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> @@ -1991,6 +1991,16 @@ New QUIC versions SHOULD define a new salt value used in calculating initial
 secrets.
 
 
+## Randomness
+
+TLS relies on a cryptographically secure pseudorandom number generator
+(CSPRNG) {{!RFC4086}} to produce random or unpredictable values. In addition
+to the uses in TLS, a source of unpredictable values is used in QUIC for a
+variety of protocol elements, including stateless reset messages, stateless
+reset tokens, and PATH_CHALLENGE frames. An endpoint that employs a weak
+CSPRNG forfeits many of the security properties that QUIC provides.

Yep. Agree with @ekr ; the spec should be less opaque on this matter. @martinthomson mentionned RFC 8937 in the linked issue , which I think would be great to mention in the QUIC-transport draft, as in the QUIC-tls one.

I would be happy to suggest a pull request to briefly explain the concern and connect it to the recent efforts in Post-Snowden crypto research  (rfc 8937 and linked papers). I think we somewhat need the Security Considerations section to connect the implementers with these research security questions currently being undertaken.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4318#discussion_r515635427">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1991,6 +1991,16 @@ New QUIC versions SHOULD define a new salt value used in calculating initial
 secrets.
 
 
+## Randomness
+
+TLS relies on a cryptographically secure pseudorandom number generator
+(CSPRNG) {{!RFC4086}} to produce random or unpredictable values. In addition
+to the uses in TLS, a source of unpredictable values is used in QUIC for a
+variety of protocol elements, including stateless reset messages, stateless
+reset tokens, and PATH_CHALLENGE frames. An endpoint that employs a weak
+CSPRNG forfeits many of the security properties that QUIC provides.
</pre>
<p>Yep. Agree with <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/ekr/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/ekr">@ekr</a> ; the spec should be less opaque on this matter. <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a> mentionned RFC 8937 in the linked issue , which I think would be great to mention in the QUIC-transport draft, as in the QUIC-tls one.</p>
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Technically, endpoint is just another device on path to the application that should not be overwhelmed. Regular congestion control without connection-level flow control would had been sufficient. However, transport can signal much more effectively about endpoint's state, so connection flow control is a special case congestion control optimization.

This description is about the flow control.

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<p>Technically, endpoint is just another device on path to the application that should not be overwhelmed. Regular congestion control without connection-level flow control would had been sufficient. However, transport can signal much more effectively about endpoint's state, so connection flow control is a special case congestion control optimization.</p>
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> @@ -1991,6 +1991,16 @@ New QUIC versions SHOULD define a new salt value used in calculating initial
 secrets.
 
 
+## Randomness
+
+TLS relies on a cryptographically secure pseudorandom number generator
+(CSPRNG) {{!RFC4086}} to produce random or unpredictable values. In addition
+to the uses in TLS, a source of unpredictable values is used in QUIC for a
+variety of protocol elements, including stateless reset messages, stateless
+reset tokens, and PATH_CHALLENGE frames. An endpoint that employs a weak
+CSPRNG forfeits many of the security properties that QUIC provides.

There are cases where the CSPRNG is used and cases where a PRF or PRP is better (but a CSPRNG is acceptable, but maybe less efficient because it means remembering).  I wanted to avoid being concrete because this is an implementation choice often.  A recommendation in this case would be bad because a PRF/PRP is often a better choice.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4318#discussion_r515677214">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1991,6 +1991,16 @@ New QUIC versions SHOULD define a new salt value used in calculating initial
 secrets.
 
 
+## Randomness
+
+TLS relies on a cryptographically secure pseudorandom number generator
+(CSPRNG) {{!RFC4086}} to produce random or unpredictable values. In addition
+to the uses in TLS, a source of unpredictable values is used in QUIC for a
+variety of protocol elements, including stateless reset messages, stateless
+reset tokens, and PATH_CHALLENGE frames. An endpoint that employs a weak
+CSPRNG forfeits many of the security properties that QUIC provides.
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<p>There are cases where the CSPRNG is used and cases where a PRF or PRP is better (but a CSPRNG is acceptable, but maybe less efficient because it means remembering).  I wanted to avoid being concrete because this is an implementation choice often.  A recommendation in this case would be bad because a PRF/PRP is often a better choice.</p>

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So those are both performance optimizations that come at the cost of potentially sending more data toward an unverified address.  We exempt the client from address validation when it migrates, but that doesn't mean we need to recommend that it send a whole bunch.

I'd rather not include these as recommendations.

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<p>So those are both performance optimizations that come at the cost of potentially sending more data toward an unverified address.  We exempt the client from address validation when it migrates, but that doesn't mean we need to recommend that it send a whole bunch.</p>
<p>I'd rather not include these as recommendations.</p>

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@ekr commented on this pull request.



> @@ -1991,6 +1991,16 @@ New QUIC versions SHOULD define a new salt value used in calculating initial
 secrets.
 
 
+## Randomness
+
+TLS relies on a cryptographically secure pseudorandom number generator
+(CSPRNG) {{!RFC4086}} to produce random or unpredictable values. In addition
+to the uses in TLS, a source of unpredictable values is used in QUIC for a
+variety of protocol elements, including stateless reset messages, stateless
+reset tokens, and PATH_CHALLENGE frames. An endpoint that employs a weak
+CSPRNG forfeits many of the security properties that QUIC provides.

I agree with your point that some of these could be either generated with a PRF/PRP or a PRNG, but I think that this text simultaneously says too much and too little, because (for instance) you could have a strong PRNG and a weak PRF and a lot of these mechanisms would be weak. Constrariwise, you could have a weak PRNG used for QUIC but use a PRF for most of these and then you would be OK for those as long as you had a strong key.

So, I think I would say less:
"QUIC depends on the ability to generate secure random numbers, both directly for protocol values such as the connection ID, and transitively via TLS. See {{!RFC4086}} for guidance on secure random number generation."





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<p><b>@ekr</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4318#discussion_r515678358">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1991,6 +1991,16 @@ New QUIC versions SHOULD define a new salt value used in calculating initial
 secrets.
 
 
+## Randomness
+
+TLS relies on a cryptographically secure pseudorandom number generator
+(CSPRNG) {{!RFC4086}} to produce random or unpredictable values. In addition
+to the uses in TLS, a source of unpredictable values is used in QUIC for a
+variety of protocol elements, including stateless reset messages, stateless
+reset tokens, and PATH_CHALLENGE frames. An endpoint that employs a weak
+CSPRNG forfeits many of the security properties that QUIC provides.
</pre>
<p>I agree with your point that some of these could be either generated with a PRF/PRP or a PRNG, but I think that this text simultaneously says too much and too little, because (for instance) you could have a strong PRNG and a weak PRF and a lot of these mechanisms would be weak. Constrariwise, you could have a weak PRNG used for QUIC but use a PRF for most of these and then you would be OK for those as long as you had a strong key.</p>
<p>So, I think I would say less:<br>
"QUIC depends on the ability to generate secure random numbers, both directly for protocol values such as the connection ID, and transitively via TLS. See {{!RFC4086}} for guidance on secure random number generation."</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/initial-accidental-modification
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-02 (Mon, 02 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  The AEAD also prevents modification

The description neglected to mention this.  Obviously, the
confidentiality protection (specifically, the lack thereof) is the part
that needs to be highlighted, but we shouldn't neglect the other purpose
of using an AEAD here.



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> @@ -1991,6 +1991,16 @@ New QUIC versions SHOULD define a new salt value used in calculating initial
 secrets.
 
 
+## Randomness
+
+TLS relies on a cryptographically secure pseudorandom number generator
+(CSPRNG) {{!RFC4086}} to produce random or unpredictable values. In addition
+to the uses in TLS, a source of unpredictable values is used in QUIC for a
+variety of protocol elements, including stateless reset messages, stateless
+reset tokens, and PATH_CHALLENGE frames. An endpoint that employs a weak
+CSPRNG forfeits many of the security properties that QUIC provides.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4318#discussion_r515681891">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1991,6 +1991,16 @@ New QUIC versions SHOULD define a new salt value used in calculating initial
 secrets.
 
 
+## Randomness
+
+TLS relies on a cryptographically secure pseudorandom number generator
+(CSPRNG) {{!RFC4086}} to produce random or unpredictable values. In addition
+to the uses in TLS, a source of unpredictable values is used in QUIC for a
+variety of protocol elements, including stateless reset messages, stateless
+reset tokens, and PATH_CHALLENGE frames. An endpoint that employs a weak
+CSPRNG forfeits many of the security properties that QUIC provides.
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> So those are both performance optimizations that come at the cost of potentially sending more data toward an unverified address. 

How so? The server's address is verified, and that's where the client would be sending this.

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<p>How so? The server's address is verified, and that's where the client would be sending this.</p>

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That is not the case for a preferred address.  It's possible - if unlikely - that the change in source address means a change in destination also.

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  Branch: refs/heads/randomness-is-good
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Less is best



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This is right next to the BCP 14 text.

(Based on private conversation with Joel Halpern who expressed the concern that this seems to lack overt normative force.)
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4321

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<p>This is right next to the BCP 14 text.</p>
<p>(Based on private conversation with Joel Halpern who expressed the concern that this seems to lack overt normative force.)</p>

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4321'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4321</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Establish normative force more directly.</li>
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Even there, I think that it is a fine performance optimization, but not something I would want to recommend.

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<p>Even there, I think that it is a fine performance optimization, but not something I would want to recommend.</p>

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> 1.    "After a long idle period, clients SHOULD send at least one, and ideally at least three, full size datagrams in its first transmission in case a NAT rebinding forces the server to validate the path and MTU."
> 2. "When migrating to a new address on a path that has not already been validated by both endpoints, a client SHOULD send at least one, and ideally at least three, full size datagrams to allow fast MTU validation and use of the entire congestion window."

I too think that these recommendations are unnecessary.

Firstly, IMO it is unbalanced to recommend to sending three full-sized datagrams in these cases, when clients are expected to send only one full-sized datagram when creating a new connection.

Secondly, when the client migrates to an unvalidated path, we already require them to send a full-sized datagram containing PATH_CHALLENGE.

Thirdly, it is not a good idea for clients idle for a long time then elicit NAT rebinding. Rather, endpoints should be exchanging packets periodically, so that the NAT entry persists. Otherwise, the path from the server to the client gets lost. Therefore, I think that there's no reason to specify optimizations regarding how a client should recover from NAT rebinding.

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<li>"After a long idle period, clients SHOULD send at least one, and ideally at least three, full size datagrams in its first transmission in case a NAT rebinding forces the server to validate the path and MTU."</li>
<li>"When migrating to a new address on a path that has not already been validated by both endpoints, a client SHOULD send at least one, and ideally at least three, full size datagrams to allow fast MTU validation and use of the entire congestion window."</li>
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<p>I too think that these recommendations are unnecessary.</p>
<p>Firstly, IMO it is unbalanced to recommend to sending three full-sized datagrams in these cases, when clients are expected to send only one full-sized datagram when creating a new connection.</p>
<p>Secondly, when the client migrates to an unvalidated path, we already require them to send a full-sized datagram containing PATH_CHALLENGE.</p>
<p>Thirdly, it is not a good idea for clients idle for a long time then elicit NAT rebinding. Rather, endpoints should be exchanging packets periodically, so that the NAT entry persists. Otherwise, the path from the server to the client gets lost. Therefore, I think that there's no reason to specify optimizations regarding how a client should recover from NAT rebinding.</p>

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Personally, I side with @martinduke more on the topic of recommending these behaviors as ways to improve migration scenarios. They don't have to be frames as explicit recommendations, but could just be mentioned as ways to improve things.

To your points, @kazuho:

> Firstly, IMO it is unbalanced to recommend to sending three full-sized datagrams in these cases, when clients are expected to send only one full-sized datagram when creating a new connection.

I agree it's unbalanced, but for both larger server certificate scenarios and 0-RTT scenarios it _might_ actually make sense to recommend similar client behavior for the handshake.

> Secondly, when the client migrates to an unvalidated path, we already require them to send a full-sized datagram containing PATH_CHALLENGE.

I'm not sure I understand the point here. Are you saying that because we require 1 full packet, we shouldn't recommend 3?

> Thirdly, it is not a good idea for clients idle for a long time then elicit NAT rebinding. Rather, endpoints should be exchanging packets periodically, so that the NAT entry persists. Otherwise, the path from the server to the client gets lost. Therefore, I think that there's no reason to specify optimizations regarding how a client should recover from NAT rebinding.

As far as I understand, if the server's infrastructure can survive NAT rebindings, there is no such recommendation to avoid them. Why waste the keep alives if you don't need to receive any packet from the server? Therefore, when the client does end up sending after idle (which might result in rebinding) why not account for the possibility of NAT rebinding and send a bit more?

Again, we don't need to recommend these behaviors. They can just be mentioned as possible solutions to bottlenecks that may arise from migration.

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<p>Personally, I side with <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinduke/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinduke">@martinduke</a> more on the topic of recommending these behaviors as ways to improve migration scenarios. They don't have to be frames as explicit recommendations, but could just be mentioned as ways to improve things.</p>
<p>To your points, <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/kazuho/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazuho">@kazuho</a>:</p>
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<p>Firstly, IMO it is unbalanced to recommend to sending three full-sized datagrams in these cases, when clients are expected to send only one full-sized datagram when creating a new connection.</p>
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<p>I agree it's unbalanced, but for both larger server certificate scenarios and 0-RTT scenarios it <em>might</em> actually make sense to recommend similar client behavior for the handshake.</p>
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<p>Secondly, when the client migrates to an unvalidated path, we already require them to send a full-sized datagram containing PATH_CHALLENGE.</p>
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<p>I'm not sure I understand the point here. Are you saying that because we require 1 full packet, we shouldn't recommend 3?</p>
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<p>Thirdly, it is not a good idea for clients idle for a long time then elicit NAT rebinding. Rather, endpoints should be exchanging packets periodically, so that the NAT entry persists. Otherwise, the path from the server to the client gets lost. Therefore, I think that there's no reason to specify optimizations regarding how a client should recover from NAT rebinding.</p>
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<p>As far as I understand, if the server's infrastructure can survive NAT rebindings, there is no such recommendation to avoid them. Why waste the keep alives if you don't need to receive any packet from the server? Therefore, when the client does end up sending after idle (which might result in rebinding) why not account for the possibility of NAT rebinding and send a bit more?</p>
<p>Again, we don't need to recommend these behaviors. They can just be mentioned as possible solutions to bottlenecks that may arise from migration.</p>

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@nibanks Regarding the first two points, I think we should rather not start designing the protocol by discussing how much data clients should send when establishing a connection.

Regarding the last point, I think your point is that the optimization might matter when the server knows that it is not going to send any data until it receives something from the client, because otherwise the server will trying to keep the connection open. To paraphrase, the optimization depends on the application protocol, and how that application protocol is used. Another point to remember is that this optimization is unnecessary when NAT rebinding only changes the port number, and if the server does not revalidate the path when only the port number changes.

IIUC, these points together lead to the conclusion that the optimization covers a niche that might or might not be possible depending on application behavior.

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<p>Regarding the last point, I think your point is that the optimization might matter when the server knows that it is not going to send any data until it receives something from the client, because otherwise the server will trying to keep the connection open. To paraphrase, the optimization depends on the application protocol, and how that application protocol is used. Another point to remember is that this optimization is unnecessary when NAT rebinding only changes the port number, and if the server does not revalidate the path when only the port number changes.</p>
<p>IIUC, these points together lead to the conclusion that the optimization covers a niche that might or might not be possible depending on application behavior.</p>

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> Another point to remember is that this optimization is unnecessary when NAT rebinding only changes the port number, and if the server does not revalidate the path when only the port number changes.

@kazuho as far I understand (please correct me if I'm wrong) amplification protection still applied to migration as a result of port-only NAT rebinding. We're just saying that in this case, the server can't pad it's PATH_CHALLENGES, so PMTU validation doesn't happen along with address validation. The only other exception we make for port-only NAT rebinding is not requiring congestion control reset, though, as @martinduke already mentioned the idleness that goes along with this scenario _should_ trigger that reset anyways.

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I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors.  Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any other last call comments.
 
This document specifies the cryptographic exchanges and formats associated with the QUIC protocol, which in turn is an ambitious protocol that could over time replace TCP. quic-transport, quic-tls, and quic-recovery represent a triple of I-Ds that are always used together and could be combined into a single spec, though the length of the existing specs is already daunting. In many cases, it is impossible to evaluate them independently.
 
As an interested outsider, I see these protocols as exceptionally well designed and the specs exceptionally well written. I could not find even any nits in a very long spec.
 
It is misleading to regard this as a specification of running QUIC over TLS. It is related to TLS in the same way that DTLS is related to TLS: it imports much of the syntax, but there are many differences and its security must be evaluated largely independently. My initial reaction to this spec was to wonder why it did not simply run QUIC over DTLS . I believe the answer is that careful integration improves the performance and is necessary for some of the address agility/transition design.
 
Given its potential importance, this deserves a thorough review by our best security people. Fortunately, from the acknowledgements list, it appears it has gotten that.
 
There are a few aspects of the design that might raise eyebrows. For example:
 
1) TLS exchanges start out in cleartext until a key can be negotiated. QUIC data is always encrypted. The initial packets are encrypted with fixed keys whose derivation is specified in the I-D until fresh keys are negotiated. This isn't a security problem...it will just surprise people.
 
2) Applications using TLS can usually be configured to run over TCP in contexts where cryptographic protection is not needed. (e.g., use HTTP instead of HTTPS). Applications using QUIC cannot. That is likely to mean in practice that it will more frequently be the case that applications using QUIC will need to connect to servers without certificates signed by a CA trusted by the client (because that's the substitute when connecting to a server without a certificate). It's not clear what the spec should say about that, but perhaps the problem should be acknowledged.

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<p>I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors.  Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any other last call comments.</p>
<p>This document specifies the cryptographic exchanges and formats associated with the QUIC protocol, which in turn is an ambitious protocol that could over time replace TCP. quic-transport, quic-tls, and quic-recovery represent a triple of I-Ds that are always used together and could be combined into a single spec, though the length of the existing specs is already daunting. In many cases, it is impossible to evaluate them independently.</p>
<p>As an interested outsider, I see these protocols as exceptionally well designed and the specs exceptionally well written. I could not find even any nits in a very long spec.</p>
<p>It is misleading to regard this as a specification of running QUIC over TLS. It is related to TLS in the same way that DTLS is related to TLS: it imports much of the syntax, but there are many differences and its security must be evaluated largely independently. My initial reaction to this spec was to wonder why it did not simply run QUIC over DTLS . I believe the answer is that careful integration improves the performance and is necessary for some of the address agility/transition design.</p>
<p>Given its potential importance, this deserves a thorough review by our best security people. Fortunately, from the acknowledgements list, it appears it has gotten that.</p>
<p>There are a few aspects of the design that might raise eyebrows. For example:</p>
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<p>TLS exchanges start out in cleartext until a key can be negotiated. QUIC data is always encrypted. The initial packets are encrypted with fixed keys whose derivation is specified in the I-D until fresh keys are negotiated. This isn't a security problem...it will just surprise people.</p>
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<p>Applications using TLS can usually be configured to run over TCP in contexts where cryptographic protection is not needed. (e.g., use HTTP instead of HTTPS). Applications using QUIC cannot. That is likely to mean in practice that it will more frequently be the case that applications using QUIC will need to connect to servers without certificates signed by a CA trusted by the client (because that's the substitute when connecting to a server without a certificate). It's not clear what the spec should say about that, but perhaps the problem should be acknowledged.</p>
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That is a perspective of one of the experts that wrote the spec, rather than a new reader of the spec.

One way of addressing this is to include a reverence.

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Why not add a note of the type that you provide in the first sentence so that other readers do not similarly wonder?

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<p>Why not add a note of the type that you provide in the first sentence so that other readers do not similarly wonder?</p>

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I think perhaps a small tutorial section somewhere, either in the beginning or forward referenced to an appendix would help.

Remember other target audiences are people who are used to conventional definitions of transport protocols some of whom need to operate the network and some of whom only need to know enough to design adjacent layers (for example the routing engineers). 


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<p>Remember other target audiences are people who are used to conventional definitions of transport protocols some of whom need to operate the network and some of whom only need to know enough to design adjacent layers (for example the routing engineers).</p>

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Given that you do not think it is likely to be used, and given that in MPLS we tried this and found it to be very hard, why not remove the text?

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Adding the text in a new section 2 would be a good idea.

Whilst the draft is long, it has to be readable by readers that are not yet experts on the protocol. 

My overall impression during my review was that it was a draft written by people that understood the protocol for people that understood the protocol, but the target audience for a major new IETF transport protocol is much wider than that.

It is also the same with the very abbreviated text on some important design decisions. This is fine whilst the original designers are around, but the work has a lifetime longer than the participation lifetime of the original designers, and a few words now save a lot of discussion and more importantly mistakes and complexity as the design is developed, possibly decades in the future.

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<p>Adding the text in a new section 2 would be a good idea.</p>
<p>Whilst the draft is long, it has to be readable by readers that are not yet experts on the protocol.</p>
<p>My overall impression during my review was that it was a draft written by people that understood the protocol for people that understood the protocol, but the target audience for a major new IETF transport protocol is much wider than that.</p>
<p>It is also the same with the very abbreviated text on some important design decisions. This is fine whilst the original designers are around, but the work has a lifetime longer than the participation lifetime of the original designers, and a few words now save a lot of discussion and more importantly mistakes and complexity as the design is developed, possibly decades in the future.</p>

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> +: A unit of structured protocol information.  There are multiple frame types,
+  each of which carries different information.  Frames are conveyed in QUIC

I agree; that's too detailed for the definitions list.  I think the furthest I'd go is to say there are multiple types of frames, but I'm not sure we need even that.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4313#discussion_r516011947">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +: A unit of structured protocol information.  There are multiple frame types,
+  each of which carries different information.  Frames are conveyed in QUIC
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<p>I agree; that's too detailed for the definitions list.  I think the furthest I'd go is to say there are multiple types of frames, but I'm not sure we need even that.</p>

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(2) is the only comment here that raises a possible text change, and it's editorial-only.  I'm not certain it's properly a security issue with the protocol, but a note in Security Considerations that people might be more inclined to do self-signed certs with a transport that doesn't let them opt out of TLS wouldn't break anything.

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<p>(2) is the only comment here that raises a possible text change, and it's editorial-only.  I'm not certain it's properly a security issue with the protocol, but a note in Security Considerations that people might be more inclined to do self-signed certs with a transport that doesn't let them opt out of TLS wouldn't break anything.</p>

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Can you suggest what you'd expect to see in such a tutorial beyond what exists in Section 1.3?

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+1 to @ekr and @martinthomson. If we start documenting every single decision we're going to end up with a document that's so long it's completely unreadable

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> Reviewer: Derrell Piper
> Review result: Ready
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> I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing
> effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These
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> The summary of the review is: Ready, with an optional nit.
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> This document is QUIC's Loss Detection and Congestion Control and is part of
> QUIC Last Call.
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> Pp. 7, "after the epoch starts is acknowledged" should maybe be singular,
> unless the intent is literal and I'm missing what a "starts" is.
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> There's no explicit security going on here, other than in the larger picture
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> seems well written and based on a practical understanding of existing TCP
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<p>Derrell Piper writes:</p>
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<p>Reviewer: Derrell Piper<br>
Review result: Ready</p>
<p>I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing<br>
effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These<br>
comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area<br>
directors.  Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just<br>
like any other last call comments.</p>
<p>The summary of the review is: Ready, with an optional nit.</p>
<p>This document is QUIC's Loss Detection and Congestion Control and is part of<br>
QUIC Last Call.</p>
<p>Pp. 7, "after the epoch starts is acknowledged" should maybe be singular,<br>
unless the intent is literal and I'm missing what a "starts" is.</p>
<p>There's no explicit security going on here, other than in the larger picture<br>
of QUIC itself, namely that in QUIC-TLS and QUIC-TRANSPORT; this is only its<br>
congestion control.  However, Security Considerations correctly highlights<br>
some of the major traffic analysis concerns with QUIC and congestion control<br>
in general, and there are some, but these are not unique to QUIC, nor would<br>
they likely be addressed inside of congestion control, so this is okay.  It<br>
seems well written and based on a practical understanding of existing TCP<br>
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Reading through section 5.2 of QUIC TLS I wondered why the salt is chosen to be that very value of 0xafbfec289993d24c9e9786f19c6111e04390a899? From a security standpoint, putting random numbers in a document without specifying why they have that value seams a bit concerning to me. 

Also I could find an explanations for changing that number in previous draft versions. It would be helpful to put a reason for the choice of the salt in the section and/or describe the process of choosing as an appendix for instance.

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<p>Reading through section 5.2 of QUIC TLS I wondered why the salt is chosen to be that very value of 0xafbfec289993d24c9e9786f19c6111e04390a899? From a security standpoint, putting random numbers in a document without specifying why they have that value seams a bit concerning to me.</p>
<p>Also I could find an explanations for changing that number in previous draft versions. It would be helpful to put a reason for the choice of the salt in the section and/or describe the process of choosing as an appendix for instance.</p>

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Can you elaborate your security concerns? 
This value is not expected to provide any end-to-end security properties to the protocol, it is only used to:
1. provide an easy way to detect packet corruption (as it feeds into an AEAD)
2. prevent version-unaware middleboxes from parsing a packet

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<p>Can you elaborate your security concerns?<br>
This value is not expected to provide any end-to-end security properties to the protocol, it is only used to:</p>
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<li>provide an easy way to detect packet corruption (as it feeds into an AEAD)</li>
<li>prevent version-unaware middleboxes from parsing a packet</li>
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I will post an update on this on the mailing list in the coming days as well. 

With draft-02, the qlog project is currently in a state that it is difficult to have meaningful progression without added community involvement. This could take many shapes (adoption by the wg, design team, separate IETF BOF/WG, an (informal) interim, simply more people interacting with the personal drafts, ...) and I think it's useful to get an idea of what the broader QUIC community thinks about this at this point.



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...by commenting them back in...

-09 on these drafts have all non-final/non-editorial issues closed: -10 then WGLC?



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Fixes #4265.

I remain uncertain whether this is better as a Section 2 or simply as expanding Section 1.3, but here&#39;s my attempt to write a crash course in the fundamentals of QUIC for someone picking up the document for the first time.

Of course, this PR would also need to renumber all references into Transport from the other drafts (ick), but let&#39;s agree on whether we&#39;re doing that before I dive in.
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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4265.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="731457464" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4265" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4265/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4265">#4265</a>.</p>
<p>I remain uncertain whether this is better as a Section 2 or simply as expanding Section 1.3, but here's my attempt to write a crash course in the fundamentals of QUIC for someone picking up the document for the first time.</p>
<p>Of course, this PR would also need to renumber all references into Transport from the other drafts (ick), but let's agree on whether we're doing that before I dive in.</p>

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I do not have any real concerns, but am am no security expert too. I just stumbled across that number and wondered why it was that oddly specific. Maybe something like 0x314159... (First digits of pi) of 0xf0e1d2c3b4... (asc./desc. Digits) would have made it more clear that there is no meaning to that number at all. 
On reading a number that is that arbitrary, I would have expected it to carry some meaning. To clarify this, it might be a good idea to explicitly state that this number was chosen by random.  

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<p>I do not have any real concerns, but am am no security expert too. I just stumbled across that number and wondered why it was that oddly specific. Maybe something like 0x314159... (First digits of pi) of 0xf0e1d2c3b4... (asc./desc. Digits) would have made it more clear that there is no meaning to that number at all.<br>
On reading a number that is that arbitrary, I would have expected it to carry some meaning. To clarify this, it might be a good idea to explicitly state that this number was chosen by random.</p>

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The intent is obfuscation against middleboxes which don't support the current version of QUIC.  Perhaps the clearest way to communicate that intent is to state that future versions of QUIC SHOULD select a different random salt?

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<p>The intent is obfuscation against middleboxes which don't support the current version of QUIC.  Perhaps the clearest way to communicate that intent is to state that future versions of QUIC SHOULD select a different random salt?</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-28 (Wed, 28 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Stop using initial timeout

Address validation can use 3*PTO, just taking the maximum of the old and
new path PTO.  The idea of initial timeout is easily replaced in
recovery by instead describing the effect on the PTO.  The net effect is
the same, except that new paths often have to include the maximum ACK
delay, which this doesn't incorporate.

Closes #4261.
Closes #4262.


  Commit: ec9355809d26c1a62fcf6c6b565c0e477d69a49d
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-28 (Wed, 28 Oct 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  Remove formula with confusing variables


  Commit: a9d9aeb75f339408c1481c0bb5e1e048f16957f6
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  initial RTO comparison

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 5a506a5202a6b403c78a11b4ddb97fed8aac6b1c
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  Date:   2020-11-03 (Tue, 03 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4263 from quicwg/initial-timeout-begone

Stop using initial timeout


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/ee73d33cd683...5a506a5202a6


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> +QUIC packet:
+
+: A complete processable unit of QUIC that can be encapsulated in a UDP
+  datagram.  One or more QUIC packets can be encapsulated in a single UDP
+  datagram.
+
+Ack-eliciting Packet:
+
+: A QUIC packet that contains frames other than ACK, PADDING, and
+  CONNECTION_CLOSE. These cause a recipient to send an acknowledgment; see
+  {{sending-acknowledgements}}.
+
+Frame:
+
+: A unit of structured protocol information.  There are multiple frame types,
+  each of which carries different information.  Frames are conveyed in QUIC

```suggestion
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> +QUIC packet:
+
+: A complete processable unit of QUIC that can be encapsulated in a UDP
+  datagram.  One or more QUIC packets can be encapsulated in a single UDP
+  datagram.
+
+Ack-eliciting Packet:
+
+: A QUIC packet that contains frames other than ACK, PADDING, and
+  CONNECTION_CLOSE. These cause a recipient to send an acknowledgment; see
+  {{sending-acknowledgements}}.
+
+Frame:
+
+: A unit of structured protocol information.  There are multiple frame types,
+  each of which carries different information.  Frames are conveyed in QUIC

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  Add a definition for "frame"

I struggled with this a little.  Happy to take suggestions.

Closes #4266.


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  Merge pull request #4313 from quicwg/define-frame

Add a definition for "frame"


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> @@ -4382,17 +4382,10 @@ the difference between the largest acknowledged packet and packet number being
 sent.  A peer receiving the packet will then correctly decode the packet number,
 unless the packet is delayed in transit such that it arrives after many
 higher-numbered packets have been received.  An endpoint SHOULD use a large
-enough packet number encoding to allow the packet number to be recovered even
-if the packet arrives after packets that are sent afterwards.
-
-As a result, the size of the packet number encoding is at least one bit more
-than the base-2 logarithm of the number of contiguous unacknowledged packet
-numbers, including the new packet.

I think my point is that it would be more helpful to the readers to have this paragraph here, than just having the super-abstract guidance stated in the paragraph above. I tend to think that the specification should be parsable without reading the pseudo-code.

That said, this is a discussion about where the practical guidance should be stated, and therefore my preference is not a strong at all.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4315#discussion_r517010456">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -4382,17 +4382,10 @@ the difference between the largest acknowledged packet and packet number being
 sent.  A peer receiving the packet will then correctly decode the packet number,
 unless the packet is delayed in transit such that it arrives after many
 higher-numbered packets have been received.  An endpoint SHOULD use a large
-enough packet number encoding to allow the packet number to be recovered even
-if the packet arrives after packets that are sent afterwards.
-
-As a result, the size of the packet number encoding is at least one bit more
-than the base-2 logarithm of the number of contiguous unacknowledged packet
-numbers, including the new packet.
</pre>
<p>I think my point is that it would be more helpful to the readers to have this paragraph here, than just having the super-abstract guidance stated in the paragraph above. I tend to think that the specification should be parsable without reading the pseudo-code.</p>
<p>That said, this is a discussion about where the practical guidance should be stated, and therefore my preference is not a strong at all.</p>

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Based on Jana&#39;s suggestion on #4313.
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<p>Based on Jana's suggestion on <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="732049531" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4313" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4313/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4313">#4313</a>.</p>

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@nibanks Ah thanks. That's true (though I do think that the server does not have to be restricted to 3x when the client unintentionally migrates to a different port, assuming that the server does path validation). Anyways, I think my other point still holds, that the optimization is a niche that relies on the properties of an application protocol, and therefore that there is no strong necessity to explain.

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> +~~~
+EncodePacketNumber(full_pn, largest_acked):
+
+  // The number of bits must be at least one more
+  // than the base-2 logarithm of the number of contiguous
+  // unacknowledged packet numbers, including the new packet.
+  if largest_acked is None:
+    num_unacked = full_pn + 1
+  else:
+    num_unacked = full_pn - largest_acked
+
+  min_bits = log(num_unacked, 2) + 1
+  num_bytes = ceil(min_bits / 8)
+
+  // Return the value after truncating the full packet number
+  // to num_bytes least-significant bytes

```suggestion
  // to num_bytes least-significant bytes.
```

> +EncodePacketNumber(full_pn, largest_acked):
+
+  // The number of bits must be at least one more
+  // than the base-2 logarithm of the number of contiguous
+  // unacknowledged packet numbers, including the new packet.
+  if largest_acked is None:
+    num_unacked = full_pn + 1
+  else:
+    num_unacked = full_pn - largest_acked
+
+  min_bits = log(num_unacked, 2) + 1
+  num_bytes = ceil(min_bits / 8)
+
+  // Return the value after truncating the full packet number
+  // to num_bytes least-significant bytes
+  return truncate(full_pn, num_bytes)

```suggestion
  return encode(full_pn, num_bytes)
```

> +  // Return the value after truncating the full packet number
+  // to num_bytes least-significant bytes

```suggestion
  // Encode the integer value and truncating to the 
  // num_bytes least-significant bytes.
```

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Based on Jana's suggestion on #4313.


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Packet number encoding appendix


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  VarInt decoding pseudocode


  Commit: 75a56bf5d9a03bbdef8ba13b5a8f988d381e045d
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  Apply suggestions from code review

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


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  Add comments


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  Merge pull request #4316 from quicwg/transport/varint_example

VarInt decoding pseudocode


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> +read from a stream of bytes.  The function ReadVarint takes a single argument, a
+sequence of bytes which can be read in network byte order.
+
+~~~
+ReadVarint(data):
+  // The length of variable-length integers is encoded in the
+  // first two bits of the first byte.
+  v = data.next_byte()
+  length = (1 << (v >> 6))
+
+  // Once the length is known, remove these bits and read any
+  // remaining bytes.
+  v = v & 0x3f
+  repeat length-1 times:
+    v = (v << 8) + data.next_byte()
+  return v

Yeah -- there's nothing here that is endian-specific.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4316#discussion_r517016465">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +read from a stream of bytes.  The function ReadVarint takes a single argument, a
+sequence of bytes which can be read in network byte order.
+
+~~~
+ReadVarint(data):
+  // The length of variable-length integers is encoded in the
+  // first two bits of the first byte.
+  v = data.next_byte()
+  length = (1 &lt;&lt; (v &gt;&gt; 6))
+
+  // Once the length is known, remove these bits and read any
+  // remaining bytes.
+  v = v &amp; 0x3f
+  repeat length-1 times:
+    v = (v &lt;&lt; 8) + data.next_byte()
+  return v
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<p>Yeah -- there's nothing here that is endian-specific.</p>

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  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Move spin bit explanation to beginning of section


  Commit: dd8320bc88be0fad63f89d176016db35668232f1
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  Merge pull request #4319 from quicwg/transport/spin-upfront

Move spin bit explanation to beginning of section


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> though I do think that the server does not have to be restricted to 3x when the client unintentionally migrates to a different port, assuming that the server does path validation

This is not clear to me from the PR. I'm personally fine with making an exception for this, but it should be called out in the PR, otherwise I will assume no such exception.

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<p>though I do think that the server does not have to be restricted to 3x when the client unintentionally migrates to a different port, assuming that the server does path validation</p>
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<p>This is not clear to me from the PR. I'm personally fine with making an exception for this, but it should be called out in the PR, otherwise I will assume no such exception.</p>

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Added a wrapper section and intro, then reorder.
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  * Add pseudocode intro
  * Reorder pseudocode sections

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (83)

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<p>Added a wrapper section and intro, then reorder.</p>

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This is right next to the BCP 14 text.


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Establish normative force more directly.


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@nibanks While I think that a server does not have to be restricted under certain circumstances, trying to describe the conditions is going to be tricky. Moreover, we have had the restriction for quite some time; this PR is merely changing that restriction from 2 MTU per RTT to 3x of the bytes received. Therefore, I think that a new issue is needed if we are going to discuss when a server does not have to be restricted. That said, I would prefer not to (re)open that discussion; I think we have discussed it in the past.

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I'm going to take a tilt at lifting some of this text into the existing overview.

> +datagrams to carry its packets.  The version-independent properties of
+QUIC are described in [QUIC-INVARIANTS]; this document describes a particular
+version of QUIC, version 1.

Second sentence here is worth a paragraph.

> +In this version of QUIC, the handshake is performed using TLS.  TLS is not used
+over QUIC as it is over TCP, nor is DTLS used over UDP.  Instead, QUIC replaces
+the TLS record layer with its own interface, described in detail in [QUIC-TLS].

Sentence 2 and 3 are good.

> +The QUIC connection is configured using transport parameters, which are
+transported by TLS and confirmed during the handshake.  The TLS handshake
+provides keys which are used to encrypt the packets QUIC generates.

Too specific to the specific spelling of parameters.

> +When a QUIC connection begins, a version of QUIC needs to be negotiated.
+Clients optimistically begin the handshake with a version of QUIC that they
+support; servers respond with a Version Negotiation packet if that version of
+QUIC is not acceptable.  Once a version is mutually acceptable, the server
+processes the client's handshake packets.

I don't think we need this up front.

> +Most packets sent by QUIC contain a collection of frames.  Frames are the
+individual unit of information in QUIC, and each frame type serves a different
+purpose.  Frames are used to carry control information and to transport
+application data.

Might be better than the original.

> +QUIC includes loss detection mechanisms to detect lost packets, enabling a
+sender to repair a loss by resending the information conveyed by frames
+contained in the lost packets.  This document describes the feedback mechanisms
+provided by the transport; one set of possible algorithms for loss recovery and
+congestion control are described in [QUIC-RECOVERY], but an endpoint can instead
+implement other algorithms using the loss detection tools provided by the
+transport.

We need something from this, but this seems like too many words.

> +connection to survive a change in NAT port mappings or in connection network. In
+this version of QUIC, only clients are allowed to migrate.  In order to reduce

Maybe take this sentence too.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>I'm going to take a tilt at lifting some of this text into the existing overview.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4326#discussion_r517023122">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +datagrams to carry its packets.  The version-independent properties of
+QUIC are described in [QUIC-INVARIANTS]; this document describes a particular
+version of QUIC, version 1.
</pre>
<p>Second sentence here is worth a paragraph.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4326#discussion_r517023340">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +In this version of QUIC, the handshake is performed using TLS.  TLS is not used
+over QUIC as it is over TCP, nor is DTLS used over UDP.  Instead, QUIC replaces
+the TLS record layer with its own interface, described in detail in [QUIC-TLS].
</pre>
<p>Sentence 2 and 3 are good.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4326#discussion_r517023842">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +The QUIC connection is configured using transport parameters, which are
+transported by TLS and confirmed during the handshake.  The TLS handshake
+provides keys which are used to encrypt the packets QUIC generates.
</pre>
<p>Too specific to the specific spelling of parameters.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4326#discussion_r517023935">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +When a QUIC connection begins, a version of QUIC needs to be negotiated.
+Clients optimistically begin the handshake with a version of QUIC that they
+support; servers respond with a Version Negotiation packet if that version of
+QUIC is not acceptable.  Once a version is mutually acceptable, the server
+processes the client&#39;s handshake packets.
</pre>
<p>I don't think we need this up front.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4326#discussion_r517025389">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +Most packets sent by QUIC contain a collection of frames.  Frames are the
+individual unit of information in QUIC, and each frame type serves a different
+purpose.  Frames are used to carry control information and to transport
+application data.
</pre>
<p>Might be better than the original.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4326#discussion_r517025971">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +QUIC includes loss detection mechanisms to detect lost packets, enabling a
+sender to repair a loss by resending the information conveyed by frames
+contained in the lost packets.  This document describes the feedback mechanisms
+provided by the transport; one set of possible algorithms for loss recovery and
+congestion control are described in [QUIC-RECOVERY], but an endpoint can instead
+implement other algorithms using the loss detection tools provided by the
+transport.
</pre>
<p>We need something from this, but this seems like too many words.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4326#discussion_r517027287">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +connection to survive a change in NAT port mappings or in connection network. In
+this version of QUIC, only clients are allowed to migrate.  In order to reduce
</pre>
<p>Maybe take this sentence too.</p>

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> @@ -1991,6 +1991,13 @@ New QUIC versions SHOULD define a new salt value used in calculating initial
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+## Randomness
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+QUIC depends on the ability to generate secure random numbers, both directly for

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> @@ -1991,6 +1991,13 @@ New QUIC versions SHOULD define a new salt value used in calculating initial
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+QUIC depends on endpoint being able to generate secure random numbers, both

```suggestion
QUIC depends on endpoints being able to generate secure random numbers, both
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Plural, again.

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I'm opposed to saying that values from a PRNG shouldn't be exposed.  But
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Closes #4314.


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State CS-PRNG requirements


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Closed #4314 via #4318.

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Merged #4318 into master.

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Can we move the discussion here to the issue, please?

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<p>Can we move the discussion here to the issue, please?</p>

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@MikeBishop we already say that.

The provenance of the value is not security-relevant.  It could be an all zero value and essentially be as good.  Note that the same applies to the keys used to authenticate Retry packets.

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This is a response to the the discussion in #4264 on the potential performance cost of applying this limit on quiescence.

This roundtrip isn't the only perf issue on NAT rebinding:
- a server could reset the congestion controller
- the server infrastructure could send a GOAWAY since incoming packets are having to be redirected between servers, forcing a new connection for subsequent requests.

