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G. Bidulock" To: Patricio Barletta Cc: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: timeout issue question Message-ID: <20030713161654.A4669@openss7.org> Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org References: <3F119660.1060608@fuegolabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3F119660.1060608@fuegolabs.com>; from patricio@fuegolabs.com on Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 02:26:56PM -0300 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: Return-Receipt-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Patricio, I set the FR count to 4 when marking for RTO retransmission. This makes the chunk no longer eligble (ever) for FR. But, I am curious: You can surely not be using anywhere near the recommended RTO value, or you have a real high latency network, correct? How is it that 4 SACKs take longer than RTO to be returned? I stumbled on the effect when setting RTO.Min to 0. It might not be in the RFC or the IG, but I remember it being discussed that after a RTO retransmission, there is no such thing as fast recovery, just RTO, and that chunks after RTO were no longer eligibel for FR. --brian On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Patricio Barletta wrote: > We are using the ns-2 to test some issues in sctp and we're experiencing > some strange behaviour we want to clarify. > The scenario is the following: 5 consecutive data chunks (one per > packet) are being dropped. One of them is retransmitted by timeout, then > it is fast retransmitted some milliseconds after (When the > restransmision by timeout happens, we receive the forth consecutive > missing for the TSN being retransmitted, and then it is fast retransmitted). > > Is this the expected behaviour ? > Should the number of missing reports be reset after a TSN is > retransmitted by timeout ? This is not clear in the RFC neither the > impl. guide (v8) > > Regards, > Patricio. > > > -- Brian F. G. Bidulock ¦ The reasonable man adapts himself to the ¦ bidulock@openss7.org ¦ world; the unreasonable one persists in ¦ http://www.openss7.org/ ¦ trying to adapt the world to himself. ¦ ¦ Therefore all progress depends on the ¦ ¦ unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw ¦ From patricio@fuegolabs.com Sun Jul 13 20:17:45 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA09509 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:17:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19br2I-0000AS-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:17:46 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19br2H-0000AN-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:17:46 -0400 Received: from fuegolabs.com (171.71.177.254) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 Jul 2003 17:21:01 -0700 Received: from sj-inbound-3.cisco.com (sj-inbound-3.cisco.com [128.107.250.144]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6E0GouD018459 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 17:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acidoargentino.brigadasmetalicas.com.ar (host25.200-82-124.telecom.net.ar [200.82.124.25] (may be forged)) by sj-inbound-3.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6E0GkJT021413 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 17:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fuegolabs.com) by acidoargentino.brigadasmetalicas.com.ar with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19bqQx-0001hy-00; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:39:11 -0300 Message-ID: <3F11ED97.4030102@fuegolabs.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:39:03 -0300 From: Patricio Barletta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030502 Debian/1.2.1-9woody3 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bidulock@openss7.org CC: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: timeout issue question References: <3F119660.1060608@fuegolabs.com> <20030713161654.A4669@openss7.org> In-Reply-To: <20030713161654.A4669@openss7.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080508010808010204080109" --------------080508010808010204080109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As far as i can see in the simulation code, whenever a chunk is retransmited by timeout, it is not marked as ineligible for FR. I didn't change the RTO value and the network delay is 200ms. Some of the duplicates that arrive for that chunk are received before the timeout retransmission takes place. Patricio. Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote: >Patricio, > >I set the FR count to 4 when marking for RTO retransmission. This makes >the chunk no longer eligble (ever) for FR. > >But, I am curious: You can surely not be using anywhere near the >recommended RTO value, or you have a real high latency network, correct? >How is it that 4 SACKs take longer than RTO to be returned? > >I stumbled on the effect when setting RTO.Min to 0. > >It might not be in the RFC or the IG, but I remember it being discussed >that after a RTO retransmission, there is no such thing as fast recovery, >just RTO, and that chunks after RTO were no longer eligibel for FR. > >--brian > >On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Patricio Barletta wrote: > > > >>We are using the ns-2 to test some issues in sctp and we're experiencing >>some strange behaviour we want to clarify. >>The scenario is the following: 5 consecutive data chunks (one per >>packet) are being dropped. One of them is retransmitted by timeout, then >>it is fast retransmitted some milliseconds after (When the >>restransmision by timeout happens, we receive the forth consecutive >>missing for the TSN being retransmitted, and then it is fast retransmitted). >> >>Is this the expected behaviour ? >>Should the number of missing reports be reset after a TSN is >>retransmitted by timeout ? This is not clear in the RFC neither the >>impl. guide (v8) >> >>Regards, >>Patricio. >> >> >> >> >> > > > --------------080508010808010204080109 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As far as i can see in the simulation code, whenever a chunk is retransmited by timeout, it is not marked as ineligible for FR.
    I didn't change the RTO value and the network delay is 200ms.
    Some of the duplicates that arrive for that chunk are received before the timeout retransmission takes place.

    Patricio.


    Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
    Patricio,

I set the FR count to 4 when marking for RTO retransmission.  This makes
the chunk no longer eligble (ever) for FR.

But, I am curious: You can surely not be using anywhere near the
recommended RTO value, or you have a real high latency network, correct?
How is it that 4 SACKs take longer than RTO to be returned?

I stumbled on the effect when setting RTO.Min to 0.

It might not be in the RFC or the IG, but I remember it being discussed
that after a RTO retransmission, there is no such thing as fast recovery,
just RTO, and that chunks after RTO were no longer eligibel for FR.

--brian

On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Patricio Barletta wrote:

  
    We are using the ns-2 to test some issues in sctp and we're experiencing 
some strange behaviour we want to clarify.
The scenario is the following: 5 consecutive data chunks (one per 
packet) are being dropped. One of them is retransmitted by timeout, then 
it is fast retransmitted some milliseconds after (When the 
restransmision by timeout happens, we receive the forth consecutive 
missing for the TSN being retransmitted, and then it is fast retransmitted).

Is this the expected behaviour ?
Should the number of missing reports be reset after a TSN is 
retransmitted by timeout ? This is not clear in the RFC neither the 
impl. guide (v8)

Regards,
Patricio.

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    As far as i can see in the simulation code, whenever a chunk is
retransmited by timeout, it is not marked as ineligible for FR.
I didn't change the RTO value and the network delay is 200ms.
Some of the duplicates that arrive for that chunk are received before
the timeout retransmission takes place.
    Patricio.

    Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
    Patricio,

I set the FR count to 4 when marking for RTO retransmission.  This makes
the chunk no longer eligble (ever) for FR.

But, I am curious: You can surely not be using anywhere near the
recommended RTO value, or you have a real high latency network, correct?
How is it that 4 SACKs take longer than RTO to be returned?

I stumbled on the effect when setting RTO.Min to 0.

It might not be in the RFC or the IG, but I remember it being discussed
that after a RTO retransmission, there is no such thing as fast recovery,
just RTO, and that chunks after RTO were no longer eligibel for FR.

--brian

On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Patricio Barletta wrote:

  
    We are using the ns-2 to test some issues in sctp and we're experiencing 
some strange behaviour we want to clarify.
The scenario is the following: 5 consecutive data chunks (one per 
packet) are being dropped. One of them is retransmitted by timeout, then 
it is fast retransmitted some milliseconds after (When the 
restransmision by timeout happens, we receive the forth consecutive 
missing for the TSN being retransmitted, and then it is fast retransmitted).

Is this the expected behaviour ?
Should the number of missing reports be reset after a TSN is 
retransmitted by timeout ? This is not clear in the RFC neither the 
impl. guide (v8)

Regards,
Patricio.


    From acaro@mail.eecis.udel.edu Mon Jul 14 11:17:38 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA27779 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:17:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19c55A-0001Lo-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:17:40 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19c55A-0001Lc-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:17:40 -0400 Received: from sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (sj-inbound-4.cisco.com [128.107.250.145]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6EFGO89016987 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.4.40.12]) by sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6EFGT0D020543 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.eecis.udel.edu (Postfix, from userid 62) id E652B3299F; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:50:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stimpy.eecis.udel.edu (stimpy.eecis.udel.edu [128.4.40.17]) by mail.eecis.udel.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4E03299B; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:50:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:50:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Armando L. Caro Jr." X-X-Sender: Reply-To: "Armando L. Caro Jr." To: Patricio Barletta Cc: Subject: Re: timeout issue question In-Reply-To: <3F11ED97.4030102@fuegolabs.com> Message-ID: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=6.0 tests=DEPT_RCVD,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.43 X-Sanitizer: This message has been sanitized! X-Sanitizer-URL: http://mailtools.anomy.net/ X-Sanitizer-Rev: UDEL-ECECIS: Sanitizer.pm,v 1.64 2002/10/22 MIME-Version: 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Patricio Barletta wrote: > As far as i can see in the simulation code, whenever a chunk is > retransmited by timeout, it is not marked as ineligible for FR. > I didn't change the RTO value and the network delay is 200ms. > Some of the duplicates that arrive for that chunk are received before > the timeout retransmission takes place. I am curious how this could happen. It doesn't seem possible. You are saying that the same TSN is retransmitted by an RTO, and later the same TSN is fast rtx'd? How does the ack for the retransmitted TSN trigger a fast rtx for itself? This _could_ be a bug in our code, but I would be interested in seeing a more detailed descriptiong of the problem before I go hunting down the bug. Can you describe in detail (ie, timeline) the problem scenario? Thanks... ~armando 0-- --0 | Armando L. Caro Jr. | Protocol Engineering Lab | | www.cis.udel.edu/~acaro | University of Delaware | 0-- --0 From patricio@fuegolabs.com Mon Jul 14 21:31:38 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA16276 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:31:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19cEfK-00055G-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:31:38 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19cEfI-00054e-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:31:36 -0400 Received: from fuegolabs.com (171.68.223.137) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Jul 2003 18:34:59 -0700 Received: from sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (sj-inbound-4.cisco.com [128.107.250.145]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6F1UNuG002071 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp3.arnet.com.ar (smtp3.arnet.com.ar [200.45.191.14]) by sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with SMTP id h6F1UN0D015320 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10641 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 01:12:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fuegolabs.com) (200.82.124.25) by smtp3.arnet.com.ar with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 01:12:40 -0000 Message-ID: <3F13562C.4060102@fuegolabs.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:17:32 -0300 From: Patricio Barletta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030502 Debian/1.2.1-9woody3 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Armando L. Caro Jr." CC: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: timeout issue question References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030502020508040608030308" --------------030502020508040608030308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I could reproduce it using the "Example Script 1" in sctp.README, dropping 5 consecutive packets. (In my case i dropped packets 5,6,7,8,9, one data chunk per packet) 3 missing reports for TSN #5 are received just before the retransmission by timeout, at almost the same time the forth missing report is received, and then TSN #5 is "fast retransmitted" Hope this helps. Patricio. Armando L. Caro Jr. wrote: >On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Patricio Barletta wrote: > > > >>As far as i can see in the simulation code, whenever a chunk is >>retransmited by timeout, it is not marked as ineligible for FR. >>I didn't change the RTO value and the network delay is 200ms. >>Some of the duplicates that arrive for that chunk are received before >>the timeout retransmission takes place. >> >> > >I am curious how this could happen. It doesn't seem possible. You are >saying that the same TSN is retransmitted by an RTO, and later the same >TSN is fast rtx'd? How does the ack for the retransmitted TSN trigger a >fast rtx for itself? This _could_ be a bug in our code, but I would be >interested in seeing a more detailed descriptiong of the problem before I >go hunting down the bug. Can you describe in detail (ie, timeline) the >problem scenario? > >Thanks... > >~armando > >0-- --0 >| Armando L. Caro Jr. | Protocol Engineering Lab | >| www.cis.udel.edu/~acaro | University of Delaware | >0-- --0 > > > --------------030502020508040608030308 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I could reproduce it using the "Example Script 1" in sctp.README, dropping 5 consecutive packets. (In my case i dropped packets 5,6,7,8,9, one data chunk per packet)

    3 missing reports for TSN #5 are received just before the retransmission by timeout, at almost the same time the forth missing report is received, and then TSN #5 is "fast retransmitted"

    Hope this helps.
    Patricio.

    Armando L. Caro Jr. wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Patricio Barletta wrote:

  
    As far as i can see in the simulation code, whenever a chunk is
retransmited by timeout, it is not marked as ineligible for FR.
I didn't change the RTO value and the network delay is 200ms.
Some of the duplicates that arrive for that chunk are received before
the timeout retransmission takes place.
    
    
I am curious how this could happen. It doesn't seem possible. You are
saying that the same TSN is retransmitted by an RTO, and later the same
TSN is fast rtx'd? How does the ack for the retransmitted TSN trigger a
fast rtx for itself? This _could_ be a bug in our code, but I would be
interested in seeing a more detailed descriptiong of the problem before I
go hunting down the bug. Can you describe in detail (ie, timeline) the
problem scenario?

Thanks...

~armando

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| www.cis.udel.edu/~acaro  |    University of Delaware |
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Caro Jr." X-X-Sender: Reply-To: "Armando L. Caro Jr." To: Patricio Barletta Cc: Subject: Re: timeout issue question In-Reply-To: <3F13562C.4060102@fuegolabs.com> Message-ID: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.7 required=6.0 tests=DEPT_RCVD,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.43 X-Sanitizer: This message has been sanitized! X-Sanitizer-URL: http://mailtools.anomy.net/ X-Sanitizer-Rev: UDEL-ECECIS: Sanitizer.pm,v 1.64 2002/10/22 MIME-Version: 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I am sorry, but I cannot reproduce your problem. If you drop packets 5-9, how are you able to get 3 missing reports for TSN 5. That would mean that you have succesfully transmitted TSNs 10-12, which your cwnd shouldn't allow. Let's take this discussion offline. Please send me your TCL script. Also, what version of our SCTP module are you using? On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Patricio Barletta wrote: > I could reproduce it using the "Example Script 1" in sctp.README, > dropping 5 consecutive packets. (In my case i dropped packets 5,6,7,8,9, > one data chunk per packet) > > 3 missing reports for TSN #5 are received just before the retransmission > by timeout, at almost the same time the forth missing report is > received, and then TSN #5 is "fast retransmitted" > > Hope this helps. > Patricio. > > Armando L. Caro Jr. wrote: > > >On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Patricio Barletta wrote: > > > > > > > >>As far as i can see in the simulation code, whenever a chunk is > >>retransmited by timeout, it is not marked as ineligible for FR. > >>I didn't change the RTO value and the network delay is 200ms. > >>Some of the duplicates that arrive for that chunk are received before > >>the timeout retransmission takes place. > >> > >> > > > >I am curious how this could happen. It doesn't seem possible. You are > >saying that the same TSN is retransmitted by an RTO, and later the same > >TSN is fast rtx'd? How does the ack for the retransmitted TSN trigger a > >fast rtx for itself? This _could_ be a bug in our code, but I would be > >interested in seeing a more detailed descriptiong of the problem before I > >go hunting down the bug. Can you describe in detail (ie, timeline) the > >problem scenario? > > > >Thanks... > > > >~armando > > > >0-- --0 > >| Armando L. Caro Jr. | Protocol Engineering Lab | > >| www.cis.udel.edu/~acaro | University of Delaware | > >0-- --0 > > > > > > > > ~armando 0-- --0 | Armando L. Caro Jr. | Protocol Engineering Lab | | www.cis.udel.edu/~acaro | University of Delaware | 0-- --0 From acaro@mail.eecis.udel.edu Tue Jul 15 18:52:45 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA09926 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19cYf9-0006nA-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:52:47 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19cYex-0006n3-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:52:35 -0400 Received: from sj-inbound-3.cisco.com (sj-inbound-3.cisco.com [128.107.250.144]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6FMo989022855 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:50:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.4.40.12]) by sj-inbound-3.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6FMo5KF026971 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.eecis.udel.edu (Postfix, from userid 62) id F3CB432904; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stimpy.eecis.udel.edu (stimpy.eecis.udel.edu [128.4.40.17]) by mail.eecis.udel.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADB1328F9; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:23:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Armando L. Caro Jr." X-X-Sender: Reply-To: "Armando L. Caro Jr." To: Patricio Barletta Cc: Subject: Re: timeout issue question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.2 required=6.0 tests=DEPT_RCVD,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_05_08,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.43 X-Sanitizer: This message has been sanitized! X-Sanitizer-URL: http://mailtools.anomy.net/ X-Sanitizer-Rev: UDEL-ECECIS: Sanitizer.pm,v 1.64 2002/10/22 MIME-Version: 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Patricio, Thanks for the TCL script that you sent. I now see the problem, and have realized that it is a bug in our code. The fix will be in the next release (3.4), but if you want to make the change now you only have to add one line of code. In void SctpAgent::TimeoutRtx(SctpDest_S *spDest), change: -------------- if(spCurrNodeData->spDest == spDest && spCurrNodeData->eGapAcked == FALSE && spCurrNodeData->eAdvancedAcked == FALSE) { MarkChunkForRtx(spCurrNodeData); } ----------- to: ----------- if(spCurrNodeData->spDest == spDest && spCurrNodeData->eGapAcked == FALSE && spCurrNodeData->eAdvancedAcked == FALSE) { MarkChunkForRtx(spCurrNodeData); spCurrNodeData->eIneligibleForFastRtx = TRUE; } ----------- ~armando 0-- --0 | Armando L. Caro Jr. | Protocol Engineering Lab | | www.cis.udel.edu/~acaro | University of Delaware | 0-- --0 On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Armando L. Caro Jr. wrote: > I am sorry, but I cannot reproduce your problem. If you drop packets 5-9, > how are you able to get 3 missing reports for TSN 5. That would mean that > you have succesfully transmitted TSNs 10-12, which your cwnd shouldn't > allow. > > Let's take this discussion offline. Please send me your TCL script. Also, > what version of our SCTP module are you using? > > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Patricio Barletta wrote: > > > I could reproduce it using the "Example Script 1" in sctp.README, > > dropping 5 consecutive packets. (In my case i dropped packets 5,6,7,8,9, > > one data chunk per packet) > > > > 3 missing reports for TSN #5 are received just before the retransmission > > by timeout, at almost the same time the forth missing report is > > received, and then TSN #5 is "fast retransmitted" > > > > Hope this helps. > > Patricio. > > > > Armando L. Caro Jr. wrote: > > > > >On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Patricio Barletta wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>As far as i can see in the simulation code, whenever a chunk is > > >>retransmited by timeout, it is not marked as ineligible for FR. > > >>I didn't change the RTO value and the network delay is 200ms. > > >>Some of the duplicates that arrive for that chunk are received before > > >>the timeout retransmission takes place. > > >> > > >> > > > > > >I am curious how this could happen. It doesn't seem possible. You are > > >saying that the same TSN is retransmitted by an RTO, and later the same > > >TSN is fast rtx'd? How does the ack for the retransmitted TSN trigger a > > >fast rtx for itself? This _could_ be a bug in our code, but I would be > > >interested in seeing a more detailed descriptiong of the problem before I > > >go hunting down the bug. Can you describe in detail (ie, timeline) the > > >problem scenario? > > > > > >Thanks... > > > > > >~armando > > > > > >0-- --0 > > >| Armando L. Caro Jr. | Protocol Engineering Lab | > > >| www.cis.udel.edu/~acaro | University of Delaware | > > >0-- --0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~armando > > 0-- --0 > | Armando L. 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sj-inbound-3.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6GFmn7Q025010 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from suryc (dhcp210.ott.qnx.com [10.2.0.210]) by nimbus.ott.qnx.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 3M5B022K; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:43:00 -0400 Message-ID: <016f01c34bb0$372a6b40$d200020a@suryc> Reply-To: "Xiaodan Tang" From: "Xiaodan Tang" To: "Sctp-Impl (E-mail)" References: <3F02E8D1.2070803@cisco.com> Subject: SCTP_SET_PEER_PRIMARY_ADDR Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:37:50 -0400 Organization: QNX Software Systems Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I am reading the draft correct, this is a setsockopt() *ONLY* now, so it shouldn't be pass to sctp_opt_info(), right? -xtang From bidulock@openss7.org Wed Jul 16 20:57:49 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA24266 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19cx5j-0005IK-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:57:51 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19cx5T-0005HS-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:57:35 -0400 Received: from sj-inbound-1.cisco.com (sj-inbound-1.cisco.com [128.107.250.142]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6H0iCpp013831 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (IDENT:bPiAx0fl+2Pvst8USDYh25rng3jp50px@gw.openss7.com [142.179.199.224]) by sj-inbound-1.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6H0iHbp027517 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:88oi4e65YdvMYa3Jiro6WH+vjiOtGPgn@ns1.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.1]) by gw.openss7.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6H0arP06324; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:36:53 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by ns.pigworks.openss7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h6H0amj07389; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:36:48 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:36:48 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: "Armando L. Caro Jr." Cc: Patricio Barletta , sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: timeout issue question Message-ID: <20030716183648.C6725@openss7.org> Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from acaro@mail.eecis.udel.edu on Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 06:23:47PM -0400 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: Return-Receipt-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by sj-core-4.cisco.com id h6H0iCpp013831 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Armando, That's what I do too. But I can't remember why. Did it come from some discussion or is it stated in the RFC or IG somewhere? --brian On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Armando L. Caro Jr. wrote: > Patricio, >=20 > Thanks for the TCL script that you sent. I now see the problem, and hav= e > realized that it is a bug in our code. The fix will be in the next rele= ase > (3.4), but if you want to make the change now you only have to add one > line of code. >=20 > In void SctpAgent::TimeoutRtx(SctpDest_S *spDest), >=20 > change: > -------------- > if(spCurrNodeData->spDest =3D=3D spDest && > spCurrNodeData->eGapAcked =3D=3D FALSE && > spCurrNodeData->eAdvancedAcked =3D=3D FALSE) > { > MarkChunkForRtx(spCurrNodeData); > } > ----------- >=20 > to: > ----------- > if(spCurrNodeData->spDest =3D=3D spDest && > spCurrNodeData->eGapAcked =3D=3D FALSE && > spCurrNodeData->eAdvancedAcked =3D=3D FALSE) > { > MarkChunkForRtx(spCurrNodeData); > spCurrNodeData->eIneligibleForFastRtx =3D TRUE; > } > ----------- >=20 >=20 > ~armando >=20 > 0-- --0 > | Armando L. Caro Jr. | Protocol Engineering Lab | > | www.cis.udel.edu/~acaro | University of Delaware | > 0-- --0 >=20 >=20 > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Armando L. Caro Jr. wrote: >=20 > > I am sorry, but I cannot reproduce your problem. If you drop packets = 5-9, > > how are you able to get 3 missing reports for TSN 5. That would mean = that > > you have succesfully transmitted TSNs 10-12, which your cwnd shouldn'= t > > allow. > > > > Let's take this discussion offline. Please send me your TCL script. A= lso, > > what version of our SCTP module are you using? > > > > > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Patricio Barletta wrote: > > > > > I could reproduce it using the "Example Script 1" in sctp.README, > > > dropping 5 consecutive packets. (In my case i dropped packets 5,6,7= ,8,9, > > > one data chunk per packet) > > > > > > 3 missing reports for TSN #5 are received just before the retransmi= ssion > > > by timeout, at almost the same time the forth missing report is > > > received, and then TSN #5 is "fast retransmitted" > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > Patricio. > > > > > > Armando L. Caro Jr. wrote: > > > > > > >On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Patricio Barletta wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>As far as i can see in the simulation code, whenever a chunk is > > > >>retransmited by timeout, it is not marked as ineligible for FR. > > > >>I didn't change the RTO value and the network delay is 200ms. > > > >>Some of the duplicates that arrive for that chunk are received be= fore > > > >>the timeout retransmission takes place. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >I am curious how this could happen. It doesn't seem possible. You = are > > > >saying that the same TSN is retransmitted by an RTO, and later the= same > > > >TSN is fast rtx'd? How does the ack for the retransmitted TSN trig= ger a > > > >fast rtx for itself? This _could_ be a bug in our code, but I woul= d be > > > >interested in seeing a more detailed descriptiong of the problem b= efore I > > > >go hunting down the bug. Can you describe in detail (ie, timeline)= the > > > >problem scenario? > > > > > > > >Thanks... > > > > > > > >~armando > > > > > > > >0-- --0 > > > >| Armando L. Caro Jr. | Protocol Engineering Lab | > > > >| www.cis.udel.edu/~acaro | University of Delaware | > > > >0-- --0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~armando > > > > 0-- --0 > > | Armando L. Caro Jr. | Protocol Engineering Lab | > > | www.cis.udel.edu/~acaro | University of Delaware | > > 0-- --0 > > >=20 --=20 Brian F. G. 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    --.CBF4C8_F5_-- From acaro@mail.eecis.udel.edu Thu Jul 17 00:30:31 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA01246 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:30:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19d0Pa-000017-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:30:34 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] helo=sj-iport-2.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19d0PP-00000Q-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:30:24 -0400 Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (171.68.223.137) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Jul 2003 21:29:07 -0700 Received: from sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (sj-inbound-4.cisco.com [128.107.250.145]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6H4RbuG011763 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.4.40.12]) by sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6H4RgcT029890 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.eecis.udel.edu (Postfix, from userid 62) id 74CF3328F1; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stimpy.eecis.udel.edu (stimpy.eecis.udel.edu [128.4.40.17]) by mail.eecis.udel.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B643291D; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:01:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:01:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Armando L. Caro Jr." X-X-Sender: Reply-To: "Armando L. Caro Jr." To: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" Cc: Patricio Barletta , Subject: Re: timeout issue question In-Reply-To: <20030716183648.C6725@openss7.org> Message-ID: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.7 required=6.0 tests=DEPT_RCVD,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.43 X-Sanitizer: This message has been sanitized! X-Sanitizer-URL: http://mailtools.anomy.net/ X-Sanitizer-Rev: UDEL-ECECIS: Sanitizer.pm,v 1.64 2002/10/22 MIME-Version: 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset="X-UNKNOWN" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote: > That's what I do too. But I can't remember why. Did it come from some > discussion or is it stated in the RFC or IG somewhere? I'm glad you asked this, because Jana just pointed out to me that _technically_ it wasn't a bug. The RFC nor the IG say to do this, but it _should_ be done. The IG says that after a TSN is FR'd, that TSN is ineligible for another FR. The text should actually say that the TSN should be ineligible after an FR and/or timeout. I think this change should go into the IG. Does everyone agree? ~armando 0-- --0 | Armando L. Caro Jr. | Protocol Engineering Lab | | www.cis.udel.edu/~acaro | University of Delaware | 0-- --0 > > --brian > > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Armando L. Caro Jr. wrote: > > > Patricio, > > > > Thanks for the TCL script that you sent. I now see the problem, and have > > realized that it is a bug in our code. The fix will be in the next rele= ase > > (3.4), but if you want to make the change now you only have to add one > > line of code. > > > > In void SctpAgent::TimeoutRtx(SctpDest_S *spDest), > > > > change: > > -------------- > > if(spCurrNodeData->spDest =3D=3D spDest && > > spCurrNodeData->eGapAcked =3D=3D FALSE && > > spCurrNodeData->eAdvancedAcked =3D=3D FALSE) > > { > > MarkChunkForRtx(spCurrNodeData); > > } > > ----------- > > > > to: > > ----------- > > if(spCurrNodeData->spDest =3D=3D spDest && > > spCurrNodeData->eGapAcked =3D=3D FALSE && > > spCurrNodeData->eAdvancedAcked =3D=3D FALSE) > > { > > MarkChunkForRtx(spCurrNodeData); > > spCurrNodeData->eIneligibleForFastRtx =3D TRUE; > > } > > ----------- > > > > > > ~armando > > > > 0-- --0 > > | Armando L. Caro Jr. | Protocol Engineering Lab | > > | www.cis.udel.edu/~acaro | University of Delaware | > > 0-- --0 > > > > > > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Armando L. Caro Jr. wrote: > > > > > I am sorry, but I cannot reproduce your problem. If you drop packets = 5-9, > > > how are you able to get 3 missing reports for TSN 5. That would mean = that > > > you have succesfully transmitted TSNs 10-12, which your cwnd shouldn't > > > allow. > > > > > > Let's take this discussion offline. Please send me your TCL script. A= lso, > > > what version of our SCTP module are you using? > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Patricio Barletta wrote: > > > > > > > I could reproduce it using the "Example Script 1" in sctp.README, > > > > dropping 5 consecutive packets. (In my case i dropped packets 5,6,7= ,8,9, > > > > one data chunk per packet) > > > > > > > > 3 missing reports for TSN #5 are received just before the retransmi= ssion > > > > by timeout, at almost the same time the forth missing report is > > > > received, and then TSN #5 is "fast retransmitted" > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Patricio. > > > > > > > > Armando L. Caro Jr. wrote: > > > > > > > > >On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Patricio Barletta wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>As far as i can see in the simulation code, whenever a chunk is > > > > >>retransmited by timeout, it is not marked as ineligible for FR. > > > > >>I didn't change the RTO value and the network delay is 200ms. > > > > >>Some of the duplicates that arrive for that chunk are received be= fore > > > > >>the timeout retransmission takes place. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >I am curious how this could happen. It doesn't seem possible. You = are > > > > >saying that the same TSN is retransmitted by an RTO, and later the= same > > > > >TSN is fast rtx'd? How does the ack for the retransmitted TSN trig= ger a > > > > >fast rtx for itself? This _could_ be a bug in our code, but I woul= d be > > > > >interested in seeing a more detailed descriptiong of the problem b= efore I > > > > >go hunting down the bug. Can you describe in detail (ie, timeline)= the > > > > >problem scenario? > > > > > > > > > >Thanks... > > > > > > > > > >~armando > > > > > > > > > >0-- --0 > > > > >| Armando L. Caro Jr. | Protocol Engineering Lab | > > > > >| www.cis.udel.edu/~acaro | University of Delaware | > > > > >0-- --0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~armando > > > > > > 0-- --0 > > > | Armando L. Caro Jr. | Protocol Engineering Lab | > > > | www.cis.udel.edu/~acaro | University of Delaware | > > > 0-- --0 > > > > > > > -- > Brian F. G. Bidulock =A6 The reasonable man adapts himself to the =A6 > bidulock@openss7.org =A6 world; the unreasonable one persists in =A6 > http://www.openss7.org/ =A6 trying to adapt the world to himself. =A6 > =A6 Therefore all progress depends on the =A6 > =A6 unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw =A6 From bidulock@openss7.org Thu Jul 17 00:43:11 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA01709 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19d0bq-0000EL-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:43:14 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19d0ba-0000DD-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:42:58 -0400 Received: from sj-inbound-2.cisco.com (sj-inbound-2.cisco.com [128.107.250.143]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6H4Kmpp007944 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (gw.openss7.com [142.179.199.224]) by sj-inbound-2.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6H4KTqh010386 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:EqEMwr3b9Zu9+H1r9zDfXQ3MA1Hc+fZ0@ns1.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.1]) by gw.openss7.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6H4DbP10003; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:13:37 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by ns.pigworks.openss7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h6H4Dbo10734; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:13:37 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:13:37 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: "Armando L. Caro Jr." Cc: Patricio Barletta , sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: timeout issue question Message-ID: <20030716221337.A10723@openss7.org> Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org References: <20030716183648.C6725@openss7.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from acaro@mail.eecis.udel.edu on Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 12:01:05AM -0400 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: Return-Receipt-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by sj-core-4.cisco.com id h6H4Kmpp007944 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Armando, On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Armando L. Caro Jr. wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote: >=20 > > That's what I do too. But I can't remember why. Did it come from so= me > > discussion or is it stated in the RFC or IG somewhere? >=20 > I'm glad you asked this, because Jana just pointed out to me that > _technically_ it wasn't a bug. The RFC nor the IG say to do this, but i= t > _should_ be done. The IG says that after a TSN is FR'd, that TSN is > ineligible for another FR. The text should actually say that the TSN > should be ineligible after an FR and/or timeout. >=20 > I think this change should go into the IG. Does everyone agree? Yes, I agree, we better say it explicitly somewhere. --brian >=20 > ~armando >=20 --=20 Brian F. G. 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Caro Jr." , sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: timeout issue question References: <20030716183648.C6725@openss7.org> <20030716221337.A10723@openss7.org> Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i agree.

    Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:

    Armando,

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Armando L. Caro Jr. wrote:

  
    On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:

    
    That's what I do too.  But I can't remember why.  Did it come from some
discussion or is it stated in the RFC or IG somewhere?
      
    I'm glad you asked this, because Jana just pointed out to me that
_technically_ it wasn't a bug. The RFC nor the IG say to do this, but it
_should_ be done. The IG says that after a TSN is FR'd, that TSN is
ineligible for another FR. The text should actually say that the TSN
should be ineligible after an FR and/or timeout.

I think this change should go into the IG. Does everyone agree?
    
    
Yes, I agree, we better say it explicitly somewhere.

--brian

  
    ~armando


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Caro Jr." , "Sctp-Impl (E-mail)" Subject: Re: timeout issue question References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Armando/all: The orginal problem with multiple FR's was you did not want to keep FR'ing the same thing multiple times.. but in the case of a timeout... you would have "cleared the pipe" so I don't see it a problem, after a T-3 that you FR... I.e: Tmit(TSN1)----------> <--4 sakc/strikes ----FR(TSN1)-------------> .... T3-Timeout -----Retran TSN1----------> .. At point the pipe is empty.. so it should be more than safe to do <----4 sack/strikes -------FR(TSN1)----------> and possibly repeat the timeout assuming of course that you can ever reach a point where you send out enough new data to get a FR... Remember the thing we did not want (with the FR wording) was ------FR(TSN1)------------> <---4 sacks-------- ------FR(TSN1)------------> <---4 sacks------- -----FR(TSN1)------------> Since the sacks may all be in the pipe .. i.e. a very big cwnd allows 100 segments out.. you may have 50 out-of-order sacks on your way to you after you realize a FR and send your FR... You don't want any other FR's until the timeout.. but after the time-out the pipe should be clean and if you somehow recognize a FR situation then it should be ok to do a subsequent. Note this does not take into acount the CACC issues that Jana as raised in hte past and I do need to think about that too.. but for the moment I think a subsequent FR after a timeout shoudl be ok.. but of course once the subsequent FR is done until the next T3 you could not do yet another FR :> R -- Randall R. Stewart ITD Cisco Systems Inc. rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) From bidulock@openss7.org Fri Jul 18 17:59:37 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA14641 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ddGM-0003sT-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:59:38 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] helo=sj-iport-2.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ddG7-0003s5-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:59:23 -0400 Received: from openss7.org (171.71.177.237) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Jul 2003 14:58:16 -0700 Received: from sj-inbound-3.cisco.com (sj-inbound-3.cisco.com [128.107.250.144]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6ILvuuJ020048 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (gw.openss7.com [142.179.199.224]) by sj-inbound-3.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6ILvrra028375 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:EN2QvLS1oKE8SiVLoQZxLpMtD87Vhm+z@ns1.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.1]) by gw.openss7.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6ILojP20803; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:50:45 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by ns.pigworks.openss7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h6ILojl19169; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:50:45 -0600 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:50:45 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" Cc: "Armando L. Caro Jr." , "Sctp-Impl (E-mail)" Subject: Re: timeout issue question Message-ID: <20030718155045.A19100@openss7.org> Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org References: <3F186966.8010205@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3F186966.8010205@cisco.com>; from rrs@cisco.com on Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 04:40:54PM -0500 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: Return-Receipt-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Randall, So are you saying one should (could) set the count to 0 on T3 retransmit instead of to, say, 4? --brian On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Randall Stewart (cisco) wrote: > Armando/all: > > The orginal problem with multiple FR's was > you did not want to keep FR'ing the same thing multiple times.. but > in the case of a timeout... you would have "cleared the pipe" so I don't > see it a problem, after a T-3 that you FR... > > I.e: > > Tmit(TSN1)----------> > > <--4 sakc/strikes > ----FR(TSN1)-------------> > .... > T3-Timeout > -----Retran TSN1----------> > .. > > At point the pipe is empty.. so it should be more than > safe to do > > <----4 sack/strikes > > -------FR(TSN1)----------> > > and possibly repeat the timeout assuming of course that you can > ever reach a point where you send out enough new data to get > a FR... > > Remember the thing we did not want (with the FR wording) was > > ------FR(TSN1)------------> > <---4 sacks-------- > ------FR(TSN1)------------> > <---4 sacks------- > -----FR(TSN1)------------> > > Since the sacks may all be in the pipe .. i.e. a very big cwnd allows > 100 segments out.. you may have 50 out-of-order sacks on your > way to you after you realize a FR and send your FR... You don't want any > other FR's > until the timeout.. but after the time-out the pipe should be clean and if > you somehow recognize a FR situation then it should be ok to do a > subsequent. > > Note this does not take into acount the CACC issues that Jana as raised > in hte > past and I do need to think about that too.. but for the moment I think > a subsequent FR after a timeout shoudl be ok.. but of course once the > subsequent > FR is done until the next T3 you could not do yet another FR :> > > > R > > > -- > > Randall R. Stewart > ITD > Cisco Systems Inc. > rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) > -- Brian F. G. Bidulock ¦ The reasonable man adapts himself to the ¦ bidulock@openss7.org ¦ world; the unreasonable one persists in ¦ http://www.openss7.org/ ¦ trying to adapt the world to himself. ¦ ¦ Therefore all progress depends on the ¦ ¦ unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw ¦ From rrs@cisco.com Fri Jul 18 18:06:44 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA15123 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ddND-0003uo-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:06:43 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ddN2-0003ud-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:06:33 -0400 Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6ILSbpp026050; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (dhcp-128-107-163-59.cisco.com [128.107.163.59]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with ESMTP id AJT29230; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F186685.6090807@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:28:37 -0500 From: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030323 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xiaodan Tang CC: "Sctp-Impl (E-mail)" Subject: Re: SCTP_SET_PEER_PRIMARY_ADDR References: <3F02E8D1.2070803@cisco.com> <016f01c34bb0$372a6b40$d200020a@suryc> In-Reply-To: <016f01c34bb0$372a6b40$d200020a@suryc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xiaodan Tang wrote: >If I am reading the draft correct, this is a setsockopt() *ONLY* now, >so it shouldn't be pass to sctp_opt_info(), right? > >-xtang > > > > Yep... thats right.. it is only a set not a get... R -- Randall R. Stewart ITD Cisco Systems Inc. rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) From rrs@cisco.com Fri Jul 18 18:36:54 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA16833 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ddqR-0004B4-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:36:55 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ddqH-0004AP-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:36:45 -0400 Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6IMZGuJ026320; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (dhcp-128-107-163-59.cisco.com [128.107.163.59]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with ESMTP id AJT40432; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F187624.6090405@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:35:16 -0500 From: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030323 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bidulock@openss7.org CC: "Armando L. Caro Jr." , "Sctp-Impl (E-mail)" Subject: Re: timeout issue question References: <3F186966.8010205@cisco.com> <20030718155045.A19100@openss7.org> In-Reply-To: <20030718155045.A19100@openss7.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote: >Randall, > >So are you saying one should (could) set the count to 0 on T3 >retransmit instead of to, say, 4? > > Yep.. I don't see why not.. the purpose in the IG was to keep you from getting all the sack's yet in the pipe when you did the FR and doing multiple FR's again and again.. Once you hit a T3 you can reset the counter and count FR again.. if you could ever get that many new segments out.. I don't see how that would happen .. still not clear on this.. but I don't see that it shoudl be prohibited.. by the time you take the T3 the pipe shoudl be clear.. R >--brian > > >On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Randall Stewart (cisco) wrote: > > > >>Armando/all: >> >>The orginal problem with multiple FR's was >>you did not want to keep FR'ing the same thing multiple times.. but >>in the case of a timeout... you would have "cleared the pipe" so I don't >>see it a problem, after a T-3 that you FR... >> >>I.e: >> >>Tmit(TSN1)----------> >> >><--4 sakc/strikes >>----FR(TSN1)-------------> >>.... >>T3-Timeout >>-----Retran TSN1----------> >>.. >> >>At point the pipe is empty.. so it should be more than >>safe to do >> >><----4 sack/strikes >> >>-------FR(TSN1)----------> >> >>and possibly repeat the timeout assuming of course that you can >>ever reach a point where you send out enough new data to get >>a FR... >> >>Remember the thing we did not want (with the FR wording) was >> >>------FR(TSN1)------------> >><---4 sacks-------- >>------FR(TSN1)------------> >><---4 sacks------- >>-----FR(TSN1)------------> >> >>Since the sacks may all be in the pipe .. i.e. a very big cwnd allows >>100 segments out.. you may have 50 out-of-order sacks on your >>way to you after you realize a FR and send your FR... You don't want any >>other FR's >>until the timeout.. but after the time-out the pipe should be clean and if >>you somehow recognize a FR situation then it should be ok to do a >>subsequent. >> >>Note this does not take into acount the CACC issues that Jana as raised >>in hte >>past and I do need to think about that too.. but for the moment I think >>a subsequent FR after a timeout shoudl be ok.. but of course once the >>subsequent >>FR is done until the next T3 you could not do yet another FR :> >> >> >>R >> >> >>-- >> >>Randall R. Stewart >>ITD >>Cisco Systems Inc. >>rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) >> >> >> > > > -- Randall R. 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I guess the issue, which many people are discussing in the tsvwg mailing list, is that what if spurious timeout happens (even with retransmission to the same destination)? > Remember the thing we did not want (with the FR wording) was > > ------FR(TSN1)------------> > <---4 sacks-------- > ------FR(TSN1)------------> > <---4 sacks------- > -----FR(TSN1)------------> > > Since the sacks may all be in the pipe .. i.e. a very big cwnd allows > 100 segments out.. you may have 50 out-of-order sacks on your > way to you after you realize a FR and send your FR... You don't want any > other FR's > until the timeout.. but after the time-out the pipe should be clean and if > you somehow recognize a FR situation then it should be ok to do a > subsequent. > > Note this does not take into acount the CACC issues that Jana as raised > in hte > past and I do need to think about that too.. but for the moment I think > a subsequent FR after a timeout shoudl be ok.. but of course once the > subsequent > FR is done until the next T3 you could not do yet another FR :> It seems to me that there is really not much gain to allow FR after a timeout. It only helps when the timeout retransmission is also dropped. If that happens, the network is really congested and it is good for SCTP to wait for another timeout. I guess SCTP implementors should be more conservative in this case. -- K. 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    ughatzr f tsstfgpwh ptyed nfdqgeriw d --_196D.D84.._2_DB6E4A1__E-- From yuzhou@ece.ubc.ca Tue Jul 22 21:31:06 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA02932 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:31:06 -0400 (EDT) From: yuzhou@ece.ubc.ca Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19f8TD-0000oX-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:31:07 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19f8T2-0000oN-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:30:57 -0400 Received: from sj-inbound-3.cisco.com (sj-inbound-3.cisco.com [128.107.250.144]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6N1STQk024159 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice.ece.ubc.ca (postfix@postoffice.ece.ubc.ca [137.82.52.84]) by sj-inbound-3.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6N1SQ9Q017283 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postoffice.ece.ubc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A9537FD8; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice.ece.ubc.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (postoffice [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02954-08; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deliver1.ece.ubc.ca (deliver1.ece.ubc.ca [137.82.52.165]) by postoffice.ece.ubc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D8F37FD6; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by deliver1.ece.ubc.ca (Postfix, from userid 33) id C95CD479A9; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 218.2.140.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user yuzhou) by www.ece.ubc.ca with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <65243.218.2.140.21.1058923516.squirrel@www.ece.ubc.ca> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: RFC 2960, section 7.2.2 - partial_bytes_acked To: In-Reply-To: <3F1D85A3.4000106@ulticom.com> References: <3F1D85A3.4000106@ulticom.com> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cc: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.7) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis and NOD32 at ece.ubc.ca Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi David, The procedure woule be like this. /* o Whenever cwnd is greater than ssthresh, upon each SACK arrival that advances the Cumulative TSN Ack Point, increase partial_bytes_acked by the total number of bytes of all new chunks acknowledged in that SACK including chunks acknowledged by the new Cumulative TSN Ack and by Gap Ack Blocks. */ if cwnd > ssthresh partial_bytes_acked+=Total Bytes Acked in the SACK; /* o When partial_bytes_acked is equal to or greater than cwnd and before the arrival of the SACK the sender had cwnd or more bytes of data outstanding (i.e., before arrival of the SACK, flightsize was greater than or equal to cwnd), increase cwnd by MTU, and reset partial_bytes_acked to (partial_bytes_acked - cwnd). */ if partial_bytes_acked >= cwnd & flightsize >= cwnd cwnd+=MTU; partial_bytes_acked-=cwnd; end end So there is not case where partial_bytes_acked could be negative. If the conditions are not true, I think we should leave the value unchanged. > RFC 2960, section 7.2.2, says: > o When partial_bytes_acked is equal to or greater than cwnd and > before the arrival of the SACK the sender had cwnd or more bytes > of data outstanding (i.e., before arrival of the SACK, flightsize > was greater than or equal to cwnd), increase cwnd by MTU, and > reset partial_bytes_acked to (partial_bytes_acked - cwnd). > > What should SCTP do if the first condition (partial_bytes_acked >= cwnd) > is true, but the second condition (prev_flightsize >= cwnd) is false? > Should partial_bytes_acked be left unchanged? That is, leave > partial_bytes_acked >= cwnd. If so, it could grow again... and again. > Or should we set it to zero or to cwnd if the prev_flightsize < cwnd? > > Also, is the order of the steps correct? If > partial_bytes_acked == cwnd and I follow those > steps above, partial_bytes_acked will become negative. > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Zhou Yu % Electrical and Computer Enigneering, UBC % vancouver Canada % Email: yuzhou@ece.ubc.ca %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From bidulock@openss7.org Tue Jul 22 23:19:17 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA04194 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:19:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fA9v-0001GC-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:19:19 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] helo=sj-iport-2.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fA9f-0001G1-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:19:03 -0400 Received: from openss7.org (171.71.177.254) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 22 Jul 2003 20:19:06 -0700 Received: from sj-inbound-1.cisco.com (sj-inbound-1.cisco.com [128.107.250.142]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6N3HLuD005453 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (IDENT:sz+9LGmbV33TTvi9ydaCUgucclmft+6q@gw.openss7.com [142.179.199.224]) by sj-inbound-1.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6N3HHbp021932 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:1JQpiT8qtWVNKQdFZVpaJCPaLaaYrztz@ns1.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.1]) by gw.openss7.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6N3A1119799; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:10:01 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by ns.pigworks.openss7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h6N3A0610720; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:10:00 -0600 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:10:00 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: yuzhou@ece.ubc.ca Cc: lehmann@ulticom.com, sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: RFC 2960, section 7.2.2 - partial_bytes_acked Message-ID: <20030722211000.A10307@openss7.org> Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org References: <3F1D85A3.4000106@ulticom.com> <65243.218.2.140.21.1058923516.squirrel@www.ece.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <65243.218.2.140.21.1058923516.squirrel@www.ece.ubc.ca>; from yuzhou@ece.ubc.ca on Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 06:25:16PM -0700 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: Return-Receipt-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David, I do: if (sd->cwnd <= sd->ssthresh) { /* RFC 2960 7.2.1 */ if (sd->in_flight > sd->cwnd) sd->cwnd += accum < sd->mtu ? accum : sd->mtu; } else { /* RFC 2960 7.2.2 */ sd->partial_ack += accum; if (sd->in_flight >= sd->cwnd && sd->partial_ack >= sd->cwnd) { sd->cwnd += sd->mtu; sd->partial_ack -= sd->cwnd; } } Which is pretty much the same as Zhou describes below. --brian On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, yuzhou@ece.ubc.ca wrote: > Hi David, > The procedure woule be like this. > /* o Whenever cwnd is greater than ssthresh, upon each SACK arrival > that advances the Cumulative TSN Ack Point, increase > partial_bytes_acked by the total number of bytes of all new chunks > acknowledged in that SACK including chunks acknowledged by the new > Cumulative TSN Ack and by Gap Ack Blocks. > */ > if cwnd > ssthresh > partial_bytes_acked+=Total Bytes Acked in the SACK; > > /* o When partial_bytes_acked is equal to or greater than cwnd and > before the arrival of the SACK the sender had cwnd or more bytes > of data outstanding (i.e., before arrival of the SACK, flightsize > was greater than or equal to cwnd), increase cwnd by MTU, and > reset partial_bytes_acked to (partial_bytes_acked - cwnd). > */ > if partial_bytes_acked >= cwnd & flightsize >= cwnd > cwnd+=MTU; > partial_bytes_acked-=cwnd; > end > end > So there is not case where partial_bytes_acked could be negative. > If the conditions are not true, I think we should leave the value unchanged. > > RFC 2960, section 7.2.2, says: > > o When partial_bytes_acked is equal to or greater than cwnd and > > before the arrival of the SACK the sender had cwnd or more bytes > > of data outstanding (i.e., before arrival of the SACK, flightsize > > was greater than or equal to cwnd), increase cwnd by MTU, and > > reset partial_bytes_acked to (partial_bytes_acked - cwnd). > > > > What should SCTP do if the first condition (partial_bytes_acked >= cwnd) > > is true, but the second condition (prev_flightsize >= cwnd) is false? > > Should partial_bytes_acked be left unchanged? That is, leave > > partial_bytes_acked >= cwnd. If so, it could grow again... and again. > > Or should we set it to zero or to cwnd if the prev_flightsize < cwnd? > > > > Also, is the order of the steps correct? If > > partial_bytes_acked == cwnd and I follow those > > steps above, partial_bytes_acked will become negative. > > > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > % Zhou Yu > % Electrical and Computer Enigneering, UBC > % vancouver Canada > % Email: yuzhou@ece.ubc.ca > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > -- Brian F. G. Bidulock ¦ The reasonable man adapts himself to the ¦ bidulock@openss7.org ¦ world; the unreasonable one persists in ¦ http://www.openss7.org/ ¦ trying to adapt the world to himself. ¦ ¦ Therefore all progress depends on the ¦ ¦ unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw ¦ From emekis2222@juno.com Tue Jul 22 23:51:33 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA04813 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:51:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fAf9-0001PQ-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:51:35 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fAey-0001P9-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:51:24 -0400 Received: from juno.com (171.71.177.254) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 22 Jul 2003 20:56:36 -0700 Received: from sj-inbound-1.cisco.com (sj-inbound-1.cisco.com [128.107.250.142]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6N3npuD021057 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n2now1314.com (80.179.101.203.forward.012.net.il [80.179.101.203]) by sj-inbound-1.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with SMTP id h6N3mtbp001981 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200307230349.h6N3mtbp001981@sj-inbound-1.cisco.com> From: "DR SIMON A .J. 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Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fJDa-0004M0-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:59:42 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] helo=sj-iport-2.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fJDP-0004LR-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:59:32 -0400 Received: from ulticom.com (171.71.177.238) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 23 Jul 2003 05:59:15 -0700 Received: from sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (sj-inbound-4.cisco.com [128.107.250.145]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6NCvN89001139 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 05:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chuckie.dgms.com (angelica.ulticom.com [208.255.120.2]) by sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6NCvUcT008151 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 05:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulticom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chuckie.dgms.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02563 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:30:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3F1E8000.9070007@ulticom.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:30:56 -0400 From: David Lehmann User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SCTP Implementors Subject: Re: RFC 2960, section 7.2.2 - partial_bytes_acked References: <3F1D85A3.4000106@ulticom.com> <65243.218.2.140.21.1058923516.squirrel@www.ece.ubc.ca> In-Reply-To: <65243.218.2.140.21.1058923516.squirrel@www.ece.ubc.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yuzhou@ece.ubc.ca wrote: > partial_bytes_acked+=Total Bytes Acked in the SACK; > if partial_bytes_acked >= cwnd & flightsize >= cwnd > cwnd+=MTU; > partial_bytes_acked-=cwnd; > end > end > So there is not case where partial_bytes_acked could be negative. Let's say (partial_bytes_acked == cwnd). Wouldn't partial_bytes_acked be equal to negative MTU if (flightsize >= cwnd)? And if so, was this intended? The logic seems to be out of order. We are counting bytes acked. As long as the bytes acked < cwnd, it is "partial". When we get a full cwnd worth of acked data, then we want to increase the cwnd. This is fine. However, it seems to me that when we want to reset the counter (partial_bytes_acked), it should subtract the cwnd value to which we were originally comparing partial_bytes_acked. Otherwise, we are losing one MTU worth of acked data. In addition, it is possible that flightsize < cwnd on consecutive sacks. In this case partial_bytes_acked could become very large. If so, was this intended? What is the expected range for partial_bytes_acked? -- David Lehmann Ulticom, Inc. AOL/Yahoo IM: davidULCM 1020 Briggs Road 1-856-787-2729 Mt. Laurel, NJ 08054 USA From cait@asomi.com Wed Jul 23 10:22:50 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA14776 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fKW4-00052H-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:22:52 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] helo=sj-iport-2.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fKVt-00051p-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:22:41 -0400 Received: from asomi.com (171.71.177.237) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 23 Jul 2003 07:23:04 -0700 Received: from sj-inbound-2.cisco.com (sj-inbound-2.cisco.com [128.107.250.143]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6NEKYQk010118 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 07:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thebe.your-site.com (thebe.your-site.com [140.186.45.26]) by sj-inbound-2.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6NEKGnE001928 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 07:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 192.168.0.2 (64-144-5-25.client.dsl.net [64.144.5.25]) by thebe.your-site.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3C1244A7C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:16:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:16:48 -0500 From: Caitlin Bestler Subject: RFC 2960, section 6.1.3 - Data Chunk Retransmissions To: SCTP Implementors X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <3F1E8000.9070007@ulticom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.0 (Blindsider) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Section 6.1 of RFC2960 specifies: > C) When the time comes for the sender to transmit, before > sending new DATA chunks, the sender MUST first transmit > any outstanding DATA chunks which are marked for > retransmission (limited by the current cwnd). If that means "when choosing the next Data Chunk for inclusion in an outbound SCTP packet a Data Chunk marked for retransmission MUST be taken in preference to initial Data Chunks." then I have no problems. But I can see some cases where the MUST might imply steps that I would consider to be counter-productive and/or require specific permissive interpretations. Comments on the desirability/legality of each would be appreciated: -- Recalling already queued but untransmitted SCTP Packets because they contain Data Chunks that are new. Permissive Interpretation: Not a violation if "transmission" can be understood to be done at the time the SCTP Packet is submitted to the IP layer, as opposed to when it hits the wire. -- Holding off inclusion of a new unordered Data chunk that fits within the current SCTP packet because there is a Data Chunk that needs retransmission -- even though it won't fit within the current SCTP packet. -- Allowing a new Data Chunk to be sent because it is "available" for transmission, while the Data Chunk that requires retransmission is not. Permissive interpretation: the Data Chunk is not a Data Chunk until it is available. It is merely a TSN that has been flagged for retransmission. Explanation: A typical Network Processor has a small amount of memory intended to support "Fast Path" work. Using this memory to hold already sent buffers that will probably be acked (99%+) would not be an optimum use of this critical resource. Instead, the Data Chunks would be left in their original "slow path" memory. If a new Data Chunk is already in "fast memory", would it make sense to overwrite it from slow path memory, send the retransmission and *then* refetch the original Data Chunk from slow memory? Slow memory might be a processor buffer accessed over a system bus that may be barely faster than the network interface. Allowing the already fetched Data Chunk to take precedence over the unfetched Data Chunk would reduce the amount of churn on the system bus. When dealing with a high speed network interface and a legacy system bus this can be very desirable. 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    lfixesqqpkvh vweefse --1C2E8_0_.A__2CD-- From rrs@cisco.com Thu Jul 24 10:52:31 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA09808 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:52:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fhSM-0006cj-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:52:35 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fhSC-0006cF-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:52:24 -0400 Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6OEo6uG002564; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (ssh-sjc-1.cisco.com [171.68.225.134]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with ESMTP id AJZ06311; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F1FF21D.7000700@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:50:05 -0500 From: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030323 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Lehmann , Lixia Zhang CC: SCTP Implementors Subject: Re: RFC 2960, section 7.2.2 - partial_bytes_acked References: <3F1D85A3.4000106@ulticom.com> <65243.218.2.140.21.1058923516.squirrel@www.ece.ubc.ca> <3F1E8000.9070007@ulticom.com> In-Reply-To: <3F1E8000.9070007@ulticom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David: I am still traveling so email is spotty for me :> sorry for the delayed response.. I have a similar algroithm to what Brian and Zhou layed out: { /* We are in congestion avoidance */ if (((net->flight_size+net->net_ack) >= net->cwnd) || (asoc->burst_limit_applied)) { /* add to pba only if we * had a cwnd's worth (or so) in flight OR * the burst limit was applied. */ net->partial_bytes_acked += net->net_ack; /* Do we need to increase (if pba is > cwnd)? */ if (net->partial_bytes_acked >= net->cwnd) { if (net->cwnd < net->partial_bytes_acked) { net->partial_bytes_acked -= net->cwnd; } else { net->partial_bytes_acked = 0; } net->cwnd += net->mtu; } } Note that: 1) I will NOT let pba go negative... It can if you bump cwnd first but it was NEVER intended that it be allowed to go negative (IMO)... so I don't let it :> 2) Note that I DO NOT credit PBA unless the full cwnd is being used. This I realize is unspecified.. and I think could be done either way.. I just did not think it right.. otherwise you could hit a situation where you build pba up to 4 MTU's and then, when you finally do use the full cwnd (say for 4 send op's) you would do basically a slow-start for the next 3-4 acks or so... This seemed wrong and against the spirit of what the idea that Lixia intended when she wrote the PBA algorithm... Maybe we should specify it better, I am adding Lixia on here to get her opinion... R David Lehmann wrote: > yuzhou@ece.ubc.ca wrote: > >> partial_bytes_acked+=Total Bytes Acked in the SACK; >> if partial_bytes_acked >= cwnd & flightsize >= cwnd >> cwnd+=MTU; >> partial_bytes_acked-=cwnd; >> end >> end >> So there is not case where partial_bytes_acked could be negative. > > > Let's say (partial_bytes_acked == cwnd). > Wouldn't partial_bytes_acked be equal to negative MTU if > (flightsize >= cwnd)? > And if so, was this intended? > > The logic seems to be out of order. We are counting bytes > acked. As long as the bytes acked < cwnd, it is "partial". > When we get a full cwnd worth of acked data, then we want > to increase the cwnd. This is fine. However, it seems to > me that when we want to reset the counter (partial_bytes_acked), > it should subtract the cwnd value to which we were originally > comparing partial_bytes_acked. Otherwise, we are losing one MTU worth > of acked data. > > In addition, it is possible that flightsize < cwnd on consecutive > sacks. In this case partial_bytes_acked could become very > large. If so, was this intended? > > What is the expected range for partial_bytes_acked? > -- Randall R. Stewart ITD Cisco Systems Inc. rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) From rrs@cisco.com Thu Jul 24 10:54:08 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA09840 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:54:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fhTv-0006dL-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:54:11 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fhTl-0006d9-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:54:01 -0400 Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6OEqXuD029410; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (ssh-sjc-1.cisco.com [171.68.225.134]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with ESMTP id AJZ06561; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F1FF2AF.6070603@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:52:31 -0500 From: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030323 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Caitlin Bestler CC: SCTP Implementors Subject: Re: RFC 2960, section 6.1.3 - Data Chunk Retransmissions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Caitlin Bestler wrote: >Section 6.1 of RFC2960 specifies: > > > >>C) When the time comes for the sender to transmit, before >>sending new DATA chunks, the sender MUST first transmit >>any outstanding DATA chunks which are marked for >>retransmission (limited by the current cwnd). >> >> Caitlin: I will not comment on your other items below.. since the SINGLE purpose of C) is to make sure you re-send things marked to be retransmitted BEFORE sending new data chunks that have never been transmitted... i.e. your comment " a Data Chunk marked for retransmission MUST be taken in preference to initial Data Chunks." Is EXACTLY what is intended by this statement. R >If that means "when choosing the next Data Chunk for >inclusion in an outbound SCTP packet a Data Chunk marked >for retransmission MUST be taken in preference to initial >Data Chunks." then I have no problems. > >But I can see some cases where the MUST might imply steps >that I would consider to be counter-productive and/or require >specific permissive interpretations. > >Comments on the desirability/legality of each would be appreciated: > >-- Recalling already queued but untransmitted SCTP Packets > because they contain Data Chunks that are new. > > Permissive Interpretation: Not a violation if "transmission" > can be understood to be done at the time the SCTP Packet is > submitted to the IP layer, as opposed to when it hits the wire. > >-- Holding off inclusion of a new unordered Data chunk that fits > within the current SCTP packet because there is a Data Chunk > that needs retransmission -- even though it won't fit within > the current SCTP packet. > >-- Allowing a new Data Chunk to be sent because it is "available" > for transmission, while the Data Chunk that requires retransmission > is not. > > Permissive interpretation: the Data Chunk is not a Data Chunk until > it is available. It is merely a TSN that has been flagged for retransmission. > > Explanation: A typical Network Processor has a small amount of memory > intended to support "Fast Path" work. Using this memory to hold already > sent buffers that will probably be acked (99%+) would not be an optimum > use of this critical resource. Instead, the Data Chunks would be left in > their original "slow path" memory. > > If a new Data Chunk is already in "fast memory", would it make sense > to overwrite it from slow path memory, send the retransmission and > *then* refetch the original Data Chunk from slow memory? Slow > memory might be a processor buffer accessed over a system bus that > may be barely faster than the network interface. > > Allowing the already fetched Data Chunk to take precedence over > the unfetched Data Chunk would reduce the amount of churn on > the system bus. When dealing with a high speed network interface > and a legacy system bus this can be very desirable. > > > > -- Randall R. Stewart ITD Cisco Systems Inc. rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) From bidulock@openss7.org Thu Jul 24 11:47:26 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA11525 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:47:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fiJW-00071q-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:47:30 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fiJG-00071Q-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:47:14 -0400 Received: from openss7.org (171.71.177.237) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 24 Jul 2003 08:46:10 -0700 Received: from sj-inbound-1.cisco.com (sj-inbound-1.cisco.com [128.107.250.142]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6OFjSQk004633 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (IDENT:2x7y2/VWV4Nwbfdm65i8yGyzs2YNUe3V@gw.openss7.com [142.179.199.224]) by sj-inbound-1.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6OFjZqu017036 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:3XScG7AAcYFdC9tkM4fCD8MVGnIXUT+F@ns1.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.1]) by gw.openss7.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6OFd0119472; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:39:00 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by ns.pigworks.openss7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h6OFcxO08596; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:38:59 -0600 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:38:59 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" Cc: Caitlin Bestler , SCTP Implementors Subject: Re: RFC 2960, section 6.1.3 - Data Chunk Retransmissions Message-ID: <20030724093859.A8372@openss7.org> Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org References: <3F1FF2AF.6070603@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3F1FF2AF.6070603@cisco.com>; from rrs@cisco.com on Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 09:52:31AM -0500 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: Return-Receipt-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Randall, On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Randall Stewart (cisco) wrote: > Caitlin Bestler wrote: > > >Section 6.1 of RFC2960 specifies: > > > > > > > >>C) When the time comes for the sender to transmit, before > >>sending new DATA chunks, the sender MUST first transmit > >>any outstanding DATA chunks which are marked for > >>retransmission (limited by the current cwnd). > >> > >> > Caitlin: > > I will not comment on your other items below.. since the > SINGLE purpose of C) is to make sure you re-send things > marked to be retransmitted BEFORE sending new data > chunks that have never been transmitted... Why MUST instead of SHOULD? Could you explain how the Internet will be destroyed if I send out of order data chunks on stream 0 ahead of retransmissions? --brian > > i.e. your comment > > " a Data Chunk marked > for retransmission MUST be taken in preference to initial > Data Chunks." > > Is EXACTLY what is intended by this statement. > > R > > >If that means "when choosing the next Data Chunk for > >inclusion in an outbound SCTP packet a Data Chunk marked > >for retransmission MUST be taken in preference to initial > >Data Chunks." then I have no problems. > > > >But I can see some cases where the MUST might imply steps > >that I would consider to be counter-productive and/or require > >specific permissive interpretations. > > > >Comments on the desirability/legality of each would be appreciated: > > > >-- Recalling already queued but untransmitted SCTP Packets > > because they contain Data Chunks that are new. > > > > Permissive Interpretation: Not a violation if "transmission" > > can be understood to be done at the time the SCTP Packet is > > submitted to the IP layer, as opposed to when it hits the wire. > > > >-- Holding off inclusion of a new unordered Data chunk that fits > > within the current SCTP packet because there is a Data Chunk > > that needs retransmission -- even though it won't fit within > > the current SCTP packet. > > > >-- Allowing a new Data Chunk to be sent because it is "available" > > for transmission, while the Data Chunk that requires retransmission > > is not. > > > > Permissive interpretation: the Data Chunk is not a Data Chunk until > > it is available. It is merely a TSN that has been flagged for retransmission. > > > > Explanation: A typical Network Processor has a small amount of memory > > intended to support "Fast Path" work. Using this memory to hold already > > sent buffers that will probably be acked (99%+) would not be an optimum > > use of this critical resource. Instead, the Data Chunks would be left in > > their original "slow path" memory. > > > > If a new Data Chunk is already in "fast memory", would it make sense > > to overwrite it from slow path memory, send the retransmission and > > *then* refetch the original Data Chunk from slow memory? Slow > > memory might be a processor buffer accessed over a system bus that > > may be barely faster than the network interface. > > > > Allowing the already fetched Data Chunk to take precedence over > > the unfetched Data Chunk would reduce the amount of churn on > > the system bus. When dealing with a high speed network interface > > and a legacy system bus this can be very desirable. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Randall R. Stewart > ITD > Cisco Systems Inc. > rrs@cisco.com 815-342-5222(cell) or 815-477-2127(office) > -- Brian F. G. Bidulock ¦ The reasonable man adapts himself to the ¦ bidulock@openss7.org ¦ world; the unreasonable one persists in ¦ http://www.openss7.org/ ¦ trying to adapt the world to himself. ¦ ¦ Therefore all progress depends on the ¦ ¦ unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw ¦ From cait@asomi.com Thu Jul 24 12:03:01 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA11888 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:03:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fiYb-00077x-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:03:05 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] helo=sj-iport-2.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fiYQ-00077b-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:02:55 -0400 Received: from asomi.com (171.71.177.237) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 24 Jul 2003 09:03:25 -0700 Received: from sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (sj-inbound-4.cisco.com [128.107.250.145]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6OG18Qk022677 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thebe.your-site.com (thebe.your-site.com [140.186.45.26]) by sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6OG1GcT010615 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asomi.com (64-144-5-25.client.dsl.net [64.144.5.25]) by thebe.your-site.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BA02455E7; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:57:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:57:22 -0500 Subject: Re: RFC 2960, section 6.1.3 - Data Chunk Retransmissions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: SCTP Implementors To: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" From: Caitlin Bestler In-Reply-To: <3F1FF2AF.6070603@cisco.com> Message-Id: <82E60775-BDEF-11D7-B39F-003065D48EE0@asomi.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thursday, July 24, 2003, at 09:52 AM, Randall Stewart (cisco) wrote: > Caitlin Bestler wrote: > >> Section 6.1 of RFC2960 specifies: >> >> >>> C) When the time comes for the sender to transmit, before >>> sending new DATA chunks, the sender MUST first transmit >>> any outstanding DATA chunks which are marked for >>> retransmission (limited by the current cwnd). >>> > Caitlin: > > I will not comment on your other items below.. since the > SINGLE purpose of C) is to make sure you re-send things > marked to be retransmitted BEFORE sending new data > chunks that have never been transmitted... > > i.e. your comment > > " a Data Chunk marked > for retransmission MUST be taken in preference to initial > Data Chunks." > > Is EXACTLY what is intended by this statement. > > So, suppose that for implementation specific reasons, the set of Data Chunks being considered for inclusion in a new packet is a subset of all possible Data Chunks. 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With an unpatched kernel, the following code does what I want it to do (i.e. it turns on all notification events). printf("set all events on\n"); memset(&events, 1, sizeof(events)); if (setsockopt(fd, IPPROTO_SCTP, SCTP_SET_EVENTS, &events, sizeof(events)) != 0) { perror("setsockopt failed"); exit(1); } However, after I apply lksctp-2_6_0-test1-0_7_2.patch I get: setsockopt failed: Invalid argument -- mark@nospameasterbrook.org.uk CEng MBCS G0JPW R1100RT From sri@us.ibm.com Thu Jul 24 14:44:13 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA20892 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fl4Z-0000oZ-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:44:16 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.70] helo=sj-iport-1.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19fl4C-0000oR-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:43:55 -0400 Received: from sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (sj-inbound-4.cisco.com [128.107.250.145]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6OIgFuG027861 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from e34.co.us.ibm.com (e34.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.132]) by sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6OIgNcT019196 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from westrelay04.boulder.ibm.com (westrelay04.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.193.32]) by e34.co.us.ibm.com (8.12.9/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h6OIX6Eh276678; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:33:06 -0400 Received: from w-sridhar.beaverton.ibm.com (d03av02.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.193.82]) by westrelay04.boulder.ibm.com (8.12.9/NCO/VER6.5) with ESMTP id h6OIWuFD139728; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:32:58 -0600 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:28:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Sridhar Samudrala X-X-Sender: sridhar@w-sridhar.beaverton.ibm.com To: Mark Easterbrook cc: SCTP-impl , Subject: Re: Problem with lksctp-2_6_0-test1-0_7_2.patch In-Reply-To: <3F2018EF.4020205@easterbrook.org.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mark, The latest 2.6.0-test1 patch updates the socket option names and values to be consistent with the new draft API(not yet released). So you need to rebuild your applications with the header file and library included in the corresponding lksctp-tools as i mentioned in the announcement of this release. SCTP_SET_EVENTS is changed to SCTP_EVENTS as it can be used with both setsockopt() and getsockopt(). Also, this is not the right mailing list to raise lksctp specific issues. 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Only one association between endpoints 2. No resource allocated before the complete SCTP setup My question is if the second item is necessary. Or only with the first = conditon, the SYN-flooding attack might be avoided. What I am thinking is that one association means one port to one port. = Before the complete setup, eventhough any resource will be allocated, = there is no case to consume up the resource of attacked host.=20 looking forward to your response... Best Regards Lei From bidulock@openss7.org Mon Jul 28 08:09:22 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA28827 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19h6oe-0001Ya-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:09:24 -0400 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19h6od-0001YP-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:09:23 -0400 Received: from sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (sj-inbound-4.cisco.com [128.107.250.145]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6SB9Jpp011216 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 04:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.openss7.com (IDENT:yTsskNv9Zz5IPELPUJCOW8WucgYtpl08@gw.openss7.com [142.179.199.224]) by sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6SB9H2F026244 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 04:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.pigworks.openss7.net (IDENT:/0TBW8pVk+GXuiJkRY71u1nUTmuLDAfI@ns1.evil.openss7.net [192.168.9.1]) by gw.openss7.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6SB1uE30405; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:01:56 -0600 Received: (from brian@localhost) by ns.pigworks.openss7.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h6SB1uS21335; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:01:56 -0600 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:01:56 -0600 From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" To: Lei Zhang Cc: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: About SYN-flooding like attack in SCTP Message-ID: <20030728050156.A21122@openss7.org> Reply-To: bidulock@openss7.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from s010884@com.dtu.dk on Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 12:21:05PM +0200 Organization: http://www.openss7.org/ Dsn-Notification-To: Return-Receipt-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by sj-core-4.cisco.com id h6SB9Jpp011216 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lei, Your error is at 1. TCP only allows one connection between endpoints. 1. is not sufficient to avoid flooding attacks. 2. alone is sufficient to avoid flooding attacks. --brian On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Lei Zhang wrote: > Hi,=20 >=20 > One of the famous malicious attacking in TCP is the SYN-flooding attack. > However, SCTP has its own way to avoid it: >=20 > 1. Only one association between endpoints > 2. No resource allocated before the complete SCTP setup >=20 > My question is if the second item is necessary. Or only with the first > conditon, the SYN-flooding attack might be avoided. >=20 > What I am thinking is that one association means one port to one port. > Before the complete setup, eventhough any resource will be allocated, t= here > is no case to consume up the resource of attacked host.=20 >=20 > looking forward to your response... >=20 > Best Regards >=20 > Lei --=20 Brian F. G. 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I did think of one item, closely related. Sending a "more convenient" data chunk should not take precedence over sending "the correct chunk" even when in fact it means sending a packet that is not fully packed when inclusion of the more-convenient-chunk will exhaust the send credits, and thereby prevent the retransmit-chunks from being sent when they are ready. But if *both* can be sent, I don't see any benefit in mandating that one MUST be sent before the other. SHOULD, yes. But "SHOULD" allows for factors like "A SHOULD go before B, but B is not ready to be sent". So perhaps that suggests a clarification along the lines of MUST NOT send a new Data Chunk if doing so will delay the sending a Data Chunk that require retransmission. 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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030313 X-Accept-Language: en, zh-hk, zh-tw, zh-cn MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SCTP Implementors Subject: Re: RFC 2960, section 6.1.3 - Data Chunk Retransmissions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Caitlin Bestler wrote: > I did think of one item, closely related. > > Sending a "more convenient" data chunk should not take precedence > over sending "the correct chunk" even when in fact it means > sending a packet that is not fully packed when inclusion of > the more-convenient-chunk will exhaust the send credits, and > thereby prevent the retransmit-chunks from being sent when > they are ready. > > But if *both* can be sent, I don't see any benefit in mandating > that one MUST be sent before the other. SHOULD, yes. But "SHOULD" > allows for factors like "A SHOULD go before B, but B is not ready > to be sent". > > So perhaps that suggests a clarification along the lines of > > MUST NOT send a new Data Chunk if doing so will delay > the sending a Data Chunk that require retransmission. Some more related issues: 1. Will sending new data chunks first induce more duplicate SACKs being sent, thus confuse the sender? 2. Does the MUST requirement prevent algorithms like F-RTO? I guess implementors trying F-RTO will ignore the MUST. -- K. 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Tue, 29 Jul 2003 06:51:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19hS4R-0004FB-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 06:51:08 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] helo=sj-iport-2.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19hS4R-0004Eg-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 06:51:07 -0400 Received: from com.dtu.dk (171.71.177.254) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2003 03:53:15 -0700 Received: from sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (sj-inbound-4.cisco.com [128.107.250.145]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6TAo6uD026605 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from com.dtu.dk (mail.com.dtu.dk [192.38.68.3]) by sj-inbound-4.cisco.com (8.12.8p1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h6TAoExW011564 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 03:50:15 -0700 (PDT) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: a question of rcv-buf initializaion X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:47:23 +0200 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: a question of rcv-buf initializaion Thread-Index: AcNVvsr8FEOpwcRpSEOmE0H1wryMuQ== From: "Lei Zhang" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi: During initialization of SCTP, a receive buffer should be set as 2^32 = (42947295). I wonder if there is any other conditions like in TCP [rcv_buff =3D (4 * snd_mss < 65536) ? 4 * snd_mss : 65536 ] has been = specified in SCTP. Somebody could kindly tell me for sure? Thanks a lot Lei From rrs@cisco.com Tue Jul 29 09:55:52 2003 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA22841 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19hUxI-0005gQ-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:55:56 -0400 Received: from sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] helo=sj-iport-2.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19hUxH-0005g7-00 for sctp-impl-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:55:55 -0400 Received: from cisco.com (171.71.177.254) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2003 06:58:02 -0700 Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6TDsXuF002018; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 06:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cisco.com (sj-dial-4-99.cisco.com [10.19.235.227]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with ESMTP id AKD98735; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 06:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F267C99.7040702@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:54:33 -0500 From: "Randall Stewart (cisco)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030323 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lei Zhang CC: sctp-impl@external.cisco.com Subject: Re: a question of rcv-buf initializaion References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lei Zhang wrote: >Hi: > >During initialization of SCTP, a receive buffer should be set as 2^32 (42947295). I wonder if there is any other conditions like in TCP > >[rcv_buff = (4 * snd_mss < 65536) ? 4 * snd_mss : 65536 ] has been specified in SCTP. > >Somebody could kindly tell me for sure? > >Thanks a lot > >Lei > > > The KAME stack sets it equal to a configured value of 128k... a larger value by default is a good thing ... it helps in long bandwidth/delay situations... I don't think there is a requireiment on what you set it to... but the larger you can make it I think the better..... R -- Randall R. 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