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In Ticket 38, we have a proposal on how schema extensions should be =
work. However there is still not standard way to communicate required =
extensions. I've added a ticket (#40) to cover this item.  Ticket 40 is =
of particular importance to those building apps to run on generic SCIM =
Service Providers and need a way to communicate needed extensions in a =
consistent format.

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At the Orlando meeting I proposed that Ticket 31 (Support for Consistent =
Paged Results) be dropped due to unclear need.

The feedback from those present was that more information was desired.

One use case we have talked about for consistent results is to reconcile =
data in the cloud and in particular detect deletions that have or have =
not occurred and thus are out of sync with the service provider. =20

Just to get a better feel for this issue (ticket 31) do you:

1.  Need a method for reconciliation (which may use paging or some other =
method)
2.  Have another reason for wanting consistent paged results.  If so, =
can you describe it?

Phil

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> 1.  Need a method for reconciliation (which may use paging or some other =
method)

Yes

> 2.  Have another reason for wanting consistent paged results.

No

--Kelly


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Subject: [scim] Consistent Paged Results - Question for the group

At the Orlando meeting I proposed that Ticket 31 (Support for Consistent Pa=
ged Results) be dropped due to unclear need.

The feedback from those present was that more information was desired.

One use case we have talked about for consistent results is to reconcile da=
ta in the cloud and in particular detect deletions that have or have not oc=
curred and thus are out of sync with the service provider. =20

Just to get a better feel for this issue (ticket 31) do you:

1.  Need a method for reconciliation (which may use paging or some other me=
thod) 2.  Have another reason for wanting consistent paged results.  If so,=
 can you describe it?

Phil

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In Orlando I proposed some changes to clarify the schema extension model wi=
thin SCIM.  Solving this would introduce some non-backwards compatible chan=
ges, but this is an important issue to solve as more people start to deploy=
 SCIM in different ways.

Please review the problem statement in issue #38 (http://trac.tools.ietf.or=
g/wg/scim/trac/ticket/38) and the high-level proposed changes that are outl=
ined in comment #1.   I would like to get some feedback from the working gr=
oup before trying to add these changes into the drafts.

Thanks,
--Kelly

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Hi All,



We want to highlight SCIM at the 2013 Cloud Identity Summit (CIS). Anyone
interested in participating in the 1.1 interop?



We=92ll scope the interop in the coming weeks.



CIS will be in Napa, CA from July 8 to July 12. The interop will occur on
Monday July 8 or Tuesday July 9 (most likely, it will be the former).



Thanks so much, and I look forward to hearing from you. Can you please let
me know =93yes=94 or =93maybe=94 by next Monday (April 8)?



Best,



Mark Diodati

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I notice that up to now all published SCIM schema URIs are URNs, e.g., urn:scim:schema:core:1.0

We're contemplating some schema extensions for the higher ed and research space and our first choice would be to use URLs rather than URNs to identify our extensions.  Is this likely to cause us any problems? It would seem to be spec-conformant.

E.g. http://ciferproject.org/schema/ciferRegistry/1.0

        --Keith

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On 4/3/13 4:40 PM, Keith Hazelton wrote:
> I notice that up to now all published SCIM schema URIs are URNs, 
> e.g., urn:scim:schema:core:1.0

I don't see those documented anywhere. Also, a formal URN namespace
was never issued for 'scim':

https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces/urn-namespaces.xml

Am I missing something?

> We're contemplating some schema extensions for the higher ed and 
> research space and our first choice would be to use URLs rather
> than URNs to identify our extensions.  Is this likely to cause us
> any problems?

No.

Peter

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> Also, a formal URN namespace was never issued for 'scim': ... Am I missin=
g something?

You're right.  This still needs to happen.

>> We're contemplating some schema extensions for the higher ed and=20
>> research space and our first choice would be to use URLs rather than=20
>> URNs to identify our extensions.  Is this likely to cause us any=20
>> problems?
>
> No.

I don't see any problems with this.  In section 4, the schema draft says: "=
Each schema extension must identify a URI used to identify the extension." =
 To me, this means that a URL or URN would be valid.

--Kelly

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On 4/3/13 4:40 PM, Keith Hazelton wrote:
> I notice that up to now all published SCIM schema URIs are URNs, e.g.,=20
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I don't see those documented anywhere. Also, a formal URN namespace was nev=
er issued for 'scim':

https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces/urn-namespaces.xml

Am I missing something?

> We're contemplating some schema extensions for the higher ed and=20
> research space and our first choice would be to use URLs rather than=20
> URNs to identify our extensions.  Is this likely to cause us any=20
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No.

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On 4/4/13 9:56 AM, Kelly Grizzle wrote:
>> Also, a formal URN namespace was never issued for 'scim': ... Am
>> I missing something?
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> You're right.  This still needs to happen.

OK. I'm happy to provide some guidance on that -- it's really pretty
easy. See https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3406 and
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bis-urn-ns-reg/
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Yes, UnboundID will be there and will participate.  Looking forward to it!

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> Hi All,
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> We want to highlight SCIM at the 2013 Cloud Identity Summit (CIS). 
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> We'll scope the interop in the coming weeks.
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> CIS will be in Napa, CA from July 8 to July 12. The interop will occur 
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>
> Thanks so much, and I look forward to hearing from you. Can you please 
> let me know "yes" or "maybe" by next Monday (April 8)?
>
> Best,
>
> Mark Diodati
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> Co-Chair---Cloud Identity Summit
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You can count SailPoint in!

--Kelly

From: scim-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bjo=
rn Aannestad
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Yes, UnboundID will be there and will participate.  Looking forward to it!

-Bjorn Aannestad

On 2013-04-03 3:17 PM, Mark Diodati wrote:
Hi All,

We want to highlight SCIM at the 2013 Cloud Identity Summit (CIS). Anyone i=
nterested in participating in the 1.1 interop?

We'll scope the interop in the coming weeks.

CIS will be in Napa, CA from July 8 to July 12. The interop will occur on M=
onday July 8 or Tuesday July 9 (most likely, it will be the former).

Thanks so much, and I look forward to hearing from you. Can you please let =
me know "yes" or "maybe" by next Monday (April 8)?

Best,

Mark Diodati
Co-Chair-Cloud Identity Summit




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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">You can count SailPoin=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">--Kelly<o:p></o:p></sp=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bjorn Aannestad<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 04, 2013 1:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> scim@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [scim] SCIM 1.1 Interop at 2013 Cloud Identity Summit<o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Yes, UnboundID will b=
e there and will participate.&nbsp; Looking forward to it!<br>
<br>
-Bjorn Aannestad<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">We want to highlight SCIM at the 2013 Cloud Identity Summ=
it (CIS). Anyone interested in participating in the 1.1 interop?</span><o:p=
></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">We&#8217;ll scope the interop in the coming weeks.</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">CIS will be in Napa, CA from July 8 to July 12. The inter=
op will occur on Monday July 8 or Tuesday July 9 (most likely, it will be t=
he former).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">Thanks so much, and I look forward to hearing from you. C=
an you please let me know &#8220;yes&#8221; or &#8220;maybe&#8221; by next =
Monday (April 8)?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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scim participants/enthusiasts/followers may not be aware that
the working group is using an issue tracker to keep track of
technical issues that need to be resolved.  Scanning the
list of open tickets is an excellent way to get a quick overview
of the status of the work and what remains to be done.  It's
also the first place to check if you feel like you have some
cycles to contribute to the working group and would like to
develop some text or just start a conversation.

The URI for the open tickets is:
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/scim/trac/report/1

Melinda

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+1

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> 
> Folks,
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> At Orlando we polled the room and there was clear consensus for closing
> 25 as suggested in the issue tracker.
> 
> This email serves as a confirmation for that consensus call - speak up now
> if you disagree.
> 
>        Leif & Morteza
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Phil

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On 2013-04-10, at 11:30, Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se> wrote:

> Folks,
> 
> At Orlando we polled the room and there was clear consensus for closing
> 29 as suggested in the issue tracker.
> 
> This email serves as a confirmation for that consensus call - speak up now
> if you disagree.
> 
>        Leif & Morteza
> _______________________________________________
> scim mailing list
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Folks,

At Orlando we polled the room and there was clear consensus for closing
28 by including a non-normative text in the spec explaining how multi-
tenacy could be implemented.

This email serves as a confirmation for that consensus call - speak up now
if you disagree.

        Leif & Morteza

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Folks,

At Orlando we polled the room and there was clear consensus for closing
33 as suggested in the issue tracker.

This email serves as a confirmation for that consensus call - speak up now
if you disagree.

        Leif & Morteza


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Sorry meant to say i agree with the call in Orlando. 

Phil

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On 2013-04-10, at 11:30, Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se> wrote:

> Folks,
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> At Orlando we polled the room and there was clear consensus for closing
> 29 as suggested in the issue tracker.
> 
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> if you disagree.
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+1

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+1

Phil

Sent from my phone.

On 2013-04-10, at 11:26, Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se> wrote:

>=20
> Folks,
>=20
> At Orlando we polled the room and there was clear consensus for=20
> closing
> 25 as suggested in the issue tracker.
>=20
> This email serves as a confirmation for that consensus call - speak up=20
> now if you disagree.
>=20
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Sorry meant to say i agree with the call in Orlando.=20

Phil

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On 2013-04-10, at 11:30, Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se> wrote:

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>=20
> At Orlando we polled the room and there was clear consensus for=20
> closing
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> now if you disagree.
>=20
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I agree with the consensus.

