From nobody Tue Nov 3 11:24:57 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EFDD3A044A for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 11:24:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cert.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BpydeMjQuT5f for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 11:24:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from veto.sei.cmu.edu (veto.sei.cmu.edu [147.72.252.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E67353A0808 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 11:24:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from korb.sei.cmu.edu (korb.sei.cmu.edu [10.64.21.30]) by veto.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 0A3JOrA3031078 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 14:24:53 -0500 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 veto.sei.cmu.edu 0A3JOrA3031078 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cert.org; s=yc2bmwvrj62m; t=1604431493; bh=cjsWZdgoObb5UDcZqJHNZSBp9v+47MWEg+GFVfxMCuE=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=SzBD/YKxeWRqkTI6yUL9vC3xrySYSc/9CNU2ECyse4lD4hvzdV7Nul7Im1QfpqIZN o5NzR5fV4ZhWOvs9eZp5sEb/YILQPlN8dsQVDVTziu35aEbVddNS6iYybuc2O06chH 3qH5ikmQJVunBc2uUHpUMzMuyral39kLpESF5/+Y= Received: from MURIEL.ad.sei.cmu.edu (muriel.ad.sei.cmu.edu [147.72.252.47]) by korb.sei.cmu.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 0A3JOolf016859 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 14:24:50 -0500 Received: from MORRIS.ad.sei.cmu.edu (147.72.252.46) by MURIEL.ad.sei.cmu.edu (147.72.252.47) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2106.2; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 14:24:50 -0500 Received: from MORRIS.ad.sei.cmu.edu ([fe80::555b:9498:552e:d1bb]) by MORRIS.ad.sei.cmu.edu ([fe80::555b:9498:552e:d1bb%13]) with mapi id 15.01.2106.002; Tue, 3 Nov 2020 14:24:49 -0500 From: Roman Danyliw To: "saag@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Call for IETF 109 agenda items Thread-Index: AdayFrFVSVE4LnKASrqA7MhrdhGF6g== Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 19:24:48 +0000 Message-ID: <2291ed6801ea43029669a522db9effef@cert.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.64.202.126] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [saag] Call for IETF 109 agenda items X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2020 19:24:56 -0000 Hello! In preparation for the IETF 109, we are putting together the SAAG agenda. = We would appreciate ideas on presentation topics that you believe would be = of interest to the community. If you can identify an appropriate presenter= (not necessarily yourself) that would be helpful too. =20 Thanks, Roman and Ben From nobody Wed Nov 4 11:18:57 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E437E3A0EE0 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2020 11:18:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.146 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.146 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.247, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P3bQTHe6VqDG for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2020 11:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 499943A0D44 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2020 11:18:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3EE38AA1 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2020 14:18:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id zW697XGsd1rU for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2020 14:18:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9942538A9F for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2020 14:18:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F645DF for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2020 14:18:51 -0500 (EST) To: saag@ietf.org References: <4645.1599064072@localhost> From: Michael Richardson Message-ID: <931546a3-6ce7-6de4-5e33-283930728c61@sandelman.ca> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 14:18:51 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4645.1599064072@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [saag] can an on-path attacker drop traffic? X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2020 19:18:56 -0000 This thread started at: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/saag/FR9WP9Y-73QZVX6Org-ciNDwM0w/ In https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/saag/wTtDYlRAADMmgqd6Vhm8rFybr_g/ EKR proposed: QUIC ended up with a different taxonomy: On-path [Dolev-Yao] Off-path Limited on-path (cannot delete) In https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/saag/b26jvEz4NRHSm-Xva6Lv5-L8QIA/ Christian Huitema proposed: man-in-the-middle [Dolev-Yao] man-on-the-side man-in-the-rough Many liked this, minus "man". In previous discussions of the "MAN" in MITM, some suggested "Malory-in-the-middle". In https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/saag/R0uevzT0Vz9uqqaxiu98GtK1rks/ Alan DeKok proposed the "the council of attackers" malicious messenger [Dolev-Yao: who rewrites messages sent] oppressive observer [who uses your information against you] chaos creator [who just breaks things so you can't use them] Adding: "Alliteration is cute, and helps with memory. :)" From nobody Fri Nov 6 08:45:00 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74C93A08AB for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2020 08:44:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.102 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.102 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Wed, 11 Nov 2020 15:18:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:18:34 -0800 From: Benjamin Kaduk To: saag@ietf.org Message-ID: <20201111201834.GA39170@kduck.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Archived-At: Subject: [saag] Fwd: Webex meeting: Pre-IETF 109 Security Area Office Hours X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 20:18:46 -0000 Hi all, I wanted to call out that (though it's been on the IETF 109 Agenda for a week or so), the SEC ADs will be holding office hours tomorrow at 1600h US-Eastern (so, 0400h Friday ICT). Hopefully having them the week before IETF 109 will allow things to be a bit more relaxed, even if everyone's effective local time zone is in flux. -Ben > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 19:57:31 +0000 > > Pre-IETF 109 Security Area Office Hours > Friday, November 13, 2020 > 4:00 pm | (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada) | 1 hr > Meeting number (access code): 178 969 3859 > Meeting password: Zhma27WPTC7 > > > > When it's time, join the meeting. > https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m4767cee616bb06a365e084c6f8f09717 > > Add to Calendar > https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m06a44ebd4568dfec86698ed98dd6c749 > > > > > TAP TO JOIN FROM A MOBILE DEVICE (ATTENDEES ONLY) > +1-650-479-3208,,1789693859## tel:%2B1-650-479-3208,,*01*1789693859%23%23*01* Call-in toll number (US/Canada) > > > JOIN BY PHONE > 1-650-479-3208 Call-in toll number (US/Canada) > > Global call-in numbers > https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/globalcallin.php?MTID=m5b1fdcc27604d4fa23405ace3b685116 > > > JOIN FROM A VIDEO SYSTEM OR APPLICATION > Dial sip:1789693859@ietf.webex.com > You can also dial 173.243.2.68 and enter your meeting number. > > > Join using Microsoft Lync or Microsoft Skype for Business > Dial sip:1789693859.ietf@lync.webex.com From nobody Tue Nov 17 21:05:51 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40C63A0A50 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 21:05:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=sn3rd.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nQMy-t6r0RMb for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 21:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-il1-x136.google.com (mail-il1-x136.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22E9D3A0A8C for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 21:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-il1-x136.google.com with SMTP id h6so815983ilj.8 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 21:05:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sn3rd.com; s=google; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:message-id:date :cc:to; bh=cMO/8V+qXPL22+uf1mRmvZxnJ2VLHjhk3dPGSZMqhNw=; b=QFVwtWmpNFVlouCdX9kSK0hCqeW4snbbr4NgaoG2U2DDZ9169v88ENfs/DVJV5X+ce OPxKL/ICFm35LuAO00PNhQYCrsvOuNnutAO7T3jgxvdEk8CJqWLVGsfe0W2yKhUQvNaU +fOFDWNyK0p2n4IygvdEGnhR6x1LDbek/PfNw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:message-id:date:cc:to; bh=cMO/8V+qXPL22+uf1mRmvZxnJ2VLHjhk3dPGSZMqhNw=; b=UzFtXVAQ3VYnt2KcuKSArOZMoL1f2zhLCmYXwU/53cm/mqk+gr6MQS0HnXx0/YH/17 yzg+vTo2jLNVTD0FV5gLq9O7T3xw4Y+2XSalRy8pg/NUaDb+Lb/Xwnd0wAAUIHM6jb3a eIBpTh1TDThgYKfJEBbwQohTur6f3TaqXGOosh1es7owNXSZE24i+PnFyjVzp+ZZM+80 FSpLBkk0Z4X4+hX+Z7/CweSFRpr2DA20OLGAQNy5hyGe9aivb7cHwd2SyMSNHnMINrEe amnpkXU+9EcnOI+RlgtPyOVYsN0ph7ltVpS0kmQWD5SSYYJSyJWg3pqDN9wCuAEDXAh4 aGYw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53349/a1b7ycBL8YPoNQqmdBJXOv98V1xKx4lYBrsZsijFAUGHfd J+QW+++EYfLagAlGCqbPN9r+5MlbuMGykg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzIQCHFGaEGQcj3z64+dmY5X+l27yaO9j6f5aJrgPZyeS/TigfHMN6E6zD9F8ohzBWMCw5r2w== X-Received: by 2002:a92:9f42:: with SMTP id u63mr15795839ili.146.1605675943922; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 21:05:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.152] (pool-108-31-39-252.washdc.fios.verizon.net. [108.31.39.252]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v22sm504413ila.84.2020.11.17.21.05.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Nov 2020 21:05:43 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Turner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Message-Id: <86DD1296-3A89-412B-AFDB-7F1136D64111@sn3rd.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 00:05:42 -0500 Cc: TLS List To: saag@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Archived-At: Subject: [saag] TLS@IETF109: SAAG summary X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 05:05:47 -0000 The TLS WG meet Tuesday the 11th of November 2020 from 1430 to 1530 UTC = time. During the WG I-D status update portion of the agenda, it was noted that = a normative reference to draft-kucherawy-rfc8478bis might significantly = delay publication of draft-ietf-tls-certificate-compression. = draft-kucherawy-rfc8478bis is also in the RFC editor=E2=80=99s queue, = but has been pulled back because of a late breaking errata [0]. I = suggested and Ben, our AD, agreed that a way forward was to refer to RFC = 8478 and rely on the the =E2=80=9Cobsoletes=E2=80=9D header for readers = to locate the RFC-to-be for draft-kucherawy-rfc8478bis. No objections = were raised. A fix for the lone remaining AD review comment on = draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id was proposed (will be modified based = on list discussion after the meeting) to tweak the MAC (AtE) input to = something similar to approaches for AEAD and EtM. No objections were = raised. Work on ECH (Encrypted Client Hello) continues. Further work remains = including WG agreement on =E2=80=9Cdo not stick out=E2=80=9D = considerations [1] as well as HRR (Hello Retry Request) inconsistencies = with RFC 8446 [2]. It was suggested that an interim meeting be held to = solely address the =E2=80=9Cdo not stick out=E2=80=9D considerations. There was consensus at the session to use Interoperability Targets as a = mechanism for I-Ds with active implementers; this idea is unabashedly = stolen from the QUIC WG. tl;dr: the WG would declare a particular I-D = the target for an interop event. A wiki, e.g., [3], would be created to = list implementations and an interoperability matrix as well as the I-D = that is the interoperability target. spt for the chairs [0] https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6303 [1] https://github.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-esni/issues/354 [2] https://github.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-esni/issues/358 [3] https://github.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-esni/wiki/Draft--09-Interop= From nobody Tue Nov 17 21:45:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB2C3A1467 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 21:45:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qCSVrBfENQXl for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 21:45:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90DCB3A146C for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 21:45:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB004300AF2 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 00:45:35 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id cllrVEugNRMi for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 00:45:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (pool-141-156-161-153.washdc.fios.verizon.net [141.156.161.153]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33D4E30066E for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 00:45:34 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_199F5663-5EB9-4299-B73F-C0DBF27E47C8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.17\)) Message-Id: <8F932D3C-373B-4020-979A-E95FA220BAF1@vigilsec.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 00:45:35 -0500 To: IETF SAAG X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.17) Archived-At: Subject: [saag] LAMPS Session at IETF 109 X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 05:45:41 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_199F5663-5EB9-4299-B73F-C0DBF27E47C8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii EXISTING WORK draft-ietf-lamps-ocsp-nonce in AUTH48. draft-ietf-lamps-rfc7030est-clarify in AUTH48. draft-ietf-lamps-cmp-algorithms led to a long discussion about what the = mandatory-to-implement algorithms for CMP. draft-ietf-lamps-cmp-updates includes some revised messages that are = identified by newly assigned object identifiers. 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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3688547215_1350824697 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable The GNAP WG met on Tuesday. We now have an editorial team, an initial adopt= ed draft and a large pile of issues. We discussed some of them in the meetin= g, as well as process questions about the use of GitHub for document/issue m= anagement. We plan to keep the momentum going using interim meetings. =20 Thanks, =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Leif and Yaron =20 --B_3688547215_1350824697 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

