From rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 09 07:04:06 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GWsvO-0003Ae-Bf; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:03:58 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GWsvO-0003AZ-0g for rtg-dir@ietf.org; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:03:58 -0400 Received: from alnrmhc13.comcast.net ([206.18.177.53]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GWsvK-0008Sy-J6 for rtg-dir@ietf.org; Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:03:57 -0400 Received: from frogbits.attlabs.att.com (c-67-188-114-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[67.188.114.134]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc13) with ESMTP id <20061009110343b1300l5073e>; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:03:53 +0000 Received: from frogbits.attlabs.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frogbits.attlabs.att.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k99B0AaR004861 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 04:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner@frogbits.attlabs.att.com) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by frogbits.attlabs.att.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k99B08sX004860 for rtg-dir@ietf.org; Mon, 9 Oct 2006 04:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 04:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200610091100.k99B08sX004860@frogbits.attlabs.att.com> From: fenner@research.att.com (Bill Fenner) To: rtg-dir@ietf.org (Routing Area Directorate) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f0b5a4216bfa030ed8a6f68d1833f8ae Subject: IESG agenda for 2006-10-12 telechat. X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org IESG Agenda Good approximation of what will be included in the Agenda of next Telechat (2006-10-12). Updated 2:2:34 EDT, October 9, 2006 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Roll Call 1.2 Bash the Agenda 1.3 Approval of the Minutes of the past telechat 1.4 List of Remaining Action Items from Last Telechat 1.5 Review of Projects 2. Protocol Actions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable basis on which to build the salient part of the Internet infrastructure? If not, what changes would make it so?" 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item Area Date TSV Two-Document ballot: [Open Web Ballot] - 1 of 8 Direct Data Placement over Reliable Transports (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 8 draft-ietf-rddp-ddp-07.txt Note: PROTO Shepherd: David Black (Black_David@emc.com) GEN-ART Reviewer: Francis Dupont (Francis.Dupont@point6.net) A Remote Direct Memory Access Protocol Specification (Proposed Standard) draft-ietf-rddp-rdmap-07.txt Token: Lars Eggert TSV Marker PDU Aligned Framing for TCP Specification (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 8 draft-ietf-rddp-mpa-07.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: PROTO Shepherd: David Black (black_david@emc.com) Gen-ART Reviewer: Eric Gray (Eric.Gray@marconi.com) Token: Lars Eggert OPS Operation of Anycast Services (BCP) - 3 of 8 draft-ietf-grow-anycast-04.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: PROTO Shepherd: Geoff Huston Token: David Kessens The SDP (Session Description Protocol) RAI Content Attribute (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 8 draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-media-content-06.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: PROTO shepherd is Colin Perkins Token: Cullen Jennings Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP) TSV Direct Data Placement (DDP) Adaptation (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 8 draft-ietf-rddp-sctp-07.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: PROTO Shepherd: David Black (Black_David@emc.com) Gen-ART Reviewer: Eric Gray (Eric.Gray@marconi.com) Token: Lars Eggert TSV Aggregation of RSVP Reservations over MPLS TE /DS-TE Tunnels (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 8 draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-dste-05.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: Gen-ART Reviewer: Sharon Chisholm (schishol@nortel.com) Token: Magnus Westerlund INT DNSSEC Experiments (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 8 draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-experiments-03.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Mark Townsley INT SONET/SDH Circuit Emulation over Packet (CEP) (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 8 draft-ietf-pwe3-sonet-13.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Mark Townsley 2.1.2 Returning Item NONE 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item NONE 2.2.2 Returning Item Area Date SEC RIPv2 Cryptographic Authentication (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2 draft-rja-ripv2-auth-05.