From sam-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 13 07:50:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB74428C804; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:50:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.247 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.247 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.432, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rLI9tdFD0vA3; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1471E28C724; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:49:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D4328C845 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:49:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BelPI8uVCHZC for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81D128C87B for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b2so792096ana.20 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:45:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=fB+iRsJrKxm39+ornT18xKvlESlI5Gl1Y2sEZtbpBaE=; b=ccUnvR9QwhaJNGJZB0W8sAolsPnUuQYAVHe0I3A1Awl7txzIqKnz89ByxcJx2MC53yYr6JOtN82YqhXMsF9b7vfc56+KfAP7LJbiaNOXB1qBv5PNuOatrmqyfP7SU197KG2EETQsk3k0dzbtMBvIA+QswsrdrzZCMj8xp7RGm2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=B856dCANsq2iAd0wy6x4n2/M3lI5F0lZKOdbcOoHX40eXftNED7E8FISEBjg860zD9J/3s7qgvYZgVCA58dEWtnaOoD7m8rmf2wogU4eKGeRkgicPt0LiDlfKX/Hy6kxHjFW9Sklj0rRaNtAeQrMFClXhiOeg2u/poyxrGICPpQ= Received: by 10.100.208.6 with SMTP id f6mr1788873ang.13.1205419549679; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.93.9 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ce32a820803130745r754647aeje95df5ca62a20a5c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:45:49 -0400 From: "John Buford" To: sam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2f4ae7aebd32188e Subject: [SAM] Meeting materials for IETF 71 X-BeenThere: sam@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: buford@samrg.org List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sam-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@ietf.org The meeting materials are available via the datatracker https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/71/materials.html and also on the SAM website http://www.samrg.org/about/meetings/ietf71/ We are still preparing meeting minutes. I apologize that we ran out of time during the meeting and were not able to cover the last agenda item on XCAST v2 by Yuji Imai. John _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 13 07:58:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1E03A6E69; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:58:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.22 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.22 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.405, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5LERVk-M8spt; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85D43A6B78; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:58:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3973A6BAA for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:58:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bh9AIVguQI2r for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63BB3A6E77 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b2so793143ana.20 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:56:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=/ZL/n3WDpPfKz0aMwiy3NkZv87bqKIUibDr9nwdK4p8=; b=TiafoXoczNB//WOroZpst+g97OTiQ64NlqD9yWwlGYlOryj6X5dyQwtFEFbIkJswyjsviepF4Wqvqy/LRDrJG1gT16+ONgsOG+Ox3FE1S7RV+1Xyxngcd5l1WKQR4ZgWSZD/DboGsJA+VpQXk+uzFWiwGwlyOTbUKXPVfQEguKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=GdE697OYWeemPHb4ZCXLDCIW0qHcxtM/EDfD4aSMgq4yiKLLMPoaxGhJo3GPKtjdQeps798Y5zNJxjbWdSzgEHhCXYw+2k5dwalHFrff50l8Lv49I0wXRVLA78DL5OzQksHta34hm+Loue/3rkd+hgbiKpePXT1CQiUptP0AuKI= Received: by 10.100.48.16 with SMTP id v16mr19861749anv.67.1205420162943; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.93.9 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ce32a820803130756s7c126974ia401ab2cbc566da@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:56:02 -0400 From: "John Buford" To: sam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 38906aae188b1fe8 Subject: [SAM] meeting plan X-BeenThere: sam@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: buford@samrg.org List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sam-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@ietf.org We are proposing two interim RG meetings to be organized in conjunction with special sessions at the following conferences for participants who are interested in publishing papers on their SAM research in these venues. 1) Concurrent with Special Session on P2P Overlays at IEEE MILCOM in San Diego Nov 17-19, 2008 (this CFP has already been posted to the SAM mailing list) Note that this date coincides with IETF 72, so would be primarily aimed at those who are in the MILCOM community and don't regularly attend IETF meetings. 2) Concurrent with Special Session on SAM at IEEE CCNC in Las Vegas, Jan 11-13, 2009. This is the same venue where we held an interim meeting in January 2007 as part of the P2P Multicast Workshop. (This CFP is being prepared and will be posted later). The next regular IETF meeting is planned for IETF 74. If anyone is interested in having a SAM RG session at IETF 72 or IETF 73, please contact the chairs or post to the mailing list. If you have suggestions for other venues for interim meetings, let's discuss that as well. John and Jeremy _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 13 11:38:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1895C28C1AB; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:38:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.085 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.085 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.270, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u+3ne+voDadK; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309BC28C1CC; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:38:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AC028C1CC for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:38:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W+J+SfsU6m2a for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F75A3A6873 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b2so813976ana.20 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:35:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=MNg7xdRIEzBP6rqodBFxIGKN0p+o6tDbc4SdgEx26d4=; b=Xxj0cU3RnPGxv4AXTP91zpm58zXP446N3OL0PxlIyANxqbCB5iKUlmjFD/Io8a/TFQgKBhyjyd4jAKQIOxqpmFSYMSbvcmApz4SeRdtd4lQZ1NzP3U0wRNvdglNzcSgRaucZgQdmrn7mK0XI4TeS7E99uTGyPTDdXai4yFVKqxg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=MJ/KR06FT/6Y69f8iqzh/jiqEwBSJMlz/YK8nP/fo9LqFoDybWQEhH+CsGvd2QBstPdayMj0tP8dzTA06IPMLwKrCA4w8ks0rtT+r/tZm03r9sCRgh8L6KPN07nawVgTA+DSpS6BiHJotfp7QdiDQhKljkGi4YSOAToxjeiYTIU= Received: by 10.100.165.13 with SMTP id n13mr20136117ane.116.1205433351212; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.93.9 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ce32a820803131135x410b35iab79a948a21e104d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:35:51 -0400 From: "John Buford" To: sam In-Reply-To: <4ce32a820803131103q3bc47577r368a3eda1e1386ec@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4ce32a820803131103q3bc47577r368a3eda1e1386ec@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b4a9a7e4d615f0c0 Subject: [SAM] Fwd: extension mechanism for P2PP X-BeenThere: sam@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: buford@samrg.org List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sam-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@ietf.org Posted to the P2P-SIP WG mail list. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: John Buford Date: Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:03 PM Subject: extension mechanism for P2PP To: p2psip@ietf.org Cc: John Buford The Scalable Adaptive Multicast RG is working on hybrid application layer multicast protocols. We would like to use P2PP as a substrate. To support our experimentation without interfering with other implementations, we propose that P2PP (or its future instantiation in Reload) provide an experimental extension mechanism, such as: 1) a new message be added to the 18 existing message types: P2PP-Msg = ... | Experimental with some language that peers should quietly ignore experimental messages that they don't recognize. 2) the experimental message Experimental = Common-header Peer-Info Certificate-Sign-Request Password Extension-Name Extension-Body Extension-Name = SAM | ... Extension-Body = extension-specific The SAM overlay protocol is defined in draft-buford-irtf-sam-overlay-protocol-00.txt and defines the above extension mechanism. John _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 13 18:45:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7FD28C0FE; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:45:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.087, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UbwBwjII0Kfk; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2283A6908; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:45:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219603A688A for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:45:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id trMM8Cwx92Ao for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mei.co.jp (smtp.mei.co.jp [133.183.100.