From nobody Sat Nov 8 11:38:26 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B5C1A19F5; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 11:38:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0ZNPBwkeAcW4; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 11:38:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (asmtp3.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA17A1A19EB; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 11:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sA8JcKgB022732; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 19:38:20 GMT Received: from 950129200 (dhcp-93ef.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.147.239]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sA8JcEUc022714 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 8 Nov 2014 19:38:16 GMT From: "Adrian Farrel" To: , , Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 19:38:13 -0000 Message-ID: <032c01cffb8b$8c05f3e0$a411dba0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac/7i3v97tq2urgQQouPOh+zwQSNEw== Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1576-7.5.0.1018-21086.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--3.950-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--3.950-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: sVnA3d7yEqh/gSvKvDS34/DrFod3YoIKA7f8DkoYc/8M74Nf6tTB9tYy y3/zxX0mh2VTYn+OXsdBS1PQQ1i1Ne+koJNO398CSEQN/D/3cG59LQinZ4QefL6qvLNjDYTwfyj BJDnutUhQSFbL1bvQAXnN0DN7HnFmuSNxuZxiYRMSkeeLwtGxE84YLT9aIbZW4eEWlFpRc2DS+Q Y+uNzHnJHPL2WHD8Jkobq1WmNYcl+MXVcJHhN2t1Mjqqxc9rqIftwZ3X11IV0= Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-dir/NG24C0REIn3_x3zhnz08H9RETUE Subject: [RTG-DIR] Routing ADs Office Hours X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 19:38:23 -0000 As usual, the ADs' office will be open from 14.30 to 16.00 local time on Sunday in Huawei. The IESG office is not available on Sunday, so we will be meeting in Coral 4. Please bring along your thoughts, ideas, concerns, worries, issues, panics, complaints, praise, beer. See you there. Adrian and Alia. From nobody Sat Nov 8 12:59:35 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68B11A000A; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 12:59:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.095 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.095 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CeWvnS1UZ3Ii; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 12:59:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from alln-iport-3.cisco.com (alln-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.142.90]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 851B41A0151; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 12:59:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=463; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1415480369; x=1416689969; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=5EL63j9eMsgtUzAcVJa8xhRE0HGToqNPc0mZHehfDkg=; b=KHSNzE2XVmrI9zgUXT5WRp3PTPX+H1rpxnaSlI9Fq++P2UkyfxLFyqYo 8x33pyEqtks1kSdvNRu1jAA+LTcjfTWRQAqQYBEZG45/Q4OLqNwhWAwu8 v/hyqE5d8u3J9K5lgvyI+bG/Xf/+u53t2I6GUTAGF/QAtP9JT8ytHUij0 M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag0FAPGCXlStJV2a/2dsb2JhbABbgw6BLQTTKgKBGxYBAQEBAX2EAwEBBDpPAgEINhAyJQEBBAESiEHNMAEBAQEBAQEDAQEBAQEBARuRGIRLAQSSJ4tzgTKDTo1ThAmDeWyBSIEDAQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,341,1413244800"; d="scan'208";a="94760750" Received: from rcdn-core-3.cisco.com ([173.37.93.154]) by alln-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2014 20:59:28 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x15.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x15.cisco.com [173.36.12.89]) by rcdn-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id sA8KxQ44014391 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Sat, 8 Nov 2014 20:59:26 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x06.cisco.com ([169.254.1.61]) by xhc-aln-x15.cisco.com ([173.36.12.89]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 14:59:26 -0600 From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "routing-discussion@ietf.org" , "rtg-chairs@ietf.org" , "rtg-dir@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Routing ADs Office Hours Thread-Index: Ac/7i3v97tq2urgQQouPOh+zwQSNEwAE8XYA Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 20:59:25 +0000 Message-ID: References: <032c01cffb8b$8c05f3e0$a411dba0$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <032c01cffb8b$8c05f3e0$a411dba0$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.116.152.204] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-dir/UVQZwR16i550lbOQE8H5Ce5Mlf0 Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] Routing ADs Office Hours X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 20:59:29 -0000 On 11/8/14, 2:38 PM, "Adrian Farrel" wrote: >As usual, the ADs' office will be open from 14.30 to 16.00 local time on >Sunday >in Huawei. Adrian - So do you have a new employer ;^) > >The IESG office is not available on Sunday, so we will be meeting in >Coral 4. > >Please bring along your thoughts, ideas, concerns, worries, issues, >panics, >complaints, praise, beer. > >See you there. > >Adrian and Alia. > From nobody Sun Nov 9 11:31:46 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F51B1A6F67; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 11:31:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NudpVlso6Pp0; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 11:31:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEE961A6F64; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 11:31:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sA9JVaqt029882; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 19:31:36 GMT Received: from 950129200 (dhcp-b3f6.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.179.246]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sA9JVUGJ029826 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 9 Nov 2014 19:31:32 GMT From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Acee Lindem \(acee\)'" , , , References: <032c01cffb8b$8c05f3e0$a411dba0$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 19:31:28 -0000 Message-ID: <010a01cffc53$c555bf90$50013eb0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-gb Thread-Index: AQLKR7g2pY3IqTMV/v5/3AFP+d+51gFYZuddmllTyZA= X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1576-7.5.0.1018-21088.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--1.300-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--1.300-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: sDm3xtR6Ud/adFaIeoCSNfHkpkyUphL97JU5VR9SYzdGr8G3v23M3yc/ xZYu98DIpHwenVL2mriRk6XtYogiarQ/aqQZTRfK0C1sQRfQzEHEQdG7H66TyMdRT5TQAJnAxNQ uIst+a5MOhTeHfsFaE+1s6rK/LTtgm6wlrZO9hcmvY4BboIs67rHhMA9aDpuh/WyINg5Mqdqesp y8+E36a0PhZp6NP5kf Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-dir/Qegt6O5n0goHFJPC72VxzCfi-dU Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] Routing ADs Office Hours X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 19:31:44 -0000 > >As usual, the ADs' office will be open from 14.30 to 16.00 local time on > >Sunday in Huawei. > > Adrian - So do you have a new employer ;^) Oh, that is pretty amusing. Honalcatelulucent? A From nobody Sun Nov 9 16:59:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A871A87F0; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:59:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FCFZLWerh8cE; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:59:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yh0-x22f.google.com (mail-yh0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59A511A87F2; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:59:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yh0-f47.google.com with SMTP id i57so248073yha.20 for ; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 16:59:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=4mev7J6X9SnMFeGLN+6ZD8HAsCokjTETuYvFNmUPUP0=; b=YYcm20nyC1PIrH3abfjGDyhIEm3TAohJylFOld/Fu8wCZEPYvn7EZHiN9AdmXud9uF tK1fvFQSLyAVRz14x1vYqLoe7MWc1x/6HHy4jsqZ5Kw5ha0uXsFQjF8tsFtAcLnTz5Oe cfu1P+5DRb8INU4659cLt8moHzF9OpnFwo4Xc+7trg9uYEzEcgLwQy8FUmVXGUe7yjLT i3KhHTXGMh3+9NcgAg2Fp4T3pVnNXwKTBkwqrcC2JquQTL6DF9ChKQ9tgCAS+QmByvDB s1sX06dktf+IqLc2JQ9jKtzDVkcYUwLpldz+13B2Ks5Vc2yWaCkczznvGeeLMyK8QO9T pOnQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.206.15 with SMTP id k15mr26931213yho.156.1415581174443; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 16:59:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.170.172.130 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:59:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.170.172.130 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:59:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4C007AE9-047A-41F1-A400-15FD7095D627@tislabs.com> References: <4C007AE9-047A-41F1-A400-15FD7095D627@tislabs.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 19:59:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: Alia Atlas To: Sandra Murphy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01161d980db4c6050776ad18 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-dir/g8Shli92T4Qy-iN5OKs-mX4OvOY Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, "routing-discussion@ietf.org" , rtg-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] Routing AD office hours at IETF 91 in Honolulu X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 00:59:37 -0000 --089e01161d980db4c6050776ad18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 We are in Coral 4, near IETF registration. Alia On Nov 9, 2014 2:44 PM, "Sandra Murphy" wrote: > So here's the announcement of their office hours. > > --Sandy > > On Oct 30, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Alia Atlas wrote: > > > Adrian and I will be having our Routing AD office hours on Sunday from > 14:30 to 16:00 in the IESG Breakout Room. When the specific room is > assigned, we'll send out the update. > > > > Come on by with concerns, questions, and issues. If you know you'll be > coming and would > > like us to be potentially up to speed on the topic, please send email. > > > > See you in Honlulu, > > Alia > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > routing-discussion mailing list > > routing-discussion@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/routing-discussion > > --089e01161d980db4c6050776ad18 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We are in Coral 4, near IETF registration.

Alia

On Nov 9, 2014 2:44 PM, "Sandra Murphy"= ; <sandy@tislabs.com> wrote:=
So here's the a= nnouncement of their office hours.

--Sandy

On Oct 30, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:

> Adrian and I will be having our Routing AD office hours on Sunday from= 14:30 to 16:00 in the IESG Breakout Room.=C2=A0 When the specific room is = assigned, we'll send out the update.
>
> Come on by with concerns, questions, and issues.=C2=A0 If you know you= 'll be coming and would
> like us to be potentially up to speed on the topic, please send email.=
>
> See you in Honlulu,
> Alia
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> routing-discussion mailing list
> routing-discussion@ietf= .org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/routing-discussion

--089e01161d980db4c6050776ad18-- From nobody Mon Nov 10 05:53:29 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118AD1A1A6D; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 05:53:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 51VryHzijWxP; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 05:53:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias245.francetelecom.com [80.12.204.245]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 682B21A8AF9; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 05:53:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from omfeda05.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.198]) by omfeda13.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 9EAED19052E; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:53:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme1.itn.ftgroup (unknown [10.114.1.186]) by omfeda05.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 072971800A5; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:53:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.193.116.76] (10.197.38.6) by PEXCVZYH01.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup (10.114.1.186) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.210.2; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:53:21 +0100 Message-ID: <11176_1415627602_5460C352_11176_1763_1_5460C349.8090007@orange.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:53:13 +0100 From: Organization: Orange User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [10.197.38.6] X-PMX-Version: 6.0.3.2322014, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2014.10.23.30920 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-dir/CN7x9iQSxsJYbn98SGQE8oNG6Wo Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , bess@ietf.org Subject: [RTG-DIR] Routing Directorate QA Review of draft-fang-l3vpn-virtual-pe-05 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:53:27 -0000 Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate QA reviewer for this draft. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see €‹http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir At this stage, the intend of the following is not to discuss the WG's decision about the I-D, but rather to help improving its content. Summary Globally, the I-D is easy to read and gathers some interesting information, but some work is still needed. The aim of the I-D is not clear along the document and hesitates between vPE requirements (e.g., I-D title, or section 1.2) and DC network design (e.g., unnecessary extensive details about vRR, or "it is worth the effort to study the traffic pattern and forwarding looking trend in _your own_ unique Data Center"). What is more, I do not get why it is marked as Standard Track: even though it includes an IANA section, the latter remains empty and the text remains a high level description without protocol specification. Leaving the nits out at this stage, just a few more specific comments below. - On the front page, the list of authors is impressive. However, two columns of names does not fit with guidelines from RFC 7322. The levels of commitments of authors will need to be distinguished. - The word "CAN" used a couple of times is not part of RFC 2119 keywords, it may be replaced by "can" or "MAY", depending on the intend. - Still 2119-related, in section 5.1, the word "SHOULD" seems to mean "are very likely to", thus capitalization looks inappropriate. - Over the 1st half of the document, the possibility to implement a vPE "in a server or a ToR" is mentioned every 2nd page: is it really the main message to be repeated in such an I-D? - Sections 5, 6, 7 loose some focus on vPCE and are less clear. E.g.: * The 2nd scenario in section 6 looks like a cumbersome wording to define a L3 gateway connecting a L2 domain; whether the CE is virtual or not seems orthogonal. * Section 7.2 tries to summarize I2RS work, therefore that text will soon be outdated: pointing directly to I2RS would do a better job. - I read in section 7.2 : "The protocols SHOULD be [...] familiar by the computing communities". I am afraid I should warn against this kind of statement: it is not a technical requirement and would even prevent from considering BGP in DCs (or, e.g. in other contexts, any effort on GMPLS). - The security section should not wait for the full maturity of the I-D to be worked on; e.g., the access to the interconnected vPE-C or the (v)CE is not mentioned. 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From nobody Mon Nov 10 11:00:00 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD101A87C4; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:44:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.495 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.495 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n613FbQlVQW6; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:44:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from walnut.tislabs.com (walnut.tislabs.com [192.94.214.200]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F223A1A86E6; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 16:44:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from nova.tislabs.com (unknown [10.66.1.77]) by walnut.tislabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D68828B003D; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 19:44:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by nova.tislabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024A91F8035; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 19:44:43 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_828B2552-834C-44FD-B3D4-D132D3BA9D29"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) From: Sandra Murphy In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 