From sam-bounces@irtf.org Tue Dec 2 07:09:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1FA3A6817; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:09:13 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01723A6817 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:09:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.117 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.117 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BCSxvPqVaXxr for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:09:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f19.google.com (mail-gx0-f19.google.com [209.85.217.19]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1ED3A67D7 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:09:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by gxk12 with SMTP id 12so2704662gxk.7 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:09:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=m6N8SepIGqzHA6XX608ZFUFYTn7nSyBqmZHfFpsJJoQ=; b=ZtBVz1KNu//dwG1aEog8/GCwMbyZVNAIGEkL0krYSP82fJdEcIoB2PU9eQSIcm8RTp Q/1X46RA4Iz5JgZow9PbUvJcrXJQlS0br7yMGVkYMl3ttw4M+2TX6E0MR/XkSjoXEWtD 5FW70+rmGRwWo1GN5+1z/iCuklcnAsBgX3iuU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=eRkaOxYkaeayeRQk1oWKqr0pcUQqqCM1SnhsG5zdU9P654Ja3cL0cvrDlt/nkMwQTE 4u+17eOZwoF01U7VMRAvlpVvigv2xatl5PsUgjTBIrrgYeDXp/NKggMU8PpqgqyYed87 /KQpCqyXmklL0AegVhNGwz94ZCWeSjt191dQU= Received: by 10.142.153.7 with SMTP id a7mr4153253wfe.294.1228230332009; Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:05:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.214.20 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:05:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ce32a820812020705w53938096qfd25b932142164cf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:05:31 -0500 From: "John Buford" To: sam MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d3aad3e69b9090b4 Subject: [SAM] meeting plan for 2009 X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: buford@samrg.org List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0795181682==" Sender: sam-bounces@irtf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@irtf.org --===============0795181682== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_118484_21464698.1228230332013" ------=_Part_118484_21464698.1228230332013 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The next SAM RG meeting is an interim meeting at IEEE CCNC, Jan 11, 2009, as previously announced on the list. In addition, we are tentatively planning on holding SAM RG meetings in 2009 during - IETF 74, San Francisco, March 22-27 - IETF 76, Hiroshima, Nov 8-13 John Buford Jeremy Mineweaser ------=_Part_118484_21464698.1228230332013 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
The next SAM RG meeting is an interim meeting at IEEE CCNC,
Jan 11, 2009, as previously announced on the list.
 
In addition, we are tentatively planning on holding SAM RG meetings
in 2009 during
 
- IETF 74, San Francisco, March 22-27
- IETF 76, Hiroshima, Nov 8-13

John Buford
Jeremy Mineweaser
------=_Part_118484_21464698.1228230332013-- --===============0795181682== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam --===============0795181682==-- From sam-bounces@irtf.org Mon Dec 8 06:08:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E823A6A76; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 06:08:01 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D2E3A6A63 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 06:08:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.117 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.117 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QXjX41MwdzMZ for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 06:08:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EAE23A689F for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 06:08:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so1472334rvb.7 for ; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:07:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=94w+Tyl/vrmzOKJ8FJrKkjec7xGZbiEyz8bA76ERnck=; b=L+47lC9CnVYGWLdn1mGhcKm7VWfAM45FFZa0KE5i74jI4kXIUkRJOpglYgL01foM9p 0VlwqBTEadCJA6Et4s/RGqwluGnViXGE8x+pfpeBQBqFAkRuE8V/mW6i/pPuHMmBOCE0 OcnCmsq3j5/+pTkeMgAvMaet9xhXAhEORAzv0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version :content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=PJQAjHs85To2SlgPXE8OG0n1sJAaQnyGhgWh0HxliQtYpso9mbwfeyfcPYkL++h0Y4 vrUDQkDajZ6bKwOIxE19cMvKv4r+IrUUrXyYMcSpNIhDLrsvgV/fVImTtqBVEbfTZd+y qQS/LYrFbIClFhkCH3nYvaeUfLCZq/SHwP1Fg= Received: by 10.140.127.13 with SMTP id z13mr1673486rvc.145.1228745273151; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:07:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.168.15 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 06:07:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ce32a820812080607r7623e964i77ae3400faa9d39d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 09:07:53 -0500 From: "John Buford" To: sam MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a5dbd5396cacfd04 Subject: [SAM] XCAST at IETF 76 in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: buford@samrg.org List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0591160011==" Sender: sam-bounces@irtf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@irtf.org --===============0591160011== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_40256_22608445.1228745273144" ------=_Part_40256_22608445.1228745273144 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear XCAST-team, Please comment to the RG mailing list regarding what XCAST-related activities we could cover at a SAM RG meeting if we scheduled it at IETF 76. Thanks, John ------=_Part_40256_22608445.1228745273144 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Dear XCAST-team,
 
Please comment to the RG mailing list regarding what
XCAST-related activities we could cover at a SAM RG
meeting if we scheduled it at IETF 76.
 
Thanks,
John
------=_Part_40256_22608445.1228745273144-- --===============0591160011== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam --===============0591160011==-- From sam-bounces@irtf.org Mon Dec 8 11:15:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACDBC3A6A9D; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:15:59 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA61E3A679F; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:15:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.373 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.373 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.125, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bA0WzulADXMC; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:15:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay2.mail.vrmd.de (relay2.mail.vrmd.de [81.28.224.28]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2770A3A6A9D; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:15:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.79.236.249] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by relay2.mail.vrmd.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L9la2-0007UE-9K; Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:15:42 +0100 Message-Id: <0BB96D27-921B-4F6D-BFA5-32B657E7EEA7@let.de> From: Marc Manthey To: sam In-Reply-To: <4ce32a820812080607r7623e964i77ae3400faa9d39d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:15:40 +0100 References: <4ce32a820812080607r7623e964i77ae3400faa9d39d@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Relay-User: marc@let.de Cc: mipshop , multimob@ietf.org, mobopts Subject: Re: [SAM] XCAST at IETF 76 in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0890361459==" Sender: sam-bounces@irtf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@irtf.org --===============0890361459== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-333--799045718 --Apple-Mail-333--799045718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 08.12.2008 um 15:07 schrieb John Buford: > Dear XCAST-team, > > Please comment to the RG mailing list regarding what > XCAST-related activities we could cover at a SAM RG > meeting if we scheduled it at IETF 76. > > Thanks, > John hello i am curious if some of them might read this too https://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=3D30760 > As I wrote on the BBS in linux-xcast6 of sourceforge, we don't have > patches for Mac OS X. I heard some want to try but currently I think > nobody working on porting XCAST6 on Mac. > >> What does a universal P2P overlay protocol mean in detail? Is it =20 >> similar to the common API by Dabek et al. ("Towards a Common API =20 >> for Structured Peer-to-Peer Overlays", 2003)? > > Probably general p2p overlay protocol is not directly targeted =20 > within the RG, but p2p/overlay multicast issues may do. There are =20 > some current efforts within the P2PSIP WG, not sure what about =20 > P2PRG... > >> Btw: It makes sense to have an interface definition between ALM =20 >> 'stack' and application. But this should be a part of a common =20 >> group membership framework maybe borrowed from IGMP/MLD. That could =20= >> be also an outcome of SAM RG. > > Re: group member management seems a good item to work on, maybe we =20 > can work out something within the group... regards marc -- Les Enfants Terribles - WWW.LET.DE Marc Manthey 50672 K=F6ln - Germany Hildeboldplatz 1a Tel.:0049-221-3558032 Mobil:0049-1577-3329231 mail: marc@let.de PGP/GnuPG: 0x1ac02f3296b12b4d jabber :marc@kgraff.net IRC: #opencu freenode.net twitter: http://twitter.com/macbroadcast web: http://www.let.de Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and =20= certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise). Please note that according to the German law on data retention, =20 information on every electronic information exchange with me is =20 retained for a period of six months. --Apple-Mail-333--799045718 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Am 08.12.2008 um = 15:07 schrieb John Buford:

Dear XCAST-team,
 
=
Please comment to the RG mailing list regarding what
=
XCAST-related activities we could cover at a SAM RG
=
meeting if we scheduled it at IETF 76.
 
=
Thanks,
=
John

hello 

<= /div>i am curious if  some of them might read this = too


As = I wrote on the BBS in linux-xcast6 of sourceforge, we don't = have
patches for Mac OS X. I heard some want to = try but currently I think
nobody working on porting XCAST6 on = Mac.


 What does a universal = P2P overlay protocol mean in detail? Is it similar to the common API by = Dabek et al. ("Towards a Common API for Structured Peer-to-Peer = Overlays", 2003)?

Probably general p2p overlay = protocol is not directly targeted within the RG, but p2p/overlay = multicast issues may do. There are some current efforts within the = P2PSIP WG, not sure what about P2PRG...

 Btw: It makes sense to have an interface definition = between ALM 'stack' and application. But this should be a part of a = common group membership framework maybe borrowed from IGMP/MLD. That = could be also an outcome of SAM RG.

Re: group member = management seems a good item to work on, maybe we can work out something = within the = group...


re= gards

marc
--
Les Enfants Terribles - = WWW.LET.DE
Marc Manthey 50672 K=F6ln - = Germany
Hildeboldplatz = 1a
Tel.:0049-221-3558032
Mobil:0049-1577-3329231
mail: marc@let.de
PGP/GnuPG: = 0x1ac02f3296b12b4d 
IRC: #o= pencu  freenode.net

=
Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time = you read them, and certainly don't reflect those of any other = entity (legal or otherwise).