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4973A682B for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw.jp.panasonic.com ([157.8.1.145]) by smtp.mei.co.jp (8.12.11.20060614/3.7W/kc-maile11) with ESMTP id m2E1gfeV004941; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:42:41 +0900 (JST) Received: by mail-gw.jp.panasonic.com (8.11.6p2/3.7W/somlb3) with ESMTP id m2E1gfl20792; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:42:41 +0900 (JST) Received: from epochmail.jp.panasonic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.jp.panasonic.com (8.11.6p2/3.7W/kc-maili06) with ESMTP id m2E1gfn07443; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:42:41 +0900 (JST) Received: by epochmail.jp.panasonic.com (8.12.11.20060308/3.7W/somla4) id m2E1gfeK022042; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:42:41 +0900 (JST) Received: from donau.mrit.mei.co.jp by somla4.jp.panasonic.com (8.12.11.20060308/3.7W) with ESMTP id m2E1gepc022006; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:42:40 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:42:42 +0900 From: Eiichi Muramoto To: buford@samrg.org In-Reply-To: <4ce32a820802270718v23030bdewf2093a2167d2f58a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ce32a820802270718v23030bdewf2093a2167d2f58a@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <20080314103107.18AA.MURAMOTO.EIICHI@jp.panasonic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.27 [ja] Cc: sam Subject: Re: [SAM] draft-irtf-sam-hybrid-overlay-framework-02.txt available X-BeenThere: sam@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sam-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@ietf.org John-san May I ask several questions? What is the concrete example of the gourpID? - for ASM case - for SSM case Does the framework include the mechanism to prevent the loop? - case, 2 separate Native MCast connect with multiple AMT RLYs -- ASM case -- SSM case Best Regards, Eiichi Muramoto On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:18:31 -0500 "John Buford" wrote: > An updated version of the Hybrid Overlay Framework is available. > > draft-irtf-sam-hybrid-overlay-framework-02.txt > > John > _______________________________________________ > SAM mailing list > SAM@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam -- Eiichi Muramoto _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 13 20:36:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262D53A6D71; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:36:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.669 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.669 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.653, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XeKmfevifm9g; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546E13A68B4; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:36:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEB53A68B4 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:35:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1eXBq3pNAxlb for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BAE3A67EA for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b2so857889ana.20 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:33:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=P/NBLaiW/mGtGQVKLeaCyk8TTO0miP65GvnE2E1b4CY=; b=X+KRp6bfb4ahyLjHMOW767/abRLcHKsThNazL4hNHwyM+rRe+znbGb8Z4UtwLlQrupYCX5yAbe26HpVlj40yfH5CZyPAxI0wK+Tsxm+E3rWTMPRClHFKDi6dACm3HpgotKPcAVxIX/Y8W3qUFlcE93xakqWuGOgGhgAvy/Kkpbs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=LlBDIds7icPrzqjtNfUAJ2pKTRH9fUA9cBCPZOqVoP8wilgjI7xDVxFyfSwlXkbbagtvqg/iOh+Tlk7cuf1w1JqiBwINGnPHYdsrD8ANjsg/3zoxOZRE2lw932+VsDslUmODM00Y/J5ySsIdfLHP82UxdCgrrU1fPUi/SIN//GI= Received: by 10.100.195.15 with SMTP id s15mr21583619anf.17.1205465620481; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.93.9 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ce32a820803132033vc14f5f9kc3f2a824d0fb82b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:33:40 -0400 From: "John Buford" To: "Eiichi Muramoto" In-Reply-To: <20080314103107.18AA.MURAMOTO.EIICHI@jp.panasonic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4ce32a820802270718v23030bdewf2093a2167d2f58a@mail.gmail.com> <20080314103107.18AA.MURAMOTO.EIICHI@jp.panasonic.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ac563c4014ea185c Cc: sam Subject: Re: [SAM] draft-irtf-sam-hybrid-overlay-framework-02.txt available X-BeenThere: sam@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: buford@samrg.org List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sam-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@ietf.org On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Eiichi Muramoto wrote: > John-san > > May I ask several questions? > > What is the concrete example of the gourpID? > - for ASM case > - for SSM case Muramoto-san, groupID is an id recognized in the overlay routing, generated using the hash algorithm of the overlay. this is the same algorithm used to hash object ids for DHT put and get operations. the overlay does key-based routing using these ids. this method has high probability of producing unique keys. I don't think ASM or SSM have a group id. however an ASM session has a multicast address, and an SSM session has a (S,G) pair corresponding to source IP address S and SSM destination address G. So the idea in the framework is to create an association between the groupID which represents the ALM tree and the multicast address used in the native layer for the same session. it is easy to store the mapping in the DHT for any peer to lookup. > > Does the framework include the mechanism to prevent the loop? > - case, 2 separate Native MCast connect with multiple AMT RLYs > -- ASM case > -- SSM case there is no loop detection/prevention in the draft currently. should we add it? is loop detection algorithm dependent? The framework is algorithm agnostic. if someone adds their algorithm X to the framework, could the include loop detection for algorithm X? or is there a general solution that works for all tree/mesh formation and data delivery algorithms? Personally I don't think there is a single general solution, so it is better to let specific algorithm deal with it. a loop at the native and/or AMT layer is a different matter. I haven't thought about it, perhaps others on the list can comment. Best regards, John > > Best Regards, > Eiichi Muramoto > > > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:18:31 -0500 > "John Buford" wrote: > > > An updated version of the Hybrid Overlay Framework is available. > > > > draft-irtf-sam-hybrid-overlay-framework-02.txt > > > > John > > _______________________________________________ > > SAM mailing list > > SAM@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam > > -- > Eiichi Muramoto > > _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 14 06:21:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6590928C932; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:21:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.556 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.556 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.540, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DFr-3TuX09M3; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABAB28C92B; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:21:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C20928C8FD for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:21:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 51etmDzmiDv4 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ag-out-0708.google.com (ag-out-0708.google.com [72.14.246.243]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C8028C8B5 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ag-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 35so5937874aga.11 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:19:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=nEuF6gn6oQFdIPcRknVj3O8tltLQEQIJVfZgO40iRKE=; b=li/B3+4joYN0Kdy6gc/oXdP+g4jQ21JEEv5WxsHsl1oW2LfrGliEKnhu/uXprJMk6sFR1PVMVxtJg9xWW+KgGacRpfg10B64fpMF6/OxNAnfHCJnXVSg+IoZuaXtopvld3SSvRNtQW4y9ZGxAGfGwbVv1wZQJeHm3vIZrL1EWTY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=cPwsZjPF63k+LWKq0oQK+8SQFfcGggDU5z8xbnPefPAfdbdc6pZn30HnJB2MGOUgLrADwFeBO7IXn0reOWM1U2C8kyu11gFu6a4T4nWFtaX2PInS2I76/sbZDCAD1nftdCr5nMxakcKQjPmCKv1eSgP8k+Yjuh1l/KLszoUZD+Q= Received: by 10.100.43.13 with SMTP id q13mr22876958anq.18.1205500746981; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.93.9 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ce32a820803140619i6773feb0kbe0a800c50196ef5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:19:06 -0400 From: "John Buford" To: sam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 23a176d65db3140a Subject: [SAM] draft-buford-irtf-sam-overlay-protocol-01 is available X-BeenThere: sam@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: buford@samrg.org List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sam-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@ietf.org draft-buford-irtf-sam-overlay-protocol-01 is available This draft adds the joinViaNativeLink message as described in the meeting this week. John _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 17 12:19:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909E53A6E5C; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:19:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.092 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.092 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.076, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0LgIZ4RwXhhk; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918CC3A6F31; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:19:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1CA3A6E72 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:19:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qBnqUa5rZ7BG for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890A23A6EF6 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c16so1454322ana.7 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:15:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=pJYlfI3rvf6N4+pZgfwXXh9hmWNhOOfGhKnvVyj6p7U=; b=dwJMPXGrjNI+DT1oAivq6sMsV0yxm+Msh4ZiKP5uWzUiMM/H80GL/tZsJH3Cex70zqUvizUHGBXzqkuyn0Rn9sU3xJ1hDNi1jRLAxohj91Tmy+V8dnjLCTAEFuPJgKIYw9hZ/5nNinduY+y2DNiqnE3KYxd9yXrenSCtyVZZRHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=PKY/DcPMw96fuaB1wYoSFVc9kN4RzOLhqc3hhgoCGjzhG4shdsE15vUCMTWqHD0Mo7VRPHWnaYSaVA07C/OZ00WO38ySg0yWPNVnAGTzWRIvibijBLz681Fj+slBV+P6Ki2/Z3rZ8cKVljbcUAYt0iq4WDS6FmnLJgRr0djnp9Y= Received: by 10.101.70.5 with SMTP id x5mr507203ank.65.1205781348440; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.93.9 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ce32a820803171215s1d4f0cc4wbcd29521bf3b8bba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:15:48 -0400 From: "John Buford" To: sam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 69ff431f94b4c9ae Subject: [SAM] draft-irtf-sam-problem-statement-02.txt X-BeenThere: sam@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: buford@samrg.org List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sam-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@ietf.org Due to requests at the last meeting, the SAM problem statement draft has been re-published as: draft-irtf-sam-problem-statement-02.txt We are working on re-publishing the requirements draft and a notification will be sent to the RG mail list when it is available. John _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 21 10:01:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2C13A684F; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:01:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.822 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.822 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OjZgDJU8D3iF; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5CF3A6CB8; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:01:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661F33A68B6 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:01:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b6Cc7X8PoP3l for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.242]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CCE3A684F for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b2so333098ana.20 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:59:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=Klkpt1cRlbIJkslEMGEf0YNrJSti35VdzGqwkLbNayM=; b=IxfQeds80XyA6igR1bTGw8nszFX3RHLYP53IY0bRXZBeHCsIq9KaF0gZJj1E1+6KxoBaLLFX9Dlt0hBsbDE/DLMiIgafCH9biSWQXNW/DBEvdqTnnxD/QEr9gQjcdGfS/soKvodD2br7HV6+/KVC9bm/aBq5vRNWAV9wcoo/ia4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=Y89qL0rgC1S816nxv0fItvApPO6LT9lwwZr069EnHsiIDpdKQmFdgEg/Kw0cbg0et0Zdp9suSMhMJaUNUn81/UO7xCKR+K2RxSxjNQYa0TElO8CC3qntRtNgAKkBITgSKvJXJ9dPHQU7DT44t+UGan3/RfoLEewwAJEYzsBdER8= Received: by 10.101.69.10 with SMTP id w10mr9431796ank.68.1206118752894; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.93.9 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ce32a820803210959j690f6809te2e9724363c43c3d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:59:12 -0400 From: "John Buford" To: sam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: b01b10eb5cfebe3a Subject: [SAM] interim SAM RG meeting at IEEE CCNC 2009 Jan 11-12 X-BeenThere: sam@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: buford@samrg.org List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sam-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@ietf.org We are planning to hold an interim SAM RG meeting at IEEE CCNC 2009 Jan 11-12 in Las Vegas, which immediately follows the Consumer Electronics Show. The exact date (Jan 11 or 12) will be determined in the fall and will be coordinated with a special session on Scalable Adaptive Multicast in P2P Overlays we are organizing there. Papers related to the SAM RG work are solicited for this special session and will be published in the IEEE CCNC conference proceedings. More information can be found at: http://cms.comsoc.org/eprise/main/SiteGen/CCNC_2009/Content/Home/call_for_papers/Scalable_Adaptive_Multicast_in_P2P_Overlays.html John _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 21 10:40:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E773A6DBE; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:40:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.927 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.927 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.112, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x7S9Trg041TO; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD253A6A5D; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:40:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DD43A6B59 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:40:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GaeIqAsKIpjx for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039683A6A5D for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b2so336154ana.20 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:38:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=UWaH5pFTtgM6HZ4RKvKdbt1zM6xXwTTv39ETK+p6z90=; b=ETN+5n95exyC5qqiT9oMHtBbV7GJhs9MINYGQwxUjV13+ezSMS+Cdyp+XOuDMGla5Rh1xLcH29aJqkHCEJ75GIkgwGuRQelupCCZbNE3E02U2bwA/hWd/XWyRKBTI4eOuNfa3b9eZdTnEiL3cVZTT3TOUPQWWzLWec4MryQ63lA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=lCXsezNd+tLcmUZWuIL3gUWtIOBNOBVvDuQrdCuqJmgbeqH2kYalkHTZAa+vHX0tSjdim4CFY7jhUGj82xQGF8gAmFRvqeNz3vx+PeYHpstMhlNT+erOF94/q8NL4D7APAdMnAZPZKXaBEBksnxDQjq8ZJcmBCLQmPfJZ7dPggg= Received: by 10.100.252.17 with SMTP id z17mr9452978anh.79.1206121083832; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.93.9 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ce32a820803211038nbb4eac1m5e872ccb067e8caf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:38:03 -0400 From: "John Buford" To: sam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: ec1165bdc0d8c945 Subject: [SAM] CFP - Scalable Adaptive Multicast on P2P Overlays--special session at IEEE CCNC 2009 X-BeenThere: sam@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: buford@samrg.org List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sam-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@ietf.org [This special session is being coordinated with an interim meeting of the IRTF SAM RG at IEEE CCNC 2009. Researchers involved in IRTF SAM RG topics (www.samrg.org) shoud consider submitting a paper for publication in the special session.] CALL FOR PAPERS =============== Special Session on Scalable Adaptive Multicast in P2P Overlays at IEEE Consumer Comunications and Networking Conference www.ieee-ccnc.org IEEE CCNC 2009 Jan 11-13 Las Vegas The emergence of peer-to-peer networking enables new applications that require efficient multicast communication. These applications include peercasting of multimedia streams, multi-party conferencing, multi-player games, and group chat. Many consumer applications of multicasting involve small groups of users, content streaming, mobility, hybrid transport and other requirements not considered in previous systems. Due to delayed deployment of native multicast, various end-system, application layer (ALM) and overlay multicast (OM) designs have been proposed. In the future, these protocols are expected to coexist and integrate with native IP multicast protocols while offering more flexible deployment options and scaling to support a greater number of simultaneous multicast groups. In addition these protocols need to adapt to device capabilities and mobility. The goal of this special session is to provide a forum for engineers, architects, and researchers to share knowledge and innovation in hybrid and adaptive P2P multicast techniques. We solicit papers covering various topics of interest that include (but are not limited to) the following: Peer-to-peer overlays with multicast support Small group multicast Application Layer Multicast (ALM) techniques Hybrid multicasting architectures Comparitive analysis of ALM and OM architectures Scalable integration of QoS mechanisms Adaptive content distribution over P2P overlay multicast Methods for large-scale group formation and discovery Support for highly dynamic group membership Support for mobility in P2P overlay multicast All accepted submissions will be published in the proceedings of IEEE CCNC 2009. More information about the special session is available at http://cms.comsoc.org/eprise/main/SiteGen/CCNC_2009/Content/ Home/call_for_papers/Scalable_Adaptive_Multicast_in_P2P_Overlays.html Submission Instructions The deadline for paper submissions in EDAS is July 31, 2009. Submission details can be found under Author Information on the CCNC web site. Session Organizers John Buford, Avaya Labs Research, USA Qi He, Yahoo, USA Eng Keong Lua, NTT Laboratories, Japan _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 26 14:11:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E7028C795; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:11:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.976 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.976 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.161, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DWirvk2Dhx-8; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E203A6F89; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:11:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512C43A6F81 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:11:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t39covazw3-U for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56ED28C6E4 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b2so33114ana.20 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:08:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=O23u0z/7YOrIR3RGGBxtcSfxUi2fTLgmNU/EPQ1N8/s=; b=R63ASFiGws1QKz6lVt4RmjD8F85LTsAVVjpHGyjU8QVS7Y/6TzVEwQHgwqcOusjS1zorlIeT1PGjEZ6qN7+LCRUbnNZcJgN9R+Hs6aaurjUiXI/ii7495hCZfRcY5TKP68+DvO/PatnApwd3BwSP707oMKUNnG9NQP6xtyFaP4Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=WGeEyLS47qcbIK/Xx95ztQ0SX4RD7poTbsZn0gY/jzwcPfwSo6FqAZgfyeJuD5OSJMWZ/AWyFuKqGTqVUNUGopLiqV43f+Q5TM78P+/h4J7ijWlEwIertP9JCrePDUWaxrnzaHoBG6Tn/gzjfmxd0JTc3kO4/6f3/3ZcFNFPidQ= Received: by 10.100.122.8 with SMTP id u8mr1009874anc.103.1206565731924; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.93.9 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ce32a820803261408s6929bd81na193319d17f74c49@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:08:51 -0400 From: "John Buford" To: sam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_4607_3860441.1206565731933" X-Google-Sender-Auth: ea64774216dfc29d Subject: [SAM] Call for Book Chapters - Handbook of Peer-to-Peer Networking X-BeenThere: sam@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: buford@samrg.org List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: sam-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@ietf.org ------=_Part_4607_3860441.1206565731933 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Call for Book Chapters Title: Handbook of Peer-to-Peer Networking Book Editors: Xuemin (Sherman) Shen, Heather Yu, John Buford, and Mursalin Akon Publisher: Springer Introduction The Peer-to-peer (P2P) computing model has already been established as an important model for distributed computing. In this computing model an extremely large number of users collaborate and share their resources. The traditional central server oriented service distribution employs either client-server or push models. However, this kind of services is neither robust nor scalable, as well as suffers from a single point of failure. In contrast, the P2P computing model is characterized by collaboration among peers, decentralized service points, self-organization, autonomy, and heterogeneity. This emerging model for service distribution has attracted a great attention from both academia and industry. The introductions of early P2P applications - Napster, Gnutella, KaZaA and BitTorrent - were followed by a tremendous success among the user communities. The initial success was followed by other more interesting and complex applications, such as in information store and retrieval, teleconference, and audio-video streaming. Concurrently, research communities are excited by the potential future growth of the model. This book focuses on the fundamentals of peer-to-peer computing model, networks and applications along with a comprehensive study of recent advancements. In addition, discussions on crucial design choices, open problems, possible solution strategies will be of great interest. The topics of interest include, but are not limited to, the following: * Introduction to peer-to-peer computing * Structured P2P Network Architectures * Unstructured P2P Network Architectures * Search and Replications, Queries and Pattern Matching * Incentive Mechanisms * Trust and Reputation Management in P2P Networks * Broadcast or Multicast Services * QoS in P2P Networks * Multimedia Streaming * Availability of Shared Objects * Service Oriented Architectures (SOA) using P2P Networks * Sharing non-Storage Computing Resources * High Performance Computing with P2P * Network and Locality Aware P2P Networks and Applications * P2P Databases * High Volume Data Transmission in P2P Networks * Mobile P2P * Security in P2P Networks * Anonymity in P2P Networks * Fault Tolerance in P2P Networks * Business Models and Applications in P2P * P2P Traffic Characteristics * Analytic Modeling of P2P Networks * Social Networking using P2P Networks * P2P Applications and Future Trends * Real Life P2P System Development and Deployment Experiences * Other Topics in Advanced P2P Computing and Networking Important Dates You are invited to submit an initial proposal of 1-2 pages describing the topic of your chapter. The proposal should include the authors' contact information, tentative title, abstract, and table of content for the chapter. Proposal Deadline: 30 April 2008 Notification of proposal acceptance: 31 May 2008 Full chapter submission: 31 August 2008 Review report received: 31 October 2008 Final version submission: 31 December 2008 Contact Editor: Dr. Xuemin (Sherman) Shen Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada Email: xshen@bbcr.uwaterlo.ca ------=_Part_4607_3860441.1206565731933 Content-Type: application/pdf; name="Call for Book Chapter.pdf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: 0.1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Call for Book Chapter.pdf" JVBERi0xLjQNJeLjz9MNCjExIDAgb2JqIDw8L0xpbmVhcml6ZWQgMS9MIDIyNzQ1L08gMTMvRSAx NDI3Ni9OIDIvVCAyMjQ3OC9IIFsgNjk2IDIxN10+Pg1lbmRvYmoNICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg DQp4cmVmDQoxMSAyMA0KMDAwMDAwMDAxNiAwMDAwMCBuDQowMDAwMDAwOTEzIDAwMDAwIG4NCjAw MDAwMDA5OTAgMDAwMDAgbg0KMDAwMDAwMTExOCAwMDAwMCBuDQowMDAwMDAxMjQ2IDAwMDAwIG4N CjAwMDAwMDE3NTkgMDAwMDAgbg0KMDAwMDAwMjE1NSAwMDAwMCBuDQowMDAwMDAyNTYxIDAwMDAw 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