The GNAP WG met on Tuesday. We now have an editorial team,= an initial adopted draft and a large pile of issues. We discussed some of t= hem in the meeting, as well as process questions about the use of GitHub for= document/issue management. We plan to keep the momentum going using interim= meetings.

 

Thanks,

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TEEP architecture has made good progress and = the pending issues will be resolved in the next revision. Work on TEEP Prot= ocol draft continues, will have a side meeting tomorrow to discuss the issu= es in the draft. Several issues identified in the TEEP protocol draft at Ha= ckathon. TEEP over HTTP draft has addressed all pending issues and will be = progressed along with the TEEP protocol draft. Thanks, Tiru and Nancy --_000_DM6PR16MB3402D0E2201F076FB33A292AEAE10DM6PR16MB3402namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The TEEP WG met on Thursday.  TEEP architecture= has made good progress and the pending issues will be resolved in the next= revision. Work on TEEP Protocol draft continues, will have a side meeting = tomorrow to discuss the issues in the draft. Several issues identified in the TEEP protocol draft at Hackathon. TEEP ov= er HTTP draft has addressed all pending issues and will be progressed along= with the TEEP protocol draft.

 

Thanks,

Tiru and Nancy

 

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[91.102.42.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id rp13sm12882786ejb.79.2020.11.18.03.54.30 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 18 Nov 2020 03:54:31 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/16.43.20110804 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 13:54:29 +0200 From: Yaron Sheffer To: "saag@ietf.org" Message-ID: <42C3B103-8CB4-4407-8142-A91126AB7996@gmail.com> Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-sheffer-ietf-ciphertext-format-00.txt References: <160569509832.5113.14972802840358493366@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <160569509832.5113.14972802840358493366@ietfa.amsl.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: [saag] FW: New Version Notification for draft-sheffer-ietf-ciphertext-format-00.txt X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 11:54:39 -0000 Gleb, Yoav and I just submitted this individual draft. It addresses the pro= blem I discussed at HotRFC (see slides [1]). Enterprises often generate very large amounts of application-level encrypte= d data, stored at rest. The enterprise needs to be able to discover/detect e= ncrypted data, often contained in petabyte-scale "data lakes". The data is o= ften moved around or duplicated, and so the next challenge is to attribute t= he encrypted data, i.e. understand which organization owns it. Our proposal = adds very small, binary metadata, to enable such detection and attribution o= f data. We would appreciate your comments. Please reach out to the authors if you'd= like to join this effort. Thanks, Yaron [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/109/materials/slides-109-hotrfc-ge= neric-ciphertext-format-00 =EF=BB=BFOn 11/18/20, 12:24, "internet-drafts@ietf.org" wrote: A new version of I-D, draft-sheffer-ietf-ciphertext-format-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Yaron Sheffer and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-sheffer-ietf-ciphertext-format Revision: 00 Title: A Generic Ciphertext Format Document date: 2020-11-18 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 9 URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-sheffer-ietf-ciph= ertext-format-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sheffer-ietf-cip= hertext-format/ Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-sheffer-iet= f-ciphertext-format Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sheffer-ietf-cipherte= xt-format-00 Abstract: This document defines a format for encrypted data, that allows to detect such data in large data stores, and associate it back to the system where it was created and the key with which it was encrypted. This allows organizations to extend the concept of data governance t= o encrypted data, and to manage such data even when encrypted by multiple systems and cloud providers. We intend to standardize this format through the IETF, and the document is organized as an Internet Draft. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submi= ssion until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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We have several documents in progress, with a few (labeled IPsec, = IPv4/IPv6 coexistence, TFS) ready for WGLC. There are also a bunch of = proposed documents for whom we will have an adoption call soon. 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There are also a bunch of = proposed documents for whom we will have an adoption call soon. Among = them, the IKEv1 graveyard draft (deprecating IKEv1) is likely to go = rather quickly from adoption to completion. --Apple-Mail=_3E3A27DE-C795-4166-AAC9-3E08C4AC003B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Correction: the IPv4/IPv6 coexistence draft is past WGLC = and is now in IETF last call.

On 18 = Nov 2020, at 14:23, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

The = IPsecME working group met on Tuesday.

We = have several documents in progress, with a few (labeled IPsec, IPv4/IPv6 = coexistence, TFS) ready for WGLC.  There are also a bunch of = proposed documents for whom we will have an adoption call soon. =  Among them, the IKEv1 graveyard draft (deprecating IKEv1) is = likely to go rather quickly from adoption to = completion.

= --Apple-Mail=_3E3A27DE-C795-4166-AAC9-3E08C4AC003B-- From nobody Wed Nov 18 04:50:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE66D3A1869 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 04:50:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y4_g-7kNUBur for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 04:50:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11F803A1868 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 04:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from kduck.mit.edu ([24.16.140.251]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 0AICoIfm013640 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 18 Nov 2020 07:50:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 04:50:18 -0800 From: Benjamin Kaduk To: Fernando Gont Cc: "saag@ietf.org" Message-ID: <20201118125018.GP39170@kduck.mit.edu> References: <159609107416.27817.11063909245893590356@ietfa.amsl.com> <6df388ea-a611-9413-6511-2fe88cf5a378@si6networks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6df388ea-a611-9413-6511-2fe88cf5a378@si6networks.com> Archived-At: Subject: Re: [saag] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations-05.txt X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 12:50:27 -0000 A (very belated) thanks for the updates, Fernando. I think it is just about ready for IETF LC. I do have a few notes on the -05 (below), but am happy to have them addressed either before or after IETF LC. Section 3 nit: s/still fails/still fail/ I think it's probably an improvement to apply OLD: A number of protocol implementations (too many of them) simply overlook the security and privacy implications of identifiers. Examples of them are the specification of TCP port numbers in [RFC0793], the specification of TCP sequence numbers in [RFC0793], or the specification of the DNS TxID in [RFC1035]. On the other hand, there are a number of protocol specifications that over-specify some of their associated protocol identifiers. Similarly, [RFC2460] suggested the use of a global counter for the generation of Fragment Identification values, when the interoperability properties of uniqueness per {Src IP, Dst IP} could be achieved with other algorithms that do not result in negative security and privacy implications. NEW: Both under-specifying and over-specifying identifier contents is hazardous. TCP port numbers and sequence numbers [RFC0793] and DNS TxID [RFC1035] were under-specified, leading to implementations that used predictable values and thus were vulnerable to numberous off-path attacks. Over-specification, as for IPv6 Interface Identifiers (IIDs) [RFC4291] and Fragment Identification values [RFC2460], leaves implementations unable to respond to security and privacy issues stemming from the mandated algorithm -- IPv6 IIDs need not expose privacy-sensitive link-layer addresses, and predictable Fragment Identifiers invite the same off-path attacks that plague TCP. Section 9.2 The [Klein2007] link seems to have gone stale; we may have to find a different site to reference. Thanks again, Ben On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 03:53:02AM -0300, Fernando Gont wrote: > Hi, > > We have posted a rev that means to address Benjamin's feedback. It is > available at: > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations-05.txt > > The diff from the previous version is available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations-05.txt > > Thanks! > > Regards, > Fernando > > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: New Version Notification for > draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations-05.txt > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 23:37:54 -0700 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: Fernando Gont , Ivan Arce > > > A new version of I-D, draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations-05.txt > has been successfully submitted by Fernando Gont and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations > Revision: 05 > Title: Security Considerations for Transient Numeric Identifiers > Employed in Network Protocols > Document date: 2020-07-29 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 9 > URL: > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations-05.txt > Status: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations/ > Htmlized: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations-05 > Htmlized: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations > Diff: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations-05 > > Abstract: > Poor selection of transient numerical identifiers in protocols such > as the TCP/IP suite has historically led to a number of attacks on > implementations, ranging from Denial of Service (DoS) to data > injection and information leakage that can be exploited by pervasive > monitoring. To prevent such flaws in future protocols and > implementations, this document updates RFC 3552, requiring future > RFCs to contain analysis of the security and privacy properties of > any transient numeric identifiers specified by the protocol. > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > > > _______________________________________________ > saag mailing list > saag@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/saag From nobody Wed Nov 18 05:10:18 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF59F3A1884; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 05:10:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=smyslov.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DfT6g4rtYo5Y; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 05:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from direct.host-care.com (direct.host-care.com [198.136.54.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B43B3A188A; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 05:10:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smyslov.net ; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :Date:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=5yBjK9oxVw0nZPt8NVHkMeHAOdwh6dlQGOi60aOaHb8=; b=wrqB+N8HEGyC/e9S7shU/592RW m6HeIyVlpAIS1Ufcx1a+oBxfdYcV+JUoMWrmAyXdhk1VMKuLhhnGNkKAR5x0yTYKTWp45D/iDTB9f gh4AV81NHHiE3rIW6PUEPb3yEbo+G78nK6o3bh46lb5HUUmCqieaCsHMOiQhqwZ9mWsAqx9hlBRsK 1BrqpvK5pFcdvmYF7CMRoIUu57Ir1G3++6heyxCmnPOrizEZQc6ETHQaf2pS0nf+VUo2lAcPrlYPG NIpyScaIFJWOSeBOfoh01zBHUps71A3cVBODP4M3fhoHplk5Wq2WxdHc3Pic3RFHEZ8bCY2Wzj23U 9JeoPo8g==; Received: from [93.188.44.203] (port=51938 helo=buildpc) by direct.host-care.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1kfNDu-0002Cg-Gp; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 08:10:10 -0500 From: "Valery Smyslov" To: Cc: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:10:11 +0300 Message-ID: <083401d6bdac$272b6bf0$758243d0$@smyslov.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ada9qxJfuPDz8MwaQGOj0Rze0/3fwQ== Content-Language: ru X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - direct.host-care.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - smyslov.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: direct.host-care.com: authenticated_id: valery@smyslov.net X-Authenticated-Sender: direct.host-care.com: valery@smyslov.net Archived-At: Subject: [saag] UTA WG report X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 13:10:16 -0000 UTA WG didn't meet at IETF 109. We have 3 working documents: - draft-ietf-uta-tls-for-email-05 is in the RFC Editor queue waiting for a missing normative reference to draft-ietf-tls-oldversions-deprecate - draft-ietf-uta-rfc7525bis has some progress since it was adopted in May - draft-ietf-uta-tls13-iot-profile still waits for more discussions on the ML Leif & Valery From nobody Wed Nov 18 05:27:52 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52903A18B3; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 05:27:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=smyslov.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id elcnGPq-SdIx; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 05:27:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from direct.host-care.com (direct.host-care.com [198.136.54.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7089C3A18B5; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 05:27:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smyslov.net ; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :Date:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=+qSEuEtknqMDPanCfC7goGvORruFzZZq4CSugg5c9b0=; b=FNT3Fh1XDnzhyb/QM5HhptT8ru AggOVbA+m2zQhv2tdvW+q2xcA7Pld4NCMqB+2XiBbEIxB6ozA1klQoa2MeYmetGF3eKkchGjTpqjz B8ndP4jy8MmYQIjWJgbdvLXHbAHlCY19wPXds1HCsQ5DF0ZmaVDC00N9d0n8ct6QTi6coVhOI0CQH 0gFuhVUGMjPesWM5TpqTBiUsEDX+qi3z+lAAr7ZzXv6FyzKBl7e5JhmR7hhCj37Yx0p+JN3gz7H/Q R1QSHPvUfDYrPIu/0h80X6qZTv8jka4keMWOfFZBLcxBZsmfHJhTfAiXMwk2xtb9ZcDNG85cJoyuD ZxT8K+7Q==; Received: from [93.188.44.203] (port=52100 helo=buildpc) by direct.host-care.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1kfNUv-0005uz-M1; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 08:27:46 -0500 From: "Valery Smyslov" To: Cc: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:27:46 +0300 Message-ID: <083501d6bdae$9c1e02e0$d45a08a0$@smyslov.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ada9rEX+LKmUuVSIR3qjNmLKFG6fNw== Content-Language: ru X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - direct.host-care.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - smyslov.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: direct.host-care.com: authenticated_id: valery@smyslov.net X-Authenticated-Sender: direct.host-care.com: valery@smyslov.net Archived-At: Subject: [saag] DOTS WG report X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 13:27:50 -0000 DOTS WG didn't meet at IETF109. We have 8 working group documents: 1. draft-ietf-dots-use-cases-25 is in the AUTH48 state waiting for approvals from few co-authors 2. draft-ietf-dots-signal-filter-control-07 is in the RFC Editor queue waiting for missing normative reference to draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis 3. draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-15 has been just sent to the RFC Editor 4. draft-ietf-dots-signal-call-home-11 is in the IESG evaluation state 5. draft-ietf-dots-rfc8782-bis-02 has passed WGLC and is waiting for shepherd write-up 6. draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-14 has passed WGLC and is waiting for shepherd write-up 7. draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases was adopted in September and has some progress since then 8. draft-ietf-dots-multihoming is still waiting for more discussions Regards, Frank & Valery From nobody Wed Nov 18 06:30:29 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EB23A09D4; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 06:30:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cs.tcd.ie Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TrMfac8xHcYy; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 06:30:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [134.226.56.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE88E3A09D1; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 06:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D866BE56; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 14:30:20 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at scss.tcd.ie Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id orIA1tMgAuzF; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 14:30:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [10.244.2.119] (95-45-153-252-dynamic.agg2.phb.bdt-fng.eircom.net [95.45.153.252]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3FB36BE53; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 14:30:18 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; s=mail; t=1605709818; bh=0FU5uagmG/sqFwgTTY3/vPmdhaRnXkrKe23biSaRNtM=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:From; b=umqn3cOuo0+KWURI00svNwCIfgMz3J+8/DNcmnhN0/TPBDGP/2wtpdm4kkPn0HvnV YalEMMTja7brH6gOOw3o9xuBOGgxP2J9tK8Ks+U7CtsVRAbm+17091ZBNW7pFHi/bP fn9eSLayM8NadBRxkBUJp+0gbZoCXbVLQsc4eWis= To: "saag@ietf.org" , "lake@ietf.org" From: Stephen Farrell Message-ID: <9a666a3b-eab7-00f1-3ba0-52b519eda2a6@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 14:30:17 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aUX1ExCqceQamURIDpW9B9l1lJexX8YjY" Archived-At: Subject: [saag] LAKE notes for saag X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 14:30:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --aUX1ExCqceQamURIDpW9B9l1lJexX8YjY Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Bt3IMEEit3PLx9Me81esOcCGWgIkHy6TM"; protected-headers="v1" From: Stephen Farrell To: "saag@ietf.org" , "lake@ietf.org" Message-ID: <9a666a3b-eab7-00f1-3ba0-52b519eda2a6@cs.tcd.ie> Subject: LAKE notes for saag --Bt3IMEEit3PLx9Me81esOcCGWgIkHy6TM Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------45666ECFB6D8E4C69542D652" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------45666ECFB6D8E4C69542D652 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The LAKE WG met 0500 Monday. Almost the entire agenda was discussing issues that had been raised in github. [1] As we didn't get to the end of that list we're planning an interim meeting before the end of the year to try close out more issues. S & M. 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Message-ID: <5987434a-ceb7-bbc7-2c39-3428298a113e@cs.tcd.ie> Subject: OpenPGP wg notes for saag --f2ig9sGk8mWNnXNThAjBIf8r38dgxXqkm Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0CF021A5FFA5AD8542BF063F" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0CF021A5FFA5AD8542BF063F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The OpenPGP wg hasn't yet formally awoken from slumber but there's a charter [1] in the process of (hopefully) being approved by the IESG so it should be a WG next time, focused on producing an update to RFC4880 as it's main work item. Cheers, S & D. 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Smyshlyaev" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 18:43:01 +0300 Message-ID: To: saag@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000cb66f05b4637878" Archived-At: Subject: [saag] CFRG IETF 109 report X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 15:43:16 -0000 --0000000000000cb66f05b4637878 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" CFRG met on Tuesday. Chairs gave an update. Since our last meeting, we have one new RFC from the group: RFC 8937: Randomness Improvements for Security Protocols We've had the following presentations on the following documents in process in the RG: 1) draft-irtf-cfrg-opaque 2) draft-irtf-cfrg-cpace 3) draft-irtf-cfrg-ristretto255-decaf448 4) draft-irtf-cfrg-aead-limits 5) draft-irtf-cfrg-voprf There was also an additional presentation: "Secure Crypto Config". 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RFC 8937: Ra= ndomness Improvements for Security Protocols

