From sam-bounces@irtf.org Thu Nov 02 10:30:09 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfeVh-000515-00; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:29:41 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfeVe-0004u5-L4 for sam@irtf.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:29:38 -0500 Received: from tcmail23.telekom.de ([217.6.95.237]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfeVa-0005U9-51 for sam@irtf.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:29:38 -0500 Received: from S4DE9JSAANM.ost.t-com.de (S4DE9JSAANM.ost.t-com.de [10.125.177.122]) by tcmail21.telekom.de with ESMTP; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 16:29:32 +0100 Received: from S4DE9JSAAIG.ost.t-com.de ([10.125.177.192]) by S4DE9JSAANM.ost.t-com.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 2 Nov 2006 16:29:32 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: [SAM] Interim SAM RG Meeting Announcement Jan 11, 2007 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 16:29:26 +0100 Message-Id: <1E4CCB2441C5C0409AD8A929482A09F3F94EE1@S4DE9JSAAIG.ost.t-com.de> in-reply-to: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RE: [SAM] Interim SAM RG Meeting Announcement Jan 11, 2007 Thread-Index: Acbr7oMolk+skFYnQbis1j/bi4ousASpXq5g From: "Leymann, Nicolai" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2006 15:29:32.0073 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1A5F990:01C6FE93] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d0bdc596f8dd1c226c458f0b4df27a88 Cc: X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sam-bounces@irtf.org Hi, Quick question:=20 Are there any activities planned for the upcoming IETF in San Diego? Regards Nic -- Dipl. Inf. Nicolai Leymann =20 T-Systems Enterprise Services Senior Expert, IP-Technologies Systems Integration Technologiezentrum Engineering Networks, Products & Services=20 Packet based Carrier Transport Networks=20 Goslarer Ufer 35, D- 10589 Berlin=20 Tel +49 30 3497-3570=20 Fax +49 30 3497-3571=20 Mobile +49 170 2275345 E-Mail: nicolai.leymann@t-systems.com Internet: http://www.t-systems.com =20 =20 > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: John Buford [mailto:buford@research.panasonic.com]=20 > Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 00:00 > An: sam@irtf.org > Betreff: [SAM] Interim SAM RG Meeting Announcement Jan 11, 2007=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > The Scalable Adaptive Multicast (SAM) RG will > hold an interim meeting, co-located with the > Peer-to-Peer Multicasting Workshop (P2PM 07) > in Las Vegas on January 11, 2007. >=20 > P2PM 07 is hosted by IEEE Consumer Communications > and Networking Conference (CCNC) 2007 which will be=20 > held in Las Vegas, NV, USA January 11-13, 2007. > CCNC immediately follows the well-known Consumer > Electronics Show (CES).=20 >=20 > The final program for P2PM 07 is available at > http://www.samrg.org/p2pm07/program.html >=20 > Prof. Kevin Almeroth will give the P2PM 07 workshop=20 > keynote on=20 > "Multicast Help Wanted: From Where and How Much?". >=20 > The expected format of the SAM RG meeting will > be brief presentations on current IDs, followed > by a panel discussion on "Scalable Adaptive Multicast". > The expected scope of this panel will include=20 > discussion of the IDs and the SAM RG workplan. >=20 > Attendees to P2PM will be required to pay > a registration fee with IEEE CCNC. If you plan > to attend only the SAMRG meeting, please contact > the RG chairs directly about logistics. >=20 > John & Jeremy >=20 > _______________________________________________ > SAM mailing list > SAM@irtf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam >=20 _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@irtf.org Thu Nov 02 10:34:15 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfea3-00088D-86; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:34:11 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gfea2-000873-46 for sam@irtf.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:34:10 -0500 Received: from oak.research.panasonic.com ([150.169.1.4]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfeZy-0006Hg-Nv for sam@irtf.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:34:10 -0500 Received: from redwood.research.panasonic.com (redwood.research.panasonic.com [150.169.3.3]) by oak.research.panasonic.com (1.1.1/1.1.1) with ESMTP id kA2FYHC9002509; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:34:17 -0500 Received: from bufordw2 ([150.169.1.113]) by redwood.research.panasonic.com (MOS 3.7.4b-GA) with SMTP id ALQ19410; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:32:42 -0500 (EST) From: "John Buford" To: "Leymann, Nicolai" , Subject: RE: [SAM] Interim SAM RG Meeting Announcement Jan 11, 2007 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:34:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <1E4CCB2441C5C0409AD8A929482A09F3F94EE1@S4DE9JSAAIG.ost.t-com.de> X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/57, host=redwood.research.panasonic.com X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090207.454A0F8F.008F,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=150.169.1.113, so=2006-02-11 11:31:14, dmn=5.2.121/2006-09-27 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by oak.research.panasonic.com id kA2FYHC9002509 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 73734d43604d52d23b3eba644a169745 Cc: X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sam-bounces@irtf.org We have not scheduled an RG meeting at IETF 67 in San Diego. We plan to have an interim meeting in Las Vegas as previously announced, and a meeting at IETF 68 next March. John -----Original Message----- From: Leymann, Nicolai [mailto:Nicolai.Leymann@t-systems.com] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:29 AM To: buford@research.panasonic.com; sam@irtf.org Subject: RE: [SAM] Interim SAM RG Meeting Announcement Jan 11, 2007 Hi, Quick question: Are there any activities planned for the upcoming IETF in San Diego? Regards Nic -- Dipl. Inf. Nicolai Leymann T-Systems Enterprise Services Senior Expert, IP-Technologies Systems Integration Technologiezentrum Engineering Networks, Products & Services Packet based Carrier Transport Networks Goslarer Ufer 35, D- 10589 Berlin Tel +49 30 3497-3570 Fax +49 30 3497-3571 Mobile +49 170 2275345 E-Mail: nicolai.leymann@t-systems.com Internet: http://www.t-systems.com > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: John Buford [mailto:buford@research.panasonic.com] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 00:00 > An: sam@irtf.org > Betreff: [SAM] Interim SAM RG Meeting Announcement Jan 11, 2007 > > > > The Scalable Adaptive Multicast (SAM) RG will > hold an interim meeting, co-located with the > Peer-to-Peer Multicasting Workshop (P2PM 07) > in Las Vegas on January 11, 2007. > > P2PM 07 is hosted by IEEE Consumer Communications > and Networking Conference (CCNC) 2007 which will be > held in Las Vegas, NV, USA January 11-13, 2007. > CCNC immediately follows the well-known Consumer > Electronics Show (CES). > > The final program for P2PM 07 is available at > http://www.samrg.org/p2pm07/program.html > > Prof. Kevin Almeroth will give the P2PM 07 workshop > keynote on > "Multicast Help Wanted: From Where and How Much?". > > The expected format of the SAM RG meeting will > be brief presentations on current IDs, followed > by a panel discussion on "Scalable Adaptive Multicast". > The expected scope of this panel will include > discussion of the IDs and the SAM RG workplan. > > Attendees to P2PM will be required to pay > a registration fee with IEEE CCNC. If you plan > to attend only the SAMRG meeting, please contact > the RG chairs directly about logistics. > > John & Jeremy > > _______________________________________________ > SAM mailing list > SAM@irtf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam > _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@irtf.org Thu Nov 02 11:57:26 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gffs9-0001IS-QL; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:56:57 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gffs9-0001Fg-8Y for sam@irtf.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:56:57 -0500 Received: from lennon.multicasttech.com ([63.105.122.7] helo=multicasttech.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gffs5-0006bi-VE for sam@irtf.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:56:57 -0500 Received: from [63.105.122.7] (account marshall_eubanks HELO [IPv6:::1]) by multicasttech.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8) with ESMTP id 5453797; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:56:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5614AFC8-C759-4AF5-AC51-4893523F6FC3@multicasttech.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Marshall Eubanks Subject: Re: [SAM] Interim SAM RG Meeting Announcement Jan 11, 2007 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:56:13 -0500 To: "John Buford" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 287c806b254c6353fcb09ee0e53bbc5e Cc: sam@irtf.org, "Leymann, Nicolai" X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sam-bounces@irtf.org Hello; On Nov 2, 2006, at 10:34 AM, John Buford wrote: > > We have not scheduled an RG meeting at IETF 67 in San Diego. > We plan to have an interim meeting in Las Vegas as previously > announced, and a meeting at IETF 68 next March. > It is not clear to me why an "interim" meeting is needed if a regular =20= meeting is not. Will it be possible to attend the interim meeting without registering =20= for the CCNC meeting ? The P2PM 07 meeting ? If not, what are the registration fees for those meetings ? Regards Marshall Eubanks > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leymann, Nicolai [mailto:Nicolai.Leymann@t-systems.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:29 AM > To: buford@research.panasonic.com; sam@irtf.org > Subject: RE: [SAM] Interim SAM RG Meeting Announcement Jan 11, 2007 > > > Hi, > > Quick question: > > Are there any activities planned for the upcoming IETF in San Diego? > > Regards > > Nic > > -- > Dipl. Inf. Nicolai Leymann > > T-Systems Enterprise Services > Senior Expert, IP-Technologies > Systems Integration > Technologiezentrum > Engineering Networks, Products & Services > Packet based Carrier Transport Networks > Goslarer Ufer 35, D- 10589 Berlin > Tel +49 30 3497-3570 > Fax +49 30 3497-3571 > Mobile +49 170 2275345 > E-Mail: nicolai.leymann@t-systems.com > Internet: http://www.t-systems.com > > > >> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: John Buford [mailto:buford@research.panasonic.com] >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 00:00 >> An: sam@irtf.org >> Betreff: [SAM] Interim SAM RG Meeting Announcement Jan 11, 2007 >> >> >> >> The Scalable Adaptive Multicast (SAM) RG will >> hold an interim meeting, co-located with the >> Peer-to-Peer Multicasting Workshop (P2PM 07) >> in Las Vegas on January 11, 2007. >> >> P2PM 07 is hosted by IEEE Consumer Communications >> and Networking Conference (CCNC) 2007 which will be >> held in Las Vegas, NV, USA January 11-13, 2007. >> CCNC immediately follows the well-known Consumer >> Electronics Show (CES). >> >> The final program for P2PM 07 is available at >> http://www.samrg.org/p2pm07/program.html >> >> Prof. Kevin Almeroth will give the P2PM 07 workshop >> keynote on >> "Multicast Help Wanted: =46rom Where and How Much?". >> >> The expected format of the SAM RG meeting will >> be brief presentations on current IDs, followed >> by a panel discussion on "Scalable Adaptive Multicast". >> The expected scope of this panel will include >> discussion of the IDs and the SAM RG workplan. >> >> Attendees to P2PM will be required to pay >> a registration fee with IEEE CCNC. If you plan >> to attend only the SAMRG meeting, please contact >> the RG chairs directly about logistics. >> >> John & Jeremy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SAM mailing list >> SAM@irtf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SAM mailing list > SAM@irtf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@irtf.org Thu Nov 02 12:37:48 2006 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfgVc-0001pq-8z; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:37:44 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfgVb-0001pl-1e for sam@irtf.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:37:43 -0500 Received: from oak.research.panasonic.com ([150.169.1.4]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GfgVT-0002hc-8r for sam@irtf.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:37:43 -0500 Received: from redwood.research.panasonic.com (redwood.research.panasonic.com [150.169.3.3]) by oak.research.panasonic.com (1.1.1/1.1.1) with ESMTP id kA2HbdWM011652; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 12:37:39 -0500 Received: from bufordw2 ([150.169.1.113]) by redwood.research.panasonic.com (MOS 3.7.4b-GA) with SMTP id ALQ29960; Thu, 2 Nov 2006 12:36:03 -0500 (EST) From: "John Buford" To: "Marshall Eubanks" Subject: RE: [SAM] Interim SAM RG Meeting Announcement Jan 11, 2007 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 12:37:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <5614AFC8-C759-4AF5-AC51-4893523F6FC3@multicasttech.com> X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/57, host=redwood.research.panasonic.com X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090208.454A2C78.0146,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=150.169.1.113, so=2006-02-11 11:31:14, dmn=5.2.121/2006-09-27 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by oak.research.panasonic.com id kA2HbdWM011652 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 42e3ed3f10a1d8bef690f09da16f507a Cc: sam@irtf.org, "Leymann, Nicolai" X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sam-bounces@irtf.org Hi Marshall, Under the rules for RGs which I think are a bit more flexible than WGs, an RG may have its meeting outside of IETF if there is benefit. I think a number of RGs do this to connect with the wider research community that is not typically participating in IETF meetings. Of course we want IETF participation as well, so we are aiming at 1 to 2 IETF meetings per year, which I think is the norm for RGs. We announced our plan to have this interim meeting at the IETF 66 meeting of the RG. Regarding the specific interim meeting on Jan 11, we organized a workshop at a networking conference to get researcher feedback on the SAM work. As a result, Prof. Kevin Almeroth has graciously agreed to provide a keynote on topics related to SAM, and a number of researchers have agreed to participate in panel discussions about SAM work. Anyone who wants to attend the Jan 11 meeting in Las Vegas who is not planning on registering for CCNC or P2PM should contact me. CCNC registration fee for full ComSoc member by Dec 8 is $660. There is a one-day rate of $482. See here for other registration categories and fees: http://www.ieee-ccnc.org/registration/registration.html Regards, John -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:tme@multicasttech.com] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:56 AM To: John Buford Cc: Leymann, Nicolai; sam@irtf.org Subject: Re: [SAM] Interim SAM RG Meeting Announcement Jan 11, 2007 Hello; On Nov 2, 2006, at 10:34 AM, John Buford wrote: > > We have not scheduled an RG meeting at IETF 67 in San Diego. > We plan to have an interim meeting in Las Vegas as previously > announced, and a meeting at IETF 68 next March. > It is not clear to me why an "interim" meeting is needed if a regular meeting is not. Will it be possible to attend the interim meeting without registering for the CCNC meeting ? The P2PM 07 meeting ? If not, what are the registration fees for those meetings ? Regards Marshall Eubanks > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leymann, Nicolai [mailto:Nicolai.Leymann@t-systems.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:29 AM > To: buford@research.panasonic.com; sam@irtf.org > Subject: RE: [SAM] Interim SAM RG Meeting Announcement Jan 11, 2007 > > > Hi, > > Quick question: > > Are there any activities planned for the upcoming IETF in San Diego? > > Regards > > Nic > > -- > Dipl. Inf. Nicolai Leymann > > T-Systems Enterprise Services > Senior Expert, IP-Technologies > Systems Integration > Technologiezentrum > Engineering Networks, Products & Services > Packet based Carrier Transport Networks > Goslarer Ufer 35, D- 10589 Berlin > Tel +49 30 3497-3570 > Fax +49 30 3497-3571 > Mobile +49 170 2275345 > E-Mail: nicolai.leymann@t-systems.com > Internet: http://www.t-systems.com > > > >> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: John Buford [mailto:buford@research.panasonic.com] >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 00:00 >> An: sam@irtf.org >> Betreff: [SAM] Interim SAM RG Meeting Announcement Jan 11, 2007 >> >> >> >> The Scalable Adaptive Multicast (SAM) RG will >> hold an interim meeting, co-located with the >> Peer-to-Peer Multicasting Workshop (P2PM 07) >> in Las Vegas on January 11, 2007. >> >> P2PM 07 is hosted by IEEE Consumer Communications >> and Networking Conference (CCNC) 2007 which will be >> held in Las Vegas, NV, USA January 11-13, 2007. >> CCNC immediately follows the well-known Consumer >> Electronics Show (CES). >> >> The final program for P2PM 07 is available at >> http://www.samrg.org/p2pm07/program.html >> >> Prof. Kevin Almeroth will give the P2PM 07 workshop >> keynote on >> "Multicast Help Wanted: From Where and How Much?". >> >> The expected format of the SAM RG meeting will >> be brief presentations on current IDs, followed >> by a panel discussion on "Scalable Adaptive Multicast". >> The expected scope of this panel will include >> discussion of the IDs and the SAM RG workplan. >> >> Attendees to P2PM will be required to pay >> a registration fee with IEEE CCNC. If you plan >> to attend only the SAMRG meeting, please contact >> the RG chairs directly about logistics. >> >> John & Jeremy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SAM mailing list >> SAM@irtf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SAM mailing list > SAM@irtf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam