From julian.reschke@gmx.de Thu Apr 1 04:20:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30423A67B4 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 04:20:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.695 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.695 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.826, BAYES_50=0.001, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aj4N4zOMPaZ4 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 04:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D7EE3A683B for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 04:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Apr 2010 11:21:14 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.119]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 01 Apr 2010 13:21:14 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/e5JFtEa3eDHMUSjbcTE6nIaYn+XSOAoIK68Y1sl uZJRAMIyJtkCxf Message-ID: <4BB481A4.8030905@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:21:08 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xml2rfc , IETF TOOLS discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.51000000000000001 Subject: [Tools-discuss] ANN: xml2rfc 1.35 released X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:20:57 -0000 Hi, ...I always wanted to make a release announcement on April 1 :-) Here we go: Tony Hansen, Tom Taylor and I, with the help of Henrik Levkowetz, have upgraded xml2rfc to produce the latest and greatest boilerplate for use in Internet Draft submissions (just make sure to specify a submission date after 2010-03-31). The full set of changes compared to the latest "experimental" release (1.35pre1) is: - -- fixed typo in historic (RFC 2026 10.4) boilerplate - -- support Trust Legal Provisions 4.0 (first of two boilerplate changes) - -- whitespace appearing in reference when using annotation (fixed by Tony Hansen; thanks a lot) - -- support new ID boilerplate proposed by IESG (second of two boilerplate changes, contributed by Lars Eggert) - -- remove nonsense http-equiv=expires output There are some more outstanding issues, see for an overview. In particular, xml2rfc does NOT yet create the RFC boilerplate defined in RFC 5741, see for details. Also, this release is NOT yet available on xml.resource.org, nor as a web service. People running it locally (which I recommend anyway) can get the update from and . We're working on getting the online version up; hopefully we can get this done today. Furthermore note that this is the first release since Marshall T. Rose stopped working on xml2rfc -- so I wouldn't be surprised if we screwed up something. Please report back ASAP if you encounter a problem. Speaking of which, THANKS to Marshall for the many years of development and support for this tool. People interested in future development of this tool are encouraged to check out the source from , and in particular have a look at the open issues (). Related to this, I also updated rfc2629.xslt accordingly; get the full release from (it's not bundled anymore with xml2rfc). Best regards, Julian From stpeter@stpeter.im Thu Apr 1 07:11:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3583A6870 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:11:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.363 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.363 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.106, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7fTGs-rCEyIa for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8A23A6868 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from squire.local (dsl-228-252.dynamic-dsl.frii.net [216.17.228.252]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3747440E15 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:11:48 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4BB4A9A2.8080506@stpeter.im> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 08:11:46 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <4BB481A4.8030905@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4BB481A4.8030905@gmx.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040403010803040401000101" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] ANN: xml2rfc 1.35 released X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:11:17 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040403010803040401000101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 4/1/10 5:21 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > Tony Hansen, Tom Taylor and I, with the help of Henrik Levkowetz, have > upgraded xml2rfc to produce the latest and greatest boilerplate for use= > in Internet Draft submissions (just make sure to specify a submission > date after 2010-03-31). Thanks for working on this, and to Marshall for his many years of service= ! 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--------------ms040403010803040401000101-- From adam@nostrum.com Thu Apr 1 07:16:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716293A67B6 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:16:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.019 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_05=-1.11, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ICWxXJNl1Khu for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A063A68EF for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hydra-3.local (ppp-70-249-147-216.