From nobody Sun Jul 21 18:37:01 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931781200C5 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 18:36:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=nightwatchcybersecurity-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C-KLtBx_mqTI for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 18:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pl1-x62a.google.com (mail-pl1-x62a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::62a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 180B1120091 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 18:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pl1-x62a.google.com with SMTP id i2so18404524plt.1 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 18:36:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nightwatchcybersecurity-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=XkXV3YRRoeHlTslC1XsuEr3TLTMxpHcD/OfqygOcpHc=; b=ERoMpbj7XjjhLPZEwnDDk4bkez7vN4Rw02K467d5oovXrC03SnSiWRbLsg3gd6MTGj x7O5cMfg+c5YHzSTWaAyAscCC47ltUSZFkARyNKsF7clufQXuHhoBqrgTj1PtXULgciA bo7DlXHLoJfm7PGs52NHPuy6j78TcW0eex7PAo0+vu3a1ExE46C0lYrdo06PA1+U+0p5 7oXjBRYj4pldIqN7XKeVxe0aLdvekjI9Mq1WAExDubQepWnyTNnmeSG5QCifRhV9yHm/ Mlyw3Xpu3BhWlGguCCanKt9c1iYduGIgfWc7Y8fHZJREStEtOzlxr0l3K7QsI4ULB8/t Sfaw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=XkXV3YRRoeHlTslC1XsuEr3TLTMxpHcD/OfqygOcpHc=; b=TP79DTr+TXS76fGNHsvtUXM1QzFDl5TlYObOBgnBDd+z78KwrO1L0BeUsZBC7m7TJx dlpc8H+Y3lppqdcqf6nzWQ7bATI3kmvBWTS8pz/9gJULVKg9mqGP73ssIlBxUgJvmYOy BfVUQed11F1+wDJqv3cFa4XNEdSaPmxIq/OR8Qnjs8ocSzqq3oa+696MMBZVMfmiUf95 YmPx/3oFRW7Xc2Xg13qmXszGHkf+N1MV7XZki/WcVXe4XeJSftkver3zAe/QIB/w35lX +7c4ccyIBO2lRqTwrx1vQekckTcfUP3T5JVpV6xXcldLpVZQq2hMNTrzxDvxXEaWNYCu LuNw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWJaq9rif7R8JPZ0bYMx2VaJhnlt4Riv+cUNo5+Yn6NnHYcyJLk NNeSQS/8lZ/4mTnKGP93gcBxhZtwq8vDwk87J+cY1AwHWZw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwqhTb7oVppsJUa11lwAjTt3rh7uZYXsY/So43lyzFWGDjF81hmR4w6y9ge2/ZDwpOeOwd5E2hlJwg1Pd3PsIM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:1129:: with SMTP id d38mr73360296pla.220.1563759417207; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 18:36:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <156375896727.8776.18439317597832708839.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <156375896727.8776.18439317597832708839.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Yakov Shafranovich Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 21:36:21 -0400 Message-ID: To: Security Area Advisory Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: [saag] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-foudil-securitytxt-07.txt X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 01:37:00 -0000 ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Date: Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 9:29 PM Subject: New Version Notification for draft-foudil-securitytxt-07.txt To: Edwin Foudil , Yakov Shafranovich A new version of I-D, draft-foudil-securitytxt-07.txt has been successfully submitted by Yakov Shafranovich and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-foudil-securitytxt Revision: 07 Title: A Method for Web Security Policies Document date: 2019-07-21 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 23 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-foudil-securitytxt-07.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-foudil-securitytxt/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-foudil-securitytxt-07 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-foudil-securitytxt Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-foudil-securitytxt-07 Abstract: When security vulnerabilities are discovered by independent security researchers, they often lack the channels to report them properly. As a result, security vulnerabilities may be left unreported. This document defines a format ("security.txt") to help organizations describe the process for security researchers to follow in order to report security vulnerabilities. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat From nobody Mon Jul 22 07:32:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B01812035C for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 07:32:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e5PfSdXHa99M for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 07:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from softronics.hoeneisen.ch (softronics.hoeneisen.ch [62.2.86.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AD3C1203AC for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 07:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by softronics.hoeneisen.ch with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hpZLr-0000l1-Hl for saag@ietf.org; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 16:31:43 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 16:31:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Bernie Hoeneisen X-X-Sender: bhoeneis@softronics.hoeneisen.ch To: saag@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY="37663318-251025344-1563805079=:1692" Content-ID: X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on softronics.hoeneisen.ch); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Subject: [saag] Private Key Synchronization X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 14:32:08 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --37663318-251025344-1563805079=:1692 Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: Hi, Some time ago in a SAAG presentation we mentioned our intension to develop a protocol to synchronize Private Keys among different devices belonging to the same user. Several SAAG participants expressed interested in such a protocol. In the meantime we have runing code and an early Internet Draft to specify the KeySync protocol: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hoeneisen-pep-keysync-00 We are going to give an short introduction during IETF-105 in the MEDUP non-WG meeting taking place Wed, 24 July, 14:50-16:50 EDT in room C2 (21st floor); details s. below. Feel free to join us on Wednesday afternoon. Further discussion on this will be on the MEDUP Mailing list: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/MEDUP All the best, Bernie On Mon, 22 Jul 2019, Hernâni Marques (p≡p foundation) wrote: > Dear folks > > > Following our meeting @ IETF-104 in Prague [1][2], we will have our > second non-WG meeting @ IETF-105 in Montreal, taking place Wed, 24 July, > from 14:50-16:50 EDT in room C2 (21st floor). > > To know how many people to expect, it would be nice you could sign up > here (with some name): > > https://du7f.koalatux.ch/SrtXRHemfNY-xM3k-QWGKA > > Please note that this time we will also provide a Jitsi/WebRTC remote > participation channel (by best effort): > > https://meet.digitale-gesellschaft.ch/medup > > The current agenda is here: > > > https://pep.foundation/dev/repos/internet-drafts/file/tip/medup/ietf-105/agenda.txt > > In that respect, if you want to present an approach / a missing piece in > scope of MEDUP or suggest other changes to the agenda, please reach out! > > > Cu soon & thanks! > > Greets > > Hernani > > > [1] Minutes from IETF-104: > https://pep.foundation/dev/repos/internet-drafts/file/tip/medup/ietf-104/notes-ietf-104-medup-00.txt > > [2] Meeting materials and video podcast: > https://pep.foundation/docs/ietf/104/medup/ > > -- > p≡p foundation: https://pep.foundation/ > --37663318-251025344-1563805079=:1692-- From nobody Tue Jul 23 07:46:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2513120162 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:46:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u4XlPDaEHrg5 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot1-x336.google.com (mail-ot1-x336.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::336]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00B01120043 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-x336.google.com with SMTP id z23so15948701ote.13 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:46:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=fCsaeG/TzEzEPqkyfZAQQvSybhHAtek1nCV4CTwgYOA=; b=IC1UZkYFVwDNxbZFm++hfJQX3nmO/pndfwKigKQPCpMhk/ubFMqttwhGcTLyTG/GX2 cwkydeNKz6uwSQB6+Di8mL08bD90hzmVt3deOZAYO/iNi4ubL4Egvj/s7DKAXlrgIqK1 gUZfmQ+rV5BRXysYVHeuYtDnCWfHkES4O4eJZK6TQxznIPuRlcFbzaHbSNEL1gKg4IJm aLhFCFujHRUcjyjcV1dN66j6v/o7ltSpynZv04iqEzt+/Qex/zJ3Xxu5rBOBEwTqaCOp YjyxX+UCFEshUnPK56lks9+J3Mb+93tUpDFKXanOpBVNWpPuNBbMjtQJrZZms/vsR5vC HRMA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=fCsaeG/TzEzEPqkyfZAQQvSybhHAtek1nCV4CTwgYOA=; b=Q9hsuL6Ht+WHmidATFGU+8DFyFUyGBBnFA+kz5nNW091wbilJNrcKTkUedinNp6FXf KUR21FV9Og9+MnTI202yLLcQ507TOePE1VJbuhmLRwkAX1j1gftVbHvF/2m851zzhhcH N/M9FMfjbjLf14ccLuULnMhK/i3DJjSmckHMgyViOwocF/N/IgVJG9ylDrSxOaxeJC84 SGbljlxj3wqUItiyd5HBcNxVAR2O0/ED0d6eY51YufcuFnMjU+wUPFdfDFUSmfdLJ/Vl mvlgZQ1lVGOs7kOkRMfu5YaUS94JmUSJKiKtFVEKFERYj3oTaHwsUtDgZz7OZ53DHtlK 9cvQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUsytftIc4ScPHH0O3HstumavR2EttjtoZMJcBfJWEEv4YHErUD mQgfHHiUdKVFF4bOpbht86WbyZ/9Or3NFiOHDh1PlS1CaRVOWw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzQN5L+BZeM3ozKz8gkW3QggR6tBKhAZ2/6fOjXRU7Zzs3zG5M2IbdywrBfZUB0N75Di+41YKPWosVnVOqAu6A= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:210f:: with SMTP id i15mr6331958otc.250.1563893183175; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:46:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Kathleen Moriarty Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:45:47 -0400 Message-ID: To: saag@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a65fa8058e5a410b" Archived-At: Subject: [saag] SecDispatch Summary X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 14:46:26 -0000 --000000000000a65fa8058e5a410b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" SecDispatch for IETF 105 met yesterday, Monday 23 July 2019 right after lunch. The agenda items were all presented and discussed with the outcomes decided as listed below. The EST Update work presented and dispatched to LAMPS. The Controller-IKE work has received extensive feedback both on the list and in the meeting. The author will work to specify and refine requirements, revise the draft based on feedback, and the discussion will continue on the SecDispatch list. The Mathematical Mesh work will result in a new mailing list and a BoF proposal. The body of work is quite large and thus further discussion is needed. Questions were raised in terms of willingness to hand over change control and a request from the author was made that when it does, bigger changes coming in early would be helpful. -- Best regards, Kathleen --000000000000a65fa8058e5a410b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
SecDispatch for IETF 105 met yesterday, Monday 23 July 201= 9 right after lunch.=C2=A0 The agenda items were all presented and discusse= d with the outcomes decided as listed below.

The EST Upd= ate work presented and dispatched to LAMPS.

The Controller-IKE work = has received extensive feedback both on the list and in the meeting.=C2=A0 = The author will work to specify and refine requirements, revise the draft b= ased on feedback, and the discussion will continue on the SecDispatch list.=

The Mathematical Mesh work will result in a new mailing list and a = BoF proposal.=C2=A0 The body of work is quite large and thus further discus= sion is needed. Questions were raised in terms of willingness to hand over = change control and a request from the author was made that when it does, bi= gger changes coming in early would be helpful.

--
=

Best regards,
Kathleen
--000000000000a65fa8058e5a410b-- From nobody Tue Jul 23 11:54:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254B5120867 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 11:54:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9aLZ1ug1sAJN for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 11:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.nict.go.jp (ns2.nict.go.jp [IPv6:2001:df0:232:300::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB9012086E for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 11:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw2.nict.go.jp (gw2.nict.go.jp [133.243.18.251]) by ns2.nict.go.jp with ESMTPS id x6NIsXMQ031863 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 03:54:33 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailfs.nict.go.jp (mailfs.nict.go.jp [133.243.18.9]) by gw2.nict.go.jp with ESMTP id x6NIsX9H031858 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 03:54:33 +0900 (JST) Received: from LAPTOP9DLCDU5S (ssh1.nict.go.jp [133.243.3.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailfs.nict.go.jp (NICT Mail Spool Master Server) with ESMTPSA id EFA01806B07 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 03:54:32 +0900 (JST) From: "Takeshi Takahashi" To: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 03:54:32 +0900 Message-ID: <038301d54188$11abd810$35038830$@nict.go.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0384_01D541D3.81944360" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdVBh+aibmX45eFLRsqzvkRCpXgCwA== Content-Language: ja X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.101.2 at zenith2m8 X-Virus-Status: Clean Archived-At: Subject: [saag] MILE summary X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 18:54:42 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0384_01D541D3.81944360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MILE for IETF105 met at 18:10 on Monday 23 July 2019. There were about 20 attendees in the room and 4 attendeed on the Jabber. We confirmed the status and discussed the progress of each of the WG drafts. - XMPP-Grid was published as RFC8600 - JSON IODEF draft is in IETF last call. - Two other ROLIE drafts that are close to being ready to send to the IESG. This draft will be updated as a standard-track document. MILE will not meet in IETF106. ------=_NextPart_000_0384_01D541D3.81944360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

MILE for = IETF105 met at 18:10 on Monday 23 July 2019.

There = were about 20 attendees in the room and 4 attendeed on the = Jabber.

 

We = confirmed the status and discussed the progress of each of the WG = drafts.

- XMPP-Grid was published as = RFC8600

- JSON IODEF draft is in IETF last = call.

- Two other ROLIE drafts that are close to = being ready to send to the IESG. This draft will be updated as a = standard-track document.

 

MILE = will not meet in IETF106.

 

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The summary has already been posted to the datatracker status field [1] also, but is copied here too: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Split DNS was published as RFC8598. Implicit IV and Quantum resistance are still in the Publication Requested state. IPv6 and IPv4 status codes is ready for WG LC, same should be true for IKEv2 intermediate and Labeled IPsec The hybrid qske draft already have some implementation experience, and should be adopted as WG draft very soon. G-DOI IKEv2 work will hopefully start going forward again as there are some external organizations which would like to refer to it, and it should be ready for WG Adoption call. The Post-quantum Key Exchanges for IKEv2 should also be ready for WG Adoption call. We also have new draft about the optimizing rekeying case by omitting SA and TS payload. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Trusted Execution Environment (TEEP) WG met twice this week and made gr= eat progress getting consensus on github issues filed against the arch doc and the OTrP-over-HTT= P doc. On the OTrP protocol doc itself, there was a big discussion about GlobalPlatform and compatibili= ty with another OTrP derivative work being published by that org even though IETF previously got, and the W= G is exercising, non-exclusive rights to OTrP via the normal I-D rules (there are no patent disclosures). = The consensus was to break compatibility with the current version of OTrP used to seed the IETF draft,= with the proposal on the table being to call the IETF work OTrPv2. Finally, there was a discussion about= how to use RATS WG work for attestation in TEEP, which was the consensus on in principle at the last I= ETF. Several integration models were discussed and there seems to be good options that will continue to be = discussed between TEEP and RATS. Dave Thaler --_000_MWHPR21MB07842DFBD0043244BCA490B0A3C60MWHPR21MB0784namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The Trusted Execution Environment (TEEP) WG met twic= e this week and made great progress getting

