From nobody Thu Oct 1 08:38:05 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: secdispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: secdispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348553A0A7E for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 08:38:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0g9O2_r5qc4s for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 08:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outgoing-exchange-7.mit.edu (outgoing-exchange-7.mit.edu [18.9.28.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCC193A0BF2 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 08:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oc11exedge1.exchange.mit.edu (OC11EXEDGE1.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU [18.9.3.17]) by outgoing-exchange-7.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 091Fbf6e004023 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 11:37:57 -0400 Received: from oc11expo23.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.88) by oc11exedge1.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.3.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1293.2; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 11:36:48 -0400 Received: from oc11expo23.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.88) by oc11expo23.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.88) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1365.1; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 11:37:29 -0400 Received: from oc11expo23.exchange.mit.edu ([18.9.4.88]) by oc11expo23.exchange.mit.edu ([18.9.4.88]) with mapi id 15.00.1365.000; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 11:37:29 -0400 From: Thomas Hardjono To: "secdispatch@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Requesting time-slot at IETF109: Blockchain Gateway Interoperability Protocol Thread-Index: AQHWmAit382p3Wx9vEaGOIKDF+uDsA== Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 15:37:29 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [73.167.220.69] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Secdispatch] Requesting time-slot at IETF109: Blockchain Gateway Interoperability Protocol X-BeenThere: secdispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Dispatch List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 15:38:01 -0000 We would like to request a timeslot at the coming IETF109 to present and di= scuss our draft on blockchain gateway interoperability. The architecture draft-00 can be found here: https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-hardjono-blockchain-interop-arch-00.txt The plan is to develop a separate draft on the protocol proper, and possibl= y another draft on use-cases. Best Thomas Hardjono From nobody Tue Oct 6 09:29:05 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: secdispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: secdispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33903A149C for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 09:29:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9qI31aIsvcRz for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 09:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.outgoing.loopia.se (smtp.outgoing.loopia.se [93.188.3.37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 894143A1499 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 09:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s807.loopia.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458E9216109 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 18:28:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s498.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.6]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 269102E2C5BF; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 18:28:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s476.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s498.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AE7489340; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 18:28:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amavis.loopia.se Received: from s499.loopia.se ([172.22.191.6]) by s476.loopia.se (s476.loopia.se [172.22.190.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Uj51Ol6fdaLz; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 18:28:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Loopia-Auth: user X-Loopia-User: mailstore2@aaa-sec.com X-Loopia-Originating-IP: 85.235.7.89 Received: from [192.168.1.217] (gw.aaa-sec.ideon.se [85.235.7.89]) (Authenticated sender: mailstore2@aaa-sec.com) by s499.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2EE1F1CDE8B3; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 18:28:37 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/16.41.20091302 Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2020 18:28:35 +0200 From: Stefan Santesson To: IETF SecDispatch CC: Russ Housley , Francesca Palombini Message-ID: <0ECA202D-EA01-4072-9085-AC5C427C711E@aaa-sec.com> Thread-Topic: Request for agenda item at IETF 109 sec dispatch Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3684853717_1364145312" Archived-At: Subject: [Secdispatch] Request for agenda item at IETF 109 sec dispatch X-BeenThere: secdispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Dispatch List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2020 16:29:04 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3684853717_1364145312 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 At IETF 107 I made a presentation on SVT (Signature Validation Token) at se= c dispatch. =20 At that time the work on SVT was in its early stages and the conclusion of = the dispatch was to start a mailing list to discuss progress and direction. This was never done eventually, but since IETF 107, this work has matured c= onsiderably and resulted in implementation and a successful Proof of Concept= with running code. =20 The function of the SVT and the motivation of the SVT has also evolved. =20 In short: =20 SVT is a token that provides external evidence in support of long term vali= dation of electronic signatures. This is fully comparable with all types of long term validation strategies,= who all need support of external evidence to conclude validity of the signe= r certificate as well as the signature itself. The major contribution of the SVT is that it is reduces the number of exter= nal signed evidences that needs to be relied upon in order to perform succes= sful validation, and thereby greatly reduces complexity of long term validat= ion. Another important contribution of SVT is that it, because of its compactnes= s and simplicity, allows provision of multiple tokens of various strength or= algorithms so that if one algorithm fails, the other may still be secure. =20 A first draft (00) will be authored by me and Russ Housley and will be subm= itted to the IETF, well in time for IETF 109. =20 I and Russ would like to request a timeslot at next sec dispatch to discuss= progression of this draft as IETF standard. =20 =20 Stefan Santesson=20 =C2=A0 --B_3684853717_1364145312 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

At IETF = 107 I made a presentation on SVT (Signature Validation Token) at sec dispatc= h.

 

At that time the work on SVT was i= n its early stages and the conclusion of the dispatch was to start a mailing= list to discuss progress and direction.

This was never done= eventually, but since IETF 107, this work has matured considerably and resu= lted in implementation and a successful Proof of Concept with running code.<= o:p>

 

The function of the SVT and the motiv= ation of the SVT has also evolved.

<= span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> <= /p>

In= short:

 

SVT is a token that provides = external evidence in support of long term validation of electronic signature= s.

This is fully comparable with all types of long term vali= dation strategies, who all need support of external evidence to conclude val= idity of the signer certificate as well as the signature itself.<= /span>

The major contribution of the SVT is that it is reduces the number of e= xternal signed evidences that needs to be relied upon in order to perform su= ccessful validation, and thereby greatly reduces complexity of long term val= idation.

Another important contribution of SVT is that it, b= ecause of its compactness and simplicity, allows provision of multiple token= s of various strength or algorithms so that if one algorithm fails, the othe= r may still be secure.

 

A first draft = (00) will be authored by me and Russ Housley and will be submitted to the IE= TF, well in time for IETF 109.

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>I and = Russ would like to request a timeslot at next sec dispatch to discuss progre= ssion of this draft as IETF standard.

 

 

Stefan Santesson

=C2=A0

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Dear SecDispatch chairs,

We'd like to ask = for a presentation slot at SecDispatch during
IETF109 to talk abo= ut the use of DNS and DANE for IOT security.
We'd cover the f= ollowing set of topics:

* DANE for TLS client authentication. = Some proposed mechanisms
=C2=A0 are described in the following drafts, w= hich were originally
=C2=A0 written a while back, and have recently been= refreshed:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-huque-dane-clie= nt-cert-04
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-huque-tls-d= ane-clientid-02

* The use of DNS & DANE for certificate disc= overy.

* Expanding the scope of DANE to cover the general use c= ase of object
=C2=A0 security (DANE currently offers TLSA for TLS= channel authentication,
=C2=A0 and SMIMEA for object security in= email applications and email like
=C2=A0 identities, so neither = quite fit the bill in their current forms).

Shumon Huque<= /div>
(with some colleagues working in the IOT security space).

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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3686167025_829577493 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit As an update on this request, we just submitted an I-D on the main specification: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-santesson-svt/ Stefan Santesson From: Secdispatch on behalf of Stefan Santesson Date: Tuesday, 6 October 2020 at 18:29 To: IETF SecDispatch Cc: Russ Housley , Francesca Palombini Subject: [Secdispatch] Request for agenda item at IETF 109 sec dispatch Hi, At IETF 107 I made a presentation on SVT (Signature Validation Token) at sec dispatch. At that time the work on SVT was in its early stages and the conclusion of the dispatch was to start a mailing list to discuss progress and direction. This was never done eventually, but since IETF 107, this work has matured considerably and resulted in implementation and a successful Proof of Concept with running code. The function of the SVT and the motivation of the SVT has also evolved. In short: SVT is a token that provides external evidence in support of long term validation of electronic signatures. This is fully comparable with all types of long term validation strategies, who all need support of external evidence to conclude validity of the signer certificate as well as the signature itself. The major contribution of the SVT is that it is reduces the number of external signed evidences that needs to be relied upon in order to perform successful validation, and thereby greatly reduces complexity of long term validation. Another important contribution of SVT is that it, because of its compactness and simplicity, allows provision of multiple tokens of various strength or algorithms so that if one algorithm fails, the other may still be secure. A first draft (00) will be authored by me and Russ Housley and will be submitted to the IETF, well in time for IETF 109. I and Russ would like to request a timeslot at next sec dispatch to discuss progression of this draft as IETF standard. Stefan Santesson _______________________________________________ Secdispatch mailing list Secdispatch@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/secdispatch --B_3686167025_829577493 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

As an update on this request, we just= submitted an I-D on the main specification:

https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/doc/draft-santesson-svt/

 

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Stefan Santesson

 

From: Secdispatch <secdispatch-bounces@ietf.org> on beha= lf of Stefan Santesson <stefan@aaa-sec.com>
Date: Tuesday, 6= October 2020 at 18:29
To: IETF SecDispatch <secdispatch@ietf.o= rg>
Cc: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>, Francesca Pa= lombini <francesca.palombini=3D40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Subj= ect: [Secdispatch] Request for agenda item at IETF 109 sec dispatch=

 

Hi,=

 

At IETF 107 I made a presentation on SVT (Sign= ature Validation Token) at sec dispatch.

 <= /o:p>

At that time the work on SVT was in its early stages and the conclusion = of the dispatch was to start a mailing list to discuss progress and directio= n.

This was never done eventually, but since IETF 107, this = work has matured considerably and resulted in implementation and a successfu= l Proof of Concept with running code.

 

The function of the SVT and the motivation of the SVT has also evolved.

 

In short:

 <= o:p>

SVT is a token that provides external evidence in support of long t= erm validation of electronic signatures.

This is fully compa= rable with all types of long term validation strategies, who all need suppor= t of external evidence to conclude validity of the signer certificate as wel= l as the signature itself.

The major contribution of the SVT= is that it is reduces the number of external signed evidences that needs to= be relied upon in order to perform successful validation, and thereby great= ly reduces complexity of long term validation.

Another impor= tant contribution of SVT is that it, because of its compactness and simplici= ty, allows provision of multiple tokens of various strength or algorithms so= that if one algorithm fails, the other may still be secure.

 

A first draft (00) will be authored by me and Russ H= ousley and will be submitted to the IETF, well in time for IETF 109.<= o:p>

 

I and Russ would like to request a timeslot = at next sec dispatch to discuss progression of this draft as IETF standard.<= /span>

 

 

Stefan Santesson =

 

__= _____________________________________________ Secdispatch mailing list Secdi= spatch@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/secdispatch

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boundary="B_3686835872_1821568023" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] Request for agenda item at IETF 109 sec dispatch X-BeenThere: secdispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Security Dispatch List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 16:04:43 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3686835872_1821568023 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Yet one more update on this requested agenda item for next IETF meeting is that we have now submitted 2 more drafts, the XML and PDF profiles of the main specification. We have also created a Github repo where all information about the current draft development is available: https://github.com/swedenconnect/IETF-SVT This page also includes information about available open source as well as reference implementation. Stefan Santesson From: Secdispatch on behalf of Stefan Santesson Date: Wednesday, 21 October 2020 at 23:17 To: IETF SecDispatch Cc: Russ Housley , Francesca Palombini Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] Request for agenda item at IETF 109 sec dispatch As an update on this request, we just submitted an I-D on the main specification: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-santesson-svt/ Stefan Santesson From: Secdispatch on behalf of Stefan Santesson Date: Tuesday, 6 October 2020 at 18:29 To: IETF SecDispatch Cc: Russ Housley , Francesca Palombini Subject: [Secdispatch] Request for agenda item at IETF 109 sec dispatch Hi, At IETF 107 I made a presentation on SVT (Signature Validation Token) at sec dispatch. At that time the work on SVT was in its early stages and the conclusion of the dispatch was to start a mailing list to discuss progress and direction. This was never done eventually, but since IETF 107, this work has matured considerably and resulted in implementation and a successful Proof of Concept with running code. The function of the SVT and the motivation of the SVT has also evolved. In short: SVT is a token that provides external evidence in support of long term validation of electronic signatures. This is fully comparable with all types of long term validation strategies, who all need support of external evidence to conclude validity of the signer certificate as well as the signature itself. The major contribution of the SVT is that it is reduces the number of external signed evidences that needs to be relied upon in order to perform successful validation, and thereby greatly reduces complexity of long term validation. Another important contribution of SVT is that it, because of its compactness and simplicity, allows provision of multiple tokens of various strength or algorithms so that if one algorithm fails, the other may still be secure. A first draft (00) will be authored by me and Russ Housley and will be submitted to the IETF, well in time for IETF 109. I and Russ would like to request a timeslot at next sec dispatch to discuss progression of this draft as IETF standard. Stefan Santesson _______________________________________________ Secdispatch mailing list Secdispatch@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/secdispatch _______________________________________________ Secdispatch mailing list Secdispatch@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/secdispatch --B_3686835872_1821568023 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Yet one more update on this requested ag= enda item for next IETF meeting is that we have now submitted 2 more drafts,= the XML and PDF profiles of the main specification.

&n= bsp;

We have also created a Github repo where all information abo= ut the current draft development is available: https://github.com/swedenconnect/IETF-SVT

This page also includes information about available open source as = well as reference implementation.

 

 

Stefan Santesson

 

From: Secdispatch <secdispatch-bounces@ietf.org> on b= ehalf of Stefan Santesson <stefan@aaa-sec.com>
Date: Wednesd= ay, 21 October 2020 at 23:17
To: IETF SecDispatch <secdispatch@= ietf.org>
Cc: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>, France= sca Palombini <francesca.palombini=3D40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
<= b>Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] Request for agenda item at IETF 109 sec dis= patch

 

As an update on this request, we just submitted an I-D on the main specif= ication:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-santesson-svt/

 

 

Stefan Santesson <= /span>

 

From: Secdispatch <secdispatch-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of St= efan Santesson <stefan@aaa-sec.com>
Date: Tuesday, 6 October= 2020 at 18:29
To: IETF SecDispatch <secdispatch@ietf.org>Cc: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>, Francesca Palombini = <francesca.palombini=3D40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Subject: [Secdispatch] Request for agenda item at IETF 109 sec dispatch<= /o:p>

 

Hi,

&= nbsp;

At IETF 107 I made a presentation on SVT (Signature Va= lidation Token) at sec dispatch.

 

At t= hat time the work on SVT was in its early stages and the conclusion of the d= ispatch was to start a mailing list to discuss progress and direction.

This was never done eventually, but since IETF 107, this work has= matured considerably and resulted in implementation and a successful Proof = of Concept with running code.

 

The fun= ction of the SVT and the motivation of the SVT has also evolved.=

 

In short:

 

SVT is a token that provides external evidence in support of long term vali= dation of electronic signatures.

This is fully comparable wi= th all types of long term validation strategies, who all need support of ext= ernal evidence to conclude validity of the signer certificate as well as the= signature itself.

The major contribution of the SVT is that= it is reduces the number of external signed evidences that needs to be reli= ed upon in order to perform successful validation, and thereby greatly reduc= es complexity of long term validation.

Another important con= tribution of SVT is that it, because of its compactness and simplicity, allo= ws provision of multiple tokens of various strength or algorithms so that if= one algorithm fails, the other may still be secure.

 <= /span>

A first draft (00) will be authored by me and Russ Housley a= nd will be submitted to the IETF, well in time for IETF 109.

 

I and Russ would like to request a timeslot at next = sec dispatch to discuss progression of this draft as IETF standard.

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Stefan Santesson

 

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