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Hello,

We have encountered a number of scenarios which are not too clearly
described in the RIP 2 Specification, RFC2453. We are concerned with how
a RIP Router should handle the reception of RIP Version 3 packets
(anything greater than 2).

Section 5 states
As a V1 Router:
 - Version 1 packets with MBZ with non-zero fields are to be ignored
 - Version >1 packets with MBZ with non-zero fields are not to be
ignored "simply because an MBZ field contains a value other than zero."

Does this hold true as a V2 Router?

So, does a version 2 router process, or drop, a version 3 RIP packet?
Should this packet be a Request, should a RIP Router then respond with a
Version 3 Response?

I have read through the RFC and have not come up with any clear answer
to the expected behavior. If you could direct me to specific quotes in
the RFC that will tell me what a router should do, I would appreciate
it.

Thanks,

Joe Scholefield


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Hello,

We have encountered a number of scenarios which are not too clearly
described in the RIP 2 Specification, RFC2453. We are concerned with how
a RIP Router should handle the reception of RIP Version 3 packets
(anything greater than 2).

Section 5 states
As a V1 Router:
 - Version 1 packets with MBZ with non-zero fields are to be ignored
 - Version >1 packets with MBZ with non-zero fields are not to be
ignored "simply because an MBZ field contains a value other than zero."

Does this hold true as a V2 Router?

So, does a version 2 router process, or drop, a version 3 RIP packet?
Should this packet be a Request, should a RIP Router then respond with a
Version 3 Response?

I have read through the RFC and have not come up with any clear answer
to the expected behavior. If you could direct me to specific quotes in
the RFC that will tell me what a router should do, I would appreciate
it.

Thanks,

Joe Scholefield


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Joe,

The reason the spec does not cover this case is that it
depends on the difference between V3 and V2.  If the V3
packet is completely backwards compatible with a V2 packet
(i.e., the only difference is in a field unused by V2),
then the V2 router could respond with a V2 packet.  The V3
router should be able to handle a V2 response.  Ideally,
it would remember that there is a V2 router on that
interface and use V2 on it thereafter.  If the V3 packet
is not backwards compatible, then the V2 router must drop
the V3 packet.  Unfortunately, since the V2 code is already
out there, it doesn't know which scenario is the correct
one, so its operation is implementation dependent.

Gary Malkin             Cheap, fast, good...
508-870-1300 x254                Pick two!


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Scholefield [mailto:js@iol.unh.edu]
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Subject: [rip] Version Number Processing


Hello,

We have encountered a number of scenarios which are not too clearly
described in the RIP 2 Specification, RFC2453. We are concerned with how
a RIP Router should handle the reception of RIP Version 3 packets
(anything greater than 2).

Section 5 states
As a V1 Router:
 - Version 1 packets with MBZ with non-zero fields are to be ignored
 - Version >1 packets with MBZ with non-zero fields are not to be
ignored "simply because an MBZ field contains a value other than zero."

Does this hold true as a V2 Router?

So, does a version 2 router process, or drop, a version 3 RIP packet?
Should this packet be a Request, should a RIP Router then respond with a
Version 3 Response?

I have read through the RFC and have not come up with any clear answer
to the expected behavior. If you could direct me to specific quotes in
the RFC that will tell me what a router should do, I would appreciate
it.

Thanks,

Joe Scholefield


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Joe,

The reason the spec does not cover this case is that it
depends on the difference between V3 and V2.  If the V3
packet is completely backwards compatible with a V2 packet
(i.e., the only difference is in a field unused by V2),
then the V2 router could respond with a V2 packet.  The V3
router should be able to handle a V2 response.  Ideally,
it would remember that there is a V2 router on that
interface and use V2 on it thereafter.  If the V3 packet
is not backwards compatible, then the V2 router must drop
the V3 packet.  Unfortunately, since the V2 code is already
out there, it doesn't know which scenario is the correct
one, so its operation is implementation dependent.

Gary Malkin             Cheap, fast, good...
508-870-1300 x254                Pick two!


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Scholefield [mailto:js@iol.unh.edu]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 10:59 AM
To: rip@ietf.org
Subject: [rip] Version Number Processing


Hello,

We have encountered a number of scenarios which are not too clearly
described in the RIP 2 Specification, RFC2453. We are concerned with how
a RIP Router should handle the reception of RIP Version 3 packets
(anything greater than 2).

Section 5 states
As a V1 Router:
 - Version 1 packets with MBZ with non-zero fields are to be ignored
 - Version >1 packets with MBZ with non-zero fields are not to be
ignored "simply because an MBZ field contains a value other than zero."

Does this hold true as a V2 Router?

So, does a version 2 router process, or drop, a version 3 RIP packet?
Should this packet be a Request, should a RIP Router then respond with a
Version 3 Response?

I have read through the RFC and have not come up with any clear answer
to the expected behavior. If you could direct me to specific quotes in
the RFC that will tell me what a router should do, I would appreciate
it.

Thanks,

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    In RIP, RIPng If we get a specific request for a particualr desination, RFC's say
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Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 210.1.1.0/24 and we got a specific request
for that destination

    Case 1: There is a RIP route with cost 4 which is inactive (Administrative distance)
    Case 2: There is no RIP route to the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is there with cost XYZ)

Which metric should we respond with. 

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In RIP, RIPng If we get a 
specific request for a particualr desination, RFC's say</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>that we should respond without doing split-horizon 
processing. Does that mean that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we should respond with only RIP route. 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 
</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>210.1.1.0/24 and we got a specific 
request</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>for that destination</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 1: There is a&nbsp;RIP 
route with cost 4 which is inactive (Administrative distance)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 2: There is no RIP route to 
the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is there with cost XYZ)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Which&nbsp;metric should we respond with. 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
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Hi,
 
    In RIP, RIPng If we get a specific request for a particualr desination,
RFC's say
that we should respond without doing split-horizon processing. Does that
mean that
we should respond with only RIP route. 
 
Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 210.1.1.0/24 and we got a
specific request
for that destination
 
    Case 1: There is a RIP route with cost 4 which is inactive
(Administrative distance)
    Case 2: There is no RIP route to the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is
there with cost XYZ)
 
Which metric should we respond with. 
 
Regards
Nanda kishore
-----------------------
Senior Software Engineer
Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.
Leela Galleria, 
Bangalore, India.
Ph. 25265596 (R)
      25217152 Ext 662 (O)
 
 

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<DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>You 
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<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Gary 
Malkin&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Cheap, fast, good...</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>508-870-1300 
x254&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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AM<BR><B>To:</B> rip@ietf.org; ripng@ietf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [rip] Specific 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In RIP, RIPng If we get a 
specific request for a particualr desination, RFC's say</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>that we should respond without doing split-horizon 
processing. Does that mean that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we should respond with only RIP route. 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 
</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>210.1.1.0/24 and we got a specific 
request</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>for that destination</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 1: There is a&nbsp;RIP 
route with cost 4 which is inactive (Administrative distance)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 2: There is no RIP route to 
the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is there with cost XYZ)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Which&nbsp;metric should we respond with. 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
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<BR>Bangalore, India.<BR>Ph. 25265596 (R)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Nanda kishore [mailto:kishoren@huawei.com]
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Hi,
 
    In RIP, RIPng If we get a specific request for a particualr desination,
RFC's say
that we should respond without doing split-horizon processing. Does that
mean that
we should respond with only RIP route. 
 
Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 210.1.1.0/24 and we got a
specific request
for that destination
 
    Case 1: There is a RIP route with cost 4 which is inactive
(Administrative distance)
    Case 2: There is no RIP route to the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is
there with cost XYZ)
 
Which metric should we respond with. 
 
Regards
Nanda kishore
-----------------------
Senior Software Engineer
Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.
Leela Galleria, 
Bangalore, India.
Ph. 25265596 (R)
      25217152 Ext 662 (O)
 
 

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<DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>You 
should respond with whichever route the router will use for that 
destination,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>whether or not it is a RIP route. This is true for all 
queries.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Gary 
Malkin&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Cheap, fast, good...</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>508-870-1300 
x254&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Nanda kishore 
[mailto:kishoren@huawei.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:06 
AM<BR><B>To:</B> rip@ietf.org; ripng@ietf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [rip] Specific 
request processing<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In RIP, RIPng If we get a 
specific request for a particualr desination, RFC's say</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>that we should respond without doing split-horizon 
processing. Does that mean that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we should respond with only RIP route. 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 
</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>210.1.1.0/24 and we got a specific 
request</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>for that destination</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 1: There is a&nbsp;RIP 
route with cost 4 which is inactive (Administrative distance)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 2: There is no RIP route to 
the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is there with cost XYZ)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Which&nbsp;metric should we respond with. 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nanda kishore<BR>-----------------------<BR>Senior 
Software Engineer<BR>Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.<BR>Leela Galleria, 
<BR>Bangalore, India.<BR>Ph. 25265596 (R)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
25217152 Ext 662 (O)</FONT></DIV>
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But the metric will be inconsistent.
For ospf / BGP metric may be more than 16 
How to respond send the metric in BGP say 123456
Wont' it be invalid in a rip response. ?.

Nanda kishore
-----------------------
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Leela Galleria, 
Bangalore, India.
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      25217152 Ext 662 (O)


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: gmalkin@toplayer.com 
  To: kishoren@huawei.com ; rip@ietf.org ; ripng@ietf.org 
  Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 8:58 PM
  Subject: RE: [rip] Specific request processing


  You should respond with whichever route the router will use for that destination,
  whether or not it is a RIP route. This is true for all queries.
  Gary Malkin             Cheap, fast, good... 
  508-870-1300 x254                Pick two! 

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Nanda kishore [mailto:kishoren@huawei.com]
  Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:06 AM
  To: rip@ietf.org; ripng@ietf.org
  Subject: [rip] Specific request processing


  Hi,

      In RIP, RIPng If we get a specific request for a particualr desination, RFC's say
  that we should respond without doing split-horizon processing. Does that mean that
  we should respond with only RIP route. 

  Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 210.1.1.0/24 and we got a specific request
  for that destination

      Case 1: There is a RIP route with cost 4 which is inactive (Administrative distance)
      Case 2: There is no RIP route to the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is there with cost XYZ)

  Which metric should we respond with. 

  Regards
  Nanda kishore
  -----------------------
  Senior Software Engineer
  Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.
  Leela Galleria, 
  Bangalore, India.
  Ph. 25265596 (R)
        25217152 Ext 662 (O)


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But the metric will be inconsistent.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For ospf / BGP metric may be more than 16 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How to respond send the metric in BGP say 
123456</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wont' it be invalid in a rip response. 
?.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Nanda kishore<BR>-----------------------<BR>Senior Software 
Engineer<BR>Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.<BR>Leela Galleria, <BR>Bangalore, 
India.<BR>Ph. 25265596 (R)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 25217152 Ext 662 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=gmalkin@toplayer.com 
  href="mailto:gmalkin@toplayer.com">gmalkin@toplayer.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=kishoren@huawei.com 
  href="mailto:kishoren@huawei.com">kishoren@huawei.com</A> ; <A 
  title=rip@ietf.org href="mailto:rip@ietf.org">rip@ietf.org</A> ; <A 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [rip] Specific request 
  processing</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>You 
  should respond with whichever route the router will use for that 
  destination,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>whether or not it is a RIP route. This is true for all 
  queries.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
  <P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Gary 
  Malkin&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Cheap, fast, good...</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>508-870-1300 
  x254&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Pick two!</FONT> </P></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Nanda kishore 
  [mailto:kishoren@huawei.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:06 
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:rip@ietf.org">rip@ietf.org</A>; <A 
  href="mailto:ripng@ietf.org">ripng@ietf.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> [rip] 
  Specific request processing<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In RIP, RIPng If we get a 
  specific request for a particualr desination, RFC's say</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>that we should respond without doing 
  split-horizon processing. Does that mean that</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we should respond with only RIP route. 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 
  </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>210.1.1.0/24 and we got a specific 
  request</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>for that destination</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 1: There is a&nbsp;RIP 
  route with cost 4 which is inactive (Administrative distance)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 2: There is no RIP route 
  to the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is there with cost XYZ)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Which&nbsp;metric should we respond with. 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nanda 
  kishore<BR>-----------------------<BR>Senior Software Engineer<BR>Huawei 
  Technology India Pvt. Ltd.<BR>Leela Galleria, <BR>Bangalore, India.<BR>Ph. 
  25265596 (R)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 25217152 Ext 662 
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But the metric will be inconsistent.
For ospf / BGP metric may be more than 16 
How to respond send the metric in BGP say 123456
Wont' it be invalid in a rip response. ?.

Nanda kishore
-----------------------
Senior Software Engineer
Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.
Leela Galleria, 
Bangalore, India.
Ph. 25265596 (R)
      25217152 Ext 662 (O)


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: gmalkin@toplayer.com 
  To: kishoren@huawei.com ; rip@ietf.org ; ripng@ietf.org 
  Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 8:58 PM
  Subject: RE: [rip] Specific request processing


  You should respond with whichever route the router will use for that destination,
  whether or not it is a RIP route. This is true for all queries.
  Gary Malkin             Cheap, fast, good... 
  508-870-1300 x254                Pick two! 

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Nanda kishore [mailto:kishoren@huawei.com]
  Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:06 AM
  To: rip@ietf.org; ripng@ietf.org
  Subject: [rip] Specific request processing


  Hi,

      In RIP, RIPng If we get a specific request for a particualr desination, RFC's say
  that we should respond without doing split-horizon processing. Does that mean that
  we should respond with only RIP route. 

  Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 210.1.1.0/24 and we got a specific request
  for that destination

      Case 1: There is a RIP route with cost 4 which is inactive (Administrative distance)
      Case 2: There is no RIP route to the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is there with cost XYZ)

  Which metric should we respond with. 

  Regards
  Nanda kishore
  -----------------------
  Senior Software Engineer
  Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.
  Leela Galleria, 
  Bangalore, India.
  Ph. 25265596 (R)
        25217152 Ext 662 (O)


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But the metric will be inconsistent.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For ospf / BGP metric may be more than 16 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How to respond send the metric in BGP say 
123456</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wont' it be invalid in a rip response. 
?.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Nanda kishore<BR>-----------------------<BR>Senior Software 
Engineer<BR>Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.<BR>Leela Galleria, <BR>Bangalore, 
India.<BR>Ph. 25265596 (R)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 25217152 Ext 662 
(O)</DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [rip] Specific request 
  processing</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>You 
  should respond with whichever route the router will use for that 
  destination,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>whether or not it is a RIP route. This is true for all 
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  <DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
  <P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Gary 
  Malkin&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Cheap, fast, good...</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>508-870-1300 
  x254&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Pick two!</FONT> </P></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Nanda kishore 
  [mailto:kishoren@huawei.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:06 
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:rip@ietf.org">rip@ietf.org</A>; <A 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In RIP, RIPng If we get a 
  specific request for a particualr desination, RFC's say</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>that we should respond without doing 
  split-horizon processing. Does that mean that</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we should respond with only RIP route. 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 
  </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>210.1.1.0/24 and we got a specific 
  request</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>for that destination</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 1: There is a&nbsp;RIP 
  route with cost 4 which is inactive (Administrative distance)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 2: There is no RIP route 
  to the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is there with cost XYZ)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Which&nbsp;metric should we respond with. 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nanda 
  kishore<BR>-----------------------<BR>Senior Software Engineer<BR>Huawei 
  Technology India Pvt. Ltd.<BR>Leela Galleria, <BR>Bangalore, India.<BR>Ph. 
  25265596 (R)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 25217152 Ext 662 
  (O)</FONT></DIV>
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That is true, but there isn't anything that can be done about it.
Unfortunately,
OSPF allows larger metrics than RIP and there we're stuck with it. In a case
like that, the only thing you can do is respond with "no such route." Any
other
response would be open to too much interpretation.
 
Gary
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Nanda kishore [mailto:kishoren@huawei.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:04 AM
To: gmalkin@toplayer.com; rip@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [rip] Specific request processing


But the metric will be inconsistent.
For ospf / BGP metric may be more than 16 
How to respond send the metric in BGP say 123456
Wont' it be invalid in a rip response. ?.
 
Nanda kishore
-----------------------
Senior Software Engineer
Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.
Leela Galleria, 
Bangalore, India.
Ph. 25265596 (R)
      25217152 Ext 662 (O)
 
 

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<mailto:rip@ietf.org>  ; ripng@ietf.org <mailto:ripng@ietf.org>  
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Subject: RE: [rip] Specific request processing

You should respond with whichever route the router will use for that
destination,
whether or not it is a RIP route. This is true for all queries.
Gary Malkin             Cheap, fast, good... 
508-870-1300 x254                Pick two! 

-----Original Message-----
From: Nanda kishore [mailto:kishoren@huawei.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:06 AM
To: rip@ietf.org <mailto:rip@ietf.org> ; ripng@ietf.org
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Subject: [rip] Specific request processing


Hi,
 
    In RIP, RIPng If we get a specific request for a particualr desination,
RFC's say
that we should respond without doing split-horizon processing. Does that
mean that
we should respond with only RIP route. 
 
Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 210.1.1.0/24 and we got a
specific request
for that destination
 
    Case 1: There is a RIP route with cost 4 which is inactive
(Administrative distance)
    Case 2: There is no RIP route to the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is
there with cost XYZ)
 
Which metric should we respond with. 
 
Regards
Nanda kishore
-----------------------
Senior Software Engineer
Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.
Leela Galleria, 
Bangalore, India.
Ph. 25265596 (R)
      25217152 Ext 662 (O)
 
 


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<DIV><SPAN class=453003317-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>That 
is true, but there isn't anything that can be done about it. 
Unfortunately,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=453003317-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>OSPF 
allows larger metrics than RIP and there we're stuck with it. In a 
case</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=453003317-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>like 
that, the only thing you can do is respond with "no such route." Any 
other</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=453003317-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>response would be open to too much interpretation.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=453003317-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=453003317-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Gary</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=453003317-18032004></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Nanda kishore 
[mailto:kishoren@huawei.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:04 
AM<BR><B>To:</B> gmalkin@toplayer.com; rip@ietf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [rip] 
Specific request processing<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But the metric will be inconsistent.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For ospf / BGP metric may be more than 16 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How to respond send the metric in BGP say 
123456</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wont' it be invalid in a rip response. 
?.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Nanda kishore<BR>-----------------------<BR>Senior Software 
Engineer<BR>Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.<BR>Leela Galleria, <BR>Bangalore, 
India.<BR>Ph. 25265596 (R)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 25217152 Ext 662 
(O)</DIV>
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  <A title=gmalkin@toplayer.com 
  href="mailto:gmalkin@toplayer.com">gmalkin@toplayer.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=kishoren@huawei.com 
  href="mailto:kishoren@huawei.com">kishoren@huawei.com</A> ; <A 
  title=rip@ietf.org href="mailto:rip@ietf.org">rip@ietf.org</A> ; <A 
  title=ripng@ietf.org href="mailto:ripng@ietf.org">ripng@ietf.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 18, 2004 8:58 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [rip] Specific request 
  processing</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>You 
  should respond with whichever route the router will use for that 
  destination,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>whether or not it is a RIP route. This is true for all 
  queries.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
  <P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Gary 
  Malkin&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Cheap, fast, good...</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>508-870-1300 
  x254&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Pick two!</FONT> </P></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Nanda kishore 
  [mailto:kishoren@huawei.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:06 
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:rip@ietf.org">rip@ietf.org</A>; <A 
  href="mailto:ripng@ietf.org">ripng@ietf.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> [rip] 
  Specific request processing<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In RIP, RIPng If we get a 
  specific request for a particualr desination, RFC's say</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>that we should respond without doing 
  split-horizon processing. Does that mean that</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we should respond with only RIP route. 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 
  </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>210.1.1.0/24 and we got a specific 
  request</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>for that destination</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 1: There is a&nbsp;RIP 
  route with cost 4 which is inactive (Administrative distance)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 2: There is no RIP route 
  to the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is there with cost XYZ)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Which&nbsp;metric should we respond with. 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nanda 
  kishore<BR>-----------------------<BR>Senior Software Engineer<BR>Huawei 
  Technology India Pvt. Ltd.<BR>Leela Galleria, <BR>Bangalore, India.<BR>Ph. 
  25265596 (R)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 25217152 Ext 662 
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That is true, but there isn't anything that can be done about it.
Unfortunately,
OSPF allows larger metrics than RIP and there we're stuck with it. In a case
like that, the only thing you can do is respond with "no such route." Any
other
response would be open to too much interpretation.
 
Gary
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Nanda kishore [mailto:kishoren@huawei.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:04 AM
To: gmalkin@toplayer.com; rip@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [rip] Specific request processing


But the metric will be inconsistent.
For ospf / BGP metric may be more than 16 
How to respond send the metric in BGP say 123456
Wont' it be invalid in a rip response. ?.
 
Nanda kishore
-----------------------
Senior Software Engineer
Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.
Leela Galleria, 
Bangalore, India.
Ph. 25265596 (R)
      25217152 Ext 662 (O)
 
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: gmalkin@toplayer.com <mailto:gmalkin@toplayer.com>  
To: kishoren@huawei.com <mailto:kishoren@huawei.com>  ; rip@ietf.org
<mailto:rip@ietf.org>  ; ripng@ietf.org <mailto:ripng@ietf.org>  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 8:58 PM
Subject: RE: [rip] Specific request processing

You should respond with whichever route the router will use for that
destination,
whether or not it is a RIP route. This is true for all queries.
Gary Malkin             Cheap, fast, good... 
508-870-1300 x254                Pick two! 

-----Original Message-----
From: Nanda kishore [mailto:kishoren@huawei.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:06 AM
To: rip@ietf.org <mailto:rip@ietf.org> ; ripng@ietf.org
<mailto:ripng@ietf.org> 
Subject: [rip] Specific request processing


Hi,
 
    In RIP, RIPng If we get a specific request for a particualr desination,
RFC's say
that we should respond without doing split-horizon processing. Does that
mean that
we should respond with only RIP route. 
 
Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 210.1.1.0/24 and we got a
specific request
for that destination
 
    Case 1: There is a RIP route with cost 4 which is inactive
(Administrative distance)
    Case 2: There is no RIP route to the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is
there with cost XYZ)
 
Which metric should we respond with. 
 
Regards
Nanda kishore
-----------------------
Senior Software Engineer
Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.
Leela Galleria, 
Bangalore, India.
Ph. 25265596 (R)
      25217152 Ext 662 (O)
 
 


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<DIV><SPAN class=453003317-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>That 
is true, but there isn't anything that can be done about it. 
Unfortunately,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=453003317-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>OSPF 
allows larger metrics than RIP and there we're stuck with it. In a 
case</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=453003317-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>like 
that, the only thing you can do is respond with "no such route." Any 
other</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=453003317-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>response would be open to too much interpretation.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=453003317-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=453003317-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Gary</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=453003317-18032004></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Nanda kishore 
[mailto:kishoren@huawei.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:04 
AM<BR><B>To:</B> gmalkin@toplayer.com; rip@ietf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [rip] 
Specific request processing<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But the metric will be inconsistent.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For ospf / BGP metric may be more than 16 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How to respond send the metric in BGP say 
123456</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wont' it be invalid in a rip response. 
?.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Nanda kishore<BR>-----------------------<BR>Senior Software 
Engineer<BR>Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.<BR>Leela Galleria, <BR>Bangalore, 
India.<BR>Ph. 25265596 (R)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 25217152 Ext 662 
(O)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=gmalkin@toplayer.com 
  href="mailto:gmalkin@toplayer.com">gmalkin@toplayer.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=kishoren@huawei.com 
  href="mailto:kishoren@huawei.com">kishoren@huawei.com</A> ; <A 
  title=rip@ietf.org href="mailto:rip@ietf.org">rip@ietf.org</A> ; <A 
  title=ripng@ietf.org href="mailto:ripng@ietf.org">ripng@ietf.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 18, 2004 8:58 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [rip] Specific request 
  processing</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>You 
  should respond with whichever route the router will use for that 
  destination,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>whether or not it is a RIP route. This is true for all 
  queries.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=765263215-18032004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
  <P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Gary 
  Malkin&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Cheap, fast, good...</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>508-870-1300 
  x254&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Pick two!</FONT> </P></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Nanda kishore 
  [mailto:kishoren@huawei.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:06 
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:rip@ietf.org">rip@ietf.org</A>; <A 
  href="mailto:ripng@ietf.org">ripng@ietf.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> [rip] 
  Specific request processing<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In RIP, RIPng If we get a 
  specific request for a particualr desination, RFC's say</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>that we should respond without doing 
  split-horizon processing. Does that mean that</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we should respond with only RIP route. 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 
  </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>210.1.1.0/24 and we got a specific 
  request</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>for that destination</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 1: There is a&nbsp;RIP 
  route with cost 4 which is inactive (Administrative distance)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 2: There is no RIP route 
  to the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is there with cost XYZ)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Which&nbsp;metric should we respond with. 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nanda 
  kishore<BR>-----------------------<BR>Senior Software Engineer<BR>Huawei 
  Technology India Pvt. Ltd.<BR>Leela Galleria, <BR>Bangalore, India.<BR>Ph. 
  25265596 (R)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 25217152 Ext 662 
  (O)</FONT></DIV>
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Hi,

    In RIP, RIPng If we get a specific request for a particualr desination, RFC's say
that we should respond without doing split-horizon processing. Does that mean that
we should respond with only RIP route. 

Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 210.1.1.0/24 and we got a specific request
for that destination

    Case 1: There is a RIP route with cost 4 which is inactive (Administrative distance)
    Case 2: There is no RIP route to the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is there with cost XYZ)

Which metric should we respond with. 

Regards
Nanda kishore
-----------------------
Senior Software Engineer
Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.
Leela Galleria, 
Bangalore, India.
Ph. 25265596 (R)
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In RIP, RIPng If we get a 
specific request for a particualr desination, RFC's say</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>that we should respond without doing split-horizon 
processing. Does that mean that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we should respond with only RIP route. 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Say there is a BGP/OSPF route for desination 
</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>210.1.1.0/24 and we got a specific 
request</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>for that destination</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 1: There is a&nbsp;RIP 
route with cost 4 which is inactive (Administrative distance)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Case 2: There is no RIP route to 
the destination (BGP/OSPF's route is there with cost XYZ)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Which&nbsp;metric should we respond with. 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nanda kishore<BR>-----------------------<BR>Senior 
Software Engineer<BR>Huawei Technology India Pvt. Ltd.<BR>Leela Galleria, 
<BR>Bangalore, India.<BR>Ph. 25265596 (R)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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