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: Back on the agenda to see if the latest update includes all of the points in the security considerations to clear Sam's DISCUSS position. Token: Russ Housley GEN Progressive Posting Rights Supsensions (BCP) - 2 of 2 draft-carpenter-rescind-3683-02.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Sam Hartman 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.1.1 New Item Area Date INT DNSSEC Opt-In (Experimental) - 1 of 6 draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-opt-in-09.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Mark Townsley Requirements for Multicast in L3 INT Provider-Provisioned VPNs (Informational) - 2 of 6 draft-ietf-l3vpn-ppvpn-mcast-reqts-09.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Mark Townsley TSV Quick-Start for TCP and IP (Experimental) - 3 of 6 draft-ietf-tsvwg-quickstart-06.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: Document Shepherd: James Polk (jmpolk@cisco.com) Gen-ART Reviewer: Francis Dupont (Francis.Dupont@fdupont.fr) Token: Lars Eggert Structure-aware TDM Circuit Emulation Service INT over Packet Switched Network (CESoPSN) (Informational) - 4 of 6 draft-ietf-pwe3-cesopsn-07.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Mark Townsley INT TDM over IP (Informational) - 5 of 6 draft-ietf-pwe3-tdmoip-05.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Mark Townsley TSV QoS Signaling in a Nested Virtual Private Network (Informational) - 6 of 6 draft-ietf-tsvwg-vpn-signaled-preemption-01.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Magnus Westerlund 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.2.1 New Item Area Date Security Implications of Using the Data SEC Encryption Standard (DES) (Informational) - 1 of 1 draft-kelly-saag-des-implications-05.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Russ Housley 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor The IESG will use RFC 3932 responses: 1) The IESG has not found any conflict between this document and IETF work; 2) The IESG thinks that this work is related to IETF work done in WG , but this does not prevent publishing; 3) The IESG thinks that publication is harmful to work in WG and recommends not publishing at this time; 4) The IESG thinks that this document violates the IETF procedures for and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval; 5) The IESG thinks that this document extends an IETF protocol in a way that requires IETF review and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval. Other matters may be recorded in comments to be passed on to the RFC Editor as community review of the document. 3.3.1 New Item NONE 3.3.2 Returning Item NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval Area Date SEC Sep 22 Network Endpoint Assessment (nea) - 1 of 2 Token: Russ SEC Sep 22 Handover Keying (hokey) - 2 of 2 Token: Russ 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 5. IAB News We Can Use 6. Management Issues 6.1 Sayre Appeal (Brian Carpenter) 7. Working Group News From rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Tue Oct 10 16:55:04 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GXOcs-0002VC-5s; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:54:58 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GXOcq-0002Ue-UC; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:54:56 -0400 Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GXOcp-00061R-Kt; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:54:56 -0400 Received: from rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com ([64.102.121.159]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Oct 2006 16:54:56 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,291,1157342400"; d="scan'208"; a="106444498:sNHT55489544" Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9AKstH2028978; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:54:55 -0400 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k9AKstDM015060; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.38]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:54:54 -0400 Received: from [10.82.224.123] ([10.82.224.123]) by xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:54:54 -0400 Message-ID: <452C089D.5090204@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:54:53 -0400 From: Acee Lindem User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Ward References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2006 20:54:54.0609 (UTC) FILETIME=[567C5010:01C6ECAE] DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; l=2059; t=1160513695; x=1161377695; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=acee@cisco.com; z=From:Acee=20Lindem=20 |Subject:Re=3A=20[Fwd=3A=20[mpls]=20WG=20Last=20Call=20on=20draft-ietf-mpls-numbe r-0-bw-te-lsps-02.txt] |To:David=20Ward=20; X=v=3Dcisco.com=3B=20h=3Dv8FxVGcUsEpRLhXR761boAs862s=3D; b=QJ1sviq7MVNhCYU5bxpKj4tv/KlTZ8+YKRghSOBTQQYUykKBZd1IN2tmWlha/nsWBCy+RbS7 R5llvhUS3aVwWXTPh4E9ua5xJt684co3y0JncErBWCR+FYp5Nuokecqc; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com; header.From=acee@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 41c17b4b16d1eedaa8395c26e9a251c4 Cc: George Swallow , rtg-dir@ietf.org, isis-wg@ietf.org, Jean Philippe Vasseur , ospf@ietf.org, Loa Andersson Subject: Re: [Fwd: [mpls] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps-02.txt] X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org I've reviewed the subject document and don't have any comments on it from the perspective of the OSPF WG. However, I have the following comments as a member of the routing directorate (copying JP): 1. Why the cryptic sub-TLV name? RFC 3630 doesn't define short cryptic names for sub-TLVs so I don't really see why you've defined NB-0-BW-LSP? Why not just call it the Unconstrained LSP Count sub-TLV? Or at least come up with a better short name :^), e.g. BW-0-LSP-CNT. 2. How did you arrive at 19 for the suggested value for the sub-TLV type? I checked IANA and 18 is the next available. I may be missing a document though. 3. Do you want to reserve a value (e.g., 0xffffffff) to indicate no unconstrained LSPs are to traverse a given link. 4. Nit - in section 4, replace "OSPF LSA" with "OSPF LSAs" and "ISIS LSP" with "ISIS LSPs". Thanks, Acee David Ward wrote: > Do you want our WG to review? Co-Last Call (as we have for other WG that > affect our protocol)? Do you have a desired date for end of last call from > the IGPs? > > Thanks > > -DWard > > > On 9/4/06 5:01 AM, "Loa Andersson" wrote: > > >> All, >> >> the MPLS working group want to notify the ospf and is-s >> working groups, as well as the routing directorate that >> we are currently doing a wg last call on >> draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps-02.txt. >> >> Loa and George >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: [mpls] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps-02.txt >> Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 10:08:10 +0200 >> From: Loa Andersson >> Organization: Acreo AB >> To: mpls@ietf.org >> >> Working Group, >> >> this initiates a two week working group last call on >> draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps-02.txt >> >> The wg last call ends on September 17. >> >> Please send comments to the working group mailing list and/or >> the working group chairs. >> >> /Loa and George >> > > From rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Tue Oct 10 17:03:24 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GXOl2-0006Y8-Ma; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:03:24 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GXOl0-0006Xq-Ok; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:03:22 -0400 Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com ([64.102.122.148]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GXOkz-00070W-Ff; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:03:22 -0400 Received: from rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com ([64.102.121.159]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 10 Oct 2006 14:03:21 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,291,1157353200"; d="scan'208"; a="45564425:sNHT75748880" Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-core-1.cisco.com [64.102.124.12]) by rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9AL3LPF000622; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:03:21 -0400 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k9AL3LYJ008944; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.21]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:03:20 -0400 Received: from [10.82.224.123] ([10.82.224.123]) by xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:03:20 -0400 Message-ID: <452C0A97.5010501@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:03:19 -0400 From: Acee Lindem User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jean Philippe Vasseur References: <452C089D.5090204@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <452C089D.5090204@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2006 21:03:20.0622 (UTC) FILETIME=[8417C4E0:01C6ECAF] DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; l=2379; t=1160514201; x=1161378201; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=acee@cisco.com; z=From:Acee=20Lindem=20 |Subject:Re=3A=20[Fwd=3A=20[mpls]=20WG=20Last=20Call=20on=20draft-ietf-mpls-numbe r-0-bw-te-lsps-02.txt] |To:Jean=20Philippe=20Vasseur=20; X=v=3Dcisco.com=3B=20h=3Dv8FxVGcUsEpRLhXR761boAs862s=3D; b=TUgN47ymFlXgFDkDPsX1S+iKcFCAh4v20rW/pWiBWOQ348OqpV7YkPJD0YG8fPIqC+8t38vq wm1rWxcnTIpq4J+35c7S0IUOaRO4afS6AtQwjKQNb1gzj5zT2oZd+TPj; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com; header.From=acee@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b280b4db656c3ca28dd62e5e0b03daa8 Cc: George Swallow , rtg-dir@ietf.org, isis-wg@ietf.org, ospf@ietf.org, David Ward , Loa Andersson Subject: Re: [Fwd: [mpls] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps-02.txt] X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org JP, One more comment - Please write the document so that it can apply to OSPFv3 TE as well. The existing draft can be an informative reference (draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-traffic-07.txt) Thanks, Acee Acee Lindem wrote: > I've reviewed the subject document and don't have any comments on it > from the perspective of the OSPF WG. However, I have the following > comments as a member of the routing directorate (copying JP): > > 1. Why the cryptic sub-TLV name? RFC 3630 doesn't define short > cryptic names for sub-TLVs so I don't really see why you've defined > NB-0-BW-LSP? Why not just call it the Unconstrained LSP Count > sub-TLV? > Or at least come up with a better short name :^), e.g. > BW-0-LSP-CNT. > 2. How did you arrive at 19 for the suggested value for the sub-TLV > type? I checked > IANA and 18 is the next available. I may be missing a document > though. > 3. Do you want to reserve a value (e.g., 0xffffffff) to indicate no > unconstrained > LSPs are to traverse a given link. > 4. Nit - in section 4, replace "OSPF LSA" with "OSPF LSAs" and "ISIS > LSP" > with "ISIS LSPs". > > Thanks, > Acee > > David Ward wrote: >> Do you want our WG to review? Co-Last Call (as we have for other WG that >> affect our protocol)? Do you have a desired date for end of last call >> from >> the IGPs? >> >> Thanks >> >> -DWard >> >> >> On 9/4/06 5:01 AM, "Loa Andersson" wrote: >> >> >>> All, >>> >>> the MPLS working group want to notify the ospf and is-s >>> working groups, as well as the routing directorate that >>> we are currently doing a wg last call on >>> draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps-02.txt. >>> >>> Loa and George >>> >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: [mpls] WG Last Call on >>> draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps-02.txt >>> Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 10:08:10 +0200 >>> From: Loa Andersson >>> Organization: Acreo AB >>> To: mpls@ietf.org >>> >>> Working Group, >>> >>> this initiates a two week working group last call on >>> draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps-02.txt >>> >>> The wg last call ends on September 17. >>> >>> Please send comments to the working group mailing list and/or >>> the working group chairs. >>> >>> /Loa and George >>> >> >> > > From rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 19 05:21:02 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GaU5G-0002kb-Jq; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:21:02 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GaA4Q-0003Se-Bj; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:58:50 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com ([171.68.10.87]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GaA4O-0000Yf-Vo; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:58:50 -0400 Received: from sj-dkim-7.cisco.com ([171.68.10.88]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Oct 2006 04:58:48 -0700 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com (sj-core-3.cisco.com [171.68.223.137]) by sj-dkim-7.cisco.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9IBwl2W012877; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:58:47 -0700 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k9IBwhbF027672; Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.174]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:58:43 -0700 Received: from [172.16.6.19] ([10.21.144.251]) by xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 04:58:42 -0700 In-Reply-To: <452C0A97.5010501@cisco.com> References: <452C089D.5090204@cisco.com> <452C0A97.5010501@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <614CB204-756D-4FF4-8B70-453755EEC8B0@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: JP Vasseur Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:58:42 -0400 To: Acee Lindem X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2006 11:58:42.0809 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1E73690:01C6F2AC] DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; l=2717; t=1161172727; x=1162036727; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim7002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=jvasseur@cisco.com; z=From:JP=20Vasseur=20 |Subject:Re=3A=20[Isis-wg]=20Re=3A=20[Fwd=3A=20[mpls]=20WG=20Last=20Call=20on=20d raft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps-02.txt]; X=v=3Dcisco.com=3B=20h=3D3K9s1Dqh68mGdh5nghD5CSU9Fy8=3D; b=RPsJjrqbGVC+UPwGU4gcT9IV7eOmWmJhKFJNmHy7GFed7jGh5/kdKv+2kY0CE6qyd77gVWoF EcBAB/80gcwy8o/IzJx9+LPf9MM1pH12IKCX2gGpqR+LDErw2DyGcICs; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-7.cisco.com; header.From=jvasseur@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 5011df3e2a27abcc044eaa15befcaa87 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:21:01 -0400 Cc: George Swallow , rtg-dir@ietf.org, Loa Andersson , isis-wg@ietf.org, ospf@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] Re: [Fwd: [mpls] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps-02.txt] X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Hi Acee, On Oct 10, 2006, at 5:03 PM, Acee Lindem wrote: > JP, > > One more comment - Please write the document so that it can > apply to OSPFv3 TE as well. The existing draft can be an informative > reference (draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-traffic-07.txt) > Will do. Thanks. JP. > Thanks, > Acee > > Acee Lindem wrote: >> I've reviewed the subject document and don't have any comments on it >> from the perspective of the OSPF WG. However, I have the following >> comments as a member of the routing directorate (copying JP): >> >> 1. Why the cryptic sub-TLV name? RFC 3630 doesn't define short >> cryptic names for sub-TLVs so I don't really see why you've >> defined >> NB-0-BW-LSP? Why not just call it the Unconstrained LSP >> Count sub-TLV? >> Or at least come up with a better short name :^), e.g. BW-0- >> LSP-CNT. >> 2. How did you arrive at 19 for the suggested value for the sub- >> TLV type? I checked >> IANA and 18 is the next available. I may be missing a >> document though. >> 3. Do you want to reserve a value (e.g., 0xffffffff) to >> indicate no unconstrained >> LSPs are to traverse a given link. >> 4. Nit - in section 4, replace "OSPF LSA" with "OSPF LSAs" and >> "ISIS LSP" >> with "ISIS LSPs". >> >> Thanks, >> Acee >> David Ward wrote: >>> Do you want our WG to review? Co-Last Call (as we have for other >>> WG that >>> affect our protocol)? Do you have a desired date for end of last >>> call from >>> the IGPs? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> -DWard >>> >>> >>> On 9/4/06 5:01 AM, "Loa Andersson" wrote: >>> >>> >>>> All, >>>> >>>> the MPLS working group want to notify the ospf and is-s >>>> working groups, as well as the routing directorate that >>>> we are currently doing a wg last call on >>>> draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps-02.txt. >>>> >>>> Loa and George >>>> >>>> >>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> Subject: [mpls] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te- >>>> lsps-02.txt >>>> Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 10:08:10 +0200 >>>> From: Loa Andersson >>>> Organization: Acreo AB >>>> To: mpls@ietf.org >>>> >>>> Working Group, >>>> >>>> this initiates a two week working group last call on >>>> draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps-02.txt >>>> >>>> The wg last call ends on September 17. >>>> >>>> Please send comments to the working group mailing list and/or >>>> the working group chairs. >>>> >>>> /Loa and George >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Isis-wg mailing list > Isis-wg@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/isis-wg From rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 23 07:17:53 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GbxoT-00060k-0B; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:17:49 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GbxoP-0005tB-Vb for rtg-dir@ietf.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:17:45 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([63.240.77.83]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gbxat-0000Bo-JE for rtg-dir@ietf.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:03:50 -0400 Received: from frogbits.attlabs.att.com (c-67-188-114-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[67.188.114.134]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2006102311034401300hphrhe>; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:03:44 +0000 Received: from frogbits.attlabs.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frogbits.attlabs.att.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k9NB0AFY013101 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner@frogbits.attlabs.att.com) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by frogbits.attlabs.att.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k9NB084A013099 for rtg-dir@ietf.org; Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 04:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200610231100.k9NB084A013099@frogbits.attlabs.att.com> From: fenner@research.att.com (Bill Fenner) To: rtg-dir@ietf.org (Routing Area Directorate) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8cb9b411340046bf4080a729180a0672 Subject: IESG agenda for 2006-10-26 telechat. X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org IESG Agenda Good approximation of what will be included in the Agenda of next Telechat (2006-10-26). Updated 2:3:3 EDT, October 23, 2006 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Roll Call 1.2 Bash the Agenda 1.3 Approval of the Minutes of the past telechat 1.4 List of Remaining Action Items from Last Telechat 1.5 Review of Projects 2. Protocol Actions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable basis on which to build the salient part of the Internet infrastructure? If not, what changes would make it so?" 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item Area Date RTG M-ISIS: Multi Topology (MT) Routing in IS-IS (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 10 draft-ietf-isis-wg-multi-topology-11.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Bill Fenner RSVP-TE Extensions in support of End-to-End RTG Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Recovery (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 10 draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-recovery-e2e-signaling-04.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Ross Callon RTG GMPLS Based Segment Recovery (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 10 draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-segment-recovery-03.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Ross Callon TSV Marker PDU Aligned Framing for TCP Specification (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 10 draft-ietf-rddp-mpa-08.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: PROTO Shepherd: David Black (black_david@emc.com) Gen-ART Reviewer: Eric Gray (Eric.Gray@marconi.com) Token: Lars Eggert RTG BGP Support for Four-octet AS Number Space (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 10 draft-ietf-idr-as4bytes-12.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Bill Fenner TSV Definitions of Managed Objects for Middlebox Communication (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 10 draft-ietf-midcom-mib-09.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: SEC-DIR Reviewer: Radia Perlman (Radia.Perlman@sun.com) WG Shephard Melinda Shore Token: Magnus Westerlund TSV Packetization Layer Path MTU Discovery (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 10 draft-ietf-pmtud-method-10.txt Note: PROTO Document Shepherd: Matt Zekauskas (matt@internet2.edu) Token: Lars Eggert RTG Encapsulation of MPLS over Layer 2 Tunneling Protocol Version 3 (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 10 draft-ietf-mpls-over-l2tpv3-01.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Ross Callon RAI Enhancements to RTP Payload Formats for EVRC Family Codecs (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 10 draft-ietf-avt-compact-bundled-evrc-11.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: Colin Perkins is PROTO Shepherd Token: Cullen Jennings Pre-Shared Key Cipher Suites with NULL Encryption SEC for Transport Layer Security (TLS) (Proposed Standard) - 10 of 10 draft-ietf-tls-psk-null-03.txt Note: PROTO Shepherd is Eric Rescorla Token: Russ Housley 2.1.2 Returning Item Area Date Specification of the IPFIX Protocol for the OPS Exchange of IP Traffic Flow Information (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1 draft-ietf-ipfix-protocol-23.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Dan Romascanu 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item Area Date Definitions of Managed Objects for the DS1, J1, OPS E1, DS2 and E2 Interface Types (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2 draft-orly-atommib-rfc3895bis-01.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Dan Romascanu Encoding Instructions for the Generic String APP Encoding Rules (GSER) (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 2 draft-legg-ldap-gser-ei-02.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Ted Hardie 2.2.2 Returning Item Area Date SEC RIPv2 Cryptographic Authentication (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1 draft-rja-ripv2-auth-06.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: Back on the agenda to see if the latest update includes all of the points in the security considerations to clear Sam's DISCUSS position. Token: Russ Housley 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.1.1 New Item Area Date OPS Recommendations for Filtering ICMPv6 Messages in Firewalls (Informational) - 1 of 2 draft-ietf-v6ops-icmpv6-filtering-recs-02.txt [Open Web Ballot] Note: PROTO shepherd: Fred Baker This document is a late addition to the agenda. Feel free to defer if you need more time for review. Token: David Kessens SEC Requirements for an IPsec Certificate Management Profile (Informational) - 2 of 2 draft-ietf-pki4ipsec-mgmt-profile-rqts-06.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Russ Housley 3.1.2 Returning Item Area Date OPS Architecture for IP Flow Information Export (Informational) - 1 of 1 draft-ietf-ipfix-architecture-12.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Dan Romascanu 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.2.1 New Item Area Date INT Two-Document ballot: [Open Web Ballot] - 1 of 2 Encapsulation Methods for Transport of Layer 2 Frames Over MPLS Networks (Historic) - 1 of 2 draft-martini-l2circuit-encap-mpls-12.txt Transport of Layer 2 Frames Over MPLS (Historic) draft-martini-l2circuit-trans-mpls-19.txt Token: Mark Townsley A Uniform Resource Name (URN) Namespace for APP the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) (Informational) - 2 of 2 draft-goodwin-iso-urn-00.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Ted Hardie 3.2.2 Returning Item Area Date RTG RFC 1264 is Obsolete (Informational) - 1 of 1 draft-fenner-obsolete-1264-03.txt [Open Web Ballot] Token: Ross Callon 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor The IESG will use RFC 3932 responses: 1) The IESG has not found any conflict between this document and IETF work; 2) The IESG thinks that this work is related to IETF work done in WG , but this does not prevent publishing; 3) The IESG thinks that publication is harmful to work in WG and recommends not publishing at this time; 4) The IESG thinks that this document violates the IETF procedures for and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval; 5) The IESG thinks that this document extends an IETF protocol in a way that requires IETF review and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval. Other matters may be recorded in comments to be passed on to the RFC Editor as community review of the document. 3.3.1 New Item NONE 3.3.2 Returning Item NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval Area Date SEC Sep 22 Network Endpoint Assessment (nea) - 1 of 2 Token: Russ SEC Sep 22 Handover Keying (hokey) - 2 of 2 Token: Russ 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review Area Date RAI Oct 19 Internet Emergency Preparedness (ieprep) - 1 of 1 Token: Jon 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval Area Date INT Oct 9 Host Identity Protocol (hip) - 1 of 1 Token: Mark 5. IAB News We Can Use 6. Management Issues 7. Working Group News From rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Tue Oct 31 23:42:46 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gf7vz-00053l-KX; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:42:40 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gf7vy-00053g-RD for rtg-dir@ietf.org; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:42:38 -0500 Received: from mail-red.research.att.com ([192.20.225.110]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gf7vx-000677-0P for rtg-dir@ietf.org; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:42:38 -0500 Received: from bright.research.att.com (bright.research.att.com [135.207.20.189]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30E1865B; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:42:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by bright.research.att.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.10/Submit) id kA14gLBN015084; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:42:21 -0800 From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <200611010442.kA14gLBN015084@bright.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: rtg-dir@ietf.org Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:42:21 -0700 References: <5.0.0.25.2.20061030231141.048e8a60@zircon.juniper.net> <453F7740.9000404@cisco.com> <453F6F40.8070506@juniper.net> <5.0.0.25.2.20061024170158.052b9b30@zircon.juniper.net> <5.0.0.25.2.20061031165759.0386b550@zircon.juniper.net> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20061030231141.048e8a60@zircon.juniper.net> <453F7740.9000404@cisco.com> <453F6F40.8070506@juniper.net> <5.0.0.25.2.20061024170158.052b9b30@zircon.juniper.net> <5.0.0.25.2.20061031165759.0386b550@zircon.juniper.net> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:42:21 -0700 Versions: dmail (linux) 2.7/makemail 2.14 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f Cc: rcallon@juniper.net, Ron Bonica , rick@rhwilder.net, jari.arkko@piuha.net, Mark Townsley Subject: Review request for L3VPN Multicast X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org Dear Routing Directorate, We (the routing ADs) are looking for a few volunteers to review the L3VPN Multicast specification (how multicast is supported over L3VPNs), from a routing directorate point of view. The most recent draft of this is: Multicast in MPLS/BGP IP VPNs draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast-03.txt For any volunteers willing to take on this task, or for anyone generally interested in the topic, there will be a detailed overview of this specification at the L3VPN WG meeting next week (tuesday afternoon sessions 1). Thanks, Bill and Ross