From nobody Mon Jan 18 13:40:35 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16F53A160C; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 13:40:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9q6GmjRiYwu7; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 13:40:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 418AB3A160E; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 13:39:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 0DD41F4074E; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 13:38:46 -0800 (PST) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, drafts-update-ref@iana.org, rtcweb@ietf.org Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20210118213846.0DD41F4074E@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 13:38:46 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: [rtcweb] =?utf-8?q?RFC_8825_on_Overview=3A_Real-Time_Protocols_f?= =?utf-8?q?or_Browser-Based_Applications?= X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 21:40:30 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8825 Title: Overview: Real-Time Protocols for Browser-Based Applications Author: H. Alvestrand Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: January 2021 Mailbox: harald@alvestrand.no Pages: 17 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview-19.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8825 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8825 This document gives an overview and context of a protocol suite intended for use with real-time applications that can be deployed in browsers -- "real-time communication on the Web". It intends to serve as a starting and coordination point to make sure that (1) all the parts that are needed to achieve this goal are findable and (2) the parts that belong in the Internet protocol suite are fully specified and on the right publication track. This document is an applicability statement -- it does not itself specify any protocol, but it specifies which other specifications implementations are supposed to follow to be compliant with Web Real-Time Communication (WebRTC). This document is a product of the Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Official Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Mon Jan 18 13:40:52 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618773A11A1; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 13:40:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XXIJFVs84HMx; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 13:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC97A3A10E0; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 13:39:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 8E835F407A7; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 13:39:00 -0800 (PST) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, drafts-update-ref@iana.org, rtcweb@ietf.org Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20210118213900.8E835F407A7@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 13:39:00 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: [rtcweb] =?utf-8?q?RFC_8826_on_Security_Considerations_for_WebRT?= =?utf-8?q?C?= X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 21:40:47 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8826 Title: Security Considerations for WebRTC Author: E. Rescorla Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: January 2021 Mailbox: ekr@rtfm.com Pages: 21 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rtcweb-security-12.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8826 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8826 WebRTC is a protocol suite for use with real-time applications that can be deployed in browsers -- "real-time communication on the Web". This document defines the WebRTC threat model and analyzes the security threats of WebRTC in that model. This document is a product of the Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Mon Jan 18 15:28:06 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456633A0CD4; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:28:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id snbG9iwnIZJd; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:28:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDA423A0A1D; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:28:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 9133CF40779; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:27:48 -0800 (PST) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, drafts-update-ref@iana.org, rtcweb@ietf.org Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20210118232748.9133CF40779@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:27:48 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: [rtcweb] =?utf-8?q?RFC_8828_on_WebRTC_IP_Address_Handling_Requir?= =?utf-8?q?ements?= X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 23:28:05 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8828 Title: WebRTC IP Address Handling Requirements Author: J. Uberti, G. Shieh Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: January 2021 Mailbox: justin@uberti.name, guoweis@gmail.com Pages: 9 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rtcweb-ip-handling-12.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8828 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8828 This document provides information and requirements for how IP addresses should be handled by Web Real-Time Communication (WebRTC) implementations. This document is a product of the Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Official Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Mon Jan 18 15:29:19 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B515C3A1154; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:29:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, CTE_8BIT_MISMATCH=0.998, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ia-mlcV-9AWI; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:29:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F33DA3A10C7; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:28:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id A3C23F4077C; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:28:38 -0800 (PST) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, drafts-update-ref@iana.org, rtcweb@ietf.org Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20210118232838.A3C23F4077C@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:28:38 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: [rtcweb] =?utf-8?q?RFC_8831_on_WebRTC_Data_Channels?= X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 23:29:17 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8831 Title: WebRTC Data Channels Author: R. Jesup, S. Loreto, M. Tüxen Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: January 2021 Mailbox: randell-ietf@jesup.org, salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com, tuexen@fh-muenster.de Pages: 14 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-channel-13.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8831 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8831 The WebRTC framework specifies protocol support for direct, interactive, rich communication using audio, video, and data between two peers' web browsers. This document specifies the non-media data transport aspects of the WebRTC framework. It provides an architectural overview of how the Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP) is used in the WebRTC context as a generic transport service that allows web browsers to exchange generic data from peer to peer. This document is a product of the Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Mon Jan 18 15:29:47 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08523A1022; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:29:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, CTE_8BIT_MISMATCH=0.998, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mGJP36czjxdI; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:29:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2D613A0FC7; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 99F6BF4079D; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:29:00 -0800 (PST) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, drafts-update-ref@iana.org, rtcweb@ietf.org Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20210118232900.99F6BF4079D@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:29:00 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: [rtcweb] =?utf-8?q?RFC_8832_on_WebRTC_Data_Channel_Establishment?= =?utf-8?q?_Protocol?= X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 23:29:45 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8832 Title: WebRTC Data Channel Establishment Protocol Author: R. Jesup, S. Loreto, M. Tüxen Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: January 2021 Mailbox: randell-ietf@jesup.org, salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com, tuexen@fh-muenster.de Pages: 12 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-protocol-09.