Please note that = according to the German law on data retention, information on every = electronic information exchange with me is retained for a period of = six months.
=
= --Apple-Mail-333--799045718-- --===============0890361459== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam --===============0890361459==-- From sam-bounces@irtf.org Mon Dec 8 16:22:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14003A6836; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:22:24 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4363A6836 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:22:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LvxNxOJYLlRj for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:22:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.nagoya-u.jp (mail1.nagoya-u.jp [133.6.1.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4B03A67B5 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:22:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [114.48.3.130] (EM114-48-3-130.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp [114.48.3.130]) by mail1.nagoya-u.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18748009B; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 09:22:11 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <493DBA2D.5000707@nagoya-u.jp> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:22:05 +0900 From: Nobuo Kawaguchi Organization: Nagoya University User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: buford@samrg.org References: <4ce32a820812080607r7623e964i77ae3400faa9d39d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ce32a820812080607r7623e964i77ae3400faa9d39d@mail.gmail.com> Cc: sam Subject: Re: [SAM] XCAST at IETF 76 in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: sam-bounces@irtf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@irtf.org Dear John and SAM members, We have been implementing XCAST2.0 Engine which get a XCAST marked packet from a router and perform a routing/forwarding task for XCAST. And it is now almost working. In the next year, we are planning to deploy it to the academic network of Japan called SINET3. So, I hope we can present our deployment status in the IETF76 at Hiroshima, Japan. Also, SAMTK is now under pre-release stage. We are now integrating SAMTK with XCAST with DVTS. yours, Nobuo Kawaguchi John Buford Wrotes: > Dear XCAST-team, > > Please comment to the RG mailing list regarding what > XCAST-related activities we could cover at a SAM RG > meeting if we scheduled it at IETF 76. > > Thanks, > John _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@irtf.org Tue Dec 9 03:22:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD253A681C; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 03:22:35 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBDE3A681C for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 03:22:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KOfB9dAYUWfX for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 03:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.mei.co.jp (smtp.mei.co.jp [133.183.100.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D8C3A6802 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 03:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gw.jp.panasonic.com ([157.8.1.145]) by smtp.mei.co.jp (8.12.11.20060614/3.7W/kc-maile12) with ESMTP id mB9BMPIi011355; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:22:25 +0900 (JST) Received: by mail-gw.jp.panasonic.com (8.11.6p2/3.7W/somlb3) with ESMTP id mB9BMQA09148; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:22:26 +0900 (JST) Received: from epochmail.jp.panasonic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.jp.panasonic.com (8.11.6p2/3.7W/kc-maili05) with ESMTP id mB9BMOH15971; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:22:24 +0900 (JST) Received: by epochmail.jp.panasonic.com (8.12.11.20060308/3.7W/somla2) id mB9BMQWi021457; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:22:26 +0900 (JST) Received: from donau.mrit.mei.co.jp by somla2.jp.panasonic.com (8.12.11.20060308/3.7W) with ESMTP id mB9BMPqN021444; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:22:25 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:22:31 +0900 From: Eiichi Muramoto To: buford@samrg.org In-Reply-To: <4ce32a820812080607r7623e964i77ae3400faa9d39d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ce32a820812080607r7623e964i77ae3400faa9d39d@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <20081209202109.780F.F5714DCE@jp.panasonic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.45.02 [ja] Cc: sam Subject: Re: [SAM] XCAST at IETF 76 in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sam-bounces@irtf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@irtf.org John-san I would like to have demo at IETF 76 too. Ettikan-san will update you at CCNC2009 Regards, Eiichi Muramoto On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 09:07:53 -0500 "John Buford" wrote: > Dear XCAST-team, > > Please comment to the RG mailing list regarding what > XCAST-related activities we could cover at a SAM RG > meeting if we scheduled it at IETF 76. > > Thanks, > John -- Eiichi Muramoto _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@irtf.org Tue Dec 9 03:45:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8F83A6B14; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 03:45:38 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB8F3A6B14 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 03:45:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.047 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.047 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.929, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gRiPeblxC3vq for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 03:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FC73A6B09 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 03:45:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so1949844rvb.7 for ; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:45:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=JrYuObZFVrolmyhQHEVq50H0+LbfafJQ7dgU9BsE12M=; b=uFycVX8Lb7dKHi4NerhDd3RDTt7iKAFtXrgn+ZMgH764UjYEdpIQvbtMMioUfwuvbI 8iVtEQHUGTdOoQdsKTxe93O9u87CUroBn+oDm4piifSE/8X7FJlIfFRX7e2uY0GznxRy xKZvqo0mYT1tV3LaaWUZNHLr6dWjfKTC/Vg+0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=jmVjElb2NNAZ3l+O8nK7dMOzDMalFP4PvOAEJZX5q2chVXnTgNtfSU85KFdd+562vz 63qA70tiQrMT5ho1pLGk+/DKOsm8Ua1CBJCvwH2EU1RGNbzvGIQ6kmfq9l4z62UyXNxB lyg3GxGJ6uCzeGq6gCtOdsC1UscrqnihtRDfU= Received: by 10.141.98.13 with SMTP id a13mr21199rvm.20.1228823130784; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:45:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.168.15 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 03:45:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ce32a820812090345q1ce133ecud82e8f4fc7326068@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 06:45:30 -0500 From: "John Buford" To: "Eiichi Muramoto" In-Reply-To: <20081209202109.780F.F5714DCE@jp.panasonic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4ce32a820812080607r7623e964i77ae3400faa9d39d@mail.gmail.com> <20081209202109.780F.F5714DCE@jp.panasonic.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f60d07f1a04ac2b9 Cc: sam Subject: Re: [SAM] XCAST at IETF 76 in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: buford@samrg.org List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1586241739==" Sender: sam-bounces@irtf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@irtf.org --===============1586241739== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_48229_27431935.1228823130774" ------=_Part_48229_27431935.1228823130774 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Muramoto-san, Nobuo, Thanks. Can you tell me, is the SINET3 deployment related to the WIDE testbed deployment work done before? I am wondering if there is any activity in WIDE that might also be reported, since WIDE is the host of IETF 76. Also, is there any work in PUCC (http://www.pucc.jp/PUCC/English/) related to ALM? Regards, John On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Eiichi Muramoto < muramoto.eiichi@jp.panasonic.com> wrote: > John-san > > I would like to have demo at IETF 76 too. > > Ettikan-san will update you at CCNC2009 > > Regards, > Eiichi Muramoto > > On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 09:07:53 -0500 > "John Buford" wrote: > > > Dear XCAST-team, > > > > Please comment to the RG mailing list regarding what > > XCAST-related activities we could cover at a SAM RG > > meeting if we scheduled it at IETF 76. > > > > Thanks, > > John > > -- > Eiichi Muramoto > > ------=_Part_48229_27431935.1228823130774 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Muramoto-san, Nobuo,
 
Thanks.  Can you tell me, is the SINET3 deployment
related to the WIDE testbed deployment work done before?
I am wondering if there is any activity in WIDE that might also
be reported, since WIDE is the host of IETF 76.
 
Also, is there any work in PUCC (http://www.pucc.jp/PUCC/English/)
related to ALM?
 
Regards,
John

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Eiichi Muramoto <muramoto.eiichi@jp.panasonic.com> wrote:
John-san

I would like to have demo at IETF 76 too.

Ettikan-san will update you at CCNC2009

Regards,
Eiichi Muramoto

On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 09:07:53 -0500
"John Buford" <buford@samrg.org> wrote:

>  Dear XCAST-team,
>
> Please comment to the RG mailing list regarding what
> XCAST-related activities we could cover at a SAM RG
> meeting if we scheduled it at IETF 76.
>
> Thanks,
> John

--
Eiichi Muramoto <muramoto.eiichi@jp.panasonic.com>




------=_Part_48229_27431935.1228823130774-- --===============1586241739== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam --===============1586241739==-- From sam-bounces@irtf.org Tue Dec 9 17:56:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1BE3A69A3; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:56:51 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4404E3A69A3 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:56:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30p0GYSET1nZ for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:56:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.nagoya-u.jp (mail1.nagoya-u.jp [133.6.1.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59ECB3A6806 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:56:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.207.161] (gw.el.itc.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.207.2]) by mail1.nagoya-u.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA04880098; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:56:39 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <493F21D8.1000002@nagoya-u.jp> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:56:40 +0900 From: Nobuo Kawaguchi Organization: Nagoya University User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: buford@samrg.org References: <4ce32a820812080607r7623e964i77ae3400faa9d39d@mail.gmail.com> <20081209202109.780F.F5714DCE@jp.panasonic.com> <4ce32a820812090345q1ce133ecud82e8f4fc7326068@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ce32a820812090345q1ce133ecud82e8f4fc7326068@mail.gmail.com> Cc: sam Subject: Re: [SAM] XCAST at IETF 76 in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: sam-bounces@irtf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@irtf.org John, > Can you tell me, is the SINET3 deployment > related to the WIDE testbed deployment work done before? Yes. We already have an experiment of XCAST Engine on last WIDE camp (Sep. 2008). SINET3 deployment is the next step. And for PUCC, I don't have any information. yours, Nobuo Kawaguchi > Muramoto-san, Nobuo, > > Thanks. Can you tell me, is the SINET3 deployment > related to the WIDE testbed deployment work done before? > I am wondering if there is any activity in WIDE that might also > be reported, since WIDE is the host of IETF 76. > > Also, is there any work in PUCC (http://www.pucc.jp/PUCC/English/) > related to ALM? > > Regards, > John > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Eiichi Muramoto < > muramoto.eiichi@jp.panasonic.com> wrote: > >> John-san >> >> I would like to have demo at IETF 76 too. >> >> Ettikan-san will update you at CCNC2009 >> >> Regards, >> Eiichi Muramoto >> >> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 09:07:53 -0500 >> "John Buford" wrote: >> >>> Dear XCAST-team, >>> >>> Please comment to the RG mailing list regarding what >>> XCAST-related activities we could cover at a SAM RG >>> meeting if we scheduled it at IETF 76. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> John >> -- >> Eiichi Muramoto _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@irtf.org Tue Dec 9 18:20:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B083A6B25; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:20:33 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D29C3A6B4B for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:20:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y4vehziIbsYr for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:20:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from zcsg-mailro11.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (dish-sg.nttdocomo.co.jp [202.19.227.74]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9B63A6B25 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:20:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from zcsg-mailmt12.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (unknown [10.160.86.41]) by zcsg-mailro11.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD92A34002 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:20:23 +0900 (JST) Received: from smtp_saver-daemon.zcsg-mailmt12.is.nttdocomo.co.jp by zcsg-mailmt12.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (NTT DoCoMo Mail System) id <0KBN00IRT2HZQJ00@NTTDoCoMo.co.jp> for sam@irtf.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:20:23 +0900 (JST) Received: from zcsg-mailmi12.is.nttdocomo.co.jp ([10.160.86.49]) by zcsg-mailmt12.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (NTT DoCoMo Mail System) with SMTP id <0KBN004MQ2HZ9480@NTTDoCoMo.co.jp> for sam@irtf.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:20:23 +0900 (JST) Received: from unknown (HELO zcsg-mailvs14.is.nttdocomo.co.jp) (10.160.86.48) by zcsg-mailmi12.is.nttdocomo.co.jp with SMTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:20:23 +0900 Received: from zcsg-mailvs14.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.nttdocomo.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF3650003; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:20:23 +0900 (JST) Received: from zcsg-mailsa11.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (unknown [10.160.86.46]) by zcsg-mailvs14.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F44B50002; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:20:23 +0900 (JST) Received: from gc_check-daemon.zcsg-mailsa11.is.nttdocomo.co.jp by zcsg-mailsa11.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (NTT DoCoMo Mail System) id <0KBN0082H2HZL700@NTTDoCoMo.co.jp>; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:20:23 +0900 (JST) Received: from akishikawano24 (akishikawano24.docomo.docomogr.net [10.19.103.50]) by zcsg-mailsa11.is.nttdocomo.co.jp (NTT DoCoMo Mail System) with ESMTPA id <0KBN008AL2HYST70@NTTDoCoMo.co.jp>; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:20:23 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:20:22 +0900 From: Norihiro Ishikawa To: Nobuo Kawaguchi , buford@samrg.org Message-id: <012601c95a6d$dafd0580$3267130a@docomo.docomogr.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-DoCoMo: ZCSG References: <4ce32a820812080607r7623e964i77ae3400faa9d39d@mail.gmail.com> <20081209202109.780F.F5714DCE@jp.panasonic.com> <4ce32a820812090345q1ce133ecud82e8f4fc7326068@mail.gmail.com> <493F21D8.1000002@nagoya-u.jp> Cc: sam Subject: Re: [SAM] XCAST at IETF 76 in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sam-bounces@irtf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@irtf.org Dear John, I am a BOD member of PUCC. PUCC is developing P2P/overlay networking protocols including multicast, device metadata and their applications. So, the PUCC streaming protocol is essentially one of application layer multicast protocols. One of main applications of PUCC is now home appliances control (from mobile phones). PUCC will do demonstrations at Sands Expo, CES 2009. If you are interested in PUCC, please visit the PUCC booth. In addition, 3 papers regarding PUCC will be presented at the special session (Home Networks on P2P), CCNC 2009. If you need more information about PUCC, please contact me personally. I hope this helps. Best regards, Norihiro Ishikawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nobuo Kawaguchi" To: Cc: "sam" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [SAM] XCAST at IETF 76 in Hiroshima > John, > > > Can you tell me, is the SINET3 deployment > > related to the WIDE testbed deployment work done before? > > Yes. We already have an experiment of XCAST Engine on > last WIDE camp (Sep. 2008). SINET3 deployment is the next step. > > And for PUCC, I don't have any information. > > yours, > > Nobuo Kawaguchi > > > > > Muramoto-san, Nobuo, > > > > Thanks. Can you tell me, is the SINET3 deployment > > related to the WIDE testbed deployment work done before? > > I am wondering if there is any activity in WIDE that might also > > be reported, since WIDE is the host of IETF 76. > > > > Also, is there any work in PUCC (http://www.pucc.jp/PUCC/English/) > > related to ALM? > > > > Regards, > > John > > > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Eiichi Muramoto < > > muramoto.eiichi@jp.panasonic.com> wrote: > > > >> John-san > >> > >> I would like to have demo at IETF 76 too. > >> > >> Ettikan-san will update you at CCNC2009 > >> > >> Regards, > >> Eiichi Muramoto > >> > >> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 09:07:53 -0500 > >> "John Buford" wrote: > >> > >>> Dear XCAST-team, > >>> > >>> Please comment to the RG mailing list regarding what > >>> XCAST-related activities we could cover at a SAM RG > >>> meeting if we scheduled it at IETF 76. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> John > >> -- > >> Eiichi Muramoto > > _______________________________________________ > SAM mailing list > SAM@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam > _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam From sam-bounces@irtf.org Tue Dec 9 18:38:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5F73A6B58; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:38:09 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6B43A6B58 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:38:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.436 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.436 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.047, BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id euk7R4sOztfV for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:38:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay2.mail.vrmd.de (relay2.mail.vrmd.de [81.28.224.28]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19AF3A6B4B for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:38:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.79.236.249] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by relay2.mail.vrmd.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LAExV-0003G8-DW for sam@irtf.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:37:53 +0100 Message-Id: <152F6046-B8B7-47B9-9CE2-8E68108B1FA4@let.de> From: Marc Manthey To: sam In-Reply-To: <012601c95a6d$dafd0580$3267130a@docomo.docomogr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:37:52 +0100 References: <4ce32a820812080607r7623e964i77ae3400faa9d39d@mail.gmail.com> <20081209202109.780F.F5714DCE@jp.panasonic.com> <4ce32a820812090345q1ce133ecud82e8f4fc7326068@mail.gmail.com> <493F21D8.1000002@nagoya-u.jp> <012601c95a6d$dafd0580$3267130a@docomo.docomogr.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Relay-User: marc@let.de Subject: Re: [SAM] XCAST at IETF 76 in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1694010524==" Sender: sam-bounces@irtf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@irtf.org --===============1694010524== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-53--686114358 --Apple-Mail-53--686114358 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > .... is developing P2P/overlay networking protocols including > multicast, device metadata and their applications. > > So, the..... streaming protocol is essentially one of application =20 > layer > multicast protocols. > > One of main applications of .... is now home appliances control (from > mobile phones). hello have you seen Flash 10 multicast demo recenly? http://flickr.com/photos/15543694@N06/3044147140/sizes/l/ cu Marc -- Les Enfants Terribles - WWW.LET.DE Marc Manthey 50672 K=F6ln - Germany Hildeboldplatz 1a Tel.:0049-221-3558032 Mobil:0049-1577-3329231 mail: marc@let.de PGP/GnuPG: 0x1ac02f3296b12b4d jabber :marc@kgraff.net IRC: #opencu freenode.net twitter: http://twitter.com/macbroadcast web: http://www.let.de Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and =20= certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise). 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= --Apple-Mail-53--686114358-- --===============1694010524== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam --===============1694010524==-- From sam-bounces@irtf.org Tue Dec 9 18:59:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-sam-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB603A6B79; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:59:18 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810AA28C159 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:59:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.357 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.357 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.620, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0isnbEF6ZXPH for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EFA3A6806 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c38so144332ana.37 for ; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:59:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=4+oTpo5zzDtnUs91UwAr2aQCstHTAlPBKUucLADZSsc=; b=P0kYHu/U1VjL9+6i+hz8vUXR1MVWiTfmy6HHUPCk0I+KuB7t6ig/PB2RdZMqYIj0V6 zP72jPY8pStYGYIbyqgBFo9G6q/OzkZF8B5YUF1K6rCm9RI5qraHdalQk1Q51apJcmvt i/ieI2S9yo/nEqRGI+ZjIyMh2kBkv/bLEDZoY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=dordus+6n1K8PadWH7x7jPEeBdOv/ZPdKW2Qljus1BYDsZB63RXkjEUsqWYLvXdfng aG3qagl/CtA/CJdv5NAR1yYeR2Q6opfzLd7nPD2LFeoj5I1NX4WJn6GS13jmK/jEfk+n nD/HQbjZ33CpkaPFxTK4E04g0sEyykSc5IQ30= Received: by 10.114.67.2 with SMTP id p2mr598703waa.208.1228877947966; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.214.20 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:59:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ce32a820812091859j74c7faa1uad2c2d7479b9f185@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 21:59:07 -0500 From: "John Buford" To: "Norihiro Ishikawa" In-Reply-To: <012601c95a6d$dafd0580$3267130a@docomo.docomogr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4ce32a820812080607r7623e964i77ae3400faa9d39d@mail.gmail.com> <20081209202109.780F.F5714DCE@jp.panasonic.com> <4ce32a820812090345q1ce133ecud82e8f4fc7326068@mail.gmail.com> <493F21D8.1000002@nagoya-u.jp> <012601c95a6d$dafd0580$3267130a@docomo.docomogr.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 74b75b66c3e6f89a Cc: sam Subject: Re: [SAM] XCAST at IETF 76 in Hiroshima X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: buford@samrg.org List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sam-bounces@irtf.org Errors-To: sam-bounces@irtf.org Dear Norihiro, Thanks very much for the information. Best regards, John Buford On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Norihiro Ishikawa wrote: > Dear John, > > I am a BOD member of PUCC. > > PUCC is developing P2P/overlay networking protocols including > multicast, device metadata and their applications. > > So, the PUCC streaming protocol is essentially one of application layer > multicast protocols. > > One of main applications of PUCC is now home appliances control (from > mobile phones). > > PUCC will do demonstrations at Sands Expo, CES 2009. If you > are interested in PUCC, please visit the PUCC booth. > > In addition, 3 papers regarding PUCC will be presented at the > special session (Home Networks on P2P), CCNC 2009. > > If you need more information about PUCC, please contact me > personally. > > I hope this helps. > > Best regards, > > Norihiro Ishikawa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nobuo Kawaguchi" > To: > Cc: "sam" > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:56 AM > Subject: Re: [SAM] XCAST at IETF 76 in Hiroshima > > >> John, >> >> > Can you tell me, is the SINET3 deployment >> > related to the WIDE testbed deployment work done before? >> >> Yes. We already have an experiment of XCAST Engine on >> last WIDE camp (Sep. 2008). SINET3 deployment is the next step. >> >> And for PUCC, I don't have any information. >> >> yours, >> >> Nobuo Kawaguchi >> >> >> >> > Muramoto-san, Nobuo, >> > >> > Thanks. Can you tell me, is the SINET3 deployment >> > related to the WIDE testbed deployment work done before? >> > I am wondering if there is any activity in WIDE that might also >> > be reported, since WIDE is the host of IETF 76. >> > >> > Also, is there any work in PUCC (http://www.pucc.jp/PUCC/English/) >> > related to ALM? >> > >> > Regards, >> > John >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Eiichi Muramoto < >> > muramoto.eiichi@jp.panasonic.com> wrote: >> > >> >> John-san >> >> >> >> I would like to have demo at IETF 76 too. >> >> >> >> Ettikan-san will update you at CCNC2009 >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Eiichi Muramoto >> >> >> >> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 09:07:53 -0500 >> >> "John Buford" wrote: >> >> >> >>> Dear XCAST-team, >> >>> >> >>> Please comment to the RG mailing list regarding what >> >>> XCAST-related activities we could cover at a SAM RG >> >>> meeting if we scheduled it at IETF 76. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, >> >>> John >> >> -- >> >> Eiichi Muramoto >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SAM mailing list >> SAM@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam >> > > _______________________________________________ SAM mailing list SAM@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam