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[62.102.145.131]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id z184sm2528517lfd.41.2016.07.01.13.37.02 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Jul 2016 13:37:02 -0700 (PDT) To: scim@ietf.org References: <57630A75.5050102@mnt.se> <5F70D92F-C9F2-4A04-89C5-E74CB27156D7@oracle.com> <1B483AEC-6201-4506-AD3E-16A012A577FC@oracle.com> From: Leif Johansson Message-ID: <5776D46D.3040207@mnt.se> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:37:01 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [scim] Interop results X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 20:37:11 -0000 On 2016-07-01 18:55, Kelly Grizzle wrote: > Sorry that I missed. Morteza, can we get a solid invite for the next > meeting so that everyone can plan ahead to attend? > > Shouldn't we just talk about this in Berlin? > > > > *From:*scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Ian Glazer > *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:52 PM > *To:* Phil Hunt > *Cc:* Shalini Gupta ; scim@ietf.org WG > > *Subject:* Re: [scim] Interop results > > > > Unfortunately, I cannot make the call today. But I'd still like to keep > pushing forward with the results from the interop. > > > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Phil Hunt > wrote: > > Here is the information I have for today’s call: > > > > External Organizer: Morteza Ansari > > Organizer: Phil Idm Jd Hunt > > ---------------------- > > > > > > > > JOIN WEBEX MEETING > > https://go.webex.com/go/j.php?MTID=m3841121f45ae983ce09f4869e8d70012 > > Meeting number: 345 510 827 > > Meeting password: scim > > > > > > JOIN FROM A VIDEO CONFERENCING SYSTEM OR APPLICATION > > Dial sip:345510827@go.webex.com > > > > > > JOIN BY PHONE > > 1-877-668-4488 US Toll Free > > +1-415-655-0000 US Toll > > Access code: 345 510 827 > > > > Global call-in numbers: > > https://go.webex.com/go/globalcallin.php?serviceType=MC&ED=181760987&tollFree=1 > > > > Toll-free dialing restrictions: > > https://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf > > > > > > > > Can't join the meeting? Contact support here: > > https://go.webex.com/go/mc > > > > Phil > > > > @independentid > > www.independentid.com > > phil.hunt@oracle.com > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 30, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Phil Hunt (IDM) > > wrote: > > > > Morteza, Leif? > > > > I am available for the call. > > > > Some of these items are enhancements and should just go on the > list as possible new future drafts. > > > > We still need to follow up on interop items that should be > addressed as errata. > > > > I have to confess, versioning is a big problem in the rest > community. When an api is proprietary(ie specific) it does not > matter much. Standard profiles of http like scim do have the > issue of differentiating between protocol, schema, and > implementation or product versioning. For scim, the path version > reflects the protocol (ie 2) and schema versioning is in the > schema uri. > > > > Implementers are free to specify an additional attribute in > service provider config though we have not made this standard. I > do not think this matters much since there no interop issues on > product versions. > > > > Phil > > > On Jun 30, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Shalini Gupta > > wrote: > > Sorry, could not join the last meeting as I was traveling > back to India. > > Are we meeting today? Can somebody please forward the invite.. > > > > There are other items as well which I also mentioned in the > CIS Interop, that we should address in the SCIM spec: > > * Adding scim version in ServiceProviderConfig > * Dealing with data transfer on deletes > * Crisply defining roles and entitlements > * Adding cardinality for multivalued attributes > * Issues around delete > * Handling license assignments > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Ian Glazer > > wrote: > > Sorry I missed the meeting yesterday; I do hope we can > resend the meeting invite. > > > > I think the squishy items include: > > * PATCH implementation practices > > * Appropriate response when GET'ing a resource but > providing a filter which wouldn't return the resource > > > > However, the more challenging areas that aren't covered > by extensions such as Soft Delete are: > > * Adding cardinality to Schema > > * Enriching lifecycle state information more than just > isActive > > * Creating an MVP endpoint > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Phil Hunt > > wrote: > > I don’t think we need a bis draft. I believe we’re > talking about some “squishy” points that require > some errata clarification. > > > > Some of these will also need to be reviewed in the > context of: does the issue matter for > interoperability? Some “squishy” areas are > intentional giving implementers freedom. > > > > Phil > > > > @independentid > > www.independentid.com > > phil.hunt@oracle.com > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Leif Johansson > > wrote: > > > > On 2016-06-06 18:19, Ian Glazer wrote: > > All - > > I have placed my interop results deck in the > Results folder > - > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MENZNkdhZdwTo-LvuDs6GNifaK85omitBDTFHvCO1pI > > But for those of you having problems with > access, I have also attached it. > > Great session this morning everyone. I look > forward to tackling the > comments we got from everyone. > > > Is there enough meat here to put together an > implementation report in > the sense of RFC 5657? I am also curious if > there is enough energy > and implementation experience to turn out a > "bis" draft, correcting > bugs and start the draft standard process? > > Cheers Leif > > _______________________________________________ > scim mailing list > scim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim > > > > > _______________________________________________ > scim mailing list > scim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim > > > > > > -- > > Ian Glazer > > Senior Director, Identity > > +1 202 255 3166 > > @iglazer > > > _______________________________________________ > scim mailing list > scim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Shalini > > _______________________________________________ > scim mailing list > scim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim > > _______________________________________________ > scim mailing list > scim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim > > > > > > > > -- > > Ian Glazer > > Senior Director, Identity > > +1 202 255 3166 > > @iglazer > > > > _______________________________________________ > scim mailing list > scim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim > From nobody Fri Jul 1 15:18:34 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D23912B015 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:18:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.647 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.647 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ER8Ccsh0PORQ for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (userp1040.oracle.com [156.151.31.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9455012B00F for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u61MIPVj010799 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:18:28 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u61MIObR001675 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:18:25 GMT Received: from abhmp0006.oracle.com (abhmp0006.oracle.com [141.146.116.12]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u61MIM38032062; Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:18:24 GMT Received: from [172.16.0.21] (/192.81.66.135) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 15:18:21 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: "Phil Hunt (IDM)" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13F69) In-Reply-To: <5776D46D.3040207@mnt.se> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 15:18:16 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <37670605-D0F0-4944-B2B7-373E98A64CAF@oracle.com> References: <57630A75.5050102@mnt.se> <5F70D92F-C9F2-4A04-89C5-E74CB27156D7@oracle.com> <1B483AEC-6201-4506-AD3E-16A012A577FC@oracle.com> <5776D46D.3040207@mnt.se> To: Leif Johansson X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] Archived-At: Cc: scim@ietf.org Subject: Re: [scim] Interop results X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 22:18:32 -0000 Unfortunately, I think many won't make it to Berlin. Myself included. :-( Phil > On Jul 1, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: >=20 >> On 2016-07-01 18:55, Kelly Grizzle wrote: >> Sorry that I missed. Morteza, can we get a solid invite for the next >> meeting so that everyone can plan ahead to attend? >=20 > Shouldn't we just talk about this in Berlin? >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> *From:*scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Ian Glazer >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:52 PM >> *To:* Phil Hunt >> *Cc:* Shalini Gupta ; scim@ietf.org WG >> >> *Subject:* Re: [scim] Interop results >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Unfortunately, I cannot make the call today. But I'd still like to keep >> pushing forward with the results from the interop. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Phil Hunt > > wrote: >>=20 >> Here is the information I have for today=E2=80=99s call: >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> External Organizer: Morteza Ansari >>=20 >> Organizer: Phil Idm Jd Hunt >>=20 >> ---------------------- >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> JOIN WEBEX MEETING >>=20 >> https://go.webex.com/go/j.php?MTID=3Dm3841121f45ae983ce09f4869e8d70012= >>=20 >> Meeting number: 345 510 827 >>=20 >> Meeting password: scim >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> JOIN FROM A VIDEO CONFERENCING SYSTEM OR APPLICATION >>=20 >> Dial sip:345510827@go.webex.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> JOIN BY PHONE >>=20 >> 1-877-668-4488 US Toll Free=20 >>=20 >> +1-415-655-0000 US Toll >>=20 >> Access code: 345 510 827 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Global call-in numbers: >>=20 >> https://go.webex.com/go/globalcallin.php?serviceType=3DMC&ED=3D1817609= 87&tollFree=3D1 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Toll-free dialing restrictions:=20 >>=20 >> https://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Can't join the meeting? Contact support here: >>=20 >> https://go.webex.com/go/mc >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Phil >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> @independentid >>=20 >> www.independentid.com >>=20 >> phil.hunt@oracle.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jun 30, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Phil Hunt (IDM) >> > wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Morteza, Leif? >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I am available for the call.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Some of these items are enhancements and should just go on the >> list as possible new future drafts.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> We still need to follow up on interop items that should be >> addressed as errata.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I have to confess, versioning is a big problem in the rest >> community. When an api is proprietary(ie specific) it does not >> matter much. Standard profiles of http like scim do have the >> issue of differentiating between protocol, schema, and >> implementation or product versioning. For scim, the path version >> reflects the protocol (ie 2) and schema versioning is in the >> schema uri.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Implementers are free to specify an additional attribute in >> service provider config though we have not made this standard. I >> do not think this matters much since there no interop issues on >> product versions.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Phil >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jun 30, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Shalini Gupta >> > wrote: >>=20 >> Sorry, could not join the last meeting as I was traveling >> back to India.=20 >>=20 >> Are we meeting today? Can somebody please forward the invite..= =20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> There are other items as well which I also mentioned in the >> CIS Interop, that we should address in the SCIM spec: >>=20 >> * Adding scim version in ServiceProviderConfig >> * Dealing with data transfer on deletes >> * Crisply defining roles and entitlements >> * Adding cardinality for multivalued attributes >> * Issues around delete >> * Handling license assignments >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Ian Glazer >> > wrote= : >>=20 >> Sorry I missed the meeting yesterday; I do hope we can >> resend the meeting invite. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> I think the squishy items include: >>=20 >> * PATCH implementation practices >>=20 >> * Appropriate response when GET'ing a resource but >> providing a filter which wouldn't return the resource >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> However, the more challenging areas that aren't covered >> by extensions such as Soft Delete are: >>=20 >> * Adding cardinality to Schema >>=20 >> * Enriching lifecycle state information more than just >> isActive >>=20 >> * Creating an MVP endpoint >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Phil Hunt >> > wrote= : >>=20 >> I don=E2=80=99t think we need a bis draft. I believe w= e=E2=80=99re >> talking about some =E2=80=9Csquishy=E2=80=9D points th= at require >> some errata clarification. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Some of these will also need to be reviewed in the >> context of: does the issue matter for >> interoperability? Some =E2=80=9Csquishy=E2=80=9D area= s are >> intentional giving implementers freedom. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Phil >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> @independentid >>=20 >> www.independentid.com >>=20 >> phil.hunt@oracle.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Leif Johansson >> > wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 2016-06-06 18:19, Ian Glazer wrote: >>=20 >> All - >>=20 >> I have placed my interop results deck in the >> Results folder >> - >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=3D1MENZNkdhZd= wTo-LvuDs6GNifaK85omitBDTFHvCO1pI >>=20 >> But for those of you having problems with >> access, I have also attached it. >>=20 >> Great session this morning everyone. I look >> forward to tackling the >> comments we got from everyone. >>=20 >>=20 >> Is there enough meat here to put together an >> implementation report in >> the sense of RFC 5657? I am also curious if >> there is enough energy >> and implementation experience to turn out a >> "bis" draft, correcting >> bugs and start the draft standard process? >>=20 >> Cheers Leif >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> scim mailing list >> scim@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> scim mailing list >> scim@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >>=20 >> Ian Glazer >>=20 >> Senior Director, Identity >>=20 >> +1 202 255 3166 >>=20 >> @iglazer >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> scim mailing list >> scim@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >>=20 >> Regards, >>=20 >> Shalini >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> scim mailing list >> scim@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> scim mailing list >> scim@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >>=20 >> Ian Glazer >>=20 >> Senior Director, Identity >>=20 >> +1 202 255 3166 >>=20 >> @iglazer >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> scim mailing list >> scim@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >=20 > _______________________________________________ > scim mailing list > scim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim From nobody Sun Jul 3 13:27:39 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83D112B00C for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2016 13:27:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mnt-se.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F5hTvIGn2wjS for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2016 13:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf0-x232.google.com (mail-lf0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56476127071 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2016 13:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x232.google.com with SMTP id h129so106202415lfh.1 for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 13:27:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mnt-se.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vqBnOnjVzJz7OsjOuO1kXo3nnApOEt7FhyyVZ5RHubU=; b=H0l3OwbHhiFX4S1ZSR4lnyT/udlw0N/6R+eAlKakp566aBGhznTHPptccOrHxx6K0C FcsW7pgRwotu06L4LRiPZTGT3JCnTNFu5892fr6TcA4rh3Hss7HZ6t+AofcYPhA6QIDB Iq7WqHiifMY4/7M320yItijiQM7XzkUSh9+0kSXfqRkKhxtbf7p13e01EXXe7Ay2O9nk ooHaBx9MU3KHaDIt/RHwC5pQg9OD/Yy5eQcON+dHWNwvFv5xhxUpTD665Lce8EeME8A+ mDBKmHI4iNu5oEFY1OTEM0clOX2OWzbCCQxfb9OmWHAaEJzv/sYSu2Q9o1vBPVOPZX5R sTzw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vqBnOnjVzJz7OsjOuO1kXo3nnApOEt7FhyyVZ5RHubU=; b=Qj8SXGlQP1id3uBhv3yRRShGQ0YMKCrezMn+whLe8tg9TumbRRQJhX3jqFa7dXN3s0 3kAsOZ3Q+oq7Qbsk1QOQ+8+NOs5JCLlJGAO/VT65LcxCKrco96jDOh1mQ7inBfffkuVT 7zu3/8hYDDG48xDgqkebjtKteaRqw0iqPSc8QvRrxjA6MvAWxCT28kxQQ6fXiitZ5pVc rQ3eLajQjzM5NgmR/lJ1p+/Z/E4rla8TDJIeoY2lq4ozDZoQ7+U6jFIrWVYn3uWfqk7n PDqLmntOokYDviSoFSZ7QdMyBnXuZOqKv5ygU9xcONoZkxSenSc8esu8tecm/t7+E+hJ +Wpw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKg4t5En+e8g/u2eIcJ/bcpv2UDHNctkLPo6AvVEArYkafqeyDUceG/SvLlP/0YrA== X-Received: by 10.25.210.20 with SMTP id j20mr1892334lfg.139.1467577651150; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 13:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.107] (tb62-102-145-131.cust.teknikbyran.com. [62.102.145.131]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id g28sm1919664ljg.24.2016.07.03.13.27.29 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Jul 2016 13:27:30 -0700 (PDT) To: "Phil Hunt (IDM)" References: <57630A75.5050102@mnt.se> <5F70D92F-C9F2-4A04-89C5-E74CB27156D7@oracle.com> <1B483AEC-6201-4506-AD3E-16A012A577FC@oracle.com> <5776D46D.3040207@mnt.se> <37670605-D0F0-4944-B2B7-373E98A64CAF@oracle.com> From: Leif Johansson Message-ID: <57797531.4010102@mnt.se> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 22:27:29 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37670605-D0F0-4944-B2B7-373E98A64CAF@oracle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: scim@ietf.org Subject: Re: [scim] Interop results X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2016 20:27:38 -0000 On 2016-07-02 00:18, Phil Hunt (IDM) wrote: > Unfortunately, I think many won't make it to Berlin. Myself included. :-( > OK then we need a call. Just to be clear: are we talking about going for proposed standard after a bis-rev of the RFCs and an interop report chaser? Cheers Leif > Phil > >> On Jul 1, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: >> >>> On 2016-07-01 18:55, Kelly Grizzle wrote: >>> Sorry that I missed. Morteza, can we get a solid invite for the next >>> meeting so that everyone can plan ahead to attend? >> >> Shouldn't we just talk about this in Berlin? >> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:*scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Ian Glazer >>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:52 PM >>> *To:* Phil Hunt >>> *Cc:* Shalini Gupta ; scim@ietf.org WG >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [scim] Interop results >>> >>> >>> >>> Unfortunately, I cannot make the call today. But I'd still like to keep >>> pushing forward with the results from the interop. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Phil Hunt >> > wrote: >>> >>> Here is the information I have for today’s call: >>> >>> >>> >>> External Organizer: Morteza Ansari >>> >>> Organizer: Phil Idm Jd Hunt >>> >>> ---------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> JOIN WEBEX MEETING >>> >>> https://go.webex.com/go/j.php?MTID=m3841121f45ae983ce09f4869e8d70012 >>> >>> Meeting number: 345 510 827 >>> >>> Meeting password: scim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> JOIN FROM A VIDEO CONFERENCING SYSTEM OR APPLICATION >>> >>> Dial sip:345510827@go.webex.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> JOIN BY PHONE >>> >>> 1-877-668-4488 US Toll Free >>> >>> +1-415-655-0000 US Toll >>> >>> Access code: 345 510 827 >>> >>> >>> >>> Global call-in numbers: >>> >>> https://go.webex.com/go/globalcallin.php?serviceType=MC&ED=181760987&tollFree=1 >>> >>> >>> >>> Toll-free dialing restrictions: >>> >>> https://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Can't join the meeting? Contact support here: >>> >>> https://go.webex.com/go/mc >>> >>> >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> >>> @independentid >>> >>> www.independentid.com >>> >>> phil.hunt@oracle.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 30, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Phil Hunt (IDM) >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Morteza, Leif? >>> >>> >>> >>> I am available for the call. >>> >>> >>> >>> Some of these items are enhancements and should just go on the >>> list as possible new future drafts. >>> >>> >>> >>> We still need to follow up on interop items that should be >>> addressed as errata. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have to confess, versioning is a big problem in the rest >>> community. When an api is proprietary(ie specific) it does not >>> matter much. Standard profiles of http like scim do have the >>> issue of differentiating between protocol, schema, and >>> implementation or product versioning. For scim, the path version >>> reflects the protocol (ie 2) and schema versioning is in the >>> schema uri. >>> >>> >>> >>> Implementers are free to specify an additional attribute in >>> service provider config though we have not made this standard. I >>> do not think this matters much since there no interop issues on >>> product versions. >>> >>> >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> On Jun 30, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Shalini Gupta >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Sorry, could not join the last meeting as I was traveling >>> back to India. >>> >>> Are we meeting today? Can somebody please forward the invite.. >>> >>> >>> >>> There are other items as well which I also mentioned in the >>> CIS Interop, that we should address in the SCIM spec: >>> >>> * Adding scim version in ServiceProviderConfig >>> * Dealing with data transfer on deletes >>> * Crisply defining roles and entitlements >>> * Adding cardinality for multivalued attributes >>> * Issues around delete >>> * Handling license assignments >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Ian Glazer >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Sorry I missed the meeting yesterday; I do hope we can >>> resend the meeting invite. >>> >>> >>> >>> I think the squishy items include: >>> >>> * PATCH implementation practices >>> >>> * Appropriate response when GET'ing a resource but >>> providing a filter which wouldn't return the resource >>> >>> >>> >>> However, the more challenging areas that aren't covered >>> by extensions such as Soft Delete are: >>> >>> * Adding cardinality to Schema >>> >>> * Enriching lifecycle state information more than just >>> isActive >>> >>> * Creating an MVP endpoint >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Phil Hunt >>> > wrote: >>> >>> I don’t think we need a bis draft. I believe we’re >>> talking about some “squishy†points that require >>> some errata clarification. >>> >>> >>> >>> Some of these will also need to be reviewed in the >>> context of: does the issue matter for >>> interoperability? Some “squishy†areas are >>> intentional giving implementers freedom. >>> >>> >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> >>> @independentid >>> >>> www.independentid.com >>> >>> phil.hunt@oracle.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Leif Johansson >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2016-06-06 18:19, Ian Glazer wrote: >>> >>> All - >>> >>> I have placed my interop results deck in the >>> Results folder >>> - >>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MENZNkdhZdwTo-LvuDs6GNifaK85omitBDTFHvCO1pI >>> >>> But for those of you having problems with >>> access, I have also attached it. >>> >>> Great session this morning everyone. I look >>> forward to tackling the >>> comments we got from everyone. >>> >>> >>> Is there enough meat here to put together an >>> implementation report in >>> the sense of RFC 5657? I am also curious if >>> there is enough energy >>> and implementation experience to turn out a >>> "bis" draft, correcting >>> bugs and start the draft standard process? >>> >>> Cheers Leif >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> scim mailing list >>> scim@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> scim mailing list >>> scim@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Ian Glazer >>> >>> Senior Director, Identity >>> >>> +1 202 255 3166 >>> >>> @iglazer >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> scim mailing list >>> scim@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Shalini >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> scim mailing list >>> scim@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> scim mailing list >>> scim@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Ian Glazer >>> >>> Senior Director, Identity >>> >>> +1 202 255 3166 >>> >>> @iglazer >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> scim mailing list >>> scim@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >> >> _______________________________________________ >> scim mailing list >> scim@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim > From nobody Sun Jul 3 16:08:12 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539A612B025 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2016 16:08:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.647 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.647 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EVw8_SaLIlcN for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2016 16:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8916212B024 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2016 16:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u63N87t1019363 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 3 Jul 2016 23:08:07 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u63N86Du019666 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 3 Jul 2016 23:08:07 GMT Received: from abhmp0007.oracle.com (abhmp0007.