consensus on github issues filed against the arch do= c and the OTrP-over-HTTP doc.  On the OTrP protocol

doc itself, there was a big discussion about GlobalP= latform and compatibility with another OTrP derivative

work being published by that org even though IETF pr= eviously got, and the WG is exercising, non-exclusive

rights to OTrP via the normal I-D rules (there are n= o patent disclosures).  The consensus was to break

compatibility with the current version of OTrP used = to seed the IETF draft, with the proposal on the table

being to call the IETF work OTrPv2.   Fina= lly, there was a discussion about how to use RATS WG work for

attestation in TEEP,  which was the consensus o= n in principle at the last IETF.  Several integration models

were discussed and there seems to be good options th= at will continue to be discussed between TEEP and

RATS.

 

Dave Thaler

 

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We have one draft that is being evaluated by IESG (smtp-require-tls) and another one (tls-for-email) which are the only active WG documents. Leif & Valery. From nobody Wed Jul 24 13:33:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE5A1205F8 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:33:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=ackl-io.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZAvmLCKrzduN for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wr1-x435.google.com (mail-wr1-x435.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::435]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7317120494 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-x435.google.com with SMTP id z1so48311866wru.13 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:33:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ackl-io.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=YD2azFqwi+f+suAWGC7k5GDRUU9vKA6VTZve6g2UJR4=; b=jEFP3mRCdeZMFQyaWnchADOPo/plkPUFkkXLcP8JHT+sdZFtyC6qLrHOex39Wq/bNL zn9MJrIwbip/NVM73Yg3iBxztagcN+/w4Fvro/oyi8sj0fYmEvy3ehfa1qYF+Ozslrb1 K5MCCne5jYnOKKBbdk0lak7UI9F3kF/ca1+5Zcgo0SLKHFFlVxAkq/N750DNMEvLwv47 c79kM1RvVARDL5fMB6AiYGknMqcGYO1AGEvoGWApB6qpzuP4hgC8NHxWMPMVyt9QeR1e Py5AngSjv8a1xKZtY1A+qZWVj/nTopUSfx7JsG2mdFb7LoRKxaZ0j+0Y+e165HtFNO9B kGeg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=YD2azFqwi+f+suAWGC7k5GDRUU9vKA6VTZve6g2UJR4=; b=and0hU6qX+HPsXl5RQxVBtmRWcS46t+fWCimC030buhsGCyUNNvYIWImxt1hNP+IDY MCFfgitUX+iWOftVDbI3orpddDdpSP9uZkOUDYn7k0Y4JjW2m2cb5GaRVzYL2v6Ky/hR kFnL+TCoJvvW9klkt0tUP8BJ4k3ubMsKDf+vOGslmbd9N6h6/DTQW9TB9THEPhuF5L0+ NBclIXu+YT8MCB6iCPgpRexkl5atDptozJuveRU3h37ITjp4YU5RnyeYkzILEIizCoL2 6irWB1oh9E/AyEx32qCI5GjkhPMgvbK69IQvYuVGhnyTzSu0NATn6MKFBrOBV7WcEyrW /Csg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVxqFHPzUQQ4TbRKSU1EIfHZ988Rwuuxy/JHP97gq9RUj78u/s+ 5qxNevzIAE51sxCXiFePfVkg8pHKwWdkaiuOZMt6P64g9do= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzAz10seSRSFcjYnV8Sh6lS0CREsPyW97bRSNf88A086lLSziOn3+AAxAgQ3wmYqPJxhb4E3v57c1NpPhCWAGk= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4e4d:: with SMTP id r13mr41207192wrt.295.1564000394828; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:33:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: ivaylo petrov Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 16:32:48 -0400 Message-ID: To: saag@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f67449058e73374e" Archived-At: Subject: [saag] COSE WG Report X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 20:33:20 -0000 --000000000000f67449058e73374e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear all, COSE WG will be meeting after saag meeting - on Friday from 12:20. We will be discussing the WG drafts that are not submitted to IESG, namely: * draft-ietf-cose-rfc8152-algs, which has no pending issues, a WGLC is expected to be started soon * draft-ietf-cose-rfc8152-struct, which has no pending issues, a WGLC is expected to be started soon * draft-ietf-cose-hash-algs, which has no pending issues, a WGLC is expected to be started soon * draft-ietf-cose-x509, which has no pending issues, a WGLC is expected to be started soon * draft-ietf-cose-webauthn-algorithms, which has no pending issues Best regards, - Matthew and Ivaylo COSE Chairs --000000000000f67449058e73374e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear all,

COSE W= G will be meeting after saag meeting - on Friday from 12:20. We will be dis= cussing the WG drafts that are not submitted to IESG, namely:

* draft-ietf-cose-rfc8152-algs, which has no pending is= sues, a WGLC is expected to be started soon
* draft-ietf-cose= -rfc8152-struct, which has no pending issues, a WGLC is expected to be star= ted soon
*=C2=A0draft-ietf-cose-hash-alg= s, which has no pending = issues, a WGLC is expected to be started soon
*=C2=A0draft-ietf-= cose-x509,=C2=A0which ha= s no pending issues, a WGLC is expected to be started soon
*=C2= =A0draft-ietf= -cose-webauthn-algorithms, which has no pending issues
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Best regards,
- Matthew and Ivaylo
COSE C= hairs


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--000000000000f67449058e73374e-- From nobody Wed Jul 24 13:52:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172B6120637 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:52:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WVVKOuXqxodM for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE1D112060C for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml708-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 4086D92598E0A8144CAA for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 21:52:44 +0100 (IST) Received: from DGGEMM423-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.1.198.40) by lhreml708-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.49) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 21:52:43 +0100 Received: from DGGEMM511-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.240]) by dggemm423-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.1.198.40]) with mapi id 14.03.0439.000; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 04:52:37 +0800 From: "Xialiang (Frank, Network Standard & Patent Dept)" To: "saag@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: DOTS update Thread-Index: AdVCYa0H7eMubJFCTnqCEzz28385pA== Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 20:52:36 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.124.95.42] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C02846B1344F344EB4FAA6FA7AF481F13E8156CDdggemm511mbschi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: [saag] DOTS update X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 20:52:48 -0000 --_000_C02846B1344F344EB4FAA6FA7AF481F13E8156CDdggemm511mbschi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The DOTS WG met on Wednesday morning. We had very dense agenda. There were eight presentations, four of them were= about new drafts: draft-hayashi-dots-dms-offload-usecase-01 draft-chen-dots-server-hierarchical-deployment-00 draft-chen-dots-attack-informations-00 draft-reddy-dots-telemetry-00 Three presentations were concerned with the updates of active WG documents: draft: draft-ietf-dots-signal-filter-control-01 draft: draft-ietf-dots-signal-call-home-03 draft: draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-04 We also had presentation about using heartbeat mechanism in DOTS signal cha= nnel that hopefully would help to resolve a pending DISCUSS for this draft. Valery & Frank --_000_C02846B1344F344EB4FAA6FA7AF481F13E8156CDdggemm511mbschi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The DOTS WG met on Wednesday= morning.

 

We had very dense agenda. Th= ere were eight presentations, four of them were about new drafts:

 

draft-hayashi-dots-dms-offlo= ad-usecase-01

draft-chen-dots-server-hiera= rchical-deployment-00

draft-chen-dots-attack-infor= mations-00

draft-reddy-dots-telemetry-0= 0

 

Three presentations were con= cerned with the updates of active WG documents:

draft: draft-ietf-dots-signa= l-filter-control-01

draft: draft-ietf-dots-signa= l-call-home-03

draft: draft-ietf-dots-serve= r-discovery-04

 

We also had presentation abo= ut using heartbeat mechanism in DOTS signal channel that hopefully would he= lp to resolve a pending DISCUSS for this draft.

 

Valery & Frank

 

--_000_C02846B1344F344EB4FAA6FA7AF481F13E8156CDdggemm511mbschi_-- From nobody Wed Jul 24 14:35:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5FB120159 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:35:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rn0JCLOuhipE for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.augustcellars.com (augustcellars.com [50.45.239.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B27D120372 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Jude (31.133.136.216) by mail2.augustcellars.com (192.168.0.56) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:35:43 -0700 From: Jim Schaad To: 'saag' References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 17:35:41 -0400 Message-ID: <032001d54267$bfc3e9d0$3f4bbd70$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0321_01D54246.38B2E610" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQISly8MhwJhBLjVg+YSmn4TIXsv9KZfoI8g Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [31.133.136.216] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [saag] ACE Report X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 21:35:52 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_0321_01D54246.38B2E610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ACE will spend some time haranguing our Area Directory for not = processing documents. =20 ACE sent all of the current working group documents to the IESG for = publication between just before the last meeting and this meeting. = There will be presentations on the new Group Keying documents that have = been adopted or may soon be adopted by the working group. =20 Jim =20 =20 From: saag On Behalf Of Daniel Migault Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:10 PM To: saag Subject: [saag] ACE Report =20 Hi,=20 =20 ace meets after saag. =20 Yours,=20 Daniel=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0321_01D54246.38B2E610 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

ACE will spend some time haranguing our Area Directory = for not processing documents.

 

ACE sent all = of the current working group documents to the IESG for publication = between just before the last meeting and this meeting.=C2=A0 There will = be presentations on the new Group Keying documents that have been = adopted or may soon be adopted by the working group.

 

Jim

 

 

From: = saag <saag-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Daniel = Migault
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:10 PM
To: = saag <saag@ietf.org>
Subject: [saag] ACE = Report

 

Hi, 

 

ace meets after saag.

 

Yours, 

Daniel 

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LAMPS met on Tuesday afternoon. There are six documents in the final stages of getting released, but all are now unblocked and should be RFCs soon. The majority of the discussion was about email header protection (draft-ietf-lamps-header-protection-requirements), which is the only current active draft. The group also discussed lightweight CMP profiles, which has been proposed to be added to the charter, and two other topics: one very short document clarifying two that keyUsages missing from RFC 5480 must not be used, and a document describing composite signatures for use cases like supporting a post-quantum transition. -Tim ------=_NextPart_001_02C7_01D542CA.64E342A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

LAMPS met on = Tuesday afternoon.

 

There are = six documents in the final stages of getting released, but all are now = unblocked and should be RFCs soon.

 

The majority = of the discussion was about email header protection = (draft-ietf-lamps-header-protection-requirements), which is the only = current active draft.

 

The group = also discussed lightweight CMP profiles, which has been proposed to be = added to the charter, and two other topics: one very short document = clarifying two that keyUsages missing from RFC 5480 must not be used, = and a document describing composite signatures for use cases like = supporting a post-quantum transition.

 

-Tim

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Linda & Yoav= From nobody Thu Jul 25 08:18:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69E6120071 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 08:18:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Sm6eL8w7UFsx for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 08:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DB5112006D for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 08:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B1560945 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:18:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id FYAYfSPZkPsu for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:18:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (dhcp-914c.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.145.76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 51A156080C for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:18:10 -0400 (EDT) To: 'saag' From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <1686af36-615d-4873-3942-61fd350a24fb@htt-consult.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:17:54 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [saag] tm-rid -- Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 15:18:21 -0000 This effort will be in INT, but has a lot of security components (read:  Trustworthy) The slides from the side meeting are at: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/attachment/wiki/105side-slides/ Here is a brief about the initial work in tm-rid: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to the FAA stating that they plan on the initial rule making on RemoteID for UAS in September, 2019, the initial work on tm-rid is extremely accelerated.  My understanding is if we have initial draft documents we will then have some time for official RFCs. There will also need to be some level of interaction with ATSM that has been generating RemoteID standards.  See: https://github.com/opendroneid/specs The IETF MAY desire to enter into an MOU with ATSM.  ATSM may want it also.  Note that ATSM claims to be the oldest SDO around. The work (drafts) I see are listed below.  A charter for this effort SHOULD be within the 1st draft listed.  I will be working with Stu and Adam on a charter that we will display somewhere given that we are pre-BOF here. We are looking for people interested in writing/reviewing. ====================== Initial Drafts ======================== Trustworthy Multipurpose Remote IDs in UAS draft-tm-rid-uas Abstract:    This memo defines the use of Host Identity Tags (HIT) from the Host Identity Protocol (HIP) that can provide a self-asserting trustable identity for Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS).  The justification for trust in the IDs, generation and registration of HITs, and use of HITs in UAS messages. Trustworthy Multipurpose Remote IDs in Discovery Services draft-tm-rid-uas-ds Abstract:    This memo defines HIT based Discovery Services to obtain both static and dynamic information about UASs.  These services will implement access policy rules to limit what different entities can learn and control of the UASs. Hierarchical HITs for HIP draft-tm-rid-hierarchical-hip Abstract:    This document describes the structure of hierarchical HITs to facilitate large deployments in mobile networks. Registration Services for Hierarchical HITs draft-tm-rid-hierarchical-hip-registration Abstract:    This document describes the registration of hierarchical HITs (HHIT).  It provides for registrar entities and how they can be found.  It does not describe the policies that registrars must meet as HHIT registrars. It may reference RFC7451. New crypto for HIP draft-moskowitz-hip-crypto-update Abstract:    This document adds support for new cryptographic algorithms and methods to HIP. e.g. EDDSA, KMAC, cSHAKE, SHA-3, Kedje. Note that Kedje is a sort of placeholder as NIST is still working on the 'small' cypher that we want for this project. CBOR formats for HIP draft-tm-rid-hip-cbor Abstract:    This document replaces the HIP TLV structures with CBOR CTW. 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The pkinit-agility draft was published as RFC 8636, the SPAKE draft is still under AD evaluation with comments to resolve, and the redesign of the channel-bound-flag continue. 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Ip=[63.35.35.123]; Helo=[64aa7808-outbound-1.mta.getcheckrecipient.com] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: VI1PR0801MB1853 Archived-At: Subject: [saag] OAuth IETF#105 Report X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 15:41:13 -0000 --_000_VI1PR08MB5360E95DF38F66BC17F9216FFAC10VI1PR08MB5360eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Multiple documents that have been stuck for some time have now progressed: Three drafts in IETF LC: * JWT Response for OAuth Token Introspection * OAuth 2.0 Mutual TLS Client Authentication and Certificate-Bound Access T= okens * Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0 Two drafts within the RFC Editor: * OAuth 2.0 Token Exchange * OAuth 2.0 Device Authorization Grant We have two sessions: the first one was on Tuesday and the group discussed the following WG documents: * Reciprocal OAuth * Security BCP The group discussed the idea of developing a new version of the OAuth proto= col. The chairs will discuss next steps with the area director. The second session is on Friday and the group is planning to discuss the fo= llowing WG documents: * JWT profile for ATs * OAuth for browser based apps The group will also discuss few more non-WG documents. IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confid= ential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, p= lease notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any= other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in = any medium. Thank you. --_000_VI1PR08MB5360E95DF38F66BC17F9216FFAC10VI1PR08MB5360eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Multiple documents that have been stuck for some tim= e have now progressed:

Three drafts in IETF LC:
* JWT Response for OAuth Token Introspection
* OAuth 2.0 Mutual TLS Client Authentication and Certificate-Bound Access T= okens
* Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

Two drafts within the RFC Editor:
* OAuth 2.0 Token Exchange
* OAuth 2.0 Device Authorization Grant

We have two sessions: the first one was on Tuesday and the group discussed =
the following WG documents:
* Reciprocal OAuth
* Security BCP

The group discussed the idea of developing a new version of the OAuth proto= col.

The chairs will discuss next steps with the area dir= ector.

 

The second session is on Friday and the group is pla= nning to discuss the following WG documents:
* JWT profile for ATs
* OAuth for browser based apps

The group will also discuss few more non-WG documents.

IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confid= ential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, p= lease notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any= other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. 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There are a few issues remaining for the delegated credentials draft. An update will be issued by September, which includes renaming to Delegated Authentication Keys, at which point we will start WGLC. Formal analysis will proceed in parallel, and the draft will not advance to IESG until analysis is complete. The WG signalled interest in adopting draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate and draft-nir-tls-flags. Both will be confirmed on the list. The followup draft-thomson-tls-sic draft needs more discussion, development, and experimentation before being considered for WG adoption. The chairs decided that draft-camwinget-tls-use-cases was not appropriate for the WG, and advised the authors to seek AD sponsorship or an alternative publication stream. During the second meeting, the DTLS 1.3 was updated based on review from WG participants. There are three interoperable implementations. The draft will go through WGLC and move forward to IESG publication. Open issues in the Encrypted SNI draft were discussed. A small design team will be formed to focus on changes needed to resolve open issues and conduct formal analysis. The Connection ID presentation led to a plan to update the DTLS 1.3 and DTLS 1.2 connection ID documents. Document authors will work to update these drafts so both can move forward. The WG will consider draft-tschofenig-tls-dtls-rrc afterwards. cTLS was presented for informational purposes. Discussion, interaction, and collaboration with the parallel LAKE effort will continue. Hybrid key exchange was presented and will continue discussion on the list. TLS Metadata for Load Balancers was presented. It is unclear if the document should be worked on in TLS or elsewhere as a generic application protocol. Related work was discussed in the past in the HTTP workshop. The IESG and IAB will need to discuss where the work should take place. The HTTPSVC record was presented and received good feedback and support of a generic mechanism. 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boundary="_000_MWHPR21MB0784F00FE67FA461CB3C9254A3C10MWHPR21MB0784namp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 4f6fa627-afcb-4259-93eb-08d7112515f0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 25 Jul 2019 17:25:27.4295 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 72f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: dthaler@ntdev.microsoft.com X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: MWHPR21MB0750 Archived-At: Subject: [saag] SUIT WG report X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 17:25:32 -0000 --_000_MWHPR21MB0784F00FE67FA461CB3C9254A3C10MWHPR21MB0784namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Software Update for IoT (SUIT) WG met this week. The architecture docu= ment is just finishing WGLC. It needs an update to resolve a terminology issue with respect to alignment= with ITU-T SG17. The information model document was updated and a WGLC will begin shortly. The manifest format document, the primary work item of the WG, is in progre= ss and is making good progress. Dave --_000_MWHPR21MB0784F00FE67FA461CB3C9254A3C10MWHPR21MB0784namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The Software Update for IoT (SUIT) WG met this week.=   The architecture document is just finishing WGLC.

It needs an update to resolve a terminology issue wi= th respect to alignment with ITU-T SG17.

The information model document was updated and a WGL= C will begin shortly.

The manifest format document, the primary work item = of the WG, is in progress and is making good progress.

 

Dave

 

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Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: [saag] W3C Update for IETF105 X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 17:45:46 -0000 Some web security (and privacy) updates from W3C: Web Authentication WG is working on WebAuthn Level 2 https://www.w3.org/TR/webauthn-2/ Web Application Security WG took up Fetch Metadata and continues its work on security for the web platform: https://www.w3.org/2011/webappsec/ Privacy Interest Group (PING) is starting a series of blog posts on its work on privacy in web standards, and is currently rechartering to broaden its scope: https://www.w3.org/blog/category/technology/privacy/ https://www.w3.org/Privacy/ https://w3cping.github.io/administrivia/charter-draft.html We started a new Interest Group across W3C, FIDO, and EMVXo to coordinate on Web Payment Security: https://www.w3.org/securepay/ Thanks, --Wendy -- Wendy Seltzer -- wseltzer@w3.org +1.617.715.4883 (office) Strategy Lead and Counsel, World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) https://wendy.seltzer.org/ +1.617.863.0613 (mobile) From nobody Thu Jul 25 11:34:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EC3120198 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:34:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i3VafGLBPFvR for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from softronics.hoeneisen.ch (softronics.hoeneisen.ch [62.2.86.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7062E120191 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 11:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by softronics.hoeneisen.ch with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hqiZQ-00041E-8D for saag@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 20:34:28 +0200 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 20:34:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Bernie Hoeneisen X-X-Sender: bhoeneis@softronics.hoeneisen.ch To: saag@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on softronics.hoeneisen.ch); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Subject: [saag] Related work "Do we need an expanded Internet Threat Model?" X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 18:34:33 -0000 Hi, Listening to the ongoing discussion in the SAAG WG, I think is it worth pointing out to other work in the area that may be relavant to this: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-symeonidis-medup-requirements-00 This draft outlines threats to security and privacy of internet messaging. It is part of the MEDUP (Missing Elements for Decentralized and Usable Privacy) approach and discussed on the MEDUP mailling list: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/MEDUP cheers, Bernie -- http://ucom.ch/ Modern Telephony Solutions and Tech Consulting for Internet Technology From nobody Thu Jul 25 12:02:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81031201E2 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 12:02:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=akamai.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MlTodCsMrGBU for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 12:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0b-00190b01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00190b01.pphosted.com [IPv6:2620:100:9005:57f::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15DD11201D9 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2019 12:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0050102.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0050102.ppops.net-00190b01. 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I presented it at the SMART side = meeting along side the CLESS draft presentations. It is here: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lazanski-smart-users-internet/ = = I would be grateful for comments and feedback. As I said, I look forward to working with Stephen and Jari to work on = all three drafts and on this topic.=20 Dominique --Apple-Mail=_43EC82A9-CB8B-40B7-A32D-6BF203C586B9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Thanks to Stephen for presenting his slides and discussing if = we need a new/expanded Internet Threat Model. 

As I mentioned in my intervention, I = recently submitted an Internet draft on a new Internet Threat Model. I = presented it at the SMART side meeting along side the CLESS draft = presentations. It is here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lazanski-smart-users-int= ernet/ I would be grateful for comments and feedback.

As I said, I look = forward to working with Stephen and Jari to work on all three drafts and = on this topic. 

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([2001:67c:370:128:70fa:52b0:509b:3e13]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f132sm21228092qke.88.2019.07.25.12.29.40 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Jul 2019 12:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-FEA967A9-41E0-4D98-8713-C3C879C4AF96 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Bret Jordan X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16F203) In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 15:29:40 -0400 Cc: saag@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5542C93D-5280-4279-A4C1-287CBFCCAD5E@gmail.com> References: To: Dominique Lazanski Archived-At: Subject: Re: [saag] New Threat Model draft-lazanski-smart-users-Internet X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 19:29:46 -0000 --Apple-Mail-FEA967A9-41E0-4D98-8713-C3C879C4AF96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Dominique for posting your draft here. This is a well written draft a= nd illustrates the problem well. I would encourage everyone here to read it.= =20 There might be a few things I would add to this, but this is well done. Bret=20 Sent from my Commodore 128D PGP Fingerprint: 63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447 F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050 > On Jul 25, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Dominique Lazanski w= rote: >=20 > Thanks to Stephen for presenting his slides and discussing if we need a ne= w/expanded Internet Threat Model.=20 >=20 > As I mentioned in my intervention, I recently submitted an Internet draft o= n a new Internet Threat Model. I presented it at the SMART side meeting alon= g side the CLESS draft presentations. It is here: https://datatracker.ietf.o= rg/doc/draft-lazanski-smart-users-internet/ I would be grateful for comments= and feedback. >=20 > As I said, I look forward to working with Stephen and Jari to work on all t= hree drafts and on this topic.=20 >=20 > Dominique >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > saag mailing list > saag@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/saag --Apple-Mail-FEA967A9-41E0-4D98-8713-C3C879C4AF96 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Dominique for posting your draft her= e. This is a well written draft and illustrates the problem well. I would en= courage everyone here to read it.  

There might be a= few things I would add to this, but this is well done.

B= ret 

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On Jul 25, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Dominique Lazanski &l= t;dml@lastpresslabel.com> w= rote:

Thanks to Step= hen for presenting his slides and discussing if we need a new/expanded Inter= net Threat Model. 

= As I mentioned in my intervention, I recently submitted an Internet draft on= a new Internet Threat Model. I presented it at the SMART side meeting along= side the CLESS draft presentations. It is here: https= ://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lazanski-smart-users-internet/ I w= ould be grateful for comments and feedback.

As I said, I look forward to working with Stephen a= nd Jari to work on all three drafts and on this topic. 

Dominique












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