95c122636-- From nobody Thu Jul 23 18:16:04 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F363A079A for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 18:16:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yUbK1J3Bpxeg for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 18:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DEC73A079B for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 18:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c53a806.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.23.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94AA7520EAB for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 18:15:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595553359; bh=EiEM7gbs5bJU2lSRMffphzSZr0Q/X3RQwAaU3WPXI5w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=j0vEwXR3+Avj4uvCcj74UpfTOW44KzfAgMuD5ObJmbHfptTudZ9KQEy/F1Cv/DpBM fJs1fm1iYYOPPRuWkEtItNQxCeuMUua3Q74d4UqE7ucBFY91aNqzf99xue9q0q5SLX 4GxKjYsL45t6NmfFhCNEEnRqj2hGgfsVI8DqKTOw= Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 18:15:59 -0700 From: Junho Choi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Congestion window reduction should be based on size of inflight (#3943) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1a364f8666d_6fe73faa150cd95c106269"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: junhochoi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 01:16:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1a364f8666d_6fe73faa150cd95c106269 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit seems like freebsd newreno also does cwnd/2. > On the other hand, if you sent 100 packets, and the loss happened at packet 95, the flightsize now is 4, causing the cwnd to become 2. That does not make sense either. Just thinking how this is possible? assuming cwnd=100, I think knowing packet 95 is lost without receiving ack of 0-95 is not realistic, so flightsize will be much higher than 4. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3943#issuecomment-663306807 ----==_mimepart_5f1a364f8666d_6fe73faa150cd95c106269 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

seems like freebsd newreno also does cwnd/2.

On the other hand, if you sent 100 packets, and the loss happened at packet 95, the flightsize now is 4, causing the cwnd to become 2. That does not make sense either.
Just thinking how this is possible? assuming cwnd=100, I think knowing packet 95 is lost without receiving ack of 0-95 is not realistic, so flightsize will be much higher than 4.

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Also, RFC5681 3.1 has the following text, indicating we need to consider receiver window too?

Implementation Note: An easy mistake to make is to simply use cwnd,
rather than FlightSize, which in some implementations may
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By design, TCP is capable of handling late-arriving acks. If a TCP endpoint receives an ack for a byte range after declaring loss of that byte range, retransmission of that byte range is cancelled.

In contrast, QUIC uses monotonically increasing packet numbers. That is definitely an improvement, but does have a downside. If loss detection is too sensitive, and if endpoints drop information regarding what had been sent in a packet at the moment that packet is declared lost, then it would not recognize the late acks.

I think that we should suggest (even if not recommend) QUIC endpoints to recognize late-arriving acks, so that our loss detection can be as aggressive and as effective as TCP, if not better.

(Please let me know if such text already exists. I am opening the issue because I could not find one)

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----==_mimepart_5f1a3a677ce23_7ccb3f974fecd96836927d-- From nobody Thu Jul 23 19:07:16 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0213A0789 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 19:07:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O7e7IstQVdvc for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 19:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E0693A0787 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 19:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.57]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99302840DDC for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 19:07:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595556432; bh=cLAW8o19T62cbWwzIXW4Nuvbuy5fvP4NyVsxv60py9I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=OBWqhyjUOEeFN4luea54SzwjILnErxRbTZFOnIGXYjLuU08utho7xDieWbliTKfIn mma6aRhSdRtctwVtFLDzndjZGw79LN0Xwq6/ZIS7C/HKsrjQDGHzYerQl9N+9HGLag d3hN4k4rMddjEdCCkX2iqEfB50dDCycvJKX6p6/4= Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 19:07:12 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Suggest endpoints may recognize acks after loss is declared (#3956) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1a425089a5d_79293fea7cecd960178948"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 02:07:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1a425089a5d_79293fea7cecd960178948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to agree. We had to implement late acknowledgment by marking "lost" packets and retaining them. I believe that this was very helpful in reducing the amount of redundant information we send. Failing to retain packets that were marked as lost was also the cause of a bug. As the lost packet was removed from our outstanding calculation (a different value to the "in-flight" counter we use for congestion control), we believed that there were no packets outstanding and we didn't try to send anything when the next PTO fired. As the loss detection timer is shorter than the PTO timer, we believed that there was nothing to send often (and we don't check all sources of frames, which would have told us otherwise). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3956#issuecomment-663316576 ----==_mimepart_5f1a425089a5d_79293fea7cecd960178948 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I have to agree. We had to implement late acknowledgment by marking "lost" packets and retaining them. I believe that this was very helpful in reducing the amount of redundant information we send.

Failing to retain packets that were marked as lost was also the cause of a bug. As the lost packet was removed from our outstanding calculation (a different value to the "in-flight" counter we use for congestion control), we believed that there were no packets outstanding and we didn't try to send anything when the next PTO fired. As the loss detection timer is shorter than the PTO timer, we believed that there was nothing to send often (and we don't check all sources of frames, which would have told us otherwise).

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Agreed.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1580,14 +1586,18 @@ Invoked when an ACK frame with an ECN section is received from the peer.
 Invoked when DetectAndRemoveLostPackets deems packets lost.
 
 ~~~
-   InPersistentCongestion(lost_packets):
+   InPersistentCongestion(largest_lost):
+     // Persistent congestion cannot be declared on the
+     // first RTT sample.
+     if (is first RTT sample):
+       return false

Discussed offline with @janaiyengar, it has turned out that the approach of tweaking the definion of edges does not work well, because the edges (from current time) can be any packet, while RTT can only be established with an ack-eliciting packet.

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You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3957 -- Commit Summary -- * retain info on lost packets -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (8) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3957.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3957.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3957 ----==_mimepart_5f1a4e4c2161b_29663faded2cd96017765c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Closes #3956.

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  • retain info on lost packets

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----==_mimepart_5f1a4e4c2161b_29663faded2cd96017765c-- From nobody Thu Jul 23 19:59:24 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63763A07ED for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 19:59:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ynrfn3VrX7Tw for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 19:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C40693A07CB for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 19:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.108.24]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171C95C0DE4 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 19:59:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595559561; bh=Hhmn+LmM7RKMXf9JeCCdYXGLw2YV/R43OD3naLWM20c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=n9t1hQs0kW+ZRlmK9iQLqAVoGGY+QOn4QJzbfEB0UD0ZJKap2h11PVABZbXNRNGBY BjDYPbmF84jZ7rgdzu6sLDrudtIHhrk+KX3Yiua9w43+q8pB4UwAk3lXfF0U2Ps96h 3P+tPpMNKzE3oGQA0iTpdSzrkT3kRGPoli+cF2wM= Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 19:59:21 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] No RTT samples, no persistent congestion (#3889) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1a4e897609_294e3faded2cd9601270b1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 02:59:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1a4e897609_294e3faded2cd9601270b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My reaction is the same as @mjoras. I had to think a few times over to make sure that this was adequate, and I believe it is. It covers an egregious case explicitly, which is important. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3889#issuecomment-663326035 ----==_mimepart_5f1a4e897609_294e3faded2cd9601270b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

My reaction is the same as @mjoras. I had to think a few times over to make sure that this was adequate, and I believe it is. It covers an egregious case explicitly, which is important.

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I don't think that is an issue as such. The point of the note was, I suspect, to say that the cwnd might be even larger than the rwnd. That's not a problem for us ... since we don't really have the concept of an rwnd. Ours is a changing credit, and in TCP terms, it reflects a dynamic rwnd value.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1165,10 +1165,11 @@ desired. They MAY also be sent on connections where no data is currently being
 transferred. Endpoints MUST NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon
 receipt.
 
-The payload and length of the stream are selected in any manner the
-implementation chooses.  Implementations MAY terminate these streams cleanly, or
-MAY abruptly terminate them.  When terminating abruptly, the error code
-H3_NO_ERROR or a reserved error code ({{http-error-codes}}) SHOULD be used.
+The payload and length of the stream are selected in any manner the sending
+implementation chooses.  When sending a reserved stream type, the implementation
+MAY either terminate the stream cleanly or reset it.  When resetting the stream,

@martinthomson : Is your point that terminating cleanly is application action where resetting is transport action?

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1165,10 +1165,11 @@ desired. They MAY also be sent on connections where no data is currently being
 transferred. Endpoints MUST NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon
 receipt.
 
-The payload and length of the stream are selected in any manner the
-implementation chooses.  Implementations MAY terminate these streams cleanly, or
-MAY abruptly terminate them.  When terminating abruptly, the error code
-H3_NO_ERROR or a reserved error code ({{http-error-codes}}) SHOULD be used.
+The payload and length of the stream are selected in any manner the sending
+implementation chooses.  When sending a reserved stream type, the implementation
+MAY either terminate the stream cleanly or reset it.  When resetting the stream,

As a receiver you have to let the stream terminate cleanly, the only other action available is a stream reset.

Presumably the sender knows what they are doing, so I wanted to concentrate on the reaction the receiver might have.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3667,12 +3667,12 @@ acknowledgements.
 
 An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between the time the
 packet with the largest packet number is received and the time an acknowledgment
-is sent.  The endpoint encodes this delay in the Ack Delay field of an ACK
+is sent.  The endpoint encodes this delay in the ACK Delay field of an ACK

Applying Jana's change.

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  • 0b04498 ACK delay -> acknowledgement delay (ACK Delay always refers to the field)

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +When a sender declares a packet as lost and either retransmits the contained
+frames or marks them for retransmission, the sender SHOULD avoid subsequent
+retransmission of this information if it later receives an acknowledgement for
+that packet. Doing so requires senders to retain information about packets after
+they are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of
+time elapses, such as three times the PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or
+on other events, such as reaching a memory limit.

I think I like @martinthomson's idea of splitting the sentence into two. The only thing I might prefer is changing the last part of the second sentence "after receiving a late acknowledgement" to something like "after receiving such an acknowledgement" to make it clearer, but anyways it's good.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +the entire connection; see Sections 2.4 and 5.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  This
+is referred to as a "stream error" or "connection error" (see
+Section 11 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) and has an associated error code, but does not
+necessarily have to be an error.  For example, a stream can be reset if the
+requested resource is no longer needed.

I'm accepting your suggestion but also pluralizing "stream error" and "connection error" (which incidentally were already plural before this PR).

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@bencebeky commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +Section 11 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) and has an associated error code, but does not
+necessarily have to be an error.  For example, a stream can be reset if the

I agree with you. My interpretation is that the source of strangeness is calling these stream errors and connection errors in the first place, and calling their reason codes error codes. This way "error" becomes a technical term defined in this document, which does not align with my mental model of what an error is: entry found is cache or user closing a tab or navigating away is clearly not an error, but the specs treat it is a stream error and assign an error code to it.

Unfortunately I cannot think of a less weird way of phrasing it. "Do not necessarily have to be abnormal events or protocol violations."?

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +Section 11 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) and has an associated error code, but does not
+necessarily have to be an error.  For example, a stream can be reset if the

While I agree that it sounds a bit strange, I think the current text is no more confusing as the NO_ERROR error code that we have in the transport draft.

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max_ack_delay isn't included in time threshold loss detection because the transport document says you need to acknowledge packets which were previously missing immediately and that out of order packets are acknowledged immediately. So not including it is because it's not necessary to include it, and including it would slow down loss detection, in some cases substantially.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1395,6 +1395,10 @@ settings to have any meaning upon receipt.
 Because the setting has no defined meaning, the value of the setting can be any
 value the implementation selects.
 
+Setting identifiers which were used in HTTP/2 where there is no corresponding
+HTTP/3 setting have also been reserved ({{iana-settings}}). These settings MUST
+NOT be sent, and receipt MAY be treated as an error of type H3_SETTINGS_ERROR.

We've used MUST NOT send / MAY error elsewhere when we haven't wanted to mandate checking. It's enough of a deterrent to the bad behavior, when the requirement to treat as an error isn't vital to interop. That said, it also isn't difficult to do the check, so if there's consensus to require it, I'm not opposed to the suggestion.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -2316,20 +2320,26 @@ SETTINGS_HEADER_TABLE_SIZE:
 
 SETTINGS_ENABLE_PUSH:
 : This is removed in favor of the MAX_PUSH_ID which provides a more granular
-  control over server push.
+  control over server push.  Specifying a setting with the identifier 0x2

Nothing in this appendix is normative, by design. The normative requirement is in the body of the document, and this appendix simply notes that there is a prohibition. I could add a reference to the prohibition, if that would help.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1165,10 +1165,11 @@ desired. They MAY also be sent on connections where no data is currently being
 transferred. Endpoints MUST NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon
 receipt.
 
-The payload and length of the stream are selected in any manner the
-implementation chooses.  Implementations MAY terminate these streams cleanly, or
-MAY abruptly terminate them.  When terminating abruptly, the error code
-H3_NO_ERROR or a reserved error code ({{http-error-codes}}) SHOULD be used.
+The payload and length of the stream are selected in any manner the sending
+implementation chooses.  When sending a reserved stream type, the implementation
+MAY either terminate the stream cleanly or reset it.  When resetting the stream,

The generic advice we give for unknown stream types (which this should be) is to reply with a STOP_SENDING. On the receiver side, you shouldn't be identifying these as grease streams.

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Thanks for adding this, some more comments. > @@ -3804,6 +3804,14 @@ number length, connection ID length, and path MTU. A receiver MUST accept packets containing an outdated frame, such as a MAX_DATA frame carrying a smaller maximum data than one found in an older packet. +When a sender declares a packet as lost and either retransmits the contained +frames or marks them for retransmission, the sender SHOULD avoid subsequent +retransmission of this information if it later receives an acknowledgement for +that packet. Doing so requires senders to retain information about packets after +they are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of +time elapses, such as three times the PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or 3*PTO is really long in this case, and it can consume a fair bit of memory depending upon implementation details. I'd suggest an ~RTT, since by that point you're expecting the acknowledgement of the retransmitted data. > +When a sender declares a packet as lost and either retransmits the contained +frames or marks them for retransmission, the sender SHOULD avoid subsequent +retransmission of this information if it later receives an acknowledgement for +that packet. Doing so requires senders to retain information about packets after +they are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of +time elapses, such as three times the PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or +on other events, such as reaching a memory limit. How about "..after receiving an acknowledgement for a previously lost packet." I think late acknowledgement is potentially confusing. > +When a sender declares a packet as lost and either retransmits the contained +frames or marks them for retransmission, the sender SHOULD avoid subsequent +retransmission of this information if it later receives an acknowledgement for +that packet. Doing so requires senders to retain information about packets after +they are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of +time elapses, such as three times the PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or +on other events, such as reaching a memory limit. And how about starting with "A packet can be acknowledged after being declared lost." instead of "Acknowledgements can be received after a sender declares a packet as lost." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

Thanks for adding this, some more comments.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3804,6 +3804,14 @@ number length, connection ID length, and path MTU.  A receiver MUST accept
 packets containing an outdated frame, such as a MAX_DATA frame carrying a
 smaller maximum data than one found in an older packet.
 
+When a sender declares a packet as lost and either retransmits the contained
+frames or marks them for retransmission, the sender SHOULD avoid subsequent
+retransmission of this information if it later receives an acknowledgement for
+that packet. Doing so requires senders to retain information about packets after
+they are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of
+time elapses, such as three times the PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or

3*PTO is really long in this case, and it can consume a fair bit of memory depending upon implementation details. I'd suggest an ~RTT, since by that point you're expecting the acknowledgement of the retransmitted data.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +When a sender declares a packet as lost and either retransmits the contained
+frames or marks them for retransmission, the sender SHOULD avoid subsequent
+retransmission of this information if it later receives an acknowledgement for
+that packet. Doing so requires senders to retain information about packets after
+they are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of
+time elapses, such as three times the PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or
+on other events, such as reaching a memory limit.

How about "..after receiving an acknowledgement for a previously lost packet." I think late acknowledgement is potentially confusing.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +When a sender declares a packet as lost and either retransmits the contained
+frames or marks them for retransmission, the sender SHOULD avoid subsequent
+retransmission of this information if it later receives an acknowledgement for
+that packet. Doing so requires senders to retain information about packets after
+they are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of
+time elapses, such as three times the PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or
+on other events, such as reaching a memory limit.

And how about starting with "A packet can be acknowledged after being declared lost." instead of "Acknowledgements can be received after a sender declares a packet as lost."

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -2316,20 +2320,26 @@ SETTINGS_HEADER_TABLE_SIZE:
 
 SETTINGS_ENABLE_PUSH:
 : This is removed in favor of the MAX_PUSH_ID which provides a more granular
-  control over server push.
+  control over server push.  Specifying a setting with the identifier 0x2

A reference to the prohibition works for me, I just want to make sure we have text somewhere clearly stating that endpoints MUST NOT send those

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3804,6 +3804,14 @@ number length, connection ID length, and path MTU.  A receiver MUST accept
 packets containing an outdated frame, such as a MAX_DATA frame carrying a
 smaller maximum data than one found in an older packet.
 
+When a sender declares a packet as lost and either retransmits the contained
+frames or marks them for retransmission, the sender SHOULD avoid subsequent
+retransmission of this information if it later receives an acknowledgement for
+that packet. Doing so requires senders to retain information about packets after
+they are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of
+time elapses, such as three times the PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or

Generally speaking, I tend to think that 3*PTO is fine, and that is because the size of a sentmap entry (i.e., the amount of memory required to remember what was sent in a packet) is only a tiny fraction of the MTU.

If your send buffer is capable of retaining X packets amount of data, then it does not matter if you use one tiny fraction, two tiny fractions, or three, for sentmap.

All that said, I agree that it might sound a bit frightening, it does not need to be as long as 3PTO, and therefore my view is that this is a trade-off issue between simplicity (i.e. reusing 3PTO timer) vs. less frightening.

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

I've rewritten the long sentence based on feedback

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3804,6 +3804,14 @@ number length, connection ID length, and path MTU.  A receiver MUST accept
 packets containing an outdated frame, such as a MAX_DATA frame carrying a
 smaller maximum data than one found in an older packet.
 
+When a sender declares a packet as lost and either retransmits the contained
+frames or marks them for retransmission, the sender SHOULD avoid subsequent
+retransmission of this information if it later receives an acknowledgement for
+that packet. Doing so requires senders to retain information about packets after
+they are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of
+time elapses, such as three times the PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or

The PTO is the period of time that you expect the ack back by, not RTT.

It's true that 3 PTO is a conservative value, but, it's only on lost packets. When that's the uncommon case, it won't consume a lot of memory. When it's the common case, you're not sending a lot of packets anymore because the sender is in congestion, so it shouldn't also cause memory exhaustion.

Either way, this is a suggestion, not a recommendation.

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They MAY also be sent on connections where no data is currently being transferred. Endpoints MUST NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon receipt. -The payload and length of the stream are selected in any manner the -implementation chooses. Implementations MAY terminate these streams cleanly, or -MAY abruptly terminate them. When terminating abruptly, the error code -H3_NO_ERROR or a reserved error code ({{http-error-codes}}) SHOULD be used. +The payload and length of the stream are selected in any manner the sending +implementation chooses. When sending a reserved stream type, the implementation +MAY either terminate the stream cleanly or reset it. When resetting the stream, This is entirely about what the sender does, right? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1165,10 +1165,11 @@ desired. They MAY also be sent on connections where no data is currently being
 transferred. Endpoints MUST NOT consider these streams to have any meaning upon
 receipt.
 
-The payload and length of the stream are selected in any manner the
-implementation chooses.  Implementations MAY terminate these streams cleanly, or
-MAY abruptly terminate them.  When terminating abruptly, the error code
-H3_NO_ERROR or a reserved error code ({{http-error-codes}}) SHOULD be used.
+The payload and length of the stream are selected in any manner the sending
+implementation chooses.  When sending a reserved stream type, the implementation
+MAY either terminate the stream cleanly or reset it.  When resetting the stream,

This is entirely about what the sender does, right?

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The resolution in #3957 introduces a new recommendation for senders, so this ought to be considered a design issue if we're happy with that resolution.

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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Jul 24 18:33:01 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118DF3A0FC7 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 18:33:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oCbuPkxVfqFP for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 18:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E46DA3A0FC4 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 18:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-292e294.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-292e294.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.102.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132ED5E0F34 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 18:32:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595640778; bh=w5Oq01Lj39DKlrxkfAqHVojEPwtfPwhjNdMza5TiTIM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MMX0fHkTDTapZF571pcZ2wGYWbuo3PbIluo82enuWxO6UKlpILq9XlgXo9BeFf1hJ Xh2eSN3McE3PkHZWSfD6giZPxOP/Bxy6box5bk2sHJ5nfztfsCfTs0Y/eUhaYcZHG4 tKTplVcmWyWTpMsdCK3jp+hIOHJmkosPC9UCk/jE= Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 18:32:58 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] sender SHOULD limit bursts (#3936) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1b8bca4bc9_19623f9e8eecd9682633cd"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 01:33:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1b8bca4bc9_19623f9e8eecd9682633cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett : I don't think we are missing it. The PR says that you SHOULD pace or limit the burst size to IW at all times. Isn't that what you want -- to limit bursts to IW? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3936#issuecomment-663790868 ----==_mimepart_5f1b8bca4bc9_19623f9e8eecd9682633cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett : I don't think we are missing it. The PR says that you SHOULD pace or limit the burst size to IW at all times. Isn't that what you want -- to limit bursts to IW?

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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Jul 24 18:39:24 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9011A3A0FE4 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 18:39:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D7HV7lemZWq1 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 18:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-24.smtp.github.com (out-24.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.207]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DB923A0FE3 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 18:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-9bcb4a1.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.84]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6526C600E16 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 18:39:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595641160; bh=L1XVrRR6ndF2Gs/FgYRwCMp2/3rhpdUUGanCwn1+h9g=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=njG6jMDbhAiluYK+icqK/KpAhfbbnevXjtMT98kUjkzGrKjCsJnZ3gnw8JOjQ8V10 9gBbbvZFN7MBkwClFDRRPEIuYrJnGRDPy5qNAlv8EpHMhW925O+ZbfWInyDsr4jJyW YtoP5orrfy4i+kzXYR2C+tmRr9YizAOBnPCA1d+w= Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 18:39:20 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fix spelling and style consistency nits (#3946) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1b8d4855788_42ca3f8c1cacd964375447"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 01:39:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1b8d4855788_42ca3f8c1cacd964375447 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @janaiyengar commented on this pull request. > + indicated in the Largest Acknowledged field, was received by this peer. This + acknowledgement delay in the ACK Delay field is scaled by multiplying the + encoded value by 2 to the power of the value of the ack_delay_exponent + transport parameter set by the sender of the ACK frame; see + {{transport-parameter-definitions}}. Scaling in this fashion allows for a + larger range of values with a shorter encoding at the cost of lower + resolution. Because the receiver doesn't use the value in the ACK Delay field + of Initial and Handshake packets, a sender SHOULD send a value of 0. This text was already confusing, and probably needs more rework. For this PR though, I would suggest something like: "The ACK Delay field carries an encoded acknowledgement delay. The delay is decoded by multiplying the value in the ACK Delay field by 2 ..." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +  indicated in the Largest Acknowledged field, was received by this peer.  This
+  acknowledgement delay in the ACK Delay field is scaled by multiplying the
+  encoded value by 2 to the power of the value of the ack_delay_exponent
+  transport parameter set by the sender of the ACK frame; see
+  {{transport-parameter-definitions}}.  Scaling in this fashion allows for a
+  larger range of values with a shorter encoding at the cost of lower
+  resolution.  Because the receiver doesn't use the value in the ACK Delay field
+  of Initial and Handshake packets, a sender SHOULD send a value of 0.

This text was already confusing, and probably needs more rework. For this PR though, I would suggest something like: "The ACK Delay field carries an encoded acknowledgement delay. The delay is decoded by multiplying the value in the ACK Delay field by 2 ..."

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To clarify, this isn't a change in what we're describing, you just want to add normative language?

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----==_mimepart_5f1c8cf333cdd_36813ff8424cd964118659-- From nobody Sat Jul 25 12:53:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFC03A0A4A for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 12:53:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UMQevF3cKyl5 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 12:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E31E3A0A43 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 12:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1b8c660.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1b8c660.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D42E9025E1 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 12:52:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595706778; bh=W1UxYQO5/cSi3zGzKIVbs5DopBZsCcNlL9+ydYaUYTA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oHS7PAslLg7XN3KavbUK4VEKcXBElyeeZQqzXveZC6zO9FmNzvENWkYL+IJ+KZBeB YmVg8/O7dv9SbclyrXz9j9B3IAyKebG5fAQl8OCYT9YmcvGD5RFdjcwRvO8W6yG2py FQPvuGK/+L18xx8id0ibCRHnTCROsiE96FcD+o1c= Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 12:52:58 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] MUST requirement on bursts smaller than IW is too restrictive (#3892) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1c8d9a6d58d_754d3f84b5acd964148728"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 19:53:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1c8d9a6d58d_754d3f84b5acd964148728 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @larseggert I think it's the right direction, but I'd like to do some more work on the PR. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3892#issuecomment-663894436 ----==_mimepart_5f1c8d9a6d58d_754d3f84b5acd964148728 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@larseggert I think it's the right direction, but I'd like to do some more work on the PR.