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u63N82Lg022628; Sun, 3 Jul 2016 23:08:06 GMT Received: from [10.227.38.49] (/24.244.23.237) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:08:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: "Phil Hunt (IDM)" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13F69) In-Reply-To: <57797531.4010102@mnt.se> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 16:08:01 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <878BCF5D-7600-480A-A72A-1D36D79104E3@oracle.com> References: <57630A75.5050102@mnt.se> <5F70D92F-C9F2-4A04-89C5-E74CB27156D7@oracle.com> <1B483AEC-6201-4506-AD3E-16A012A577FC@oracle.com> <5776D46D.3040207@mnt.se> <37670605-D0F0-4944-B2B7-373E98A64CAF@oracle.com> <57797531.4010102@mnt.se> To: Leif Johansson X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] Archived-At: Cc: scim@ietf.org Subject: Re: [scim] Interop results X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:08:10 -0000 I do not think the changes warrant a bis rev. We are just talking errata to c= larify some squishy points and new drafts entirely for new functionality.=20= Phil > On Jul 3, 2016, at 1:27 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: >=20 >> On 2016-07-02 00:18, Phil Hunt (IDM) wrote: >> Unfortunately, I think many won't make it to Berlin. Myself included. :-(= >=20 > OK then we need a call. >=20 > Just to be clear: are we talking about going for proposed standard after > a bis-rev of the RFCs and an interop report chaser? >=20 > Cheers Leif >=20 >=20 >> Phil >>=20 >>>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> On 2016-07-01 18:55, Kelly Grizzle wrote: >>>> Sorry that I missed. Morteza, can we get a solid invite for the next >>>> meeting so that everyone can plan ahead to attend? >>>=20 >>> Shouldn't we just talk about this in Berlin? >>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> *From:*scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Ian Glazer >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:52 PM >>>> *To:* Phil Hunt >>>> *Cc:* Shalini Gupta ; scim@ietf.org WG >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [scim] Interop results >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Unfortunately, I cannot make the call today. But I'd still like to keep= >>>> pushing forward with the results from the interop. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Phil Hunt >>> > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Here is the information I have for today=E2=80=99s call: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> External Organizer: Morteza Ansari >>>>=20 >>>> Organizer: Phil Idm Jd Hunt >>>>=20 >>>> ---------------------- >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> JOIN WEBEX MEETING >>>>=20 >>>> https://go.webex.com/go/j.php?MTID=3Dm3841121f45ae983ce09f4869e8d7001= 2 >>>>=20 >>>> Meeting number: 345 510 827 >>>>=20 >>>> Meeting password: scim >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> JOIN FROM A VIDEO CONFERENCING SYSTEM OR APPLICATION >>>>=20 >>>> Dial sip:345510827@go.webex.com >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> JOIN BY PHONE >>>>=20 >>>> 1-877-668-4488 US Toll Free=20 >>>>=20 >>>> +1-415-655-0000 US Toll >>>>=20 >>>> Access code: 345 510 827 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Global call-in numbers: >>>>=20 >>>> https://go.webex.com/go/globalcallin.php?serviceType=3DMC&ED=3D181760= 987&tollFree=3D1 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Toll-free dialing restrictions:=20 >>>>=20 >>>> https://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Can't join the meeting? Contact support here: >>>>=20 >>>> https://go.webex.com/go/mc >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Phil >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> @independentid >>>>=20 >>>> www.independentid.com >>>>=20 >>>> phil.hunt@oracle.com >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Jun 30, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Phil Hunt (IDM) >>>> > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Morteza, Leif? >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I am available for the call.=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Some of these items are enhancements and should just go on the >>>> list as possible new future drafts.=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> We still need to follow up on interop items that should be >>>> addressed as errata.=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I have to confess, versioning is a big problem in the rest >>>> community. When an api is proprietary(ie specific) it does not >>>> matter much. Standard profiles of http like scim do have the >>>> issue of differentiating between protocol, schema, and >>>> implementation or product versioning. For scim, the path version >>>> reflects the protocol (ie 2) and schema versioning is in the >>>> schema uri.=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Implementers are free to specify an additional attribute in >>>> service provider config though we have not made this standard. I >>>> do not think this matters much since there no interop issues on >>>> product versions.=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Phil >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Jun 30, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Shalini Gupta >>>> > wrote:= >>>>=20 >>>> Sorry, could not join the last meeting as I was traveling >>>> back to India.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Are we meeting today? Can somebody please forward the invite.= .=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> There are other items as well which I also mentioned in the >>>> CIS Interop, that we should address in the SCIM spec: >>>>=20 >>>> * Adding scim version in ServiceProviderConfig >>>> * Dealing with data transfer on deletes >>>> * Crisply defining roles and entitlements >>>> * Adding cardinality for multivalued attributes >>>> * Issues around delete >>>> * Handling license assignments >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Ian Glazer >>>> > wrot= e: >>>>=20 >>>> Sorry I missed the meeting yesterday; I do hope we can >>>> resend the meeting invite. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I think the squishy items include: >>>>=20 >>>> * PATCH implementation practices >>>>=20 >>>> * Appropriate response when GET'ing a resource but >>>> providing a filter which wouldn't return the resource >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> However, the more challenging areas that aren't covered >>>> by extensions such as Soft Delete are: >>>>=20 >>>> * Adding cardinality to Schema >>>>=20 >>>> * Enriching lifecycle state information more than just >>>> isActive >>>>=20 >>>> * Creating an MVP endpoint >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Phil Hunt >>>> > wrot= e: >>>>=20 >>>> I don=E2=80=99t think we need a bis draft. I believe w= e=E2=80=99re >>>> talking about some =E2=80=9Csquishy=E2=80=9D points t= hat require >>>> some errata clarification. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Some of these will also need to be reviewed in the >>>> context of: does the issue matter for >>>> interoperability? Some =E2=80=9Csquishy=E2=80=9D are= as are >>>> intentional giving implementers freedom. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Phil >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> @independentid >>>>=20 >>>> www.independentid.com = >>>>=20 >>>> phil.hunt@oracle.com >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Leif Johansson >>>> > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On 2016-06-06 18:19, Ian Glazer wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> All - >>>>=20 >>>> I have placed my interop results deck in the >>>> Results folder >>>> - >>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=3D1MENZNkdhZ= dwTo-LvuDs6GNifaK85omitBDTFHvCO1pI >>>>=20 >>>> But for those of you having problems with >>>> access, I have also attached it. >>>>=20 >>>> Great session this morning everyone. I look >>>> forward to tackling the >>>> comments we got from everyone. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Is there enough meat here to put together an >>>> implementation report in >>>> the sense of RFC 5657? I am also curious if >>>> there is enough energy >>>> and implementation experience to turn out a >>>> "bis" draft, correcting >>>> bugs and start the draft standard process? >>>>=20 >>>> Cheers Leif >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> scim mailing list >>>> scim@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> scim mailing list >>>> scim@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Ian Glazer >>>>=20 >>>> Senior Director, Identity >>>>=20 >>>> +1 202 255 3166 >>>>=20 >>>> @iglazer >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> scim mailing list >>>> scim@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Regards, >>>>=20 >>>> Shalini >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> scim mailing list >>>> scim@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> scim mailing list >>>> scim@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Ian Glazer >>>>=20 >>>> Senior Director, Identity >>>>=20 >>>> +1 202 255 3166 >>>>=20 >>>> @iglazer >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> scim mailing list >>>> scim@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> scim mailing list >>> scim@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim >=20 > _______________________________________________ > scim mailing list > scim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim From nobody Tue Jul 12 12:43:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620CF12D60B for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:43:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.507 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UzQ6YqsdQoBj for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (userp1040.oracle.com [156.151.31.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 226E912D0EB for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u6CJh5NU022314 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:43:06 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6CJh5hi031170 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:43:05 GMT Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6CJgs51021398 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:43:04 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.15] (/174.7.250.104) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:42:53 -0700 From: Phil Hunt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1FBC3116-8A38-408C-9BF1-75FA4E8477C9" Message-Id: <2D1C3200-3076-4205-B5CF-E7E05722931E@oracle.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:42:52 -0700 To: "scim@ietf.org WG" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] Archived-At: Subject: [scim] SCIM call this thursday X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:43:08 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_1FBC3116-8A38-408C-9BF1-75FA4E8477C9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Are we having the SCIM call this Thursday at 11AM Pacific? As I recall we were going to try to amass the feedback from the CIS = interop results and decide on next steps. Phil @independentid www.independentid.com = phil.hunt@oracle.com = --Apple-Mail=_1FBC3116-8A38-408C-9BF1-75FA4E8477C9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Are we having the SCIM call this Thursday at 11AM = Pacific?

As I recall = we were going to try to amass the feedback from the CIS interop results = and decide on next steps.




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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 Anyone else available? From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:43 PM To: scim@ietf.org WG Subject: [scim] SCIM call this thursday Are we having the SCIM call this Thursday at 11AM Pacific? As I recall we were going to try to amass the feedback from the CIS interop= results and decide on next steps. Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.hunt@oracle.com --_000_CY1PR04MB2363C49046A501C9C017AFB7E2300CY1PR04MB2363namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

+1  Anyone else available?

 

From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf= .org] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:43 PM
To: scim@ietf.org WG <scim@ietf.org>
Subject: [scim] SCIM call this thursday

 

Are we having the SCIM call this Thursday at 11AM Pa= cific?

 

As I recall we were going to try to amass the feedba= ck from the CIS interop results and decide on next steps.

 

 =

 =

 

 

--_000_CY1PR04MB2363C49046A501C9C017AFB7E2300CY1PR04MB2363namp_-- From nobody Tue Jul 12 18:29:39 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A11912DB72 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 18:29:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.807 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.807 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zJHFspddXPW9 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 18:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com [173.37.86.72]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6740212DB69 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 18:29:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=9307; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1468373376; x=1469582976; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: mime-version; bh=8Uc7Efk2JJvOIphhhUjm8JAVwo9mQwyhFehTgG/kC/E=; b=CuvmnG3n+OfYUod0ozJUwXzcLOmoEF58j45Ogwypg4dThzYXK5lorzIe j4EHCPERB7+AZ2Z4M9cIh3OtNZsjIraExoHfV/fsn9r0AAsIvjHO0G2/x Yz8+9i7aSJGNBOF1ztNZViGG2cocnzVudtxTQUuPUx8DUXqCUWJuhfUQ+ Q=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0A4AgB4mIVX/4MNJK1BFwOCcE5WfAaEI?= =?us-ascii?q?q9ignWCD4F5JIV0AoE5OBQBAQEBAQEBZSeEXAEBAwItHD4CAgEIEQMBAQEVBAw?= =?us-ascii?q?DBxsXFAkHAQIBAwESiDAOLbVwiXQBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEcBYYlh?= =?us-ascii?q?E2EMi8BFREHhQ0FiA6GMXuJYQGGDohFjy6QEwEeNoIJHIEBS24Bh2AEQX8BAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.28,354,1464652800"; d="scan'208,217";a="128942881" Received: from alln-core-1.cisco.com ([173.36.13.131]) by rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 13 Jul 2016 01:29:35 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-004.cisco.com (xch-rcd-004.cisco.com [173.37.102.14]) by alln-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u6D1TZSM004703 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 13 Jul 2016 01:29:35 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-004.cisco.com (173.37.102.14) by XCH-RCD-004.cisco.com (173.37.102.14) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1210.3; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 20:29:34 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-004.cisco.com ([173.37.102.14]) by XCH-RCD-004.cisco.com ([173.37.102.14]) with mapi id 15.00.1210.000; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 20:29:34 -0500 From: "Morteza Ansari (moransar)" To: Kelly Grizzle , Phil Hunt , "scim@ietf.org WG" Thread-Topic: [scim] SCIM call this thursday Thread-Index: AQHR3HWn+qdvb94v3UuHix7rYFf6j6AVpVyA///MNoA= Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 01:29:34 +0000 Message-ID: References: <2D1C3200-3076-4205-B5CF-E7E05722931E@oracle.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.6.5.160527 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.155.85.26] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D3AAE64E3A521moransarciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 01:29:38 -0000 --_000_D3AAE64E3A521moransarciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds good. We can use the same WX we had for previous invite as I never c= ancelled the recurring meeting: JOIN WEBEX MEETING https://go.webex.com/go/j.php?MTID=3Dmc1be2a4331a613b748f60ea876885403 Meeting number (access code): 345 510 827 Meeting password: scim JOIN FROM A VIDEO SYSTEM OR APPLICATION Dial sip:345510827@go.webex.com JOIN BY PHONE 1-877-668-4488 US Toll Free +1-415-655-0000 US Toll Global call-in numbers: https://go.webex.com/go/globalcallin.php?serviceType=3DMC&ED=3D181760987&to= llFree=3D1 Toll-free dialing restrictions: https://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf - From: scim > on behalf = of Kelly Grizzle > Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 2:34 PM To: Phil Hunt >, "scim@ie= tf.org" > Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday +1 Anyone else available? From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:43 PM To: scim@ietf.org WG > Subject: [scim] SCIM call this thursday Are we having the SCIM call this Thursday at 11AM Pacific? As I recall we were going to try to amass the feedback from the CIS interop= results and decide on next steps. Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.hunt@oracle.com --_000_D3AAE64E3A521moransarciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sounds good. We can use the same WX we had for previous invite as I ne= ver cancelled the recurring meeting:

JOIN WEBEX MEETING
Meeting number (access code): 345 510 827
Meeting password: scim


JOIN FROM A VIDEO SYSTEM OR APPLICATION


JOIN BY PHONE
1-877-668-4488 US Toll Free 
+1-415-655-0000 US Toll

Global call-in numbers:

Toll-free dialing restrictions: 


—
From: scim <scim-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Kelly Grizzle <kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 2:3= 4 PM
To: Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@oracle.com>, "scim@ietf.org" <scim@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this = thursday

+1  Anyone else available?

 

From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:43 PM
To: scim@ietf.org WG <scim@ietf.org>
Subject: [scim] SCIM call this thursday

 

Are we having the SCIM call this Thursday at 11AM Pa= cific?

 

As I recall we were going to try to amass the feedba= ck from the CIS interop results and decide on next steps.

 

 =

 =

 

 

 --_000_D3AAE64E3A521moransarciscocom_-- From nobody Wed Jul 13 04:15:41 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE4D12DE36 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 04:15:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.22 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.22 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5RciWncVkQdt for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 04:15:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sesbmg23.ericsson.net (sesbmg23.ericsson.net [193.180.251.37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52CC712DD95 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 04:09:08 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-f79f26d00000327e-6f-57862152a22c Received: from ESGSCHC005.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [146.11.116.80]) by sesbmg23.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 1F.9A.12926.25126875; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:09:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESGSCMB105.ericsson.se ([169.254.88.39]) by ESGSCHC005.ericsson.se ([146.11.116.80]) with mapi id 14.03.0294.000; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:09:03 +0800 From: Pierre Lin To: "Morteza Ansari (moransar)" , Kelly Grizzle , Phil Hunt Thread-Topic: [scim] SCIM call this Thursday Thread-Index: AdHc9u4eiJC7LLtXQjuSE0CIJ/eBAg== Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:09:02 +0000 Message-ID: <898BA3257C74614BB5ED53E442DDE7663B10DE@ESGSCMB105.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [146.11.116.128] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_898BA3257C74614BB5ED53E442DDE7663B10DEESGSCMB105ericsso_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprLIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyibskQDdIsS3cYMd2TYufm6cyWdzpbWa3 WDC/kd1i0emNzA4sHlN+b2T1WLLkJ5PHx6e3WDxaLjYwBbBEcdmkpOZklqUW6dslcGXM/apS cLaRsWLKyz1sDYxHSrsYOTkkBEwkll7sYYewxSQu3FvP1sXIxSEkcIRRYtPxf+wQzhJGidvX jrGBVLEJaEnMbL7HCpIQEWhllOjaNJEVJMEsoCbxbN4Spi5GDg5hAW2Jl594QMIiAjoSZ58s Y4Kw9SS+nD7PDGKzCKhKtHauB4vzCnhLLPm+ACzOCHTF91NrmCBGikvcejKfCeI6AYkleyB6 JQREJV4+/scKYStJNL7aBlWfL/Fu32NGiJmCEidnPmGZwCg8C8moWUjKZiEpg4jrSCzY/YkN wtaWWLbwNTOMfebAYyZk8QWM7KsYRYtTi5Ny042M9VKLMpOLi/Pz9PJSSzYxAiPt4JbfqjsY L79xPMQowMGoxMOrYNAaLsSaWFZcmXuIUYKDWUmE95d8W7gQb0piZVVqUX58UWlOavEhRmkO FiVxXv+XiuFCAumJJanZqakFqUUwWSYOTqkGRrlJYYKnp6++OvGWi/cp1de3t4rpsubwXXa+ dN1E8uNm7aXZE3s2bUt4NH9OU5hu2UUt+Y2HfhQlamfvOWT91r39bobhrJ+RO6RY0hbMCAtc z9bCJjSp6VXMfUWzBrMu8W06lX63WmQkXuix3xXOWSW3wnNK/7JD9yxmN4lbhuS1h64NkhT4 p8RSnJFoqMVcVJwIACjOg0mwAgAA Archived-At: Cc: "scim@ietf.org WG" Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this Thursday X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:15:40 -0000 --_000_898BA3257C74614BB5ED53E442DDE7663B10DEESGSCMB105ericsso_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks: Although I am new to this group and may not be able to contribute immediate= ly, this topic/domain is quite pertinent to my role and work. Thus, I'd li= ke to join your Thursday call if not dozing off because of time-zone differ= ence... Regards, Pierre Lin Pierre.lin@ericsson.com From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Morteza Ansari (mora= nsar) Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:30 AM To: Kelly Grizzle ; Phil Hunt ; scim@ietf.org WG Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday Sounds good. We can use the same WX we had for previous invite as I never c= ancelled the recurring meeting: JOIN WEBEX MEETING https://go.webex.com/go/j.php?MTID=3Dmc1be2a4331a613b748f60ea876885403 Meeting number (access code): 345 510 827 Meeting password: scim JOIN FROM A VIDEO SYSTEM OR APPLICATION Dial sip:345510827@go.webex.com JOIN BY PHONE 1-877-668-4488 US Toll Free +1-415-655-0000 US Toll Global call-in numbers: https://go.webex.com/go/globalcallin.php?serviceType=3DMC&ED=3D181760987&to= llFree=3D1 Toll-free dialing restrictions: https://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf - From: scim > on behalf = of Kelly Grizzle > Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 2:34 PM To: Phil Hunt >, "scim@ie= tf.org" > Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday +1 Anyone else available? From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:43 PM To: scim@ietf.org WG > Subject: [scim] SCIM call this thursday Are we having the SCIM call this Thursday at 11AM Pacific? As I recall we were going to try to amass the feedback from the CIS interop= results and decide on next steps. Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.hunt@oracle.com --_000_898BA3257C74614BB5ED53E442DDE7663B10DEESGSCMB105ericsso_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Folks:

 

Although I am new to this group and m= ay not be able to contribute immediately, this topic/domain is quite pertin= ent to my role and work.  Thus, I’d like to join your Thursday call if not dozing off because of time-zone difference…= ;

 

Regards,

Pierre Lin

Pierre.lin@ericsson.com

 

From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf= .org] On Behalf Of Morteza Ansari (moransar)
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:30 AM
To: Kelly Grizzle <kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com>; Phil Hunt <= ;phil.hunt@oracle.com>; scim@ietf.org WG <scim@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday

 

Sounds good. We can use the same WX we = had for previous invite as I never cancelled the recurring meeting:

 

JOIN WEBEX MEETING

Meeting number (access code): 345 510 8= 27

Meeting password: scim

 

 

JOIN FROM A VIDEO SYSTEM OR APPLICATION=

 

 

JOIN BY PHONE

1-877-668-4488 US Toll Free <= /o:p>

+1-415-655-0000 US Toll<= /span>

 

Global call-in numbers:

 

Toll-free dialing restrictions: 

 

 

—

From: scim <scim-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Kelly Grizzle <kelly.grizzle@sail= point.com>=

Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 2:34 PM
To: Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@= oracle.com>, "scim@ietf.org" <scim@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday

 

+1  Anyone else available?

