Subject: RE: [Speechsc] FW: Liaison statement from IETF SPEECHSC WG to W3C Multimedia Interaction WG

From: "Reifenrath, Klaus" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 07:29:52 -0400

Hi Eric,

what are the next steps? As you pointed out, the published NLSML is only
close to what we use in MRCP today (even closer is the unpublished version
of NLSML that is referenced in the current spec, which contains DTD and XML
Schema), but the differences are not documented.

Will you come up with a first version of "MRCP-NLSML" (for ASR and SV
results) that can be reviewed by the group or are you waiting for a
volunteer to do that?

Klaus 

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Burger [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Mittwoch, 29. September 2004 22:55
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Speechsc] FW: Liaison statement from IETF SPEECHSC WG to W3C
Multimedia Int eraction WG

Formal response from W3C.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deborah Dahl [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 4:15 PM
> To: 'Leslie Daigle'; 'Dave Raggett Dave Raggett'
> Cc: 'Eric Burger'; 'Dave Oran'; 'Allison Mankin'; 'Peterson, Jon';
> [email-masked]; Martin Duerst; Max Froumentin; Philipp 
> Hoschka; Wu
> Chou; [email-masked]
> Subject: RE: Liaison statement from IETF SPEECHSC WG to W3C Multimedia
> Interaction WG
> 
> 
> Leslie,
> Thank you for the liason statement and for your interest in EMMA.
> We have just published the third Working Draft of EMMA. Our
> current plan is to publish a Last Call Working Draft in December,
> and a Candidate Recommendation in June, 2005. We would be very
> grateful for any comments or feedback you might have on the 
> current Working
> Draft (http://www.w3.org/TR/emma/). This kind of feedback 
> should be very 
> useful in both helping us progress EMMA through the W3C Recommendation
> process,
> as well as in insuring that it becomes a useful and accepted 
> standard which
> meets the requirements of the speech processing industry. The 
> overlapping
> membership between the W3C Multimodal Interaction Working Group and
> the MRCPv2 group should be helpful in facilitating 
> communication across
> groups.
> 
> Although NLSML had only reached a 1st WD status, it
> has nonetheless proved a useful interim specification. We
> hope that MRCPv2 can be revised to normatively reference
> EMMA in preference to NLSML once EMMA reaches Candidate 
> Recommendation.
> 
> Note that the W3C and the IETF have a formal liason process, so I
> am copying Martin Duerst, who is responsible for this liason on the
> W3C side, on this message. I am also copying Wu Chao and Michael
> Johnston, the primary editors of EMMA.
> 
> Best wishes on your work with MRCPv2, and looking forward to 
> continued interaction with your group.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Debbie Dahl
> Chair, W3C Multimodal Interaction Working Group
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leslie Daigle [mailto:[email-masked]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 3:55 PM
> > To: Deborah Dahl Deborah Dahl; Dave Raggett Dave Raggett
> > Cc: Eric Burger; Dave Oran; Allison Mankin; Peterson, Jon; 
> > [email-masked]
> > Subject: Liaison statement from IETF SPEECHSC WG to W3C 
> > Multimedia Interaction WG
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Please find below a liaison statement from the IETF SPEECHSC working
> > group to the W3C Multimedia Interaction work group.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Leslie Daigle,
> > IETF liaison to the W3C.
> > 
> > ==========
> > 
> > 
> > Title: SPEECHSC Requirements for W3C MMI Standards
> > Source: IETF SPEECHSC Work Group
> > To: W3C Multimedia Interaction Work Group
> > 
> > Contact Persons:
> > Name:        Eric Burger
> > Tel. Number: +1 603 890 7587
> > E-Mail:      [email-masked]
> > Name:        Dave Oran
> > Tel. Number: +1 978 264 2048
> > E-Mail:      [email-masked]
> > 
> > 
> > 1. Overall Description:
> > The speechsc Work Group is tasked with developing protocols 
> to support
> > distributed media processing of audio streams.  The focus of 
> > this working
> > group is to develop protocols to support ASR, TTS, and SV.  
> > The working
> > group will only focus on the secure distributed control of 
> > these servers.
> > 
> > The full description of the SPEECSC Charter, including documents and
> > milestones, can be found here:
> > http://ietf.org/html.charters/speechsc-charter.html
> > 
> > A supplemental work group web page can be found here:
> > http://flyingfox.snowshore.com/i-d/speechsc
> > 
> > 
> > 2. Background to Request
> > The consensus of the SPEECHSC work group is that EMMA is 
> the preferred
> > encoding for speech recognition results for MRCPv2 transport.
> > 
> > It is our plan to require MRCPv2-conforming protocol 
> > endpoints to support
> > EMMA (currently referenced at <http://www.w3.org/TR/emma/>).  
> > This will
> > occur once EMMA reaches Candidate Recommendation status.  
> > However, it is our
> > understanding that this will not happen until mid-2005.
> > 
> > Because there is a demand for MRCPv2 today, we need a 
> > normative reference to
> > a recognition markup.  The consensus of the SPEECHSC work 
> > group is that
> > NLSML (currently referenced at 
> > <http://www.w3.org/TR/nl-spec/>) is closest
> > to our needs.  However, there is no normative (Candidate 
> > Recommendation or
> > later) for NLSML.
> > 
> > Until the W3C publishes EMMA as a Candidate Recommendation, 
> > MRCPv2 endpoints
> > will be required to support a different markup.  However, 
> once EMMA is
> > published, it will be the default, required markup for 
> > returning recognition
> > results.  This markup will not be called NLSML.
> > 
> > MRCPv2 will include a negotiation mechanism such that 
> > follow-on markups to
> > EMMA will be automatically supported by the protocol.
> > 
> > 
> > 3. Requests to W3C:
> > A) Please keep us informed to the progress of EMMA.
> > B) Please progress EMMA to Candidate Recommendation as fast 
> > as possible.
> > C) It is our intention to reference the NLSML specification, 
> > per the W3C
> > copyright rules specified in the NLSML specification, found at
> > <http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/copyright-documents-19990405>
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > "Reality:
> >       Yours to discover."
> >                                  -- ThinkingCat
> > Leslie Daigle
> > [email-masked]
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> 
> 

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