19:44:43 -0500 Message-Id: <4C007AE9-047A-41F1-A400-15FD7095D627@tislabs.com> References: To: Alia Atlas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-dir/8YRYI9ph-CX1zrANamWvt5Qm1iA X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:59:56 -0800 Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "rtg-chairs@ietf.org" , "routing-discussion@ietf.org" , Sandra Murphy Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] Routing AD office hours at IETF 91 in Honolulu X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 00:44:47 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_828B2552-834C-44FD-B3D4-D132D3BA9D29 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So here's the announcement of their office hours. --Sandy On Oct 30, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Alia Atlas wrote: > Adrian and I will be having our Routing AD office hours on Sunday from = 14:30 to 16:00 in the IESG Breakout Room. When the specific room is = assigned, we'll send out the update. >=20 > Come on by with concerns, questions, and issues. If you know you'll = be coming and would > like us to be potentially up to speed on the topic, please send email. >=20 > See you in Honlulu, > Alia >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > routing-discussion mailing list > routing-discussion@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/routing-discussion --Apple-Mail=_828B2552-834C-44FD-B3D4-D132D3BA9D29 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJUYAp7AAoJEHplpQeet0IZOq0P/3aKPKV5n2ZmyUJFtlZZx+Kd DZExLStrYIlNouhqD8yKe5PsMTJ28hxLIvdQ071keB+5PiQi1imv/CA1I6fuBT09 5kK2aL4YOxEnWfPNDwKh1GsvODOSTZLW1CWSlf6Ciw1zRqP81fTwO6/0aFAC87iw lViLDBzMDEJHOfoZ1NjuR9nCjrtNLkbPW5LX5RE1rPzoHk/z3asbV9jyrxYjbtPI WAF3KddqImUBrwFt2Lz27nua6QsyeZ6T50WmYY1MzhstyTwcOScZd/YovU95Gjye eHRTGL/Qg+YSonP1h5qWh0/JXH6AIiSzY2rk4v09VP+MgfE9P/L9DHUBwFNhqVIx oDLiPE+YNILR/3TrCOYubLOchVlo7ErwM3Ik4CBb6AE3Hlgpr0yVFzYiZ3ktbff/ orODIjODsM118dL2HRaTuUTVVn7Ebg65Oq7u6C4co/wdn8y736LN7Tc/0kM7j4gk Sl2dsTWnqslLi63J6XJpqTsFv/3QuwpiVkHC3RhDhkrU2PRHXedL7r6vJVSXiQMK EUTEONdxwzVKUlhwa4MAZh3/CX0MbMUXoc2qf02gapS55r8FZjmn+ElQ5dU/Ngb+ OlrjUbtmJb1IACj64Ymr1lRKfPlOl8j/SzuS3CBlMOtteGMHKhwcSYO2Afc8nN44 M++zR1Oq5pBufp5AL7Rr =hPw5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_828B2552-834C-44FD-B3D4-D132D3BA9D29-- From nobody Tue Nov 11 11:51:15 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1F51A8903; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:51:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CHp9FtCfKIj8; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:51:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1bon0731.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fc10::1:731]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 686971A88EF; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 11:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from CO2PR05MB732.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.228.22) by CO2PR05MB731.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.228.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.16.15; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:50:45 +0000 Received: from CO2PR05MB732.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.228.22]) by CO2PR05MB732.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.228.22]) with mapi id 15.01.0016.006; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:50:45 +0000 From: John Scudder To: "Andrew G. Malis" , Clarence Filsfils , Stefano Previdi Thread-Topic: [RTG-DIR] Routing Directorate QA review of draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing-04 Thread-Index: AQHP/ejI4nB3vvSMrUilpwRhvFZTig== Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:50:45 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [66.129.239.11] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CO2PR05MB731; x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CO2PR05MB731; x-forefront-prvs: 0392679D18 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(199003)(377454003)(164054003)(189002)(377424004)(24454002)(16236675004)(20776003)(120916001)(107046002)(64706001)(99286002)(95666004)(15202345003)(106356001)(33656002)(62966003)(77156002)(105586002)(101416001)(106116001)(54356999)(36756003)(21056001)(50986999)(82746002)(66066001)(76176999)(15975445006)(87936001)(2656002)(31966008)(46102003)(19617315012)(19580405001)(40100003)(230783001)(92566001)(19580395003)(86362001)(92726001)(99396003)(122556002)(4396001)(97736003)(83716003)(104396001)(42262002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CO2PR05MB731; H:CO2PR05MB732.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_A7168924784D436594533DA23B318506junipernet_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-dir/iwGAhbMO3gVN8i21xjvKukHLhqk Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "spring@ietf.org" , "" , "draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing@tools.ietf.org" , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] Routing Directorate QA review of draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing-04 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:51:13 -0000 --_000_A7168924784D436594533DA23B318506junipernet_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [re-sending from proper account] Andy, Thanks very much for doing this review. Authors, Can you please (at minimum) acknowledge that you've received Andy's comment= s and (preferably) respond to them, either by updating the draft or by disc= ussing them on the SPRING list? For what it's worth, I've read through Andy= 's review and agree with his points. Thanks, --John On Oct 6, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Andrew G. Malis > wrote: Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate QA reviewer for https://too= ls.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing-04 . The Routing Directorate QA reviews are intended to improve the quality of R= TG Area documents as the pass through the IETF process. This is the QA review at the time of the WG document adoption poll. Document: draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing-04.txt Reviewer: Andy Malis Review Date: 2014-10-06 Working Group Adoption Poll end date: Oct 8, 2014 Intended Status: Standards Track Please find the review at: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/WG%20adoption%20QA%20review%2= 0draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing Cheers, Andy --_000_A7168924784D436594533DA23B318506junipernet_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [re-sending from proper account]