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8832 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8832 The WebRTC framework specifies protocol support for direct interactive rich communication using audio, video, and data between two peers' web browsers. This document specifies a simple protocol for establishing symmetric data channels between the peers. It uses a two-way handshake and allows sending of user data without waiting for the handshake to complete. This document is a product of the Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Mon Jan 18 15:30:37 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF103A126C; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:30:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DSs55YvlxcYz; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:30:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9138A3A1164; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:29:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 48583F4078E; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:29:30 -0800 (PST) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, drafts-update-ref@iana.org, rtcweb@ietf.org Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20210118232930.48583F4078E@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:29:30 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: [rtcweb] =?utf-8?q?RFC_8833_on_Application-Layer_Protocol_Negoti?= =?utf-8?q?ation_=28ALPN=29_for_WebRTC?= X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 23:30:36 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8833 Title: Application-Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN) for WebRTC Author: M. Thomson Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: January 2021 Mailbox: martin.thomson@gmail.com Pages: 6 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rtcweb-alpn-04.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8833 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8833 This document specifies two Application-Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN) labels for use with Web Real-Time Communication (WebRTC). The "webrtc" label identifies regular WebRTC: a DTLS session that is used to establish keys for the Secure Real-time Transport Protocol (SRTP) or to establish data channels using the Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP) over DTLS. The "c-webrtc" label describes the same protocol, but the peers also agree to maintain the confidentiality of the media by not sharing it with other applications. This document is a product of the Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Mon Jan 18 15:31:22 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5483C3A14FC; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:31:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id svMaqpMLXpmw; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:31:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C32123A113A; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 83008F4079C; Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:29:58 -0800 (PST) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, drafts-update-ref@iana.org, rtcweb@ietf.org Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20210118232958.83008F4079C@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:29:58 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: [rtcweb] =?utf-8?q?RFC_8834_on_Media_Transport_and_Use_of_RTP_in?= =?utf-8?q?_WebRTC?= X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 23:31:17 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8834 Title: Media Transport and Use of RTP in WebRTC Author: C. Perkins, M. Westerlund, J. Ott Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: January 2021 Mailbox: csp@csperkins.org, magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com, ott@in.tum.de Pages: 39 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rtcweb-rtp-usage-26.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8834 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8834 The framework for Web Real-Time Communication (WebRTC) provides support for direct interactive rich communication using audio, video, text, collaboration, games, etc. between two peers' web browsers. This memo describes the media transport aspects of the WebRTC framework. It specifies how the Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP) is used in the WebRTC context and gives requirements for which RTP features, profiles, and extensions need to be supported. This document is a product of the Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. 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RFC 8835 Title: Transports for WebRTC Author: H. Alvestrand Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: January 2021 Mailbox: harald@alvestrand.no Pages: 13 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rtcweb-transports-17.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8835 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8835 This document describes the data transport protocols used by Web Real-Time Communication (WebRTC), including the protocols used for interaction with intermediate boxes such as firewalls, relays, and NAT boxes. This document is a product of the Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Official Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. 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RFC 8827 Title: WebRTC Security Architecture Author: E. Rescorla Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: January 2021 Mailbox: ekr@rtfm.com Pages: 35 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rtcweb-security-arch-20.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8827 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8827 This document defines the security architecture for WebRTC, a protocol suite intended for use with real-time applications that can be deployed in browsers -- "real-time communication on the Web". This document is a product of the Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Official Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. 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RFC 8854 Title: WebRTC Forward Error Correction Requirements Author: J. Uberti Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: January 2021 Mailbox: justin@uberti.name Pages: 10 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rtcweb-fec-10.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8854 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8854 This document provides information and requirements for the use of Forward Error Correction (FEC) by WebRTC implementations. This document is a product of the Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Official Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. 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RFC 8829 Title: JavaScript Session Establishment Protocol (JSEP) Author: J. Uberti, C. Jennings, E. Rescorla, Ed. Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: January 2021 Mailbox: justin@uberti.name, fluffy@iii.ca, ekr@rtfm.com Pages: 95 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rtcweb-jsep-26.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8829 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8829 This document describes the mechanisms for allowing a JavaScript application to control the signaling plane of a multimedia session via the interface specified in the W3C RTCPeerConnection API and discusses how this relates to existing signaling protocols. This document is a product of the Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. 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[108.31.39.252]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z30sm3557331qtd.21.2021.01.21.06.59.16 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Jan 2021 06:59:16 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Turner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Message-Id: <9331E58E-23EB-40B9-A70E-3586E0B4B467@sn3rd.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 09:59:15 -0500 To: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: [rtcweb] RTCWEB RFCs Published (aka draining cluster 238) X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 14:59:20 -0000 As you may have noticed over the last couple of days, all of RTCWEB=E2=80=99= s I-D have now be published as RFCs. Congratulations to all those who = participated. The SDP examples draft, which was a WG draft but ended up being = AD-sponsored after the WG closed down, is still making its way through = the process. 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This will also unblock publication of the WebRTC PeerConnection API as a W3C Recommendation. Blocked Drain 238 - YouTube On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 6:59 AM Sean Turner wrote: > As you may have noticed over the last couple of days, all of RTCWEB=E2=80= =99s I-D > have now be published as RFCs. Congratulations to all those who > participated. > > The SDP examples draft, which was a WG draft but ended up being > AD-sponsored after the WG closed down, is still making its way through th= e > process. > > Cheers, > spt > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > --000000000000e1669b05b96b3ec1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Many thanks on the heroic efforts to unbl= ock cluster 238.=C2=A0 This will also unblock publication of the WebRTC Pee= rConnection API as a W3C Recommendation.


On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 6:59 AM Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote:
As you may have noticed over the last coup= le of days, all of RTCWEB=E2=80=99s I-D have now be published as RFCs. Cong= ratulations to all those who participated.

The SDP examples draft, which was a WG draft but ended up being AD-sponsore= d after the WG closed down, is still making its way through the process.
Cheers,
spt
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Kucherawy" Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:35:21 -0800 Message-ID: To: rtcweb@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000015740905b9875229" Archived-At: Subject: [rtcweb] Updating JSEP and BUNDLE X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2021 01:35:36 -0000 --00000000000015740905b9875229 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Colleagues, In the final run-up to publication of C238, it was observed that the JSEP and BUNDLE documents contradict each other in a significant way. Rather than send them back to the working group to resolve, delaying publication further for an unknown duration, the authors and Area Directors involved reached consensus to publish the entire cluster as it was originally approved, with a note added that acknowledges the contradiction (without proposing solutions), and stating that the IETF will quickly take up the work to publish updates. The specific text is visible as Section 1.3 of RFC 8829 and 1.4 of RFC 8843. The IESG intends to reconstitute the RTCWEB working group to resolve this contradiction, with a scope to resolve only that specific issue and publish a couple of document updates. The plan is to have this rechartering in place in time for a meeting at IETF 110 in March. Below is the proposed re-chartering for the RTCWEB working group. Feedback on this is welcome, either on the rtcweb@ietf.org list, to me privately, or to the IESG. We will start the formal process of review and approval on the next IESG telechat, and have already requested a session during IETF 110 to get the work going. -MSK, ART AD -- The RTCWEB working group was originally chartered to standardize mechanisms that provide direct interactive rich communication using audio, video, collaboration, games, etc. between two peers' web-browsers, without requiring non-standard extensions or proprietary plug-ins. The result was a set of RFCs from RTCWEB, in addition to many other RFCs from other working groups, all of which are interrelated and had to be published together in what the RFC Editor refers to as a =E2=80=9Ccluster=E2=80=9D. = In the end, that cluster comprised more than 40 RFCs and was finally published in January 2021. During the run-up to publication of the cluster, a contradiction was identified between what became RFCs 8829 and 8843. A description of this contradiction was added to both documents to highlight the problem, and state our intention to proceed with publication but quickly initiate an effort to publish updates to the affected documents. The key part of the added text was as follows: =E2=80=9CThe specific issue involves the handling of "m=3D" sections that a= re designated as bundle-only, as discussed in Section 4.1.1 of [RFC 8829]. Currently, there is divergence between JSEP and BUNDLE, as well as between these specifications and existing browser implementations =E2=80=A6=E2=80= =9D The working group is being reconstituted to take up this contradiction, come to consensus on a resolution, and issue Standards Track updates for those two documents. Updating any other document, or taking up any other issue, is out of scope and will require IESG approval via rechartering. --00000000000015740905b9875229 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Colleagues,


In the final run-up to publication of C238, it was observe= d that the JSEP and BUNDLE documents contradict each other in a significant= way.


Rather than send them back to the working group to resolve, delay= ing publication further for an unknown duration, the authors and Area Direc= tors involved reached consensus to publish the entire cluster as it was ori= ginally approved, with a note added that acknowledges the contradiction (wi= thout proposing solutions), and stating that the IETF will quickly take up = the work to publish updates.=C2=A0 The specific text is visible as Section = 1.3 of RFC 8829 and 1.4 of RFC 8843.


The IESG intends to reconstitute t= he RTCWEB working group to resolve this contradiction, with a scope to reso= lve only that specific issue and publish a couple of document updates.=C2= =A0 The plan is to have this rechartering in place in time for a meeting at= IETF 110 in March.


Below is the proposed re-chartering for the RTCWEB = working group.=C2=A0 Feedback on this is welcome, either on the rtcweb@ietf.org list, to me privately, or to th= e IESG.=C2=A0 We will start the formal process of review and approval on th= e next IESG telechat, and have already requested a session during IETF 110 = to get the work going.


-MSK, ART AD


-= -

=

<= span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-= color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;tex= t-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The RTCWEB = working group was originally chartered to standardize mechanisms that provi= de direct interactive rich communication using audio, video, collaboration,= games, etc. between two peers' web-browsers, without requiring non-sta= ndard extensions or proprietary plug-ins.=C2=A0 The result was a set of RFC= s from RTCWEB, in addition to many other RFCs from other working groups, al= l of which are interrelated and had to be published together in what the RF= C Editor refers to as a =E2=80=9Ccluster=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 In the end, that c= luster comprised more than 40 RFCs and was finally published in January 202= 1.


During the run-up to publication of the cluster, a contradiction was= identified between what became RFCs 8829 and 8843.=C2=A0 A description of = this contradiction was added to both documents to highlight the problem, an= d state our intention to proceed with publication but quickly initiate an e= ffort to publish updates to the affected documents.


The key part of the= added text was as follows:

=E2=80=9CThe specific issue involves the h= andling of "m=3D" sections that are designated as bundle-only, as= discussed in Section 4.1.1 of [RFC 8829].=C2=A0 Curr= ently, there is divergence between JSEP and BUNDLE, as well as between thes= e specifications and existing browser implementations =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D


The working group is being reconstituted to take up this contradiction, c= ome to consensus on a resolution, and issue Standards Track updates for tho= se two documents.=C2=A0 Updating any other document, or taking up any other= issue, is out of scope and will require IESG approval via rechartering.

