From rpelletier@isoc.org Mon Jun 3 07:39:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: recentattendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: recentattendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020B721E8082 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 07:39:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.113 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.113 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.928, BAYES_40=-0.185, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id etMiXmUyfGE4 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 07:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp81.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (smtp81.ord1c.emailsrvr.com [108.166.43.81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEFA21E8091 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 07:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.relay.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C6EF950524 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 10:39:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp3.relay.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 26D395053F for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 10:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) From: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: <5FEB74E0-1DE6-432B-891C-B72352B8A727@isoc.org> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 10:39:45 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <5FEB74E0-1DE6-432B-891C-B72352B8A727@isoc.org> To: recentattendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Subject: [Recentattendees] LAST CALL Buenos Aires Meeting Survey was Re: IETF Meeting in South America X-BeenThere: recentattendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Recent IETF Attendees List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 14:39:54 -0000 All; LAST CALL for input on survey. Join 495 of your colleagues and provide = input on 9 question=20 anonymous survey. Takes 3 minutes. See note below. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/NWYLQCD Thanks Ray On May 26, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > All; >=20 > This email is being sent to everyone who attended an IETF meeting in = 2012 and 2013. > Every effort was made to eliminate dupes, but errors may have occurred = or people may > have used different addresses for different lists. Apologies in = advance if you have=20 > already received this information and request for feedback about the = IETF considering=20 > holding an IETF meeting in South America. >=20 > Ray Pelletier > IETF Administrative Director >=20 > As you may know the IAOC has been investigating the feasibility of = having an IETF > meeting in South America. There was a site visit to South America = last February.=20 > We have found two venues that we believe will support a successful = IETF meeting > and we would like to get feedback from the community. >=20 > The venues are in Buenos Aires. They meet our requirements for the = meeting > space, networking, nearby restaurants and bars, hotel room rates in = the mid $200 > dollar range, nearby alternate hotels at a broad range of prices, nice = area in the > city, safe, direct international flights, and accessible visas. The = IAOC thinks we > could have a successful IETF meeting in Buenos Aires and that = attendees would > like the venues. >=20 > There has been a consistent level of IETF participation from South and = Central > America, and it has been growing since IETF82. The data on this is = posted at=20 >=20 > http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/IETF-Regional-Attendance-00.pdf. =20 >=20 > The current meeting regional rotation (announced at IETF79) allows for = an > occasional IETF meeting outside of our main regions (Europe, North = America, > Asia/Pacific). =20 >=20 > IETF standards are made more valuable the more relevant they are and = the more > uptake they get. IETF standards are also made more robust when all = perspectives > are represented during their development. Encouraging growing = participation > will help strengthen the Internet, further encourage participation = from those areas > that will see the most growth in the coming years, and will help = advance the IETF > in political and international circles which is becoming more of an = imperative. >=20 > We have asked the IESG for their feedback and they are supportive of a = meeting in > South America if there is community support and active participants = attend. >=20 > Things to consider are that it will be a long trip for the majority of = IETFers and the > air fares are more expensive (about 10% to 20% higher than average), = though > restaurants are less expensive. This would be a case where most = IETFers would > bear more travel pain and expense. =20 >=20 > The IAOC would like to understand if the IETF community thinks that = the IETF > should have a meeting in the next few years in Buenos Aires. The IAOC = would > also like to get feedback on how we can ensure the meeting is as = successful as > possible and on ways to grow participation in the region. >=20 > We have set up a survey at https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/NWYLQCD = where > you can indicate your likelihood of attending, and we encourage you to = send your > general feedback to the IETF list . >=20 > Thanks, > Bob Hinden > IAOC Chair >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Recentattendees mailing list > Recentattendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/recentattendees From amankin@verisign.com Mon Jun 3 10:29:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: recentattendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: recentattendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC74421F918F for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 10:29:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8EcP1kvAk8NJ for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 10:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod6og104.obsmtp.com (exprod6og104.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.187]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3067B21F8FCB for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 10:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from peregrine.verisign.com ([216.168.239.74]) (using TLSv1) by exprod6ob104.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUazRcg2cEp4G1zw3xn9QWAYm7fJWWuLI@postini.com; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 10:25:12 PDT Received: from brn1wnexcas02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (brn1wnexcas02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.173.152.206]) by peregrine.verisign.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id r53HP10d011286 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 13:25:05 -0400 Received: from BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) by brn1wnexcas02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 13:25:01 -0400 From: "Mankin, Allison" To: "recentattendees@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: NOMCOM 2013: Call for volunteers Thread-Index: AQHOYH9GMcjWGjp3+0WFFDy+HIJtjA== Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:25:00 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <5B136513AE81A54BB9CF02B1426AB718@verisign.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Recentattendees] NOMCOM 2013: Call for volunteers X-BeenThere: recentattendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Mankin, Allison" List-Id: Recent IETF Attendees List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 17:29:32 -0000 The IETF nominating committee (nomcom) process for 2013-14 is under way. Th= e=20 IETF nomcom appoints folks to fill the open slots on the IAOC, the IAB, and the IESG. Ten voting members for the nomcom are selected in a verifiabl= y random way from a pool of volunteers.=20 The details of the selection and operation of the nomcom can be found=20 in RFCs 3777, 5078, 5633, 5680, and 6859. Four of those RFCs (3777, 5633,= =20 5680 and 6859) comprise BCP 10. We will also reference RFC 3797. Volunteers must have attended 3 of the past 5 IETF meetings. As specified = in RFC 3777, that means three out of the five past meetings up to the time thi= s email announcement goes out to start the solicitation of volunteers. The fi= ve meetings out of which you must have attended three are IETF 82, 83, 84, 85,= 86. If you qualify, just hit Reply to this email and volunteer. :D The list of people and posts whose terms end with the March 2014 IETF meeting, and thus the positions for which this nomcom is responsible, are IAOC: Chris Griffiths IAB: Bernard Aboba Marc Blanchet Ross Callon Eliot Lear Hannes Tschofenig IESG: Barry Leiba (Applications) Brian Haberman (Internet) Benoit Claise (Operations and Management) Gonzalo Camarillo (RAI) Stewart Bryant (Routing) Sean Turner (Security) Martin Stiemerling (Transport) The primary activity for this nomcom will begin in July 2013 and should be completed in January 2014. Being a nomcom member will require some time commitment - there will be interviews with candidates at meetings, regularl= y scheduled conference calls to ensure progress, collection and review of=20 requirements from the commitment, review of candidate questionnaires and of community feedback. A more detailed timetable for the nomcom tasks will appear soon. Please respond to this email before 11:59 pm EDT (UTC -4 hours)=20 July 8, 2013 (deadline extended). In the body include:=20 1. your Given Name as you enter it when you register for the IETF 2. your Family Name as you enter it when you register for the IETF 3. your current primary affilation (the information you enter into the Comp= any field) 4. any/all email addresses you've used to register for IETF meetings=20 5. which email address you prefer=20 6. your phone number (for our use in confirming you if selected). You should expect an email response from me within 3 business days stating whether or not you are qualified (and added to the list). If you don't rec= eive this response, please re-send your email adding the tag "RESEND" to the subject = line. Participating in the IETF nomcom is a meaningful and fun way to contribute = to the IETF. =20 Please help us meet a challenge we've set to have 200 volunteers. Hit Reply to this message and volunteer today. Thanks! Allison=20 Allison Mankin 2013-2014 NOMCOM Chair= From rpelletier@isoc.org Thu Jun 20 12:32:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: recentattendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: recentattendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF0E21F9AED for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:32:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.916 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.916 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.349, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bfin3yUV1cxN for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp153.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp153.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.153]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B1421F9AE6 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp32.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1E8D050258 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:32:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp32.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id E24E0501A4 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) From: Ray Pelletier Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:32:07 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20130620180046.12461.96111.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: recentattendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Subject: [Recentattendees] Fwd: Conclusions on South American IETF Meeting X-BeenThere: recentattendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Discussion IETF List-Id: Recent IETF Attendees List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 19:32:13 -0000 Begin forwarded message: > From: The IAOC > Date: June 20, 2013 2:00:46 PM EDT > To: IETF Announcement List > Subject: Conclusions on South American IETF Meeting > Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org >=20 > The IAOC would like to thank all the people who commented on the IETF > list and responded to the survey. It was very helpful to the IAOC in > identifying issues and interest. >=20 > As of 17 June 2013, the survey had 656 responses. This was more=20 > responses than for any other survey we have done, and is more than=20 > half of the number of people who usually attend an IETF meeting. >=20 > Of the unfiltered data, 72.3% said they would very likely or likely=20 > attend a meeting in Buenos Aires. 13.3% said unlikely or very=20 > unlikely. Of these 17.1% have not attended an IETF meeting and 38.7%=20= > are not on a committee, WG chair, I-D author, or full time student. In=20= > this group 169 people (25.7%) were from South America, Latin America,=20= > or the Caribbean. The unfiltered survey results can be found at: >=20 > http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/SurveySummary_Unfiltered_06172013.pdf >=20 > Applying a filter of only looking at the most active participants=20 > (that is, IESG, IAB, IAOC, NomCom members, WG chairs, and I-D authors)=20= > the Likely and Very Likely is 71.8% indicated they will attend, and=20 > 13.8% said they were unlikely or very unlikely. In this group 26=20 > people (7.0%) were from South America, Latin America, or the=20 > Caribbean. Also, this group of the most active participants was Likely=20= > or Very Likely to attend London at 85.9% (higher than South America)=20= > and Yokohama at 68.4% (lower than South America). The filtered survey=20= > results can be found at: >=20 > http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/SurveySummary_Active_06172013-1.pdf >=20 > Based on these survey results, we conclude there would be good=20 > attendance at a meeting in Buenos Aires overall, good attendance from=20= > people in the region, and that most active participants will attend.=20= > Active participants would attend at similar rates to their attendance=20= > at other IETF meetings. =46rom this viewpoint, holding a meeting in=20 > Buenos Aires appears to be similar holding it in other locations=20 > around the world. >=20 > The results from the survey by itself do not mean we should have an=20 > IETF meeting in Buenos Aires, but it does eliminate several reasons=20 > why we should not have a meeting there. >=20 > The harder questions as discussed on the IETF list relate to if we=20 > should have a meeting in Buenos Aires. >=20 > The first part of this relates to whether having a single meeting in=20= > South America will increase IETF participation from that region and=20 > increase the diversity in the IETF. This was discussed a lot on the=20 > IETF list. We agree that a single meeting isn't sufficient. We have=20 > been talking with the Internet Society (ISOC) about programs and=20 > events that could be held in the region leading up to and following an=20= > IETF meeting in the region. They said that ISOC is planning to hold a=20= > series of events and programs in South America. This would include: >=20 > - Increasing the IETF Fellows and policy makers from the region > - Local meetings about IETF technologies > - Local meetings about Internet deployment approaches > - Local meetings with general information on how the IETF works and=20= > how to participate >=20 > The more detailed plan we received from ISOC can be found at: >=20 > = http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/ISOC%20Activities%20supporting%20IETF%20in%= 20LAC.pdf >=20 > The IAOC thinks that scheduling an IETF meeting in Beunos Aires and=20 > announcing a series of events will increase the participation from=20 > this region and may improve the IETF's cultural diversity. >=20 > The other general questions raised on the list are why should we do=20 > this and will having a meeting in South America really help with the=20= > issues we see relating to advancing the IETF in political and=20 > international circles. Some people expressed skepticism that this=20 > would really help. We don't think we can prove this factually, it is a=20= > judgment call to a large extent, but we think the combination of the=20= > IETF meeting and the ISOC events in the region will help. >=20 > The IAOC will proceed with planning a single meeting in Buenos Aires=20= > based on what we have heard from the community, the survey, and our=20 > discussions with ISOC regarding organizing events in South America. We=20= > will also continue to track attendance from participants in all=20 > regions. >=20 > We thank you for providing feedback on the IETF list and for=20 > responding to the survey. >=20 > Bob Hinden > IAOC Chair