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On 2013-04-10, at 11:35 AM, Leif Johansson wrote:

> Folks,
> 
> At Orlando we polled the room and there was clear consensus for closing
> 33 as suggested in the issue tracker.
> 
> This email serves as a confirmation for that consensus call - speak up now
> if you disagree.
> 
>        Leif & Morteza
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l Hunt
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [scim] Issue #33 consensus call

I agree with the consensus.

Phil

@independentid
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On 2013-04-10, at 11:35 AM, Leif Johansson wrote:

> Folks,
>=20
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> closing
> 33 as suggested in the issue tracker.
>=20
> This email serves as a confirmation for that consensus call - speak up=20
> now if you disagree.
>=20
>        Leif & Morteza
>=20
> _______________________________________________
> scim mailing list
> scim@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim

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From: scim-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lei=
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Subject: [scim] issue #28 consensus call


Folks,

At Orlando we polled the room and there was clear consensus for closing
28 by including a non-normative text in the spec explaining how multi- tena=
cy could be implemented.

This email serves as a confirmation for that consensus call - speak up now =
if you disagree.

        Leif & Morteza
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To: Kelly Grizzle <kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com>, Bjorn Aannestad <bjorn.aannestad@unboundid.com>, "scim@ietf.org" <scim@ietf.org>
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Cisco will also join in.


Cheers,
Morteza

From: Kelly Grizzle <kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com<mailto:kelly.grizzle@sailp=
oint.com>>
Date: Thursday, April 4, 2013 11:19 AM
To: Bjorn Aannestad <bjorn.aannestad@unboundid.com<mailto:bjorn.aannestad@u=
nboundid.com>>, "scim@ietf.org<mailto:scim@ietf.org>" <scim@ietf.org<mailto=
:scim@ietf.org>>
Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM 1.1 Interop at 2013 Cloud Identity Summit

You can count SailPoint in!

--Kelly

From: scim-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:scim-boun=
ces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bjorn Aannestad
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Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM 1.1 Interop at 2013 Cloud Identity Summit

Yes, UnboundID will be there and will participate.  Looking forward to it!

-Bjorn Aannestad

On 2013-04-03 3:17 PM, Mark Diodati wrote:
Hi All,

We want to highlight SCIM at the 2013 Cloud Identity Summit (CIS). Anyone i=
nterested in participating in the 1.1 interop?

We=92ll scope the interop in the coming weeks.

CIS will be in Napa, CA from July 8 to July 12. The interop will occur on M=
onday July 8 or Tuesday July 9 (most likely, it will be the former).

Thanks so much, and I look forward to hearing from you. Can you please let =
me know =93yes=94 or =93maybe=94 by next Monday (April 8)?

Best,

Mark Diodati
Co-Chair=97Cloud Identity Summit




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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bjorn Aannestad<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 04, 2013 1:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:scim@ietf.org">scim@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [scim] SCIM 1.1 Interop at 2013 Cloud Identity Summit<o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">&n=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">We=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">&n=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">We=
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S will be in Napa, CA from July 8 to July 12. The interop will occur on Mon=
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The details are pretty vague and would have to understand the scenarios and=
 the IPR (if any) before we would commit to be there

From: scim-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mor=
teza Ansari (moransar)
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:07 PM
To: Kelly Grizzle; Bjorn Aannestad; scim@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM 1.1 Interop at 2013 Cloud Identity Summit

Cisco will also join in.


Cheers,
Morteza

From: Kelly Grizzle <kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com<mailto:kelly.grizzle@sailp=
oint.com>>
Date: Thursday, April 4, 2013 11:19 AM
To: Bjorn Aannestad <bjorn.aannestad@unboundid.com<mailto:bjorn.aannestad@u=
nboundid.com>>, "scim@ietf.org<mailto:scim@ietf.org>" <scim@ietf.org<mailto=
:scim@ietf.org>>
Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM 1.1 Interop at 2013 Cloud Identity Summit

You can count SailPoint in!

--Kelly

From: scim-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:scim-boun=
ces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bjorn Aannestad
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 1:10 PM
To: scim@ietf.org<mailto:scim@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM 1.1 Interop at 2013 Cloud Identity Summit

Yes, UnboundID will be there and will participate.  Looking forward to it!

-Bjorn Aannestad


On 2013-04-03 3:17 PM, Mark Diodati wrote:
Hi All,

We want to highlight SCIM at the 2013 Cloud Identity Summit (CIS). Anyone i=
nterested in participating in the 1.1 interop?

We'll scope the interop in the coming weeks.

CIS will be in Napa, CA from July 8 to July 12. The interop will occur on M=
onday July 8 or Tuesday July 9 (most likely, it will be the former).

Thanks so much, and I look forward to hearing from you. Can you please let =
me know "yes" or "maybe" by next Monday (April 8)?

Best,

Mark Diodati
Co-Chair-Cloud Identity Summit





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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The details are pretty=
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re we would commit to be there<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:windowtext">From:</span></b>=
<span style=3D"color:windowtext"> scim-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:scim-bounce=
s@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Morteza Ansari (moransar)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kelly Grizzle; Bjorn Aannestad; scim@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [scim] SCIM 1.1 Interop at 2013 Cloud Identity Summit<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">Cisco will also joi=
n in.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">Cheers,<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">Morteza<o:p></o:p><=
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0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From: </b>Kelly Grizzle &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kel=
ly.grizzle@sailpoint.com">kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, April 4, 2013 11:19 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Bjorn Aannestad &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bjorn.aannestad@unboundid.=
com">bjorn.aannestad@unboundid.com</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:scim@ie=
tf.org">scim@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:scim@ietf.org">scim@i=
etf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [scim] SCIM 1.1 Interop at 2013 Cloud Identity Summit<o=
:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">You can count SailPoin=
t in!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:=
p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">--Kelly</span><o:p></o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
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n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:windowtext">
<a href=3D"mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org">scim-bounces@ietf.org</a> [<a href=
=3D"mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bjorn Aannestad<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 04, 2013 1:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:scim@ietf.org">scim@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [scim] SCIM 1.1 Interop at 2013 Cloud Identity Summit</=
span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Yes, UnboundID will b=
e there and will participate.&nbsp; Looking forward to it!<br>
<br>
-Bjorn Aannestad<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">We want to highlight SCIM at the 2013 Cloud Identity Summ=
it (CIS). Anyone interested in participating in the 1.1 interop?</span><o:p=
></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">We&#8217;ll scope the interop in the coming weeks.</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p>
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sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">CIS will be in Napa, CA from July 8 to July 12. The inter=
op will occur on Monday July 8 or Tuesday July 9 (most likely, it will be t=
he former).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">Thanks so much, and I look forward to hearing from you. C=
an you please let me know &#8220;yes&#8221; or &#8220;maybe&#8221; by next =
Monday (April 8)?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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sans-serif&quot;">Mark Diodati
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">Co-Chair&#8212;Cloud Identity Summit</span><o:p></o:p></p=
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I agree with everything in the proposal except for one thing:

  Queries MAY be performed against a SCIM:
  <list>
    <t>Resource (e.g. /Users/{userid}),</t>
    <t>Resource Type endpoint (e.g. /Users or /Groups), or</t>
    <t>Server Root (e.g. /).</t>
  </list>

IMO querying against the server root should be optional and that SP's shoul=
d declare support in ServiceProviderConfig.  For directory-backed datastore=
s, this will be easy to support.  However, if the SP is using a relational =
database backed datastore, this could be difficult to implement in a way th=
at scales.

--Kelly

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Folks,

At Orlando we polled the room and there was clear consensus for closing
25 as suggested in the issue tracker.

This email serves as a confirmation for that consensus call - speak up now =
if you disagree.

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On 04/11/2013 06:08 PM, Kelly Grizzle wrote:
> I agree with everything in the proposal except for one thing:
>
>   Queries MAY be performed against a SCIM:
>   <list>
>     <t>Resource (e.g. /Users/{userid}),</t>
>     <t>Resource Type endpoint (e.g. /Users or /Groups), or</t>
>     <t>Server Root (e.g. /).</t>
>   </list>
>
> IMO querying against the server root should be optional and that SP's should declare support in ServiceProviderConfig.  For directory-backed datastores, this will be easy to support.  However, if the SP is using a relational database backed datastore, this could be difficult to implement in a way that scales.
I suggest you update the ticket so that the proposal is clear - I
believe this was
already covered in Orlando though.
>
> --Kelly
>
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> Subject: [scim] Issue#25 consensus call
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> Folks,
>
> At Orlando we polled the room and there was clear consensus for closing
> 25 as suggested in the issue tracker.
>
> This email serves as a confirmation for that consensus call - speak up now if you disagree.
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Yes, I presented root search as optional. In the particular section below I w=
as attempting to make clear what are now valid queries. However it missed th=
e issue of whether the server supports it.=20

Phil

On 2013-04-11, at 9:19, Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se> wrote:

> On 04/11/2013 06:08 PM, Kelly Grizzle wrote:
>> I agree with everything in the proposal except for one thing:
>>=20
>>  Queries MAY be performed against a SCIM:
>>  <list>
>>    <t>Resource (e.g. /Users/{userid}),</t>
>>    <t>Resource Type endpoint (e.g. /Users or /Groups), or</t>
>>    <t>Server Root (e.g. /).</t>
>>  </list>
>>=20
>> IMO querying against the server root should be optional and that SP's sho=
uld declare support in ServiceProviderConfig.  For directory-backed datastor=
es, this will be easy to support.  However, if the SP is using a relational d=
atabase backed datastore, this could be difficult to implement in a way that=
 scales.
> I suggest you update the ticket so that the proposal is clear - I
> believe this was
> already covered in Orlando though.
>>=20
>> --Kelly
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: scim-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L=
eif Johansson
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:26 PM
>> To: scim WG
>> Subject: [scim] Issue#25 consensus call
>>=20
>>=20
>> Folks,
>>=20
>> At Orlando we polled the room and there was clear consensus for closing
>> 25 as suggested in the issue tracker.
>>=20
>> This email serves as a confirmation for that consensus call - speak up no=
w if you disagree.
>>=20
>>        Leif & Morteza
>> _______________________________________________
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Would appreciate if it would be possible to participate remotely. Not as ea=
sy as being on site, but if some servers are public we at Technology Nexus =
can always fire away some Resources.
/ Erik


On Apr 11, 2013, at 1:10 AM, Anthony Nadalin wrote:

The details are pretty vague and would have to understand the scenarios and=
 the IPR (if any) before we would commit to be there

From: scim-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:scim-boun=
ces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Morteza Ansari (moransar)
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Cisco will also join in.


Cheers,
Morteza

From: Kelly Grizzle <kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com<mailto:kelly.grizzle@sailp=
oint.com>>
Date: Thursday, April 4, 2013 11:19 AM
To: Bjorn Aannestad <bjorn.aannestad@unboundid.com<mailto:bjorn.aannestad@u=
nboundid.com>>, "scim@ietf.org<mailto:scim@ietf.org>" <scim@ietf.org<mailto=
:scim@ietf.org>>
Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM 1.1 Interop at 2013 Cloud Identity Summit

You can count SailPoint in!

--Kelly

From: scim-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:scim-boun=
ces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bjorn Aannestad
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Yes, UnboundID will be there and will participate.  Looking forward to it!

-Bjorn Aannestad


On 2013-04-03 3:17 PM, Mark Diodati wrote:
Hi All,

We want to highlight SCIM at the 2013 Cloud Identity Summit (CIS). Anyone i=
nterested in participating in the 1.1 interop?

We=92ll scope the interop in the coming weeks.

CIS will be in Napa, CA from July 8 to July 12. The interop will occur on M=
onday July 8 or Tuesday July 9 (most likely, it will be the former).

Thanks so much, and I look forward to hearing from you. Can you please let =
me know =93yes=94 or =93maybe=94 by next Monday (April 8)?

Best,

Mark Diodati
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bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
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<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>
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bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
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<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; ">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
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<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; ">Morteza<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
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<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>
</div>
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eft-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-s=
tyle: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; p=
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<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<b>From:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Kelly Grizzl=
e &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; ">kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Thursday, Ap=
ril 4, 2013 11:19 AM<br>
<b>To:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Bjorn Aannesta=
d &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bjorn.aannestad@unboundid.com" style=3D"color: blue=
; text-decoration: underline; ">bjorn.aannestad@unboundid.com</a>&gt;, &quo=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:scim@ietf.org" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: u=
nderline; ">scim@ietf.org</a>&quot;
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:scim@ietf.org" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration=
: underline; ">scim@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Re: [scim=
] SCIM 1.1 Interop at 2013 Cloud Identity Summit<o:p></o:p></div>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
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<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div>
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bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">You can count SailPoint in!</span=
><o:p></o:p></div>
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bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
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<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">--Kelly</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-l=
eft-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-s=
tyle: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; p=
adding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in=
; ">
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: =
windowtext; ">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-spa=
ce">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org" style=3D"color: b=
lue; text-decoration: underline; ">scim-bounces@ietf.org</a><span class=3D"=
Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[<a href=3D"mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.or=
g" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:scim-bounces@=
ietf.org</a>]<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On
 Behalf Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Bjorn Aann=
estad<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Thursday, Ap=
ril 04, 2013 1:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mai=
lto:scim@ietf.org" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">scim=
@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [scim=
] SCIM 1.1 Interop at 2013 Cloud Identity Summit</span><o:p></o:p></div>
</div>
</div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-=
left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans=
-serif; color: black; ">
Yes, UnboundID will be there and will participate.&nbsp; Looking forward to=
 it!<br>
<br>
-Bjorn Aannestad<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
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On 2013-04-03 3:17 PM, Mark Diodati wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; ">
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Hi All,</span><o:p></o:p>=
</div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p><=
/div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">We want to highlight SCIM=
 at the 2013 Cloud Identity Summit (CIS). Anyone interested in participatin=
g in the 1.1 interop?</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p><=
/div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">We=92ll scope the interop=
 in the coming weeks.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p><=
/div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">CIS will be in Napa, CA f=
rom July 8 to July 12. The interop will occur on Monday July 8 or Tuesday J=
uly 9 (most likely, it will be the former).</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p><=
/div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Thanks so much, and I loo=
k forward to hearing from you. Can you please let me know =93yes=94 or =93m=
aybe=94 by next Monday (April 8)?</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p><=
/div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></=
div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p><=
/div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Mark Diodati</span><o:p><=
/o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Co-Chair=97Cloud Identity=
 Summit</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
 black; ">
<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b=
r>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<pre style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; color: black=
; ">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; color: black=
; ">scim mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-=
bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; color: black=
; "><a href=3D"mailto:scim@ietf.org" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration:=
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bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; color: black=
; "><a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline; ">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/s=
cim</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:=
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">&n=
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_______________________________________________<br>
scim mailing list<br>
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	Title           : System for Cross-Domain Identity Management:Protocol
	Author(s)       : Trey Drake
                          Chuck Mortimore
                          Morteza Ansari
                          Kelly Grizzle
                          Erik Wahlstroem
	Filename        : draft-ietf-scim-api-01.txt
	Pages           : 53
	Date            : 2013-04-15

Abstract:
   The System for Cross-Domain Identity Management (SCIM) specification
   is designed to make managing user identity in cloud based
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   build upon experience with existing schemas and deployments, placing
   specific emphasis on simplicity of development and integration, while
   applying existing authentication, authorization, and privacy models.
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   operations by providing a common user schema and extension model, as
   well as binding documents to provide patterns for exchanging this
   schema using standard protocols.  In essence, make it fast, cheap,
   and easy to move users in to, out of, and around the cloud.


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	Title           : System for Cross-Domain Identity Management: Core Schema
	Author(s)       : Chuck Mortimore
                          Patrick Harding
                          Paul Madsen
                          Trey Drake
	Filename        : draft-ietf-scim-core-schema-01.txt
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	Date            : 2013-04-15

Abstract:
   The System for Cross-Domain Identity Management (SCIM) specification
   is designed to make managing user identity in cloud based
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   upon experience with existing schemas and deployments, placing
   specific emphasis on simplicity of development and integration, while
   applying existing authentication, authorization, and privacy models.
   Its intent is to reduce the cost and complexity of user management
   operations by providing a common user schema and extension model, as
   well as binding documents to provide patterns for exchanging this
   schema using standard protocols.  In essence, make it fast, cheap,
   and easy to move identity in to, out of, and around the cloud.

   This document provides a platform neutral schema and extension model
   for representing users and groups in JSON format.  This schema is
   intended for exchange and use with cloud service providers.
   Additional binding documents provide a standard REST API, SAML
   binding, and use cases.


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New schema and API drafts have been uploaded.  These contain the following =
changes:

Issue #25: Add ability to retrieve a resource without including the type in=
 the URL
Issue #27: Remove support for XML
Issue #28: Clarify the spec on multi-tenancy
Issue #29: Support for Non-URL Based Search
Issue #33: Formalize support for references in the schema

Please review the drafts and send any comments to the list. =20

Thanks,
--Kelly


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.
 This draft is a work item of the System for Cross-domain Identity Manageme=
nt Working Group of the IETF.

	Title           : System for Cross-Domain Identity Management:Protocol
	Author(s)       : Trey Drake
                          Chuck Mortimore
                          Morteza Ansari
                          Kelly Grizzle
                          Erik Wahlstroem
	Filename        : draft-ietf-scim-api-01.txt
	Pages           : 53
	Date            : 2013-04-15

Abstract:
   The System for Cross-Domain Identity Management (SCIM) specification
   is designed to make managing user identity in cloud based
   applications and services easier.  The specification suite seeks to
   build upon experience with existing schemas and deployments, placing
   specific emphasis on simplicity of development and integration, while
   applying existing authentication, authorization, and privacy models.
   It's intent is to reduce the cost and complexity of user management
   operations by providing a common user schema and extension model, as
   well as binding documents to provide patterns for exchanging this
   schema using standard protocols.  In essence, make it fast, cheap,
   and easy to move users in to, out of, and around the cloud.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-scim-api

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-scim-api-01

A diff from the previous version is available at:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-scim-api-01


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Hello SCIM list

I am new to this list so please forgive me as I just finding my way. I 
am not yet sure how these matters get discussed.

Issue 25 seems to be an extremely sensible change.

I am unclear on issue 28 - Multi tenancy is one of the defining factors 
that distinguishes a cloud based solution from a hosted solution, is the 
intention to further explore the security considerations or instead just 
not give any specification in this area, my concern would be that there 
will be multi tenant solutions and unless the specification is at least 
prescriptive to some degree this will be an area which will pose greater 
risks to security if implementers go ahead and muddle on to create their 
own solution.

