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A new IETF non-working group email list has been created.

List address:=20
cacao@ietf.org

Archive:=20
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/cacao/

To subscribe:=20
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cacao


Purpose:
This email list will be used to discuss Collaborative Automated Course =
of
Action Operations (CACAO) for Cyber Security


This list will be for discussing the Course of Action work we would like =
to do here at the IETF and discuss the initial draft that was uploaded =
to the datatracker today. That draft can be found here: =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jordan-cacao-introduction/ =
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jordan-cacao-introduction/>


Please direct any and all comments and suggestions to the cacao@ietf.org =
<mailto:cacao@ietf.org> mailing list.=20


Thanks,
Bret
PGP Fingerprint: 63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447  F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050
"Without cryptography vihv vivc ce xhrnrw, however, the only thing that =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">A new IETF non-working group email list has =
been created.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">List address:&nbsp;</div><a href=3D"mailto:cacao@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">cacao@ietf.org</a><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Archive:&nbsp;</div>https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/cacao=
/<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">To =
subscribe:&nbsp;</div>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cacao<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Purpose:</div><div class=3D"">This email list will be used to =
discuss Collaborative Automated Course of</div><div class=3D"">Action =
Operations (CACAO) for Cyber Security</div></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This=
 list will be for discussing the Course of Action work we would like to =
do here at the IETF and discuss the initial draft that was uploaded to =
the datatracker today. That draft can be found here:&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jordan-cacao-introduction/"=
 =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jordan-cacao-introductio=
n/</a></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Please direct any and all comments and =
suggestions to the <a href=3D"mailto:cacao@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">cacao@ietf.org</a>&nbsp;mailing list.&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
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orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
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font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; =
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font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; border-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;">Thanks,</span></div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"orphans: 2; widows: 2; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: =
-webkit-auto; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: =
none;">Bret</span></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"orphans: 2; widows: =
2;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
text-align: -webkit-auto; border-spacing: 0px;"><span =
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style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: =
after-white-space;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; text-align: -webkit-auto; =
border-spacing: 0px;"><div class=3D"" style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
text-align: -webkit-auto; border-spacing: 0px;"><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: =
after-white-space;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"border-collapse: separate; text-align: -webkit-auto; =
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normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><span =
class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 11px;">PGP =
Fingerprint:&nbsp;</span></font><span class=3D"" style=3D"text-align: =
-webkit-auto; font-size: 11px;"><font color=3D"#7c7c7c" face=3D"Calibre, =
Verdana" class=3D"">63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447 &nbsp;F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 =
0050</font></span></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><span =
class=3D"" style=3D"color: rgb(124, 124, 124); font-size: 8pt; =
font-family: Calibre, Verdana; text-align: -webkit-auto;">"Without =
cryptography vihv vivc ce xhrnrw, however, the only thing that can not =
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A new IRTF proposed research group mailing list has been created.



List address: smart at ietf.org

Archive: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/smart/

To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/smart



Purpose:
SMART - Stopping Malware and Researching Threats
This email list will be used to discuss and stimulate research into how cyb=
er attacks can be defended against in a world of encrypted data. It will be=
 a place to present research on the effects, both positive and negative, of=
 existing, proposed and newly-published Internet protocols and standards on=
 methods use to defend against cyber attacks. Attacks and threats include, =
but are not limited to, malware, malicious domains, botnets, DDoS and phish=
ing. The proposed research group will gather evidence from information secu=
rity practitioners on methods used to defend against attacks and make this =
available to protocol designers. It will research and promote ways to deal =
with attacks efficiently and make the most of resources to do this. It will=
 publish case studies into historic attacks, so the community can learn fro=
m previous attacks.





Those of you who attended the Security Area Advisory Group meeting at IETF =
102 Montreal would have heard about some of the work the UK's National Cybe=
r Security Centre has been doing to defend UK users against nationally sign=
ificant cyber attacks and reduce the UK-hosted share of global phishing att=
empts by almost half. We hope that a new IRTF research group will become th=
e home for Security Operations experts, academic researchers and the cyber =
defence industry to come together to share information and stimulate new re=
search on techniques used to detect and prevent attacks, as new versions of=
 protocols are developed and deployed.



There is more explanation and a draft charter for discussion on the SMART m=
ailing list. Please join us over there!









This information is exempt under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA)=
 and may be exempt under other UK information legislation. Refer any FOIA q=
ueries to ncscinfoleg@ncsc.gov.uk

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><br>
A new IRTF proposed research group mailing list has been created.<o:p></o:p=
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<p class=3D"xmsonormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"xmsonormal">List address: smart at ietf.org<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"xmsonormal">Archive: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/s=
mart/<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"xmsonormal">To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo=
/smart<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"xmsonormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"xmsonormal">Purpose:<br>
SMART &#8211; Stopping Malware and Researching Threats<br>
This email list will be used to discuss and stimulate research into how <sp=
an style=3D"color:black">
cyber attacks&nbsp;can be defended against in a world of encrypted data. It=
 will be a place to present research on the effects, both positive and nega=
tive, of existing, proposed and newly-published Internet protocols and stan=
dards on methods use to defend against
 cyber attacks. Attacks and threats include, but are not limited to, malwar=
e, malicious domains, botnets, DDoS and phishing. The proposed research gro=
up will gather evidence from information security practitioners on methods =
used to defend against attacks and
 make this available to protocol designers.&nbsp;It will&nbsp;research and =
promote&nbsp;ways to&nbsp;deal with&nbsp;attacks efficiently&nbsp;and make =
the most of&nbsp;resources to do this.&nbsp;It will publish case studies in=
to&nbsp;historic&nbsp;attacks, so the community can learn from previous&nbs=
p;attacks.</span><i><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">&nbsp;</sp=
an></i>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"xmsonormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"xmsonormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"xmsonormal">Those of you who attended the Security Area Advisor=
y Group meeting at IETF 102 Montreal would have heard about some of the wor=
k the UK&#8217;s National Cyber Security Centre has been doing to defend UK=
 users against nationally significant cyber
 attacks and reduce the UK-hosted share of global phishing attempts by almo=
st half. We hope that a new IRTF research group will become the home for Se=
curity Operations experts, academic researchers and the cyber defence indus=
try to come together to share information
 and stimulate new research on techniques used to detect and prevent attack=
s, as new versions of protocols are developed and deployed.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"xmsonormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"xmsonormal">There is more explanation and a draft charter for d=
iscussion on the SMART mailing list. Please join us over there!<o:p></o:p><=
/p>
<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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Hi folks,

I've decided not to re-up as Security AD.

I see that a number of people have agreed to stand, which is great.
If others are interested in the position, I would encourage you to put
your names in. If you'd like to hear more about the position, please
feel free to reach out to Ben or me.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi folks,<br><br>I&#39;ve decided not to =
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tand, which is great.<br>If others are interested in the position, I would =
encourage you to put<br>your names in. If you&#39;d like to hear more about=
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Subject: Re: [saag] Not standing for Security AD
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From: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
To: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>, saag@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [saag] Not standing for Security AD
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On 28/09/18 14:55, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> Hi folks,
>=20
> I've decided not to re-up as Security AD.

Sorry to hear that, but many thanks for having done it.
I've no idea how you managed both that and working so
much on tls, other IETF specs and $dayjob, but well done!

Cheers,
S.

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> On 28/09/18 14:55, Eric Rescorla wrote:
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> Sorry to hear that, but many thanks for having done it.
> I've no idea how you managed both that and working so
> much on tls, other IETF specs and $dayjob, but well done!
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Sorry to hear that as well, thanks for your service.

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> I see that a number of people have agreed to stand, which is great.
> If others are interested in the position, I would encourage you to put
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class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 11px;">PGP =
Fingerprint:&nbsp;</span></font><span class=3D"" style=3D"text-align: =
-webkit-auto; font-size: 11px;"><font color=3D"#7c7c7c" face=3D"Calibre, =
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0050</font></span></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><span =
class=3D"" style=3D"color: rgb(124, 124, 124); font-size: 8pt; =
font-family: Calibre, Verdana; text-align: -webkit-auto;">"Without =
cryptography vihv vivc ce xhrnrw, however, the only thing that can not =
be unscrambled is an =
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<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Sep 28, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Eric Rescorla &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ekr@rtfm.com" class=3D"">ekr@rtfm.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Hi folks,<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">I've decided not to re-up as Security AD.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">I see that a number of people have agreed to =
stand, which is great.<br class=3D"">If others are interested in the =
position, I would encourage you to put<br class=3D"">your names in. If =
you'd like to hear more about the position, please<br class=3D"">feel =
free to reach out to Ben or me.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">-Ekr<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div>
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