Despite the fact that we want to have continuity across NAT rebinding, we did not design for it to be seamless in terms of performance. I don't think we should start now.

Let's remember that NAT rebinding is the _uncommon case_, and typically occurs after quiescence of 30 or 60 seconds. A client app that wants to improve performance because this quiescence is a common pattern for it can always use one of many methods, including sending PINGs.

I'd strongly argue against making any recommendations. This is a question where I believe more experience is necessary to learn best practices.

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<p>This is a response to the the discussion in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="731030469" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4264" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4264/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4264">#4264</a> on the potential performance cost of applying this limit on quiescence.</p>
<p>This roundtrip isn't the only perf issue on NAT rebinding:</p>
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<li>a server could reset the congestion controller</li>
<li>the server infrastructure could send a GOAWAY since incoming packets are having to be redirected between servers, forcing a new connection for subsequent requests.</li>
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<p>Despite the fact that we want to have continuity across NAT rebinding, we did not design for it to be seamless in terms of performance. I don't think we should start now.</p>
<p>Let's remember that NAT rebinding is the <em>uncommon case</em>, and typically occurs after quiescence of 30 or 60 seconds. A client app that wants to improve performance because this quiescence is a common pattern for it can always use one of many methods, including sending PINGs.</p>
<p>I'd strongly argue against making any recommendations. This is a question where I believe more experience is necessary to learn best practices.</p>

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> @@ -1894,8 +1894,14 @@ use the server to send more data toward the victim than it would be able to send
 on its own.
 
 The primary defense against amplification attack is verifying that an endpoint

This should be "the peer" instead of "an endpoint", since the context here is that this endpoint is doing the validation.

> +is able to receive packets at the transport address that it claims.  An endpoint
+that responds to packets received from a new address limits the data it sends to
+that address until the peer address is validated.  Prior to validating the
+peer's address, endpoints MUST NOT send datagrams toward that address whose
+total payload exceeds three times the amount of data received from that address.
+This limit on the size of responses is known as the anti-amplification limit.

```suggestion
is able to receive packets at the transport address that it claims. Therefore,
on receiving packets from a new address that is not yet validated, an endpoint
MUST limit the amount of data it sends to the unvalidated address to three times
the amount of data received from that address. This limit on the size of
responses is known as the anti-amplification limit.
```

> +If an endpoint is unable to expand the datagram payload to 1200 bytes, no
+padding is necessary.  However, this means that the path MTU will not be

```suggestion
When an endpoint is unable to expand the datagram size to 1200 bytes due to
the anti-amplification limit, the path MTU will not be
```

> +if it is constrained by an anti-amplification limit.  This will only occur if
+the PATH_CHALLENGE was not sent in an expanded datagram.

```suggestion
if the resulting data exceeds the anti-amplification limit.  This is expected
to only occur if the received PATH_CHALLENGE was not sent in an expanded
datagram.
```

> +If the PATH_CHALLENGE frame was sent in a datagram that was not expanded to at
+least 1200 bytes, an endpoint can regard the address as valid for the purposes
+of sending more than three times the amount of data that has been received.
+However, the path MTU is not validated so the endpoint MUST initiate another
+path validation to verify that the path MTU is sufficient.

```suggestion
If the PATH_CHALLENGE frame that resulted in successful path validation was sent
in a datagram that was not expanded to at least 1200 bytes, the endpoint can
regard the address as valid for the purposes of sending more than three times
the amount of data that has been received. However, the endpoint MUST initiate
another path validation with an expanded datagram to verify that the path
supports required MTU.
```

> +is validated, servers MUST NOT send more data on the path than three times the
+number of bytes received on the path; see {{address-validation}}.

```suggestion
is validated, servers MUST limit data sent on the path to three times the
number of bytes received on the path; see {{address-validation}}.
```

> +send.  Endpoints cannot send data toward an unvalidated address in excesss of
+three times the data received from that address.

```suggestion
send.  Endpoints cannot send data toward an unvalidated address in excess of
three times the data received from that address.
```

> +: The three times anti-amplification limit only applies when sending in
+  response to packets received from an unvalidated address. The
+  anti-amplification limit does not apply to clients that establish a new
+  connection or when path migration is initiated.

```suggestion
: The anti-amplification limit only applies when an endpoint responds to packets
  received from an unvalidated address. The anti-amplification limit does not
  apply to clients when establishing a new connection or when initiating path
  migration.
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I would also point out that we suggest that [path validation can be performed when using a path that hasn't been used for some time](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-8.2-4).  This isn't three datagrams, but it's now a fully padded datagram, which will allow for three packets.  That's pretty good relative to a full handshake, if an implementation chooses to do that.

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<p>I would also point out that we suggest that <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-8.2-4" rel="nofollow">path validation can be performed when using a path that hasn't been used for some time</a>.  This isn't three datagrams, but it's now a fully padded datagram, which will allow for three packets.  That's pretty good relative to a full handshake, if an implementation chooses to do that.</p>

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This takes some of the concepts that @MikeBishop added in #4326 and
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It removes the bullet feature list and puts that into the abstract as a
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I have also reordered this slightly.  There is no perfect ordering here,
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This takes some of the concepts that @MikeBishop added in #4326 and
massages those into the introduction.  The net effect is two-fold: a
little more substance in this section and the addition of prominent,
early references to the key supporting documents.

It removes the bullet feature list and puts that into the abstract as a
single sentence.

I have also reordered this slightly.  There is no perfect ordering here,
but this no longer slavishly adheres to the document structure.

Closes #4326.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4329

-- Commit Summary --

  * Restructure the abstract and overview

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (58)

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<p>This takes some of the concepts that <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/MikeBishop/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/MikeBishop">@MikeBishop</a> added in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="735441499" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4326" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4326/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4326">#4326</a> and<br>
massages those into the introduction.  The net effect is two-fold: a<br>
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<p>It removes the bullet feature list and puts that into the abstract as a<br>
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<p>I have also reordered this slightly.  There is no perfect ordering here,<br>
but this no longer slavishly adheres to the document structure.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes pull request #4326.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="735441499" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4326" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4326/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4326">#4326</a>.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/migration-amplification
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  Branch: refs/heads/migration-amplification
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  Commit: 5218286342445db502825c524a7dc2b839b3588b
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Cite the notation section the first time it is used

Closes #4284.


  Commit: 1d2a727c1dd9fcde74eb917b1606ee4f0af97cb3
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Describe inputs to the packet number algorithm

Closes #4297.


  Commit: 9c9e2869b69d6c7ebe0d4db1dd0a1c0004d41b78
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Maximum datagram size of 1200 is a requirement

On endpoints.

Closes #4271.


  Commit: 15d7eb45d5e52e47948efb16ba18408e5e7f53e9
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Glue

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: ba727d62f53ea32b0b8ab9d1063802d31b06e180
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Yes, it's bytes

Closes #4303.


  Commit: 25a7e511aecb2f0aaed3f6cd026ad7ef3a0119f1
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Padding non-HOWTO

We explicitly don't recommend anything for defeating traffic analysis.
We only offer PADDING frames as they are known to be useful in existing
strategies.

Closes #4295.


  Commit: a69bd0ee0ae0c7e5543c152deb6721d0e91dc52d
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Explain what the bitfield references mean

Closes #4269.


  Commit: 1c6b7a39f7a24bb470377f19e66326edde6d30c9
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  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Moer txt

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 09997e339e54a11812fb954b68ce7e82b739ef51
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Tweak framing of frames table

Less detail above, but a pointer to what follows.

Closes #4299.


  Commit: 3cd4a6956b97a81736a367959e8fd40ecb934294
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  is/are potato/tomato

Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>


  Commit: 48c4251af3625a60266e4b6740cfc86d60d28cd7
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Tweaked suggestion


  Commit: 4b07ec2f4518af101c4501e6a370e633ee904d33
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Define stateless reset token

This was a little obtuse; it would benefit from a clearer description of
what the token is and how it is used.

Closes #4285.


  Commit: 9bcb4467de99c8816f95e5723a412a78570d7b78
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Mike's suggestions


  Commit: a3c64237d1b8009e903b4d57a5585178e6f3345b
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  polish

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: af48a3d1465e6dcdf370a9fb97494cc2f4d12356
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Stop using initial timeout

Address validation can use 3*PTO, just taking the maximum of the old and
new path PTO.  The idea of initial timeout is easily replaced in
recovery by instead describing the effect on the PTO.  The net effect is
the same, except that new paths often have to include the maximum ACK
delay, which this doesn't incorporate.

Closes #4261.
Closes #4262.


  Commit: a51f8e9406bed1e4067ddf74adaae9d6f809e0d5
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Remove formula with confusing variables


  Commit: 284cebd5fbe87b68e727292f95108c0d609e71b2
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  initial RTO comparison

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 4fbb339594a07993a49a8f2e39d16bf03dc92e44
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add a definition for "frame"

I struggled with this a little.  Happy to take suggestions.

Closes #4266.


  Commit: a6031307451a4563fa89d64faa60597a70e9611c
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Mike's suggestions, tweaked

Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>


  Commit: b630470da763255aab2f1403780947b96aa1165d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b630470da763255aab2f1403780947b96aa1165d
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  s/veyed/tained/


  Commit: 598a39ddf750d5b766b744183186681769099b7e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/598a39ddf750d5b766b744183186681769099b7e
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Packets and datagrams and packets

Based on Jana's suggestion on #4313.


  Commit: 3abb3550658fcf6613b342b48c3da54079245c99
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Packet number encoding in appendix, move examples


  Commit: 10310405803667cd0d6a0d0e1d9d738eadd396e5
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Expand example


  Commit: 9a50d2325c154d70cd15c364fc878557a538169e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9a50d2325c154d70cd15c364fc878557a538169e
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Apply suggestions from code review

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: afd5ac1f3346bdbb40432833d68e7db975b8aea6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/afd5ac1f3346bdbb40432833d68e7db975b8aea6
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Less python, more handwaving


  Commit: 71c778f40102f71968a73a784923329efd2cc1c9
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/71c778f40102f71968a73a784923329efd2cc1c9
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  period

Co-authored-by: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>


  Commit: cc684115ded084d0d4c3a2a1c66792c51bb4470a
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  Truncatencode

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: da88b361fc3c17d18345227283b895b465db6c25
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Restore the comment in the original text


  Commit: f03ef8f19120268de085d0a6a3e54ade96f13047
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  VarInt decoding pseudocode


  Commit: fe4dd1b3d32c5e163b77c175f1bc7ebf47f3e1ff
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Apply suggestions from code review

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


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  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  Add comments


  Commit: f7f62c43b6ff62f60c885cc48ffcdc2456a031b5
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  Lars's comment


  Commit: 3eeeae99a1fb47373c504c35ac0bbd189f8fb82d
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Expand for clarity


  Commit: 53ae7aebabf16b15da219c6437917fdcf7044ee0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/53ae7aebabf16b15da219c6437917fdcf7044ee0
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Move spin bit explanation to beginning of section


  Commit: c4e3d6df4bed21af62cdd5ae9bcb78e8a7e0b686
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c4e3d6df4bed21af62cdd5ae9bcb78e8a7e0b686
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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  Move overview to be first subsection


  Commit: ea17765dd7d15b2a5b02749350e50a170db9894e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ea17765dd7d15b2a5b02749350e50a170db9894e
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Intro to Security Considerations


  Commit: 235072d159bd898170d7f17e1782a9e81c15c1ba
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/235072d159bd898170d7f17e1782a9e81c15c1ba
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Martin's suggested intro, tweaked


  Commit: 16659516319cdbd43067e68faf7a10b6667a381d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/16659516319cdbd43067e68faf7a10b6667a381d
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md

  Log Message:
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  Establish normative force more directly.

This is right next to the BCP 14 text.


  Commit: e6140bb7a3406ed815b4bbe8f2b49c7bbf725d41
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e6140bb7a3406ed815b4bbe8f2b49c7bbf725d41
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Add pseudocode intro


  Commit: caf1e121fea36c39ca2c73e94c110799dfe7dce5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/caf1e121fea36c39ca2c73e94c110799dfe7dce5
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Reorder pseudocode sections


  Commit: 2860a6b2987ea22f67b1a8bd9768c49d81ea6f08
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2860a6b2987ea22f67b1a8bd9768c49d81ea6f08
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  plural

Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>


  Commit: 7808d2d27b65fc87cf8efac0071267c7943b3760
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7808d2d27b65fc87cf8efac0071267c7943b3760
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Wrap


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/46bef9ece7eb...7808d2d27b65


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@martinthomson pushed 42 commits.

5218286342445db502825c524a7dc2b839b3588b  Cite the notation section the first time it is used
1d2a727c1dd9fcde74eb917b1606ee4f0af97cb3  Describe inputs to the packet number algorithm
9c9e2869b69d6c7ebe0d4db1dd0a1c0004d41b78  Maximum datagram size of 1200 is a requirement
15d7eb45d5e52e47948efb16ba18408e5e7f53e9  Glue
ba727d62f53ea32b0b8ab9d1063802d31b06e180  Yes, it's bytes
25a7e511aecb2f0aaed3f6cd026ad7ef3a0119f1  Padding non-HOWTO
a69bd0ee0ae0c7e5543c152deb6721d0e91dc52d  Explain what the bitfield references mean
1c6b7a39f7a24bb470377f19e66326edde6d30c9  Moer txt
09997e339e54a11812fb954b68ce7e82b739ef51  Tweak framing of frames table
3cd4a6956b97a81736a367959e8fd40ecb934294  is/are potato/tomato
48c4251af3625a60266e4b6740cfc86d60d28cd7  Tweaked suggestion
4b07ec2f4518af101c4501e6a370e633ee904d33  Define stateless reset token
9bcb4467de99c8816f95e5723a412a78570d7b78  Mike's suggestions
a3c64237d1b8009e903b4d57a5585178e6f3345b  polish
af48a3d1465e6dcdf370a9fb97494cc2f4d12356  Stop using initial timeout
a51f8e9406bed1e4067ddf74adaae9d6f809e0d5  Remove formula with confusing variables
284cebd5fbe87b68e727292f95108c0d609e71b2  initial RTO comparison
4fbb339594a07993a49a8f2e39d16bf03dc92e44  Add a definition for "frame"
a6031307451a4563fa89d64faa60597a70e9611c  Mike's suggestions, tweaked
b630470da763255aab2f1403780947b96aa1165d  s/veyed/tained/
598a39ddf750d5b766b744183186681769099b7e  Packets and datagrams and packets
3abb3550658fcf6613b342b48c3da54079245c99  Packet number encoding in appendix, move examples
10310405803667cd0d6a0d0e1d9d738eadd396e5  Expand example
9a50d2325c154d70cd15c364fc878557a538169e  Apply suggestions from code review
afd5ac1f3346bdbb40432833d68e7db975b8aea6  Less python, more handwaving
71c778f40102f71968a73a784923329efd2cc1c9  period
cc684115ded084d0d4c3a2a1c66792c51bb4470a  Truncatencode
da88b361fc3c17d18345227283b895b465db6c25  Restore the comment in the original text
f03ef8f19120268de085d0a6a3e54ade96f13047  VarInt decoding pseudocode
fe4dd1b3d32c5e163b77c175f1bc7ebf47f3e1ff  Apply suggestions from code review
daa679df4326653d1ea69bf31eefc9af69835745  Add comments
f7f62c43b6ff62f60c885cc48ffcdc2456a031b5  Lars's comment
3eeeae99a1fb47373c504c35ac0bbd189f8fb82d  Expand for clarity
53ae7aebabf16b15da219c6437917fdcf7044ee0  Move spin bit explanation to beginning of section
c4e3d6df4bed21af62cdd5ae9bcb78e8a7e0b686  Move overview to be first subsection
ea17765dd7d15b2a5b02749350e50a170db9894e  Intro to Security Considerations
235072d159bd898170d7f17e1782a9e81c15c1ba  Martin's suggested intro, tweaked
16659516319cdbd43067e68faf7a10b6667a381d  Establish normative force more directly.
e6140bb7a3406ed815b4bbe8f2b49c7bbf725d41  Add pseudocode intro
caf1e121fea36c39ca2c73e94c110799dfe7dce5  Reorder pseudocode sections
2860a6b2987ea22f67b1a8bd9768c49d81ea6f08  plural
7808d2d27b65fc87cf8efac0071267c7943b3760  Wrap


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<p><a href="https://github.com/martinthomson" class="user-mention">@martinthomson</a> pushed 42 commits.</p>

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  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5218286342445db502825c524a7dc2b839b3588b">5218286</a>  Cite the notation section the first time it is used</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1d2a727c1dd9fcde74eb917b1606ee4f0af97cb3">1d2a727</a>  Describe inputs to the packet number algorithm</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9c9e2869b69d6c7ebe0d4db1dd0a1c0004d41b78">9c9e286</a>  Maximum datagram size of 1200 is a requirement</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/15d7eb45d5e52e47948efb16ba18408e5e7f53e9">15d7eb4</a>  Glue</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ba727d62f53ea32b0b8ab9d1063802d31b06e180">ba727d6</a>  Yes, it&#39;s bytes</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/25a7e511aecb2f0aaed3f6cd026ad7ef3a0119f1">25a7e51</a>  Padding non-HOWTO</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a69bd0ee0ae0c7e5543c152deb6721d0e91dc52d">a69bd0e</a>  Explain what the bitfield references mean</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1c6b7a39f7a24bb470377f19e66326edde6d30c9">1c6b7a3</a>  Moer txt</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/09997e339e54a11812fb954b68ce7e82b739ef51">09997e3</a>  Tweak framing of frames table</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3cd4a6956b97a81736a367959e8fd40ecb934294">3cd4a69</a>  is/are potato/tomato</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48c4251af3625a60266e4b6740cfc86d60d28cd7">48c4251</a>  Tweaked suggestion</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4b07ec2f4518af101c4501e6a370e633ee904d33">4b07ec2</a>  Define stateless reset token</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9bcb4467de99c8816f95e5723a412a78570d7b78">9bcb446</a>  Mike&#39;s suggestions</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a3c64237d1b8009e903b4d57a5585178e6f3345b">a3c6423</a>  polish</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/af48a3d1465e6dcdf370a9fb97494cc2f4d12356">af48a3d</a>  Stop using initial timeout</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a51f8e9406bed1e4067ddf74adaae9d6f809e0d5">a51f8e9</a>  Remove formula with confusing variables</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/284cebd5fbe87b68e727292f95108c0d609e71b2">284cebd</a>  initial RTO comparison</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4fbb339594a07993a49a8f2e39d16bf03dc92e44">4fbb339</a>  Add a definition for &quot;frame&quot;</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a6031307451a4563fa89d64faa60597a70e9611c">a603130</a>  Mike&#39;s suggestions, tweaked</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b630470da763255aab2f1403780947b96aa1165d">b630470</a>  s/veyed/tained/</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/598a39ddf750d5b766b744183186681769099b7e">598a39d</a>  Packets and datagrams and packets</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3abb3550658fcf6613b342b48c3da54079245c99">3abb355</a>  Packet number encoding in appendix, move examples</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/10310405803667cd0d6a0d0e1d9d738eadd396e5">1031040</a>  Expand example</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9a50d2325c154d70cd15c364fc878557a538169e">9a50d23</a>  Apply suggestions from code review</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/afd5ac1f3346bdbb40432833d68e7db975b8aea6">afd5ac1</a>  Less python, more handwaving</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/71c778f40102f71968a73a784923329efd2cc1c9">71c778f</a>  period</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cc684115ded084d0d4c3a2a1c66792c51bb4470a">cc68411</a>  Truncatencode</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/da88b361fc3c17d18345227283b895b465db6c25">da88b36</a>  Restore the comment in the original text</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f03ef8f19120268de085d0a6a3e54ade96f13047">f03ef8f</a>  VarInt decoding pseudocode</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fe4dd1b3d32c5e163b77c175f1bc7ebf47f3e1ff">fe4dd1b</a>  Apply suggestions from code review</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/daa679df4326653d1ea69bf31eefc9af69835745">daa679d</a>  Add comments</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f7f62c43b6ff62f60c885cc48ffcdc2456a031b5">f7f62c4</a>  Lars&#39;s comment</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3eeeae99a1fb47373c504c35ac0bbd189f8fb82d">3eeeae9</a>  Expand for clarity</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/53ae7aebabf16b15da219c6437917fdcf7044ee0">53ae7ae</a>  Move spin bit explanation to beginning of section</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c4e3d6df4bed21af62cdd5ae9bcb78e8a7e0b686">c4e3d6d</a>  Move overview to be first subsection</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ea17765dd7d15b2a5b02749350e50a170db9894e">ea17765</a>  Intro to Security Considerations</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/235072d159bd898170d7f17e1782a9e81c15c1ba">235072d</a>  Martin&#39;s suggested intro, tweaked</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/16659516319cdbd43067e68faf7a10b6667a381d">1665951</a>  Establish normative force more directly.</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e6140bb7a3406ed815b4bbe8f2b49c7bbf725d41">e6140bb</a>  Add pseudocode intro</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/caf1e121fea36c39ca2c73e94c110799dfe7dce5">caf1e12</a>  Reorder pseudocode sections</li>
  <li><a class="commit-link" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2860a6b2987ea22f67b1a8bd9768c49d81ea6f08">2860a6b</a>  plural</li>
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I finished my slides, and think I need 10 min to get through them.

I suspect we won't have 10 min of discussion, so maybe we get the time back, but I'd like to reserve the 20 just in case.



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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

Yes, I think this is a good direction.

> +Application data can be reliably delivered by QUIC. An acknowledgment-based
+algorithm for detecting and recovering from loss of data is described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. QUIC depends on congestion control to avoid network
+congestion. An exemplary congestion control algorithm is also described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.

I feel like it's worth mentioning that QUIC provides the feedback necessary to implement such algorithms, but doesn't mandate a particular one.

> @@ -92,7 +92,10 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
-This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  Accompanying
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+multiplexed streams for delivering ordered application data, flow control,
+low-latency connection establishment, migration, resilience to path changes,

For the abstract, I feel like it's sufficient to let migration and path changes be the same thing.

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>Yes, I think this is a good direction.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4329#discussion_r517395033">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +Application data can be reliably delivered by QUIC. An acknowledgment-based
+algorithm for detecting and recovering from loss of data is described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. QUIC depends on congestion control to avoid network
+congestion. An exemplary congestion control algorithm is also described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
</pre>
<p>I feel like it's worth mentioning that QUIC provides the feedback necessary to implement such algorithms, but doesn't mandate a particular one.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4329#discussion_r517395828">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -92,7 +92,10 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
-This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  Accompanying
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+multiplexed streams for delivering ordered application data, flow control,
+low-latency connection establishment, migration, resilience to path changes,
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I agree with the sentiment that NAT rebinding is an edge case and it likely to have all sorts of performance related issues, and we don't really need to try to optimize for them. I personally think mentioning the known problems an possible solutions would be nice though.

The only real problem I left is that is seems there is some confusion (as seen from my discussion with Kazuho on the PR) about amplification protection and its relation to port-only NAT rebinding. Is it an exception to the rule or not? I didn't see any specific text on this one way or the other in the latest PR last I look, and I think it might be worth while to have some.

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<p>I agree with the sentiment that NAT rebinding is an edge case and it likely to have all sorts of performance related issues, and we don't really need to try to optimize for them. I personally think mentioning the known problems an possible solutions would be nice though.</p>
<p>The only real problem I left is that is seems there is some confusion (as seen from my discussion with Kazuho on the PR) about amplification protection and its relation to port-only NAT rebinding. Is it an exception to the rule or not? I didn't see any specific text on this one way or the other in the latest PR last I look, and I think it might be worth while to have some.</p>

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> If the client IP address has changed, the server MUST adhere to the anti-amplification limit; see {{address-validation}}.  Note that in the presence of NAT, this requirement might be insufficient to protect other hosts that share the NAT from amplification attack.

My reading of this text is that for a port-only change, you're not mandated to, but a cautious implementation could certainly choose to apply the limit to that case as well.

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Fixes #4259.
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  * Generalize CID-based path validation

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4259.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="727019961" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4259" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4259/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4259">#4259</a>.</p>

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The issue suggests that _any_ packet from the server validates the server's address, because it echoes the client's CID.  I'm not sure that's correct, because the client might have chosen a zero-length SCID in its initial packet, and the server doesn't echo the ODCID in Initial packets.

This PR generalizes the existing rules for servers -- receiving a sufficiently-complex DCID or a valid Handshake packet is actual proof of address ownership.

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<p>The issue suggests that <em>any</em> packet from the server validates the server's address, because it echoes the client's CID.  I'm not sure that's correct, because the client might have chosen a zero-length SCID in its initial packet, and the server doesn't echo the ODCID in Initial packets.</p>
<p>This PR generalizes the existing rules for servers -- receiving a sufficiently-complex DCID or a valid Handshake packet is actual proof of address ownership.</p>

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One point that seems to have been lost is the addition of an error code -- see discussion [here](https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4264#discussion_r514029543). I think adding an error code for NO_VIABLE_PATH is a good idea.

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<p>One point that seems to have been lost is the addition of an error code -- see discussion <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4264#discussion_r514029543" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4264/hovercard">here</a>. I think adding an error code for NO_VIABLE_PATH is a good idea.</p>

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<p>One point that seems to have been lost is the addition of an error code earlier. I think adding an error code for NO_VIABLE_PATH is a good idea.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/overview-abstract
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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  Changed paths:
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> @@ -92,7 +92,10 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
-This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  Accompanying
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+multiplexed streams for delivering ordered application data, flow control,
+low-latency connection establishment, migration, resilience to path changes,

Agreed.  I've tweaked this.  And the next sentence too, mainly to avoid a possessive.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4329#discussion_r517760035">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -92,7 +92,10 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
-This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  Accompanying
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+multiplexed streams for delivering ordered application data, flow control,
+low-latency connection establishment, migration, resilience to path changes,
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> +Application data can be reliably delivered by QUIC. An acknowledgment-based
+algorithm for detecting and recovering from loss of data is described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. QUIC depends on congestion control to avoid network
+congestion. An exemplary congestion control algorithm is also described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.

I tried, but couldn't find anything satisfactory.  I don't think that ECN needs top-billing any more than the spin bit or any of the other minor protocol features we have.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4329#discussion_r517760320">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +Application data can be reliably delivered by QUIC. An acknowledgment-based
+algorithm for detecting and recovering from loss of data is described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. QUIC depends on congestion control to avoid network
+congestion. An exemplary congestion control algorithm is also described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
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<p>I tried, but couldn't find anything satisfactory.  I don't think that ECN needs top-billing any more than the spin bit or any of the other minor protocol features we have.</p>

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

With tweaks (and likely a rewrap), this is good.

> @@ -1922,13 +1922,14 @@ validation is performed both during connection establishment (see
 
 Connection establishment implicitly provides address validation for both
 endpoints.  In particular, receipt of a packet protected with Handshake keys
-confirms that the client received the Initial packet from the server.  Once the
-server has successfully processed a Handshake packet from the client, it can
-consider the client address to have been validated.
-
-Additionally, a server MAY consider the client address validated if the
-client uses a connection ID chosen by the server and the connection ID contains
-at least 64 bits of entropy.
+confirms that the peer received an endpoint's Initial packet.  Once an endpoint

```suggestion
confirms that the peer successfully processed an Initial packet.  Once an endpoint
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> @@ -1922,13 +1922,14 @@ validation is performed both during connection establishment (see
 
 Connection establishment implicitly provides address validation for both
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-confirms that the client received the Initial packet from the server.  Once the
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+confirms that the peer received an endpoint's Initial packet.  Once an endpoint
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+peer's address to have been validated.

```suggestion
peer address to have been validated.
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  Branch: refs/heads/no-viable-path
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-05 (Thu, 05 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Add an error code for when the path fails

This is a bit of a niche code, as it is only narrowly useful for
signaling loss of paths.  But people wanted it and it doesn't code that
much.

For #4257.



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This is a bit of a niche code, as it is only narrowly useful for
signaling loss of paths.  But people wanted it and it doesn&#39;t code that
much.

Note the target of this pull request.

For #4257.
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  * Add an error code for when the path fails

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (11)

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<p>This is a bit of a niche code, as it is only narrowly useful for<br>
signaling loss of paths.  But people wanted it and it doesn't code that<br>
much.</p>
<p>Note the target of this pull request.</p>
<p>For <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="726664748" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4257" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4257/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4257">#4257</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Add an error code for when the path fails</li>
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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

one suggestion, but lgtm

> @@ -2311,7 +2311,9 @@ When an endpoint abandons path validation, it determines that the path is
 unusable.  This does not necessarily imply a failure of the connection -
 endpoints can continue sending packets over other paths as appropriate.  If no
 paths are available, an endpoint can wait for a new path to become available or
-close the connection.
+close the connection.  An endpoint that has no valid network path to its peer
+MAY signal this using the NO_VIABLE_PATH connection error, noting that this is
+only possible if the network has a limited MTU.

```suggestion
only possible if the network path exists but does not support the required
MTU {{datagram-size}}.
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Sec 12.4 uses MUST:

> An endpoint MUST treat receipt of a frame in a packet type that is not permitted as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

Sec 12.5 uses MAY:

> Note that it is not possible to send the following frames in 0-RTT packets for various reasons: ACK, CRYPTO, HANDSHAKE_DONE, NEW_TOKEN, PATH_RESPONSE, and RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID. A server MAY treat receipt of these frames in 0-RTT packets as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

Aren't they contradictory?


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<p>Sec 12.4 uses MUST:</p>
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<p>An endpoint MUST treat receipt of a frame in a packet type that is not permitted as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.</p>
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<p>Sec 12.5 uses MAY:</p>
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<p>Note that it is not possible to send the following frames in 0-RTT packets for various reasons: ACK, CRYPTO, HANDSHAKE_DONE, NEW_TOKEN, PATH_RESPONSE, and RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID. A server MAY treat receipt of these frames in 0-RTT packets as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.</p>
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<p>Aren't they contradictory?</p>

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There are three places which refer to "Section *9.3* of QUIC-TLS". I think they should refer to "Section *9.5* of QUIC-TLS".


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<p>There are three places which refer to "Section <em>9.3</em> of QUIC-TLS". I think they should refer to "Section <em>9.5</em> of QUIC-TLS".</p>

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Not contradictory.  These are not impermissible, they are instead impossible.  An endpoint is required (MUST) to reject impermissible frames, but merely allows (MAY) to reject impossible frames.

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<p>Not contradictory.  These are not impermissible, they are instead impossible.  An endpoint is required (MUST) to reject impermissible frames, but merely allows (MAY) to reject impossible frames.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/9-point-5
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 29c3245f412887de14ad8164d3b3c0bb7930dc07
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/29c3245f412887de14ad8164d3b3c0bb7930dc07
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-05 (Thu, 05 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Correctly cite Section 9.5 of -tls

Closes #4333.



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Closes #4333.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4334

-- Commit Summary --

  * Correctly cite Section 9.5 of -tls

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (6)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4333.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="736630589" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4333" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4333/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4333">#4333</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Correctly cite Section 9.5 of -tls</li>
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How we can distinguish impermissible and impossible?

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What is permitted is in the bullet list in S12.5.  Anything else is impermissible.  What is impossible is noted in the paragraph after that.  If you don't care to distinguish the two (which is entirely reasonable), then treat them all as connection errors.

(I think that our code has a mixed stance because we don't care to police based on endpoint role.)

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<p>What is permitted is in the bullet list in S12.5.  Anything else is impermissible.  What is impossible is noted in the paragraph after that.  If you don't care to distinguish the two (which is entirely reasonable), then treat them all as connection errors.</p>
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I'm still puzzled in Section 12.4 and 12.5. Which does "Pkts" in the Table 3 mean, permissible or possible?

I guess it's "possible". ACK, CRYPTO, HANDSHAKE_DONE, NEW_TOKEN, PATH_RESPONSE, and RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID are impossible in 0-RTT. But PATH_RESPONSE and RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID are marked with "0".


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<p>I'm still puzzled in Section 12.4 and 12.5. Which does "Pkts" in the Table 3 mean, permissible or possible?</p>
<p>I guess it's "possible". ACK, CRYPTO, HANDSHAKE_DONE, NEW_TOKEN, PATH_RESPONSE, and RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID are impossible in 0-RTT. But PATH_RESPONSE and RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID are marked with "0".</p>

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@kazuho approved this pull request.

Thank you for the PR.

This error code will be useful, as the only other way of closing the connection would be to use NO_ERROR. Then, it would be impossible to know why the connection was abruptly closed.



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<p>Thank you for the PR.</p>
<p>This error code will be useful, as the only other way of closing the connection would be to use NO_ERROR. Then, it would be impossible to know why the connection was abruptly closed.</p>

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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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  A zero-length connection ID is always good

For all packets.  For all network paths.



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For all packets.  For all network paths.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4335

-- Commit Summary --

  * A zero-length connection ID is always good

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (5)

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<p>For all packets.  For all network paths.</p>

<hr>

<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>A zero-length connection ID is always good</li>
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> +Application data can be reliably delivered by QUIC. An acknowledgment-based
+algorithm for detecting and recovering from loss of data is described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. QUIC depends on congestion control to avoid network
+congestion. An exemplary congestion control algorithm is also described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.

I'm not suggesting calling out ECN specifically, but making sure the general focus of -transport versus -recovery is clear.  Transport defines feedback mechanisms, but no algorithm.  Recovery provides *an* algorithm, but not *the* algorithm.

Perhaps as simple as:

> QUIC provides the necessary feedback to implement reliable delivery and congestion control. An algorithm for detecting and recovering from loss of data is described in....

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4329#discussion_r518130688">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +Application data can be reliably delivered by QUIC. An acknowledgment-based
+algorithm for detecting and recovering from loss of data is described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. QUIC depends on congestion control to avoid network
+congestion. An exemplary congestion control algorithm is also described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
</pre>
<p>I'm not suggesting calling out ECN specifically, but making sure the general focus of -transport versus -recovery is clear.  Transport defines feedback mechanisms, but no algorithm.  Recovery provides <em>an</em> algorithm, but not <em>the</em> algorithm.</p>
<p>Perhaps as simple as:</p>
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  Branch: refs/heads/transport/generalize_cid_pv
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-05 (Thu, 05 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Branch: refs/heads/transport/generalize_cid_pv
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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

Yes, there's value in having a way to fail fast.

> @@ -6411,6 +6414,12 @@ AEAD_LIMIT_REACHED (0xf):
 : An endpoint has reached the confidentiality or integrity limit for the AEAD
   algorithm used by the given connection.
 
+NO_VIABLE_PATH (0x10):
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+: An endpoint has determined that the network path is incapable of supporting
+  QUIC.  An endpoint is unlikely to receive CONNECTION_CLOSE carrying this code
+  unless the reason is to do the path not supporting a large enough MTU.

```suggestion
  except when the path does not support a large enough MTU.
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(I couldn't find anything on this, but I'm prepared to be corrected.  Also, it's late, so if this is closed, I'm totally OK with that.)

We're just in the process of doing full validation of pseudo-header fields (I know, seems late, what are you gonna do about that).  And we realized that there is no error code for indicating this sort of error.  That is, if pseudo-fields are out of order, or a request contains `:status`, or there are uppercase characters.

[Section 4.1.1.1](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-http.html#section-4.1.1.1) contains lots of MUSTs, but it seems to rely entirely on the definition of "malformed" which leads to H3_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR.  This is fine, but not especially helpful in isolating problems.

Could we define an error code for this specific case?

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<p>(I couldn't find anything on this, but I'm prepared to be corrected.  Also, it's late, so if this is closed, I'm totally OK with that.)</p>
<p>We're just in the process of doing full validation of pseudo-header fields (I know, seems late, what are you gonna do about that).  And we realized that there is no error code for indicating this sort of error.  That is, if pseudo-fields are out of order, or a request contains <code>:status</code>, or there are uppercase characters.</p>
<p><a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-http.html#section-4.1.1.1" rel="nofollow">Section 4.1.1.1</a> contains lots of MUSTs, but it seems to rely entirely on the definition of "malformed" which leads to H3_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR.  This is fine, but not especially helpful in isolating problems.</p>
<p>Could we define an error code for this specific case?</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/overview-abstract
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-06 (Fri, 06 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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  Branch: refs/heads/overview-abstract
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-06 (Fri, 06 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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> +Application data can be reliably delivered by QUIC. An acknowledgment-based
+algorithm for detecting and recovering from loss of data is described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. QUIC depends on congestion control to avoid network
+congestion. An exemplary congestion control algorithm is also described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4329#discussion_r518412408">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +Application data can be reliably delivered by QUIC. An acknowledgment-based
+algorithm for detecting and recovering from loss of data is described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}. QUIC depends on congestion control to avoid network
+congestion. An exemplary congestion control algorithm is also described in
+{{QUIC-RECOVERY}}.
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  Branch: refs/heads/migration-amplification
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-05 (Thu, 05 Nov 2020)

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  Add an error code for when the path fails

This is a bit of a niche code, as it is only narrowly useful for
signaling loss of paths.  But people wanted it and it doesn't code that
much.

For #4257.


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  Merge pull request #4331 from quicwg/no-viable-path

Add an error code for when the path fails


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/593d5527ff8f...bbc0711e5fc4


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Merged #4331 into migration-amplification.

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@martinthomson pushed 4 commits.

4769dbea68fe7bfdc70a70d64f141f58f0a4c7f3  Add an error code for when the path fails
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bbc0711e5fc4c8bda1be34b52b5a99e68defd284  Merge pull request #4331 from quicwg/no-viable-path


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The curlies were fine, but we use brackets already for:

```
for pn_space in [ Initial, Handshake, ApplicationData ]:
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So this is arguably more consistent.
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<p>The curlies were fine, but we use brackets already for:</p>
<pre><code>for pn_space in [ Initial, Handshake, ApplicationData ]:
</code></pre>
<p>So this is arguably more consistent.</p>

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The description neglected to mention this.  Obviously, the
confidentiality protection (specifically, the lack thereof) is the part
that needs to be highlighted, but we shouldn&#39;t neglect the other purpose
of using an AEAD here.
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<p>The description neglected to mention this.  Obviously, the<br>
confidentiality protection (specifically, the lack thereof) is the part<br>
that needs to be highlighted, but we shouldn't neglect the other purpose<br>
of using an AEAD here.</p>

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The one nit here regards this sentence:

> QUIC starts a loss epoch when a packet is lost and ends one when any packet sent after the epoch starts is acknowledged.

This seems right to me.  You might rewrite this as:

> QUIC starts a loss epoch when a packet is lost. A loss epoch ends one when any packet sent after the start of the epoch is acknowledged.

But I don't think that is appreciably better.  I think we can close this with no action unless we get some enthusiasm for rewording.

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<p>The one nit here regards this sentence:</p>
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<p>QUIC starts a loss epoch when a packet is lost and ends one when any packet sent after the epoch starts is acknowledged.</p>
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<p>This seems right to me.  You might rewrite this as:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>QUIC starts a loss epoch when a packet is lost. A loss epoch ends one when any packet sent after the start of the epoch is acknowledged.</p>
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<p>But I don't think that is appreciably better.  I think we can close this with no action unless we get some enthusiasm for rewording.</p>

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We have been successful in recovering the port number that this protocol uses.  So we have a clear example of where reclamation was successful and useful.

That was made much harder due to a lack of an understanding about reclamation.  Being clear up front should help avoid problems.

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<p>That was made much harder due to a lack of an understanding about reclamation.  Being clear up front should help avoid problems.</p>
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It's pretty bad.

Personally, I'm still comfortable with it.  Server deployments are far
less likely to made without due consideration to the environment into
which they find themselves.

Closes #4258.



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It&#39;s pretty bad.

Personally, I&#39;m still comfortable with it.  Server deployments are far
less likely to made without due consideration to the environment into
which they find themselves.

Closes #4258.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4339

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  * Document request forgery by version negotiation

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (24)

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<p>It's pretty bad.</p>
<p>Personally, I'm still comfortable with it.  Server deployments are far<br>
less likely to made without due consideration to the environment into<br>
which they find themselves.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4258.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="726877662" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4258" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4258/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4258">#4258</a>.</p>

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Addressed in #4317.

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Proposing to do nothing.  The only comment that raises concerns (2) is not unique to QUIC, but a pre-existing concern with TLS as well.

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<p>Proposing to do nothing.  The only comment that raises concerns (2) is not unique to QUIC, but a pre-existing concern with TLS as well.</p>

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H2 just says malformed is treated as PROTOCOL_ERROR. So H3 is providing parity.

There might be an argument for more fidelity but I'm not convinced it would help much. It could require more contortions in the text - do you have different error for different types of malformed?



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<p>H2 just says malformed is treated as PROTOCOL_ERROR. So H3 is providing parity.</p>
<p>There might be an argument for more fidelity but I'm not convinced it would help much. It could require more contortions in the text - do you have different error for different types of malformed?</p>

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Internally, we use a different error code.  Of course, all internal error codes map to the same code for sending in RESET_STREAM/CONNECTION_CLOSE.

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<p>Internally, we use a different error code.  Of course, all internal error codes map to the same code for sending in RESET_STREAM/CONNECTION_CLOSE.</p>

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One nit, but LGTM. Thanks for working through this patiently, @martinthomson 

> @@ -2311,7 +2311,10 @@ When an endpoint abandons path validation, it determines that the path is
 unusable.  This does not necessarily imply a failure of the connection -
 endpoints can continue sending packets over other paths as appropriate.  If no
 paths are available, an endpoint can wait for a new path to become available or
-close the connection.
+close the connection.  An endpoint that has no valid network path to its peer
+MAY signal this using the NO_VIABLE_PATH connection error, noting that this is
+only possible if the network path exists but does not support the required
+MTU {{datagram-size}}.

```suggestion
MTU ({{datagram-size}}).
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> Server deployments are far less likely to made without due consideration to the environment into which they find themselves.

... unless you start considering p2p deployments.

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Fair point; though I would suggest that p2p doesn't need version negotiation.  Once you have to do NAT traversal, you can also ensure that you don't have to ever send Version Negotiation.

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<p>Fair point; though I would suggest that p2p doesn't need version negotiation.  Once you have to do NAT traversal, you can also ensure that you don't have to ever send Version Negotiation.</p>

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I don't think that works in the general case. A node won't know if it's behind a NAT when it's started (it will learn after a while of interacting with other nodes). And even if you solve that problem, you'll need to do some extra work to communicate QUIC versions during hole punching.

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<p>I don't think that works in the general case. A node won't know if it's behind a NAT when it's started (it will learn after a while of interacting with other nodes). And even if you solve that problem, you'll need to do some extra work to communicate QUIC versions during hole punching.</p>

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@marten-seemann, trying to move discussion here.

You suggest that in a p2p deployment, the ability to control deployment of "server" instances is limited.

My response is that *in general* you need some sort of signaling between peers to communicate addresses for p2p.  NAT traversal generally requires it, and - if nothing else - you usually need to ship IP addresses for peers around.  Given that, I think that it is reasonable to include - in that signaling - information about supported protocols such that you should never need to generate a QUIC Version Negotiation in that context.

Maybe you don't care for that, but I think that it is probably better than accepting the exposure.

If you have an idea for how we might avoid this particular sort of request forgery without that, then I'm open to suggestions.  Right now, the proposal is that servers accept the risk and manage it.  But if there is a protocol change that would improve the situation, that might be better.  Assuming that it is minimally disruptive, of course.

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<p>You suggest that in a p2p deployment, the ability to control deployment of "server" instances is limited.</p>
<p>My response is that <em>in general</em> you need some sort of signaling between peers to communicate addresses for p2p.  NAT traversal generally requires it, and - if nothing else - you usually need to ship IP addresses for peers around.  Given that, I think that it is reasonable to include - in that signaling - information about supported protocols such that you should never need to generate a QUIC Version Negotiation in that context.</p>
<p>Maybe you don't care for that, but I think that it is probably better than accepting the exposure.</p>
<p>If you have an idea for how we might avoid this particular sort of request forgery without that, then I'm open to suggestions.  Right now, the proposal is that servers accept the risk and manage it.  But if there is a protocol change that would improve the situation, that might be better.  Assuming that it is minimally disruptive, of course.</p>

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 In all three cases, the attacker can cause its peer to send datagrams to a

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> My response is that in general you need some sort of signaling between peers to communicate addresses for p2p. NAT traversal generally requires it, and - if nothing else - you usually need to ship IP addresses for peers around.

This independent of NAT traversal then. You'd also need to advertise addresses in a world where NATs wouldn't exist, and you could include QUIC version information in those address advertisements.

This still leaves the Bootstrap nodes susceptible to this attack (assuming you only hard-code a list of IP:ports without QUIC version information), but maybe that's ok, since you typically control those nodes yourself, or at least you can ask people running those nodes to take precautionary steps.

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<p>This independent of NAT traversal then. You'd also need to advertise addresses in a world where NATs wouldn't exist, and you could include QUIC version information in those address advertisements.</p>
<p>This still leaves the Bootstrap nodes susceptible to this attack (assuming you only hard-code a list of IP:ports without QUIC version information), but maybe that's ok, since you typically control those nodes yourself, or at least you can ask people running those nodes to take precautionary steps.</p>

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On 5 Nov 2020, at 23:04, Martin Thomson <notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com>> wrote:



We have been successful in recovering the port number that this protocol uses. So we have a clear example of where reclamation was successful and useful.

That was made much harder due to a lack of an understanding about reclamation. Being clear up front should help avoid problems.

Proposing no action here.


The degree of difficulty depends on the scale of heterogeneous implementations and the scale of deployment.

Leave the text in if you wish, we will see what happens.

In MPLS we wanted to reclaim a reserved label. There are only 16 of them and so they are valuable. We had one that was barely deployed and was in disuse that we wanted to repurpose., Although we tried hard we were unable to reclaim it.

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We have been successful in recovering the port number that this protocol uses. So we have a clear example of where reclamation was successful and useful.<br>
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In MPLS we wanted to reclaim a reserved label. There are only 16 of them and so they are valuable. We had one that was barely deployed and was in disuse that we wanted to repurpose., Although we tried hard we were unable to reclaim it.<br>
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  Branch: refs/heads/array-brackets
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  Commit: 054991156e82aeea5ef6b72a0ef4937c03cc4ed0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/054991156e82aeea5ef6b72a0ef4937c03cc4ed0
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-09-30 (Wed, 30 Sep 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Access loss recovery state in congestion control pseudocode

Otherwise, the RTT estimate will be askew.

Closes #4172.


  Commit: 51204d8032f1a49a8498962fb25c4056740ee466
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51204d8032f1a49a8498962fb25c4056740ee466
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-09-30 (Wed, 30 Sep 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Move key discard to loss recovery section

None of the variables here are congestion control variables, so this is
clearly loss recovery logic that is just misplaced.


  Commit: 4d49737dae5663562f59138ab0942d60b6930cf8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4d49737dae5663562f59138ab0942d60b6930cf8
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-01 (Thu, 01 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Split between sections


  Commit: 530f5fac4c5782d85398451bdebba5fd0a9fe7d7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/530f5fac4c5782d85398451bdebba5fd0a9fe7d7
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-01 (Thu, 01 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Reorder variable descriptions


  Commit: 46f4f1eee24cf4adac511cacad735d139e9ecaeb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/46f4f1eee24cf4adac511cacad735d139e9ecaeb
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-01 (Thu, 01 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Discarded packets, not just discarded


  Commit: 6e1a624b94927916562fda1d840f88760e52072a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6e1a624b94927916562fda1d840f88760e52072a
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-09-30 (Wed, 30 Sep 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4174 from quicwg/onpacketslost-assert

Access loss recovery state in congestion control pseudocode


  Commit: 53017d24099dc747b203a6e3ab96a0e44d3584ac
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/53017d24099dc747b203a6e3ab96a0e44d3584ac
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-09-30 (Wed, 30 Sep 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4173 from quicwg/move-b9

Move key discard to loss recovery section


  Commit: ef94ae1459b3369fb234d36c9cad9c85ec04ee06
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ef94ae1459b3369fb234d36c9cad9c85ec04ee06
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-02 (Fri, 02 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Update AEAD limits for larger packets

The analysis describes conditions where higher limits might be allowed,
and provides a formula in each case that can be used to determine other
limits more readily.

The number of changes I've made here are somewhat frightening.  This is
why I resisted doing this.  This will need careful double-checking.

The actual numbers don't concern me much, it's the changes to the
structure that need to be looked at.  Some of the changes are editorial,
but they still need extra eyes.

Closes #3701.


  Commit: bcd64aae9d5f38b967c71a10344f46b1c3118ff8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bcd64aae9d5f38b967c71a10344f46b1c3118ff8
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-02 (Fri, 02 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix external references


  Commit: 8bf8ea2440d14596746bab3d626fe9fb3923786e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8bf8ea2440d14596746bab3d626fe9fb3923786e
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-07 (Wed, 07 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4180 from quicwg/jri/fixrefs

Fix external references


  Commit: dd53df2b30133917934c9c42844b649035c53db0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/dd53df2b30133917934c9c42844b649035c53db0
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-07 (Wed, 07 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  ECN counts, not ECN


  Commit: a7805181a86c31388df93f133463f8d1baf42bbd
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a7805181a86c31388df93f133463f8d1baf42bbd
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-07 (Wed, 07 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  can use pipeACK


  Commit: 22c2633cb2f0633c38aacc9f83ec2d1a22d0cdae
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/22c2633cb2f0633c38aacc9f83ec2d1a22d0cdae
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-07 (Wed, 07 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  how disable


  Commit: b23015966fa689c3d75432d0f3cb778bb2c4b68d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b23015966fa689c3d75432d0f3cb778bb2c4b68d
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-07 (Wed, 07 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: 0b7b8b883cc7800e3e783638539dfdf0cef9aba5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0b7b8b883cc7800e3e783638539dfdf0cef9aba5
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-07 (Wed, 07 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4185 from quicwg/jri/ecn

Congestion control actions are on ECN-CE counts, not on ECN-CE markings


  Commit: 9fc4a11047ea51cec8555b07d4942f2985461695
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9fc4a11047ea51cec8555b07d4942f2985461695
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-08 (Thu, 08 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md

  Log Message:
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  add text about CID lengths to the invariants


  Commit: ec1741271763e767181e63e1f9aa1e5034be63bf
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ec1741271763e767181e63e1f9aa1e5034be63bf
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-08 (Thu, 08 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  clarify that future QUIC versions might have different CID length requirements


  Commit: 6e76817342368a2da09ab0d0dd960d550cb7a78c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6e76817342368a2da09ab0d0dd960d550cb7a78c
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-08 (Thu, 08 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  server sends full-size datagrams until the path is validated


  Commit: 1214c15bdd7a8658856cca438d8c73a662dc9049
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1214c15bdd7a8658856cca438d8c73a662dc9049
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-08 (Thu, 08 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: 78500d16536f14fd24492707d51916395270947a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/78500d16536f14fd24492707d51916395270947a
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-08 (Thu, 08 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: d83bcb90127ef86d9af320d37e9a8c27c0050714
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d83bcb90127ef86d9af320d37e9a8c27c0050714
  Author: Luca Niccolini <lniccolini@fb.com>
  Date:   2020-10-08 (Thu, 08 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Fix contributor last name (#4184)

I am extremely grateful for appearing in this list! 
just a minor fix


  Commit: 551184a2b3b9cd9069092eeadb8a7c4489a7bb4e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/551184a2b3b9cd9069092eeadb8a7c4489a7bb4e
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-09 (Fri, 09 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  Grammaaaaaa!


  Commit: 5727b871212a92c82bd6d6563341eaf9ad8e5507
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5727b871212a92c82bd6d6563341eaf9ad8e5507
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-09 (Fri, 09 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 56569b9dcce3788d24b3dfc6576603f6ffca1da9
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/56569b9dcce3788d24b3dfc6576603f6ffca1da9
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-09 (Fri, 09 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  wordwrap


  Commit: cf53d55541b4ed7ea3230ac116ac9a9489daf75f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/cf53d55541b4ed7ea3230ac116ac9a9489daf75f
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-08 (Thu, 08 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Pseudo code is code component


  Commit: e77e6ee4037a16f3871d73d115dcd4d9da7ffc22
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e77e6ee4037a16f3871d73d115dcd4d9da7ffc22
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-08 (Thu, 08 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  better?


  Commit: 8ec73e164c39a30c5ed7f803c34add8af989ad08
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8ec73e164c39a30c5ed7f803c34add8af989ad08
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-09 (Fri, 09 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  update back reference to cover padding


  Commit: 8ac0c4276325c37afbfa57cfbb0d3e39abe40f71
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8ac0c4276325c37afbfa57cfbb0d3e39abe40f71
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-08 (Thu, 08 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Apply suggestions from code review

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: 97b8798895b524bf8c8f1f35ae06d8386f938bed
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/97b8798895b524bf8c8f1f35ae06d8386f938bed
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-09 (Fri, 09 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  reduce the recommendation of padding to Initial packets only; restrict the number of packets being sent pre-PTO


  Commit: bd089c925ad5928c5448e45e04b3d40ef848078d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bd089c925ad5928c5448e45e04b3d40ef848078d
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-09 (Fri, 09 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Drop "unless the client address is validated", merging the requirements.

As @marten-seemann points out, a server might have a validated path with MTU less
than 1200 bytes when it uses Retry.


  Commit: 271010c6d38cbb015aebf41ccf391d64b09e5b1d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/271010c6d38cbb015aebf41ccf391d64b09e5b1d
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-09 (Fri, 09 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: a3351beeb2561209fb2114c117e3dcae6288a755
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a3351beeb2561209fb2114c117e3dcae6288a755
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-09 (Fri, 09 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: 05cc5d9af4c53185585ae682b8d0f12673a2ac53
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/05cc5d9af4c53185585ae682b8d0f12673a2ac53
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-09 (Fri, 09 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  use @martinthomson's suggestion for the invariants


  Commit: 3fec711e7223249e4e7934deef4b8e0974cba8cd
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3fec711e7223249e4e7934deef4b8e0974cba8cd
  Author: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-09 (Fri, 09 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  apply @martinthompson's and @MikeBishop's suggestions


  Commit: c24e60714a4fb8170284be9f33c94971e6b7fb85
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c24e60714a4fb8170284be9f33c94971e6b7fb85
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-09 (Fri, 09 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>


  Commit: 51ebab59453aae1bd8fd45a3e160abe6859ff7a3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/51ebab59453aae1bd8fd45a3e160abe6859ff7a3
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-09 (Fri, 09 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  pseudocode segments


  Commit: d9ac648d191eef7c6596ccaf12728758a7eafa66
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d9ac648d191eef7c6596ccaf12728758a7eafa66
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-12 (Mon, 12 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Clarify that pipeACK is an example


  Commit: e832f5d211e75eecf97b114b005e88adcfd705a2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e832f5d211e75eecf97b114b005e88adcfd705a2
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-12 (Mon, 12 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Co-authored-by: mirjak <mirja.kuehlewind@ericsson.com>


  Commit: 7bc0c7f579ebc467bd684833253d2167c61bd41d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7bc0c7f579ebc467bd684833253d2167c61bd41d
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-12 (Mon, 12 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Co-authored-by: mirjak <mirja.kuehlewind@ericsson.com>


  Commit: 606b7d2100bc88e5c2544caa3791ce3d4df2e7a1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/606b7d2100bc88e5c2544caa3791ce3d4df2e7a1
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-12 (Mon, 12 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Remove paragraph per mirja's suggestion


  Commit: f61b2d0f2efaf066e67045775916ddbafdf564b4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f61b2d0f2efaf066e67045775916ddbafdf564b4
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-12 (Mon, 12 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Change references to 3168 to be normative

I'm not sure if all of them need to be normative or not?


  Commit: 8f0a34a1286443a197f618bd8358a12719bd3098
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8f0a34a1286443a197f618bd8358a12719bd3098
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-12 (Mon, 12 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4189 from quicwg/jri/license

Pseudo code is code component


  Commit: 6ed1fccb5a1b5807ae5ac23e9a6764636e2c871b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6ed1fccb5a1b5807ae5ac23e9a6764636e2c871b
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-13 (Tue, 13 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4190 from quicwg/ianswett-pipeack-example

Remove mention of pipeACK


  Commit: d64bfcdd4aff399219736541484bd0109b3e88c7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d64bfcdd4aff399219736541484bd0109b3e88c7
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Clear up confusion about label encoding

This was, I think clear, but the use of HKDF-Expand-Label and the
encoding of labels into octets could be even more explicit.

Closes #4197.


  Commit: a7ba58eed37de6c2bad105a6e364236310800a94
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a7ba58eed37de6c2bad105a6e364236310800a94
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Link between header protection usage and definition

This could have been more explicit, so now it is.  Doubly so.

Closes #4198.


  Commit: 52c5f4f41bb1a1128af8f52398224cd2c9f83e45
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/52c5f4f41bb1a1128af8f52398224cd2c9f83e45
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Prohibit using old keys for sending

In this context, "newer" was confusing as the code permits the creation
of the next set of packet protection keys when switching over.  As the
goal of the text was to ensure that old keys not be used, using that
formulation avoids any confusion that might be caused from not having a
reference against which to decide which is "newer".

Closes #4199.


  Commit: 0410b6055abae4e98292593fc0fd1ba04bfc0bb7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0410b6055abae4e98292593fc0fd1ba04bfc0bb7
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  when to pad is independent from path validation


  Commit: 6e0fe53d45021108f4f562225fab0647bf5456de
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6e0fe53d45021108f4f562225fab0647bf5456de
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  at most once is likely enough


  Commit: 681c02ed7bb3bb14a1c0fc3f4ae6ea91be466b70
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/681c02ed7bb3bb14a1c0fc3f4ae6ea91be466b70
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: 9a4069ceef7cce9a41e2ae743fc33e298b62b857
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9a4069ceef7cce9a41e2ae743fc33e298b62b857
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  CONNECTION_CLOSE isn't ack-eliciting

Somehow, I continue to forget this (see #3097), so the table has been
wrong since the special annotations were added.


  Commit: 0e46958bbb120f56c8e88454fd2b6553f1a714a4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0e46958bbb120f56c8e88454fd2b6553f1a714a4
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Describe TLS properties more precisely


  Commit: 2ab63352ee5acaf6bf6d7827a7055d32cf5f0acb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2ab63352ee5acaf6bf6d7827a7055d32cf5f0acb
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Just describe 0-RTT (and its limitations)


  Commit: baeefed4af92420b4d088ccb9f75b9e9348d91c4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/baeefed4af92420b4d088ccb9f75b9e9348d91c4
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  DCID is 0..20 and clarify...

... that after Retry the use of the new Destination Connection ID does
not provide address validation (this was previously obtusely stated).

Note that this critically says that a Destination Connection ID of any
length is not sufficient to prove that the server got the packet.
This is because the client doesn't know how hard the value is to guess,
even if the value is 8 byte or more long and might appear to contain
sufficient entropy (it could be a deterministic function of the client
address, for example).


  Commit: 34ad87496a13ddc545917346096ed24f420c99a6
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  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  servers MUST pad Initial packets carrying CRYPTO frames


  Commit: c30347b1103d89f116f48f7b8d3b04aeae7828d0
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  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  wordwrap


  Commit: 4700b16db2925e40c014a1bfe5aa9a3d4db8c6df
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4700b16db2925e40c014a1bfe5aa9a3d4db8c6df
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Magnus comments


  Commit: a3f807b922415db5a45a87f6a07acf4dd52f24aa
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a3f807b922415db5a45a87f6a07acf4dd52f24aa
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  lint


  Commit: 67e49f85b8403ab8cd78f6cd985b78aa08bd9a9f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/67e49f85b8403ab8cd78f6cd985b78aa08bd9a9f
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  pad Initial with CRYPTO frames -> pad ack-eliciting Initial


  Commit: d42f4554a11a485f1dbba6cfed3ee95f084c0e06
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d42f4554a11a485f1dbba6cfed3ee95f084c0e06
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Datagram size, not packet size


  Commit: fd1456a907725096b1960a8e4ab9666271740ef8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fd1456a907725096b1960a8e4ab9666271740ef8
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Tradeoffs of persistent congestion threshold


  Commit: d8816f9542ebe30fabf46bb573240f03f01adbe7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d8816f9542ebe30fabf46bb573240f03f01adbe7
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Apply suggestions from code review

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: ad6d533a9d9dca978882ca54fcf7d25707a86067
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ad6d533a9d9dca978882ca54fcf7d25707a86067
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  review comments


  Commit: d6fb59baa5ad2b72854fc9f1ccb6619081a0099c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d6fb59baa5ad2b72854fc9f1ccb6619081a0099c
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Apply suggestions from code review

Co-authored-by: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>


  Commit: 609e3521d5372a7fd4418e9e1c2da401faf7ca26
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  rework text


  Commit: 3518d540808164672fef304f85585488c5e176a0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3518d540808164672fef304f85585488c5e176a0
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  editorial


  Commit: a51ad561b1d5c08274a4e8a1ac14304845c74748
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a51ad561b1d5c08274a4e8a1ac14304845c74748
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  @martinthomson's suggestion with tweaks


  Commit: 09b3e0ad27b56aa0f4c68dd14e1bd50b6e22a037
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/09b3e0ad27b56aa0f4c68dd14e1bd50b6e22a037
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  lint


  Commit: 1bb33b1e11f25c783ab23c945a277968df4ecd99
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1bb33b1e11f25c783ab23c945a277968df4ecd99
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 3f875caf7239cb071601ea46939f545b6687a5a8
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  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: e3a596f2eb224e0fa1cbcd5865f4a4a70b7dbe3d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e3a596f2eb224e0fa1cbcd5865f4a4a70b7dbe3d
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  revert changes to the address validation section, as server-side requirements are unrelated


  Commit: c550cb4399b41241f7394d8a2d5728fb87b9f72b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c550cb4399b41241f7394d8a2d5728fb87b9f72b
  Author: janaiyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  editorial


  Commit: adbe600fae62a5aaac76876a634baf2c00575c04
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/adbe600fae62a5aaac76876a634baf2c00575c04
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  wordwrap


  Commit: fb71e7ad639eba345fb98d95c0f0d1680e7f7de4
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fb71e7ad639eba345fb98d95c0f0d1680e7f7de4
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-14 (Wed, 14 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Fix structural and reference issues


  Commit: 8f5dff7dddbf7936c4ef3f6934d997fb8f1a216a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8f5dff7dddbf7936c4ef3f6934d997fb8f1a216a
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


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  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: 5e3fd9e88b3de174ec858e7040056c5759d1730e
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  Excess ack_delay could be non-compiance

Fixes #4191


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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  Commit: 93e1c550f4c4477790928204a1838421e8ac96ed
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


  Commit: be63e0e5f99fa528e695dc6f08c19f4c5bf3a0aa
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  Don't reset pto backoff for Initial ACKs

Fixes #4200


  Commit: ce7b16180676a31d72ea3da124adca730e3aeba4
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  Don't refer to the Time Threshold Loss Detection Timer

That term doesn't appear above, so don't use it in the PTO section.

Fixes #4193


  Commit: 87df3f9810d89a56be513ea39cc058fc449930a7
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  Call out h3 in more places (#4211)


  Commit: 951039df1b25f27be3d291631ba0d2fd3dd2d820
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  RFC8164 is exemplary (#4223)


  Commit: f9869890fdc959aaf7d31766fb89a5a90a040b72
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  Apply suggestions from code review

Co-authored-by: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>


  Commit: e1b3e900c380a51a18975cc347940acc1207428a
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  reference


  Commit: 02eb08c96ea363e898f3cbefc3b857fe84ce6598
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  review


  Commit: d092a1776dee09722b846f750fc9108a865cabb7
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4213 from quicwg/jri/editorial

Editorial fixes for recovery


  Commit: 6c64baa2d755549a5828d44d4d2cfb361abf8971
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Co-authored-by: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>


  Commit: e6c489be4924786ebeea247a0b6a6d195f299ea1
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  format


  Commit: 5216eb1620ec15418ed333cbd856ef5afa1635c1
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  slight moving of text


  Commit: 3a9655ec876f187a73ff049ccec95663adb4f10b
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4215 from quicwg/jri/congestion-threshold

Tradeoffs in the persistent congestion threshold


  Commit: 028dedfe1a933a9f1bdec8063c3cb23449c9121a
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4220 from quicwg/ianswett-dont-reset-pto-backoff

Don't reset pto backoff for Initial ACKs


  Commit: 59ac29d452680313fe6663f9f2b96f3c130a9adf
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4214 from quicwg/jri/max-packet-size

Datagram size, not packet size


  Commit: e1a08aa24ae467039183842d0c71013ef2e369b6
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: e906bb629f1bbaaef9c11f72bc5405c258efc7c7
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  Reflow


  Commit: 53a17e37ffaff565ea7153fd8da32fb40bf7be9f
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #4203 from quicwg/close-is-not-ack-eliciting

CONNECTION_CLOSE isn't ack-eliciting


  Commit: 1e6e346a6058118f93f5e709c8c5c04523a66d57
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4218 from quicwg/ianswett-noncompliant-acks

Excess ack_delay could be non-compiance


  Commit: cb51821d0db98da09838879f586aa29e80b0b172
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  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 5280b951376d486bc41a322e5f9ef25391542c5b
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Code review tweaks

wrapping needed...

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: feff7323e85389f3d25776b59617f0a8ef31e4cf
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Wrap


  Commit: bf5c397df589a17b35f1ae9d505564df47a8718a
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4175 from quicwg/large-packet-limits

Update AEAD limits for larger packets


  Commit: c7092bc1842b3dc3c03c263713aa9488aa95c8ad
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Remove invariants text


  Commit: 59dc78803010b685869f850c4c49552d847ad625
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Merge branch 'cid-len-vn'


  Commit: f226d885730f64ed6cd91f5bf1088e88e0899a69
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Target the rule to connection IDs, not packets


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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4188 from kazuho/kazuho/server-packet-size

Server SHOULD send full-sized datagrams until the path is validated


  Commit: 7d7a1caa00d61da3a76e2918bf401c96cf293b26
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  hyphenate your bites

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: d7e32312900bbb95ae2ede27223a197db2bff828
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4201 from quicwg/hkdf-label

Clear up confusion about label encoding


  Commit: 4a70f1fbc6986e9350eab19eab7e9dd1670e8ff9
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4202 from quicwg/mask-application

Link between header protection usage and definition


  Commit: 9811e96cf6e4604bd5ae583824c4ccbacfbe4b84
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  so...

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 9d1a64156718a17cd9cfd74b3b8b4a64ef761445
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4205 from quicwg/tls-magnus-nits

Magnus' TLS nits


  Commit: f250e5ee626c717adcda05067e27cf2eb688d71f
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Extra words


  Commit: 3a56ee49f91a803ae694bf177b8a1d4576254b8b
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-15 (Thu, 15 Oct 2020)

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  datagram not packet


  Commit: de6a61c9e4add42824b6e93396b03cbeffe9055a
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4225 from quicwg/jri/datagram

Minor editorial: datagram not packet


  Commit: a563626a1f409ce3a41994aa20a020793ef86aa1
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4224 from quicwg/not-older-keys

Prohibit using old keys for sending


  Commit: c904daf2c14d46638e1ea0669fbb821cedac0132
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Pad when validating addresses

This isn't obvious, but if you are validating an address, you are also
validating the path to that address.  If you don't pad these packets,
then you don't know that the path supports a reasonable PMTU.

Require padding of datagrams that carry packets that carry
PATH_CHALLENGE.  This neatly solves the problem.

Closes #4216.


  Commit: d21c32b5c77bf303553a0c2aa6c55ae56b8bb6d0
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  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  A big caveat


  Commit: 2686b0aeb0cf854f7f3664c0cf5940bc5e5a47b2
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Datagrams, not packets

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: b9bfce85e043a3ca7de712433415acb8eaf71d9f
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Revert automated formatting of tables, wrap

Visual Studio code might need to be fired, though it's possible that
this change is a good one.


  Commit: 2b07699b6d03f22f616b031b13b7d317917b9a91
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  Author: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  update refs for -12 of http core drafts (#4182)

* update refs for -12 of http core drafts

* Apply suggestions from code review

* Rewrap

Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>


  Commit: a33d2ec24a45afef92a0f04aeec03732e6d2049c
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  What's an HTTP/3 connection? (#4212)

* What's an HTTP/3 connection?

* Say 'HTTP/3' a whole lot more

* Apply suggestions from code review

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: a5d1222f710b2cf0b1cd0a4b07585f1d1efe37b7
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  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: 37e5917ffe14ded49cf806f84a4e90e0f2b0339c
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  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: 6d453f70fce302e3dceb6ed19995dd9f687bcb8f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6d453f70fce302e3dceb6ed19995dd9f687bcb8f
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md


  Commit: 0c02a859c4781e72e3409fec60f11f7b860e63e7
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0c02a859c4781e72e3409fec60f11f7b860e63e7
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-16 (Fri, 16 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Change controller is IETF (#4236)


  Commit: c2b85a533f5c16a2d04ba36362c21cd7c70c3df6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c2b85a533f5c16a2d04ba36362c21cd7c70c3df6
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-17 (Sat, 17 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  IANA: split change controller and contact

At @gloinul's suggestion this adds a "change controller" field to
registries and splits between a change controller (IETF) and contact
(QUIC WG).

Closes #4230.


  Commit: 5265a6c6c66f3e08b486fe562f1fe9d0ebdbc8de
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5265a6c6c66f3e08b486fe562f1fe9d0ebdbc8de
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-17 (Sat, 17 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Apply the same split to HTTP


  Commit: b3ce9e647ba7e0344f852662c200c161a5030537
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b3ce9e647ba7e0344f852662c200c161a5030537
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-19 (Mon, 19 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Pad PATH_RESPONSE too


  Commit: 6890ba562653f39d58620b713b59eef6929e5de1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6890ba562653f39d58620b713b59eef6929e5de1
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-18 (Sun, 18 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Nits from AD review (#4237)

* Nits from AD review; fixes #4232

* Update draft-ietf-quic-http.md

Co-authored-by: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>

Co-authored-by: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>


  Commit: 5cde363a20ba1a5cc32a1e2855845fa10c8bf82c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5cde363a20ba1a5cc32a1e2855845fa10c8bf82c
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-18 (Sun, 18 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  First, CANCEL_PUSH; then RESET_STREAM if appropriate (#4234)

* First, CANCEL_PUSH; then RESET_STREAM if appropriate

* Correspondence is unappreciated

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: 663465c6c3679870ac476964ce79adbdd7a73d08
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/663465c6c3679870ac476964ce79adbdd7a73d08
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-19 (Mon, 19 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Tweaks

Co-authored-by: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>


  Commit: 80cbb76dcb5f1873a00047ed147282682ab53df3
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/80cbb76dcb5f1873a00047ed147282682ab53df3
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-19 (Mon, 19 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Wrap; make the other a SHOULD too


  Commit: 2bc8d2fe3ff48abd73bfab4b8bf1b46892412686
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2bc8d2fe3ff48abd73bfab4b8bf1b46892412686
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-19 (Mon, 19 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4239 from quicwg/change-controller-split

IANA: split change controller and contact


  Commit: d8163610d3d18aa713b40beac1febe5675eaacd8
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d8163610d3d18aa713b40beac1febe5675eaacd8
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-19 (Mon, 19 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Clarify reserved frame streams (#4235)

* Clarify reserved frame streams

* Update draft-ietf-quic-http.md

Co-authored-by: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>

Co-authored-by: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>


  Commit: 7217ca79908fd38fc8e98584d6526d7f8a7287f6
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7217ca79908fd38fc8e98584d6526d7f8a7287f6
  Author: Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-19 (Mon, 19 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Pseudo-headers can be negotiated (#4248)

* Pseudo-headers can be negotiated

Taken from @MikeBishop's suggestion on the list

* Wrapping

Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>


  Commit: b34a8d5d163f83beb0c5f8f32a9d6290d8c3b74a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b34a8d5d163f83beb0c5f8f32a9d6290d8c3b74a
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-19 (Mon, 19 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md

  Log Message:
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  More precision in defining string literals (#4249)

* More precision in defining string literals

* Update draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md

wordsmithing

Co-authored-by: afrind <afrind@users.noreply.github.com>


  Commit: 9b053f9788580c076babc60b5748df6b02c7c2e9
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9b053f9788580c076babc60b5748df6b02c7c2e9
  Author: Lars Eggert <200328+larseggert@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-19 (Mon, 19 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md

  Log Message:
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  Refer to Section 5.4 and not just Section 5 (#4247)

* Refer to Section 5.4 and not just Section 5

* and Section 5.6

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 2f79b5aed8455380e9c7abb63beba809738d5b0e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2f79b5aed8455380e9c7abb63beba809738d5b0e
  Author: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>
  Date:   2020-10-19 (Mon, 19 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md

  Log Message:
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  Make 2360 normative


  Commit: abde090670ad22def944702d63ecde09600bd88b
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/abde090670ad22def944702d63ecde09600bd88b
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Peer path validation...


  Commit: 6d59f185cbc68fa85c157f918d7e53cb591a81cb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6d59f185cbc68fa85c157f918d7e53cb591a81cb
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  endpoint MAY discard, MUST NOT close when receiving a datagram that does not meet the padding requirements


  Commit: a364f7d638459ca0c3b0b35fb6a57aecfc4f733d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a364f7d638459ca0c3b0b35fb6a57aecfc4f733d
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  add ref


  Commit: 1e95cb2f928835f5f932ea3ebdce2784a9b1fd0c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/1e95cb2f928835f5f932ea3ebdce2784a9b1fd0c
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  MUST

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 3fce52c3e6633f9b231c76bc8b88fecaf6842461
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3fce52c3e6633f9b231c76bc8b88fecaf6842461
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: 49585a13f953f35d08b53e46d2f272b34e5efb18
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/49585a13f953f35d08b53e46d2f272b34e5efb18
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: db0065748b54228ac2ca98401331f936c1e90919
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/db0065748b54228ac2ca98401331f936c1e90919
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: 353747da54f98792413e2b913f2859251ab13122
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/353747da54f98792413e2b913f2859251ab13122
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  drop reference to packet coalescing, as suggested by @martinthomson


  Commit: 7c59397e39dc005bcf53be7208b73cbaee05fc06
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7c59397e39dc005bcf53be7208b73cbaee05fc06
  Author: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4222 from quicwg/ianswett-no-loss-detection-timer

Don't refer to the Time Threshold Loss Detection Timer


  Commit: 219e12ec25ae408814c203ec934493f881575c96
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/219e12ec25ae408814c203ec934493f881575c96
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Talk about padding a little more (#4233)


  Commit: 5c616217269f59a7824b11ee1845528bc1f0b37f
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5c616217269f59a7824b11ee1845528bc1f0b37f
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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  Explain and discourage HTTP/2 error code overlap (#4251)

* Explain and discourage HTTP/2 error code overlap

This provides guidance to experts about avoiding overlap of error codes
with HTTP/2 and explains why the codes in the document are where they
are.

Closes #4231.

* ~E

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: f4e391a879586cb26d6f571558efa6d3a9fdade2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f4e391a879586cb26d6f571558efa6d3a9fdade2
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-21 (Wed, 21 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  minimumumum

Co-authored-by: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>


  Commit: db22ecd94dc26268a8c937fd0b149a4c8927a92a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/db22ecd94dc26268a8c937fd0b149a4c8927a92a
  Author: Alan Frindell <afrind@fb.com>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md

  Log Message:
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  [qpack] Update Example B4

Explain why there is no Insert Count Increment sent from the Decoder to the Encoder in this example.  When I drafted the example, I probably just missed it, but it seems like a good opportunity to explore the case where the encoder stream data is delayed.

Fixes #4245


  Commit: bbb245b5a3ed4567f052caa413e7c4cfc296d91a
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bbb245b5a3ed4567f052caa413e7c4cfc296d91a
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md


  Commit: 8a665eb37d894565fd7a9365dd7bd53fe9c21e62
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8a665eb37d894565fd7a9365dd7bd53fe9c21e62
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4254 from kazuho/kazuho/datagram-padding-is-unenforceable

receivers cannot enforce datagram padding (though they may drop)


  Commit: 739a6cc60f2dda200181be8383691f21f0e9868e
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/739a6cc60f2dda200181be8383691f21f0e9868e
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4241 from quicwg/pad-path-validation

Pad path validation in both directions


  Commit: 2ebdfd53a648458539dda4d4e8b207546e135699
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2ebdfd53a648458539dda4d4e8b207546e135699
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-21 (Wed, 21 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M protection-samples.js

  Log Message:
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  Update vectors for -32


  Commit: a25b7b0e18ad0c2c0d262fddceeb0bdbb2db53d0
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a25b7b0e18ad0c2c0d262fddceeb0bdbb2db53d0
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-21 (Wed, 21 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Changelogs for -32


  Commit: 6768f6f2a6beaf0ca02a984b5c9b7a840d55a7d2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6768f6f2a6beaf0ca02a984b5c9b7a840d55a7d2
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-21 (Wed, 21 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

  Log Message:
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  Recovery had changes


  Commit: feee48ebfe0c3be46a938879f3f503860d0c24a1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/feee48ebfe0c3be46a938879f3f503860d0c24a1
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-21 (Wed, 21 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M protection-samples.js

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4255 from quicwg/vectors-32

Update vectors for -32


  Commit: 56c35e6d8ee9b48c83ceaddd295e412db98de9a5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/56c35e6d8ee9b48c83ceaddd295e412db98de9a5
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-20 (Tue, 20 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4256 from quicwg/changelog-32

Changelogs for -32


  Commit: 2719b297f7f12368ec12c8fdbf70aba6a2c2eb93
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2719b297f7f12368ec12c8fdbf70aba6a2c2eb93
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-28 (Wed, 28 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Stop using initial timeout

Address validation can use 3*PTO, just taking the maximum of the old and
new path PTO.  The idea of initial timeout is easily replaced in
recovery by instead describing the effect on the PTO.  The net effect is
the same, except that new paths often have to include the maximum ACK
delay, which this doesn't incorporate.

Closes #4261.
Closes #4262.


  Commit: ec9355809d26c1a62fcf6c6b565c0e477d69a49d
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ec9355809d26c1a62fcf6c6b565c0e477d69a49d
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-28 (Wed, 28 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Remove formula with confusing variables


  Commit: d4ea499f0202be3971fc1267c9657fdd5f0689e1
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d4ea499f0202be3971fc1267c9657fdd5f0689e1
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Explain what the bitfield references mean

Closes #4269.


  Commit: 58adefa71cb70e4223735c08cab0c2702fffd911
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/58adefa71cb70e4223735c08cab0c2702fffd911
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Maximum datagram size of 1200 is a requirement

On endpoints.

Closes #4271.


  Commit: a356bbba6df96cd0e599b390455819523b539807
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/a356bbba6df96cd0e599b390455819523b539807
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Cite the notation section the first time it is used

Closes #4284.


  Commit: fea54816edf9df6874fda276b00edaac799151c2
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fea54816edf9df6874fda276b00edaac799151c2
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Define stateless reset token

This was a little obtuse; it would benefit from a clearer description of
what the token is and how it is used.

Closes #4285.


  Commit: f4cc0c8191d0667c02827131123343701d3f6a99
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f4cc0c8191d0667c02827131123343701d3f6a99
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Describe inputs to the packet number algorithm

Closes #4297.


  Commit: ac4e79bc704b892db4531095ab39ab8edf2085b5
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ac4e79bc704b892db4531095ab39ab8edf2085b5
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Tweak framing of frames table

Less detail above, but a pointer to what follows.

Closes #4299.


  Commit: 15c0e777b0f352d42527d840136a47266621b218
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/15c0e777b0f352d42527d840136a47266621b218
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Yes, it's bytes

Closes #4303.


  Commit: a2928dffe80a4c6d20e4c43e1e8ee34f8802870a
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

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  Add a definition for "frame"

I struggled with this a little.  Happy to take suggestions.

Closes #4266.


  Commit: 078cb06459f2e7fadad224ba6e400240305b2e15
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  Padding non-HOWTO

We explicitly don't recommend anything for defeating traffic analysis.
We only offer PADDING frames as they are known to be useful in existing
strategies.

Closes #4295.


  Commit: db810bf8459e5d489cf4f4e378b271a62d3cbff2
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  Packet number encoding in appendix, move examples


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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

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  Expand example


  Commit: 63c950d09ec71869ee86fd4d5e007f3be1cac888
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  VarInt decoding pseudocode


  Commit: 818b6c4799888e21636380df48fe3dbb7e7bf675
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Mike's suggestions


  Commit: 7a8dd60dbc9ed05a0ab8f81d1012cf16141b1762
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4308 from quicwg/issue4284

Cite the notation section the first time it is used


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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4309 from quicwg/issue4297

Describe inputs to the packet number algorithm


  Commit: e62d221d9bd9e41e7462e4929d3b42510a0efe26
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

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  is/are potato/tomato

Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>


  Commit: 005c4cda1c96fbe6b6434b079374e37a70f0ceee
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  Glue

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 1725b86feab8c1d2d403af9f549449705e69bd6f
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4307 from quicwg/issue4271

Maximum datagram size of 1200 is a requirement


  Commit: 656f39564b0dde06966853618f15b558ad501f0e
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4311 from quicwg/issue4303

Yes, it's bytes


  Commit: 7b7523e05c9f9ddd71e23465d260b78b112973f5
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Mike's suggestions, tweaked

Co-authored-by: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>


  Commit: da7e6873553f2b97cb0a619387c5cc5f368df2b5
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4312 from quicwg/padding-howto

Padding non-HOWTO


  Commit: a9d9aeb75f339408c1481c0bb5e1e048f16957f6
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

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  initial RTO comparison

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: adbf9a65424c2946fd6fcd845e7563b4703bafb3
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

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  Moer txt

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 02c37e7dcac332a1753a77a3c9b5626def6e3705
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Tweaked suggestion


  Commit: fd537897425a824f8c0e1b103dca4285f3d8ea0b
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4306 from quicwg/issue4269

Explain what the bitfield references mean


  Commit: 5d6285f3c93e068e7faf593efe3a06dcc366b4ea
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

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  polish

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: d56cd1fba2567f036ad903f245339844d0265492
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4310 from quicwg/issue4299

Tweak framing of frames table


  Commit: ee73d33cd6830709438470dfd0af06726297ae6c
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-10-29 (Thu, 29 Oct 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4317 from quicwg/issue4285

Define stateless reset token


  Commit: 9234f63528e54644071a494465b4c96018a55050
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

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  State CS-PRNG requirements

I'm opposed to saying that values from a PRNG shouldn't be exposed.  But
we can at least say that we need a good CS-PRNG to get many of the
security properties claimed by the protocol.

Closes #4314.


  Commit: 64c74e5dfac3eb87fb0068476811feb99eac8e30
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Apply suggestions from code review

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: 3bc25c1ff62913c7982966dcf259319fd4871324
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

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  Less python, more handwaving


  Commit: 75a56bf5d9a03bbdef8ba13b5a8f988d381e045d
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Apply suggestions from code review

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


  Commit: e4213677504e4b326bc5beba0a4a98f78bbc699f
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Add comments


  Commit: 5b60a9a8a0b3da85214e448d590a9fb8b0c48a42
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Lars's comment


  Commit: 5c18ee9353f87f9f70bfcba806ef9699a7752030
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Expand for clarity


  Commit: 29b5c1064e4837ec8d8fe111fc5518f51049250c
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

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  Move spin bit explanation to beginning of section


  Commit: 9a0c2c7f365beba65adab0bd8a608b8dbdaf0350
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

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  Move overview to be first subsection


  Commit: 40644dbc771a37bdb16033579bbca17b467b8f30
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

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  Intro to Security Considerations


  Commit: 1e3dd94cca61c5ef44311e5cb2c5ca8af3d3570c
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-31 (Sat, 31 Oct 2020)

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Co-authored-by: Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net>


  Commit: d844edc09eaa733b142237056ed4a3fecf340e1c
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-10-31 (Sat, 31 Oct 2020)

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  dehyphenate

Co-authored-by: Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net>


  Commit: f913c66aa6a0ac1e74b141e02aed6cbf037dba1d
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-10-30 (Fri, 30 Oct 2020)

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  Martin's suggested intro, tweaked


  Commit: 9608dc4f7ee751fd906876d76992dea6ef03b493
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-01 (Sun, 01 Nov 2020)

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  period

Co-authored-by: ianswett <ianswett@users.noreply.github.com>


  Commit: bea58a02718b81168ef48380799bbf49c21fc3d4
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-02 (Mon, 02 Nov 2020)

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  Commit: afc236efee6672db094c54962ec635a4895e602a
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-02 (Mon, 02 Nov 2020)

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  Establish normative force more directly.

This is right next to the BCP 14 text.


  Commit: 5a506a5202a6b403c78a11b4ddb97fed8aac6b1c
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  Merge pull request #4263 from quicwg/initial-timeout-begone

Stop using initial timeout


  Commit: b26c0a20718b6550eee21dfd5104726c21f5e5a7
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  s/veyed/tained/


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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4313 from quicwg/define-frame

Add a definition for "frame"


  Commit: aef612e889b12a470198aadd0f0836a9a366bef6
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Packets and datagrams and packets

Based on Jana's suggestion on #4313.


  Commit: e2f4433901ab807d1412729d52ad2f830b33d625
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  Date:   2020-11-03 (Tue, 03 Nov 2020)

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  Truncatencode

Co-authored-by: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>


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  Date:   2020-11-03 (Tue, 03 Nov 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4327 from quicwg/packet-datagram-packet

Packets and datagrams and packets


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  Restore the comment in the original text


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  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4315 from quicwg/transport/move-pn-examples

Packet number encoding appendix


  Commit: e476865aad0ae1a949ea29f9fc50932e8651c041
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  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4316 from quicwg/transport/varint_example

VarInt decoding pseudocode


  Commit: dd8320bc88be0fad63f89d176016db35668232f1
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-11-03 (Tue, 03 Nov 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4319 from quicwg/transport/spin-upfront

Move spin bit explanation to beginning of section


  Commit: f2dfa35ac507c58ebf83d391ff0c70c057dba7d8
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-11-03 (Tue, 03 Nov 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4320 from quicwg/transport/security-upfront

Reorder and introduce Security Considerations


  Commit: 7845437e998059b3127ccb241d949ff8e0bc1666
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Log Message:
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  Add pseudocode intro


  Commit: 0b67a36d6270e23aa21f2faf3ccfd379deb10473
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Establish normative force more directly.


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Code components


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State CS-PRNG requirements


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> @@ -1163,6 +1163,11 @@ SHOULD ensure that the pool of connection IDs available to its peer allows the
 peer to use a new connection ID on migration, as the peer will be unable to
 respond if the pool is exhausted.
 
+An endpoint that selects a zero-length connection ID during the handshake
+cannot send a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame.  A zero-length Destination Connection ID
+field is used for all packets sent toward such an endpoint and for all network
+paths.

I think it makes sense to clarify that the scope is for that connection in the second sentence.

```suggestion
paths for the remainder of the connection.
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  Use brackets for empty arrays

The curlies were fine, but we use brackets already for:

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for pn_space in [ Initial, Handshake, ApplicationData ]:
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So this is arguably more consistent.


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  Merge pull request #4337 from quicwg/array-brackets

Use brackets for empty arrays


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Merged #4337 into master.

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@huitema approved this pull request.

I agree that documenting the issue is the best we can do at this stage of the process. Short of ditching version negotiation altogether, but that would mean a long delay in delivering QUIC V1, and I don't think we want to go there.

> +### Request Forgery with Version Negotiation {#vn-spoofing}
+
+Clients that are able to present a spoofed source address on a packet can cause
+a server to send a Version Negotiation packet {{packet-version}} to that
+address.
+
+The absence of size restrictions on the connection ID fields for packets of an
+unknown version increases the amount of data that the client controls from the
+resulting datagram.  The first byte of this packet is not under client control
+and the next four bytes are zero, but the client is able to control up to 512
+bytes starting from the fifth byte.
+
+No specific countermeasures are provided for this attack, though generic
+protections {{forgery-generic}} could apply.  In this case, ingress filtering
+{{?BCP38}} is also effective.
+

I have been thinking about potential defenses, and I could not find something obvious there. Rate limiting does not help much, since this is not a volumetric attack. I think this text is about the best we can do.

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<p>I agree that documenting the issue is the best we can do at this stage of the process. Short of ditching version negotiation altogether, but that would mean a long delay in delivering QUIC V1, and I don't think we want to go there.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4339#discussion_r518825078">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +### Request Forgery with Version Negotiation {#vn-spoofing}
+
+Clients that are able to present a spoofed source address on a packet can cause
+a server to send a Version Negotiation packet {{packet-version}} to that
+address.
+
+The absence of size restrictions on the connection ID fields for packets of an
+unknown version increases the amount of data that the client controls from the
+resulting datagram.  The first byte of this packet is not under client control
+and the next four bytes are zero, but the client is able to control up to 512
+bytes starting from the fifth byte.
+
+No specific countermeasures are provided for this attack, though generic
+protections {{forgery-generic}} could apply.  In this case, ingress filtering
+{{?BCP38}} is also effective.
+
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<p>I have been thinking about potential defenses, and I could not find something obvious there. Rate limiting does not help much, since this is not a volumetric attack. I think this text is about the best we can do.</p>

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I think the issue is that "epoch starts is" looks like either an extra word or subject/verb agreement error.  It's not actually; if you diagram the sentence out, "after the epoch starts" is in a dependent clause and "any packet ... is acknowledged" is correct agreement.

That said, the rewording is easier to read because it doesn't *look* wrong and you don't have to try different possible parsings in your head before you find the one which works.  We've tried to avoid trial decryption; let's avoid it in grammar, too.

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<p>I think the issue is that "epoch starts is" looks like either an extra word or subject/verb agreement error.  It's not actually; if you diagram the sentence out, "after the epoch starts" is in a dependent clause and "any packet ... is acknowledged" is correct agreement.</p>
<p>That said, the rewording is easier to read because it doesn't <em>look</em> wrong and you don't have to try different possible parsings in your head before you find the one which works.  We've tried to avoid trial decryption; let's avoid it in grammar, too.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/recovery/trial_decryption
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  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-06 (Fri, 06 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md

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  Martin's suggestion, tweaked

Co-authored-by:  Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>



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Fixes #4324.

This isn&#39;t critical, but it&#39;s clearer and easier to parse.  All to the good.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4340

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  * Martin&#39;s suggestion, tweaked

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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (14)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4324.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="734818031" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4324" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4324/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4324">#4324</a>.</p>
<p>This isn't critical, but it's clearer and easier to parse.  All to the good.</p>

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  <li>Martin&#39;s suggestion, tweaked</li>
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I'm inclined not to do much, if anything, here.  They all trace back to "malformed," as you note, which leads to GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR.  The instances in which we use GPE are:

- Malformed HTTP messages
- Push whose request headers change across multiple promises
- As a substitute for more specific codes

I wouldn't be opposed to splitting the first two off into a new / two new codes, because that would be consistent with our principle of indicating the general area where the failure occurred.  I would push back on having separate error codes for specific ways the message could be malformed, because that's pretty expansive rabbit hole.

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<p>I'm inclined not to do much, if anything, here.  They all trace back to "malformed," as you note, which leads to GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR.  The instances in which we use GPE are:</p>
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<p>I wouldn't be opposed to splitting the first two off into a new / two new codes, because that would be consistent with our principle of indicating the general area where the failure occurred.  I would push back on having separate error codes for specific ways the message could be malformed, because that's pretty expansive rabbit hole.</p>

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A few suggestions, but this is great!

> @@ -92,9 +92,12 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
-This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  Accompanying
-documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion control and the use of
-TLS for key negotiation.
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+multiplexed streams for delivering ordered application data, flow control,

maybe?
```suggestion
streams for structuring application data, flow control,
```

> @@ -111,22 +114,26 @@ code and issues list for this draft can be found at
 
 # Overview
 
-QUIC is a multiplexed and secure general-purpose transport protocol that
-provides:
+QUIC is a multiplexed and secure general-purpose transport protocol. This

```suggestion
QUIC is a secure general-purpose transport protocol. This
```

>  
-* Stream- and connection-level flow control
-
-* Low-latency connection establishment
-
-* Connection migration and resilience to NAT rebinding
-
-* Authenticated and encrypted header and payload
-
-QUIC establishes a connection, which is a stateful interaction between a client
-and server. The primary purpose of a connection is to support the structured
-exchange of data by an application protocol.
+The QUIC handshake combines negotiation of cryptographic and transport
+parameters. QUIC integrates the TLS {{?TLS13}} handshake, though provides a

```suggestion
parameters. QUIC integrates the TLS ({{?TLS13}}) handshake, although using a
```

>  
-* Stream- and connection-level flow control
-
-* Low-latency connection establishment
-
-* Connection migration and resilience to NAT rebinding
-
-* Authenticated and encrypted header and payload
-
-QUIC establishes a connection, which is a stateful interaction between a client
-and server. The primary purpose of a connection is to support the structured
-exchange of data by an application protocol.
+The QUIC handshake combines negotiation of cryptographic and transport
+parameters. QUIC integrates the TLS {{?TLS13}} handshake, though provides a
+customized scheme for protecting packets. The integration of TLS and QUIC is

Something better than "scheme"? Maybe "framing"?
```suggestion
customized framing for protecting packets. The integration of TLS and QUIC is
```

> -
-* Authenticated and encrypted header and payload
-
-QUIC establishes a connection, which is a stateful interaction between a client
-and server. The primary purpose of a connection is to support the structured
-exchange of data by an application protocol.
+The QUIC handshake combines negotiation of cryptographic and transport
+parameters. QUIC integrates the TLS {{?TLS13}} handshake, though provides a
+customized scheme for protecting packets. The integration of TLS and QUIC is
+described in more detail in {{QUIC-TLS}}. The handshake is structured to permit
+the exchange of application data as soon as possible. This includes an option
+for clients to send data immediately (0-RTT), which might require prior
+communication to enable.
+
+Endpoints communicate in QUIC by exchanging QUIC packets. Most packets contain
+frames, which carry both control information and application data between

```suggestion
frames, which carry both control information and application data between the
```

> @@ -92,9 +92,12 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
-This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  Accompanying
-documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion control and the use of
-TLS for key negotiation.
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+multiplexed streams for delivering ordered application data, flow control,

I don't think "delivering ordered data" is quite right... at best this should be "ordered delivery of application data". But that is a tricky one, since there's no ordering across streams. Hence my suggestion of streams as something that an application uses for structuring data.

Also, I think "multiplexed" is an unnecessary detail for an overview.

> @@ -111,22 +114,26 @@ code and issues list for this draft can be found at
 
 # Overview
 
-QUIC is a multiplexed and secure general-purpose transport protocol that
-provides:
+QUIC is a multiplexed and secure general-purpose transport protocol. This

"multiplexed" is an odd qualifier here.

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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

One question, but otherwise, lgtm.

> +least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the
+client validates the server address.

We don't seem to define "valid packet" anywhere. Do we have a definition?

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<p>One question, but otherwise, lgtm.</p><hr>

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<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the
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  Correctly cite Section 9.5 of -tls

Closes #4333.


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  Merge pull request #4334 from quicwg/9-point-5

Correctly cite Section 9.5 of -tls


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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

couple of minor comments

> @@ -1163,6 +1163,11 @@ SHOULD ensure that the pool of connection IDs available to its peer allows the
 peer to use a new connection ID on migration, as the peer will be unable to
 respond if the pool is exhausted.
 
+An endpoint that selects a zero-length connection ID during the handshake
+cannot send a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame.  A zero-length Destination Connection ID

```suggestion
cannot issue a new connection ID.  A zero-length Destination Connection ID
```

> @@ -1163,6 +1163,11 @@ SHOULD ensure that the pool of connection IDs available to its peer allows the
 peer to use a new connection ID on migration, as the peer will be unable to
 respond if the pool is exhausted.
 
+An endpoint that selects a zero-length connection ID during the handshake
+cannot send a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame.  A zero-length Destination Connection ID
+field is used for all packets sent toward such an endpoint and for all network

```suggestion
field is used in all packets sent toward such an endpoint over any network
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-02 (Mon, 02 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  The AEAD also prevents modification

The description neglected to mention this.  Obviously, the
confidentiality protection (specifically, the lack thereof) is the part
that needs to be highlighted, but we shouldn't neglect the other purpose
of using an AEAD here.


  Commit: 62fc27de75760dfa55002791d734bf0265c8e466
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4338 from quicwg/initial-accidental-modification

The AEAD also prevents modification


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/a39455aa02e6...62fc27de7576


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Loss epoch wording


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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

Ugh. Yeah, this isn't great. I agree that we can lean on servers... but documenting this is super important. This is a pretty big hole... but I think it's ok to leave it as it is in this PR.

Let's leave this open for a while longer to ensure that it gets more visibility, and to see if anyone can come up with any other ideas.



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<p><b>@janaiyengar</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>Ugh. Yeah, this isn't great. I agree that we can lean on servers... but documenting this is super important. This is a pretty big hole... but I think it's ok to leave it as it is in this PR.</p>
<p>Let's leave this open for a while longer to ensure that it gets more visibility, and to see if anyone can come up with any other ideas.</p>

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I agree with @martinthomson. #4329 now clearly that TLS is integrated with QUIC.

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<p>I agree with <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a>. <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="735790821" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4329" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4329/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4329">#4329</a> now clearly that TLS is integrated with QUIC.</p>

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Agreed. It's worth noting that this isn't a protocol document, this is documenting the unchanging aspects of the protocol. Section 1 says "The primary goal of this document is to ensure that it is possible to deploy new versions of QUIC."

Given that, it's reasonable to argue that the security considerations apply to the evolvability of QUIC.

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<p>Agreed. It's worth noting that this isn't a protocol document, this is documenting the unchanging aspects of the protocol. Section 1 says "The primary goal of this document is to ensure that it is possible to deploy new versions of QUIC."</p>
<p>Given that, it's reasonable to argue that the security considerations apply to the evolvability of QUIC.</p>

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I would push back against changes here. This is a matter of what one is used to, but given a moment, any careful reader will figure this out (as Stewart did).

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<p>I would push back against changes here. This is a matter of what one is used to, but given a moment, any careful reader will figure this out (as Stewart did).</p>

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The rationale here is weak enough that it could be considered to have come out of a hat, which is quite fine for this use. If we had chosen a different expression, we would have slightly different transport params.

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<p>The rationale here is weak enough that it could be considered to have come out of a hat, which is quite fine for this use. If we had chosen a different expression, we would have slightly different transport params.</p>

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What @MikeBishop asks.

@StewartBryant : Other target audiences still ought to be careful readers of the document. I hope that those who operate the network don't do it with a casual reading of protocol documents.

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<p>What <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/MikeBishop/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/MikeBishop">@MikeBishop</a> asks.</p>
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I don't think we can come up with a maximum data limit, since:
- packet numbers apply to packets, not to bytes (unlike in TCP)
- each packet is sized based on MTU,
- even theoretically, there are various control frames that need to be sent for protocol operation, which take away from any byte limit that we come up with.

I expect that we can do an approximate maximum (2^62 * MTU = 4.6 * 10^18 * MTU), which will have no practical value to an application.

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<p>I don't think we can come up with a maximum data limit, since:</p>
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<li>packet numbers apply to packets, not to bytes (unlike in TCP)</li>
<li>each packet is sized based on MTU,</li>
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<p>I expect that we can do an approximate maximum (2^62 * MTU = 4.6 * 10^18 * MTU), which will have no practical value to an application.</p>

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I'm marking this as `proposal-ready`. We can switch it back if we decide to do something here.

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  Date:   2020-11-06 (Fri, 06 Nov 2020)

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  Revert "why grease"

This reverts commit 52724b3c5c964e9b0a67612f8de675fb99ad7515.



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Doesn&#39;t hurt.

Closes #4281.
Closes #4294.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4341

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  * why grease

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<p>Doesn't hurt.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4281.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="731470391" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4281" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4281/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4281">#4281</a>.<br>
<span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4294.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="731483727" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4294" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4294/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4294">#4294</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>why grease</li>
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We have far more values, so in practice this should not be an issue. I agree that we don't want to close out the possibility of reclaiming.

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<p>We have far more values, so in practice this should not be an issue. I agree that we don't want to close out the possibility of reclaiming.</p>

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This might have been a mis-read of the text. The suggestion of using QUIC packets to explore the path is precisely what the text suggests. Propose closing with no action.

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Fixes #4273.
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  * attempt to clarify

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (10)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4273.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="731464432" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4273" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4273/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4273">#4273</a>.</p>

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> @@ -4127,10 +4127,12 @@ UDP datagrams MUST NOT be fragmented at the IP layer.  In IPv4
 ({{!IPv4=RFC0791}}), the DF bit MUST be set if possible, to prevent
 fragmentation on the path.
 
-Datagrams are required to be of a minimum size under some conditions.  However,
-the size of the datagram is not authenticated.  Therefore, an endpoint MUST NOT
-close a connection when it receives a datagram that does not meet size
-constraints, though the endpoint MAY discard such datagrams.
+QUIC sometimes requires datagrams to be larger than a minimum size; see
+{{version-negotiation}} as an example. However, the size of a datagram is not

I think this sentence is incorrect. The intent of the paragraph is to state that receivers MUST NOT close a connection when it receives a datagram of X bytes carrying a QUIC packet, and if that QUIC packet being carried is required to be sent in a datagram of more htan X bytes.

So maybe something like: _QUIC sometimes requires datagrams to be no smaller than certain size; see {{validate-handshake}} as an example._

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4342#discussion_r519149740">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -4127,10 +4127,12 @@ UDP datagrams MUST NOT be fragmented at the IP layer.  In IPv4
 ({{!IPv4=RFC0791}}), the DF bit MUST be set if possible, to prevent
 fragmentation on the path.
 
-Datagrams are required to be of a minimum size under some conditions.  However,
-the size of the datagram is not authenticated.  Therefore, an endpoint MUST NOT
-close a connection when it receives a datagram that does not meet size
-constraints, though the endpoint MAY discard such datagrams.
+QUIC sometimes requires datagrams to be larger than a minimum size; see
+{{version-negotiation}} as an example. However, the size of a datagram is not
</pre>
<p>I think this sentence is incorrect. The intent of the paragraph is to state that receivers MUST NOT close a connection when it receives a datagram of X bytes carrying a QUIC packet, and if that QUIC packet being carried is required to be sent in a datagram of more htan X bytes.</p>
<p>So maybe something like: <em>QUIC sometimes requires datagrams to be no smaller than certain size; see {{validate-handshake}} as an example.</em></p>

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> +least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the
+client validates the server address.

Successfully processed, perhaps 

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4330#discussion_r519308149">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the
+client validates the server address.
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<p>Successfully processed, perhaps</p>

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> @@ -4127,10 +4127,12 @@ UDP datagrams MUST NOT be fragmented at the IP layer.  In IPv4
 ({{!IPv4=RFC0791}}), the DF bit MUST be set if possible, to prevent
 fragmentation on the path.
 
-Datagrams are required to be of a minimum size under some conditions.  However,
-the size of the datagram is not authenticated.  Therefore, an endpoint MUST NOT
-close a connection when it receives a datagram that does not meet size
-constraints, though the endpoint MAY discard such datagrams.
+QUIC sometimes requires datagrams to be larger than a minimum size; see
+{{version-negotiation}} as an example. However, the size of a datagram is not

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4342#discussion_r519311047">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -4127,10 +4127,12 @@ UDP datagrams MUST NOT be fragmented at the IP layer.  In IPv4
 ({{!IPv4=RFC0791}}), the DF bit MUST be set if possible, to prevent
 fragmentation on the path.
 
-Datagrams are required to be of a minimum size under some conditions.  However,
-the size of the datagram is not authenticated.  Therefore, an endpoint MUST NOT
-close a connection when it receives a datagram that does not meet size
-constraints, though the endpoint MAY discard such datagrams.
+QUIC sometimes requires datagrams to be larger than a minimum size; see
+{{version-negotiation}} as an example. However, the size of a datagram is not
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Other than kazuho's nit  which I regard as minor, this is good. 



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<p>Other than kazuho's nit  which I regard as minor, this is good.</p>

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> @@ -1922,13 +1922,14 @@ validation is performed both during connection establishment (see
 
 Connection establishment implicitly provides address validation for both
 endpoints.  In particular, receipt of a packet protected with Handshake keys
-confirms that the client received the Initial packet from the server.  Once the
-server has successfully processed a Handshake packet from the client, it can
-consider the client address to have been validated.
-
-Additionally, a server MAY consider the client address validated if the
-client uses a connection ID chosen by the server and the connection ID contains
-at least 64 bits of entropy.
+confirms that the peer successfully processed an Initial packet.  Once an
+endpoint has successfully processed a Handshake packet from the peer, it can
+consider the peer address to have been validated.
+
+Additionally, an endpoint MAY consider the peer address validated if the peer
+uses a connection ID chosen by the endpoint and the connection ID contains at
+least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the

I think there is a disconnect between the two sentences.

First sentence talks about the peer using the connection ID chosen by the endpoint. But the second sentence tries to derive from the first sentence that the original DCID chosen by the client, which is _never_ chosen as a connection ID by the server, working as a proof.

I think it might make sense to preserve the second paragraph as-is, then add a separate paragraph pointing out that a client validates the server's address when receiving a Initial packet that can be successfully processed, because the protection keys are derived from the client-chosen DCID that is at least 64 bits long.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4330#discussion_r519493631">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1922,13 +1922,14 @@ validation is performed both during connection establishment (see
 
 Connection establishment implicitly provides address validation for both
 endpoints.  In particular, receipt of a packet protected with Handshake keys
-confirms that the client received the Initial packet from the server.  Once the
-server has successfully processed a Handshake packet from the client, it can
-consider the client address to have been validated.
-
-Additionally, a server MAY consider the client address validated if the
-client uses a connection ID chosen by the server and the connection ID contains
-at least 64 bits of entropy.
+confirms that the peer successfully processed an Initial packet.  Once an
+endpoint has successfully processed a Handshake packet from the peer, it can
+consider the peer address to have been validated.
+
+Additionally, an endpoint MAY consider the peer address validated if the peer
+uses a connection ID chosen by the endpoint and the connection ID contains at
+least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the
</pre>
<p>I think there is a disconnect between the two sentences.</p>
<p>First sentence talks about the peer using the connection ID chosen by the endpoint. But the second sentence tries to derive from the first sentence that the original DCID chosen by the client, which is <em>never</em> chosen as a connection ID by the server, working as a proof.</p>
<p>I think it might make sense to preserve the second paragraph as-is, then add a separate paragraph pointing out that a client validates the server's address when receiving a Initial packet that can be successfully processed, because the protection keys are derived from the client-chosen DCID that is at least 64 bits long.</p>

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@janaiyengar I think you missed the change proposed to the reference. It should point to somewhere that imposes minimum datagram size (e.g., {{validate-handshake}}, not {{version-negotiation}}).

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  * Fix reference to section that has said requirement

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Urgh. Thanks for catching that, @kazuho. #4343 sent.

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<p>Urgh. Thanks for catching that, <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/kazuho/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazuho">@kazuho</a>. <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="738592789" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4343" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4343/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4343">#4343</a> sent.</p>

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  Fix reference to section that has said requirement


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  Merge pull request #4343 from quicwg/jri/fix-ref

Fix reference to section that has said requirement


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> @@ -1922,13 +1922,14 @@ validation is performed both during connection establishment (see
 
 Connection establishment implicitly provides address validation for both
 endpoints.  In particular, receipt of a packet protected with Handshake keys
-confirms that the client received the Initial packet from the server.  Once the
-server has successfully processed a Handshake packet from the client, it can
-consider the client address to have been validated.
-
-Additionally, a server MAY consider the client address validated if the
-client uses a connection ID chosen by the server and the connection ID contains
-at least 64 bits of entropy.
+confirms that the peer successfully processed an Initial packet.  Once an
+endpoint has successfully processed a Handshake packet from the peer, it can
+consider the peer address to have been validated.
+
+Additionally, an endpoint MAY consider the peer address validated if the peer
+uses a connection ID chosen by the endpoint and the connection ID contains at
+least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the

This is a good point.  I've a proposal inbound that doesn't add sentences, but rewrites the second instead.

Retry or Version Negotiation are included, but by virtue of their inclusion as a Source Connection ID, not the Initial packet protection.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4330#discussion_r519505439">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1922,13 +1922,14 @@ validation is performed both during connection establishment (see
 
 Connection establishment implicitly provides address validation for both
 endpoints.  In particular, receipt of a packet protected with Handshake keys
-confirms that the client received the Initial packet from the server.  Once the
-server has successfully processed a Handshake packet from the client, it can
-consider the client address to have been validated.
-
-Additionally, a server MAY consider the client address validated if the
-client uses a connection ID chosen by the server and the connection ID contains
-at least 64 bits of entropy.
+confirms that the peer successfully processed an Initial packet.  Once an
+endpoint has successfully processed a Handshake packet from the peer, it can
+consider the peer address to have been validated.
+
+Additionally, an endpoint MAY consider the peer address validated if the peer
+uses a connection ID chosen by the endpoint and the connection ID contains at
+least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the
</pre>
<p>This is a good point.  I've a proposal inbound that doesn't add sentences, but rewrites the second instead.</p>
<p>Retry or Version Negotiation are included, but by virtue of their inclusion as a Source Connection ID, not the Initial packet protection.</p>

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  * ODCID is a special for validating the server address

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (5)

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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

An editorial suggestion, but LGTM

> +least 64 bits of entropy.  For the client, the value of the Destination
+Connection ID field in its first Initial packet also fulfills this requirement,
+such that successfully processing any packet validates the server address.

```suggestion
least 64 bits of entropy. A client can consider the server address validated on
successfully processing any packet received from the server, since for
encrypting its Initial packets,	the server uses the destination connection ID
from the client's first Initial packet (Section 5.2 of {{QUIC-TLS}}).
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> +least 64 bits of entropy.  For the client, the value of the Destination
+Connection ID field in its first Initial packet also fulfills this requirement,
+such that successfully processing any packet validates the server address.

Actually, I might want to reverse this change.  It's not just Initial encryption, it's also Retry and Version Negotiation that the ODCID helps with.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4344#discussion_r519544687">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +least 64 bits of entropy.  For the client, the value of the Destination
+Connection ID field in its first Initial packet also fulfills this requirement,
+such that successfully processing any packet validates the server address.
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<p>Actually, I might want to reverse this change.  It's not just Initial encryption, it's also Retry and Version Negotiation that the ODCID helps with.</p>

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@kazuho commented on this pull request.

Thank you for working on the PR. LGTM modulo one minor point below.

> @@ -1928,8 +1928,10 @@ consider the peer address to have been validated.
 
 Additionally, an endpoint MAY consider the peer address validated if the peer
 uses a connection ID chosen by the endpoint and the connection ID contains at
-least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the
-client validates the server address.
+least 64 bits of entropy. A client can consider the server address validated on
+successfully processing any packet received from the server, since for

Rather than "any packet", I think we might wan to say "Initial packet"? By stating as such, we can be clear that the receipt of Retry packets does not mean that the path has been validated. We do not need to be worried about Handshake or 1-RTT packets because processing an Initial packet is the prerequisite for obtaining keys necessary to decrypt Handshake and 1-RTT packets.

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<p>Thank you for working on the PR. LGTM modulo one minor point below.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4344#discussion_r519556106">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1928,8 +1928,10 @@ consider the peer address to have been validated.
 
 Additionally, an endpoint MAY consider the peer address validated if the peer
 uses a connection ID chosen by the endpoint and the connection ID contains at
-least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the
-client validates the server address.
+least 64 bits of entropy. A client can consider the server address validated on
+successfully processing any packet received from the server, since for
</pre>
<p>Rather than "any packet", I think we might wan to say "Initial packet"? By stating as such, we can be clear that the receipt of Retry packets does not mean that the path has been validated. We do not need to be worried about Handshake or 1-RTT packets because processing an Initial packet is the prerequisite for obtaining keys necessary to decrypt Handshake and 1-RTT packets.</p>

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> @@ -1928,8 +1928,10 @@ consider the peer address to have been validated.
 
 Additionally, an endpoint MAY consider the peer address validated if the peer
 uses a connection ID chosen by the endpoint and the connection ID contains at
-least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the
-client validates the server address.
+least 64 bits of entropy. A client can consider the server address validated on
+successfully processing any packet received from the server, since for

So any packet is correct, if we also say "successfully processed".  Retry and VN both echo the Destination Connection ID field, and Initial packets use encryption.  This is why I think that I will roll back Jana's proposed change - at least partly.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4344#discussion_r519567966">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1928,8 +1928,10 @@ consider the peer address to have been validated.
 
 Additionally, an endpoint MAY consider the peer address validated if the peer
 uses a connection ID chosen by the endpoint and the connection ID contains at
-least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the
-client validates the server address.
+least 64 bits of entropy. A client can consider the server address validated on
+successfully processing any packet received from the server, since for
</pre>
<p>So any packet is correct, if we also say "successfully processed".  Retry and VN both echo the Destination Connection ID field, and Initial packets use encryption.  This is why I think that I will roll back Jana's proposed change - at least partly.</p>

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  Revert "Magic"

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> @@ -1163,6 +1163,11 @@ SHOULD ensure that the pool of connection IDs available to its peer allows the
 peer to use a new connection ID on migration, as the peer will be unable to
 respond if the pool is exhausted.
 
+An endpoint that selects a zero-length connection ID during the handshake
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+field is used for all packets sent toward such an endpoint and for all network
+paths.

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> @@ -1928,8 +1928,10 @@ consider the peer address to have been validated.
 
 Additionally, an endpoint MAY consider the peer address validated if the peer
 uses a connection ID chosen by the endpoint and the connection ID contains at
-least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the
-client validates the server address.
+least 64 bits of entropy. A client can consider the server address validated on
+successfully processing any packet received from the server, since for

@martinthomson Re Retry, I'm not sure if that is the case.

[Section 17.2.5.1](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-17.2.5.1-2) specifies that a server MUST NOT echo the value of the DCID field of an Initial packet that it receives. Therefore, for a client, receiving a Retry packet does not mean that the server has received the Initial packet carrying the DCID that the client chose.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4344#discussion_r519615129">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1928,8 +1928,10 @@ consider the peer address to have been validated.
 
 Additionally, an endpoint MAY consider the peer address validated if the peer
 uses a connection ID chosen by the endpoint and the connection ID contains at
-least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the
-client validates the server address.
+least 64 bits of entropy. A client can consider the server address validated on
+successfully processing any packet received from the server, since for
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<p><a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-17.2.5.1-2" rel="nofollow">Section 17.2.5.1</a> specifies that a server MUST NOT echo the value of the DCID field of an Initial packet that it receives. Therefore, for a client, receiving a Retry packet does not mean that the server has received the Initial packet carrying the DCID that the client chose.</p>

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> @@ -1928,8 +1928,10 @@ consider the peer address to have been validated.
 
 Additionally, an endpoint MAY consider the peer address validated if the peer
 uses a connection ID chosen by the endpoint and the connection ID contains at
-least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the
-client validates the server address.
+least 64 bits of entropy. A client can consider the server address validated on
+successfully processing any packet received from the server, since for

Oh right.  It's the authentication tag in Retry that provides that proof.  Such a complicated, fiddly protocol.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4344#discussion_r519630394">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1928,8 +1928,10 @@ consider the peer address to have been validated.
 
 Additionally, an endpoint MAY consider the peer address validated if the peer
 uses a connection ID chosen by the endpoint and the connection ID contains at
-least 64 bits of entropy.  This means that any valid packet received by the
-client validates the server address.
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<p>LGTM modulo <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="738600869" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4344" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4344/hovercard?comment_id=519630394&amp;comment_type=review_comment" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4344#discussion_r519630394">#4344 (comment)</a>.</p>

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The full sentence referred to is
> If a max_streams transport parameter or a MAX_STREAMS frame is
   received with a value greater than 2^60, this would allow a maximum
   stream ID that cannot be expressed as a variable-length integer; see
   Section 16. 

The second part of that sentence is already explaining the limit. I think we can close this with no action.

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<p>The full sentence referred to is</p>
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<p>If a max_streams transport parameter or a MAX_STREAMS frame is<br>
received with a value greater than 2^60, this would allow a maximum<br>
stream ID that cannot be expressed as a variable-length integer; see<br>
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<p>The second part of that sentence is already explaining the limit. I think we can close this with no action.</p>

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I think the wiki at https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/wiki/QUIC-Versions should be the basis for a registry here, given that it reserves some ranges.

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<p>I think the wiki at <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/wiki/QUIC-Versions">https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/wiki/QUIC-Versions</a> should be the basis for a registry here, given that it reserves some ranges.</p>

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@ianswett approved this pull request.



> @@ -92,9 +92,12 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
-This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  Accompanying
-documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion control and the use of
-TLS for key negotiation.
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+streams for structuring application data, flow control,

structuring application data is not clear to me.

```suggestion
flow-controlled streams for transmitting application data,
```

> -
-* Authenticated and encrypted header and payload
-
-QUIC establishes a connection, which is a stateful interaction between a client
-and server. The primary purpose of a connection is to support the structured
-exchange of data by an application protocol.
+The QUIC handshake combines negotiation of cryptographic and transport
+parameters. QUIC integrates the TLS ({{?TLS13}}) handshake, although using a
+customized framing for protecting packets. The integration of TLS and QUIC is
+described in more detail in {{QUIC-TLS}}. The handshake is structured to permit
+the exchange of application data as soon as possible. This includes an option
+for clients to send data immediately (0-RTT), which might require prior
+communication to enable.
+
+Endpoints communicate in QUIC by exchanging QUIC packets. Most packets contain
+frames, which carry both control information and application data between

To me, "both" makes implies that one frame carries both control and application data.

```suggestion
frames, which carry control information and application data between
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  Branch: refs/heads/transport/generalize_cid_pv
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  ODCID is a special for validating the server address

For #4330.


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This reverts commit c06648102104f5641b68c0d2c0277f51c7b721b1.


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I support using the transport document for to create an IANA based version registry and its ranges. However, I think the proprietary registrations from the WIKI can just as easy be submitted at time of registry creation as the values are FCFS. 
The IETF draft range maybe should be mentioned in the IANA consideration. However, the range is way larger than any single draft document can use. So it can fit multiple draft names. 

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<p>I support using the transport document for to create an IANA based version registry and its ranges. However, I think the proprietary registrations from the WIKI can just as easy be submitted at time of registry creation as the values are FCFS.<br>
The IETF draft range maybe should be mentioned in the IANA consideration. However, the range is way larger than any single draft document can use. So it can fit multiple draft names.</p>

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> @@ -92,9 +92,12 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
-This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  Accompanying
-documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion control and the use of
-TLS for key negotiation.
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+streams for structuring application data, flow control,

I don't think you want to remove flow control from the connection-level descriptors of QUIC.

On "structuring data", the idea is that streams are a way to retain and structure application data. How about "QUIC provides streams for retaining structure in application data, flow control" ?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4329#discussion_r520209551">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -92,9 +92,12 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
-This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  Accompanying
-documents describe QUIC&#39;s loss detection and congestion control and the use of
-TLS for key negotiation.
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+streams for structuring application data, flow control,
</pre>
<p>I don't think you want to remove flow control from the connection-level descriptors of QUIC.</p>
<p>On "structuring data", the idea is that streams are a way to retain and structure application data. How about "QUIC provides streams for retaining structure in application data, flow control" ?</p>

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> +{{QUIC-TLS}}).  Alternatively, the value is echoed by the server in Retry and
+Version Negotiation packets.

It is not echoed in the Retry packet - it is included in the Retry Pseudo-packet over which the integrity tag is computed.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4330#discussion_r520213449">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +{{QUIC-TLS}}).  Alternatively, the value is echoed by the server in Retry and
+Version Negotiation packets.
</pre>
<p>It is not echoed in the Retry packet - it is included in the Retry Pseudo-packet over which the integrity tag is computed.</p>

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> @@ -92,9 +92,12 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
-This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  Accompanying
-documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion control and the use of
-TLS for key negotiation.
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+streams for structuring application data, flow control,

Streams are flow controlled, but other frames are not, so I was attempting to connect the two.  Saying you have flow control and not indicating what you're controlling seems potentially confusing to me.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4329#discussion_r520215684">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -92,9 +92,12 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
-This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  Accompanying
-documents describe QUIC&#39;s loss detection and congestion control and the use of
-TLS for key negotiation.
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+streams for structuring application data, flow control,
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<p>Streams are flow controlled, but other frames are not, so I was attempting to connect the two.  Saying you have flow control and not indicating what you're controlling seems potentially confusing to me.</p>

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> +{{QUIC-TLS}}).  Alternatively, the value is echoed by the server in Retry and
+Version Negotiation packets.

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Negotiation packets ({{version-negotiation}}), and included in the Integrity Tag
in Retry packets (Section 5.8 of {{QUIC-TLS}}).
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Good point. In context, this seems adequate.

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I'll take this and write up a FCFS policy. As for draft versions, I think that we can limit the range we take to the last 10 we used.  0xff00001d needs protection, and maybe some of those preceding it, but no deployments of 0xff000000 exist.

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It would be nice for the new registry to include the currently deployed Google QUIC versions if possible. In particular Q043, Q046, Q050 and T051 represent significant global traffic today.

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  Branch: refs/heads/overview-abstract
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  Changed paths:
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> @@ -92,9 +92,12 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
-This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  Accompanying
-documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion control and the use of
-TLS for key negotiation.
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+streams for structuring application data, flow control,

I think that I prefer Ian's suggestion here.  Breaking these apart doesn't make sense any more.

This could be two sentences instead: one for streams, one for the prime characteristics.  But then Ian's suggestion is shorter than my original proposal.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4329#discussion_r520264113">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -92,9 +92,12 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
-This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  Accompanying
-documents describe QUIC&#39;s loss detection and congestion control and the use of
-TLS for key negotiation.
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+streams for structuring application data, flow control,
</pre>
<p>I think that I prefer Ian's suggestion here.  Breaking these apart doesn't make sense any more.</p>
<p>This could be two sentences instead: one for streams, one for the prime characteristics.  But then Ian's suggestion is shorter than my original proposal.</p>

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> @@ -92,9 +92,12 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
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-TLS for key negotiation.
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+streams for structuring application data, flow control,

> QUIC provides applications with flow-controlled streams for structured communication, low-latency connection establishment, and network path migration.  QUIC includes security measures that ensure confidentiality, integrity, and availability in a range of deployment circumstances.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4329#discussion_r520267266">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -92,9 +92,12 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
-This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  Accompanying
-documents describe QUIC&#39;s loss detection and congestion control and the use of
-TLS for key negotiation.
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+streams for structuring application data, flow control,
</pre>
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<p>QUIC provides applications with flow-controlled streams for structured communication, low-latency connection establishment, and network path migration.  QUIC includes security measures that ensure confidentiality, integrity, and availability in a range of deployment circumstances.</p>
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@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.



> @@ -92,9 +92,12 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
-This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol.  Accompanying
-documents describe QUIC's loss detection and congestion control and the use of
-TLS for key negotiation.
+This document defines the core of the QUIC transport protocol. QUIC provides
+streams for structuring application data, flow control,

I like your proposed text @martinthomson 

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4329#discussion_r520281328">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -92,9 +92,12 @@ informative:
 
 --- abstract
 
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-documents describe QUIC&#39;s loss detection and congestion control and the use of
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+streams for structuring application data, flow control,
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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/bce5cb24c97df4f4c311e9a75fe5513bdb4368a7
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-05 (Thu, 05 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  A zero-length connection ID is always good

For all packets.  For all network paths.


  Commit: 4b93601fe20281bcd25d078ed5b197aa45657006
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/4b93601fe20281bcd25d078ed5b197aa45657006
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-09 (Mon, 09 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  issuance, for all paths or any path

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: c93f25159dc187d8f53a08eefbf886b6e57a83ce
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c93f25159dc187d8f53a08eefbf886b6e57a83ce
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  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4335 from quicwg/migrate-zero-length

A zero-length connection ID is always good


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  Restructure the abstract and overview

This takes some of the concepts that @MikeBishop added in #4326 and
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early references to the key supporting documents.

It removes the bullet feature list and puts that into the abstract as a
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I have also reordered this slightly.  There is no perfect ordering here,
but this no longer very closely matches document structure.


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  Damn, I was worried someone might like this


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  Merge pull request #4329 from quicwg/overview-abstract

Restructure the abstract and overview


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Closes #4280.
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  * Add Versions registry

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (30)

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<p>(Not sure to what extent this is editorial.)</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4280.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="731469581" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4280" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4280/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4280">#4280</a>.</p>

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OK, I'm satisfied with that response.  I think that we'll just have to signal extra information in the text field.  Happy to close this.

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<p>OK, I'm satisfied with that response.  I think that we'll just have to signal extra information in the text field.  Happy to close this.</p>

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I would keep the 0xff000000 range as is - we can reuse if we do a v2, and we don't know how many revs we will need

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@gloinul commented on this pull request.



> @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
+
+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).

So wasn't this supposed to have two ranges: Wiki page says "The (WIP) QUIC specification reserves 0x00000001 to 0x0000ffff for standardized versions of the protocol." I think this is a minimal Specification Required policy. Then you have the FCFS range 0x0001000 to 0xFFFFFFFF. 

> +IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
+
+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).
+
+All fields in {{iana-provisional}} MUST be included in all registrations for
+this registry.
+
+The codepoint of 0x00000001 to the protocol is assigned with permanent status
+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
+this version is reserved for Version Negotiation. All codepoints that follow
+the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are permanently reserved.

I think one should be explicit about the 

0xff[000000-ffffff] | IETF | draft-ietf-quic-transport-xx
-- | -- | --
in the FCFS as being reserved for IETF draft versions. I think in the registry one could include the more specific information which draft-ietf-quic-transport actually used. 



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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520353385">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).
</pre>
<p>So wasn't this supposed to have two ranges: Wiki page says "The (WIP) QUIC specification reserves 0x00000001 to 0x0000ffff for standardized versions of the protocol." I think this is a minimal Specification Required policy. Then you have the FCFS range 0x0001000 to 0xFFFFFFFF.</p>

<hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520354337">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).
+
+All fields in {{iana-provisional}} MUST be included in all registrations for
+this registry.
+
+The codepoint of 0x00000001 to the protocol is assigned with permanent status
+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
+this version is reserved for Version Negotiation. All codepoints that follow
+the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are permanently reserved.
</pre>
<p>I think one should be explicit about the</p>
<table role="table">
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<td>in the FCFS as being reserved for IETF draft versions. I think in the registry one could include the more specific information which draft-ietf-quic-transport actually used.</td>
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> @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
+
+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).

Based on the way things are for other registries, I figured that it was easier to have the whole space left as specification required.  There is no functional difference other than the involvement of an expert and it simplifies things.  I would rather have someone camp on version 2 than have different rules for parts of an otherwise undifferentiated space.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520356746">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).
</pre>
<p>Based on the way things are for other registries, I figured that it was easier to have the whole space left as specification required.  There is no functional difference other than the involvement of an expert and it simplifies things.  I would rather have someone camp on version 2 than have different rules for parts of an otherwise undifferentiated space.</p>

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> +IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
+
+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).
+
+All fields in {{iana-provisional}} MUST be included in all registrations for
+this registry.
+
+The codepoint of 0x00000001 to the protocol is assigned with permanent status
+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
+this version is reserved for Version Negotiation. All codepoints that follow
+the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are permanently reserved.

As above, I don't see any value in propagating that policy.  We don't need the space and can squat on a random piece of the space in future.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520357157">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).
+
+All fields in {{iana-provisional}} MUST be included in all registrations for
+this registry.
+
+The codepoint of 0x00000001 to the protocol is assigned with permanent status
+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
+this version is reserved for Version Negotiation. All codepoints that follow
+the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are permanently reserved.
</pre>
<p>As above, I don't see any value in propagating that policy.  We don't need the space and can squat on a random piece of the space in future.</p>

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A question, shouldn't this registry actually be in Invariants? Version field is an invariant and not specific to V1. 

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<p>A question, shouldn't this registry actually be in Invariants? Version field is an invariant and not specific to V1.</p>

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That's what I thought, too. (I actually looked there as well when @StewartBryant flagged this in his review of -transport.)

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<p>That's what I thought, too. (I actually looked there as well when <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/StewartBryant/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/StewartBryant">@StewartBryant</a> flagged this in his review of -transport.)</p>

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It is considerably easier to reference the general registry guidance and definitions in this document rather than find a way to reference or port them.

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<p>It is considerably easier to reference the general registry guidance and definitions in this document rather than find a way to reference or port them.</p>

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Fair point. Maybe a paragraph in -invariants explaining that a version registry exists and that it is defined in -transport would be good though?

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<p>Fair point. Maybe a paragraph in -invariants explaining that a version registry exists and that it is defined in -transport would be good though?</p>

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> +
+The codepoint of 0x00000001 to the protocol is assigned with permanent status
+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
+this version is reserved for Version Negotiation. All codepoints that follow
+the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are permanently reserved.
+
+\[\[RFC editor: please remove the following note before publication.]]
+
+IANA note:
+
+: Several pre-standardization versions will likely be in use at the time of
+  publication. There is no need to document these in an RFC, but recording
+  information about these version will ensure that the information in the
+  registry is accurate.  The document editors or working group chairs can
+  facilitate getting the necessary information.

Given this note will be removed, you could easy note these versions here. This would be others (than the editor) the chance to review and make sure all version that are currently deployed are covered.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520462452">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+The codepoint of 0x00000001 to the protocol is assigned with permanent status
+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
+this version is reserved for Version Negotiation. All codepoints that follow
+the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are permanently reserved.
+
+\[\[RFC editor: please remove the following note before publication.]]
+
+IANA note:
+
+: Several pre-standardization versions will likely be in use at the time of
+  publication. There is no need to document these in an RFC, but recording
+  information about these version will ensure that the information in the
+  registry is accurate.  The document editors or working group chairs can
+  facilitate getting the necessary information.
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<p>Given this note will be removed, you could easy note these versions here. This would be others (than the editor) the chance to review and make sure all version that are currently deployed are covered.</p>

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> @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
+
+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).

I actually don't see a reason for not separating the space. The are enough codepoints and given we already decided which part of the space we want to use for new versions that are specified in the IETF we should indicate this in the registry, so people know that when they choose a value for testing internal versions.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520463574">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).
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<p>I actually don't see a reason for not separating the space. The are enough codepoints and given we already decided which part of the space we want to use for new versions that are specified in the IETF we should indicate this in the registry, so people know that when they choose a value for testing internal versions.</p>

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> @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
+
+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).

I'm looking for a reason to segregate it.  Protecting IETF rights to little numbers seems like a pretty weak reason when we can use the same rules as everyone else.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520470096">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).
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@mirjak commented on this pull request.



> @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
+
+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).

It's not about protecting, it about letting others know what our plans are. Given there is no shortage on numbers, I only see that as a benefit.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520482094">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).
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@larseggert from my perspective, to define it in -transport and just reference it from Invariants clearly can be made to work. The only issue that might arises in the future is for example when QUIC v1 is declared historic. Then the registry rules become historic despite they being current for any other version. So from a RFC life cycle perspective the version registry aligns with invariants. 

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Do registries automatically become historic when the RFCs that define them do? I didn't know that.

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<p>Do registries automatically become historic when the RFCs that define them do? I didn't know that.</p>

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@martinthomson, do you think an error code for "malformed message" would be useful, if we don't go into the various types of malformed?

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

I feel like there's a little bit of value in having a separate IETF Consensus or Standard Required space, simply to highlight when a spec has that level of broad adoption.  However, like you, I feel like that's fairly mild, so I'm also okay if we don't do that.

> +IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
+
+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).
+
+All fields in {{iana-provisional}} MUST be included in all registrations for
+this registry.
+
+The codepoint of 0x00000001 to the protocol is assigned with permanent status
+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
+this version is reserved for Version Negotiation. All codepoints that follow
+the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are permanently reserved.

Should this use the formulation from the other greasing sections, that IANA SHALL NOT assign them, rather than actually having them reserved in the list?  I don't want to see 16K registrations for "Reserved" on IANA's list, after all.

> +
+The codepoint of 0x00000001 to the protocol is assigned with permanent status
+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
+this version is reserved for Version Negotiation. All codepoints that follow
+the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are permanently reserved.
+
+\[\[RFC editor: please remove the following note before publication.]]
+
+IANA note:
+
+: Several pre-standardization versions will likely be in use at the time of
+  publication. There is no need to document these in an RFC, but recording
+  information about these version will ensure that the information in the
+  registry is accurate.  The document editors or working group chairs can
+  facilitate getting the necessary information.

Or simply link the wiki.

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<p><b>@MikeBishop</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>I feel like there's a little bit of value in having a separate IETF Consensus or Standard Required space, simply to highlight when a spec has that level of broad adoption.  However, like you, I feel like that's fairly mild, so I'm also okay if we don't do that.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520577975">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).
+
+All fields in {{iana-provisional}} MUST be included in all registrations for
+this registry.
+
+The codepoint of 0x00000001 to the protocol is assigned with permanent status
+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
+this version is reserved for Version Negotiation. All codepoints that follow
+the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are permanently reserved.
</pre>
<p>Should this use the formulation from the other greasing sections, that IANA SHALL NOT assign them, rather than actually having them reserved in the list?  I don't want to see 16K registrations for "Reserved" on IANA's list, after all.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520578441">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+The codepoint of 0x00000001 to the protocol is assigned with permanent status
+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
+this version is reserved for Version Negotiation. All codepoints that follow
+the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are permanently reserved.
+
+\[\[RFC editor: please remove the following note before publication.]]
+
+IANA note:
+
+: Several pre-standardization versions will likely be in use at the time of
+  publication. There is no need to document these in an RFC, but recording
+  information about these version will ensure that the information in the
+  registry is accurate.  The document editors or working group chairs can
+  facilitate getting the necessary information.
</pre>
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Fixes #4336, if we want to do that.  There was a hole in the error code space, so I filled it with this.

I haven&#39;t pulled Push out to its own error; it doesn&#39;t seem like it belongs with this one.
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  * Malformed gets its own error

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (6)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4336.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="737313771" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4336" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4336/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4336">#4336</a>, if we want to do that.  There was a hole in the error code space, so I filled it with this.</p>
<p>I haven't pulled Push out to its own error; it doesn't seem like it belongs with this one.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Malformed gets its own error</li>
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    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4346/files#diff-c7364e57fd3b825f8342d91eabf4fa844f1c26127970ccb1af9a1a16a6598165">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>
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That might be useful, yes. 

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> @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
+
+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required

I don't think we should use Specification Required here. Google uses some of these codepoints in production, and we don't have `a permanent and readily available public specification, in sufficient detail so that interoperability between independent implementations is possible`. Expert Review would be a better fit.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520824641">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
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<p>I don't think we should use Specification Required here. Google uses some of these codepoints in production, and we don't have <code>a permanent and readily available public specification, in sufficient detail so that interoperability between independent implementations is possible</code>. Expert Review would be a better fit.</p>

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> @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
+
+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required

A provisional registration should do for the versions you have.  Any reason why it wouldn't?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520919865">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
</pre>
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  Branch: refs/heads/version-registry
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-11 (Wed, 11 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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   MUST NOT be assigned, for consistency



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> @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
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+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required

Given that these code points were deployed for huge amounts of traffic, and there will still be old devices speaking them out there for years, provisional sounds odd to me - no one will be able to reclaim these safely. But if in this context we use "provisional" to mean "doesn't have a public spec" (as opposed to the original meaning of the word) then it works?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520921768">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
</pre>
<p>Given that these code points were deployed for huge amounts of traffic, and there will still be old devices speaking them out there for years, provisional sounds odd to me - no one will be able to reclaim these safely. But if in this context we use "provisional" to mean "doesn't have a public spec" (as opposed to the original meaning of the word) then it works?</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Date:   2020-11-04 (Wed, 04 Nov 2020)

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  Generalize CID-based path validation


  Commit: ed27b7620f4268e8992a0f3e8bb1de336cd81e34
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  Generalize Handshake packets, too


  Commit: 4357b4ebb304fa26cfd216e39bae95193296e78f
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  Apply suggestions from code review

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  Commit: 0dd1d2e0d7d907263bd34cba7826f75fc94cbb78
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  ODCID is a special for validating the server address

For #4330.


  Commit: 5def48e7760be3227472fba349c2a558dcf68fe7
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  Date:   2020-11-09 (Mon, 09 Nov 2020)

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  Magic

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  Commit: 2b3a00f8a7cc84c17a45874bd3f201f8758aa750
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  Revert "Magic"

This reverts commit c06648102104f5641b68c0d2c0277f51c7b721b1.


  Commit: 7de8e8d598703ed35d7feaedb418a8ba700f8646
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  More words on client validation of the server address


  Commit: 67826d03807ec52e255c3fcd486205ac6f20e413
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  Date:   2020-11-10 (Tue, 10 Nov 2020)

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  Jana's text is more accurate.

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  Commit: 8e57311e1e5771ec40a907f3caecbc169bddb1cb
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  Merge pull request #4330 from quicwg/transport/generalize_cid_pv

Generalize handshake path validation


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/93e392302c52...8e57311e1e57


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We might want to add a mention of this in A.4 where we talk about PROTOCOL_ERROR 

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> @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
+
+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required

I think of provisional as something that's not permanent. In this case, while this will take a while to go away, it is getting "drained" off the Internet. In that sense, I would call this provisional.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520933115">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
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  Branch: refs/heads/http/malformed
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> @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
+
+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).

Are we agreed on our future plans though? I am interested in using a completely arbitrary number for version 2.

I agree with keeping this flat; we don't need to make our plans known. I would argue instead that, in the interest of greasing, we _shouldn't_ use 0x2 for v2.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520937571">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).
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<p>Are we agreed on our future plans though? I am interested in using a completely arbitrary number for version 2.</p>
<p>I agree with keeping this flat; we don't need to make our plans known. I would argue instead that, in the interest of greasing, we <em>shouldn't</em> use 0x2 for v2.</p>

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This is a design change, albeit a marginal one.

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<p>This is a design change, albeit a marginal one.</p>

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> @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
+
+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).

I'm not sure that 0x1 for v1 was such a great idea either, but we *did* promise.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520951815">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
+policy ({{!RFC8126}}).
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> @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
+
+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required

@janaiyengar that's also true of draft-29, and will be true of QUICv1 once we ship QUICv2. Why does the presence of a specification impact provisional vs permanent?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r520956573">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
</pre>
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I'm checking "MUST treat" in the transport draft. Sec 17.2.4 says:

> Handshake packets MAY contain CONNECTION_CLOSE frames of type 0x1c. Endpoints MUST treat receipt of Handshake packets with other frames as a connection error.

This is only the place where the type of a connection error is NOT specified. This part should be modified as "a connection error of XXX".

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<p>I'm checking "MUST treat" in the transport draft. Sec 17.2.4 says:</p>
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<p>This is only the place where the type of a connection error is NOT specified. This part should be modified as "a connection error of XXX".</p>

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Sec 12.4 says:

> An endpoint MUST treat the receipt of a frame of unknown type as a connection error of type FRAME_ENCODING_ERROR.

I don't understand why a frame of unknown type MUST be treated as a connection error. Other unknown stuffs are just ignored. In the spirit of greasing, I think that a frame of unknown type is also just ignored.

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<p>I don't understand why a frame of unknown type MUST be treated as a connection error. Other unknown stuffs are just ignored. In the spirit of greasing, I think that a frame of unknown type is also just ignored.</p>

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@larseggert No. I'm still confused.

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In order to decode QUIC packets you need to know the length of all the frames inside them. An unknown frame is likely to have an unknown length. Requiring all frames to have a length field is an overhead that we didn't want to pay.

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> Note that it is not possible to send the following frames in 0-RTT packets for various reasons: ACK, CRYPTO, HANDSHAKE_DONE, NEW_TOKEN, PATH_RESPONSE, and RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID. A server MAY treat receipt of these frames in 0-RTT packets as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

This talks about "impossible". This text should be moved to Sec 12.4. And if this text is correct, the 0 mark of NEW_TOKEN, PATH_RESPONSE, and RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID should be removed.

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<p>Note that it is not possible to send the following frames in 0-RTT packets for various reasons: ACK, CRYPTO, HANDSHAKE_DONE, NEW_TOKEN, PATH_RESPONSE, and RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID. A server MAY treat receipt of these frames in 0-RTT packets as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.</p>
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<p>This talks about "impossible". This text should be moved to Sec 12.4. And if this text is correct, the 0 mark of NEW_TOKEN, PATH_RESPONSE, and RETIRE_CONNECTION_ID should be removed.</p>

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Sec 12.4 talks about "possible" and Sec 12.5 talks about "permissible":

So, "An endpoint MUST treat receipt of a frame in a packet type that is not permitted as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION" should be moved from Sec 12.4 to Sec 12.5.


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<p>Sec 12.4 talks about "possible" and Sec 12.5 talks about "permissible":</p>
<p>So, "An endpoint MUST treat receipt of a frame in a packet type that is not permitted as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION" should be moved from Sec 12.4 to Sec 12.5.</p>

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This was deliberate, but you can now send CONNECTION_CLOSE in this case, so it makes sense to use a code here. 

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<p>This was deliberate, but you can now send CONNECTION_CLOSE in this case, so it makes sense to use a code here.</p>

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Good point. Thanks.

But my point is why MUST? What about "MAY"?

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<p>Good point. Thanks.</p>
<p>But my point is why MUST? What about "MAY"?</p>

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The rationale is explained a bit more in section 19.21. But really this is simply one of those cases where the peer is behaving in a way that violates a core contract of the protocol, I don't see any benefits that a MAY would allow. Better to fail fast and fail hard.

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Aside from what @LPardue pointed out, one of the practical issues are that the receiver cannot decode frames that might exist after the unknown one.

If the receiver acks the packet that carried an unknown frame, the sender might not retransmit the frames that followed the unknown frame. If the receiver does not ack the packet that carried the unknown frame, then the sender might continue retransmitting that frame.

Either ways, the connection gets stuck.

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<p>Aside from what <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/LPardue/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/LPardue">@LPardue</a> pointed out, one of the practical issues are that the receiver cannot decode frames that might exist after the unknown one.</p>
<p>If the receiver acks the packet that carried an unknown frame, the sender might not retransmit the frames that followed the unknown frame. If the receiver does not ack the packet that carried the unknown frame, then the sender might continue retransmitting that frame.</p>
<p>Either ways, the connection gets stuck.</p>

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This is a fine question, but I don't see any need for changes. 

To add to the reasons, btw, if frames preceding the unknown one are processed, and frames after aren't, you both have to acknowledge and can't acknowledge the packet. At the same time.

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<p>This is a fine question, but I don't see any need for changes.</p>
<p>To add to the reasons, btw, if frames preceding the unknown one are processed, and frames after aren't, you both have to acknowledge and can't acknowledge the packet. At the same time.</p>

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> +All fields in {{iana-provisional}} MUST be included in all registrations for
+this registry.

I'm not sure how to square away this MUST with the MAY exception in {{iana-provisional}}: "Provisional registrations MAY omit the Specification and Notes fields, plus any additional fields that might be required for a permanent registration." Presumably the MAY is still allowed ... why is this MUST necessary here?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r521133473">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +All fields in {{iana-provisional}} MUST be included in all registrations for
+this registry.
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<p>I'm not sure how to square away this MUST with the MAY exception in {{iana-provisional}}: "Provisional registrations MAY omit the Specification and Notes fields, plus any additional fields that might be required for a permanent registration." Presumably the MAY is still allowed ... why is this MUST necessary here?</p>

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> @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for "QUIC Versions" under a "QUIC"
+heading.
+
+The "QUIC Versions" registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required

@DavidSchinazi : It's not the presence of a spec, but that a provisional registration allows for the _absence_ of a spec. See https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-22.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r521133542">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7334,6 +7334,36 @@ change controller of the IETF and a contact of the QUIC working group
 (quic@ietf.org).
 
 
+## QUIC Versions Registry {#iana-version}
+
+IANA \[SHALL add/has added] a registry for &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; under a &quot;QUIC&quot;
+heading.
+
+The &quot;QUIC Versions&quot; registry governs a 32-bit space; see {{versions}}. This
+registry follows the registration policy from {{iana-policy}}. Permanent
+registrations in this registry are assigned using the Specification Required
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> +
+The codepoint of 0x00000001 to the protocol is assigned with permanent status
+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
+this version is reserved for Version Negotiation. All codepoints that follow
+the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are permanently reserved.
+
+\[\[RFC editor: please remove the following note before publication.]]
+
+IANA note:
+
+: Several pre-standardization versions will likely be in use at the time of
+  publication. There is no need to document these in an RFC, but recording
+  information about these version will ensure that the information in the
+  registry is accurate.  The document editors or working group chairs can
+  facilitate getting the necessary information.

Since this document will have a date, it might make more sense to include the list here.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r521134040">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+The codepoint of 0x00000001 to the protocol is assigned with permanent status
+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
+this version is reserved for Version Negotiation. All codepoints that follow
+the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are permanently reserved.
+
+\[\[RFC editor: please remove the following note before publication.]]
+
+IANA note:
+
+: Several pre-standardization versions will likely be in use at the time of
+  publication. There is no need to document these in an RFC, but recording
+  information about these version will ensure that the information in the
+  registry is accurate.  The document editors or working group chairs can
+  facilitate getting the necessary information.
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+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
+this version is reserved for Version Negotiation. All codepoints that follow
+the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are permanently reserved.
+
+\[\[RFC editor: please remove the following note before publication.]]
+
+IANA note:
+
+: Several pre-standardization versions will likely be in use at the time of
+  publication. There is no need to document these in an RFC, but recording
+  information about these version will ensure that the information in the
+  registry is accurate.  The document editors or working group chairs can
+  facilitate getting the necessary information.

I would prefer to leave the dynamic information to the registry.  Documenting the mess of proprietary versions we currently know about isn't really something that is worth creating a permanent record of.

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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r521185168">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
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+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
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+
+\[\[RFC editor: please remove the following note before publication.]]
+
+IANA note:
+
+: Several pre-standardization versions will likely be in use at the time of
+  publication. There is no need to document these in an RFC, but recording
+  information about these version will ensure that the information in the
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Relates to https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-http-32#section-6.2. 

The section is pretty exhaustive already. However, someone taking things too literally might just advertise credit for the bare minimum unidirectional streams. If that is the case, it restricts our ability to grease reserved streams and catch problems early.

For example, quiche has all the logic in place to send reserved streams but will always send the mandatory control streams first. Clients that are overly conservative with credits will never get tested.

I wonder if we should more strongly recommend providing +1 credit on the top of control streams.



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<p>Relates to <a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-http-32#section-6.2" rel="nofollow">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-http-32#section-6.2</a>.</p>
<p>The section is pretty exhaustive already. However, someone taking things too literally might just advertise credit for the bare minimum unidirectional streams. If that is the case, it restricts our ability to grease reserved streams and catch problems early.</p>
<p>For example, quiche has all the logic in place to send reserved streams but will always send the mandatory control streams first. Clients that are overly conservative with credits will never get tested.</p>
<p>I wonder if we should more strongly recommend providing +1 credit on the top of control streams.</p>

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I think the question is if we have to grease a receiver that only accepts three unidirectional streams, knowing that the specification states that it can assume that the sender will open the three critical streams before opening others.

The argument for status quo would be that such a receiver has refused to provide extensibility, and therefore that it does not have to be greased.

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<p>I think the question is if we have to grease a receiver that only accepts three unidirectional streams, knowing that the specification states that it can assume that the sender will open the three critical streams before opening others.</p>
<p>The argument for status quo would be that such a receiver has refused to provide extensibility, and therefore that it does not have to be greased.</p>

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The text is careful to say that an endpoint won't necessarily add any more credits. In quiche, we model stream limits as concurrency limits, so an application that sets a value of e.g. 3 will only add more credit when a stream closes, which typically doesn't happen because the control streams are opened first and not closed.

 > The argument for status quo would be that such a receiver has refused to provide extensibility, and therefore that it does not have to be greased.

This is my concern. There's not a way to opt out  explicitly. A peer has to provide credits and has to ignore unknown extensions. My endpoint can use credits as it wishes. If I choose not to create control streams first I might hurt my application. So the incentive is not to exercise our greasing capabilities, which is not great.

Theres a possible risk here that implementions don't gear themselves up for draining or resetting reserved streams. That might interfere with things like flow control in unexpected ways, perhaps causing interop side effects that are hard to detect or fix in the wild.

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<p>The text is careful to say that an endpoint won't necessarily add any more credits. In quiche, we model stream limits as concurrency limits, so an application that sets a value of e.g. 3 will only add more credit when a stream closes, which typically doesn't happen because the control streams are opened first and not closed.</p>
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<p>This is my concern. There's not a way to opt out  explicitly. A peer has to provide credits and has to ignore unknown extensions. My endpoint can use credits as it wishes. If I choose not to create control streams first I might hurt my application. So the incentive is not to exercise our greasing capabilities, which is not great.</p>
<p>Theres a possible risk here that implementions don't gear themselves up for draining or resetting reserved streams. That might interfere with things like flow control in unexpected ways, perhaps causing interop side effects that are hard to detect or fix in the wild.</p>

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No, the registries do not become historic. The issue, is that if you would declare QUICv1 obsolete in QUICv2, then you can't reference the RFC for draft-ietf-quic-transport as that is obsolete for the registry rules when you register the QUICv2 identifier. Thus, you need to copy them to v2. And assuming that we might have several in force QUIC versions this can jump around. By placing the registration rules in invariants this issues would be avoided. As that RFC will only be updated due to need to change invariants or these specific rules. 

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<p>No, the registries do not become historic. The issue, is that if you would declare QUICv1 obsolete in QUICv2, then you can't reference the RFC for draft-ietf-quic-transport as that is obsolete for the registry rules when you register the QUICv2 identifier. Thus, you need to copy them to v2. And assuming that we might have several in force QUIC versions this can jump around. By placing the registration rules in invariants this issues would be avoided. As that RFC will only be updated due to need to change invariants or these specific rules.</p>

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I don't think QUIC v2 would necessarily obsolete v1, FWIW.

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<p>I don't think QUIC v2 would necessarily obsolete v1, FWIW.</p>

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@larseggert probably not, but maybe QUICv4 will obsolete v1. I do expect that the obsoleting version specifying documents are more likely than invariant becoming obsoleted. Clearly both approaches can be made to work, there are slightly different trade-offs what may need to happen down the line. 

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I think the argument for status quo are that:
* There's no reason to grease receivers limiting number of incoming unidirectional streams *in total* to three. None of the three unidirectional streams  are to be drained or reset.
* If the receiver provides additional room (either through TP.initial_max_streams_uni or through MAX_STREAMS frames), then the sender can grease.

So I do not think that we are in bad shape. That said, I do agree that it is a bit complex, and I would not oppose to changing the requirement to "receivers MUST be capable of receiving data through three unidirectional streams concurrently."

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<p>I think the argument for status quo are that:</p>
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<li>There's no reason to grease receivers limiting number of incoming unidirectional streams <em>in total</em> to three. None of the three unidirectional streams  are to be drained or reset.</li>
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<p>So I do not think that we are in bad shape. That said, I do agree that it is a bit complex, and I would not oppose to changing the requirement to "receivers MUST be capable of receiving data through three unidirectional streams concurrently."</p>

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I think I'd be happy with just a "SHOULD at least 4", but I could also live with doing nothing.

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<p>I think I'd be happy with just a "SHOULD at least 4", but I could also live with doing nothing.</p>

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IIRC we had a discussion regarding if endpoints have to allow 3, or if the limit can be lower to reduce memory pressure on endpoints.

Recommending 4 goes above that, without having the capability of greasing all receivers. And the sender's logic for greasing is complex.

If we change the text to "MUST do at least there unidirectional streams concurrently," then there would be no issue regarding memory pressure. It would be possible to grease all receivers. And the sender's logic can be simple, assuming that the clients that need performance would do at least 4.

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<p>IIRC we had a discussion regarding if endpoints have to allow 3, or if the limit can be lower to reduce memory pressure on endpoints.</p>
<p>Recommending 4 goes above that, without having the capability of greasing all receivers. And the sender's logic for greasing is complex.</p>
<p>If we change the text to "MUST do at least there unidirectional streams concurrently," then there would be no issue regarding memory pressure. It would be possible to grease all receivers. And the sender's logic can be simple, assuming that the clients that need performance would do at least 4.</p>

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Oh I missed the nuance of your concurrency statement, sorry. That could work but I wonder what others think the impact might be. We don't have much interop testing coverage in this area.

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<p>Oh I missed the nuance of your concurrency statement, sorry. That could work but I wonder what others think the impact might be. We don't have much interop testing coverage in this area.</p>

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> +All fields in {{iana-provisional}} MUST be included in all registrations for
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> +
+The codepoint of 0x00000001 to the protocol is assigned with permanent status
+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
+this version is reserved for Version Negotiation. All codepoints that follow
+the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are permanently reserved.
+
+\[\[RFC editor: please remove the following note before publication.]]
+
+IANA note:
+
+: Several pre-standardization versions will likely be in use at the time of
+  publication. There is no need to document these in an RFC, but recording
+  information about these version will ensure that the information in the
+  registry is accurate.  The document editors or working group chairs can
+  facilitate getting the necessary information.

Yeah, that's a fair point.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345#discussion_r521802504">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; +
+The codepoint of 0x00000001 to the protocol is assigned with permanent status
+to the protocol defined in this document. The codepoint of 0x00000000 is
+permanently reserved; the note for this codepoint \[shall] indicate\[s] that
+this version is reserved for Version Negotiation. All codepoints that follow
+the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are permanently reserved.
+
+\[\[RFC editor: please remove the following note before publication.]]
+
+IANA note:
+
+: Several pre-standardization versions will likely be in use at the time of
+  publication. There is no need to document these in an RFC, but recording
+  information about these version will ensure that the information in the
+  registry is accurate.  The document editors or working group chairs can
+  facilitate getting the necessary information.
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This issue derives from the efforts of @kazu-yamamoto to write an HTTP3 test suite, and outline potential implementation issues when sticking to the spec. Section 17.2 of the transport spec describes the format of long header packets, and says:

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    Two bits (those with a mask of 0x0c) of byte 0 are reserved across multiple packet types. These bits are protected using header protection; see Section 5.4 of [QUIC-TLS]. The value included prior to protection MUST be set to 0. An endpoint MUST treat receipt of a packet that has a non-zero value for these bits after removing both packet and header protection as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. Discarding such a packet after only removing header protection can expose the endpoint to attacks; see Section 9.5 of [QUIC-TLS].

I can see doing that for Handshake or 0-RTT packets, but for Initial packets that feels risky. Any man-on-the-side can send forged Initial packets, including forged Initial packets with reserved bits set. Do we really intend to say that such packets cause the connection to break? What if the handshake has already progressed?

My gut feeling is that it is simpler and safer to ignore malformed Initial packets and discard them silently.

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<p>This issue derives from the efforts of <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/kazu-yamamoto/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazu-yamamoto">@kazu-yamamoto</a> to write an HTTP3 test suite, and outline potential implementation issues when sticking to the spec. Section 17.2 of the transport spec describes the format of long header packets, and says:</p>
<p>Reserved Bits:<br>
Two bits (those with a mask of 0x0c) of byte 0 are reserved across multiple packet types. These bits are protected using header protection; see Section 5.4 of [QUIC-TLS]. The value included prior to protection MUST be set to 0. An endpoint MUST treat receipt of a packet that has a non-zero value for these bits after removing both packet and header protection as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. Discarding such a packet after only removing header protection can expose the endpoint to attacks; see Section 9.5 of [QUIC-TLS].</p>
<p>I can see doing that for Handshake or 0-RTT packets, but for Initial packets that feels risky. Any man-on-the-side can send forged Initial packets, including forged Initial packets with reserved bits set. Do we really intend to say that such packets cause the connection to break? What if the handshake has already progressed?</p>
<p>My gut feeling is that it is simpler and safer to ignore malformed Initial packets and discard them silently.</p>

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> My gut feeling is that it is simpler and safer to ignore malformed Initial packets and discard them silently.

IIUC, [the last paragraph of section 21.2](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-21.2-8) allows endpoints to implement such strategy, quote: _Endpoints are permitted to use other methods to detect and attempt to recover from interference with the handshake. Invalid packets may be identified and discarded using other methods, but no specific method is mandated in this document._

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<p>My gut feeling is that it is simpler and safer to ignore malformed Initial packets and discard them silently.</p>
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<p>IIUC, <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-21.2-8" rel="nofollow">the last paragraph of section 21.2</a> allows endpoints to implement such strategy, quote: <em>Endpoints are permitted to use other methods to detect and attempt to recover from interference with the handshake. Invalid packets may be identified and discarded using other methods, but no specific method is mandated in this document.</em></p>

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@kazuho has correctly identified the escape hatch we left.  Initial packets are the only place where this really applies, but it goes much further than just those two bits.

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IANA has promised they will provide a IETF last call review before the deadline expires. 

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Are you saying the MUST is not a real MUST because in the "Security Considerations" there is a suggestion that implementations could deviate??? IMHO that would be weird, given emphasis on the meaning of MUST.  

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<p>Are you saying the MUST is not a real MUST because in the "Security Considerations" there is a suggestion that implementations could deviate??? IMHO that would be weird, given emphasis on the meaning of MUST.</p>

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> @@ -2686,9 +2709,9 @@ might also occur because the client's access network used a different NAT
 binding for the server's preferred address.
 
 Servers SHOULD initiate path validation to the client's new address upon

This entire paragraph doesn't seem very specific to "Interaction of Client Migration and Preferred Address"

I think it'd be better to reference the section and not put these normative statements here, since they are so general.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4264#discussion_r523127019">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2686,9 +2709,9 @@ might also occur because the client&#39;s access network used a different NAT
 binding for the server&#39;s preferred address.
 
 Servers SHOULD initiate path validation to the client&#39;s new address upon
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<p>This entire paragraph doesn't seem very specific to "Interaction of Client Migration and Preferred Address"</p>
<p>I think it'd be better to reference the section and not put these normative statements here, since they are so general.</p>

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In the HTTP genart review, @theri writes:

> The document defines "stream" as a QUIC stream, but then also uses the term
"HTTP/3 stream". Perhaps it's worth defining "HTTP/3 stream" explicitly, in
analogy to "HTTP/3 connection". Perhaps it's worth defining "message", too
(this is only an HTTP concept, correct?).

The document should make sure it clearly distinguishes terms and concept of
QUIC vs. of HTTP/3 in all cases. In particular, what is the relationship
between HTTP/3 frames and QUIC frames? It's important to make their difference
and relationship explicit, as the document uses several other terms
interchangeably between HTTP/3 and QUIC, like "connection" and perhaps "stream".

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<p>In the HTTP genart review, <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/theri/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/theri">@theri</a> writes:</p>
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<p>The document defines "stream" as a QUIC stream, but then also uses the term<br>
"HTTP/3 stream". Perhaps it's worth defining "HTTP/3 stream" explicitly, in<br>
analogy to "HTTP/3 connection". Perhaps it's worth defining "message", too<br>
(this is only an HTTP concept, correct?).</p>
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<p>The document should make sure it clearly distinguishes terms and concept of<br>
QUIC vs. of HTTP/3 in all cases. In particular, what is the relationship<br>
between HTTP/3 frames and QUIC frames? It's important to make their difference<br>
and relationship explicit, as the document uses several other terms<br>
interchangeably between HTTP/3 and QUIC, like "connection" and perhaps "stream".</p>

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In the HTTP genart review, @theri writes:

> The concepts around error codes is not entirely clear to me, e.g.,
H3_REQUEST_INCOMPLETE or H3_NO_ERROR - Are these a separate concept from HTTP
response status codes such as "200 OK" and "404 Not Found", etc.? Are these
error codes related to QUIC errors? Is the "application error code" mentioned
in Section 5.3 the same concept or is it a different concept? Is the
"application error code" an HTTP/3 concept of a QUIC concept? Is "connection
error" used in Section 7 the same concept or is it a difference concept? Does a
"connection error" as used in Section 7 always mean that the entire connection
fails, as opposed to a single stream? Section 8 aims to explain some of these
concepts, and I think the document should reference to this section for more
information when it starts mentioning all these different error types. (Or, if
they are all the same, perhaps the terminology should be unified.)


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<p></p>
<p>In the HTTP genart review, <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/theri/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/theri">@theri</a> writes:</p>
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<p>The concepts around error codes is not entirely clear to me, e.g.,<br>
H3_REQUEST_INCOMPLETE or H3_NO_ERROR - Are these a separate concept from HTTP<br>
response status codes such as "200 OK" and "404 Not Found", etc.? Are these<br>
error codes related to QUIC errors? Is the "application error code" mentioned<br>
in Section 5.3 the same concept or is it a different concept? Is the<br>
"application error code" an HTTP/3 concept of a QUIC concept? Is "connection<br>
error" used in Section 7 the same concept or is it a difference concept? Does a<br>
"connection error" as used in Section 7 always mean that the entire connection<br>
fails, as opposed to a single stream? Section 8 aims to explain some of these<br>
concepts, and I think the document should reference to this section for more<br>
information when it starts mentioning all these different error types. (Or, if<br>
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In the HTTP genart review, @theri writes:

> Section 4.1.1.

> 
> "HTTP messages carry metadata as a series of key-value pairs, called HTTP
> fields." Are these the same as HTTP headers and trailers? Or are HTTP fields a
> more general concept? Are they also allowed in bodies?

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<p>In the HTTP genart review, <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/theri/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/theri">@theri</a> writes:</p>
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<p>Section 4.1.1.</p>
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<p>"HTTP messages carry metadata as a series of key-value pairs, called HTTP<br>
fields." Are these the same as HTTP headers and trailers? Or are HTTP fields a<br>
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In the HTTP genart review, @theri writes:

> Section 4.1.1.3
> 
> "because this limit is applied at each hop," ...
> What is a hop in the context of HTTP? I think it's worth at least briefly
> introducing this concept to make things clearer, as the document includes many
> different concepts from different layers.

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<p>Section 4.1.1.3</p>
<p>"because this limit is applied at each hop," ...<br>
What is a hop in the context of HTTP? I think it's worth at least briefly<br>
introducing this concept to make things clearer, as the document includes many<br>
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In the HTTP genart review, @theri writes:

> Section 4.1.2
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> "Automatically retrying such requests is
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>    actions like GET, PUT, or DELETE)."
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<p>In the HTTP genart review, <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/theri/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/theri">@theri</a> writes:</p>
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Retrying is "not possible" means it's prohibited? Is there a reference to the<br>
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In the HTTP genart review, @theri writes:

> Section 5.1
> 
> "HTTP/3 implementations will need to open a new HTTP/3
>    connection for new requests if the existing connection has been idle
>    for longer than the server's advertised idle timeout"
> Only the server's timeout? Does "implementations" here mean only clients?

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In the HTTP genart review, @theri writes:

> Section 6.2
> 
> "However, stream types that could modify the state or
>    semantics of existing protocol components, including QPACK or other
>    extensions, MUST NOT be sent until the peer is known to support them."
> Is there a defined list of stream types that are not allowed to be used? If so,
> please provide a reference.
> 
> Is section 6 missing the request stream? It has subsections for Control Streams
> and Push Streams, but then Section 7 says that Request Stream is also a stream
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<p>In the HTTP genart review, <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/theri/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/theri">@theri</a> writes:</p>
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<p>Section 6.2</p>
<p>"However, stream types that could modify the state or<br>
semantics of existing protocol components, including QPACK or other<br>
extensions, MUST NOT be sent until the peer is known to support them."<br>
Is there a defined list of stream types that are not allowed to be used? If so,<br>
please provide a reference.</p>
<p>Is section 6 missing the request stream? It has subsections for Control Streams<br>
and Push Streams, but then Section 7 says that Request Stream is also a stream<br>
type.</p>
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Yes, CONNECT only supports TCP, and there's no short-term plan to change that. There is separate relevant work such as [CONNECT-UDP](https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-masque-connect-udp) but I don't think we need to change anything in the draft here - it pretty clearly mentions TCP so I don't see any ambiguity.

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<p>Yes, CONNECT only supports TCP, and there's no short-term plan to change that. There is separate relevant work such as <a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-masque-connect-udp" rel="nofollow">CONNECT-UDP</a> but I don't think we need to change anything in the draft here - it pretty clearly mentions TCP so I don't see any ambiguity.</p>

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This question should be addressed by the definition of CONNECT the spec is referring to.  It's worth double-checking the references in that section, though; it points to HTTP11, when I think there should be a definition in SEMANTICS.

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<p>This question should be addressed by the definition of CONNECT the spec is referring to.  It's worth double-checking the references in that section, though; it points to HTTP11, when I think there should be a definition in SEMANTICS.</p>

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Request streams are all client-initiated bidirectional streams, so they're not defined as a unidirectional stream type.  It's probably worth defining the term somewhere, though.

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<p>Request streams are all client-initiated bidirectional streams, so they're not defined as a unidirectional stream type.  It's probably worth defining the term somewhere, though.</p>

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That language has changed in transport, so we should update to match here.  The timeout is negotiated between server and client.

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<p>That language has changed in transport, so we should update to match here.  The timeout is negotiated between server and client.</p>

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Presumably a reference into SEMANTICS; I'll look for the right section to point to.

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<p>Presumably a reference into SEMANTICS; I'll look for the right section to point to.</p>

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> @@ -2686,9 +2709,9 @@ might also occur because the client's access network used a different NAT
 binding for the server's preferred address.
 
 Servers SHOULD initiate path validation to the client's new address upon

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4264#discussion_r523876072">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2686,9 +2709,9 @@ might also occur because the client&#39;s access network used a different NAT
 binding for the server&#39;s preferred address.
 
 Servers SHOULD initiate path validation to the client&#39;s new address upon
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<p>Agreed.</p>

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But we managed to hide that in the security considerations.

Closes #4350.



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But we managed to hide that in the security considerations.

Closes #4350.
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  * Discarding an invalid Initial is allowed

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (6)

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<p>But we managed to hide that in the security considerations.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4350.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="742185505" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4350" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4350/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4350">#4350</a>.</p>

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In most cases, this turned out to be the wrong word anyway.

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I know that "may" is used in all of these cases in the strictly
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In most cases, this turned out to be the wrong word anyway.

There is &quot;can&quot;, which is a simple statement of fact.  There is &quot;could&quot;,
for stating that something is possible.  There is &quot;MAY&quot;, once, which
might be wrong.  There is also cases where the word wasn&#39;t needed at
all.

I know that &quot;may&quot; is used in all of these cases in the strictly
colloquial sense, with no normative intent, but it is a tiny bit
distracting.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4360

-- Commit Summary --

  * Stop using &quot;may&quot;

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (57)

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<p>In most cases, this turned out to be the wrong word anyway.</p>
<p>There is "can", which is a simple statement of fact.  There is "could",<br>
for stating that something is possible.  There is "MAY", once, which<br>
might be wrong.  There is also cases where the word wasn't needed at<br>
all.</p>
<p>I know that "may" is used in all of these cases in the strictly<br>
colloquial sense, with no normative intent, but it is a tiny bit<br>
distracting.</p>

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4360'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4360</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Stop using &quot;may&quot;</li>
</ul>

<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4360/files#diff-42873df666a8ef4f18a716aaeefb1815db2d7a1935cc8d47532191f2648439cf">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>
    (57)
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<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4360.patch'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4360.patch</a></li>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4360.diff'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4360.diff</a></li>
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The curlies were fine, but we use brackets already for:

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for pn_space in [ Initial, Handshake, ApplicationData ]:
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So this is arguably more consistent.


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  The AEAD also prevents modification

The description neglected to mention this.  Obviously, the
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It removes the bullet feature list and puts that into the abstract as a
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I have also reordered this slightly.  There is no perfect ordering here,
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  Correctly cite Section 9.5 of -tls

Closes #4333.


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  A zero-length connection ID is always good

For all packets.  For all network paths.


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  Apply suggestions from code review

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  A delivery from Oxford

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  Feedback

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    M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md
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  Log Message:
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  Merge branch 'master' into array-brackets


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  Merge pull request #4337 from quicwg/array-brackets

Use brackets for empty arrays


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  Merge pull request #4334 from quicwg/9-point-5

Correctly cite Section 9.5 of -tls


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  Merge pull request #4338 from quicwg/initial-accidental-modification

The AEAD also prevents modification


  Commit: 99fa4ebd3d0ac19560b353a49dbaa0af71bedab3
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-11-06 (Fri, 06 Nov 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4340 from quicwg/recovery/trial_decryption

Loss epoch wording


  Commit: 52724b3c5c964e9b0a67612f8de675fb99ad7515
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  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-11-06 (Fri, 06 Nov 2020)

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  why grease


  Commit: d9f90a1c8cbb4f25c79f53aa4833a24ed1f696eb
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d9f90a1c8cbb4f25c79f53aa4833a24ed1f696eb
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-11-06 (Fri, 06 Nov 2020)

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  Revert "why grease"

This reverts commit 52724b3c5c964e9b0a67612f8de675fb99ad7515.


  Commit: 177fe0d7087e1d78fafcab4c9236c6c933822797
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/177fe0d7087e1d78fafcab4c9236c6c933822797
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-11-06 (Fri, 06 Nov 2020)

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  attempt to clarify


  Commit: ade0b033ad81cbd832185871a5bb56dbc844dc34
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ade0b033ad81cbd832185871a5bb56dbc844dc34
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-11-08 (Sun, 08 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  no smaller than


  Commit: 7add0eb2f5707913aedf3253ee12b5717a738efe
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7add0eb2f5707913aedf3253ee12b5717a738efe
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-11-08 (Sun, 08 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Merge pull request #4342 from quicwg/jri/morewords

Clarify datagram size authentication a bit


  Commit: 8f2f9bb91285ce404eece97b9797d6fc4fac3a8c
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8f2f9bb91285ce404eece97b9797d6fc4fac3a8c
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-11-08 (Sun, 08 Nov 2020)

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  Fix reference to section that has said requirement


  Commit: 6fcf2fe3a44e2b852223d559dc365df4d3ce7093
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6fcf2fe3a44e2b852223d559dc365df4d3ce7093
  Author: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-11-08 (Sun, 08 Nov 2020)

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  Merge pull request #4343 from quicwg/jri/fix-ref

Fix reference to section that has said requirement


  Commit: 94aeddcf5fb8efa5f8a163faadcea246fa57179a
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-09 (Mon, 09 Nov 2020)

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  Jana's suggestions

minus one

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 4b93601fe20281bcd25d078ed5b197aa45657006
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-09 (Mon, 09 Nov 2020)

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  issuance, for all paths or any path

Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


  Commit: 0dd1d2e0d7d907263bd34cba7826f75fc94cbb78
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  Date:   2020-11-09 (Mon, 09 Nov 2020)

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  ODCID is a special for validating the server address

For #4330.


  Commit: 5def48e7760be3227472fba349c2a558dcf68fe7
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  Magic

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  Commit: 2b3a00f8a7cc84c17a45874bd3f201f8758aa750
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  Revert "Magic"

This reverts commit c06648102104f5641b68c0d2c0277f51c7b721b1.


  Commit: 7de8e8d598703ed35d7feaedb418a8ba700f8646
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  Date:   2020-11-09 (Mon, 09 Nov 2020)

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  More words on client validation of the server address


  Commit: b880714d5a10934076ec421d4da40a7bb71207d0
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  Date:   2020-11-10 (Tue, 10 Nov 2020)

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  Commit: 67826d03807ec52e255c3fcd486205ac6f20e413
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  Jana's text is more accurate.

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  Commit: c93f25159dc187d8f53a08eefbf886b6e57a83ce
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  Merge pull request #4335 from quicwg/migrate-zero-length

A zero-length connection ID is always good


  Commit: 4b60b93cbd69d05780c2bdc1bbeca75fd81a06c0
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-10 (Tue, 10 Nov 2020)

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  Damn, I was worried someone might like this


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Restructure the abstract and overview


  Commit: 8e57311e1e5771ec40a907f3caecbc169bddb1cb
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  Merge pull request #4330 from quicwg/transport/generalize_cid_pv

Generalize handshake path validation


  Commit: 3e5b0fd79e99bc1dfef884234b2699240ced1a3a
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  Date:   2020-11-17 (Tue, 17 Nov 2020)

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> @@ -2686,9 +2709,9 @@ might also occur because the client's access network used a different NAT
 binding for the server's preferred address.
 
 Servers SHOULD initiate path validation to the client's new address upon

Follow-up Q: Is this SHOULD specific to "Interaction of Client Migration and Preferred Address" or more general?  It seems more general, but I don't have a strong opinion.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4264#discussion_r524734912">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2686,9 +2709,9 @@ might also occur because the client&#39;s access network used a different NAT
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My opinion is:
- An endpoint MUST send PROTOCOL_VIOLATION for 1-RTT.
- An endpoint MAY send PROTOCOL_VIOLATION or MAY discard the packet for other types.

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<p>My opinion is:</p>
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<li>An endpoint MUST send PROTOCOL_VIOLATION for 1-RTT.</li>
<li>An endpoint MAY send PROTOCOL_VIOLATION or MAY discard the packet for other types.</li>
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Sec 12.4 says:

> The payload of a packet that contains frames MUST contain at least one frame, and MAY contain multiple frames and multiple frame types.

There is no specification of error handling in the case of zero frame. I would like to know what kind of error MUST be sent.

Also, the packet formats contains the following field:

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Packet Payload (..)
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Should we change this to the following?

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Packet Payload (8..)
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<p></p>
<p>Sec 12.4 says:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>The payload of a packet that contains frames MUST contain at least one frame, and MAY contain multiple frames and multiple frame types.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>There is no specification of error handling in the case of zero frame. I would like to know what kind of error MUST be sent.</p>
<p>Also, the packet formats contains the following field:</p>
<pre><code>Packet Payload (..)
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<p>Should we change this to the following?</p>
<pre><code>Packet Payload (8..)
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@martinthomson The confusion happened because of the strong language in section 17.2:

_Reserved Bits:
    Two bits (those with a mask of 0x0c) of byte 0 are reserved across multiple packet types. These bits are protected using header protection; see Section 5.4 of [QUIC-TLS]. The value included prior to protection MUST be set to 0. An endpoint MUST treat receipt of a packet that has a non-zero value for these bits after removing both packet and header protection as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. Discarding such a packet after only removing header protection can expose the endpoint to attacks; see Section 9.5 of [QUIC-TLS]._

When @kazu-yamamoto built his test suite, he logically set up a test to verify adherence to this MUST. I think this MUST should be changed to "MUST (unless you know better)", i.e. SHOULD. Maybe as in:

_Reserved Bits:
    Two bits (those with a mask of 0x0c) of byte 0 are reserved across multiple packet types. These bits are protected using header protection; see Section 5.4 of [QUIC-TLS]. The value included prior to protection MUST be set to 0. Except for INITIAL packets, an endpoint MUST treat receipt of a packet that has a non-zero value for these bits after removing both packet and header protection as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION; see {{packet-protected}} for the exception for INITIAL packets. Discarding such a packet after only removing header protection can expose the endpoint to attacks; see Section 9.5 of [QUIC-TLS]._

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<p><em>Reserved Bits:<br>
Two bits (those with a mask of 0x0c) of byte 0 are reserved across multiple packet types. These bits are protected using header protection; see Section 5.4 of [QUIC-TLS]. The value included prior to protection MUST be set to 0. An endpoint MUST treat receipt of a packet that has a non-zero value for these bits after removing both packet and header protection as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. Discarding such a packet after only removing header protection can expose the endpoint to attacks; see Section 9.5 of [QUIC-TLS].</em></p>
<p>When <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/kazu-yamamoto/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/kazu-yamamoto">@kazu-yamamoto</a> built his test suite, he logically set up a test to verify adherence to this MUST. I think this MUST should be changed to "MUST (unless you know better)", i.e. SHOULD. Maybe as in:</p>
<p><em>Reserved Bits:<br>
Two bits (those with a mask of 0x0c) of byte 0 are reserved across multiple packet types. These bits are protected using header protection; see Section 5.4 of [QUIC-TLS]. The value included prior to protection MUST be set to 0. Except for INITIAL packets, an endpoint MUST treat receipt of a packet that has a non-zero value for these bits after removing both packet and header protection as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION; see {{packet-protected}} for the exception for INITIAL packets. Discarding such a packet after only removing header protection can expose the endpoint to attacks; see Section 9.5 of [QUIC-TLS].</em></p>

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LGTM. Regarding the MUST clause for the two bits, adding "unless stated otherwise" works for me too.



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<p>LGTM. Regarding the MUST clause for the two bits, adding "unless stated otherwise" works for me too.</p>

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Hilarie Orman wrote:
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I have is that the authentication model for QUIC-HTTP is not
explicitly spelled out.  The only discussion is in section 3.4
Connection Reuse, and although that section may be technically
correct, I find it hard to understand.  Similarly, there is brief


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<p>The only problem that<br>
I have is that the authentication model for QUIC-HTTP is not<br>
explicitly spelled out.  The only discussion is in section 3.4<br>
Connection Reuse, and although that section may be technically<br>
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Hilarie Orman wrote:
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mention of privacy wrt reused connections in 10.11, but that is
weak beer, simply saying that HTTP 3 prefers not to reuse connections.

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> And integrity of the data isn't mentioned at all, perhaps because
all this is assumed to be provided by QUIC.  Section 10.2 says that
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<p>And integrity of the data isn't mentioned at all, perhaps because<br>
all this is assumed to be provided by QUIC.  Section 10.2 says that<br>
all QUIC packets are encrypted; I'm not sure if that's true, or if<br>
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> Summary:  This draft describes how TLS is used with QUIC.  This draft is ready for publication.
Major issues: none
Minor issues:none
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Sarah Banks wrote:
> Overall, I found this to be a very well written document. For a doc that
    tracks at ~65 pages, I couldn't find any critiques, short of editorial
    nits here and there. It reads as "thoughtful", and as if it's had the many
    reviews and eyeballs on it as it seems to have had. I also appreciated the
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<p>Overall, I found this to be a very well written document. For a doc that<br>
tracks at ~65 pages, I couldn't find any critiques, short of editorial<br>
nits here and there. It reads as "thoughtful", and as if it's had the many<br>
reviews and eyeballs on it as it seems to have had. I also appreciated the<br>
feedback and advice regarding performance. A big thank you to the authors,<br>
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IANA wrote:
> The IANA Functions Operator understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which we must complete.
>
>In the TLS ExtensionType Values registry on the Transport Layer Security (TLS) Extensions registry page located at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-extensiontype-values/
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> a single, new value is to be registered as follows:
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>Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ]
>Extension Name: quic_transport_parameters
>TLS 1.3: CH, EE
>Recommended: Y
>Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]
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>As this document requests registrations in a Specification Required (see RFC 8126) registry, we will initiate the required Expert Review via a separate request. This review must be completed before the document's IANA state can be changed to "IANA OK."
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>The IANA Functions Operator understands that this is the only action required to be completed upon approval of this document.


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<p>IANA wrote:</p>
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<p>The IANA Functions Operator understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which we must complete.</p>
<p>In the TLS ExtensionType Values registry on the Transport Layer Security (TLS) Extensions registry page located at: <a href="https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-extensiontype-values/" rel="nofollow">https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-extensiontype-values/</a></p>
<p>a single, new value is to be registered as follows:</p>
<p>Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ]<br>
Extension Name: quic_transport_parameters<br>
TLS 1.3: CH, EE<br>
Recommended: Y<br>
Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]</p>
<p>As this document requests registrations in a Specification Required (see RFC 8126) registry, we will initiate the required Expert Review via a separate request. This review must be completed before the document's IANA state can be changed to "IANA OK."</p>
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IANA wrote:
> The IANA Functions Operator understands that, upon approval of this document, there are three actions which we must complete.
>
> First, in the HTTP/3 Settings registry created upon approval of draft-iana-quic-http two new values are to be registered as follows:
>
```
+==========================+======+=============================+=========+
| Setting Name | Code | Specification | Default |
+==========================+======+=============================+=========+
| QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY | 0x1 | [ RFC-to-be Section 5 ] | 0 |
+--------------------------+------+-----------------------------+---------+
| QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS | 0x7 | [ RFC-to-be Section 5 ] | 0 |
+--------------------------+------+-----------------------------+---------+
```
>Second, in the HTTP/3 Stream Type registry created upon approval of draft-iana-quic-http two new values are to be registered as follows:
```
+======================+======+============================+========+
| Stream Type | Code | Specification | Sender |
+======================+======+============================+========+
| QPACK Encoder Stream | 0x02 | [ RFC-to-be Section 4.2 ] | Both |
+----------------------+------+----------------------------+--------+
| QPACK Decoder Stream | 0x03 | [ RFC-to-be ]Section 4.2 ] | Both |
+----------------------+------+----------------------------+--------+
```
>Third, in the HTTP/3 Error Codes registry created upon approval of draft-iana-quic-http three new values are to be registered as follows:
```
+============================+=======+=============+============================+
| Name | Code | Description | Specification |
+============================+=======+=============+============================+
| QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED | 0x200 | Decoding of | [ RFC-to-be Section 6 ] |
| | | a field | |
| | | section | |
| | | failed | |
+----------------------------+-------+-------------+----------------------------+
| QPACK_ENCODER_STREAM_ERROR | 0x201 | Error on | [ RFC-to-be Section 6 ] |
| | | the encoder | |
| | | stream | |
+----------------------------+-------+-------------+----------------------------+
| QPACK_DECODER_STREAM_ERROR | 0x202 | Error on | [ RFC-to-be Section 6 ] |
| | | the decoder | |
| | | stream | |
+----------------------------+-------+-------------+----------------------------+
```
>The IANA Functions Operator understands that these are the only actions required to be completed upon approval of this document.

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<p>IANA wrote:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>The IANA Functions Operator understands that, upon approval of this document, there are three actions which we must complete.</p>
<p>First, in the HTTP/3 Settings registry created upon approval of draft-iana-quic-http two new values are to be registered as follows:</p>
</blockquote>
<pre><code>+==========================+======+=============================+=========+
| Setting Name | Code | Specification | Default |
+==========================+======+=============================+=========+
| QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY | 0x1 | [ RFC-to-be Section 5 ] | 0 |
+--------------------------+------+-----------------------------+---------+
| QPACK_BLOCKED_STREAMS | 0x7 | [ RFC-to-be Section 5 ] | 0 |
+--------------------------+------+-----------------------------+---------+
</code></pre>
<blockquote>
<p>Second, in the HTTP/3 Stream Type registry created upon approval of draft-iana-quic-http two new values are to be registered as follows:</p>
</blockquote>
<pre><code>+======================+======+============================+========+
| Stream Type | Code | Specification | Sender |
+======================+======+============================+========+
| QPACK Encoder Stream | 0x02 | [ RFC-to-be Section 4.2 ] | Both |
+----------------------+------+----------------------------+--------+
| QPACK Decoder Stream | 0x03 | [ RFC-to-be ]Section 4.2 ] | Both |
+----------------------+------+----------------------------+--------+
</code></pre>
<blockquote>
<p>Third, in the HTTP/3 Error Codes registry created upon approval of draft-iana-quic-http three new values are to be registered as follows:</p>
</blockquote>
<pre><code>+============================+=======+=============+============================+
| Name | Code | Description | Specification |
+============================+=======+=============+============================+
| QPACK_DECOMPRESSION_FAILED | 0x200 | Decoding of | [ RFC-to-be Section 6 ] |
| | | a field | |
| | | section | |
| | | failed | |
+----------------------------+-------+-------------+----------------------------+
| QPACK_ENCODER_STREAM_ERROR | 0x201 | Error on | [ RFC-to-be Section 6 ] |
| | | the encoder | |
| | | stream | |
+----------------------------+-------+-------------+----------------------------+
| QPACK_DECODER_STREAM_ERROR | 0x202 | Error on | [ RFC-to-be Section 6 ] |
| | | the decoder | |
| | | stream | |
+----------------------------+-------+-------------+----------------------------+
</code></pre>
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Editors, please review if the actions IANA has identified above are accurate?

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Please see the [review email](https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/2A76lPm7A86Aeu-6Y2mZyxB0Qtw) for full context. This issue is tracking the following IANA question:
>Fourth, a new registry is to be created called the HTTP/3 Error Code registry. The registry will be created on a registry page to be decided as a result of the answer to the question from IANA above.
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>IANA will add a note to the registry indicating that: " each code of the format "0x1f * N + 0x21" for non-negative integer values of N (that is, 0x21, 0x40, ..., through 0x3FFFFFFFFFFFFFF) are reserved."
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>IANA Question --> are those values to be marked as reserved in the new registry?

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<p>Please see the <a href="https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/2A76lPm7A86Aeu-6Y2mZyxB0Qtw" rel="nofollow">review email</a> for full context. This issue is tracking the following IANA question:</p>
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<p>Fourth, a new registry is to be created called the HTTP/3 Error Code registry. The registry will be created on a registry page to be decided as a result of the answer to the question from IANA above.</p>
<p>IANA will add a note to the registry indicating that: " each code of the format "0x1f * N + 0x21" for non-negative integer values of N (that is, 0x21, 0x40, ..., through 0x3FFFFFFFFFFFFFF) are reserved."</p>
<p>IANA Question --&gt; are those values to be marked as reserved in the new registry?</p>
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Editors, has IANA correctly identified the required actions (modulo the four questions raised that we are tracking in other issues in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/milestone/17

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Please see the [review email](https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/xlL0IKet4F_QwoiesvANZ32YsKQ) for full context. This issue is tracking the following IANA question:
>First, a new registry page will be created on the IANA Matrix located at: https://www.iana.org/protocols
>the new registry page will be titled "QUIC" and have a reference of [ RFC-to-be ].
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>IANA Question --> Regarding the detailed instructions in section 22.1 of the current document, it's not clear to us what information should be captured in a note. Can you provide the notes that should be added to the top of each registry?


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<p>First, a new registry page will be created on the IANA Matrix located at: <a href="https://www.iana.org/protocols" rel="nofollow">https://www.iana.org/protocols</a><br>
the new registry page will be titled "QUIC" and have a reference of [ RFC-to-be ].</p>
<p>IANA Question --&gt; Regarding the detailed instructions in section 22.1 of the current document, it's not clear to us what information should be captured in a note. Can you provide the notes that should be added to the top of each registry?</p>
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>Second, a new registry will be created on the registry page created above called the QUIC Transport Parameters registry. The new registry will be managed via the Specification Required policy as defined by RFC8126.
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Please see the [review email](https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/xlL0IKet4F_QwoiesvANZ32YsKQ) for full context. 

Editors, has IANA correctly identified the required actions (modulo the four questions raised that we are tracking in other issues in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/milestone/18

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<p>Editors, has IANA correctly identified the required actions (modulo the four questions raised that we are tracking in other issues in <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/milestone/18">https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/milestone/18</a></p>

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Since only servers can send NEW_TOKEN, using &quot;client&quot; is clearer. &quot;Servers MUST treat&quot; is used only here, so it is changed into &quot;A server MUST treat&quot;.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * s/endpoint/client/ because only a server can send NEW_TOKEN.

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (8)

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<p>Since only servers can send NEW_TOKEN, using "client" is clearer. "Servers MUST treat" is used only here, so it is changed into "A server MUST treat".</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>s/endpoint/client/ because only a server can send NEW_TOKEN.</li>
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This PR is fine, but I agree with @huitema above. I think we should add the exception and a reference to this text in 17.2.

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<p>This PR is fine, but I agree with <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/huitema/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/huitema">@huitema</a> above. I think we should add the exception and a reference to this text in 17.2.</p>

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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

one nit, but LGTM. Thanks for doing this!

> @@ -1555,11 +1555,12 @@ the first packet is of type Initial, with packet number 0, and contains a CRYPTO
 frame carrying the ClientHello.
 
 Multiple QUIC packets -- even of different packet types -- can be coalesced into
-a single UDP datagram; see {{packet-coalesce}}. As a result, this handshake may
-consist of as few as 4 UDP datagrams, or any number more (subject to limits
-inherent to the protocol, such as congestion control or anti-amplification).
-For instance, the server's first flight contains Initial packets, Handshake
-packets, and "0.5-RTT data" in 1-RTT packets with a short header.
+a single UDP datagram; see {{packet-coalesce}}. As a result, this handshake
+could consist of as few as 4 UDP datagrams, or any number more (subject to
+limits inherent to the protocol, such as congestion control or

