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There are a couple of locations in the SCIM-API examples where the older =
response attribute =E2=80=9Ccode=E2=80=9D was used and should be made =
consistent with the normative text.  Per the text in 3.12 and in the =
Bulk status 3.7, all examples should simply have a =E2=80=9Cstatus=E2=80=9D=
 attribute and an http status value.

On Page 46
  s/=E2=80=9Ccode=E2=80=9D:=E2=80=9D404=E2=80=9D/=E2=80=9Cstatus=E2=80=9D:=
=E2=80=9D404=E2=80=9D

On Page 53

The example:=20
> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>    Content-Type: application/json
>=20
>    {
>      "schemas": =
["urn:ietf:params:scim:api:messages:2.0:BulkResponse"],
>      "Operations": [
>        {
>          "location":
>    =
"https://example.com/v2/Users/92b725cd-9465-4e7d-8c16-01f8e146b87a",
>          "method": "POST",
>          "bulkId": "qwerty",
>          "version": "W\/\"4weymrEsh5O6cAEK\"",
>          "status": {
>            "code": "201"
>          }
>        },
>        {
>          "location":
>    =
"https://example.com/v2/Groups/e9e30dba-f08f-4109-8486-d5c6a331660a",
>          "method": "POST",
>          "bulkId": "ytrewq",
>          "version": "W\/\"lha5bbazU3fNvfe5\"",
>          "status": {
>            "code": "201"
>          }
>        }
>      ]
>    }

Should be:

> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>    Content-Type: application/json
>=20
>    {
>      "schemas": =
["urn:ietf:params:scim:api:messages:2.0:BulkResponse"],
>      "Operations": [
>        {
>          "location":
>    =
"https://example.com/v2/Users/92b725cd-9465-4e7d-8c16-01f8e146b87a",
>          "method": "POST",
>          "bulkId": "qwerty",
>          "version": "W\/\"4weymrEsh5O6cAEK\"",
>          "status=E2=80=9D: "201"
>        },
>        {
>          "location":
>    =
"https://example.com/v2/Groups/e9e30dba-f08f-4109-8486-d5c6a331660a",
>          "method": "POST",
>          "bulkId": "ytrewq",
>          "version": "W\/\"lha5bbazU3fNvfe5\"",
>          "status": "201"
>        }
>      ]
>    }


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class=3D""><div class=3D"">There are a couple of locations in the =
SCIM-API examples where the older response attribute =E2=80=9Ccode=E2=80=9D=
 was used and should be made consistent with the normative text. =
&nbsp;Per the text in 3.12 and in the Bulk status 3.7, all examples =
should simply have a =E2=80=9Cstatus=E2=80=9D attribute and an http =
status value.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>On Page 46<div =
class=3D"">&nbsp; =
s/=E2=80=9Ccode=E2=80=9D:=E2=80=9D404=E2=80=9D/=E2=80=9Cstatus=E2=80=9D:=E2=
=80=9D404=E2=80=9D</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">On Page 53</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">The example:&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><pre class=3D"newpage" style=3D"font-size: =
13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; page-break-before: =
always;">HTTP/1.1 200 OK
   Content-Type: application/json

   {
     "schemas": ["urn:ietf:params:scim:api:messages:2.0:BulkResponse"],
     "Operations": [
       {
         "location":
   "<a =
href=3D"https://example.com/v2/Users/92b725cd-9465-4e7d-8c16-01f8e146b87a"=
 =
class=3D"">https://example.com/v2/Users/92b725cd-9465-4e7d-8c16-01f8e146b8=
7a</a>",
         "method": "POST",
         "bulkId": "qwerty",
         "version": "W\/\"4weymrEsh5O6cAEK\"",
         <b class=3D"">"status": {
           "code": "201"
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       },
       {
         "location":
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href=3D"https://example.com/v2/Groups/e9e30dba-f08f-4109-8486-d5c6a331660a=
" =
class=3D"">https://example.com/v2/Groups/e9e30dba-f08f-4109-8486-d5c6a3316=
60a</a>",
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         "version": "W\/\"lha5bbazU3fNvfe5\"",
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           "code": "201"
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class=3D"">Should be:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><pre class=3D"newpage" =
style=3D"font-size: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
page-break-before: always;">HTTP/1.1 200 OK
   Content-Type: application/json

   {
     "schemas": ["urn:ietf:params:scim:api:messages:2.0:BulkResponse"],
     "Operations": [
       {
         "location":
   "<a =
href=3D"https://example.com/v2/Users/92b725cd-9465-4e7d-8c16-01f8e146b87a"=
 =
class=3D"">https://example.com/v2/Users/92b725cd-9465-4e7d-8c16-01f8e146b8=
7a</a>",
         "method": "POST",
         "bulkId": "qwerty",
         "version": "W\/\"4weymrEsh5O6cAEK\"",
         <b class=3D"">"status=E2=80=9D: "201"</b>
       },
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         "location":
   "<a =
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" =
class=3D"">https://example.com/v2/Groups/e9e30dba-f08f-4109-8486-d5c6a3316=
60a</a>",
         "method": "POST",
         "bulkId": "ytrewq",
         "version": "W\/\"lha5bbazU3fNvfe5\"",
         <b class=3D"">"status": "201"</b>
       }
     ]
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At the last IETF meeting we discussed briefly the idea of password =
policy and management.

The conversation branched out into the wider topic of credential =
management. I think this is a really good idea. Frankly, password =
management is hopefully soon a dead topic.  :-)

In advance of the next meeting maybe it would be good to get some =
requirements, use cases together at least informally?

For example, in addition to simply registering a public key for a User =
(or a client application), are there workflow issues with binding a key =
to a User (or an application or device)?  Do we want to also define =
common policy for items like algorithms, key rotation / expiry, etc?

I think its worth looking into OIDC and some of the various credential =
work they have started defining in the OAuth world.  It may also be =
worth looking at service provider stateful requirements for FIDO =
credentials.  Are there any?

Finally, given that there are credentials for more than just Users, we =
may need to first define some core schema for devices, applications, =
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class=3D"">At the last IETF meeting we discussed briefly the idea of =
password policy and management.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">The conversation branched out into the wider topic of =
credential management. I think this is a really good idea. Frankly, =
password management is hopefully soon a dead topic. &nbsp;:-)</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">In advance of the next =
meeting maybe it would be good to get some requirements, use cases =
together at least informally?</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">For example, in addition to simply =
registering a public key for a User (or a client application), are there =
workflow issues with binding a key to a User (or an application or =
device)? &nbsp;Do we want to also define common policy for items like =
algorithms, key rotation / expiry, etc?</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I think its worth looking into OIDC and =
some of the various credential work they have started defining in the =
OAuth world. &nbsp;It may also be worth looking at service provider =
stateful requirements for FIDO credentials. &nbsp;Are there =
any?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Finally, =
given that there are credentials for more than just Users, we may need =
to first define some core schema for devices, applications, =
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In a lot of cases the client will hold the key and key generation ability, =
so basically the server would only be involved in registering/de-registerin=
g the key, it may also have to find the key to do the verification. I don't=
 consider keys used for authentication to be credentials.

From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 12:00 PM
To: SCIM WG <scim@ietf.org>
Subject: [scim] Credential Management - time to discuss?

At the last IETF meeting we discussed briefly the idea of password policy a=
nd management.

The conversation branched out into the wider topic of credential management=
. I think this is a really good idea. Frankly, password management is hopef=
ully soon a dead topic.  :-)

In advance of the next meeting maybe it would be good to get some requireme=
nts, use cases together at least informally?

For example, in addition to simply registering a public key for a User (or =
a client application), are there workflow issues with binding a key to a Us=
er (or an application or device)?  Do we want to also define common policy =
for items like algorithms, key rotation / expiry, etc?

I think its worth looking into OIDC and some of the various credential work=
 they have started defining in the OAuth world.  It may also be worth looki=
ng at service provider stateful requirements for FIDO credentials.  Are the=
re any?

Finally, given that there are credentials for more than just Users, we may =
need to first define some core schema for devices, applications, etc.

Phil

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Hi

At neXus one of the key credentials is cards (Visual, RFID, magstripe, NFC,
Smart cards, etc), here we see a big need for provisioning the card
information out to different PACS (Physical Access Systems), managing
representation,  and also in the automated ordering process.
For issuance of the cards there is always a lot of workflows in action and
then there is the actual representation of the card, a normal card often
needs a lot of details since it can be used to interact with multiple
systems. e.g. we need to at least store the following information about a
card
* Issued date
* Expire data (to send renewal reminders etc)
* Image of the card (for easy administration)
* Type of card (permanent, temporary, contractor etc.)
* Certificates stored on the card (including key archiving reference)
* RFID number (pushed to PACS:es)
* Card PIN (pushed to PACS:es)
* Card PUK or admin key (for unblocking smart cards)

There is probably more that I did not think about now, however with this
said I think this this would be a good initiative.

We also soft token management of different kinds where it could be useful
e.g as mention lifespan of credentials.

Best Regards
//Samuel Erdtman



On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:06 PM, Anthony Nadalin <tonynad@microsoft.com>
wrote:

>  In a lot of cases the client will hold the key and key generation
> ability, so basically the server would only be involved in
> registering/de-registering the key, it may also have to find the key to d=
o
> the verification. I don=E2=80=99t consider keys used for authentication t=
o be
> credentials.
>
>
>
> *From:* scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Phil Hunt
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2015 12:00 PM
> *To:* SCIM WG <scim@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* [scim] Credential Management - time to discuss?
>
>
>
> At the last IETF meeting we discussed briefly the idea of password policy
> and management.
>
>
>
> The conversation branched out into the wider topic of credential
> management. I think this is a really good idea. Frankly, password
> management is hopefully soon a dead topic.  :-)
>
>
>
> In advance of the next meeting maybe it would be good to get some
> requirements, use cases together at least informally?
>
>
>
> For example, in addition to simply registering a public key for a User (o=
r
> a client application), are there workflow issues with binding a key to a
> User (or an application or device)?  Do we want to also define common
> policy for items like algorithms, key rotation / expiry, etc?
>
>
>
> I think its worth looking into OIDC and some of the various credential
> work they have started defining in the OAuth world.  It may also be worth
> looking at service provider stateful requirements for FIDO credentials.
> Are there any?
>
>
>
> Finally, given that there are credentials for more than just Users, we ma=
y
> need to first define some core schema for devices, applications, etc.
>
>
>
> Phil
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>
>
> @independentid
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi<div><br></div><div>At neXus one of the key credentials =
is cards (Visual, RFID, magstripe, NFC, Smart cards, etc), here we see a bi=
g need for provisioning the card information out to different PACS (Physica=
l Access Systems), managing representation, =C2=A0and also in the automated=
 ordering process.</div><div>For issuance of the cards there is always a lo=
t of workflows in action and then there is the actual representation of the=
 card, a normal card often needs a lot of details since it can be used to i=
nteract with multiple systems. e.g. we need to at least store the following=
 information about a card</div><div>* Issued date</div><div>* Expire data (=
to send renewal reminders etc)</div><div>* Image of the card (for easy admi=
nistration)</div><div>* Type of card (permanent, temporary, contractor etc.=
)</div><div>* Certificates stored on the card (including key archiving refe=
rence)</div><div>* RFID number (pushed to PACS:es)</div><div>* Card PIN (pu=
shed to PACS:es)</div><div>* Card PUK or admin key (for unblocking smart ca=
rds)</div><div><br></div><div>There is probably more that I did not think a=
bout now, however with this said I think this this would be a good initiati=
ve.</div><div><br></div><div>We also soft token management of different kin=
ds where it could be useful e.g as mention lifespan of credentials.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Best Regards</div><div>//Samuel Erdtman</div><div><br></d=
iv><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:06 PM, Anthony Nadalin <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:tonynad@microsoft.com" target=3D"_blank">tonynad@micros=
oft.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">In a lot of cases the client will hol=
d the key and key generation ability, so basically the server would only be=
 involved in registering/de-registering the key,
 it may also have to find the key to do the verification. I don=E2=80=99t c=
onsider keys used for authentication to be credentials.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"14e6f10253f74108__MailEndCompose"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#=
1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></a></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> scim [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto=
:scim-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">scim-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Hunt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 8, 2015 12:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> SCIM WG &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:scim@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">s=
cim@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [scim] Credential Management - time to discuss?<u></u><u></=
u></span></p>
</div>
</div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">At the last IETF meeting we discussed briefly the id=
ea of password policy and management.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The conversation branched out into the wider topic o=
f credential management. I think this is a really good idea. Frankly, passw=
ord management is hopefully soon a dead topic. =C2=A0:-)<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">In advance of the next meeting maybe it would be goo=
d to get some requirements, use cases together at least informally?<u></u><=
u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">For example, in addition to simply registering a pub=
lic key for a User (or a client application), are there workflow issues wit=
h binding a key to a User (or an application or device)?=C2=A0 Do we want t=
o also define common policy for items like
 algorithms, key rotation / expiry, etc?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I think its worth looking into OIDC and some of the =
various credential work they have started defining in the OAuth world.=C2=
=A0 It may also be worth looking at service provider stateful requirements =
for FIDO credentials.=C2=A0 Are there any?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Finally, given that there are credentials for more t=
han just Users, we may need to first define some core schema for devices, a=
pplications, etc.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Phil<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">@independentid<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a href=3D"http://www.independentid.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">www.independentid.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,san=
s-serif;color:black"><a href=3D"mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">phil.hunt@oracle.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div></div></div>
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Hi all,

I'm sending following request to a SCIM provider.

localhost:9443/wso2/scim/Users?filter=userName+Eq+%22a*a%22

As result should I get only a user with 'a*a' user name or should I get
list of all users who has userNames match the regex 'a*a'?

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m sending foll=
owing request to a SCIM provider.</div><div><br></div><div><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:=
20px">localhost:9443/wso2/scim/Users?filter=3DuserName+Eq+%22a*a%22</span><=
br></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-ser=
if;font-size:14px;line-height:20px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:2=
0px">As result should I get only a user with &#39;a*a&#39; user name or sho=
uld I get list of all users who has userNames match the regex &#39;a*a&#39;=
?</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,san=
s-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px"><br></span></div><div><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-he=
ight:20px">Thank You!</span></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><=
div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><b>Chamila Dilshan Wija=
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reset, etc.  Might be interesting to see if there is overlap and if the =
current SCIM Notify proposal should have some of the events described by =
Andy Nash.

We do have a BarBof planned for credentials. Would anyone like to meet =
up to discuss this some time next week?

Phil

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On 2015-07-16 05:57, Phil Hunt wrote:
> For those that will be at the IETF meeting next week, it occurs to me we
> should follow up on notification events.
> 
> One of the items that was interesting from CIS was the event
> notifications that they were discussing like account take over, password
> reset, etc.  Might be interesting to see if there is overlap and if the
> current SCIM Notify proposal should have some of the events described by
> Andy Nash.
> 
> We do have a BarBof planned for credentials. Would anyone like to meet
> up to discuss this some time next week?

i am

but I'm also interested in finding somebody from the h/2 universe to
include in this discussion


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Agreed

Phil

> On Jul 16, 2015, at 00:56, Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-07-16 05:57, Phil Hunt wrote:
>> For those that will be at the IETF meeting next week, it occurs to me we
>> should follow up on notification events.
>> 
>> One of the items that was interesting from CIS was the event
>> notifications that they were discussing like account take over, password
>> reset, etc.  Might be interesting to see if there is overlap and if the
>> current SCIM Notify proposal should have some of the events described by
>> Andy Nash.
>> 
>> We do have a BarBof planned for credentials. Would anyone like to meet
>> up to discuss this some time next week?
> 
> i am
> 
> but I'm also interested in finding somebody from the h/2 universe to
> include in this discussion
> 
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From: Phil Hunt<mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com>
Sent: =FD7/=FD15/=FD2015 8:57 PM
To: SCIM WG<mailto:scim@ietf.org>
Subject: [scim] Notification events

For those that will be at the IETF meeting next week, it occurs to me we sh=
ould follow up on notification events.

One of the items that was interesting from CIS was the event notifications =
that they were discussing like account take over, password reset, etc.  Mig=
ht be interesting to see if there is overlap and if the current SCIM Notify=
 proposal should have some of the events described by Andy Nash.

We do have a BarBof planned for credentials. Would anyone like to meet up t=
o discuss this some time next week?

Phil

@independentid
www.independentid.com<http://www.independentid.com>
phil.hunt@oracle.com<mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com>


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bold">Subject:
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<div>For those that will be at the IETF meeting next week, it occurs to me =
we should follow up on notification events.
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">One of the items that was interesting from CIS was the even=
t notifications that they were discussing like account take over, password =
reset, etc. &nbsp;Might be interesting to see if there is overlap and if th=
e current SCIM Notify proposal should have
 some of the events described by Andy Nash.</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">We do have a BarBof planned for credentials. Would anyone l=
ike to meet up to discuss this some time next week?</div>
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From: Phil Hunt<mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com>
Sent: ?7/?15/?2015 8:57 PM
To: SCIM WG<mailto:scim@ietf.org>
Subject: [scim] Notification events

For those that will be at the IETF meeting next week, it occurs to me we sh=
ould follow up on notification events.

One of the items that was interesting from CIS was the event notifications =
that they were discussing like account take over, password reset, etc.  Mig=
ht be interesting to see if there is overlap and if the current SCIM Notify=
 proposal should have some of the events described by Andy Nash.

We do have a BarBof planned for credentials. Would anyone like to meet up t=
o discuss this some time next week?

Phil

@independentid
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phil.hunt@oracle.com<mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com>

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] Notification events</span><br>
<br>
</div>
<div>For those that will be at the IETF meeting next week, it occurs to me =
we should follow up on notification events.
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">One of the items that was interesting from CIS was the even=
t notifications that they were discussing like account take over, password =
reset, etc. &nbsp;Might be interesting to see if there is overlap and if th=
e current SCIM Notify proposal should have
 some of the events described by Andy Nash.</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">We do have a BarBof planned for credentials. Would anyone l=
ike to meet up to discuss this some time next week?</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); letter-spacing:normal; orphans:a=
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Reminding and confirming (and, yes, Stephen, I see you're on the list for t=
his):
The last session on Monday ends at 19:50, so let's meet 8:15-ish at
the Prague Beer Museum, Dlouh=C3=A1 46, Prague 1

Barry


On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wro=
te:
>> I think we are set for Monday night. Barry, since you did the homework f=
or
>> bar options, do you want to pick one of them and post the location and
>> time?
>
> Well, let's try hitting the Prague Beer Museum,
> http://www.praguebeermuseum.com/en, and see how our luck is.  Time: 30
> minutes after the end of the last session on Monday.  Have to see when
> that is after the agenda comes out.
>
> Barry


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See you there!

Phil

> On Jul 16, 2015, at 13:38, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:
>=20
> Reminding and confirming (and, yes, Stephen, I see you're on the list for t=
his):
> The last session on Monday ends at 19:50, so let's meet 8:15-ish at
> the Prague Beer Museum, Dlouh=C3=A1 46, Prague 1
>=20
> Barry
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wr=
ote:
>>> I think we are set for Monday night. Barry, since you did the homework f=
or
>>> bar options, do you want to pick one of them and post the location and
>>> time?
>>=20
>> Well, let's try hitting the Prague Beer Museum,
>> http://www.praguebeermuseum.com/en, and see how our luck is.  Time: 30
>> minutes after the end of the last session on Monday.  Have to see when
>> that is after the agenda comes out.
>>=20
>> Barry
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Have one for me!

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
wrote:

> Reminding and confirming (and, yes, Stephen, I see you're on the list for
> this):
> The last session on Monday ends at 19:50, so let's meet 8:15-ish at
> the Prague Beer Museum, Dlouh=C3=A1 46, Prague 1
>
> Barry
>
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
> wrote:
> >> I think we are set for Monday night. Barry, since you did the homework
> for
> >> bar options, do you want to pick one of them and post the location and
> >> time?
> >
> > Well, let's try hitting the Prague Beer Museum,
> > http://www.praguebeermuseum.com/en, and see how our luck is.  Time: 30
> > minutes after the end of the last session on Monday.  Have to see when
> > that is after the agenda comes out.
> >
> > Barry
>
> _______________________________________________
> scim mailing list
> scim@ietf.org
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Have one for me!</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Barry Leiba <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:barryleiba@computer.org" target=3D"_blank">=
barryleiba@computer.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex">Reminding and confirming (and, yes, Stephen, I see you&#39;re on the l=
ist for this):<br>
The last session on Monday ends at 19:50, so let&#39;s meet 8:15-ish at<br>
the Prague Beer Museum, Dlouh=C3=A1 46, Prague 1<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Barry<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Barry Leiba &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:barryle=
iba@computer.org">barryleiba@computer.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; I think we are set for Monday night. Barry, since you did the home=
work for<br>
&gt;&gt; bar options, do you want to pick one of them and post the location=
 and<br>
&gt;&gt; time?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Well, let&#39;s try hitting the Prague Beer Museum,<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.praguebeermuseum.com/en" rel=3D"noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://www.praguebeermuseum.com/en</a>, and see how our luck =
is.=C2=A0 Time: 30<br>
&gt; minutes after the end of the last session on Monday.=C2=A0 Have to see=
 when<br>
&gt; that is after the agenda comes out.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Barry<br>
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I had a few folks ask me about the timing for our bar meeting tonight. So h=
ere is another reminder.

We are meeting at 8:15 tonight at the Prague Beer Museum, Dlouh=E1 46, Prag=
ue 1. Join us if you are around.


Cheers,
Morteza

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<div style=3D"font-family: Consolas;">I had a few folks ask me about the ti=
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