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [70.249.147.216]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o31EHApG094579 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:17:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <4BB4AAE6.6070809@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:17:10 -0500 From: Adam Roach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <4BB481A4.8030905@gmx.de> <4BB4A9A2.8080506@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4BB4A9A2.8080506@stpeter.im> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 70.249.147.216 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] ANN: xml2rfc 1.35 released X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:16:42 -0000 On 4/1/10 09:11, Apr 1, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 4/1/10 5:21 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > > >> Tony Hansen, Tom Taylor and I, with the help of Henrik Levkowetz, have >> upgraded xml2rfc to produce the latest and greatest boilerplate for use >> in Internet Draft submissions (just make sure to specify a submission >> date after 2010-03-31). >> > Thanks for working on this, and to Marshall for his many years of service! > +1. Thanks to all four of you. /a From julian.reschke@gmx.de Thu Apr 1 07:53:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502D73A69E8 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:53:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.413 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.413 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.944, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lk-4TOPSJW6U for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C8FD03A69CC for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Apr 2010 14:54:18 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.113]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp057) with SMTP; 01 Apr 2010 16:54:18 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/e41FcwTvek7vwtRdrd919fVKHRtRjPiGNe54fB9 NkK7fvPgE8SgEc Message-ID: <4BB4B394.8090802@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:54:12 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xml2rfc , IETF TOOLS discussion References: <4BB481A4.8030905@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4BB481A4.8030905@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.63 Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [xml2rfc] ANN: xml2rfc 1.35 released X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:53:49 -0000 On 01.04.2010 13:21, Julian Reschke wrote: > Hi, > > ...I always wanted to make a release announcement on April 1 :-) > > Here we go: > > Tony Hansen, Tom Taylor and I, with the help of Henrik Levkowetz, have > upgraded xml2rfc to produce the latest and greatest boilerplate for use > in Internet Draft submissions (just make sure to specify a submission > date after 2010-03-31). > ... Clarifying: there are no new values for the @ipr attribute, both xml2rfc and rfc2629.xslt just pick the right boilerplate based on the document's publication date. See . Best regards, Julian From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Thu Apr 1 08:06:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8621F3A682F for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:06:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.235 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.235 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.919, BAYES_50=0.001, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uHBtCAlfX+lG for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0133A6829 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.20.30.158] (75-101-30-90.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [75.101.30.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o31F7OEY078280 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:07:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4BB4B394.8090802@gmx.de> References: <4BB481A4.8030905@gmx.de> <4BB4B394.8090802@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:07:24 -0700 To: Julian Reschke , xml2rfc , IETF TOOLS discussion From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [xml2rfc] ANN: xml2rfc 1.35 released X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:06:58 -0000 At 4:54 PM +0200 4/1/10, Julian Reschke wrote: >Clarifying: there are no new values for the @ipr attribute, both xml2rfc >and rfc2629.xslt just pick the right boilerplate based on the document's >publication date. > >See >. For quite some time, the common advice has been "if your doc might have some text from before 2008-11-10, just use 'pre5378Trust200902' as the @ipr attribute value". How does the new version change the processing of drafts with this value? --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium From julian.reschke@gmx.de Thu Apr 1 08:33:57 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936D93A6B1F for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:33:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.251 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.251 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.782, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I8spGRUHOgAC for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A31E43A6AA5 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 08:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Apr 2010 15:33:48 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.113]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 01 Apr 2010 17:33:48 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/rR3c6az/rH0JKfsqSsGYH9/JMdLAZQag7xZqX1M qcOgC10BbHWH/F Message-ID: <4BB4BCD5.7020305@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:33:41 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Hoffman References: <4BB481A4.8030905@gmx.de> <4BB4B394.8090802@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.57999999999999996 Cc: xml2rfc , IETF TOOLS discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [xml2rfc] ANN: xml2rfc 1.35 released X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:33:57 -0000 On 01.04.2010 17:07, Paul Hoffman wrote: > At 4:54 PM +0200 4/1/10, Julian Reschke wrote: >> Clarifying: there are no new values for the @ipr attribute, both xml2rfc >> and rfc2629.xslt just pick the right boilerplate based on the document's >> publication date. >> >> See >> . > > For quite some time, the common advice has been "if your doc might have some text from before 2008-11-10, just use 'pre5378Trust200902' as the @ipr attribute value". How does the new version change the processing of drafts with this value? It doesn't; the "pre5378" escape clause is generated just like before, but now according to TLP 4.0, not TLP 3.0 or 2.0. Best regards, Julian From fred@cisco.com Thu Apr 1 09:19:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913FD3A69B9 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:19:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -108.727 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-108.727 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.742, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vTGnscwvUBDC for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (sj-iport-5.cisco.com [171.68.10.87]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289AB3A6A03 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-5.