From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 06 14:22:36 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1II7Dv-0000bC-Qa; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:22:35 -0400 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IFwkF-0004RB-TO for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:46:59 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IFwkF-0004R3-Ir for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:46:59 -0400 Received: from resnick1.qualcomm.com ([216.43.25.66] helo=episteme-software.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IFwkF-0003d3-8I for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:46:59 -0400 Received: from [172.28.170.243] (127.0.0.1) by episteme-software.com with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.1) for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:46:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: resnick@resnick1.qualcomm.com Message-Id: X-Mailer: Eudora [Macintosh version 6.3a0] Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:46:58 -0500 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: Pete Resnick Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7bac9cb154eb5790ae3b2913587a40de X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:22:35 -0400 Subject: [Tools-discuss] IMAP server for the archives X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi folks, What are odds you all could point an IMAP server at the mailing list archives so we could access those mbox files via IMAP? pr -- Pete Resnick QUALCOMM Incorporated - Direct phone: (858)651-4478, Fax: (858)651-1102 _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Aug 06 14:33:28 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1II7OS-0006rO-IK; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:33:28 -0400 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1II7OR-0006rJ-Bi for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:33:27 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1II7OR-0006rB-2H for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:33:27 -0400 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1II7OQ-0005LC-Bp for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:33:27 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=chardonnay.local ident=henrik) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1II7ON-0004vb-4C; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:33:23 +0200 Message-ID: <46B76972.6020400@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:33:22 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pete Resnick Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IMAP server for the archives References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: presnick@qualcomm.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, Michael.Lee@neustar.biz, sb@techsquare.com, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 Cc: "Lee, Michael" , "Scott E. Blomquist" , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Pete, (Cc:ing Michael and Scott) On 2007-07-31 20:46 Pete Resnick said the following: > Hi folks, > > What are odds you all could point an IMAP server at the mailing list > archives so we could access > those mbox files via IMAP? This isn't something I can easily do right away on the tools servers; it would involve importing the mail archives and preferably normalize them to have consistent URLs and file paths, and then checking up on the memory consumption and performance of the available IMAP servers to see that it would work on one of the tools servers. I don't know if it would be easy to do this at the NSS end, where there is (I think?) already at least one box dedicated to mail... Michael, Scott - is this something that could be set up easily? Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 09 11:14:04 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJ9gU-0006xn-TC; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:12:22 -0400 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IIpPY-0007Cy-Jd for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:33:32 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IIpPY-0007Cq-8g for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:33:32 -0400 Received: from aquinas.techsquare.com ([199.190.186.200]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IIpPX-0005u8-Rx for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:33:32 -0400 Received: from aquinas.techsquare.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aquinas.techsquare.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l78HXPK4034712; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:33:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sb@techsquare.com) Received: (from sb@localhost) by aquinas.techsquare.com (8.13.6/8.12.11/Submit) id l78HXGWQ034707; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:33:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sb@techsquare.com) X-Authentication-Warning: aquinas.techsquare.com: sb set sender to sb@techsquare.com using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18105.65116.305223.355052@aquinas.techsquare.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:33:16 -0400 To: Henrik Levkowetz Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IMAP server for the archives In-Reply-To: <46B76972.6020400@levkowetz.com> References: <46B76972.6020400@levkowetz.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.3.1 From: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:12:22 -0400 Cc: Pete Resnick , "Lee, Michael" , ietf-admin@techsquare.