An example of a multi tennant solution imagine a solution where a cloud 
based identity server presents a SCIM interface to some other cloud 
based service which does not have a readily accessible API.

Alex Redston

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    Hello SCIM list<br>
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    I am new to this list so please forgive me as I just finding my way.
    I am not yet sure how these matters get discussed.<br>
    <br>
    Issue 25 seems to be an extremely sensible change.<br>
    <br>
    I am unclear on issue 28 - Multi tenancy is one of the defining
    factors that distinguishes a cloud based solution from a hosted
    solution, is the intention to further explore the security
    considerations or instead just not give any specification in this
    area, my concern would be that there will be multi tenant solutions
    and unless the specification is at least prescriptive to some degree
    this will be an area which will pose greater risks to security if
    implementers go ahead and muddle on to create their own solution. <br>
    <br>
    An example of a multi tennant solution imagine a solution where a
    cloud based identity server presents a SCIM interface to some other
    cloud based service which does not have a readily accessible API.<br>
    <br>
    Alex Redston<br>
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FYI - I just changed the title. I looked at the tracker this morning and =
found the title unclear.

I suspect the resolution to this ticket would be a separate optional =
draft.  It would be most likely used by application developers who need =
to be able to deploy SCIM schema extensions to multiple service =
providers.   Currently the only way to do schema extensions on a server, =
would be to use each implementors different method for manage schema =
changes (usually by hand through a UI).


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On 2013-04-19, at 8:52 AM, scim issue tracker wrote:

> #40: JSON Format For Defining A Set of SCIM Schema Extensions
>=20
>=20
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> Keywords:  schema       |
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Hi Alex ... thanks for the feedback.

> is the intention to further explore the security considerations or instea=
d just not give any specification in this area

The idea is to just give some alternatives for service providers to conside=
r when implementing multi-tenancy.  This section is really more informative=
 than it is prescriptive.  Service providers may choose to implement multi-=
tenancy in other ways as well.

> my concern would be that there will be multi tenant solutions and unless =
the specification is at least prescriptive to some degree this will be an a=
rea which will pose greater risks to security if implementers go ahead and =
muddle on to create their own solution.

When we first started discussing multi-tenancy, it became apparent that man=
y of the service providers have different ways that they want to implement =
this.  Instead of SCIM dictating a method (and all of the implications that=
 come with that particular method), we chose to leave it out of the spec an=
d just provide some general guidance.  We've actually discussed creating an=
other document (outside of SCIM) that addresses multi-tenancy for many of t=
he IETF I-Ds that have to deal with this.

Do you have suggestions for text that we can add to address some of the sec=
urity considerations that you foresee?

--Kelly

From: scim-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:scim-boun=
ces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alex Redston
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 3:03 AM
To: scim@ietf.org<mailto:scim@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [scim] PLEASE REVIEW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-scim-api-01.txt

Hello SCIM list

I am new to this list so please forgive me as I just finding my way. I am n=
ot yet sure how these matters get discussed.

Issue 25 seems to be an extremely sensible change.

I am unclear on issue 28 - Multi tenancy is one of the defining factors tha=
t distinguishes a cloud based solution from a hosted solution, is the inten=
tion to further explore the security considerations or instead just not giv=
e any specification in this area, my concern would be that there will be mu=
lti tenant solutions and unless the specification is at least prescriptive =
to some degree this will be an area which will pose greater risks to securi=
ty if implementers go ahead and muddle on to create their own solution.

An example of a multi tennant solution imagine a solution where a cloud bas=
ed identity server presents a SCIM interface to some other cloud based serv=
ice which does not have a readily accessible API.

Alex Redston

On issue
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</span>is the intention to further explore the security considerations or i=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The idea is to just give =
some alternatives for service providers to consider when implementing multi=
-tenancy.&nbsp; This section is really more informative than
 it is prescriptive.&nbsp; Service providers may choose to implement multi-=
tenancy in other ways as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&gt;
</span>my concern would be that there will be multi tenant solutions and un=
less the specification is at least prescriptive to some degree this will be=
 an area which will pose greater risks to security if implementers go ahead=
 and muddle on to create their own
 solution.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">When we first started dis=
cussing multi-tenancy, it became apparent that many of the service provider=
s have different ways that they want to implement this.&nbsp;
 Instead of SCIM dictating a method (and all of the implications that come =
with that particular method), we chose to leave it out of the spec and just=
 provide some general guidance.&nbsp; We&#8217;ve actually discussed creati=
ng another document (outside of SCIM) that
 addresses multi-tenancy for many of the IETF I-Ds that have to deal with t=
his.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Do you have suggestions f=
or text that we can add to address some of the security considerations that=
 you foresee?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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I am new to this list so please forgive me as I just finding my way. I am n=
ot yet sure how these matters get discussed.<br>
<br>
Issue 25 seems to be an extremely sensible change.<br>
<br>
I am unclear on issue 28 - Multi tenancy is one of the defining factors tha=
t distinguishes a cloud based solution from a hosted solution, is the inten=
tion to further explore the security considerations or instead just not giv=
e any specification in this area,
 my concern would be that there will be multi tenant solutions and unless t=
he specification is at least prescriptive to some degree this will be an ar=
ea which will pose greater risks to security if implementers go ahead and m=
uddle on to create their own solution.
<br>
<br>
An example of a multi tennant solution imagine a solution where a cloud bas=
ed identity server presents a SCIM interface to some other cloud based serv=
ice which does not have a readily accessible API.<br>
<br>
Alex Redston<br>
<br>
On issue <o:p></o:p></p>
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We are researchers from different parts of the world and conducted a study on  
the world’s biggest bogus computer science conference WORLDCOMP 
( http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 ) organized by Prof. Hamid Arabnia 
from University of Georgia, USA.


We submitted a fake paper to WORLDCOMP 2011 and again (the same paper 
with a modified title) to WORLDCOMP 2012. This paper had numerous 
fundamental mistakes. Sample statements from that paper include: 

(1). Binary logic is fuzzy logic and vice versa
(2). Pascal developed fuzzy logic
(3). Object oriented languages do not exhibit any polymorphism or inheritance
(4). TCP and IP are synonyms and are part of OSI model 
(5). Distributed systems deal with only one computer
(6). Laptop is an example for a super computer
(7). Operating system is an example for computer hardware


Also, our paper did not express any conceptual meaning.  However, it 
was accepted both the times without any modifications (and without 
any reviews) and we were invited to submit the final paper and a 
payment of $500+ fee to present the paper. We decided to use the 
fee for better purposes than making Prof. Hamid Arabnia (Chairman 
of WORLDCOMP) rich. After that, we received few reminders from 
WORLDCOMP to pay the fee but we never responded. 


We MUST say that you should look at the above website if you have any thoughts 
to submit a paper to WORLDCOMP.  DBLP and other indexing agencies have stopped 
indexing WORLDCOMP’s proceedings since 2011 due to its fakeness. See 
http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/conf/icai/index.html for of one of the 
conferences of WORLDCOMP and notice that there is no listing after 2010. See Section 2 of
http://sites.google.com/site/dumpconf for comments from well-known researchers 
about WORLDCOMP. 


The status of your WORLDCOMP papers can be changed from scientific
to other (i.e., junk or non-technical) at any time. Better not to have a paper than 
having it in WORLDCOMP and spoil the resume and peace of mind forever!


Our study revealed that WORLDCOMP is a money making business, 
using University of Georgia mask, for Prof. Hamid Arabnia. He is throwing 
out a small chunk of that money (around 20 dollars per paper published 
in WORLDCOMP’s proceedings) to his puppet (Mr. Ashu Solo or A.M.G. Solo) 
who publicizes WORLDCOMP and also defends it at various forums, using 
fake/anonymous names. The puppet uses fake names and defames other conferences
to divert traffic to WORLDCOMP. He also makes anonymous phone calls and tries to 
threaten the critiques of WORLDCOMP (See Item 7 of Section 5 of above website). 
That is, the puppet does all his best to get a maximum number of papers published 
at WORLDCOMP to get more money into his (and Prof. Hamid Arabnia’s) pockets. 


Monte Carlo Resort (the venue of WORLDCOMP for more than 10 years, until 2012) has 
refused to provide the venue for WORLDCOMP’13 because of the fears of their image 
being tarnished due to WORLDCOMP’s fraudulent activities. That is why WORLDCOMP’13 
is taking place at a different resort. WORLDCOMP will not be held after 2013. 


The draft paper submission deadline is over but still there are no committee 
members, no reviewers, and there is no conference Chairman. The only contact 
details available on WORLDCOMP’s website is just an email address! 

Let us make a direct request to Prof. Hamid arabnia: publish all reviews for 
all the papers (after blocking identifiable details) since 2000 conference. Reveal 
the names and affiliations of all the reviewers (for each year) and how many 
papers each reviewer had reviewed on average. We also request him to look at 
the Open Challenge (Section 6) at https://sites.google.com/site/moneycomp1 


Sorry for posting to multiple lists. Spreading the word is the only way to stop 
this bogus conference. Please forward this message to other mailing lists and people. 


We are shocked with Prof. Hamid Arabnia and his puppet’s activities 
http://worldcomp-fake-bogus.blogspot.com   Search Google using the 
keyword worldcomp fake for additional links.