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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am cross posting this to MMUSIC as BUNDLE was a MMUSIC document, and this issue has to my understanding still not been conveyed to the MMUSIC WG partipants.=20 First, I am a bit concerned that this is done in a RTCWeb WG without any requirement on interaction with MMUSIC. BUNDLE is a general SDP O/A mechani= sm and not specific to RTCWebs usage in JSEP. Thus, I am worried about that ch= anges are applied to BUNDLE that works fine for JSEP, but affect the interoperabi= lity with general case SDP O/A usages.=20 Secondly, the citiation below includes the following: "... and existing bro= wser implementations." I think that gives an impression that RTCWeb browser=20 implementations can be used trump over general SDP O/A interoperability and= also other implementation, even of WebRTC, that this alignment fix could p= otentially impact.=20 Thus, I would prefer a different wording than referring to a statement that= was intended to be informative that there exists an issue. I would notet that t= he statement was quickly written, that a limited set of people had any chance = to see prior to its publication.=20 In addition I think the scope can be narrowed even further than to just the Bundle-only part of BUNDLE and JSEP, to only the aspect that is missaligned= . Cheers Magnus Westerlund On Fri, 2021-01-22 at 17:35 -0800, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > Colleagues, >=20 > In the final run-up to publication of C238, it was observed that the JSEP= and > BUNDLE documents contradict each other in a significant way. >=20 > Rather than send them back to the working group to resolve, delaying > publication further for an unknown duration, the authors and Area Directo= rs > involved reached consensus to publish the entire cluster as it was origin= ally > approved, with a note added that acknowledges the contradiction (without > proposing solutions), and stating that the IETF will quickly take up the = work > to publish updates. The specific text is visible as Section 1.3 of RFC 8= 829 > and 1.4 of RFC 8843. >=20 > The IESG intends to reconstitute the RTCWEB working group to resolve this > contradiction, with a scope to resolve only that specific issue and publi= sh a > couple of document updates. The plan is to have this rechartering in pla= ce in > time for a meeting at IETF 110 in March. >=20 > Below is the proposed re-chartering for the RTCWEB working group. Feedba= ck on > this is welcome, either on the rtcweb@ietf.org list, to me privately, or = to > the IESG. We will start the formal process of review and approval on the= next > IESG telechat, and have already requested a session during IETF 110 to ge= t the > work going. >=20 > -MSK, ART AD=20 >=20 > -- >=20 > The RTCWEB working group was originally chartered to standardize mechanis= ms > that provide direct interactive rich communication using audio, video, > collaboration, games, etc. between two peers' web-browsers, without requi= ring > non-standard extensions or proprietary plug-ins. The result was a set of= RFCs > from RTCWEB, in addition to many other RFCs from other working groups, al= l of > which are interrelated and had to be published together in what the RFC E= ditor > refers to as a =E2=80=9Ccluster=E2=80=9D. In the end, that cluster compr= ised more than 40 > RFCs and was finally published in January 2021. >=20 > During the run-up to publication of the cluster, a contradiction was > identified between what became RFCs 8829 and 8843. A description of this > contradiction was added to both documents to highlight the problem, and s= tate > our intention to proceed with publication but quickly initiate an effort = to > publish updates to the affected documents. >=20 > The key part of the added text was as follows: >=20 > =E2=80=9CThe specific issue involves the handling of "m=3D" sections that= are designated > as bundle-only, as discussed in Section 4.1.1 of [RFC 8829]. Currently, = there > is divergence between JSEP and BUNDLE, as well as between these specifica= tions > and existing browser implementations =E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D >=20 > The working group is being reconstituted to take up this contradiction, c= ome > to consensus on a resolution, and issue Standards Track updates for those= two > documents. Updating any other document, or taking up any other issue, is= out > of scope and will require IESG approval via rechartering. > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb --=-A87+fg8l/93L25Vt4dS3 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCCErYw ggX0MIID3KADAgECAg8BdlE9InYZOYLl1zGep4IwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwRzELMAkGA1UEBhMC U0UxETAPBgNVBAoMCEVyaWNzc29uMSUwIwYDVQQDDBxFcmljc3NvbiBOTCBJbmRpdmlkdWFsIENB IHYzMB4XDTIwMTIxMTA5NTg0OVoXDTIzMTIxMjA5NTg0OVowXjERMA8GA1UECgwIRXJpY3Nzb24x GjAYBgNVBAMMEU1hZ251cyBXZXN0ZXJsdW5kMS0wKwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFh5tYWdudXMud2VzdGVy bHVuZEBlcmljc3Nvbi5jb20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQCIT6U9ddUp UCEryIA27xtF8WsRAIfc5jBavfu0OGDmwITYYRD2PaMEdEK+I4dqz0f6xcCrDnBk2Xj+JxjhaRkq 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following errata report has been submitted for RFC8832, "WebRTC Data Channel Establishment Protocol". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6411 -------------------------------------- Type: Technical Reported by: Victor Boivie Section: 5 Original Text ------------- 5. Message Formats Every Data Channel Establishment Protocol message starts with a one byte field called "Message Type" which indicates the type of the message. The corresponding values are managed by IANA (see Section 8.2.1). Corrected Text -------------- 5. Message Formats Every Data Channel Establishment Protocol message starts with a one byte field called "Message Type" which indicates the type of the message. The corresponding values are managed by IANA (see Section 8.2.1). All integer fields in an Data Channel Establishment Protocol message MUST be transmitted in network byte order, unless otherwise stated. Notes ----- The byte order of integer fields in the protocol messages is not defined. Instructions: ------------- This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. 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Kucherawy" , Barry Leiba , sean+ietf@sn3rd.com, boivie@google.com, RTCWeb IETF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f392c405b9bd09c1" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [rtcweb] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8832 (6411) X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:41:00 -0000 --000000000000f392c405b9bd09c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since the Data Channel Establishment Protocol depends on SCTP, which requires Network Byte Order (RFC 4960, Section 3), I do not believe that this erratum is needed. I recommend it be rejected. Just my personal opinion, regards, Ted On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:28 AM RFC Errata System wrote: > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8832, > "WebRTC Data Channel Establishment Protocol". > > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6411 > > -------------------------------------- > Type: Technical > Reported by: Victor Boivie > > Section: 5 > > Original Text > ------------- > 5. Message Formats > > Every Data Channel Establishment Protocol message starts with a one > byte field called "Message Type" which indicates the type of the > message. The corresponding values are managed by IANA (see > Section 8.2.1). > > Corrected Text > -------------- > 5. Message Formats > > Every Data Channel Establishment Protocol message starts with a one > byte field called "Message Type" which indicates the type of the > message. The corresponding values are managed by IANA (see > Section 8.2.1). > > All integer fields in an Data Channel Establishment Protocol message > MUST be transmitted in network byte order, unless otherwise stated. > > Notes > ----- > The byte order of integer fields in the protocol messages is not defined. > > Instructions: > ------------- > This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. > > -------------------------------------- > RFC8832 (draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-protocol-09) > -------------------------------------- > Title : WebRTC Data Channel Establishment Protocol > Publication Date : January 2021 > Author(s) : R. Jesup, S. Loreto, M. T=C3=BCxen > Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > Source : Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers > Area : Applications and Real-Time > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG > --000000000000f392c405b9bd09c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Since the Data Channel Establishment Protocol depends= on SCTP, which requires Network Byte Order (RFC 4960, Section 3), I do not= believe that this erratum is needed.=C2=A0 I recommend it be rejected.
=

Just my personal opinion,

regards,

Ted

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:= 28 AM RFC Errata System <rf= c-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
The following errata report has been submitted for R= FC8832,
"WebRTC Data Channel Establishment Protocol".

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You may review the report below and at:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6411

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Type: Technical
Reported by: Victor Boivie <boivie@google.com>

Section: 5

Original Text
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5.=C2=A0 Message Formats

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Every Data Channel Establishment Protocol message starts with = a one
=C2=A0 =C2=A0byte field called "Message Type" which indicates the= type of the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0message.=C2=A0 The corresponding values are managed by IANA (s= ee
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Section 8.2.1).