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3) draft-irtf-cfrg-ris= tretto255-decaf448
4) draft-irtf-cfrg-aead-limits
5) draft-irtf-cfrg-= voprf

There was also an additional presentation: "Secure Crypto= Config".

Regards,
Stanislav, Alexey,= Nick
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Wed, 18 Nov 2020 14:21:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Daniel Migault Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 17:20:51 -0500 Message-ID: To: saag Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d232b605b46906c6" Archived-At: Subject: [saag] ACE report to SAAG X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 22:21:13 -0000 --000000000000d232b605b46906c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The ACE working group met during the IETF 109 and has a very constructive meeting. The WG discussed the new charter on which consensus has been reached. Since the last meeting, * the WG addressed the comments received during LC for 3 documents: * draft-ietf-ace-dtls-authorize-14 * draft-ietf-ace-oauth-authz-35 * draft-ietf-ace-oauth-params-13 * draft-ietf-ace-oscore-profile-13 * the WG addressed the WGC comments of the following draft: * draft-ietf-ace-mqtt-tls-profile-08 The follwoing drafts have been updated / discussed during the meeting: * draft-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm-10 * draft-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm-oscore-09 * draft-ietf-ace-oscore-gm-admin-01 The WG plans to meet regularly on monthly based interim mettings to move these drafts forward. The following potentially new drafts havebeen presented: * draft-tiloca-ace-group-oscore-profile * draft-selander-ace-coap-est-oscore * draft-selander-ace-ake-authz 10 min Goran * draft-tiloca-ace-revoked-token-notification Yours, Daniel --000000000000d232b605b46906c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The ACE working group met during the IETF 109 and has= a very constructive meeting.

The WG discussed the= new charter on which consensus has been reached.

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* the WG addressed the comments rec= eived during LC for 3 documents:
=C2=A0 * draft-ietf-ace-dtls-aut= horize-14
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* the WG addressed the WGC comments of the f= ollowing draft:
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The follwoing drafts have been updated / discussed during the meeting:=
* draft-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm-10
* draf= t-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm-oscore-09
* draft-ietf-ace-oscore-gm-admin-01

The W= G plans to meet regularly on monthly based interim mettings to move these d= rafts forward.

