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boundary="_000_AM0PR03MB38286EFCFC0357EDB1D782679D770AM0PR03MB3828eurp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: ecitele.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: f46cff3f-6976-457d-f2ba-08d69f3883a2 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 02 Mar 2019 17:57:19.3051 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 2c514a61-08de-4519-b4c0-921fef62c42a X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM0PR03MB3635 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2019 17:57:37 -0000 --_000_AM0PR03MB38286EFCFC0357EDB1D782679D770AM0PR03MB3828eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter, Lots of thanks for a prompt and hivhly informative response. It seems that per-FlexAlgo Adj-SIDs can be useful even if they are local. The relevant use case could be a protected local Adj-SID that is used in a= SR-TE LSP that has been set up with some constraints in mind. These const= raints would be preserved when the protected adjacency in question is UP, = but could be violated when it fails and the shortest path to the node at t= he remote end of adjacency is used. Local protected Adj-SIDs for sure have bern implemented, so this looks lik= e a more relevant use case than global adjacencies to me. What do you think? Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, Thumb typed by Sasha Vainshtein ________________________________ From: Peter Psenak Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:56:49 PM To: Alexander Vainshtein; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions@ietf.= org Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs Hi Alexander, On 28/02/2019 19:19 , Alexander Vainshtein wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > I have a question regarding global Adj-SIDs in > draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions. > > > > Section 3.4 of RFC 8402 defines > definition and handling of global Adj-SIDs. > > The relevant text is given below: > > > > > > Similarly, when using a global Adj-SID, a packet injected anywhere > > within the SR domain with a segment list {SNL}, where SNL is a global= > > Adj-SID attached by node N to its adjacency over link L, will be > > forwarded along the shortest path to Nand then be switched by N, > > without any IP shortest-path consideration, towards link L. > > ... > > The use of global Adj-SID allows to reduce the size of the segment li= st > > When expressing a path at the cost of additional state (i.e., the glo= bal > > Adj-SID will be inserted by all routers within the area in their > > forwarding table). > > > > > > The definition of the Adjacency Segment Identifier=20Sub-TLV in Section > 2.2.1 of the draft matches the behavior defined in RFC 8402, i.e., it > allows advertisement of global Adj-SIDs. > > These advertisements can be associated with a specific IGP adjacency > and, in multi-topology scenarios, a specific topology. But it is not > associated with any specific algorithm since the default algorithm for > reaching the advertising node is implicitly assumed in full alignment > with RFC 8402. > > > > My question is about the situation in which multiple algorithms are > supported by the routers in the SR domain, so that each node advertises > a dedicated Node SID for each of these algorithm. > > In this scenario, the operator can set up a SR-TE LSP that meets > specific constraints (incorporated in one of these algorithms, see IGP > Flexible Algorithm > draft) by > using Node SIDs that have been advertised with the corresponding > algorithm and local Adj-SIDs. However, global Adj-SIDs cannot be used > (e.g.,=20for reducing the label stack depth) in this situation. > > I wonder if the possibility to advertise global Adj-SID (that can be > considered as replacing a combination of the Node SID of the advertising= > node and one of its local Adj-SIDs) as associated with a specific > algorithm has ever been considered? to be honest, it has been not. The usage of the global Adj-SID has not been widely considered due to the additional forwarding entries it requires on rest of the routers in the area. Not sure if there are implementations of the global ADj-SID out there. If you believe this is important, we can certainly addressed that in a small draft. thanks, Peter > > > > Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, > > Sasha > > > > Office: +972-39266302 > > Cell: +972-549266302 > > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________= ___ > > This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains > information which is > CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. 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Peter,
Lots of thanks for a prompt and hivhly informative response.

It seems that per-FlexAlgo Adj-SIDs can be useful even if they are local.<= br>
The relevant use case could be a protected local Adj-SID that is used in a= SR-TE LSP that has been set up with some constraints in mind. These const= raints would be preserved when the protected adjacency in question is UP, = but could be violated when it fails and the shortest path to the node at the remote end of adjacency is used.=

Local protected Adj-SIDs for sure have bern implemented, so this looks lik= e a more relevant use case than global adjacencies to me.

What do you think?

Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,

Thumb typed by Sasha Vainshtein

From: Peter Psenak <= ppsenak@cisco.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:56:49 PM
To: Alexander Vainshtein; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extension= s@ietf.org
Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs
 
Hi Alexander,

On 28/02/2019 19:19 , Alexander Vainshtein wrote:
> Dear colleagues,
>
> I have a question regarding global Adj-SIDs in
> draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions.
>
>
>
> Section 3.4 of RFC 8402 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8402>  defines
> definition and handling of global Adj-SIDs.
>
> The relevant text is given below:
>
>
>
> <quote>
>
>    Similarly, when using a global Adj-SID, a packet in= jected anywhere
>
>    within the SR domain with a segment list {SNL}, whe= re SNL is a global
>
>    Adj-SID attached by node N to its adjacency over li= nk L, will be
>
>    forwarded along the shortest path to Nand then be s= witched by N,
>
>    without any IP shortest-path consideration, towards= link L.
>
> ...
>
>    The use of global Adj-SID allows to reduce the size= of the segment list
>
>    When expressing a path at the cost of additional st= ate (i.e., the global
>
>    Adj-SID will be inserted by all routers within the = area in their
>
>    forwarding table).
>
> <end quote>
>
>
>
> The definition of the Adjacency Segment Identifier Sub-TLV in Section=
> 2.2.1 of the draft matches the behavior defined in RFC 8402, i.e., it=
> allows advertisement of global Adj-SIDs.
>
> These advertisements can be associated with a specific IGP adjacency<= br> > and, in multi-topology scenarios, a specific topology. But it is not<= br> > associated with any specific algorithm since the default algorithm fo= r
> reaching the advertising node is implicitly assumed in full alignment=
> with RFC 8402.
>
>
>
> My question is about the situation in which multiple algorithms are > supported by the routers in the SR domain, so that each node advertis= es
> a dedicated Node SID for each of these algorithm.
>
> In this scenario, the operator can set up a SR-TE LSP that meets
> specific constraints (incorporated in one of these algorithms, see IG= P
> Flexible Algorithm
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-01> draft) = by
> using Node SIDs that have been advertised with the corresponding
> algorithm and local Adj-SIDs. However, global Adj-SIDs cannot be used=
> (e.g., for reducing the label stack depth) in this situation.
>
> I wonder if the possibility to advertise global Adj-SID (that can be<= br> > considered as replacing a combination of the Node SID of the advertis= ing
> node and one of its local Adj-SIDs) as associated with a specific
= > algorithm has ever been considered?

to be honest, it has been not.

The usage of the global Adj-SID has not been widely considered due to
= the additional forwarding entries it requires on rest of the routers in the area. Not sure if there are implementations of the global ADj-SID
= out there.

If you believe this is important, we can certainly addressed that in a small draft.

thanks,
Peter




>
>
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--_000_AM0PR03MB38286EFCFC0357EDB1D782679D770AM0PR03MB3828eurp_-- From nobody Sun Mar 3 02:31:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA97129619 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2019 02:31:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y1vsNBMAM1-U for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2019 02:30:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from aer-iport-2.cisco.com (aer-iport-2.cisco.com [173.38.203.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FC59129508 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2019 02:30:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2685; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1551609059; x=1552818659; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date: mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nDJC1IL3PGALZqeR6t71JC1M2K1IG+dqAo9Fp6g7kCU=; b=dfX0XrgAz2sv/2fRG2cOabkmHGttmkz9Ye1C9A2gHn/d67G5zuj1cnt1 kgiAzNvR4FTXjSxl+JqGS7u5TUEyrPT/C17qMp0un8RNoDCjKDRImEZDx ZfPzQfcG9joti9MUiBTeAicxGy4Uev7VRPeDdTQctypEJPj3m9BMq7K3r Q=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.58,435,1544486400"; d="scan'208";a="10511374" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-1.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 03 Mar 2019 10:30:57 +0000 Received: from [10.61.106.238] (dhcp-10-61-106-238.cisco.com [10.61.106.238]) (authenticated bits=0) by aer-core-1.cisco.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x23AUuil023946 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Mar 2019 10:30:57 GMT To: "spring@ietf.org" Cc: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" , Matsushima Satoru References: <808167FE-26AA-4262-A283-73554B7192A2@cisco.com> <5A5B4DE12C0DAC44AF501CD9A2B01A8D8F54EB4A@DGGEMM532-MBX.china.huawei.com> From: "Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil)" Message-ID: <35f9576a-3194-14dd-0d95-f2327fed42d2@cisco.com> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2019 11:30:56 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5A5B4DE12C0DAC44AF501CD9A2B01A8D8F54EB4A@DGGEMM532-MBX.china.huawei.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: cfilsfil X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 10.61.106.238, dhcp-10-61-106-238.cisco.com X-Outbound-Node: aer-core-1.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2019 10:31:01 -0000 Dear Spring, Softbank and Cisco have announced the deployment of SRv6: https://newsroom.cisco.com/press-release-content?type=webcontent&articleId=1969030 Another deployment is ongoing and several others are in preparation. All these design and deployments extensively leverage the mature content of the SRv6 network programmability document and its various implementations: . Cisco: 4 different hardware and 3 OS . Linux: Kernal and srext module . FD.io: VPP . Apps: Snort, Wireshark, tcpdump, iptables and nftables . Other vendor as previously reported on the list Multiple interoperable verifications took place. The maturity of the draft since March 2017 coupled with the large number of implementations, their interoperability and their concrete deployment on several networks indicate that the drafts are ready for adoption by the working group. Cheers, Clarence Filsfils On 01-03-19 04:30, Lizhenbin wrote: > SRv6 network programming is an important work for the network evolution. > After refining many times the draft is already stable. > > Besides the implementation and inter-op test info proposed, this week it > was published that there was already the commercial deployment of SRv6. > > Hope the draft can be adopted by the working group as the co-author. > > Best Regards, > > Zhenbin (Robin) > > *From:*spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Pablo > Camarillo (pcamaril) > *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2019 4:56 PM > *To:* spring@ietf.org > *Subject:* [spring] draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming > > Dear Spring, > > We have submitted a new revision of > draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. There are several minor > updates to the document, mainly addressing ICMP and having better > alignment with SRH draft. Also, based on WG feedback, we have split the > document moving the illustrations into a new informational draft. > > As always, any feedback or question is more than welcome. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming/ > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-net-pgm-illustration/ > > We believe that the content of both drafts is mature and has been stable > since the first revision in March 2017. We are tracking several > opensource and vendor proprietary implementations. Some of these have > actually participated in a public interop more than a year ago. > > For these reasons we believe that both documents are ready to progress > and be adopted by the working group. > > Thanks, > > Pablo (on behalf of authors&contributors) > From nobody Sun Mar 3 06:17:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610DC12D4F3; Sun, 3 Mar 2019 06:17:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com 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--_000_0A415208C4F54DA782C547E4C6A8E996ciscocom_-- From nobody Mon Mar 4 00:44:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15E1131036; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 00:44:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VvgtP8TKUqlP; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 00:44:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from cmccmta1.chinamobile.com (cmccmta1.chinamobile.com [221.176.66.79]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281361200D7; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 00:44:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from spf.mail.chinamobile.com (unknown[172.16.121.17]) by 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AdTI+aHnu6PjEJCrTUS5JlToWqMmlgJbGU1Q Content-Language: zh-cn Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPR Poll for draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2019 08:44:21 -0000 Dear Chairs and Group, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this document. 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([2400:2411:8900:0:495d:83d4:f8db:2b17]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p14sm10182778pgn.34.2019.03.04.01.53.27 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Mar 2019 01:53:28 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) From: Satoru Matsushima In-Reply-To: <35f9576a-3194-14dd-0d95-f2327fed42d2@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 18:53:25 +0900 Cc: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" , =?utf-8?B?5p2+5baL6IGh?= , "Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2CC866A5-D180-4A22-9699-9DA639C1E02B@gmail.com> References: <808167FE-26AA-4262-A283-73554B7192A2@cisco.com> <5A5B4DE12C0DAC44AF501CD9A2B01A8D8F54EB4A@DGGEMM532-MBX.china.huawei.com> <35f9576a-3194-14dd-0d95-f2327fed42d2@cisco.com> To: "spring@ietf.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2019 09:53:34 -0000 Hi Spring,=20 It=E2=80=99s my pleasure that we can finally announce our successful = SRv6 deployment. I think that the experience and knowledge from the = project contributed to the maturity of SRv6 network programming I-D. I hope that it helps the I-D to be adopted as a WG doc, and it also = contributes to progress the discussion in Spring.=20 Best regards, --satoru > 2019/03/03 19:30=E3=80=81Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil) = =E3=81=AE=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB: >=20 > Dear Spring, >=20 > Softbank and Cisco have announced the deployment of SRv6: >=20 > = https://newsroom.cisco.com/press-release-content?type=3Dwebcontent&article= Id=3D1969030 >=20 > Another deployment is ongoing and several others are in preparation. >=20 > All these design and deployments extensively leverage the mature = content of the SRv6 network programmability document and its various = implementations: >=20 > .. Cisco: 4 different hardware and 3 OS > .. Linux: Kernal and srext module > .. FD.io: VPP > .. Apps: Snort, Wireshark, tcpdump, iptables and nftables > .. Other vendor as previously reported on the list >=20 > Multiple interoperable verifications took place. >=20 > The maturity of the draft since March 2017 coupled with the large = number of implementations, their interoperability and their concrete = deployment on several networks indicate that the drafts are ready for = adoption by the working group. >=20 > Cheers, > Clarence Filsfils >=20 >=20 > On 01-03-19 04:30, Lizhenbin wrote: >> SRv6 network programming is an important work for the network = evolution. After refining many times the draft is already stable. >> Besides the implementation and inter-op test info proposed, this week = it was published that there was already the commercial deployment of = SRv6. >> Hope the draft can be adopted by the working group as the co-author. >> Best Regards, >> Zhenbin (Robin) >> *From:*spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Pablo = Camarillo (pcamaril) >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2019 4:56 PM >> *To:* spring@ietf.org >> *Subject:* [spring] draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming >> Dear Spring, >> We have submitted a new revision of = draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. There are several minor = updates to the document, mainly addressing ICMP and having better = alignment with SRH draft. Also, based on WG feedback, we have split the = document moving the illustrations into a new informational draft. >> As always, any feedback or question is more than welcome. >> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-progra= mming/ >> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-net-pgm-illust= ration/ >> We believe that the content of both drafts is mature and has been = stable since the first revision in March 2017. We are tracking several = opensource and vendor proprietary implementations. Some of these have = actually participated in a public interop more than a year ago. >> For these reasons we believe that both documents are ready to = progress and be adopted by the working group. >> Thanks, >> Pablo (on behalf of authors&contributors) >=20 > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring From nobody Mon Mar 4 05:01:01 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D141310D3 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 05:00:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S1omAtbWCtd4 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 05:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EC0D130FFB for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 05:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.255.254.3] (unknown [37.46.121.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 63FDC180157E; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 14:00:54 +0100 (CET) To: Satoru Matsushima , "spring@ietf.org" Cc: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" , "Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil)" , =?UTF-8?B?5p2+5baL6IGh?= References: <808167FE-26AA-4262-A283-73554B7192A2@cisco.com> <5A5B4DE12C0DAC44AF501CD9A2B01A8D8F54EB4A@DGGEMM532-MBX.china.huawei.com> <35f9576a-3194-14dd-0d95-f2327fed42d2@cisco.com> <2CC866A5-D180-4A22-9699-9DA639C1E02B@gmail.com> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <17bab95d-908b-1ef3-1c21-7120fe5cef3a@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 21:00:51 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2CC866A5-D180-4A22-9699-9DA639C1E02B@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2019 13:01:00 -0000 Satoru and Clarence, The news of successful deployment of SRv6 is encouraging, a good step for both V6 and SR. Congrat's! Since this was announced in a mail indicating draft-filsfils-spring- srv6-network-programming, I took a look at the draft itself, in particular the IANA section. A few questions on on the the new sub-registry. The registration procedure (apart from a typo in the header) are listed like this. 1. Do we really need +-------------+---------------+--------------------+----------------+ | Range | Hex | Registration | Notes | | | | proceadure | | +-------------+---------------+--------------------+----------------+ | 0 | 0x0000 | Reserved | Invalid | | 1-32767 | 0x0001-0x7FFF | IETF review | Draft | | | | | Specifications | | 32768-49151 | 0x8000-0xBFFF | Reserved for | | | | | experimental use | | | 49152-65534 | 0xC000-0xFFFE | Reserved for | | | | | private use | | | 65535 | 0xFFFF | Reserved | Opaque | +-------------+---------------+--------------------+----------------+ 1. Do we really need 16k code points for experimental use? 2. Do we really need 16k code points for private use? - experimental use and private use are quite similar, it seems to be overkill to allocate 32k code points for very similar purposes 3. IETF review is intended for RFCs, RFC 8126 says: "4.8. IETF Review (Formerly called "IETF Consensus" in the first edition of this document.) With the IETF Review policy, new values are assigned only through RFCs in the IETF Stream -- those that have been shepherded through the IESG as AD-Sponsored or IETF working group documents [RFC2026] [RFC5378], have gone through IETF Last Call, and have been approved by the IESG as having IETF consensus. The intent is that the document and proposed assignment will be reviewed by the IETF community (including appropriate IETF working groups, directorates, and other experts) and by the IESG, to ensure that the proposed assignment will not negatively affect interoperability or otherwise extend IETF protocols in an inappropriate or damaging manner. Unless otherwise specified, any type of RFC is sufficient (currently Standards Track, BCP, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)." It seems like this document is, in this context, to add IDs to this set of documents. Since IETF review means IESG review, I don't see that happen unless you are prepared to go ahead and publish an RFC. It would be possible to describe a new registration procedure called "Draft Specifications", but there is no such description in the document. It should be carefully described, it is not clear if any ID (e.g. Individual) sufficient or if this for wg documents only. 4. For what does "Opaque" for the Reserved value (65535) mean? /Loa On 2019-03-04 17:53, Satoru Matsushima wrote: > Hi Spring, > > It’s my pleasure that we can finally announce our successful SRv6 deployment. I think that the experience and knowledge from the project contributed to the maturity of SRv6 network programming I-D. > > I hope that it helps the I-D to be adopted as a WG doc, and it also contributes to progress the discussion in Spring. > > Best regards, > --satoru > > >> 2019/03/03 19:30、Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil) のメール: >> >> Dear Spring, >> >> Softbank and Cisco have announced the deployment of SRv6: >> >> https://newsroom.cisco.com/press-release-content?type=webcontent&articleId=1969030 >> >> Another deployment is ongoing and several others are in preparation. >> >> All these design and deployments extensively leverage the mature content of the SRv6 network programmability document and its various implementations: >> >> .. Cisco: 4 different hardware and 3 OS >> .. Linux: Kernal and srext module >> .. FD.io: VPP >> .. Apps: Snort, Wireshark, tcpdump, iptables and nftables >> .. Other vendor as previously reported on the list >> >> Multiple interoperable verifications took place. >> >> The maturity of the draft since March 2017 coupled with the large number of implementations, their interoperability and their concrete deployment on several networks indicate that the drafts are ready for adoption by the working group. >> >> Cheers, >> Clarence Filsfils >> >> >> On 01-03-19 04:30, Lizhenbin wrote: >>> SRv6 network programming is an important work for the network evolution. After refining many times the draft is already stable. >>> Besides the implementation and inter-op test info proposed, this week it was published that there was already the commercial deployment of SRv6. >>> Hope the draft can be adopted by the working group as the co-author. >>> Best Regards, >>> Zhenbin (Robin) >>> *From:*spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2019 4:56 PM >>> *To:* spring@ietf.org >>> *Subject:* [spring] draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming >>> Dear Spring, >>> We have submitted a new revision of draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. There are several minor updates to the document, mainly addressing ICMP and having better alignment with SRH draft. Also, based on WG feedback, we have split the document moving the illustrations into a new informational draft. >>> As always, any feedback or question is more than welcome. >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming/ >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-net-pgm-illustration/ >>> We believe that the content of both drafts is mature and has been stable since the first revision in March 2017. We are tracking several opensource and vendor proprietary implementations. Some of these have actually participated in a public interop more than a year ago. >>> For these reasons we believe that both documents are ready to progress and be adopted by the working group. >>> Thanks, >>> Pablo (on behalf of authors&contributors) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> spring mailing list >> spring@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Mon Mar 4 08:55:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BD11295EC; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 08:55:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oC1hOPzascDM; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 08:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from orange.com (mta240.mail.business.static.orange.com [80.12.66.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F40D1228B7; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 08:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from opfedar06.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.8]) by opfedar24.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 44CmNd09Tbz5wNr; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 17:55:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme6.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.13.48]) by opfedar06.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 44CmNc6YMZz3wbN; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 17:55:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::b846:2467:1591:5d9d]) by OPEXCAUBM32.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::81c9:5f:b9c5:1241%21]) with mapi id 14.03.0435.000; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 17:55:11 +0100 From: To: SPRING WG CC: "spring-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IETF 104 - SPRING meeting Thread-Index: AdTSqhk24exiZ+23QbuJduuz+vEk/Q== Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 16:55:12 +0000 Message-ID: <916_1551718512_5C7D5870_916_83_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A489F2C58@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.114.13.247] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [spring] IETF 104 - SPRING meeting X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2019 16:55:17 -0000 Hi WG, For IETF 104, the SPRING WG is currently scheduled to meet Thursday, March = 28, 13:50-15:50. We have a two hours session. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/agenda.html It is time to start building the SPRING WG agenda. Please send to chairs your request for a presentation slot, indicating draf= t name, speaker, and desired duration (covering presentation and discussion= ), before Monday 2019-03-11 COB. Before is better. If it is the first presentation of a non-WG draft, please first introduce y= our draft on the mailing list. Otherwise, please give a reason why it is required to have a new presentati= on slot. A checklist is available on the wiki: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/spring/wik= i/Checklist%20for%20presenting%20at%20a%20SPRING%20meeting Please send your slides before Tuesday, March 26, 13:00 local time. Earlier= is better. 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Ericsson=E2=80=99s IPR department has assessed the applicability of the I= PR filled to the draft and is in process of filing the IPR declaration, t= hat should be published ASAP. This should clarify. Cheers, Jeff > > -----Original Message----- > =46rom: spring =5Bmailto:spring-bounces=40ietf.org=5D On Behalf Of brun= o.decraene=40orange.com > Sent: Wednesday, =46ebruary 20, 2019 5:02 PM > To: SPRING WG ; Jeff Tantsura ; draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment=40ietf.org > Subject: =5Bspring=5D IPR Poll for draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment= > > Hi Jeff, authors, SPRING WG, > > In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-s= egment (1), we would like to poll for IPR. > > If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-se= gment please respond to this email. > If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed = in accordance with IET=46 IPR rules (R=46Cs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 pro= vide more details). > > If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email rega= rdless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR. > If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond only= if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed. > > During IET=46 103, Jeff said that Ericsson owns an IPR on this. Jeff, d= o you want to provide more details on this=3F Do you want to fill a third= party IPR disclosure=3F > > This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confirm= ations have been received from all authors and contributors. > > Thanks, > > (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment > > --Bruno & Rob. > > > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations conf= identielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploit= es ou copies sans autorisation. 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Bruno/SPRING,

Short update.
Ericsson=E2=80=99s IPR department has assessed the applicability of = the IPR filled to the draft and is in process of filing the IPR declarati= on, that should be published ASAP.

This should clarify.&=23160;

Cheers,
Jeff

-----Original Message-----
=46rom: spring =5Bmailto:spring-bounces=40ietf.org=5D On Behalf Of bruno.= decraene=40orange.com
Sent: Wednesday, =46ebruary 20, 2019 5:02 PM
To: SPRING WG <spring=40ietf.org>; Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf=40= gmail.com>; draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment=40ietf.org
Subject: =5Bspring=5D IPR Poll for draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment
Hi Jeff, authors, SPRING WG,

In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-seg= ment (1), we would like to poll for IPR.

If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segm= ent please respond to this email.
If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed in= accordance with IET=46 IPR rules (R=46Cs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provi= de more details).

If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email regard= less of whether or not you're aware of any IPR.
If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond only i= f you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed.

During IET=46 103, Jeff said that Ericsson owns an IPR on this. Jeff, do = you want to provide more details on this=3F Do you want to fill a third p= arty IPR disclosure=3F

This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confirmat= ions have been received from all authors and contributors.

Thanks,

(1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment

--Bruno & Rob.


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Mon, 04 Mar 2019 15:56:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.20.2.89] ([70.35.39.2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o76sm13299149pfa.156.2019.03.04.15.56.54 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Mar 2019 15:56:54 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Gaurav Dawra X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16C101) In-Reply-To: <9AACC47B-942A-4A10-AB89-CC757EC988A2@bell.ca> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 15:56:50 -0800 Cc: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "ietf@ietf.org" , "martin.vigoureux@nokia.com" , "draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls@ietf.org" , "spring@ietf.org" , "spring-chairs@ietf.org" , "shraddha@juniper.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5067A0D6-BA94-4FCD-8122-B26F325D9A09@gmail.com> References: <155077450563.18620.1730285391843881930.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <049c01d4ce19$1c2fdcb0$548f9610$@olddog.co.uk> <9AACC47B-942A-4A10-AB89-CC757EC988A2@bell.ca> To: "Bernier, Daniel" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] Last Call: (Segment Routing with MPLS data plane) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2019 23:57:00 -0000 +1=20 Gaurav Dawra Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 28, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Bernier, Daniel wrot= e: >=20 > +1 >=20 > Dan B >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn 2019-02-26, 4:20 PM, "spring on behalf of Adrian Farrel" wrote: >=20 > This draft has been around the block a bit, but certainly needs to prog= ress > because a lot of other things are dependent on it. >=20 > Fortunately after plenty of review and updates (thanks to the authors),= I > think it is now ready to become an RFC. >=20 > Adrian >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: spring On Behalf Of The IESG > Sent: 21 February 2019 18:42 > To: IETF-Announce > Cc: martin.vigoureux@nokia.com; > draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; > spring-chairs@ietf.org; shraddha@juniper.net > Subject: [spring] Last Call: > (Segment Routing with MPLS data plane) to Proposed Standard >=20 >=20 > The IESG has received a request from the Source Packet Routing in Netwo= rking > WG (spring) to consider the following document: - 'Segment Routing with= MPLS > data plane' > as Proposed Standard >=20 > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits f= inal > comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the > ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2019-03-07. Exceptionally, comments may b= e > sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginn= ing > of > the Subject line to allow automated sorting. >=20 > Abstract >=20 >=20 > Segment Routing (SR) leverages the source routing paradigm. A node > steers a packet through a controlled set of instructions, called > segments, by prepending the packet with an SR header. In the MPLS > dataplane, the SR header is instantiated through a label stack. This= > document specifies the forwarding behavior to allow instantiating SR= > over the MPLS dataplane. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > The file can be obtained via > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls= / >=20 > IESG discussion can be tracked via > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls= /ball > ot/ >=20 > The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D: >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2880/ > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2453/ > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2454/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring >=20 > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > 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Malis" Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 10:00:04 -0500 Message-ID: To: Bruno Decraene Cc: SPRING WG , "draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008614eb05835a21bd" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 15:00:21 -0000 --0000000000008614eb05835a21bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Like many others, I also support adoption, this draft is important for SR-MPLS path protection and PM. Cheers, Andy On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 4:03 AM wrote: > Hi SPRING WG, > > This email initiates a two week call for working group adoption for > draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment. > > Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this > draft as a working group item by March 6th 2019. > We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that > are not co-authors of this draft. > We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a > technical review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during > WG the last call. > > Additionally, there are currently 7 authors listed on this document. > Please trim this to <= 5 front-page authors, utilising a "Contributors" > section if required for the others. An approach to achieving this would be > to list ~2 editors as the front-page authors. > > In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this > document. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR > position on this document. > > (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment > > Thanks, > --Bruno & Rob. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez > recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages > electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou > falsifie. Merci. > > This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged > information that may be protected by law; > they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. > If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and > delete this message and its attachments. > As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been > modified, changed or falsified. > Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > --0000000000008614eb05835a21bd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Like many others, I also support adoption, this draft is i= mportant for SR-MPLS path protection and PM.

Cheers,
Andy


On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 4:03 AM <bruno.decraene@orange.com> wro= te:
Hi SPRING WG= ,

This email initiates a two week call for working group adoption for draft-c= heng-spring-mpls-path-segment.

Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dra= ft as a working group item by March 6th 2019.
We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that a= re not co-authors of this draft.
We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technica= l review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the = last call.

Additionally, there are currently 7 authors listed on this document. Please= trim this to <=3D 5 front-page authors, utilising a "Contributors&= quot; section if required for the others. An approach to achieving this wou= ld be to list ~2 editors as the front-page authors.

In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this documen= t. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position = on this document.

(1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draf= t-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment

Thanks,
--Bruno & Rob.


___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________

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Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou = falsifie. Merci.

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--0000000000008614eb05835a21bd-- From nobody Tue Mar 5 07:28:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472AD1275F3; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 07:28:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vQTUIafI4h8i; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 07:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from aer-iport-2.cisco.com (aer-iport-2.cisco.com [173.38.203.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A15661200D8; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 07:28:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=5593; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1551799713; x=1553009313; h=from:subject:to:references:cc:message-id:date: mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bno35MmmWZJkN5/NeKZqlyvb3QqVZnTN/LMvldu9mmE=; b=jU6RfXINMP2SaUASKo7I1OyP/ux++NNUyDcUOIa51n9XVPaIJfXd3hsF NnDCGrBq3b1ZdsbBH1WmOHFGIsgn+Xu1Cx5dI8BGYjtvT36YC63CJdKMi vQcPsrB39Lw50nbSP1wBYjB1HidaahpQftfhqDbO6dtYQzcGx9N6hKl5K w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0AFAAA2lX5c/xbLJq1kGQEBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQcBAQEBAQGBUgMBAQEBAQsBgndxEieNAYx4mCEUgWcNGAuEA0YChE0?= =?us-ascii?q?1CA0BAQMBAQMBAwJtHAyFSgEBAQMBAQE2NgsOAgsRBAEBAS4WESgIBg0GAgE?= =?us-ascii?q?Bgx4BgW0ID6tUhDMChXMFBYEqAYs+gUA/gRAogmuDHgEBA4EmBQESAUUGhTU?= =?us-ascii?q?CiXgchx6SVQmHQ4EaihEGGYF0hWSDIogtkEGMcYFJAzNlcTMaCBsVO4JsghY?= =?us-ascii?q?XiF+FQD4DMI5Xgj4BAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.58,444,1544486400"; d="scan'208";a="10556778" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-2.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 05 Mar 2019 15:28:29 +0000 Received: from [10.147.24.27] ([10.147.24.27]) by aer-core-2.cisco.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x25FSSJF012151; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 15:28:28 GMT From: Peter Psenak To: Alexander Vainshtein References: <20493a62-cf70-a182-900d-e55dd68f5149@cisco.com> Cc: "lsr@ietf.org" , "spring@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions.all@ietf.org" Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 16:28:28 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 10.147.24.27, [10.147.24.27] X-Outbound-Node: aer-core-2.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 15:28:35 -0000 Hi Sasha, On 02/03/2019 18:57 , Alexander Vainshtein wrote: > Peter, > Lots of thanks for a prompt and hivhly informative response. > > It seems that per-FlexAlgo Adj-SIDs can be useful even if they are local. > The relevant use case could be a protected local Adj-SID that is used in > a SR-TE LSP that has been set up with some constraints in mind. These > constraints would be preserved when the protected adjacency in question > is UP, but could be violated when it fails and the shortest path to the > node at the remote end of adjacency is used. yes, this is a possible use case. This would require a new Algo specific Adj-SID sub-TLV to be defined. This could be done. thanks, Peter > > Local protected Adj-SIDs for sure have bern implemented, so this looks > like a more relevant use case than global adjacencies to me. > > What do you think? > > Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, > > Thumb typed by Sasha Vainshtein > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Peter Psenak > *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:56:49 PM > *To:* Alexander Vainshtein; > draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions@ietf.org > *Cc:* lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs > > Hi Alexander, > > On 28/02/2019 19:19 , Alexander Vainshtein wrote: >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I have a question regarding global Adj-SIDs in >> draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions. >> >> >> >> Section 3.4 of RFC 8402 defines >> definition and handling of global Adj-SIDs. >> >> The relevant text is given below: >> >> >> >> >> >> Similarly, when using a global Adj-SID, a packet injected anywhere >> >> within the SR domain with a segment list {SNL}, where SNL is a global >> >> Adj-SID attached by node N to its adjacency over link L, will be >> >> forwarded along the shortest path to Nand then be switched by N, >> >> without any IP shortest-path consideration, towards link L. >> >> ... >> >> The use of global Adj-SID allows to reduce the size of the segment list >> >> When expressing a path at the cost of additional state (i.e., the global >> >> Adj-SID will be inserted by all routers within the area in their >> >> forwarding table). >> >> >> >> >> >> The definition of the Adjacency Segment Identifier Sub-TLV in Section >> 2.2.1 of the draft matches the behavior defined in RFC 8402, i.e., it >> allows advertisement of global Adj-SIDs. >> >> These advertisements can be associated with a specific IGP adjacency >> and, in multi-topology scenarios, a specific topology. But it is not >> associated with any specific algorithm since the default algorithm for >> reaching the advertising node is implicitly assumed in full alignment >> with RFC 8402. >> >> >> >> My question is about the situation in which multiple algorithms are >> supported by the routers in the SR domain, so that each node advertises >> a dedicated Node SID for each of these algorithm. >> >> In this scenario, the operator can set up a SR-TE LSP that meets >> specific constraints (incorporated in one of these algorithms, see IGP >> Flexible Algorithm >> draft) by >> using Node SIDs that have been advertised with the corresponding >> algorithm and local Adj-SIDs. However, global Adj-SIDs cannot be used >> (e.g., for reducing the label stack depth) in this situation. >> >> I wonder if the possibility to advertise global Adj-SID (that can be >> considered as replacing a combination of the Node SID of the advertising >> node and one of its local Adj-SIDs) as associated with a specific >> algorithm has ever been considered? > > to be honest, it has been not. > > The usage of the global Adj-SID has not been widely considered due to > the additional forwarding entries it requires on rest of the routers in > the area. Not sure if there are implementations of the global ADj-SID > out there. > > If you believe this is important, we can certainly addressed that in a > small draft. > > thanks, > Peter > > > > >> >> >> >> Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, >> >> Sasha >> >> >> >> Office: +972-39266302 >> >> Cell: +972-549266302 >> >> Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com >> >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> >> This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains >> information which is >> CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. 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Do you think that the new Algo specific Adj-SID sub-TLV could be added to = the current IS-IS segment Routing Extensions draft, or should be handled i= n a small dedicated document? Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, Sasha Office: +972-39266302 Cell: +972-549266302 Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com -----Original Message----- From: Peter Psenak =20 Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 5:28 PM To: Alexander Vainshtein Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensi= ons.all@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs Hi Sasha, On 02/03/2019 18:57 , Alexander Vainshtein wrote: > Peter, > Lots of thanks for a prompt and hivhly informative response. > > It seems that per-FlexAlgo Adj-SIDs can be useful even if they are local= . > The relevant use case could be a protected local Adj-SID that is used=20= > in a SR-TE LSP that has been set up with some=20constraints in mind.=20 > These constraints would be preserved when the protected adjacency in=20 > question is UP, but could be violated when it fails and the shortest=20 > path to the node at the remote end of adjacency is used. yes, this is a possible use case. This would require a new Algo specific A= dj-SID sub-TLV to be defined. This could be done. thanks, Peter > > Local protected Adj-SIDs for sure have bern implemented, so this looks=20= > like a more relevant use case than global adjacencies to me. > > What do you think? > > Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, > > Thumb typed by Sasha Vainshtein > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > *From:* Peter Psenak > *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:56:49 PM > *To:* Alexander Vainshtein; > draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions@ietf.org > *Cc:* lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs > > Hi Alexander, > > On 28/02/2019 19:19 , Alexander Vainshtein wrote: >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I have a question regarding global Adj-SIDs in=20 >> draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions. >> >> >> >> Section 3.4 of RFC 8402 =20 >> defines definition and handling of global Adj-SIDs. >> >> The relevant text is given below: >> >> >> >> >> >> Similarly, when using a global Adj-SID, a packet injected anywhere >> >> within the SR domain with a segment list {SNL}, where SNL is a=20 >> global >> >> Adj-SID attached by node N to its adjacency over link L, will be >> >> forwarded along the shortest path to Nand then be switched by N, >> >> without any IP shortest-path consideration, towards link L. >> >> ... >> >> The use of global Adj-SID allows to reduce the size of the segment=20= >> list >> >> When expressing a path at the cost of additional state (i.e., the=20= >> global >> >> Adj-SID will be inserted by all routers within the area in their >> >> forwarding table). >> >> >> >> >> >> The definition of the Adjacency Segment Identifier Sub-TLV in Section >> 2.2.1 of the draft matches the behavior defined in RFC 8402, i.e., it=20= >> allows advertisement of global Adj-SIDs. >> >> These advertisements can be associated with a specific IGP adjacency=20= >> and, in multi-topology scenarios, a specific topology. But it is not=20= >> associated with any specific algorithm since the default algorithm=20 >> for reaching the advertising node is implicitly assumed in full=20 >> alignment with RFC 8402. >> >> >> >> My question is about the situation in which multiple algorithms are=20 >> supported by the routers in the SR domain, so that each node=20 >> advertises a dedicated Node SID for each of these algorithm. >> >> In this scenario, the operator can set up a SR-TE LSP that meets=20 >> specific constraints (incorporated in one of these algorithms, see=20 >> IGP Flexible Algorithm=20 >> draft) by=20 >> using Node SIDs that have been advertised with the corresponding=20 >> algorithm and local Adj-SIDs. However, global Adj-SIDs cannot be used=20= >> (e.g., for reducing the label stack depth) in this situation. >> >> I wonder if the possibility to advertise global Adj-SID (that can be=20= >> considered as replacing a combination of the Node SID of the=20 >> advertising node and one of its local Adj-SIDs) as associated with a=20= >> specific algorithm has ever been considered? > > to be honest, it has been not. > > The usage of the global Adj-SID has not been widely considered due to=20= > the additional forwarding entries it requires on rest of the routers=20 > in the area. Not sure if there are implementations of the global=20 > ADj-SID out there. > > If you believe this is important, we can certainly addressed that in a=20= > small draft. > > thanks, > Peter > > > > >> >> >> >> Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, >> >> Sasha >> >> >> >> Office: +972-39266302 >> >> Cell: +972-549266302 >> >> Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com >> >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> ______ >> >> This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains=20 >> information which is CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI=20= >> Telecom. If you have received this transmission in error, please=20 >> inform us by e-mail, phone or fax, and then delete the original and=20 >> all copies thereof. >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> ______ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> spring mailing list >> spring@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring >> > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _____ > > This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains=20 > information which is CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI=20= > Telecom. 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it would have to be a new draft, existing ISIS SR draft is on its way to become an RFC and we do not want to return it back to the WG due to this. thanks, Peter > > Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, > Sasha > > Office: +972-39266302 > Cell: +972-549266302 > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Psenak > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 5:28 PM > To: Alexander Vainshtein > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions.all@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs > > Hi Sasha, > > On 02/03/2019 18:57 , Alexander Vainshtein wrote: >> Peter, >> Lots of thanks for a prompt and hivhly informative response. >> >> It seems that per-FlexAlgo Adj-SIDs can be useful even if they are local. >> The relevant use case could be a protected local Adj-SID that is used >> in a SR-TE LSP that has been set up with some constraints in mind. >> These constraints would be preserved when the protected adjacency in >> question is UP, but could be violated when it fails and the shortest >> path to the node at the remote end of adjacency is used. > > yes, this is a possible use case. This would require a new Algo specific Adj-SID sub-TLV to be defined. This could be done. > > thanks, > Peter > > > >> >> Local protected Adj-SIDs for sure have bern implemented, so this looks >> like a more relevant use case than global adjacencies to me. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, >> >> Thumb typed by Sasha Vainshtein >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> *From:* Peter Psenak >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:56:49 PM >> *To:* Alexander Vainshtein; >> draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions@ietf.org >> *Cc:* lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org >> *Subject:* Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs >> >> Hi Alexander, >> >> On 28/02/2019 19:19 , Alexander Vainshtein wrote: >>> Dear colleagues, >>> >>> I have a question regarding global Adj-SIDs in >>> draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions. >>> >>> >>> >>> Section 3.4 of RFC 8402 >>> defines definition and handling of global Adj-SIDs. >>> >>> The relevant text is given below: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Similarly, when using a global Adj-SID, a packet injected anywhere >>> >>> within the SR domain with a segment list {SNL}, where SNL is a >>> global >>> >>> Adj-SID attached by node N to its adjacency over link L, will be >>> >>> forwarded along the shortest path to Nand then be switched by N, >>> >>> without any IP shortest-path consideration, towards link L. >>> >>> ... >>> >>> The use of global Adj-SID allows to reduce the size of the segment >>> list >>> >>> When expressing a path at the cost of additional state (i.e., the >>> global >>> >>> Adj-SID will be inserted by all routers within the area in their >>> >>> forwarding table). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The definition of the Adjacency Segment Identifier Sub-TLV in Section >>> 2.2.1 of the draft matches the behavior defined in RFC 8402, i.e., it >>> allows advertisement of global Adj-SIDs. >>> >>> These advertisements can be associated with a specific IGP adjacency >>> and, in multi-topology scenarios, a specific topology. But it is not >>> associated with any specific algorithm since the default algorithm >>> for reaching the advertising node is implicitly assumed in full >>> alignment with RFC 8402. >>> >>> >>> >>> My question is about the situation in which multiple algorithms are >>> supported by the routers in the SR domain, so that each node >>> advertises a dedicated Node SID for each of these algorithm. >>> >>> In this scenario, the operator can set up a SR-TE LSP that meets >>> specific constraints (incorporated in one of these algorithms, see >>> IGP Flexible Algorithm >>> draft) by >>> using Node SIDs that have been advertised with the corresponding >>> algorithm and local Adj-SIDs. However, global Adj-SIDs cannot be used >>> (e.g., for reducing the label stack depth) in this situation. >>> >>> I wonder if the possibility to advertise global Adj-SID (that can be >>> considered as replacing a combination of the Node SID of the >>> advertising node and one of its local Adj-SIDs) as associated with a >>> specific algorithm has ever been considered? >> >> to be honest, it has been not. >> >> The usage of the global Adj-SID has not been widely considered due to >> the additional forwarding entries it requires on rest of the routers >> in the area. Not sure if there are implementations of the global >> ADj-SID out there. >> >> If you believe this is important, we can certainly addressed that in a >> small draft. >> >> thanks, >> Peter >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, >>> >>> Sasha >>> >>> >>> >>> Office: +972-39266302 >>> >>> Cell: +972-549266302 >>> >>> Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _____________________________________________________________________ >>> ______ >>> >>> This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains >>> information which is CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI >>> Telecom. 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It is too late to make significant changes. Further, while I agree with both your description and Peter's response, agr= eeing that this "could" be done is not equivalent to having consensus that = it "should" be done. I think a more complete consideration of the deployment cases and the usefu= lness of such an extension should be discussed by the WG before we decide t= hat we actually want to define such an extension. Les > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Vainshtein > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 8:29 AM > To: Peter Psenak (ppsenak) > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing- > extensions.all@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs >=20 > Peter, > Lots of thanks for a prompt and very encouraging response. >=20 > Do you think that the new Algo specific Adj-SID sub-TLV could be added to > the current IS-IS segment Routing Extensions draft, or should be handled = in a > small dedicated document? >=20 > Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, > Sasha >=20 > Office: +972-39266302 > Cell: +972-549266302 > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Psenak > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 5:28 PM > To: Alexander Vainshtein > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing- > extensions.all@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs >=20 > Hi Sasha, >=20 > On 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X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: VI1PR03MB4973 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 16:47:29 -0000 Les, Lots of thanks for a prompt response. I fully understand that the current SR extension drafts are too far advanc= ed for any significant changes. I also understand that Algo-specific Adj-SIDs require an update to RFC 840= 2 because today it does not recognize any such entities. Therefore the discussion of use cases should probably start in the SPRING = WG while effective the result would be "just" new Sub-TLV in IS-IS and OSP= F with the actual work coming to the LSR WG.=20 Any ideas as to what would be the best way to start this kind of discussio= ns?=20 Regards, Sasha Office: +972-39266302 Cell: +972-549266302 Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com -----Original Message----- From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) =20 Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 6:37 PM To: Alexander Vainshtein ; Peter Psenak = (ppsenak) Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensi= ons.all@ietf.org Subject: RE: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs Sasha - draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions is currently in AD review - and= the companion OSPF document has already been approved and is waiting for = a dependent draft to progress before publication as an RFC. It is too late to make significant changes. Further, while I agree with both your description and Peter's response, ag= reeing that this "could" be done is not equivalent to having consensus tha= t it "should" be done. I think a more complete consideration of the deployment cases and the usef= ulness of such an extension should be discussed by the WG before we decide= that we actually want to define such an extension. Les > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Vainshtein > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 8:29 AM > To: Peter Psenak (ppsenak) > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-=20 > extensions.all@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs >=20 > Peter, > Lots of thanks for a prompt and very encouraging response. >=20 > Do you think that the new Algo specific Adj-SID sub-TLV could be added=20= > to the current IS-IS segment Routing Extensions draft, or should be=20 > handled in a small dedicated document? >=20 > Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, Sasha >=20 > Office: +972-39266302 > Cell: +972-549266302 > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Psenak > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 5:28 PM > To: Alexander Vainshtein > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-=20 > extensions.all@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs >=20 > Hi Sasha, >=20 > On 02/03/2019 18:57 , Alexander Vainshtein wrote: > > Peter, > > Lots of thanks for a prompt and hivhly informative response. > > > > It seems that per-FlexAlgo Adj-SIDs can be useful even if they are=20 > > local __________________________________________________________________________= _ This e-mail message=20is intended for the recipient only and contains info= rmation which is=20 CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 914201fe-4b8c-447d-dc0b-08d6a1abf4f0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 05 Mar 2019 20:48:43.8467 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 5ae1af62-9505-4097-a69a-c1553ef7840e X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BYAPR11MB2584 X-OriginatorOrg: cisco.com X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 173.36.7.12, xch-aln-002.cisco.com X-Outbound-Node: rcdn-core-9.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 20:48:51 -0000 Sasha - Although you raise a valid issue, I am not feeling any urgency here i.e., a= lthough the local protected use case is valid I don't see it as operational= ly critical. However, that's just my opinion. If you want to pursue this I think you could raise the issue in either LSR = or SPRING (or both). The gap in the architecture documents is less important than coming to cons= ensus on the importance of the use case. If there is consensus to address = this then I think deciding what documents need updating will just follow lo= gically. Make sense to you? Les > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Vainshtein > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 8:47 AM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing- > extensions.all@ietf.org; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) > Subject: RE: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs >=20 > Les, > Lots of thanks for a prompt response. >=20 > I fully understand that the current SR extension drafts are too far advan= ced > for any significant changes. >=20 > I also understand that Algo-specific Adj-SIDs require an update to RFC 84= 02 > because today it does not recognize any such entities. > Therefore the discussion of use cases should probably start in the SPRING > WG while effective the result would be "just" new Sub-TLV in IS-IS and OS= PF > with the actual work coming to the LSR WG. >=20 > Any ideas as to what would be the best way to start this kind of discussi= ons? >=20 > Regards, > Sasha >=20 > Office: +972-39266302 > Cell: +972-549266302 > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 6:37 PM > To: Alexander Vainshtein ; Peter > Psenak (ppsenak) > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing- > extensions.all@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs >=20 > Sasha - >=20 > draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions is currently in AD review - an= d the > companion OSPF document has already been approved and is waiting for a > dependent draft to progress before publication as an RFC. >=20 > It is too late to make significant changes. >=20 > Further, while I agree with both your description and Peter's response, > agreeing that this "could" be done is not equivalent to having consensus = that > it "should" be done. > I think a more complete consideration of the deployment cases and the > usefulness of such an extension should be discussed by the WG before we > decide that we actually want to define such an extension. >=20 > Les >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alexander Vainshtein > > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 8:29 AM > > To: Peter Psenak (ppsenak) > > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing- > > extensions.all@ietf.org > > Subject: RE: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs > > > > Peter, > > Lots of thanks for a prompt and very encouraging response. > > > > Do you think that the new Algo specific Adj-SID sub-TLV could be added > > to the current IS-IS segment Routing Extensions draft, or should be > > handled in a small dedicated document? > > > > Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, Sasha > > > > Office: +972-39266302 > > Cell: +972-549266302 > > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter Psenak > > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 5:28 PM > > To: Alexander Vainshtein > > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing- > > extensions.all@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs > > > > Hi Sasha, > > > > On 02/03/2019 18:57 , Alexander Vainshtein wrote: > > > Peter, > > > Lots of thanks for a prompt and hivhly informative response. > > > > > > It seems that per-FlexAlgo Adj-SIDs can be useful even if they are > > > local >=20 > __________________________________________________________ > _________________ >=20 > This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains > information which is > CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. 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The work on STAMP is progressing and the base specification, draft-ietf-ippm-stamp , is in WG LC through March 15. Much appreciate your review and comments. Also, much interested in your comments on draft-mirsky-ippm-stamp-option-tlv . I believe that there's a good reason for us to work together on STAMP extensions that address specific SR scenarios. Regards, Greg On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 6:17 AM Rakesh Gandhi (rgandhi) wrote: > Thank you Greg for the thorough review of the document and your comments. > > > > Please see in line with =E2=80=A6 > > > > *From: *Greg Mirsky > *Date: *Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 7:05 PM > *To: *"draft-gandhi-spring-twamp-srpm@ietf.org" < > draft-gandhi-spring-twamp-srpm@ietf.org>, spring , IETF > IPPM WG > *Subject: *Comments on draft-gandhi-spring-twamp-srpm > *Resent-From: * > *Resent-To: *"=3DSMTP:rgandhi@cisco. com" , < > cfilsfil@cisco.com>, > *Resent-Date: *Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 7:05 PM > > > > Dear Authors, > > I've read the draft and would share my comments with SPRING and IPPM WGs: > > > - Section 3.1.1 > > > - what is introduced in this section? Note, that in OWAMP 'O' stands > for 'one-way', i.e., the receiver collects the measurement results.= RFC > 4656 defines Client Fetch command to retrieve, possibly by the > Session-Sender, the measurement results. > > Idea is that the user provisions the UDP port and the attributes > (e.g. timestamp format, authentication mode/type, etc. associated with th= e > UDP port) on both endpoints of SR paths. These configurations are used to > interpret *WAMP(Light) payloads to provide delay and loss measurements. T= he > motivation is to eliminate the control-channel signaling - the spirit of = SR. > > - note that RFCs 4656 and 5357 defined the use only of NTP format for > timestamps. The use of PTP format was introduced by RFC 8186 for TW= AMP only > as optional, not as the default mode. The default format for TWAMP-= Test is > still NTP format. You may consider using the mechanism defined for > TWAMP-Control to change the default to PTP format. > > As mentioned above, the motivation of this work is to move away from > the control-channel signaling to boot-strap PM sessions. So, we are not > extending the control-channel signaling. > > - Section 3.1.2 > > > - a new format for Session-Sender's TWAMP-Test message introduced. > Note, that the format for Session-Sender TWAMP-Test message is the = same as > defined in RFC 4656. If you want to define a new TWAMP-Test optiona= l format > it first must be negotiated through TWAMP-Control protocol as has b= een done > for all TWAMP extensions. > - how the format you've proposed is different from the one proposed > earlier in draft-xiao-ippm-twamp-ext-direct-loss > > . > - Your intention, if I understand correctly, is > to support direct-mode loss > measurement. draft-xiao-ippm-twamp-ext-direct-loss > proposed that earlier and with proper TWAMP-Control extension. > After the IPPM WG agreed to work on STAMP, > authors of draft-xiao-ippm-twamp-ext-direct-loss and STAMP agreed t= o work > together and now the direct-mode loss measurement is part of > draft-mirsky-ippm-stamp-option-tlv > > . > > Your understanding is correct. Thank you for the background and > pointing to the LM TLV. We can analyze to see if we can leverage the TLV. > Again, we are not extending the control-channel signaling. > > - the last bullet in the section refers to PSID but I couldn't find a > PSID field in any of the displayed formats, authenticated or not. I= s it for > further versions? > > Ok, we will add the definition/detail in the next revision. > > - Section 3.1.4.1 > > > - what is illustrated in this sub-section? That TWAMP-Test message > with IP/UDP encapsulation can be carried over SR-MPLS tunnel? > > It shows how the measurement packet is carried over SR-MPLS Policy. > > - Section 3.1.4.2 > > > - same question as above. > > It shows how the measurement packet is carried over SRv6 Policy and > what END function is used for timestamp and punting the packet. > > - Section 4 > > > - is the formula to calculate the packet loss using the direct-mode > measurement is worth repeating in RFC? > > It is good to have it at the early stage of the document. We can > remove it later in the process. > > - Section 5 > > > - without the discussion of the impact on the Session-Sender that > reflected test packets may have, I cannot agree with the assumption= : > > The procedures for delay and loss measurement described in this > > document for Point-to-Point (P2P) SR-MPLS Policies are also equally > > applicable to the Point-to-Multipoint (P2MP) SR Policies. > > > > Yes, we can elaborate it in the next revision. Idea it that the > querier uses the source address of the responders (i.e. leafs) to identif= y > the measurements to each leaf. > > > - Section 7 > > > - OWAMP and TWAMP use HMAC-SHA1 for integrity protection. If your > intent is to use HMAC-SHA-256 in the authenticated mode for OWAMP a= nd/or > TWAMP, then it may be supported as an optional extension with the p= roper > extension in their respective control protocols. Should note that t= he > use of HMAC-SHA-256 for STAMP was discussed at IPPM WG meeting in B= angkok > and now is documented in the latest version of STAMP. > > Thanks for sharing this information. We will update the draft > accordingly. This is also a property of the UDP port configured and both > methods can be used. As mentioned earlier, we are moving away from using > the control-channel signaling. > > Many thanks for the detailed review and feedbacks. > > Rakesh > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > > --0000000000008a295f0583648652 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Rakesh,
the commo= n understanding of the TWAMP and TWAMP Light by IPPM WG is reflected in=C2= =A0draft-ietf-ippm-por<= span style=3D"color:rgb(32,33,36);font-variant-ligatures:no-contextual">t-t= wamp-test=C2=A0(soon to be published as RFC 8545). The work on S= TAMP is progressing and the base specification,=C2=A0draft-ietf-ippm-stamp, is= in WG LC through March 15. Much appreciate your review and comments. Also,= much interested in your comments on=C2=A0draft-mirsky-ippm-stamp-opt= ion-tlv. I believe=C2=A0that there's a good reason for us to work t= ogether on STAMP extensions that address specific SR scenarios.

Regards,
Greg

=
On Sun, Ma= r 3, 2019 at 6:17 AM Rakesh Gandhi (rgandhi) <rgandhi@cisco.com> wrote:

Thank you Greg f= or the thorough review of the document and your comments.

=C2=A0=

Please see in li= ne with <RG>=E2=80=A6

=C2=A0=

F= rom: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 7:05 PM
To: "draft-gandhi-spring-twamp-srpm@ietf.org" <= draft-gandhi-spring-twamp-srpm@ietf.org>, spring <spring@ietf.org>, IETF IPPM WG= <ippm@ietf.org&g= t;
Subject: Comments on draft-gandhi-spring-twamp-srpm
Resent-From: <alias-bounces@ietf.org>
Resent-To: "=3DSMTP:rgandhi@cisco. com" <rgandhi@cisco.com>, <cfilsfil@cisco.com= >, <daniel.= voyer@bell.ca>
Resent-Date: Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 7:05 PM

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Dear Authors,

I've read the draft and would share my comments = with SPRING and IPPM WGs:

  • Section 3.1.1
    • what is introduced in this section? Note, that in OWAMP 'O' stands = for 'one-way', i.e., the receiver collects the measurement results.= RFC 4656 defines Client Fetch command to retrieve, possibly by the Session= -Sender, the measurement results.

<RG> Idea is that the user provisions the UDP = port and the attributes (e.g. timestamp format, authentication mode/type, e= tc. associated with the UDP port) on both endpoints of SR paths. These configurations are used to interpret *WAMP(Light) payloads to= provide delay and loss measurements. The motivation is to eliminate the co= ntrol-channel signaling - the spirit of SR.

    • note that RFCs 4656 and 5357 defined the use only of NTP format for timesta= mps. The use of PTP format was introduced by RFC 8186 for TWAMP only as opt= ional, not as the default mode. The default format for TWAMP-Test is still = NTP format. You may consider using the mechanism defined for TWAMP-Control to change the default=C2=A0to PTP = format.

<RG> As mentioned above, the motivation of thi= s work is to move away from the control-channel signaling to boot-strap PM = sessions. So, we are not extending the control-channel signaling.=

  • Section 3.1.2
    • a new format for Session-Sender's TWAMP-Test message introduced. Note, = that the format for Session-Sender TWAMP-Test message is the same as define= d in RFC 4656. If you want to define a new TWAMP-Test optional format it fi= rst must be negotiated through TWAMP-Control protocol as has been done for all TWAMP extensions.
    • how the format you've proposed is different from the one proposed earli= er=C2=A0in=C2=A0draft-xiao-ippm-twamp-ext-direct-lo= ss.
    • Your intention, if I understand correctly, is to=C2=A0support=C2=A0direct-m= ode loss measurement.=C2=A0draft-xiao-ippm-twamp-ext-direct-loss proposed= =C2=A0that=C2=A0earlier=C2=A0and=C2=A0with proper=C2=A0TWAMP-Control extens= ion. After=C2=A0the=C2=A0IPPM WG=C2=A0agreed=C2=A0to=C2=A0work on=C2=A0STAM= P, authors=C2=A0of=C2=A0draft-xiao-ippm-twamp-ext-direct-loss and STAMP agreed to=C2=A0work together and now=C2=A0the direct-mode loss m= easurement=C2=A0is part of=C2=A0dr= aft-mirsky-ippm-stamp-option-tlv.

<RG> Your understanding is correct. Thank you = for the background and pointing to the LM TLV. We can analyze to see if we = can leverage the TLV. Again, we are not extending the control-channel signaling.

    • the last bullet in the section refers to PSID but I couldn't find a PSI= D field in any of the displayed formats, authenticated or not. Is it for fu= rther versions?

<RG> Ok, we will add the definition/detail in = the next revision.

  • Section 3.1.4.1
    • what is illustrated in this sub-section? That TWAMP-Test message with IP/UD= P encapsulation can be carried over SR-MPLS tunnel?

<RG> It shows how the measurement packet is ca= rried over SR-MPLS Policy.

  • Section 3.1.4.2
    • same question as above.

<RG> It shows how the measurement packet is ca= rried over SRv6 Policy and what END function is used for timestamp and punt= ing the packet.

  • Section 4
    • is the formula to calculate the packet loss using the direct-mode measureme= nt is worth repeating in RFC?

<RG> It is good to have it at the early stage = of the document. We can remove it later in the process.

  • Section 5
    • without the discussion of the impact on the Session-Sender that reflected t= est packets may have, I cannot agree with the assumption:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0The procedures for delay and loss measu= rement described in this

=C2=A0 =C2=A0document for Point-to-Point (P2P) SR-MP= LS Policies are also equally

=C2=A0 =C2=A0applicable to the Point-to-Multipoint (= P2MP) SR Policies.

=C2=A0

<RG> Yes, we can elaborate it in the next revi= sion. Idea it that the querier uses the source address of the responders (i= .e. leafs) to identify the measurements to each leaf.

  • Section 7
    • OWAMP and TWAMP use HMAC-SHA1 for integrity protection. If your intent is t= o use HMAC-SHA-256 in the authenticated mode for OWAMP and/or TWAMP, then i= t may be supported as an optional extension with the proper extension in th= eir respective control protocols. Should note that the use=C2=A0of HMAC-SHA-256 for STAMP was discussed at I= PPM WG meeting in Bangkok and now is documented in the latest version of ST= AMP.

<RG> Thanks for sharing this information. We w= ill update the draft accordingly. This is also a property of the UDP port c= onfigured and both methods can be used. As mentioned earlier, we are moving away from using the control-channel signaling.=

Many thanks for the detailed review and feedbacks.

Rakesh

=C2=A0

Regards,

Greg

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--0000000000008a295f0583648652-- From nobody Tue Mar 5 19:57:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C65F130E8A for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 19:57:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8xAtzltULKD8 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 19:57:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-io1-xd2e.google.com (mail-io1-xd2e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83C86130E70 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 19:57:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-io1-xd2e.google.com with SMTP id p18so9031817ioh.5 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 19:57:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=2IPd/jLJeDRGxpbb2ZKLHGxWuq4gtgpU48foh4+KX4A=; b=FLyN+06CzNoLd1nkm74OG7V1eu9a+naHDsAPlc9vlfV5mOq7nfTfnAIQkRDJefcPMn JNHMSj2KhPR/UWsHp4PW+mqOxQ8q19BGs83th4thyAibm+tPj0R5ROs9+DhhJ77HGU1B VUsbLPmJgaxV+qO/nW7RdDRdt1Wr2S4TFHw5Fcq1it8nJiJBzASOIcMih7DgQQUP74UX H30aXsdq7PoPPfpoYYhmbjttaRkAd8z9dgvnCmF4OHh3GPl2ZSAYPvhKmFkuX/y9f2G4 /RXEd1wWuAEXnt0+UeeTLdnWbGkQ3umLBn1QUVbhDFKHmHCiIwFmVKfo+qMLvwFcUKC6 y2Xg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=2IPd/jLJeDRGxpbb2ZKLHGxWuq4gtgpU48foh4+KX4A=; b=MqMDvuWKN9fGK3DoG7Ur0pNrrG2OepHvr5a4VkpXCH5Uou+KWjEUtKyiNRTl7OJL3R eLNxXWCTwyrc1I+b7572agb4ok7y4WYW4APqFAJCz8K+fGs7XoPOo8DLeYmO570GHgJw dROhr7ZoJrKKF0oQ2bE8ea+9mMCsomSH0yi92/38M113xWV8NuYsnquuKs/qy5049EnC fuhcS5Nyxnlg329JkAyM+Y0ELI/a4QCTAK8rxY7qe4oeGmJNSOz0Jzc3pwqiHg6RJziP aLHozDicNf1ywjkX5jggM7OK7cYInHaAxN3hprr0alFnLrdizikl+mxrn+bJ9WNJQFSj nqRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXdN/RVFHlCeYc7B/cCzWGZBP8y7l1hBnLSzdXfl48KyYySJc+T yvz8K7i+cN/btoQckRt5YX5uToenQHhxU9hJcqk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwyVH2FTktUCKIdBrPQCVnPv8wOrfIK5nNRYJtJoh0nHGzk4Di5JLhHYScLfYZyrR1G9lvCwtGDwevBw08vTso= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:b4cf:: with SMTP id d198mr1821431iof.96.1551844657574; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 19:57:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: tech_kals Kals Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 09:26:35 +0530 Message-ID: To: ask-segment-routing@cisco.com, "Stefano Previdi (sprevidi)" , cfilsfil@cisco.com, "Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy)" , "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" , "Peter Psenak (ppsenak)" , martin.pilka@pantheon.tech, "spring@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008fbbd4058364fd2b" Archived-At: Subject: [spring] Questions on Segment Routing X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2019 03:57:42 -0000 --0000000000008fbbd4058364fd2b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Experts, I have few questions on Segment Routing. Can you please clarify my doubts. 1) How OAM can be done in segment-routed networks ? I think, MPLS OAM is not possible with SR as network infrastructure doesn't have any LSP state. With SDN controller in place, do we really need traditional OAM ? SDN controller can do OAM, but at what cost (like BGP-LS) ? 2) How will the traffic handoff happen from aggregate network to core network ? core is running RSVP-TE, so IP handoff can be done on edge router ? I don't think, SDN controller can control RSVP enabled routers. So, how it is to make end-to-end TE i.e from Aggregate router to Core Router ? 3) can prefix sid be used to replace VRF in L3VPN scenario? (or any other way in SR can avoid vrf ?) Assume, on a router there are two interfaces. one is 10.1.1.0 VRF-1, another one is VRF2-10.1.1.0. Which SID should I use to differentiate them? Can I use, prefix SID in this case ? Is the below will work ? Eth1 - VRF-1: 10.1.1.0 == Prefix SID: 1000 Eth2 - VRF-2: 10.1.1.0 == Prefix SID: 2000 4) How to handle multicast/broadcast using SR ? 5) SRv6 stacking ipv6 SRH might hit MTU limit somewhere in the network. Is my understanding correct ? 6) Does VRRP work with SR ? how fault would be propagated in a necklace topology? 7) Is there any known issues related to interop with different vendors ? 8) While programming Node-SID on MPLS ILM table, can I assume node-SID would always be programmed with SWAP operation except on PHP node? Thanks, __kals__ --0000000000008fbbd4058364fd2b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Experts,

I have few questions on Seg= ment Routing. Can you please clarify my doubts.

1) How OAM can be=C2=A0done in=C2=A0segment-routed networks ?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think, MPLS OAM is not possible with S= R as=C2=A0network infrastructure doesn't have any LSP state.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0With SDN controller in place,=C2=A0do w= e really need traditional OAM=C2=A0?

=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0SDN controller can do=C2=A0OAM, but at what cost (like BGP-LS) ?<= /p>

=C2=A0

2) How will the traffic handoff happen from aggregate network to core network ?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 core is running RSVP-TE, so=C2=A0IP handoff=C2=A0 can be done=C2=A0on edge router ?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I don't think, SDN controller can=C2=A0control = RSVP enabled=C2=A0routers. So,=C2=A0how it is to make end-to-end=C2=A0TE i= .e from Aggregate router to Core Router ?

=C2=A0

3)=C2=A0can prefix sid be used to replace VRF=C2=A0in L3VPN scenario?=C2=A0(or any other way in SR can avoid vrf=C2=A0?)

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Assume, on a router there are two interfaces.= one is 10.1.1.0 VRF-1, another one is VRF2-10.1.1.0.=C2=A0

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Which SID should I use to differentiate them? Can = I use, prefix SID in this case ?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Is= the below will work ?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Eth1 - VRF-1= : 10.1.1.0=C2=A0 =3D=3D Prefix SID: 1000

=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0Eth2 - VRF-2: 10.1.1.0=C2=A0 =3D=3D Prefix SID: 2000=C2= =A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0

4) How to handle multicast/broadcast using SR=C2=A0?

=C2=A0

5) SRv6 stacking ipv6 SRH might hit MTU limit somewhere in the network.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Is my understanding correc= t ?

=C2=A0

6) Does=C2=A0VRRP work=C2=A0with SR ?=C2=A0how fault would be propagated=C2=A0in a necklace topology?=C2=A0

=C2=A0

7) Is there any known issues related to=C2=A0interop with=C2=A0di= fferent vendors ?


8) While pro= gramming Node-SID on MPLS ILM table, can I assume node-SID would always be = programmed with SWAP operation except on PHP node?


=

Thanks,

__kals_= _

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This would also give us confidence in progressing the related work in PCE. Thanks! Dhruv On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 2:33 PM wrote: > Hi SPRING WG, > > This email initiates a two week call for working group adoption for > draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment. > > Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this > draft as a working group item by March 6th 2019. > We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that > are not co-authors of this draft. > We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a > technical review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during > WG the last call. > > Additionally, there are currently 7 authors listed on this document. > Please trim this to <= 5 front-page authors, utilising a "Contributors" > section if required for the others. An approach to achieving this would be > to list ~2 editors as the front-page authors. > > In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this > document. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR > position on this document. > > (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment > > Thanks, > --Bruno & Rob. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez > recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages > electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou > falsifie. 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Hi Bruno,=C2=A0

I support adoption of this work in Spr= ing.=C2=A0
This would also give us confide= nce in progressing the related work in PCE.

Thanks!=C2=A0<= /div>
Dhruv=C2=A0

On Wed, Feb 20= , 2019 at 2:33 PM <bruno.de= craene@orange.com> wrote:
Hi SPRING WG,

This email initiates a two week call for working group adoption for draft-c= heng-spring-mpls-path-segment.

Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dra= ft as a working group item by March 6th 2019.
We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that a= re not co-authors of this draft.
We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technica= l review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the = last call.

Additionally, there are currently 7 authors listed on this document. Please= trim this to <=3D 5 front-page authors, utilising a "Contributors&= quot; section if required for the others. An approach to achieving this wou= ld be to list ~2 editors as the front-page authors.

In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this documen= t. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position = on this document.

(1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draf= t-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment

Thanks,
--Bruno & Rob.


___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________

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boundary="_000_AM0PR03MB382885BFF7D69DC4B70CAA409D730AM0PR03MB3828eurp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: ecitele.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: dd6b7c57-352f-48dd-1fc1-08d6a1f534bd X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 06 Mar 2019 05:33:04.2552 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 2c514a61-08de-4519-b4c0-921fef62c42a X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM0PR03MB3508 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] Questions on Segment Routing X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2019 05:33:16 -0000 --_000_AM0PR03MB382885BFF7D69DC4B70CAA409D730AM0PR03MB3828eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kals, Some short answers reflecting my personal understandings 1. LSP Ping and Traceroute work just fine with SR-MPLS. Therefore on-deman= d OAM is not a problem. 2. There are several options for proactive OAM in SR-MPLS, including usage= of Path Segments. 3. Prefix SIDs are NOT a replacement for BGP/MPLS IP VPNs. Thumb typed by Sasha Vainshtein ________________________________ From: spring on behalf of tech_kals Kals Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 5:56:35 AM To: ask-segment-routing@cisco.com; Stefano Previdi (sprevidi); cfilsfil@ci= sco.com; Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy); Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Peter Psenak = (ppsenak); martin.pilka@pantheon.tech; spring@ietf.org Subject: [spring] Questions on Segment Routing Hi Experts, I have few questions on Segment Routing. Can you please clarify my doubts.= 1) How OAM can be done in segment-routed networks ? I think, MPLS OAM is not possible with SR as network infrastructure d= oesn't have any LSP state. With SDN controller in place, do we really need traditional OAM ? SDN controller can do OAM, but at what cost (like BGP-LS) ? 2) How will the traffic handoff happen from aggregate network to core netw= ork ? core is running RSVP-TE, so IP handoff can be done on edge router ? I don't think, SDN controller can control RSVP enabled routers. So, ho= w it is to make end-to-end TE i..e from Aggregate router to Core Router ? 3) can prefix sid be used to replace VRF in L3VPN scenario? (or any other = way in SR can avoid vrf ?) Assume, on a router there are two interfaces. one is 10.1.1.0 VRF-1, = another one is VRF2-10.1.1.0. Which SID should I use to differentiate them? Can I use, prefix SID i= n this case ? Is the below will work ? Eth1 - VRF-1: 10.1.1.0 =3D=3D Prefix SID: 1000 Eth2 - VRF-2: 10.1.1.0 =3D=3D Prefix SID: 2000 4) How to handle multicast/broadcast using SR ? 5) SRv6 stacking ipv6 SRH might hit MTU limit somewhere in the network. Is my understanding correct ? 6) Does VRRP work with SR ? how fault would be propagated in a necklace to= pology? 7) Is there any known issues related to interop with different vendors ? 8) While programming Node-SID on MPLS ILM table, can I assume node-SID wou= ld always be programmed with SWAP operation except on PHP node? Thanks, __kals__ __________________________________________________________________________= _ This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains inform= ation which is=20 CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. If you have rece= ived this=20 transmission in error, please inform us by e-mail, phone or fax, and then = delete the original=20 and all copies thereof. __________________________________________________________________________= _ --_000_AM0PR03MB382885BFF7D69DC4B70CAA409D730AM0PR03MB3828eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kals,
Some short answers reflecting my personal understandings
1. LSP Ping and Traceroute work just fine with SR-MPLS. Therefore on-deman= d OAM is not a problem.
2. There are several options for proactive OAM in SR-MPLS, including usage= of Path Segments.
3. Prefix SIDs are NOT a replacement for BGP/MPLS IP VPNs.

Thumb typed by Sasha Vainshtein

From: spring <spring-b= ounces@ietf.org> on behalf of tech_kals Kals <tech.kals@gmail.com>= ;
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 5:56:35 AM
To: ask-segment-routing@cisco.com; Stefano Previdi (sprevidi); cfil= sfil@cisco.com; Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy); Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Peter = Psenak (ppsenak); martin.pilka@pantheon.tech; spring@ietf.org
Subject: [spring] Questions on Segment Routing
 
Hi Experts,

I have few questions on Segment Routing. Can you please clarify my do= ubts.

1) How OAM can= be done in segment-routed networks ?

    =  I think, MPLS OAM is not possible with SR as network infrastructu= re doesn't have any LSP state.

    =  With SDN controller in place, do we really need tradit= ional OAM ?

     SDN controller can do OAM, but at what cost (like BGP-LS) ?

 <= /p>

2) = How will the traffic handoff happen from aggregate network to core network ?

&nb= sp;   core is running RSVP-TE, so IP handoff  can be done on edge router ?

    = I don't think, SDN controller can control RSVP enabled routers. = So, how it is to make end-to-end TE i..e from Aggregate= router to Core Router ?

 <= /p>

3) can prefix sid be used to replace VRF in L3VPN scenario? (or any other way in SR can avoid vrf ?)

    =  Assume, on a router there are two interfaces. one is 10.1.1.0 VRF-1,= another one is VRF2-10.1.1.0. 

    =  Which SID should I use to differentiate them? Can I use, prefix SID = in this case ?

    =  Is the below will work ?

    =  Eth1 - VRF-1: 10.1.1.0  =3D=3D Prefix SID: 1000

  &n= bsp;  Eth2 - VRF-2: 10.1.1.0  =3D=3D Prefix SID: 2000&nbs= p; 

 <= /p>

4) How to hand= le multicast/broadcast using SR ?

 <= /p>

5) SRv6 stacki= ng ipv6 SRH might hit MTU limit somewhere in the network.

    =  Is my understanding correct ?

 <= /p>

6) Does V= RRP work with SR ? how fault would be propagated in a neckl= ace topology? 

 <= /p>

7) Is there an= y known issues related to interop with different vendors ?


8) While progr= amming Node-SID on MPLS ILM table, can I assume node-SID would always be p= rogrammed with SWAP operation except on PHP node?


__kals__


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CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. If you have rece= ived this
transmission in error, please inform us by e-mail, phone or fax, and then = delete the original
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Thumb typed by Sasha Vainshtein ________________________________ From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 10:48:43 PM To: Alexander Vainshtein Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensi= ons.all@ietf.org; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) Subject: RE: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs Sasha - Although you raise a valid issue, I am not feeling any urgency here i.e., = although the local protected use case is valid I don't see it as operation= ally critical. However, that's just my opinion. If you want to pursue this I think you could raise the issue in either LSR= or SPRING (or both). The gap in the architecture documents is less important than coming to con= sensus on the importance of the use case. If there is consensus to addres= s this then I think deciding what documents need updating will just follow= logically. Make sense to you? Les > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Vainshtein > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 8:47 AM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing- > extensions.all@ietf.org; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) > Subject: RE: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs > > Les, > Lots of thanks for a prompt response. > > I fully understand that the current SR extension drafts are too far adva= nced > for any significant changes. > > I also understand that Algo-specific Adj-SIDs require an update to RFC 8= 402 > because today it does not recognize any such entities. > Therefore the discussion of use cases should probably start in the SPRIN= G > WG while effective the result would be "just" new Sub-TLV in IS-IS and O= SPF > with the actual work coming to the LSR WG. > > Any ideas as to what would be the best way to start this kind of discuss= ions? > > Regards, > Sasha > > Office: +972-39266302 > Cell: +972-549266302 > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 6:37 PM > To: Alexander Vainshtein ; Peter > Psenak (ppsenak) > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing- > extensions.all@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs > > Sasha - > > draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions is currently in AD review - a= nd the > companion OSPF document has already been approved and is waiting for a > dependent draft to progress before publication as an RFC. > > It is too late to make significant changes. > > Further, while I agree with both your description and Peter's response, > agreeing that this "could" be done is not equivalent to having consensus= that > it "should" be done. > I think a more complete consideration of the deployment cases and the > usefulness of such an extension should be discussed by the WG before we > decide that we actually want to define such an extension. > > Les > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alexander Vainshtein > > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 8:29 AM > > To: Peter Psenak (ppsenak) > > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing- > > extensions.all@ietf.org > > Subject: RE: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs > > > > Peter, > > Lots of thanks for a prompt and very encouraging response. > > > > Do you think that the new Algo specific Adj-SID sub-TLV could be added= > > to the current IS-IS segment Routing Extensions draft, or should be > > handled in a small dedicated document? > > > > Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, Sasha > > > > Office: +972-39266302 > > Cell: +972-549266302 > > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter Psenak > > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 5:28 PM > > To: Alexander Vainshtein > > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing- > > extensions.all@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs > > > > Hi Sasha, > > > > On 02/03/2019 18:57 , Alexander Vainshtein wrote: > > > Peter, > > > Lots of thanks for a prompt and hivhly informative response. > > > > > > It seems that per-FlexAlgo Adj-SIDs can be useful even if they are > > > local > > __________________________________________________________ > _________________ > > This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains > information which is > CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. 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Les,
Lots of thanks, makes sense to me.

Thumb typed by Sasha Vainshtein

From: Les Ginsberg (gin= sberg) <ginsberg@cisco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 10:48:43 PM
To: Alexander Vainshtein
Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-= extensions.all@ietf.org; Peter Psenak (ppsenak)
Subject: RE: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs
 
Sasha -

Although you raise a valid issue, I am not feeling any urgency here i.e., = although the local protected use case is valid I don't see it as operation= ally critical.
However, that's just my opinion.

If you want to pursue this I think you could raise the issue in either LSR= or SPRING (or both).
The gap in the architecture documents is less important than coming to con= sensus on the importance of the use case.  If there is consensus to a= ddress this then I think deciding what documents need updating will just f= ollow logically.

Make sense to you?

   Les


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 8:47 AM
> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg@cisco.com>
> Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing- > extensions.all@ietf.org; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) <ppsenak@cisco.com= >
> Subject: RE: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs
>
> Les,
> Lots of thanks for a prompt response.
>
> I fully understand that the current SR extension drafts are too far a= dvanced
> for any significant changes.
>
> I also understand that Algo-specific Adj-SIDs require an update to RF= C 8402
> because today it does not recognize any such entities.
> Therefore the discussion of use cases should probably start in the SP= RING
> WG while effective the result would be "just" new Sub-TLV i= n IS-IS and OSPF
> with the actual work coming to the LSR WG.
>
> Any ideas as to what would be the best way to start this kind of disc= ussions?
>
> Regards,
> Sasha
>
> Office: +972-39266302
> Cell:      +972-549266302
> Email:   Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg@cisco.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 6:37 PM
> To: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>; Pe= ter
> Psenak (ppsenak) <ppsenak@cisco.com>
> Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing- > extensions.all@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs
>
> Sasha -
>
> draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions is currently in AD review = - and the
> companion OSPF document has already been approved and is waiting for = a
> dependent draft to progress before publication as an RFC.
>
> It is too late to make significant changes.
>
> Further, while I agree with both your description and Peter's respons= e,
> agreeing that this "could" be done is not equivalent to hav= ing consensus that
> it "should" be done.
> I think a more complete consideration of the deployment cases and the=
> usefulness of such an extension should be discussed by the WG before = we
> decide that we actually want to define such an extension.
>
>   Les
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com&= gt;
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 8:29 AM
> > To: Peter Psenak (ppsenak) <ppsenak@cisco.com>
> > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routi= ng-
> > extensions.all@ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs
> >
> > Peter,
> > Lots of thanks for a prompt and very encouraging response.
> >
> > Do you think that the new Algo specific Adj-SID sub-TLV could be= added
> > to the current IS-IS segment Routing Extensions draft, or should= be
> > handled in a small dedicated document?
> >
> > Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, Sasha
> >
> > Office: +972-39266302
> > Cell:      +972-549266302
> > Email:   Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Psenak <ppsenak@cisco.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 5:28 PM
> > To: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>= ;
> > Cc: lsr@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routi= ng-
> > extensions.all@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [spring] FlexAlgo and Global Adj-SIDs
> >
> > Hi Sasha,
> >
> > On 02/03/2019 18:57 , Alexander Vainshtein wrote:
> > > Peter,
> > > Lots of thanks for a prompt and hivhly informative response= .
> > >
> > > It seems that per-FlexAlgo Adj-SIDs can be useful even if t= hey are
> > > local
>
> __________________________________________________________
> _________________
>
> This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains > information which is
> CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. If you have=
> received this
> transmission in error, please inform us by e-mail, phone or fax, and = then
> delete the original
> and all copies thereof.
> __________________________________________________________
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06 Mar 2019 20:48:43 -0000 Folks, The following drafts propose improvements to SRv6: - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bonica-6man-comp-rtg-hdr/ - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bonica-6man-vpn-dest-opt/ - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bonica-6man-oam/ - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bonica-6man-seg-end-opt/ Please review and comment. 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I support the WG adoption of this draft. Few comments 1. The fact that service labels appear below path-segment should be clearly= mentioned. At the egress, multiple labels may have to be looked-up and popped for UHP = cases. This may need special hardware capability. This egress processing needs to be explained i= n the draft. 2. The ability to have a globally significant path-ID representation is ver= y useful for various accounting purposes. I believe, we should continue to have glob= ally scoped path-segment. 3. The path-segment should be pushed in a packet only when egress is capabl= e of=20 processing the path-segment. This aspect needs to be explained in this draf= t. Rgds Shraddha -----Original Message----- From: spring On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.c= om Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 2:34 PM To: SPRING WG Cc: draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment@ietf.org Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-cheng-spring-mpls-p= ath-segment Hi SPRING WG, This email initiates a two week call for working group adoption for draft-c= heng-spring-mpls-path-segment. Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dra= ft as a working group item by March 6th 2019. We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that a= re not co-authors of this draft. We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technica= l review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the = last call. Additionally, there are currently 7 authors listed on this document. Please= trim this to <=3D 5 front-page authors, utilising a "Contributors" section= if required for the others. An approach to achieving this would be to list= ~2 editors as the front-page authors. In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this documen= t. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position = on this document. (1) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__tools.ietf.org_h= tml_draft-2Dcheng-2Dspring-2Dmpls-2Dpath-2Dsegment&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63r= suhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3DNyjLsr7JA7mvpCJa0YmPdVKcmMXJ31bpbBaN= qzCNrng&m=3DfghPD_5Ecs8TYVskFZ0y6Npv0QXqX0-pLlGysClTjls&s=3Dz8A_nYKmKXm0-42= sVmn6BDxD3rSl6dJUudnCulEvofk&e=3D Thanks, --Bruno & Rob. ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou = copies sans autorisation. 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X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 5ae1af62-9505-4097-a69a-c1553ef7840e X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SN6PR11MB2941 X-OriginatorOrg: cisco.com X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 173.36.7.29, xch-aln-019.cisco.com X-Outbound-Node: rcdn-core-5.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 11:01:58 -0000 Thanks Cheng for your clarifications. -----Original Message----- From: spring On Behalf Of Chengli (Cheng Li) Sent: 07 March 2019 14:05 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; bruno.decraene@orange.com= ; SPRING WG Cc: draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-cheng-spring-mp= ls-path-segment Hi Ketan,=20 Thank you for your support and comments, please see my reply inline. Regards, Cheng -----Original Message----- From: spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ketan Talaulikar= (ketant) Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 12:20 PM To: bruno.decraene@orange.com; SPRING WG Cc: draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-cheng-spring-mp= ls-path-segment Hello, I support the adoption of this draft by the WG. I have some comments which = I would like to bring to the author's and WG though - some of these were ra= ised when this draft was presented in Bangkok but I don't see them addresse= d as yet. 1) Sec 2. A Path Segment is a single label that is assigned from the Segment Routing Local Block (SRLB) or Segment Routing Global Block (SRGB) of the egress node of an SR path. KT> Why can't the Path Segment be allocated from the dynamic MPLS label poo= l on the egress node? Can this be added as discussed in Bangkok? This mode = would help achieve a good scalability for SR Policies along with the option= of using SRLB. On the other hand, I do not understand the use-case for all= ocating Path Segments from the SRGB. If there is none, do we want to preclu= de SRGB usage for Path Segments? [Cheng] Yes, path segment can be allocated from dynamic MPLS lable pool as = we answered you at Bangkok. We will add text to specify that. Regarding SRG= B, We won't suggest to allocate path segment from SRGB due to scalability c= onsideration, but we don't stop people to do that. 2) Can the authors clarify on the relationship and usage of Path Segment wi= th Entropy label (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-spring-entrop= y-label-12)? There are examples of nested segments. Similarly, the draft co= uld use some text to discuss the MSD capabilities of the headend when enabl= ing path segment usage. [Cheng] Regarding EL, I think it can be pushed before or after path segment= , it does not matter. But we would suggest to place path segment before EL. Only need to make sure that path segment to be read by the egress node. Thus, it should be placed after the "routing segment=1B$B!J=1B(Badj/node/pr= efix=1B$B!K=1B(B" pointing to the egress node. Thanks, will add text to describe MSD. 3) This seems SR/MPLS specific to me. Is that correct? If so, why put refer= ence to SRv6 documents in there as that would create confusion? [Cheng] Correct, will delete those references. Thanks, Ketan -----Original Message----- From: spring On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.c= om Sent: 20 February 2019 14:34 To: SPRING WG Cc: draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment@ietf.org Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-cheng-spring-mpls-p= ath-segment Hi SPRING WG, This email initiates a two week call for working group adoption for draft-c= heng-spring-mpls-path-segment. Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dra= ft as a working group item by March 6th 2019. We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that a= re not co-authors of this draft. We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technica= l review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the = last call. Additionally, there are currently 7 authors listed on this document. Please= trim this to <=3D 5 front-page authors, utilising a "Contributors" section= if required for the others. An approach to achieving this would be to list= ~2 editors as the front-page authors. In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this documen= t. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position = on this document. 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From nobody Thu Mar 7 05:24:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336821286D8; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 05:24:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9PO-5x5kxXqR; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 05:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from cmccmta3.chinamobile.com (cmccmta3.chinamobile.com [221.176.66.81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0DB130EED; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 05:24:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from spf.mail.chinamobile.com (unknown[172.16.121.15]) by rmmx-syy-dmz-app11-12011 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2eeb5c811b954be-61acf; Thu, 07 Mar 2019 21:24:38 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2eeb5c811b954be-61acf X-RM-TagInfo: emlType=0 X-RM-SPAM-FLAG: 00000000 Received: from cmcc (unknown[111.32.143.113]) by rmsmtp-syy-appsvr08-12008 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee85c811b941ca-6205d; Thu, 07 Mar 2019 21:24:37 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee85c811b941ca-6205d From: "Weiqiang Cheng" To: , Cc: "'SPRING WG'" References: <31462_1550653415_5C6D17E7_31462_208_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A489DDD8F@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <27423_1551961533_5C810DBD_27423_225_3_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A055EA@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-Reply-To: <27423_1551961533_5C810DBD_27423_225_3_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A055EA@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 21:24:36 +0800 Message-ID: <000701d4d4e9$1d04f680$570ee380$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AdTI+yX+eAAuLEf1QBG2rBcwZFgn7gL5RGkwAAIrdMA= Content-Language: zh-cn Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 13:24:48 -0000 Thanks a lot. We will generate a new version with no more than 5 front-page authors. B.R. Weiqiang Cheng -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: bruno.decraene@orange.com = [mailto:bruno.decraene@orange.com]=20 =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2019=C4=EA3=D4=C27=C8=D5 20:26 =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment@ietf.org =B3=AD=CB=CD: SPRING WG =D6=F7=CC=E2: RE: Working Group Adoption Call for draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment Hi authors, WG, draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment has been accepted as a WG document. Please republish as draft-ietf-spring-mpls-path-segment with no more = than 5 front-page authors. As this is now a WG document, please engage discussions to resolve past = and future comments and update the document accordingly. 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Am looking answer for other questions as well. Can someone please reply if you can. Thanks in advance. Regards, Kaliyaperumal K On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 11:03 AM Alexander Vainshtein < Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote: > Kals, > Some short answers reflecting my personal understandings > 1. LSP Ping and Traceroute work just fine with SR-MPLS. Therefore > on-demand OAM is not a problem. > 2. There are several options for proactive OAM in SR-MPLS, including usage > of Path Segments. > 3. Prefix SIDs are NOT a replacement for BGP/MPLS IP VPNs. > > Thumb typed by Sasha Vainshtein > > ------------------------------ > *From:* spring on behalf of tech_kals Kals < > tech.kals@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 6, 2019 5:56:35 AM > *To:* ask-segment-routing@cisco.com; Stefano Previdi (sprevidi); > cfilsfil@cisco.com; Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy); Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); > Peter Psenak (ppsenak); martin.pilka@pantheon.tech; spring@ietf.org > *Subject:* [spring] Questions on Segment Routing > > Hi Experts, > > I have few questions on Segment Routing. Can you please clarify my doubts. > > 1) How OAM can be done in segment-routed networks ? > > I think, MPLS OAM is not possible with SR as network infrastructure > doesn't have any LSP state. > > With SDN controller in place, do we really need traditional OAM ? > > SDN controller can do OAM, but at what cost (like BGP-LS) ? > > > > 2) How will the traffic handoff happen from aggregate network to core > network ? > > core is running RSVP-TE, so IP handoff can be done on edge router ? > > I don't think, SDN controller can control RSVP enabled routers. So, how > it is to make end-to-end TE i..e from Aggregate router to Core Router ? > > > > 3) can prefix sid be used to replace VRF in L3VPN scenario? (or any other > way in SR can avoid vrf ?) > > Assume, on a router there are two interfaces. one is 10.1.1.0 VRF-1, > another one is VRF2-10.1.1.0. > > Which SID should I use to differentiate them? Can I use, prefix SID > in this case ? > > Is the below will work ? > > Eth1 - VRF-1: 10.1.1.0 == Prefix SID: 1000 > > Eth2 - VRF-2: 10.1.1.0 == Prefix SID: 2000 > > > > 4) How to handle multicast/broadcast using SR ? > > > > 5) SRv6 stacking ipv6 SRH might hit MTU limit somewhere in the network. > > Is my understanding correct ? > > > > 6) Does VRRP work with SR ? how fault would be propagated in a necklace > topology? > > > > 7) Is there any known issues related to interop with different vendors ? > > > 8) While programming Node-SID on MPLS ILM table, can I assume node-SID > would always be programmed with SWAP operation except on PHP node? > > > Thanks, > > __kals__ > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains > information which is > CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. 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Hi Alexander,

Thank you so much for you= r response.

Am looking answer for other questions = as well. Can someone please reply if you can.

Than= ks in advance.

Regards,
Kaliyaperumal K<= /div>



On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 11:03 AM Alexande= r Vainshtein <Alexan= der.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote:
Kals,
Some short answers reflecting my personal understandings
1. LSP Ping and Traceroute work just fine with SR-MPLS. Therefore on-demand= OAM is not a problem.
2. There are several options for proactive OAM in SR-MPLS, including usage = of Path Segments.
3. Prefix SIDs are NOT a replacement for BGP/MPLS IP VPNs.

Thumb typed by Sasha Vainshtein

From= : spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of tech_kals Kals <tech.kals@gmail.com&g= t;
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 5:56:35 AM
To: ask-segment-routing@cisco.com; Stefano Previdi (sprevidi); cfilsfil@cisco.com; Ah= med Bashandy (bashandy); Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Peter Psenak (ppsenak); m= artin.pilka@pantheon.tech; spring@ietf.org
Subject: [spring] Questions on Segment Routing
=C2=A0
Hi Experts,

I have few questions on Segment Routing. Can you please clarify my dou= bts.

1) How OAM can b= e=C2=A0done in=C2=A0segment-routed networks ?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0I think, MPLS OAM is not possible with SR as=C2=A0network infrastructure= doesn't have any LSP state.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0With SDN controller in place,=C2=A0do we really need traditiona= l OAM=C2=A0?

=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0SDN controller can do=C2=A0OAM, but at what cost (like BGP-LS) ?

=C2=A0

2) How will t= he traffic handoff happen from aggregate network to core network ?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0= core is running RSVP-TE, so=C2=A0IP handoff=C2=A0 can be done=C2=A0on edge router ?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I = don't think, SDN controller can=C2=A0control RSVP enabled=C2=A0routers.= So,=C2=A0how it is to make end-to-end=C2=A0TE i..e from Aggregate router to Core Router ?

=C2=A0

3)=C2=A0<= span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">ca= n prefix sid be used to replace VRF=C2=A0in L3VPN scenario?=C2=A0(= or any other way in SR can avoid vrf=C2=A0?)

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0Assume, on a router there are two interfaces. one is 10.1.1.0 VRF-1, = another one is VRF2-10.1.1.0.=C2=A0

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0Which SID should I use to differentiate them? Can I use, prefix SID i= n this case ?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0Is the below will work ?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0Eth1 - VRF-1: 10.1.1.0=C2=A0 =3D=3D Prefix SID: 1000

=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0Eth2 - VRF-2: 10.1.1.0=C2=A0 =3D=3D Prefix SID: 2000=C2=A0= =C2=A0

=C2=A0

4) How to handle= multicast/broadcast using SR=C2=A0?

=C2=A0

5) SRv6 stacking= ipv6 SRH might hit MTU limit somewhere in the network.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0Is my understanding correct ?

=C2=A0

6) Does=C2=A0VRR= P work=C2=A0with SR ?=C2=A0how fault would be propagated=C2=A0in a necklace= topology?=C2=A0

=C2=A0

7) Is there any = known issues related to=C2=A0interop with=C2=A0different vendors ?


8) While program= ming Node-SID on MPLS ILM table, can I assume node-SID would always be prog= rammed with SWAP operation except on PHP node?


T= hanks,

__kals__<= /p>


___________________________________________________________________________=

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[122.210.140.66]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g3sm3013838pgg.41.2019.03.09.22.24.17 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Mar 2019 22:24:18 -0800 (PST) From: "Kentaro Ebisawa" To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" , "spring@ietf.org" Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 06:24:16 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8FC5A8F7-3CE0-4706-A842-E2A5D812F504@cisco.com> References: <8FC5A8F7-3CE0-4706-A842-E2A5D812F504@cisco.com> Reply-To: "Kentaro Ebisawa" User-Agent: eM_Client/7.1.30646.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------=_MBE21D066B-2AEF-4FEF-A0B2-A64164824533" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] Flow Label in End.DX4 (draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07 X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 06:24:23 -0000 --------=_MBE21D066B-2AEF-4FEF-A0B2-A64164824533 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Pablo, Why does the hash needs to be based on the outer IPv6 header? I understand there are some cases using outer IPv6 header (especially=20 Flow Label) will be suitable. But I was not sure why we want to specifically limit the hash fields to=20 outer IPv6 in the draft, since there might be some cases you want to=20 use inner IPv4 header fields. For example, one might want to use DX4 for IPv4 over SRv6 tunnel which=20 IPv6 SA/DA would be same for all packets and thus inner IPv4 header=20 might have more entropy. Also, some hardware (ASIC/FPGA) implementation might want to chose using=20 inner IPv4 to reduce memory consumption by not keeping the already poped=20 outer IPv6 header fields or the hash calculated from it. -- Kentaro Ebisawa ------ Original Message ------ From: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" To: "ebiken.g@gmail.com" ; "spring@ietf.org"=20 Sent: 2019/03/06 18:20:59 Subject: Re: [spring] Flow Label in End.DX4=20 (draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07 >Hi Kentaro, > > > >The pseudocode is correct. The hash is based on the outer IPv6 header=20 >(SA, DA, and Flow Label) before popping it. > > > >Thanks, > >Pablo. > > > >From: spring on behalf of Kentaro Ebisawa=20 > >Reply-To: Kentaro Ebisawa >Date: Thursday, 21 February 2019 at 05:32 >To: "spring@ietf.org" >Subject: [spring] Flow Label in End.DX4=20 >(draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07 > > > >Hi > > > >In 4.9 End.DX4 (draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07), I=20 >noticed it requires Flow Label to be included in the hash in "after"=20 >poping IPv6 header. > > > > > 3. ELSE IF ENH =3D 4 ;; Ref2 > > > 4. pop the (outer) IPv6 header and its extension headers > > > 5. forward to layer-3 adjacency bound to the SID S ;; Ref3 > > ... > > > Ref3: Selected based on a hash of the packet=E2=80=99s header (at least = SA,=20 >DA, Flow Label) > > > >Since IPv6 packet is already poped, I think it might not be=20 >appropriate to mandate use of Flow Label in this case but using=20 >"identification field" for DX4. (unlike DX6) > > > >Is this intentional or just a typo when copying from DX6? > > > >Thanks, > >-- > >Kentaro Ebisawa > > > --------=_MBE21D066B-2AEF-4FEF-A0B2-A64164824533 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Pablo,

Why does the hash needs to= be based on the outer IPv6 header?

I u= nderstand there are some cases using outer IPv6 header (especially Flow Lab= el) will be suitable.
But I was not sure w= hy we want to specifically limit the hash fields to outer IPv6 in the draft= ,=C2=A0since=C2=A0there might be some cases you want =C2=A0to use inner IPv= 4 header fields.

For example, one might want to= use DX4 for IPv4 over SRv6 tunnel which IPv6 SA/DA would be same for all pa= ckets and thus inner IPv4 header might have more entropy.

<= /div>
Also, some hardware (ASIC/FPGA) implementation might want to chos= e using inner IPv4 to reduce memory consumption by not keeping the already= poped outer IPv6 header fields or the hash calculated from it.

--=C2=A0
Kentaro Ebisawa <eb= iken.g@gmail.com>

------ Original Message ------
From: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" <pcamaril@cisco.com>
To: "ebiken.g@gmail.com" <ebi= ken.g@gmail.com>; "spring@ietf.org" <spring@ietf.org>
Sent: 2019/03/06 18:20:59
Subject: Re: [spring] Flow Label in End.DX4 (draft-filsfils-spring-srv= 6-network-programming-07

Hi Kentaro,

=C2= =A0

The pseud= ocode is correct. The hash is based on the outer IPv6 header (SA, DA, and F= low Label) before popping it.

=C2= =A0

Thanks,

Pablo.

=C2= =A0

From: spri= ng <spring-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Kentaro Ebisawa <ebiken.g@gmail.com>
Reply-To: Kentaro Ebisawa <= ebiken.g@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, 21 February 2019 at 05:32
To: "spring@ietf.org" <spring@ietf.org>
Subject: [spring] Flow Label in End.DX4 (draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-= network-programming-07

=C2=A0

Hi=

=C2=A0

In = 4.9 End.DX4 (draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07), I noticed = it requires Flow Label to be included in the hash in "after" poping IPv6 h= eader.

=C2=A0

&g= t; 3. ELSE IF ENH =3D 4 ;; Ref2

&g= t; 4. pop the (outer) IPv6 header and its extension headers

&g= t; 5. forward to layer-3 adjacency bound to the SID S ;; Ref3

= =C2=A0...

&g= t; Ref3: Selected based on a hash of the packet=E2=80=99s header (at least= SA,=C2=A0DA, Flow Label)

=C2=A0

Si= nce IPv6 packet is already poped, =C2=A0I think it might not be appropriate = to mandate use of Flow Label in this case but using "identification field" = for DX4. (unlike DX6)

=C2=A0

Is = this intentional or just a typo when copying from DX6?

=C2=A0

Th= anks,

--= =C2=A0

Ke= ntaro Ebisawa <ebiken.g@gmail.com<= /a>>

=C2=A0

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Mar 2019 01:36:08 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-mpls-path-segment-00.txt X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 08:36:09 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Source Packet Routing in Networking WG of the IETF. Title : Path Segment in MPLS Based Segment Routing Network Authors : Weiqiang Cheng Han Li Mach(Guoyi) Chen Rakesh Gandhi Royi Zigler Filename : draft-ietf-spring-mpls-path-segment-00.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2019-03-10 Abstract: A Segment Routing (SR) path is identified by an SR segment list, one or partial segments of the list cannot uniquely identify the SR path. Path identification is a pre-requisite for various use-cases such as performance measurement (PM) of an SR path. This document defines a new type of segment that is referred to as Path Segment, which is used to identify an SR path. When used, it is inserted at the ingress node of the SR path and immediately follows the last segment of the SR path. The Path Segment will not be popped off until it reaches the egress node of the SR path. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bruno, Rob: We believe that the SR policy draft (draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-poli= cy-02.txt) has been discussed in the mailing list well enough, and has been= stable for quite some time. To the best of our knowledge, all comments have been addressed. Thus, we solicit WG LC on this draft. Thanks, Siva (on behalf of authors and contributors) --_000_BN8PR11MB3682EA57D52C5C2CA24BD6A9A0480BN8PR11MB3682namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Bruno, Rob:

 

We believe that the SR policy draft (draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-02.txt) has been disc= ussed in the mailing list well enough, and has been stable for quite some t= ime.

 =

To the best of our knowl= edge, all comments have been addressed.

 =

Thus,  we solicit W= G LC on this draft.

 =

Thanks,

Siva (on behalf of autho= rs and contributors)

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The changes are: - Synchronize with the updated draft-ietf-spring-sr-yang-12, which provides several shared groupings, including srgb and srlb. - Added a leaf to indicate the instance of the information source, in addition to the existing information source protocol type, to cater to the use-cases where the information is learned via different instances of the same source protocol (different instances of the same IGP). Thanks, - Xufeng On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 2:25 PM wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and > Signaling WG of the IETF. > > Title : YANG Data Model for SR and SR TE Topologies > Authors : Xufeng Liu > Igor Bryskin > Vishnu Pavan Beeram > Tarek Saad > Himanshu Shah > Stephane Litkowski > Filename : draft-ietf-teas-yang-sr-te-topo-04.txt > Pages : 31 > Date : 2019-03-11 > > Abstract: > This document defines a YANG data model for Segment Routing (SR) > topology and Segment Routing (SR) traffic engineering (TE) topology. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-sr-te-topo/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-sr-te-topo-04 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-sr-te-topo-04 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-yang-sr-te-topo-04 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --0000000000005970470583dbe532 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
TEAS and SPRING WGs:

<= /div>
An updated version of draft-ietf-teas-yang-sr-te-topo has been po= sted. The changes are:

- Synchronize with the updated draft-ietf-spr= ing-sr-yang-12, which provides several shared groupings, including srgb and= srlb.

- Added a leaf to indicate the instance of the informa= tion source, in addition to the existing information source protocol type, = to cater to the use-cases where the information is learned via different in= stances of the same source protocol (different instances of the same IGP). =

Thanks,
- Xufeng

=

= On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 2:25 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signa= ling WG of the IETF.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= YANG Data Model for SR and SR TE Topologies
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Xufe= ng Liu
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Igor Bryskin
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Vishnu Pavan Beeram
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Tarek Saad
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Himanshu Shah
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Stephane Litkowski
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet= f-teas-yang-sr-te-topo-04.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= 31
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2019-03-11

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document defines a YANG data model for Segment Routing (S= R)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0topology and Segment Routing (SR) traffic engineering (TE) top= ology.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/dr= aft-ietf-teas-yang-sr-te-topo/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf= -teas-yang-sr-te-topo-04
https://datatracker.ietf.org= /doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-sr-te-topo-04

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?u= rl2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-yang-sr-te-topo-04


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

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Hi experts,<= /span>


Would like to know which SID can be used f= or the interfaces which are having same IP address and have different VRFs.=


Assume there are two interfaces on the same route= r.=C2=A0

Both are hav= ing same IP address and they are differentiated using VRF.

So, the config looks as shown below.<= /span>


eth1 ----> VRF1: 20.1.1.1/24

e= th2 ----> VRF2: 20.1.1.1/24=C2= =A0=C2=A0


Which SID can be used to represen= t these links ? Can we use AdjSID ?


<= font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif">Thanks,

Kaliyaperumal K

--000000000000c6c2c80583df10c0-- From nobody Mon Mar 11 22:36:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4668130EF2 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:36:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.997 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.997 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6eVG9EOlWz8L for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io1-xd41.google.com (mail-io1-xd41.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE3731312A0 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd41.google.com with SMTP id p17so996035iol.7 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:36:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=G6YrAKzs8+14EdCn4ihtO/OvLiQZILQay0/pXiOt+Go=; b=aSY06pwRCLckm23zKfzNE/RI52osQdCZFRpMYOsUatAUPCsLkWZOa7/JIYvTkgQnre wLIG8TL61PlELvIJ3MHt4oRUt1aAUhtOSIuSLM02gcSCiOBfLJnV13PBBxzYYBk7F302 y4QPitrUbcAYM8YUzwIh5JAG+A+vQCDS0FurEQXhxK9o2JCIcuP9YJAibXyxGP4VYZ2z QuAToz4oZPZ1VeXRSr+GeU6bTGrLug/aKNUdg815SX2FuPVyriZkuWfpVlAQlxtY1bMj XQSzEL40ipu43TqlDWPxF/8IWVKkejKy18v0k3gf8SB5jPIkFhs5l3RZnCAX2CtkkftW f/+g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=G6YrAKzs8+14EdCn4ihtO/OvLiQZILQay0/pXiOt+Go=; b=tsVsHqBbGNjn71QdAKJGzBj6YiFWSqnhpGxQUpEafAWkVQwrDKSUUPXn5srAJAybe5 u14K/E+xGcmLbFKriE0ARr17NKLAxZqhJ+8q6XGdttUcR6pqxBNzbx+IH3f1ealsVzyD JmoGU/av8THgkG9lNrf8YuUFjaQw+BjzFF/FREV13q2jJkkDT3soe6ODscpFiTGvJ5BW /CmAilcOnSkHX745Sc89XFW1FPzCm9kfWr581eoe3VC/hQshubobnEae6F6KWhLkfki1 SqIRp2BXhPvAmbZntxRv2FXTggKbMmKw3EFVwFhYVPMrhEOoAEgDm83CYxo+f/UOoOM7 2FPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWoYiVoJXx69Xt0hQYIEmnc4aMWKHySXqgFOqGH3J1IHWvVZrsk sDpfBnlf4d9KNydnbCyIzmd4p/IIISB2bjG3L9w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxkkoS8utoCdzvjNwwjdb7EXm5Zl22zeu+QsO+XZzJyrj364R1bLiR+TI7ZtHMstgdfws9u4XT7m6Bp0juaq+k= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:c545:: with SMTP id v66mr20002594iof.40.1552368965958; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:36:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: tech_kals Kals Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:04:52 +0530 Message-ID: To: cfilsfil@cisco.com, martin.pilka@pantheon.tech, spring@ietfa.amsl.com, ask-segment-routing@cisco.com, "Stefano Previdi (sprevidi)" , "Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy)" , "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" , "Peter Psenak (ppsenak)" , "spring@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c6c2c80583df10c0" Archived-At: Subject: [spring] Which SID is used to represent links when both of them have same IP address. X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 05:36:14 -0000 --000000000000c6c2c80583df10c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi experts, Would like to know which SID can be used for the interfaces which are having same IP address and have different VRFs. Assume there are two interfaces on the same router. Both are having same IP address and they are differentiated using VRF. So, the config looks as shown below. eth1 ----> VRF1: 20.1.1.1/24 eth2 ----> VRF2: 20.1.1.1/24 Which SID can be used to represent these links ? Can we use AdjSID ? Thanks, Kaliyaperumal K --000000000000c6c2c80583df10c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi experts,<= /span>


Would like to know which SID can be used f= or the interfaces which are having same IP address and have different VRFs.=


Assume there are two interfaces on the same route= r.=C2=A0

Both are hav= ing same IP address and they are differentiated using VRF.

So, the config looks as shown below.<= /span>


eth1 ----> VRF1: 20.1.1.1/24

e= th2 ----> VRF2: 20.1.1.1/24=C2= =A0=C2=A0


Which SID can be used to represen= t these links ? Can we use AdjSID ?


<= font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif">Thanks,

Kaliyaperumal K

--000000000000c6c2c80583df10c0-- From nobody Tue Mar 12 07:28:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43037129AA0; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 07:28:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OhxD4jHhW2OJ; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 07:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D0211275F3; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 07:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LHREML714-CAH.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 07E463084440C9F92A0B; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:28:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML414-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.75) by LHREML714-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.37) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:28:13 +0000 Received: from NKGEML514-MBX.china.huawei.com ([fe80::40a8:f0d:c0f3:2ca5]) by nkgeml414-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.75]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 22:28:01 +0800 From: Xiejingrong To: "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming.authors@ietf.org" CC: "spring@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: One comment on Thread-Index: AdTY34uljZsV/UqSQu2PvIQnyIllTQ== Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:28:00 +0000 Message-ID: <16253F7987E4F346823E305D08F9115AAB83CDDC@nkgeml514-mbx.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.45.173.123] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_16253F7987E4F346823E305D08F9115AAB83CDDCnkgeml514mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: [spring] One comment on X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:28:18 -0000 --_000_16253F7987E4F346823E305D08F9115AAB83CDDCnkgeml514mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear authors of : Thanks for introducing this great concept about how to develop the 128-bit = IPv6 address. One comment/question: Next header value 59 is used when an Ethernet-packet is as the IPv6 payload= in SRv6-L2VPN scenario. It is confusing, because 59 is generally used to indicate that there is *no= * payload after the IPv6 header and the extension headers. RFC4380 has such= an example. Though RFC8200 allow a packet with Next Header 59 with some payload, but it= is not the normal case. For example, a firewall, or acl rules on a legacy router may drop a packet = with next header 59. The IP/IPv6 should use Next Header to indicate the payload format *explicit= ly* as its original paradigm. This document also has a good example to use this correctly: Next Header value 4/41 for IPv4/IPv6 payload in SRv6-L3VPN like End.DT4 or = End.DT6. Should this value 59 be changed to TBD and be allocated from IANA officiall= y? Does the words "we conveniently reuse the next-header value 59" in the docu= ment imply this work ? Thanks Jingrong --_000_16253F7987E4F346823E305D08F9115AAB83CDDCnkgeml514mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear authors of <srv6-networ= k-programming>:

 

Thanks for introducing this gre= at concept about how to develop the 128-bit IPv6 address.=

 

One comment/question:

Next header value 59 is used wh= en an Ethernet-packet is as the IPv6 payload in SRv6-L2VPN scenario.

It is confusing, because 59 is = generally used to indicate that there is *no* payload after the IPv6 header= and the extension headers. RFC4380 has such an example.<= /p>

Though RFC8200 allow a packet w= ith Next Header 59 with some payload, but it is not the normal case.

For example, a firewall, or acl= rules on a legacy router may drop a packet with next header 59.=

The IP/IPv6 should use Next Hea= der to indicate the payload format *explicitly* as its original paradigm.

This document also has a good e= xample to use this correctly:

Next Header value 4/41 for IPv4= /IPv6 payload in SRv6-L3VPN like End.DT4 or End.DT6.

 

Should this value 59 be changed= to TBD and be allocated from IANA officially?

Does the words "we conveni= ently reuse the next-header value 59" in the document imply this work = ?

 

Thanks

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Tue, 12 Mar 2019 17:31:23 +0000 Message-ID: To: tech_kals Kals Cc: martin.pilka@pantheon.tech, ask-segment-routing@cisco.com, spring@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008d07b80583e90f63" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] Which SID is used to represent links when both of them have same IP address. X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 17:31:43 -0000 --0000000000008d07b80583e90f63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Brief answer below: Each vrf can be steered into a sr policy. In the sr policy you can use prefix or adj sids or combination. There is no much mystery if you know RSVP TE well. A sr policy gives similar capabilities of a RSVP TE tunnel but aimed to be simplified without maintaining signaling status along the path. SR aims to be simplified. You can also steer traffic into different sr policies per destination ip or even more criterias. Cheers, Tim On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, 05:36 tech_kals Kals, wrote: > Hi experts, > > > Would like to know which SID can be used for the interfaces which are > having same IP address and have different VRFs. > > > Assume there are two interfaces on the same router. > > Both are having same IP address and they are differentiated using VRF. > > So, the config looks as shown below. > > > eth1 ----> VRF1: 20.1.1.1/24 > > eth2 ----> VRF2: 20.1.1.1/24 > > > Which SID can be used to represent these links ? Can we use AdjSID ? > > > Thanks, > > Kaliyaperumal K > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > --0000000000008d07b80583e90f63 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
Brief answer below:
Each vrf can be steered into a sr policy.
In th= e sr policy you can use prefix or adj sids or combination.
There is no much mystery if you know RSVP TE well. A sr policy gives= similar capabilities of a RSVP TE tunnel but aimed to be simplified withou= t maintaining signaling status along the path. SR aims to be simplified.
You can also steer traffic into different sr policies = per destination ip or even more criterias.=C2=A0
Che= ers,
Tim


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Hi Experts,


I just want to know how=C2=A0will the traffic hando= ff happen from aggregate network to core network ?

Assume, core is running RSVP-TE, so=C2=A0IP handoff=C2= =A0 can be done=C2=A0on edge router ?=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0


I don't = think, SDN controller can=C2=A0control RSVP enabled=C2=A0routers. So,=C2=A0= how it is to make end-to-end=C2=A0TE i.e from Aggregate router to Cor= e Router ?


Thanks,

__kals__

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Hi experts,

Am so curious to know about= how OAM can be supported on=C2=A0segment-routing networks ?


I think, MPLS OAM is not possible with= SR as=C2=A0network infrastructure doesn't have any LSP state.


With SDN controller in place,=C2=A0d= o we really need traditional OAM=C2=A0?=C2=A0

Assume, SDN controller can identify the issue on the network, and it = can configure an alternate path on the defected node.


If SDN controller can d= o=C2=A0OAM, but at what cost (like BGP-LS) ?


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__Kals__


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Please find observations on draft-ietf-6man-segment-= routing-header-16

 

  1. Section 8.1 Segment Routing Header= Flags Register why we need this bit for HMAC ? we should remove this secti= on from this draft

 

Suggested Description Reference

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4         HMAC    &= nbsp;    This document

 

  1. Better to mention Last Entry field usage= apart from validation (to determine the starting location of the TLVs)

 

Thanks

Rajesh

 

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1) SRv6 Endpoint Function: 2 octets. As defined in [I-D.filsfils-spring-srv6-n= etwork-programming] Legal function values for this sub-TLV are defined in Section 7. This should be Section 8 I think, section 8 contains Advertising Endpoint B= ehaviors. Al reference to section 7 , we must change to section 8 (4 places) 2) SRv6 Endpoint Function already mentions Endpoint Function Types. SID usually will be a combination of Locator:Function:ARGS. Since SID already contains Function, why there is a need for additional SRv= 6 Endpoint Function field ? 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1)

SRv6 Endpoint Function: 2 octets= . As defined in [I-D.filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming]

Legal function values for this sub-TLV are defined in Sect= ion 7.

 

This should be Section 8 I think, section 8 contains Advertising End= point Behaviors.

Al reference to section 7 , we must change to section 8 (4 places)

 

2)

 

SRv6 Endpoint Function already mention= s Endpoint Function Types.

 

SID usually will be a combination of Locator:= Function:ARGS.

 

Since SID already contains Function, why there is a need for addi= tional SRv6 Endpoint Function field ? Am I missing something.

 

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| SID (cont . . .) |

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| SID (cont . . .) |

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--_000_BYAPR05MB4821A77F5EAEC9C0F63349CABE4A0BYAPR05MB4821namp_-- From nobody Wed Mar 13 05:42:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D79130F0B; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 05:42:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.602 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.602 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BXmm-H0vvQa1; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 05:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-2.cisco.com (aer-iport-2.cisco.com [173.38.203.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 481A2130FE5; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 05:42:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1592; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1552480967; x=1553690567; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date: mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t9/OBh+xWYTgSI4ihOGT0MGyOfFHj5kThtz/hlK4KnI=; b=asjp/kftQfMOwxEO6Q4oyek47ZJuD+IqHabZP2ozJ9JTsFTAu1OEDlFG mWTyNY2dg236FE46zEb3K0OKYsefDCkUb4r4y0bB7pITPElhlOoZyh2bH NvAa7T+Rsm+mkDaeszRa1iH6heN+GrRHCReYnU3imbYiCaerU/MuJN19D g=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.58,474,1544486400"; d="scan'208";a="10716747" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-1.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA; 13 Mar 2019 12:42:45 +0000 Received: from [10.147.24.38] ([10.147.24.38]) by aer-core-1.cisco.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x2DCgiif021047; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 12:42:45 GMT To: Rajesh M , "cfilsfil@cisco.com" , "abashandy.ietf@gmail.com" , "bruno.decraene@orange.com" , "huzhibo@huawei.com" References: Cc: Ron Bonica , SPRING WG , "ipv6@ietf.org" From: Peter Psenak Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 13:42:43 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 10.147.24.38, [10.147.24.38] X-Outbound-Node: aer-core-1.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] draft-bashandy-isis-srv6-extensions-05.txt X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 12:42:54 -0000 Hi Rajesh, On 13/03/2019 07:02 , Rajesh M wrote: > 1) > > SRv6 Endpoint Function: 2 octets. As defined in > [I-D.filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming] > > Legal function values for this sub-TLV are defined in Section 7. > > > > This should be Section 8 I think, section 8 contains Advertising > Endpoint Behaviors. > > Al reference to section 7 , we must change to section 8 (4 places) > fair enough, will fix that in the next version. > > > 2) > > > > SRv6 Endpoint Function already mentions Endpoint Function Types. > > > > SIDusually will be a combination of Locator:Function:ARGS. > > > > Since SID already contains Function, why there is a need for additional > SRv6 Endpoint Function field ? Am I missing something. SRv6 Endpoint Function represents the behavior, which comes from "SRv6 Endpoint Behaviors Registry". That value is not present in the 128 bits SID value, which is locally assigned by the advertising node. thanks, Peter > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | Flags | SRv6 Endpoint Function | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | SID (128 bits) . . . | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | SID (cont . . .) | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | SID (cont . . .) | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | SID (cont . . .) | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > From nobody Wed Mar 13 11:49:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDD8130F46; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:49:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h1SjEaB7eXRR; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orange.com (mta136.mail.business.static.orange.com [80.12.70.36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C921130F26; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opfednr05.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.69]) by opfednr26.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 44KLVM4swRzyvc; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:49:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme6.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.13.82]) by opfednr05.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 44KLVM3rBrzyQ9; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:49:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::b846:2467:1591:5d9d]) by OPEXCAUBM5E.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::849f:f804:b713:d99a%21]) with mapi id 14.03.0439.000; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:49:31 +0100 From: To: SPRING WG CC: "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming Thread-Index: AdTZy78VsE+8X4JtQm2GPnG5Q8GtmQ== Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 18:49:31 +0000 Message-ID: <22596_1552502971_5C8950BB_22596_34_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.114.13.247] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771OPEXCAUBM43corp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 18:49:39 -0000 --_000_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771OPEXCAUBM43corp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi SPRING WG, This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for draft= -filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. 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Hi SPRING WG,
 
This email init=
iates a three week call for working group adoption for draft-filsfils-sprin=
g-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the IETF week)=

 
Please indicate=
 your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this draft as a working=
 group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03)
We are particul=
arly interested in hearing from working group members that are not co-autho=
rs of this draft.
 
We are also loo=
king for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technical review of thi=
s work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the last call.=

 
In parallel to =
this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this document. We will need=
 all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position on this documen=
t.
There is curren=
tly 1 IPR filled (2)
 
(1)  <=
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srv6-network-programming-07
(2)  <=
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ker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programmin=
g&submit=3Ddraft
 
 
Thank you,=

--Bruno & Rob.

 

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--_000_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771OPEXCAUBM43corp_-- From nobody Wed Mar 13 11:50:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C428E130FC7; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:50:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SZIN2ttuca2K; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orange.com (mta239.mail.business.static.orange.com [80.12.66.39]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9357A130F50; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opfedar05.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.7]) by opfedar27.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 44KLVx0f34z2xgQ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:50:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme6.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.13.64]) by opfedar05.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 44KLVw6sBzz2xCD; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:50:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::b846:2467:1591:5d9d]) by OPEXCAUBMA3.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::90fe:7dc1:fb15:a02b%21]) with mapi id 14.03.0439.000; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:50:00 +0100 From: To: SPRING WG CC: "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming Thread-Index: AdTZy1D2mUjAURp0TKqNc4AXeLzDEg== Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 18:50:00 +0000 Message-ID: <32033_1552503001_5C8950D8_32033_150_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A187A7@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.114.13.247] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A187A7OPEXCAUBM43corp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [spring] IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 18:50:08 -0000 --_000_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A187A7OPEXCAUBM43corp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi authors, SPRING WG, In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network= -programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR. If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-= programming please respond to this email. If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed in a= ccordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provide more = details). If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email regardle= ss of whether or not you're aware of any IPR. If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond only if = you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed. This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confirmatio= ns have been received from all authors and contributors. Thank you, (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-program= ming-07 --Bruno & Rob. ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu= ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages el= ectroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou = falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged inf= ormation that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and dele= te this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been = modified, changed or falsified. Thank you. --_000_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A187A7OPEXCAUBM43corp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
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--_000_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A187A7OPEXCAUBM43corp_-- From nobody Wed Mar 13 12:31:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietf.org Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA684131137; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 12:31:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.94.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <155250547695.24853.16044212077204780026.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 12:31:16 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [spring] The SPRING WG has placed draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:31:17 -0000 The SPRING WG has placed draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Bruno Decraene) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming/ Comment: IPR call: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/ewznLZ_nIkkLyeOL76QU7ENr6Fs Adoption call: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/Fr8RtiWt-tLjHtWnhPkhCAPmesM From nobody Wed Mar 13 12:48:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AA71310CA; 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13 Mar 2019 19:48:10 +0000 Received: from [10.60.140.54] (ams-ppsenak-nitro5.cisco.com [10.60.140.54]) by aer-core-4.cisco.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x2DJm82i003922; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:48:09 GMT To: bruno.decraene@orange.com, SPRING WG References: <22596_1552502971_5C8950BB_22596_34_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Cc: "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" From: Peter Psenak Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 20:48:08 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <22596_1552502971_5C8950BB_22596_34_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 10.60.140.54, ams-ppsenak-nitro5.cisco.com X-Outbound-Node: aer-core-4.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:48:16 -0000 I support the working group adoption. Peter On 13/03/2019 19:49 , bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote: > Hi SPRING WG, > > > > This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for > draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account > for the IETF week) > > > > Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this > draft as a working group item by April, 3^rd , 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) > > We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members > that are not co-authors of this draft. > > > > We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a > technical review of this work at some later stage, such as before or > during WG the last call. > > > > In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this > document. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR > position on this document. > > There is currently 1 IPR filled (2) > > > > (1) > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07 > > (2) > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=draft > > > > > > Thank you, > > --Bruno & Rob. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. 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We are particularly interested in hearing from wo=
rking group members that are not co-authors of this draft.
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We are also looking for volunteers who would be r=
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s before or during WG the last call.
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There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)=

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X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM5PR21MB0699 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 20:35:38 -0000 --_000_DM5PR21MB018614F41B0B0029FCAB453DCA4A0DM5PR21MB0186namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support. pdm From: spring On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.c= om Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 11:50 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv= 6-network-programming Hi SPRING WG, This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for draft= -filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the = IETF week) Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dra= ft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that a= re not co-authors of this draft. We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technica= l review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the = last call. In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this documen= t. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position = on this document. 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Hi SPRING WG,
 
This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for =
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 the IETF week)
 
Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting thi=
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We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a tec=
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 the last call.
 
In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this do=
cument. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR posi=
tion on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)
 
(1)  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming=
-07
(2)  https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=
=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=3Ddraft
 
 
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Hi SPRING WG,
 
This email initiates a three week call for working grou=
p adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three wee=
ks to account for the IET=46 week)
 
Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, f=
or adopting this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, =
2019 (aka 2019-04-03)
We are particularly interested in hearing from working =
group members that are not co-authors of this draft.
 
We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready t=
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fore or during WG the last call.
 
In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR c=
all for this document. We will need all authors and contributors to confi=
rm their IPR position on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)
 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/dr=
aft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07
https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/=3Fid=3Ddraft-filsfils-spri=
ng-srv6-network-programming&submit=3Ddraft
 
 
Thank y=
ou,
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Les From: spring On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.c= om Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 11:50 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv= 6-network-programming Hi SPRING WG, This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for draft= -filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the = IETF week) Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dra= ft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that a= re not co-authors of this draft. We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technica= l review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the = last call. In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this documen= t. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position = on this document. There is currently 1 IPR filled (2) (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-program= ming-07 (2) https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-sr= v6-network-programming&submit=3Ddraft Thank you, --Bruno & Rob. ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu= ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages el= ectroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou = falsifie. Merci. 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Support.

 

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From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> = On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 11:50 AM
To: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org
Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spr= ing-srv6-network-programming

 

Hi SPRING WG,
 
This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for =
draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for=
 the IETF week)
 
Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting thi=
s draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04=
-03)
We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members t=
hat are not co-authors of this draft.
 
We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a tec=
hnical review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG=
 the last call.
 
In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this do=
cument. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR posi=
tion on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)
 
(1)  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-pr=
ogramming-07
(2)  https://datatracker.ietf.org/ip=
r/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=3D=
draft
 
 
Thank you,
--Bruno & Rob.

 

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(Three weeks to account for the IETF week) > > > > Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) > > We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that are not co-authors of this draft. > > > > We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technical review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the last call. > > > > In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this document. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position on this document. > > There is currently 1 IPR filled (2) > > > > (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07 > > (2) https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=draft > > > > > > Thank you, > > --Bruno & Rob. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. 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Support the WG adoption=C2=A0

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On Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 8:49 PM <bruno.decraene@orange.com> wrote:
Hi SPRING WG,
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This email initiates a three week call for workin=
g group adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three=
 weeks to account for the IETF week)
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Please indicate your support, comments, or object=
ion, for adopting this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03)
We are particularly interested in hearing from wo=
rking group members that are not co-authors of this draft.
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We are also looking for volunteers who would be r=
eady to perform a technical review of this work at some later stage, such a=
s before or during WG the last call.
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In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an=
 IPR call for this document. We will need all authors and contributors to c=
onfirm their IPR position on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)=

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(1)=C2=A0 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-pro=
gramming-07
(2)=C2=A0 https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr=
/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=3Dd=
raft
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Thank you,
--Bruno & Rob.

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Gaurav Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 13, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar) wrote: >=20 > Support. >=20 > Regards, > Nagendra >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn 3/13/19, 3:31 PM, "spring on behalf of IETF Secretariat" wrote: >=20 >=20 > The SPRING WG has placed draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming= in > state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Bruno Decraene) >=20 > The document is available at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-pro= gramming/ >=20 > Comment: > IPR call: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/ewznLZ_nIkkLyeOL76QU7ENr6Fs= >=20 > Adoption call: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/Fr8RtiWt-tLjHtWnhPkhCAPmes= M >=20 > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring From nobody Wed Mar 13 15:27:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414BC1311FE; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 15:27:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mx4_JzroTx3G; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 15:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pg1-x534.google.com (mail-pg1-x534.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::534]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80AB9127982; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 15:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pg1-x534.google.com with SMTP id v12so2540917pgq.1; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 15:27:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=3xddjViaogv+8zKA5eVDN9kUsZ10JwI+FCRUnf+UvFo=; b=CEOUBlkZ6NgIMXA6Tkm/MeMssxp7ZJU4DW29q7Z3PtUg2ugTkfLNMDSUwzxd0xPVFF HQVBoCUxwWSMtrUaAjO2v1GdV7+BQuQjj5kiBpKNYJfBJHKUe0TKjLpzIis6Olh0xehd PpcBzJhhc24O6Z1HgEq4o4lQkaia/rFZ6J016FhlSidzTVD/fH+TMaaCgGkeoiz+t0zm /vklZdyE/44N0LFlth9uXPUSX6bbpmCgsqxaYMMagGVsj23pH6gqZFfUEYraFMIBMkhB QLg5LrZk5Ov9vWEnq0cS5dFxjMZPN/kRFWHsTjwyG4BcyuZMbRTQrN9xvV+lvHVLV5G3 I+yw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=3xddjViaogv+8zKA5eVDN9kUsZ10JwI+FCRUnf+UvFo=; b=bbPkwAq6B9/SjqF0vio1ydtq51/2vmLtISCs+X+EOYWzPDJKcxwNao+S4gUh6PwFEX nbzWPGBCXOkSymQpLN1t6tVbutNOzwa0rXXz4e7wBBb5az3HcsfNX2pWo4PWPP9m91Cu N2Cg75cJuLRj5dUtKAdzU3OpP8n/IXOVUQKh64rFW5ZoB/v/InsTslA7NFWs+QwKeuRW cGvkEiPBiYj9iN/5vU4fAdPYbvfE5UAoAiTACaXM5pf3Gxz0Rly0IycGtTOjQBliUI/J CpEegT0scwp2GLxnRbvO8gJlQGwXgZq+z/sFm8jknl/IPOrNiXU6/ygMIsPrlNNYxEFt 0m7Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVULI+PhVm4nu9Fzj98GIdJhzFpr+IYsUEo5HewlMoB/PpF3gkE jMUeDqgpXB7JtxaYw9PBy5VqPpC2 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqznXE85eumYcwTKDKFmilUv9rI3MJNzUjj9gE40ItLjNftRP6OPf6t7gBrS0vYG4ru/EiUSkQ== X-Received: by 2002:a62:1e82:: with SMTP id e124mr46375490pfe.258.1552516056427; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 15:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2620:119:5002:1003:e1d0:43f5:e7c7:aaa5? 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(Three weeks to account for the I= ETF week) > =20 > Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dr= aft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) > We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that a= re not co-authors of this draft. > =20 > We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technic= al review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the l= ast call. > =20 > In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this docume= nt. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position o= n this document. > There is currently 1 IPR filled (2) > =20 > (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-progra= mming-07 > (2) https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-s= rv6-network-programming&submit=3Ddraft > =20 > =20 > Thank you, > --Bruno & Rob. > =20 > __________________________________________________________________________= _______________________________________________ > =20 > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confide= ntielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez rec= u ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages e= lectroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou= falsifie. Merci. > =20 > This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged in= formation that may be protected by law; > they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. > If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and del= ete this message and its attachments. > As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been= modified, changed or falsified. > Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring --Apple-Mail-C82EA4F0-3E2A-4005-BADE-0B549AD0CDA3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Support

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From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 11:50 AM
To: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org
Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming

 

Hi SPRING WG,
 
This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the IETF week)
 
Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03)
We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that are not co-authors of this draft.
 
We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technical review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the last call.
 
In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this document. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)
 
(1)  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07
(2)  https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=draft
 
 
Thank you,
--Bruno & Rob.

 

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2019 19:46:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:46:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "john leddy.net" Reply-To: "john leddy.net" To: bruno.decraene@orange.com, SPRING WG Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org Message-ID: <1031841123.285858.1552520782989@webmail.networksolutionsemail.com> In-Reply-To: <32033_1552503001_5C8950D8_32033_150_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A187A7@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <32033_1552503001_5C8950D8_32033_150_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A187A7@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_285857_1601523814.1552520782969" X-Priority: 3 Importance: Medium X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.8.4-Rev41 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 23:46:29 -0000 ------=_Part_285857_1601523814.1552520782969 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am not aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming John Leddy > On March 13, 2019 at 2:50 PM bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote: > > > Hi authors, SPRING WG, > > > > > > > In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR. > > > > > > > If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming please respond to this email. > > > If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provide more details). > > > > > > > If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR. > > > If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond only if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed. > > > > > > > This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confirmations have been received from all authors and contributors. > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07 > > > > > > > > > > > --Bruno & Rob. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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I am not aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming


John Leddy

On March 13, 2019 at 2:50 PM bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote: 

Hi authors, SPRING WG,
      
      
        
      
In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR.
      
      
        
      
If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming please respond to this email.
      
If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provide more details).
      
      
        
      
If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR.
      
If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond only if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed.
      
      
        
      
This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confirmations have been received from all authors and contributors.
      
      
        
      
Thank you,
      
      
        
      
(1)  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07
      
      
        
      
      
        
      
--Bruno & Rob.

 

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From:<= /span> spring [mailto:spring= -bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 2:50 AM
To: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org
Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spr= ing-srv6-network-programming

 

Hi SPRING WG,
 
This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for =
draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for=
 the IETF week)
 
Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting thi=
s draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04=
-03)
We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members t=
hat are not co-authors of this draft.
 
We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a tec=
hnical review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG=
 the last call.
 
In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this do=
cument. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR posi=
tion on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)
 
(1)  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-pr=
ogramming-07
(2)  https://datatracker.ietf.org/ip=
r/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=3D=
draft
 
 
Thank you,
--Bruno & Rob.

 

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--_000_19AB2A007F56DB4E8257F949A2FB9858DC598095NKGEML515MBXchi_-- From nobody Wed Mar 13 18:28:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CC5126D00; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 18:28:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3vsygLhW_Laa; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 18:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47460124B19; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 18:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id AC338B2CF8CD3ACBF83B; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 01:27:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML411-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.70) by lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 01:27:58 +0000 Received: from NKGEML514-MBX.china.huawei.com ([fe80::40a8:f0d:c0f3:2ca5]) by nkgeml411-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.70]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 09:27:48 +0800 From: Xiejingrong To: "bruno.decraene@orange.com" , SPRING WG CC: "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming Thread-Index: AdTZy78VsE+8X4JtQm2GPnG5Q8GtmQAOKiGQ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 01:27:48 +0000 Message-ID: <16253F7987E4F346823E305D08F9115AAB83F5DC@nkgeml514-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <22596_1552502971_5C8950BB_22596_34_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-Reply-To: <22596_1552502971_5C8950BB_22596_34_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.217.214] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_16253F7987E4F346823E305D08F9115AAB83F5DCnkgeml514mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 01:28:05 -0000 --_000_16253F7987E4F346823E305D08F9115AAB83F5DCnkgeml514mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I Support the adoption but I also have a comment. The Next Header value 59 used in SRv6-L2VPN scenario should be a new value = applied from IANA officially. Please find in the WG mail list my comment yesterday. Thanks Jingrong From: spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@o= range.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 2:50 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv= 6-network-programming Hi SPRING WG, This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for draft= -filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the = IETF week) Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dra= ft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that a= re not co-authors of this draft. 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I Support the adoption but I also have= a comment.

The Next Header value 59 used in SRv6-= L2VPN scenario should be a new value applied from IANA officially.

Please find in the WG mail list my com= ment yesterday.

 

Thanks

Jingrong

From: spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 2:50 AM
To: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org
Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spr= ing-srv6-network-programming

 

Hi SPRING WG,
 
This email initiates a three week call for workin=
g group adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three=
 weeks to account for the IETF week)
 
Please indicate your support, comments, or object=
ion, for adopting this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03)
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rking group members that are not co-authors of this draft.
 
We are also looking for volunteers who would be r=
eady to perform a technical review of this work at some later stage, such a=
s before or during WG the last call.
 
In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an=
 IPR call for this document. We will need all authors and contributors to c=
onfirm their IPR position on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)
 
(1)  <=
/span>https://tools.ie=
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(2)  <=
/span>https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsf=
ils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=3Ddraft
 
 
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Ths Zhibo Hu From: spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@o= range.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 2:50 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv= 6-network-programming Hi SPRING WG, This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for draft= -filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the = IETF week) Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dra= ft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that a= re not co-authors of this draft. We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technica= l review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the = last call. In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this documen= t. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position = on this document. There is currently 1 IPR filled (2) (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-program= ming-07 (2) https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-sr= v6-network-programming&submit=3Ddraft Thank you, --Bruno & Rob. ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu= ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages el= ectroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou = falsifie. Merci. 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Support!

 

Ths

Zhibo Hu

 

From: spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 2:50 AM
To: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org
Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spr= ing-srv6-network-programming

 

Hi SPRING WG,
 
This email initiates a three week call for workin=
g group adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three=
 weeks to account for the IETF week)
 
Please indicate your support, comments, or object=
ion, for adopting this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03)
We are particularly interested in hearing from wo=
rking group members that are not co-authors of this draft.
 
We are also looking for volunteers who would be r=
eady to perform a technical review of this work at some later stage, such a=
s before or during WG the last call.
 