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5.=C2=A0 Message Formats

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Every Data Channel Establishment Protocol message starts with = a one
=C2=A0 =C2=A0byte field called "Message Type" which indicates the= type of the
=C2=A0 =C2=A0message.=C2=A0 The corresponding values are managed by IANA (s= ee
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Section 8.2.1).

=C2=A0 =C2=A0All integer fields in an Data Channel Establishment Protocol m= essage
=C2=A0 =C2=A0MUST be transmitted in network byte order, unless otherwise st= ated.

Notes
-----
The byte order of integer fields in the protocol messages is not defined.
Instructions:
-------------
This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, ple= ase
use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party=C2=A0
can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.

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RFC8832 (draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-protocol-09)
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Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: WebRTC Data C= hannel Establishment Protocol
Publication Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 : January 2021
Author(s)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: R. Jesup, S. Loreto, M.= T=C3=BCxen
Category=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Real-Time Communic= ation in WEB-browsers
Area=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Applications = and Real-Time
Stream=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : IETF
Verifying Party=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: IESG
--000000000000f392c405b9bd09c1-- From nobody Mon Jan 25 10:34:08 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B173A1727 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:34:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3tf1WaNTrhz7 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:34:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lf1-f41.google.com (mail-lf1-f41.google.com [209.85.167.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FC0C3A172C for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:34:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lf1-f41.google.com with SMTP id a8so19249268lfi.8 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:34:02 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uUZi+KkQZxGM2AHfbCAwcqw8E2oyiz8dqThZmF5sThY=; b=EoU4iic6t488wwW01GvNKqxRzSz1B7LSgACxHeq4G057JdMYlVrMfDENGr9FyQFX7g 8K2bpXhc9f7D4u/q0BvTUSAO23hodoa5muUjgCq2GjB90MqcKN7WpfeENNJ7mjSq5Gez WnNEYUmfXhceA8TZEbmYg7Y/U1/SqH79ePmwuo8HK7PRQAvp4+x9IDkfom7yOznZ5QbC qxILmWwmm+UK6HUtAZlxxjajcBrVgEoa4gexAOBOekz7FTEL40PeanJBj1qcOlF8UXFJ tkLzwRFaBzjh/Jv26XFcgrXHR5J7etcSIEcWQ2ebN5Z1VSwnbdxk0KBOaEAFv+sEZpyb gcbw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530wqgd/nxT+YPrNc5SLIzBHe2wJ826XvePZGOj2T+u9sLwCTX9X LMkF0i3LZ+BSH1Vp6fioZIvgwgrQOsVuAeUiMv0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxJxx9eW1l1sU4KgLS9cqVz+wmyaJSPslj9OC3XAnKEIjebgY9UrAgUP/1WqydjozKtjhDJ8iqT/bmIdiXakjY= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:592a:: with SMTP id v10mr830241lfi.123.1611599640076; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:34:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210125092848.3AF95F40764@rfc-editor.org> In-Reply-To: From: Barry Leiba Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 13:33:48 -0500 Message-ID: To: Victor Boivie Cc: Ted Hardie , RFC Errata System , Randell Jesup , Salvatore Loreto , Michael Tuexen , "Murray S. Kucherawy" , sean+ietf@sn3rd.com, RTCWeb IETF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [rtcweb] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8832 (6411) X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 18:34:06 -0000 >From the point of view of "errata", though, the question is whether this was an omission that would have been fixed if it had been caught at the time of publication... or something that was not put in because it was considered to be covered elsewhere, so not an "error" in the RFC. It seems the latter, not the former. Barry On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:21 PM Victor Boivie wrote: > > While I absolutely accept that rationale, Data Channel Establishment Prot= ocol is layered on top of SCTP, and is not an SCTP extension (where I would= definitely agree with what you're saying). > > While I can't see what the future brings, I could envision an evolution o= f RFC8832 being layered on top of e.g. QUIC or SRT, would the WebRTC projec= t decide to change the underlying protocol from SCTP to something else in t= he future. That would be a separate RFC, though. > > Thanks and best regards, > Victor > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 6:40 PM Ted Hardie wrote: >> >> Since the Data Channel Establishment Protocol depends on SCTP, which req= uires Network Byte Order (RFC 4960, Section 3), I do not believe that this = erratum is needed. I recommend it be rejected. >> >> Just my personal opinion, >> >> regards, >> >> Ted >> >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:28 AM RFC Errata System wrote: >>> >>> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8832, >>> "WebRTC Data Channel Establishment Protocol". >>> >>> -------------------------------------- >>> You may review the report below and at: >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6411 >>> >>> -------------------------------------- >>> Type: Technical >>> Reported by: Victor Boivie >>> >>> Section: 5 >>> >>> Original Text >>> ------------- >>> 5. Message Formats >>> >>> Every Data Channel Establishment Protocol message starts with a one >>> byte field called "Message Type" which indicates the type of the >>> message. The corresponding values are managed by IANA (see >>> Section 8.2.1). >>> >>> Corrected Text >>> -------------- >>> 5. Message Formats >>> >>> Every Data Channel Establishment Protocol message starts with a one >>> byte field called "Message Type" which indicates the type of the >>> message. The corresponding values are managed by IANA (see >>> Section 8.2.1). >>> >>> All integer fields in an Data Channel Establishment Protocol message >>> MUST be transmitted in network byte