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Hello,

I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. =
The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related =
drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and =
sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide =
assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing =
Directorate, please see =
=E2=80=8Bhttp://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir

Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it =
would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF =
Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through =
discussion or by updating the draft.

Document: draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-bidir-03.txt
Reviewer: Ben Niven-Jenkins
Review Date: 11th March 2015
IETF LC End Date: Not known=20
Intended Status: Standards Track


Summary:
This document is basically ready for publication, but has nits that =
should be considered prior to publication.

Comments:
The draft is well written, in places I needed to re-read sentences to =
ensure I had understood them but I think this is more to do with the =
nature of the content and that multicast VPNs require complex =
descriptions rather than a reflection on the quality of the document.

Major issues:
No major issues found.

Minor issues:
No minor issues found.

Nits:
Section 1.1: C-multicast flow:
Change
  If a customer uses the "Any Source Multicast" (ASM) model, the
  some or all of the customer's C-flows may be traveling along the

to

  If a customer uses the "Any Source Multicast" (ASM) model, then
  some or all of the customer's C-flows may be traveling along the

i.e. s/the/then in the first line.

Section 1.2.4:
s/If a bidirectional P-tunnels/If bidirectional P-tunnels/

s/The method used by a given VRF used is determined/The method used by a =
given VRF is determined/

Section 3.2.2:
s/The PEs are REQUIRED to originate these routes are/The PEs REQUIRED to =
originate these routes are/

s/This document assumes that the root node address of an MP2MP LSP an IP =
address/This document assumes that the root node address of an MP2MP LSP =
is an IP address/

Section 3.2.4 states:

 In order to be compliant with this specification, an implementation
 that provides bidirectional P-tunnels MUST support one or both of the
 two P-tunnel technologies mentioned in section Section 1.2.1.

Saying implementations "MUST support one or both" sounds a bit strange =
to me and something like "MUST support at least one" sounds better (but =
both ultimately mean the same thing)?

Also the document states:

 A PE that does not provide C-BIDIR support using the "partitioned set
 of PEs" method may be deemed compliant to this specification if it
 supports the Unpartitioned Method, using either MP2MP LSPs or BIDIR-
 PIM multicast distribute trees as P-tunnels.

"may be deemed" implies there are cases where it "may not be deemed" =
compliant but I'm not sure what those are.

Do you really mean to say "is" instead of "may be"?




Regards
Ben


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Ben,

Thanks for your review and comments.

I have incorporated your corrections into the XML, and they will be 
included in the -04 revision.

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Thanks Eric. Ben

> On 15 Mar 2015, at 15:11, Eric C Rosen <erosen@juniper.net> wrote:
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> Thanks for your review and comments.
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> I have incorporated your corrections into the XML, and they will be =
included in the -04 revision.
>=20
> Eric
>=20
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Hi,

Can I take a moment to thank the Directorate for your support and work since
Ross and I re-formed you five and a half years ago.

Your willingness to pitch in and give frank and technical reviews of documents
on short notice with tight deadlines has been truly an immense help to me. You
have served as a touchstone for my sanity.

Thank you,
Adrian


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The draft minutes for the RTGAREA meeting at IETF 92 are now available.  Pl=
ease let me know if you have any comments.
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/minutes/minutes-92-rtgarea

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Jon,

Thanks for getting the minutes out quickly!

Alia

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Jonathan Hardwick <
Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com> wrote:

>  The draft minutes for the RTGAREA meeting at IETF 92 are now available.
> Please let me know if you have any comments.
>
> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/minutes/minutes-92-rtgarea
>
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>
> Best regards
>
> Jon
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Jon,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for getting the minutes out=
 quickly!</div><div><br></div><div>Alia</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extr=
a"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Jonatha=
n Hardwick <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metasw=
itch.com" target=3D"_blank">Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The draft minutes for the RTGAREA meeting at IETF 92=
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es/minutes-92-rtgarea" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/9=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Best regards<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jon<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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