In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an=
 IPR call for this document. We will need all authors and contributors to c=
onfirm their IPR position on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)
 
(1)  <=
/span>https://tools.ie=
tf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07
(2)  <=
/span>https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsf=
ils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=3Ddraft
 
 
Thank you,
--Bruno & Rob.

 

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Support the WG adoption.

 

Thanks,

Shuping

 

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Subject: [spring] IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-pr= ogramming

 

Hi authors, SPRING WG,
 
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twork-programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR.
 
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ardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR.
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y if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed.
 
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mations have been received from all authors and contributors.

 


Thank you,


 


(1)  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-pr=
ogramming-07


 


 


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--_000_4278D47A901B3041A737953BAA078ADE1475B0D5DGGEML532MBXchi_-- From nobody Wed Mar 13 19:11:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735E313119D; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:11:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EA04iReVDFHM; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D0F113117B; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml706-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 036EB3B0F6B9BBD26566; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:10:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from DGGEML402-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.3.17.38) by lhreml706-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.47) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:10:58 +0000 Received: from DGGEML529-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.6.70]) by DGGEML402-HUB.china.huawei.com ([fe80::fca6:7568:4ee3:c776%31]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:10:48 +0800 From: "Chengli (Cheng Li)" To: "bruno.decraene@orange.com" , SPRING WG CC: "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming Thread-Index: AdTZy78VsE+8X4JtQm2GPnG5Q8GtmQAPjyfQ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:10:47 +0000 Message-ID: References: <22596_1552502971_5C8950BB_22596_34_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-Reply-To: <22596_1552502971_5C8950BB_22596_34_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.130.185.75] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C7C2E1C43D652C4E9E49FE7517C236CB025A4983dggeml529mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:11:03 -0000 --_000_C7C2E1C43D652C4E9E49FE7517C236CB025A4983dggeml529mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support. The solution defined in this document has been implemented by several vendo= rs and open source data plane, and I think it is ready to be adopted for better help on implementation. My comments regarding USD/PSP/USP have been addressed, hope to see the corr= ect text in the next version. Thanks, Cheng From: spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@o= range.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 2:50 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv= 6-network-programming Hi SPRING WG, This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for draft= -filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the = IETF week) Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dra= ft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that a= re not co-authors of this draft. We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technica= l review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the = last call. In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this documen= t. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position = on this document. There is currently 1 IPR filled (2) (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-program= ming-07 (2) https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-sr= v6-network-programming&submit=3Ddraft Thank you, --Bruno & Rob. ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu= ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages el= ectroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou = falsifie. Merci. 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Support.

 

The solution defined in this document has been implemented by several = vendors and open source data plane,

and I think it is ready to be adopted for better help on implementatio= n.

 

My comments regarding USD/PSP/USP have been addressed, hope to see the= correct text in the next version.

 

Thanks,

Cheng

 

From:<= /span> spring [mailto:spring= -bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 2:50 AM
To: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org
Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spr= ing-srv6-network-programming

 

Hi SPRING WG,
 
This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for =
draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for=
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Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting thi=
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hat are not co-authors of this draft.
 
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In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this do=
cument. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR posi=
tion on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)
 
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ogramming-07
(2)  https://datatracker.ietf.org/ip=
r/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=3D=
draft
 
 
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--_000_C7C2E1C43D652C4E9E49FE7517C236CB025A4983dggeml529mbxchi_-- From nobody Wed Mar 13 19:22:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19423129A87; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:22:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MxefV5KbAdup; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 429991277CD; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml707-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 3480E4329EA0A475630E; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:22:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from DGGEML421-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.1.199.38) by lhreml707-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.48) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:22:33 +0000 Received: from DGGEML510-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.190]) by dggeml421-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.1.199.38]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:22:30 +0800 From: Mach Chen To: "bruno.decraene@orange.com" , SPRING WG CC: "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming Thread-Index: AdTZy78VsE+8X4JtQm2GPnG5Q8GtmQAQE/zA Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:22:29 +0000 Message-ID: References: <22596_1552502971_5C8950BB_22596_34_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-Reply-To: <22596_1552502971_5C8950BB_22596_34_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.194.201] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F73A3CB31E8BE34FA1BBE3C8F0CB2AE2928FCDFDdggeml510mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:22:39 -0000 --_000_F73A3CB31E8BE34FA1BBE3C8F0CB2AE2928FCDFDdggeml510mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Yes/support. This is the fundamental document of SRv6, I have read several versions of t= his draft, it becomes more stable and mature. I think it's ready for WG ado= ption. Best regards, Mach From: spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@o= range.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 2:50 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv= 6-network-programming Hi SPRING WG, This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for draft= -filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the = IETF week) Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dra= ft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that a= re not co-authors of this draft. We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technica= l review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the = last call. In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this documen= t. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position = on this document. There is currently 1 IPR filled (2) (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-program= ming-07 (2) https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-sr= v6-network-programming&submit=3Ddraft Thank you, --Bruno & Rob. ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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= H= i,

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= Y= es/support.

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= T= his is the fundamental document of SRv6, I have read several versions of th= is draft, it becomes more stable and mature. I think it’s ready for WG adoption.

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= B= est regards,

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From:<= /font> spring [mailto:spring= -bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@= orange.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 20= 19 2:50 AM
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Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-sr= v6-network-programming@ietf.org
Subject: [spring] Working Gr= oup Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming

 

Hi SPRING WG,
 
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t-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the=
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Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dr=
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are not co-authors of this draft.
 
We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technic=
al review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the=
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In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this docume=
nt. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position=
 on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)
 
(1)  http=
s://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07
(2)  https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=
=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=3Ddraft
 
 
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--_000_F73A3CB31E8BE34FA1BBE3C8F0CB2AE2928FCDFDdggeml510mbxchi_-- From nobody Wed Mar 13 19:38:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1037131257; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:37:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fagpy5LYyxnx; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 686881311A7; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 19:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml709-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 7DD006CDC19670B542C5; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:37:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML414-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.75) by lhreml709-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:37:44 +0000 Received: from NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com ([fe80::a54a:89d2:c471:ff]) by nkgeml414-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.75]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:37:38 +0800 From: "Dongjie (Jimmy)" To: "bruno.decraene@orange.com" , SPRING WG CC: "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming Thread-Index: AdTZy78VsE+8X4JtQm2GPnG5Q8GtmQAQl+KQ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:37:38 +0000 Message-ID: <76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C927C351E189@NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: <22596_1552502971_5C8950BB_22596_34_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-Reply-To: <22596_1552502971_5C8950BB_22596_34_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.130.151.75] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C927C351E189NKGEML515MBXchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:37:58 -0000 --_000_76CD132C3ADEF848BD84D028D243C927C351E189NKGEML515MBXchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, support. This document is fundamental to SRv6, and there are several drafts relying = on its progress. Best regards, Jie From: spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@o= range.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 2:50 AM To: SPRING WG Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv= 6-network-programming Hi SPRING WG, This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for draft= -filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the = IETF week) Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dra= ft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that a= re not co-authors of this draft. We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technica= l review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the = last call. In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this documen= t. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position = on this document. There is currently 1 IPR filled (2) (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-program= ming-07 (2) https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-sr= v6-network-programming&submit=3Ddraft Thank you, --Bruno & Rob. ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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Yes, support.

 

This document is fundamental to SRv6, = and there are several drafts relying on its progress.

 

Best regards,

Jie

 

From: spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 2:50 AM
To: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org
Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spr= ing-srv6-network-programming

 

Hi SPRING WG,
 
This email initiates a three week call for workin=
g group adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three=
 weeks to account for the IETF week)
 
Please indicate your support, comments, or object=
ion, for adopting this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03)
We are particularly interested in hearing from wo=
rking group members that are not co-authors of this draft.
 
We are also looking for volunteers who would be r=
eady to perform a technical review of this work at some later stage, such a=
s before or during WG the last call.
 
In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an=
 IPR call for this document. We will need all authors and contributors to c=
onfirm their IPR position on this document.
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Thanks, Ketan From: spring On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.c= om Sent: 14 March 2019 00:20 To: SPRING WG Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv= 6-network-programming Hi SPRING WG, This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for draft= -filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the = IETF week) Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dra= ft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that a= re not co-authors of this draft. We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technica= l review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the = last call. In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this documen= t. 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Support WG adoption of this key document for SR.

 

Thanks,

Ketan

 

From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.com
Sent: 14 March 2019 00:20
To: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org
Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spr= ing-srv6-network-programming

 

Hi SPRING WG,
 
This email initiates a three week call for workin=
g group adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three=
 weeks to account for the IETF week)
 
Please indicate your support, comments, or object=
ion, for adopting this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03)
We are particularly interested in hearing from wo=
rking group members that are not co-authors of this draft.
 
We are also looking for volunteers who would be r=
eady to perform a technical review of this work at some later stage, such a=
s before or during WG the last call.
 
In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an=
 IPR call for this document. We will need all authors and contributors to c=
onfirm their IPR position on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)
 
(1)  <=
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tf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07
(2)  <=
/span>https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsf=
ils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=3Ddraft
 
 
Thank you,
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Support as the co-author.

 

Best Regards,

Zhenbin (Robin)

 

 

 

From: spring [mailto:sprin= g-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 2:50 AM
To: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org
Subject: [spring] IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-pr= ogramming

 

Hi authors, SPRING WG,
 
In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-ne=
twork-programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR.
 
If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-net=
work-programming please respond to this email.
If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed=
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more details).
 
If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email reg=
ardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR.
If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond onl=
y if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed.
 
This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confir=
mations have been received from all authors and contributors.
 
Thank you,
 
(1)  https://tools.ietf.org/ht=
ml/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07
 
 
--Bruno & Rob.

 

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Support as the co-author.

 

Best Regards,

Zhenbin (Robin)

 

 

 

 

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Hi SPRING WG,
 
This email initiates a three week call for workin=
g group adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three=
 weeks to account for the IETF week)
 
Please indicate your support, comments, or object=
ion, for adopting this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03)
We are particularly interested in hearing from wo=
rking group members that are not co-authors of this draft.
 
We are also looking for volunteers who would be r=
eady to perform a technical review of this work at some later stage, such a=
s before or during WG the last call.
 
In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an=
 IPR call for this document. We will need all authors and contributors to c=
onfirm their IPR position on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)
 
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mp;submit=3Ddraft
 
 
Thank you,=

--Bruno & Rob.

 

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I am not aware of any IPR about the draft except the disclosed one.

 

 

Best Regards,

Zhenbin (Robin)

 

 

 

 

 

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Sure, I will go through them. Meanwhile, let us wait if someone can answer to my questions. thanks, __kals__ On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:10 AM Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) wrote: > Hi Kaliyaperumal, > > > > May I suggest some pointers to resources which would help you? > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/spring/documents/ > > > > More specifically, pertaining to your questions below: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8402/ > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8403/ > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8426/ > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header/ > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-voyer-6man-extension-header-insertion/ > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dukes-spring-mtu-overhead-analysis/ > > > > There are several others in an around the areas of your questions. > > > > For Interop, I would suggest looking up EANTC reports of their tests. > > > > Besides this, if you were to search the web, you would find other > resources that gives you further information that are design and deployment > specific. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Thanks, > > Ketan > > > > *From:* spring *On Behalf Of *tech_kals Kals > *Sent:* 08 March 2019 10:33 > *To:* Alexander Vainshtein > *Cc:* Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; spring@ietf.org; > Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy) ; tech_kals Kals < > tech.kals@gmail.com>; Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil) ; > ask-segment-routing(mailer list) ; Stefano > Previdi (sprevidi) ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) < > ppsenak@cisco.com> > *Subject:* Re: [spring] Questions on Segment Routing > > > > Hi Alexander, > > > > Thank you so much for your response. > > > > Am looking answer for other questions as well. Can someone please reply if > you can. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Regards, > > Kaliyaperumal K > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 11:03 AM Alexander Vainshtein < > Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote: > > Kals, > > Some short answers reflecting my personal understandings > > 1. LSP Ping and Traceroute work just fine with SR-MPLS. Therefore > on-demand OAM is not a problem. > > 2. There are several options for proactive OAM in SR-MPLS, including usage > of Path Segments. > > 3. Prefix SIDs are NOT a replacement for BGP/MPLS IP VPNs. > > Thumb typed by Sasha Vainshtein > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* spring on behalf of tech_kals Kals < > tech.kals@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 6, 2019 5:56:35 AM > *To:* ask-segment-routing@cisco.com; Stefano Previdi (sprevidi); > cfilsfil@cisco.com; Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy); Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); > Peter Psenak (ppsenak); martin.pilka@pantheon.tech; spring@ietf.org > *Subject:* [spring] Questions on Segment Routing > > > > Hi Experts, > > > > I have few questions on Segment Routing. Can you please clarify my doubts. > > > > 1) How OAM can be done in segment-routed networks ? > > I think, MPLS OAM is not possible with SR as network infrastructure > doesn't have any LSP state. > > With SDN controller in place, do we really need traditional OAM ? > > SDN controller can do OAM, but at what cost (like BGP-LS) ? > > > > 2) How will the traffic handoff happen from aggregate network to core > network ? > > core is running RSVP-TE, so IP handoff can be done on edge router ? > > I don't think, SDN controller can control RSVP enabled routers. > So, how it is to make end-to-end TE i..e from Aggregate router to Core > Router ? > > > > 3) can prefix sid be used to replace VRF in L3VPN scenario? (or any other > way in SR can avoid vrf ?) > > Assume, on a router there are two interfaces. one is 10.1.1.0 VRF-1, > another one is VRF2-10.1.1.0. > > Which SID should I use to differentiate them? Can I use, prefix SID > in this case ? > > Is the below will work ? > > Eth1 - VRF-1: 10.1.1.0 == Prefix SID: 1000 > > Eth2 - VRF-2: 10.1.1.0 == Prefix SID: 2000 > > > > 4) How to handle multicast/broadcast using SR ? > > > > 5) SRv6 stacking ipv6 SRH might hit MTU limit somewhere in the network. > > Is my understanding correct ? > > > > 6) Does VRRP work with SR ? how fault would be propagated in a necklace > topology? > > > > 7) Is there any known issues related to interop with different vendors ? > > > > 8) While programming Node-SID on MPLS ILM table, can I assume node-SID > would always be programmed with SWAP operation except on PHP node? > > > > Thanks, > > __kals__ > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains > information which is > CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. 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Hi Ketan,

Thanks for your reply.
<= div>
Sure, I will go through them.

M= eanwhile, let us wait if someone can answer to my questions.

=
thanks,
__kals__


On Wed, Mar 13, 2= 019 at 11:10 AM Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <ketant@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Kaliyaperumal,

=C2=A0

May I suggest some pointers to resources which= would help you?

=C2=A0

https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/spring/do= cuments/

=C2=A0

More specifically, pertaining to your question= s below:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8402/<= /u>

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8403/<= /u>

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8426/<= /u>

https://datatracke= r.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header/

https://datat= racker.ietf.org/doc/draft-voyer-6man-extension-header-insertion/=

https://datatrac= ker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dukes-spring-mtu-overhead-analysis/

=C2=A0

There are several others in an around the area= s of your questions.

=C2=A0

For Interop, I would suggest looking up EANTC = reports of their tests.

=C2=A0

Besides this, if you were to search the web, y= ou would find other resources that gives you further information that are d= esign and deployment specific.

=C2=A0

Hope this helps.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Ketan

=C2=A0

From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of tech_kals Kals
Sent: 08 March 2019 10:33
To: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>
Cc: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg@cisco.com>; spring@ietf.org; Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy) &l= t;bashandy@cisco.co= m>; tech_kals Kals <tech.kals@gmail.com>; Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil) <<= a href=3D"mailto:cfilsfil@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">cfilsfil@cisco.com>; ask-segment-routing(mailer list) <ask-segment-routing@cisco.com>; Stefano Previdi (sprevidi) <sprevidi@cisco.com>; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) <ppsenak@cisco.com> Subject: Re: [spring] Questions on Segment Routing

=C2=A0

Hi Alexander,

=C2=A0

Thank you so much for your response.

=C2=A0

Am looking answer for other questions as well. Can s= omeone please reply if you can.

=C2=A0

Thanks in advance.

=C2=A0

Regards,

Kaliyaperumal K

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 11:03 AM Alexander Vainshtein= <= Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote:

Kals,

Some short answers reflecting my personal understandings=

1. LSP Ping and Traceroute work just fine with SR-MPLS. Therefore on-d= emand OAM is not a problem.

2. There are several options for proactive OAM in SR-MPLS, including u= sage of Path Segments.

3. Prefix SIDs are NOT a replacement for = BGP/MPLS IP VPNs.

Thumb typed by Sasha Vainshtein

=C2=A0

From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of tech_kals= Kals <tech.kal= s@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 5:56:35 AM
To: ask-segment-routing@cisco.com; Stefano Previdi (sprevidi); cfilsfil@cisco.com<= /a>; Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy); Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); Peter Psenak (ppse= nak); martin.pilk= a@pantheon.tech; spring@ietf.org
Subject: [spring] Questions on Segment Routing =

=C2=A0

Hi Experts,

=C2=A0

I have few questions on Segment Routing. Can you ple= ase clarify my doubts.

=C2=A0

1) How OAM can be=C2=A0done in= =C2=A0segment-routed networks ?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think, MPL= S OAM is not possible with SR as=C2=A0network infrastructure doesn't ha= ve any LSP state.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0With SDN con= troller in place,=C2=A0do we really need traditional OAM=C2=A0?=

=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0SDN con= troller can do=C2=A0OAM, but at what cost (like BGP-LS) ?

=C2=A0

2) How will the traffic handoff = happen from aggregate network to core network ?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 core is running RS= VP-TE, so=C2=A0IP handoff=C2=A0 can be done=C2=A0on edge router ?<= u>

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I don't think,= SDN controller can=C2=A0control RSVP enabled=C2=A0routers. So,=C2=A0how it= is to make end-to-end=C2=A0TE i..e from Aggregate router to Core Router ?<= /span>

=C2=A0

3)=C2=A0can prefix sid be used t= o replace VRF=C2=A0in L3VPN scenario?=C2=A0(or any other way in SR can avoi= d vrf=C2=A0?)

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Assume, on a= router there are two interfaces. one is 10.1.1.0 VRF-1, another one is VRF= 2-10.1.1.0.=C2=A0

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Which SID sh= ould I use to differentiate them? Can I use, prefix SID in this case ?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Is the below= will work ?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Eth1 - VRF-1= : 10.1.1.0=C2=A0 =3D=3D Prefix SID: 1000

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Eth2 - VRF-2= : 10.1.1.0=C2=A0 =3D=3D Prefix SID: 2000=C2=A0=C2=A0=

=C2=A0

4) How to handle multicast/broad= cast using SR=C2=A0?

=C2=A0

5) SRv6 stacking ipv6 SRH might = hit MTU limit somewhere in the network.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Is my unders= tanding correct ?

=C2=A0

6) Does=C2=A0VRRP work=C2=A0with= SR ?=C2=A0how fault would be propagated=C2=A0in a necklace topology?=C2=A0=

=C2=A0

7) Is there any known issues rel= ated to=C2=A0interop with=C2=A0different vendors ?

8) While programming Node-SID on= MPLS ILM table, can I assume node-SID would always be programmed with SWAP= operation except on PHP node?

Thanks,

__kals__<= /span>


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I am not aware of an= y IPR about the draft except the disclosed one.

Best regards,
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Support the WG adoptio= n.

 

Thanks,

Shuping

 

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Support the WG adopt= ion.

Thanks.
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=D6=F7=CC=E2=A3=BA [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for dra= ft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming
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Hi SPRING WG,
 
This email initiates a three week call=
 for working group adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programm=
ing. (Three weeks to account for the IETF week)
 
Please indicate your support, comments=
, or objection, for adopting this draft as a working group item by April, 3=
rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03)
We are particularly interested in hear=
ing from working group members that are not co-authors of this draft.
 
We are also looking for volunteers who=
 would be ready to perform a technical review of this work at some later st=
age, such as before or during WG the last call.
 
In parallel to this adoption call, I w=
ill send an IPR call for this document. We will need all authors and contri=
butors to confirm their IPR position on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)
 
(1)  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-=
programming-07
(2)  https://datatracker.ietf.org/=
ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=
=3Ddraft
 
 
Thank you,=

--Bruno & Rob.

 

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On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:49 AM <bruno.decraene@orange.com> wrote:
Hi SPRING WG,
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This email initiates a three week call for workin=
g group adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three=
 weeks to account for the IETF week)
=C2=A0
Please indicate your support, comments, or object=
ion, for adopting this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03)
We are particularly interested in hearing from wo=
rking group members that are not co-authors of this draft.
=C2=A0
We are also looking for volunteers who would be r=
eady to perform a technical review of this work at some later stage, such a=
s before or during WG the last call.
=C2=A0
In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an=
 IPR call for this document. We will need all authors and contributors to c=
onfirm their IPR position on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)=

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(1)=C2=A0 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spri=
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racker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-program=
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Thank you,
--Bruno & Rob.

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--000000000000dd567c0584071385-- From nobody Wed Mar 13 22:53:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89C2127987 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 22:53:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6BIqPaUlxcpL for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 22:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it1-x132.google.com (mail-it1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF35212705F for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 22:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it1-x132.google.com with SMTP id m137so2785318ita.0 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 22:53:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wsrWLEGxMIMAeAwmDeZVDorHs2rz+CPIVIvvvIrJfzs=; b=Lgo9D2MWv2qTofRAeeRpsrAA+jwauHgjtynmOELU+6Q13MeohQtTPXBnCb/mgn7uBQ 88PXG+OUSAX4rxW7bFKbDMf6hMeMIfFL/SqXGn8EN++p4VUSAN7OonfzIf2RwIzmS3vB Ee7DeE+s8ZFxEl0zm9ky/RkIKOTJloUlZ0v3pyGxZBAPDwcyil6GrBrgr8DFp560YnuP 4/U5hxIy7lKhmpcXL0Q7aJHCUaU0NlHtEUbKjH1Uk22aFb9TGuKh+fJgWhfJkXLpThci 3rjfTTcbi5utB3dgfDomrNwNKZvL0Dg98KPc6+iGI1qwB5cWw7ztZZacPKkf1qHR/9oa 1MCw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=wsrWLEGxMIMAeAwmDeZVDorHs2rz+CPIVIvvvIrJfzs=; b=ePHcw12zd36wOiOVGNe8aLrFKPKubi6RABmO2jxoBZY/O8IEd/TX/GsCYeRUMhXiaU X2OTU+5IM6cfwJc+a7HLz8Cu3+bF74MX8UUTRWcN3xEdqzFYkxO3vjSxUx6LbkkgsKqd QYeu0NIGV1nSJiPovgKOlXJ5EOqT1Pgu6M0fMhSTkWr6TWPGA4obN0UOVf7E00YQoLXP UUTP8VwvrBXsKe5q0f9SBZIwSWsjZ7fzXs48GtKOukea8BAfnafoH7W2iW4OjEBKr6iW wmf5MvlmFjOSM99x12/IMtjIvnZAM6cm9NMdbFtbO/brR2r76igdApBWaFF0lGINEc1z 72OQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVek2JTZb1auE1LW8A1519envJ4kK44jcd2EsRL0NttavH5DXpN hOb4QLvZUs8qmHWXxIL+QIT0gXJrlp51LqSQXQA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyx7vUKWGc2QxhDZmlWLDiwCW2jFXDCz0srJsDaSbCgY2cvUbxWEPgouw/7mtea+WJ509Lei1c46ZP3RhwsWPI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:660c:f82:: with SMTP id x2mr1093451itl.47.1552542782100; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 22:53:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: tech_kals Kals Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 11:21:44 +0530 Message-ID: To: "ask-segment-routing(mailer list)" , "Stefano Previdi (sprevidi)" , "Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil)" , "Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy)" , "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" , "Peter Psenak (ppsenak)" , "spring@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000698f80584078993" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] How would Traffic handoff happen from aggregate network to core network ? X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 05:53:06 -0000 --0000000000000698f80584078993 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Can someone have a look at my question please. thanks, __kals__ On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:45 AM tech_kals Kals wrote: > Hi Experts, > > > I just want to know how will the traffic handoff happen from aggregate > network to core network ? > > Assume, core is running RSVP-TE, so IP handoff can be done on edge router > ? > > > I don't think, SDN controller can control RSVP enabled routers. So, how > it is to make end-to-end TE i.e from Aggregate router to Core Router ? > > > Thanks, > > __kals__ > --0000000000000698f80584078993 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Can someone have a look at my quest= ion please.

thanks,
__kals__
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On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:45 AM tech_kals Kals <tech.kals@gmail.com> wrote:

H= i Experts,


= I just want t= o know how=C2=A0will the traffic handoff happen from aggregate networ= k to core network ?

Assume, cor= e is running RSVP-TE, so=C2=A0IP handoff=C2=A0 can be done=C2=A0on edge rou= ter ?=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0


I don't think, SDN controller can=C2=A0c= ontrol RSVP enabled=C2=A0routers. So,=C2=A0how it is to make end-to-e= nd=C2=A0TE i.e from Aggregate router to Core Router ?


Thanks,

__kals__

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<32033_1552503001_5C8950D8_32033_150_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A187A7@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> From: "Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil)" Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 14:13:58 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <32033_1552503001_5C8950D8_32033_150_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A187A7@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: cfilsfil X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 10.61.226.17, [10.61.226.17] X-Outbound-Node: aer-core-3.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 13:14:08 -0000 I am not aware of any IPR other than the one already disclosed. Cheers, Clarence On 13-03-19 19:50, bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote: > Hi authors, SPRING WG, > > In parallel to the call for adoption for > draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming (1), we would like to > poll for IPR. > > If you are aware of IPR that applies to > draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming please respond to this email. > > If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed > in accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 > provide more details). > > If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email > regardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR. > > If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond only > if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed. > > This document will not advance into the working group until IPR > confirmations have been received from all authors and contributors. > > Thank you, > > (1)https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07 > > --Bruno & Rob. > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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It is clearly intended for the working group. /Loa -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:26:44 +0800 From: Loa Andersson To: bruno.decraene@orange.com Working Group, I support the adoption of this draft as a working group document. I made some comments on the IANA section. I don't think that these comments needs to be resolved before adopting the draft. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/JJPtc8xzSlB6Qb5wKdxS7pzTry8 However, I got a response from Pablo that since there are implementations/deployments they want to do early allocations. I think that my comments need to be addressed prior to doing these early allocations. /Loa On 2019-03-14 02:49, bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote: > Hi SPRING WG, > > This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for > draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account > for the IETF week) > > Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this > draft as a working group item by April, 3^rd , 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) > > We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members > that are not co-authors of this draft. > > We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a > technical review of this work at some later stage, such as before or > during WG the last call. > > In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this > document. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR > position on this document. > > There is currently 1 IPR filled (2) > > (1)https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07 > > (2)https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=draft > > Thank you, > > --Bruno & Rob. > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. 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X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 05:15:47 -0000 --0000000000007cb41a05841b21fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Can someone have a look at this issue ? thanks, __kals__ On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:49 AM tech_kals Kals wrote: > Hi experts, > > Am so curious to know about how OAM can be supported on segment-routing > networks ? > > > I think, MPLS OAM is not possible with SR as network infrastructure > doesn't have any LSP state. > > > With SDN controller in place, do we really need traditional OAM ? > > Assume, SDN controller can identify the issue on the network, and it can > configure an alternate path on the defected node. > > > If SDN controller can do OAM, but at what cost (like BGP-LS) ? > > > Thanks, > > __Kals__ > > > --0000000000007cb41a05841b21fd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Can someone have a look at this iss= ue ?

thanks,
__kals__


On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:49 AM tech_kals Kals <tech.kals@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi experts,

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please ignore my=C2=A0previous email..

=
hi,

can someone answer my question = please ?

thanks,
kals


On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 10:44 AM tech_kals Kals <tech.kals@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Can someone have a look at this issue ?

thanks,<= /div>
__kals__


On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:49 AM tec= h_kals Kals <te= ch.kals@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi experts,

Am so curi= ous to know about how OAM can be supported on=C2=A0segment-routing networks = ?


I think, MPLS OAM is = not possible with SR as=C2=A0network infrastructure doesn't have any LSP st= ate.


With SDN controller= in place,=C2=A0do we really need traditional OAM=C2=A0?=C2=A0

Assume, SDN controller can identify the issue on the= network, and it can configure an alternate path on the defected node.


If SDN= controller can do=C2=A0OAM, but at what cost (like BGP-LS) ?=


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Thanks, -- Kentaro Ebisawa ------ Original Message ------ From: bruno.decraene@orange.com To: "SPRING WG" Cc: "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org"=20 date: 2019/03/14 3:49:31 Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for=20 draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming Hi SPRING WG, This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for draft= -filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the= IETF week) Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dra= ft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that a= re not co-authors of this draft. We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technica= l review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the= last call. In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this documen= t. 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I support the adoption of this draft.

Thanks,
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Cc: "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" <draf= t-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org>
date: 2019/03/14 3:49:31
Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-sprin= g-srv6-network-programming

Hi SPRING WG,
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This email init=
iates a three week call for working group adoption for draft-filsfils-sprin=
g-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the IETF week)
=C2=A0
Please indicate =
your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this draft as a working =
group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03)
We are particul=
arly interested in hearing from working group members that are not co-autho=
rs of this draft.
=C2=A0
We are also loo=
king for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technical review of thi=
s work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the last call.
=C2=A0
In parallel to=
 this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this document. We will need =
all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position on this documen=
t.
There is curren=
tly 1 IPR filled (2)
=C2=A0
(1)=C2=A0 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network=
-programming-07
(2)=C2=A0 https://datatracker.ietf.org=
/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=
=3Ddraft
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Thank you,=

--Bruno & Rob.

=C2=A0

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Thanks, Ahmed =20 =EF=BB=BFOn 15/03/2019, 09:28, "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" = wrote: <> =20 Hi, =20 I am not aware of any IPR other than the one already disclosed. =20 Thanks, Pablo =20 From: "bruno.decraene@orange.com" Date: Wednesday, 13 March 2019 at 19:50 To: SPRING WG Cc: "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" = Subject: IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming Resent-From: Resent-To: , , = , , = , Resent-Date: Wednesday, 13 March 2019 at 19:50 =20 =20 =20 Hi authors, SPRING WG, In parallel to the call for adoption for = draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming (1), we would like to = poll for IPR. If you are aware of IPR that applies to = draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming please respond to this = email.If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been = disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and = 5378 provide more details). If you are an *author or contributor* please = respond to this email regardless of whether or not you're aware of any = IPR.If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond = only if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed. This = document will not advance into the working group until IPR confirmations = have been received from all authors and contributors. Thank you, (1) = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming= -07 --Bruno & Rob. = __________________________________________________________________________= _______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces = jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou = privilegiees et ne doivent doncpas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies = sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le = signalera l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. 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I am not aware of any IPR other than the one already = disclosed.

Thanks,

Ahmed  

=EF=BB=BF= On 15/03/2019, 09:28, "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" <pcamaril@cisco.com> = wrote:

 

    = Hi,

    

    I am not aware of any IPR other than the one already disclosed.

    

    = Thanks,

    Pablo

    

    = From:

    "bruno.decraene@orange.com" <bruno.decraene@orange.com>

    Date: Wednesday, 13 March 2019 at 19:50

    = To: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>

    = Cc: "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" <draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org>=

    Subject: IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming

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    Resent-To: <cf@cisco.com>, = <pcamaril@cisco.com>, <john_leddy@cable.comcast.com>, <daniel.voyer@bell.ca>, <satoru.matsushima@g.softbank.co.jp>, <lizhenbin@huawei.com>

   = Resent-Date: Wednesday, 13 March 2019 at 19:50

    =

    

   

    = Hi authors, SPRING WG, In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming (1), we would like to = poll for IPR. If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming please respond to this = email.If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provide = more details). If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this = email regardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR.If you are not an = author or contributor, please explicitly respond only if you are aware of IPR = that has not yet been disclosed. This document will not advance into the working = group until IPR confirmations have been received from all authors and = contributors. Thank you, (1)  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-= programming-07  --Bruno & Rob.

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[spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:38:09 -0000 --000000000000ebf9e305842225aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Support the adoption. Cheers, --satoru On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 3:49 AM wrote: > Hi SPRING WG, > > > > This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the IETF week) > > > > Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) > > We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that are not co-authors of this draft. > > > > We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technical review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the last call. > > > > In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this document. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position on this document. > > There is currently 1 IPR filled (2) > > > > (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07 > > (2) https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=draft > > > > > > Thank you, > > --Bruno & Rob. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. 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Support the adoption.

Cheers,
--satoru

On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 3:49 AM <bruno.decraene@orange.com>= wrote:
Hi SPRING WG,
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This email initiates a three week call for workin=
g group adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three=
 weeks to account for the IETF week)
=C2=A0
Please indicate your support, comments, or object=
ion, for adopting this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03)
We are particularly interested in hearing from wo=
rking group members that are not co-authors of this draft.
=C2=A0
We are also looking for volunteers who would be r=
eady to perform a technical review of this work at some later stage, such a=
s before or during WG the last call.
=C2=A0
In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an=
 IPR call for this document. We will need all authors and contributors to c=
onfirm their IPR position on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)=

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Thank you,
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Cheers, --satoru On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 3:50 AM wrote: > Hi authors, SPRING WG, > > > > In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR. > > > > If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming please respond to this email. > > If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provide more details). > > > > If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR. > > If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond only if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed. > > > > This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confirmations have been received from all authors and contributors. > > > > Thank you, > > > > (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07 > > > > > > --Bruno & Rob. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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I'm not aware of IPR that applies to the draft.

Cheers,
--satoru

On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 3:5= 0 AM <bruno.decraene@orange= .com> wrote:
Hi authors, SPRING WG,
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lsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR.<=
u>
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sed.
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butors.
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Malis" Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 09:57:53 -0400 Message-ID: To: Gaurav Dawra Cc: "Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)" , "spring-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" , IETF Secretariat , "spring@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000081ee0e0584226d26" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] The SPRING WG has placed draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:58:08 -0000 --00000000000081ee0e0584226d26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/support. Cheers, Andy On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 6:27 PM Gaurav Dawra wrote: > Support. > > Gaurav > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 13, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar) < > naikumar@cisco.com> wrote: > > > > Support. > > > > Regards, > > Nagendra > > > > =EF=BB=BFOn 3/13/19, 3:31 PM, "spring on behalf of IETF Secretariat" < > spring-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org> > wrote: > > > > > > The SPRING WG has placed > draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming in > > state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Bruno Decraene) > > > > The document is available at > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-progr= amming/ > > > > Comment: > > IPR call: > > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/ewznLZ_nIkkLyeOL76QU7ENr6Fs > > > > Adoption call: > > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/Fr8RtiWt-tLjHtWnhPkhCAPmesM > > > > _______________________________________________ > > spring mailing list > > spring@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > spring mailing list > > spring@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > --00000000000081ee0e0584226d26 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes/support.

Cheers,
Andy


On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 6:27 PM Gaurav Dawra <gdawra.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
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Support.

Gaurav

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> On Mar 13, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar) <naikumar@cisco.com&= gt; wrote:
>
> Support.
>
> Regards,
> Nagendra
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> =EF=BB=BFOn 3/13/19, 3:31 PM, "spring on behalf of IETF Secretari= at" <s= pring-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org> w= rote:
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The SPRING WG has placed draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-netwo= rk-programming in
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The document is available at
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Comment:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 IPR call:
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Adoption call:
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<916_1551718512_5C7D5870_916_83_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A489F2C58@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-Reply-To: <916_1551718512_5C7D5870_916_83_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A489F2C58@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.114.13.245] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IETF 104 - SPRING meeting X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 17:16:13 -0000 Hi SPRING WG, =20 The agenda for the SPRING working group session at IETF 104 has been upload= ed to=20 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/agenda-104-spring-00 We were 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From nobody Fri Mar 15 11:03:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A25912B001; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 11:03:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qTaN9Vn0mWwG; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 11:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 356C0130E86; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 11:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml707-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 7D14C654948683F7495E; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 18:03:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml707-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.48) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 18:03:26 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.234]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.244]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 11:03:23 -0700 From: Linda Dunbar To: "bruno.decraene@orange.com" , SPRING WG CC: "spring-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IETF 104 - SPRING meeting Thread-Index: AdTSqhk24exiZ+23QbuJduuz+vEk/QIqI6PwAAE2BCA= Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 18:03:22 +0000 Message-ID: <4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F66B31A6EB@sjceml521-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: <916_1551718512_5C7D5870_916_83_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A489F2C58@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <20482_1552670169_5C8BDDD9_20482_291_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A1CE48@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-Reply-To: <20482_1552670169_5C8BDDD9_20482_291_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A1CE48@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.212.244.138] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IETF 104 - SPRING meeting X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 18:03:33 -0000 Bruno,=20 Sorry for the late request, possible to add 5 minutes for the update to the= following draft?=20 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dunbar-sr-sdwan-over-hybrid-networks= / Thank you,=20 Linda Dunbar -----Original Message----- From: spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@o= range.com Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 12:16 PM To: SPRING WG Cc: spring-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] IETF 104 - SPRING meeting Hi SPRING WG, =20 The agenda for the SPRING working group session at IETF 104 has been upload= ed to https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/agenda-104-spring-00 We were oversubscribed for this session. 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It would probably be better to not have two WGs fighting. And, in case someone is confused by my comments, RFC 4291 has. IPv6 addresses are 128-bit identifiers for interfaces and sets of interfaces (where "interface" is as defined in Section 2 of [IPV6]). And RFC 8200 has. interface a node's attachment to a link. and Destination Address 128-bit address of the intended recipient of the packet (possibly not the ultimate recipient, if a Routing header is present). See [RFC4291] and Section 4.4. Now, it is possible that everyone will say "Yeah, go ahead." Or they may say, "You can only do this if you're also updating 4291 and 8200." Or, of course, they may also say, "Whoa, it would be a really big step to address a function or an instruction or something other than an interface, notwithstanding that they are routable." I'm not prejudging what answer we might get, but think it would be worth asking. Best, Adrian From: spring On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.com Sent: 13 March 2019 18:50 To: SPRING WG Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming Hi SPRING WG, This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the IETF week) Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that are not co-authors of this draft. We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technical review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the last call. In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this document. 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Thanks for = this poll, Bruno,

 

Before = taking up work on this draft, would it be worth working with 6man to = check that the repurposing of IPv6 addresses would be unlikely to cause = a great fight? It would probably be better to not have two WGs = fighting.

 

And, in case someone is confused by my comments, RFC = 4291 has…

 

   = IPv6 addresses are 128-bit identifiers for interfaces and sets = of

   interfaces (where = "interface" is as defined in Section 2 of = [IPV6]).

 

And RFC 8200 has…

 

      = interface    a node's attachment to a = link.

 

and

 

      Destination Address = 128-bit address of the intended recipient of

   =             &= nbsp;          the = packet (possibly not the ultimate

         &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;    recipient, if a Routing header is = present).

         &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;    See [RFC4291] and Section 4.4.

 

Now, it is = possible that everyone will say “Yeah, go ahead.” Or they = may say, “You can only do this if you’re also updating 4291 = and 8200.” Or, of course, they may also say, “Whoa, it would = be a really big step to address a function or an instruction or = something other than an interface, notwithstanding that they are = routable.”

 

I’m = not prejudging what answer we might get, but think it would be worth = asking.

 

Best,

Adrian

 

 

From: spring = <spring-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of = bruno.decraene@orange.com
Sent: 13 March 2019 = 18:50
To: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
Cc: = draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org
Subject: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for = draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming

 

Hi SPRING WG,
 
This =
email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for =
draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account =
for the IETF week)
 
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bruno, While I like many things about this draft, I don't think that it is ready f= or adoption. Reasons follow: * Section 4.1 appears to contradict Section 4.3.1 of draft-ietf-6man-se= gment-routing-header. In particular, consider the behavior when Segments Le= ft equals 0. * Sections 4.13, 4.14. 4.21.1 and 4.21.2 appear to be in conflict with = RFC 8200 [1] [2]. * The intent of section 4.19 is unclear. * As Adrian points out, the draft extends the semantics of the IPv6 add= ress. Such a decision may have wide-reaching impact, and should be socializ= ed with a wider community (6man, INTAREA WG, V6OPS) * The draft appears to be in conflict with draft-ietf-6man-segment-rout= ing-header regarding how extension headers after the SRH are processed. Acc= ording to draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header, subsequent extension head= ers are processed out of order, potentially in conflict with RFC 8200. Acco= rding to this draft, subsequent extension headers are ignored. [1] According to RFC 8200, "Each extension header should occur at most once= , except for the Destination Options header, which should occur at most twi= ce (once before a Routing header and once before the upper-layer header)." [2] According to RFC 8200, "extension headers must be processed strictly in= the order they appear in the packet" . Sections 4.13 and 4.14 violate thi= s rule by prepending an SRH before the SRH that is currently being processe= d. = Ron From: spring On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.c= om Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 2:50 PM To: SPRING WG Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org Subject: [spring] IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programmi= ng Hi authors, SPRING WG, In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network= -programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR. If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-= programming please respond to this email. If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed in a= ccordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provide more = details). If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email regardle= ss of whether or not you're aware of any IPR. If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond only if = you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed. This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confirmatio= ns have been received from all authors and contributors. Thank you, (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-program= ming-07 --Bruno & Rob. ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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Bruno= ,

=  

While= I like many things about this draft, I don’t think that it is ready = for adoption. Reasons follow:

=  

  • Section 4.1 appears to contradict Section = 4.3.1 of draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header. In particular, consider th= e behavior when Segments Left equals 0.
  • Sections 4.13, 4.14. 4.21.1 and 4.21.2 app= ear to be in conflict with RFC 8200 [1] [2].
  • The intent of section 4.19 is unclear.
  • As Adrian points out, the draft extends th= e semantics of the IPv6 address. Such a decision may have wide-reaching imp= act, and should be socialized with a wider community (6man, INTAREA WG, V6O= PS)
  • The draft appears to be in conflict with d= raft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header regarding how extension headers after= the SRH are processed. According to draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header= , subsequent extension headers are processed out of order, potentially in conflict with RFC 8200. According t= o this draft, subsequent extension headers are ignored.

=  

[1] According to RFC 8200, “E=
ach extension header should occur at most once, except for the Destination =
Options header, which should occur at most twice (once before a Routing hea=
der and once before the upper-layer header).”
 
[2] According to RFC 8200, “e=
xtension headers must be processed strictly in the order they appear  =
in the packet” . Sections 4.13 and 4.14 violate=
 this rule by prepending an SRH before the SRH that is currently being proc=
essed.
 

=  

=  

 = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;            Ron<= o:p>

=  

=  

=  

From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> = On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 2:50 PM
To: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org
Subject: [spring] IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-pr= ogramming

 

Hi authors, SPRING WG,
 
In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-ne=
twork-programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR.
 
If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-net=
work-programming please respond to this email.
If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed=
 in accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provide =
more details).
 
If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email reg=
ardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR.
If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond onl=
y if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed.
 
This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confir=
mations have been received from all authors and contributors.

 


Thank you,


 


(1)  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-program=
ming-07


 


 


--Bruno & Rob.


 


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SRH is not part of either of those lists. It also has been communicated very clearly by 6man chairs and ADs when RFC8200 was proceeding that any future document can update it when it defines new types of extension headers therefor I find your reasoning of "conflict" quite bizarre. Kind regards, R. On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:52 PM Ron Bonica wrote: > Bruno, > > > > While I like many things about this draft, I don=E2=80=99t think that it = is ready > for adoption. Reasons follow: > > > > - Section 4.1 appears to contradict Section 4.3.1 of > draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header. In particular, consider the > behavior when Segments Left equals 0. > - Sections 4.13, 4.14. 4.21.1 and 4.21.2 appear to be in conflict with > RFC 8200 [1] [2]. > - The intent of section 4.19 is unclear. > - As Adrian points out, the draft extends the semantics of the IPv6 > address. Such a decision may have wide-reaching impact, and should be > socialized with a wider community (6man, INTAREA WG, V6OPS) > - The draft appears to be in conflict with > draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header regarding how extension headers > after the SRH are processed. According to > draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header, subsequent extension headers a= re > processed out of order, potentially in conflict with RFC 8200. Accordi= ng to > this draft, subsequent extension headers are ignored. > > > > [1] According to RFC 8200, =E2=80=9CEach extension header should occur at= most once, except for the Destination Options header, which should occur a= t most twice (once before a Routing header and once before the upper-layer = header).=E2=80=9D > > > > [2] According to RFC 8200, =E2=80=9Cextension headers must be processed s= trictly in the order they appear in the packet=E2=80=9D . Sections 4.13 an= d 4.14 violate this rule by prepending an SRH before the SRH that is curren= tly being processed. > > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > *From:* spring *On Behalf Of * > bruno.decraene@orange.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 13, 2019 2:50 PM > *To:* SPRING WG > *Cc:* draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org > *Subject:* [spring] IPR Poll for > draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming > > > > Hi authors, SPRING WG, > > > > In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-netwo= rk-programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR. > > > > If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-networ= k-programming please respond to this email. > > If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed in= accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provide mor= e details). > > > > If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email regard= less of whether or not you're aware of any IPR. > > If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond only i= f you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed. > > > > This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confirmat= ions have been received from all authors and contributors. > > > > Thank you, > > > > (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-progr= amming-07 > > > > > > --Bruno & Rob. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________= ________________________________________________ > > > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confid= entielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez re= cu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages = electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme o= u falsifie. Merci. > > > > This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged i= nformation that may be protected by law; > > they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. > > If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and de= lete this message and its attachments. > > As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have bee= n modified, changed or falsified. > > Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > --000000000000f1529a058450cd4b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Ron,

While authors may address your oth= er questions allow me to express an opinion regarding your observation:

"conflict with RFC 8200 [1] [2]"

As written today RFC 8200 provides rules for inse= rtion and handling of those extension headers which are enumerated=C2=A0in = said RFC and are listed in IANA IPv6 Extension Header Types registry. SRH i= s not part of either of those lists.

It also has = been communicated very clearly by 6man chairs and ADs when RFC8200 was proc= eeding that any future document can update it when it defines new types of = extension headers therefor I find your reasoning of "conflict" qu= ite bizarre.=C2=A0

= Kind regards,
R.


On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:52 PM Ron Bonica &l= t;rbonica=3D40juniper.net@d= marc.ietf.org> wrote:

= Bruno,

= =C2=A0

= While I like many things about this draft, I don=E2=80=99t think that it is= ready for adoption. Reasons follow:

= =C2=A0

  • Section 4.1 appears to contradict Section 4.= 3.1 of draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header. In particular, consider the = behavior when Segments Left equals 0.
  • Sections 4.13, 4.14. 4.21.1 and 4.21.2 appea= r to be in conflict with RFC 8200 [1] [2].
  • The intent of section 4.19 is unclear.
  • As Adrian points out, the draft extends the = semantics of the IPv6 address. Such a decision may have wide-reaching impac= t, and should be socialized with a wider community (6man, INTAREA WG, V6OPS= )
  • The draft appears to be in conflict with dra= ft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header regarding how extension headers after t= he SRH are processed. According to draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header, = subsequent extension headers are processed out of order, potentially in conflict with RFC 8200. According t= o this draft, subsequent extension headers are ignored.

= =C2=A0

[1] According to RFC 8200, =E2=80=9CEach extension heade=
r should occur at most once, except for the Destination Options header, whi=
ch should occur at most twice (once before a Routing header and once before=
 the upper-layer header).=E2=80=9D
=C2=A0
[2] According to RFC 8200, =E2=80=9Cextension headers mu=
st be processed strictly in the order they appear =C2=A0in the packet=E2=80=
=9D . Sections 4.13 and 4.14 violate this rule by prepending=
 an SRH before the SRH that is currently being processed.
=C2=A0

= =C2=A0

= =C2=A0

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= =C2=A0

= =C2=A0

= =C2=A0

From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> On Beha= lf Of bruno.de= craene@orange.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 2:50 PM
To: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming= @ietf.org
Subject: [spring] IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-pr= ogramming

=C2=A0

Hi authors, SPRING WG,
=C2=A0
In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-ne=
twork-programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR.
=C2=A0
If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-net=
work-programming please respond to this email.
If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed=
 in accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provide =
more details).
=C2=A0
If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email reg=
ardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR.
If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond onl=
y if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed.

=C2=A0


This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confir=
mations have been received from all authors and contributors.=



=C2=A0


Thank you,


=C2=A0


(1)=C2=A0 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programmi=
ng-07


=C2=A0


=C2=A0


--Bruno & Rob.


=C2=A0


____________________________________________________=
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--000000000000f1529a058450cd4b-- From nobody Mon Mar 18 00:44:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267BC128766; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 00:44:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=joelhalpern.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7ldVwwM9vfd4; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 00:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailb2.tigertech.net (mailb2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49849128661; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 00:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailb2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44N7Vg0gJ2zTgC2; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 00:44:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=joelhalpern.com; s=2.tigertech; t=1552895067; bh=5BsORA7t49umfzDcMCKLwTG1+x1hbF9HtbPF0hRYp+g=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=fzBYkHkhyAJj714nQsAJt2fcmMq3Q0JQV6HHpaT8iX9Jd3la9OcD2OWV/qPDGJFGS ovJ5V8t3UtXVCUfTvsWFHTt/9Du3yW44HNi/RWNhIthYlcrwB8yAo3jT5z0ZYiLtc2 huUwhf7pQIytCcWgs9ycrQCEK1WoT1RZff2CokM0= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at b2.tigertech.net Received: from Joels-MacBook-Pro.local (unknown [157.25.193.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailb2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 44N7Vd5JJ5zFpxx; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 00:44:25 -0700 (PDT) To: Robert Raszuk Cc: Ron Bonica , SPRING WG , "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" References: <32033_1552503001_5C8950D8_32033_150_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A187A7@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> From: "Joel M. Halpern" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 08:44:23 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 07:44:31 -0000 Robert, your description of the conflict situation does not match my understanding. A new rFC can always update existing RFCs. However, it can't do so silently. If this document wants to make a change to 8200's rules, it needs to say so. And explain the benefit. And have the proposal discussed in 6man. The current document that has requested working group adoption does not address these needs. Yours, Joel On 3/17/19 10:17 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote: > Dear Ron, > > While authors may address your other questions allow me to express an > opinion regarding your observation: > > "conflict with RFC 8200 [1] [2]" > > As written today RFC 8200 provides rules for insertion and handling of > those extension headers which are enumerated in said RFC and are listed > in IANA IPv6 Extension Header Types registry. SRH is not part of either > of those lists. > > It also has been communicated very clearly by 6man chairs and ADs when > RFC8200 was proceeding that any future document can update it when it > defines new types of extension headers therefor I find your reasoning of > "conflict" quite bizarre. > > Kind regards, > R. > > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:52 PM Ron Bonica > > wrote: > > Bruno,____ > > __ __ > > While I like many things about this draft, I don’t think that it is > ready for adoption. Reasons follow:____ > > __ __ > > * Section 4.1 appears to contradict Section 4.3.1 of > draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header. In particular, consider > the behavior when Segments Left equals 0.____ > * Sections 4.13, 4.14. 4.21.1 and 4.21.2 appear to be in conflict > with RFC 8200 [1] [2].____ > * The intent of section 4.19 is unclear.____ > * As Adrian points out, the draft extends the semantics of the > IPv6 address. Such a decision may have wide-reaching impact, and > should be socialized with a wider community (6man, INTAREA WG, > V6OPS)____ > * The draft appears to be in conflict with > draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header regarding how extension > headers after the SRH are processed. According to > draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header, subsequent extension > headers are processed out of order, potentially in conflict with > RFC 8200. According to this draft, subsequent extension headers > are ignored.____ > > __ __ > > [1] According to RFC 8200, “Each extension header should occur at > most once, except for the Destination Options header, which should > occur at most twice (once before a Routing header and once before > the upper-layer header).”____ > > __ __ > > [2] According to RFC 8200, “extension headers must be processed > strictly in the order they appear  in the packet” . Sections 4.13 > and 4.14 violate this rule by prepending an SRH before the SRH that > is currently being processed.____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > __ __ > >                                                                                                      Ron____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > *From:* spring > *On Behalf Of > *bruno.decraene@orange.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 13, 2019 2:50 PM > *To:* SPRING WG > > *Cc:* draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org > > *Subject:* [spring] IPR Poll for > draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming____ > > __ __ > > Hi authors, SPRING WG,____ > > __ __ > > In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR.____ > > __ __ > > If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming please respond to this email.____ > > If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provide more details).____ > > __ __ > > If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR.____ > > If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond only if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed.____ > > __ __ > > This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confirmations have been received from all authors and contributors.____ > > __ __ > > Thank you,____ > > __ __ > > __(1)__https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07 ____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > --Bruno & Rob.____ > > __ __ > > _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > __ __ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc____ > > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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You are welcome to introduce your draft on the mailing list, in order to ra= ise awareness and quick off discussions . Thanks you, --Bruno -----Original Message----- From: Linda Dunbar [mailto:linda.dunbar@huawei.com]=20 Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 7:03 PM To: DECRAENE Bruno TGI/OLN; SPRING WG Cc: spring-chairs@ietf.org Subject: RE: IETF 104 - SPRING meeting Bruno,=20 Sorry for the late request, possible to add 5 minutes for the update to the= following draft?=20 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dunbar-sr-sdwan-over-hybrid-networks/ Thank you,=20 Linda Dunbar -----Original Message----- From: spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@o= range.com Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 12:16 PM To: SPRING WG Cc: spring-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] IETF 104 - SPRING meeting Hi SPRING WG, =20 The agenda for the SPRING working group session at IETF 104 has been upload= ed to https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/agenda-104-spring-00 We were oversubscribed for this session. Whether your draft made it to the agenda or not, you are invited to introdu= ce your draft/update to the mailing list. Please send your slides to both chairs before Tuesday, March 26, 13:00 loca= l time. Earlier is better. Sending PDF is usually better (than the automati= c conversion). A checklist is available on the wiki: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/spring/wik= i/Checklist%20for%20presenting%20at%20a%20SPRING%20meeting Thank you, See you in Prague. --Rob, Bruno -----Original Message----- From: spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@o= range.com Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 5:55 PM To: SPRING WG Cc: spring-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [spring] IETF 104 - SPRING meeting Hi WG, For IETF 104, the SPRING WG is currently scheduled to meet Thursday, March = 28, 13:50-15:50. We have a two hours session. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/agenda.html It is time to start building the SPRING WG agenda. Please send to chairs your request for a presentation slot, indicating draf= t name, speaker, and desired duration (covering presentation and discussion= ), before Monday 2019-03-11 COB. Before is better. If it is the first presentation of a non-WG draft, please first introduce y= our draft on the mailing list. Otherwise, please give a reason why it is required to have a new presentati= on slot. A checklist is available on the wiki: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/spring/wik= i/Checklist%20for%20presenting%20at%20a%20SPRING%20meeting Please send your slides before Tuesday, March 26, 13:00 local time. Earlier= is better. Thank you, --Bruno, Rob ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou = copies sans autorisation. 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Halpern" Cc: Ron Bonica , SPRING WG , "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007c3c7f05845b46aa" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 09:47:27 -0000 --0000000000007c3c7f05845b46aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joel, The way I would handle it is to proceed with the current document in SPRING and use it as indicator of benefits while in the same time issue a new draft in 6man updating RFC8200 not by duplicating this draft, but using it as justification for the update. Going now to 6man with individual submission not really related to IPv6 is IMHO not the best strategy. Btw this thread is about IPR pool ... I think Ron may have mixed the threads :) Best, R. On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 8:44 AM Joel M. Halpern wrote= : > Robert, your description of the conflict situation does not match my > understanding. > A new rFC can always update existing RFCs. However, it can't do so > silently. If this document wants to make a change to 8200's rules, it > needs to say so. And explain the benefit. And have the proposal > discussed in 6man. > > The current document that has requested working group adoption does not > address these needs. > > Yours, > Joel > > On 3/17/19 10:17 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote: > > Dear Ron, > > > > While authors may address your other questions allow me to express an > > opinion regarding your observation: > > > > "conflict with RFC 8200 [1] [2]" > > > > As written today RFC 8200 provides rules for insertion and handling of > > those extension headers which are enumerated in said RFC and are listed > > in IANA IPv6 Extension Header Types registry. SRH is not part of either > > of those lists. > > > > It also has been communicated very clearly by 6man chairs and ADs when > > RFC8200 was proceeding that any future document can update it when it > > defines new types of extension headers therefor I find your reasoning o= f > > "conflict" quite bizarre. > > > > Kind regards, > > R. > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:52 PM Ron Bonica > > > > wrote: > > > > Bruno,____ > > > > __ __ > > > > While I like many things about this draft, I don=E2=80=99t think th= at it is > > ready for adoption. Reasons follow:____ > > > > __ __ > > > > * Section 4.1 appears to contradict Section 4.3.1 of > > draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header. In particular, consider > > the behavior when Segments Left equals 0.____ > > * Sections 4.13, 4.14. 4.21.1 and 4.21.2 appear to be in conflict > > with RFC 8200 [1] [2].____ > > * The intent of section 4.19 is unclear.____ > > * As Adrian points out, the draft extends the semantics of the > > IPv6 address. Such a decision may have wide-reaching impact, an= d > > should be socialized with a wider community (6man, INTAREA WG, > > V6OPS)____ > > * The draft appears to be in conflict with > > draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header regarding how extension > > headers after the SRH are processed. According to > > draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header, subsequent extension > > headers are processed out of order, potentially in conflict wit= h > > RFC 8200. According to this draft, subsequent extension headers > > are ignored.____ > > > > __ __ > > > > [1] According to RFC 8200, =E2=80=9CEach extension header should oc= cur at > > most once, except for the Destination Options header, which should > > occur at most twice (once before a Routing header and once before > > the upper-layer header).=E2=80=9D____ > > > > __ __ > > > > [2] According to RFC 8200, =E2=80=9Cextension headers must be proce= ssed > > strictly in the order they appear in the packet=E2=80=9D . Section= s 4.13 > > and 4.14 violate this rule by prepending an SRH before the SRH that > > is currently being processed.____ > > > > > --0000000000007c3c7f05845b46aa Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Joel,

The way I would handle it is to pro= ceed with the current document in SPRING and use it as indicator of benefit= s while in the same time issue a new draft in 6man updating RFC8200 not by = duplicating this draft, but using it as justification for the update.=C2=A0=

Going now to 6man wit= h individual submission not really related to IPv6 is IMHO not the best str= ategy.=C2=A0

Btw this = thread is about IPR pool ... I think Ron may have mixed the threads :)=C2= =A0

Best,
R.
<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif= ;font-size:small">
On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 8:44 AM Joel M. Halpern <= ;jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:<= br>
Robert, your des= cription of the conflict situation does not match my
understanding.
A new rFC can always update existing RFCs.=C2=A0 However, it can't do s= o
silently.=C2=A0 If this document wants to make a change to 8200's rules= , it
needs to say so.=C2=A0 And explain the benefit.=C2=A0 And have the proposal=
discussed in 6man.

The current document that has requested working group adoption does not address these needs.

Yours,
Joel

On 3/17/19 10:17 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote:
> Dear Ron,
>
> While authors may address your other questions allow me to express an =
> opinion regarding your observation:
>
> "conflict with RFC 8200 [1] [2]"
>
> As written today RFC 8200 provides rules for insertion and handling of=
> those extension headers which are enumerated=C2=A0in said RFC and are = listed
> in IANA IPv6 Extension Header Types registry. SRH is not part of eithe= r
> of those lists.
>
> It also has been communicated very clearly by 6man chairs and ADs when=
> RFC8200 was proceeding that any future document can update it when it =
> defines new types of extension headers therefor I find your reasoning = of
> "conflict" quite bizarre.
>
> Kind regards,
> R.
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:52 PM Ron Bonica
> <rbonica=3D40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org
> <mailto:40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Bruno,____
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0__ __
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0While I like many things about this draft, I don=E2= =80=99t think that it is
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ready for adoption. Reasons follow:____
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0__ __
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0* Section 4.1 appears to contradict Section = 4.3.1 of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-heade= r. In particular, consider
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the behavior when Segments Left equal= s 0.____
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0* Sections 4.13, 4.14. 4.21.1 and 4.21.2 app= ear to be in conflict
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0with RFC 8200 [1] [2].____
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0* The intent of section 4.19 is unclear.____=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0* As Adrian points out, the draft extends th= e semantics of the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IPv6 address. Such a decision may hav= e wide-reaching impact, and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0should be socialized with a wider com= munity (6man, INTAREA WG,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0V6OPS)____
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0* The draft appears to be in conflict with >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-heade= r regarding how extension
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0headers after the SRH are processed. = According to
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-heade= r, subsequent extension
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0headers are processed out of order, p= otentially in conflict with
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0RFC 8200. According to this draft, su= bsequent extension headers
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0are ignored.____
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0__ __
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[1] According to RFC 8200, =E2=80=9CEach extension = header should occur at
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0most once, except for the Destination Options heade= r, which should
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0occur at most twice (once before a Routing header a= nd once before
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the upper-layer header).=E2=80=9D____
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0__ __
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[2] According to RFC 8200, =E2=80=9Cextension heade= rs must be processed
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0strictly in the order they appear =C2=A0in the pack= et=E2=80=9D . Sections 4.13
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and 4.14 violate this rule by prepending an SRH bef= ore the SRH that
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0is currently being processed.____
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
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[5.95.15.251]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t69sm12922389wmt.16.2019.03.18.05.48.18 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Mar 2019 05:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: stefano previdi In-Reply-To: <22596_1552502971_5C8950BB_22596_34_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 13:48:38 +0100 Cc: "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3789715F-39B2-4A01-BE7C-AE5A75E83E0B@previdi.net> References: <22596_1552502971_5C8950BB_22596_34_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> To: Bruno Decraene , SPRING WG X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 12:48:36 -0000 Hi, I support the working group adoption of this document. Thanks. s. > On Mar 13, 2019, at 7:49 PM, bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote: >=20 > Hi SPRING WG, > =20 > This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for = draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account = for the IETF week) > =20 > Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting = this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) > We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members = that are not co-authors of this draft. > =20 > We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a = technical review of this work at some later stage, such as before or = during WG the last call. > =20 > In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this = document. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR = position on this document. > There is currently 1 IPR filled (2) > =20 > (1) = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming= -07 > (2) = https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-srv6-n= etwork-programming&submit=3Ddraft > =20 > =20 > Thank you, > --Bruno & Rob. > =20 > = __________________________________________________________________________= _______________________________________________ >=20 > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations = confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez = recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les = messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, = deforme ou falsifie. 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John Leddy >=20 >> On Mar 13, 2019, at 7:49 PM, bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote: >>=20 >> Hi SPRING WG, >>=20 >> This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for dra= ft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the= IETF week) >>=20 >> Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this d= raft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) >> We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that= are not co-authors of this draft. >>=20 >> We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a techni= cal review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the= last call. >>=20 >> In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this docum= ent. 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In-Reply-To: <32033_1552503001_5C8950D8_32033_150_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A187A7@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> From: Ahmed Bashandy Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:11:34 +0200 Message-ID: To: Bruno Decraene Cc: SPRING WG List , draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000066bd26058473eccf" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 15:12:04 -0000 --00000000000066bd26058473eccf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" As a contributor, I am not aware of any IPR that had not already been disclosed Ahmed On Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 8:50 PM wrote: > Hi authors, SPRING WG, > > > > In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR. > > > > If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming please respond to this email. > > If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provide more details). > > > > If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR. > > If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond only if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed. > > > > This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confirmations have been received from all authors and contributors. > > > > Thank you, > > > > (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07 > > > > > > --Bruno & Rob. > > > > 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butors.
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Thank you,
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Halpern" Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:49:53 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 17:49:59 -0000 In my experience, if there is a requirement for collaborating with another working group on a topic, it is both helpful and important to spell that out and have it agreed as part of the adoption process. If it is not dealt with then, it is MUCH harder to deal with later. Yours, Joel On 3/20/19 6:39 PM, Darren Dukes (ddukes) wrote: > Hi Ron, the authors are suggesting this document for working group > adoption, not for last call. > > When the working group adopts it, the working group starts to work on it. > > If the working group decides to address header insertion and address > that with 6man then the working group can take on that work, but it does > not need to block this document being adopted. > > Darren > > *From: *spring on behalf of Ron Bonica > > *Date: *Sunday, March 17, 2019 at 4:53 PM > *To: *"bruno.decraene@orange.com" , SPRING WG > > *Cc: *"draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" > > *Subject: *Re: [spring] IPR Poll for > draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming > > Bruno, > > While I like many things about this draft, I don’t think that it is > ready for adoption. Reasons follow: > > * Section 4.1 appears to contradict Section 4.3.1 of > draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header. In particular, consider the > behavior when Segments Left equals 0. > * Sections 4.13, 4.14. 4.21.1 and 4.21.2 appear to be in conflict with > RFC 8200 [1] [2]. > * The intent of section 4.19 is unclear. > * As Adrian points out, the draft extends the semantics of the IPv6 > address. Such a decision may have wide-reaching impact, and should > be socialized with a wider community (6man, INTAREA WG, V6OPS) > * The draft appears to be in conflict with > draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header regarding how extension > headers after the SRH are processed. According to > draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header, subsequent extension headers > are processed out of order, potentially in conflict with RFC 8200. > According to this draft, subsequent extension headers are ignored. > > [1] According to RFC 8200, “Each extension header should occur at most > once, except for the Destination Options header, which should occur at > most twice (once before a Routing header and once before the upper-layer > header).” > > [2] According to RFC 8200, “extension headers must be processed strictly > in the order they appear  in the packet” . Sections 4.13 and 4.14 > violate this rule by prepending an SRH before the SRH that is currently > being processed. > >                                                                                                      Ron > > *From:* spring *On Behalf Of > *bruno.decraene@orange.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 13, 2019 2:50 PM > *To:* SPRING WG > *Cc:* draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org > *Subject:* [spring] IPR Poll for > draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming > > Hi authors, SPRING WG, > > > > In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR. > > > > If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming please respond to this email. > > If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provide more details). > > > > If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR. > > If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond only if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed. > > > > This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confirmations have been received from all authors and contributors. > > > > Thank you, > > > > (1)https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07 > > > > > > --Bruno & Rob. > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 15:17:55 -0000 --00000000000045e94305849c3d22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear Chairs and the WG, I am not aware of any IPR other than the one already disclosed. Thanks Robert On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:50 PM wrote: > Hi authors, SPRING WG, > > > > In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR. > > > > If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming please respond to this email. > > If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provide more details). > > > > If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR. > > If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond only if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed. > > > > This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confirmations have been received from all authors and contributors. > > > > Thank you, > > > > (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07 > > > > > > --Bruno & Rob. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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Robert


On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:50 PM <bruno.decraene@orange.com> wrote:
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it has been disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3=
669 and 5378 provide more details).
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If you are an *author or contributor* please resp=
ond to this email regardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR.=

If you are not an author or contributor, please e=
xplicitly respond only if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclo=
sed.
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This document will not advance into the working g=
roup until IPR confirmations have been received from all authors and contri=
butors.
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--Bruno & Rob.

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Thanks, Andrea Chiarato > Il giorno 13 mar 2019, alle ore 19:49, ha scritto: >=20 > Hi SPRING WG, > =20 > This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for draf= t-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the I= ETF week) > =20 > Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this dr= aft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) > We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that a= re not co-authors of this draft. > =20 > We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technic= al review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the l= ast call. > =20 > In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this docume= nt. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position o= n this document. > There is currently 1 IPR filled (2) > =20 > (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-progra= mming-07 > (2) https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-s= rv6-network-programming&submit=3Ddraft > =20 > =20 > Thank you, > --Bruno & Rob. > =20 > __________________________________________________________________________= _______________________________________________ >=20 > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confide= ntielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez rec= u ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages e= lectroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou= falsifie. 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Thanks,
Andrea Chiarato

Il giorno 13 mar 2019, alle ore 19:49, <bruno.decraene@orange.com> <bruno.decraene@orange.com> ha scritto:

Hi SPRING WG,
 
This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account for the IETF week)
 
Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03)
We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members that are not co-authors of this draft.
 
We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a technical review of this work at some later stage, such as before or during WG the last call.
 
In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this document. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position on this document.
There is currently 1 IPR filled (2)
 
(1)  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07
(2)  https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming&submit=draft
 
 
Thank you,
--Bruno & Rob.

 

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SPF:None; LANG:en; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: juniper.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1 x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: X97+VCYr/yUe2hUHe05vD5F0gOSt2ji9LtKBix/eHa3SysLqXF6Kb0OOz8flUNqtPPCpaEM0j0tkSzMFnwlebTnoc/oKsk9iW9gH2nfFpRZ4vIMVtqx1dSxMqric7b6ABwEBO/XgAvCkCkS0GsfN3axcX6SkrTlBuiAhx/MaHl413DXfRyJI33Gwh22AY3aijs3U16AnoTaM6JL4jceEAlSq+VFmdGIXY+xEDRVY6ljzPI7Mdjn/H1qWp5e1+ZEFgyKxaOCRoQc6SPRepJhOdD8436namBxbTSIvuXO9JEHMgqDPTJVIKv74L5bPLheMz16d3dAKTABvuBX0FmoDtfvh864aSusrhPZyHe9JMzw/8fhHgcNVPbBP0uRwgFYPKq+oxeo3xgYRAosMQboQgxKZzYkvoD95gW/Aa8A74iU= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: ebed38ee-6dc7-4fa7-55be-08d6b0144ce3 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 24 Mar 2019 04:50:55.3353 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BYAPR05MB4438 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-03-24_02:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_spam_notspam policy=outbound_spam score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1903240036 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] draft-bashandy-isis-srv6-extensions-05.txt X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 04:51:10 -0000 Thanks peter for response.one query As per draft "Each locator is a covering prefix for all SIDs provisioned on that node wh= ich have the matching topology/algorithm" So this means one locator per Topology/Algorithm ? My opinion is we should have multiple locator per topology/algorithm (One M= ain locator and rest N Anycast locator based upon requirements. N can be ze= ro,1,2...etc) Any cast flag should be set on Anycast locator. Main locator should be used= as Node SID (I mean SIDS under Main locator). Thanks Rajesh -----Original Message----- From: Peter Psenak =20 Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 6:13 PM To: Rajesh M ; cfilsfil@cisco.com; abashandy.ietf@gmai= l.com; bruno.decraene@orange.com; huzhibo@huawei.com Cc: Ron Bonica ; SPRING WG ; ipv6@iet= f.org Subject: Re: draft-bashandy-isis-srv6-extensions-05.txt Hi Rajesh, On 13/03/2019 07:02 , Rajesh M wrote: > 1) > > SRv6 Endpoint Function: 2 octets. As defined in=20 > [I-D.filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming] > > Legal function values for this sub-TLV are defined in Section 7. > > > > This should be Section 8 I think, section 8 contains Advertising=20 > Endpoint Behaviors. > > Al reference to section 7 , we must change to section 8 (4 places) > fair enough, will fix that in the next version. > > > 2) > > > > SRv6 Endpoint Function already mentions Endpoint Function Types. > > > > SIDusually will be a combination of Locator:Function:ARGS. > > > > Since SID already contains Function, why there is a need for=20 > additional > SRv6 Endpoint Function field ? Am I missing something. SRv6 Endpoint Function represents the behavior, which comes from "SRv6 Endpoint Behaviors Registry". That value is not present in the 128 bi= ts SID value, which is locally assigned by the advertising node. thanks, Peter > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | Flags | SRv6 Endpoint Function | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | SID (128 bits) . . . | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | SID (cont . . .) | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | SID (cont . . .) | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > | SID (cont . . .) | > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > From nobody Sun Mar 24 02:13:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A0E12798F; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 02:13:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YwdGMpIMUDSr; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 02:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-1.cisco.com (aer-iport-1.cisco.com [173.38.203.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 266BB127971; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 02:13:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2822; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1553418808; x=1554628408; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date: mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3nLP4aTPah7+h3ESxt4Wq3I8igh0dWOAgvTsdBk4jrA=; b=AeVNG1dVMaKoLqDe0U3jtuVHLXxEGIxB44NRVg4wtPm0KQKHuqgJWB/u e73oww8/1j1N0CcN4jvFrsPfa8N/kcrutQ2Hb5MKZqUdpTRm3ANiqcRaa dDoq02SHumQpT9PV3oEWgF9/Ug/BKB3f0o3qgc+EwaqIdkW4jp/aP7Dq7 g=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.60,256,1549929600"; d="scan'208";a="10933409" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-4.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA; 24 Mar 2019 09:13:26 +0000 Received: from [10.60.140.54] (ams-ppsenak-nitro5.cisco.com [10.60.140.54]) by aer-core-4.cisco.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x2O9DPCi024015; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 09:13:25 GMT To: Rajesh M , "cfilsfil@cisco.com" , "abashandy.ietf@gmail.com" , "bruno.decraene@orange.com" , "huzhibo@huawei.com" References: Cc: Ron Bonica , SPRING WG , "ipv6@ietf.org" From: Peter Psenak Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 10:13:25 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 10.60.140.54, ams-ppsenak-nitro5.cisco.com X-Outbound-Node: aer-core-4.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] draft-bashandy-isis-srv6-extensions-05.txt X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 09:13:31 -0000 On 24/03/2019 05:50 , Rajesh M wrote: > Thanks peter for response.one query > > As per draft > "Each locator is a covering prefix for all SIDs provisioned on that node which have the matching topology/algorithm" > > So this means one locator per Topology/Algorithm ? Locator is scoped per algo and topology. You can have multiple Locators for the same algo/topo pair. thanks, Peter > > > My opinion is we should have multiple locator per topology/algorithm (One Main locator and rest N Anycast locator based upon requirements. N can be zero,1,2...etc) > Any cast flag should be set on Anycast locator. Main locator should be used as Node SID (I mean SIDS under Main locator). > > Thanks > Rajesh > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Psenak > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 6:13 PM > To: Rajesh M ; cfilsfil@cisco.com; abashandy.ietf@gmail.com; bruno.decraene@orange.com; huzhibo@huawei.com > Cc: Ron Bonica ; SPRING WG ; ipv6@ietf.org > Subject: Re: draft-bashandy-isis-srv6-extensions-05.txt > > Hi Rajesh, > > > On 13/03/2019 07:02 , Rajesh M wrote: >> 1) >> >> SRv6 Endpoint Function: 2 octets. As defined in >> [I-D.filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming] >> >> Legal function values for this sub-TLV are defined in Section 7. >> >> >> >> This should be Section 8 I think, section 8 contains Advertising >> Endpoint Behaviors. >> >> Al reference to section 7 , we must change to section 8 (4 places) >> > > fair enough, will fix that in the next version. > >> >> >> 2) >> >> >> >> SRv6 Endpoint Function already mentions Endpoint Function Types. >> >> >> >> SIDusually will be a combination of Locator:Function:ARGS. >> >> >> >> Since SID already contains Function, why there is a need for >> additional >> SRv6 Endpoint Function field ? Am I missing something. > > > SRv6 Endpoint Function represents the behavior, which comes from > "SRv6 Endpoint Behaviors Registry". That value is not present in the 128 bits SID value, which is locally assigned by the advertising node. > > thanks, > Peter > > > > > >> >> >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> >> | Flags | SRv6 Endpoint Function | >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> >> | SID (128 bits) . . . | >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> >> | SID (cont . . .) | >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> >> | SID (cont . . .) | >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> >> | SID (cont . . .) | >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> >> >> > > . > From nashwath@gmail.com Fri Mar 22 09:35:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22FA13124B for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:35:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.493 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.493 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.506] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s7JVfecJ0Mfs for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf1-x130.google.com (mail-lf1-x130.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FAB6131241 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x130.google.com with SMTP id r25so1800482lfn.13 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:35:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=DwLKpgWnKlbpX1RZu4Mxb1hbQbZAFwWnpb0ABdKKoGE=; b=M+nkeiz8I7DCP3uynwerzDvTE6xafcCUMN6NI6kPbG9oqr3Iv8MeMnyZjv/aE9q1+B Sh4A99EzGAJoyzw4QDZ1PUD8Rf1Aw21+Y3jW9ppcj2gi3X1UTcmMXicB50VOzKSTytIF anf73SRLUyLLLruoPf6jStyK8oyFQJTOtHN8B+TR8OqdzgB+1TJ7pdBkxLg2ODlJb8XD ifygvJO+h2HFCJj6SNEoWajs9QBNhRU+1GwmuzIfZ8EJDhNVP9f3IGXiJtIY/v/1xJ6m ngCKUpi+d1+OOcC4UMh3hQMDLPmilzhTFSKOsFPFBqGM0DLbDV/S8tRCh8o6BCov3VOa Uw6g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=DwLKpgWnKlbpX1RZu4Mxb1hbQbZAFwWnpb0ABdKKoGE=; b=bJZlxvUBKWdF/bGrDIlfElMgymU+Y5dvJTAgjlqFBCvVHRsaJz2eHcufxpw/BXMICU 6YMdsKIeAhdE6VhY3QQP4/pb6PKHBtAr7zxxVjKXQhTVaXKVn40Wuq/1TqxgR0+Ngtqe xNHhh+SyBm3mF6tKOTeDNKM/giSTWP46T73s0YuWRIYkLmuo4QBZw8/ran0g8bB9w+qa b/scrO+tmvBwpaLxZONwscANey69wa2XzPitD+Bjrt7oeuVJt0GEtdxzrVWemjrh90Xc Rj8Oi9742pdW/QLEt9ny5lvKiwoo90j8Yy6mpj41Mff8Kz5z2FBoB57DNXS31hAuT3w+ acxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUBV+pTwjsefEdpCN1bnpHOin/m+LgACinHP/ytbSlXf0B7XZN6 JYrR6Mn9eZigF4buFZ3FKoorDDRFF9yhkblwC/Q= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx5ip4ElXhA/Et7iihsSApJsfTCmxCMLEztHxJqVVEyIKT9hBtl3dg8UWH+VuGy+dasTPiGvsNigN3vnll9zME= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:4310:: with SMTP id l16mr5549841lfh.58.1553272518400; Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:35:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ashwath Narasimhan Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:35:07 -0700 Message-ID: To: acee@cisco.com, pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com, jefftant.ietf@gmail.com, yingzhen.qu@huawei.com, spring@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b2e10b0584b170b8" Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 04:00:56 -0700 Subject: [spring] IETF SR CMN YANG X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 18:12:28 -0000 --000000000000b2e10b0584b170b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear Authors, I am looking at the YANG file defined by you for SR, however, I noticed that you have no support for statistics (Tx, Rx counters) in the YANG file. Can you point me to any document that defines how statistics can be retrieved for a particular destination prefix sid via Netconf/Yang since these objects are dynamic and created on the fly.? Thanks, -Ashwath --000000000000b2e10b0584b170b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Authors,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0I am looking at the YANG fi= le defined by you for SR, however, I noticed that you have no support for s= tatistics (Tx, Rx counters) in the YANG file. Can you point me to any docum= ent that defines how=C2=A0 statistics can be retrieved for a particular des= tination prefix sid via Netconf/Yang since these objects are dynamic and cr= eated on the fly.?
Thanks,
-Ashwath
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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, Please find few comments on this draft. 1. Its better to have SRv6 Locator TLV similar to what is there in draft= -bashandy-isis-srv6-extensions-05. 1. Draft says O-flag: If set, then router is capable of supporting SRH O= -bit Flags, as specified in [I-D.ietf-6man-segment-routing-header]. This must be O-flag: If set, the router supports use of the O-bit in the Segment Routing Header(SRH) as defined in [I-D.ali-spring-srv6-oam]. 1. SRv6 SID Link Attribute Sub-TLV, SRv6 SID LAN Link Attribute Sub-TLV = here SID Flags must define B-Flag: Backup flag. S-Flag. Set flag. P-Flag. Persistent flag. Thanks Rajesh --_000_BYAPR05MB482118A49ACF06CB7130DB48BE5D0BYAPR05MB4821namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,

 

Please find few comments on this draft.

  1. Its better to have SRv6 Locator TLV similar to what is there in draft-bashandy-isis-srv6-extensions-05.<= /o:p>

 <= /p>

  1. Draft says O-flag: If = set, then router is capable of supporting SRH O-bit
    2. <= /ol>

    Flags, as specified in [I-D.ietf-6man-segment-routing-heade= r]. This must be

     

          O= -flag: If set, the router supports use of the O-bit

          i= n the Segment Routing Header(SRH) as defined in

    [I-D.ali-spring-srv6-oam].

       

    1. SRv6 = SID Link Attribute Sub-TLV, SRv6 SID LAN Link Attribute Sub-TLV here SID Fl= ags must define=

     

    B-Flag: Backup flag.

    S-Flag. Set flag.

    P-Flag. Persistent flag.

     

    Thanks

    Rajesh

     

     

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rajesh, Thanks for your review of the draft. As you've noticed, this draft is not y= et in sync with the IS-IS SRv6 specifications. Please expect an update to t= his draft soon - likely during this IETF week or shortly thereafter. Thanks, Ketan From: Rajesh M Sent: 24 March 2019 20:02 To: lizhenbin@huawei.com; huzhibo@huawei.com; dean.cheng@huawei.com; Ketan = Talaulikar (ketant) ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) Cc: Ron Bonica ; SPRING WG Subject: draft-li-ospf-ospfv3-srv6-extensions-03 Hi All, Please find few comments on this draft. 1. Its better to have SRv6 Locator TLV similar to what is there in draft= -bashandy-isis-srv6-extensions-05. 1. Draft says O-flag: If set, then router is capable of supporting SRH O= -bit Flags, as specified in [I-D.ietf-6man-segment-routing-header]. This must be O-flag: If set, the router supports use of the O-bit in the Segment Routing Header(SRH) as defined in [I-D.ali-spring-srv6-oam]. 1. SRv6 SID Link Attribute Sub-TLV, SRv6 SID LAN Link Attribute Sub-TLV = here SID Flags must define B-Flag: Backup flag. S-Flag. Set flag. P-Flag. Persistent flag. Thanks Rajesh --_000_SN6PR11MB284543E4539D19F0694F5D2FC15D0SN6PR11MB2845namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Rajesh= ,

&nbs= p;

Thanks fo= r your review of the draft. As you’ve noticed, this draft is not yet = in sync with the IS-IS SRv6 specifications. Please expect an update to this= draft soon – likely during this IETF week or shortly thereafter.

&nbs= p;

Thanks,

Ketan

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From: Rajesh M <mrajesh@juniper.net>
Sent: 24 March 2019 20:02
To: lizhenbin@huawei.com; huzhibo@huawei.com; dean.cheng@huawei.com;= Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <ketant@cisco.com>; Peter Psenak (ppsenak)= <ppsenak@cisco.com>
Cc: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>; SPRING WG <spring@iet= f.org>
Subject: draft-li-ospf-ospfv3-srv6-extensions-03

 

Hi All,

 

Please find few comments on thi= s draft.

  1. Its better to have = SRv6 Locator TLV similar to what is there in draft-bashandy-isis= -srv6-extensions-05.

 = ;

  1. Draft s= ays O-flag: If set, then router is capable of supporting SRH O-bit

Flags, as specified in [I-D.i= etf-6man-segment-routing-header]. This must be

 

   = ;   O-flag: If set, the router supports use of the O-bit

   = ;   in the Segment Routing Header(SRH) as defined in

[I-D.ali-spring-srv6-oam].

   

  1. SRv6 SID Link Attribute Sub-TLV, SRv6 SID LAN Link Attribute Sub-TLV h= ere SID Flags must define

 

B-Flag: Backup fl= ag.

S-Flag. Set flag.

P-Flag. Persisten= t flag.

 =

Thanks=

Rajesh=

 =

 =

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We=E2=80=99ve submitted a draft that to bring latest deployment status of S= Rv6 in operators networks. We authors hope that it helps to progress the discussion in spring wg. Cheers, --satoru > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > > > Title : SRv6 Implementation and Deployment Status > Authors : Satoru Matsushima > Clarence Filsfils > Zafar Ali > Zhenbin Li > Filename : draft-matsushima-spring-srv6-deployment-status-00.tx= t > Pages : 16 > Date : 2019-03-24 > > Abstract: > This draft provides an overview of IPv6 Segment Routing (SRv6) > deployment status. It lists various SRv6 features that have been > deployed in the production networks. It also provides an overview of > SRv6 implementation and interoperability testing status. > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-matsushima-spring-srv6-deployment-= status/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsushima-spring-srv6-deployment-statu= s-00 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-matsushima-spring-srv6-deploy= ment-status-00 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt From nobody Mon Mar 25 00:29:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7131203C9 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:28:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -17.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KGHV5_J7gQla for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it1-x12d.google.com (mail-it1-x12d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 787DB120390 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it1-x12d.google.com with SMTP id u65so2993983itc.2 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:28:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=8IJHQ7+sY/z2pLTe1dBWDKNnRsbDvYYWvJUCgzILOX8=; b=R3CeeTtfcipyW6gE/SHkri6Ijw9EWxt/v1Mt2OcwiP08NCrtnv+xh92hB7TeVt5UfY munk3TkPKobDIduGZ4mtSwGO7g5idq6FQ/BH0kyMI1B3gUF/mkGYMFcAW8F0JPN1ciNn 5IyhwNKPwJ8pZuFpnYwvBvs+B6j/kekFELOxlH5WFlT4KCuZbv8/UJ2KPRn5SwXYCd3k fjYtDiLtvmyWps3ygvhEglJ7qIAiTRjAdVS2MPYcXAUfzaRIXYXwnSfO2ZLfjwsILs0R WkDjccYu1G58rGOJwEckuIHVw61fXaKfAHC3TskeAAZ1asXPvOpwzYKsJ3tyuqUs40Zt 1qiA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8IJHQ7+sY/z2pLTe1dBWDKNnRsbDvYYWvJUCgzILOX8=; b=SWqG9YxyzNBoAPSevvLXr1JjLVbnVGSG5DV4Re7bCA8+u55wloiND4P6Ymo4WLQFi5 bGCUEztkH3p84mhHAZpAn5vQ8b6ceV8kAS8MpzFc3inGtSljRVdiH5QC47uPMzYN+kG/ t52vT1JSFCXeZlNhkzv66e8S8vPATES8ONmjvlfe2kgRI6ubCVtwP/scwFFinXe/9EUv 1swmn/hWVzJKTso6aB87D5H7WNoCnL878qLwCz3Dx6A2uIsQsNyVG2qtj4Ac1L1AE9Pu /4C1/q+sHt+/7YfKYZOTLwsaifiZ3/clcMhwTK7xCM4YRVdt6GyjtBsmf6cYezJnueIi P+YA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWvLkZW4f7MmheW4SKYA/UCStr1hUe7Pu/wIDKwzFAldhKtZqLP RyJ8mlvyjbAxQWndiCLIoXJ4s5ciFWixvP/2fFwa6rEgnPvUDg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx046awqTYrGVecQ+/ly/j5Ks/IptID+VHpcPjaRhJf3jmKtilsiA1+XbT8U4bzhQXI714Q0EGwvAekpAHfkZ0= X-Received: by 2002:a24:7c52:: with SMTP id a79mr1852037itd.51.1553498931452; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 00:28:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Przemyslaw Krol Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 08:28:14 +0100 Message-ID: To: draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy@ietf.org Cc: spring@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f840c10584e627a2" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IANA assignment for Policy Name, ENLP, Priority Sub-TLVs X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 07:29:01 -0000 --000000000000f840c10584e627a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Greetings, Not a major issue but wanted to confirm if there is any progress with this one. thanks, pk On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 5:42 PM Przemyslaw Krol wrote: > Greetings, > > Has the process for IANA Type # allocation for Policy Name Sub-TLV > been > initiated yet? > Same applies to ENLP and Priority Sub-TLVs, fwiw. > > Thank you, > pk > > -- > Przemyslaw "PK" Krol | Strategic Network Engineer ing | pkrol@google.com > -- Przemyslaw "PK" Krol | Strategic Network Engineer ing | pkrol@google.com --000000000000f840c10584e627a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings,

Not a major issue but wanted= to confirm if there is any progress with this one.

thanks,
pk

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 5:42 PM Przemyslaw Kro= l <pkrol@google.com> wrote:
= Greetings,

Has the process for IANA Type # allocation fo= r=C2=A0Policy Name Sub-TLV=C2= =A0been initiated yet?
Same applies to ENLP and Priority Sub-TLVs= , fwiw.

Thank you,
pk
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AB86985C7A198F72C480FFB635839FC32BC65ED64804DB9AF542F5042502D62A2002:9 X-OriginatorOrg: proximus.com X-TM-AS-MML: disable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 09:00:02 -0000 --_000_AM0PR08MB3202239CD0646331A81BC398FF5E0AM0PR08MB3202eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, As a contributor, not aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed. Bart This e-mail cannot be used for other purposes than Proximus business use. S= ee more on https://www.proximus.be/maildisclaimer From: bruno.decraene@orange.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 7:50 PM To: SPRING WG Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org Subject: IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming Hi authors, SPRING WG, In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network= -programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR. If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-= programming please respond to this email. If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed in a= ccordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provide more = details). If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email regardle= ss of whether or not you're aware of any IPR. 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Hi,

 

As a contributor, not aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed.

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 7:50 PM
To: SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org
Subject: IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming=

 

Hi authors, SPRING WG,
 
In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-fi=
lsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR.<=
o:p>
 
If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-fil=
sfils-spring-srv6-network-programming please respond to this email.
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ond to this email regardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR.
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xplicitly respond only if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclo=
sed.
 
This document will not advance into the working g=
roup until IPR confirmations have been received from all authors and contri=
butors.
 
Thank you,
 
(1)  <=
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--_000_AM0PR08MB3202239CD0646331A81BC398FF5E0AM0PR08MB3202eurp_-- From pier.luigi.ventre@uniroma2.it Sun Mar 24 14:42:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6F612015A; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:42:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kxJt_Rg7h73i; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.uniroma2.it (smtp.uniroma2.it [160.80.6.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14ED012016B; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpauth.uniroma2.it (smtpauth.uniroma2.it [160.80.6.47]) by smtp-2015.uniroma2.it (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8) with ESMTP id x2OLgPik027915 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 24 Mar 2019 22:42:30 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.19] (c-73-231-4-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [73.231.4.159]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpauth.uniroma2.it (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id x2OLgBsN009458 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 24 Mar 2019 22:42:16 +0100 From: Pier Luigi Ventre Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2ABD12FF-5489-4B4A-824C-AEF2BE314283" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 14:42:07 -0700 In-Reply-To: <22596_1552502971_5C8950BB_22596_34_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Cc: SPRING WG , "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" To: bruno.decraene@orange.com References: <22596_1552502971_5C8950BB_22596_34_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A18771@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.100.0 at smtp-2015 X-Virus-Status: Clean Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 02:35:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [spring] Working Group Adoption Call for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 21:45:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_2ABD12FF-5489-4B4A-824C-AEF2BE314283 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, we support the adoption of this draft. Thanks Pier > On Mar 13, 2019, at 11:49 AM, = wrote: >=20 > Hi SPRING WG, > =20 > This email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for = draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account = for the IETF week) > =20 > Please indicate your support, comments, or objection, for adopting = this draft as a working group item by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03) > We are particularly interested in hearing from working group members = that are not co-authors of this draft. > =20 > We are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a = technical review of this work at some later stage, such as before or = during WG the last call. > =20 > In parallel to this adoption call, I will send an IPR call for this = document. We will need all authors and contributors to confirm their IPR = position on this document. > There is currently 1 IPR filled (2) > =20 > (1) = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming= -07 = > (2) = https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-spring-srv6-n= etwork-programming&submit=3Ddraft = > =20 > =20 > Thank you, > --Bruno & Rob. > =20 > = __________________________________________________________________________= _______________________________________________ >=20 > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations = confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez = recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les = messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, = deforme ou falsifie. 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we support the adoption of this = draft.

Thanks
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On Mar = 13, 2019, at 11:49 AM, <bruno.decraene@orange.com> <bruno.decraene@orange.com> wrote:

Hi SPRING WG,
 
This =
email initiates a three week call for working group adoption for =
draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming. (Three weeks to account =
for the IETF week)
 
Please indicate your support, =
comments, or objection, for adopting this draft as a working group item =
by April, 3rd, 2019 (aka 2019-04-03)
We are particularly interested in hearing from =
working group members that are not co-authors of this draft.
 
We =
are also looking for volunteers who would be ready to perform a =
technical review of this work at some later stage, such as before or =
during WG the last call.
 
In parallel to this adoption =
call, I will send an IPR call for this document. We will need all =
authors and contributors to confirm their IPR position on this =
document.
There is currently 1 IPR =
filled (2)
 
(1)  https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-=
programming-07
(2)  https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?id=3Ddraft-filsfils-sp=
ring-srv6-network-programming&submit=3Ddraft
 
 
Thank you,
--Bruno & Rob.
 
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tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hfjI2yxEuchS; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 06:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A4A6120047; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 06:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LHREML712-CAH.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 703839F17CB694ED71F3; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 13:07:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lhreml705-chm.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.54) by LHREML712-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 13:07:40 +0000 Received: from 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Message-ID: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.220.66.195] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C7C2E1C43D652C4E9E49FE7517C236CB025AA7BEdggeml529mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: [spring] A Light Weight iOAM in SRv6 to eliminate the large overhead of IOAM metadata X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 13:07:44 -0000 --_000_C7C2E1C43D652C4E9E49FE7517C236CB025AA7BEdggeml529mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi iOAMers, We proposed a light SRv6 iOAM method in SPRING: https://tools.ietf.org/html= /draft-li-spring-light-weight-srv6-ioam-00 In our method, the IOAM data can reuse the space of SID list, which won't e= xtend the length of header. It may be a complementary solution to solve the problem of large overhead o= f IOAM packets, which is a pain for hardware. Hope it help your discussion in IOAM side meetings. Also copy to Spring and 6man since there two WGs are related to this draft. Comments and questions are welcome! Thanks, Cheng --_000_C7C2E1C43D652C4E9E49FE7517C236CB025AA7BEdggeml529mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi iOAMers,

 

We proposed a light SRv6 iOAM m= ethod in SPRING: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-li-spring-light-weight-srv6-ioam-0= 0

 

In our method, the IOAM data ca= n reuse the space of SID list, which won’t extend the length of heade= r.

 

It may be a complementary solut= ion to solve the problem of large overhead of IOAM packets, which is a pain= for hardware.

 

Hope it help your discussion in= IOAM side meetings.

 

Also copy to Spring and 6man si= nce there two WGs are related to this draft.

 

Comments and questions are welc= ome!

 

Thanks,

Cheng

--_000_C7C2E1C43D652C4E9E49FE7517C236CB025AA7BEdggeml529mbxchi_-- From nobody Wed Mar 27 06:38:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CEA120273; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 06:38:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Oz3kvOw6nSXX; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 06:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58657120005; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 06:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 5678BAA629C4203F8628; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 13:37:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML703-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.39) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 13:37:57 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.5]) by SJCEML703-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.5.195]) with mapi id 14.03.0439.000; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 06:37:43 -0700 From: James N Guichard To: "spring@ietf.org" , "6man@ietf.org" <6man@ietf.org> CC: James N Guichard Thread-Topic: I-D Action: draft-guichard-spring-srv6-simplified-firewall-00.txt Thread-Index: AQHU4xkK8YYmEoTXgkiEqePVQihsXaYfaBdw Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 13:37:42 +0000 Message-ID: References: <155352493796.29085.9039908769603517747@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <155352493796.29085.9039908769603517747@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.220.68.211] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: [spring] FW: I-D Action: draft-guichard-spring-srv6-simplified-firewall-00.txt X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 13:38:02 -0000 Dear WGs: The applicability of Service Function Chaining with metadata in the SRv6 Ne= twork Programming model is obvious. This document describes a scalable firewall use-case, that decreases the nu= mber of rules by one to two orders of magnitude by leveraging source and de= stination class information in the SRH TLV. The TLV is populated by the head-end node and a lookup is triggered by the = firewall's service SID function. Any other intermediate SR endpoint simply = ignores the TLV, such that its presence in the SRH has no impact on the pac= ket processing behavior or performance. The draft builds on the network programmability capability of SRv6. Specifi= cally, the ability for an intermediate SRv6 endpoint to determine whether t= o process or ignore some specific SRH TLVs based on the SID function. This = allows service and underlay instructions to be combined in the same segment= list without restrictions on the service capabilities or performance degra= dation in the routers processing underlay instructions. This document is supported by PoC implementation in FD.io VPP and the iptab= les-based SERA firewall . Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: I-D-Announce [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of inte= rnet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 10:42 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-guichard-spring-srv6-simplified-firewall-00.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. Title : Simplifying Firewall Rules with Network Programmi= ng and SRH Metadata Authors : James N Guichard Clarence Filsfils Daniel Bernier Zhenbin Li Francois Clad Pablo Camarillo Ahmed AbdelSalam Filename : draft-guichard-spring-srv6-simplified-firewall-00.txt Pages : 7 Date : 2019-03-25 Abstract: A clear application of the SRv6 Network Programming model consists in steering, in a stateless manner, packets through a Service Function Chain (SFC). Each Service Function (SF) is identified by a segment. Each SF can enrich its operation thanks to metadata present in the SRH. This document describes a practical use-case where the SF is a firewall and the metadata helps to drastically decrease the number of rules that need to be maintained by the operation team. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-guichard-spring-srv6-simplified-fire= wall/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-guichard-spring-srv6-simplified-firewall-= 00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-guichard-spring-srv6-simplified= -firewall-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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<20482_1552670169_5C8BDDD9_20482_291_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A1CE48@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.114.13.245] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IETF 104 - SPRING meeting X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 15:09:34 -0000 Hi presenters, > Please send your slides to both chairs before Tuesday, March 26, 13:00 lo= cal time. Earlier is better. Sending PDF is usually better (than the automa= tic conversion). Please send your slides to both chairs. Now, would be a good time. I have uploaded the slides that I've received so far. Also I would welcome early volunteers for jabber and minutes takers. Thank you. --Bruno -----Original Message----- From: bruno.decraene@orange.com [mailto:bruno.decraene@orange.com]=20 Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 6:16 PM To: SPRING WG Cc: spring-chairs@ietf.org Subject: RE: IETF 104 - SPRING meeting Hi SPRING WG, =20 The agenda for the SPRING working group session at IETF 104 has been upload= ed to=20 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/agenda-104-spring-00 We were oversubscribed for this session. Whether your draft made it to the agenda or not, you are invited to introdu= ce your draft/update to the mailing list. Please send your slides to both chairs before Tuesday, March 26, 13:00 loca= l time. Earlier is better. Sending PDF is usually better (than the automati= c conversion). A checklist is available on the wiki: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/spring/wik= i/Checklist%20for%20presenting%20at%20a%20SPRING%20meeting Thank you, See you in Prague. --Rob, Bruno -----Original Message----- From: spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@o= range.com Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 5:55 PM To: SPRING WG Cc: spring-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [spring] IETF 104 - SPRING meeting Hi WG, For IETF 104, the SPRING WG is currently scheduled to meet Thursday, March = 28, 13:50-15:50. We have a two hours session. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/agenda.html It is time to start building the SPRING WG agenda. Please send to chairs your request for a presentation slot, indicating draf= t name, speaker, and desired duration (covering presentation and discussion= ), before Monday 2019-03-11 COB. Before is better. 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28 Mar 2019 11:00:50 +0000 Received: from [10.61.254.187] ([10.61.254.187]) by aer-core-4.cisco.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x2SB0mFN024837; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 11:00:49 GMT To: Rajesh M , "cfilsfil@cisco.com" , "abashandy.ietf@gmail.com" , "bruno.decraene@orange.com" , "huzhibo@huawei.com" References: Cc: Ron Bonica , SPRING WG , "ipv6@ietf.org" From: Peter Psenak Message-ID: <3dbf73f0-12f0-8f3d-fc49-6dff5ec517e4@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 12:00:48 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 10.61.254.187, [10.61.254.187] X-Outbound-Node: aer-core-4.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] draft-bashandy-isis-srv6-extensions-05.txt X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 11:00:59 -0000 On 28/03/2019 11:09 , Rajesh M wrote: > One more query guys 😊 > > draft-bashandy-isis-srv6-extensions-05.txt says: > Section 3. Advertising Supported Algorithms > SRv6 capable router indicates supported algorithm(s) by advertising the SR Algorithm sub TLV as defined in [I-D.ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions]. > > https://tools.ietf.org/pdf/draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions-22.pdf: > "The SR-Algorithm sub-TLV is optional, it MAY only appear a single time inside the Router Capability TLV" > > > So we have only one SR-algorithm sub-TLV for SRV6 as well as for SR ? yes. > If we specify an algorithm in SR-Algorithm sub-TLV, it means that algorithm is supported for both SR as well as for SRV6 ? yes, algo support is not data-plane specific. > Selectively we cannot specify supported algorithm for SR,SRV6. no. If you need a data-plane specific algo, you can define an algo that would only include nodes from a specific data-plane. thanks, Peter > > > > Juniper Internal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Psenak > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 2:43 PM > To: Rajesh M ; cfilsfil@cisco.com; abashandy.ietf@gmail.com; bruno.decraene@orange.com; huzhibo@huawei.com > Cc: Ron Bonica ; SPRING WG ; ipv6@ietf.org > Subject: Re: draft-bashandy-isis-srv6-extensions-05.txt > > On 24/03/2019 05:50 , Rajesh M wrote: >> Thanks peter for response.one query >> >> As per draft >> "Each locator is a covering prefix for all SIDs provisioned on that node which have the matching topology/algorithm" >> >> So this means one locator per Topology/Algorithm ? > > Locator is scoped per algo and topology. You can have multiple Locators for the same algo/topo pair. > > thanks, > Peter > >> >> >> My opinion is we should have multiple locator per topology/algorithm >> (One Main locator and rest N Anycast locator based upon requirements. N can be zero,1,2...etc) Any cast flag should be set on Anycast locator. Main locator should be used as Node SID (I mean SIDS under Main locator). >> >> Thanks >> Rajesh >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peter Psenak >> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 6:13 PM >> To: Rajesh M ; cfilsfil@cisco.com; >> abashandy.ietf@gmail.com; bruno.decraene@orange.com; >> huzhibo@huawei.com >> Cc: Ron Bonica ; SPRING WG ; >> ipv6@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: draft-bashandy-isis-srv6-extensions-05.txt >> >> Hi Rajesh, >> >> >> On 13/03/2019 07:02 , Rajesh M wrote: >>> 1) >>> >>> SRv6 Endpoint Function: 2 octets. As defined in >>> [I-D.filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming] >>> >>> Legal function values for this sub-TLV are defined in Section 7. >>> >>> >>> >>> This should be Section 8 I think, section 8 contains Advertising >>> Endpoint Behaviors. >>> >>> Al reference to section 7 , we must change to section 8 (4 places) >>> >> >> fair enough, will fix that in the next version. >> >>> >>> >>> 2) >>> >>> >>> >>> SRv6 Endpoint Function already mentions Endpoint Function Types. >>> >>> >>> >>> SIDusually will be a combination of Locator:Function:ARGS. >>> >>> >>> >>> Since SID already contains Function, why there is a need for >>> additional >>> SRv6 Endpoint Function field ? Am I missing something. >> >> >> SRv6 Endpoint Function represents the behavior, which comes from >> "SRv6 Endpoint Behaviors Registry". That value is not present in the 128 bits SID value, which is locally assigned by the advertising node. >> >> thanks, >> Peter >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>> >>> | Flags | SRv6 Endpoint Function | >>> >>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>> >>> | SID (128 bits) . . . | >>> >>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>> >>> | SID (cont . . .) | >>> >>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>> >>> | SID (cont . . .) | >>> >>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>> >>> | SID (cont . . .) | >>> >>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>> >>> >>> >> >> . >> From nobody Thu Mar 28 07:01:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73239120466 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 07:01:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zLa9sj00Mf8P for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 07:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wr1-x42c.google.com (mail-wr1-x42c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CBC8120428 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 07:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-x42c.google.com with SMTP id p10so23083031wrq.1 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 07:01:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version; bh=Clo/57XvBziuyHxkcYxHjtNl3UVt9DBJzDYmJBi/AkE=; b=VW89NVH9slExyfb0MmM9h6xK3RsQr2tqCx0tSwpA8a5YVTlrptO5pbHEWrVk6jP+KZ M4pX8n+hlC1C3Lh9sl5+5TUZk//q8vtMQDhfnpPn2ZueuK9JO1MfuDOasPSl1XJpTjaG kDiIAW3XRr+fFcox8tZTgVzgZbMQ67xT+ITPzq9k0oOQ2zqKG4Sw+AT2OVTcqNVDQrFA CpHUZLmNGRBf53FdEmjK+8agv8zXh+dqDTcDGbxIG/DZ5YZLwxIFdfrQq9Na+1zBdzMy m5aEk7AH6moKqVIVIXVMK7B4qo8QP6Y/GckBS+pTIc+mImcR4aTRBTxN+MzzXeGes3CO sgbg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version; bh=Clo/57XvBziuyHxkcYxHjtNl3UVt9DBJzDYmJBi/AkE=; b=cINi54PDjkP2Li+vXEyZzTUSmjtwyJuYMLQY11Ey3gOOGlpJF3viLSZsUb4vxy9R2B 8BDya1b680hUQnrgYJJTMRP8jiW/+Jbss8k4Q5Ej237LmGvmM0WrjcI5kp8qdd9sqH+G 0529DFzNHzBXYX4Qu0dpwatv66pyGR2W7GJLXR/nZ0gnnqlVZmJUssk1y3yuNwbveyae WM5qqwXBQpxn2Jp5PN1BPCgxJ+Jp49JDqBPJh/mhdAThTlzJT3uoiegmVXnzwr80sEiN ogPpyiqMx2uGD2gXzOOVVseKDz6EvOZ4bd/AKrTj3vNhd/MdIjS0sP/D8S+q/+LZDWy8 2vEg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW4ZfrFy7/GnS8M6aN+PvYYK2Wtx/160CEuo2kQzwvwGTyy240O KOGRbrTLzusHv/Uk7TogD/cWOEUKjNA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzUwyi639wr9Ng5zf9DKZ9isss1DZ8NDKnz3y87S52twphD10isYWAeSyhmyyeBYr8TD6k0vQ== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4f07:: with SMTP id c7mr25830470wru.104.1553781683933; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 07:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [2001:67c:1232:144:a0a9:4d04:170::] ([2001:67c:1232:144:799f:5328:e37a:96f8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x5sm29166213wrt.72.2019.03.28.07.01.22 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 28 Mar 2019 07:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 15:01:12 +0100 From: Jeff Tantsura To: SPRING WG List Message-ID: <8a546e0e-85ec-41e8-aac1-df795e233497@Spark> In-Reply-To: References: X-Readdle-Message-ID: 8a546e0e-85ec-41e8-aac1-df795e233497@Spark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="5c9cd3ad_47398c89_159ec" Archived-At: Subject: [spring] RP1 research paper Technical feasibility of Segment Routing Traffic Engineering to steer traffic through VNFs X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 14:01:30 -0000 --5c9cd3ad_47398c89_159ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline the research paper mentioned at the mike Cheers, Jeff --5c9cd3ad_47398c89_159ec Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
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Seems= useful.=20 Two comments/clarification -=20 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the Internet was ~= 500B and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. Of course,= if we look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size (1000~1400B= ), then the overhead would be a lot less.=20 We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs large size to c= alculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (say, as much as= >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the latest VNI studies )= , then the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on the traffic w= ould be even less over all.=20 2. Also, what % of savings do we get by using compressed RH vs non-compress= ed RH ? 24B vs 64B per packet !!=20 Cheers, Rajiv =20 From nobody Thu Mar 28 08:44:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BADB1200CC; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 08:44:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=joelhalpern.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s4f6QkZaLn7M; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 08:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maila2.tigertech.net (maila2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1ACA120114; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 08:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44VTgv46vjz1qsXq; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 08:44:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=joelhalpern.com; s=2.tigertech; t=1553787867; bh=GLBFc0Wj4ZrGq0xHg2Pffeu7fWBOn9Wx1aX/kPCgf/E=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=C6EGM49a8WGg/HaF7yPw6oPlBU1xwMgl1+phkD1ja99pej9PKa/WqKS3E4A5hUP8f kGscJ0S3LDtAzrQ/ubUUKxrgphEAEVUmlAyU5YqRnCN6AoHBmXeGgkTRoYZJSwSEpM XGonmhg9eq73Ft363JZ0DGBaXzAEzc+IS4Sy8LSM= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at maila2.tigertech.net Received: from dhcp-925c.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:67c:1232:144:fd8b:4f5e:7092:71aa]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by maila2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 44VTgt0jqdz1qsXg; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 08:44:25 -0700 (PDT) To: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" , "ipv6@ietf.org" Cc: "spring@ietf.org" References: From: "Joel M. Halpern" Message-ID: <64ec587e-b81e-0271-4868-e8ad623b8ada@joelhalpern.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 16:44:24 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 15:44:30 -0000 One needs to be very careful about packet size reasoning. For TCP, something like 1/3 of all packets are tiny (acks). A lot less than 1/3 of the bytes are in tiny packets :-) For voice traffic, almost all packets are small. Yours, Joel On 3/28/19 4:36 PM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote: > Hi Ron, > > Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING session today. Seems useful. > > Two comments/clarification - > > 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the Internet was ~500B and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. Of course, if we look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size (1000~1400B), then the overhead would be a lot less. > > We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs large size to calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (say, as much as >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the latest VNI studies ), then the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on the traffic would be even less over all. > > 2. 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Thu, 28 Mar 2019 08:51:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <64ec587e-b81e-0271-4868-e8ad623b8ada@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: <64ec587e-b81e-0271-4868-e8ad623b8ada@joelhalpern.com> From: Robert Raszuk Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 16:51:19 +0100 Message-ID: To: "Joel M. Halpern" Cc: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" , 6man WG , "spring@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000058590d058529876d" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 15:51:46 -0000 --00000000000058590d058529876d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Joel, Is your hidden message to express that neither TCP nor UDP with voice app should use IPv6 at all as overhead is just too big even without additional extension headers ? Best, R. On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 16:44 Joel M. Halpern wrote: > One needs to be very careful about packet size reasoning. > For TCP, something like 1/3 of all packets are tiny (acks). A lot less > than 1/3 of the bytes are in tiny packets :-) > For voice traffic, almost all packets are small. > Yours, > Joel > > On 3/28/19 4:36 PM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote: > > Hi Ron, > > > > Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING session today. > Seems useful. > > > > Two comments/clarification - > > > > 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the Internet > was ~500B and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. Of > course, if we look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size > (1000~1400B), then the overhead would be a lot less. > > > > We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs large size > to calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (say, as > much as >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the latest VNI > studies ), then the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on the > traffic would be even less over all. > > > > 2. Also, what % of savings do we get by using compressed RH vs > non-compressed RH ? 24B vs 64B per packet !! > > > > > > Cheers, > > Rajiv > > > > _______________________________________________ > > spring mailing list > > spring@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > --00000000000058590d058529876d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Joel,

Is your hidden message to express that neither TCP nor UDP with voice app= should use IPv6 at all as overhead is just too big even without additional= extension headers ?

Bes= t,
R.


On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 16:44 Joel M. Halpern= <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wro= te:
One needs to be very careful ab= out packet size reasoning.
For TCP, something like 1/3 of all packets are tiny (acks).=C2=A0 A lot les= s
than 1/3 of the bytes are in tiny packets :-)
For voice traffic, almost all packets are small.
Yours,
Joel

On 3/28/19 4:36 PM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote:
> Hi Ron,
>
> Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING session today. = Seems useful.
>
> Two comments/clarification -
>
> 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the Internet = was ~500B and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. Of co= urse, if we look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size (1000~= 1400B), then the overhead would be a lot less.
>
> We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs large size= to calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (say, as mu= ch as >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the latest VN= I studies ), then the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on th= e traffic would be even less over all.
>
> 2. Also, what % of savings do we get by using compressed RH vs non-com= pressed RH ? 24B vs 64B per packet !!
>
>
> Cheers,
> Rajiv
>
> _______________________________________________
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> spring@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sp= ring
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--00000000000058590d058529876d-- From nobody Thu Mar 28 09:18:38 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687F8120284; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 09:18:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ThI2Hh4aGsQ7; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 09:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atl4mhob10.registeredsite.com (atl4mhob10.registeredsite.com [209.17.115.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E666E12008A; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 09:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atl4oxapp102 ([10.30.71.139]) by atl4mhob10.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x2SGITKT019389 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA256 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 28 Mar 2019 12:18:29 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 12:18:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "john leddy.net" Reply-To: "john leddy.net" To: Robert Raszuk , "Joel M. Halpern" Cc: spring@ietf.org, 6man WG , "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" Message-ID: <879399074.213895.1553789909464@webmail.networksolutionsemail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <64ec587e-b81e-0271-4868-e8ad623b8ada@joelhalpern.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_213894_2035144678.1553789909460" X-Priority: 3 Importance: Medium X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.10.0-Rev23 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 16:18:36 -0000 ------=_Part_213894_2035144678.1553789909460 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joel, It would be good to factor in the ever growing amount of video on the Internet (and other large data transfer applications vs voice traffic). If larger MTU's could reliably be used, I think you would see a large amount of traffic starting to use something larger than 1500 byte Cells. Getting to a reliable PMTU mechanism would be a great way to drive efficiency. Use of larger packets should generate less TCP Ack traffic as well in general. I'm assuming the voice concern was around efficiency not about whether a voice application would work with the increased overhead of an extension header? John > On March 28, 2019 at 11:51 AM Robert Raszuk wrote: > > Hi Joel, > > Is your hidden message to express that neither TCP nor UDP with voice app should use IPv6 at all as overhead is just too big even without additional extension headers ? > > Best, > R. > > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 16:44 Joel M. Halpern < jmh@joelhalpern.com mailto:jmh@joelhalpern.com > wrote: > > > > One needs to be very careful about packet size reasoning. > > For TCP, something like 1/3 of all packets are tiny (acks). A lot less > > than 1/3 of the bytes are in tiny packets :-) > > For voice traffic, almost all packets are small. > > Yours, > > Joel > > > > On 3/28/19 4:36 PM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote: > > > Hi Ron, > > > > > > Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING session today. Seems useful. > > > > > > Two comments/clarification - > > > > > > 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the Internet was ~500B and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. Of course, if we look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size (1000~1400B), then the overhead would be a lot less. > > > > > > We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs large size to calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (say, as much as >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the latest VNI studies ), then the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on the traffic would be even less over all. > > > > > > 2. 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Joel,

It would be good to factor in the ever growing amount of video on the Internet (and other large data transfer applications vs voice traffic).

If larger MTU's could reliably be used, I think you would see a large amount of traffic starting to use something larger than 1500 byte Cells.

Getting to a reliable PMTU mechanism would be a great way to drive efficiency.
Use of larger packets should generate less TCP Ack traffic as well in general.

I'm assuming the voice concern was around efficiency not about whether a voice application would work with the increased overhead of an extension header?

John




On March 28, 2019 at 11:51 AM Robert Raszuk <rraszuk@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Joel,

Is your hidden message to express that neither TCP nor UDP with voice app should use IPv6 at all as overhead is just too big even without additional extension headers ?

Best,
R.


On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 16:44 Joel M. Halpern < jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
One needs to be very careful about packet size reasoning.
For TCP, something like 1/3 of all packets are tiny (acks).  A lot less
than 1/3 of the bytes are in tiny packets :-)
For voice traffic, almost all packets are small.
Yours,
Joel

On 3/28/19 4:36 PM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote:
> Hi Ron,
>
> Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING session today. Seems useful.
>
> Two comments/clarification -
>
> 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the Internet was ~500B and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. Of course, if we look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size (1000~1400B), then the overhead would be a lot less.
>
> We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs large size to calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (say, as much as >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the latest VNI studies ), then the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on the traffic would be even less over all.
>
> 2. Also, what % of savings do we get by using compressed RH vs non-compressed RH ? 24B vs 64B per packet !!
>
>
> Cheers,
> Rajiv
>
> _______________________________________________
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28 Mar 2019 21:51:38 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <879399074.213895.1553789909464@webmail.networksolutionsemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 20:51:47 -0000 I would like to see working path MTU of some form for many different reasons. I would also like to see larger practical MTUs. However, history suggests that both goals may be more aspirational than practical. I tend to be very skeptical of any anlysis that says that user traffic is changing to X, and that because X has property Y, we should plan our networks for property Y. I am not at all sure I have ever seen this proven correct. All I was saying is that thinking about overhead in terms of a single average packet size is mathematically correct but practically misleading. Yours, Joel On 3/28/19 5:18 PM, john leddy.net wrote: > Joel, > > It would be good to factor in the ever growing amount of video on the > Internet (and other large data transfer applications vs voice traffic). > > If larger MTU's could reliably be used, I think you would see a large > amount of traffic starting to use something larger than 1500 byte Cells. > > Getting to a reliable PMTU mechanism would be a great way to drive > efficiency. > Use of larger packets should generate less TCP Ack traffic as well in > general. > > I'm assuming the voice concern was around efficiency not about whether a > voice application would work with the increased overhead of an extension > header? > > John > > > > >> On March 28, 2019 at 11:51 AM Robert Raszuk wrote: >> >> Hi Joel, >> >> Is your hidden message to express that neither TCP nor UDP with voice >> app should use IPv6 at all as overhead is just too big even without >> additional extension headers ? >> >> Best, >> R. >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 16:44 Joel M. Halpern < jmh@joelhalpern.com >> > wrote: >> >> One needs to be very careful about packet size reasoning. >> For TCP, something like 1/3 of all packets are tiny (acks).  A lot >> less >> than 1/3 of the bytes are in tiny packets :-) >> For voice traffic, almost all packets are small. >> Yours, >> Joel >> >> On 3/28/19 4:36 PM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote: >> > Hi Ron, >> > >> > Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING session >> today. Seems useful. >> > >> > Two comments/clarification - >> > >> > 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the >> Internet was ~500B and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead >> accordingly. Of course, if we look at mid packet size (800-1000B) >> or large packet size (1000~1400B), then the overhead would be a >> lot less. >> > >> > We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs >> large size to calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were >> dominant (say, as much as >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR >> etc) per the latest VNI studies ), then the overhead impact due to >> non-compressed SID usage on the traffic would be even less over all. >> > >> > 2. Also, what % of savings do we get by using compressed RH vs >> non-compressed RH ? 24B vs 64B per packet !! >> > >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Rajiv >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > spring mailing list >> > spring@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring >> > >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >> ipv6@ietf.org >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> spring mailing list >> spring@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > From nobody Thu Mar 28 16:59:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietf.org Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEFEB12051B; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 16:58:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: spring@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.94.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: spring@ietf.org Message-ID: <155381752669.1445.2853216008808634137@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 16:58:46 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls-19.txt X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 23:58:58 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Source Packet Routing in Networking WG of the IETF. Title : Segment Routing with MPLS data plane Authors : Ahmed Bashandy Clarence Filsfils Stefano Previdi Bruno Decraene Stephane Litkowski Rob Shakir Filename : draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls-19.txt Pages : 38 Date : 2019-03-28 Abstract: Segment Routing (SR) leverages the source routing paradigm. A node steers a packet through a controlled set of instructions, called segments, by prepending the packet with an SR header. In the MPLS dataplane, the SR header is instantiated through a label stack. This document specifies the forwarding behavior to allow instantiating SR over the MPLS dataplane. 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[70.234.233.188]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i79sm537164pfj.28.2019.03.28.18.13.39 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 28 Mar 2019 18:13:40 -0700 (PDT) To: Alexander Vainshtein , "rtg-ads@ietf.org" Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "spring@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls.authors@ietf.org" , Min Ye References: From: Ahmed Bashandy Message-ID: <65361777-db63-9a7a-9199-dd04425b4785@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 18:13:39 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------8CCF32B57D81BFE5451EA093" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] RTG-DIR Last Call review of draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls-18 X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 01:13:45 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8CCF32B57D81BFE5451EA093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks a lot for the review I uploaded version 19 of the draft, which, IMO, addresses all your comments See the reply "#Ahmed" On 3/10/19 9:55 AM, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: > > Hello, > > I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this > draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or > routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG > review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is > to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about > the Routing Directorate, please see > ​http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir > > Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, > it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other > IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them > through discussion or by updating the draft. > > Document: review of draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls-18 > Reviewer: Alexander (“Sasha”) Vainshtein > Review Date: 10-Mar-19 > IETF LC End Date: 07-Mar-2019 > Intended Status: Proposed Standard > > *Summary:*I have some minor concerns about this document that I think > should be resolved before publication. > > *Comments*: > > I have done an early RTG-DIR review of the -14 version of the draft > half a year ago, and the issues I’ve raised then have been resolved in > the subsequent versions one way or another). Therefore this review has > been intentionally focused on the changes done to the draft in the few > recent versions. > > In my previous review I have noticed that the draft was not easy > reading for me. Since then readability of the draft has been improved. > However, there are still several places in the new text that are still > difficult to parse. > > I did not run the nits checker on the draft, so my list of nits is > probably incomplete. > > Just as with my earlier review, I send this one also to the MPLS WG > list – and for the same reasons. > > I tried to discuss my review privately with the authors, but they did > not respond. > > *Major Issues*: No major issues found. > > *Minor Issues*: > > 1.The text in Section 1 states that “*a network operator SHOULD configure at least one node segment per > routing instance, topology, algorithm*”and continues that “*An implementation MAY check that an IGP node-SID is not associated > with a prefix that is owned by more than one router within the same > routing domain, If so, it SHOULD NOT use this Node-SID, MAY use > another one if available, and SHOULD log an error*”. This looks somewhat controversial to me because: > a.The check of the Node SID not being owned by more than one router in > the routing domain is defined as purely optional. According to RFC > 2119, implementations that choose to implement such a check must be > able to interoperate with implementations that do not implement it > b.The recommended handling of the results of this check (fully aligned > with the text in Section 3.2 pf RFC 8402 that prohibits using prefixes > owned by more than one router in the domain as Node-SODs) strongly > suggests that the prefix that is owned by more than one router in the > domain is unusable as the Node SID > I see two possibilities to resolve this controversy: either make the > check in question a “real requirement” (i.e., replace *MAY*with *SHOULD*or even *MUST*), or explain why it is safe enough not to implement such a check > (i.e., how implementations that support this check and implementations > that do not support it can interoperate within a given routing domain).The first of these options seems to me aligned with Section 3.2 in RFC > 8402 that says that “*An IGP Node-SID MUST NOT be associated with a > prefix that is owned by more than one router within the same routing > domain*”. #Ahmed: I replaced the MAY with SHOULD > > 2.I have  a problem with the highlighted part of the following text in > Section 2.5: > > *An implementation MUST NOT allow the MCCs belonging to the same* > > *   router to assign the same incoming label to more than one SR FEC. An* > > *implementation that allows such behavior is considered as faulty.*** > > *Procedures defined in this document equally applies to this case,* > > *   both for incoming label collision (Section 2.5 > ) > and the effect on* > > *outgoing label programming (Section 2.6 > ).*** > > a.The Section in question deals with incoming label collision (in > fact, the text that immediately follows the problematic fragment > states that “*The objective of the following steps is to > deterministically install in the MPLS Incoming Label Map, also known > as label FIB, a single FEC with the incoming label "L1"*” > b.As a consequence, any mention of *outgoing label programming*, looks out of context (even accompanied by a forward reference to > Section 2.6) > c.Section 2.6 covers the impact of incoming label collision on > programming of outgoing labels in quite a generic way. Therefore I > think that the highlighted part of the quoted fragment can be safely > removed (complete with the grammar mistake). > d.I also do not see any value in stating that an implementations that > violates a mandatory requirement of the spec is faulty – isn’t that > self-evident? #Ahmed: I removed the highlighted text because I agree with what you said in item (d) that it has no value > 3.The highlighted text in Section 2.8 is not accurate: > *   For Local SIDs, the MCC is responsible for downloading the correct* > *   label value to FIB. For example, an IGP with SR extensions [I-D.ietf-* > *   isis-segment-routing-extensions, I-D.ietf-ospf-segment-routing-* > *   extensions] allocates and downloads the MPLS label corresponding to* > *   an Adj-SID [RFC8402 ].* > *a.*IGP with SR extensions**may indeed dynamically allocate and download MPLS labels acting as > local Adj-SIDs ** > *b.*However, these labels can be allocated by configuration (e.g. as > mentioned in the tie-breaking rules in Section 2.5.1 and in the > example in Section A.2.3 in the draft), in which case IGP with SR > extensions would only responsible for its advertisement and > installation. ** #Ahmed: I removed the highlighted word "allocated" > *NITS*: > :** > 1.In section 2.5: > a.In the sentence “*Procedures defined in this document equally > applies to this case*” the noun is in plural but the verb is in singular. (If this sentence > is removed as suggested above, this nit disappears) > b.The same problem exists in the sentence “*An incoming label > collision occurs if the SIDs of the set of FECs {FEC1, FEC2,..., FECk} > maps to the same incoming SR MPLS label "L1"*” #Ahmed: The sentence is removed as you suggested > > 2.In section 2.10.1 the preposition “*to*” between the words > “*according*” and “*MPLS*” is missing in the fragment “*Push the > calculated label according the MPLS label pushing rules specified in > [RFC3032]*”. > #Ahmed added the missing "to" > > 3.Problems with references: > > a.As reported by Sergey > , > there are two occurrences of references to RFC 8042 “OSPF Two-Part > Metric” instead of RFC 8402. Lots of thanks to Sergey for catching this > #Ahmed: Corrected, thanks again > > b.Reference to RFC 8174 mistakenly contains a link to  RFC 7274. > #Ahmed: Corrected > > Hopefully these notes will be useful. > #Ahmed: VERY useful > > Regards, > > Sasha > > Office: +972-39266302 > > Cell:      +972-549266302 > > Email:   Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains > information which is > CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. 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In-Reply-To: <32033_1552503001_5C8950D8_32033_150_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A48A187A7@OPEXCAUBM43.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> From: David Lebrun Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 09:18:14 +0100 Message-ID: To: bruno.decraene@orange.com Cc: SPRING WG , "draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a582100585375056" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPR Poll for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 08:18:40 -0000 --000000000000a582100585375056 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" As a contributor, I am not aware of any IPR. Thanks On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:50 PM wrote: > Hi authors, SPRING WG, > > > > In parallel to the call for adoption for draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming (1), we would like to poll for IPR. > > > > If you are aware of IPR that applies to draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming please respond to this email. > > If you are aware of IPR, please indicate whether it has been disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 provide more details). > > > > If you are an *author or contributor* please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR. > > If you are not an author or contributor, please explicitly respond only if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclosed. > > > > This document will not advance into the working group until IPR confirmations have been received from all authors and contributors. > > > > Thank you, > > > > (1) https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-spring-srv6-network-programming-07 > > > > > > --Bruno & Rob. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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As a contributor, I am not aware of any IPR.

Thanks

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:50 PM <bruno.decraene@orange.com> wrote:
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it has been disclosed in accordance with IETF IPR rules (RFCs 3979, 4879, 3=
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ond to this email regardless of whether or not you're aware of any IPR.=

If you are not an author or contributor, please e=
xplicitly respond only if you are aware of IPR that has not yet been disclo=
sed.
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This document will not advance into the working g=
roup until IPR confirmations have been received from all authors and contri=
butors.
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Thank you,
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--Bruno & Rob.

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 7be6d1a1-01d4-4bd9-c5d6-08d6b45fccba X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 29 Mar 2019 16:01:26.7297 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BYAPR05MB6005 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-03-29_08:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_spam_notspam policy=outbound_spam score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1903290114 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 18:01:27 -0000 Hi Rajiv, Thanks for these kind words.=20 Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency. Furthermore, we shoul= d engineer for future requirements. For example, in the future, service pro= viders may require longer SID lists (5 or more!). We should plan for that t= oday. Likewise, in the future, people may deploy new applications that emit short= packets. We should also plan for that today. If we don't plan for future requirements, obsolescence will be much closer = than we expect. Ron Juniper Internal > -----Original Message----- > From: spring On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (rajiva) > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:37 AM > To: ipv6@ietf.org > Cc: spring@ietf.org > Subject: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh >=20 > Hi Ron, >=20 > Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING session today. See= ms > useful. >=20 > Two comments/clarification - >=20 > 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the Internet was= ~500B > and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. Of course, if= we > look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size (1000~1400B), th= en > the overhead would be a lot less. >=20 > We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs large size to > calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (say, as much= as > >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the latest VNI studies = ), then > the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on the traffic would > be even less over all. >=20 > 2. Also, what % of savings do we get by using compressed RH vs non- > compressed RH ? 24B vs 64B per packet !! >=20 >=20 > Cheers, > Rajiv >=20 > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps- > 3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_spring&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6 > Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3DFch9FQ82sir-BoLx84hKuKwl- > AWF2EfpHcAwrDThKP8&m=3DjmZxWm2Aql61pHCtvKteTsWzTqqt883W1s5m4 > Hg4Fxg&s=3DJd6XyAybfJQVqups1svIV2qgpN8t39yQZOjL0HT5UZw&e=3D From nobody Fri Mar 29 21:13:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1BB1204E4 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 21:13:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -17.49 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.49 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GBBfIbUQgjSW for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 21:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it1-x129.google.com (mail-it1-x129.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 019E11203D1 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 21:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it1-x129.google.com with SMTP id e24so7036464itl.1 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 21:13:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=pwJ7RfF8feu4vFo74s9ZOiw95wCHvWkpgnpz8+zjfAE=; b=oFClJgpR6KSCBxr+VDO/V1JONXxseaaPrEOCMWFxS0qpKXy/vN93H043ZQ4S/YPF2M TgWuRvUZGY+VRy40c876/Ahv5mbSHrTqINR0d/ivvxXYUKmAR034s3IY5T/Fc4iy895F 28RyfScQGp+cdgiIA4bpS17sy0S1zoioIuLvejR/tvgyZRfR+QDSoAcuPbgJktl28H4s NAgXHutCQR1PbSlaAGgGlJckQAvzHBUoDNPDO3q3YX7NeDCHnxSqoBAuTdICnSo8YUPb 0rJBS/hqtnMmh9Hrg9jsXjbPPmNQt+WdAw5Ym6D7tfzEs1C7CHs8yTHGz2lb1vjinfdb VxdA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=pwJ7RfF8feu4vFo74s9ZOiw95wCHvWkpgnpz8+zjfAE=; b=KrIW7UKQ5lE1cfu1mRM8nMTSKO4tkcfS9SgK2B/he4ULhbL0ukUCTT3fPm+46VU5wn WKzEb8iluowGFi6z+UXacMin/AxTW+rX31wB0hD7DhKmLIYtA2HQRjp/j/SNp5pEHK2N Kj17Jqu74YD/4PWPTHwtI2joW+rWJrlptb8Yf/AZZxSsURxn65vz7loZXVj4oH3ifqhd tpmtIljgA8aHUX0lTju0iJxtvN+FFwLRc5AzmPacifntsPSCDC+n9P9wu6thbn1yKRgV BJ6d7WtJ5IjZbvOooXPRms732xNAmL+Lfn509RmsNibbOKO9yjmXOlRJ6IwQdeSTbEoh uwsA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWL0P3sCz9D/WisPI8l3ha05Az0JwfhhUomKk9iPV4wPJC6fSM1 SVnrUeXbhxBLVbfKpnsNwhtjUKP9ScoO34cHsWwXZQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxA05Uq3I5alUaQsIME5HJ8vf3zKHGCJsTK5l8JDcOpgvK38+ux8jxKANvwLrq2XYB+pyWvWP9HKxXQHFFuJ5Q= X-Received: by 2002:a24:7c52:: with SMTP id a79mr84450itd.51.1553919223787; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 21:13:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <65361777-db63-9a7a-9199-dd04425b4785@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <65361777-db63-9a7a-9199-dd04425b4785@gmail.com> From: Przemyslaw Krol Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 05:13:05 +0100 Message-ID: To: Ahmed Bashandy Cc: Alexander Vainshtein , "rtg-ads@ietf.org" , "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "spring@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls.authors@ietf.org" , Min Ye , "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000585d6d05854803bb" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] RTG-DIR Last Call review of draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls-18 X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 04:13:57 -0000 --000000000000585d6d05854803bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ahmed, Cosmetic minor nit: 2.5. Incoming Label Collision [...] both links in the '(Mirrored SID)' section need a cleanup / update thanks, pk On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:14 AM Ahmed Bashandy wrote: > Thanks a lot for the review > > I uploaded version 19 of the draft, which, IMO, addresses all your commen= ts > > See the reply "#Ahmed" > On 3/10/19 9:55 AM, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: > > Hello, > > I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. > The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related > drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes > on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to > the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, plea= se > see =E2=80=8Bhttp://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir > > Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it > would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Las= t > Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through > discussion or by updating the draft. > > Document: review of draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls-18 > Reviewer: Alexander (=E2=80=9CSasha=E2=80=9D) Vainshtein > Review Date: 10-Mar-19 > IETF LC End Date: 07-Mar-2019 > Intended Status: Proposed Standard > > *Summary:* I have some minor concerns about this document that I think > should be resolved before publication. > > *Comments*: > > I have done an early RTG-DIR review of the -14 version of the draft half = a > year ago, and the issues I=E2=80=99ve raised then have been resolved in t= he > subsequent versions one way or another). Therefore this review has been > intentionally focused on the changes done to the draft in the few recent > versions. > > In my previous review I have noticed that the draft was not easy reading > for me. Since then readability of the draft has been improved. However, > there are still several places in the new text that are still difficult t= o > parse. > > I did not run the nits checker on the draft, so my list of nits is > probably incomplete. > > Just as with my earlier review, I send this one also to the MPLS WG list = =E2=80=93 > and for the same reasons. > > I tried to discuss my review privately with the authors, but they did not > respond. > > *Major Issues*: No major issues found. > > *Minor Issues*: > > 1. The text in Section 1 states that =E2=80=9C*a network operator SHOU= LD configure at least one node segment per routing instance, topology, algo= rithm*=E2=80=9D and continues that =E2=80=9C*An implementation MAY check th= at an IGP node-SID is not associated with a prefix that is owned by more th= an one router within the same routing domain, If so, it SHOULD NOT use this= Node-SID, MAY use another one if available, and SHOULD log an error*=E2=80= =9D. This looks somewhat controversial to me because: > > a. The check of the Node SID not being owned by more than one router i= n the routing domain is defined as purely optional. According to RFC 2119, = implementations that choose to implement such a check must be able to inter= operate with implementations that do not implement it > > b. The recommended handling of the results of this check (fully aligne= d with the text in Section 3.2 pf RFC 8402 that prohibits using prefixes ow= ned by more than one router in the domain as Node-SODs) strongly suggests t= hat the prefix that is owned by more than one router in the domain is unusa= ble as the Node SID > > I see two possibilities to resolve this controversy: either make the chec= k in question a =E2=80=9Creal requirement=E2=80=9D (i.e., replace *MAY* wit= h *SHOULD* or even *MUST*), or explain why it is safe enough not to impleme= nt such a check (i.e., how implementations that support this check and impl= ementations that do not support it can interoperate within a given routing = domain). The first of these options seems to me aligned with Section 3.2 in= RFC 8402 that says that =E2=80=9C*An IGP Node-SID MUST NOT be associated w= ith a prefix that is owned by more than one router within the same routing = domain*=E2=80=9D. > > #Ahmed: I replaced the MAY with SHOULD > > 2. I have a problem with the highlighted part of the following > text in Section 2.5: > > *An implementation MUST NOT allow the MCCs belonging to the same* > > * router to assign the same incoming label to more than one SR FEC. An* > > * implementation that allows such behavior is considered as faulty.* > > * Procedures defined in this document equally applies to this case,* > > * both for incoming label collision (Section 2.5 > ) > and the effect on* > > * outgoing label programming (Section 2.6 > ).* > > a. The Section in question deals with incoming label collision (in fac= t, the text that immediately follows the problematic fragment states that = =E2=80=9C*The objective of the following steps is to deterministically inst= all in the MPLS Incoming Label Map, also known as label FIB, a single FEC w= ith the incoming label "L1"*=E2=80=9D > > b. As a consequence, any mention of *outgoing label programming*, loo= ks out of context (even accompanied by a forward reference to Section 2.6) > > c. Section 2.6 covers the impact of incoming label collision on progra= mming of outgoing labels in quite a generic way. Therefore I think that the= highlighted part of the quoted fragment can be safely removed (complete w= ith the grammar mistake). > > d. I also do not see any value in stating that an implementations that= violates a mandatory requirement of the spec is faulty =E2=80=93 isn=E2=80= =99t that self-evident? > > #Ahmed: I removed the highlighted text because I agree with what you said > in item (d) that it has no value > > > 3. The highlighted text in Section 2.8 is not accurate: > > * For Local SIDs, the MCC is responsible for downloading the correct* > > * label value to FIB. For example, an IGP with SR extensions [I-D.ietf-= * > > * isis-segment-routing-extensions, I-D.ietf-ospf-segment-routing-* > > * extensions] allocates and downloads the MPLS label corresponding to* > > * an Adj-SID [RFC8402 ].* > > *a. *IGP with SR extensions may indeed dynamically allocate and download= MPLS labels acting as local Adj-SIDs > > *b. *However, these labels can be allocated by configuration (e.g. as me= ntioned in the tie-breaking rules in Section 2.5.1 and in the example in Se= ction A.2.3 in the draft), in which case IGP with SR extensions would only = responsible for its advertisement and installation. > > #Ahmed: I removed the highlighted word "allocated" > > > > *NITS*: > > : > > 1. In section 2.5: > > a. In the sentence =E2=80=9C*Procedures defined in this document equal= ly applies to this case*=E2=80=9D the noun is in plural but the verb is in = singular. (If this sentence is removed as suggested above, this nit disappe= ars) > > b. The same problem exists in the sentence =E2=80=9C*An incoming label= collision occurs if the SIDs of the set of FECs {FEC1, FEC2,..., FECk} map= s to the same incoming SR MPLS label "L1"*=E2=80=9D > > #Ahmed: The sentence is removed as you suggested > > 2. In section 2.10.1 the preposition =E2=80=9C*to*=E2=80=9D between= the words =E2=80=9C > *according*=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9C*MPLS*=E2=80=9D is missing in the fragm= ent =E2=80=9C*Push the > calculated label according the MPLS label pushing rules specified in > [RFC3032]*=E2=80=9D. > > #Ahmed added the missing "to" > > 3. Problems with references: > > a. As reported by Sergey > , > there are two occurrences of references to RFC 8042 =E2=80=9COSPF Two-Par= t Metric=E2=80=9D > instead of RFC 8402. Lots of thanks to Sergey for catching this > > #Ahmed: Corrected, thanks again > > b. Reference to RFC 8174 mistakenly contains a link to RFC 7274. > > #Ahmed: Corrected > > Hopefully these notes will be useful. > > #Ahmed: VERY useful > > Regards, > > Sasha > > > > Office: +972-39266302 > > Cell: +972-549266302 > > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com > > > > _________________________________________________________________________= __ > > This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains > information which is > CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. If you have > received this > transmission in error, please inform us by e-mail, phone or fax, and then > delete the original > and all copies thereof. > _________________________________________________________________________= __ > > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > --=20 Przemyslaw "PK" Krol | Strategic Network Engineer ing | pkrol@google.com --000000000000585d6d05854803bb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Ahmed,

=
Cosmetic minor nit:
2.5.= Incoming Label Collision
[...]
both links in the '(Mirrored SID)' s= ection need a cleanup / update

thanks,
p= k


On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:14 AM Ahmed Bas= handy <aba= shandy.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20

Thanks a lot for the review

I uploaded version 19 of the draft, which, IMO, addresses all your comments

See the reply "#Ahmed"

On 3/10/19 9:55 AM, Alexander Vainshtein wrote:
=20 =20 =20

Hello,

I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see =E2=80=8Bhttp://trac.tools.ie= tf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir

Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft.

Document: review of draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls-18
Reviewer: Alexander (=E2=80=9CSasha=E2=80=9D) Vainshtein
Review Date: 10-Mar-19
IETF LC End Date: 07-Mar-2019
Intended Status: Proposed Standard

Summary: I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be resolved before publication.

Comments:

I have done an early RTG-DIR review of the -14 version of the draft half a year ago, and the issues I=E2=80=99ve raised then = have been resolved in the subsequent versions one way or another). Therefore this review has been intentionally focused on the changes done to the draft in the few recent versions.

In my previous review I have noticed that the draft was not easy reading for me. Since then readability of the draft has been improved. However, there are still several places in the new text that are still difficult to parse. <= /span>

I did not run the nits checker on the draft, so my list of nits is probably incomplete.

Just as with my earlier review, I send this one also to the MPLS WG list =E2=80=93 and for the same reasons.

I tried to discuss my review privately with the authors, but they did not respond.

Major Issues: No major issues found.

Minor Issues: 

1.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The text in S=
ection 1 states that =E2=80=9Ca network operator SHOULD configure=
 at least one node segment per routing instance, topology, algorithm=E2=
=80=9D and conti=
nues that =E2=80=9CAn implementation MAY check that an IGP node-S=
ID is not associated with a prefix that is owned by more than one router wi=
thin the same routing domain, If so, it SHOULD NOT use this Node-SID, MAY u=
se another one if available, and SHOULD log an error=E2=80=9D. This looks somewhat cont=
roversial to me because:
a.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The check of =
the Node SID not being owned by more than one router in the routing domain =
is defined as purely optional. According to RFC 2119, implementations that =
choose to implement such a check must be able to interoperate with implemen=
tations that do not implement it 
b.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The recommend=
ed handling of the results of this check (fully aligned with the text in Se=
ction 3.2 pf RFC 8402 that prohibits using prefixes owned by more than one =
router in the domain as Node-SODs) strongly suggests that the prefix that i=
s owned by more than one router in the domain is unusable as the Node SID =
=C2=A0
I see two possibilities to resolve this controve=
rsy: either make the check in question a =E2=80=9Creal requirement=E2=80=9D=
 (i.e., replace MAY with SHOULD or even MUST), or explain why it is safe enough n=
ot to implement such a check (i.e., how implementations that support this c=
heck and implementations that do not support it can interoperate within a g=
iven routing domain). The first of these options seems to me aligned with Section 3.=
2 in RFC 8402 that says that =E2=80=9CAn IGP Node-SID MUST NOT be associated with a prefix that is owned by m=
ore than one router within the same routing domain=E2=80=9D. =C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=
#Ahmed: I replaced the MAY with SHOULD

2.=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I have=C2=A0 a problem with the highlighted part of the following text in Section 2.5:

=C2=A0=C2= =A0 An implementation MUST NOT allow the MCCs belonging to the same

=C2=A0=C2=A0 router to assign the same incoming label to more than one SR FEC. An

=C2=A0= =C2=A0 implementation that allows such behavior is considered as faulty.

=C2=A0=C2=A0 Procedures defined in this document equally applies to this case,

=C2=A0= =C2=A0 both for incoming label collision (Section 2.5) and the effect on

=C2=A0= =C2=A0 outgoing label programming (Section 2.6).

a.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The Section i=
n question deals with incoming label collision (in fact, the text that imme=
diately follows the problematic fragment states that =E2=80=9CThe objective of the following steps is to dete=
rministically install in the MPLS Incoming Label Map, also known as label F=
IB, a single FEC with the incoming label "L1"=E2=80=9D <=
/span>
b.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 As a conseque=
nce, any mention of=C2=A0 outgoing=
 label programming, looks out of context (even accompanied by a forward referenc=
e to Section 2.6)
c.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Section 2.6 c=
overs the impact of incoming label collision on programming of outgoing lab=
els in quite a generic way. Therefore I think that the =C2=A0highlighted part of the quoted fragment can be s=
afely removed (complete with the grammar mistake).
        
d.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I also do not=
 see any value in stating that an implementations that violates a mandatory=
 requirement of the spec is faulty =E2=80=93 isn=E2=80=99t that self-eviden=
t?

#Ahmed: I removed the highlighted text because I agree with what you said in item (d) that it has no value


3.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The highlighted text in Section 2.8 is not accu=
rate:
=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 For Local SIDs, the MCC is responsible for downloading the cor=
rect
=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 label value to FIB. For example, an IGP with SR extensions [I-=
D.ietf-
=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 isis-segment-routing-extensions, I-D.ietf-ospf-segment-routing=
-
=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 extensions] allocates=
 and downloads the MPLS label corresponding to
        
=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 an Adj-SID [RFC8402<=
/a>].

        
<=
span>a.=C2=A0 <=
/span>IGP with SR extensions may indeed dynamically allocate and download MPLS labels acting as l=
ocal Adj-SIDs 

        
<=
span>b.=C2=A0 <=
/span>However, these labels can be allocated by configu=
ration (e.g. as mentioned in the tie-breaking rules in Section 2.5.1 and in=
 the example in Section A.2.3 in the draft), in which case IGP with SR exte=
nsions would only responsible for its advertisement and installation.
#Ahmed: I removed the highlighted word "allocated" 
=
=C2=A0
=
NITS:=

 :<=
/span>
1.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 In section 2.=
5:
a.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
In the sentence =
=E2=80=9CProcedures defined in this document equally applies to t=
his case=E2=
=80=9D the noun is in plural but the verb is in singular. (If this sentence=
 is removed as suggested above, this nit disappears)
        
b.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
The same problem=
 exists in the sentence =E2=80=9CAn i=
ncoming label collision occurs if the SIDs of the set of FECs {FEC1, FEC2,.=
.., FECk} maps to the same incoming SR MPLS label "L1"=
=E2=80=9D=
#Ahmed: The sentence is removed as you suggested

2.=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 In section 2.10.1 the preposition =E2=80=9Cto=E2=80=9D between the words =E2=80=9Caccording=E2=80=9D= and =E2=80=9CMPLS=E2=80=9D is missing in the fragment =E2=80=9CPush the calculated label according the MPLS label pushing rules specified in [RFC3032]=E2=80=9D.

#Ahmed added the missing "to"

3.=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Problems with references:

a.=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 As reported by Sergey, there are two occurrences of references to RFC 8042 =E2=80=9COSPF Two-Part Metric=E2=80=9D instead of RFC 8402. Lots of thanks to Sergey for catching this

#Ahmed: Corrected, thanks again

b.=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Reference to RFC 8174 mistakenly contains a link to=C2=A0 RFC 7274.

#Ahmed: Corrected

Hopefully these notes will be useful.

#Ahmed: VERY useful

Regards,

Sasha

=C2=A0

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Explicit NULL Label Policy Sub-TLV The policy signaled in this Sub-TLV MAY be overridden by local policy. [pk] Wouldn't something like 'The behavior signaled in this Sub-TLV MAY be overridden by local configuration/implementation/etc' be better? In this daft's context policy has a defined meaning and 'signalling a policy' or 'local policy' may be confusing. Also, do you find useful listing such local behaviors or is it too implementation specific? The reason I'm asking is because I've seen 3 ways of handling automatic EXP NULL push (either available already or in development/discussion): - based on Endpoint's AF (if packet's AF doesn't match Endpoint's AF -> PUSH EXP NULL) - based on the AF of SIDs/labels in the Segment List (if packet's AF doesn't match SID AF -> PUSH EXP NULL) - always assume PUSH for IPv6 (which also means always assume IPv4-only dataplane) - always assume PUSH for IPv4 (which also means always assume IPv6-only dataplane) Each of these behaviors make assumptions depending on the primary use case and perhaps having them documented (and potentially referred to as Option A, Option B, etc or something similar) would help avoiding confusion when discussing with vendors. PS: I assume the Type number assignment will be handled by the ongoing effort Ketan has mentioned in the context of policy name Sub-TLV but just in case wanted to call this out too. thanks, pk -- Przemyslaw "PK" Krol | Strategic Network Engineer ing | pkrol@google.com --00000000000081a59505854937b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetin= gs,

I have two minor comments regarding section 2= .4.4

<= /div>
2.4.4.=C2=A0 Expl= icit NULL Label Policy Sub-TLV


 The policy signaled in this Sub-TLV MAY be overridden by local
      policy.

=
[pk] Wouldn't something like 'The behavior signaled=
 in this Sub-TLV MAY be overridden by local configuration/implementation/et=
c' be better?
In this daft's context policy has a defined meaning=
 and 'signalling a policy' or 'local policy' may be confusi=
ng.

Also, do you find useful listing such local beha=
viors or is it too implementation specific? The reason I'm asking is be=
cause I've seen 3 ways of handling automatic EXP NULL push (either avai=
lable already or in development/discussion):
- based on Endpoint&=
#39;s AF (if packet's AF doesn't match Endpoint's AF -> PUSH=
 EXP NULL)
- based on the AF of SIDs/labels in the Segment List (i=
f packet's AF doesn't match SID AF -> PUSH EXP NULL)
- =
always assume PUSH for IPv6 (which also means always assume IPv4-only datap=
lane)
- always assume PUSH for IPv4 (which also means always assum=
e IPv6-only dataplane)
Each of these behaviors make assumptions de=
pending on the primary use case and perhaps having them documented (and pot=
entially referred to as Option A, Option B, etc or something similar) would=
 help avoiding confusion when discussing with vendors.
<= pre class=3D"gmail-m_6954356766953647853gmail-newpage" style=3D"margin-top:= 0px;margin-bottom:0px;break-before:page">
= 
PS: I assume the Type number assignment will be handled by the ongoing =
effort Ketan has mentioned in the context of policy name Sub-TLV but just i=
n case wanted to call this out too.

thanks,
pk
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Imagine that I have a trusted overlay domain over non trusted and non SR aware IPv6 underlay (likely operated by completely different team of engineers). My POPs are addressed from PA space I am attached to (for example my POPs are virtual computes in various cloud providers) and I have no freedom to choose IPv6 prefix to be the same across all such POPs. That effectively means that unless I insert full 128 bits to the packet header I will not be able to perform any segment routing in my existing network as clearly the base of your proposal relies on the fact that you have common IPv6 prefix (in your appendix 2001:db8::/64). Bottom line CRH does not work for this deployment model. *> Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency. * True and there is always the question of the right balance. Let's zoom into control plane aspect of your proposal. In your proposal your packet destination addresses MUST not be aggregated nor summarized for the apparatus to work. That is the same mistake as was made with MPLS exact match where today many networks is suffering with 1000s of /32s all over the place. Now we are talking about the same or even greater amount of /128s. No transit L3 network will allow me to inject those /128s for a very valid reasons. Consider that my network grows I would see value of ISIS area abstraction as presented this week in LSR. Well that means that again I would need to pollute my entire domain with host routes to make use of your idea. *Conclusion:* Yes I would like to significantly reduce packet size too that's why I proposed solution which can accomplish the goal all in control plane by proper handing of BGP indirection and recursion: REF: https://slideplayer.com/slide/12853563/ CRH assuming that the described above properties are not showstoppers for given deployment saves with say stack of five 32 bit SIDs for most common 576 bytes imix packet size 10% of saving when SID size goes down to 8 bits the saving are 13%. IMO we should have proper data plane solution as well as control plane solution not something in between which works only in specific scenarios are which again breaks basic IP address aggregation. Kind regards, Robert. PS. But if you choose to go ahead with CRH I would highly advise to make your CRH SID a variable length. On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:02 PM Ron Bonica wrote: > Hi Rajiv, > > Thanks for these kind words. > > Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency. Furthermore, we > should engineer for future requirements. For example, in the future, > service providers may require longer SID lists (5 or more!). We should plan > for that today. > > Likewise, in the future, people may deploy new applications that emit > short packets. We should also plan for that today. > > If we don't plan for future requirements, obsolescence will be much closer > than we expect. > > Ron > > > Juniper Internal > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spring On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (rajiva) > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:37 AM > > To: ipv6@ietf.org > > Cc: spring@ietf.org > > Subject: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh > > > > Hi Ron, > > > > Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING session today. > Seems > > useful. > > > > Two comments/clarification - > > > > 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the Internet > was ~500B > > and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. Of course, > if we > > look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size (1000~1400B), > then > > the overhead would be a lot less. > > > > We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs large size to > > calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (say, as > much as > > >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the latest VNI studies > ), then > > the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on the traffic would > > be even less over all. > > > > 2. Also, what % of savings do we get by using compressed RH vs non- > > compressed RH ? 24B vs 64B per packet !! > > > > > > Cheers, > > Rajiv > > > > _______________________________________________ > > spring mailing list > > spring@ietf.org > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > > 3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_spring&d=DwICAg&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6 > > Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=Fch9FQ82sir-BoLx84hKuKwl- > > AWF2EfpHcAwrDThKP8&m=jmZxWm2Aql61pHCtvKteTsWzTqqt883W1s5m4 > > Hg4Fxg&s=Jd6XyAybfJQVqups1svIV2qgpN8t39yQZOjL0HT5UZw&e= > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > --00000000000034b46b05854fafb4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Ron,

<= /div>
> Furthermore, we should engineer for future requirements.= =C2=A0=C2=A0

W= ell let's see if we can meet current requirements first.=C2=A0

Imagine that I have a trusted = overlay domain over non trusted and non SR aware IPv6 underlay (likely oper= ated by completely different team of engineers).=C2=A0

My POPs are addressed from PA space I am a= ttached to (for example my POPs are virtual computes in various cloud provi= ders) and I have no freedom to choose IPv6 prefix to be the same across all= such POPs.=C2=A0

That= effectively means that unless I insert full 128 bits to the packet header = I will not be able to perform any segment routing in my existing network as= clearly the base of your proposal relies on the fact that you have common = IPv6 prefix (in your appendix 2001:db8::/64).=C2=A0

Bottom line CRH does not work for this deploy= ment model.=C2=A0

<= span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">> Generally speaki= ng, we should design for efficiency.=C2=A0=C2=A0

True and there is always the ques= tion of the right balance. Let's zoom into control plane aspect of your= proposal.=C2=A0

In yo= ur proposal your packet destination addresses MUST not be aggregated nor su= mmarized for the apparatus to work. That is the same mistake as was made wi= th MPLS exact match where today many networks is suffering with 1000s of /3= 2s all over the place. Now we are talking about the same or even greater am= ount of /128s.=C2=A0

N= o transit L3 network will allow me to inject those /128s for a very valid r= easons. Consider that my network grows I would see value of ISIS area abstr= action as presented this week in LSR. Well that means that again I would ne= ed to pollute my entire domain with host routes to make use of your idea.= =C2=A0

Conclusion:<= /b>

Yes I would= like to significantly reduce packet size too that's why I proposed sol= ution which can accomplish the goal all in control plane by proper handing = of BGP indirection and recursion: REF:=C2=A0https= ://slideplayer.com/slide/12853563/

CRH assuming that the described above properties are not s= howstoppers for given deployment saves with say stack of five 32 bit SIDs f= or most common 576 bytes imix packet size 10% of saving when SID size goes = down to 8 bits the saving are 13%.=C2=A0

=
IMO we should have proper data plane solution as well as= control plane solution not something in between which works only in specif= ic scenarios are which again breaks basic IP address aggregation.=C2=A0

Kind regards,
Robert.

PS. But if you choose to go ahead with CRH I would highly advise to make= your CRH SID a variable length.=C2=A0


On= Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:02 PM Ron Bonica <rbonica=3D40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
=
Hi Rajiv,

Thanks for these kind words.

Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency.=C2=A0 Furthermore, we = should engineer for future requirements. For example, in the future, servic= e providers may require longer SID lists (5 or more!). We should plan for t= hat today.

Likewise, in the future, people may deploy new applications that emit short= packets. We should also plan for that today.

If we don't plan for future requirements, obsolescence will be much clo= ser than we expect.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ron


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (rajiva) > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:37 AM
> To: ipv6@ietf.org
> Cc: spring@ietf.o= rg
> Subject: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING session today. = Seems
> useful.
>
> Two comments/clarification -
>
> 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the Internet = was ~500B
> and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. Of course,= if we
> look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size (1000~1400B),= then
> the overhead would be a lot less.
>
> We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs large size= to
> calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (say, as m= uch as
> >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the latest VNI= studies ), then
> the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on the traffic wou= ld
> be even less over all.
>
> 2. Also, what % of savings do we get by using compressed RH vs non- > compressed RH ? 24B vs 64B per packet !!
>
>
> Cheers,
> Rajiv
>
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These are the steps where the IPv6 DA is determined from the SID. There is no requirement stated that the IPv6 DAs in the mapping table must all come from the same /64. * Search for SID[SL] in the table that maps SID's to IPv6 addresses and interfaces. If SID[SL] cannot be found in that table, send an ICMP Parameter Problem, Code 0, message to the Source Address, pointing to SID[SL], and discard the packet. * Copy the address associated with SID[SL] to the IPv6 Destination Address. In the Strict Source Routing example (A.3), the SA and 3 DAs are all from different /64s. > Bottom line CRH does not work for this deployment model. > > > Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency. > > True and there is always the question of the right balance. Let's zoom in= to control plane aspect of your proposal. > > In your proposal your packet destination addresses MUST not be aggregated= nor summarized for the apparatus to work. That is the same mistake as was = made with MPLS exact match where today many networks is suffering with 1000= s of /32s all over the place. Now we are talking about the same or even gre= ater amount of /128s. > > No transit L3 network will allow me to inject those /128s for a very vali= d reasons. Consider that my network grows I would see value of ISIS area ab= straction as presented this week in LSR. Well that means that again I would= need to pollute my entire domain with host routes to make use of your idea= . > > Conclusion: > > Yes I would like to significantly reduce packet size too that's why I pro= posed solution which can accomplish the goal all in control plane by proper= handing of BGP indirection and recursion: REF: https://slideplayer.com/sli= de/12853563/ > > CRH assuming that the described above properties are not showstoppers for= given deployment saves with say stack of five 32 bit SIDs for most common = 576 bytes imix packet size 10% of saving when SID size goes down to 8 bits = the saving are 13%. > > IMO we should have proper data plane solution as well as control plane so= lution not something in between which works only in specific scenarios are = which again breaks basic IP address aggregation. > > Kind regards, > Robert. > > PS. But if you choose to go ahead with CRH I would highly advise to make = your CRH SID a variable length. > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:02 PM Ron Bonica wrote: >> >> Hi Rajiv, >> >> Thanks for these kind words. >> >> Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency. Furthermore, we sh= ould engineer for future requirements. For example, in the future, service = providers may require longer SID lists (5 or more!). We should plan for tha= t today. >> >> Likewise, in the future, people may deploy new applications that emit sh= ort packets. We should also plan for that today. >> >> If we don't plan for future requirements, obsolescence will be much clos= er than we expect. >> >> Ron >> >> >> Juniper Internal >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: spring On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (rajiv= a) >> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:37 AM >> > To: ipv6@ietf.org >> > Cc: spring@ietf.org >> > Subject: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh >> > >> > Hi Ron, >> > >> > Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING session today. = Seems >> > useful. >> > >> > Two comments/clarification - >> > >> > 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the Internet = was ~500B >> > and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. Of course,= if we >> > look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size (1000~1400B),= then >> > the overhead would be a lot less. >> > >> > We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs large size= to >> > calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (say, as m= uch as >> > >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the latest VNI studi= es ), then >> > the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on the traffic wou= ld >> > be even less over all. >> > >> > 2. 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Kind regards, R. On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM Mark Smith wrote: > On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 00:23, Robert Raszuk wrote: > > > > Dear Ron, > > > > > Furthermore, we should engineer for future requirements. > > > > Well let's see if we can meet current requirements first. > > > > Imagine that I have a trusted overlay domain over non trusted and non SR > aware IPv6 underlay (likely operated by completely different team of > engineers). > > > > My POPs are addressed from PA space I am attached to (for example my > POPs are virtual computes in various cloud providers) and I have no freedom > to choose IPv6 prefix to be the same across all such POPs. > > > > That effectively means that unless I insert full 128 bits to the packet > header I will not be able to perform any segment routing in my existing > network as clearly the base of your proposal relies on the fact that you > have common IPv6 prefix (in your appendix 2001:db8::/64). > > > > I can't see that requirement. > > These are the steps where the IPv6 DA is determined from the SID. > There is no requirement stated that the IPv6 DAs in the mapping table > must all come from the same /64. > > * Search for SID[SL] in the table that maps SID's to IPv6 addresses > and interfaces. If SID[SL] cannot be found in that table, send an ICMP > Parameter Problem, Code 0, message to the Source Address, pointing to > SID[SL], and discard the packet. > > * Copy the address associated with SID[SL] to the IPv6 Destination Address. > > In the Strict Source Routing example (A.3), the SA and 3 DAs are all > from different /64s. > > > > Bottom line CRH does not work for this deployment model. > > > > > Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency. > > > > True and there is always the question of the right balance. Let's zoom > into control plane aspect of your proposal. > > > > In your proposal your packet destination addresses MUST not be > aggregated nor summarized for the apparatus to work. That is the same > mistake as was made with MPLS exact match where today many networks is > suffering with 1000s of /32s all over the place. Now we are talking about > the same or even greater amount of /128s. > > > > No transit L3 network will allow me to inject those /128s for a very > valid reasons. Consider that my network grows I would see value of ISIS > area abstraction as presented this week in LSR. Well that means that again > I would need to pollute my entire domain with host routes to make use of > your idea. > > > > Conclusion: > > > > Yes I would like to significantly reduce packet size too that's why I > proposed solution which can accomplish the goal all in control plane by > proper handing of BGP indirection and recursion: REF: > https://slideplayer.com/slide/12853563/ > > > > CRH assuming that the described above properties are not showstoppers > for given deployment saves with say stack of five 32 bit SIDs for most > common 576 bytes imix packet size 10% of saving when SID size goes down to > 8 bits the saving are 13%. > > > > IMO we should have proper data plane solution as well as control plane > solution not something in between which works only in specific scenarios > are which again breaks basic IP address aggregation. > > > > Kind regards, > > Robert. > > > > PS. But if you choose to go ahead with CRH I would highly advise to make > your CRH SID a variable length. > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:02 PM Ron Bonica 40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Rajiv, > >> > >> Thanks for these kind words. > >> > >> Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency. Furthermore, we > should engineer for future requirements. For example, in the future, > service providers may require longer SID lists (5 or more!). We should plan > for that today. > >> > >> Likewise, in the future, people may deploy new applications that emit > short packets. We should also plan for that today. > >> > >> If we don't plan for future requirements, obsolescence will be much > closer than we expect. > >> > >> Ron > >> > >> > >> Juniper Internal > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: spring On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati > (rajiva) > >> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:37 AM > >> > To: ipv6@ietf.org > >> > Cc: spring@ietf.org > >> > Subject: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh > >> > > >> > Hi Ron, > >> > > >> > Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING session today. > Seems > >> > useful. > >> > > >> > Two comments/clarification - > >> > > >> > 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the Internet > was ~500B > >> > and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. Of > course, if we > >> > look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size > (1000~1400B), then > >> > the overhead would be a lot less. > >> > > >> > We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs large > size to > >> > calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (say, as > much as > >> > >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the latest VNI > studies ), then > >> > the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on the traffic > would > >> > be even less over all. > >> > > >> > 2. Also, what % of savings do we get by using compressed RH vs non- > >> > compressed RH ? 24B vs 64B per packet !! > >> > > >> > > >> > Cheers, > >> > Rajiv > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > spring mailing list > >> > spring@ietf.org > >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > >> > 3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_spring&d=DwICAg&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6 > >> > Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=Fch9FQ82sir-BoLx84hKuKwl- > >> > AWF2EfpHcAwrDThKP8&m=jmZxWm2Aql61pHCtvKteTsWzTqqt883W1s5m4 > >> > Hg4Fxg&s=Jd6XyAybfJQVqups1svIV2qgpN8t39yQZOjL0HT5UZw&e= > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > >> ipv6@ietf.org > >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > spring mailing list > > spring@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > --000000000000c6982605855182bf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mark,

1) Can you point me to IGP and BGP extensions which = would allow to propagate such "mapping tables" around ?

2) Is there an agreement that s= olutions which require additional per SR path state in both control plane a= nd now in data plane are really something we should be endorsing here ?=C2= =A0

Kind regards,
R.

On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM Mark Smith &l= t;markzzzsmith@gmail.com> = wrote:
On Sun, 3= 1 Mar 2019 at 00:23, Robert Raszuk <rraszuk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Ron,
>
> > Furthermore, we should engineer for future requirements.
>
> Well let's see if we can meet current requirements first.
>
> Imagine that I have a trusted overlay domain over non trusted and non = SR aware IPv6 underlay (likely operated by completely different team of eng= ineers).
>
> My POPs are addressed from PA space I am attached to (for example my P= OPs are virtual computes in various cloud providers) and I have no freedom = to choose IPv6 prefix to be the same across all such POPs.
>
> That effectively means that unless I insert full 128 bits to the packe= t header I will not be able to perform any segment routing in my existing n= etwork as clearly the base of your proposal relies on the fact that you hav= e common IPv6 prefix (in your appendix 2001:db8::/64).
>

I can't see that requirement.

These are the steps where the IPv6 DA is determined from the SID.
There is no requirement stated that the IPv6 DAs in the mapping table
must all come from the same /64.

* Search for SID[SL] in the table that maps SID's to IPv6 addresses
and interfaces. If SID[SL] cannot be found in that table, send an ICMP
Parameter Problem, Code 0, message to the Source Address, pointing to
SID[SL], and discard the packet.

* Copy the address associated with SID[SL] to the IPv6 Destination Address.=

In the Strict Source Routing example (A.3), the SA and 3 DAs are all
from different /64s.


> Bottom line CRH does not work for this deployment model.
>
> > Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency.
>
> True and there is always the question of the right balance. Let's = zoom into control plane aspect of your proposal.
>
> In your proposal your packet destination addresses MUST not be aggrega= ted nor summarized for the apparatus to work. That is the same mistake as w= as made with MPLS exact match where today many networks is suffering with 1= 000s of /32s all over the place. Now we are talking about the same or even = greater amount of /128s.
>
> No transit L3 network will allow me to inject those /128s for a very v= alid reasons. Consider that my network grows I would see value of ISIS area= abstraction as presented this week in LSR. Well that means that again I wo= uld need to pollute my entire domain with host routes to make use of your i= dea.
>
> Conclusion:
>
> Yes I would like to significantly reduce packet size too that's wh= y I proposed solution which can accomplish the goal all in control plane by= proper handing of BGP indirection and recursion: REF: https:= //slideplayer.com/slide/12853563/
>
> CRH assuming that the described above properties are not showstoppers = for given deployment saves with say stack of five 32 bit SIDs for most comm= on 576 bytes imix packet size 10% of saving when SID size goes down to 8 bi= ts the saving are 13%.
>
> IMO we should have proper data plane solution as well as control plane= solution not something in between which works only in specific scenarios a= re which again breaks basic IP address aggregation.
>
> Kind regards,
> Robert.
>
> PS. But if you choose to go ahead with CRH I would highly advise to ma= ke your CRH SID a variable length.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:02 PM Ron Bonica <rbonica=3D40juniper.net@dmarc.ie= tf.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rajiv,
>>
>> Thanks for these kind words.
>>
>> Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency.=C2=A0 Further= more, we should engineer for future requirements. For example, in the futur= e, service providers may require longer SID lists (5 or more!). We should p= lan for that today.
>>
>> Likewise, in the future, people may deploy new applications that e= mit short packets. We should also plan for that today.
>>
>> If we don't plan for future requirements, obsolescence will be= much closer than we expect.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Ron
>>
>>
>> Juniper Internal
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (= rajiva)
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:37 AM
>> > To: ipv6@i= etf.org
>> > Cc: spri= ng@ietf.org
>> > Subject: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh
>> >
>> > Hi Ron,
>> >
>> > Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING sessio= n today. Seems
>> > useful.
>> >
>> > Two comments/clarification -
>> >
>> > 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the = Internet was ~500B
>> > and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. O= f course, if we
>> > look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size (100= 0~1400B), then
>> > the overhead would be a lot less.
>> >
>> > We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs l= arge size to
>> > calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (= say, as much as
>> > >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the l= atest VNI studies ), then
>> > the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on the tr= affic would
>> > be even less over all.
>> >
>> > 2. Also, what % of savings do we get by using compressed RH v= s non-
>> > compressed RH ? 24B vs 64B per packet !!
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Rajiv
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > spring mailing list
>> > spring@i= etf.org
>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v= 2/url?u=3Dhttps-
>> > 3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_spring&d=3DDwICAg&c= =3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6
>> > Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3DFch9FQ82sir-BoLx84hKuKw= l-
>> > AWF2EfpHcAwrDThKP8&m=3DjmZxWm2Aql61pHCtvKteTsWzTqqt883W1s= 5m4
>> > Hg4Fxg&s=3DJd6XyAybfJQVqups1svIV2qgpN8t39yQZOjL0HT5UZw&am= p;e=3D
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------= --
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>> ipv6@ietf.org
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>
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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Robert, Thanks for the review. There is no requirement that all SIDs come from the same prefix. However, I= can see how you might get that impression. In two of the examples, all SID= s do come from the same prefix. In the next draft version, I will update th= e examples so that prefixes come from different prefixes. I have not yet submitted the control plane documents. However, I can assure= you that the will be remarkably short and simple. All you have to do is ad= vertise a capability and a SID to address mapping. Ron Juniper Internal From: Robert Raszuk Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:23 AM To: Ron Bonica Cc: Rajiv Asati (rajiva) ; ipv6@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh Dear Ron, > Furthermore, we should engineer for future requirements. Well let's see if we can meet current requirements first. Imagine that I have a trusted overlay domain over non trusted and non SR aw= are IPv6 underlay (likely operated by completely different team of engineer= s). My POPs are addressed from PA space I am attached to (for example my POPs a= re virtual computes in various cloud providers) and I have no freedom to ch= oose IPv6 prefix to be the same across all such POPs. That effectively means that unless I insert full 128 bits to the packet hea= der I will not be able to perform any segment routing in my existing networ= k as clearly the base of your proposal relies on the fact that you have com= mon IPv6 prefix (in your appendix 2001:db8::/64). Bottom line CRH does not work for this deployment model. > Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency. True and there is always the question of the right balance. Let's zoom into= control plane aspect of your proposal. In your proposal your packet destination addresses MUST not be aggregated n= or summarized for the apparatus to work. That is the same mistake as was ma= de with MPLS exact match where today many networks is suffering with 1000s = of /32s all over the place. Now we are talking about the same or even great= er amount of /128s. No transit L3 network will allow me to inject those /128s for a very valid = reasons. Consider that my network grows I would see value of ISIS area abst= raction as presented this week in LSR. Well that means that again I would n= eed to pollute my entire domain with host routes to make use of your idea. Conclusion: Yes I would like to significantly reduce packet size too that's why I propo= sed solution which can accomplish the goal all in control plane by proper h= anding of BGP indirection and recursion: REF: https://slideplayer.com/slide= /12853563/ CRH assuming that the described above properties are not showstoppers for g= iven deployment saves with say stack of five 32 bit SIDs for most common 57= 6 bytes imix packet size 10% of saving when SID size goes down to 8 bits th= e saving are 13%. IMO we should have proper data plane solution as well as control plane solu= tion not something in between which works only in specific scenarios are wh= ich again breaks basic IP address aggregation. Kind regards, Robert. PS. But if you choose to go ahead with CRH I would highly advise to make yo= ur CRH SID a variable length. On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:02 PM Ron Bonica > wrote: Hi Rajiv, Thanks for these kind words. Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency. Furthermore, we shoul= d engineer for future requirements. For example, in the future, service pro= viders may require longer SID lists (5 or more!). We should plan for that t= oday. Likewise, in the future, people may deploy new applications that emit short= packets. We should also plan for that today. If we don't plan for future requirements, obsolescence will be much closer = than we expect. Ron Juniper Internal > -----Original Message----- > From: spring > On= Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (rajiva) > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:37 AM > To: ipv6@ietf.org > Cc: spring@ietf.org > Subject: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh > > Hi Ron, > > Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING session today. See= ms > useful. > > Two comments/clarification - > > 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the Internet was= ~500B > and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. Of course, if= we > look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size (1000~1400B), th= en > the overhead would be a lot less. > > We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs large size to > calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (say, as much= as > >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the latest VNI studies = ), then > the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on the traffic would > be even less over all. > > 2. Also, what % of savings do we get by using compressed RH vs non- > compressed RH ? 24B vs 64B per packet !! > > > Cheers, > Rajiv > > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps- > 3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_spring&d=3DDwICAg&c=3DHAkYuh63rsuhr6 > Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=3DFch9FQ82sir-BoLx84hKuKwl- > AWF2EfpHcAwrDThKP8&m=3DjmZxWm2Aql61pHCtvKteTsWzTqqt883W1s5m4 > Hg4Fxg&s=3DJd6XyAybfJQVqups1svIV2qgpN8t39yQZOjL0HT5UZw&e=3D -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 -------------------------------------------------------------------- --_000_BYAPR05MB42459E3E1351C7D39F049553AE5B0BYAPR05MB4245namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Ro= bert,

=  

Thank= s for the review.

=  

There= is no requirement that all SIDs come from the same prefix. However, I can = see how you might get that impression. In two of the examples, all SIDs do = come from the same prefix. In the next draft version, I will update the examples so that prefixes come from diffe= rent prefixes.

=  

I hav= e not yet submitted the control plane documents. However, I can assure you = that the will be remarkably short and simple. All you have to do is adverti= se a capability and a SID to address mapping.

=  

 = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;            &nbs= p;          Ron

=  

=  

 

Juniper Internal=

From: Robert Raszuk <rraszuk@gmail.com>=
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:23 AM
To: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
Cc: Rajiv Asati (rajiva) <rajiva@cisco.com>; ipv6@ietf.org; sp= ring@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh<= /p>

 

Dear Ron,

 

> Furthermore, we should engineer for future re= quirements.  

 

Well let's see if we can meet current requirements fi= rst. 

 

Imagine that I have a trusted overlay domain over non= trusted and non SR aware IPv6 underlay (likely operated by completely diff= erent team of engineers). 

 

My POPs are addressed from PA space I am attached to = (for example my POPs are virtual computes in various cloud providers) and I= have no freedom to choose IPv6 prefix to be the same across all such POPs. 

 

That effectively means that unless I insert full 128 = bits to the packet header I will not be able to perform any segment routing= in my existing network as clearly the base of your proposal relies on the fact that you have common IPv6 prefix (in your= appendix 2001:db8::/64). 

 

Bottom line CRH does not work for this deployment mod= el. 

 

> Generally speaking, we should design for effi= ciency.  

 

True and there is always the question of the right ba= lance. Let's zoom into control plane aspect of your proposal. 

 

In your proposal your packet destination addresses MU= ST not be aggregated nor summarized for the apparatus to work. That is the = same mistake as was made with MPLS exact match where today many networks is suffering with 1000s of /32s all over the pla= ce. Now we are talking about the same or even greater amount of /128s. = ;

 

No transit L3 network will allow me to inject those /= 128s for a very valid reasons. Consider that my network grows I would see v= alue of ISIS area abstraction as presented this week in LSR. Well that means that again I would need to pollute my entire = domain with host routes to make use of your idea. 

 

Conclusion:

 

Yes I would like to significantly reduce packet size = too that's why I proposed solution which can accomplish the goal all in con= trol plane by proper handing of BGP indirection and recursion: REF: https://slideplaye= r.com/slide/12853563/

 

CRH assuming that the described above properties are = not showstoppers for given deployment saves with say stack of five 32 bit S= IDs for most common 576 bytes imix packet size 10% of saving when SID size goes down to 8 bits the saving are 13%. <= o:p>

 

IMO we should have proper data plane solution as well= as control plane solution not something in between which works only in spe= cific scenarios are which again breaks basic IP address aggregation. 

 

Kind regards,

Robert.

 

PS. But if you choose to go ahead with CRH I would hi= ghly advise to make your CRH SID a variable length. =

 

 

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:02 PM Ron Bonica <rboni= ca=3D40juniper.net@dmarc.ie= tf.org> wrote:

Hi Rajiv,

Thanks for these kind words.

Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency.  Furthermore, we = should engineer for future requirements. For example, in the future, servic= e providers may require longer SID lists (5 or more!). We should plan for t= hat today.

Likewise, in the future, people may deploy new applications that emit short= packets. We should also plan for that today.

If we don't plan for future requirements, obsolescence will be much closer = than we expect.