The following potentially new drafts havebeen presented:
*=C2=A0draft-tiloca-ace-group-oscore= -profile
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--000000000000d232b605b46906c6-- From nobody Wed Nov 18 14:21:55 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBD93A0DEB; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 14:21:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z-_E-6lPjEZr; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 14:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ua1-x935.google.com (mail-ua1-x935.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::935]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 683573A1043; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 14:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ua1-x935.google.com with SMTP id n5so238418uao.2; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 14:21:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=DdKwWJvivkzOQDP5xzSFWFkk3ip5zTuvr4ibhjp0oRU=; b=FCTMXxUte2FCx0laM/Adg/PtGVKLaZ7k+U5G+b7W+6XPpgYxbL5fxSZ6QE8Kc5Zw57 kTkApQwaFB7gtA9RkTgsK33ZM8cBLlPEZsb2Ekc3aGYlCmTlf5vMX8X55qr8w/hBS7VD iD27wkfnH2l9st6VVWce1RZk1yrqB+VUjE6A8w5EmLWSCSJkVqXqccPo7WF8lm0YtHDd KCWTnn+tmDW879i370nicEjZB7SgeV6HhZe+4HYyZeZeBGO0AgLFAHBpIdngaS7YgKhy 3P/1gCaj1wmZ5+DTW3HA+uiY0ufVitEH0j8Wz5lUApj09oISFWFNuy3j7VVubXeUTGQ6 61jg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=DdKwWJvivkzOQDP5xzSFWFkk3ip5zTuvr4ibhjp0oRU=; b=bbXPPpBKrbfumjeeXt0BpzSv5kUXWkJh31fZ8rj1VGhEngvj5v8ARfwDrLYTWcxndp lVLF1aTmkWG5xOPliBL4nu24q6qlVVECkuX9XM/GKtdgWlIzdg2n/EWeX8Xtz00mBYRD TZcETXpzaD4iAa6NyWWRM1BPlHIVNXbQ3uKs0YiliOfkn54MgDV1ANo0CFm41wbIiYI/ 3iTBNvaNe9Qj5vqrfZB9KuGkDDsv9j/rz775oPhPD1vQT/6Z0anpLOuAD4mtZykQse/x VAxroB1/0Wz8rPaL6z1cK17Xd8CCGqEZzEHkOEDVGDMM7XQcyqGu0lnHQrKuUDeQGy8E llOQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531SNeU0ZiRh1sabQPs9+/iElI4J8jsoevYut4r6DUAG0kXMDKW7 85ZsNGzwvOnDyiFAZHm+Va8drxevn8XaOQ/tJ7yh4RBieTxvDw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzkGLAdihgKwAvX8YsoMfRHmpkYv38BoX2m9SiqvauP7WwZT9pBeDzVqRLE7FrWyYsikx0tB44S6IGFnnct4AQ= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:1606:: with SMTP id k6mr5976036uae.80.1605738089180; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 14:21:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Daniel Migault Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 17:21:18 -0500 Message-ID: To: saag Cc: drip-chairs@ietf.org, =?UTF-8?B?w4lyaWMgVnluY2tl?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006872b605b46908d2" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [saag] DRIP report to SAAG X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 22:21:54 -0000 --0000000000006872b605b46908d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Drone Remote ID Protocol (DRIP) while in the Internet Area seems to me of interest for the security community, so just in case I am adding the report here. DRIP meets this meeting. The requirement draft [1] finished its WGLC and will be moved forward in the coming days. The working group is focusing on the architecture document [2] as well as the specification of the UAS remote ID [3]. The specifications are implemented in parallel and there are at least two known implementations one of which was presented during the session. Yours, Med and Daniel [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-drip-reqs/ [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-drip-arch/ [3] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-drip-rid/ --0000000000006872b605b46908d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Drone Remote ID Protocol (DRIP) while in the Internet= Area seems to me of interest for the security community, so just in case I= am adding the report here.

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The specif= ications are implemented in parallel and there are at least two known imple= mentations one of which was presented during the session.=C2=A0=C2=A0
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--0000000000006872b605b46908d2-- From nobody Wed Nov 18 18:56:16 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450FE3A0AA3 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 18:56:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pLKyR7DyHFEm for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 18:56:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 833F23A0AA1 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 18:56:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA38389CA; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 21:57:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id B6ySnmbLRpa5; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 21:57:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBAAC389B9; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 21:57:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004E93BF; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 21:56:07 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: Yaron Sheffer , "saag\@ietf.org" In-Reply-To: <42C3B103-8CB4-4407-8142-A91126AB7996@gmail.com> References: <160569509832.5113.14972802840358493366@ietfa.amsl.com> <42C3B103-8CB4-4407-8142-A91126AB7996@gmail.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: Re: [saag] FW: New Version Notification for draft-sheffer-ietf-ciphertext-format-00.txt X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 02:56:14 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I missed your hotrfc. I read the slides and scanned the content. My only comment is: begs for CBOR with a CDDL definition. Might cost 1 byte on average, maybe 2 bytes worse case. If you really want it a fixed header, then declare that the integers are always using a particular encoding, this still wins in upward compatible. =2D- Michael Richardson . o O ( IPv6 I=C3=B8T consulti= ng ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAl+13scACgkQgItw+93Q 3WV74gf/e126mOIHUC4Aq66Hb7Oz65gA3ftJ0EYc2NiH41Dg3z4pAeJW68wHBkWs w0ft5JZ9mtYhZj/BzCifDmKMQR4H07IDgbr1+Tnv/1Z26/ynWoaBYP/wDeuVpTl1 gbtOfAEeTHE9CXEF4veBuIKoMTnR/A4vSUnZU9Dps3UxAy47v9DjJQOU2MEaRUTo WBQCBviBo6vBaP0x+3CazVYUBO95X3OGAT5StOK9nEigwG20wKnIZ6wietAp/k4C xjy11MNWxzYqcc5XC35n0zi1c379kzo/2Ox/19jqAjZ/utzfNP9IT9u7kkxpxSh1 DHCrBURXo0nEUpoNqsykSsgMzmSrpg== =4OjE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Wed Nov 18 18:59:39 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A739A3A0AC6 for ; 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([2601:280:4f00:14a:956d:c1c9:210f:4d58]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p28sm17861966ilb.9.2020.11.18.19.35.56 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 18 Nov 2020 19:35:57 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Miller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.20.0.2.21\)) Message-Id: <7E802460-063B-4847-A57C-90F82D958251@outer-planes.net> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 20:35:56 -0700 To: saag@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.20.0.2.21) Archived-At: Subject: [saag] COSE report to SAAG X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 03:36:00 -0000 COSE met second session Monday, 16 November at 14:00. We briefly discussed the current status of drafts talked a little more = about rechartering, and spent the majority of time going over CBOR encoding of X.509 = certificates. Most WG documents are finishing IESG evaluation or in the RFC Editors = queue. The last remaining -- draft-ietf-cose-countersign -- will be ready for WGLC once = some TBD sections (all pending examples) are removed. The recharter would allow the WG to accept algorithm documents in many = cases without any further changes to the charter, and to work on CBOR encodings for = X.509 certificates (sometimes still called "compression" within the WG). - Ivaylo and Matthew COSE Chairs From nobody Wed Nov 18 20:47:27 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754AE3A0C58 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 20:47:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.102 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.102 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ericsson.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id taduUXXjOkc0 for ; 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See RFC 8710 for an example of how to do this with minimum impact. 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Tue, 24 Nov 2020 19:34:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Juan Carlos Zuniga Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 22:34:24 -0500 Message-ID: To: saag@ietf.org Cc: draft-olteanu-intarea-socks-6@ietf.org, int-area@ietf.org, Juan Carlos Zuniga , Wassim Haddad Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003b2d3505b4e61b3e" Archived-At: Subject: [saag] Call for SAAG comments on draft-olteanu-intarea-socks-6 X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 03:34:40 -0000 --0000000000003b2d3505b4e61b3e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello, IntArea WG is planning to adopt draft-olteanu-intarea-socks-6, and a circulation with SAAG was suggested at IETF 109. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-olteanu-intarea-socks-6-11 The document has been discussed for quite some time already at IntArea, it has evolved significantly, and it has received positive comments. Below you also have some pointers to existing implementations. If you have an opinion on whether this document should be adopted please cc this email to both saag and IntArea. Thanks, Juan-Carlos & Wassim (IntArea Chairs) -------- In anticipation of the adoption call, I'd like to share the status of our SOCKS v6 implementation. We have the following pieces of software, all released under a very permissive license: * A library for creating and parsing SOCKS v6 requests and responses (incl. options and sanity checks). It's feature-complete as of -08: https://github.com/45G/libsocks6msg * A utility library: https://github.com/45G/libsocks6util * A TCP proxy and transparent proxifier. (TCP Bind, UDP and v5-style authentication are not supported yet.) Most notable features are implemented: TLS1.3 with early data, idempotence, sessions, 0-RTT authentication, TFO, MPTCP and DNS. https://github.com/45G/sixtysocks --0000000000003b2d3505b4e61b3e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,

IntArea WG is planning to adopt draft-oltea= nu-intarea-socks-6, and a circulation with SAAG was suggested at IETF 109.<= br>

The document has been discussed for quite some ti= me already at IntArea, it has evolved significantly, and it has received po= sitive comments.

Below you also have some pointers to ex= isting implementations.

If you have an opinion on whether= this document should be adopted please cc this email to both saag and IntA= rea.

Thanks,

Juan-Carlos & Wassim
(IntArea Chairs)

=C2=A0
--------
In anticipat= ion of the adoption call, I'd like to share the status of our SOCKS v6 = implementation.
We have the following pieces of software, all released u= nder a very permissive license:

=C2=A0* A library for creating and p= arsing SOCKS v6 requests and responses (incl. options and sanity checks). I= t's feature-complete as of -08: https://github.com/45G/libsocks6msg

=C2=A0* A utility l= ibrary: https://github.com= /45G/libsocks6util

=C2=A0* A TCP proxy and transparent proxifier= . (TCP Bind, UDP and v5-style authentication are not supported yet.) Most n= otable features are implemented: TLS1.3 with early data, idempotence, sessi= ons, 0-RTT authentication, TFO, MPTCP and DNS. https://github.com/45G/sixtysocks

--0000000000003b2d3505b4e61b3e-- From nobody Fri Nov 27 21:39:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: saag@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FC23A0408 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 21:39:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.919 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.919 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wiuOlMZ_WlRY for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 21:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB5163A03EF for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 21:39:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from kduck.mit.edu ([24.16.140.251]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 0AS5dI5n016596 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 00:39:22 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 21:39:18 -0800 From: Benjamin Kaduk To: saag@ietf.org Message-ID: <20201128053918.GS34187@kduck.mit.edu> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Archived-At: Subject: Re: [saag] Call for SAAG comments on draft-olteanu-intarea-socks-6 X-BeenThere: saag@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Area Advisory Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 05:39:27 -0000 If you needed something further to pique your interest, the Abstract includes: This memo proposes SOCKS version 6, which reduces the number of RTTs used, takes full advantage of TCP Fast Open, and adds support for 0-RTT authentication. and the body also discusses an "idempotence token" to avoid message replay. -Ben On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:34:24PM -0500, Juan Carlos Zuniga wrote: > Hello, > > IntArea WG is planning to adopt draft-olteanu-intarea-socks-6, and a > circulation with SAAG was suggested at IETF 109. > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-olteanu-intarea-socks-6-11 > > The document has been discussed for quite some time already at IntArea, it > has evolved significantly, and it has received positive comments. > > Below you also have some pointers to existing implementations. > > If you have an opinion on whether this document should be adopted please cc > this email to both saag and IntArea. > > Thanks, > > Juan-Carlos & Wassim > > (IntArea Chairs) > > > -------- > In anticipation of the adoption call, I'd like to share the status of our > SOCKS v6 implementation. > We have the following pieces of software, all released under a very > permissive license: > > * A library for creating and parsing SOCKS v6 requests and responses > (incl. options and sanity checks). It's feature-complete as of -08: > https://github.com/45G/libsocks6msg > > * A utility library: https://github.com/45G/libsocks6util > > * A TCP proxy and transparent proxifier. (TCP Bind, UDP and v5-style > authentication are not supported yet.) Most notable features are > implemented: TLS1.3 with early data, idempotence, sessions, 0-RTT > authentication, TFO, MPTCP and DNS. https://github.com/45G/sixtysocks > _______________________________________________ > saag mailing list > saag@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/saag