order, unless otherwise stated. >>> >>> Notes >>> ----- >>> The byte order of integer fields in the protocol messages is not define= d. >>> >>> Instructions: >>> ------------- >>> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please >>> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >>> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party >>> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. >>> >>> -------------------------------------- >>> RFC8832 (draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-protocol-09) >>> -------------------------------------- >>> Title : WebRTC Data Channel Establishment Protocol >>> Publication Date : January 2021 >>> Author(s) : R. Jesup, S. Loreto, M. T=C3=BCxen >>> Category : PROPOSED STANDARD >>> Source : Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers >>> Area : Applications and Real-Time >>> Stream : IETF >>> Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Mon Jan 25 10:37:19 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1373A172D for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:37:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.42 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.42 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.399, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CjY6lR6PI0pK for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:37:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from drew.franken.de (drew.ipv6.franken.de [IPv6:2001:638:a02:a001:20e:cff:fe4a:feaa]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D05863A172C for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:37:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2a02:8109:1140:c3d:8cdb:3c2b:1f77:6217] (unknown [IPv6:2a02:8109:1140:c3d:8cdb:3c2b:1f77:6217]) (Authenticated sender: macmic) by mail-n.franken.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE86B7220C6D1; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:37:08 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Tuexen Message-Id: <65E4DC3A-8FC9-48D3-9D2D-9EF62117A8D7@fh-muenster.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A7EA20FE-A82F-4774-B4C5-2189DEE9BD61"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.40.0.2.32\)) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:37:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: Cc: RFC Errata System , Randell Jesup , Salvatore Loreto , "Murray S. Kucherawy" , Barry Leiba , sean+ietf@sn3rd.com, boivie@google.com, RTCWeb IETF To: Ted Hardie References: <20210125092848.3AF95F40764@rfc-editor.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.40.0.2.32) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [rtcweb] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8832 (6411) X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 18:37:18 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_A7EA20FE-A82F-4774-B4C5-2189DEE9BD61 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 25. Jan 2021, at 18:40, Ted Hardie wrote: >=20 > Since the Data Channel Establishment Protocol depends on SCTP, which = requires Network Byte Order (RFC 4960, Section 3), I do not believe that = this erratum is needed. I recommend it be rejected. The text in RFC 4960 Section 3 covers the fields of the SCTP protocol, = it does not cover the payload, which is DCEP. >=20 > Just my personal opinion, In my opinion we just forgot to state that all fields should be in = network byte order. The fields are definitely intended to be in network byte order. Therefore, I think the report is valid. Best regards Michael >=20 > regards, >=20 > Ted >=20 > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:28 AM RFC Errata System = wrote: > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8832, > "WebRTC Data Channel Establishment Protocol". >=20 > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6411 >=20 > -------------------------------------- > Type: Technical > Reported by: Victor Boivie >=20 > Section: 5 >=20 > Original Text > ------------- > 5. Message Formats >=20 > Every Data Channel Establishment Protocol message starts with a one > byte field called "Message Type" which indicates the type of the > message. The corresponding values are managed by IANA (see > Section 8.2.1). >=20 > Corrected Text > -------------- > 5. Message Formats >=20 > Every Data Channel Establishment Protocol message starts with a one > byte field called "Message Type" which indicates the type of the > message. The corresponding values are managed by IANA (see > Section 8.2.1). >=20 > All integer fields in an Data Channel Establishment Protocol = message > MUST be transmitted in network byte order, unless otherwise stated. >=20 > Notes > ----- > The byte order of integer fields in the protocol messages is not = defined. >=20 > Instructions: > ------------- > This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party =20 > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------- > RFC8832 (draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-protocol-09) > -------------------------------------- > Title : WebRTC Data Channel Establishment Protocol > Publication Date : January 2021 > Author(s) : R. Jesup, S. Loreto, M. 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boundary="Apple-Mail=_2B95244D-A8F2-4A7F-BE81-AFA8F7B1E6C3"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.40.0.2.32\)) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 19:38:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: Cc: Victor Boivie , Ted Hardie , RFC Errata System , Randell Jesup , Salvatore Loreto , "Murray S. Kucherawy" , sean+ietf@sn3rd.com, RTCWeb IETF To: Barry Leiba References: <20210125092848.3AF95F40764@rfc-editor.