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf-admin@techsquare.com List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz writes: > Hi Pete, > > (Cc:ing Michael and Scott) > > On 2007-07-31 20:46 Pete Resnick said the following: > > Hi folks, > > > > What are odds you all could point an IMAP server at the mailing list > > archives so we could access > > those mbox files via IMAP? > > This isn't something I can easily do right away on the tools servers; > it would involve importing the mail archives and preferably normalize > them to have consistent URLs and file paths, and then checking up on > the memory consumption and performance of the available IMAP servers > to see that it would work on one of the tools servers. > > I don't know if it would be easy to do this at the NSS end, where > there is (I think?) already at least one box dedicated to mail... > > Michael, Scott - is this something that could be set up easily? Easily? Not really. Are there public-only imap servers out there? How does the MUA handle what has been read and not read? With Henrik there would have to be quite a bit of investigation before offering this service. Pete, are there other public services that provide this sort of feature? It seems like the alternative is implementing RSS feeds for the mailing lists. They are available at gmane http://rss.gmane.org/messages/complete/gmane.ietf.announce and I think that is also on From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 09 11:14:04 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJ9gU-0006xn-TC; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:12:22 -0400 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IIpPY-0007Cy-Jd for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:33:32 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IIpPY-0007Cq-8g for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:33:32 -0400 Received: from aquinas.techsquare.com ([199.190.186.200]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IIpPX-0005u8-Rx for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:33:32 -0400 Received: from aquinas.techsquare.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aquinas.techsquare.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l78HXPK4034712; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:33:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sb@techsquare.com) Received: (from sb@localhost) by aquinas.techsquare.com (8.13.6/8.12.11/Submit) id l78HXGWQ034707; Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:33:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sb@techsquare.com) X-Authentication-Warning: aquinas.techsquare.com: sb set sender to sb@techsquare.com using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18105.65116.305223.355052@aquinas.techsquare.com> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:33:16 -0400 To: Henrik Levkowetz Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IMAP server for the archives In-Reply-To: <46B76972.6020400@levkowetz.com> References: <46B76972.6020400@levkowetz.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.3.1 From: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:12:22 -0400 Cc: Pete Resnick , "Lee, Michael" , ietf-admin@techsquare.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf-admin@techsquare.com List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz writes: > Hi Pete, > > (Cc:ing Michael and Scott) > > On 2007-07-31 20:46 Pete Resnick said the following: > > Hi folks, > > > > What are odds you all could point an IMAP server at the mailing list > > archives so we could access > > those mbox files via IMAP? > > This isn't something I can easily do right away on the tools servers; > it would involve importing the mail archives and preferably normalize > them to have consistent URLs and file paths, and then checking up on > the memory consumption and performance of the available IMAP servers > to see that it would work on one of the tools servers. > > I don't know if it would be easy to do this at the NSS end, where > there is (I think?) already at least one box dedicated to mail... > > Michael, Scott - is this something that could be set up easily? Easily? Not really. Are there public-only imap servers out there? How does the MUA handle what has been read and not read? With Henrik there would have to be quite a bit of investigation before offering this service. Pete, are there other public services that provide this sort of feature? It seems like the alternative is implementing RSS feeds for the mailing lists. They are available at gmane http://rss.gmane.org/messages/complete/gmane.ietf.announce and I think that is also on our hitlist. -- sb. Scott Blomquist for ietf-admin@techsquare.com _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 09 11:14:04 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJ9gU-0006xi-QB; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:12:22 -0400 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IIKqc-00016z-PM for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:55:26 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IIKqc-00016r-Fm for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:55:26 -0400 Received: from yxa.extundo.com ([83.241.177.38]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IIKqa-0000RE-T6 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:55:26 -0400 Received: from mocca.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [83.241.177.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id l778tMpp002469 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2007 10:55:23 +0200 X-Hashcash: 1:22:070807:tools-discuss@ietf.org::EQBo0MaRCqt6GBt3:OqBv From: Simon Josefsson To: tools-discuss@ietf.org OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:55:22 +0200 Message-ID: <87ps1zd8qt.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_20, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on yxa-iv X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:12:22 -0400 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Wiki pages for WGs? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi! Sometimes it can be useful to use a wiki page to organize some work in a WG. I see there are wiki pages for Chairs, BOFs, IRTF, IESG, IAOC, Trust, but not for WG's. Could one be created? I don't think it needs to be organized as one per WG, just having it possible to create a WG-specific wiki page for some specific work item seems useful. Ultimately, having one wiki space for each WG may be nicer, but may create unnecessarily much overhead for you. Thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss our hitlist. -- sb. Scott Blomquist for ietf-admin@techsquare.com _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 09 11:14:04 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJ9gU-0006xi-QB; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:12:22 -0400 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IIKqc-00016z-PM for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:55:26 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IIKqc-00016r-Fm for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:55:26 -0400 Received: from yxa.extundo.com ([83.241.177.38]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IIKqa-0000RE-T6 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:55:26 -0400 Received: from mocca.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [83.241.177.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id l778tMpp002469 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2007 10:55:23 +0200 X-Hashcash: 1:22:070807:tools-discuss@ietf.org::EQBo0MaRCqt6GBt3:OqBv From: Simon Josefsson To: tools-discuss@ietf.org OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:55:22 +0200 Message-ID: <87ps1zd8qt.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_20, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on yxa-iv X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:12:22 -0400 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Wiki pages for WGs? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi! Sometimes it can be useful to use a wiki page to organize some work in a WG. I see there are wiki pages for Chairs, BOFs, IRTF, IESG, IAOC, Trust, but not for WG's. Could one be created? I don't think it needs to be organized as one per WG, just having it possible to create a WG-specific wiki page for some specific work item seems useful. Ultimately, having one wiki space for each WG may be nicer, but may create unnecessarily much overhead for you. Thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 09 11:57:25 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJAMM-0000uA-Vn; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:55:38 -0400 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IJAMM-0000oR-7B for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:55:38 -0400 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJAML-0000m5-Sl for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:55:37 -0400 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJAMK-0004wK-7c for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:55:37 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60118 helo=chardonnay.local ident=henrik) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IJAMH-0002rs-In; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:55:33 +0200 Message-ID: <46BB38F4.3070804@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:55:32 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Josefsson Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Wiki pages for WGs? References: <87ps1zd8qt.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> In-Reply-To: <87ps1zd8qt.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: simon@josefsson.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Simon, On 2007-08-07 10:55 Simon Josefsson said the following: > Hi! > > Sometimes it can be useful to use a wiki page to organize some work in a > WG. > > I see there are wiki pages for Chairs, BOFs, IRTF, IESG, IAOC, Trust, > but not for WG's. Could one be created? Some WGs already have them, and it's on my to-do list to roll this out for all WGs. If there is a specific WG you'd like this for, let me know which one or ones, and I'll set it up. > I don't think it needs to be organized as one per WG, just having it > possible to create a WG-specific wiki page for some specific work item > seems useful. > > Ultimately, having one wiki space for each WG may be nicer, but may > create unnecessarily much overhead for you. Not at all -- that's the way I'm planning to do it. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Aug 09 13:38:10 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJBvt-0006e6-0d; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:36:25 -0400 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IJBvs-0006e1-3D for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:36:24 -0400 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJBvr-0006ds-P9 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:36:23 -0400 Received: from yxa.extundo.com ([83.241.177.38]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IJBvp-0001VK-5K for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:36:21 -0400 Received: from mocca.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [83.241.177.38]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id l79Ha8Dn023383 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Aug 2007 19:36:13 +0200 From: Simon Josefsson To: Henrik Levkowetz Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Wiki pages for WGs? References: <87ps1zd8qt.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <46BB38F4.3070804@levkowetz.com> OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt X-Hashcash: 1:22:070809:henrik@levkowetz.com::Q5JamhneyqIBx5uk:qHdj X-Hashcash: 1:22:070809:tools-discuss@ietf.org::+gddxAgFVJg2psO8:rPjs Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:36:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <46BB38F4.3070804@levkowetz.com> (Henrik Levkowetz's message of "Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:55:32 +0200") Message-ID: <878x8kbofr.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on yxa-iv X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz writes: > Hi Simon, > > On 2007-08-07 10:55 Simon Josefsson said the following: >> Hi! >> >> Sometimes it can be useful to use a wiki page to organize some work in a >> WG. >> >> I see there are wiki pages for Chairs, BOFs, IRTF, IESG, IAOC, Trust, >> but not for WG's. Could one be created? > > Some WGs already have them, and it's on my to-do list to roll this out > for all WGs. If there is a specific WG you'd like this for, let me > know which one or ones, and I'll set it up. Hi Henrik! This was for the SASL WG, although we've found an external wiki setup for our purposes, so it is not immediately needed. Still, had a wiki already been in place via tools.ietf.org, I suspect we'd never bothered to find an external wiki. Having a wiki in place may actually inspire people to start using it for various mini-projects that may otherwise never be published publicly. "Build it and they'll come" and so on... >> I don't think it needs to be organized as one per WG, just having it >> possible to create a WG-specific wiki page for some specific work item >> seems useful. >> >> Ultimately, having one wiki space for each WG may be nicer, but may >> create unnecessarily much overhead for you. > > Not at all -- that's the way I'm planning to do it. Sounds great. 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