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----==_mimepart_5f1c8d9a6d58d_754d3f84b5acd964148728-- From nobody Sat Jul 25 18:59:11 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E80C3A0874 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 18:59:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73TAeB4F2VJC for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 18:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D72A3A0872 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 18:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a27607f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.61]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9FC840E34 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 18:59:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595728745; bh=jLAfj0UlUEx3yLHsiV3qoebutRnXPUrQPbpHNX0iqnU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xacGrUNBZZG2nIkiVT1Nga+cpXrnEv6a9P4mf5ZOfNrXJeDVuejjOnmpBBJ/D/k7c NCdnCQSg94YknRnG2EshklYsy15RqwxKTdSh/xK31SVZ5LmPRj9dUIUbpyDdsSLkuP lNCM1Vp+G6s0W2aumsYyp0nGCeHn4asLLsW3DskQ= Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 18:59:05 -0700 From: Eric Kinnear Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Servers are not expected to validate multiple paths simultaneously (#3932) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1ce369cb7b0_79713fbf4b0cd95c5126d6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ekinnear X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 01:59:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1ce369cb7b0_79713fbf4b0cd95c5126d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm a bit confused about why a client needs to probe multiple paths simultaneously, given we have connection migration, not multipath. I think there's a pretty big distinction between probing a path to establish the potential for connectivity and migrating the connection to that path. For example, I would not be at all surprised if a client were to probe all available paths and choose the "best" one to migrate to when the need arises (often, although not always, there is some warning that conditions are worsening on the current path which provides the opportunity to evaluate alternatives). > What if they all succeed? A client can still only use one. That said, I think a large part of the reason to allow probing on multiple paths is to avoid requiring synchronization of a shared understanding as to the state of current probes. We don't want to add a bunch of machinery to establish _failure_ of a probe on a different path. So even if we don't think that a client would ever _intentionally_ probe multiple paths, if a client probes one path and hears no response, it seems completely reasonable to think that it would switch and probe a different path if it had one available. If it turns out that there was just some delay for that initial path, say it had a 1.5s RTT, now the server is going to think the client probed two paths at the same time, when in reality the client thinks it's just talking to one. It also doesn't seem particularly harmful to allow this? As @kazuho noted, there's some good text in there about limiting state required on the server, and of course path validation can happen at any time, so it seems completely reasonable to "forget" that any given path was validated if a client probes and then doesn't end up using the path. (Note that you'd likely want to retire the CID used on that path, so as to replace it with a new one when you did that forgetting, which also serves as a nice heuristic for the other endpoint to say "oh, hmm, they don't think they're talking to me over there", but we can dig into that later.) > @ekinnear can you clarify the packet racing issue a bit more or point me to text that already does? The packet racing thing is a reference to [9.3.3](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-9.3.3) and the previous section. This led us to require endpoints to validate both the current and the new path when it changes, which conveniently provokes some traffic to reconfirm the active path and makes it more difficult to disrupt a connection that's gone idle. ``` In response to an apparent migration, endpoints MUST validate the previously active path using a PATH_CHALLENGE frame. This induces the sending of new packets on that path. If the path is no longer viable, the validation attempt will time out and fail; if the path is viable, but no longer desired, the validation will succeed, but only results in probing packets being sent on the path. An endpoint that receives a PATH_CHALLENGE on an active path SHOULD send a non-probing packet in response. If the non-probing packet arrives before any copy made by an attacker, this results in the connection being migrated back to the original path. Any subsequent migration to another path restarts this entire process. ``` While technically this is only discussing one "new" path and then the old path being validated at the same time, it seems as though it would be trivial for such an attacker to convince an endpoint that it was seeing "probes" (since we've discussed that it's not that difficult to identify a probing packet as an observer) from multiple paths and therefore be quite upset if such behavior were restricted. > future hardware could make that possible I'm not saying this happens all the time, but it seems pretty reasonable to have a Wi-Fi interface and then a dual SIM device with multiple cellular interfaces. Overall, it seems as though (even if this isn't crazy common) it's not unreasonable to expect that this behavior might happen, and it doesn't seem like there's a big benefit to restricting it, nor harm in allowing it, beyond the existing text reminding endpoints to be careful with the amount of state they're willing to allocate to any individual client (which is a thing outside of any probing/migration concept anyways). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3932#issuecomment-663925866 ----==_mimepart_5f1ce369cb7b0_79713fbf4b0cd95c5126d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm a bit confused about why a client needs to probe multiple paths simultaneously, given we have connection migration, not multipath.

I think there's a pretty big distinction between probing a path to establish the potential for connectivity and migrating the connection to that path. For example, I would not be at all surprised if a client were to probe all available paths and choose the "best" one to migrate to when the need arises (often, although not always, there is some warning that conditions are worsening on the current path which provides the opportunity to evaluate alternatives).

What if they all succeed? A client can still only use one.

That said, I think a large part of the reason to allow probing on multiple paths is to avoid requiring synchronization of a shared understanding as to the state of current probes. We don't want to add a bunch of machinery to establish failure of a probe on a different path. So even if we don't think that a client would ever intentionally probe multiple paths, if a client probes one path and hears no response, it seems completely reasonable to think that it would switch and probe a different path if it had one available. If it turns out that there was just some delay for that initial path, say it had a 1.5s RTT, now the server is going to think the client probed two paths at the same time, when in reality the client thinks it's just talking to one.

It also doesn't seem particularly harmful to allow this?

As @kazuho noted, there's some good text in there about limiting state required on the server, and of course path validation can happen at any time, so it seems completely reasonable to "forget" that any given path was validated if a client probes and then doesn't end up using the path. (Note that you'd likely want to retire the CID used on that path, so as to replace it with a new one when you did that forgetting, which also serves as a nice heuristic for the other endpoint to say "oh, hmm, they don't think they're talking to me over there", but we can dig into that later.)

@ekinnear can you clarify the packet racing issue a bit more or point me to text that already does?

The packet racing thing is a reference to 9.3.3 and the previous section. This led us to require endpoints to validate both the current and the new path when it changes, which conveniently provokes some traffic to reconfirm the active path and makes it more difficult to disrupt a connection that's gone idle.

In response to an apparent migration, endpoints MUST validate the previously active 
path using a PATH_CHALLENGE frame. This induces the sending of new packets on 
that path. If the path is no longer viable, the validation attempt will time out and fail;
if the path is viable, but no longer desired, the validation will succeed, but only
results in probing packets being sent on the path.

An endpoint that receives a PATH_CHALLENGE on an active path SHOULD send a 
non-probing packet in response. If the non-probing packet arrives before any copy 
made by an attacker, this results in the connection being migrated back to the original 
path. Any subsequent migration to another path restarts this entire process.

While technically this is only discussing one "new" path and then the old path being validated at the same time, it seems as though it would be trivial for such an attacker to convince an endpoint that it was seeing "probes" (since we've discussed that it's not that difficult to identify a probing packet as an observer) from multiple paths and therefore be quite upset if such behavior were restricted.

future hardware could make that possible

I'm not saying this happens all the time, but it seems pretty reasonable to have a Wi-Fi interface and then a dual SIM device with multiple cellular interfaces.

Overall, it seems as though (even if this isn't crazy common) it's not unreasonable to expect that this behavior might happen, and it doesn't seem like there's a big benefit to restricting it, nor harm in allowing it, beyond the existing text reminding endpoints to be careful with the amount of state they're willing to allocate to any individual client (which is a thing outside of any probing/migration concept anyways).

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+1 to what @ekinnear says.

The resolution of #3489 (which ended up as PR #3557) was that a server has to remember state of N paths where N is the number of CIDs active at one time.

As @ekinnear says, a client cannot tell when a server thinks that it received two probes concurrently. Therefore, it is very tricky to have this kind of restriction within a specification that allows clients to retain multiple backup paths.

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----==_mimepart_5f1ce81a181fb_7043fa9c7ccd96c5879ef-- From nobody Sun Jul 26 10:58:10 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126AA3A1218 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 10:58:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.028 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.028 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dAOES6GHTXWv for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 10:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2D433A1213 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 10:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.64]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC9B600ADB for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 10:58:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595786287; bh=mcDpunz4//agkopoO2ay5pysJ9rJjOl6WMz26fWcOtk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Gw/c53DA6zby6A3CgdapyGOmH4KsbCoWb1B0mYWx0mIrakRxztgaMm6wpFQNopOd5 c2ynna1v7Sh09VG+UaBL9V7+8bPq7YVITiRW2Md/dpWGPEvDodWvtjeeWWtOSF4Op+ E9aNri7IKxh8n7jjHpuUmqlB3OcA16KX28NnRVv4= Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 10:58:06 -0700 From: Benjamin Saunders Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Including ACK delay in packet loss detection time threshold (#3951) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1dc42ef0239_74d23fb5002cd96415603b7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: Ralith X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 17:58:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1dc42ef0239_74d23fb5002cd96415603b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some clarifying language expressing that the ack delay is included in path validation/closing/draining timers/etc only for simplicity would be nice. Given the large potential impact, the reader is otherwise left trying to guess why that's appropriate. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3951#issuecomment-664020514 ----==_mimepart_5f1dc42ef0239_74d23fb5002cd96415603b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Some clarifying language expressing that the ack delay is included in path validation/closing/draining timers/etc only for simplicity would be nice. Given the large potential impact, the reader is otherwise left trying to guess why that's appropriate.

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----==_mimepart_5f1dc42ef0239_74d23fb5002cd96415603b7-- From nobody Sun Jul 26 11:51:29 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AC83A1451 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 11:51:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SgB9R0dV5aEU for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 11:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6DDB3A13F4 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 11:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-2e54e43.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-2e54e43.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.27]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C935A5607E2 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 11:51:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595789471; bh=xGP+WFe+UHjG0iQmG1xg35UUm+Hpz5HlSHnGDTXqTc0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QDIQkkziPGELCJZ6tD5wGoOncDc/oauWHFOHiHjIg9bIdG9qfqU+hJ7eEfn7MRSxe 3fGhGSFZI8BzdTQF+vylOwgTFr/4VG1vnh+NZ2KMeHszUCYBaZKhDTyA0qc4BEw8AF x9w8ZXetJsDJ4bIz+UOHomyjemqfaehs8HOyvt0Q= Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 11:51:11 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PTO after handshake completion is not well-defined (#3831) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1dd09fb7248_39d3fd0448cd96816730f8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:51:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1dd09fb7248_39d3fd0448cd96816730f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As commented elsewhere, persistent congestion is a feature of the congestion controller, so it's across all PN spaces. I also agree with @kazuho that the current text indicates setting the alarm to outstanding_0.5RTT_packet_sent_time + PTO. Only in the case of no in-flight packets is Now(in this case handshake_completion_time) used. I actually think the existing text doesn't imply you'd start from then handshake completion time, but I can write an editorial PR to make it completely clear. > A sender recomputes and may need to reset its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent or acknowledged, when the handshake is confirmed, or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3831#issuecomment-664026240 ----==_mimepart_5f1dd09fb7248_39d3fd0448cd96816730f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As commented elsewhere, persistent congestion is a feature of the congestion controller, so it's across all PN spaces.

I also agree with @kazuho that the current text indicates setting the alarm to outstanding_0.5RTT_packet_sent_time + PTO.

Only in the case of no in-flight packets is Now(in this case handshake_completion_time) used.

I actually think the existing text doesn't imply you'd start from then handshake completion time, but I can write an editorial PR to make it completely clear.

A sender recomputes and may need to reset its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent or acknowledged, when the handshake is confirmed, or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded.

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I tried adding more text, but I think it made it more confusing. Suggestions welcome.

Fixes #3831

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3959

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Thanks, that sounds editorial.

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----==_mimepart_5f1dddbddd82c_6be13fb1d64cd96c163706d-- From nobody Sun Jul 26 16:11:44 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165413A151C for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 16:11:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rj7gZnoyByoq for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 16:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F7903A14E7 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 16:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0f78100.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.25.48]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D563840E2C for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 16:11:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595805100; bh=GEQO7dEp7QsBjBIdoqcgyHtAeMiT9vW7IV3LLt4Lp6k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=yVkYhWm4/MAKJkbRwwIi12X1Y9Gv9jzkZGYdn7bA9ZDCfxg+4vxa+y+j39Aft936c AhxNuOcKaxFqQ9bab2DwMIVq+Gb9LafcfuN2S4yfDfvEeDVX46yBGUESnmLqUPkxVF H+W6WHqo2WIFWZA3Qqs5QsovqPdef+yHBNaMpXbI= Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 16:11:40 -0700 From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify simultaneous path validation (#3932) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1e0dac59f5c_1dbf3fddcd6cd96069181"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 23:11:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1e0dac59f5c_1dbf3fddcd6cd96069181 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with @erickinnear and @kazuho here. If a client sends a probe on interface A, and then interface A disconnects and then interface B appears immediately, the client should be able to probe on interface B even though to the server will receive two independent probes at roughly the same time. Servers need to be able to handle multiple concurrent probes in order for migration to be reliable. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3932#issuecomment-664052496 ----==_mimepart_5f1e0dac59f5c_1dbf3fddcd6cd96069181 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree with @erickinnear and @kazuho here. If a client sends a probe on interface A, and then interface A disconnects and then interface B appears immediately, the client should be able to probe on interface B even though to the server will receive two independent probes at roughly the same time. Servers need to be able to handle multiple concurrent probes in order for migration to be reliable.

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https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-recovery-29#appendix-A.1

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   After a packet is declared lost, the endpoint can track it for an
   amount of time comparable to the maximum expected packet reordering,
   such as 1 RTT.  This allows for detection of spurious
   retransmissions.

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----==_mimepart_5f1e3019997e9_135b3f8d532cd95c231698-- From nobody Sun Jul 26 18:52:14 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9643A15E4 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:52:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NnkTh7cIG8nu for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9ED2D3A15E0 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f1f7af9.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f1f7af9.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.111.13]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B547A520EC1 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:52:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595814730; bh=TEa+pBpeCWiPmexzTmZiJmsWmWhok6LFCmbUgSt8hyA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=In3Y1ikH0EWe6SNDXgmRPTSReG7VJgzsLB5F/WneKPPgZADzCHeDPE8miKEWN43N/ VLV8g/AgzWnTZlIBPwO5PflChccIrEpX3n77Q3acfqn5dFfdRmW4WZv4FCPcJqC/AV CW7c0tMzOSZYS/RtHWxlcnhWOZ7Bow94w81al2s0= Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:52:10 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Suggest endpoints may recognize acks after loss is declared (#3956) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1e334aa5c75_67863f8e100cd96419196e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 01:52:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1e334aa5c75_67863f8e100cd96419196e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @tatsuhiro-t Thank you for pointing that out. I missed that. I tend to think that we should adopt #3957. As stated in my original comment, handling of late acks is the prerequisite of many of the normative requirements that exist in the recovery draft. Therefore, it is better to have a normative requirement for handling of late acks. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3956#issuecomment-664077868 ----==_mimepart_5f1e334aa5c75_67863f8e100cd96419196e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@tatsuhiro-t Thank you for pointing that out. I missed that.

I tend to think that we should adopt #3957. As stated in my original comment, handling of late acks is the prerequisite of many of the normative requirements that exist in the recovery draft. Therefore, it is better to have a normative requirement for handling of late acks.

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I'm not opposing adding new normative text. If new text is added, I think that the existing text should be aligned to it. In the PR, it recommends 3PTO, but the recovery draft A.1 says 1RTT.

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FWIW, our implementation, as of a little while ago, tracks for > the current PTO. If everything is working nicely, that limits our commitment. As we are sending probes, the time lengthens so that we send a probe before discarding state. If it takes two probes to get an ACK, we won't recognize that, but we will always catch an ACK for the last set of probes. And the state commitment is minimal unless we're forced to probe.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -576,7 +580,7 @@ discarded, the PTO and loss detection timers MUST be reset, because discarding
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(#3880) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1ec0574363e_22a13fee00ecd9601312fe"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: gloinul X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:54:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1ec0574363e_22a13fee00ecd9601312fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am fine with for future consideration and that the WG has an understanding of the boundaries of potential impact. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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One editorial suggestion and a question, but LG otherwise.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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I thought this would be set to 0 here. Why reduce it?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1560,6 +1566,7 @@ window.
      if (!InCongestionRecovery(sent_time)):
        congestion_recovery_start_time = now()
        congestion_window *= kLossReductionFactor
+       bytes_acked *= kLossReductionFactor

The current cwnd is (cwnd + bytes_acked/cwnd). Multiplying that by kLossReductionFactor means you multiply bytes_acked by kLossReductionFactor as well.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -576,7 +580,7 @@ discarded, the PTO and loss detection timers MUST be reset, because discarding
 keys indicates forward progress and the loss detection timer might have been set
 for a now discarded packet number space.
 
-#### Before Address Validation
+#### Before Server Address Validation

It's before the Client is sure the Server has validated the client's address, but I'll remove this change since it's unrelated.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +have to be errors.  For example, a stream can be reset if the requested resource
+is no longer needed.

Thank you, I like this wording.

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----==_mimepart_5f1ee820e0017_69573fb3beacd9681694ba-- From nobody Mon Jul 27 07:50:29 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CD83A1BC7 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 07:49:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XcFtbUKH8afx for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 07:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F5C03A1B66 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 07:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1dbcc59.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1dbcc59.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.105.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB136840D97 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 07:45:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595861107; bh=zVd1Oq9WQhpl6M48twl6rop2z8ZjWGHBfBQcx9rbClc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=UtJFadwG2sUljQ+PyLlQvMAot8451SzimTYafjUuOIc8apMkZYUoyAa2TAnolmxkY FMhoTHuwgLRFEkXFLgeeGv3omJeoaJfJV6A6O80ao1NHDc35uNm0B8f7+rSoW2M2wq hITmjvlOnTJTsUQaKtEihJ2HstUg1vsAiUr275CU= Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 07:45:07 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't retransmit lost packets that are acked later (#3957) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1ee873cc943_4ea63fe4caccd9601148ba"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 14:49:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1ee873cc943_4ea63fe4caccd9601148ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett commented on this pull request. I still think 3*PTO is far too long. This time period exists to ensure there's sufficient tolerance of reordering, not to wait for multiple PTOs to fire. > +are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of time +elapses, such as three times the PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or on ```suggestion are declared lost. A sender can discard this information a period of time after the packet is lost, such as after the Smoothed RTT (Section 5 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or on ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3957#pullrequestreview-455849653 ----==_mimepart_5f1ee873cc943_4ea63fe4caccd9601148ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of time
+elapses, such as three times the PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or on

I'm happy to change it to 1 x PTO. I'd like the ack delay and the rttdev to be included in this suggestion.

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Thanks for pointing out this inconsistency, @tatsuhiro-t. I would argue that this should be a PTO, since that allows for including the RTT variance in the waiting period. Using a PTO includes the maximum ack delay as well -- which may not be necessary -- but it's convenient to use the PTO period.

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----==_mimepart_5f1ef8274ff25_5de3fe02a2cd9643775a-- From nobody Mon Jul 27 08:55:04 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BE13A1A1E for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 08:55:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0-S3INet0j4L for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 08:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D25043A1A02 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 08:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1b8c660.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1b8c660.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.18.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FFF340ECB for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 08:54:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595865280; bh=d/m240PpwgqnXdXbnzKfCU+kJLFvswAjTVlnzkvt5EA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=J+TFbGsyGNaCh6BOSEcqqKzj8tyFxuIbdNhYMp/3Yj+m1ppr9+ZmFEWA+iZ/LZNUi n6zc1dBeXAG0nIw2wDgyEMYgKm87M8IIaOp6YDzEEQuSdfydh8PHERpRGGkQcfDN3U IN5ok2R1k88oVjDrhxq08dlkrGINA2ATHTKX6D3g= Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 08:54:40 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Suggest endpoints may recognize acks after loss is declared (#3956) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1ef8c016c96_11343f81280cd96842479"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 15:55:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1ef8c016c96_11343f81280cd96842479 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wanted to clarify my comment on the PR about believing that 1 RTT is a preferable recommendation to 3*PTO. We definitely don't want to discard this information BEFORE the packet is lost or acknowledged. But after it's been declared lost, there's no need to wait longer than the reordering window to receive an acknowledgement, because an immediate ACK will be sent when the out of order packet arrives. I tend to think an RTT is a plenty long reordering window in practice. If nothing is inflight before and nothing sent after the packet is lost AND the late immediate ACK for the reordered packet is lost, then it could take longer than the reordering window to receive an ACK, but that seems like an edge case that's not very interesting. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3956#issuecomment-664480525 ----==_mimepart_5f1ef8c016c96_11343f81280cd96842479 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I wanted to clarify my comment on the PR about believing that 1 RTT is a preferable recommendation to 3*PTO.

We definitely don't want to discard this information BEFORE the packet is lost or acknowledged. But after it's been declared lost, there's no need to wait longer than the reordering window to receive an acknowledgement, because an immediate ACK will be sent when the out of order packet arrives. I tend to think an RTT is a plenty long reordering window in practice.

If nothing is inflight before and nothing sent after the packet is lost AND the late immediate ACK for the reordered packet is lost, then it could take longer than the reordering window to receive an ACK, but that seems like an edge case that's not very interesting.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of time
+elapses, such as three times the PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or on

ack delay shouldn't need to be included, because the packet would be acknowledged immediately.

Including RTTVar implies that the network's reordering is sometimes as much 3*SRTT, but assuming the data was retransmitted, you'd expect the retransmission to be acknowledged in about 1 RTT, so suggesting you might need to wait longer seems odd to me.

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This sentence looks to readers as if clients MAY send same requests on a new connection even when the server keeps canceling or something regardless of clients' requests. There should be additional sentences if it's expected or not. - Some phrases in [connection-shutdown](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/blob/e0aa78966fc74475b6a5ef8d12d9472497cdfd2d/draft-ietf-quic-http.md#connection-shutdown) look verbose and confusing > Upon receipt of a GOAWAY frame, if the client has already sent requests with a Stream ID greater than or equal to the identifier **received in a GOAWAY frame** > If a server receives a GOAWAY frame after having promised pushes with a Push ID greater than or equal to the identifier **received in a GOAWAY frame** - The link `section 4.1 of [QUIC-TRANSPORT]` in [quic-http-29#section-4.4](https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-http-29#section-4.4) is wrong: [quic-http#section-4.1](https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-http#section-4.1) should be replaced with [quic-transport#section-4.1](https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport#section-4.1). > The client can use stream flow control (see section 4.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) to limit the amount of data a server may commit to the pushed stream. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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  • Ambiguous description with MAY for user agents in server-push:

It'd be better to remove or clarify rather than ambiguously allowing user agents with MAY.

These associations do not affect the operation of the protocol, but MAY be considered by user agents when deciding how to use pushed resources

Endpoints MUST NOT initiate new requests or promise new pushes on the connection after receipt of a GOAWAY frame from the peer. Clients MAY establish a new connection to send additional requests.

This sentence looks to readers as if clients MAY send same requests on a new connection even when the server keeps canceling or something regardless of clients' requests. There should be additional sentences if it's expected or not.

Upon receipt of a GOAWAY frame, if the client has already sent requests with a Stream ID greater than or equal to the identifier received in a GOAWAY frame

If a server receives a GOAWAY frame after having promised pushes with a Push ID greater than or equal to the identifier received in a GOAWAY frame

quic-http#section-4.1 should be replaced with quic-transport#section-4.1.

The client can use stream flow control (see section 4.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) to limit the amount of data a server may commit to the pushed stream.

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@ianswett : I've changed it to 1 PTO. We've commonly used PTO as a time period for everything else in the transport, and so it's convenient to use PTO here too. Ultimately, this is the amount of time you're holding on to packets marked as lost, so the extra time waiting for a PTO (over an RTT) really shouldn't make any measurable difference.

If you still think we should say RTT, I'm fine with that.

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I'm fine with PTO, and I prefer PTO above RTT.

There could be reasons where there are some packet reordering due to multiple paths being used (e.g., ECMP, clustered endpoint). In such case, the variance of latency becomes more like a constant independent of RTT.

I think it is a good idea to recommend a value (i.e. PTO) that can cover such constant even if RTT is very small. PTO has max_ack_delay that would cover that constant.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Jul 27 11:11:20 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41AD73A1AE4 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:11:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jtOxTzUTD81M for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B42F3A1041 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-fa7043e.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-fa7043e.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.109.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E817340EA7 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:11:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595873475; bh=e5JffPXk4uJxejw8rIb5ZQIDBPNGH9VO/Cv6u6gnXwA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=zybfW4pPAL5Myipi3sBp7Ux15idaXt4W8QkHZMKMbNYEr6Nd3mrtgiond/fQVZALY gI3Prah9712rNyouAfgFwoqbl7MN+ywedzn5NqeIQThdfqSMbUI24CPI11y0GkZnDt HSlyKvaLVKCgL8i8qCoqJjk5vnpIcpq8JSCoC2gw= Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:11:15 -0700 From: Junho Choi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Byte counting at Congestion avoidance (#3917) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1f18c33f284_53903fc560ecd960275617"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: junhochoi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 18:11:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1f18c33f284_53903fc560ecd960275617 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @junhochoi commented on this pull request. > @@ -1560,6 +1566,7 @@ window. if (!InCongestionRecovery(sent_time)): congestion_recovery_start_time = now() congestion_window *= kLossReductionFactor + bytes_acked *= kLossReductionFactor Just thinking again... this is when a recovery episode starts and we enter congestion avoidance by ssthresh=cwnd. And bytes_acked is only used in congestion avoidance and doing nothing during slow start. I think we simply clear bytes_acked to 0 as @ianswett said because it's a new start of congestion avoidance, or no need to touch bytes_acked because even if there is a previous leftover bytes_acked, it will not impact much. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3917#discussion_r461076097 ----==_mimepart_5f1f18c33f284_53903fc560ecd960275617 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1560,6 +1566,7 @@ window.
      if (!InCongestionRecovery(sent_time)):
        congestion_recovery_start_time = now()
        congestion_window *= kLossReductionFactor
+       bytes_acked *= kLossReductionFactor

Just thinking again... this is when a recovery episode starts and we enter congestion avoidance by ssthresh=cwnd. And bytes_acked is only used in congestion avoidance and doing nothing during slow start.

I think we simply clear bytes_acked to 0 as @ianswett said because it's a new start of congestion avoidance, or no need to touch bytes_acked because even if there is a previous leftover bytes_acked, it will not impact much.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

This is a slightly larger change than I first realized because it moves CWND increments from bytes to packets. I'm trying to decide how much that matters in practice.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1560,6 +1566,7 @@ window.
      if (!InCongestionRecovery(sent_time)):
        congestion_recovery_start_time = now()
        congestion_window *= kLossReductionFactor
+       bytes_acked *= kLossReductionFactor

Thanks for the explanation. I think I'm fine either way, but questions like this are one of the reason I liked the old approach of assuming it's the implementation's responsibility to deal with rounding/etc.

Reading this again, I realize there's a somewhat substantive difference in behavior between the previous pseudocode and this PR, because the previous pseudocode would increment CWND in bytes, not only max_datagram_size.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1560,6 +1566,7 @@ window.
      if (!InCongestionRecovery(sent_time)):
        congestion_recovery_start_time = now()
        congestion_window *= kLossReductionFactor
+       bytes_acked *= kLossReductionFactor

This isn't a big difference, so I'm fine with any resolution here. @ianswett : I don't understand what you mean by the substantive difference. The previous code incremented by (bytes_acked/cwnd) fraction of max_datagram_size on each ack, this one accumulates that fraction until it is 1 and then adds max_datagram_size. It is functionally the same.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1560,6 +1566,7 @@ window.
      if (!InCongestionRecovery(sent_time)):
        congestion_recovery_start_time = now()
        congestion_window *= kLossReductionFactor
+       bytes_acked *= kLossReductionFactor

I agree that this is a small difference either way.

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A suggestion in order to maintain byte quantization instead of packet quantization, which minimizes changes from the existing draft.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

This part contains the larger change. Previously, congestion_window was adjusted in 1 byte increments. Now it's adjusted in max_datagram_size increments. In practice, it likely doesn't matter that much, but I am concerned about perpetuating packet-size quantization in congestion control, since my impression is that it's an artifact of the Linux kernel, not an intentional design choice.

I believe BSD-based OS's use bytes instead of packets, and bytes always seemed more correct to me.

However, this isn't that difficult to fix. How about:
cwnd_in_packets = congestion_window / max_datagram_size
congestion_window += bytes_acked / cwnd_in_packets
bytes_acked = bytes_acked % cwnd_in_packets

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This is already included in #3942. I'm closing this PR to avoid unnecessary merge conflicts.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +acknowledged. This includes packets that are acknowledged after being declared
+lost. Doing so requires senders to retain information about packets after they
+are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of time
+elapses, such as a PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or on other events,
+such as reaching a memory limit.

I will take the compression, but we don't need to say "expected maximum packet reordering", since that's not a well-defined term. I'll spell in out in other words.

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I agree with Jana that the "ACK Delay" paragraph could use a bit more work, hopefully my suggestions are helpful. > @@ -3720,11 +3720,11 @@ containing that information is acknowledged. unless the endpoint has sent a RESET_STREAM for that stream. Once an endpoint sends a RESET_STREAM frame, no further STREAM frames are needed. -* ACK frames carry the most recent set of acknowledgements and the Ack Delay - from the largest acknowledged packet, as described in - {{sending-acknowledgements}}. Delaying the transmission of packets - containing ACK frames or resending old ACK frames can cause the peer to - generate an inflated RTT sample or unnecessarily disable ECN. +* ACK frames carry the most recent set of acknowledgements and the + acknowledgement delay from the largest acknowledged packet, as described in Ack Delay is the name of the field in the ACK frame, so I thought the old text was correct? > @@ -5279,13 +5279,14 @@ ACK Delay: : A variable-length integer representing the time delta in microseconds between when the ACK frame was sent and when the largest acknowledged packet, as ```suggestion when the largest acknowledged packet, as indicated by the ``` > @@ -5279,13 +5279,14 @@ ACK Delay: : A variable-length integer representing the time delta in microseconds between when the ACK frame was sent and when the largest acknowledged packet, as - indicated in the Largest Acknowledged field, was received by this peer. 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I agree with Jana that the "ACK Delay" paragraph could use a bit more = work, hopefully my suggestions are helpful.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +acknowledged. This includes packets that are acknowledged after being declared
+lost. Doing so requires senders to retain information about packets after they
+are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of time
+elapses, such as a PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or on other events,
+such as reaching a memory limit.

I'm trying to wordsmith this compression, but it's a bit difficult. The text is a bit verbose, but I think it is clearer. Unless you think there's a substantive difference, I'd prefer the existing text for clarity.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Jul 27 18:55:04 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7EE3A0AB5 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 18:55:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pxQ1OYGSXKaF for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 18:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-15.smtp.github.com (out-15.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE70B3A0AB4 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 18:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cf59896.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cf59896.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.112.26]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1397A0DF5 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 18:54:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595901299; bh=dnAKmUEvltR8v3l4KhdYn/a6kfYPHAOQezhLsvW2Fvw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nLzG70SwTkM2CzFrZc9tu80QOG9pSVtakWGSvMpC06uWuK1x+dqgnjdX2gYBbBUiL iyGg64XOfMyfNG2uowVpdpRQL5VhFacQxezOvrCltIT2A0d5vgMDeDnpH3FTsOCHMs XtIU7csi2jMrH2WOc6NUGINhjr19Gjeberl8xjMc= Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 18:54:59 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Byte counting at Congestion avoidance (#3917) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1f857326eb0_36043fdb4aacd964120844"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 01:55:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1f857326eb0_36043fdb4aacd964120844 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @janaiyengar commented on this pull request. > + bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes + if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window): + bytes_acked -= congestion_window + congestion_window += max_datagram_size I don't see how this is packet-based computation. Yes, the cwnd is incremented only when it can be incremented in max_datagram_size chunks, but at any given time, you know exactly what your fractional component is: (bytes_acked/congestion_window). At any given point in time, your total send allowance, in bytes, is (congestion_window + bytes_acked * max_datagram_size / congestion_window). This fractional difference only matters if you are sending packets smaller than max_datagram_size. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3917#discussion_r461270578 ----==_mimepart_5f1f857326eb0_36043fdb4aacd964120844 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

I don't see how this is packet-based computation. Yes, the cwnd is incremented only when it can be incremented in max_datagram_size chunks, but at any given time, you know exactly what your fractional component is: (bytes_acked/congestion_window). At any given point in time, your total send allowance, in bytes, is (congestion_window + bytes_acked * max_datagram_size / congestion_window).

This fractional difference only matters if you are sending packets smaller than max_datagram_size.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  ~~~
 
-For example, assume:
+where PTO is computed as described in {{computing-pto}}.

That's a really good point. I've brought back the expanded expression, since it is perhaps less confusing, and I've added a sentence to point out this difference as well.

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----==_mimepart_5f1f90e6c2eab_2b093ff36a6cd96c2248c7-- From nobody Mon Jul 27 19:44:13 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223D43A0B91 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:44:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.042 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.042 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=2.059, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NNLxkRurId86 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54F123A0BAC for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cd7bc13.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.102]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EFD560D75 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:43:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595904233; bh=zx8rDELzaQTAm3cLNbDpeOcuegWNWVvJLVI495/do0Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QvTIfW7iassMuJXe+bDPdjYxUlrDh84uc0ipf8l2XzJwU6DwcwgYDAAMzfGiQrRpb Ze6eCOPvwfGktmxerf0IfI5gJsezHHDgK+8mylLDL9tGKB7KzDEGS7Bd7RqwOJQmtM TMCe0KE0PHNQog3nOchw6n5Yv2DVgkeC2V36MVeA= Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:43:53 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Use better example for persistent congestion (#3929) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1f90e9613a7_21293f847b4cd968783ca"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 02:44:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1f90e9613a7_21293f847b4cd968783ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm going to merge this. Happy to fix any more editorial issues separately. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3929#issuecomment-664742970 ----==_mimepart_5f1f90e9613a7_21293f847b4cd968783ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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This adds a couple of normatives, which may be unnecessary, and I'm happy to take suggestions on those. Closes #3939. Closes #3941. Closes #3947. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3961 -- Commit Summary -- * sync * Rework section on persistent congestion -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (67) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3961.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3961.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3961 ----==_mimepart_5f1f9d54906c0_ceb3fd7c06cd9642851a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I started with trying to do small fixes, but quickly found that restructuring a bit and clarifying the details of what the sender was precisely supposed to do was the better than trying to be terse.

This adds a couple of normatives, which may be unnecessary, and I'm happy to take suggestions on those.

Closes #3939.
Closes #3941.
Closes #3947.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3961

Commit Summary

  • sync
  • Rework section on persistent congestion

File Changes

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----==_mimepart_5f1f9d54906c0_ceb3fd7c06cd9642851a3-- From nobody Mon Jul 27 20:49:50 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BA53A0BB6 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:49:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oYSEYYFpRY9K for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EEBA3A0BC7 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0f7e7fd.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0f7e7fd.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.110.17]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CFB840EA0 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:49:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595908179; bh=JULKyKqTDdeT7JY+49x+iBANyM6CkWWfwaEZF6n4+78=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cDR6wgleKuS9cuYBQ74ApbpQoxiHLi6Nhkc/T3yUzYSba/YDxIGmsH1Jp2Lr3z0dS fEiwleN0kcGl3/oHmsVlU4KdR6cdbEtFDARzMaiCkTzu2qeSjC/u/RHD8HCfn5UzHu AMZRDTVuV0RZX+LYVcVPBU7gkSvFzpjmZFPf9Oso= Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:49:39 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework section on persistent congestion (#3961) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1fa05310e9_31e73fcff56cd96426094f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 03:49:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1fa05310e9_31e73fcff56cd96426094f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson commented on this pull request. This is much clearer, thanks. > -sent over a long enough period of time, the network is considered to be -experiencing persistent congestion. Commonly, this can be established by -consecutive PTOs, but since the PTO timer is reset when a new ack-eliciting -packet is sent, an explicit duration must be used to account for those cases -where PTOs do not occur or are substantially delayed. The rationale for this -threshold is to enable a sender to use initial PTOs for aggressive probing, as -TCP does with Tail Loss Probe (TLP; see {{RACK}}), before establishing -persistent congestion, as TCP does with a Retransmission Timeout (RTO; see -{{?RFC5681}}). The RECOMMENDED value for kPersistentCongestionThreshold is 3, -which is approximately equivalent to two TLPs before an RTO in TCP. - -This duration is computed as follows: +When a sender establishes loss of all in-flight packets sent over a long enough +duration, the network is considered to be experiencing persistent congestion. + +### Duration {#duration} ```suggestion ### Duration {#pc-duration} ``` > max_ack_delay irrespective of the packet number spaces in which losses are established. +This duration is intended to allow a sender to use initial PTOs for aggressive What is an "initial PTO"? I think that you want to rephrase this. Is the intent not to give the sender an opportunity to send multiple times before declaring PC? And that we want to allow for more than one probe packet to be sent so that transient loss does not cause PC unnecessarily. > +This design uses an explicit duration instead of consecutive PTO events since +the PTO timer is restarted every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent. An +application that trickles data restarts the PTO timer repeatedly, preventing the +PTO timer from expiring for a potentially long period of time. A consequence of +this design is that persistent congestion can be established without the +occurrence of any PTOs. + +### Declaring Persistent Congestion + +A sender declares persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement, if the +following conditions are true: + +* there are at least two ack-eliciting packets that are declared lost; + +* the duration between the send times of these two packets exceeds the + persistent congestion duration ({{duration}}); and ```suggestion persistent congestion duration ({{pc-duration}}); and ``` > +* the duration between the send times of these two packets exceeds the + persistent congestion duration ({{duration}}); and + +* all packets sent between those times are declared lost. + +Since network congestion is not affected by packet number spaces, persistent +congestion SHOULD be established across packet number spaces. A sender that does +not have state for all packet number spaces or an implementation that cannot +compare send times across packet number spaces MAY use state for just the packet +number space that was acknowledged. + +When persistent congestion is declared, the sender's congestion window MUST be +reduced to the minimum congestion window (kMinimumWindow). This response of +collapsing the congestion window on persistent congestion is functionally +similar to a sender's response on a Retransmission Timeout (RTO) in TCP +({{RFC5681}}) after Tail Loss Probes (TLP; see {{RACK}}). The repetition of the RTO and TLP citations seems a little duplicative here. ```suggestion ({{RFC5681}}) after Tail Loss Probes ({{RACK}}). ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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The pseudo code says the following:

if (no in-flight packets):
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    if (has handshake keys):
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    else:
      return (now() + duration), Initial

The spec says the following for the time from which the timer should be armed if there are no outstanding packets in the Handshake packet number space:

the PTO timer is armed from the time that the Initial packet number space is discarded.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

FYI, FreeBSD uses byte counting by default and use the same mechanism of this PR: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/blob/0b7e58eb670d67cdc0268be5d588839038aa5abf/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c#L355

And I think @ianswett 's code has a problem

bytes_acked = bytes_acked % cwnd_in_packets

this will make bytes_acked too small (only between 0 - cwnd_in_packets - 1 range)

I'm happy with the current logic.

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----==_mimepart_5f1fa84f5b7b7_38793fe7e86cd9683182ee-- From nobody Mon Jul 27 21:46:22 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD6E3A0C3B for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:46:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.696 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.696 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IL8dQr3rbEPg for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24AF63A0C3A for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-fa7043e.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-fa7043e.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.109.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F23840E67 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595911576; bh=RzpYG3HkM6btJNMa4jZc2fbcuSvplndjlDdyTdClqGs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=k0g6Lk6C5J2FfkCfbHSH3M01FVsvX4yqoN3U2iZVlHZWPcBUi3PIN0A1AZhusYXGq 59OiB2O4HkY+IxzlBL8Qvqz9esTeamL6F/S6jTY9EKzV6OOSs9jun6dO2iFRxrZEvD Wcm3dtZVfDN7wyHdrBw21SQ+ZJn9qKRwgTgxJuF8= Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:46:16 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework section on persistent congestion (#3961) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1fad98cae38_6b023fc17bacd95c60535f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 04:46:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1fad98cae38_6b023fc17bacd95c60535f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho commented on this pull request. Thank you for working on this. I think it is much better. Q. Do you plan to have a separate PR for requiring RTT to be established on the far edge of the persistent congestion period? > + +This design uses an explicit duration instead of consecutive PTO events since +the PTO timer is restarted every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent. An +application that trickles data restarts the PTO timer repeatedly, preventing the +PTO timer from expiring for a potentially long period of time. A consequence of +this design is that persistent congestion can be established without the +occurrence of any PTOs. + +### Declaring Persistent Congestion + +A sender declares persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement, if the +following conditions are true: + +* there are at least two ack-eliciting packets that are declared lost; + +* the duration between the send times of these two packets exceeds the ```suggestion * the duration between the send times of these packets exceeds the ``` "two" was a bit confusing for me, because the previous sentence talks about "at least two." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3961#pullrequestreview-456297996 ----==_mimepart_5f1fad98cae38_6b023fc17bacd95c60535f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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So, design?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3720,11 +3720,11 @@ containing that information is acknowledged.
   unless the endpoint has sent a RESET_STREAM for that stream.  Once an endpoint
   sends a RESET_STREAM frame, no further STREAM frames are needed.
 
-* ACK frames carry the most recent set of acknowledgements and the Ack Delay
-  from the largest acknowledged packet, as described in
-  {{sending-acknowledgements}}. Delaying the transmission of packets
-  containing ACK frames or resending old ACK frames can cause the peer to
-  generate an inflated RTT sample or unnecessarily disable ECN.
+* ACK frames carry the most recent set of acknowledgements and the
+  acknowledgement delay from the largest acknowledged packet, as described in

It depends on whether the text is supposed to mean that the ACK frame carries the ACK Delay field, or if it carries the acknowledgment delay value. I assumed the latter.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +acknowledged. This includes packets that are acknowledged after being declared
+lost. Doing so requires senders to retain information about packets after they
+are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of time
+elapses, such as a PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or on other events,
+such as reaching a memory limit.

The expanded form is fine.

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----==_mimepart_5f1fbcf0a4a5a_573d3fb2dd2cd95c1114415-- From nobody Mon Jul 27 22:58:51 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8013A0CB8 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 22:58:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.697 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.697 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HSSr7gtLq9Bw for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 22:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF9D93A0CB5 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 22:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1dbcc59.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1dbcc59.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.105.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E8A5C0F1B for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 22:58:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595915927; bh=Z6qt/G9/H+LonjtDyKGxeedVgjXgxGJbI/fTwl64+fQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=1Kd/2rPJxtgnMlec5pMIgLYdRW4d67itE2uDALXCG/0/bm5poIPYIteFSUJsLcqba w4/vST7pDIhfx5JpkbZldLIG9litz/67jyOosxMJEFUoQctMhkfk39ofwu41VSnTOb Ml+Hhn9PRfEVPW4JLsvL3/QA3tG7uctzpBZb70GE= Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 22:58:47 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Byte counting at Congestion avoidance (#3917) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f1fbe971a78_10273faa3decd96c26551"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 05:58:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f1fbe971a78_10273faa3decd96c26551 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson commented on this pull request. > + bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes + if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window): + bytes_acked -= congestion_window + congestion_window += max_datagram_size > This fractional difference only matters if you are sending packets smaller than max_datagram_size. This isn't quite right. Based on this, you need to receive a complete window before you increase the window size. Previously, you could maybe increment by smaller amounts sooner. The difference is between a continuous increase (or at least an increase with every acknowledgments) and a stepped increase. Let's say max_datagram_size is 1000 and your window is currently 10,000, you will have to receive acknowledgements for 10 packets before you can go to 11,000. If you increase progressively, then you might go to 10,100 then 10,200, and so forth sooner. If the assertion is that you can't use that small extra amount, consider that the window could be 9,999 to begin with. That is entirely likely as you rarely settle on a strict multiple of packet size. The first arriving acknowledgment would allow another full-sized packet to be sent much sooner than otherwise. So this is a functional change, even if it you might easily decide that it is acceptable. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3917#discussion_r461336603 ----==_mimepart_5f1fbe971a78_10273faa3decd96c26551 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

This fractional difference only matters if you are sending packets smaller than max_datagram_size.

This isn't quite right. Based on this, you need to receive a complete window before you increase the window size. Previously, you could maybe increment by smaller amounts sooner. The difference is between a continuous increase (or at least an increase with every acknowledgments) and a stepped increase. Let's say max_datagram_size is 1000 and your window is currently 10,000, you will have to receive acknowledgements for 10 packets before you can go to 11,000. If you increase progressively, then you might go to 10,100 then 10,200, and so forth sooner.

If the assertion is that you can't use that small extra amount, consider that the window could be 9,999 to begin with. That is entirely likely as you rarely settle on a strict multiple of packet size. The first arriving acknowledgment would allow another full-sized packet to be sent much sooner than otherwise.

So this is a functional change, even if it you might easily decide that it is acceptable.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

Oh, I should probably concede that more increases to the congestion window will result in the final congestion window being smaller, so you are trading a larger final increase (this PR) with earlier availability of bytes (status quo).

Say you get 10 acks for 1000 bytes, with a starting cwnd of 10,000 and max_datagram_sizeo of 1000.

With this code, you end up with no change until the last ack, where you go to 11,000.

With the previous code, you would go to: 10100, 10199, 10297, 10394, 10490, 10585, 10680, 10773, 10866, 10958. (That's using double-precision logic, you lose two bytes if you round.)

That's less in the end, but the value of that to you depends on whether you can use any of those intermediate values.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

If you want to realize increments immediately, but not lose any credit, then I think that the algorithm is:

credit = saved_credit + (bytes_acked * max_datagram_size)
congestion_window += credit / congestion_window
saved_credit = credit % congestion_window

This uses integer math to produce a value that matches the double-precision logic from my previous comment.

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Lars will include this PR as part of his job application for the RPC.

They would need to let me add several zeroes to Heather's salary...

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

Yesterday was a long day, so I suspect my pseudocode has an error, but as @mt points out this does change how the pseudocode works.

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This code is called from where Initial keys are discarded, so I believe it still matches the text, which only discusses the "(has handshake keys)" case.

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Fixes #3908 Commit: a5cc128e346c5d5ac0111a8a192fdc682ba4a3dd https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a5cc128e346c5d5ac0111a8a192fdc682ba4a3dd Author: ianswett Date: 2020-07-16 (Thu, 16 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson Commit: 58f73149cd0bc83afa499877ac092635a541a44c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/58f73149cd0bc83afa499877ac092635a541a44c Author: ianswett Date: 2020-07-16 (Thu, 16 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Commit: 61584650b49075d6645d6d14f6c6fdc8450c234e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/61584650b49075d6645d6d14f6c6fdc8450c234e Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-21 (Tue, 21 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Better example of persistent congestion Commit: 2780f26cc63a9d5143abc08731cadcabadf37e27 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2780f26cc63a9d5143abc08731cadcabadf37e27 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-21 (Tue, 21 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- use PTO Commit: 6d16cc98ecc8caaa02896d5eca57b2552c9af33b https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6d16cc98ecc8caaa02896d5eca57b2552c9af33b Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-21 (Tue, 21 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- write out Commit: cb5635178e68203d1ce58044a77db2a1805a8a7a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cb5635178e68203d1ce58044a77db2a1805a8a7a Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-21 (Tue, 21 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- capitalize Commit: e0aa78966fc74475b6a5ef8d12d9472497cdfd2d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e0aa78966fc74475b6a5ef8d12d9472497cdfd2d Author: ianswett Date: 2020-07-27 (Mon, 27 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3911 from quicwg/ianswett-current-time Current time PTO clarification Commit: bae4459886c4cfb0cb58af9268f78a64b4a38bdc https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bae4459886c4cfb0cb58af9268f78a64b4a38bdc Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-27 (Mon, 27 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- kazuho's and martin's comments Commit: f5b7fc54911f5708f30df45f1a25a641a73fee0e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f5b7fc54911f5708f30df45f1a25a641a73fee0e Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-27 (Mon, 27 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- lint Commit: af66c0e3f788133fcaec5b29699257ffd6739c82 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/af66c0e3f788133fcaec5b29699257ffd6739c82 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-27 (Mon, 27 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3929 from quicwg/jri/change-example Use better example for persistent congestion Commit: 22e26df92bfef93dcb35e838f9dc3a3315abf025 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/22e26df92bfef93dcb35e838f9dc3a3315abf025 Author: ianswett Date: 2020-07-28 (Tue, 28 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into ianswett-pto-start Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/8167f2ca1098...22e26df92bfe From nobody Tue Jul 28 06:22:51 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCEF3A0C17 for ; 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That being said, it feels odd we mention one case of using now() and not the other, so I updated PR #3959

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 28 06:25:46 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB783A0C22 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 06:25:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fg-sCb45lDlT for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 06:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-23.smtp.github.com (out-23.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15E533A0BA8 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 06:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-b2150d3.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b2150d3.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.113.12]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A333600E3D for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 06:25:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595942724; bh=xahboA60+PBOMZrNeyQ+WpKLEWVp6YGfp8VVK6fnhzU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wltM2B5fo3+9/RHskNDBNrS+mbDu//Xsz++FG9OhD9Aq8zYMPcslRh6/5sPww1zLz lU/JdaVWjjRK9mRkFs/6x9TJMPe+k3rySmRx2z1cYA0qDCmUQRalUyMrJsWss2Z7OH Ee7xsT2gTPKN7BDI5OmcEI0ePAq70y2ouAo23pqY= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 06:25:24 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] When is the "current time" (#3908) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f20274439e4d_71283ffdf8acd95c19307"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 13:25:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f20274439e4d_71283ffdf8acd95c19307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are actually two cases now() is used, so we can't solely rely on handshake keys being discarded. 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There are actually two cases now() is used, so we can't solely rely on handshake keys being discarded.

See #3959 for a larger change.

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Thanks Jana, this is a nice improvement.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +acknowledged. This includes packets that are acknowledged after being declared
+lost. Doing so requires senders to retain information about packets after they
+are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of time
+elapses, such as a PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or on other events,
+such as reaching a memory limit.

The intent was to both make it clearer and talk about the goal of waiting for a reordering period. I find the existing text a bit unclear, which is why I put the first two sentences together.

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----==_mimepart_5f20398358974_3be73f84b56cd968366015-- From nobody Tue Jul 28 07:45:22 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9424A3A0CEA for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 07:45:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wBuPecNCQkXP for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 07:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64C013A0CD7 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 07:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cde56e0.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.25.52]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3CA5C0E54 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 07:45:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595947517; bh=QLvy09bBKykDOdzcs4lC5dDckPad/Rsl3OJAbMN17GU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YPos4fNOv+A3Fbc7xNsj2S3JKSGSXKCKdlU4gD99nFUArEz79PhTKpNJY5LyJhUtx 5rlG7g/tyS6YupQWlZjTI3Yfu3/se06QV4f6ERfkfdaYElIzgIyNegbqSxne3vtmhE oX7QQpIwrCpso+F5Lcf9fknYh5VtFO5U4MKr1Pao= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 07:45:17 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Suggest endpoints may recognize acks after loss is declared (#3956) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f2039fd6d8b4_c9b3fd2094cd964405131"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 14:45:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f2039fd6d8b4_c9b3fd2094cd964405131 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have text about this in recovery, but it's there was no normative text and it's in the appendix, so I think this is design. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3956#issuecomment-665083249 ----==_mimepart_5f2039fd6d8b4_c9b3fd2094cd964405131 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

We have text about this in recovery, but it's there was no normative text and it's in the appendix, so I think this is design.

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----==_mimepart_5f2039fd6d8b4_c9b3fd2094cd964405131-- From nobody Tue Jul 28 08:08:38 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DE03A0D9D for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:08:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.119 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.119 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1op461xUKFAs for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-15.smtp.github.com (out-15.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A7B03A0D86 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-bb778fb.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-bb778fb.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.102.56]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91DE7A0070 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:08:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595948913; bh=J0LM101S3secqeQ6ncXxKSLsHC5qbErHD4g2hsfkhds=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Y+AdKTyrtkHfixRJfyRYIVbfFQuMnKGNFoD0MoWbsKfkW2jxbqCmP6XiAEkob8xDx PyUJHYtQCtNSGn4mTP5h8o4PBefrcwEEB+Po1k9sEnrzn2b9turqbnGxtnSADdQDi+ Fl6EtnR3TDIiiN6FxHjOZMr79vUIsKA5wSNN8LJw= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:08:33 -0700 From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC/ALPN Version Specific Transport Parameters (#3965) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f203f71934bf_51a716f8838d8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:08:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f203f71934bf_51a716f8838d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ## Problem Currently when a client offers multiple ALPNs when connecting to a QUIC server, it still only offers a single QUIC transport parameters set. This implicitly requires (assumes?) that the single TP set is (must be) valid for every protocol version offered. The same is true for QUIC versions when version negotiation is added. ## Possible Solution IMO, we should allow for the client to offer different settings for different QUIC version or ALPNs (or the corresponding combinations?). If we made a change here, I'd also prefer the solution to **not be dependent on any further TLS changes**, as this would make the solution much more disruptive. It has been suggested on Slack that the ALPS TLS extension might be good for this, but IMO, the fact that it would require TLS changes is a non-starter for QUIC v1. One possible solution for fixing this is to modify the format of the existing TPs to a list of { quic_version, alpn, TPs }, and allow for quic_version to be zero and/or alpn to be empty to indicate unrestricted applicability of these TPs (to all versions/ALPNs). ## Specific Examples of Problem - App protocol v1 does not allow server initiated bidi-streams, and explicitly an error to set an initial stream count greater than zero. App protocol v2 now has a use for these streams and requires the client to send a count greater than zero. - A server supports two related protocols, P1 and P2, but each protocol has a slight different interpretation of unidirectional streams, and require different initial counts to be set. - QUIC version 2 wishes to remove or redefine a particular transport parameter. ## Why Should this be in Version 1? If we don't take a change/fix for this in version 1, it restricts the kinds of changes to TPs we can make in future QUIC versions. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3965 ----==_mimepart_5f203f71934bf_51a716f8838d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Problem

Currently when a client offers multiple ALPNs when connecting to a QUIC server, it still only offers a single QUIC transport parameters set. This implicitly requires (assumes?) that the single TP set is (must be) valid for every protocol version offered. The same is true for QUIC versions when version negotiation is added.

Possible Solution

IMO, we should allow for the client to offer different settings for different QUIC version or ALPNs (or the corresponding combinations?). If we made a change here, I'd also prefer the solution to not be dependent on any further TLS changes, as this would make the solution much more disruptive. It has been suggested on Slack that the ALPS TLS extension might be good for this, but IMO, the fact that it would require TLS changes is a non-starter for QUIC v1.

One possible solution for fixing this is to modify the format of the existing TPs to a list of { quic_version, alpn, TPs }, and allow for quic_version to be zero and/or alpn to be empty to indicate unrestricted applicability of these TPs (to all versions/ALPNs).

Specific Examples of Problem

  • App protocol v1 does not allow server initiated bidi-streams, and explicitly an error to set an initial stream count greater than zero. App protocol v2 now has a use for these streams and requires the client to send a count greater than zero.

  • A server supports two related protocols, P1 and P2, but each protocol has a slight different interpretation of unidirectional streams, and require different initial counts to be set.

  • QUIC version 2 wishes to remove or redefine a particular transport parameter.

Why Should this be in Version 1?

If we don't take a change/fix for this in version 1, it restricts the kinds of changes to TPs we can make in future QUIC versions.

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----==_mimepart_5f203f71934bf_51a716f8838d8-- From nobody Tue Jul 28 08:48:30 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BB63A0DDD for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:48:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7GFh1OfkEZZv for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 615C53A0E04 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-0eea13f.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-0eea13f.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.109.26]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5618F900D92 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:48:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595951287; bh=uwm3LTjHTDsP1SEEFx2U2Ck5uP9rGyqDPDXOBxnsAqA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0rKA80qbnumym2ts+b19hq1bmoDYq0MARsUasHcJBFWwiJftW+G0/8Z07JSj2ciyc OR1F1p/DnwZBHmSqpewRMMpImi6FDTniC3nm0ncih4jFVsXwydCrT3kTTNiUt8XUJ0 5L4I5+2xXOC3fIOxytM92LmIzXgOayhm+gnaR4IQ= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:48:07 -0700 From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC/ALPN Version Specific Transport Parameters (#3965) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f2048b74760a_3e4f16f83633b4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:48:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f2048b74760a_3e4f16f83633b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think we should make this change at this point. Regarding separate ALPNs over QUICv1, we can solve this by saying that protocols running over QUIC MUST NOT enforce maximum values for transport parameters. For example HTTP/3 does not use server-initiated bidirectional streams, but there is absolutely no reason for HTTP/3 to require the corresponding transport parameter to be zero. Regarding multiple QUIC versions, I don't understand the problem. The packet containing the transport parameters is a long header that carries the QUIC version, so endpoints just need to interpret transport parameters based on the QUIC version they were sent in. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3965#issuecomment-665119180 ----==_mimepart_5f2048b74760a_3e4f16f83633b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't think we should make this change at this point.

Regarding separate ALPNs over QUICv1, we can solve this by saying that protocols running over QUIC MUST NOT enforce maximum values for transport parameters. For example HTTP/3 does not use server-initiated bidirectional streams, but there is absolutely no reason for HTTP/3 to require the corresponding transport parameter to be zero.

Regarding multiple QUIC versions, I don't understand the problem. The packet containing the transport parameters is a long header that carries the QUIC version, so endpoints just need to interpret transport parameters based on the QUIC version they were sent in.

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----==_mimepart_5f2048b74760a_3e4f16f83633b4-- From nobody Tue Jul 28 08:53:13 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663403A0E79 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:53:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K-iqVn2hHgXK for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 722043A0E8B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1dbcc59.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1dbcc59.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.105.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99323E0D6B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:53:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595951582; bh=yjfgCXr5SIV3ytkaccf5BDuQN2wSyleEiBQ0rbY++lY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ENZKWvwrvF+Mpd5B+EXxDTxsccaQoJ6Vk+7RHRrGOXzBtaeaR45nLTSL25DBIuKoA HBCWzewjtA93IMIa7NPWXv8wE/lL0O02XFbnGPMaeAti4dmhW+8jccGpRi+Jz/uzPM R3N+jX8+hxpOAP0X2LGXIqkyxdjNmCJv+08fqU1Q= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:53:02 -0700 From: mjoras Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC/ALPN Version Specific Transport Parameters (#3965) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f2049de87897_5a5016f8648492"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mjoras X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:53:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f2049de87897_5a5016f8648492 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with @DavidSchinazi. I'm not in love with the current transport parameters, but I don't see an abundant reason to change them at this point. I similarly don't think they are actually that coupled to TLS or the QUIC version. As David notes, the interpretation is inherently QUIC-version dependent. We could, for example, completely ditch transport parameters in the TLS extension for QUIC v2 and instead opt for a TransportSettings frame. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3965#issuecomment-665122044 ----==_mimepart_5f2049de87897_5a5016f8648492 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree with @DavidSchinazi. I'm not in love with the current transport parameters, but I don't see an abundant reason to change them at this point. I similarly don't think they are actually that coupled to TLS or the QUIC version. As David notes, the interpretation is inherently QUIC-version dependent.

We could, for example, completely ditch transport parameters in the TLS extension for QUIC v2 and instead opt for a TransportSettings frame.

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----==_mimepart_5f2049de87897_5a5016f8648492-- From nobody Tue Jul 28 08:53:32 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BE73A0E1B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:53:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6ZsV3CU8Rnoa for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1755F3A0E4A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-52827f8.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.108.24]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199185C0ED9 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:53:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595951602; bh=Cqv5j8LeQmqv0z5zJAH1P8x25sgu//Zh8AbQp0i2aSQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=08Wn8Xtbcha23VOLM3ChQMPCyw9hDSuMdFKW4R7xIakVue4Nh9YO0Z5fRm9mFm1Xt k/W01DkK4YWBRaoD9WVHja447fA3TerWKFYgBBxk2jKjQ4g0InCkgZOfA6FEayVlXD rmwahUSHaWxQ8pzTEd/d8jmJZxmQNa7eYwWQQojw= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:53:22 -0700 From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC/ALPN Version Specific Transport Parameters (#3965) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f2049f28f11_48ea16f8368580"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:53:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f2049f28f11_48ea16f8368580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For the multiple QUIC versions, my understanding of the direction of version negotiation was that the client would use one version, but include the list of supported versions in its TPs. Then the server could negotiate that to a different QUIC version than the one used in the client initial packet. In that scenario, it would require the TP set to be valid for all versions that the server could negotiate to. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3965#issuecomment-665122236 ----==_mimepart_5f2049f28f11_48ea16f8368580 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

For the multiple QUIC versions, my understanding of the direction of version negotiation was that the client would use one version, but include the list of supported versions in its TPs. Then the server could negotiate that to a different QUIC version than the one used in the client initial packet. In that scenario, it would require the TP set to be valid for all versions that the server could negotiate to.

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@mjoras I agree there are other possible solutions for version 2, but as you point out, they likely require a TLS stack change, which I am trying to avoid.

I guess this could all be pushed to an extension as well. A new transport parameter that encodes the list of version/ALPN specific parameters... I just don't know how you'd handle the extension being optional.

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----==_mimepart_5f204ac1f096c_554116f81071b8-- From nobody Tue Jul 28 09:00:09 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F0C3A0E18 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:00:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xC1FRz82r0-4 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-14.smtp.github.com (out-14.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4808A3A0E61 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-d93c4b6.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d93c4b6.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.47]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35F37A0E28 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:59:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595951995; bh=Xm+4r3AVffmnaaU9o1ytyzZJZPs0s5sS09zv81ev/AU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cvdeBmD8vYRY5DZKcQ3wBlFug1sQP+M3ofFe7vlWk4Vz6ulHXyiY41F1iOS8SeiM2 uing4uVXcwUykJZsDwf8UKXRE/oO3UE1OpjH8kOb4/oa+qtEJv2jqbn8kRALAVHcZ5 vpkii/7vxKaItd52xFhklehUiUL2Wz9+8v3KXBYc= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:59:55 -0700 From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC/ALPN Version Specific Transport Parameters (#3965) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f204b7b8cb5f_554816f8111957"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:00:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f204b7b8cb5f_554816f8111957 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also, I still don't have a solution for the "related protocol" example above without adding extra cross-protocol negotiation logic, where the server app knows that the client was offering P1 and P2, and therefore understands how to consume the "combined" TP set in a protocol specific way. OR, I'd have to completely merge the protocols and do the negotiation at the app layer. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3965#issuecomment-665125954 ----==_mimepart_5f204b7b8cb5f_554816f8111957 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Also, I still don't have a solution for the "related protocol" example above without adding extra cross-protocol negotiation logic, where the server app knows that the client was offering P1 and P2, and therefore understands how to consume the "combined" TP set in a protocol specific way. OR, I'd have to completely merge the protocols and do the negotiation at the app layer.

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----==_mimepart_5f204b7b8cb5f_554816f8111957-- From nobody Tue Jul 28 09:09:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F693A0BEF for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:09:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.573 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.573 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m94LMMsbATE1 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3D093A0E64 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-d1d6e31.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.105.50]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA74B9025AE for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:09:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595952558; bh=AQG+9VhFa13zJ8oe7R2/x7PBrCaCOHLvWjEhyqmEMUs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=upwjq/g4fO1Po0crhkyvYFaifbC+TplMwgb4sXlnvKcSyjgtt+RE+pkXIaVEwRGWf hu+WBcbNhc1yUGJpDwFhco+6zvZYQwJM1mH41T9T42U49CPjYjnTaYLDGvc7otIPZt lxAjwGUfxvO0NMMyne97nQDCSQANlc7tYqdB1BnQ= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:09:18 -0700 From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC/ALPN Version Specific Transport Parameters (#3965) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f204daec8e49_5da16f817213c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:09:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f204daec8e49_5da16f817213c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @nibanks it sounds like you're referring to [compatible version negotiation](https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-version-negotiation-00#section-7), but I don't think your understanding is correct. In that scenario, the client sends a QUICv1 Initial/ClientHello, and then the server can reply with a QUICv2 Initial/ServerHello. That doesn't require the transport parameter meaning to be the same, the server just needs to know that it's using the v1 interpretation, and the client needs to use the v2 interpretation. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3965#issuecomment-665131236 ----==_mimepart_5f204daec8e49_5da16f817213c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@nibanks it sounds like you're referring to compatible version negotiation, but I don't think your understanding is correct. In that scenario, the client sends a QUICv1 Initial/ClientHello, and then the server can reply with a QUICv2 Initial/ServerHello. That doesn't require the transport parameter meaning to be the same, the server just needs to know that it's using the v1 interpretation, and the client needs to use the v2 interpretation.

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----==_mimepart_5f204daec8e49_5da16f817213c-- From nobody Tue Jul 28 09:10:59 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59163A0E64 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:10:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1jpPpIa_Hgc5 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-10.smtp.github.com (out-10.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DD4A3A0E53 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-9d2806a.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-9d2806a.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.102.50]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DAD580EB9 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:10:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595952655; bh=uREjPXJDTgdAF9ZIzdFOOVXq5fO5HyqnVrZD1U6v/iY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=e9CbTnWgkxadHiYHK0qaCkYTBdtbNEpfFGECfHnAmhNYIt4YbVXmAA/QSMbIB1OqE B48NWowIL0MTtXscrvzzaNBHjIIROA6eAVnw755yyzr6OieW3Z9fyMDJO9uXLdpSG1 htzu87cYesG/NWQYQLg3sbhgVnIciAvTVRMhqN00= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:10:55 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC/ALPN Version Specific Transport Parameters (#3965) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f204e0f815a6_749a16f81365d9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:10:58 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f204e0f815a6_749a16f81365d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree to what @DavidSchinazi and @mjoras say. In addition to what they have stated, I'd point out that endpoints can loosen the settings by sending frames after the handshake is complete. Most transport parameters are merely used to communicate the initial values. And for other parameters that communicate the final value (e.g., max_ack_delay), we can add frames for changing the behavior as we find out the needs. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3965#issuecomment-665132085 ----==_mimepart_5f204e0f815a6_749a16f81365d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree to what @DavidSchinazi and @mjoras say. In addition to what they have stated, I'd point out that endpoints can loosen the settings by sending frames after the handshake is complete.

Most transport parameters are merely used to communicate the initial values. And for other parameters that communicate the final value (e.g., max_ack_delay), we can add frames for changing the behavior as we find out the needs.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -877,12 +877,14 @@ similar to a sender's response on a Retransmission Timeout (RTO) in TCP
 
 ## Pacing {#pacing}
 
-This document does not specify a pacer, but it is RECOMMENDED that a sender pace
-sending of all in-flight packets based on input from the congestion
-controller.  Sending multiple packets into the network without any delay between
-them creates a packet burst that might cause short-term congestion and losses.
-Implementations MUST either use pacing or another method to limit such bursts
-to the initial congestion window; see {{initial-cwnd}}.
+A sender SHOULD pace sending of all in-flight packets based on input from the
+congestion controller.
+
+Sending multiple packets into the network without any delay between them creates
+a packet burst that might cause short-term congestion and losses. Senders MUST
+either use pacing or limit such bursts. Senders SHOULD limit bursts to the
+initial congestion window; see {{initial-cwnd}}. A sender with knowledge that

I don't think we should refer to deep buffers. At high data rates in DC the path can process packets at multi-Gbps line rate so even with reasonable buffer sizes the bursts can be absorbed. How about:

"A sender with knowledge that the network path to the receiver can absorb larger bursts may use a higher limit."

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@DavidSchinazi I guess my line of thinking was that instead of just sending v1 (and indicating support for v2) and the server deciding how to migrate the v1 TPs to v2, the client would be able to send both v1 and v2 TPs (or v1 plus whatever extra v2 requires). Then the server doesn't have to migrate the TPs at all. This might even allow for a greater range of compatible versions. Without this, v1 and v2 could be incompatible because of a change in how a TP is used.

I guess if we wanted to go that route, the different TPs could be part of the version negotiation extension draft.

@kazuho applications can theoretically decide how to interpret an initial TP value however it wants. Not allowing for the app to pick different initial values based on the protocol version being used restricts. If that's the direction folks want to go, we should probably at least mention this so that protocols take this into account when designing their v1, so they don't back themselves into a corner.

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Adding some editorial changes to QUICv1 to reflect this discussion sounds like a fine resolution to me

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----==_mimepart_5f205a707b51f_5dca16f838093f-- From nobody Tue Jul 28 10:43:05 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2313A0A66 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 10:43:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.028 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.028 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mQVrMDPtsloa for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 10:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BABB3A0A64 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 10:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b19c547.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B409490268C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 10:43:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595958180; bh=jAR/FhKNa8UT4Cemrr2sqZmuG9+S4xgoV/kcFYGj7go=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ETvk5bXA8tRgB13ACeTm98I8mXx3Xyw4G5nuWqQGwfNkpXT3p9XqauOOSHl1NAqGh 5QJObvlTVJeMvsQ8pr8GLov51edt0Oqrw8KSNvTiFc4uplCvL8Eo2LvWKF6v8ftD/I K7/Wf6qd+Qz5dXmREvli48xwVdkbXPQRj+q+Re10= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 10:43:00 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC/ALPN Version Specific Transport Parameters (#3965) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f2063a4a3f5a_186816f82015d7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:43:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f2063a4a3f5a_186816f82015d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This reminds me of the conversation about putting SETTINGS into TP, which prompted the creation of the ALPS proposal. I'd like to see a future version of QUIC do a better job with both TPs and application settings, but it's way too late to be making such a substantial change to QUIC v1 at this point. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3965#issuecomment-665179782 ----==_mimepart_5f2063a4a3f5a_186816f82015d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This reminds me of the conversation about putting SETTINGS into TP, which prompted the creation of the ALPS proposal.

I'd like to see a future version of QUIC do a better job with both TPs and application settings, but it's way too late to be making such a substantial change to QUIC v1 at this point.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 28 11:18:33 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205F93A0B21 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:18:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.028 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.028 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZbhdCgE6Wzoz for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E6C83A0B19 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-3a0df0f.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.25.92]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711469026A3 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:18:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595960308; bh=rVZ7iPAoLccEcLCGSDzufz8I6Gz9og1TUxaSshs7hxA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=By/5iDR1egtAJ2nFkxTzTktier2nsrNzHkBCM0/oBib77gupu0A7AsmMO+mZUbUl8 UmJVX8uql378+ff6gxq7RkfLrK6ZxH6clmebBTp9Z0972SxiveZeratl/Z09nafBeB gb5s7FBjW3sQthDWmeWoq0lhTNZgzmqE4Rkw+FA4= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:18:28 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] unclear definition of persistent congestion (#3937) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f206bf460d45_7a0a16f8971a6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:18:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f206bf460d45_7a0a16f8971a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is fixed in #3961, and is an editorial fix. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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This is fixed in #3961, and is an editorial fix.

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#3961 fixes this by clarifying that persistent congestion is across PN spaces. Since the resolution in #3961 introduces normative language, I would mark this as design.

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@afrind approved this pull request.

QPACK changes look ok, with a minor comment

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

> @@ -1153,7 +1153,7 @@ represented as a 4-bit prefix string literal, then the value, represented as an
 
 #  Configuration
 
-QPACK defines two settings which are included in the HTTP/3 SETTINGS frame.
+QPACK defines two settings that are included in the HTTP/3 SETTINGS frame:

Seems a bit strange, since it seems to imply that these SETTINGS are always present.

Would this be better:

"QPACK defines two settings for the HTTP/3 SETTINGS frame" ?

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A= n=0D +application that trickles data restarts the PTO timer repeatedly, preven= ting the=0D =0D nit: Is everyone going to understand trickle in this context?=0D =0D > +The RECOMMENDED value for kPersistentCongestionThreshold is 3, which i= s=0D +approximately equivalent to two TLPs before an RTO in TCP.=0D +=0D +This design uses an explicit duration instead of consecutive PTO events = since=0D +the PTO timer is restarted every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent. A= n=0D +application that trickles data restarts the PTO timer repeatedly, preven= ting the=0D +PTO timer from expiring for a potentially long period of time. A consequ= ence of=0D +this design is that persistent congestion can be established without the= =0D +occurrence of any PTOs.=0D +=0D +### Declaring Persistent Congestion=0D +=0D +A sender declares persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement,= if the=0D +following conditions are true:=0D +=0D +* there are at least two ack-eliciting packets that are declared lost;=0D= =0D How=C2=A0could this not be true given other requirements?=0D Also should this be kPersisentCongestion - 1?=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3961#pullrequestreview-4568788= 48= ----==_mimepart_5f206e49202e9_4fa516f8146686 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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@ianswett approved this pull request.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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> +This duration is intended to allow a send=
er to use initial PTOs for aggressive=0D
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-This duration is intended to allow a sender t=
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-probing, as TCP does with Tail Loss Probe (TLP; see {{RACK}}), before=0D=

+This duration is intended to allow a sender to use one or more PTOs for=0D=

+probing, as TCP does with Tail Loss Probe (TLP; see {{RACK}}), before=0D=
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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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>  max_ack_delay irrespective of the packet =
number spaces in which losses are=0D
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+This duration is intended to allow a sender to use initial PTOs for aggr=
essive=0D
+probing, as TCP does with Tail Loss Probe (TLP; see {{RACK}}), before=0D=

+establishing persistent congestion, as TCP does with a Retransmission Ti=
meout=0D
+(RTO; see {{?RFC5681}}).=0D
+=0D
+The RECOMMENDED value for kPersistentCongestionThreshold is 3, which is=0D=

+approximately equivalent to two TLPs before an RTO in TCP.=0D
+=0D
+This design uses an explicit duration instead of consecutive PTO events =
since=0D
+the PTO timer is restarted every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent. A=
n=0D
+application that trickles data restarts the PTO timer repeatedly, preven=
ting the=0D
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nit: Is everyone going to understand trickle in this context?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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> +The RECOMMENDED value for kPersistentCong=
estionThreshold is 3, which is=0D
+approximately equivalent to two TLPs before an RTO in TCP.=0D
+=0D
+This design uses an explicit duration instead of consecutive PTO events =
since=0D
+the PTO timer is restarted every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent. A=
n=0D
+application that trickles data restarts the PTO timer repeatedly, preven=
ting the=0D
+PTO timer from expiring for a potentially long period of time. A consequ=
ence of=0D
+this design is that persistent congestion can be established without the=
=0D
+occurrence of any PTOs.=0D
+=0D
+### Declaring Persistent Congestion=0D
+=0D
+A sender declares persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement,=
 if the=0D
+following conditions are true:=0D
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+* there are at least two ack-eliciting packets that are declared lost;=0D=
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How=C2=A0could this not be true given other requirements?
=0D Also should this be kPersisentCongestion - 1?

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If someone wants to propose an editorial PR we can consider it as an editorial issue. Failing that I sense we can live with the document as is.

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----==_mimepart_5f20708b1a845_661416f88726c-- From nobody Tue Jul 28 11:40:24 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C673A0B85 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:40:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iHehcSQO9c37 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E54F53A0B40 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-cf59896.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-cf59896.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.112.26]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE9F520F33 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:40:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595961620; bh=gRQYX6IYLY6t/W3N2fxozsNfW3qJ9NXNy6nrCTgxS9Y=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=u2RBoTxnH7zAOe8mTqiTLWnCf731ClFTP+JVRAPEGCLR0sSgU11n54aRv4xc8KYWf dTSkVpECaDeSsu1b+L3qYpwGw4skBR9arX2ww+KLc1dNKeWFTrSG2QMyM2pHnntZop 1P2Ka8nCN8WmbF9/XyvufHYKxGJwIeMfA1epwRqA= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:40:20 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify HTTP/2 setting parameter reservation (#3955) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f2071141c4c0_4bd716f849367"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:40:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f2071141c4c0_4bd716f849367 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @LPardue points out that SETTINGS and frames are different, because of tunneling intermediaries. The intermediary need not check every received frame for validity if they're not processing the frames. SETTINGS, on the other hand, have to be checked because they're inherently hop-by-hop. While I'm not crazy about having SETTINGS and frames be different, there is at least a justification for it. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3955#issuecomment-665209707 ----==_mimepart_5f2071141c4c0_4bd716f849367 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@LPardue points out that SETTINGS and frames are different, because of tunneling intermediaries. The intermediary need not check every received frame for validity if they're not processing the frames. SETTINGS, on the other hand, have to be checked because they're inherently hop-by-hop. While I'm not crazy about having SETTINGS and frames be different, there is at least a justification for it.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Jul 28 11:58:54 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0458A3A0B44 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:58:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.12 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.12 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lQ6WVqPJI5A9 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78B843A0B41 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a6a2749.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a6a2749.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.62]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88023E1DEB for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:58:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595962730; bh=Mvi41WQb0Tn6btwRIAOsjzSRs1sOYqKDjcH/MYrmcHk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=L0+ka8slIUT9i1WfF5BzpsJDtB29Z5EZBs4zK+3fhnF/v06dDYB6TqFkdEknZr2Un YlZPtA/Hyy7c/9vD71fuPZpLnZA9VPqfk7TJL6hIkzQG03sdRVRPz7av8zCOnTMExo Is8XyonBkCxrFddQe0BX/MWh4XoGcZ8/BqI4fxOo= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:58:50 -0700 From: Mike Bishop Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Editorial fixes for quic-http (#3960) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f20756a7681d_16916f881616"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: MikeBishop X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:58:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f20756a7681d_16916f881616 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit These are separate issues, so let's look at them separately: > * Ambiguous description with `MAY` for user agents in [server-push](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/blob/e0aa78966fc74475b6a5ef8d12d9472497cdfd2d/draft-ietf-quic-http.md#server-push): > > It'd be better to remove or clarify rather than ambiguously allowing user agents with `MAY`. > > > These associations do not affect the operation of the protocol, **but MAY be considered by user agents when deciding how to use pushed resources** This is deliberately vague, and the reason is explicitly stated. They don't affect the operation of the protocol, but user agents are allowed to make use of the associations in implementation-specific ways. This reflects HTTP/2, where some browsers use the association and some do not. > * A bit misleading expression with `MAY` in [connection-shutdown](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/blob/e0aa78966fc74475b6a5ef8d12d9472497cdfd2d/draft-ietf-quic-http.md#connection-shutdown) > > > Endpoints MUST NOT initiate new requests or promise new pushes on the connection after receipt of a GOAWAY frame from the peer. **Clients MAY establish a new connection to send additional requests**. > > This sentence looks to readers like that clients MAY send same requests on another connection even when the server keeps canceling or something regardless of clients' requests. There should be additional sentences no matter if it's the expected behavior or not. Here again, I'm not seeing the problem. The requests have been canceled -- effectively "unsent" on this connection. If the client still needs to make those requests, they can't send them on this connection, but they MAY open a new connection. > * Some phrases in [connection-shutdown](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/blob/e0aa78966fc74475b6a5ef8d12d9472497cdfd2d/draft-ietf-quic-http.md#connection-shutdown) look verbose and confusing > > > Upon receipt of a GOAWAY frame, if the client has already sent requests with a Stream ID greater than or equal to the identifier **received in a GOAWAY frame** > > > If a server receives a GOAWAY frame after having promised pushes with a Push ID greater than or equal to the identifier **received in a GOAWAY frame** "received in a" -> "contained in the" would help here, unless you had a suggestion for making it tighter. The final issue is unrelated to these drafts, and is something the Tools server does. 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These are separate issues, so let's look at them separately:

  • Ambiguous description with MAY for user agents in server-push:

It'd be better to remove or clarify rather than ambiguously allowing user agents with MAY.

These associations do not affect the operation of the protocol, but MAY be considered by user agents when deciding how to use pushed resources

This is deliberately vague, and the reason is explicitly stated. They don't affect the operation of the protocol, but user agents are allowed to make use of the associations in implementation-specific ways. This reflects HTTP/2, where some browsers use the association and some do not.

Endpoints MUST NOT initiate new requests or promise new pushes on the connection after receipt of a GOAWAY frame from the peer. Clients MAY establish a new connection to send additional requests.

This sentence looks to readers like that clients MAY send same requests on another connection even when the server keeps canceling or something regardless of clients' requests. There should be additional sentences no matter if it's the expected behavior or not.

Here again, I'm not seeing the problem. The requests have been canceled -- effectively "unsent" on this connection. If the client still needs to make those requests, they can't send them on this connection, but they MAY open a new connection.

Upon receipt of a GOAWAY frame, if the client has already sent requests with a Stream ID greater than or equal to the identifier received in a GOAWAY frame

If a server receives a GOAWAY frame after having promised pushes with a Push ID greater than or equal to the identifier received in a GOAWAY frame

"received in a" -> "contained in the" would help here, unless you had a suggestion for making it tighter.

The final issue is unrelated to these drafts, and is something the Tools server does. If you see an incorrect reference in the text draft or Editor's Copy HTML, please do point them out.

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Permanent registrations in this registry SHOULD +include the following field: @martinthomson, did you have a different suggested arrangement or can I resolve this comment? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3942#discussion_r461806852 ----==_mimepart_5f2076fa8802a_69d716f8342d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@MikeBishop commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +includes two additional fields. Permanent registrations in this registry SHOULD
+include the following field:

@martinthomson, did you have a different suggested arrangement or can I resolve this comment?

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(#3959) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f207e311962f_49a616f823369e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 19:36:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f207e311962f_49a616f823369e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @janaiyengar commented on this pull request. A couple of suggestions > @@ -519,8 +519,9 @@ immediately. A sender recomputes and may need to reset its PTO timer every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent or acknowledged, when the handshake is confirmed, or when Initial or Handshake keys are discarded. This ensures the PTO is always -set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent packet in the -correct packet number space. +set based on the latest RTT information and for the last sent ack-eliciting +packet in the correct packet number space. When the PTO expires and there are +no ack-eliciting packets in flight, the PTO is set from the current time. ```suggestion no ack-eliciting packets in flight, the PTO is set from that moment. ``` > @@ -591,15 +592,10 @@ client, it is the client's responsibility to send packets to unblock the server until it is certain that the server has finished its address validation (see Section 8 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}). That is, the client MUST set the probe timer if the client has not received an acknowledgement for one of its -Handshake or 1-RTT packets, and has not received a HANDSHAKE_DONE frame. -If Handshake keys are available to the client, it MUST send a Handshake -packet, and otherwise it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of -at least 1200 bytes. - -A client could have received and acknowledged a Handshake packet, causing it to -discard state for the Initial packet number space, but not sent any -ack-eliciting Handshake packets. In this case, the PTO timer is armed from the -time that the Initial packet number space is discarded. +Handshake or 1-RTT packets, and has not received a HANDSHAKE_DONE frame, ```suggestion Handshake or 1-RTT packets and has not received a HANDSHAKE_DONE frame, ``` > +even if there are no packets in flight. If Handshake keys are available to the +client, it MUST send a Handshake packet, and otherwise it MUST send an Initial +packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. ```suggestion even if there are no packets in flight. When the PTO fires, the client MUST send a Handshake packet if it has Handshake keys, otherwise it MUST send an Initial packet in a UDP datagram of at least 1200 bytes. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3959#pullrequestreview-456921344 ----==_mimepart_5f207e311962f_49a616f823369e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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@junhochoi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

In the scenario @martinthomson mentioned, I think the problem with small increase is that it can result in a small sized packets.

e.g. bytes_in_flight = 10000, ssthresh = cwnd = 10000, mss = 1000
-> received ack of 1000 bytes
-> byts_in_flight = 9000, cwnd = 10100

Now sender can send 1100 bytes, can result in sending 2 packets, with 1000 bytes and 100 bytes each when there is a enough size of data is ready. The pseudocode in this PR doesn't have such issue.

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@junhochoi commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

Briefly tested using quiche (cloudflare/quiche#610) -- when downloading 10Mbytes file using 10Mbit/40ms link, total # of sender packets can be reduced by 14% (mostly small packets than MSS) with slightly better performance.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +acknowledged. This includes packets that are acknowledged after being declared
+lost. Doing so requires senders to retain information about packets after they
+are declared lost. A sender can discard this information after a period of time
+elapses, such as a PTO (Section 6.2 of {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or on other events,
+such as reaching a memory limit.

Ok, added some rationale.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -877,12 +877,14 @@ similar to a sender's response on a Retransmission Timeout (RTO) in TCP
 
 ## Pacing {#pacing}
 
-This document does not specify a pacer, but it is RECOMMENDED that a sender pace
-sending of all in-flight packets based on input from the congestion
-controller.  Sending multiple packets into the network without any delay between
-them creates a packet burst that might cause short-term congestion and losses.
-Implementations MUST either use pacing or another method to limit such bursts
-to the initial congestion window; see {{initial-cwnd}}.
+A sender SHOULD pace sending of all in-flight packets based on input from the
+congestion controller.
+
+Sending multiple packets into the network without any delay between them creates
+a packet burst that might cause short-term congestion and losses. Senders MUST
+either use pacing or limit such bursts. Senders SHOULD limit bursts to the
+initial congestion window; see {{initial-cwnd}}. A sender with knowledge that

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Sending multiple packets into the network without any delay between -them creates a packet burst that might cause short-term congestion and losses. -Implementations MUST either use pacing or another method to limit such bursts -to the initial congestion window; see {{initial-cwnd}}. +A sender SHOULD pace sending of all in-flight packets based on input from the +congestion controller. + +Sending multiple packets into the network without any delay between them creates +a packet burst that might cause short-term congestion and losses. Senders MUST +either use pacing or limit such bursts. Senders SHOULD limit bursts to the +initial congestion window; see {{initial-cwnd}}. A sender with knowledge that +the network path to the receiver can absorb larger bursts may use a higher ```suggestion the network path to the receiver can absorb larger bursts MAY use a higher ``` Or change it to a can. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@mjoras commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  max_ack_delay irrespective of the packet number spaces in which losses are
 established.
 
+This duration is intended to allow a sender to use initial PTOs for aggressive
+probing, as TCP does with Tail Loss Probe (TLP; see {{RACK}}), before
+establishing persistent congestion, as TCP does with a Retransmission Timeout
+(RTO; see {{?RFC5681}}).
+
+The RECOMMENDED value for kPersistentCongestionThreshold is 3, which is
+approximately equivalent to two TLPs before an RTO in TCP.
+
+This design uses an explicit duration instead of consecutive PTO events since
+the PTO timer is restarted every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent. An
+application that trickles data restarts the PTO timer repeatedly, preventing the

Yeah I think this paragraph is a little confusing. I think the intent is basically suggesting that an application which itself is steadily writing relatively small amounts of data into the transport will perpetuate the PTO timer, and hence detecting persistent congestion should not depend on this. However the use of "application" and "trickle" together is probably going to be confusing to some.

Additionally it seems like the first sentence and the last sort of overlap, which makes the paragraph read a little strangely.

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +The RECOMMENDED value for kPersistentCongestionThreshold is 3, which is
+approximately equivalent to two TLPs before an RTO in TCP.
+
+This design uses an explicit duration instead of consecutive PTO events since
+the PTO timer is restarted every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent. An
+application that trickles data restarts the PTO timer repeatedly, preventing the
+PTO timer from expiring for a potentially long period of time. A consequence of
+this design is that persistent congestion can be established without the
+occurrence of any PTOs.
+
+### Declaring Persistent Congestion
+
+A sender declares persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement, if the
+following conditions are true:
+
+* there are at least two ack-eliciting packets that are declared lost;

This could be any number of packets, but the two are the edges -- the earliest and the latest that we consider for the interval.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  max_ack_delay irrespective of the packet number spaces in which losses are
 established.
 
+This duration is intended to allow a sender to use initial PTOs for aggressive
+probing, as TCP does with Tail Loss Probe (TLP; see {{RACK}}), before
+establishing persistent congestion, as TCP does with a Retransmission Timeout
+(RTO; see {{?RFC5681}}).
+
+The RECOMMENDED value for kPersistentCongestionThreshold is 3, which is
+approximately equivalent to two TLPs before an RTO in TCP.
+
+This design uses an explicit duration instead of consecutive PTO events since
+the PTO timer is restarted every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent. An
+application that trickles data restarts the PTO timer repeatedly, preventing the

I've reworded the para, PTAL.

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An +application that sends data with silence periods can restart the PTO timer every +time it sends, potentially preventing the PTO timer from expiring for a long +period of time. A consequence of this design is that persistent congestion can +be established without the occurrence of any PTOs. + +### Declaring Persistent Congestion + +A sender declares persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement, if the +following conditions are true: + +* there are at least two ack-eliciting packets that are declared lost; We could make it a separate condition -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3961#discussion_r461987465 ----==_mimepart_5f20d33a25de3_28b516f81423c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +The RECOMMENDED value for kPersistentCongestionThreshold is 3, which is
+approximately equivalent to two TLPs before an RTO in TCP.
+
+This design uses an explicit duration instead of consecutive PTO events since
+the PTO timer is restarted every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent. An
+application that sends data with silence periods can restart the PTO timer every
+time it sends, potentially preventing the PTO timer from expiring for a long
+period of time. A consequence of this design is that persistent congestion can
+be established without the occurrence of any PTOs.
+
+### Declaring Persistent Congestion
+
+A sender declares persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement, if the
+following conditions are true:
+
+* there are at least two ack-eliciting packets that are declared lost;

We could make it a separate condition

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OnLossDetectionTimeout in the recovery draft always calls SetLossDetectionTimer, resulting in an infinite loop which continues even after the connection is closed. It would be nice if conditions such as if (connection is open): are added or comments are added.

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +The RECOMMENDED value for kPersistentCongestionThreshold is 3, which is
+approximately equivalent to two TLPs before an RTO in TCP.
+
+This design uses an explicit duration instead of consecutive PTO events since
+the PTO timer is restarted every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent. An
+application that sends data with silence periods can restart the PTO timer every
+time it sends, potentially preventing the PTO timer from expiring for a long
+period of time. A consequence of this design is that persistent congestion can
+be established without the occurrence of any PTOs.
+
+### Declaring Persistent Congestion
+
+A sender declares persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement, if the
+following conditions are true:
+
+* there are at least two ack-eliciting packets that are declared lost;

That works. I use the form of review comment just to make sure that this requirement would be incorporated.

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This PR makes a function name in recovery follow the naming convention.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3968

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  • CongestionEvent -> OnCongestionEvent

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----==_mimepart_5f20d57f928db_796a16f81252aa-- From nobody Tue Jul 28 18:59:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1333A0E7B for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:59:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qFK1HoS4hi81 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-17.smtp.github.com (out-17.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A0AD3A0E74 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-5fb2734.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5fb2734.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.19.27]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D5F5C019A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:59:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595987978; bh=SljSMMMwueC2yLnckW9ouJewZzs4SPOdAAahViwSisw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=0bX9Qi6AD/liqru+bLDEE3Tv9dfsFPkWxRPdQXxP1GT68RyskXxKBkr5gmn//XZ5/ As8QU2yt8re2A65N/mKOmi8YIrflERoY+z9U6U/E2g9oVy8qlThUcm/rHyu/VplcZv zxoF7qNiJk2MJ6iOYyGtSLZsNJS5ARl/3lJsIIYY= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:59:38 -0700 From: Kazu Yamamoto Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] loss_detection_timer.update in recovery (#3969) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f20d80ab2fe0_796416f8238311"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazu-yamamoto X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 01:59:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f20d80ab2fe0_796416f8238311 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When a client is downloading a large contents from a server, the server sends `STREAM` repeatedly and the client sends `ACK` repeatedly. In this situation, `time_of_last_ack_eliciting_packet` is not updated in the client side. So, `timeout - now()`in `loss_detection_timer.update` can be a non-positive timeout value. It seems to me that it is unclear how `loss_detection_timer.update` should behave when timeout value is non-positive. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3969 ----==_mimepart_5f20d80ab2fe0_796416f8238311 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

When a client is downloading a large contents from a server, the server sends STREAM repeatedly and the client sends ACK repeatedly. In this situation, time_of_last_ack_eliciting_packet is not updated in the client side. So, timeout - now()in loss_detection_timer.update can be a non-positive timeout value.

It seems to me that it is unclear how loss_detection_timer.update should behave when timeout value is non-positive.

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SetLossDetectionTimer cancels the timer when there are no ack-eliciting packets in flight, so I can't see how this would create an infinite loop. I'd prefer to not further complicate the pseudo-code here for this corner case.

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To summarize, it seems that people are generally not philosophically opposed to fixing this issue, but the solution needs to be simple and be compatible with the current behavior.

@MikeBishop has a PR that has one point unresolved -- what to do about SPA that is of a different protocol family.

I would like to propose a simple but workable solution. When "disable [active] migration" bit is set on the SPA, the client has to use the handshake source address if it is of the same address family as the SPA address it is migrating to. If SPA is of a different address family, the client will have to change the source address but then stick with it for the duration of the connection.

If the server's need to prohibit active migration with SPA is due to the client's need to keep the same source address, the server will only return an SPA of the same address family and set "disable [active] migration" bit. If the server is only concerned with the client staying on the same network, it can return a different-family SPA (and set "disable [active] migration" bit), since the chances are excellent the client will stay with the same network when it migrates very soon after the handshake completes.

(In case the client tries to migrate to another address family and ends up on an unacceptable network, the server can probe the original path. If the original path is valid, the server would ignore packets coming on the new path, and the client would fail back to the original path. If the original path is no longer valid, the server would close the connection on the new path. The result would be a hiccup for the client, but this would happen rarely.)

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SetLossDetectionTimer only sets a timer when there are ack-eliciting packets in flight. This is not the case on the client side in the scenario you describe, so you wouldn't set a timer in the first place.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +The RECOMMENDED value for kPersistentCongestionThreshold is 3, which is
+approximately equivalent to two TLPs before an RTO in TCP.
+
+This design uses an explicit duration instead of consecutive PTO events since
+the PTO timer is restarted every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent. An
+application that sends data with silence periods can restart the PTO timer every
+time it sends, potentially preventing the PTO timer from expiring for a long
+period of time. A consequence of this design is that persistent congestion can
+be established without the occurrence of any PTOs.
+
+### Declaring Persistent Congestion
+
+A sender declares persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement, if the
+following conditions are true:
+
+* there are at least two ack-eliciting packets that are declared lost;

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This includes packets that are acknowledged after being declared +lost, which can happen in the presence of network reordering. Doing so requires +senders to retain information about packets after they are declared lost. A That's a run-on sentence. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3957#discussion_r461996220 ----==_mimepart_5f20dae0c2cf2_652d16f81993f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +acknowledged. This includes packets that are acknowledged after being declared
+lost, which can happen in the presence of network reordering. Doing so requires
+senders to retain information about packets after they are declared lost. A

That's a run-on sentence.

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This got no pushback and support, FWIW. Note that this resolution makes this issue a design one, so I'm removing the editorial tag. ``` Problems: During the handshake, an endpoint can receive packets (carrying data or acknowledgements) that it cannot decrypt because the requisite keys are not yet available. This can happen because the crypto machinery at the endpoint is waiting for earlier packets to be received to yield the keys. Similarly, a client might not be able to read 1-RTT packets received from the server because it is waiting for certificate validation to complete. 1. The assumption in the TLS specification is that when an endpoint is busy doing something (certificate validation or key generation for instance), it won't be able to respond to received packets with acknowledgements (Section 4.1.4). Contrary to the assumption in the spec, Chrome and Firefox both process the certificate chain asynchronously, and therefore acks handshake packets immediately, even the ones that arrive after they have started verifying the certificate chain. But they buffer 1-RTT packets, and therefore the issue exists for 1-RTT packets. As a result, there's potential delay, sometimes significant, in responding to some packets during the handshake. There are two side effects of this. S1. First, this means that an endpoint that runs a PTO timer and retransmits data for 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets while the handshake is still in progress might be doing this quite unnecessarily. The peer may well have received this data and have queued it, waiting to be able to decrypt it. S2. Second, acks for these packets that are buffered and then later decrypted and read can be sent much later than when the packets were received at the peer, causing the ack_delay to potentially be much higher than the advertised max_ack_delay. The endpoint ignores ack_delay larger than max_ack_delay, and this inflates the smoothed_rtt and rtt_variance, potentially inflating the PTO significantly (which can cause handshakes to fail if the endpoint employs a "handshake timeout" period). Proposed Solutions: S1. To solve the first problem, we already have a condition in the recovery draft to _not_ arm the PTO on 1-RTT data until the handshake is complete (Section 6.2.1). This is not quite adequate, since it still allows a client to arm a PTO timer on 1-RTT data on sending a CFIN and 1-RTT data, before ensuring that the server has received the CFIN. The proposed solution here is to change this condition from "handshake complete" to "handshake confirmed". Meaning that an endpoint only arms a PTO timer on 0-RTT or 1-RTT data when it knows that the peer has the keys necessary to read and write in 1-RTT, and can therefore respond with an ACK. We think this holds up, but we'd like to get this under everyone's eyes, to ensure that the discussion isn't missing subtle deadlock issues. S2. To solve the second problem, the proposal is to use ack_delay as reported by the endpoint that buffers the data appropriately. ack_delay is the amount of the time the information (regardless of that being the packet itself or the acknowledgement) being buffered intentionally. For this, we need the following: - endpoints MUST report an ack_delay that is the sum of the controlled delay (i.e. the duration of the data and the ack being buffered) - endpoints ignore max_ack_delay for acknowledgements of packets that were sent prior to handshake confirmation. Those are the ones that might have been buffered at the peer until keys were ready. In addition, we explicitly recommend endpoints that asynchronously process handshake messages to buffer 1-RTT packets, instead of dropping them, as dropping packets has significant impact on congestion control. Note that this matches what those implementations already do. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3821#issuecomment-665393532 ----==_mimepart_5f20dea0e0b33_1c8516f814995c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Posting the email I sent out to the list here, FTR. This got no pushback and support, FWIW. Note that this resolution makes this issue a design one, so I'm removing the editorial tag.

Problems:

During the handshake, an endpoint can receive packets (carrying data or acknowledgements) that it cannot decrypt because the requisite keys are not yet available. This can happen because the crypto machinery at the endpoint is waiting for earlier packets to be received to yield the keys. Similarly, a client might not be able to read 1-RTT packets received from the server because it is waiting for certificate validation to complete.

1. The assumption in the TLS specification is that when an endpoint is busy doing something (certificate validation or key generation for instance), it won't be able to respond to received packets with acknowledgements (Section 4.1.4).

Contrary to the assumption in the spec, Chrome and Firefox both process the certificate chain asynchronously, and therefore acks handshake packets immediately, even the ones that arrive after they have started verifying the certificate chain. But they buffer 1-RTT packets, and therefore the issue exists for 1-RTT packets.

As a result, there's potential delay, sometimes significant, in responding to some packets during the handshake. There are two side effects of this.


S1. First, this means that an endpoint that runs a PTO timer and retransmits data for 0-RTT and 1-RTT packets while the handshake is still in progress might be doing this quite unnecessarily. The peer may well have received this data and have queued it, waiting to be able to decrypt it. 


S2. Second, acks for these packets that are buffered and then later decrypted and read can be sent much later than when the packets were received at the peer, causing the ack_delay to potentially be much higher than the advertised max_ack_delay. The endpoint ignores ack_delay larger than max_ack_delay, and this inflates the smoothed_rtt and rtt_variance, potentially inflating the PTO significantly (which can cause handshakes to fail if the endpoint employs a "handshake timeout" period).


Proposed Solutions:

S1. To solve the first problem, we already have a condition in the recovery draft to _not_ arm the PTO on 1-RTT data until the handshake is complete (Section 6.2.1). This is not quite adequate, since it still allows a client to arm a PTO timer on 1-RTT data on sending a CFIN and 1-RTT data, before ensuring that the server has received the CFIN. The proposed solution here is to change this condition from "handshake complete" to "handshake confirmed". Meaning that an endpoint only arms a PTO timer on 0-RTT or 1-RTT data when it knows that the peer has the keys necessary to read and write in 1-RTT, and can therefore respond with an ACK.

We think this holds up, but we'd like to get this under everyone's eyes, to ensure that the discussion isn't missing subtle deadlock issues.


S2. To solve the second problem, the proposal is to use ack_delay as reported by the endpoint that buffers the data appropriately. ack_delay is the amount of the time the information (regardless of that being the packet itself or the acknowledgement) being buffered intentionally. For this, we need the following:

- endpoints MUST report an ack_delay that is the sum of the controlled delay (i.e. the duration of the data and the ack being buffered)

- endpoints ignore max_ack_delay for acknowledgements of packets that were sent prior to handshake confirmation. Those are the ones that might have been buffered at the peer until keys were ready.

In addition, we explicitly recommend endpoints that asynchronously process handshake messages to buffer 1-RTT packets, instead of dropping them, as dropping packets has significant impact on congestion control. Note that this matches what those implementations already do.

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@marten-seemann You are right. My interpretation and implementation was wrong. Thank you for pointing out.

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Closed #3967.

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The same as #3967. Let's close. Thanks.

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@martinthomson noted:

> - endpoints ignore max_ack_delay for acknowledgements of packets that
> were sent prior to handshake confirmation. Those are the ones that
> might have been buffered at the peer until keys were ready.

For this, endpoints need to retain an additional value: the highest packet number
that was sent prior to confirmation (or the lowest packet number sent after confirmation).

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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +
+This design does not use consecutive PTO events to establish persistent
+congestion, since a PTO expiration is controlled by application patterns in
+addition to network activity. For example, a sender that sends small amounts of
+data with silence periods between them restarts the PTO timer every time it
+sends, potentially preventing the PTO timer from expiring for a long period of
+time, even when no acknowledgments are being received. The use of a duration
+enables a sender to establish persistent congestion without depending on the
+occurrence of PTOs.
+
+### Establishing Persistent Congestion
+
+A sender establishes persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement, if
+the following conditions are true:
+
+* a prior RTT sample exists;

More specific: a RTT sample existed at the time the first packet of the range was sent

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I'm not seeing an action for me in this discussion. I will of course review any PR that someone proposes, but it seems like the minefield is sufficiently well mapped out already.

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I'm sorry @MikeBishop, that makes no sense. You can't pick and choose which parts of a protocol you understand.

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----==_mimepart_5f20edac89ba4_664016f884146-- From nobody Tue Jul 28 20:34:57 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE21B3A0B3C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 20:34:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8vYP9xAw20ec for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 20:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82F543A0B38 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 20:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a6a2749.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a6a2749.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.62]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313C98401FD for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 20:34:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595993692; bh=e49powiQ8feokZUjKvUtTfhtoOa0jq5GdueoPLCtutc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=k3+CIyCe4lt4sH0k0f22N88Jo2ApVma9lbu0k+q44hPKsnm2XSjjfA4PfQsxu6A95 VxdaaYnZkKoIp4DehUr/79e8auFv9DZZk1gTCQlOQ06Td676g41ov5hM27SACwz5CB gOHa5aMnghcjxYHpaESgr4EGEBUIhQ+BC0bKvBbo= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 20:34:52 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Editorial nits for HTTP (#3942) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f20ee5c20038_735816f82064f4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 03:34:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f20ee5c20038_735816f82064f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson commented on this pull request. > +includes two additional fields. Permanent registrations in this registry SHOULD +include the following field: No, I will resolve it. It's just odd, that's all. I would have said it was easier to require permanent registrations to have a name. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3942#discussion_r462017700 ----==_mimepart_5f20ee5c20038_735816f82064f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> +includes two additional fields. Permanent registrations in this registry SHOULD
+include the following field:

No, I will resolve it. It's just odd, that's all. I would have said it was easier to require permanent registrations to have a name.

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@MikeBishop, if you are OK with this, merge it. You are the last one.

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To summarize, I think talking about resetting min_rtt might be fine, though I am not sure if that discussion should be tied to persistent congestion.

To give a specific example, one problem that I know with the current definition of min_rtt is that it cannot detect and correct RTT estimate of a congested path.

The sole purpose of min_rtt is to discard excessive ack-delays being reported by the receiver. This works by capping the lower bound of adjusted_rtt to min_rtt. The problem here is that min_rtt is a value that is typically collected when the path is almost idle. Once the path becomes congested, the true RTT becomes much greater than min_rtt.

For instance, if RTT-on-idle is 10ms and if RTT-on-congestion is 50ms, min_rtt would be 10ms, and therefore cannot be used to correct RTT estimates when the peer reports an excessive ack_delay of, say 25ms. The RTT estimate would become 25ms in such case.

I tend to think that this might be a bigger problem of the original issue, and therefore that we should state that an endpoint can periodically re-collect min_rtt estimates, if we are to make a change to the current definition of min_rtt.

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----==_mimepart_5f20eec169d76_613716f828341c-- From nobody Tue Jul 28 21:29:11 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACE63A0B89 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:29:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.118 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.118 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X2ICdfSBB6qK for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE0C83A0B81 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-6b40fdd.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.64]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E414900D91 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:29:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1595996946; bh=cFYkqmnf7yjQQQWxJ1MNh5uqF/tMqWoYTUUCvZTJKSk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=rZIIBUmVmuTs2MyzECKrR0Pl5CNMKtRdgj3A9sy3WUrkMeMvDyjBXfhtOQd7kNcmR 50AWJXUNjeLsF6JMt/bOqLgZRXrqb75Tcrr+AyawDjycw6z3+hlKXhMhAP++T7lArM y9c0y3hFrsrjUgeplp8yc2BMgY6/becQjDO+DtWM= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:29:06 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Definition of ack-delay is incorrect (#3970) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f20fb128e0a8_626116f8584944"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 04:29:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f20fb128e0a8_626116f8584944 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit __Problem statement:__ At the moment, the draft states that ack delay is _a variable-length integer representing the time delta in microseconds between when the ACK frame was sent and when the largest acknowledged packet was received by this peer_. ([transport draft; section 19.3](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-19.3-8.4)). I think that the definition is incorrect. Consider the case of a slow endpoint that needs to spend 10ms for processing one packet. When the true RTT of the network is 50ms, the RTT estimate of the peer would become 40ms, as by this definition, the slow endpoint would report an ack_delay of 10ms. IIUC, we have thought that the issue is negligible as we have a mechanism using min_rtt, for detecting and ignoring excessive ack_delay values being reported. But, as stated in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3927#issuecomment-665411499, I am becoming skeptical if that defense works well when the path is being utilized, as the true RTT when the path is congested tends to be greater than when the path is not congested, and because min_rtt would normally reflect the value of the latter. In case of the example above, the defense does not work if the non-congested RTT of that path was 25ms and if min_rtt reflected that value. __Solution:__ The definition of ack delay should be changed to: _the amount of time an endpoint withheld an ack from the moment when it would have sent an immediate ack._ -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3970 ----==_mimepart_5f20fb128e0a8_626116f8584944 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Problem statement:

At the moment, the draft states that ack delay is a variable-lengt= h integer representing the time delta in microseconds between when the AC= K frame was sent and when the largest acknowledged packet was received by= this peer. (transport draft; sec= tion 19.3).

I think that the definition is incorrect. Consider the case of a slow = endpoint that needs to spend 10ms for processing one packet. When the tru= e RTT of the network is 50ms, the RTT estimate of the peer would become 4= 0ms, as by this definition, the slow endpoint would report an ack_delay o= f 10ms.

IIUC, we have thought that the issue is negligible as we have a mechan= ism using min_rtt, for detecting and ignoring excessive ack_delay values = being reported. But, as stated in #3927 (comment), I am becoming ske= ptical if that defense works well when the path is being utilized, as the= true RTT when the path is congested tends to be greater than when the pa= th is not congested, and because min_rtt would normally reflect the value= of the latter. In case of the example above, the defense does not work i= f the non-congested RTT of that path was 25ms and if min_rtt reflected th= at value.

Solution:

The definition of ack delay should be changed to: the amount of ti= me an endpoint withheld an ack from the moment when it would have sent an= immediate ack.

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I agree with @kazuho. The spec is clear. I have dropped the second commit.

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@larseggert pushed 5 commits.

  • 92b25a1 Fix spelling and style consistency nits
  • 203377e Emphasize still talking about sending (#3934)
  • d9368bd which -> that where appropriate & related nit fixes
  • 7c4acb7 Incorporate @afrind's suggestion
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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @igorlord > To summarize, it seems that people are generally not philosophically opposed to fixing this issue, but the solution needs to be simple and be compatible with the current behavior. FWIW, I am fine with adding a field to the SPA TP indicating if active migration is disabled on that address. At the same time, I am wary about recommending endpoints to use the current local address when migrating to a server-preferred address. That is because it changes how QUIC endpoints can be implemented. At the moment, developers can implement a QUIC client that follows all recommendations (i.e. SHOULD), by letting the operating system choose the local address. You can simply create a local socket that is bound to 0.0.0.0, and let the operating system choose the source address of the packets that will be sent. That approach would no longer be considered as recommended, if we are to have a SHOULD (or MUST) that suggests client to use the same address when migrating to SPA. Clients would be recommended to track and intentionally select the source IP address of outgoing packets. 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To summarize, it seems that people are generally not philosophically opposed to fixing this issue, but the solution needs to be simple and be compatible with the current behavior.

FWIW, I am fine with adding a field to the SPA TP indicating if active migration is disabled on that address.

At the same time, I am wary about recommending endpoints to use the current local address when migrating to a server-preferred address. That is because it changes how QUIC endpoints can be implemented.

At the moment, developers can implement a QUIC client that follows all recommendations (i.e. SHOULD), by letting the operating system choose the local address. You can simply create a local socket that is bound to 0.0.0.0, and let the operating system choose the source address of the packets that will be sent.

That approach would no longer be considered as recommended, if we are to have a SHOULD (or MUST) that suggests client to use the same address when migrating to SPA. Clients would be recommended to track and intentionally select the source IP address of outgoing packets.

Therefore, while I am not necessarily opposed to suggesting clients to continue using the current local address, my preference goes to not using a RFC 2119 keyword for the purpose.

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Discussed at IETF-108. Feeling in the room seems to have been to close with no action.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +acknowledged. This includes packets that are acknowledged after being declared
+lost, which can happen in the presence of network reordering. Doing so requires
+senders to retain information about packets after they are declared lost. A

Fair, I just find the current structure awkward. Either way, this proposal is basically done.

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Discussed at IETF 108. Proposed resolution are editorial changes.

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This came up in #2596 and the resolution was along the lines of what you're describing, so I think this is a matter of clarifying the text.

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@ianswett Thank you for pointing that out. So glad to know that this is an editorial problem.

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----==_mimepart_5f2170f1a09c6_589216f8131451-- From nobody Wed Jul 29 05:52:22 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1C13A0A93 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 05:52:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uop_0l1Cab43 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 05:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 209D83A0A8D for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 05:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.112.13]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6753D5E0F1C for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 05:52:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1596027139; bh=0etIFC7l7blxjiKWEHoHO/ZftsN4uDBuh8TzS5293xU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=VXljh64zQm204As5EJtxm+xaywgGX2VuKpM5DaPOTz+fHb2njmcvgCrx5ZmRaNA/G ARg0khwkjuUxA0W82PU4+t5Hik0oigycPXDPZy5KaIyShHoot9pqyNB4wdvM7WrM1y AoUIX3ghoqcNA0syJyaU2Y9ub/kGPOJ3R4cEpVCE= Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 05:52:19 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Definition of ack-delay is incorrect (#3970) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f2171034606d_5f2416f8803e3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:52:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f2171034606d_5f2416f8803e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#name-measuring-and-reporting-hos > An endpoint measures the delays **intentionally introduced** between the time the packet with the largest packet number is received and the time an acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes this delay in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame; see Section 19.3. This allows the receiver of the ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for getting a better estimate of the path RTT when acknowledgments are delayed. A packet might be held in the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed. An endpoint MUST NOT include delays that it does not control when populating the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame. So I think the text is there, but maybe a reference to this section from section 19.3 and some editorial cleanup would help. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3970#issuecomment-665645071 ----==_mimepart_5f2171034606d_5f2416f8803e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

From https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#name-measuring-and-reporting-hos

An endpoint measures the delays intentionally introduced between the time the packet with the largest packet number is received and the time an acknowledgment is sent. The endpoint encodes this delay in the Ack Delay field of an ACK frame; see Section 19.3. This allows the receiver of the ACK to adjust for any intentional delays, which is important for getting a better estimate of the path RTT when acknowledgments are delayed. A packet might be held in the OS kernel or elsewhere on the host before being processed. An endpoint MUST NOT include delays that it does not control when populating the Ack Delay field in an ACK frame.

So I think the text is there, but maybe a reference to this section from section 19.3 and some editorial cleanup would help.

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Due to the discussion during the consensus call, we'll run this through the Late-stage process again.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fixes #3970 You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3971 -- Commit Summary -- * Clarify ACK Delay and reference host-delay -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (19) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3971.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3971.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Fixes #3970

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3971

Commit Summary

  • Clarify ACK Delay and reference host-delay

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I'm merging this so Jana can pull any conflicts into #3961

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We have a rather vague requirement. In short, follow the same rules we established for the handshake. Wording this as an aggregate number allows for stochastic reactions and larger CONNECTION_CLOSE frames. This way, if you get a 25-byte packet and respond with a 200-byte packet, you can do that, but you have to respond to 3 in 8 or fewer in that way. Note that this limit only applies if the endpoint throws away decryption keys. Endpoints with keys aren't blind amplifiers. Closes #3845. Commit: edf21647c5b4c34e875a16f1ae432e425e701757 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/edf21647c5b4c34e875a16f1ae432e425e701757 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-29 (Wed, 29 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3864 from quicwg/close-amplification 3x amplification limit for CONNECTION_CLOSE Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/134f481f9663...edf21647c5b4 From nobody Wed Jul 29 06:14:52 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64513A0BC6 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 06:14:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.028 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.028 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QZXRIp0JBHvW for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 06:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-19.smtp.github.com (out-19.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62AE13A0BAA for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 06:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-943b171.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-943b171.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.22.59]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8163E1EB2 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 06:14:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1596028473; bh=+PQB9mAcy0wWIJrBmghblTHGEYZXIvQxeDOBVmABzgk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Ll8anG0QFBroHSgXZ4UtCsBhZzOYazIks/oKB8dPZeeLEmj1LUl4ZXwwopd+nEVX2 ftAyokcWXXrBRNejhmY3VBfkZ+AjiyQuZBRzVEsccBb/tefLSvELIAmUboSa280M0l XczPKlt8jE7LaAQIFVUcLUlxg3G0Ay/1NMbrRWwE= Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 06:14:33 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] 3x amplification limit for CONNECTION_CLOSE (#3864) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f21763998130_5a0116f81012ad"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 13:14:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f21763998130_5a0116f81012ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #3864 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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This is a subtle one, but it follows from the work that others have been doing on greasing versions or providing additions to echconfig for QUIC connection establishment. It basically says that Version is for endpoints, not middleboxes. Commit: 6b19c710bd1ea0df6553a314a2fc473f776b55f0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6b19c710bd1ea0df6553a314a2fc473f776b55f0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-01 (Wed, 01 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- Version is for endpoints Commit: b10404aba157fc11c01b3cbd62b359988bb3d614 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b10404aba157fc11c01b3cbd62b359988bb3d614 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-15 (Wed, 15 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md Log Message: ----------- 4-byte identifier rather than integer Commit: 4479b16ed2d268284f7777d5ceb0935fcbdfd950 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4479b16ed2d268284f7777d5ceb0935fcbdfd950 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-15 (Wed, 15 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md M protection-samples.js Log Message: ----------- Merge branch 'master' into version-not Identify VN using 0x00000000. 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The payload and length of the stream are selected in any manner the implementation chooses. Implementations MAY terminate these streams cleanly, or -MAY abruptly terminate them. When terminating abruptly, the error code -H3_NO_ERROR or a reserved error code ({{http-error-codes}}) SHOULD be used. What is the rationale for removing this sentence? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3942#pullrequestreview-456234166 ----==_mimepart_5f217d9c6daaa_74b316f8132891 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1167,8 +1172,7 @@ receipt.
 
 The payload and length of the stream are selected in any manner the
 implementation chooses.  Implementations MAY terminate these streams cleanly, or
-MAY abruptly terminate them.  When terminating abruptly, the error code
-H3_NO_ERROR or a reserved error code ({{http-error-codes}}) SHOULD be used.

What is the rationale for removing this sentence?

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +
+This design does not use consecutive PTO events to establish persistent
+congestion, since a PTO expiration is controlled by application patterns in
+addition to network activity. For example, a sender that sends small amounts of
+data with silence periods between them restarts the PTO timer every time it
+sends, potentially preventing the PTO timer from expiring for a long period of
+time, even when no acknowledgments are being received. The use of a duration
+enables a sender to establish persistent congestion without depending on the
+occurrence of PTOs.
+
+### Establishing Persistent Congestion
+
+A sender establishes persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement, if
+the following conditions are true:
+
+* a prior RTT sample exists;

This reflects the resolution in #3889. I think the resolution there is adequate. Doing this as an RTT sample at the time the first packet in the range is sent, requires more state, IMO.

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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +
+This design does not use consecutive PTO events to establish persistent
+congestion, since a PTO expiration is controlled by application patterns in
+addition to network activity. For example, a sender that sends small amounts of
+data with silence periods between them restarts the PTO timer every time it
+sends, potentially preventing the PTO timer from expiring for a long period of
+time, even when no acknowledgments are being received. The use of a duration
+enables a sender to establish persistent congestion without depending on the
+occurrence of PTOs.
+
+### Establishing Persistent Congestion
+
+A sender establishes persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement, if
+the following conditions are true:
+
+* a prior RTT sample exists;

#3889 says exactly that:

The persistent congestion period SHOULD NOT start until there is at least one RTT sample.

... which means that you need to have had a RTT sample when you sent the first packet, right?

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> -
-Server push is only enabled on a connection when a client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID
-frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}. A server cannot use server push until it
-receives a MAX_PUSH_ID frame. A client sends additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to
-control the number of pushes that a server can promise. A server SHOULD use Push
-IDs sequentially, starting at 0. A client MUST treat receipt of a push stream
-with a Push ID that is greater than the maximum Push ID as a connection error of
-type H3_ID_ERROR.
+Each server push is assigned a unique Push ID by the server which is used to
+refer to the push in various contexts throughout the lifetime of the connection.
+
+The Push ID space begins at zero, and ends at a maximum value set by the
+MAX_PUSH_ID frame; see {{frame-max-push-id}}.  In particular, a server is not
+able to push until after the client sends a MAX_PUSH_ID frame.  A client sends
+additional MAX_PUSH_ID frames to control the number of pushes that a server can
+promise.  A server SHOULD use Push IDs sequentially, beginning from zero.  A

Thank you, a248e98 solves this nicely.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +The RECOMMENDED value for kPersistentCongestionThreshold is 3, which is
+approximately equivalent to two TLPs before an RTO in TCP.
+
+This design uses an explicit duration instead of consecutive PTO events since
+the PTO timer is restarted every time an ack-eliciting packet is sent. An
+application that trickles data restarts the PTO timer repeatedly, preventing the
+PTO timer from expiring for a potentially long period of time. A consequence of
+this design is that persistent congestion can be established without the
+occurrence of any PTOs.
+
+### Declaring Persistent Congestion
+
+A sender declares persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement, if the
+following conditions are true:
+
+* there are at least two ack-eliciting packets that are declared lost;

Gah! #3889 was a bit problematic. Moving this discussion to the issue.

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We resolved #3875 with #3889, but I realized that it has a problem. The text and the pseudo-code don't agree.

The text says:

The persistent congestion period SHOULD NOT start until there is at
least one RTT sample.

Since the persistent congestion period starts with a packet that was sent in the past, this statement means that persistent congestion only includes packets that were sent after an RTT sample was taken.

The pseudo code says:

   InPersistentCongestion(largest_lost):
     // Persistent congestion cannot be declared on the
     // first RTT sample.
     if (is first RTT sample):
       return false

This says that the persistent congestion can only be established on the second (or later) ack that yields an RTT sample. This allows for packets that were sent before the first RTT sample was taken to be included in the persistent congestion period.

I had convinced myself that the pseudo-code was adequate, but I missed the fact that the text was not aligned.

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----==_mimepart_5f21a0ab442a7_5e7916f81056ab-- From nobody Wed Jul 29 09:19:00 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9005D3A0BE7 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:18:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6fuL2KjM1NQF for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FC813A0D60 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-fa7043e.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-fa7043e.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.109.45]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCBA840E9D for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:18:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1596039500; bh=9LXEB6t78iecyF8NTh/D3bD5qQWjhnCsDOvx4r/yyuQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=tTDmaW6WJVtBi1GCS1s/I0HJMCsjrBi7eLcvWh1caMKnTmEFTlzCPxtakW18RTd01 LIFCJ7NzF5QUExiSOSpDigd5FENWJlieocjtl1Pd6lLPsQEnaEDFL4YkjOnk29G/V8 CjzY3i90u78a8PGgSJDkN6MPyMLiItnSfXDLI95o= Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:18:20 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Persistent congestion period: text and pseudo-code don't agree (#3972) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f21a14c49996_fa316f8165432"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 16:18:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f21a14c49996_fa316f8165432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I see two options. Option 1: Implementing what the text says will require a new variable that records the next PN when the first RTT sample is taken. Option 2: Changing the text to match the pseudo-code will look something like this: ``` Persistent congestion period SHOULD NOT be established until there is at least one RTT sample. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3972#issuecomment-665761529 ----==_mimepart_5f21a14c49996_fa316f8165432 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I see two options.

Option 1: Implementing what the text says will require a new variable that records the next PN when the first RTT sample is taken.

Option 2: Changing the text to match the pseudo-code will look something like this:

Persistent congestion period SHOULD NOT be established until there is at least
one RTT sample.

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An example might help:
1: Pkt 10, 11, 12 sent
2: PTO, Pkt 13, 14 sent
3: PTO, Pkt 15, 16 sent
4: Ack 10 received.
5: Ack 16 received.

At 5, the pseudo-code would declare persistent congestion if (t3 - t1) > persistent congestion duration.

The text however wouldn't, since there was no RTT sample during the persistent congestion period, t1 to t3.

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Option 1 and 2 have a behavior difference with the following implication:

With option 2, a sender might mark persistent congestion with fewer PTOs than if the sender had a more accurate RTT estimate. This is arguably not a significant concern, since:

  • the sender will still have sent at least two packets in that duration and marked them lost, since you need two ack-eliciting packets to be lost to declare persistent congestion; and
  • the number of packets sent is also sensitive to how the application sends, and a sender cannot rely on that anyway.

Option 2 has the benefit that it is simpler to implement.

On balance, I think Option 2 is better, though it does make this a design change.

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Closes #3965.

Call out that since transport parameters are not ALPN specific, when the client offers several, that application protocols should not put restrictions on them that might back them into a corner for future versions.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3973

Commit Summary

  • Transport Parameters are not APLN Specific

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The text and the pseudo-code don't agree. Since this has gone through consensus, I'm continuing this discussion on #3972. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3875#issuecomment-665856068 ----==_mimepart_5f21cd3e93876_6ed016f8136927 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

#3889 is now merged, but I realized that it has a slight problem. The text and the pseudo-code don't agree. Since this has gone through consensus, I'm continuing this discussion on #3972.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +
+This design does not use consecutive PTO events to establish persistent
+congestion, since a PTO expiration is controlled by application patterns in
+addition to network activity. For example, a sender that sends small amounts of
+data with silence periods between them restarts the PTO timer every time it
+sends, potentially preventing the PTO timer from expiring for a long period of
+time, even when no acknowledgments are being received. The use of a duration
+enables a sender to establish persistent congestion without depending on the
+occurrence of PTOs.
+
+### Establishing Persistent Congestion
+
+A sender establishes persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement, if
+the following conditions are true:
+
+* a prior RTT sample exists;

You're right -- but this was not resolved correctly. I've changed the language now to match what's in the draft as you proposed, and I've filed #3972.

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Jul 29 12:36:45 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2D93A0E5D for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:36:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YBp-hUT-65RF for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 898B13A0F33 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-5fb2734.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5fb2734.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.19.27]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E07C840E16 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1596051380; bh=7P7dWOU+uu7kohtZGyiMIDUoXbjnuri1ZfoFj4RH5yA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=fPPfMjdTx40XVKpaSIYwVtN/qCcAi/ycakFZpp2oxL3qlGngQF89Olt+pYboAJUhQ /U29hiUDHPwZsWru62V98ZDRLtP+gEZgHyDSUHPrSLlyzxtTbsRQC2bO7aEzluL2cw L/TiKX+qroYJD6TjMPjE12NefP/srirJP27Ni6qs= Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:36:20 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Persistent congestion period: text and pseudo-code don't agree (#3972) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f21cfb48ea26_34a916f81370dc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:36:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f21cfb48ea26_34a916f81370dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the example, I was unclear on the issue up until then, though I think a slightly stronger example might be: 5. Ack 14 received, since that's only a single PTO. I think 1 aligns more with fully fixing the original issue, since it seems like your example is a case we agreed we would not want to declare as persistent congestion in #3875. That being said, it makes the pseudocode more complex. Persistent congestion is a new concept, so I suspect implementations will vary anyway. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3972#issuecomment-665861076 ----==_mimepart_5f21cfb48ea26_34a916f81370dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks for the example, I was unclear on the issue up until then, though I think a slightly stronger example might be:
5. Ack 14 received, since that's only a single PTO.

I think 1 aligns more with fully fixing the original issue, since it seems like your example is a case we agreed we would not want to declare as persistent congestion in #3875. That being said, it makes the pseudocode more complex.

Persistent congestion is a new concept, so I suspect implementations will vary anyway.

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HTTP/3 defines three stream types: control stream, request stream, and push -stream. This section describes HTTP/3 frame formats and the streams types on -which they are permitted; see {{stream-frame-mapping}} for an overview. A +stream. This section describes HTTP/3 frame formats and their permitted stream types; see {{stream-frame-mapping}} for an overview. A Can you rewrap this? The build will break if I merge it with this long line. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3964#pullrequestreview-457894708 ----==_mimepart_5f21e3dc8c8d8_1bad16f8206611 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1176,8 +1176,7 @@ either the H3_NO_ERROR error code or a reserved error code
 
 HTTP frames are carried on QUIC streams, as described in {{stream-mapping}}.
 HTTP/3 defines three stream types: control stream, request stream, and push
-stream. This section describes HTTP/3 frame formats and the streams types on
-which they are permitted; see {{stream-frame-mapping}} for an overview.  A
+stream. This section describes HTTP/3 frame formats and their permitted stream types; see {{stream-frame-mapping}} for an overview.  A

Can you rewrap this? The build will break if I merge it with this long line.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1176,8 +1176,7 @@ either the H3_NO_ERROR error code or a reserved error code
 
 HTTP frames are carried on QUIC streams, as described in {{stream-mapping}}.
 HTTP/3 defines three stream types: control stream, request stream, and push
-stream. This section describes HTTP/3 frame formats and the streams types on
-which they are permitted; see {{stream-frame-mapping}} for an overview.  A
+stream. This section describes HTTP/3 frame formats and their permitted stream types; see {{stream-frame-mapping}} for an overview.  A

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1741,6 +1741,13 @@ parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 Endpoints use transport parameters to authenticate the negotiation of
 connection IDs during the handshake; see {{cid-auth}}.
 
+When sent by the client, transport parameters are not specific to a particular
+ALPN being negotiated.  Therefore, a client cannot have application protocol
+specific values in the transport parameters.  Application protocols should take
+this into account when designing versioning schemes, and not place restrictions
+on the values in the transport parameters that might prevent protocol changes
+in future version of the application protocol.

Regarding the last sentence, how about saying something like: Application protocols SHOULD NOT introduce prohibitive requirements that prevent other application protocols from working.

I am not sure if this problem can be scoped to different versions of one protocol. While that could be the case for HTTP, there could be cases where a client might ask for using different protocols that provide the same service. To give an example, a client might send send an ALPN of ("h3" (for doing DNS over HTTP), "dns" (for doing DNS over QUIC)) to a DNS server.

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@nibanks commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1741,6 +1741,13 @@ parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 Endpoints use transport parameters to authenticate the negotiation of
 connection IDs during the handshake; see {{cid-auth}}.
 
+When sent by the client, transport parameters are not specific to a particular
+ALPN being negotiated.  Therefore, a client cannot have application protocol
+specific values in the transport parameters.  Application protocols should take
+this into account when designing versioning schemes, and not place restrictions
+on the values in the transport parameters that might prevent protocol changes
+in future version of the application protocol.

@kazuho I'm not sure how you'd go about not making prohibitive requirements for other protocols without understanding the set of all other possible protocols or by setting no requirements at all.

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[ci skip] Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/load-balancers/compare/320ccb962bbf...8edc1f2fd573 From nobody Wed Jul 29 16:15:34 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B29E3A09A9 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 16:15:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lkK9TnZlrj96 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 16:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99B053A0945 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 16:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.22.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D208E560ED2 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 16:15:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1596064529; bh=REufZPQbKCoufZjVp6e/enZLEG6eUeMGMIaTTV7dmyk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TKaj1EWYYiBm1qe61sqSAJooCCy3VpJ6rEWi2USM/fY5gfG1U1ueb4P9MrJFoU5Bo YKN7LBbysTTrpob3c5Z4+F7wPKUYc+ATmnxhpNAYwBl2tnu+AjApoa2aLLDypg7V8b tcAvcl9Gd4piNc7pX9MrBuXy8n2hpXU/Wbt2djFM= Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 16:15:29 -0700 From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Transport Parameters are not APLN Specific (#3973) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f220311c2e0b_742516f81071d0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 23:15:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f220311c2e0b_742516f81071d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @kazuho commented on this pull request. > @@ -1741,6 +1741,13 @@ parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. Endpoints use transport parameters to authenticate the negotiation of connection IDs during the handshake; see {{cid-auth}}. +When sent by the client, transport parameters are not specific to a particular +ALPN being negotiated. Therefore, a client cannot have application protocol +specific values in the transport parameters. Application protocols should take +this into account when designing versioning schemes, and not place restrictions +on the values in the transport parameters that might prevent protocol changes +in future version of the application protocol. @nibanks If that's unclear, saying something like the following might be better: "should not introduce restrictions to the transport parameters, as doing so might prevent clients from offering multiple application protocols." I think that addresses the two examples that you laid out in the original comment of #3965. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1741,6 +1741,13 @@ parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 Endpoints use transport parameters to authenticate the negotiation of
 connection IDs during the handshake; see {{cid-auth}}.
 
+When sent by the client, transport parameters are not specific to a particular
+ALPN being negotiated.  Therefore, a client cannot have application protocol
+specific values in the transport parameters.  Application protocols should take
+this into account when designing versioning schemes, and not place restrictions
+on the values in the transport parameters that might prevent protocol changes
+in future version of the application protocol.

@nibanks If that's unclear, saying something like the following might be better: "should not introduce restrictions to the transport parameters, as doing so might prevent clients from offering multiple application protocols."

I think that addresses the two examples that you laid out in the original comment of #3965.

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We should mark it proposal-ready though, right?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +: A variable-length integer representing the intentional delay in microseconds
+  between when the largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest
+  Acknowledged field, was received, and when the ACK frame was sent;
+  see {{host-delay}}.  The value of the ACK Delay field is scaled by

Including the encoding/unit details in the description makes this a very hard sentence to swallow. I can only think of ways to make this longer though...

This value represents the length of the delay between when the largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest Acknowledged field, was received, and when the ACK frame was sent; see {{host-delay}}. ACK Delay is encoded as a variable-length integer with a value that is derived by dividing the delay in microseconds by 2 to the power of the value of the ack_delay_exponent transport parameter set by the sender of the ACK frame; see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}. To decode the value, the encoded variable-length integer value is multiplied by 2 to the power of the ack_delay_exponent transport parameter to obtain a value in microseconds. Scaling in this fashion allows ...

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----==_mimepart_5f222b4a310e9_7de016f8290185-- From nobody Wed Jul 29 19:13:26 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E832A3A0B9A for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:13:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id niklAYjOwPCD for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-22.smtp.github.com (out-22.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E6133A0B98 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.112.13]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673F8560BFB for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:13:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1596075202; bh=bmjC4kbYZEd1pxni7xMVV5/flSN/Ix56EGs2O8U0+cE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=z4JEtpsI5nQFEE01BklqiyLzlcTnKu2s4yqLe7SGOy45tJEpB8CLp/oxbBCHKb8I9 eOJ6BNsfO/oVh3yqh2I2ZjRWZII73tNVTjbIVMkxLzFlZYwdpdqRL/Y+aZ1pjs6Rzq hWgcSCsVx9Z4HBgHvrnbgDArUp4nNBRzq4tD+HqI= Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:13:22 -0700 From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Persistent congestion period: text and pseudo-code don't agree (#3972) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f222cc256dcf_688516f8440284"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 02:13:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f222cc256dcf_688516f8440284 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree that making the change to the pseudo-code seems to be the more correct solution. That being said, I'm not planning to implement persistent congestion detection during the early phases of the handshake (but only after confirmation of the handshake), since I don't see clear benefits of the added complexity of cross-packet-number-space persistent congestion detection. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3972#issuecomment-666040269 ----==_mimepart_5f222cc256dcf_688516f8440284 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree that making the change to the pseudo-code seems to be the more correct solution.

That being said, I'm not planning to implement persistent congestion detection during the early phases of the handshake (but only after confirmation of the handshake), since I don't see clear benefits of the added complexity of cross-packet-number-space persistent congestion detection.

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----==_mimepart_5f222cc256dcf_688516f8440284-- From nobody Wed Jul 29 19:20:29 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C021F3A0BA3 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:20:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7Dv5IjD-hOsv for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-20.smtp.github.com (out-20.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CFFB3A0BA1 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-1dbcc59.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-1dbcc59.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.105.54]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C3DE1E7E for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:20:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1596075624; bh=x3kpLcKfXDdGyqXrzzGpoSd0+i4KBpm+OT6cOhpMMpc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=k3bthHTBrNRjtEgIfGN0eHnoofbipxCTZlFAm6iTWwwVYVyOJnJl6EIvEOFxxFRyJ nTWIrYO6T/To72E3vu1DToI8yfuYVXt1rttNP65T5S+/U60Fi9ljcC8rHmRaY5EBhA hGpCMZRb5Q/8QIe1cXCxlsvKwjyuu0fhCNEdC898= Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:20:24 -0700 From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Transport Parameters are not APLN Specific (#3973) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f222e6835015_196516f83228ec"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 02:20:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f222e6835015_196516f83228ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @martinthomson commented on this pull request. Thanks for putting this together. I wasn't sure that I understood what you wanted before. > @@ -1741,6 +1741,13 @@ parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. Endpoints use transport parameters to authenticate the negotiation of connection IDs during the handshake; see {{cid-auth}}. +When sent by the client, transport parameters are not specific to a particular +ALPN being negotiated. Therefore, a client cannot have application protocol +specific values in the transport parameters. Application protocols should take +this into account when designing versioning schemes, and not place restrictions +on the values in the transport parameters that might prevent protocol changes +in future version of the application protocol. There is a difference between requirements and recommendations. We do recommend in HTTP/3 that a certain number of unidirectional stream be available, but it is [just a recommendation](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-http.html#section-6.2-4). I think that this could be clearer then: > Protocol negotiation with Application Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN; see {{?ALPN=RFC7301}}) allows clients to offer multiple application protocols during connection establishing. The single set of transport parameters offered by a client apply to all application protocols that the client offers. Application protocols can make recommendations about the values for transport parameters, such as suggesting minimum values for stream or flow control limits. Application protocols that place hard constraints on transport parameters could make it impossible for clients to attempt a connection that includes other application protocols with different constraints. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

Thanks for putting this together. I wasn't sure that I understood what you wanted before.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1741,6 +1741,13 @@ parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 Endpoints use transport parameters to authenticate the negotiation of
 connection IDs during the handshake; see {{cid-auth}}.
 
+When sent by the client, transport parameters are not specific to a particular
+ALPN being negotiated.  Therefore, a client cannot have application protocol
+specific values in the transport parameters.  Application protocols should take
+this into account when designing versioning schemes, and not place restrictions
+on the values in the transport parameters that might prevent protocol changes
+in future version of the application protocol.

There is a difference between requirements and recommendations. We do recommend in HTTP/3 that a certain number of unidirectional stream be available, but it is just a recommendation.

I think that this could be clearer then:

Protocol negotiation with Application Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN; see {{?ALPN=RFC7301}}) allows clients to offer multiple application protocols during connection establishing. The single set of transport parameters offered by a client apply to all application protocols that the client offers. Application protocols can make recommendations about the values for transport parameters, such as suggesting minimum values for stream or flow control limits. Application protocols that place hard constraints on transport parameters could make it impossible for clients to attempt a connection that includes other application protocols with different constraints.

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Endpoints use transport parameters to authenticate the negotiation of connection IDs during the handshake; see {{cid-auth}}. +When sent by the client, transport parameters are not specific to a particular +ALPN being negotiated. Therefore, a client cannot have application protocol +specific values in the transport parameters. Application protocols should take +this into account when designing versioning schemes, and not place restrictions +on the values in the transport parameters that might prevent protocol changes +in future version of the application protocol. I'd like to make some editorial suggestions to martin's proposal, but I like that text. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3973#discussion_r462957734 ----==_mimepart_5f22bbfe6b8e1_71b816f8875f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1741,6 +1741,13 @@ parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR.
 Endpoints use transport parameters to authenticate the negotiation of
 connection IDs during the handshake; see {{cid-auth}}.
 
+When sent by the client, transport parameters are not specific to a particular
+ALPN being negotiated.  Therefore, a client cannot have application protocol
+specific values in the transport parameters.  Application protocols should take
+this into account when designing versioning schemes, and not place restrictions
+on the values in the transport parameters that might prevent protocol changes
+in future version of the application protocol.

I'd like to make some editorial suggestions to martin's proposal, but I like that text.

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----==_mimepart_5f22bbfe6b8e1_71b816f8875f1-- From nobody Thu Jul 30 05:32:13 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74603A10D4 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 05:32:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YN1rGleQkpgi for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 05:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCFD53A10D2 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 05:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-f62aa54.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0386F902515 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 05:32:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1596112329; bh=TjgkC7by6M7wGzjaDAUSIW5jf28JiAypgaSJUhx7bEc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Lb/YHeJNG7OVdKEOCZ9TpBs9Nr9G1ClggRsgF2FLV2Y2YmjC4bjHhTFUHOW4+vOXw H9koy5BJOqF5I8j+f52EideDniMoi0AZKpg79DjyZuGhlXrryzgGQ/a5t/xFhpi2r6 IJty9w1R+I75kEv4UPD1iPAY1/kCEIpxEruJruAI= Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 05:32:08 -0700 From: Alessandro Ghedini Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't apply PTO backoff twice in GetPtoTimeAndSpace() (#3974) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f22bdc8e852f_5c3616f81241e1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ghedo X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 12:32:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f22bdc8e852f_5c3616f81241e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From the recovery draft pseudo-code: ``` GetPtoTimeAndSpace(): duration = (smoothed_rtt + max(4 * rttvar, kGranularity)) * (2 ^ pto_count) ``` then later: ``` duration += max_ack_delay * (2 ^ pto_count) ``` so `pto_count` seems to be applied twice to `duration`, which I think is a mistake. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3974 -- Commit Summary -- * Don't apply PTO backoff twice in GetPtoTimeAndSpace() -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (4) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3974.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3974.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3974 ----==_mimepart_5f22bdc8e852f_5c3616f81241e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

From the recovery draft pseudo-code:

GetPtoTimeAndSpace():
  duration = (smoothed_rtt + max(4 * rttvar, kGranularity))
      * (2 ^ pto_count)

then later:

      duration += max_ack_delay * (2 ^ pto_count)

so pto_count seems to be applied twice to duration, which I think is
a mistake.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3974

Commit Summary

  • Don't apply PTO backoff twice in GetPtoTimeAndSpace()

File Changes

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@MikeBishop : Doesn't that argument then argue for MUST close the connection on error? What am I missing?

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3720,11 +3720,11 @@ containing that information is acknowledged.
   unless the endpoint has sent a RESET_STREAM for that stream.  Once an endpoint
   sends a RESET_STREAM frame, no further STREAM frames are needed.
 
-* ACK frames carry the most recent set of acknowledgements and the Ack Delay
-  from the largest acknowledged packet, as described in
-  {{sending-acknowledgements}}. Delaying the transmission of packets
-  containing ACK frames or resending old ACK frames can cause the peer to
-  generate an inflated RTT sample or unnecessarily disable ECN.
+* ACK frames carry the most recent set of acknowledgements and the
+  acknowledgement delay from the largest acknowledged packet, as described in

yes, in the context of the sentence, acknowledgement delay is more appropriate.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +: A variable-length integer representing the intentional delay in microseconds
+  between when the largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest
+  Acknowledged field, was received, and when the ACK frame was sent;
+  see {{host-delay}}.  The value of the ACK Delay field is scaled by

There's a rewording of this in flight in Lars's PR: #3946. @martinthomson, take a look there to see if that's better. This para needs some work.

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I thought that this was intentional, that is, the value is supposed to be:

(rtt + 4*rttval + max_ack_delay) << pto_count

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +: A variable-length integer representing the intentional delay in microseconds
+  between when the largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest
+  Acknowledged field, was received, and when the ACK frame was sent;
+  see {{host-delay}}.  The value of the ACK Delay field is scaled by

I flipped the ordering of this sentence, but I agree it was already too long. I'm going to work off of @martinthomson suggestion and move the units to a separate sentence.

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@marten-seemann I personally think that's fine, though I'll note that TCP is less aggressive than that, which is why I think we should describe this as something that covers the handshake as well.

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This seems to be reiterating a bunch of other changes. > @@ -5278,14 +5278,15 @@ Largest Acknowledged: ACK Delay: : A variable-length integer representing the time delta in microseconds between - when the ACK frame was sent and when the largest acknowledged packet, as - indicated in the Largest Acknowledged field, was received by this peer. The - value of the ACK Delay field is scaled by multiplying the encoded value by 2 - to the power of the value of the ack_delay_exponent transport parameter set by - the sender of the ACK frame; see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}. Scaling - in this fashion allows for a larger range of values with a shorter encoding at - the cost of lower resolution. Because the receiver doesn't use the ACK Delay - for Initial and Handshake packets, a sender SHOULD send a value of 0. + when largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest Acknowledged ```suggestion when the largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest Acknowledged ``` > @@ -5278,14 +5278,15 @@ Largest Acknowledged: ACK Delay: : A variable-length integer representing the time delta in microseconds between - when the ACK frame was sent and when the largest acknowledged packet, as - indicated in the Largest Acknowledged field, was received by this peer. The - value of the ACK Delay field is scaled by multiplying the encoded value by 2 - to the power of the value of the ack_delay_exponent transport parameter set by - the sender of the ACK frame; see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}. Scaling - in this fashion allows for a larger range of values with a shorter encoding at - the cost of lower resolution. Because the receiver doesn't use the ACK Delay - for Initial and Handshake packets, a sender SHOULD send a value of 0. + when largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest Acknowledged + field, was received and the ACK frame was sent. The ACK Delay field carries + this encoded time delta. It is decoded by multiplying the value in the ACK ```suggestion this encoded time difference. It is decoded by multiplying the value in the ACK ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3946#pullrequestreview-458433692 ----==_mimepart_5f22de6572a96_660316f8854f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Yes, this is intentional. In order for the PTO duration to double on expiry, max_ack_delay needs to be included.

We discussed not exponentiating it in the past, but it's a design change and no one's presented any evidence that change would result in substantially better performance. Also, it could be quite a bit more aggressive in some cases, so the more conservative status quo seems preferable.

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----==_mimepart_5f22df405fa23_7fb216f85021a-- From nobody Thu Jul 30 07:58:46 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0C83A043E for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 07:58:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sV4Xgbd_7ieh for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 07:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-25.smtp.github.com (out-25.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.208]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87BA83A044E for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 07:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-c73936b.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.112.13]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DAC840E01 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 07:58:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1596121115; bh=iB1GXw/HZoJcDuryTFKwG5T60uLyZIoed7D5AW6XlXY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xsUdgvkmqPBIbdSVQyKDyzG/3GkdFfM0/nkMiQnwUkiEkbNptGljDjbJ544gt4WX7 uaVVA1Tg6vwF92xDqW02L6ESbJsRUQpc1aXXU47aG7suiFGAca5u+vWGdt4afx3SqS c7n54zJw9fi/YxIuJ9DWTpM63rSPlT/BshsiIsso= Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 07:58:35 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Fix spelling and style consistency nits (#3946) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f22e01ba9e75_6c7716f811584c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 14:58:45 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f22e01ba9e75_6c7716f811584c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett commented on this pull request. In some cases, you changed Ack Delay to ACK Delay, and in others you changed ACK Delay to ACK delay. I believe I prefer "ACK Delay", but the main goal is consistency? Or maybe I just can't see the diffs properly because of other PRs that were merged since this one started. > @@ -1695,7 +1707,7 @@ No significant changes. - Path validation can be used as initial RTT value (#2644, #2687) - max_ack_delay transport parameter defaults to 0 (#2638, #2646) -- Ack Delay only measures intentional delays induced by the implementation +- ACK delay only measures intentional delays induced by the implementation Up above 'Delay' is capitalized, unless I'm missing something. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3946#pullrequestreview-458482741 ----==_mimepart_5f22e01ba9e75_6c7716f811584c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In some cases, you changed Ack Delay to ACK Delay, and in others you changed ACK Delay to ACK delay. I believe I prefer "ACK Delay", but the main goal is consistency? Or maybe I just can't see the diffs properly because of other PRs that were merged since this one started.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1695,7 +1707,7 @@ No significant changes.
 
 - Path validation can be used as initial RTT value (#2644, #2687)
 - max_ack_delay transport parameter defaults to 0 (#2638, #2646)
-- Ack Delay only measures intentional delays induced by the implementation
+- ACK delay only measures intentional delays induced by the implementation

Up above 'Delay' is capitalized, unless I'm missing something.

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jul 30 08:07:51 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDCD3A088A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 08:07:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IjfQInUaqxom for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 08:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-26.smtp.github.com (out-26.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E17E33A07B1 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 08:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-292e294.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-292e294.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.102.70]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D359D5E0C18 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 08:07:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1596121661; bh=1WGOfyjc8kvFxFmyF61wVC1/Mv6FLw2gw4Pe3ZkG0eo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=PbahKwmbNBH6JgboBzOUiMayKYUTh/5FWt+XVGMoEmzsnHPzcxtWwyHQ73krl8rnk YBxdDLacHNo1BgwMZu8SyoOanJ/VAkq4kD5XnLHfQcztT5wWiTyrb5PMdh1tKakEcS HeCgoa0jtJPTo3+3pv4A3+vi2/TMH/NNr4pWpZYw= Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 08:07:41 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify ACK Delay and reference host-delay (#3971) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f22e23dc2095_65eb16f8181885"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 15:07:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f22e23dc2095_65eb16f8181885 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett commented on this pull request. > +: A variable-length integer representing the intentional delay in microseconds + between when the largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest + Acknowledged field, was received, and when the ACK frame was sent; + see {{host-delay}}. The value of the ACK Delay field is scaled by I tried to reword, thought in the end I'm not sure I ended up using @martinthomson text or not. Removing microseconds from the first sentence makes this clearer to me, since the ACK Delay field is definitely not in microseconds, the decoded acknowledgement delay is. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3971#discussion_r463066284 ----==_mimepart_5f22e23dc2095_65eb16f8181885 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +: A variable-length integer representing the intentional delay in microseconds
+  between when the largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest
+  Acknowledged field, was received, and when the ACK frame was sent;
+  see {{host-delay}}.  The value of the ACK Delay field is scaled by

I tried to reword, thought in the end I'm not sure I ended up using @martinthomson text or not.

Removing microseconds from the first sentence makes this clearer to me, since the ACK Delay field is definitely not in microseconds, the decoded acknowledgement delay is.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +: A variable-length integer representing the intentional delay in microseconds
+  between when the largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest
+  Acknowledged field, was received, and when the ACK frame was sent;
+  see {{host-delay}}.  The value of the ACK Delay field is scaled by

@ianswett: You're going to conflict with changes in #3946, which rephrases this as well.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1695,7 +1707,7 @@ No significant changes.
 
 - Path validation can be used as initial RTT value (#2644, #2687)
 - max_ack_delay transport parameter defaults to 0 (#2638, #2646)
-- Ack Delay only measures intentional delays induced by the implementation
+- ACK delay only measures intentional delays induced by the implementation

There should only be "ACK Delay" for the ACK frame field and "acknowledgment delay" for the value/the concept. Let me double check this.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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-- Ack Delay only measures intentional delays induced by the implementation
+- ACK delay only measures intentional delays induced by the implementation

So there are some cases of "ACK delay" left, which I will change to "acknowledgment delay".

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -7475,7 +7479,7 @@ Substantial editorial reorganization; no technical changes.
 - You don't always need the draining period (#871)
 - Stateless reset clarified as version-specific (#930, #986)
 - initial_max_stream_id_x transport parameters are optional (#970, #971)
-- Ack Delay assumes a default value during the handshake (#1007, #1009)
+- ACK delay assumes a default value during the handshake (#1007, #1009)

I didn't make changes to the changelogs, since they will be removed anyway. Should I have?

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The only ones that have "ACK delay" instead of "ACK Delay" are in the changelog

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -7475,7 +7479,7 @@ Substantial editorial reorganization; no technical changes.
 - You don't always need the draining period (#871)
 - Stateless reset clarified as version-specific (#930, #986)
 - initial_max_stream_id_x transport parameters are optional (#970, #971)
-- Ack Delay assumes a default value during the handshake (#1007, #1009)
+- ACK delay assumes a default value during the handshake (#1007, #1009)

This was a change, I'm reverting it

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +: A variable-length integer representing the intentional delay in microseconds
+  between when the largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest
+  Acknowledged field, was received, and when the ACK frame was sent;
+  see {{host-delay}}.  The value of the ACK Delay field is scaled by

Agreed, I can fix the conflicts if this lands second. I'm more concerned with getting this text correct.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +| t=6    | Send packet #7 (app data)  |
+| t=8    | Send packet #8 (PTO 1)     |
+| t=12   | Send packet #9 (PTO 2)     |
+| t=12.2 | Recv acknowledgement of #9 |
+
+Packets 2 through 8 are declared lost when the acknowledgement for packet 9 is
+received at t = 12.2.
+
+The congestion period is calculated as the time between the oldest and newest
+lost packets: 8 - 1 = 7.  The duration for establishing persistent congestion
+is: 2 * 3 = 6.  Because the threshold was reached and because none of the
+packets between the oldest and the newest lost packets were acknowledged, the
+network is considered to have experienced persistent congestion.
+
+While this example shows the occurrence of PTOs, they are not required for
+persistent congestion to be established.

@janaiyengar this is what I mean. I think that this was in one of your PRs.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  
-QUIC error codes are 62-bit unsigned integers.
+## Transport Error Codes {#transport-error-codes}

@janaiyengar and this was from Bence.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +| t=6    | Send packet #7 (app data)  |
+| t=8    | Send packet #8 (PTO 1)     |
+| t=12   | Send packet #9 (PTO 2)     |
+| t=12.2 | Recv acknowledgement of #9 |
+
+Packets 2 through 8 are declared lost when the acknowledgement for packet 9 is
+received at t = 12.2.
+
+The congestion period is calculated as the time between the oldest and newest
+lost packets: 8 - 1 = 7.  The duration for establishing persistent congestion
+is: 2 * 3 = 6.  Because the threshold was reached and because none of the
+packets between the oldest and the newest lost packets were acknowledged, the
+network is considered to have experienced persistent congestion.
+
+While this example shows the occurrence of PTOs, they are not required for
+persistent congestion to be established.

Yeah, that is not a change I made.

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +: A variable-length integer encoding the intentional delay between when the
+  largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest Acknowledged field,
+  was received, and when the ACK frame was sent; see {{host-delay}}.
+  The acknowledgement delay in microseconds is the value of the ACK Delay
+  field multiplied by 2 to the power of the ack_delay_exponent transport
+  parameter sent by the sender of the ACK frame;
+  see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}.  Scaling in this fashion allows for
+  a larger range of values with a shorter encoding at the cost of lower
+  resolution.  Because the receiver doesn't use the ACK Delay for Initial and
+  Handshake packets, a sender SHOULD send a value of 0.

The description of the delay is already in the host delay section. We can fix that section if necessary, but let's not repeat the same text down here.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +: A variable-length integer representing the intentional delay in microseconds
+  between when the largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest
+  Acknowledged field, was received, and when the ACK frame was sent;
+  see {{host-delay}}.  The value of the ACK Delay field is scaled by

Ok, I've done a full rework of the paragraph.

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Let's really fix this para then

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@Lars, I think you need to rebase.

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@martinthomson commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +: A variable-length integer encoding the intentional delay between when the
+  largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest Acknowledged field,
+  was received, and when the ACK frame was sent; see {{host-delay}}.
+  The acknowledgement delay in microseconds is the value of the ACK Delay
+  field multiplied by 2 to the power of the ack_delay_exponent transport
+  parameter sent by the sender of the ACK frame;
+  see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}.  Scaling in this fashion allows for
+  a larger range of values with a shorter encoding at the cost of lower
+  resolution.  Because the receiver doesn't use the ACK Delay for Initial and
+  Handshake packets, a sender SHOULD send a value of 0.

That last bit won't format correctly. You need a ': ' at the start of the line, or maybe we could move it elsewhere.

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +: A variable-length integer encoding the intentional delay between when the
+  largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest Acknowledged field,
+  was received, and when the ACK frame was sent; see {{host-delay}}.
+  The acknowledgement delay in microseconds is the value of the ACK Delay
+  field multiplied by 2 to the power of the ack_delay_exponent transport
+  parameter sent by the sender of the ACK frame;
+  see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}.  Scaling in this fashion allows for
+  a larger range of values with a shorter encoding at the cost of lower
+  resolution.  Because the receiver doesn't use the ACK Delay for Initial and
+  Handshake packets, a sender SHOULD send a value of 0.

I think it can be moved up to the host delay section.

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boundary="--==_mimepart_5f22f4c31840b_772b16f81984e8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: push X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 16:26:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f22f4c31840b_772b16f81984e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @larseggert pushed 48 commits. 065a6bd49dc0ddc7a1fb6b7b8a2142834b0158af Version field <-> Version is not invariant 6b19c710bd1ea0df6553a314a2fc473f776b55f0 Version is for endpoints d1e84109bcf74cc2fb4c0961effc56bd7966b393 change error to PROTOCOL_VIOLATION when receiving an invalid RCID frame 8d15c9b4a61a391541b7344166cb60f431bca1a0 3x amplification limit for CONNECTION_CLOSE 2d92d2c893add972496120d364e881af55c70e11 No RTT samples, no persistent congestion 414498f28aff12124a94fd5ffc5c7c2ece8105bf Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md b10404aba157fc11c01b3cbd62b359988bb3d614 4-byte identifier rather than integer 4479b16ed2d268284f7777d5ceb0935fcbdfd950 Merge branch 'master' into version-not 642cc0f0de4dd9160feea5b6727aeab5fdd4c306 Fixup xref and s/numbers/values 13cfae81cd06270203423bbf93d6ce294dbc676e May use 64+bit CIDs as address validation 5a790e1484d9eef476a63248bd8b2b5a3f91cdee Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md eabdc5c82c92ef0077d368a58c9f02e7f16b1394 Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md a5cfbdcf73f306a3cd2c3dc80159d7883d2121a8 Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md 918e823125d0111b7ab1c62268d2a8df880f1178 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md c2d50c6f103af8f66f2985f4d82861772b37fc99 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md 7590ad3639cfb3cabd918498cad2ee93d90d25fa Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md 6874d0047957ab40acba32937cc915fb2fb47a8a Updates from MT, Jana and Kazuho's suggestions 89e99d1428500ac413cb5197afd67631290ed09b Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md 4139dce450ec3c8f9e9bf658d6245e6a11426c51 Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md 1acc648093ef6782cea2bf3942a66471d170b2cd Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md 3ddca85d4b885e053a7312f02af4dfb49bb9d3ea Kazuho's suggestion 7f6999a60d3ccd687f3592a00370b2a29af8f7bc Require coalesced packets to have the same connection ID e4601fe7238b8cc101915888ad0585a673efef16 Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md 92b25a11d37ad2b86082763b5e07a08ec2af6c93 Fix spelling and style consistency nits 203377ea35d22d5fdc226ce424fabe019e8ba1e9 Emphasize still talking about sending (#3934) d9368bd94f4e7c638617239793ff2b7db05849c6 which -> that where appropriate & related nit fixes 7c4acb7c19474b355b170c9dc70512938f81065d Incorporate @afrind's suggestion c0c3f4ad4cff5d816d200518edab82fa888f04bd Merge pull request #3889 from quicwg/ianswett-no-rtt 134f481f96637252e932f10d3c272e002257eb42 Merge pull request #3861 from marten-seemann/fix-invalid-retire-connection-id-error-code edf21647c5b4c34e875a16f1ae432e425e701757 Merge pull request #3864 from quicwg/close-amplification f329f7dd96213db18aad78f3325eac44b5d80f5e Merge pull request #3785 from quicwg/version-not 4cf260c202baa9ea4ab033bd14e87bd7f1abfd57 Merge pull request #3930 from quicwg/same-connection-id ca51fd116c60868e392720170768807380119032 Merge pull request #3924 from quicwg/ianswett-dcid-address-validation e907711312e7c36c85346910d0dbec4f6ee8d211 Wrap c9d42addbc7f1090ac4bc9b02274dbd68a8eb0b5 Merge pull request #3964 from larseggert/which-that c674decf9a93a16590c3e082b31081df186c2af4 Fix spelling and style consistency nits 1459a733cfdeedf746d4656aa29db976df391e70 Address some of @martinthomson's review comments 8e6c89112cbbff4d1300548a90dfe0d1d9cca758 ACK delay -> acknowledgement delay (ACK Delay always refers to the field) 386adc0f6a2a7e71504e7f67daa781c65fdd75c8 Fix spelling and style consistency nits 2661d0da74ce589c19bd974597474e15f037e2ce Address some of @martinthomson's review comments 480964c94eed11d838ac6a1ff94d981830d00813 ACK delay -> acknowledgement delay (ACK Delay always refers to the field) 2de86bac9de2f32bd85f08279ccdf9e18743d075 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md 99c51f87b58c85ecdee09d75f6c8a277d6bdaf04 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md 23e317fad34adf9695a396b190c7529df8b5fcd4 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md 0eeb392f68010a2adf134342fe94c04dacdf9a46 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md 69c4c91626adfc5ea8064a6f07c0481d5255bbb5 Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md dafba8b0c3da5b3a26a43c921e89d5a25624086b ACK delay -> acknowledgment delay 45a8abb9d649e1f85a6905f4898045ecb9831324 Merge branch 'recovery-nits' of github.com:larseggert/base-drafts into recovery-nits -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@larseggert pushed 48 commits.