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.40.0.2.32) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [rtcweb] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8832 (6411) X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 18:38:27 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_2B95244D-A8F2-4A7F-BE81-AFA8F7B1E6C3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 25. Jan 2021, at 19:33, Barry Leiba = wrote: >=20 > =46rom the point of view of "errata", though, the question is whether > this was an omission that would have been fixed if it had been caught > at the time of publication... or something that was not put in because It was an omission. Best regards Michael > it was considered to be covered elsewhere, so not an "error" in the > RFC. >=20 > It seems the latter, not the former. >=20 > Barry >=20 > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:21 PM Victor Boivie = wrote: >>=20 >> While I absolutely accept that rationale, Data Channel Establishment = Protocol is layered on top of SCTP, and is not an SCTP extension (where = I would definitely agree with what you're saying). >>=20 >> While I can't see what the future brings, I could envision an = evolution of RFC8832 being layered on top of e.g. QUIC or SRT, would the = WebRTC project decide to change the underlying protocol from SCTP to = something else in the future. That would be a separate RFC, though. >>=20 >> Thanks and best regards, >> Victor >>=20 >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 6:40 PM Ted Hardie = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Since the Data Channel Establishment Protocol depends on SCTP, which = requires Network Byte Order (RFC 4960, Section 3), I do not believe that = this erratum is needed. I recommend it be rejected. >>>=20 >>> Just my personal opinion, >>>=20 >>> regards, >>>=20 >>> Ted >>>=20 >>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:28 AM RFC Errata System = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8832, >>>> "WebRTC Data Channel Establishment Protocol". >>>>=20 >>>> -------------------------------------- >>>> You may review the report below and at: >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6411 >>>>=20 >>>> -------------------------------------- >>>> Type: Technical >>>> Reported by: Victor Boivie >>>>=20 >>>> Section: 5 >>>>=20 >>>> Original Text >>>> ------------- >>>> 5. Message Formats >>>>=20 >>>> Every Data Channel Establishment Protocol message starts with a = one >>>> byte field called "Message Type" which indicates the type of the >>>> message. The corresponding values are managed by IANA (see >>>> Section 8.2.1). >>>>=20 >>>> Corrected Text >>>> -------------- >>>> 5. Message Formats >>>>=20 >>>> Every Data Channel Establishment Protocol message starts with a = one >>>> byte field called "Message Type" which indicates the type of the >>>> message. The corresponding values are managed by IANA (see >>>> Section 8.2.1). >>>>=20 >>>> All integer fields in an Data Channel Establishment Protocol = message >>>> MUST be transmitted in network byte order, unless otherwise = stated. >>>>=20 >>>> Notes >>>> ----- >>>> The byte order of integer fields in the protocol messages is not = defined. >>>>=20 >>>> Instructions: >>>> ------------- >>>> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, = please >>>> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >>>> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party >>>> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. >>>>=20 >>>> -------------------------------------- >>>> RFC8832 (draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-protocol-09) >>>> -------------------------------------- >>>> Title : WebRTC Data Channel Establishment Protocol >>>> Publication Date : January 2021 >>>> Author(s) : R. Jesup, S. Loreto, M. 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SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rmDxS7we4xtu for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:28:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mork.alvestrand.no (mork.alvestrand.no [158.38.152.117]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F6223A017E for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:28:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.3.157] (unknown [188.113.93.42]) by mork.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA9F87C64F6 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 10:28:01 +0100 (CET) To: rtcweb@ietf.org References: <20210125092848.3AF95F40764@rfc-editor.org> From: Harald Alvestrand Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 10:28:01 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210125092848.3AF95F40764@rfc-editor.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [rtcweb] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8832 (6411) X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:28:05 -0000 I recommend this to be "accepted, held for update". Just to have said this before the merge (which may be late or may be never) ... I see no reason for allowing "unless otherwise stated", and the new sentence should come before the existing paragraph, not after it. On 1/25/21 10:28 AM, RFC Errata System wrote: > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8832, > "WebRTC Data Channel Establishment Protocol". > > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6411 > > -------------------------------------- > Type: Technical > Reported by: Victor Boivie > > Section: 5 > > Original Text > ------------- > 5. Message Formats > > Every Data Channel Establishment Protocol message starts with a one > byte field called "Message Type" which indicates the type of the > message. The corresponding values are managed by IANA (see > Section 8.2.1). > > Corrected Text > -------------- > 5. Message Formats > > Every Data Channel Establishment Protocol message starts with a one > byte field called "Message Type" which indicates the type of the > message. The corresponding values are managed by IANA (see > Section 8.2.1). > > All integer fields in an Data Channel Establishment Protocol message > MUST be transmitted in network byte order, unless otherwise stated. > > Notes > ----- > The byte order of integer fields in the protocol messages is not defined. > > Instructions: > ------------- > This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. > > -------------------------------------- > RFC8832 (draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-protocol-09) > -------------------------------------- > Title : WebRTC Data Channel Establishment Protocol > Publication Date : January 2021 > Author(s) : R. Jesup, S. Loreto, M. Tüxen > Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > Source : Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers > Area : Applications and Real-Time > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb