From sam-bounces@irtf.org Fri Aug 17 05:14:37 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ILxue-0002us-Kz; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:14:36 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ILxud-0002un-BA for sam@irtf.org; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:14:35 -0400 Received: from smtp.mei.co.jp ([133.183.129.25]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ILxub-0006EW-Mk for sam@irtf.org; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:14:35 -0400 Received: from mail-gw.jp.panasonic.com (dodgers.mei.co.jp [157.8.1.150]) by smtp.mei.co.jp (8.12.11.20060614/3.7W/kings) with ESMTP id l7H9EWO3003310 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:14:32 +0900 (JST) Received: by mail-gw.jp.panasonic.com (8.11.6p2/3.7W/somlx2) with ESMTP id l7H9EW907988 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:14:32 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.jp.panasonic.com (8.11.6p2/3.7W/mariners) with SMTP id l7H9EXN14729 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:14:33 +0900 (JST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:14:25 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <769E965D82021346949AF2BC41D8EAB71FB2DD@prdcm-mail.prdcm.panasonic.com.my> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: SAMTK @irtf69 Thread-Index: AcfgrwCetYQsXoPXTu+EM0jwX4tOWg== From: "Lim Boon Ping" To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 155726d2f5fe5eb5c40a9f079fd9e841 Subject: [SAM] SAMTK @irtf69 X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0525166229==" Errors-To: sam-bounces@irtf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0525166229== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7E0AF.01BA002F" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7E0AF.01BA002F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, =20 We have recently explored into SAM-RG activities through the mailing = list and meeting materials, and are keen to understand more on SAM-RG latest = technical priority and research focus.=20 =20 We are particularly interested to understand more on SAMTK by Mr. = Kawaguchi, specifically on SAMTK integration with Topology Management module. I have read the presentation material in http://samrg.org/about/meetings/ietf69/SAMTK-kawaguchi-ierf69.ppt, and = would hope if Mr. Kawaguchi or the RG members could clarify some of the = questions. =20 What the scope of Topology management is as indicated in Slide 6? How do = you envision ALM/OM/hybrid protocols (given as a Plugin) seamlessly = integrating with SAMTK's Group Membership/Traffic management module? There are a few dynamic topology management protocol discussed in the previous meetings, = such as Dynamic Mesh-based overlay multicast protocol (DMMP) and Hybrid = Shared Tree, could these protocol/mechanism easily being integrated/ported into SAMTK? What're the standard input/output parameters would be provided by SAMTK to/from the topology management plugin?=20 =20 Quite a number SAM applications have been developed using SAMTK, is = there any plan to integrate dynamic topology management plugin (eg. dynamic ALM topology construction/update/route convergence), and perform experiment = trial on PlanetLab (or others large scale research test bed)?=20 =20 This work seems to be a good effort to spearhead a Standard Framework = for rapid SAM application development/deployment. How is this effort being envisioned by other members in the RG?=20 =20 Hope to hear your thought on this soon!=20 =20 =20 Yours truly, Boon Ping Panasonic Kuala Lumpur Lab =20 =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7E0AF.01BA002F Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

We have recently explored into SAM-RG = activities through the mailing list and meeting materials, and are keen to = understand more on SAM-RG latest technical priority and research focus. =

 

We are particularly interested to understand = more on SAMTK by Mr. Kawaguchi, specifically on SAMTK integration with Topology Management module.

I have read the presentation material in http://samrg.org/about/meetings/ietf69/SAMTK-kawaguchi-ierf69.ppt,= and would hope if Mr. Kawaguchi or the RG members could clarify some of = the questions.

 
What the =
scope of Topology management is as indicated in Slide 6? How do you =
envision ALM/OM/hybrid protocols (given as a Plugin) seamlessly =
integrating with SAMTK’s Group Membership/Traffic management =
module? There are a few dynamic topology management protocol discussed =
in the previous meetings, such as Dynamic Mesh-based overlay multicast =
protocol (DMMP) and Hybrid Shared Tree, could these protocol/mechanism =
easily being integrated/ported into SAMTK? What’re the standard =
input/output parameters would be provided by SAMTK to/from the topology =
management plugin? 
 
Quite a =
number SAM applications have been developed using SAMTK, is there any =
plan to integrate dynamic topology management plugin (eg. dynamic ALM =
topology construction/update/route convergence), and perform experiment =
trial on PlanetLab (or others large scale research test bed)? =

 
This work =
seems to be a good effort to spearhead a Standard Framework for rapid =
SAM application development/deployment. How is this effort being =
envisioned by other members in the RG? =

 

Hope to hear your = thought on this soon! 

 

 

Yours truly,

Boon Ping

Panasonic Kuala Lumpur = Lab

 

 

 

 

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We are currently under alpha-development phase. However, most of development efforts of SAMTK are held for protocol abstraction and group-management. So topology management is not currently implemented. (It is open for plug-in developers) However, current plug-in interface is very simple. If you have any comments, please let me know. (Below is a part of current plug-in interface implementation ) --- qint64 writeDatagram ( const char * data, qint64 size, SAMGroupAddress *g=NULL); bool start(ushort selfport); qint64 readDatagram ( char * data, qint64 maxSize, QHostAddress *address=0, quint16 *port = 0); bool hasPendingDatagrams () const; qint64 pendingDatagramSize (); void close(); bool setGroup(SAMGroupAddress *group); bool addMember(const SAMGroupMember &member); bool deleteMember(const SAMGroupMember &member); --- SAMGroupAddress is a class for group of node addresses obtained from group management module. Most of interface design is derived from Qt QUDPSocket. I'm not sure it is enough to implement other ALM/OM protocols. However, we are willing to support plug-in development on SAMTK. yours, Nobuo Kawaguchi Lim Boon Ping wrote: > Hi all, > > > > We have recently explored into SAM-RG activities through the mailing list and > meeting materials, and are keen to understand more on SAM-RG latest technical > priority and research focus. > > > > We are particularly interested to understand more on SAMTK by Mr. Kawaguchi, > specifically on SAMTK integration with Topology Management module. > > I have read the presentation material in > http://samrg.org/about/meetings/ietf69/SAMTK-kawaguchi-ierf69.ppt, and would > hope if Mr. Kawaguchi or the RG members could clarify some of the questions. > > > What the scope of Topology management is as indicated in Slide 6? How do you > envision ALM/OM/hybrid protocols (given as a Plugin) seamlessly integrating > with SAMTK's Group Membership/Traffic management module? There are a few > dynamic topology management protocol discussed in the previous meetings, such > as Dynamic Mesh-based overlay multicast protocol (DMMP) and Hybrid Shared > Tree, could these protocol/mechanism easily being integrated/ported into > SAMTK? What're the standard input/output parameters would be provided by > SAMTK to/from the topology management plugin? > > Quite a number SAM applications have been developed using SAMTK, is there any > plan to integrate dynamic topology management plugin (eg. dynamic ALM > topology construction/update/route convergence), and perform experiment trial > on PlanetLab (or others large scale research test bed)? > > This work seems to be a good effort to spearhead a Standard Framework for > rapid SAM application development/deployment. How is this effort being > envisioned by other members in the RG? > > > Hope to hear your thought on this soon! > > > > > > Yours truly, > > Boon Ping > > Panasonic Kuala Lumpur Lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > SAM mailing list > SAM@irtf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam