From rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 04 15:33:16 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EY8FQ-000607-95; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:33:16 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EY8FO-0005zu-LN for rtg-dir@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:33:14 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA11735; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62] ident=mailnull) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EY8UR-0001SI-Oa; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:48:49 -0500 Received: from [147.28.0.62] (helo=usmovnazinin.alcatel.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52 (FreeBSD)) id 1EY8FG-0004gu-VX; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 20:33:07 +0000 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 12:33:04 -0800 From: Alex Zinin X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <419280719.20051104123304@psg.com> To: rtg-dir@ietf.org, rtg-chairs@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 30ac594df0e66ffa5a93eb4c48bcb014 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: RTG dinner X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Zinin List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Folks- How about our regular dinner on Monday night? Both rtg-dir members and chairs are invited. Please ack. -- Alex http://www.psg.com/~zinin From rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 04 17:40:25 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYAET-0002in-Hh; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:40:25 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYAER-0002ic-FO for rtg-dir@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:40:23 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA18386; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:39:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-dark.research.att.com ([192.20.225.112] helo=mail-yellow.research.att.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EYATV-00051J-Hc; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:55:58 -0500 Received: from bright.research.att.com (bright.research.att.com [135.207.20.189]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9726147BEA; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:40:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by bright.research.att.com (8.12.11/8.12.10/Submit) id jA4MeCUK018910; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:40:12 -0800 From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <200511042240.jA4MeCUK018910@bright.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: "Alex Zinin" Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:40:12 -0800 Versions: dmail (linux) 2.7/makemail 2.14 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8ac499381112328dd60aea5b1ff596ea Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, rtg-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: RTG dinner X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Actually, can we do Tuesday night? I have a previous engagement on Monday night. I don't know if many people are planning on going to the social, which would make this a problem too. Bill From rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Fri Nov 04 20:47:04 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYD96-0003LV-Sp; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 20:47:04 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYD96-0003LO-0c for rtg-dir@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 20:47:04 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA27949; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 20:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62] ident=mailnull) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EYDOB-0001RD-LR; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 21:02:40 -0500 Received: from [147.28.0.62] (helo=usmovnazinin.alcatel.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52 (FreeBSD)) id 1EYD91-00067E-3k; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 01:46:59 +0000 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:46:56 -0800 From: Alex Zinin X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1601326637.20051104174656@psg.com> To: Bill Fenner In-Reply-To: <200511042240.jA4MeCUK018910@bright.research.att.com> References: <200511042240.jA4MeCUK018910@bright.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 1ac7cc0a4cd376402b85bc1961a86ac2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, rtg-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: RTG dinner X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Zinin List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org I could make Tue work. How's everybody else with it? -- Alex http://www.psg.com/~zinin Friday, November 4, 2005, 2:40:12 PM, Bill Fenner wrote: > Actually, can we do Tuesday night? I have a previous engagement on > Monday night. I don't know if many people are planning on going to > the social, which would make this a problem too. > Bill From rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Sat Nov 05 15:33:59 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYUjf-0002o2-AX; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 15:33:59 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYUjd-0002np-Fl for rtg-dir@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 15:33:57 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA17931; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 15:33:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from adsl-66-120-207-101.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net ([66.120.207.101] helo=coffee.rawdofmt.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EYUyt-0002Ti-2m; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 15:49:44 -0500 Received: from [???IPv6:::1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by coffee.rawdofmt.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A416D3DCC8B; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 12:33:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1601326637.20051104174656@psg.com> References: <200511042240.jA4MeCUK018910@bright.research.att.com> <1601326637.20051104174656@psg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <34EC8E7D-1C27-4F15-A52B-74D2601544E6@rawdofmt.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Christian Hopps Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 12:33:41 -0800 To: Alex Zinin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bill Fenner , rtg-dir@ietf.org, Christian Hopps , rtg-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: RTG dinner X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org I signed up for the social it sounded really good. So I can't make Tuesday. Chris. On Nov 4, 2005, at 5:46 PM, Alex Zinin wrote: > I could make Tue work. How's everybody else with it? > > -- > Alex > http://www.psg.com/~zinin > > Friday, November 4, 2005, 2:40:12 PM, Bill Fenner wrote: > >> Actually, can we do Tuesday night? I have a previous engagement on >> Monday night. I don't know if many people are planning on going to >> the social, which would make this a problem too. > >> Bill From rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 07 00:50:57 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYzuD-0005ok-Mh; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 00:50:57 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYzuC-0005od-P6 for rtg-dir@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 00:50:56 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA15779; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 00:50:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62] ident=mailnull) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EZ09j-0000Jh-MU; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 01:07:00 -0500 Received: from [147.28.0.62] (helo=usmovnazinin.alcatel.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52 (FreeBSD)) id 1EYzu7-000KLI-Qd; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 05:50:51 +0000 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:50:46 -0800 From: Alex Zinin X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <149681919.20051106215046@psg.com> To: George Swallow In-Reply-To: <20051107031949.F101F165F26@swallow-mini-mac.local> References: Your message of "Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:08:15 EST." <14A3581A-36AF-4B61-A0FA-BD693FAAF447@cisco.com> <20051107031949.F101F165F26@swallow-mini-mac.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08e48e05374109708c00c6208b534009 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, rtg-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: RTG dinner X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Zinin List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org OK, folks, let's schedule it for Tue night. Let's meet at 8pm, in the HOTEL Lobby. -- Alex http://www.psg.com/~zinin From rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 07 18:41:16 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZGc0-00029G-7N; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:41:16 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZGby-000291-HK for rtg-dir@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:41:14 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA17622; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 18:40:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from colo-dns-ext2.juniper.net ([207.17.137.64]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EZGrd-0004qE-N5; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:57:28 -0500 Received: from merlot.juniper.net (merlot.juniper.net [172.17.27.10]) by colo-dns-ext2.juniper.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id jA7Nf2Bm037713; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:41:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rcallon@juniper.net) Received: from rcallon-lt1.juniper.net ([172.24.236.2]) by merlot.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id jA7Nf2G28467; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:41:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rcallon@juniper.net) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20051107183846.016c6420@zircon.juniper.net> X-Sender: rcallon@zircon.juniper.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:40:21 -0500 To: Alex Zinin From: Ross Callon In-Reply-To: <149681919.20051106215046@psg.com> References: <20051107031949.F101F165F26@swallow-mini-mac.local> <14A3581A-36AF-4B61-A0FA-BD693FAAF447@cisco.com> <20051107031949.F101F165F26@swallow-mini-mac.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 1ac7cc0a4cd376402b85bc1961a86ac2 Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, rtg-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: RTG dinner X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org At 09:50 PM 11/6/2005 -0800, Alex Zinin wrote: >OK, folks, let's schedule it for Tue night. >Let's meet at 8pm, in the HOTEL Lobby. > >-- >Alex >http://www.psg.com/~zinin Can you send out email regarding where you are going? I will be just getting out of OPSEC, and will try to be on time but might be late. Thanks, Ross From rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 08 17:47:51 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZcFr-0004xM-9P; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 17:47:51 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZcFp-0004xH-TG for rtg-dir@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 17:47:49 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA11575 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-red.research.att.com ([192.20.225.110] helo=mail-white.research.att.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EZcVh-0003bY-BE for rtg-dir@ietf.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:04:15 -0500 Received: from bright.research.att.com (bright.research.att.com [135.207.20.189]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DB5849D for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:47:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by bright.research.att.com (8.12.11/8.12.10/Submit) id jA8MlXQW026102; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:47:33 -0800 From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <200511082247.jA8MlXQW026102@bright.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: rtg-dir@ietf.org Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:47:33 -0800 Versions: dmail (linux) 2.7/makemail 2.14 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 4b800b1eab964a31702fa68f1ff0e955 Subject: FYI: draft-rja-ripv2-auth-03.txt to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org I just wanted to forward this if anyone is interested in the RIPv2 authentication update. I doubt any particular review is required since the mechanism itself isn't changing, just algorithms. Bill The IESG is evaluating the following document: - 'RIPv2 Cryptographic Authentication ' for publication as a Proposed Standard This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an IETF Working Group. The IESG contact person is Russ Housley. A URL of this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rja-ripv2-auth-01.txt Technical Summary This document updates the existing RIPv2 cryptographic authentication mechanism specification (RFC 2082) to add support for the SHA-1 family of hash algorithms using the widely accepted HMAC approach, while retaining the existing use of Keyed MD5 for backwards compatibility. This enhancement provides a broader range of cryptographic choice to operators, while retaining backwards compatibility with the existing specification. The SHA-1 family of algorithms is generally considered to be stronger and have a longer useful future operational life than MD5. The HMAC approach is now widely accepted by the IETF and so is used for the new algorithms, while retaining the historic "Keyed Hash" approach for the existing MD5 algorithm in order to retain backwards compatibility and interoperability with existing implementations. The SHA-1 family of algorithms happens to be a US Federal Information Processing Publication (which are developed by NIST), but the family of algorithms are broadly accepted globally, with several different countries having a formal preference for that family of hash functions over other hash functions. Once approved, this document will replace RFC 2082. Working Group Summary This is an individual submission. It is not the product of any working group, and it has not been reviewed by any IETF working group. The document was is co-authored by someone at NIST, and it was also reviewed by several other people at NIST. The other author is one of the original authors of this mechanism (from RFC 2082). The desirability of undertaking this enhancement was discussed several months ago on the IETF Security Area Advisory Group (SAAG) mailing list. Protocol Quality The original specification in RFC 2082 is very widely implemented and has demonstrated broad interoperability among a number of router vendors. It is also available in at least one freely available RIPv2 implementation for UNIX. The new specification has not yet been implemented. However, the new protocol varies from the previous version only in the addition of support for additional cryptographic algorithms. Thus, no implementation issues are expected. This document was reviewed by Russ Housley for the IESG. From rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Tue Nov 08 23:01:28 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZh9M-0002ub-OO; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:01:28 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZh9L-0002uU-8m for rtg-dir@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:01:27 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA09838; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:00:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62] ident=mailnull) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EZhPE-0006oS-KS; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:17:55 -0500 Received: from [147.28.0.62] (helo=usmovnazinin.alcatel.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52 (FreeBSD)) id 1EZh9G-0007f6-TO; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 04:01:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 20:01:16 -0800 From: Alex Zinin X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1708763364.20051108200116@psg.com> To: Ross Callon In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20051107183846.016c6420@zircon.juniper.net> References: <20051107031949.F101F165F26@swallow-mini-mac.local> <14A3581A-36AF-4B61-A0FA-BD693FAAF447@cisco.com> <20051107031949.F101F165F26@swallow-mini-mac.local> <5.0.0.25.2.20051107183846.016c6420@zircon.juniper.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7bac9cb154eb5790ae3b2913587a40de Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, Ron Bonica , rtg-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: RTG dinner: reservation X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Zinin List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org OK, folks we have a reservation for 12 people at "Le Crocodile" at 8:30pm. Address: 909 Burrard. This should be within 10-15m of walking distance. -- Alex From rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Nov 28 07:00:16 2005 Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Eghg8-0006kM-6O; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:00:16 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Eghg7-0006kH-9d for rtg-dir@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:00:15 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA23244 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 06:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.20.225.110] (helo=mail-white.research.att.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eghzy-0002Qv-RF for rtg-dir@ietf.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:20:47 -0500 Received: from mango.attlabs.att.com (mango.attlabs.att.com [135.197.128.36]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE5E8617 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:00:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mango.attlabs.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mango.attlabs.att.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jASC023h014856 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 04:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by mango.attlabs.att.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id jASC01Up014855 for rtg-dir@ietf.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 04:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fenner) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 04:00:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200511281200.jASC01Up014855@mango.attlabs.att.com> From: fenner@research.att.com (Bill Fenner) To: rtg-dir@ietf.org (Routing Area Directorate) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f460acdc4aacf7fc5e6f9bd32f8fd8c6 Subject: IESG agenda for 2005-12-01 telechat. X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org IESG Agenda Good approximation of what will be included in the Agenda of next Telechat (2005-12-01). Updated 2:2:28 EDT, November 28, 2005 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Roll Call 1.2 Bash the Agenda 1.3 Approval of the Minutes of the past telechat 1.4 List of Remaining Action Items from Last Telechat 1.5 Review of Projects 2. Protocol Actions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable basis on which to build the salient part of the Internet infrastructure? If not, what changes would make it so?" 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item Area Date RTG Detecting MPLS Data Plane Failures (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 20 draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-10.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: ITU requires an RFC number by December 12th. Token: Alex Zinin INT Four-Document ballot: [Open Web Ballot] - 2 of 20 Resolution of FQDN Conflicts among DHCP Clients (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 20 draft-ietf-dhc-ddns-resolution-10.txt Note: 11/21/05: Check for last minute IETF LC comments before telechat. A DNS RR for Encoding DHCP Information (DHCID RR) (Proposed Standard) draft-ietf-dnsext-dhcid-rr-10.txt The DHCP Client FQDN Option (Proposed Standard) draft-ietf-dhc-fqdn-option-11.txt Note: Note: 3 related DDNS documents need to be reconciled. See email to dhcwg list on 2003-06-05. The DHCPv6 Client FQDN Option (Proposed Standard) draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-fqdn-03.txt Token: Margaret Wasserman TSV Definitions of Managed Objects for FCIP (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 20 draft-ietf-ips-fcip-mib-09.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: PROTO shepherd black_david@emc.com Token: Allison Mankin RTG Multiprotocol Extensions for BGP-4 (Draft Standard) - 4 of 20 draft-ietf-idr-rfc2858bis-07.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Bill Fenner Remote Network Monitoring Management OPS Nov 15 Information Base Version 2 (Draft Standard) - 5 of 20 draft-ietf-rmonmib-rmon2-v2-05.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Bert Wijnen INT Mobile IPv4 Dynamic Home Agent Assignment (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 20 draft-ietf-mip4-dynamic-assignment-06.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Margaret Wasserman Signaling System 7 (SS7) Message Transfer Part TSV 3 (MTP3) - User Adaptation Layer (M3UA) (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 20 draft-ietf-sigtran-rfc3332bis-05.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Jon Peterson RTG Avoiding Equal Cost Multipath Treatment in MPLS Networks (BCP) - 8 of 20 draft-ietf-mpls-ecmp-bcp-02.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Alex Zinin INT Foreign Agent Error Extension for Mobile IPv4 (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 20 draft-ietf-mip4-faerr-02.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Margaret Wasserman CIPID: Contact Information in Presence APP Information Data Format (Proposed Standard) - 10 of 20 draft-ietf-simple-cipid-06.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Ted Hardie RPID: Rich Presence Extensions to the Presence APP Information Data Format (PIDF) (Proposed Standard) - 11 of 20 draft-ietf-simple-rpid-09.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: The proto write-up (available in tracker comment log) discusses why this document was not combined with cipid and future, despite them being interconnected. Rough consensus for this approach does seem evident. Token: Ted Hardie Timed Presence Extensions to the Presence APP Information Data Format (PIDF) to Indicate Status Information for Past and Future Time Intervals (Proposed Standard) - 12 of 20 draft-ietf-simple-future-04.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Ted Hardie OPS RADIUS Extension for Digest Authentication (Proposed Standard) - 13 of 20 draft-ietf-radext-digest-auth-06.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: Note: Bernard Aboba is the proto shepherd Token: David Kessens OPS Nov 17 Transmission of IPv6, IPv4 and ARP Packets over Fibre Channel (Proposed Standard) - 14 of 20 draft-ietf-imss-ip-over-fibre-channel-03.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Bert Wijnen INT DHCPv6 Relay Agent Remote ID Option (Proposed Standard) - 15 of 20 draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-remoteid-00.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Margaret Wasserman INT DHCPv6 Relay Agent Subscriber-ID Option (Proposed Standard) - 16 of 20 draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-subid-00.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Margaret Wasserman An ENUM Registry Type for the Internet Registry TSV Information Service (Proposed Standard) - 17 of 20 draft-ietf-enum-iris-ereg-02.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: Finishes Last Call on October 27. On IESG agenda, however LC comments urged and will be heeded. Token: Allison Mankin RTG Management Information Base for IS-IS (Proposed Standard) - 18 of 20 draft-ietf-isis-wg-mib-24.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Alex Zinin APP A Data Model for Presence (Proposed Standard) - 19 of 20 draft-ietf-simple-presence-data-model-06.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: Much of the language here reflects long discussion and compromise. Please recognize that when suggesting wordsmithing changes. Token: Ted Hardie SEC Two-Document ballot: [Open Web Ballot] - 20 of 20 A PRF API extension for the GSS-API (Proposed Standard) - 20 of 20 draft-ietf-kitten-gssapi-prf-07.txt Note: proto shepherd: jaltman@columbia.edu A PRF for the Kerberos V GSS-API Mechanism (Proposed Standard) draft-ietf-kitten-krb5-gssapi-prf-04.txt Token: Sam Hartman 2.1.2 Returning Item Area Date TSV Jun 18 SDP: Session Description Protocol (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 3 draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-new-25.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: Ancient returning item: no longer has enough ballot positions to advance. Mercy for these poor souls, new reviewers! Token: Jon Peterson Mapping Between the Multimedia Messaging APP Service (MMS) and Internet Mail (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 3 draft-ietf-lemonade-mms-mapping-06.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: This is returning post-appeal processing by the WG and post replacement IETF Last Call. If we can complete this on 12/1, it will likely be referenced by OMA (currently the text is copied) Token: Ted Hardie INT Detecting Network Attachment in IPv4 (DNAv4) (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 3 draft-ietf-dhc-dna-ipv4-17.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: This document has changed substantially since the IESG reviewed version -12 based on post-LC comments. Back for a re-review before sending to the RFC Editor. Token: Margaret Wasserman 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item Area Date SEC RIPv2 Cryptographic Authentication (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1 draft-rja-ripv2-auth-03.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Russ Housley 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.1.1 New Item Area Date A Framework for Supporting Emergency TSV Telecommunications Services (ETS) Within a Single Administrative Domain (Informational) - 1 of 5 draft-ietf-ieprep-domain-frame-05.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Jon Peterson OPS BGP MED Considerations (Informational) - 2 of 5 draft-ietf-grow-bgp-med-considerations-04.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: Note: Dave Meyer is the protoshepherd Token: David Kessens RTG Two-Document ballot: [Open Web Ballot] - 3 of 5 OAM Requirements for MPLS Networks (Informational) - 3 of 5 draft-ietf-mpls-oam-requirements-06.txt Note: ITU requires an RFC number by December 12th. A Framework for MPLS Operations and Management (OAM) (Informational) draft-ietf-mpls-oam-frmwk-03.txt Token: Alex Zinin Signaling Requirements for Point to RTG Multipoint Traffic Engineered MPLS LSPs (Informational) - 4 of 5 draft-ietf-mpls-p2mp-sig-requirement-03.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Alex Zinin INT NEMO Home Network models (Informational) - 5 of 5 draft-ietf-nemo-home-network-models-05.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Margaret Wasserman 3.1.2 Returning Item Area Date OPS Operational Considerations and Issues with IPv6 DNS (Informational) - 1 of 1 draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-12.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: To check (for the second time) on the status of the resolution of Thomas Narten/ Margaret Wasserman's DISCUSS. Token: David Kessens 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.2.1 New Item NONE 3.2.2 Returning Item Area Date SEC UMAC: Message Authentication Code using Universal Hashing (Informational) - 1 of 1 draft-krovetz-umac-07.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Russ Housley 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor The IESG will use RFC 3932 responses: 1) The IESG has not found any conflict between this document and IETF work; 2) The IESG thinks that this work is related to IETF work done in WG , but this does not prevent publishing; 3) The IESG thinks that publication is harmful to work in WG and recommends not publishing at this time; 4) The IESG thinks that this document violates the IETF procedures for and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval; 5) The IESG thinks that this document extends an IETF protocol in a way that requires IETF review and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval. Other matters may be recorded in comments to be passed on to the RFC Editor as community review of the document. 3.3.1 New Item Area Date GEN Nov 23 The Managed Object Aggregation MIB (Informational) - 1 of 1 draft-glenn-mo-aggr-mib-07.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Bert Wijnen 3.3.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3.3 For Action Area Date INT DISCOVER: Supporting Multicast DNS Queries (Experimental) - 1 of 1 draft-manning-opcode-discover-02.txt Note: Note: Submitted to RFC Editor, being treated as an ISR. Token: Brian Carpenter 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review Area Date RTG Nov 11 Multiprotocol Label Switching (mpls) - 1 of 1 Token: Alex 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval Area Date TSV Oct 20 Telephone Number Mapping (enum) - 1 of 2 Token: Allison INT Nov 11 Softwires (softwire) - 2 of 2 Token: Mark 5. IAB News We Can Use 6. Management Issues 7. Working Group News