```suggestion
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Modulo the discussion on location of #4280.

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Copying my e-mail reply here:

> With regard to the GREASE values (the questions below), we specifically did not want the values shown as Reserved for two different reasons.  First, as a practical matter, 148 quadrillion reserved entries would be difficult to list on the page and will drown any actual reservations.  Second, the point of these values is that an implementer should be following the guidance to ignore 
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> The intent, which we wanted to confirm was possible, was simply to say that IANA should not accept registrations for these values.  That feels functionally equivalent to Reserved; if it's possible to be "reserved but not listed," that's a reasonable implementation.  If it's necessary to have the note present, I prefer the "will not be assigned by IANA" language you've used for the Error Code registry over noting them as Reserved.

This also applies to #4373 and #4374, where the latter has better wording.

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<p>Copying my e-mail reply here:</p>
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<p>With regard to the GREASE values (the questions below), we specifically did not want the values shown as Reserved for two different reasons.  First, as a practical matter, 148 quadrillion reserved entries would be difficult to list on the page and will drown any actual reservations.  Second, the point of these values is that an implementer should be following the guidance to ignore<br>
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<p>The intent, which we wanted to confirm was possible, was simply to say that IANA should not accept registrations for these values.  That feels functionally equivalent to Reserved; if it's possible to be "reserved but not listed," that's a reasonable implementation.  If it's necessary to have the note present, I prefer the "will not be assigned by IANA" language you've used for the Error Code registry over noting them as Reserved.</p>
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Response on #4372 applies here as well.

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<p>Response on <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="744436065" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4372" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4372/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4372">#4372</a> applies here as well.</p>

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I feel like the current text covers this adequately.  Recipients MUST permit at least three, and senders SHOULD initiate the required ones first.  SHOULD, by definition, means that it's not strictly mandatory but things could get dicey if you don't.  You're describing the way in which it gets dicey.

Otherwise stated, a receiver that has no support for unidirectional streams beyond control and QPACK won't get greased.  A receiver that wants to add any feature that uses unidirectional streams is going to encounter grease streams and will have to deal with them properly.  I'm okay with that balance.

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<p>I feel like the current text covers this adequately.  Recipients MUST permit at least three, and senders SHOULD initiate the required ones first.  SHOULD, by definition, means that it's not strictly mandatory but things could get dicey if you don't.  You're describing the way in which it gets dicey.</p>
<p>Otherwise stated, a receiver that has no support for unidirectional streams beyond control and QPACK won't get greased.  A receiver that wants to add any feature that uses unidirectional streams is going to encounter grease streams and will have to deal with them properly.  I'm okay with that balance.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Changed paths:
    M ietf109/Version Aliasing IETF109.pdf

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  Update presentation (#176)

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Actually, we now know that this is not true, so this really needs to be fixed:

> Because all QUIC packets are encrypted, it is difficult for an attacker to control the plaintext bytes of an HTTP/3 connection, which could be used in a cross-protocol attack on a plaintext protocol.

-- from [Section 10.2](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-http.html#name-cross-protocol-attacks).

The real solution here is to cite [Section 21.5](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#name-request-forgery-attacks) of the transport draft.

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<p>Because all QUIC packets are encrypted, it is difficult for an attacker to control the plaintext bytes of an HTTP/3 connection, which could be used in a cross-protocol attack on a plaintext protocol.</p>
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<p>-- from <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-http.html#name-cross-protocol-attacks" rel="nofollow">Section 10.2</a>.</p>
<p>The real solution here is to cite <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#name-request-forgery-attacks" rel="nofollow">Section 21.5</a> of the transport draft.</p>

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Fixes several nits from the gen-art review, which basically all come down to defining terms appropriately and/or referencing their definitions.

- Fixes #4351; modifies definition of &quot;stream&quot; and &quot;stream error&quot;; pulls in more terms from SEMANTICS
- Fixes #4353; references SEMANTICS for definition of fields
- Fixes #4354; rewords to avoid the term &quot;hop&quot; and describes intermediation more explicitly
- Fixes #4355; rewords to avoid saying &quot;not possible&quot; and copies language from SEMANTICS advising against retries
- #4356; updates reference to definition of CONNECT in SEMANTICS.

@theri, your review would be appreciated.
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-- Commit Summary --

  * Expand definitions section
  * Reference for fields
  * Expand on hops
  * Import semantics&#39; language about idempotent retries
  * Reference definition of CONNECT
  * General idle timout reference
  * Define and reference request streams

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (69)

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https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4383.patch
https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4383.diff

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<p>Fixes several nits from the gen-art review, which basically all come down to defining terms appropriately and/or referencing their definitions.</p>
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<li><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4351.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="743319848" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4351" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4351/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4351">#4351</a>; modifies definition of "stream" and "stream error"; pulls in more terms from SEMANTICS</li>
<li><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4353.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="743319862" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4353" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4353/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4353">#4353</a>; references SEMANTICS for definition of fields</li>
<li><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4354.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="743319871" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4354" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4354/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4354">#4354</a>; rewords to avoid the term "hop" and describes intermediation more explicitly</li>
<li><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4355.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="743319880" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4355" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4355/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4355">#4355</a>; rewords to avoid saying "not possible" and copies language from SEMANTICS advising against retries</li>
<li><a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="743319885" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4356" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4356/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4356">#4356</a>; updates reference to definition of CONNECT in SEMANTICS.</li>
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<p><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/theri/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/theri">@theri</a>, your review would be appreciated.</p>

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<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Expand definitions section</li>
  <li>Reference for fields</li>
  <li>Expand on hops</li>
  <li>Import semantics&#39; language about idempotent retries</li>
  <li>Reference definition of CONNECT</li>
  <li>General idle timout reference</li>
  <li>Define and reference request streams</li>
</ul>

<h4>File Changes</h4>
<ul>
  <li>
    <strong>M</strong>
    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4383/files#diff-c7364e57fd3b825f8342d91eabf4fa844f1c26127970ccb1af9a1a16a6598165">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>
    (69)
  </li>
</ul>

<h4>Patch Links:</h4>
<ul>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4383.patch'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4383.patch</a></li>
  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4383.diff'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4383.diff</a></li>
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As you note, Section 8 describes the types of error, but mostly defers to QUIC-TRANSPORT for that.  It's probably worth pulling some more context into this document.

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  Branch: refs/heads/http/how_errors_work
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  Changed paths:
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Fixes #4352.

Expands on error handling discussion and clarifies difference from HTTP status codes which indicate error response.  Also, some editorial consistency fixes:

- The references to errors seem to have missed our switch to use &quot;; see XXXX.&quot; where possible.
- Somewhere along the way, we stopped referring to the error handling section when defining errors.

I&#39;ve done a sweep and believe these are consistent now.

@theri, your review would be appreciated.
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  * Rework lots of error references

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4352.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="743319857" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4352" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4352/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4352">#4352</a>.</p>
<p>Expands on error handling discussion and clarifies difference from HTTP status codes which indicate error response.  Also, some editorial consistency fixes:</p>
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<li>The references to errors seem to have missed our switch to use "; see XXXX." where possible.</li>
<li>Somewhere along the way, we stopped referring to the error handling section when defining errors.</li>
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<p>I've done a sweep and believe these are consistent now.</p>
<p><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/theri/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/theri">@theri</a>, your review would be appreciated.</p>

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I agree with this review, "stream type" is used unqualified across section 6.2 and 7

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<p>I agree with this review, "stream type" is used unqualified across section 6.2 and 7</p>

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Section 6.2 says:

> To avoid blocking, the transport parameters sent
   by both clients and servers MUST allow the peer to create at least
   one unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus the number
   of unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (three
   being the minimum number required for the base HTTP/3 protocol and
   QPACK)

and

> Note that an endpoint is not required to grant additional credits to
   create more unidirectional streams if its peer consumes all the
   initial credits before creating the critical unidirectional streams.
   Endpoints SHOULD create the HTTP control stream as well as the
   unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (such as the
   QPACK encoder and decoder streams) first, and then create additional
   streams as allowed by their peer.

The second paragraph is a bit sweeping. Instead of "consumes all" it really should say "consumes any". 

Perhaps we can argue about whether reserved streams are mandatory to implement or not but that seems self-defeatist. I will point out though that closing reserved streams is one our recommended methods of exercising reserved error codes. 


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<p>Section 6.2 says:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>To avoid blocking, the transport parameters sent<br>
by both clients and servers MUST allow the peer to create at least<br>
one unidirectional stream for the HTTP control stream plus the number<br>
of unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (three<br>
being the minimum number required for the base HTTP/3 protocol and<br>
QPACK)</p>
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<p>and</p>
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<p>Note that an endpoint is not required to grant additional credits to<br>
create more unidirectional streams if its peer consumes all the<br>
initial credits before creating the critical unidirectional streams.<br>
Endpoints SHOULD create the HTTP control stream as well as the<br>
unidirectional streams required by mandatory extensions (such as the<br>
QPACK encoder and decoder streams) first, and then create additional<br>
streams as allowed by their peer.</p>
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<p>The second paragraph is a bit sweeping. Instead of "consumes all" it really should say "consumes any".</p>
<p>Perhaps we can argue about whether reserved streams are mandatory to implement or not but that seems self-defeatist. I will point out though that closing reserved streams is one our recommended methods of exercising reserved error codes.</p>

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I think it is a good question that has two aspects. If a registrant is requesting additional consecutive values beyond an earlier registration is that okay? But other registrants they need to draw a new random value to not block the next value? Or any future allocation should have to select a new random value? 

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<p>I think it is a good question that has two aspects. If a registrant is requesting additional consecutive values beyond an earlier registration is that okay? But other registrants they need to draw a new random value to not block the next value? Or any future allocation should have to select a new random value?</p>
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I think what this is intended to convey is:
- Permanent registrations for the first unallocated codepoint are *intended for* use in Standards-track documents
- The "negotiation" involved in a provisional registration is essentially to confirm that the requestor is doing so for use in a document which is likely to become a Standards-track RFC.

It's the "likely to" that becomes squishy.  Do we actually need this?

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<p>I think what this is intended to convey is:</p>
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<li>Permanent registrations for the first unallocated codepoint are <em>intended for</em> use in Standards-track documents</li>
<li>The "negotiation" involved in a provisional registration is essentially to confirm that the requestor is doing so for use in a document which is likely to become a Standards-track RFC.</li>
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<p>It's the "likely to" that becomes squishy.  Do we actually need this?</p>

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When talking to IANA today, they did ask about how early allocation (RFC7120) interacts with this question. So I understand why IANA react to the "negotiate" language as that is requiring them to apply value judgment rather than follow basic rules to allocate or not. 

So I think there are a couple of different way here. 

1. Require standards action for allocation with the first unallocated value. During the development phase of that option the document recommends either of these two options.

A. Use a randomly selected value Provisional assignment. When going for approval specify that a new code point is allocated that has that specific property desired (short encoding?). 

B. Request early allocation (RFC7120) for that standards action code point. 

I think what one uses has a lot to do with the perceived maturity of what the code point represent. I think A has significant advantages as if one need to do format changes one can simply request a new provisional code point, that is not possible with B. 

I think there may exist a point of making it clear also for IETF / Standards Process work that there is a point of doing provisional registrations as soon as one need a code point for testing. 



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<p>When talking to IANA today, they did ask about how early allocation (RFC7120) interacts with this question. So I understand why IANA react to the "negotiate" language as that is requiring them to apply value judgment rather than follow basic rules to allocate or not.</p>
<p>So I think there are a couple of different way here.</p>
<ol>
<li>Require standards action for allocation with the first unallocated value. During the development phase of that option the document recommends either of these two options.</li>
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<p>A. Use a randomly selected value Provisional assignment. When going for approval specify that a new code point is allocated that has that specific property desired (short encoding?).</p>
<p>B. Request early allocation (RFC7120) for that standards action code point.</p>
<p>I think what one uses has a lot to do with the perceived maturity of what the code point represent. I think A has significant advantages as if one need to do format changes one can simply request a new provisional code point, that is not possible with B.</p>
<p>I think there may exist a point of making it clear also for IETF / Standards Process work that there is a point of doing provisional registrations as soon as one need a code point for testing.</p>

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Section 22.1.4:

   "For
   instance, the registries for 62-bit codepoints in this document have
   stricter policies for codepoints in the range from 0 to 63."

Looking then at 22.2 it states:

   The "QUIC Transport Parameters" registry governs a 62-bit space.
   This registry follows the registration policy from Section 22.1.
   Permanent registrations in this registry are assigned using the
   Specification Required policy ([RFC8126]).

No mention of the special registration rule for values in the 0-63 range. 

Section 22.3 and 22.4 do have these special rules. 

So should 22.1.4 be changed to state "may"/"sometime" have this rule. Or should a special rule be added to 22.2 and the version registry?






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<p>Section 22.1.4:</p>
<p>"For<br>
instance, the registries for 62-bit codepoints in this document have<br>
stricter policies for codepoints in the range from 0 to 63."</p>
<p>Looking then at 22.2 it states:</p>
<p>The "QUIC Transport Parameters" registry governs a 62-bit space.<br>
This registry follows the registration policy from Section 22.1.<br>
Permanent registrations in this registry are assigned using the<br>
Specification Required policy ([RFC8126]).</p>
<p>No mention of the special registration rule for values in the 0-63 range.</p>
<p>Section 22.3 and 22.4 do have these special rules.</p>
<p>So should 22.1.4 be changed to state "may"/"sometime" have this rule. Or should a special rule be added to 22.2 and the version registry?</p>

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So in #4378 I have a comment that indicates a potential solution or direction for how to work with this using either of two process that will be clearer. Either provisional for test and development value and then assign a final value when approving the specification, or early allocation per RFC 7120.

I also like to point out that there is very large hole in this algorithm. If a registry has assigned 0-N then asking for N+1 is rejected, but asking for N+2 is the approved without question per these rules unless you are in a registry with the special rules for 0-63 values. 

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<p>So in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="744441319" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4378" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4378/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4378">#4378</a> I have a comment that indicates a potential solution or direction for how to work with this using either of two process that will be clearer. Either provisional for test and development value and then assign a final value when approving the specification, or early allocation per RFC 7120.</p>
<p>I also like to point out that there is very large hole in this algorithm. If a registry has assigned 0-N then asking for N+1 is rejected, but asking for N+2 is the approved without question per these rules unless you are in a registry with the special rules for 0-63 values.</p>

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@MikeBishop I think that is a good proposal. 

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> Amazingly complete. I am sure that a naive implementer can code from this.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials
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      https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/commit/12294fecc11cbb1b54cc3e79c410191b78419986
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  Changed paths:
    A ietf109/qlog_IETF109.pdf

  Log Message:
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  Add qlog slides (#178)



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How many other rules do we need to create exemptions for?  What if the Initial contains a bad frame?  What if the CRYPTO frame is too long?

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<p>How many other rules do we need to create exemptions for?  What if the Initial contains a bad frame?  What if the CRYPTO frame is too long?</p>

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After reviewing the text, I don't see any request for a note, or anything that suggests that a note might be necessary.  One can be provided, but I would prefer to keep the relevant information in the specification.

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If you don't want to have the discussion about exceptions, then write SHOULD instead of MUST.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

A few minor suggestions, but this is a good change.

> @@ -680,8 +683,10 @@ If an implementation wishes to advise its peer of this limit, it can be conveyed
 as a number of bytes in the SETTINGS_MAX_FIELD_SECTION_SIZE parameter. An
 implementation that has received this parameter SHOULD NOT send an HTTP message
 header that exceeds the indicated size, as the peer will likely refuse to
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+process it.  However, an HTTP message can traverse one or more intermediaries
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```suggestion
before reaching the origin server; see Section 3.7 of {{!SEMANTICS}}.  Because
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> @@ -718,9 +723,12 @@ closure of the request stream with this error code.
 