  • 065a6bd Version field <-> Version is not invariant
  • 6b19c71 Version is for endpoints
  • d1e8410 change error to PROTOCOL_VIOLATION when receiving an invalid RCID frame
  • 8d15c9b 3x amplification limit for CONNECTION_CLOSE
  • 2d92d2c No RTT samples, no persistent congestion
  • 414498f Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
  • b10404a 4-byte identifier rather than integer
  • 4479b16 Merge branch 'master' into version-not
  • 642cc0f Fixup xref and s/numbers/values
  • 13cfae8 May use 64+bit CIDs as address validation
  • 5a790e1 Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
  • eabdc5c Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
  • a5cfbdc Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
  • 918e823 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • c2d50c6 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • 7590ad3 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • 6874d00 Updates from MT, Jana and Kazuho's suggestions
  • 89e99d1 Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
  • 4139dce Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
  • 1acc648 Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
  • 3ddca85 Kazuho's suggestion
  • 7f6999a Require coalesced packets to have the same connection ID
  • e4601fe Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
  • 92b25a1 Fix spelling and style consistency nits
  • 203377e Emphasize still talking about sending (#3934)
  • d9368bd which -> that where appropriate & related nit fixes
  • 7c4acb7 Incorporate @afrind's suggestion
  • c0c3f4a Merge pull request #3889 from quicwg/ianswett-no-rtt
  • 134f481 Merge pull request #3861 from marten-seemann/fix-invalid-retire-connection-id-error-code
  • edf2164 Merge pull request #3864 from quicwg/close-amplification
  • f329f7d Merge pull request #3785 from quicwg/version-not
  • 4cf260c Merge pull request #3930 from quicwg/same-connection-id
  • ca51fd1 Merge pull request #3924 from quicwg/ianswett-dcid-address-validation
  • e907711 Wrap
  • c9d42ad Merge pull request #3964 from larseggert/which-that
  • c674dec Fix spelling and style consistency nits
  • 1459a73 Address some of @martinthomson's review comments
  • 8e6c891 ACK delay -> acknowledgement delay (ACK Delay always refers to the field)
  • 386adc0 Fix spelling and style consistency nits
  • 2661d0d Address some of @martinthomson's review comments
  • 480964c ACK delay -> acknowledgement delay (ACK Delay always refers to the field)
  • 2de86ba Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • 99c51f8 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • 23e317f Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • 0eeb392 Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • 69c4c91 Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
  • dafba8b ACK delay -> acknowledgment delay
  • 45a8abb Merge branch 'recovery-nits' of github.com:larseggert/base-drafts into recovery-nits

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Yeah, I tried to rebase, but I guess that just failed spectacularly :-(

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OK, there is now way I will untangle this tonight. I guess the easiest is just to start the PR over.

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Closed #3946.

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----==_mimepart_5f22f95ce676d_7b6416f81361e-- From nobody Thu Jul 30 09:47:22 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8121B3A0DCD for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:47:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.102 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.102 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qSDHIyGTmjsG for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-18.smtp.github.com (out-18.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45A843A0CEF for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-a6a2749.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-a6a2749.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.62]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E68340F1E for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:47:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1596127636; bh=P43/bFqnRJOHz+DFqqQfiq9zTQL25AtBxmkYMUUxktw=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=NlT0w1HAYyzHdTpQFxMeTD80Lpj0/DF/tRrcLRU1GyzY3ujmfiZDB/9o1oo17i5fm gfdHO4718CAcuxFekOJE13lI85zetcK7w7FQ5CphPj20c+NdumaC/PgF0DRVfEIeXv R3jgpYFIYUKYJSuI5SujUgcnjSrIA7C3Qwa34fxM= Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:47:16 -0700 From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] f4a0c5: Script updating gh-pages from 0262fe31. 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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Jul 30 11:17:50 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F226D3A1245 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:17:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rWxnvDNU8CLC for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FB643A1137 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-5825cd4.ac4-iad.github.net [10.52.22.68]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2215214E3 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:17:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1596133051; bh=PIvO2//iFr8aqlxzRgBScHVOvDnlmA/c0P0OQc9QHQw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=aX92YgWdKuj+GjeQ1Qjaa/iBsBHGGM+hFC4KfhXw0nuhid0woa4g08pJnsk6FL/l+ mIivsHgJsnL3f1vOV5mkZsR+CSAOUon+0mc3GqKHSpBVFyE6UxMteEazfByYiBAAhH mKAfSZnr2J4GJ3W07FdvLjjmKgTBXEqAjaHOZGXA= Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:17:31 -0700 From: Alessandro Ghedini Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Don't apply PTO backoff twice in GetPtoTimeAndSpace() (#3974) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f230ebb3ae16_4b8716f8160564"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ghedo X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 18:17:49 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f230ebb3ae16_4b8716f8160564 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I see, thanks for the explanation. 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I see, thanks for the explanation. We might want to add a comment to clarify this, but will close this PR for now.

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +: A variable-length integer encoding the intentional delay between when the
+  largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest Acknowledged field,
+  was received, and when the ACK frame was sent; see {{host-delay}}.
+  The acknowledgement delay in microseconds is the value of the ACK Delay
+  field multiplied by 2 to the power of the ack_delay_exponent transport
+  parameter sent by the sender of the ACK frame;
+  see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}.  Scaling in this fashion allows for
+  a larger range of values with a shorter encoding at the cost of lower
+  resolution.  Because the receiver doesn't use the ACK Delay for Initial and
+  Handshake packets, a sender SHOULD send a value of 0.

Agreed, I'll move the last bit down to the host delay section.

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This is a subtle one, but it follows from the work that others have been doing on greasing versions or providing additions to echconfig for QUIC connection establishment. It basically says that Version is for endpoints, not middleboxes. 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We have a rather vague requirement. In short, follow the same rules we established for the handshake. Wording this as an aggregate number allows for stochastic reactions and larger CONNECTION_CLOSE frames. This way, if you get a 25-byte packet and respond with a 200-byte packet, you can do that, but you have to respond to 3 in 8 or fewer in that way. Note that this limit only applies if the endpoint throws away decryption keys. Endpoints with keys aren't blind amplifiers. Closes #3845. 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Scaling in this fashion allows for + a larger range of values with a shorter encoding at the cost of lower + resolution. Because the receiver doesn't use the ACK Delay for Initial and + Handshake packets, a sender SHOULD send a value of 0. Thanks, I kept most of the existing sentence about size vs resolution, but otherwise took your suggestion @janaiyengar -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3971#discussion_r463209354 ----==_mimepart_5f2319cfe0648_4dd216f853331 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +: A variable-length integer encoding the intentional delay between when the
+  largest acknowledged packet, as indicated in the Largest Acknowledged field,
+  was received, and when the ACK frame was sent; see {{host-delay}}.
+  The acknowledgement delay in microseconds is the value of the ACK Delay
+  field multiplied by 2 to the power of the ack_delay_exponent transport
+  parameter sent by the sender of the ACK frame;
+  see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}.  Scaling in this fashion allows for
+  a larger range of values with a shorter encoding at the cost of lower
+  resolution.  Because the receiver doesn't use the ACK Delay for Initial and
+  Handshake packets, a sender SHOULD send a value of 0.

Thanks, I kept most of the existing sentence about size vs resolution, but otherwise took your suggestion @janaiyengar

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

The small fragmented packet issue is an interesting one, is there an existing RFC which discusses this we could cite with advice on how to avoid overly small packets?

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Getting close, a few more suggestions > ~~~ (smoothed_rtt + max(4*rttvar, kGranularity) + max_ack_delay) * kPersistentCongestionThreshold ~~~ -Unlike the PTO computation in {{pto}}, persistent congestion includes the -max_ack_delay irrespective of the packet number spaces in which losses are -established. +Unlike the PTO computation in {{pto}}, this duration includes the max_ack_delay +irrespective of the packet number spaces in which losses are established. + +This duration allows a sender to send enough packets, including some in response ```suggestion This duration allows a sender to send as many packets, including some in response ``` > -Unlike the PTO computation in {{pto}}, persistent congestion includes the -max_ack_delay irrespective of the packet number spaces in which losses are -established. +Unlike the PTO computation in {{pto}}, this duration includes the max_ack_delay +irrespective of the packet number spaces in which losses are established. + +This duration allows a sender to send enough packets, including some in response +to PTO expiration, as TCP does with Tail Loss Probe ({{RACK}}), before +establishing persistent congestion, as TCP does with a Retransmission Timeout +({{?RFC5681}}). + +The RECOMMENDED value for kPersistentCongestionThreshold is 3, which is +approximately equivalent to two TLPs before an RTO in TCP. + +This design does not use consecutive PTO events to establish persistent +congestion, since a PTO expiration is controlled by application patterns in ```suggestion congestion, since a PTO expiration is influenced by application patterns in ``` > -Unlike the PTO computation in {{pto}}, persistent congestion includes the -max_ack_delay irrespective of the packet number spaces in which losses are -established. +Unlike the PTO computation in {{pto}}, this duration includes the max_ack_delay +irrespective of the packet number spaces in which losses are established. + +This duration allows a sender to send enough packets, including some in response +to PTO expiration, as TCP does with Tail Loss Probe ({{RACK}}), before +establishing persistent congestion, as TCP does with a Retransmission Timeout +({{?RFC5681}}). + +The RECOMMENDED value for kPersistentCongestionThreshold is 3, which is +approximately equivalent to two TLPs before an RTO in TCP. + +This design does not use consecutive PTO events to establish persistent +congestion, since a PTO expiration is controlled by application patterns in Or maybe something else. Controlled seems odd to me. > +data with silence periods between them restarts the PTO timer every time it +sends, potentially preventing the PTO timer from expiring for a long period of +time, even when no acknowledgments are being received. The use of a duration +enables a sender to establish persistent congestion without depending on the +occurrence of PTOs. + +### Establishing Persistent Congestion + +A sender establishes persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement, if +the following conditions are true: + +* there are at least two ack-eliciting packets that are declared lost; + +* a prior RTT sample existed at the time these packets were sent; + +* the duration between the send times of these packets exceeds the ```suggestion * the duration between the send times of the first and last lost packets exceeds the ``` > +reduced to the minimum congestion window (kMinimumWindow). This response of +collapsing the congestion window on persistent congestion is functionally +similar to a sender's response on a Retransmission Timeout (RTO) in TCP +({{RFC5681}}) after Tail Loss Probes ({{RACK}}). This sentence repeats lines 844 to 847, so I'd be inclined to remove it. ```suggestion reduced to the minimum congestion window (kMinimumWindow). ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3961#pullrequestreview-458719452 ----==_mimepart_5f232b2c85f94_53c316f8221328 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Getting close, a few more suggestions

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Nit: larger and lower imply a comparison. Otherwise, LGTM.

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Thanks, @mt! The diff still looks quite terrible. Where did you push to?

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Editorial suggestions > +Protocol negotiation with Application Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN; see +{{?ALPN=RFC7301}}) allows clients to offer multiple application protocols with +connection attempts. The single set of transport parameters offered by a client +apply to all application protocols that the client offers. Application protocols +can make recommendations about the values for transport parameters, such as +suggesting minimum values for stream or flow control limits. Application +protocols that place hard constraints on transport parameters could make it +impossible for clients to attempt a connection that includes other application +protocols with different constraints. ```suggestion Application Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN; see {{?ALPN=RFC7301}}) allows clients to offer multiple application protocols during connection establishment. The transport parameters that a client includes during the handshake apply to all application protocols that the client offers. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

What about RFC 3465?

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

This mechanism described in RFC3465 as in the original PR description but the RFC itself has no pseudocode. I don't know other references discussing about those small fragments due to byte counting in congestion avoidance -- probably it's because most of TCP RFC use window-based cwnd, not byte based?

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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

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@martinthomson should take a look.

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I fixed the branch, merged to master, and pushed directly. It's naughty, but I've found that sometimes you have to do this or you spend forever debugging git.

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It is not certain that requirements on transport parameter values will cause problems. > @@ -1741,6 +1741,15 @@ parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. Endpoints use transport parameters to authenticate the negotiation of connection IDs during the handshake; see {{cid-auth}}. +Application Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN; see {{?ALPN=RFC7301}}) allows +clients to offer multiple application protocols during connection +establishment. The transport parameters that a client includes during the +handshake apply to all application protocols that the client offers. Application +protocols can recommend values for transport parameters, such as the initial +flow control limits. However, application protocols that require values for +transport parameters will make it impossible for a client to offer multiple ```suggestion transport parameters could make it impossible for a client to offer multiple ``` > @@ -1741,6 +1741,15 @@ parameters as a connection error of type TRANSPORT_PARAMETER_ERROR. Endpoints use transport parameters to authenticate the negotiation of connection IDs during the handshake; see {{cid-auth}}. +Application Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN; see {{?ALPN=RFC7301}}) allows +clients to offer multiple application protocols during connection +establishment. The transport parameters that a client includes during the +handshake apply to all application protocols that the client offers. Application +protocols can recommend values for transport parameters, such as the initial +flow control limits. However, application protocols that require values for +transport parameters will make it impossible for a client to offer multiple +application protocols with conflicting requirements. ```suggestion application protocols if these requirements conflict. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3973#pullrequestreview-458928098 ----==_mimepart_5f23af80730e4_1aa716f83761c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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LGTM modulo the point below.

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 connection IDs during the handshake; see {{cid-auth}}.=0D
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llows=0D
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+handshake apply to all application protocols that the client offers. App=
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neqo is implmenting this logic too mozilla/neqo#875

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

Yes, this is a change in how the sender works, but it's not a significant difference. And it is in the pseudo code in the appendix, not in the text.

Let's be clear that we are defining something that we are calling Reno for QUIC, knowing fully well that it's just one of many controllers that people will attempt. The current pseudo code is not a reference, it is one way of doing Reno. What this PR proposes is what a number of implementations already do.

I don't think there's much more to see here. I'm fine with not including the PR, or with including the PR. Most implementations are likely to implement it the way the PR does, but the current pseudo code is also good in that it is algorithmically clear.

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Closes #3855 in a way that perhaps was not anticipated. Commit: 0c08ec7232ef506e1a153cfd33edb1a25936664d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0c08ec7232ef506e1a153cfd33edb1a25936664d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-31 (Fri, 31 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- reorder Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar Commit: 758eb2a61eef2544dd75ee6c88970981639cfc0c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/758eb2a61eef2544dd75ee6c88970981639cfc0c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-31 (Fri, 31 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Use some of that editorializing Commit: c92c8928798b82f0fafb9d83cf03d65d2b043698 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c92c8928798b82f0fafb9d83cf03d65d2b043698 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2020-07-31 (Fri, 31 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- -also Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar Commit: 48b710d05a34ebc4d7440e506c10b19f14f65011 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48b710d05a34ebc4d7440e506c10b19f14f65011 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-31 (Fri, 31 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3868 from quicwg/1rtt-before-complete Prohibit reading 1-RTT before handshake complete Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/c8e6cf3d3774...48b710d05a34 From nobody Fri Jul 31 12:36:58 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFE63A0839 for ; 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Commit: 06b33714a4a10032d318b9ca531a089cfd45b0be https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/06b33714a4a10032d318b9ca531a089cfd45b0be Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2020-07-31 (Fri, 31 Jul 2020) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #3968 from kazu-yamamoto/congestion-event CongestionEvent -> OnCongestionEvent Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/48b710d05a34...06b33714a4a1 From nobody Fri Jul 31 12:39:38 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8693A08AA for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2020 12:39:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.092, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SSCAmtaM6ru8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2020 12:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-27.smtp.github.com (out-27.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D2393A0895 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2020 12:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-ca5950c.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.17.57]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688EA900D9C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2020 12:39:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1596224373; bh=dvy1HAK8lShyosJq4MmLDr48VldnQM5Fj7AawxgIM7Q=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=h9Rsc7YEzbaKHffGIk8bFh6nJEfDI0UQ+gJXvO9Sn8LQN6XgUOh9jauK7CQPbPJrz Sx6oaSxl7aqfLjPLt+fYW3echCYtSaOMyLD5EjzKYlm97NX0dZdgOla8Bf7l6v2Nys rz+MSdbfspJbLICVa26EC21qs435uvEB9cfbjG6E= Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 12:39:33 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] CongestionEvent -> OnCongestionEvent (#3968) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f24737559dcd_48c116f87669"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 19:39:36 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f24737559dcd_48c116f87669 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #3968 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -1129,6 +1129,10 @@ follows:
    smoothed_rtt = kInitialRtt
    rttvar = kInitialRtt / 2
    min_rtt = 0
+   // max_ack_delay is initialized to 0 and
+   // updated when transport parameters are exchanged.
+   // If a peer does not specify max_ack_delay,
+   // it is set to 25ms.

I would move this comment out and to the definition of max_ack_delay further up in this section.

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----==_mimepart_5f247492c147_217616f81152ad-- From nobody Fri Jul 31 13:58:23 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3B43A0BC8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2020 13:58:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SzSxusI64oUd for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2020 13:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-21.smtp.github.com (out-21.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4346F3A0BD5 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2020 13:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-39b4a70.va3-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-39b4a70.va3-iad.github.net [10.48.16.66]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A919520036 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2020 13:58:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1596229099; bh=aSdNMIzlu1/3uIU/8NPNJ+MDhrZ0NVvSrJRsZTGC6aY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=yh26jg3nLv9/JnYouJd6h54pHePMcHgs2+JjjHxPkqvyTVpQkfLsH3k3GENRqsCh0 gS6JgvLi7my3+E49Q/ocuNOaInXNCqrHDLQMSIPgQ96+TKrGrrJ3+VvnxcUS3CXbr2 Jo6wH0sQmBmZZXqM5VM3+8/e6dabZDiE08svE2I4= Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 13:58:19 -0700 From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Byte counting at Congestion avoidance (#3917) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f2485eb6a9e5_291216f8637a3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 20:58:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f2485eb6a9e5_291216f8637a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @ianswett commented on this pull request. > + bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes + if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window): + bytes_acked -= congestion_window + congestion_window += max_datagram_size I think this PR is fine, but I'm also not seeing a big reason for changing the current pseudocode. It turns out Chrome doesn't do it this way anymore, but we used to. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3917#discussion_r463835696 ----==_mimepart_5f2485eb6a9e5_291216f8637a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +      bytes_acked += acked_packet.sent_bytes
+      if (bytes_acked >= congestion_window):
+        bytes_acked -= congestion_window
+        congestion_window += max_datagram_size

I think this PR is fine, but I'm also not seeing a big reason for changing the current pseudocode.

It turns out Chrome doesn't do it this way anymore, but we used to.

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Thanks, Ian, I've incorporated most of your comments. > +data with silence periods between them restarts the PTO timer every time it +sends, potentially preventing the PTO timer from expiring for a long period of +time, even when no acknowledgments are being received. The use of a duration +enables a sender to establish persistent congestion without depending on the +occurrence of PTOs. + +### Establishing Persistent Congestion + +A sender establishes persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement, if +the following conditions are true: + +* there are at least two ack-eliciting packets that are declared lost; + +* a prior RTT sample existed at the time these packets were sent; + +* the duration between the send times of these packets exceeds the This isn't correct. @marten-seemann had an example where: - 1 - 10 are sent - on ack, 1-4 and 6-9 are marked lost - 1-4 have a period that exceeds the PC threshold. The text here allows for this to result in persistent congestion. I've changed the text here to be clearer. > +reduced to the minimum congestion window (kMinimumWindow). This response of +collapsing the congestion window on persistent congestion is functionally +similar to a sender's response on a Retransmission Timeout (RTO) in TCP +({{RFC5681}}) after Tail Loss Probes ({{RACK}}). Trimmed and rephrased. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3961#pullrequestreview-459542454 ----==_mimepart_5f24d1fc9297b_21e116f830747e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

Thanks, Ian, I've incorporated most of your comments.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +data with silence periods between them restarts the PTO timer every time it
+sends, potentially preventing the PTO timer from expiring for a long period of
+time, even when no acknowledgments are being received. The use of a duration
+enables a sender to establish persistent congestion without depending on the
+occurrence of PTOs.
+
+### Establishing Persistent Congestion
+
+A sender establishes persistent congestion on receiving an acknowledgement, if
+the following conditions are true:
+
+* there are at least two ack-eliciting packets that are declared lost;
+
+* a prior RTT sample existed at the time these packets were sent;
+
+* the duration between the send times of these packets exceeds the

This isn't correct. @marten-seemann had an example where:

  • 1 - 10 are sent
  • on ack, 1-4 and 6-9 are marked lost
  • 1-4 have a period that exceeds the PC threshold.

The text here allows for this to result in persistent congestion. I've changed the text here to be clearer.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> +reduced to the minimum congestion window (kMinimumWindow).  This response of
+collapsing the congestion window on persistent congestion is functionally
+similar to a sender's response on a Retransmission Timeout (RTO) in TCP
+({{RFC5681}}) after Tail Loss Probes ({{RACK}}).

Trimmed and rephrased.

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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Jul 31 19:54:55 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EBB3A10A3 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2020 19:54:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.696 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.696 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f0zzyhQ-lvca for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2020 19:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-28.smtp.github.com (out-28.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00D723A10A0 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2020 19:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from github-lowworker-b2150d3.ash1-iad.github.net (github-lowworker-b2150d3.ash1-iad.github.net [10.56.113.12]) by smtp.github.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBEF900D8E for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2020 19:54:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1596250491; bh=vT29IPZwi23jD+kH5l9c8wI8s71Gc1lHmfSjFX7O1S4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=OOJWoCwFCjYwkovun5BB/Yshc7cn8QqTlj3d0dSuG8EqzXKVcp/xVnyIPin+HM+PD tA9ufzMpfy8pdd4gxnuJSbKq1zXwj3hRI87Bx92L1x3ixhDwCG0UQJn1Qc+l8zs0Y/ k2Brb1oZw9+QMhTvkzQAzXXvWajDYiXAkj3thr6U= Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 19:54:51 -0700 From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Resetting min_rtt (#3975) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5f24d97badbbf_28ef16f820512"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2020 02:54:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5f24d97badbbf_28ef16f820512 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closes #3927. I believe this covers the discussion on the issue. I don't have a strong opinion on the use of RFC 2119 language here, and I'm happy to remove all of that language if folks think that's better. I would like not to bikeshed this, but I would also like to be on a beach right now, enjoying a lovely drink, and watching the sunset. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3975 -- Commit Summary -- * reset the min_rtt -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (32) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3975.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3975.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3975 ----==_mimepart_5f24d97badbbf_28ef16f820512 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Closes #3927.

I believe this covers the discussion on the issue. I don't have a strong opinion on the use of RFC 2119 language here, and I'm happy to remove all of that language if folks think that's better.

I would like not to bikeshed this, but I would also like to be on a beach right now, enjoying a lovely drink, and watching the sunset.

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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>  future RTT samples that are smaller than the new RTT to be included in
 smoothed_rtt.
 
+Endpoints SHOULD set the min_rtt to the newest RTT sample after persistent
+congestion is established. This is to allow a connection to reset its estimate
+of min_rtt and smoothed_rtt ({{smoothed-rtt}}) after a disruptive network event,
+and because it is possible that an increase in path delay resulted in persistent
+congestion being incorrectly declared.
+
+Endpoints MAY set the min_rtt to the newest RTT sample at other times in the
+connection, such as when traffic volume is low, to refresh the

... is low, and they receive an acknowledgement with a small ack_delay value

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[... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2020 06:45:58 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/gh-pages Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: dee44a0ba8a2fc2ad051dec2f37fef3c0fa393c2 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dee44a0ba8a2fc2ad051dec2f37fef3c0fa393c2 Author: ID Bot Date: 2020-08-01 (Sat, 01 Aug 2020) Changed paths: M archive.json Log Message: ----------- Script updating archive at 2020-08-01T06:45:38Z. [ci skip]