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I shall be thankful if I could know the rationale for the following.

The scenario is:

TCP server steps at runtime:

1. sd=socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0) - create socket
2. bind(sd,...)
3. listen(sd,..)
4. setsockopt(sd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF, .....)
5. newSd=accept(sd,...)
6. getsockopt(newSd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF,....)
.....

It has been quite sometime since it was observed that the SO_SNDBUF size which I set on "sd" is also set automatically when for the "newSd".
For example,

  • set "2900" for SO_SNDBUF on "sd" with setsockopt()
  • getsockopt() on "newSd"  shall return "2900" for SO_SNDBUF
I have tested this on a Solaris 2.8 box. And, this seems to be true on some other platforms also.

Since "newSd" is a new/fresh socket descriptor, I would have expected the SO_SNDBUF settings which I did on "sd" NOT to be set on
"newSd".
 

What was the rationale or why was this behavior chosen for  socket libraries?
 

Thanks,

Gaurab
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In addition of setting socket options can it also be used to read the current value of a socket option? For example if I want to set heartbeat interval to some value I would fill out struct sctp_paddrparams with the new value and call sctp_opt_info() with SCTP_SET_PEER_ADDR_PARAMS. But what if I'm just interested in knowing the current value of heartbeat interval? Do I again call sctp_opt_info() and pass struct sctp_paddrparams as an argument and expect that when sctp_opt_info() returns it will be filled with the current data. The problem I see here is that since the calls to set/get the socket option look the same, how does the system know if I want to set or get the socket option. Should I use getsockopt() instead of sctp_opt_info() when I want to read the current value of socket option. Br, Kimmo From rrs@cisco.com Tue Jun 3 11:33:07 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA09923 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NDku-0007DX-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 11:31:20 -0400 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NDkt-0007Bw-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 11:31:19 -0400 Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h53F8O3I027374; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (ssh-sjc-1.cisco.com [171.68.225.134]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.3-GR) with ESMTP id AHX85837; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EDCB9E7.7040308@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 10:08:23 -0500 From: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030323 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kimmo.Rainola@nokia.com CC: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: How to read current value of a socket option with sctp_opt_info() References: <4EFAB02CD1631648856752B7E482C9A312325E@esebe003.ntc.nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <4EFAB02CD1631648856752B7E482C9A312325E@esebe003.ntc.nokia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kimmo.Rainola@nokia.com wrote: >Hi, > >I have a question regarding the use of sctp_opt_info(). In addition of setting socket options can it also be used to read the current value of a socket option? > >For example if I want to set heartbeat interval to some value I would fill out struct sctp_paddrparams with the new value and call sctp_opt_info() with SCTP_SET_PEER_ADDR_PARAMS. But what if I'm just interested in knowing the current value of heartbeat interval? Do I again call sctp_opt_info() and pass struct sctp_paddrparams as an argument and expect that when sctp_opt_info() returns it will be filled with the current data. > >The problem I see here is that since the calls to set/get the socket option look the same, how does the system know if I want to set or get the socket option. Should I use getsockopt() instead of sctp_opt_info() when I want to read the current value of socket option. > >Br, > Kimmo > > > sctp_opt_info() is only getting options. This is due to the fact that on some machines.. you can NOT pass a in-out variable into the getsockopt() call. For BSD machines you can use either getsockopt() OR sctp_opt_info() You CAN NOT use sctp_opt_info() to set any socket option.. R -- Randall R. Stewart ITD Cisco Systems Inc. rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) From rrs@cisco.com Tue Jun 3 11:34:16 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA10001 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NDm1-0007EX-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 11:32:29 -0400 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NDm0-0007E9-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 11:32:29 -0400 Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h53FFl3I003466; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (ssh-sjc-1.cisco.com [171.68.225.134]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.3-GR) with ESMTP id AHX86493; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EDCBBA2.1020906@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 10:15:46 -0500 From: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030323 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gaurab.Paul@oracle.com CC: SCTP Subject: Re: setsockopt() References: <3EDCE39E.9AAAE549@oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <3EDCE39E.9AAAE549@oracle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul: I am a bit confused by this question... is this an SCTP question? It seems like you are talking about TCP or do you mean the TCP-style interface of SCTP... note this nomenclature will be going away in the next draft... Thanks R Gaurab Paul wrote: > Hi, > > I shall be thankful if I could know the rationale for the following. > > The scenario is: > > TCP server steps at runtime: > > 1. sd=socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0) - create socket > 2. bind(sd,...) > 3. listen(sd,..) > 4. setsockopt(sd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF, .....) > 5. newSd=accept(sd,...) > 6. getsockopt(newSd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF,....) > ..... > > It has been quite sometime since it was observed that the SO_SNDBUF > size which I set on "sd" is also set automatically when for the "newSd". > For example, > > * set "2900" for SO_SNDBUF on "sd" with setsockopt() > * getsockopt() on "newSd" shall return "2900" for SO_SNDBUF > > I have tested this on a Solaris 2.8 box. And, this seems to be true on > some other platforms also. > > Since "newSd" is a new/fresh socket descriptor, I would have expected > the SO_SNDBUF settings which I did on "sd" NOT to be set on > "newSd". > > > What was the rationale or why was this behavior chosen for socket > libraries? > > > Thanks, > > Gaurab > > -- Randall R. 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--._68.CC_ED9DCFA_-- From Gaurab.Paul@oracle.com Wed Jun 4 04:34:01 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA07884 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 04:34:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NTgr-0007Xs-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 04:32:13 -0400 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NTgq-0007Xh-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 04:32:12 -0400 Received: from sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com [171.69.11.151]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h547blI2004987 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 00:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy3.cisco.com (proxy3.cisco.com [128.107.241.181]) by sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h547bjQq023514 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 00:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inet-mail1.oracle.com (inet-mail1.oracle.com [148.87.2.201]) by proxy3.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h547cQ8Y016757 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 00:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inet-mail1.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet-mail1.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.0/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id h546jDpY018679 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rgmgw4.us.oracle.com (rgmgw4.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.13]) by inet-mail1.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.0/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id h546jApY018629 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rgmgw4.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmgw4.us.oracle.com (Switch-2.1.5/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id h546j5l05013 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 00:45:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rgmum13.us.oracle.com (rgmum13.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.17]) by rgmgw4.us.oracle.com (Switch-2.1.5/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id h546j1x04742 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 00:45:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from insn085e.idc.oracle.com by rgmum3.us.oracle.com with ESMTP id 226821281054709065; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 00:44:25 -0600 Sender: gpaul@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com Message-ID: <3EDDE03F.42F4F413@oracle.com> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 12:04:15 +0000 From: Gaurab Paul Reply-To: Gaurab.Paul@oracle.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" CC: SCTP Subject: Re: setsockopt() References: <3EDCE39E.9AAAE549@oracle.com> <3EDCBBA2.1020906@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Randall, If this nomenclature goes away in the next draft, then perhaps we should be no longer concerned with this question so far as SCTP is concerned. However, I wanted to know WHY was this behavior opted for in TCP. An "accept()" implementation in UNIX for the example TCP server provided earlier, broadly, 1. Maps listen socket node( vnode type VSOCK, for the listen socket) to a file descriptor. 2. Wait for a connection; ( blocking here, flags from the file descriptor in step 1 are used here). 3. Create a new socket. 4. New socket's local address is SET to be the listen socket's local address. 5. New socket inherits SIOCSPGRP, SS_ASYNC so that any data arriving on the new socket will cause the appropriate signals to be delivered for the new socket. 6. And then, the SOL_SOCKET socket options are inherited from the listener to acceptor. Now, the number of socket options, as we all know are not few. Just to enumerate: SO_DEBUG, SO_REUSEADDR, SO_KEEPALIVE, SO_DONTROUTE, SO_BROADCAST, SO_USELOOPBACK, SO_OOBINLINE, SO_DGRAM_ERRIND, SO_LINGER, SO_SNDBUF, SO_RCVBUF My questions arises because: 1. Since on a succesfull "accept()", a new socket descriptor is returned, it seems logical to think that the new acceptor socket descriptor does NOT have the socket options of the listener socket descriptor. 2. I do not see why - any TCP protocol rules which directly or indirectly enforces that - the socket options needs to be inherited by the acceptor socket descriptor from the listener socket descriptor. 3. And, if we go with "1", then the copy/inherit operations on the acceptor socket descriptor from the listener socket descriptor can be avoided; in the process reducing the CPU cycles etc every time we do an "accept()" . The only reason, if it could be called reason at all, which I could think of is, an INCLINATION to treat the acceptor socket descriptor more like a CHILD descriptor of the listener socket descriptor rather than a NEW socket descriptor. Hence, inheriting the socket options also from the parent. Please note that some properties like local address etc are needed to be inherited. But, as obvious, the above INCLINATION seems rather not so acceptable or reasonable. To reiterate, I shall be thankful if I could know the rationale WHY the behavior described above was chosen. Thanks, Gaurab "Randall Stewart (cisco)" wrote: > Paul: > > I am a bit confused by this question... is this an SCTP question? > > It seems like you are talking about TCP or do you mean the > TCP-style interface of SCTP... note this nomenclature will be > going away in the next draft... > > Thanks > > R > > Gaurab Paul wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I shall be thankful if I could know the rationale for the following. > > > > The scenario is: > > > > TCP server steps at runtime: > > > > 1. sd=socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0) - create socket > > 2. bind(sd,...) > > 3. listen(sd,..) > > 4. setsockopt(sd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF, .....) > > 5. newSd=accept(sd,...) > > 6. getsockopt(newSd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF,....) > > ..... > > > > It has been quite sometime since it was observed that the SO_SNDBUF > > size which I set on "sd" is also set automatically when for the "newSd". > > For example, > > > > * set "2900" for SO_SNDBUF on "sd" with setsockopt() > > * getsockopt() on "newSd" shall return "2900" for SO_SNDBUF > > > > I have tested this on a Solaris 2.8 box. And, this seems to be true on > > some other platforms also. > > > > Since "newSd" is a new/fresh socket descriptor, I would have expected > > the SO_SNDBUF settings which I did on "sd" NOT to be set on > > "newSd". > > > > > > What was the rationale or why was this behavior chosen for socket > > libraries? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gaurab > > > > > > -- > Randall R. Stewart > ITD > Cisco Systems Inc. > rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) From bidulock@openss7.org Wed Jun 4 05:06:03 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA08819 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 05:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NUBq-00001q-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 05:04:14 -0400 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NUBp-00001S-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 05:04:14 -0400 Received: from sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com [171.69.11.151]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h548U3jc028616 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 01:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy3.cisco.com (proxy3.cisco.com [128.107.241.181]) by sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h548U1Qq029406 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 01:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (IDENT:kb4/ijbeSIxc0swEkguP0cu1db+/HDqs@gw.openss7.com [142.179.199.224]) by proxy3.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h548Uf8Y017570 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 01:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:zELBstMcvQRjrs6XvGR/lZ51dcWhGblW@ns1.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.1]) by gw.openss7.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h548MwF19086; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 02:22:58 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by ns.pigworks.openss7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h548Mw318062; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 02:22:58 -0600 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 02:22:58 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: Gaurab Paul Cc: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" , SCTP Subject: Re: setsockopt() Message-ID: <20030604022258.C17530@openss7.org> Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org References: <3EDCE39E.9AAAE549@oracle.com> <3EDCBBA2.1020906@cisco.com> <3EDDE03F.42F4F413@oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3EDDE03F.42F4F413@oracle.com>; from Gaurab.Paul@oracle.com on Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:04:15PM +0000 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: Return-Receipt-To: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by sj-core-5.cisco.com id h548U3jc028616 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ietf.org id FAA08819 Gaurab, How else are you to specify socket options for the accepting socket? In XTI/STREAMS the user would open a new stream set the options how they liked and then accept the T_CONN_IND with T_CONN_RES on the new stream. For sockets, if you do not transfer the socket options from the listening socket, there is no way to specify them. The socket is already fully formed by the time that accept() returns with the file descriptor and the user has lost the chance to specify anything about the accepted socket. So, in sockets, the user specifies the socket options they want on the listening socket, and then calls accept() with the knowledge that the returned socket will have the specified options. Do you see some other rational (and backwards compatible) way for the user to specify socket options for accepted sockets before the accepted socket is fully formed? --brian On Wed, 04 Jun 2003, Gaurab Paul wrote: > Hi Randall, > > If this nomenclature goes away in the next draft, then perhaps we should be no longer concerned > with this question so far as SCTP is concerned. > > However, I wanted to know WHY was this behavior opted for in TCP. > > An "accept()" implementation in UNIX for the example TCP server provided earlier, broadly, > > 1. Maps listen socket node( vnode type VSOCK, for the listen socket) to a file descriptor. > 2. Wait for a connection; ( blocking here, flags from the file descriptor in step 1 are used here). > 3. Create a new socket. > 4. New socket's local address is SET to be the listen socket's local address. > 5. New socket inherits SIOCSPGRP, SS_ASYNC so that any data arriving on the new socket > will cause the appropriate signals to be delivered for the new socket. > 6. And then, the SOL_SOCKET socket options are inherited from the listener to acceptor. > > > Now, the number of socket options, as we all know are not few. Just to enumerate: > > SO_DEBUG, SO_REUSEADDR, SO_KEEPALIVE, SO_DONTROUTE, SO_BROADCAST, > SO_USELOOPBACK, SO_OOBINLINE, SO_DGRAM_ERRIND, SO_LINGER, SO_SNDBUF, > SO_RCVBUF > > > My questions arises because: > > 1. Since on a succesfull "accept()", a new socket descriptor is returned, it seems logical to think that the > new acceptor socket descriptor does NOT have the socket options of the listener socket descriptor. > > 2. I do not see why - any TCP protocol rules which directly or indirectly enforces that - the socket options > needs to be inherited by the acceptor socket descriptor from the listener socket descriptor. > > 3. And, if we go with "1", then the copy/inherit operations on the acceptor socket descriptor from the > listener socket descriptor can be avoided; in the process reducing the CPU cycles etc every time we do an "accept()" . > > > The only reason, if it could be called reason at all, which I could think of is, an INCLINATION to treat the acceptor > socket descriptor more like a CHILD descriptor of the listener socket descriptor rather than a NEW socket descriptor. > Hence, inheriting the socket options also from the parent. Please note that some properties like local address etc are > needed to be inherited. > > But, as obvious, the above INCLINATION seems rather not so acceptable or reasonable. > > To reiterate, I shall be thankful if I could know the rationale WHY the behavior described above was chosen. > > Thanks, > > Gaurab > > > "Randall Stewart (cisco)" wrote: > > > Paul: > > > > I am a bit confused by this question... is this an SCTP question? > > > > It seems like you are talking about TCP or do you mean the > > TCP-style interface of SCTP... note this nomenclature will be > > going away in the next draft... > > > > Thanks > > > > R > > > > Gaurab Paul wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I shall be thankful if I could know the rationale for the following. > > > > > > The scenario is: > > > > > > TCP server steps at runtime: > > > > > > 1. sd=socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0) - create socket > > > 2. bind(sd,...) > > > 3. listen(sd,..) > > > 4. setsockopt(sd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF, .....) > > > 5. newSd=accept(sd,...) > > > 6. getsockopt(newSd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF,....) > > > ..... > > > > > > It has been quite sometime since it was observed that the SO_SNDBUF > > > size which I set on "sd" is also set automatically when for the "newSd". > > > For example, > > > > > > * set "2900" for SO_SNDBUF on "sd" with setsockopt() > > > * getsockopt() on "newSd" shall return "2900" for SO_SNDBUF > > > > > > I have tested this on a Solaris 2.8 box. And, this seems to be true on > > > some other platforms also. > > > > > > Since "newSd" is a new/fresh socket descriptor, I would have expected > > > the SO_SNDBUF settings which I did on "sd" NOT to be set on > > > "newSd". > > > > > > > > > What was the rationale or why was this behavior chosen for socket > > > libraries? > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Gaurab > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Randall R. Stewart > > ITD > > Cisco Systems Inc. > > rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) -- Brian F. G. 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countyhalcyonex wvn qymrjq cg p --..CCAD5BD0.8E_9F2_D3.0A-- From Gaurab.Paul@oracle.com Wed Jun 4 09:26:34 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA18331 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:26:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NYFx-0002cu-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 09:24:45 -0400 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NYFw-0002cS-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 09:24:44 -0400 Received: from sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com [171.70.145.31]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h54Cn43I012815 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 05:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy2.cisco.com (proxy2.cisco.com [128.107.241.180]) by sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h54CVvlK014395 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 05:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inet-mail1.oracle.com (inet-mail1.oracle.com [148.87.2.201]) by proxy2.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h54BNtXf026710 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 04:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inet-mail1.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet-mail1.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.0/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id h54AYxpY025631 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 03:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rgmgw4.us.oracle.com (rgmgw4.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.13]) by inet-mail1.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.0/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id h54AYwpY025574 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 03:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rgmgw4.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmgw4.us.oracle.com (Switch-2.1.5/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id h54AYul02227 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 04:34:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rgmum1.us.oracle.com (rgmum1.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.22]) by rgmgw4.us.oracle.com (Switch-2.1.5/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id h54AYux02213 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 04:34:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from insn085e.idc.oracle.com by rgmum1.us.oracle.com with ESMTP id 227479691054722867; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 04:34:27 -0600 Sender: gpaul@rgmgw4.us.oracle.com Message-ID: <3EDE162A.3F2396F4@oracle.com> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 15:54:18 +0000 From: Gaurab Paul Reply-To: Gaurab.Paul@oracle.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bidulock@openss7.org CC: SCTP Subject: Re: setsockopt() References: <3EDCE39E.9AAAE549@oracle.com> <3EDCBBA2.1020906@cisco.com> <3EDDE03F.42F4F413@oracle.com> <20030604022258.C17530@openss7.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------206D63749984B72A687BEB47" --------------206D63749984B72A687BEB47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by sj-core-2.cisco.com id h54Cn43I012815 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brian, How else are you to specify socket options for the accepting socket? For the acceptor socket, to specify options say for SO_SNDBUF, TCP server= steps at runtime could be : 1. sd=3Dsocket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0) - create socket 2. bind(sd,...) 3. listen(sd,..) 4. setsockopt(sd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF, ....., OLD_BUF_SIZ) 5. newSd=3Daccept(sd,...) 6. setsockopt(newSd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF, ....., NEW_BUF_SIZ) 7. getsockopt(newSd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF,....) This is working fine in Solaris 2.8 at least. However, for some specific socket options, there COULD be a restriction. In XTI/STREAMS the user would open a new stream set the options how they liked and then accept the T_CONN_IND with T_CONN_RES on the new stream. For sockets, if you do not transfer the socket options from the listening socket, there is no way to specify them. The socket is already fully for= med by the time that accept() returns with the file descriptor and the user has lost the chance to specify anything about the accepted socket. So, in sockets, the user specifies the socket options they want on the listening socket, and then calls accept() with the knowledge that the returned socket will have the specified options. "fully formed" as you say. There is NOTHING WRONG which I see as such :-= ) However, as I had indicated earlier, we could have at least saved a few h= undred CPU instructions if by default we did not make the acceptor socket inherit al= l the options of the listening socket on every successfull "accept()". The advantage, however, is that in the current framework, setting the opt= ions in the listener socket helps the user in NOT writing the code to modify the sock= et options for each acceptor socket. Modify once in the listener socket, avail it o= n all acceptor sockets. On the other hand, if he/she wishes to override the socket options for th= e listener socket, he/she could do so. Flexiblility and performance, isn't it? Do you see some other rational (and backwards compatible) way for the user to specify socket options for accepted sockets before the accepted socket is fully formed? I do not understand the question. If you do not mind, could you please ex= plain. Thanks, Gaurab "Brian F. G. Bidulock" wrote: > Gaurab, > > How else are you to specify socket options for the accepting socket? > > In XTI/STREAMS the user would open a new stream set the options how > they liked and then accept the T_CONN_IND with T_CONN_RES on the new > stream. > > For sockets, if you do not transfer the socket options from the listeni= ng > socket, there is no way to specify them. The socket is already fully f= ormed > by the time that accept() returns with the file descriptor and the user > has lost the chance to specify anything about the accepted socket. > > So, in sockets, the user specifies the socket options they want on the > listening socket, and then calls accept() with the knowledge that the > returned socket will have the specified options. > > Do you see some other rational (and backwards compatible) way for the > user to specify socket options for accepted sockets before the accepted > socket is fully formed? > > --brian > > On Wed, 04 Jun 2003, Gaurab Paul wrote: > > > Hi Randall, > > > > If this nomenclature goes away in the next draft, then perhaps we sho= uld be no longer concerned > > with this question so far as SCTP is concerned. > > > > However, I wanted to know WHY was this behavior opted for in TCP. > > > > An "accept()" implementation in UNIX for the example TCP server provi= ded earlier, broadly, > > > > 1. Maps listen socket node( vnode type VSOCK, for the listen socket) = to a file descriptor. > > 2. Wait for a connection; ( blocking here, flags from the file descri= ptor in step 1 are used here). > > 3. Create a new socket. > > 4. New socket's local address is SET to be the listen socket's local = address. > > 5. New socket inherits SIOCSPGRP, SS_ASYNC so that any data arriving= on the new socket > > will cause the appropriate signals to be delivered for the new s= ocket. > > 6. And then, the SOL_SOCKET socket options are inherited from the lis= tener to acceptor. > > > > > > Now, the number of socket options, as we all know are not few. Just t= o enumerate: > > > > SO_DEBUG, SO_REUSEADDR, SO_KEEPALIVE, SO_DONTROUTE, SO_BROADCAST, > > SO_USELOOPBACK, SO_OOBINLINE, SO_DGRAM_ERRIND, SO_LINGER, SO_SNDBUF, > > SO_RCVBUF > > > > > > My questions arises because: > > > > 1. Since on a succesfull "accept()", a new socket descriptor is retur= ned, it seems logical to think that the > > new acceptor socket descriptor does NOT have the socket options of t= he listener socket descriptor. > > > > 2. I do not see why - any TCP protocol rules which directly or indire= ctly enforces that - the socket options > > needs to be inherited by the acceptor socket descriptor from the list= ener socket descriptor. > > > > 3. And, if we go with "1", then the copy/inherit operations on the ac= ceptor socket descriptor from the > > listener socket descriptor can be avoided; in the process reducing th= e CPU cycles etc every time we do an "accept()" . > > > > > > The only reason, if it could be called reason at all, which I could t= hink of is, an INCLINATION to treat the acceptor > > socket descriptor more like a CHILD descriptor of the listener socket= descriptor rather than a NEW socket descriptor. > > Hence, inheriting the socket options also from the parent. Please not= e that some properties like local address etc are > > needed to be inherited. > > > > But, as obvious, the above INCLINATION seems rather not so acceptable= or reasonable. > > > > To reiterate, I shall be thankful if I could know the rationale WHY t= he behavior described above was chosen. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gaurab > > > > > > "Randall Stewart (cisco)" wrote: > > > > > Paul: > > > > > > I am a bit confused by this question... is this an SCTP question? > > > > > > It seems like you are talking about TCP or do you mean the > > > TCP-style interface of SCTP... note this nomenclature will be > > > going away in the next draft... > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > R > > > > > > Gaurab Paul wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I shall be thankful if I could know the rationale for the followi= ng. > > > > > > > > The scenario is: > > > > > > > > TCP server steps at runtime: > > > > > > > > 1. sd=3Dsocket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0) - create socket > > > > 2. bind(sd,...) > > > > 3. listen(sd,..) > > > > 4. setsockopt(sd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF, .....) > > > > 5. newSd=3Daccept(sd,...) > > > > 6. getsockopt(newSd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF,....) > > > > ..... > > > > > > > > It has been quite sometime since it was observed that the SO_SNDB= UF > > > > size which I set on "sd" is also set automatically when for the "= newSd". > > > > For example, > > > > > > > > * set "2900" for SO_SNDBUF on "sd" with setsockopt() > > > > * getsockopt() on "newSd" shall return "2900" for SO_SNDBUF > > > > > > > > I have tested this on a Solaris 2.8 box. And, this seems to be tr= ue on > > > > some other platforms also. > > > > > > > > Since "newSd" is a new/fresh socket descriptor, I would have expe= cted > > > > the SO_SNDBUF settings which I did on "sd" NOT to be set on > > > > "newSd". > > > > > > > > > > > > What was the rationale or why was this behavior chosen for socke= t > > > > libraries? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Gaurab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Randall R. Stewart > > > ITD > > > Cisco Systems Inc. > > > rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) > > -- > Brian F. G. Bidulock =A6 The reasonable man adapts himself to the =A6 > bidulock@openss7.org =A6 world; the unreasonable one persists in =A6 > http://www.openss7.org/ =A6 trying to adapt the world to himself. =A6 > =A6 Therefore all progress depends on the =A6 > =A6 unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw =A6 --------------206D63749984B72A687BEB47 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brian,

How else are you to specify socket options for the accepting socket?

For the acceptor socket, to specify options say for SO_SNDBUF, TCP server steps at runtime could be :

1. sd=socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0) - create socket
2. bind(sd,...)
3. listen(sd,..)
4. setsockopt(sd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF, ....., OLD_BUF_SIZ)
5. newSd=accept(sd,...)
6. setsockopt(newSd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF, ....., NEW_BUF_SIZ)
7. getsockopt(newSd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF,....)

This  is working fine in Solaris 2.8 at least.

However, for some specific socket options, there COULD be a restriction.

In XTI/STREAMS the user would open a new stream set the options how
they liked and then accept the T_CONN_IND with T_CONN_RES on the new
stream.

For sockets, if you do not transfer the socket options from the listening
socket, there is no way to specify them.  The socket is already fully formed
by the time that accept() returns with the file descriptor and the user
has lost the chance to specify anything about the accepted socket.

So, in sockets, the user specifies the socket options they want on the
listening socket, and then calls accept() with the knowledge that the
returned socket will have the specified options.
 

"fully formed"  as you say. There is NOTHING WRONG which I see as such :-)

However, as I had indicated earlier, we could have at least saved a few hundred CPU
instructions if by default we did not make the acceptor socket inherit all the options of the
listening socket on every successfull "accept()".

The advantage, however, is that in the current framework, setting the options in the
listener socket helps the user in NOT writing the code to modify the socket options
for each acceptor socket.  Modify once in the listener socket, avail it on all acceptor sockets.

On the other hand, if he/she wishes to override the socket options for the listener socket,
he/she could do so. Flexiblility and performance, isn't  it?

Do you see some other rational (and backwards compatible) way for the
user to specify socket options for accepted sockets before the accepted
socket is fully formed?

I do not understand the question. If you do not mind, could you please explain.

Thanks,

Gaurab
 
 

"Brian F. G. Bidulock" wrote:

Gaurab,

How else are you to specify socket options for the accepting socket?

In XTI/STREAMS the user would open a new stream set the options how
they liked and then accept the T_CONN_IND with T_CONN_RES on the new
stream.

For sockets, if you do not transfer the socket options from the listening
socket, there is no way to specify them.  The socket is already fully formed
by the time that accept() returns with the file descriptor and the user
has lost the chance to specify anything about the accepted socket.

So, in sockets, the user specifies the socket options they want on the
listening socket, and then calls accept() with the knowledge that the
returned socket will have the specified options.

Do you see some other rational (and backwards compatible) way for the
user to specify socket options for accepted sockets before the accepted
socket is fully formed?

--brian

On Wed, 04 Jun 2003, Gaurab Paul wrote:

> Hi Randall,
>
> If this nomenclature goes away in the next draft, then perhaps we should be no longer concerned
> with this question so far as SCTP is concerned.
>
> However, I wanted to know WHY was this behavior opted for in TCP.
>
> An "accept()" implementation in UNIX for the example TCP server provided earlier, broadly,
>
> 1. Maps listen socket node( vnode type VSOCK, for the listen socket) to a file descriptor.
> 2. Wait for a connection; ( blocking here, flags from the file descriptor in step 1 are used here).
> 3. Create a new socket.
> 4. New socket's local address is SET to be the listen socket's local address.
> 5. New socket inherits SIOCSPGRP, SS_ASYNC  so that any data arriving on the new socket
>      will cause the appropriate signals to be delivered for the new socket.
> 6. And then, the SOL_SOCKET socket options are inherited from the listener to acceptor.
>
>
> Now, the number of socket options, as we all know are not few. Just to enumerate:
>
> SO_DEBUG, SO_REUSEADDR, SO_KEEPALIVE, SO_DONTROUTE, SO_BROADCAST,
> SO_USELOOPBACK, SO_OOBINLINE, SO_DGRAM_ERRIND, SO_LINGER, SO_SNDBUF,
> SO_RCVBUF
>
>
> My questions arises because:
>
> 1. Since on a succesfull "accept()", a new socket descriptor is returned, it seems logical to think that the
> new acceptor socket descriptor does NOT have the  socket options of the listener socket descriptor.
>
> 2. I do not see why - any TCP protocol rules which directly or indirectly enforces that -  the socket options
> needs to be inherited by the acceptor socket descriptor from the listener socket descriptor.
>
> 3. And, if we go with "1", then the copy/inherit operations on the acceptor socket descriptor from the
> listener socket descriptor can be avoided; in the process reducing the CPU cycles etc every time we do an "accept()" .
>
>
> The only reason, if it could be called reason at all, which I could think of is, an INCLINATION to treat the acceptor
> socket descriptor more like a CHILD descriptor of the listener socket descriptor rather than a NEW socket descriptor.
> Hence, inheriting the socket options also from the parent. Please note that some properties like local address etc are
> needed to be inherited.
>
> But, as obvious, the above INCLINATION seems rather not so acceptable or reasonable.
>
> To reiterate, I shall be thankful if I could know the rationale WHY the  behavior described above was chosen.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gaurab
>
>
> "Randall Stewart (cisco)" wrote:
>
> > Paul:
> >
> > I am a bit confused by this question... is this an SCTP question?
> >
> > It seems like you are talking about TCP or do you mean the
> > TCP-style interface of SCTP... note this nomenclature will be
> > going away in the next draft...
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > R
> >
> > Gaurab Paul wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I shall be thankful if I could know the rationale for the following.
> > >
> > > The scenario is:
> > >
> > > TCP server steps at runtime:
> > >
> > > 1. sd=socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0) - create socket
> > > 2. bind(sd,...)
> > > 3. listen(sd,..)
> > > 4. setsockopt(sd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF, .....)
> > > 5. newSd=accept(sd,...)
> > > 6. getsockopt(newSd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF,....)
> > > .....
> > >
> > > It has been quite sometime since it was observed that the SO_SNDBUF
> > > size which I set on "sd" is also set automatically when for the "newSd".
> > > For example,
> > >
> > >     * set "2900" for SO_SNDBUF on "sd" with setsockopt()
> > >     * getsockopt() on "newSd"  shall return "2900" for SO_SNDBUF
> > >
> > > I have tested this on a Solaris 2.8 box. And, this seems to be true on
> > > some other platforms also.
> > >
> > > Since "newSd" is a new/fresh socket descriptor, I would have expected
> > > the SO_SNDBUF settings which I did on "sd" NOT to be set on
> > > "newSd".
> > >
> > >
> > > What was the rationale or why was this behavior chosen for  socket
> > > libraries?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Gaurab
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Randall R. Stewart
> > ITD
> > Cisco Systems Inc.
> > rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office)

--
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bidulock@openss7.org    ¦ world; the unreasonable one persists in  ¦
http://www.openss7.org/ ¦ trying  to adapt the  world  to himself. ¦
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--------------206D63749984B72A687BEB47-- From rrs@cisco.com Wed Jun 4 09:46:26 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA19178 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:46:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NYZB-0002my-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 09:44:37 -0400 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NYZB-0002mP-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 09:44:37 -0400 Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h54Daj3I018749; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 06:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (ssh-sjc-1.cisco.com [171.68.225.134]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.3-GR) with ESMTP id AHZ08235; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 06:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EDDF5EB.2010405@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 08:36:43 -0500 From: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030323 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gaurab.Paul@oracle.com CC: SCTP Subject: Re: setsockopt() References: <3EDCE39E.9AAAE549@oracle.com> <3EDCBBA2.1020906@cisco.com> <3EDDE03F.42F4F413@oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <3EDDE03F.42F4F413@oracle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gaurab Paul wrote: >Hi Randall, > >If this nomenclature goes away in the next draft, then perhaps we should be no longer concerned >with this question so far as SCTP is concerned. > >However, I wanted to know WHY was this behavior opted for in TCP. > > Ok, it is always good to know the background of such things.. but the problem here is I think you ask the wrong list... You need to find the appropriate TCP list to ask this question... since it seems to me you are asking why the designers of sockets for TCP made particular choices... the folks on this list are focused on SCTP and might be able to answer such a question about SCTP.. but I would expect most of what you would receive here on TCP is not an acurate dipiction of why TCP made certian choices... since I doubt that most of the folks on the list had anything to do with those choices... I am sure there is a better list to ask this qeustion too... even TSVWG probably has some of the folks that were working on TCP back then.. also a hunt of the comp.xxx.. mailing lists probably has a tcp one in there somewhere :-0 R >An "accept()" implementation in UNIX for the example TCP server provided earlier, broadly, > >1. Maps listen socket node( vnode type VSOCK, for the listen socket) to a file descriptor. >2. Wait for a connection; ( blocking here, flags from the file descriptor in step 1 are used here). >3. Create a new socket. >4. New socket's local address is SET to be the listen socket's local address. >5. New socket inherits SIOCSPGRP, SS_ASYNC so that any data arriving on the new socket > will cause the appropriate signals to be delivered for the new socket. >6. And then, the SOL_SOCKET socket options are inherited from the listener to acceptor. > > >Now, the number of socket options, as we all know are not few. Just to enumerate: > >SO_DEBUG, SO_REUSEADDR, SO_KEEPALIVE, SO_DONTROUTE, SO_BROADCAST, >SO_USELOOPBACK, SO_OOBINLINE, SO_DGRAM_ERRIND, SO_LINGER, SO_SNDBUF, >SO_RCVBUF > > >My questions arises because: > >1. Since on a succesfull "accept()", a new socket descriptor is returned, it seems logical to think that the >new acceptor socket descriptor does NOT have the socket options of the listener socket descriptor. > >2. I do not see why - any TCP protocol rules which directly or indirectly enforces that - the socket options >needs to be inherited by the acceptor socket descriptor from the listener socket descriptor. > >3. And, if we go with "1", then the copy/inherit operations on the acceptor socket descriptor from the >listener socket descriptor can be avoided; in the process reducing the CPU cycles etc every time we do an "accept()" . > > >The only reason, if it could be called reason at all, which I could think of is, an INCLINATION to treat the acceptor >socket descriptor more like a CHILD descriptor of the listener socket descriptor rather than a NEW socket descriptor. >Hence, inheriting the socket options also from the parent. Please note that some properties like local address etc are >needed to be inherited. > >But, as obvious, the above INCLINATION seems rather not so acceptable or reasonable. > >To reiterate, I shall be thankful if I could know the rationale WHY the behavior described above was chosen. > >Thanks, > >Gaurab > > >"Randall Stewart (cisco)" wrote: > > > >>Paul: >> >>I am a bit confused by this question... is this an SCTP question? >> >>It seems like you are talking about TCP or do you mean the >>TCP-style interface of SCTP... note this nomenclature will be >>going away in the next draft... >> >>Thanks >> >>R >> >>Gaurab Paul wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi, >>> >>>I shall be thankful if I could know the rationale for the following. >>> >>>The scenario is: >>> >>>TCP server steps at runtime: >>> >>>1. sd=socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0) - create socket >>>2. bind(sd,...) >>>3. listen(sd,..) >>>4. setsockopt(sd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF, .....) >>>5. newSd=accept(sd,...) >>>6. getsockopt(newSd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF,....) >>>..... >>> >>>It has been quite sometime since it was observed that the SO_SNDBUF >>>size which I set on "sd" is also set automatically when for the "newSd". >>>For example, >>> >>> * set "2900" for SO_SNDBUF on "sd" with setsockopt() >>> * getsockopt() on "newSd" shall return "2900" for SO_SNDBUF >>> >>>I have tested this on a Solaris 2.8 box. And, this seems to be true on >>>some other platforms also. >>> >>>Since "newSd" is a new/fresh socket descriptor, I would have expected >>>the SO_SNDBUF settings which I did on "sd" NOT to be set on >>>"newSd". >>> >>> >>>What was the rationale or why was this behavior chosen for socket >>>libraries? >>> >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Gaurab >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Randall R. Stewart >>ITD >>Cisco Systems Inc. >>rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) >> >> > > > > -- Randall R. Stewart ITD Cisco Systems Inc. rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) From bidulock@openss7.org Wed Jun 4 14:15:52 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA04470 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 14:15:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Nclu-0006QV-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 14:14:02 -0400 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Nclt-0006QJ-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 14:14:02 -0400 Received: from sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com [171.69.17.42]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h54Hlrjc016155 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:47:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy2.cisco.com (proxy2.cisco.com [128.107.241.180]) by sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h54HlpCU002946 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (IDENT:WiRPYE0hNlhsQbQRMNX/2EmUweGaU4M7@gw.openss7.com [142.179.199.224]) by proxy2.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h54HgEJ0015225 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:DNdGdQ0r17s5sMbyHPNq54ncNdZMUIo9@ns1.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.1]) by gw.openss7.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h54HcvF27344; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 11:38:57 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by ns.pigworks.openss7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h54Hcup25798; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 11:38:56 -0600 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 11:38:56 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: Gaurab Paul Cc: SCTP Subject: Re: setsockopt() Message-ID: <20030604113856.A25664@openss7.org> Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org References: <3EDCE39E.9AAAE549@oracle.com> <3EDCBBA2.1020906@cisco.com> <3EDDE03F.42F4F413@oracle.com> <20030604022258.C17530@openss7.org> <3EDE162A.3F2396F4@oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3EDE162A.3F2396F4@oracle.com>; from Gaurab.Paul@oracle.com on Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 03:54:18PM +0000 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: Return-Receipt-To: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by sj-core-5.cisco.com id h54Hlrjc016155 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ietf.org id OAA04470 Gaurab, On Wed, 04 Jun 2003, Gaurab Paul wrote: > > Brian, > > How else are you to specify socket options for the accepting socket? > > For the acceptor socket, to specify options say for SO_SNDBUF, TCP > server steps at runtime could be : > > 1. sd=socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0) - create socket > 2. bind(sd,...) > 3. listen(sd,..) > 4. setsockopt(sd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF, ....., OLD_BUF_SIZ) > 5. newSd=accept(sd,...) Your program gets scheduled here.... > 6. setsockopt(newSd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF, ....., NEW_BUF_SIZ) Too late. Your socket has been running for some time with some "other" options. Not the listening socket's options according to your argument. Consider SO_DEBUG or SO_OOBINLINE. > 7. getsockopt(newSd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_SNDBUF,....) > > This is working fine in Solaris 2.8 at least. > > However, for some specific socket options, there COULD be a > restriction. > > In XTI/STREAMS the user would open a new stream set the options how they > liked and then accept the T_CONN_IND with T_CONN_RES on the new stream. > > For sockets, if you do not transfer the socket options from the > listening socket, there is no way to specify them. The socket is > already fully formed by the time that accept() returns with the file > descriptor and the user has lost the chance to specify anything about the > accepted socket. > > So, in sockets, the user specifies the socket options they want on the > listening socket, and then calls accept() with the knowledge that the > returned socket will have the specified options. > > "fully formed" as you say. There is NOTHING WRONG which I see as such > :-) > > However, as I had indicated earlier, we could have at least saved a > few hundred CPU instructions if by default we did not make the acceptor > socket inherit all the options of the listening socket on every > successfull "accept()". You are assuming what the user program will do. Perchance the user will immediately close() the socket because the user program doesn't like the calling address. Then all the accept() cycles were wasted. Perchance the user will set all of the same options on the accepted socket as were set on the listening socket, one by one, generating a setsockopt call for each option. Wasting even more cycles. > > The advantage, however, is that in the current framework, setting the > options in the listener socket helps the user in NOT writing the code > to modify the socket options for each acceptor socket. Modify once in > the listener socket, avail it on all acceptor sockets. > > On the other hand, if he/she wishes to override the socket options for > the listener socket, he/she could do so. Flexiblility and performance, > isn't it? > > Do you see some other rational (and backwards compatible) way for the > user to specify socket options for accepted sockets before the > accepted socket is fully formed? > > I do not understand the question. If you do not mind, could you please > explain. How else can you change socket options on a socket BEFORE it is FULLY FORMED. --brian -- Brian F. G. 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--1F6A_4__D_B83FD-- From yuzhou@ece.ubc.ca Thu Jun 5 06:15:47 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA13733 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 06:15:47 -0400 (EDT) From: yuzhou@ece.ubc.ca Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Nrkq-0004j4-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 06:13:56 -0400 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Nrkq-0004j0-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 06:13:56 -0400 Received: from sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com [171.70.145.31]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h559d6Oo018653 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy1.cisco.com (proxy1.cisco.com [128.107.241.179]) by sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h559cZSa019744 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice.ece.ubc.ca (postfix@postoffice.ece.ubc.ca [137.82.52.84]) by proxy1.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h559csFP028556 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postoffice.ece.ubc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE62738A31; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deliver1.ece.ubc.ca (deliver1.ece.ubc.ca [137.82.52.165]) by postoffice.ece.ubc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3D538A2E for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by deliver1.ece.ubc.ca (Postfix, from userid 33) id AA163479A9; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 218.2.143.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user yuzhou) by www.ece.ubc.ca with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <62302.218.2.143.2.1054804283.squirrel@www.ece.ubc.ca> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 02:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Definition of TSN To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.7) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS + NOD32 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Is TSN unique in an endpoint? Or it is unique in a stream if an endpoint has several streams. I guess it is unique in an endpoint, even when it has several streams. Am I right? Regards, Zhou Yu ECE UBC From Kimmo.Rainola@nokia.com Thu Jun 5 07:46:28 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA16429 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 07:46:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Kimmo.Rainola@nokia.com Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NtAa-0005CR-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 07:44:36 -0400 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NtAZ-0005CN-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 07:44:35 -0400 Received: from sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com [171.70.145.31]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h55BJf3I005598 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 04:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy3.cisco.com (proxy3.cisco.com [128.107.241.181]) by sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h55BJASa028599 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 04:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgw-x1.nokia.com (mgw-x1.nokia.com [131.228.20.21]) by proxy3.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h55BKHrV019741 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 04:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esvir01nok.ntc.nokia.com (esvir01nokt.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.33]) by mgw-x1.nokia.com (Switch-2.2.6/Switch-2.2.6) with ESMTP id h55ArKW13231 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:53:21 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from esebh004.NOE.Nokia.com (unverified) by esvir01nok.ntc.nokia.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:53:20 +0300 Received: from esebh005.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.86]) by esebh004.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6139); Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:53:20 +0300 Received: from esebe003.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.39]) by esebh005.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6139); Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:53:19 +0300 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: How to read current value of a socket option with sctp_opt_info() Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 13:53:19 +0300 Message-ID: <4EFAB02CD1631648856752B7E482C9A3123260@esebe003.ntc.nokia.com> Thread-Topic: How to read current value of a socket option with sctp_opt_info() Thread-Index: AcMp5pANIZ9aeXMPQJ6nxiBK8375rwBZKAEw To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2003 10:53:19.0923 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD2C1030:01C32B50] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ietf.org id HAA16429 Hi, Since sctp_opt_info() is read only it seems redundant and sometimes conflicting that many of the options have SET/GET as part of the option name. If sctp_opt_info() is used to query a socket option we know that it is always GET. If getsockopt() is used, the function call implies that this is a GET operation. If setsockopt() is used, the function call implies that this is SET operation Sometimes it is not very intuitive whether it is a set or a get. For example at the moment to query Peer Address Parameters I would call sctp_opt_info (.. ,SCTP_SET_PEER_ADDR_PARAMS, ..) or (in BSD systems) getsockopt (.. ,SCTP_SET_PEER_ADDR_PARAMS, ..). --Kimmo > -----Original Message----- > From: ext Randall Stewart (cisco) [mailto:rrs@cisco.com] > Sent: 03 June, 2003 18:08 > To: Rainola Kimmo (NET/Helsinki) > Cc: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com > Subject: Re: How to read current value of a socket option with > sctp_opt_info() > > > Kimmo.Rainola@nokia.com wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I have a question regarding the use of sctp_opt_info(). In > addition of setting socket options can it also be used to > read the current value of a socket option? > > > >For example if I want to set heartbeat interval to some > value I would fill out struct sctp_paddrparams with the new > value and call sctp_opt_info() with > SCTP_SET_PEER_ADDR_PARAMS. But what if I'm just interested in > knowing the current value of heartbeat interval? Do I again > call sctp_opt_info() and pass struct sctp_paddrparams as an > argument and expect that when sctp_opt_info() returns it will > be filled with the current data. > > > >The problem I see here is that since the calls to set/get > the socket option look the same, how does the system know if > I want to set or get the socket option. Should I use > getsockopt() instead of sctp_opt_info() when I want to read > the current value of socket option. > > > >Br, > > Kimmo > > > > > > > sctp_opt_info() > > is only getting options. This is due to the fact that on > some machines.. you can NOT pass a in-out variable into the > getsockopt() call. > > For BSD machines you can use either getsockopt() OR sctp_opt_info() > > You CAN NOT use sctp_opt_info() to set any socket option.. > > R > > -- > Randall R. 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Say one endpoint has 2 outbound streams to another endpoint. It sent one massage in the first stream and then sent another message in the second stream. How does the TSN increase? Do we have only one TSN counter in the endpoint? Or do we have one TSN counter in each independent stream? Regards, Zhou Yu ECE UBC > > > > > Hi, > > THe TSN is sequence number which is unique for each data message and > is independent of any stream sequence number assigned at the stream > level. > > The reciever of data acknowledeges this number in the sack. > > regards > manish > > Hughes Software Systems > http://www.hssworld.com > >> Hi, >> Is TSN unique in an endpoint? Or it is unique in a stream if an >> endpoint has several streams. I guess it is unique in an endpoint, >> even when it has several streams. Am I right? >> Regards, >> >> Zhou Yu >> ECE UBC >> > > "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Hughes Software Systems > Limited (HSS) and is intended solely for the use of the individual to > whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged or confidential > information and should not be circulated or used for any purpose other > than for what it is intended. If you have received this message in > error, please notify the originator immediately. If you are not the > intended recipient, you are notified that you are strictly prohibited > from using, copying, altering, or disclosing the contents of this > message. HSS accepts no responsibility for loss or damage arising from > the use of the information transmitted by this email including damage > from virus." From mrajpal@hss.hns.com Thu Jun 5 09:21:35 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA23964 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:21:35 -0400 (EDT) From: mrajpal@hss.hns.com Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Nued-0006lM-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 09:19:43 -0400 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Nuec-0006lD-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 09:19:42 -0400 Received: from sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com [171.70.145.31]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h55D32I2025945 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 06:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy3.cisco.com (proxy3.cisco.com [128.107.241.181]) by sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h55D2VSa011163 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 06:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hindon.hss.co.in (hindon.hss.co.in [202.54.26.202]) by proxy3.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h55D3crb016734 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 06:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hindon.hss.co.in (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hindon.hss.co.in (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id h55C7uh04543 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:37:57 +0530 (IST) Received: from ultra.hss.co.in (ultra [192.168.100.5]) by hindon.hss.co.in (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id h55C7t904531; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:37:55 +0530 (IST) Received: from sandesh.hss.hns.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra.hss.co.in (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id h55CBLq28200; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:41:21 +0530 (IST) Subject: Re: Definition of TSN To: "yuzhou@ece.ubc.ca" , "sctp-impl@external.cisco.com" Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:34:56 +0530 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Sandesh/HSS(Release 6.0|September 26, 2002) at 05/06/2003 05:35:31 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi, THe TSN is sequence number which is unique for each data message and is independent of any stream sequence number assigned at the stream level. The reciever of data acknowledeges this number in the sack. regards manish Hughes Software Systems http://www.hssworld.com > Hi, > Is TSN unique in an endpoint? Or it is unique in a stream if an endpoint > has several streams. I guess it is unique in an endpoint, even when it has > several streams. Am I right? > Regards, > > Zhou Yu > ECE UBC > "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Hughes Software Systems Limited (HSS) and is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged or confidential information and should not be circulated or used for any purpose other than for what it is intended. If you have received this message in error, please notify the originator immediately. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that you are strictly prohibited from using, copying, altering, or disclosing the contents of this message. HSS accepts no responsibility for loss or damage arising from the use of the information transmitted by this email including damage from virus." From mrajpal@hss.hns.com Thu Jun 5 09:53:26 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA25659 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 09:53:26 -0400 (EDT) From: mrajpal@hss.hns.com Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Nv9T-00076t-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 09:51:35 -0400 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Nv9S-00076e-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 09:51:34 -0400 Received: from sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com [171.69.17.42]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h55DFGI2001588 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 06:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy3.cisco.com (proxy3.cisco.com [128.107.241.181]) by sj-msg-av-3.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h55DFDCU015279 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 06:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hindon.hss.co.in (hindon.hss.co.in [202.54.26.202]) by proxy3.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h55DFprb024285 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 06:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hindon.hss.co.in (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hindon.hss.co.in (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id h55CK8U07050 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:50:09 +0530 (IST) Received: from ultra.hss.co.in (ultra [192.168.100.5]) by hindon.hss.co.in (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id h55CK7907045; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:50:08 +0530 (IST) Received: from sandesh.hss.hns.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ultra.hss.co.in (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id h55CNXR29300; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:53:33 +0530 (IST) Subject: Re: Definition of TSN To: Cc: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:47:09 +0530 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Sandesh/HSS(Release 6.0|September 26, 2002) at 05/06/2003 05:47:43 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII There is one and only one TSN counter for each association. The sequencing within streams is maintained using Stream Sequence Number (SSN). regards Manish Hughes Software Systems http://www.hssworld.com on 06/05/2003 05:48:58 PM To: Manish Rajpal/HSS@HSS cc: Subject: Re: Definition of TSN Hi, I have a doubt. Say one endpoint has 2 outbound streams to another endpoint. It sent one massage in the first stream and then sent another message in the second stream. How does the TSN increase? Do we have only one TSN counter in the endpoint? Or do we have one TSN counter in each independent stream? Regards, Zhou Yu ECE UBC > > > > > Hi, > > THe TSN is sequence number which is unique for each data message and > is independent of any stream sequence number assigned at the stream > level. > > The reciever of data acknowledeges this number in the sack. > > regards > manish > > Hughes Software Systems > http://www.hssworld.com > >> Hi, >> Is TSN unique in an endpoint? Or it is unique in a stream if an >> endpoint has several streams. I guess it is unique in an endpoint, >> even when it has several streams. Am I right? >> Regards, >> >> Zhou Yu >> ECE UBC >> > > "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Hughes Software Systems > Limited (HSS) and is intended solely for the use of the individual to > whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged or confidential > information and should not be circulated or used for any purpose other > than for what it is intended. If you have received this message in > error, please notify the originator immediately. If you are not the > intended recipient, you are notified that you are strictly prohibited > from using, copying, altering, or disclosing the contents of this > message. HSS accepts no responsibility for loss or damage arising from > the use of the information transmitted by this email including damage > from virus." From rrs@cisco.com Thu Jun 5 11:03:49 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA29634 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 11:03:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NwFa-0007gZ-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 11:01:58 -0400 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NwFZ-0007gR-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 11:01:57 -0400 Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h55EWYjc015265; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 07:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (ssh-sjc-1.cisco.com [171.68.225.134]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.3-GR) with ESMTP id AIA45898; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 07:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EDF5480.4050201@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 09:32:32 -0500 From: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030323 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kimmo.Rainola@nokia.com CC: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: How to read current value of a socket option with sctp_opt_info() References: <4EFAB02CD1631648856752B7E482C9A3123260@esebe003.ntc.nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <4EFAB02CD1631648856752B7E482C9A3123260@esebe003.ntc.nokia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kimmo: Please see the earlier discussion on this list... the next socket api draft will change all of the items that have the word SET in them to NOT have this word (if it can be used in a set and get). I believe we end with only ONE item left with SET in the neame SET_PEER_PRIMARY_ADDR to trigger the addip setprimary aka what your peer thinks is primary. All others will loose the SET name. R Kimmo.Rainola@nokia.com wrote: >Hi, > >Since sctp_opt_info() is read only it seems redundant and sometimes conflicting that many of the options have SET/GET as part of the option name. > >If sctp_opt_info() is used to query a socket option we know that it is always GET. >If getsockopt() is used, the function call implies that this is a GET operation. >If setsockopt() is used, the function call implies that this is SET operation > >Sometimes it is not very intuitive whether it is a set or a get. For example at the moment to query Peer Address Parameters I would call >sctp_opt_info (.. ,SCTP_SET_PEER_ADDR_PARAMS, ..) or (in BSD systems) >getsockopt (.. ,SCTP_SET_PEER_ADDR_PARAMS, ..). > >--Kimmo > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: ext Randall Stewart (cisco) [mailto:rrs@cisco.com] >>Sent: 03 June, 2003 18:08 >>To: Rainola Kimmo (NET/Helsinki) >>Cc: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com >>Subject: Re: How to read current value of a socket option with >>sctp_opt_info() >> >> >>Kimmo.Rainola@nokia.com wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi, >>> >>>I have a question regarding the use of sctp_opt_info(). In >>> >>> >>addition of setting socket options can it also be used to >>read the current value of a socket option? >> >> >>>For example if I want to set heartbeat interval to some >>> >>> >>value I would fill out struct sctp_paddrparams with the new >>value and call sctp_opt_info() with >>SCTP_SET_PEER_ADDR_PARAMS. But what if I'm just interested in >>knowing the current value of heartbeat interval? Do I again >>call sctp_opt_info() and pass struct sctp_paddrparams as an >>argument and expect that when sctp_opt_info() returns it will >>be filled with the current data. >> >> >>>The problem I see here is that since the calls to set/get >>> >>> >>the socket option look the same, how does the system know if >>I want to set or get the socket option. Should I use >>getsockopt() instead of sctp_opt_info() when I want to read >>the current value of socket option. >> >> >>>Br, >>> Kimmo >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>sctp_opt_info() >> >>is only getting options. This is due to the fact that on >>some machines.. you can NOT pass a in-out variable into the >>getsockopt() call. >> >>For BSD machines you can use either getsockopt() OR sctp_opt_info() >> >>You CAN NOT use sctp_opt_info() to set any socket option.. >> >>R >> >>-- >>Randall R. Stewart >>ITD >>Cisco Systems Inc. >>rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) >> >> >> >> > > > > -- Randall R. 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--EBB.69F7FB13_23A7EF.C1-- From rrs@cisco.com Fri Jun 13 07:29:53 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA28463 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 07:29:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Qmie-0003jr-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 07:27:45 -0400 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Qmie-0003ji-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 07:27:44 -0400 Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5DB4Jjc011487; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 04:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (ssh-sjc-1.cisco.com [171.68.225.134]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.3-GR) with ESMTP id AII68631; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 04:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EE9AFB1.10803@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 06:04:17 -0500 From: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030323 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xiaodan Tang CC: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: getsockopt() References: <002d01c32f8e$6ae5c350$d200020a@suryc> In-Reply-To: <002d01c32f8e$6ae5c350$d200020a@suryc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xiaodan Tang wrote: >The IPPROTO_SCTP related getsockopt() usually need to send some data in >(the association id), this sort of mess up the idea that "getsockopt()" is >one direction >(from stack to application). > > In FreeBSD anything sent into a getsockopt() call was visibile to the stack. In NetBSD a minor tweak had to be made... There are some stacks (aka those that use streams) that can't make these adjustments... for them they can use the sctp_opt_info() We did not use ioctl since it is designed more for devices and SCTP is NOT a device (a quote from the freebsd manual): " DESCRIPTION The ioctl() function manipulates the underlying device parameters of spe- cial files. In particular, many operating characteristics of character special files (e.g. terminals) may be controlled with ioctl() requests. The argument d must be an open file descriptor. " This is not in keeping with a socket... instead a sockopt get/set is in line with this... R >Is there any reason we are not using ioctl() (which is bi-direction) instead >of >getsockopt() ? > >Xiaodan Tang >QNX Software System Ltd. > > > > -- Randall R. Stewart ITD Cisco Systems Inc. rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) From seanb@node25.Foo.COM Fri Jun 13 11:14:50 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA09308 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:14:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QqEM-00067S-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:12:42 -0400 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QqEL-00067N-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:12:42 -0400 Received: from sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com [171.69.11.151]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5DEw2jc019069 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 07:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy2.cisco.com (proxy2.cisco.com [128.107.241.180]) by sj-msg-av-1.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h5DEvwQq028966 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 07:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hub.ott.qnx.com (IDENT:root@qnxmail.qnx.com [209.226.137.76]) by proxy2.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h5DErwkc016777 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 07:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.ott.qnx.com (smtp.ott.qnx.com [10.0.2.158]) by hub.ott.qnx.com (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08247; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:19:12 -0400 Received: from node25.Foo.COM (node25 [10.0.0.25]) by smtp.ott.qnx.com (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA15104; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:25:27 -0400 Received: by node25.Foo.COM (8.12.7/8.12.7) id h5DDUkBt60842048; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:30:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 09:30:46 -0400 From: Sean Boudreau To: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" Cc: Xiaodan Tang , sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: getsockopt() Message-ID: <20030613133046.GA60719143@qnx.com> References: <002d01c32f8e$6ae5c350$d200020a@suryc> <3EE9AFB1.10803@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EE9AFB1.10803@cisco.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 06:04:17AM -0500, Randall Stewart (cisco) wrote: > Xiaodan Tang wrote: > > >The IPPROTO_SCTP related getsockopt() usually need to send some data in > >(the association id), this sort of mess up the idea that "getsockopt()" is > >one direction > >(from stack to application). > > > > > > In FreeBSD anything sent into a getsockopt() call was visibile to the stack. > In NetBSD a minor tweak had to be made... > > There are some stacks (aka those that use streams) that can't make > these adjustments... for them they can use the sctp_opt_info() > > We did not use ioctl since it is designed more for devices and SCTP > is NOT a device (a quote from the freebsd manual): > " > DESCRIPTION > The ioctl() function manipulates the underlying device parameters > of spe- > cial files. In particular, many operating characteristics of character > special files (e.g. terminals) may be controlled with ioctl() requests. > The argument d must be an open file descriptor. > " > > This is not in keeping with a socket... instead a sockopt get/set is in line > with this... > > R That seems to be a rigid interpretation of ioctl(). A socket can be interpreted as a "special file" of type S_IFSOCK. And ioctl() is definitly used for sockets on FreeBSD: look at all the SIOC* ioctls. 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--7EA9.B27EF60_E-- From rrs@cisco.com Fri Jun 13 15:01:22 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA18709 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QtlZ-0000VU-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:59:13 -0400 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QtlY-0000VR-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:59:13 -0400 Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5DIjb3p015078; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (ssh-sjc-1.cisco.com [171.68.225.134]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.3-GR) with ESMTP id AIJ10418; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EEA1BD0.3080304@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:45:36 -0500 From: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030323 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Boudreau CC: Xiaodan Tang , sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: getsockopt() References: <002d01c32f8e$6ae5c350$d200020a@suryc> <3EE9AFB1.10803@cisco.com> <20030613133046.GA60719143@qnx.com> In-Reply-To: <20030613133046.GA60719143@qnx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sean: I don't see how it requires special case code.. could you explain your statement? I know it does not in any of the BSD's... other than the bit I had to add for NetBSD.. free and open I think already were passing the data from the get call in.. And for the app.. there is no special case here... If you are worried about the sctp_opt_info() vs getsocktop().. thats easy.. in the BSD's just like it mentions in the draft.. the sctp_opt_info just re-maps to getsockopt().. so for an app writer.. all you need do is call sctp_opt_info() and the right thing will occur.. no matter what platform. R Sean Boudreau wrote: >On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 06:04:17AM -0500, Randall Stewart (cisco) wrote: > > >>Xiaodan Tang wrote: >> >> >> >>>The IPPROTO_SCTP related getsockopt() usually need to send some data in >>>(the association id), this sort of mess up the idea that "getsockopt()" is >>>one direction >>>(from stack to application). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>In FreeBSD anything sent into a getsockopt() call was visibile to the stack. >>In NetBSD a minor tweak had to be made... >> >>There are some stacks (aka those that use streams) that can't make >>these adjustments... for them they can use the sctp_opt_info() >> >>We did not use ioctl since it is designed more for devices and SCTP >>is NOT a device (a quote from the freebsd manual): >>" >>DESCRIPTION >> The ioctl() function manipulates the underlying device parameters >>of spe- >> cial files. In particular, many operating characteristics of character >> special files (e.g. terminals) may be controlled with ioctl() requests. >> The argument d must be an open file descriptor. >>" >> >>This is not in keeping with a socket... instead a sockopt get/set is in line >>with this... >> >>R >> >> > >That seems to be a rigid interpretation of ioctl(). A socket can >be interpreted as a "special file" of type S_IFSOCK. And ioctl() is >definitly used for sockets on FreeBSD: look at all the SIOC* ioctls. > >This seems to be a non standard way of using getsockopt() which will >require special case code. > >-seanb > > > >>>Is there any reason we are not using ioctl() (which is bi-direction) >>>instead >>>of >>>getsockopt() ? >>> >>> >>> > > > -- Randall R. Stewart ITD Cisco Systems Inc. rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) From rrs@cisco.com Fri Jun 13 16:38:32 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA22382 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QvHb-00014l-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:36:23 -0400 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19QvHa-00014V-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 16:36:23 -0400 Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5DKHbms021302; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (ssh-sjc-1.cisco.com [171.68.225.134]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.3-GR) with ESMTP id AIJ21495; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3EEA3160.6090403@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:17:36 -0500 From: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030323 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Boudreau CC: Xiaodan Tang , sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: getsockopt() References: <002d01c32f8e$6ae5c350$d200020a@suryc> <3EE9AFB1.10803@cisco.com> <20030613133046.GA60719143@qnx.com> <3EEA1BD0.3080304@cisco.com> <20030613195007.GA80642086@qnx.com> In-Reply-To: <20030613195007.GA80642086@qnx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sean: Each to his own opinion... One always has the option of adding a syscall sctp_opt_info() or mapping it to an ioctl if that is the flavor you want :> Of course I see no problem with leaving it with getsockopt() R Sean Boudreau wrote: >A little background: my initiation to sctp began >with 'it requires getsockopt() to pass in >data'. The extra code that I'm aware of is the >change to NetBSD you mentioned, and to our socket >library to pass in the extra data and our stack >to re-arrange things to look for it (that's where I >got invloved). Passing data in via getsockopt() isn't >necessarly a bad thing, I don't see it specifically >forbidden in POSIX but no mention that it should be >expected to work etiher. I'm also not aware of another >precedent for doing this and in fact it seems this >behaviour is usually achieved on sockets via ioctl(). > >When I first saw this I thought, that's weird... > >-seanb > >On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 01:45:36PM -0500, Randall Stewart (cisco) wrote: > > >>Sean: >> >>I don't see how it requires special case code.. could you >>explain your statement? >> >>I know it does not in any of the BSD's... other than the bit >>I had to add for NetBSD.. free and open I think already were >>passing the data from the get call in.. >> >>And for the app.. there is no special case here... If you are >>worried about the >>sctp_opt_info() vs getsocktop().. thats easy.. in the BSD's >>just like it mentions in the draft.. the sctp_opt_info just >>re-maps to getsockopt().. so for an app writer.. all you need do >>is call >>sctp_opt_info() >> >>and the right thing will occur.. no matter what platform. >> >>R >> >>Sean Boudreau wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 06:04:17AM -0500, Randall Stewart (cisco) wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Xiaodan Tang wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>The IPPROTO_SCTP related getsockopt() usually need to send some data in >>>>>(the association id), this sort of mess up the idea that "getsockopt()" >>>>>is >>>>>one direction >>>>>(from stack to application). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>In FreeBSD anything sent into a getsockopt() call was visibile to the >>>>stack. >>>>In NetBSD a minor tweak had to be made... >>>> >>>>There are some stacks (aka those that use streams) that can't make >>>>these adjustments... for them they can use the sctp_opt_info() >>>> >>>>We did not use ioctl since it is designed more for devices and SCTP >>>>is NOT a device (a quote from the freebsd manual): >>>>" >>>>DESCRIPTION >>>> The ioctl() function manipulates the underlying device parameters >>>>of spe- >>>> cial files. 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Stewart ITD Cisco Systems Inc. rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) From seanb@node25.Foo.COM Fri Jun 13 17:23:15 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA23660 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:23:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Qvyt-0001QD-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:21:07 -0400 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Qvys-0001Q8-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:21:06 -0400 Received: from sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com [171.70.145.31]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5DL5K3p000227 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy2.cisco.com (proxy2.cisco.com [128.107.241.180]) by sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h5DL4kSa029021 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hub.ott.qnx.com (IDENT:root@qnxmail.qnx.com [209.226.137.76]) by proxy2.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h5DL1Mkc011455 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.ott.qnx.com (smtp.ott.qnx.com [10.0.2.158]) by hub.ott.qnx.com (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13969; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:38:32 -0400 Received: from node25.Foo.COM (node25 [10.0.0.25]) by smtp.ott.qnx.com (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA12326; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:44:48 -0400 Received: by node25.Foo.COM (8.12.7/8.12.7) id h5DJo8Ef81043500; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:50:08 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 15:50:08 -0400 From: Sean Boudreau To: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" Cc: Xiaodan Tang , sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: getsockopt() Message-ID: <20030613195007.GA80642086@qnx.com> References: <002d01c32f8e$6ae5c350$d200020a@suryc> <3EE9AFB1.10803@cisco.com> <20030613133046.GA60719143@qnx.com> <3EEA1BD0.3080304@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EEA1BD0.3080304@cisco.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i A little background: my initiation to sctp began with 'it requires getsockopt() to pass in data'. The extra code that I'm aware of is the change to NetBSD you mentioned, and to our socket library to pass in the extra data and our stack to re-arrange things to look for it (that's where I got invloved). Passing data in via getsockopt() isn't necessarly a bad thing, I don't see it specifically forbidden in POSIX but no mention that it should be expected to work etiher. I'm also not aware of another precedent for doing this and in fact it seems this behaviour is usually achieved on sockets via ioctl(). When I first saw this I thought, that's weird... -seanb On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 01:45:36PM -0500, Randall Stewart (cisco) wrote: > Sean: > > I don't see how it requires special case code.. could you > explain your statement? > > I know it does not in any of the BSD's... other than the bit > I had to add for NetBSD.. free and open I think already were > passing the data from the get call in.. > > And for the app.. there is no special case here... 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Just a suggestion on how to make sctp slightly easier for others to implement... -seanb > > R > > Sean Boudreau wrote: > > >A little background: my initiation to sctp began > >with 'it requires getsockopt() to pass in > >data'. The extra code that I'm aware of is the > >change to NetBSD you mentioned, and to our socket > >library to pass in the extra data and our stack > >to re-arrange things to look for it (that's where I > >got invloved). Passing data in via getsockopt() isn't > >necessarly a bad thing, I don't see it specifically > >forbidden in POSIX but no mention that it should be > >expected to work etiher. I'm also not aware of another > >precedent for doing this and in fact it seems this > >behaviour is usually achieved on sockets via ioctl(). > > > >When I first saw this I thought, that's weird... > > > >-seanb > > > >On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 01:45:36PM -0500, Randall Stewart (cisco) wrote: > > > > > >>Sean: > >> > >>I don't see how it requires special case code.. could you > >>explain your statement? > >> > >>I know it does not in any of the BSD's... other than the bit > >>I had to add for NetBSD.. free and open I think already were > >>passing the data from the get call in.. > >> > >>And for the app.. there is no special case here... 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--C__CC09E1B.A.C-- From bidulock@openss7.org Fri Jun 13 23:24:18 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA04097 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 23:24:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19R1cH-0003ke-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 23:22:09 -0400 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19R1cH-0003kJ-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 23:22:09 -0400 Received: from sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com [171.70.145.31]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5E39T3p008448 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 20:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy1.cisco.com (proxy1.cisco.com [128.107.241.179]) by sj-msg-av-2.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h5E38sSa005404 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 20:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (IDENT:5P8alVCP2zORbYK6bo885chvSPHHFzGY@gw.openss7.com [142.179.199.224]) by proxy1.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h5E39BEj021235 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 20:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:Vp71PPvoVo3tAUE2pfKz02KVa1YjqbXU@ns1.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.1]) by gw.openss7.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5E32MX27483; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 21:02:22 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by ns.pigworks.openss7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h5E32M617882; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 21:02:22 -0600 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 21:02:21 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: Sean Boudreau Cc: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" , Xiaodan Tang , sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: getsockopt() Message-ID: <20030613210221.A17542@openss7.org> Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org References: <002d01c32f8e$6ae5c350$d200020a@suryc> <3EE9AFB1.10803@cisco.com> <20030613133046.GA60719143@qnx.com> <3EEA1BD0.3080304@cisco.com> <20030613195007.GA80642086@qnx.com> <3EEA3160.6090403@cisco.com> <20030613222659.GA81608764@qnx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030613222659.GA81608764@qnx.com>; from seanb@qnx.com on Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 06:26:59PM -0400 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: Return-Receipt-To: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by sj-core-2.cisco.com id h5E39T3p008448 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ietf.org id XAA04097 Sean, See http://www.openss7.org/cgi-bin/man/man2html?7+sctp for a socket interface to SCTP that needs - no radical extensions to the POSIX interface, - no modifications to NET4 core socket code, and - no extra system calls. (Oh, and all mechanisms are compatible between STREAMS and sockets.) --brian On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Sean Boudreau wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 03:17:36PM -0500, Randall Stewart (cisco) wrote: > > Sean: > > > > Each to his own opinion... > > > > One always has the option of adding a syscall > > sctp_opt_info() or mapping it to an ioctl if that > > is the flavor you want :> > > > > Of course I see no problem with leaving it > > with getsockopt() > > All true. Just a suggestion on how to make sctp > slightly easier for others to implement... > > -seanb > > > > > R > > > > Sean Boudreau wrote: > > > > >A little background: my initiation to sctp began > > >with 'it requires getsockopt() to pass in > > >data'. The extra code that I'm aware of is the > > >change to NetBSD you mentioned, and to our socket > > >library to pass in the extra data and our stack > > >to re-arrange things to look for it (that's where I > > >got invloved). Passing data in via getsockopt() isn't > > >necessarly a bad thing, I don't see it specifically > > >forbidden in POSIX but no mention that it should be > > >expected to work etiher. I'm also not aware of another > > >precedent for doing this and in fact it seems this > > >behaviour is usually achieved on sockets via ioctl(). > > > > > >When I first saw this I thought, that's weird... > > > > > >-seanb > > > > > >On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 01:45:36PM -0500, Randall Stewart (cisco) wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Sean: > > >> > > >>I don't see how it requires special case code.. could you > > >>explain your statement? > > >> > > >>I know it does not in any of the BSD's... other than the bit > > >>I had to add for NetBSD.. free and open I think already were > > >>passing the data from the get call in.. > > >> > > >>And for the app.. there is no special case here... If you are > > >>worried about the > > >>sctp_opt_info() vs getsocktop().. thats easy.. in the BSD's > > >>just like it mentions in the draft.. the sctp_opt_info just > > >>re-maps to getsockopt().. so for an app writer.. all you need do > > >>is call > > >>sctp_opt_info() > > >> > > >>and the right thing will occur.. no matter what platform. > > >> > > >>R > > >> > > >>Sean Boudreau wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 06:04:17AM -0500, Randall Stewart (cisco) wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Xiaodan Tang wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>The IPPROTO_SCTP related getsockopt() usually need to send some data in > > >>>>>(the association id), this sort of mess up the idea that > > >>>>>"getsockopt()" is > > >>>>>one direction > > >>>>>(from stack to application). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>In FreeBSD anything sent into a getsockopt() call was visibile to the > > >>>>stack. > > >>>>In NetBSD a minor tweak had to be made... > > >>>> > > >>>>There are some stacks (aka those that use streams) that can't make > > >>>>these adjustments... for them they can use the sctp_opt_info() > > >>>> > > >>>>We did not use ioctl since it is designed more for devices and SCTP > > >>>>is NOT a device (a quote from the freebsd manual): > > >>>>" > > >>>>DESCRIPTION > > >>>> The ioctl() function manipulates the underlying device parameters > > >>>>of spe- > > >>>> cial files. In particular, many operating characteristics of character > > >>>> special files (e.g. terminals) may be controlled with ioctl() requests. > > >>>> The argument d must be an open file descriptor. > > >>>>" > > >>>> > > >>>>This is not in keeping with a socket... instead a sockopt get/set is in > > >>>>line > > >>>>with this... > > >>>> > > >>>>R > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>That seems to be a rigid interpretation of ioctl(). A socket can > > >>>be interpreted as a "special file" of type S_IFSOCK. And ioctl() is > > >>>definitly used for sockets on FreeBSD: look at all the SIOC* ioctls. > > >>> > > >>>This seems to be a non standard way of using getsockopt() which will > > >>>require special case code. > > >>> > > >>>-seanb > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>>Is there any reason we are not using ioctl() (which is bi-direction) > > >>>>>instead > > >>>>>of > > >>>>>getsockopt() ? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>-- > > >>Randall R. Stewart > > >>ITD > > >>Cisco Systems Inc. > > >>rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Randall R. Stewart > > ITD > > Cisco Systems Inc. > > rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) > > > > -- Brian F. G. 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