 

From: scim [= mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:43 PM
To: scim@ietf.org WG <scim@ietf.org>
Subject: [scim] SCIM call this thursday

 =

Are we having the SCIM c= all this Thursday at 11AM Pacific?

 =

As I recall we were goin= g to try to amass the feedback from the CIS interop results and decide on n= ext steps.

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boundary="_000_BN3PR0301MB1234CC5E91ACDFE98ABAE130A6310BN3PR0301MB1234_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 13 Jul 2016 12:02:16.5344 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 72f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN3PR0301MB1234 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 12:02:20 -0000 --_000_BN3PR0301MB1234CC5E91ACDFE98ABAE130A6310BN3PR0301MB1234_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 11AM PDT and not 10AM PDT ? From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Morteza Ansari (mora= nsar) Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:30 PM To: Kelly Grizzle ; Phil Hunt ; scim@ietf.org WG Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday Sounds good. We can use the same WX we had for previous invite as I never c= ancelled the recurring meeting: JOIN WEBEX MEETING https://go.webex.com/go/j.php?MTID=3Dmc1be2a4331a613b748f60ea876885403 Meeting number (access code): 345 510 827 Meeting password: scim JOIN FROM A VIDEO SYSTEM OR APPLICATION Dial sip:345510827@go.webex.com JOIN BY PHONE 1-877-668-4488 US Toll Free +1-415-655-0000 US Toll Global call-in numbers: https://go.webex.com/go/globalcallin.php?serviceType=3DMC&ED=3D181760987&to= llFree=3D1 Toll-free dialing restrictions: https://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf - From: scim > on behalf = of Kelly Grizzle > Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 2:34 PM To: Phil Hunt >, "scim@ie= tf.org" > Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday +1 Anyone else available? From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:43 PM To: scim@ietf.org WG > Subject: [scim] SCIM call this thursday Are we having the SCIM call this Thursday at 11AM Pacific? As I recall we were going to try to amass the feedback from the CIS interop= results and decide on next steps. Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.hunt@oracle.com --_000_BN3PR0301MB1234CC5E91ACDFE98ABAE130A6310BN3PR0301MB1234_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

11AM PDT and not 10AM PDT ?

 

From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf= .org] On Behalf Of Morteza Ansari (moransar)
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:30 PM
To: Kelly Grizzle <kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com>; Phil Hunt <= ;phil.hunt@oracle.com>; scim@ietf.org WG <scim@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday

 

Sounds good. We can use the same WX we = had for previous invite as I never cancelled the recurring meeting:

 

JOIN WEBEX MEETING

Meeting number (access code): 345 510 8= 27

Meeting password: scim

 

 

JOIN FROM A VIDEO SYSTEM OR APPLICATION=

 

 

JOIN BY PHONE

1-877-668-4488 US Toll Free <= /o:p>

+1-415-655-0000 US Toll<= /span>

 

Global call-in numbers:

 

Toll-free dialing restrictions: 

 

 

—

From: scim <scim-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Kelly Grizzle <kelly.grizzle@sail= point.com>=

Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 2:34 PM
To: Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@= oracle.com>, "scim@ietf.org" <scim@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday

 

+1  Anyone else available?

 

From: scim [= mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:43 PM
To: scim@ietf.org WG <scim@ietf.org>
Subject: [scim] SCIM call this thursday

 =

Are we having the SCIM c= all this Thursday at 11AM Pacific?

 =

As I recall we were goin= g to try to amass the feedback from the CIS interop results and decide on n= ext steps.

 =

 =

 =

 

 =

--_000_BN3PR0301MB1234CC5E91ACDFE98ABAE130A6310BN3PR0301MB1234_-- From nobody Wed Jul 13 08:22:36 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DDA12D7DB for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:22:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.396 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.396 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH=1.989, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URI_HEX=1.122] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zp_F01Fr64zX for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (userp1040.oracle.com [156.151.31.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0E4412D1D2 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u6DFMT4U032424 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:22:30 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6DFMTSl004291 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:22:29 GMT Received: from abhmp0008.oracle.com (abhmp0008.oracle.com [141.146.116.14]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u6DFMTuL010600; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:22:29 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.15] (/174.7.250.104) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:22:28 -0700 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_23C08D79-A1AA-4BB3-B6AC-9576EC91B4FE" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Phil Hunt In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:22:27 -0700 Message-Id: <1B1BEC85-8476-4DA3-B7BF-F2372498F4DF@oracle.com> References: <2D1C3200-3076-4205-B5CF-E7E05722931E@oracle.com> To: Tony Nadalin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] Archived-At: Cc: "scim@ietf.org WG" , Morteza Ansari , Kelly Grizzle Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:22:34 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_23C08D79-A1AA-4BB3-B6AC-9576EC91B4FE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Yup. Always been 11 Pacific AFAIK. Phil @independentid www.independentid.com = phil.hunt@oracle.com = > On Jul 13, 2016, at 5:02 AM, Anthony Nadalin = wrote: >=20 > 11AM PDT and not 10AM PDT ? > =C2=A0 <> > From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Morteza Ansari = (moransar) > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:30 PM > To: Kelly Grizzle ; Phil Hunt = ; scim@ietf.org WG > Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday > =20 > Sounds good. We can use the same WX we had for previous invite as I = never cancelled the recurring meeting: > =20 > JOIN WEBEX MEETING > https://go.webex.com/go/j.php?MTID=3Dmc1be2a4331a613b748f60ea876885403 = > Meeting number (access code): 345 510 827 > Meeting password: scim > =20 > =20 > JOIN FROM A VIDEO SYSTEM OR APPLICATION > Dial sip:345510827@go.webex.com > =20 > =20 > JOIN BY PHONE > 1-877-668-4488 US Toll Free=20 > +1-415-655-0000 US Toll > =20 > Global call-in numbers: > = https://go.webex.com/go/globalcallin.php?serviceType=3DMC&ED=3D181760987&t= ollFree=3D1 = > =20 > Toll-free dialing restrictions:=20 > https://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf = > =20 > =20 > =E2=80=94 > From: scim > on = behalf of Kelly Grizzle > > Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 2:34 PM > To: Phil Hunt >, = "scim@ietf.org " > > Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday > =20 > +1 Anyone else available? > =20 > From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org = ] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:43 PM > To: scim@ietf.org WG > > Subject: [scim] SCIM call this thursday > =20 > Are we having the SCIM call this Thursday at 11AM Pacific? > =20 > As I recall we were going to try to amass the feedback from the CIS = interop results and decide on next steps. > =20 > Phil > =20 > @independentid > www.independentid.com = > phil.hunt@oracle.com --Apple-Mail=_23C08D79-A1AA-4BB3-B6AC-9576EC91B4FE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Yup.  Always been 11 Pacific AFAIK.




On Jul 13, 2016, at 5:02 AM, Anthony Nadalin <tonynad@microsoft.com> wrote:

11AM PDT and not 10AM PDT ?
 
From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Morteza Ansari = (moransar)
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:30 = PM
To: Kelly Grizzle <kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com>; Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@oracle.com>; scim@ietf.org WG <scim@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this = thursday
 
Sounds good. We can use the same WX we had for previous = invite as I never cancelled the recurring meeting:
 
JOIN WEBEX MEETING
https://go.webex.com/go/j.php?MTID=3Dmc1be2a4331a613b748f60ea87= 6885403
Meeting number (access = code): 345 510 827
Meeting password: scim
 
 
JOIN FROM A VIDEO SYSTEM = OR APPLICATION
Dial sip:345510827@go.webex.com
 
 
JOIN BY PHONE
1-877-668-4488 US Toll Free 
+1-415-655-0000 US Toll
 
Global call-in = numbers:
https://go.webex.com/go/globalcallin.php?serviceType=3DMC&E= D=3D181760987&tollFree=3D1
 
Toll-free dialing = restrictions: 
https://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf
 
 
=E2=80=94
From: scim <scim-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Kelly Grizzle <kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 2:34 PM
To: Phil = Hunt <phil.hunt@oracle.com>, = "scim@ietf.org" <scim@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call = this thursday
 
+1  Anyone else available?
 
From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Phil Hunt
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:43 = PM
To: scim@ietf.org WG <scim@ietf.org>
Subject: [scim] SCIM call this = thursday
 
Are we having the SCIM call this Thursday at 11AM = Pacific?
 
As I recall we were going = to try to amass the feedback from the CIS interop results and decide on = next steps.
 
Phil
 
@independentid
www.independentid.com
phil.hunt@oracle.com

= --Apple-Mail=_23C08D79-A1AA-4BB3-B6AC-9576EC91B4FE-- From nobody Wed Jul 13 08:28:25 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8741612D98B for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:28:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.876 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.876 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH=1.989, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URI_HEX=1.122] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0qA1XgkRNfYJ for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vk0-x235.google.com (mail-vk0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F041012D859 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk0-x235.google.com with SMTP id x130so70539900vkc.0 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:28:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=n9tF91si6T2uKuHCqCSfFCFFf97COiF5ItaWEYIQsD4=; b=SAb/6wgQ9PIayyfYakCXdmETFO9P2Tu22oZustex0DX29AQxsG44R27kFCfS3eiNei QlBVio1YsLuyBeGpFkq1VcLethaP78d5uamyplAeEKCduf1Mebe//FRWI9Y7aPtuDvcp BO2+FiO7uJR5KSKSo8VJHBY+Xw3D84R6XUe0PNyEfKRDzesC/8yp//vFy84d9FxHbRj4 Onzf9HPRWJdT/fGEmGEXv1PlZOK0Nf3J/V/Prfv3M2wIyV7L6+k/omkXkhoG2PvgP0CZ ytq6srAnN0Oh2AsHGTzvhHg7NIpU0WKlGj3QXJn84RQF7ec62R8DYjq4YP3ZcgZlf6mV Vl9w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=n9tF91si6T2uKuHCqCSfFCFFf97COiF5ItaWEYIQsD4=; b=in5s0iE3EH/YeEmXHjGmU3+OJoqxDnPiWcPwVjH1M73rng4Zvy2KIcRLdQAbjcgNYP iP0CrGF3O/5KyiuhB+Pu6egC/8hhGXXwtD1460Iqyme1crOjiJC6HZuJ9RxQC+5FVtQF 7kOuc8bWoiuRNZHk4slgv2dZ2xy4ra5TV4x8T853RlJnzhToGonX69mCPRKIL8Dm3Duf aCZJ7Y4sxAMGZH250QrZF3885MuXCKM9/liIJfHaGf9SKtguEmPBxA3ZAE0aMBMQWZIi V0RC1uQhYbDmi4XrKYnuEBzkAVn97QwGoDWY3c2l2Rc0FixrfGWgBFuxK7xdSJql9MEu Z3OQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLu8xigpD3UwkNdLhKzClYIbdYGSH6PqFU2QY8bLke05uEk2fWDDlhVJnhAgXfQTxulKQQGubanllY9VZY9 X-Received: by 10.31.193.20 with SMTP id r20mr4155802vkf.4.1468423699875; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:28:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.170.203 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:28:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1B1BEC85-8476-4DA3-B7BF-F2372498F4DF@oracle.com> References: <2D1C3200-3076-4205-B5CF-E7E05722931E@oracle.com> <1B1BEC85-8476-4DA3-B7BF-F2372498F4DF@oracle.com> From: Shalini Gupta Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:58:00 +0530 Message-ID: To: Phil Hunt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114dc0900320d805378609d8 Archived-At: Cc: Tony Nadalin , Kelly Grizzle , Morteza Ansari , "scim@ietf.org WG" Subject: Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:28:23 -0000 --001a114dc0900320d805378609d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey guys, >From the next meeting onwards, can we advance this a little. It gets too late in India - 11:30pm - 12:30am. Does 9am PDT - 10amPDT work for folks? On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Phil Hunt wrote: > Yup. Always been 11 Pacific AFAIK. > > Phil > > @independentid > www.independentid.com > phil.hunt@oracle.com > > > > > > On Jul 13, 2016, at 5:02 AM, Anthony Nadalin > wrote: > > 11AM PDT and not 10AM PDT ? > > *From:* scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org ] *On > Behalf Of *Morteza Ansari (moransar) > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:30 PM > *To:* Kelly Grizzle ; Phil Hunt < > phil.hunt@oracle.com>; scim@ietf.org WG > > *Subject:* Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday > > Sounds good. We can use the same WX we had for previous invite as I never > cancelled the recurring meeting: > > JOIN WEBEX MEETING > https://go.webex.com/go/j.php?MTID=3Dmc1be2a4331a613b748f60ea876885403 > > Meeting number (access code): 345 510 827 > Meeting password: scim > > > JOIN FROM A VIDEO SYSTEM OR APPLICATION > Dial sip:345510827@go.webex.com > > > JOIN BY PHONE > 1-877-668-4488 US Toll Free > +1-415-655-0000 US Toll > > Global call-in numbers: > > https://go.webex.com/go/globalcallin.php?serviceType=3DMC&ED=3D181760987&= tollFree=3D1 > > > Toll-free dialing restrictions: > https://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf > > > > =E2=80=94 > *From: *scim on behalf of Kelly Grizzle < > kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com> > *Date: *Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 2:34 PM > *To: *Phil Hunt , "scim@ietf.org" > *Subject: *Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday > > +1 Anyone else available? > > *From:* scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org ] *On > Behalf Of *Phil Hunt > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 12, 2016 2:43 PM > *To:* scim@ietf.org WG > *Subject:* [scim] SCIM call this thursday > > Are we having the SCIM call this Thursday at 11AM Pacific? > > As I recall we were going to try to amass the feedback from the CIS > interop results and decide on next steps. > > Phil > > @independentid > www.independentid.com > > phil.hunt@oracle.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > scim mailing list > scim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim > > --=20 Regards, Shalini --001a114dc0900320d805378609d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey guys,

From the next meeting onwards= , can we advance this a little. It gets too late in India - 11:30pm - 12:30= am.

Does 9am PDT - 10amPDT work for folks?=C2=A0

On Wed,= Jul 13, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@oracle.com> wrote:
Yup.=C2=A0 Always been 11 Pacific AFAIK.


On Jul 13, 2016, at 5:02 AM, Anthon= y Nadalin <to= nynad@microsoft.com> wrote:

11AM PDT and not 10AM PDT ?=
From:=C2=A0scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org= ]=C2=A0On Behalf Of=C2=A0Morteza Ansar= i (moransar)
Sent:=C2=A0Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:30 = PM
To:=C2=A0Kelly Grizzle <kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com&= gt;; Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@oracle.com>; scim@ietf.org WG <scim@ietf.org>

Subject:=C2=A0Re: [scim] SCIM call this thursday
= =C2=A0
Sounds good. We can use the same WX= we had for previous invite as I never cancelled the recurring meeting:<= /u>
=C2=A0
JOIN WEBEX MEETING
Meeting number (access code): 345 510 827
Meeting password: scim
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=C2=A0
JOIN= FROM A VIDEO SYSTEM OR APPLICATION
=C2=A0<= /span>
=C2=A0
<= div>
JOIN BY PHONE
1-877-668-4488 US Toll Free=C2=A0
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=C2=A0
Globa= l call-in numbers:
= From:=C2=A0scim <scim-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Kelly Grizz= le <ke= lly.grizzle@sailpoint.com>
Date:=C2=A0Tuesda= y, July 12, 2016 at 2:34 PM
To:=C2=A0Phil Hunt <<= a href=3D"mailto:phil.hunt@oracle.com" style=3D"color:purple;text-decoratio= n:underline" target=3D"_blank">phil.hunt@oracle.com>, "scim@ietf.org" <scim= @ietf.org>
Subject:=C2=A0Re: [scim] SCIM call= this thursday
= =C2= =A0
+1=C2=A0 Anyone else ava= ilable?
=C2=A0
From:=C2=A0scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org]=C2=A0On Behalf Of= =C2=A0Phil Hunt
Sent:=C2=A0Tuesday, July = 12, 2016 2:43 PM
To:=C2=A0s= cim@ietf.org=C2=A0WG <scim@iet= f.org>
Subject:=C2=A0[scim] SCIM call this th= ursday
=C2=A0
A= re we having the SCIM call this Thursday at 11AM Pacific?
=C2=A0
As I recall we were going to try t= o amass the feedback from the CIS interop results and decide on next steps.=
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DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BN3PR0301MB1236; H:BN3PR0301MB1234.namprd03.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: microsoft.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 17 Jul 2016 21:45:50.9095 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 72f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN3PR0301MB1236 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [scim] Manage U2F creds via SCIM X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 21:45:55 -0000 Please explain as the only thing from FIDO is the public key of the client,= the rest is normal directory/endpoint provisioning=20 -----Original Message----- From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike Schwartz Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 7:06 AM To: scim@ietf.org Subject: [scim] Manage U2F creds via SCIM SCIM gurus, I am wondering if any of you have feedback on the best way to handle FIDO c= reds via SCIM? Gluu is building a new UI to enable people to add|remove|update their vario= us FIDO creds, both U2F and UAF. There is quite a bit of metadata about the= se creds, for example, keyhandle, public keys, modalities, timestamps, etc. All ideas welcome :) - Mike _______________________________________________ scim mailing list scim@ietf.org https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3a%2f%2fwww.ietf= .org%2fmailman%2flistinfo%2fscim&data=3D01%7c01%7ctonynad%40microsoft.com%7= c186657b9761a401183b708d3acb920d6%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sd= ata=3DHn%2f3QprHPJhEir2HTYZ2KQm%2fF0PB%2bQPr1wZxYiMGjd4%3d From nobody Mon Jul 18 00:54:40 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4EA12D18C for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 00:54:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.72 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.72 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=fastmail.fm header.b=juY/2jCy; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=JLtCrEbK Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IFjgs_l0APGY for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 00:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C415712D16C for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 00:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3018A2036B for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 03:54:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 18 Jul 2016 03:54:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=5el w10c/2D5AFoiIFDjawG0Kur4=; b=juY/2jCygZuJpD3WeHyFiIpnlqWqWQWUk+w IR6+blMsti01Hekbp+tqAtZJdTFeahv2bnhfFNNfQQ76n+mm/XMgUCXYpyvU70Pg U4y9N+5usDiNkNQIwKkcHJQyfRobeqaQlQw+4ffkoUMIU/4UTfzgPxW4SToObMxT Tth0eSec= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=5elw10c/2D5AFoiIFDjawG0Kur4=; b=JLtCr EbK/arTBExP9BTj3QQvHh8rBhc4mtkxCOxEIaUZzgUt0QpYqLhNKVz+bMapiNgqg mTN2g0PscbtsXt4j0AA4zp+288lIV7HVvMZ62ozknc/09/cd9Ln0U/5zTgHWeBUW qvSbjLDX6tV570Lo9YdcyrPMTa9IZ900t7NhnQ= Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id EEF90D018E; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 03:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1468828474.111731.669170217.2194672D@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: lV75oyC79AQ6EyVGvyzKoYcuQzBKMCh6Z2GnxC8wx9+G 1468828474 From: Alexey Melnikov To: scim@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-6fae4dd4 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:54:34 +0100 Archived-At: Subject: [scim] Closing down the SCIM WG X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 07:54:38 -0000 Hi, As per earlier email from Leif, I am going to close the SCIM WG. The mailing list will remain open. If, in the future, people want to work on SCIM extensions or work on -bis documents, creating a new WG would be an option. Best Regards, Alexey From nobody Mon Jul 18 08:48:01 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03FA12D135 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:47:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6pJGP98IDJex for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-x22b.google.com (mail-it0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B762612B060 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id f6so15800477ith.0 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:45:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=YtRr34IIWOiCiD3mzrJYW8xhMF3IEr2E2HpMF7T2W1I=; b=q3WlIhCfe/k2ypn7cHRzgIhdydMUsuUuliuv0Ll3t+xY5EZZ3hg4Fxb90IPE39xLN9 otgg+F2s+REWazy6YrRG67TkgiCnQOmegQe8YaWIS2DDDbcaMQcYZMcq/PbwmJ6eETBG hZTfeVGUVUcjYBwCYrPqZldkArt1faU26BBDKx+84bktX/Uidcd+kEMeiK+0R1hMYxxL CMEwYVIl0QtBHUbZOrYs356jQETY7Zuf4L3XQBTkgX8d2xZR5GfM8WFr0deC1BIglt05 w6a8JSlFufoOoZQZ3xF2md0TWKF1hFHi3K0HVI8OToHrq6jy826n/ZiTwKE8sSukJp7C efeg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=YtRr34IIWOiCiD3mzrJYW8xhMF3IEr2E2HpMF7T2W1I=; b=YdFQiYuY6aJ8eTGcxJ05/yfjsaToo48Q/TvR8DL8b+9L4iLKSG5M4gNnr/lKI6UAzj ZYgq4Ju/QnfrFituT7Fl2+xOCn1ctBIISA5og9qQq4pNm1iXoWgk24rFFkeq6r/yZfmW nm5JjBmJuWOIRR7BNWp9XW32YJgu+AX2OZZXkL90Rt02lP6eLALYNzrMEsVFfQ55sW/8 4b3kVu5qsRFj/w7G6R9u6yUY8xM5Q6nb/jem2iJeqY7sOEbmIkAG4lMYiL2pe+Nc12i9 FD07tVl6/wZ36trE9ili69kMXQkFiDtnZwmdLbevSZksnwd5XSTgup7yij9GZXsj0gCD guzQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJOorKwW3/G4Sdt5rIN2jaX7jbj4Jv/KCldaIKmn4xsNDlI5YVZTRhsgpnNtHTt4q7D9nbjwlTe1dwEHQ== X-Received: by 10.36.68.3 with SMTP id o3mr47950173ita.72.1468856704807; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:45:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.32.41 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:45:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Shelley Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:45:04 -0500 Message-ID: To: "scim@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11350d3e1db7b10537eada92 Archived-At: Subject: [scim] PATCH Response Status X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 15:47:59 -0000 --001a11350d3e1db7b10537eada92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The SCIM specification indicates that a server may return *either *a 200 or 204 for successful PATCH requests, but *must *return 200 for PATCH requests with the "attributes" parameter [1,2]. Our team's SCIM service provider implementation is currently deciding which status code is the most appropriate to return. A 200 would provide the most complete representation available and would provide consistency regardless of the absence/presence of the "attributes" parameter. However, one of the most significant benefits of PATCH is the performance improvements. For example, PATCH can prevent consumers from dealing with extremely large group resources (in many cases, groups have thousands or even tens-of-thousands of members); and likewise, the resources required on the server to process and/or return such large requests is significant. A 204 response could therefore have significant performance benefits. What do other SCIM service providers return for successful PATCH requests? Also, do SCIM consumers/clients properly handle the possibility for either a 200 or 204 to be returned per the spec? [1] http://www.simplecloud.info/specs/draft-scim-api-01.html#edit-resource-with-patch [2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7644#section-3.5.2 --001a11350d3e1db7b10537eada92 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The SCIM specification indicates that a server may return = either a 200 or 204 for successful PATCH requests, but must r= eturn 200 for PATCH requests with the "attributes" parameter [1,2= ].

Our team's SCIM service provider implementation is currently = deciding which status code is the most appropriate to return. A 200 would p= rovide the most complete representation available and would provide consist= ency regardless of the absence/presence of the "attributes" param= eter. However, one of the most significant benefits of PATCH is the perform= ance improvements. For example, PATCH can prevent consumers from dealing wi= th extremely large group resources (in many cases, groups have thousands or= even tens-of-thousands of members); and likewise, the resources required o= n the server to process and/or return such large requests is significant. A= 204 response could therefore have significant performance benefits.
What do other SCIM service providers return for successful PATCH requests?= Also, do SCIM consumers/clients properly handle the possibility for either= a 200 or 204 to be returned per the spec?

[1] ht= tp://www.simplecloud.info/specs/draft-scim-api-01.html#edit-resource-with-p= atch
[2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7644#section-3.5.2
--001a11350d3e1db7b10537eada92-- From nobody Mon Jul 18 08:49:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9921112DA94 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:49:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.771 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.771 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, TRACKER_ID=1.306, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=neutral reason="invalid (public key: not available)" header.d=gluu.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jOr7MNI3vW1o for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.gluu.org (webmail.gluu.org [104.130.217.77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F21712DACD for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail.gluu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C05B40ED for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 15:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: webmail.gluu.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=gluu.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gluu.org; h= user-agent:message-id:references:in-reply-to:organization :subject:subject:to:from:from:date:date :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type :mime-version; s=dkim; t=1468856817; x=1469720818; bh=gcYwIBx7ce 3uTgu0CDRNX9peg6jof420kZpAr/DLcjk=; b=tMt0HIzgkfKVyKucDH5huVaZzn vjSLQ8DqOv07N53h0uwTUCoKlXwU5+8DomKffjSSEjF3vkWF3QhtccNHRPjAfIfR IZLwGNwsasBuE9NYRn7RNY7B6o43pZRi96/DVh9ojDtJl6jDvlXh1lRR91E8stKb iEwdAYfu3xhZ98zSg= Received: from webmail.gluu.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (webmail.gluu.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YxbLl4frYKe3 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 15:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.gluu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail.gluu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61B95B404D; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 15:46:57 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:46:57 -0500 From: Mike Schwartz To: Anthony Nadalin Organization: Gluu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: X-Sender: mike@gluu.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail Archived-At: Cc: scim@ietf.org Subject: Re: [scim] Manage U2F creds via SCIM X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 15:49:03 -0000 Tony, Thanks for your feedback... There is quite a bit more metadata then just the public key. Currently in the Gluu Server, when a person registers a U2F token (and UAF will be similar, with some extra metadata like modality) we create an ldap entry something like this below: dn:oxId=1468855955569,ou=u2f_devices...o=gluu objectClass: oxDeviceRegistration objectClass: top oxDeviceKeyHandle: 1NNXDRopzVUT7S8X5dMnTiXOyM23OdMJUiX8OAHe9- oxStatus: active oxCounter: -1 oxApplication: https://albacore.gluu.info oxId: 1468855955569 creationDate: 20160718153235.567Z oxDeviceRegistrationConf: {"publicKey":"BKf0GHA72kaG6hL4JcjGTNVHKCB0K_blgbO1SSe7 yy46VVQKSj022IC4vgTM0nfHTq2Wcjh5a-BpKP4ZRWqq36U","attestationCert":"MIICLjCCARi gAwIBAgIECmML_zALBgkqhkiG9w0BAQswLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjWXViaWNvIFUyRiBSb290IENBIFNlcm lhbCA0NTcyMDA2MzEwIBcNMTQwODAxMDAwMDAwWhgPMjA1MDA5MDQwMDAwMDBaMCkxJzAlBgNVBAMMH ll1YmljbyBVMkYgRUUgU2VyaWFsIDE3NDI2MzI5NTBZMBMGByqGSM49AgEGCCqGSM49AwEHA0IABKQj ZF26iyPtbNnl5IuTKs_fRWTHVzHxz1IHRRBrSbqWD60PCqUJPe4zkIRFqBa4NnzdhVcS80nlZuY3ANQ m0J-jJjAkMCIGCSsGAQQBgsQKAgQVMS4zLjYuMS40LjEuNDE0ODIuMS4yMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEBCwOCAQ EAZTmwMqHPxEjSB64Umwq2tGDKplAcEzrwmg6kgS8KPkJKXKSu9T1H6XBM9-LAE9cN48oUirFFmDIlT bZRXU2Vm2qO9OdrSVFY-qdbF9oti8CKAmPHuJZSW6ii7qNE59dHKUaP4lDYpnhRDqttWSUalh2LPDJQ UpO9bsJPkgNZAhBUQMYZXL_MQZLRYkX-ld7llTNOX5u7n_4Y5EMr-lqOyVVC9lQ6JP6xoa9q6Zp9-Y9 ZmLCecrrcuH6-pLDgAzPcc8qxhC2OR1B0ZSpI9RBgcT0KqnVE0tq1KEDeokPqF3MgmDRkJ--_a2pV0w AYfPC3tC57BtBdH_UXEB8xZVFhtA"} oxDeviceHashCode: 21984 We prefer not to stuff this information in a user attribute, primarily because in a one step authentication we want to search for the KeyHandle, and having to substring index all that cert data would waste a lot of disk space and memory. The issue we are now facing is that a person can have multiple U2F devices of course. So we need to build API's for this so our credential management application (think fancy password reset app that support strong auth creds too...) can manage the data appropriately. So we could build new API's, but we're wondering if we could implement SCIM in a way to handle the use case. For example, there are the device endpoints (I was thinking device would be more like a mobile device, but maybe U2F device works too). Or as you mentioned, perhaps we should map this data as a special user claim... that's sort of what we're wondering. If there was a particular design that would be more appropriate, and if it might make sense for others to follow the same pattern. - Mike On 2016-07-17 16:45, An thony Nadalin wrote: > Please explain as the only thing from FIDO is the public key of the > client, the rest is normal directory/endpoint provisioning > > -----Original Message----- > From: scim [mailto:scim-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike Schwartz > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 7:06 AM > To: scim@ietf.org > Subject: [scim] Manage U2F creds via SCIM > > SCIM gurus, > > I am wondering if any of you have feedback on the best way to handle > FIDO creds via SCIM? > Gluu is building a new UI to enable people to add|remove|update their > various FIDO creds, both U2F and UAF. 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The client can force the full response by including the attributes = parameter. Note: of course a service provider might still refuse under = its own access rules. Just as servers are required to be robust, we can expect that clients = should expect some variation from the servers on the response code and = the content of the response (the server isn=E2=80=99t obliged to accept = data as stated 100%). Phil @independentid www.independentid.com = phil.hunt@oracle.com = > On Jul 18, 2016, at 8:45 AM, Shelley wrote: >=20 > The SCIM specification indicates that a server may return either a 200 = or 204 for successful PATCH requests, but must return 200 for PATCH = requests with the "attributes" parameter [1,2]. >=20 > Our team's SCIM service provider implementation is currently deciding = which status code is the most appropriate to return. A 200 would provide = the most complete representation available and would provide consistency = regardless of the absence/presence of the "attributes" parameter. = However, one of the most significant benefits of PATCH is the = performance improvements. For example, PATCH can prevent consumers from = dealing with extremely large group resources (in many cases, groups have = thousands or even tens-of-thousands of members); and likewise, the = resources required on the server to process and/or return such large = requests is significant. A 204 response could therefore have significant = performance benefits. >=20 > What do other SCIM service providers return for successful PATCH = requests? Also, do SCIM consumers/clients properly handle the = possibility for either a 200 or 204 to be returned per the spec? >=20 > [1] = http://www.simplecloud.info/specs/draft-scim-api-01.html#edit-resource-wit= h-patch = > [2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7644#section-3.5.2 = > _______________________________________________ > scim mailing list > scim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim --Apple-Mail=_D7D9AEEC-67DA-4A92-9536-B0CC828B4C52 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Because of the issue you mention I would expect a lot are = returning code 204.  The client can force the full response by = including the attributes parameter. Note: of course a service = provider might still refuse under its own access rules.

Just as = servers are required to be robust, we can expect that clients should = expect some variation from the servers on the response code and the = content of the response (the server isn=E2=80=99t obliged to accept data = as stated 100%).




On Jul 18, 2016, at 8:45 AM, Shelley <randomshelley@gmail.com> wrote:

The SCIM specification indicates that a server may return either a 200 or 204 for successful PATCH requests, but must return 200 for PATCH requests with the "attributes" = parameter [1,2].

Our team's SCIM service = provider implementation is currently deciding which status code is the = most appropriate to return. A 200 would provide the most complete = representation available and would provide consistency regardless of the = absence/presence of the "attributes" parameter. However, one of the most = significant benefits of PATCH is the performance improvements. For = example, PATCH can prevent consumers from dealing with extremely large = group resources (in many cases, groups have thousands or even = tens-of-thousands of members); and likewise, the resources required on = the server to process and/or return such large requests is significant. = A 204 response could therefore have significant performance benefits.

What do other SCIM service providers return = for successful PATCH requests? Also, do SCIM consumers/clients properly = handle the possibility for either a 200 or 204 to be returned per the = spec?

[1] http://www.simplecloud.info/specs/draft-scim-api-01.html#edit-r= esource-with-patch
[2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7644#section-3.5.2
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= --Apple-Mail=_D7D9AEEC-67DA-4A92-9536-B0CC828B4C52-- From nobody Mon Jul 18 10:41:01 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C462B12B077 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:40:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.507 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2Ol0k_p03UPx for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69F3F12DB33 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u6IHegSw018983 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:40:43 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u6IHegwI007496 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:40:42 GMT Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u6IHef6p001213; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:40:41 GMT Received: from [10.0.1.4] (/24.86.216.17) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:40:40 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_135E3434-15F1-4E27-B357-56CF61CC50D8" From: Phil Hunt In-Reply-To: <1468828474.111731.669170217.2194672D@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:40:39 -0700 Message-Id: References: <1468828474.111731.669170217.2194672D@webmail.messagingengine.com> To: Alexey Melnikov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] Archived-At: Cc: scim@ietf.org Subject: Re: [scim] Closing down the SCIM WG X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:40:53 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_135E3434-15F1-4E27-B357-56CF61CC50D8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I think we need to talk about re-chartering if the group has re-gained = interest since the recent interop at the Cloud Identity Summit in New = Orleans. A number of items people have requested: * Refinements and errata based on the recent informal interop=20 * Many requested enhancements (do people have strong desires?) - New resource types (e.g. organizations) - Polling (e.g. for replication) - Identity Events - Soft Delete - Account reset semantics - Extended meta-data (verfied, expired meta attributes) for complex = attributes - OAuth Authorization Scope proposal (will be tabling soon) - several others Regarding Identity Events (some work that may come back to the SCIM WG): The identity events work may be re-organizing a bit. There is informal = consensus on the id-events mailing list to ask for AD sponsorship (has = not been requested yet) of the current ID Event Token draft. But a few = do not want to talk about delivery or transmission - they want per-area = custom REST spec for each of: SCIM, OAuth Token Revocation, OIDC Logout, = and RISC (not to mention HEART and others). If this happens SCIM needs = a way to deliver messages that ensures: * Delivery of multiple messages at a time * Detection of lost events * A recovery mechanism. The proposal I=E2=80=99ve work with Craig McMurtry on is to combine the = events distribution draft with his SCIM Polling draft to achieve this. = The problem? Should this work be done under SCIM or under a new = ID-Events working group? As we learned with SCIM, the chief problem with RESTful services and = interop is how to handle error conditions. Aside: Corner cases and = error conditions are actually driving recent requests to revise the SCIM = protocol to provide even more specific details. This is interesting = feedback since at the time of publication, I=E2=80=99d received several = comments that we went way too far overboard in specifying SCIM. The = feedback now is that SCIM protocol is a bit under-defined.=20 It is for this reason that pursuing separate REST protocols for each = content area seems wasteful and costly to build as they will have to = each develop a protocol spec in detail. So to sum up, there appears to be a lot of requests. It is not clear how = many are willing to put in the time. Phil @independentid www.independentid.com = phil.hunt@oracle.com = > On Jul 18, 2016, at 12:54 AM, Alexey Melnikov = wrote: >=20 > Hi, > As per earlier email from Leif, I am going to close the SCIM WG. The > mailing list will remain open. >=20 > If, in the future, people want to work on SCIM extensions or work on > -bis documents, creating a new WG would be an option. >=20 > Best Regards, > Alexey >=20 > _______________________________________________ > scim mailing list > scim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim --Apple-Mail=_135E3434-15F1-4E27-B357-56CF61CC50D8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I think we need to talk about re-chartering if the group has = re-gained interest since the recent interop at the Cloud Identity Summit = in New Orleans.

A = number of items people have requested:

* Refinements and errata based on the = recent informal interop 
* Many requested = enhancements (do people have strong desires?)
  =   - New resource types (e.g. organizations)
    - Polling (e.g. for replication)
    - Identity Events
  =   - Soft Delete
    - Account reset = semantics
    - Extended meta-data = (verfied, expired meta attributes) for complex attributes
    - OAuth Authorization Scope proposal (will be = tabling soon)
    - several = others

Regarding= Identity Events (some work that may come back to the SCIM = WG):
The identity events work may be re-organizing = a bit.  There is informal consensus on the id-events mailing list = to ask for AD sponsorship (has not been requested yet) of the current ID = Event Token draft.  But a few do not want to talk about delivery or = transmission - they want per-area custom REST spec for each of: SCIM, = OAuth Token Revocation, OIDC Logout, and RISC (not to mention HEART and = others).  If this happens SCIM needs a way to deliver messages that = ensures:
* Delivery of multiple messages at a = time
* Detection of lost events
* A recovery mechanism.
The proposal = I=E2=80=99ve work with Craig McMurtry on is to combine the events = distribution draft with his SCIM Polling draft to achieve this. =  The problem?  Should this work be done under SCIM or under a = new ID-Events working group?

As we learned with SCIM, the chief = problem with RESTful services and interop is how to handle error = conditions.  Aside:  Corner cases and error conditions are = actually driving recent requests to revise the SCIM protocol to provide = even more specific details. This is interesting feedback since at the = time of publication, I=E2=80=99d received several comments that we went = way too far overboard in specifying SCIM. The feedback now is that SCIM = protocol is a bit under-defined. 

It is for this reason that pursuing = separate REST protocols for each content area seems wasteful and costly = to build as they will have to each develop a protocol spec in = detail.

So to = sum up, there appears to be a lot of requests. It is not clear how many = are willing to put in the time.




On Jul 18, 2016, at 12:54 AM, Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm> wrote:

Hi,As per earlier email from Leif, I am going to close the SCIM = WG. The
mailing list will remain open.

If, in the future, people want to work on SCIM extensions or = work on
-bis documents, creating a new WG would be an = option.

Best Regards,
Alexey
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So far we've been unable to show such activity. If we crank out some drafts and a couple of "I have reviewed this draft" emails we will probably find the ADs amenable to a SCIMext WG and no time will be lost. Cheers Leif From nobody Tue Jul 19 03:36:36 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietf.org Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A292012D1D2; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 03:36:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IESG Secretary To: "IETF Announcement List" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.28.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160719103631.14510.57090.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 03:36:31 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: scim@ietf.org, moransar@cisco.com, leifj@sunet.se Subject: [scim] WG Action: Conclusion of System for Cross-domain Identity Management (scim) X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 10:36:32 -0000 The System for Cross-domain Identity Management (scim) WG in the Applications and Real-Time Area has completed its milestones and is now being closed. The mailing list will remain open. The IESG contact persons are Ben Campbell, Alexey Melnikov, and Alissa Cooper. Thank you to Morteza Ansari and Leif Johansson for driving this work to completion. 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