Andy,

Thanks very much for doing this review.

Authors,

Can you please (at minimum) acknowledge that you've received Andy's co= mments and (preferably) respond to them, either by updating the draft or by= discussing them on the SPRING list? For what it's worth, I've read through= Andy's review and agree with his points.

Thanks,

--John


Hello,

I have been sel= ected as the Routing Directorate QA reviewer for https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-= segment-routing-04 .

The Routing Dir= ectorate QA reviews are intended to improve = the quality of RTG Area documents as the pass through the IETF = process.=

This is the QA = review at the time of the WG document adoption poll.

Document: = draft-filsfils-spring-s= egment-routing-04.txt
Reviewer: Andy = Malis
Review Date: 20= 14-10-06
Working Group A= doption Poll end date: Oct 8, 2014
Intended Status= : Standards Track

Please find the= review at:

http://trac.tools.ietf.o= rg/area/rtg/trac/wiki/WG%20adoption%20QA%20review%20draft-filsfils-spring-s= egment-routing

Cheers,
Andy


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Thanks. s. -----Original Message----- From: John Scudder [jgs42@me.com] Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 9:48 To: Andrew G. Malis [agmalis@gmail.com]; Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil) [cfil= sfil@cisco.com]; Stefano Previdi (sprevidi) [sprevidi@cisco.com] CC: rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org [rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org]; rtg-dir@ietf.org [rtg-= dir@ietf.org]; spring@ietf.org [spring@ietf.org]; draft-filsfils-spring-seg= ment-routing@tools.ietf.org [draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing@tools.ie= tf.org]; {spring-chairs@tools.ietf.org} [spring-chairs@tools.ietf.org] Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] Routing Directorate QA review of draft-filsfils-spri= ng-segment-routing-04 Andy, Thanks very much for doing this review. Authors, Can you please (at minimum) acknowledge that you've received Andy's comment= s and (preferably) respond to them, either by updating the draft or by disc= ussing them on the SPRING list? For what it's worth, I've read through Andy= 's review and agree with his points. Thanks, --John On Oct 6, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Andrew G. Malis > wrote: Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate QA reviewer for https://too= ls.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing-04 . The Routing Directorate QA reviews are intended to improve the quality of R= TG Area documents as the pass through the IETF process. This is the QA review at the time of the WG document adoption poll. Document: draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing-04.txt Reviewer: Andy Malis Review Date: 2014-10-06 Working Group Adoption Poll end date: Oct 8, 2014 Intended Status: Standards Track Please find the review at: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/WG%20adoption%20QA%20review%2= 0draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing Cheers, Andy --_000_E0A1DE675FEC854ABF07D319E556FE64467DDF0Cxmbrcdx01ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi John,

I already ack'ed Andrew' s comments and will address them asap.

Thanks.

s.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Scudder [jgs42@me.com]
Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 9:48
To: Andrew G. Malis [agmalis@gmail.com]; Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil= ) [cfilsfil@cisco.com]; Stefano Previdi (sprevidi) [sprevidi@cisco.com]
CC: rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org [rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org]; rtg-dir@ietf.or= g [rtg-dir@ietf.org]; spring@ietf.org [spring@ietf.org]; draft-filsfils-spr= ing-segment-routing@tools.ietf.org [draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing@t= ools.ietf.org]; {spring-chairs@tools.ietf.org} [spring-chairs@tools.ietf.org]
Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] Routing Directorate QA review of draft-filsfi= ls-spring-segment-routing-04
Andy,

Thanks very much for doing this review.

Authors,

Can you please (at minimum) acknowledge that you've received Andy's co= mments and (preferably) respond to them, either by updating the draft or by= discussing them on the SPRING list? For what it's worth, I've read through= Andy's review and agree with his points.

Thanks,

--John

On Oct 6, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

I have been se= lected as the Routing Directorate QA reviewer for https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring= -segment-routing-04 .

The Routing Di= rectorate QA reviews are intended to improve= the quality of RTG Area documents as the pass through the IETF process.

This is the QA= review at the time of the WG document adoption poll.

Document: = ;draft-filsfils-spring-= segment-routing-04.txt
Reviewer: Andy= Malis
Review Date: 2= 014-10-06
Working Group = Adoption Poll end date: Oct 8, 2014
Intended Statu= s: Standards Track

Please find th= e review at:

http://trac.tools.ietf.o= rg/area/rtg/trac/wiki/WG%20adoption%20QA%20review%20draft-filsfils-spring-s= egment-routing

Cheers,
Andy


--_000_E0A1DE675FEC854ABF07D319E556FE64467DDF0Cxmbrcdx01ciscoc_-- From nobody Tue Nov 11 13:06:35 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564281AC437; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:06:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 41JrT-419eBx; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:06:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1bon0774.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fc10::1:774]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A4201AC3FD; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:06:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from CO2PR05MB732.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.228.22) by CO2PR05MB729.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.228.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.16.15; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:06:02 +0000 Received: from CO2PR05MB732.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.228.22]) by CO2PR05MB732.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.228.22]) with mapi id 15.01.0016.006; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:06:02 +0000 From: John Scudder To: "Stefano Previdi (sprevidi)" Thread-Topic: [spring] [RTG-DIR] Routing Directorate QA review of draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing-04 Thread-Index: AQHP/fNMpfOVxS4pIkuqIIGATbq0jw== Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:06:02 +0000 Message-ID: <7F5E7CA6-98B5-4E3A-8A72-621F16636E23@juniper.net> References: , , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [31.133.182.152] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CO2PR05MB729; x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CO2PR05MB729; x-forefront-prvs: 0392679D18 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(13464003)(377454003)(189002)(199003)(164054003)(377424004)(24454002)(41574002)(31966008)(101416001)(110136001)(2656002)(76176999)(16236675004)(4396001)(21056001)(83716003)(86362001)(87936001)(46102003)(62966003)(77156002)(50986999)(19617315012)(97736003)(99396003)(54356999)(36756003)(120916001)(15202345003)(92566001)(33656002)(106356001)(106116001)(15975445006)(20776003)(64706001)(95666004)(99286002)(82746002)(105586002)(40100003)(107046002)(230783001)(92726001)(66066001)(122556002)(19580405001)(19580395003)(7059030)(104396001)(42262002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CO2PR05MB729; H:CO2PR05MB732.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7F5E7CA698B54E3A8A72621F16636E23junipernet_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-dir/kJ-0B_ABpBAcBo53ssbXtXyF8xg Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "spring@ietf.org" , "Clarence Filsfils \(cfilsfil\)" , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" , "agmalis@gmail.com" , "jgs42@me.com" , "draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing@tools.ietf.org" , "spring-chairs@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] [spring] Routing Directorate QA review of draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing-04 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:06:33 -0000 --_000_7F5E7CA698B54E3A8A72621F16636E23junipernet_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry I missed that -- thanks! --John On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Stefano Previdi (sprevidi) > wrote: Hi John, I already ack'ed Andrew' s comments and will address them asap. Thanks. s. -----Original Message----- From: John Scudder [jgs42@me.com] Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 9:48 To: Andrew G. Malis [agmalis@gmail.com]; Clarence= Filsfils (cfilsfil) [cfilsfil@cisco.com]; Stefa= no Previdi (sprevidi) [sprevidi@cisco.com] CC: rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org [rtg-ads@tools.ie= tf.org]; rtg-dir@ietf.org [rtg-dir@ietf.org]; spring@ietf.org [spring@ietf.org]; draft-filsfils-= spring-segment-routing@tools.ietf.org [draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing@tools.ietf.o= rg]; {spring-c= hairs@tools.ietf.org} [spring-chairs@t= ools.ietf.org] Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] Routing Directorate QA review of draft-filsfils-spri= ng-segment-routing-04 Andy, Thanks very much for doing this review. Authors, Can you please (at minimum) acknowledge that you've received Andy's comment= s and (preferably) respond to them, either by updating the draft or by disc= ussing them on the SPRING list? For what it's worth, I've read through Andy= 's review and agree with his points. Thanks, --John On Oct 6, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Andrew G. Malis > wrote: Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate QA reviewer for https://too= ls.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing-04 . The Routing Directorate QA reviews are intended to improve the quality of R= TG Area documents as the pass through the IETF process. This is the QA review at the time of the WG document adoption poll. Document: draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing-04.txt Reviewer: Andy Malis Review Date: 2014-10-06 Working Group Adoption Poll end date: Oct 8, 2014 Intended Status: Standards Track Please find the review at: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/WG%20adoption%20QA%20review%2= 0draft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing Cheers, Andy _______________________________________________ spring mailing list spring@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring --_000_7F5E7CA698B54E3A8A72621F16636E23junipernet_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry I missed that -- thanks!

--John

On Nov 11, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Stefano Previdi (sprevidi) <sprevidi@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi John,

I already ack'ed Andrew' s comments and will address them asap.

Thanks.

s.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Scudder [jgs42@me.com= ]
Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 9:48
To: Andrew G. Malis [agmalis@gm= ail.com]; Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil) [cfilsfil@cisco.com]; Stefano Previdi (sprevidi) [sprevidi@cisco.com]
CC: rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org= [rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org]= ; rtg-dir@ietf.org [rtg-dir@ietf.org]; spring@ietf.org [spring@ietf.org]; dra= ft-filsfils-spring-segment-routing@tools.ietf.org [draft-filsfils-spring-s= egment-routing@tools.ietf.org]; {spring-chairs@tools.ietf.= org} [spring-chairs@too= ls.ietf.org]
Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] Routing Directorate QA review of draft-filsfi= ls-spring-segment-routing-04
Andy,

Thanks very much for doing this review.

Authors,

Can you please (at minimum) acknowledge that you've received Andy's co= mments and (preferably) respond to them, either by updating the draft or by= discussing them on the SPRING list? For what it's worth, I've read through= Andy's review and agree with his points.

Thanks,

--John

On Oct 6, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

I have been se= lected as the Routing Directorate QA reviewer for https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring= -segment-routing-04 .

The Routing Di= rectorate QA reviews are intended to improve= the quality of RTG Area documents as the pass through the IETF process.

This is the QA= review at the time of the WG document adoption poll.

Document: = ;draft-filsfils-spring-= segment-routing-04.txt
Reviewer: Andy= Malis
Review Date: 2= 014-10-06
Working Group = Adoption Poll end date: Oct 8, 2014
Intended Statu= s: Standards Track

Please find th= e review at:

http://trac.tools.ietf.o= rg/area/rtg/trac/wiki/WG%20adoption%20QA%20review%20draft-filsfils-spring-s= egment-routing

Cheers,
Andy


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 --_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C8166FF3D0MISOUT7MSGUSRDE_-- From nobody Mon Nov 24 15:44:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355C51A871E; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:44:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04kvuoOzC6ba; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:44:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from out.west.pexch112.icann.org (pfe112-ca-1.pexch112.icann.org [64.78.40.7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69D161A6FE5; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:44:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.21) by PMBX112-W1-CA-2.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.847.32; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:44:09 -0800 Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org ([64.78.40.21]) by PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG ([64.78.40.21]) with mapi id 15.00.0847.030; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:44:09 -0800 From: Terry Manderson To: "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-grow-irr-routing-policy-considerations-05 Thread-Index: AQHQCECKbVUJjmxcAUWcjcppyPp5xQ== Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:44:09 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.5.141003 x-originating-ip: [192.0.32.234] Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3499753447_41281240" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-dir/zDqTb7gf4MPtYgP0niwkiGdCft4 Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-grow-irr-routing-policy-considerations.all@tools.ietf.org" , "grow@ietf.org" Subject: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir Review: draft-ietf-grow-irr-routing-policy-considerations-05 X-BeenThere: rtg-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:44:15 -0000 --B_3499753447_41281240 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see =E2=80=8Bhttp://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-grow-irr-routing-policy-considerations-05 Reviewer: Terry Manderson Review Date: 2014-11-24 IETF LC End Date: 2014-12-01 Intended Status: Informational Summary:=20 I have a handful of minor concerns about this document which should be resolved prior to publication, and a few comments centered around general draft direction. Comments:=20 I think the handling of the historical issues of IRRs is fair. There is often a reach to 'beat up' on the perceived faults of a system - this draft doesn't do this. Indeed I thought the first half of the draft was very well constructed and provides an appropriate discussion. When discussing the data integrity (or lack thereof) of an IRR I feel insufficient attention is given to overall integrity of the IRR source, esp. wrt mirroring (sec 5.1). That is, are all the objects completely mirrored, is there a way to tell? why not? etc? As it is RIPE withhold certain objects for PII reasons, what else could be missing that is operationally important? The lack of C.I.A. on the NRTM stream is touched on, but not given due attention. Additionally the lack of C.I.A on the current query side (WHOIS/TCP/43) should be iterated as a part of the attack surface, both for the IRR operator and the IRR user. =20 A number of times within the draft the similarities, differences, and 'nice to have' aspects between the IRR and the RPKI are highlighted. I'm left wondering if this topic actually needs its own section. For example: the RPKI has RPKI-RTR, yet that in itself will not carry policy based information. Without turning such a section into "what the RPKI doesn't do", some time spent highlighting what the IRR provides and what RPKI may provide could help the reader. The underpinning statement from the draft appears to be that RPKI origin validation is or could be good, but it (RPKI) currently is not scoped to replace RPSL and the nuanced policy applications which providers employ now. If this is a pragmatism holds true, then for completeness of the discussion the Authors and ADs might wish to include it. Major Issues:=20 No major issues found. Minor Issues:=20 Section 5, Para 4: I feel it is glib to state that "it can be observed that the most common circuit size used by ISPs is now 10 Gbps". Qualifying this with the economic development or network development of the region is prudent, or perhaps provide a reference to a survey if one exists. Section 5.2, Para 5. I found the last sentence in para 5 difficult to parse. Please consider rewording. Section 7.2, Para 2. Please consider re-writing the second sentence of this para. The (over) use of commas makes it hard to read. Section 7.3, Para 1. I don't think you actually mean '"offline" server'.. Perhaps "disparate"? or "configuration"??? Please clarify, or perhaps define the term in the context here. "offline" is an overloaded term. Nits:=20 Section 5.1, para 3: s/(Edge)/(edge)/ Section 5.2, para 4: "turn-up", word suggestion: "commission" Section 5.2, para 4: s/call up/call/ (the "up" is superfluous) Section 6, para 4: s/take affect/take effect/ x2 Section 7.2, para 4: s/so have the some of the scaling/so have some of the scaling/ Section 8: 1st sentence. I read this and thought: "the green leaf is green".. 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