                     = ;                     &nb= sp;         Ron


Juniper Internal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (rajiva) > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:37 AM
> To: ipv6@ietf.org
> Cc: spring@ietf.o= rg
> Subject: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING session today. = Seems
> useful.
>
> Two comments/clarification -
>
> 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the Internet = was ~500B
> and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. Of course,= if we
> look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size (1000~1400B),= then
> the overhead would be a lot less.
>
> We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs large size= to
> calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (say, as m= uch as
> >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the latest VNI= studies ), then
> the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on the traffic wou= ld
> be even less over all.
>
> 2. Also, what % of savings do we get by using compressed RH vs non- > compressed RH ? 24B vs 64B per packet !!
>
>
> Cheers,
> Rajiv
>
> _______________________________________________
> spring mailing list
> spring@ietf.org
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-
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[70.234.233.188]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a80sm19101979pfj.61.2019.03.30.15.30.22 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 30 Mar 2019 15:30:23 -0700 (PDT) To: Przemyslaw Krol Cc: Alexander Vainshtein , "rtg-ads@ietf.org" , "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "spring@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls.authors@ietf.org" , Min Ye , "mpls@ietf.org" References: <65361777-db63-9a7a-9199-dd04425b4785@gmail.com> From: Ahmed Bashandy Message-ID: <2a3e1d27-5f26-36ca-7332-462b89c7c5a6@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 15:30:21 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------DFD87B35EB70336E4F03A005" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] RTG-DIR Last Call review of draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls-18 X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 22:30:30 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DFD87B35EB70336E4F03A005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thanks for the comment Mirrored SID  in Section 2.5 refers to RFC8402 section 5.1, which AFAIK is correct. What link needs to be updated? Ahmed On 3/29/19 9:13 PM, Przemyslaw Krol wrote: > Hi Ahmed, > > Cosmetic minor nit: > 2.5. Incoming Label Collision > [...] > both links in the '(Mirrored SID)' section need a cleanup / update > > thanks, > pk > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:14 AM Ahmed Bashandy > > wrote: > > Thanks a lot for the review > > I uploaded version 19 of the draft, which, IMO, addresses all your > comments > > See the reply "#Ahmed" > > On 3/10/19 9:55 AM, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this >> draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or >> routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and >> IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the >> review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more >> information about the Routing Directorate, please see >> ​http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir >> >> Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing >> ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with >> any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to >> resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft. >> >> Document: review of draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls-18 >> Reviewer: Alexander (“Sasha”) Vainshtein >> Review Date: 10-Mar-19 >> IETF LC End Date: 07-Mar-2019 >> Intended Status: Proposed Standard >> >> *Summary:*I have some minor concerns about this document that I >> think should be resolved before publication. >> >> *Comments*: >> >> I have done an early RTG-DIR review of the -14 version of the >> draft half a year ago, and the issues I’ve raised then have been >> resolved in the subsequent versions one way or another). >> Therefore this review has been intentionally focused on the >> changes done to the draft in the few recent versions. >> >> In my previous review I have noticed that the draft was not easy >> reading for me. Since then readability of the draft has been >> improved. However, there are still several places in the new text >> that are still difficult to parse. >> >> I did not run the nits checker on the draft, so my list of nits >> is probably incomplete. >> >> Just as with my earlier review, I send this one also to the MPLS >> WG list – and for the same reasons. >> >> I tried to discuss my review privately with the authors, but they >> did not respond. >> >> *Major Issues*: No major issues found. >> >> *Minor Issues*: >> >> 1.The text in Section 1 states that “*a network operator SHOULD configure at least one node segment >> per routing instance, topology, algorithm*”and continues that “*An implementation MAY check that an IGP node-SID is not >> associated with a prefix that is owned by more than one router >> within the same routing domain, If so, it SHOULD NOT use this >> Node-SID, MAY use another one if available, and SHOULD log an error*”. This looks somewhat controversial to me because: >> a.The check of the Node SID not being owned by more than one >> router in the routing domain is defined as purely optional. >> According to RFC 2119, implementations that choose to implement >> such a check must be able to interoperate with implementations >> that do not implement it >> b.The recommended handling of the results of this check (fully >> aligned with the text in Section 3.2 pf RFC 8402 that prohibits >> using prefixes owned by more than one router in the domain as >> Node-SODs) strongly suggests that the prefix that is owned by >> more than one router in the domain is unusable as the Node SID >> I see two possibilities to resolve this controversy: either make >> the check in question a “real requirement” (i.e., replace *MAY*with *SHOULD*or even *MUST*), or explain why it is safe enough not to implement such a check >> (i.e., how implementations that support this check and >> implementations that do not support it can interoperate within a >> given routing domain).The first of these options seems to me aligned with Section 3.2 >> in RFC 8402 that says that “*An IGP Node-SID MUST NOT be >> associated with a prefix that is owned by more than one router >> within the same routing domain*”. > #Ahmed: I replaced the MAY with SHOULD >> >> 2.I have  a problem with the highlighted part of the following >> text in Section 2.5: >> >> *An implementation MUST NOT allow the MCCs belonging to the same* >> >> *router to assign the same incoming label to more than one SR >> FEC. An* >> >> *implementation that allows such behavior is considered as faulty.*** >> >> *Procedures defined in this document equally applies to this case,* >> >> *both for incoming label collision (Section 2.5 >> ) >> and the effect on* >> >> *outgoing label programming (Section 2.6 >> ).*** >> >> a.The Section in question deals with incoming label collision (in >> fact, the text that immediately follows the problematic fragment >> states that “*The objective of the following steps is to >> deterministically install in the MPLS Incoming Label Map, also >> known as label FIB, a single FEC with the incoming label "L1"*” >> b.As a consequence, any mention of *outgoing label programming*, looks out of context (even accompanied by a forward reference >> to Section 2.6) >> c.Section 2.6 covers the impact of incoming label collision on >> programming of outgoing labels in quite a generic way. Therefore >> I think that the highlighted part of the quoted fragment can be >> safely removed (complete with the grammar mistake). >> d.I also do not see any value in stating that an implementations >> that violates a mandatory requirement of the spec is faulty – >> isn’t that self-evident? > > #Ahmed: I removed the highlighted text because I agree with what > you said in item (d) that it has no value > > >> 3.The highlighted text in Section 2.8 is not accurate: >> *   For Local SIDs, the MCC is responsible for downloading the >> correct* >> *   label value to FIB. For example, an IGP with SR extensions >> [I-D.ietf-* >> *   isis-segment-routing-extensions, I-D.ietf-ospf-segment-routing-* >> *   extensions] allocates and downloads the MPLS label >> corresponding to* >> *   an Adj-SID [RFC8402 ].* >> *a.*IGP with SR extensions**may indeed dynamically allocate and download MPLS labels acting >> as local Adj-SIDs ** >> *b.*However, these labels can be allocated by configuration (e.g. as >> mentioned in the tie-breaking rules in Section 2.5.1 and in the >> example in Section A.2.3 in the draft), in which case IGP with SR >> extensions would only responsible for its advertisement and >> installation. ** > #Ahmed: I removed the highlighted word "allocated" >> *NITS*: >> :** >> 1.In section 2.5: >> a.In the sentence “*Procedures defined in this document equally >> applies to this case*” the noun is in plural but the verb is in singular. (If this >> sentence is removed as suggested above, this nit disappears) >> b.The same problem exists in the sentence “*An incoming label >> collision occurs if the SIDs of the set of FECs {FEC1, FEC2,..., >> FECk} maps to the same incoming SR MPLS label "L1"*” > #Ahmed: The sentence is removed as you suggested >> >> 2.In section 2.10.1 the preposition “*to*” between the words >> “*according*” and “*MPLS*” is missing in the fragment “*Push the >> calculated label according the MPLS label pushing rules specified >> in [RFC3032]*”. >> > #Ahmed added the missing "to" >> >> 3.Problems with references: >> >> a.As reported by Sergey >> , >> there are two occurrences of references to RFC 8042 “OSPF >> Two-Part Metric” instead of RFC 8402. Lots of thanks to Sergey >> for catching this >> > #Ahmed: Corrected, thanks again >> >> b.Reference to RFC 8174 mistakenly contains a link to  RFC 7274. >> > #Ahmed: Corrected >> >> Hopefully these notes will be useful. >> > #Ahmed: VERY useful >> >> Regards, >> >> Sasha >> >> Office: +972-39266302 >> >> Cell:      +972-549266302 >> >> Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> >> This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and >> contains information which is >> CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. If you >> have received this >> transmission in error, please inform us by e-mail, phone or fax, >> and then delete the original >> and all copies thereof. >> ___________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > > > > -- > Przemyslaw "PK" Krol |  Strategic Network Engineer ing > |pkrol@google.com > --------------DFD87B35EB70336E4F03A005 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGh0bWw+CiAgPGhlYWQ+CiAgICA8bWV0YSBodHRwLWVxdWl2PSJDb250ZW50LVR5cGUiIGNv bnRlbnQ9InRleHQvaHRtbDsgY2hhcnNldD1VVEYtOCI+CiAgPC9oZWFkPgogIDxib2R5IHRl eHQ9IiMwMDAwMDAiIGJnY29sb3I9IiNGRkZGRkYiPgogICAgPHA+dGhhbmtzIGZvciB0aGUg Y29tbWVudDwvcD4KICAgIDxwPk1pcnJvcmVkIFNJRMKgIGluIFNlY3Rpb24gMi41IHJlZmVy cyB0byBSRkM4NDAyIHNlY3Rpb24gNS4xLCB3aGljaAogICAgICBBRkFJSyBpcyBjb3JyZWN0 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-0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Mark Smith Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 13:38:50 +1100 Message-ID: To: Robert Raszuk Cc: Ron Bonica , spring@ietf.org, "ipv6@ietf.org" , "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006a538d05855acf1f" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 02:39:20 -0000 --0000000000006a538d05855acf1f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Robert, On Sun., 31 Mar. 2019, 02:33 Robert Raszuk, wrote: > Hi Mark, > > 1) Can you point me to IGP and BGP extensions which would allow to > propagate such "mapping tables" around ? > No, as don't think one specifically exists yet. That can be developed. There are already similar ones of course, such as those that distribute IP prefix to MPLS label mapping information. > 2) Is there an agreement that solutions which require additional per SR > path state in both control plane and now in data plane are really something > we should be endorsing here ? > I think so. My understanding of what SR is fundamentally about is to reduce control plane state and processing. The trade-off for reduced control plane state and processing is to instead carry and encode most or all of that information or its semantics as per-packet overhead. If the per-packet overhead becomes too large and expensive, then pushing some of that information and processing back into the control plane should be ok, as long as there is still a beneficial overall reduction in control plane state and processing. As MPLS SR SIDs are 20 bits, then rounding up to an octet boundary and a 32 bit alignment, I'd think 32 bit SIDs would be adequate to perform SR in an IPv6 network. As 32 bit SIDs are also the same size as IPv4 addresses, that may also create some opportunities to leverage IPv4 support in existing protocols to suite carrying and processing 32 bit SIDs with some, possibly slight, modification. For example, perhaps IPv4 Address Family support in OSPFv3 (RFC 5838) could be somehow leveraged to suit SR. Regards, Mark. > Kind regards, > R. > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM Mark Smith wrote: > >> On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 00:23, Robert Raszuk wrote: >> > >> > Dear Ron, >> > >> > > Furthermore, we should engineer for future requirements. >> > >> > Well let's see if we can meet current requirements first. >> > >> > Imagine that I have a trusted overlay domain over non trusted and non >> SR aware IPv6 underlay (likely operated by completely different team of >> engineers). >> > >> > My POPs are addressed from PA space I am attached to (for example my >> POPs are virtual computes in various cloud providers) and I have no freedom >> to choose IPv6 prefix to be the same across all such POPs. >> > >> > That effectively means that unless I insert full 128 bits to the packet >> header I will not be able to perform any segment routing in my existing >> network as clearly the base of your proposal relies on the fact that you >> have common IPv6 prefix (in your appendix 2001:db8::/64). >> > >> >> I can't see that requirement. >> >> These are the steps where the IPv6 DA is determined from the SID. >> There is no requirement stated that the IPv6 DAs in the mapping table >> must all come from the same /64. >> >> * Search for SID[SL] in the table that maps SID's to IPv6 addresses >> and interfaces. If SID[SL] cannot be found in that table, send an ICMP >> Parameter Problem, Code 0, message to the Source Address, pointing to >> SID[SL], and discard the packet. >> >> * Copy the address associated with SID[SL] to the IPv6 Destination >> Address. >> >> In the Strict Source Routing example (A.3), the SA and 3 DAs are all >> from different /64s. >> >> >> > Bottom line CRH does not work for this deployment model. >> > >> > > Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency. >> > >> > True and there is always the question of the right balance. Let's zoom >> into control plane aspect of your proposal. >> > >> > In your proposal your packet destination addresses MUST not be >> aggregated nor summarized for the apparatus to work. That is the same >> mistake as was made with MPLS exact match where today many networks is >> suffering with 1000s of /32s all over the place. Now we are talking about >> the same or even greater amount of /128s. >> > >> > No transit L3 network will allow me to inject those /128s for a very >> valid reasons. Consider that my network grows I would see value of ISIS >> area abstraction as presented this week in LSR. Well that means that again >> I would need to pollute my entire domain with host routes to make use of >> your idea. >> > >> > Conclusion: >> > >> > Yes I would like to significantly reduce packet size too that's why I >> proposed solution which can accomplish the goal all in control plane by >> proper handing of BGP indirection and recursion: REF: >> https://slideplayer.com/slide/12853563/ >> > >> > CRH assuming that the described above properties are not showstoppers >> for given deployment saves with say stack of five 32 bit SIDs for most >> common 576 bytes imix packet size 10% of saving when SID size goes down to >> 8 bits the saving are 13%. >> > >> > IMO we should have proper data plane solution as well as control plane >> solution not something in between which works only in specific scenarios >> are which again breaks basic IP address aggregation. >> > >> > Kind regards, >> > Robert. >> > >> > PS. But if you choose to go ahead with CRH I would highly advise to >> make your CRH SID a variable length. >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:02 PM Ron Bonica > 40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Rajiv, >> >> >> >> Thanks for these kind words. >> >> >> >> Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency. Furthermore, we >> should engineer for future requirements. For example, in the future, >> service providers may require longer SID lists (5 or more!). We should plan >> for that today. >> >> >> >> Likewise, in the future, people may deploy new applications that emit >> short packets. We should also plan for that today. >> >> >> >> If we don't plan for future requirements, obsolescence will be much >> closer than we expect. >> >> >> >> Ron >> >> >> >> >> >> Juniper Internal >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: spring On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati >> (rajiva) >> >> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:37 AM >> >> > To: ipv6@ietf.org >> >> > Cc: spring@ietf.org >> >> > Subject: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh >> >> > >> >> > Hi Ron, >> >> > >> >> > Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING session >> today. Seems >> >> > useful. >> >> > >> >> > Two comments/clarification - >> >> > >> >> > 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the >> Internet was ~500B >> >> > and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. Of >> course, if we >> >> > look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size >> (1000~1400B), then >> >> > the overhead would be a lot less. >> >> > >> >> > We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs large >> size to >> >> > calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (say, as >> much as >> >> > >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the latest VNI >> studies ), then >> >> > the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on the traffic >> would >> >> > be even less over all. >> >> > >> >> > 2. Also, what % of savings do we get by using compressed RH vs non- >> >> > compressed RH ? 24B vs 64B per packet !! >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Cheers, >> >> > Rajiv >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > spring mailing list >> >> > spring@ietf.org >> >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- >> >> > 3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_spring&d=DwICAg&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6 >> >> > Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=Fch9FQ82sir-BoLx84hKuKwl- >> >> > AWF2EfpHcAwrDThKP8&m=jmZxWm2Aql61pHCtvKteTsWzTqqt883W1s5m4 >> >> > Hg4Fxg&s=Jd6XyAybfJQVqups1svIV2qgpN8t39yQZOjL0HT5UZw&e= >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >> >> ipv6@ietf.org >> >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > spring mailing list >> > spring@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring >> > --0000000000006a538d05855acf1f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Robert,

On Sun., 31 Mar. 2019, 02:33 Robert Raszuk, <rraszuk= @gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mark,

1) Can you point me to IGP and BGP extensions which would al= low to propagate such "mapping tables" around ?

No, as don= 't think one specifically exists yet. That can be developed.

There are already similar ones of course, such = as those that distribute IP prefix to MPLS label mapping information.
=


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif= ;font-size:small">
2) Is there an agreement tha= t solutions which require additional per SR path state in both control plan= e and now in data plane are really something we should be endorsing here ?= =C2=A0

I think so.
My understanding of what SR is fundamentally about is to reduc= e control plane state and processing. The trade-off for reduced control pla= ne state and processing is to instead carry and encode most or all of that = information or its semantics as per-packet overhead.

If the per-packet overhead becomes too large and expensive, then pushing= some of that information and processing back into the control plane should= be ok, as long as there is still a beneficial overall reduction in control= plane state and processing.

As MPLS SR SIDs are 2= 0 bits, then rounding up to an octet boundary and a 32 bit alignment, I'= ;d think 32 bit SIDs would be adequate to perform SR in an IPv6 network.

As 32 bit SIDs are also the same size as IPv4 addres= ses, that may also create some opportunities to leverage IPv4 support in ex= isting protocols to suite carrying and processing 32 bit SIDs with some, po= ssibly slight, modification. For example, perhaps IPv4 Address Family suppo= rt in OSPFv3 (RFC=C2=A05838) could be somehow leveraged to suit SR.


<= div>Regards,
Mark.



Kind regards,
R.

On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM Mark Smith <ma= rkzzzsmith@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 00:23, Robert Raszuk <rraszuk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Ron,
>
> > Furthermore, we should engineer for future requirements.
>
> Well let's see if we can meet current requirements first.
>
> Imagine that I have a trusted overlay domain over non trusted and non = SR aware IPv6 underlay (likely operated by completely different team of eng= ineers).
>
> My POPs are addressed from PA space I am attached to (for example my P= OPs are virtual computes in various cloud providers) and I have no freedom = to choose IPv6 prefix to be the same across all such POPs.
>
> That effectively means that unless I insert full 128 bits to the packe= t header I will not be able to perform any segment routing in my existing n= etwork as clearly the base of your proposal relies on the fact that you hav= e common IPv6 prefix (in your appendix 2001:db8::/64).
>

I can't see that requirement.

These are the steps where the IPv6 DA is determined from the SID.
There is no requirement stated that the IPv6 DAs in the mapping table
must all come from the same /64.

* Search for SID[SL] in the table that maps SID's to IPv6 addresses
and interfaces. If SID[SL] cannot be found in that table, send an ICMP
Parameter Problem, Code 0, message to the Source Address, pointing to
SID[SL], and discard the packet.

* Copy the address associated with SID[SL] to the IPv6 Destination Address.=

In the Strict Source Routing example (A.3), the SA and 3 DAs are all
from different /64s.


> Bottom line CRH does not work for this deployment model.
>
> > Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency.
>
> True and there is always the question of the right balance. Let's = zoom into control plane aspect of your proposal.
>
> In your proposal your packet destination addresses MUST not be aggrega= ted nor summarized for the apparatus to work. That is the same mistake as w= as made with MPLS exact match where today many networks is suffering with 1= 000s of /32s all over the place. Now we are talking about the same or even = greater amount of /128s.
>
> No transit L3 network will allow me to inject those /128s for a very v= alid reasons. Consider that my network grows I would see value of ISIS area= abstraction as presented this week in LSR. Well that means that again I wo= uld need to pollute my entire domain with host routes to make use of your i= dea.
>
> Conclusion:
>
> Yes I would like to significantly reduce packet size too that's wh= y I proposed solution which can accomplish the goal all in control plane by= proper handing of BGP indirection and recursion: REF: https://slideplayer.com/slide/12853563/
>
> CRH assuming that the described above properties are not showstoppers = for given deployment saves with say stack of five 32 bit SIDs for most comm= on 576 bytes imix packet size 10% of saving when SID size goes down to 8 bi= ts the saving are 13%.
>
> IMO we should have proper data plane solution as well as control plane= solution not something in between which works only in specific scenarios a= re which again breaks basic IP address aggregation.
>
> Kind regards,
> Robert.
>
> PS. But if you choose to go ahead with CRH I would highly advise to ma= ke your CRH SID a variable length.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:02 PM Ron Bonica <rbonica=3D40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rajiv,
>>
>> Thanks for these kind words.
>>
>> Generally speaking, we should design for efficiency.=C2=A0 Further= more, we should engineer for future requirements. For example, in the futur= e, service providers may require longer SID lists (5 or more!). We should p= lan for that today.
>>
>> Likewise, in the future, people may deploy new applications that e= mit short packets. We should also plan for that today.
>>
>> If we don't plan for future requirements, obsolescence will be= much closer than we expect.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Ron
>>
>>
>> Juniper Internal
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org&= gt; On Behalf Of Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:37 AM
>> > To: ipv6@ietf.org
>> > Cc: spring@ietf.org
>> > Subject: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh
>> >
>> > Hi Ron,
>> >
>> > Very Interesting idea that you presented during SPRING sessio= n today. Seems
>> > useful.
>> >
>> > Two comments/clarification -
>> >
>> > 1. One of the slides indicated that small packet size on the = Internet was ~500B
>> > and calculated ~10% due to Routing EH overhead accordingly. O= f course, if we
>> > look at mid packet size (800-1000B) or large packet size (100= 0~1400B), then
>> > the overhead would be a lot less.
>> >
>> > We should also look at the % mix of small packets vs mid vs l= arge size to
>> > calculate the impact. If mid to large packets were dominant (= say, as much as
>> > >70% given >80% of traffic is video (ABR etc) per the l= atest VNI studies ), then
>> > the overhead impact due to non-compressed SID usage on the tr= affic would
>> > be even less over all.
>> >
>> > 2. Also, what % of savings do we get by using compressed RH v= s non-
>> > compressed RH ? 24B vs 64B per packet !!
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Rajiv
>> >
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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a893bf05855f68d2" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] RTG-DIR Last Call review of draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls-18 X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 08:08:45 -0000 --000000000000a893bf05855f68d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mirrored SID in Section 2.5 refers to RFC8402 section 5.1, which AFAIK is correct. What link needs to be updated? [RFC8402, Section 5.1 ] - doesn't point to RFC8402 section 5.1 thanks, On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 6:46 AM Alexander Vainshtein < Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote: > Ahmed, > > Lots of thanks for a very encouraging and cooperative response. > > > > I checked the -19 version with regard to the issues I=E2=80=99ve raised i= n my > RTG-DIR Last Call review, and here is the summary status: > > > > *Issue/Nit raised in review of the -18 version* > > *Status in the -19 version* > > *Comments* > > Check of the prefix advertised as a Node SID being owned by more than one > router in the domain is OPTIONALR > > Resolved > > The requirement level for such a check has been changed from MAY to SHOUL= D > > Unnecessary text declaring non-compliant implementations as faulty and > using forward references > > Resolved > > Unnecessary text has been removed > > Inaccurate statement regarding allocation and advertisement of labels > representing Adj-SIDs by IGP extensions for SR > > Resolved > > The corresponding statement does not mention label allocation any more > > Nit: Grammar issues (singular vs. plural) > > Fixed > > In all places I=E2=80=99ve mentioned and then in some other ones > > Nit: Reference issues > > Fixed > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Sasha > > > > Office: +972-39266302 > > Cell: +972-549266302 > > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com > > > > *From:* Ahmed Bashandy > *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 4:14 AM > *To:* Alexander Vainshtein ; > rtg-ads@ietf.org > *Cc:* rtg-dir@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; > draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls.authors@ietf.org; Min Ye < > amy.yemin@huawei.com> > *Subject:* Re: RTG-DIR Last Call review of > draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls-18 > > > > Thanks a lot for the review > > I uploaded version 19 of the draft, which, IMO, addresses all your commen= ts > > See the reply "#Ahmed" > > On 3/10/19 9:55 AM, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: > > Hello, > > I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. > The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related > drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes > on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to > the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, plea= se > see =E2=80=8Bhttp://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir > > Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it > would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Las= t > Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through > discussion or by updating the draft. > > Document: review of draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls-18 > Reviewer: Alexander (=E2=80=9CSasha=E2=80=9D) Vainshtein > Review Date: 10-Mar-19 > IETF LC End Date: 07-Mar-2019 > Intended Status: Proposed Standard > > *Summary:* I have some minor concerns about this document that I think > should be resolved before publication. > > *Comments*: > > I have done an early RTG-DIR review of the -14 version of the draft half = a > year ago, and the issues I=E2=80=99ve raised then have been resolved in t= he > subsequent versions one way or another). Therefore this review has been > intentionally focused on the changes done to the draft in the few recent > versions. > > In my previous review I have noticed that the draft was not easy reading > for me. Since then readability of the draft has been improved. However, > there are still several places in the new text that are still difficult t= o > parse. > > I did not run the nits checker on the draft, so my list of nits is > probably incomplete. > > Just as with my earlier review, I send this one also to the MPLS WG list = =E2=80=93 > and for the same reasons. > > I tried to discuss my review privately with the authors, but they did not > respond. > > *Major Issues*: No major issues found. > > *Minor Issues*: > > 1. The text in Section 1 states that =E2=80=9C*a network operator SHOULD= configure at least one node segment per routing instance, topology, algori= thm*=E2=80=9D and continues that =E2=80=9C*An implementation MAY check that= an IGP node-SID is not associated with a prefix that is owned by more than= one router within the same routing domain, If so, it SHOULD NOT use this N= ode-SID, MAY use another one if available, and SHOULD log an error*=E2=80= =9D. This looks somewhat controversial to me because: > > a. The check of the Node SID not being owned by more than one router in = the routing domain is defined as purely optional. According to RFC 2119, im= plementations that choose to implement such a check must be able to interop= erate with implementations that do not implement it > > b. The recommended handling of the results of this check (fully aligned = with the text in Section 3.2 pf RFC 8402 that prohibits using prefixes owne= d by more than one router in the domain as Node-SODs) strongly suggests tha= t the prefix that is owned by more than one router in the domain is unusabl= e as the Node SID > > I see two possibilities to resolve this controversy: either make the chec= k in question a =E2=80=9Creal requirement=E2=80=9D (i.e., replace *MAY* wit= h *SHOULD* or even *MUST*), or explain why it is safe enough not to impleme= nt such a check (i.e., how implementations that support this check and impl= ementations that do not support it can interoperate within a given routing = domain). The first of these options seems to me aligned with Section 3.2 in= RFC 8402 that says that =E2=80=9C*An IGP Node-SID MUST NOT be associated w= ith a prefix that is owned by more than one router within the same routing = domain*=E2=80=9D. > > #Ahmed: I replaced the MAY with SHOULD > > 2. I have a problem with the highlighted part of the following > text in Section 2.5: > > *An implementation MUST NOT allow the MCCs belonging to the same* > > * router to assign the same incoming label to more than one SR FEC. An* > > * implementation that allows such behavior is considered as faulty.* > > * Procedures defined in this document equally applies to this case,* > > * both for incoming label collision (Section 2.5 > ) > and the effect on* > > * outgoing label programming (Section 2.6 > ).* > > a. The Section in question deals with incoming label collision (in fact,= the text that immediately follows the problematic fragment states that =E2= =80=9C*The objective of the following steps is to deterministically install= in the MPLS Incoming Label Map, also known as label FIB, a single FEC with= the incoming label "L1"*=E2=80=9D > > b. As a consequence, any mention of *outgoing label programming*, looks= out of context (even accompanied by a forward reference to Section 2.6) > > c. Section 2.6 covers the impact of incoming label collision on programm= ing of outgoing labels in quite a generic way. Therefore I think that the = highlighted part of the quoted fragment can be safely removed (complete wit= h the grammar mistake). > > d. I also do not see any value in stating that an implementations that v= iolates a mandatory requirement of the spec is faulty =E2=80=93 isn=E2=80= =99t that self-evident? > > #Ahmed: I removed the highlighted text because I agree with what you said > in item (d) that it has no value > > > > 3. The highlighted text in Section 2.8 is not accurate: > > * For Local SIDs, the MCC is responsible for downloading the correct* > > * label value to FIB. For example, an IGP with SR extensions [I-D.ietf-= * > > * isis-segment-routing-extensions, I-D.ietf-ospf-segment-routing-* > > * extensions] allocates and downloads the MPLS label corresponding to* > > * an Adj-SID [RFC8402 ].* > > a. IGP with SR extensions may indeed dynamically allocate and download M= PLS labels acting as local Adj-SIDs > > b. However, these labels can be allocated by configuration (e.g. as ment= ioned in the tie-breaking rules in Section 2.5.1 and in the example in Sect= ion A.2.3 in the draft), in which case IGP with SR extensions would only re= sponsible for its advertisement and installation. > > #Ahmed: I removed the highlighted word "allocated" > > > > *NITS*: > > : > > 1. In section 2.5: > > a. In the sentence =E2=80=9C*Procedures defined in this document equally= applies to this case*=E2=80=9D the noun is in plural but the verb is in si= ngular. (If this sentence is removed as suggested above, this nit disappear= s) > > b. The same problem exists in the sentence =E2=80=9C*An incoming label c= ollision occurs if the SIDs of the set of FECs {FEC1, FEC2,..., FECk} maps = to the same incoming SR MPLS label "L1"*=E2=80=9D > > #Ahmed: The sentence is removed as you suggested > > 2. In section 2.10.1 the preposition =E2=80=9C*to*=E2=80=9D between= the words =E2=80=9C > *according*=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9C*MPLS*=E2=80=9D is missing in the fragm= ent =E2=80=9C*Push the > calculated label according the MPLS label pushing rules specified in > [RFC3032]*=E2=80=9D. > > #Ahmed added the missing "to" > > 3. Problems with references: > > a. As reported by Sergey > , > there are two occurrences of references to RFC 8042 =E2=80=9COSPF Two-Par= t Metric=E2=80=9D > instead of RFC 8402. Lots of thanks to Sergey for catching this > > #Ahmed: Corrected, thanks again > > b. Reference to RFC 8174 mistakenly contains a link to RFC 7274. > > #Ahmed: Corrected > > Hopefully these notes will be useful. > > #Ahmed: VERY useful > > Regards, > > Sasha > > > > Office: +972-39266302 > > Cell: +972-549266302 > > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________= __ > > This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains > information which is > CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. If you have > received this > transmission in error, please inform us by e-mail, phone or fax, and then > delete the original > and all copies thereof. > _________________________________________________________________________= __ > > > _________________________________________________________________________= __ > > This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains > information which is > CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. If you have > received this > transmission in error, please inform us by e-mail, phone or fax, and then > delete the original > and all copies thereof. > _________________________________________________________________________= __ > _______________________________________________ > spring mailing list > spring@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring > --=20 Przemyslaw "PK" Krol | Strategic Network Engineer ing | pkrol@google.com --000000000000a893bf05855f68d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mirrored SID=C2=A0 in Section 2.5 refers to RFC8402 sectio= n 5.1, which AFAIK is correct. What link needs to be updated?=C2=A0
[RFC8402, = Section 5.1] -=C2=A0 doesn't poin= t to RFC8402 section 5.1

thanks,

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 6:46 AM Ale= xander Vainshtein <A= lexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote:

Ahmed,

Lots of thanks = for a very encouraging and cooperative response.

=C2=A0

I checked the -= 19 version with regard to the issues I=E2=80=99ve raised in my RTG-DIR Last= Call review, and here is the summary status:

=C2=A0

Issue/Nit raised in review of the -18 vers= ion

Status in the -19 version

Comments

Check of the pr= efix advertised as a Node SID being owned by more than one router in the do= main is OPTIONALR

Resolved=

The requirement= level for such a check has been changed from MAY to SHOULD

Unnecessary tex= t declaring non-compliant implementations as faulty and using forward refer= ences

Resolved=

Unnecessary tex= t has been removed

Inaccurate stat= ement regarding allocation and advertisement of labels representing Adj-SID= s by IGP extensions for SR

Resolved=

The correspondi= ng statement does not mention label allocation any more

Nit: Grammar is= sues (singular vs. plural)

Fixed=

In all places I= =E2=80=99ve mentioned and then in some other ones

Nit: Reference = issues

Fixed=

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Regards,

Sasha=

=C2=A0

Office: +972-39= 266302

Cell:=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 +972-549266302

Email:=C2=A0=C2= =A0 A= lexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com

=C2=A0

From:= Ahmed Bashandy <abashandy.ietf@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 4:14 AM
To: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>; rtg-ads@ietf.org Cc: rtg-dir@ie= tf.org; spring@iet= f.org; mpls@ietf.org= ; draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls.authors@ietf= .org; Min Ye <amy.yemin@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: RTG-DIR Last Call review of draft-ietf-spring-segment-r= outing-mpls-18

=C2=A0

Thanks a lot for the review

I uploaded version 19 of the draft, which, IMO, addresses all your comme= nts

See the reply "#Ahmed"

On 3/10/19 9:55 AM, Alexander Vainshtein wrote:

Hello,

I have bee= n selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing = Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they p= ass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review i= s to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the = Routing Directorate, please see =E2=80= =8Bhttp://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir

Although t= hese comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be hel= pful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comment= s that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft.

Document: = review = of draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls-18
Reviewer: Alexander (=E2=80=9CSasha=E2=80=9D) Vainshtein
Review Date: 10-Mar-19
IETF LC End Date: 07-Mar-2019
Intended Status: Proposed Standard

Su= mmary: I have some minor concerns about this document that I think shoul= d be resolved before publication.

Comment= s:

I have don= e an early RTG-DIR review of the -14 version of the draft half a year ago, = and the issues I=E2=80=99ve raised then have been resolved in the subsequen= t versions one way or another). Therefore this review has been intentionally focused on the changes done to the draf= t in the few recent versions.

In my prev= ious review I have noticed that the draft was not easy reading for me. Sinc= e then readability of the draft has been improved. However, there are still= several places in the new text that are still difficult to parse.

I did not = run the nits checker on the draft, so my list of nits is probably incomplet= e.

Just as wi= th my earlier review, I send this one also to the MPLS WG list =E2=80=93 an= d for the same reasons.

I tried to= discuss my review privately with the authors, but they did not respond.

Major I= ssues: No major issues found.

Minor I= ssues: 

1.=C2=A0 <=
/span>The text in Section 1 =
states that =E2=80=9Ca network operator SHOULD configure at least=
 one node segment per routing instance, topology, algorithm=E2=80=9D and continues that =E2=
=80=9CAn implementation MAY check that an IGP node-SID is not associated=
 with a prefix that is owned by more than one router within the same routin=
g domain, If so, it SHOULD NOT use this Node-SID, MAY use another one if av=
ailable, and SHOULD log an error=E2=80=9D. This looks somewhat controversial to me because:<=
u>
a.=C2=A0 <=
/span>The check of the Node =
SID not being owned by more than one router in the routing domain is define=
d as purely optional. According to RFC 2119, implementations that choose to=
 implement such a check must be able to interoperate with implementations t=
hat do not implement it 
b.=C2=A0 <=
/span>The recommended handli=
ng of the results of this check (fully aligned with the text in Section 3.2=
 pf RFC 8402 that prohibits using prefixes owned by more than one router in=
 the domain as Node-SODs) strongly suggests that the prefix that is owned b=
y more than one router in the domain is unusable as the Node SID =C2=A0
I see two possibilities to resolve this controversy: either make the=
 check in question a =E2=80=9Creal requirement=E2=80=9D (i.e., replace MAY with SHOULD or even <=
b>MUST), or explain why =
it is safe enough not to implement such a check (i.e., how implementations =
that support this check and implementations that do not support it can inte=
roperate within a given routing domain). The first of these options seems to me aligned with Sec=
tion 3.2 in RFC 8402 that says that =E2=80=9CAn IGP Node-SID MUST NOT be associated with a prefix that is own=
ed by more than one router within the same routing domain=E2=80=9D. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0

#Ahmed: I replaced the MAY with SHOULD

2.=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I have=C2=A0 a problem with t= he highlighted part of the following text in Section 2.5:=

=C2=A0=C2=A0 An impl= ementation MUST NOT allow the MCCs belonging to the same<= u>

=C2=A0=C2=A0 router to assign the same = incoming label to more than one SR FEC. An

=C2=A0=C2=A0 implement= ation that allows such behavior is considered as faulty.<= /p>

=C2=A0=C2=A0 Procedures defined in this document equal= ly applies to this case,

=C2=A0=C2=A0 both for = incoming label collision (Section 2.5) and the effect on

=C2=A0=C2=A0 outgoing = label programming (Section 2.6).

a.=C2=A0 <=
/span>The Section in questio=
n deals with incoming label collision (in fact, the text that immediately f=
ollows the problematic fragment states that =E2=80=9CThe objective of the following steps is to deterministi=
cally install in the MPLS Incoming Label Map, also known as label FIB, a si=
ngle FEC with the incoming label "L1"=E2=80=9D 
b.=C2=A0 <=
/span>As a consequence, any =
mention of=C2=A0 outgoing label pr=
ogramming, looks =
out of context (even accompanied by a forward reference to Section 2.6)
c.=C2=A0 <=
/span>Section 2.6 covers the=
 impact of incoming label collision on programming of outgoing labels in qu=
ite a generic way. Therefore I think that the =C2=A0highlighted part of the quoted fragment can be safely rem=
oved (complete with the grammar mistake).
d.=C2=A0 <=
/span>I also do not see any =
value in stating that an implementations that violates a mandatory requirem=
ent of the spec is faulty =E2=80=93 isn=E2=80=99t that self-evident?=

#Ahmed: I removed the highlighted text because I agree with what you sai= d in item (d) that it has no value

=C2=A0

3.=C2=A0 <=
/span>The highlighted text in Section 2.8 is not accurate:
=C2=A0=C2=A0 For Local SIDs, the MCC =
is responsible for downloading the correct
=C2=A0=C2=A0 label value to FIB. For =
example, an IGP with SR extensions [I-D.ietf-
=C2=A0=C2=A0 isis-segment-routing-ext=
ensions, I-D.ietf-ospf-segment-routing-
=C2=A0=C2=A0 extensions] allocates and downloads the MPLS label corres=
ponding to
=C2=A0=C2=A0 an Adj-SID [RFC8402].
a.=C2=A0 <=
/span>IGP with SR extensions=
 may indeed dy=
namically allocate and download MPLS labels acting as local Adj-SIDs 
b.=C2=A0 <=
/span>However, these labels =
can be allocated by configuration (e.g. as mentioned in the tie-breaking ru=
les in Section 2.5.1 and in the example in Section A.2.3 in the draft), in =
which case IGP with SR extensions would only responsible for its advertisem=
ent and installation.

#Ahmed: I removed the highlighted word "alloc= ated" 

=C2=A0=

NITS:
 :=

1.=C2=A0 <=
/span>In section 2.5:=

a.=C2=A0 In the sentence =E2=80=9C=
Procedures defined in this document equally applies to this case<=
/b>=E2=80=9D the noun is in =
plural but the verb is in singular. (If this sentence is removed as suggest=
ed above, this nit disappears)
b.=C2=A0 The same problem exists i=
n the sentence =E2=80=9CAn incoming label collision occurs if the=
 SIDs of the set of FECs {FEC1, FEC2,..., FECk} maps to the same incoming S=
R MPLS label "L1"=E2=80=9D

#Ahmed: The sentence is removed as you suggested

2.=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 In section 2.10.1 the preposi= tion =E2=80=9C= to=E2=80=9D between the words =E2=80=9Caccording=E2=80=9D and =E2= =80=9CMPLS=E2=80=9D is missing in the fragment =E2=80=9CPush the calculated label according the MPLS label p= ushing rules specified in [RFC3032]=E2=80=9D.

#Ahmed added the missing "to"

3.=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Problems with references:<= /u>

a.=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 A= s reported by Sergey, there are two occurrences of references to RFC 80= 42 =E2=80=9COSPF Two-Part Metric=E2=80=9D instead of RFC 8402. Lots of thanks to Sergey for catching this

#Ahmed: Corrected, thanks again

b.=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Reference to RFC 8174 mistake= nly contains a link to=C2=A0 RFC 7274.

#Ahmed: Corrected

Hopefully = these notes will be useful.

#Ahmed: VERY useful

Regards,

Sasha

=C2=A0

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--000000000000a893bf05855f68d2-- From nobody Sun Mar 31 07:40:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spring@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F056E12014F for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 07:40:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=raszuk.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IokVz3i2CXZ2 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qt1-x835.google.com (mail-qt1-x835.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::835]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B8631200B6 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qt1-x835.google.com with SMTP id d13so7930760qth.5 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=raszuk.net; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=NSneUUHlL5tGzr249jAhwr08ze+Qw65tRAnbZJEqLY8=; b=aCpu29OkFDYLXzw1qTqWuvTSjrmHWSLJr9/dDHLsQIsYOZ7YkV/AKQ8ewlaIT9+o/K ZFw9JLRLUbFUFUELjjOgqyyFX0qjQjoPBig868ZbufWjIqr/8u5z84X4ZUHTm47WHITu eDXboA28gUN5Z5nJFsWh6rXmFRpbiuyHMH4juCLnBUbS+vMMGhA1iQQ3PScsEe4e644v 2pUTl/B0sLTQekcNeP0x3ZERkH5SG69GE6I76Huzj/k9kUNS6XEDl+NtajnwcFfqWYOe JwkB9SoOSAkZsy+DOtv/XOD+W2OGQSFJ/gW7Mu1STG7tq6OudhbFHZg5w3TUm/CRz1C+ tthw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=NSneUUHlL5tGzr249jAhwr08ze+Qw65tRAnbZJEqLY8=; b=PSLkG2eSQaZHl5lEeCKFIAlVXTiclmIARta+ji25OeR/L21wcxf9owxcOWBu0BRs/3 /TV+ieyDbE7N+g73kfDkn1Vp5MKZ3zInrXP6oqEM0A0JsK11Rak9TwQAtdGRmVekU3Ok EXKBQZQPzN4eXs6ejGaOc7Z6LZYx2M630UrybM5fe7RlcxnkR7fYqe5kolsMCnED2o8v bpwHi855zVhGMpkHaPDqe2lTx/ZOMMax6SwqOLSRSqn1sbtyVILRDVz/r+OBcmpR50dO zzK+yDqTiq6OnZcPy+eIUZaCrQNNyRKSxPm/jHSACa/G4dDgBdXmZa9BMi/1S/JjcvOp sqlA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUla34Xx2Yuu5Hq5xvuJSdFysys57Nn73hsNOBR1Pl7TnR7lpOb a8Mps/ac1oh/sMGYJY0SVawi2PdaQ8J6l8dO6U6HEw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyCswT9gZKJb44W7QFB4Dd2tWntVCogGDw3OjHMBUcnmipMlUHyGgCpY+JDkmmsF5ebhgVkhe+7V63+1+/HHTw= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:aee6:: with SMTP id n38mr46855950qvd.69.1554043200266; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 07:40:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Robert Raszuk Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 16:39:49 +0200 Message-ID: To: Mark Smith Cc: Robert Raszuk , SPRING WG , "ipv6@ietf.org" , Dino Farinacci , lisp@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000eaf781058564e01e" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [spring] IPv6-compressed-routing-header-crh X-BeenThere: spring@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG \(SPRING\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 14:40:06 -0000 --000000000000eaf781058564e01e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Mark, > As MPLS SR SIDs are 20 bits, then rounding up to an octet boundary and a 32 bit alignment, > I'd think 32 bit SIDs would be adequate to perform SR in an IPv6 network. > > As 32 bit SIDs are also the same size as IPv4 addresses, that may also create some opportunities to > leverage IPv4 support in existing protocols to suite carrying and processing 32 bit SIDs with some, possibly > slight, modification. For example, perhaps IPv4 Address Family support in OSPFv3 (RFC 5838) could be > somehow leveraged to suit SR. Thank you for describing your understanding of fundamentals of SR. I think SR while indeed started with the story of "less control plane is good for you" now clearly has evolved into not only reduction of control plane but what can be even more important to some users ability to request specific behavior via programmed functions of network elements on a per flow basis without actually per flow or per path signalling or state. Yes for some it may be very useful feature and I am sure some will call it overload of data plane or . There is no one size fits all. With that let's observe that till today SR did not require any new mapping plane to be distributed in control plane and to be inserted into data plane. This is clearly a precedent. Furthermore as we see in companion documents all additional network functionality is being taken away from SRH and is being shifted to Destination Options . As far as mapping plane I already pointed out in my Vector Routing proposal that we have one already it is called BGP. One needs to also observe that we as industry worked number of years of protocol suite called LISP allowing not only very good mapping plane, but also data plane integration. CC-ing lisp authors for their comments. Note also work for integrating SRv6 with LISP which is already is published. Since you correctly observed that now SID can be 32 bit and that is similar to the size of IPv4 my fundamental question is why not use something which already exists instead of defining some sort of new from scratch ? It will be perfectly fine to have full proper SRv6 with SRH and LISP or Vector Routing as an alternative options. I really do not see a room or need for yet one more mapping plane. What problem does it solve which would not be already solved elsewhere ? Kind regards, Robert 2) Is there an agreement that solutions which require additional per SR >> path state in both control plane and now in data plane are really something >> we should be endorsing here ? >> > > I think so. > > My understanding of what SR is fundamentally about is to reduce control > plane state and processing. The trade-off for reduced control plane state > and processing is to instead carry and encode most or all of that > information or its semantics as per-packet overhead. > > If the per-packet overhead becomes too large and expensive, then pushing > some of that information and processing back into the control plane should > be ok, as long as there is still a beneficial overall reduction in control > plane state and processing. > > As MPLS SR SIDs are 20 bits, then rounding up to an octet boundary and a > 32 bit alignment, I'd think 32 bit SIDs would be adequate to perform SR in > an IPv6 network. > > As 32 bit SIDs are also the same size as IPv4 addresses, that may also > create some opportunities to leverage IPv4 support in existing protocols to > suite carrying and processing 32 bit SIDs with some, possibly slight, > modification. For example, perhaps IPv4 Address Family support in OSPFv3 > (RFC 5838) could be somehow leveraged to suit SR. > > Regards, > Mark. > --000000000000eaf781058564e01e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mark,

<= div>
> As MPLS SR SIDs are 20 bits, then rounding up to an octet bou= ndary and a 32 bit alignment,=C2=A0
> I'd think 32 bit SID= s would be adequate to perform SR in an IPv6 network.
>=C2=A0<= /div>
> As 32 bit SIDs are also the same size as IPv4 addresses, tha= t may also create some opportunities to=C2=A0
> leverage IPv4 = support in existing protocols to suite carrying and processing 32 bit SIDs = with some, possibly=C2=A0
> slight, modification. For example,= perhaps IPv4 Address Family support in OSPFv3 (RFC=C2=A05838) could be=C2=A0
> somehow leveraged t= o suit SR.


Thank you f= or describing your understanding of fundamentals of SR.=C2=A0
I think SR while indeed started with the story of "less co= ntrol plane is good for you" now clearly has evolved into not only red= uction of control plane but what can be even more important to some users a= bility to request specific behavior via programmed functions of network ele= ments on a per flow basis without actually per flow or per path signalling = or state.=C2=A0

Yes for some it may be very useful= feature and I am sure some will call it overload of data plane or . There = is no one size fits all.=C2=A0

With that let's= observe that till today SR did not require any new mapping plane to be dis= tributed in control plane and to be inserted into data plane. This is clear= ly a precedent.

Furthermore as we see in companion= documents all additional network functionality is being taken away from SR= H and is being shifted to Destination Options .=C2=A0

<= div>As far as mapping plane I already pointed out in my Vector Routing prop= osal that we have one already it is called BGP. One needs to also observe t= hat we as industry worked number of years of protocol suite called LISP all= owing not only very good mapping plane, but also data plane integration. CC= -ing lisp authors for their comments. Note also work for integrating SRv6 w= ith LISP which is already is published.=C2=A0

Sinc= e you correctly observed that now SID can be 32 bit and that is similar to = the size of IPv4 my fundamental question is why not use something which alr= eady exists instead of defining some sort of new=C2=A0 from scratch ?=C2=A0=

It will be perfectly fine to have full proper SRv= 6 with SRH and LISP or Vector Routing as an alternative options. I really d= o not see a room or need for yet one more mapping plane. What problem does = it solve which would not be already solved elsewhere ?=C2=A0

=
Kind regards,
Robert


2) Is there an agreement that solutions which require additional per SR= path state in both control plane and now in data plane are really somethin= g we should be endorsing here ?=C2=A0

=
I think so.

My understanding of what SR= is fundamentally about is to reduce control plane state and processing. Th= e trade-off for reduced control plane state and processing is to instead ca= rry and encode most or all of that information or its semantics as per-pack= et overhead.

If the per-packet overhead becomes to= o large and expensive, then pushing some of that information and processing= back into the control plane should be ok, as long as there is still a bene= ficial overall reduction in control plane state and processing.
<= br>
As MPLS SR SIDs are 20 bits, then rounding up to an octet bou= ndary and a 32 bit alignment, I'd think 32 bit SIDs would be adequate t= o perform SR in an IPv6 network.

As 32 bit SIDs ar= e also the same size as IPv4 addresses, that may also create some opportuni= ties to leverage IPv4 support in existing protocols to suite carrying and p= rocessing 32 bit SIDs with some, possibly slight, modification. For example= , perhaps IPv4 Address Family support in OSPFv3 (RFC=C2=A05838) could be somehow leveraged to sui= t SR.

Regards,
Mark.
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One needs to also = observe that we as industry worked number of years of protocol suite = called LISP allowing not only very good mapping plane, but also data = plane integration. CC-ing lisp authors for their comments. Note also = work for integrating SRv6 with LISP which is already is published.=20 The main motivationn to have EID-to-SRH mappings in the LISP mapping = system is so you can run a LISP overlay on top of an underlay that = supports SR. If you want the paths between LISP RLOCs to be =E2=80=9Cunder= lay engineered=E2=80=9D, then the elements of the SRH header can be part = of the RLOCs LISP selects.=20 And when you do underlay path optimization, the new SRHs can be = registered dynamically to the mapping system. > Since you correctly observed that now SID can be 32 bit and that is = similar to the size of IPv4 my fundamental question is why not use = something which already exists instead of defining some sort of new = from scratch ?=20 >=20 > It will be perfectly fine to have full proper SRv6 with SRH and LISP = or Vector Routing as an alternative options. I really do not see a room = or need for yet one more mapping plane. What problem does it solve which = would not be already solved elsewhere ?=20 In the LISP mapping system I run, I was able to simulate (did not = implement referenced draft above), an EID-to-SRH mapping by simply = having an IPv6 EID map to an RLOC-set that used ELPs (Explicit Locator = Paths - where if the ELP is (A,B,C) it means A encaps to B, B encaps to = C), but rather than doing the encapsulation we take the (A,B,C) inserted = into one packet as an SRH. =20 The point of the exercise was to show the SR authors that the LISP = mapping system was a control-plane they could use and depend on (and = ready to go). 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Hi All,

 

Egress protection can be achieved using Anycast addr= ess, why this new solution is required ?

 

Thanks

Rajesh

 

 


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