 If a stream is canceled after receiving a complete response, the client MAY
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+idempotent actions (such as GET, PUT, or DELETE) can be safely retried; a client

```suggestion
idempotent actions such as GET, PUT, or DELETE can be safely retried; a client
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> +has some means to know that the request semantics are actually idempotent,
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```suggestion
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  Date:   2020-11-18 (Wed, 18 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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I just sent [an email](https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/0wt2N8v7GHX_6vRRRH2uSy4T4LE/) suggesting that we adopt a different formula to the one we currently use for identifying grease codepoints.

The current formula, `27+31N` takes a lot of codepoints.  This means that if someone deploys real code that depends on this value, the odds of a collision between that usage and real grease might be too low.  A different scheme with a higher risk of collision might avoid accidents that might ultimately render greasing ineffective.

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<p>I just sent <a href="https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/0wt2N8v7GHX_6vRRRH2uSy4T4LE/" rel="nofollow">an email</a> suggesting that we adopt a different formula to the one we currently use for identifying grease codepoints.</p>
<p>The current formula, <code>27+31N</code> takes a lot of codepoints.  This means that if someone deploys real code that depends on this value, the odds of a collision between that usage and real grease might be too low.  A different scheme with a higher risk of collision might avoid accidents that might ultimately render greasing ineffective.</p>

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Closes #4385.
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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4385.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="744811318" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4385" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4385/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4385">#4385</a>.</p>

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And cite RFC 7120 for how that can be assigned.

Closes #4378.
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<p>And cite RFC 7120 for how that can be assigned.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4378.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="744441319" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4378" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4378/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4378">#4378</a>.</p>

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I think that this is a good plan.  I've created #4389 for that.  This says that the first *available* codepoint is reserved for Standards Action.  I've also pointed to 7120, which was always the intended process (I was just lazy about finding and citing it).

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<p>I think that this is a good plan.  I've created <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="745180305" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4389" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4389/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4389">#4389</a> for that.  This says that the first <em>available</em> codepoint is reserved for Standards Action.  I've also pointed to 7120, which was always the intended process (I was just lazy about finding and citing it).</p>

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Can we put that in the draft then?

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Rather than enumerate all the ways in which processing rules might have
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I don't want to go to SHOULD.  Because for other packet types, MUST is what we want.  And finding and creating exceptions is impossible.  So I have added a "this permission overrides rules that mandate a connection error".

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<p>I don't want to go to SHOULD.  Because for other packet types, MUST is what we want.  And finding and creating exceptions is impossible.  So I have added a "this permission overrides rules that mandate a connection error".</p>

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@kazuho approved this pull request.

I think what @martinthomson says makes sense. This is a "MUST unless" however we cannot have that stated at every point. Having a catch-all statement makes sense.

I tend to wonder if the catch-all statement should be in the Protected Packets section or in the Error Handling section, but the PR looks good regardless.



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<p><b>@kazuho</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>I think what <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a> says makes sense. This is a "MUST unless" however we cannot have that stated at every point. Having a catch-all statement makes sense.</p>
<p>I tend to wonder if the catch-all statement should be in the Protected Packets section or in the Error Handling section, but the PR looks good regardless.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/iana-next-rfc7120
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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That's a good suggestion.  I moved it.  Then it is more likely to be seen.

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Note that the language here has already changed since the last draft to say that these values must not be registered.

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<p>Note that the language here has already changed since the last draft to say that these values must not be registered.</p>

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> @@ -718,9 +723,12 @@ closure of the request stream with this error code.
 
 If a stream is canceled after receiving a complete response, the client MAY

Streams are reset, requests are cancelled, right?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4383#discussion_r525411690">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
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Because it always is.

Closes #4347.
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  * It&#39;s PROTOCOL_VIOLATION

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<p>Because it always is.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4347.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="740367509" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4347" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4347/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4347">#4347</a>.</p>

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@kazu-yamamoto, the proposal here is to allow discarding only for Initial.  Other types are effectively authenticated*.

\* Handshake might not be confirmed in the sense that you have key confirmation and peer authentication, but I can't imagine anyone attempting to do anything other than abort if an attacker gets that far).

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<p>* Handshake might not be confirmed in the sense that you have key confirmation and peer authentication, but I can't imagine anyone attempting to do anything other than abort if an attacker gets that far).</p>

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Closes #4361.
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4391

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  * Packets can&#39;t be zero-length

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (8)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4361.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="744304962" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4361" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4361/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4361">#4361</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Packets can&#39;t be zero-length</li>
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-18 (Wed, 18 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  It's PROTOCOL_VIOLATION

Because it always is.

Closes #4347.


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  Merge pull request #4390 from quicwg/of-what

It's PROTOCOL_VIOLATION


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> @@ -7328,12 +7328,12 @@ permanent registrations.
 
 The creation of a registry MAY identify a range of codepoints where
 registrations are governed by a different registration policy.  For instance,
-the registries for 62-bit codepoints in this document have stricter policies for
-codepoints in the range from 0 to 63.
+the frame type registry in {{iana-frames}} has a stricter policy for codepoints

The transport error also have this range, but then have an additional range so I think this text need tweaking. 

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4388#discussion_r525818007">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7328,12 +7328,12 @@ permanent registrations.
 
 The creation of a registry MAY identify a range of codepoints where
 registrations are governed by a different registration policy.  For instance,
-the registries for 62-bit codepoints in this document have stricter policies for
-codepoints in the range from 0 to 63.
+the frame type registry in {{iana-frames}} has a stricter policy for codepoints
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<p>The transport error also have this range, but then have an additional range so I think this text need tweaking.</p>

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@theri requested changes on this pull request.

Thank you, this is already helpful. I would like the text to be yet a bit more explicit, see my suggestions.

Also, could you add another reference to {{errors}} where you first mention error codes, i.e., after "error code H3_REQUEST_INCOMPLETE" in Section 4.1 (at the bottom of page 12 in -32), please?

> -indicate a problem with the connection or either implementation.  For example, a
-stream can be reset if the requested resource is no longer needed.
+When a stream cannot be completed successfully, QUIC allows the application to
+abruptly terminate (reset) that stream and communicate a reason; see Section 2.4
+of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. This is referred to as a "stream error."  Stream errors
+are distinct from HTTP status codes which indicate error conditions.  Stream
+errors indicate that the sender did not transfer the full request or response,
+while HTTP status codes indicate the result of a request that was successfully
+received.
+
+If an entire connection needs to be terminated, QUIC similarly provides
+mechanisms to communicate a reason; see Section 5.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  This
+is referred to as a "connection error."
+
+Both stream errors and connection errors have associated error codes; see
+Section 11 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  However, they do not necessarily indicate a

They are called error codes here, but refered to as "error of type H3_..." throughout the document.
If "error code" and "error type" are indeed the same concept, please consider unifying your terminology, e.g., changing "error of type H3_..." to "error using error code H3_...".

> @@ -1638,16 +1645,27 @@ H3_FRAME_UNEXPECTED.
 
 # Error Handling {#errors}
 
-QUIC allows the application to abruptly terminate (reset) individual streams or
-the entire connection; see Sections 2.4 and 5.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  These
-are referred to as "stream errors" or "connection errors" (see Section 11 of
-{{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) and have associated error codes, but do not necessarily
-indicate a problem with the connection or either implementation.  For example, a
-stream can be reset if the requested resource is no longer needed.
+When a stream cannot be completed successfully, QUIC allows the application to
+abruptly terminate (reset) that stream and communicate a reason; see Section 2.4
+of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. This is referred to as a "stream error."  Stream errors

```suggestion
of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. This is referred to as a "stream error." An HTTP/3 implementation can deciding to close a QUIC stream and communicate the reason using an error code as defined in Section 8.1 of this document. Stream errors
```
I would like the text to be very explicit about where/how the error code comes in, i.e., it is the reason being communicated by the application, which, in this case, is the HTTP/3 implementation.

> -the entire connection; see Sections 2.4 and 5.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  These
-are referred to as "stream errors" or "connection errors" (see Section 11 of
-{{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}) and have associated error codes, but do not necessarily
-indicate a problem with the connection or either implementation.  For example, a
-stream can be reset if the requested resource is no longer needed.
+When a stream cannot be completed successfully, QUIC allows the application to
+abruptly terminate (reset) that stream and communicate a reason; see Section 2.4
+of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. This is referred to as a "stream error."  Stream errors
+are distinct from HTTP status codes which indicate error conditions.  Stream
+errors indicate that the sender did not transfer the full request or response,
+while HTTP status codes indicate the result of a request that was successfully
+received.
+
+If an entire connection needs to be terminated, QUIC similarly provides
+mechanisms to communicate a reason; see Section 5.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  This
+is referred to as a "connection error."

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is referred to as a "connection error." Similar to stream errors, the HTTP/3 implementation can terminate a QUIC connection and communicate the reason using an error code defined in Section 8.1.
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  Branch: refs/heads/eight-minimum
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  Date:   2020-11-18 (Wed, 18 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

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> -indicate a problem with the connection or either implementation.  For example, a
-stream can be reset if the requested resource is no longer needed.
+When a stream cannot be completed successfully, QUIC allows the application to
+abruptly terminate (reset) that stream and communicate a reason; see Section 2.4
+of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. This is referred to as a "stream error."  Stream errors
+are distinct from HTTP status codes which indicate error conditions.  Stream
+errors indicate that the sender did not transfer the full request or response,
+while HTTP status codes indicate the result of a request that was successfully
+received.
+
+If an entire connection needs to be terminated, QUIC similarly provides
+mechanisms to communicate a reason; see Section 5.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  This
+is referred to as a "connection error."
+
+Both stream errors and connection errors have associated error codes; see
+Section 11 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  However, they do not necessarily indicate a

I think there's a better alternative. In the paragraph that introduces stream errors, state that there can be multiple variants of "reason", described by an error type, which has an associated wire encoding error code. Do the same for the para that introduces connection errors.

Then delete the first sentence of this para and possibly merge it with the next one.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4384#discussion_r525895261">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -indicate a problem with the connection or either implementation.  For example, a
-stream can be reset if the requested resource is no longer needed.
+When a stream cannot be completed successfully, QUIC allows the application to
+abruptly terminate (reset) that stream and communicate a reason; see Section 2.4
+of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. This is referred to as a &quot;stream error.&quot;  Stream errors
+are distinct from HTTP status codes which indicate error conditions.  Stream
+errors indicate that the sender did not transfer the full request or response,
+while HTTP status codes indicate the result of a request that was successfully
+received.
+
+If an entire connection needs to be terminated, QUIC similarly provides
+mechanisms to communicate a reason; see Section 5.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  This
+is referred to as a &quot;connection error.&quot;
+
+Both stream errors and connection errors have associated error codes; see
+Section 11 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  However, they do not necessarily indicate a
</pre>
<p>I think there's a better alternative. In the paragraph that introduces stream errors, state that there can be multiple variants of "reason", described by an error type, which has an associated wire encoding error code. Do the same for the para that introduces connection errors.</p>
<p>Then delete the first sentence of this para and possibly merge it with the next one.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/http/terminology
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  Changed paths:
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Fixes #4371.
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    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (2)

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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4371.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="744434723" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4371" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4371/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4371">#4371</a>.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/http/how_errors_work
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/00096ebbc2c0c431ec5ceaa452a9915a10669e39
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-18 (Wed, 18 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

  Log Message:
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> -indicate a problem with the connection or either implementation.  For example, a
-stream can be reset if the requested resource is no longer needed.
+When a stream cannot be completed successfully, QUIC allows the application to
+abruptly terminate (reset) that stream and communicate a reason; see Section 2.4
+of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. This is referred to as a "stream error."  Stream errors
+are distinct from HTTP status codes which indicate error conditions.  Stream
+errors indicate that the sender did not transfer the full request or response,
+while HTTP status codes indicate the result of a request that was successfully
+received.
+
+If an entire connection needs to be terminated, QUIC similarly provides
+mechanisms to communicate a reason; see Section 5.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  This
+is referred to as a "connection error."
+
+Both stream errors and connection errors have associated error codes; see
+Section 11 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  However, they do not necessarily indicate a

@LPardue, I've taken part of your idea and tried to use it to improve the terminology.  PTAL.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4384#discussion_r525953040">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -indicate a problem with the connection or either implementation.  For example, a
-stream can be reset if the requested resource is no longer needed.
+When a stream cannot be completed successfully, QUIC allows the application to
+abruptly terminate (reset) that stream and communicate a reason; see Section 2.4
+of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}. This is referred to as a &quot;stream error.&quot;  Stream errors
+are distinct from HTTP status codes which indicate error conditions.  Stream
+errors indicate that the sender did not transfer the full request or response,
+while HTTP status codes indicate the result of a request that was successfully
+received.
+
+If an entire connection needs to be terminated, QUIC similarly provides
+mechanisms to communicate a reason; see Section 5.3 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  This
+is referred to as a &quot;connection error.&quot;
+
+Both stream errors and connection errors have associated error codes; see
+Section 11 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  However, they do not necessarily indicate a
</pre>
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  Packets can't be zero-length

Closes #4361.


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  Merge pull request #4391 from quicwg/eight-minimum

Packets can't be zero-length


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> @@ -7328,12 +7328,12 @@ permanent registrations.
 
 The creation of a registry MAY identify a range of codepoints where
 registrations are governed by a different registration policy.  For instance,
-the registries for 62-bit codepoints in this document have stricter policies for
-codepoints in the range from 0 to 63.
+the frame type registry in {{iana-frames}} has a stricter policy for codepoints

Not sure that I follow.  Frame types have a stricter policy for 0..=63.  I don't see why would need to talk about the other ~2^62 values.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4388#discussion_r525995683">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7328,12 +7328,12 @@ permanent registrations.
 
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<p>Not sure that I follow.  Frame types have a stricter policy for 0..=63.  I don't see why would need to talk about the other ~2^62 values.</p>

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I'm OK with discarding only Initial.

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> @@ -2026,6 +2026,8 @@ The "h3" string identifies HTTP/3:
 New registries created in this document operate under the QUIC registration
 policy documented in Section 22.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  These registries all
 include the common set of fields listed in Section 22.1.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.
+These registries \[SHALL be/are] collected under a "Hypertext Transfer Protocol

Is `\[SHALL be/are]` form language?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4392#discussion_r526540803">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2026,6 +2026,8 @@ The &quot;h3&quot; string identifies HTTP/3:
 New registries created in this document operate under the QUIC registration
 policy documented in Section 22.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  These registries all
 include the common set of fields listed in Section 22.1.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.
+These registries \[SHALL be/are] collected under a &quot;Hypertext Transfer Protocol
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<p>Is <code>\[SHALL be/are]</code> form language?</p>

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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

Thanks for the new text, @martinthomson -- this is good.



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<p>Thanks for the new text, <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a> -- this is good.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-17 (Tue, 17 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md

  Log Message:
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  Discarding an invalid Initial is allowed

But we managed to hide that in the security considerations.

Closes #4350.


  Commit: 570ab07f134812e70b56a9c5900a1db98ba867ab
      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/570ab07f134812e70b56a9c5900a1db98ba867ab
  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-18 (Wed, 18 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  This overrides other requirements

Rather than enumerate all the ways in which processing rules might have
exceptions for Initial packets, just include a blanket override here.


  Commit: 79e0514de77260009c7d25c945a4ec56266b259c
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  Date:   2020-11-18 (Wed, 18 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Move to Connection Error section


  Commit: ce1ab85944e7b60a56b34e5c5f33aa7a46247299
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  Date:   2020-11-18 (Wed, 18 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Merge pull request #4359 from quicwg/drop-initial

Discarding an invalid Initial is allowed


Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/da335fcc0f20...ce1ab85944e7


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  Stop using "may"

In most cases, this turned out to be the wrong word anyway.

There is "can", which is a simple statement of fact.  There is "could",
for stating that something is possible.  There is "MAY", once, which
might be wrong.  There is also cases where the word wasn't needed at
all.

I know that "may" is used in all of these cases in the strictly
colloquial sense, with no normative intent, but it is a tiny bit
distracting.


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  Merge pull request #4360 from quicwg/may-day

Stop using "may"


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Merged #4360 into master.

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@theri approved this pull request.

Looks good to me, thanks!



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c363d2dfd5fc2e595bc6fe24972073c42a16fe47  Merge branch 'master' into fix-transport-19.7


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  s/endpoint/client/ because only a server can send NEW_TOKEN.


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transport 19.7: better wordings for new_token


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  Reserve just one value for standards action

And cite RFC 7120 for how that can be assigned.

Closes #4378.


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  Merge pull request #4389 from quicwg/iana-next-rfc7120

Reserve just one value for standards action


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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

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> @@ -1852,7 +1871,7 @@ they are used unnecessarily or to excess.
 An endpoint that does not monitor this behavior exposes itself to a risk of
 denial-of-service attack.  Implementations SHOULD track the use of these
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The text in [Section 5.6 of the TLS draft](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#name-use-of-0-rtt-keys) is wrong.  Subtly, but distinctly.

This seems fairly direct about idempotency being the benchmark.  However, that is not consistent with [RFC 8470](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8470#section-4), which goes further than idempotency and strongly recommends that only safe methods be used.

This will result in a substantive change.  @britram should be aware that this will also result in applicability doc changes also.

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<p>The text in <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#name-use-of-0-rtt-keys" rel="nofollow">Section 5.6 of the TLS draft</a> is wrong.  Subtly, but distinctly.</p>
<p>This seems fairly direct about idempotency being the benchmark.  However, that is not consistent with <a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8470#section-4" rel="nofollow">RFC 8470</a>, which goes further than idempotency and strongly recommends that only safe methods be used.</p>
<p>This will result in a substantive change.  <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/britram/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/britram">@britram</a> should be aware that this will also result in applicability doc changes also.</p>

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This was wrong.  Idempotency is not the standard we use to determine
whether something is safe to send in 0-RTT.

RFC 8470 has a lot more subtlety to it than just saying "be idempotent".
The recommendation there is for _safe_ methods only.

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This captures the outcome of an older analysis I did.  Basically, if a replay is attempted, you get a new connection attempt.  Only the application data that is processed at that time is a risk.

Also, all protocols need a profile that describes how to use 0-RTT, otherwise it can only be used for QUIC things.  Like NEW_CONNECTION_ID (I&#39;m struggling to think of anything else that might reasonably go here).

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<p>This captures the outcome of an older analysis I did.  Basically, if a replay is attempted, you get a new connection attempt.  Only the application data that is processed at that time is a risk.</p>
<p>Also, all protocols need a profile that describes how to use 0-RTT, otherwise it can only be used for QUIC things.  Like NEW_CONNECTION_ID (I'm struggling to think of anything else that might reasonably go here).</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4393.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="746246544" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4393" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4393/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4393">#4393</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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> @@ -1276,10 +1276,30 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, only the STREAM frame is
+potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as it carries application data.

Let me nitpick, as you seem to be wondering about frames that might have issues.

I think that this sentence is slightly incorrect. There are other frames that also carry application data. Specifically, CONNECTION_CLOSE (type 0x1d) and RESET_STREAM carry information defined by the application, and we do not require the integers carried by those frames to be replay-safe. See #3440.

I think we should either discuss about "application data" in general, or name the three frames (STREAM, RESET_STREAM, CONNECTION_CLOSE (type 0x1d)) that carry information defined by the application.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394#discussion_r526625013">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1276,10 +1276,30 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, only the STREAM frame is
+potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as it carries application data.
</pre>
<p>Let me nitpick, as you seem to be wondering about frames that might have issues.</p>
<p>I think that this sentence is slightly incorrect. There are other frames that also carry application data. Specifically, CONNECTION_CLOSE (type 0x1d) and RESET_STREAM carry information defined by the application, and we do not require the integers carried by those frames to be replay-safe. See <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="561091342" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3440" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3440/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3440">#3440</a>.</p>
<p>I think we should either discuss about "application data" in general, or name the three frames (STREAM, RESET_STREAM, CONNECTION_CLOSE (type 0x1d)) that carry information defined by the application.</p>

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> @@ -1276,10 +1276,30 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, only the STREAM frame is
+potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as it carries application data.

Excellent point.  Will amend.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394#discussion_r526657313">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1276,10 +1276,30 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, only the STREAM frame is
+potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as it carries application data.
</pre>
<p>Excellent point.  Will amend.</p>

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@kazuho approved this pull request.

Thank you for the changes. LGTM modulo one editorial nitpick.

> @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they can

```suggestion
CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they
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The three frames are defined to carry application data, I think.

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> @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
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-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they can

I was thinking about the transport-layer CONNECTION_CLOSE.  Maybe that doesn't matter.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394#discussion_r526663289">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
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  Branch: refs/heads/idempotent-not
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2020-11-19 (Thu, 19 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md

  Log Message:
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  they do, not they can

Co-authored-by: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>



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> @@ -2026,6 +2026,8 @@ The "h3" string identifies HTTP/3:
 New registries created in this document operate under the QUIC registration
 policy documented in Section 22.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.  These registries all
 include the common set of fields listed in Section 22.1.1 of {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}.
+These registries \[SHALL be/are] collected under a "Hypertext Transfer Protocol

Basically invites the RFC editor to change it to "are" in the final document, but for the time being, it's a direction to IANA rather than a statement of fact.  Transport does the same, IIRC.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4392#discussion_r526684828">draft-ietf-quic-http.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -2026,6 +2026,8 @@ The &quot;h3&quot; string identifies HTTP/3:
 New registries created in this document operate under the QUIC registration
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+These registries \[SHALL be/are] collected under a &quot;Hypertext Transfer Protocol
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<p>Basically invites the RFC editor to change it to "are" in the final document, but for the time being, it's a direction to IANA rather than a statement of fact.  Transport does the same, IIRC.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/recharter
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      https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/commit/cb29d99a4cc77a119fe1b9dcb32ee738c6f4859c
  Author: Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-11-19 (Thu, 19 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  Wordsmithing (#182)



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> -MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they
+carry application data.  Application data that is received in 0-RTT could cause
+an application at the server to process the data multiple times rather than
+just once. Additional actions taken by a server as a result of processing
+replayed application data could have unwanted consequences. A client therefore
+MUST only use 0-RTT for application data that is permitted by the application
+that is in use.
+
+An application protocol that uses QUIC MUST include a profile that defines
+acceptable use of 0-RTT; otherwise, 0-RTT can only be used to carry QUIC frames
+that do not carry application data. For example, a profile for HTTP is
+described in {{?HTTP-REPLAY=RFC8740}}.

Suggest rephrasing MUST since there is a way out in not using 0-RTT. For example, if an application is connecting over QUIC 0-RTT, the application protocol MUST ...

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<p><b>@mikkelfj</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394#discussion_r526731319">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they
+carry application data.  Application data that is received in 0-RTT could cause
+an application at the server to process the data multiple times rather than
+just once. Additional actions taken by a server as a result of processing
+replayed application data could have unwanted consequences. A client therefore
+MUST only use 0-RTT for application data that is permitted by the application
+that is in use.
+
+An application protocol that uses QUIC MUST include a profile that defines
+acceptable use of 0-RTT; otherwise, 0-RTT can only be used to carry QUIC frames
+that do not carry application data. For example, a profile for HTTP is
+described in {{?HTTP-REPLAY=RFC8740}}.
</pre>
<p>Suggest rephrasing MUST since there is a way out in not using 0-RTT. For example, if an application is connecting over QUIC 0-RTT, the application protocol MUST ...</p>

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I think I can clarify this aspect. What IANA is asking for is what text should be included in the registry as additional instructions to the reader and registrant for values in the registry. An example of such a note exists in this registry:
https://www.iana.org/assignments/http-parameters/http-parameters.xhtml#preferences

"Note

    Registration requests should be sent to the mailing list 
    described in [RFC7240]."
       
Thus the algorithm for which values that may not be used is such a note. Other special instruction of need to be know information should be added in such notes. 

Does that help clarifying what is needed to be done here?


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<p>I think I can clarify this aspect. What IANA is asking for is what text should be included in the registry as additional instructions to the reader and registrant for values in the registry. An example of such a note exists in this registry:<br>
<a href="https://www.iana.org/assignments/http-parameters/http-parameters.xhtml#preferences" rel="nofollow">https://www.iana.org/assignments/http-parameters/http-parameters.xhtml#preferences</a></p>
<p>"Note</p>
<pre><code>Registration requests should be sent to the mailing list 
described in [RFC7240]."
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<p>Thus the algorithm for which values that may not be used is such a note. Other special instruction of need to be know information should be added in such notes.</p>
<p>Does that help clarifying what is needed to be done here?</p>

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Currently section 10.3 of the transport doc says:

> Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be valid QUIC packets. With the set of AEAD functions defined in [QUIC-TLS], packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid.

However, Version Negotiation packets are not guaranteed to be larger than 21 bytes. For example, a VN packet with an 0-byte destination connection ID, 8 byte source connection ID and single version would be 19 bytes. If a client receives such a packet, must it be dropped? This text suggests it must. But it's not clear to mean (or the slack channel) that this interpretation is expected.

Of course, a server could work around this issue by appending a sufficient number of GREASE'd versions to make the packet large enough. But I'm not sure if that is mandatory?

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<p>Currently section 10.3 of the transport doc says:</p>
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<p>Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be valid QUIC packets. With the set of AEAD functions defined in [QUIC-TLS], packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid.</p>
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<p>However, Version Negotiation packets are not guaranteed to be larger than 21 bytes. For example, a VN packet with an 0-byte destination connection ID, 8 byte source connection ID and single version would be 19 bytes. If a client receives such a packet, must it be dropped? This text suggests it must. But it's not clear to mean (or the slack channel) that this interpretation is expected.</p>
<p>Of course, a server could work around this issue by appending a sufficient number of GREASE'd versions to make the packet large enough. But I'm not sure if that is mandatory?</p>

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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

This looks sensible, but I'm unclear on why replaying RESET_STREAM and CONNECTION_CLOSE would be problematic.

> @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they

RESET_STREAM and CONNECTION_CLOSE don't really carry application data, but I guess they could impact application data being delivered or lack thereof?  I'm also a bit unclear as to how replaying a RESET_STREAM could change state?

I do find this sentence a bit odd and I'm not completely sure we need to include any frames besides STREAM.  If so, maybe providing just a bit more explanation about why would be worthwhile?

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<p><b>@ianswett</b> commented on this pull request.</p>

<p>This looks sensible, but I'm unclear on why replaying RESET_STREAM and CONNECTION_CLOSE would be problematic.</p><hr>

<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394#discussion_r527191124">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they
</pre>
<p>RESET_STREAM and CONNECTION_CLOSE don't really carry application data, but I guess they could impact application data being delivered or lack thereof?  I'm also a bit unclear as to how replaying a RESET_STREAM could change state?</p>
<p>I do find this sentence a bit odd and I'm not completely sure we need to include any frames besides STREAM.  If so, maybe providing just a bit more explanation about why would be worthwhile?</p>

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> -MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they
+carry application data.  Application data that is received in 0-RTT could cause
+an application at the server to process the data multiple times rather than
+just once. Additional actions taken by a server as a result of processing
+replayed application data could have unwanted consequences. A client therefore
+MUST only use 0-RTT for application data that is permitted by the application
+that is in use.
+
+An application protocol that uses QUIC MUST include a profile that defines
+acceptable use of 0-RTT; otherwise, 0-RTT can only be used to carry QUIC frames
+that do not carry application data. For example, a profile for HTTP is
+described in {{?HTTP-REPLAY=RFC8740}}.

I specifically chose this phrasing.  I know that prohibiting 0-RTT is a valid way to define a profile, but I think that is unnecessary for QUIC.  This would still allow that approach, but I would prefer a more nuanced profile that said "don't send application data in 0-RTT" than "don't send 0-RTT".

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394#discussion_r527260669">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; -MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they
+carry application data.  Application data that is received in 0-RTT could cause
+an application at the server to process the data multiple times rather than
+just once. Additional actions taken by a server as a result of processing
+replayed application data could have unwanted consequences. A client therefore
+MUST only use 0-RTT for application data that is permitted by the application
+that is in use.
+
+An application protocol that uses QUIC MUST include a profile that defines
+acceptable use of 0-RTT; otherwise, 0-RTT can only be used to carry QUIC frames
+that do not carry application data. For example, a profile for HTTP is
+described in {{?HTTP-REPLAY=RFC8740}}.
</pre>
<p>I specifically chose this phrasing.  I know that prohibiting 0-RTT is a valid way to define a profile, but I think that is unnecessary for QUIC.  This would still allow that approach, but I would prefer a more nuanced profile that said "don't send application data in 0-RTT" than "don't send 0-RTT".</p>

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> @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they

The error codes (and message for CONNECTION_CLOSE) carry application information that might be acted upon by an application.  It's a fine point, but worth covering.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394#discussion_r527261099">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they
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<p>The error codes (and message for CONNECTION_CLOSE) carry application information that might be acted upon by an application.  It's a fine point, but worth covering.</p>

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The second sentence merely points out that QUIC packets *that use AEAD* can never be smaller than 21 bytes.

VN packets do not use AEAD, hence that 21 byte limit does not apply. Of course, endpoints can do their own maths to figure out the minimal size of VN packets that they might receive.

Just my two cents. We might want to clarify the italic part ("that use AEAD") in the specification.

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<p>The second sentence merely points out that QUIC packets <em>that use AEAD</em> can never be smaller than 21 bytes.</p>
<p>VN packets do not use AEAD, hence that 21 byte limit does not apply. Of course, endpoints can do their own maths to figure out the minimal size of VN packets that they might receive.</p>
<p>Just my two cents. We might want to clarify the italic part ("that use AEAD") in the specification.</p>

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I agree with @kazuho that the spec isn't technically wrong, but I find it unclear. It wouldn't surprise me if someone were to read this and add `IF packet.length < 21 THEN DROP` to their packet ingestion code. I think all we need here is an editorial clarification such as `Note that version negotiation packets do not use AEAD and can therefore be smaller that 21 bytes.`

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I'm not sure if 21 is correct. Isn't it 20 for 1-RTT packets; i.e. 1 (header) + 0 (CID) + 1 (PN) + 1 (frame) + 16 (AEAD tag)?

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Minimum packet size varies between the packet types (and other things like the length of CID being used). Therefore, the sentence is merely providing an example, and should be stated as such.

Closes #4395, though I am not sure if 21 is the correct number.
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  * talk about examples, as minimum valid size differs between packet types and the CIDs being used

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<p>Minimum packet size varies between the packet types (and other things like the length of CID being used). Therefore, the sentence is merely providing an example, and should be stated as such.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4395.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="746920754" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4395" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4395/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4395">#4395</a>, though I am not sure if 21 is the correct number.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>talk about examples, as minimum valid size differs between packet types and the CIDs being used</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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For Facebook, we have never used a draft version for our traffic. Our strategy is that we use different versions that are essentially aliases to draft versions. So far that has consisted of:

0xfaceb000 (variously draft-9 or draft-17)
0xfaceb001 (draft-24)
0xfaceb002 (draft-27)
0xfaceb00e-f (experimental versions)

Since old clients take a while to upgrade, we support the -1 version for a few months before just disabling it and letting clients fallback to TCP. As for why we do this, it's because we want to retain control over mvfst <-> mvfst interactions without potentially messing up public clients. In the future I think we'd plan on keeping with this strategy and moving forward e.g. to 0xfaceb003 next time we want to iterate the version.

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<p>For Facebook, we have never used a draft version for our traffic. Our strategy is that we use different versions that are essentially aliases to draft versions. So far that has consisted of:</p>
<p>0xfaceb000 (variously draft-9 or draft-17)<br>
0xfaceb001 (draft-24)<br>
0xfaceb002 (draft-27)<br>
0xfaceb00e-f (experimental versions)</p>
<p>Since old clients take a while to upgrade, we support the -1 version for a few months before just disabling it and letting clients fallback to TCP. As for why we do this, it's because we want to retain control over mvfst &lt;-&gt; mvfst interactions without potentially messing up public clients. In the future I think we'd plan on keeping with this strategy and moving forward e.g. to 0xfaceb003 next time we want to iterate the version.</p>

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While the transport draft talks a lot about "1-RTT packets", the term is not defined. We also have a sentence that seem to imply that a long-header variant of 1-RTT packets might exist (https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-7.1-4).

We refer to the packet less frequently as "short header packets" or "packet with a short header."

As a resolution, I think we might want to change the title of section 17.3 from "Short Header Packets" to "1-RTT Packets". Rest of the text can remain the same, as the first sentence of that section says that it is the only type of short header packet that we define.

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<p>While the transport draft talks a lot about "1-RTT packets", the term is not defined. We also have a sentence that seem to imply that a long-header variant of 1-RTT packets might exist (<a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-7.1-4" rel="nofollow">https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-7.1-4</a>).</p>
<p>We refer to the packet less frequently as "short header packets" or "packet with a short header."</p>
<p>As a resolution, I think we might want to change the title of section 17.3 from "Short Header Packets" to "1-RTT Packets". Rest of the text can remain the same, as the first sentence of that section says that it is the only type of short header packet that we define.</p>

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> @@ -3056,9 +3056,9 @@ An endpoint MUST NOT send a stateless reset that is three times or more larger
 than the packet it receives to avoid being used for amplification.
 {{reset-looping}} describes additional limits on stateless reset size.
 
-Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be valid QUIC packets.
-With the set of AEAD functions defined in {{QUIC-TLS}}, packets that are smaller
-than 21 bytes are never valid.
+Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be valid QUIC packets.  To
+give an example, with the set of AEAD functions defined in {{QUIC-TLS}}, short
+header packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid.

I like this new text, but I think we need to be explicit about what the minimum length is for long headers (including VN).

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4396#discussion_r527290939">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -3056,9 +3056,9 @@ An endpoint MUST NOT send a stateless reset that is three times or more larger
 than the packet it receives to avoid being used for amplification.
 {{reset-looping}} describes additional limits on stateless reset size.
 
-Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be valid QUIC packets.
-With the set of AEAD functions defined in {{QUIC-TLS}}, packets that are smaller
-than 21 bytes are never valid.
+Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be valid QUIC packets.  To
+give an example, with the set of AEAD functions defined in {{QUIC-TLS}}, short
+header packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid.
</pre>
<p>I like this new text, but I think we need to be explicit about what the minimum length is for long headers (including VN).</p>

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

Thanks Kazuho, this is great.

What I like about this is that it also implies the possibility of a higher minimum.  For instance, the limit on long headers is higher (28 for Initial, 27 for 0-RTT and handshake if I'm right, but you can also add the minimum connection ID length for receiving to that).



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<p><b>@martinthomson</b> approved this pull request.</p>

<p>Thanks Kazuho, this is great.</p>
<p>What I like about this is that it also implies the possibility of a higher minimum.  For instance, the limit on long headers is higher (28 for Initial, 27 for 0-RTT and handshake if I'm right, but you can also add the minimum connection ID length for receiving to that).</p>

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> @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they
+carry application data.  Application data that is received in 0-RTT could cause
+an application at the server to process the data multiple times rather than
+just once. Additional actions taken by a server as a result of processing
+replayed application data could have unwanted consequences. A client therefore
+MUST only use 0-RTT for application data that is permitted by the application
+that is in use.

Do we want to have QUIC 0-RTT data and TLS 0-RTT data treated as equivalent for the purposes of being allowed by an application profile?  For example, the next paragraph cites RFC 8470 for HTTP 0-RTT data, but as written that document covers only TLS and not QUIC.
(AFAICT the security properties are the same so there shouldn't be a problem with letting "0-RTT" apply to both raw TLS and QUIC, but it seems like we should consciously choose to do that instead of implicitly doing it.)

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394#discussion_r527296076">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they
+carry application data.  Application data that is received in 0-RTT could cause
+an application at the server to process the data multiple times rather than
+just once. Additional actions taken by a server as a result of processing
+replayed application data could have unwanted consequences. A client therefore
+MUST only use 0-RTT for application data that is permitted by the application
+that is in use.
</pre>
<p>Do we want to have QUIC 0-RTT data and TLS 0-RTT data treated as equivalent for the purposes of being allowed by an application profile?  For example, the next paragraph cites RFC 8470 for HTTP 0-RTT data, but as written that document covers only TLS and not QUIC.<br>
(AFAICT the security properties are the same so there shouldn't be a problem with letting "0-RTT" apply to both raw TLS and QUIC, but it seems like we should consciously choose to do that instead of implicitly doing it.)</p>

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> @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they
+carry application data.  Application data that is received in 0-RTT could cause
+an application at the server to process the data multiple times rather than
+just once. Additional actions taken by a server as a result of processing
+replayed application data could have unwanted consequences. A client therefore
+MUST only use 0-RTT for application data that is permitted by the application
+that is in use.

I think that it is OK that we treat HTTP/3 differently to HTTP/2, even if the underlying principles are the same.

It is relatively trivial for a protocol that is ported to QUIC to reuse guidance from TCP versions, as [HTTP/3 does in Section 10.9](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-http.html#name-early-data).

Citing 8470 isn't perfect, as you say, because that means we are citing something that addresses TCP, so maybe I should acknowledge that directly.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394#discussion_r527303214">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they
+carry application data.  Application data that is received in 0-RTT could cause
+an application at the server to process the data multiple times rather than
+just once. Additional actions taken by a server as a result of processing
+replayed application data could have unwanted consequences. A client therefore
+MUST only use 0-RTT for application data that is permitted by the application
+that is in use.
</pre>
<p>I think that it is OK that we treat HTTP/3 differently to HTTP/2, even if the underlying principles are the same.</p>
<p>It is relatively trivial for a protocol that is ported to QUIC to reuse guidance from TCP versions, as <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-http.html#name-early-data" rel="nofollow">HTTP/3 does in Section 10.9</a>.</p>
<p>Citing 8470 isn't perfect, as you say, because that means we are citing something that addresses TCP, so maybe I should acknowledge that directly.</p>

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> @@ -3056,9 +3056,9 @@ An endpoint MUST NOT send a stateless reset that is three times or more larger
 than the packet it receives to avoid being used for amplification.
 {{reset-looping}} describes additional limits on stateless reset size.
 
-Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be valid QUIC packets.
-With the set of AEAD functions defined in {{QUIC-TLS}}, packets that are smaller
-than 21 bytes are never valid.
+Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be valid QUIC packets.  To
+give an example, with the set of AEAD functions defined in {{QUIC-TLS}}, short
+header packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid.

I'm not sure if we can provide exact limits, because the minimum valid size of packets depend on:
* packet type
* CID being used by the endpoint
* extensions being negotiated

In practice, I'd assume that endpoints do not hard-code the numbers provided here (e.g., 21), but rather try to parse the structure of the packets, and discard if they fail. Assuming that's the way people implement, it is not important to explain what the numbers are.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4396#discussion_r527324256">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -3056,9 +3056,9 @@ An endpoint MUST NOT send a stateless reset that is three times or more larger
 than the packet it receives to avoid being used for amplification.
 {{reset-looping}} describes additional limits on stateless reset size.
 
-Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be valid QUIC packets.
-With the set of AEAD functions defined in {{QUIC-TLS}}, packets that are smaller
-than 21 bytes are never valid.
+Endpoints MUST discard packets that are too small to be valid QUIC packets.  To
+give an example, with the set of AEAD functions defined in {{QUIC-TLS}}, short
+header packets that are smaller than 21 bytes are never valid.
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<p>I'm not sure if we can provide exact limits, because the minimum valid size of packets depend on:</p>
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<li>packet type</li>
<li>CID being used by the endpoint</li>
<li>extensions being negotiated</li>
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<p>In practice, I'd assume that endpoints do not hard-code the numbers provided here (e.g., 21), but rather try to parse the structure of the packets, and discard if they fail. Assuming that's the way people implement, it is not important to explain what the numbers are.</p>

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Perhaps I should have been clearer.  I think that it should be sufficient to cite the RFC (and relevant section) where the rules were established.  The rules here are sufficiently nuanced that I would not want to paraphrase them in a note.

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<p>Perhaps I should have been clearer.  I think that it should be sufficient to cite the RFC (and relevant section) where the rules were established.  The rules here are sufficiently nuanced that I would not want to paraphrase them in a note.</p>

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Magnus Nystrom [wrote](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-quic-qpack-19-secdir-lc-nystrom-2020-11-19/):
>  - The security considerations section is well written, but the attack
   scenario of "mutual distrustful parties" is unclear to me. One stated
   scenario is where multiple client connections aggregate at an intermediary
   that then maintains a single connection to an origin server. Another stated
   scenario is where multiple origin servers connect to an intermediary which
   then serves a client. In these scenarios, is the concern that the
   intermediary may control either a client or an origin server and thus would
   be able to leverage the compression context at, say, a second client and
   then observe (as the intermediary) the result of a guess for a field tuple?
   It may be helpful to explain this in a little more detail.


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<p>Magnus Nystrom <a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-quic-qpack-19-secdir-lc-nystrom-2020-11-19/" rel="nofollow">wrote</a>:</p>
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<li>The security considerations section is well written, but the attack<br>
scenario of "mutual distrustful parties" is unclear to me. One stated<br>
scenario is where multiple client connections aggregate at an intermediary<br>
that then maintains a single connection to an origin server. Another stated<br>
scenario is where multiple origin servers connect to an intermediary which<br>
then serves a client. In these scenarios, is the concern that the<br>
intermediary may control either a client or an origin server and thus would<br>
be able to leverage the compression context at, say, a second client and<br>
then observe (as the intermediary) the result of a guess for a field tuple?<br>
It may be helpful to explain this in a little more detail.</li>
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> While there are several options listed, there is also no recommendation
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> - For Section 7.5, is it intended to communicate that an attacker will
   not be able (based on no current known attack against static Huffman
   encodings) to mount the previously described "probing" attack? If so,
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encodings) to mount the previously described "probing" attack? If so,<br>
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This is the second paragraph of the question which is #4399; closing as a duplicate and moving this paragraph over there.

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Hello all!

It seems that 094b7958 updated references for the template dependency by changing `master` to `main` in links pointing to its repository. But in doing so, the link to your repository&#39;s `CONTRIBUTING.md` guidelines file was changed as well, while the `main` branch does not exist, `master` is the correct one. This fixes this minor detail.

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-- Commit Summary --

  * Fix README link to CONTRIBUTING guidelines

-- File Changes --

    M README.md (2)

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<p>Hello all!</p>
<p>It seems that <a class="commit-link" data-hovercard-type="commit" data-hovercard-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/094b795885cc068f61357a34cc1b6334d8a87bac/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/094b795885cc068f61357a34cc1b6334d8a87bac"><tt>094b795</tt></a> updated references for the template dependency by changing <code>master</code> to <code>main</code> in links pointing to its repository. But in doing so, the link to your repository's <code>CONTRIBUTING.md</code> guidelines file was changed as well, while the <code>main</code> branch does not exist, <code>master</code> is the correct one. This fixes this minor detail.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br>
Paul.</p>

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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4402'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4402</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Fix README link to CONTRIBUTING guidelines</li>
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<h4>File Changes</h4>
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    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4402/files#diff-b335630551682c19a781afebcf4d07bf978fb1f8ac04c6bf87428ed5106870f5">README.md</a>
    (2)
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4402.diff'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4402.diff</a></li>
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Hello again!

We are currently in an effort of implementing QUIC in the [Scapy](https://github.com/secdev/scapy) packet manipulation library. While doing so, we&#39;ve had a few moments of doubts as to what was the intention or simply the true meaning behind various parts of the specification. One of them was the first sentence of the appendix A.1. of the QUIC-TLS draft: it lead us to think that the results listed below were the output of the `HKDF-Expand-label` function instead of the labels built during its execution and then given to `HKDF-Expand` to obtain the final result.

This PR thus proposes a small change in order to remove any possible ambiguity from that first sentence. If you have any remark or suggestion regarding typos, grammar, wording or additional clarifications required, please let us know.

Hope it helps.
Cheers,
Paul.
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  * Clarify labels example in Appendix A.1.

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    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (3)

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<p>Hello again!</p>
<p>We are currently in an effort of implementing QUIC in the <a href="https://github.com/secdev/scapy">Scapy</a> packet manipulation library. While doing so, we've had a few moments of doubts as to what was the intention or simply the true meaning behind various parts of the specification. One of them was the first sentence of the appendix A.1. of the QUIC-TLS draft: it lead us to think that the results listed below were the output of the <code>HKDF-Expand-label</code> function instead of the labels built during its execution and then given to <code>HKDF-Expand</code> to obtain the final result.</p>
<p>This PR thus proposes a small change in order to remove any possible ambiguity from that first sentence. If you have any remark or suggestion regarding typos, grammar, wording or additional clarifications required, please let us know.</p>
<p>Hope it helps.<br>
Cheers,<br>
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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Clarify labels example in Appendix A.1.</li>
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Yep, overzealous `sed` I suspect.  The build failure is not related to this change.

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Fix README link to CONTRIBUTING guidelines

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  Clarify labels example in Appendix A.1.

Remove any possible ambiguity from the first sentence of the A.1.
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  Merge pull request #4403 from PaulDance/clarify-labels-example

Clarify labels example in -tls Appendix A.1.


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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/6d98bc1e8def477b9bce489703e01ce82edbf417
  Author: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
  Date:   2020-11-20 (Fri, 20 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
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  talk about examples, as minimum valid size differs between packet types and the CIDs being used


  Commit: e1d887346d8998b05c499a8690dc2d2787dbba85
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  Merge pull request #4396 from kazuho/kazuho/smallest-valid-packet

minimum valid packet size is an example


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Hello gentlemen!

The header protection sampling (HPS) is quite simple, as it is just selecting 16 bytes out of the encrypted payload, but we think the current description is really confusing.

Indeed, section 5.4.2 explains the process with pseudocodes computing an offset relative to the beginning of an entire packet which payload is the encrypted one. However, when applying the AEAD function, one cannot do it in-place, so additional allocation must be reserved in any case. Therefore, one most probably has access to the encrypted payload separately from the unprotected packet, headers and payload.

Thus, this PR proposes two things, split in different commits:
 * Clearly and explicitly specify the two already-existing pseudocodes sample from an entire packet.
 * Add another pseudocode explaining how the sampling can be achieved for both short-header and long-header packets.

We have not changed or removed any existing content however, as we believe this draft could use some more explanations and clarifications here and there, rather than less with confusing elements, even if it means a bit of duplication.

Please tell us if there is any form of typo, wrong wording, grammatical issue or just general mistake, especially concerning the new pseudocode.

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Paul.
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  * Add paragraph explaining `packet` in 5.4.2 HPS
  * Add pseudocode explaining HPS relative to ciphertext

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<p>Hello gentlemen!</p>
<p>The header protection sampling (HPS) is quite simple, as it is just selecting 16 bytes out of the encrypted payload, but we think the current description is really confusing.</p>
<p>Indeed, section 5.4.2 explains the process with pseudocodes computing an offset relative to the beginning of an entire packet which payload is the encrypted one. However, when applying the AEAD function, one cannot do it in-place, so additional allocation must be reserved in any case. Therefore, one most probably has access to the encrypted payload separately from the unprotected packet, headers and payload.</p>
<p>Thus, this PR proposes two things, split in different commits:</p>
<ul>
<li>Clearly and explicitly specify the two already-existing pseudocodes sample from an entire packet.</li>
<li>Add another pseudocode explaining how the sampling can be achieved for both short-header and long-header packets.</li>
</ul>
<p>We have not changed or removed any existing content however, as we believe this draft could use some more explanations and clarifications here and there, rather than less with confusing elements, even if it means a bit of duplication.</p>
<p>Please tell us if there is any form of typo, wrong wording, grammatical issue or just general mistake, especially concerning the new pseudocode.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.<br>
Cheers,<br>
Paul.</p>

<hr>

<h4>You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:</h4>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4404'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4404</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
<ul>
  <li>Add paragraph explaining `packet` in 5.4.2 HPS</li>
  <li>Add pseudocode explaining HPS relative to ciphertext</li>
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  <li><a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4404.patch'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4404.patch</a></li>
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Hey there!

We are currently implementing the Initial packet encryption process and it successfully works with the client Initial example from the appendix A.2 of the QUIC-TLS draft.

However, when running tests with values for the server Initial example from the appendix A.3, tests regarding the parsing, header sampling, mask generation, header protection and final encryption result all succeed, except for the header protection sample: the value we generate is: `56fb1381e7`, while the draft explicitly specifies it should be something completely different: `abaaf34fdc`. Note that the value we generate is indeed used later on for the header protection and final encryption result, which both reveal successful.

Therefore, three possibilities we thought of, in ascending order of probability:
 * Our implementation is completely broken.
 * The mask value provided by the current version of the specification (A.3) is correct, but all others are incorrect.
 * Only the mask value is incorrect, while the rest is correct.

We think the last option is the most probable one, as it could just mean it was forgotten to be updated in a recent draft version. If you think this is the case as well, then I would gladly open up a PR in order to close this, I just wanted to make sure beforehand. Otherwise, I would happily accept a tad of guidance towards a correct implementation.

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<p>Hey there!</p>
<p>We are currently implementing the Initial packet encryption process and it successfully works with the client Initial example from the appendix A.2 of the QUIC-TLS draft.</p>
<p>However, when running tests with values for the server Initial example from the appendix A.3, tests regarding the parsing, header sampling, mask generation, header protection and final encryption result all succeed, except for the header protection sample: the value we generate is: <code>56fb1381e7</code>, while the draft explicitly specifies it should be something completely different: <code>abaaf34fdc</code>. Note that the value we generate is indeed used later on for the header protection and final encryption result, which both reveal successful.</p>
<p>Therefore, three possibilities we thought of, in ascending order of probability:</p>
<ul>
<li>Our implementation is completely broken.</li>
<li>The mask value provided by the current version of the specification (A.3) is correct, but all others are incorrect.</li>
<li>Only the mask value is incorrect, while the rest is correct.</li>
</ul>
<p>We think the last option is the most probable one, as it could just mean it was forgotten to be updated in a recent draft version. If you think this is the case as well, then I would gladly open up a PR in order to close this, I just wanted to make sure beforehand. Otherwise, I would happily accept a tad of guidance towards a correct implementation.</p>
<p>Thanks in advance,<br>
Paul.</p>

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Investigated a bit more. Looking at the result of a `blame`, we can see that:

```blame
2ebdfd53a (Martin Thomson     2020-10-21 08:40:17 +1100 2214) sample = 823a5d24534d906ce4c76782a2167e34
6e9bfe065 (Martin Thomson     2020-06-04 14:39:25 +1000 2215) mask   = abaaf34fdc
2ebdfd53a (Martin Thomson     2020-10-21 08:40:17 +1100 2216) header = c7ff0000200008f067a5502a4262b5004075fb12
```

2ebdfd53a is indeed meant to update example vectors, while 2ebdfd53a is for other secrets, but the latter does is it completely.

```diff
 ~~~
-sample = 7002596f99ae67abf65a5852f54f58c3
-mask   = 38168a0c25
-header = c9ff00001d0008f067a5502a4262b5004074168b
+sample = 823a5d3a1207c86ee49132824f046524
+mask   = abaaf34fdc
+header = caff00001d0008f067a5502a4262b5004074aaf2
 ~~~
```

So it should confirm our hypothesis.

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<p>Investigated a bit more. Looking at the result of a <code>blame</code>, we can see that:</p>
<pre lang="blame"><code>2ebdfd53a (Martin Thomson     2020-10-21 08:40:17 +1100 2214) sample = 823a5d24534d906ce4c76782a2167e34
6e9bfe065 (Martin Thomson     2020-06-04 14:39:25 +1000 2215) mask   = abaaf34fdc
2ebdfd53a (Martin Thomson     2020-10-21 08:40:17 +1100 2216) header = c7ff0000200008f067a5502a4262b5004075fb12
</code></pre>
<p><a class="commit-link" data-hovercard-type="commit" data-hovercard-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2ebdfd53a648458539dda4d4e8b207546e135699/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2ebdfd53a648458539dda4d4e8b207546e135699"><tt>2ebdfd5</tt></a> is indeed meant to update example vectors, while <a class="commit-link" data-hovercard-type="commit" data-hovercard-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2ebdfd53a648458539dda4d4e8b207546e135699/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2ebdfd53a648458539dda4d4e8b207546e135699"><tt>2ebdfd5</tt></a> is for other secrets, but the latter does is it completely.</p>
<div class="highlight highlight-source-diff"><pre> ~~~
<span class="pl-md"><span class="pl-md">-</span>sample = 7002596f99ae67abf65a5852f54f58c3</span>
<span class="pl-md"><span class="pl-md">-</span>mask   = 38168a0c25</span>
<span class="pl-md"><span class="pl-md">-</span>header = c9ff00001d0008f067a5502a4262b5004074168b</span>
<span class="pl-mi1"><span class="pl-mi1">+</span>sample = 823a5d3a1207c86ee49132824f046524</span>
<span class="pl-mi1"><span class="pl-mi1">+</span>mask   = abaaf34fdc</span>
<span class="pl-mi1"><span class="pl-mi1">+</span>header = caff00001d0008f067a5502a4262b5004074aaf2</span>
 ~~~</pre></div>
<p>So it should confirm our hypothesis.</p>

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> @@ -7328,12 +7328,12 @@ permanent registrations.
 
 The creation of a registry MAY identify a range of codepoints where
 registrations are governed by a different registration policy.  For instance,
-the registries for 62-bit codepoints in this document have stricter policies for
-codepoints in the range from 0 to 63.
+the frame type registry in {{iana-frames}} has a stricter policy for codepoints

I agree. @gloinul ?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4388#discussion_r529977657">draft-ietf-quic-transport.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -7328,12 +7328,12 @@ permanent registrations.
 
 The creation of a registry MAY identify a range of codepoints where
 registrations are governed by a different registration policy.  For instance,
-the registries for 62-bit codepoints in this document have stricter policies for
-codepoints in the range from 0 to 63.
+the frame type registry in {{iana-frames}} has a stricter policy for codepoints
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<p>I agree. <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/gloinul/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/gloinul">@gloinul</a> ?</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/97b770e56979917761b73e5a5bd98660b385593f
  Author: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
  Date:   2020-11-24 (Tue, 24 Nov 2020)

  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-http.md

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  Rework lots of error references (#4384)

* Rework lots of error references

* Error types and codes

* Update draft-ietf-quic-http.md

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I think this one is reasonably resolved with #4345. Marking this `proposal-ready`.

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<p>I think this one is reasonably resolved with <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="739592057" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4345" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4345">#4345</a>. Marking this <code>proposal-ready</code>.</p>

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As we just discussed, my inclination is to do nothing here.  This is a RFC 6919-style REALLY SHOULD, e.g. it's not quite a MUST, but you're allowed to shoot yourself in the foot if you want.  The text already explains what endpoints should do and why, so I think we're covered.

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<p>As we just discussed, my inclination is to do nothing here.  This is a RFC 6919-style REALLY SHOULD, e.g. it's not quite a MUST, but you're allowed to shoot yourself in the foot if you want.  The text already explains what endpoints should do and why, so I think we're covered.</p>

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I am fine with keeping status quo. It is a bit complex and not ideal (as stated above, I think there is a better way), but it works, and is well-documented.

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<p>I am fine with keeping status quo. It is a bit complex and not ideal (as stated above, I think there is a better way), but it works, and is well-documented.</p>

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hi @PaulDance. Our editors are taking some slight respite, we'll respond soon.

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For server authentication, which I think is what you're getting at here, 3.2 also mentions the concept of establishing authority, but doesn't go into much detail.  I suspect the specifics of comparing a certificate should move to 3.2.  I'd appreciate suggestions for making it easier to understand.

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<p>For server authentication, which I think is what you're getting at here, 3.2 also mentions the concept of establishing authority, but doesn't go into much detail.  I suspect the specifics of comparing a certificate should move to 3.2.  I'd appreciate suggestions for making it easier to understand.</p>

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I am happy to close this with no action. Marking as proposal-ready.

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It doesn't even say that it prefers not to reuse.  It notes an explicit preference *to* reuse connections, but that's a privacy choice that clients will need to manage the trade-off for.  Individual implementations can be as aggressive about reuse or as aggressive about privacy as they want.  All this section is attempting to do is point out the trade-off.

I'm inclined to do nothing, but would welcome text suggestions.

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<p>It doesn't even say that it prefers not to reuse.  It notes an explicit preference <em>to</em> reuse connections, but that's a privacy choice that clients will need to manage the trade-off for.  Individual implementations can be as aggressive about reuse or as aggressive about privacy as they want.  All this section is attempting to do is point out the trade-off.</p>
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Given this is not any different in terms of privacy considerations as compared to h2, and unless someone can propose text that is stronger, I'm inclined to say that we leave it as is. There's not much more we can _do_ about the privacy issue here besides noting it.

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<p>Given this is not any different in terms of privacy considerations as compared to h2, and unless someone can propose text that is stronger, I'm inclined to say that we leave it as is. There's not much more we can <em>do</em> about the privacy issue here besides noting it.</p>

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The text is almost word-for-wrod what is present in HTTP/2 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7540#section-10.8. I'm happyto leave this as is.

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<p>The text is almost word-for-wrod what is present in HTTP/2 <a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7540#section-10.8" rel="nofollow">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7540#section-10.8</a>. I'm happyto leave this as is.</p>

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The version of QUIC required by this draft is always encrypted; that seems sufficient for the original issue.  @martinthomson's issue is distinct, and worth fixing.  I'll use this issue to track it.

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<p>The version of QUIC required by this draft is always encrypted; that seems sufficient for the original issue.  <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/martinthomson/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/martinthomson">@martinthomson</a>'s issue is distinct, and worth fixing.  I'll use this issue to track it.</p>

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... and we could add some text stating the integrity point in Section 1.2.
@MikeBishop suggests: "comparable integrity and confidentiality to TLS over TCP"

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<p>... and we could add some text stating the integrity point in Section 1.2.<br>
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I don't disagree on the change for QUIC, but is there an avenue to fix this in TLS?  I'm slightly uncomfortable differing from TLS in this regard, even if we're "right."

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<p>I don't disagree on the change for QUIC, but is there an avenue to fix this in TLS?  I'm slightly uncomfortable differing from TLS in this regard, even if we're "right."</p>

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I believe this would require a design change. I've not seen enough support yet to take it on board as a design issue.

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<p>I believe this would require a design change. I've not seen enough support yet to take it on board as a design issue.</p>

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Minor nit while looking at #4397; the definition of generic &quot;Long-Header Packets&quot; won&#39;t actually match any real packet types, because it ends after the CIDs.  This modifies the definition to add a final &quot;Type-Specific Payload&quot; section to the figure.
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  * Make figure match actual packet layout

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (5)

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<p>Minor nit while looking at <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="747027465" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4397" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4397/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4397">#4397</a>; the definition of generic "Long-Header Packets" won't actually match any real packet types, because it ends after the CIDs.  This modifies the definition to add a final "Type-Specific Payload" section to the figure.</p>

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Fixes #4397.
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  * Clarify that short headers and 1-RTT are 1:1
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<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4397.">Fixes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="747027465" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4397" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4397/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4397">#4397</a>.</p>

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I wonder whether changing the formula would make any practical difference. One of the motivations for Martin's message is pushback from IANA, who apparently are not too happy about having to check a formula during the registration process. But replacing the formula by a different one would not be a big relief for IANA. We also don't want to just declare ranges of code point used only for greasing, because that would defeat the idea of greasing.

I think the simplest solution is to not change the formula, but place the onus of checking it to the registrant instead of IANA. For example, if a registrant is foolish enough to ask for codepoint number 3127, IANA will just assign it, but the registration will not have much value.

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<p>I wonder whether changing the formula would make any practical difference. One of the motivations for Martin's message is pushback from IANA, who apparently are not too happy about having to check a formula during the registration process. But replacing the formula by a different one would not be a big relief for IANA. We also don't want to just declare ranges of code point used only for greasing, because that would defeat the idea of greasing.</p>
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> +This version of QUIC uses a short packet header for only 1-RTT
+packets. Additionally, 1-RTT packets in this version of QUIC can only use a
+short packet header

```suggestion
This version of QUIC only uses short packet headers for 1-RTT
packets. 1-RTT keys in this version of QUIC are only used with
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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

This looks good.  The actual changes are much smaller than the diff appears, and I think the symmetry with 17.2 helps readability despite the extra layer.

> @@ -4974,11 +4973,15 @@ in {{cid-auth}}.
 
 ## Short Header Packets {#short-header}
 
-This version of QUIC defines a single packet type that uses the
-short packet header.
+This version of QUIC defines a single packet type that uses the short packet
+header.
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+### 1-RTT Packet {#packet-1-rtt}
+
+1-RTT packets in this version of QUIC use a short packet header.

```suggestion
1-RTT packets use a short packet header.  They are used after the version
and 1-RTT keys are negotiated.
```

For parallelism with how 17.2.x phrases these.

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Lower odds of collision are a mixed blessing.

One modification to consider is making N >= 2, since that leaves all the 1 byte codepoints unused, and those are particularly valuable.

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<p>One modification to consider is making N &gt;= 2, since that leaves all the 1 byte codepoints unused, and those are particularly valuable.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/ianswett-bytes_in_flight_in_flight
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When the packet is not in_flight, return early instead of not saving the size earlier.

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  * Always save the packet size and return early

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<p>When the packet is not in_flight, return early instead of not saving the size earlier.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4408.">FIxes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="750279342" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4408" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4408/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4408">#4408</a></p>

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I see @MikeBishop's point, but it seems to me that this is a stronger constraint than TLS, not a weaker one. In that sense, I would argue that it is not at odds with TLS, even though it is different.

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@janaiyengar requested changes on this pull request.

This is an improvement; thanks for working on it! You do need to check for `in_flight` in `OnPacketsLost()` as well where `sent_bytes` is subtracted from `bytes_in_flight`.

> @@ -1740,6 +1739,8 @@ OnPacketsAcked(acked_packets):
     OnPacketAcked(acked_packet)
 
 OnPacketAcked(acked_packet):
+  if (!ack_packet.in_flight):

```suggestion
  if (!acked_packet.in_flight):
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  Changed paths:
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  Make figure match actual packet layout


  Commit: fd7692b56193c197bd931c5e3f835a19b41d040f
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  Merge pull request #4406 from quicwg/transport/long_payload

Make figure match actual packet layout


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Sec 4.5 says:

> Clients MUST NOT send the EndOfEarlyData message. A server MUST treat receipt of a CRYPTO frame in a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.

This does not specify how a server MUST do if `EndOfEarlyData` in Initial/Handshake/1-RTT is received. I think that a server MUST send the TLS alert of `unexpected_message`.

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<p>Sec 4.5 says:</p>
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<p>Clients MUST NOT send the EndOfEarlyData message. A server MUST treat receipt of a CRYPTO frame in a 0-RTT packet as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.</p>
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<p>This does not specify how a server MUST do if <code>EndOfEarlyData</code> in Initial/Handshake/1-RTT is received. I think that a server MUST send the TLS alert of <code>unexpected_message</code>.</p>

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I'm not sure if we need to change, or if the proposed change is reasonable.

Doesn't RFC 8446 already state that the receiver MUST error-close the connection when it receives EndOfEarlyData in other epochs? Assuming that that is the case, I think that the current text is correct, because the section talks about "QUIC-Specific Adjustments to the TLS Handshake."

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<p>I'm not sure if we need to change, or if the proposed change is reasonable.</p>
<p>Doesn't RFC 8446 already state that the receiver MUST error-close the connection when it receives EndOfEarlyData in other epochs? Assuming that that is the case, I think that the current text is correct, because the section talks about "QUIC-Specific Adjustments to the TLS Handshake."</p>

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The draft also says:

> Endpoints MUST treat the receipt of a TLS KeyUpdate message as a connection error of type 0x10a, equivalent to a fatal TLS alert of unexpected_message.

What is the difference between KeyUpdate and EndOfEarlyData?

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<p>The draft also says:</p>
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<p>Endpoints MUST treat the receipt of a TLS KeyUpdate message as a connection error of type 0x10a, equivalent to a fatal TLS alert of unexpected_message.</p>
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<p>What is the difference between KeyUpdate and EndOfEarlyData?</p>

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@kazuho approved this pull request.

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@kazu-yamamoto I'd argue that the only way to interpret that text is that the KeyUpdate message cannot be used _even when permitted by TLS 1.3_ (i.e. in 1-RTT packets). The italic part is implied, rather than explicitly stated like the case for EndOfEarlyData.

If there's ambiguity, we can try to be explicit. I do not have a strong opinion on if we need to.

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<p>If there's ambiguity, we can try to be explicit. I do not have a strong opinion on if we need to.</p>

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I think @MikeBishop makes a good point here, and I'm not sure if QUIC-TLS is more stringent than TLS 1.3.

Taking a quick look of appendix E.5 of RFC 8446, I notice the following differences:
* TLS 1.3 states that stacks "MUST NOT enable 0-RTT unless _specifically requested_ by the application", whereas the PR #4394 states that stacks "MUST only use 0-RTT for application data that is _permitted_ by the application." We might consider the requirements as being different.
* TLS 1.3 states that the stack "MUST NOT automatically resend 0-RTT data if it is rejected by the server unless instructed by the application" (appendix E.5). I'm not sure if we have something similar in QUIC-TLS.

I haven't done a thorough check, but these differences might be concerning.

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<p>I think <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/MikeBishop/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/MikeBishop">@MikeBishop</a> makes a good point here, and I'm not sure if QUIC-TLS is more stringent than TLS 1.3.</p>
<p>Taking a quick look of appendix E.5 of RFC 8446, I notice the following differences:</p>
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<li>TLS 1.3 states that stacks "MUST NOT enable 0-RTT unless <em>specifically requested</em> by the application", whereas the PR <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="746252465" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4394" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394">#4394</a> states that stacks "MUST only use 0-RTT for application data that is <em>permitted</em> by the application." We might consider the requirements as being different.</li>
<li>TLS 1.3 states that the stack "MUST NOT automatically resend 0-RTT data if it is rejected by the server unless instructed by the application" (appendix E.5). I'm not sure if we have something similar in QUIC-TLS.</li>
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<p>I haven't done a thorough check, but these differences might be concerning.</p>

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To let readers interpret the text as "cannot be used", we should simply use "cannot be used". If "MUST NOT" is used, the handling should be specified.


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<p>To let readers interpret the text as "cannot be used", we should simply use "cannot be used". If "MUST NOT" is used, the handling should be specified.</p>

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Update: I think we might want to make corresponding changes to the TLS draft.

Re TLS draft, I think we can replace all the occurrences of "short header packet(s)", "packet(s) with (a) short header" in the TLS draft with "1-RTT", as well as table 1.



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<p>Update: I think we might want to make corresponding changes to the TLS draft.</p>
<p>Re TLS draft, I think we can replace all the occurrences of "short header packet(s)", "packet(s) with (a) short header" in the TLS draft with "1-RTT", as well as table 1.</p>

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We already have a check to only add in_flight packets to lost_packets, but I added an assert to hopefully make that clearer.

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<p>We already have a check to only add in_flight packets to lost_packets, but I added an assert to hopefully make that clearer.</p>

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> @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they

Fair point on the error codes, but I'm still having a very difficult time understanding the scenario of interest here.  RESET_STREAM has no impact unless you send STREAM frames, so let's focus on CONNECTION_CLOSE.

If I replay only a CONNECTION_CLOSE with no STREAM frames sent on the connection, what could that do?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394#discussion_r530466708">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they
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<p>Fair point on the error codes, but I'm still having a very difficult time understanding the scenario of interest here.  RESET_STREAM has no impact unless you send STREAM frames, so let's focus on CONNECTION_CLOSE.</p>
<p>If I replay only a CONNECTION_CLOSE with no STREAM frames sent on the connection, what could that do?</p>

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> TLS 1.3 states that stacks "MUST NOT automatically resend 0-RTT data if it is rejected by the server unless instructed by the application." I'm not sure if we have something similar in QUIC-TLS.

As far as I know we have no such restriction/requirements in QUIC-TLS. In MsQuic we allow the app to control this behavior. When informed of 0-RTT rejection, they have the option of aborting any stream data they had queued (and allowed the use of 0-RTT). This would result in the corresponding STREAM_RESET/STOP_SENDING frames being sent to the peer in 1-RTT. I the app doesn't abort, then we'd immediately retransmit the stream data in a 1-RTT packet the first chance we got. Should we not be doing this? If not, how else would/could we handle this?

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<p>As far as I know we have no such restriction/requirements in QUIC-TLS. In MsQuic we allow the app to control this behavior. When informed of 0-RTT rejection, they have the option of aborting any stream data they had queued (and allowed the use of 0-RTT). This would result in the corresponding STREAM_RESET/STOP_SENDING frames being sent to the peer in 1-RTT. I the app doesn't abort, then we'd immediately retransmit the stream data in a 1-RTT packet the first chance we got. Should we not be doing this? If not, how else would/could we handle this?</p>

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For me the header looks fine: it is coherent with the final result. What looks wrong to you?

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> @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they

Imagine if your application protocol does something that's both important to the user and non-idempotent when the server receives an application layer connection close. Letting an attacker replay that would be bad. I think it's worth having some text for designers of application protocols that highlight this risk.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394#discussion_r530586602">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they
</pre>
<p>Imagine if your application protocol does something that's both important to the user and non-idempotent when the server receives an application layer connection close. Letting an attacker replay that would be bad. I think it's worth having some text for designers of application protocols that highlight this risk.</p>

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> @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
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-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they

The canonical example is a bank transaction where each request deposits a dollar in someone else's account.  Using a connection close error code to convey such a transaction seems implausible to me, so I'm not saying it's impossible, just that I can't construct an example that causes any issues.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394#discussion_r530644762">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they
</pre>
<p>The canonical example is a bank transaction where each request deposits a dollar in someone else's account.  Using a connection close error code to convey such a transaction seems implausible to me, so I'm not saying it's impossible, just that I can't construct an example that causes any issues.</p>

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I think symmetry here would have been clearer -- if all lost packets were in the list, similar to acked packets, and if the check for inflight was at the time of removing it from bytes_in_flight. That does make the code for OnPacketsLost more complicated though, since you have to do an early return if none of the packets lost were in flight. On balance, I think the assert is good enough -- thanks!



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<p>I think symmetry here would have been clearer -- if all lost packets were in the list, similar to acked packets, and if the check for inflight was at the time of removing it from bytes_in_flight. That does make the code for OnPacketsLost more complicated though, since you have to do an early return if none of the packets lost were in flight. On balance, I think the assert is good enough -- thanks!</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
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  Always save the packet size and return early

When the packet is not in_flight, return early instead of not saving the size earlier.

FIxes #4408


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Co-authored-by: Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com>


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  Add an assert

Only in_flight packets are added to lost_packets, so adding an assert to improve readability.


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  Merge pull request #4409 from quicwg/ianswett-bytes_in_flight_in_flight

Always save the packet size and return early


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> @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
 means that restrictions on their use are necessary to avoid replay attacks on
 the protocol.
 
-A client MUST only use 0-RTT keys to protect data that is idempotent.  A client
-MAY wish to apply additional restrictions on what data it sends prior to the
-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
-equivalent to 1-RTT keys, except that it MUST NOT send ACKs with 0-RTT keys.
+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they

I don't know that there's an attack here, but RESET_STREAM can be sent without a STREAM, to retire that stream ID. I suppose if an application was applying semantic meaning to a particular stream-id, then canceling those stream-ids could be some sort of transaction? For example, I report a metric measurement on each stream, and if I reset that stream, then it's the default value? I dunno.

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394#discussion_r530703910">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1276,10 +1276,31 @@ If 0-RTT keys are available (see {{enable-0rtt}}), the lack of replay protection
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-completion of the TLS handshake.  A client otherwise treats 0-RTT keys as
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+Of the frames defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}}, the STREAM, RESET_STREAM, and
+CONNECTION_CLOSE frames are potentially unsafe for use with 0-RTT as they
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<p>I don't know that there's an attack here, but RESET_STREAM can be sent without a STREAM, to retire that stream ID. I suppose if an application was applying semantic meaning to a particular stream-id, then canceling those stream-ids could be some sort of transaction? For example, I report a metric measurement on each stream, and if I reset that stream, then it's the default value? I dunno.</p>

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fd902e545a29a768e1794d00c42619a7f196fc04  fix in tls


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@kazuho: Thanks for the note. I've updated the tls doc, but I've not replaced all uses of `short header`. I've retained it where it is used alongside `long header`, for symmetry.


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I looked into the commits but I cannot identify the commit which removed this line.
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  * reviving a missing line.

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    M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (1)

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<p>I looked into the commits but I cannot identify the commit which removed this line.</p>

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QUIC-TLS defines some &quot;adjustments&quot;(https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#name-quic-specific-adjustments-t) to TLS 1.3.

As they are adjustments, we are updating TLS only when necessary. However, discussion in #4410 seems to have revealed one corner case that is ambiguous. This PR addresses that problem.

To be specific, TLS 1.3 defines the necessary action when an endpoint receives KeyUpdate massage in epoch other than 1-RTT. However, current statement in QUIC-TLS can be read as if it is updating that. This PR makes it clear that the &quot;adjustment&quot; applies to only when the use of KeyUpdate is permitted by TLS 1.3 but not in QUIC-TLS.

Closes #4410.
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  * handling of KeyUpdate in other epochs are specified in RFC 8446, do not override

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    M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (4)

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<p>QUIC-TLS defines some "adjustments"(<a rel="nofollow" href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#name-quic-specific-adjustments-t">https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#name-quic-specific-adjustments-t</a>) to TLS 1.3.</p>
<p>As they are adjustments, we are updating TLS only when necessary. However, discussion in <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="750410109" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4410" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4410/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4410">#4410</a> seems to have revealed one corner case that is ambiguous. This PR addresses that problem.</p>
<p>To be specific, TLS 1.3 defines the necessary action when an endpoint receives KeyUpdate massage in epoch other than 1-RTT. However, current statement in QUIC-TLS can be read as if it is updating that. This PR makes it clear that the "adjustment" applies to only when the use of KeyUpdate is permitted by TLS 1.3 but not in QUIC-TLS.</p>
<p><span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4410.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="750410109" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4410" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4410/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4410">#4410</a>.</p>

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<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>handling of KeyUpdate in other epochs are specified in RFC 8446, do not override</li>
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> @@ -1426,8 +1426,8 @@ packet that contains the changed value.
 
 This mechanism replaces the TLS KeyUpdate message.  Endpoints MUST NOT send a
 TLS KeyUpdate message.  Endpoints MUST treat the receipt of a TLS KeyUpdate
-message as a connection error of type 0x10a, equivalent to a fatal TLS alert of
-unexpected_message (see {{tls-errors}}).
+message in a 1-RTT packet as a connection error of type 0x10a, equivalent to a
+fatal TLS alert of unexpected_message (see {{tls-errors}}).

IIUC, KeyUpdate is forbidden by the the TLS spec, right? Can we add a sentence here that states taht?

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4412#discussion_r532155595">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1426,8 +1426,8 @@ packet that contains the changed value.
 
 This mechanism replaces the TLS KeyUpdate message.  Endpoints MUST NOT send a
 TLS KeyUpdate message.  Endpoints MUST treat the receipt of a TLS KeyUpdate
-message as a connection error of type 0x10a, equivalent to a fatal TLS alert of
-unexpected_message (see {{tls-errors}}).
+message in a 1-RTT packet as a connection error of type 0x10a, equivalent to a
+fatal TLS alert of unexpected_message (see {{tls-errors}}).
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<p>IIUC, KeyUpdate is forbidden by the the TLS spec, right? Can we add a sentence here that states taht?</p>

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b33c48762efdd88170eebed13272bc14278495a1  clarify that TLS sends KeyUpdates only in 1-RTT


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> @@ -1426,8 +1426,8 @@ packet that contains the changed value.
 
 This mechanism replaces the TLS KeyUpdate message.  Endpoints MUST NOT send a
 TLS KeyUpdate message.  Endpoints MUST treat the receipt of a TLS KeyUpdate
-message as a connection error of type 0x10a, equivalent to a fatal TLS alert of
-unexpected_message (see {{tls-errors}}).
+message in a 1-RTT packet as a connection error of type 0x10a, equivalent to a
+fatal TLS alert of unexpected_message (see {{tls-errors}}).

PTAL at b33c487. With the change, I think the text now aligns better with what we state for EOED ([section 8.3](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#name-removing-the-endofearlydata)).

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<p>In <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4412#discussion_r532167561">draft-ietf-quic-tls.md</a>:</p>
<pre style='color:#555'>&gt; @@ -1426,8 +1426,8 @@ packet that contains the changed value.
 
 This mechanism replaces the TLS KeyUpdate message.  Endpoints MUST NOT send a
 TLS KeyUpdate message.  Endpoints MUST treat the receipt of a TLS KeyUpdate
-message as a connection error of type 0x10a, equivalent to a fatal TLS alert of
-unexpected_message (see {{tls-errors}}).
+message in a 1-RTT packet as a connection error of type 0x10a, equivalent to a
+fatal TLS alert of unexpected_message (see {{tls-errors}}).
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<p>PTAL at <a class="commit-link" data-hovercard-type="commit" data-hovercard-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b33c48762efdd88170eebed13272bc14278495a1/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b33c48762efdd88170eebed13272bc14278495a1"><tt>b33c487</tt></a>. With the change, I think the text now aligns better with what we state for EOED (<a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-tls.html#name-removing-the-endofearlydata" rel="nofollow">section 8.3</a>).</p>

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I do not think anything should change personally.

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I started this to resolve #4413 but there&#39;s not much to fix.
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<p>I started this to <span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4413.">resolve</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="753045071" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4413" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4413/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4413">#4413</a> but there's not much to fix.</p>

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FWIW I've filed #4412 that does not do anything regarding the original issue, but makes changes to the specification regarding KeyUpdate to clarify that it is not intended to respecify how TLS rejects that message during handshake.

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@kazuho `h3spec` now supports an error case of TLS KeyUpdate in 1-RTT. Based on experiments with `h3spec`, it appeared that TLS stack might be freed already when any CRYPTOs including KeyUpdate in 1-RTT are received. So, we should also allow `PROTOCOL_VIOLATION` in this case.

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I don't see any reason to specifically allow PROTOCOL_VIOLATION here (it's allowed as a fallback for any error code anyway), as it's possible for a QUIC stack to generate an error code in the CRYPTO_ERROR space, even if the TLS stack has already been shut down.

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<p>I don't see any reason to specifically allow PROTOCOL_VIOLATION here (it's allowed as a fallback for any error code anyway), as it's possible for a QUIC stack to generate an error code in the CRYPTO_ERROR space, even if the TLS stack has already been shut down.</p>

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@marten-seemann It's possible but it's not reasonable because QUIC stack needs to parse TLS messages.

BTW, where can I find the fallback rule?

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@kazu-yamamoto 
> It's possible but it's not reasonable because QUIC stack needs to parse TLS messages.

A QUIC stack that discards the TLS state post-handshake is committing to handle TLS messages by itself. Therefore, it has to handle them correctly.

In practice, such QUIC stack running as clients have to handle NewSessionTicket messages correctly (therefore they need to be capable of parsing TLS messages). Such stacks running as servers can respond with unexpected_message alert for any post-handshake message because in RFC 8446 there isn't a case where a client unilaterally sends a post-handshake message with the only exception being KeyUpdate.

> BTW, where can I find the fallback rule?

It is defined at https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-11-2.

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<p>It's possible but it's not reasonable because QUIC stack needs to parse TLS messages.</p>
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<p>In practice, such QUIC stack running as clients have to handle NewSessionTicket messages correctly (therefore they need to be capable of parsing TLS messages). Such stacks running as servers can respond with unexpected_message alert for any post-handshake message because in RFC 8446 there isn't a case where a client unilaterally sends a post-handshake message with the only exception being KeyUpdate.</p>
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I'm not sure - if padding is included to discover PMTU or whatever, and the pipe clogs up, that is a problem even if the contribution is not ack eliciting. It is of course still important to not block acks.

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> It is defined at https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-11-2.

Thanks. I'm fine with this rule. So, I withdraw my suggestion.

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<p>It is defined at <a href="https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-11-2" rel="nofollow">https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#section-11-2</a>.</p>
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<p>Thanks. I'm fine with this rule. So, I withdraw my suggestion.</p>

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To have the context, I quote your explanation.

> The reason is that the packets need to elicit acknowledgements to reliably establish persistent congestion.

I think ack-eliciting makes more sense here than in-flight. At least, I understand that for the persistent congestion detection the first and the last packet need to be ack-eliciting. But why does this have to be true for packets sent between these two ack-eliciting packets?

Here is an example for the edge case.

`t=0 send packet #1 (ack-eliciting)`
`t=0..2 send packets #2-9 (non-ack-eliciting)`
`t=2 send #10 (PTO 1)`
`t=2..6 send packets #11-29 (non-ack-eliciting)`
`t=6 send #30 (PTO 2)`
`t=6..14 send packets #31-49 (non-ack-eliciting)`
`t=14 send #50 (PTO 3)`
`t=14.2 receive ack for #2-9, #11-29, #31-50`

The loss of three out of 50 packets let the sender consider this a persistent congestion.

In general, I don't see a real issue here. But, I would like to understand why it is helpful to ignore the fact that non-ack-eliciting packets, sent between two lost ack-eliciting packets, have been acknowledged.

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<p>To have the context, I quote your explanation.</p>
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<p>The reason is that the packets need to elicit acknowledgements to reliably establish persistent congestion.</p>
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<p>I think ack-eliciting makes more sense here than in-flight. At least, I understand that for the persistent congestion detection the first and the last packet need to be ack-eliciting. But why does this have to be true for packets sent between these two ack-eliciting packets?</p>
<p>Here is an example for the edge case.</p>
<p><code>t=0 send packet #1 (ack-eliciting)</code><br>
<code>t=0..2 send packets #2-9 (non-ack-eliciting)</code><br>
<code>t=2 send #10 (PTO 1)</code><br>
<code>t=2..6 send packets #11-29 (non-ack-eliciting)</code><br>
<code>t=6 send #30 (PTO 2)</code><br>
<code>t=6..14 send packets #31-49 (non-ack-eliciting)</code><br>
<code>t=14 send #50 (PTO 3)</code><br>
<code>t=14.2 receive ack for #2-9, #11-29, #31-50</code></p>
<p>The loss of three out of 50 packets let the sender consider this a persistent congestion.</p>
<p>In general, I don't see a real issue here. But, I would like to understand why it is helpful to ignore the fact that non-ack-eliciting packets, sent between two lost ack-eliciting packets, have been acknowledged.</p>

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@nibanks I think you are correct in pointing out that we do not have such a restriction in QUIC-TLS. That in turn means that QUIC is deviating from TLS 1.3 that mandates the application to "instruct" if data sent in 0-RTT should be replayed. I think that having such a requirement in QUIC is difficult, because QUIC stacks might retransmit data sent in 0-RTT packets using 1-RTT packets.

I think that leads to the conclusion that QUIC has to specify it's own "replay safety," because it cannot have have all the "out of abundance of caution" MUSTs that TLS 1.3 have. At the end of the day, I think #4394 is fine as it is.

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<p><a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/nibanks/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/nibanks">@nibanks</a> I think you are correct in pointing out that we do not have such a restriction in QUIC-TLS. That in turn means that QUIC is deviating from TLS 1.3 that mandates the application to "instruct" if data sent in 0-RTT should be replayed. I think that having such a requirement in QUIC is difficult, because QUIC stacks might retransmit data sent in 0-RTT packets using 1-RTT packets.</p>
<p>I think that leads to the conclusion that QUIC has to specify it's own "replay safety," because it cannot have have all the "out of abundance of caution" MUSTs that TLS 1.3 have. At the end of the day, I think <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="746252465" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4394" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4394">#4394</a> is fine as it is.</p>

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This absolutely should not be in flight packets.  This may not cause a major issue as it stands but it is not technically correct.

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<p>This absolutely should not be in flight packets.  This may not cause a major issue as it stands but it is not technically correct.</p>

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The text is largely correct(ack-eliciting, not in-flight) already, based on my reading.  Unfortunately, the very first description is incorrect, which is potentially confusing, so see #4414 

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<p>The text is largely correct(ack-eliciting, not in-flight) already, based on my reading.  Unfortunately, the very first description is incorrect, which is potentially confusing, so see <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="753067132" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4414" data-hovercard-type="pull_request" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4414/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4414">#4414</a></p>

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This text was mostly lifted from RFC 7541.

> In these scenarios, is the concern that the
intermediary may control either a client or an origin server and thus would
be able to leverage the compression context at, say, a second client and
then observe (as the intermediary) the result of a guess for a field tuple?

Yes, this is the concern.  It's interesting that 'intermediary' here also refers to a browser that coalesces requests from different tabs onto the same connection.

> It may be helpful to explain this in a little more detail.

I agree.

> While there are several options listed, there is also no recommendation
as to what strategy (option) implementations should choose to protect
against this attack. 

I think the document recommends the tagging option unambiguously:

"An ideal solution segregates access to the dynamic table based on the entity that is constructing the message"

While never-index literals is the less complicated fallback option.

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<p></p>
<p>This text was mostly lifted from RFC 7541.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>In these scenarios, is the concern that the<br>
intermediary may control either a client or an origin server and thus would<br>
be able to leverage the compression context at, say, a second client and<br>
then observe (as the intermediary) the result of a guess for a field tuple?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yes, this is the concern.  It's interesting that 'intermediary' here also refers to a browser that coalesces requests from different tabs onto the same connection.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>It may be helpful to explain this in a little more detail.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I agree.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>While there are several options listed, there is also no recommendation<br>
as to what strategy (option) implementations should choose to protect<br>
against this attack.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I think the document recommends the tagging option unambiguously:</p>
<p>"An ideal solution segregates access to the dynamic table based on the entity that is constructing the message"</p>
<p>While never-index literals is the less complicated fallback option.</p>

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This section is not related to the probing attack.  I think some of the confusion here is lost formatting when importing from RFC 7541.  

The TOC should be:

```
7.1.  Probing Dynamic Table State
7.1.1.  Applicability to QPACK and HTTP
7.1.2.  Mitigation
7.1.3.  Never-Indexed Literals
7.2.  Static Huffman Encoding
7.3.  Memory Consumption
7.4.  Implementation Limits
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<p></p>
<p>This section is not related to the probing attack.  I think some of the confusion here is lost formatting when importing from RFC 7541.</p>
<p>The TOC should be:</p>
<pre><code>7.1.  Probing Dynamic Table State
7.1.1.  Applicability to QPACK and HTTP
7.1.2.  Mitigation
7.1.3.  Never-Indexed Literals
7.2.  Static Huffman Encoding
7.3.  Memory Consumption
7.4.  Implementation Limits
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See [this section](https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-quic-transport-32.html#section-13.2.7).

I may be missing some context, but I can only think of a single use-case involving PADDING only packets. 

A congestion control algorithm could use PADDING-only packets to fill the congestion control window when application-limited to probe for higher window values. The idea is to use PADDING packets instead of PING packets to reduce spurious ACKs, but this is flawed:

1. The aforementioned deadlock is possible.
To avoid this deadlock, PING packets need to be sent after PADDING packets, although they are susceptible to packet loss. The RFC vaguely recommends sending regular PING frames to compensate, which partially defeats the purpose of using PADDING frames.

2. This only tests the network in one direction. 
The goal is to test the network capacity before utilizing it, but the additional ACK load will not be tested. This is a problem for asymmetric links that may have capacity for PADDING packets, but do not have capacity for STREAM+ACK packets.

3. This probing only works for loss-based algorithms.
Delay-based congestion control algorithms like BBR will need explicit ACKs to measure RTT. They would use PING instead of PADDING.

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<p>See <a href="https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-quic-transport-32.html#section-13.2.7" rel="nofollow">this section</a>.</p>
<p>I may be missing some context, but I can only think of a single use-case involving PADDING only packets.</p>
<p>A congestion control algorithm could use PADDING-only packets to fill the congestion control window when application-limited to probe for higher window values. The idea is to use PADDING packets instead of PING packets to reduce spurious ACKs, but this is flawed:</p>
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<li>
<p>The aforementioned deadlock is possible.<br>
To avoid this deadlock, PING packets need to be sent after PADDING packets, although they are susceptible to packet loss. The RFC vaguely recommends sending regular PING frames to compensate, which partially defeats the purpose of using PADDING frames.</p>
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<p>This only tests the network in one direction.<br>
The goal is to test the network capacity before utilizing it, but the additional ACK load will not be tested. This is a problem for asymmetric links that may have capacity for PADDING packets, but do not have capacity for STREAM+ACK packets.</p>
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<p>This probing only works for loss-based algorithms.<br>
Delay-based congestion control algorithms like BBR will need explicit ACKs to measure RTT. They would use PING instead of PADDING.</p>
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I think that this hypothetical congestion control algorithm should use PI=
NG-only packets instead of PADDING-only packets. I don=E2=80=99t think th=
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for non-congestion-controlled PADDING-only frames.=0D
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In general, only ack-eliciting packets should contribute to the congestio=
n control window. Frames like ACK and PADDING do not trigger an acknowled=
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<p>I think that this hypothetical congestion control algorithm should use=
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<p>In general, only ack-eliciting packets should contribute to the conges=
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The protocol permits PADDING-only packets, so this text is a treatment to their implications.

I think we're well beyond the point where we can consider prohibiting PADDING-only packets as a design change to the protocol.



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<p>The protocol permits PADDING-only packets, so this text is a treatment to their implications.</p>
<p>I think we're well beyond the point where we can consider prohibiting PADDING-only packets as a design change to the protocol.</p>

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