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAGJktEurR7H+/2dsb2JhbACbP3GcZpkdhQEEgyOGZg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,349,1267401600"; d="scan'208";a="176009858" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Apr 2010 16:19:24 +0000 Received: from stealth-10-32-244-219.cisco.com (stealth-10-32-244-219.cisco.com [10.32.244.219]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o31GJOVH009140; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:19:24 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Fred Baker In-Reply-To: <4BB481A4.8030905@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:19:23 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <75E66F3E-F109-4CAC-B559-1943872E952B@cisco.com> References: <4BB481A4.8030905@gmx.de> To: Julian Reschke X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: xml2rfc , IETF TOOLS discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] ANN: xml2rfc 1.35 released X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:19:00 -0000 Thanks for doing this. On Apr 1, 2010, at 4:21 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > Hi, >=20 > ...I always wanted to make a release announcement on April 1 :-) >=20 > Here we go: >=20 > Tony Hansen, Tom Taylor and I, with the help of Henrik Levkowetz, have = upgraded xml2rfc to produce the latest and greatest boilerplate for use = in Internet Draft submissions (just make sure to specify a submission = date after 2010-03-31). >=20 > The full set of changes compared to the latest "experimental" release = (1.35pre1) is: >=20 > - -- fixed = typo in historic (RFC 2026 10.4) boilerplate >=20 > - -- support = Trust Legal Provisions 4.0 (first of two boilerplate changes) >=20 > - -- = whitespace appearing in reference when using annotation (fixed by Tony = Hansen; thanks a lot) >=20 > - -- support = new ID boilerplate proposed by IESG (second of two boilerplate changes, = contributed by Lars Eggert) >=20 > - -- remove = nonsense http-equiv=3Dexpires output =09 >=20 > There are some more outstanding issues, see = for an = overview. In particular, xml2rfc does NOT yet create the RFC boilerplate = defined in RFC 5741, see = for details. >=20 > Also, this release is NOT yet available on xml.resource.org, nor as a = web service. People running it locally (which I recommend anyway) can = get the update from = and = . >=20 > We're working on getting the online version up; hopefully we can get = this done today. >=20 > Furthermore note that this is the first release since Marshall T. Rose = stopped working on xml2rfc -- so I wouldn't be surprised if we screwed = up something. Please report back ASAP if you encounter a problem. = Speaking of which, THANKS to Marshall for the many years of development = and support for this tool. >=20 > People interested in future development of this tool are encouraged to = check out the source from = , and in particular = have a look at the open issues = (). >=20 > Related to this, I also updated rfc2629.xslt accordingly; get the full = release from (it's = not bundled anymore with xml2rfc). >=20 > Best regards, Julian >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss http://www.ipinc.net/IPv4.GIF From jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com Wed Mar 31 19:38:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3C13A684A for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:38:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.591 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.591 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.278, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RBPVK0i9TiUs for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com (PacdcIMO01.cable.comcast.com [24.40.8.145]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498313A67FA for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ([10.195.246.152]) by pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP id 5503620.75768451; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:38:40 -0400 Received: from PACDCEXCMB04.cable.comcast.com ([24.40.15.86]) by NJMDCEXCRLY01.cable.comcast.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:38:39 -0400 Received: from 67.41.198.10 ([67.41.198.10]) by PACDCEXCMB04.cable.comcast.com ([24.40.15.86]) via Exchange Front-End Server webmail.comcast.com ([24.40.8.152]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 02:38:39 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.24.0.100205 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:38:36 -0400 From: Jason Livingood To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Searching I-Ds Thread-Index: AcrRRG2VOiWbbk1J4ESsQsP1cJUFcQ== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3352919916_2698020" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2010 02:38:39.0472 (UTC) FILETIME=[6FA7A700:01CAD144] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:43:14 -0700 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Searching I-Ds X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 02:38:15 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3352919916_2698020 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi -=20 I noticed you all recently updates the I-D search page =AD now at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/. It used to be, prior to this change, that I could bookmark a search page to find the current state of th= e various I-Ds that I was working on, such as https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/?filename=3D&id_tracker_state_id=3D&wg_id=3D&= o ther_group=3D&status_id=3D&last_name=3Dlivingood&first_name=3D I have been unable to find a way to do this in the new search tool=B9s UI, which seems to me as a lost feature. Perhaps there is indeed a way to stil= l do this and it is not readily apparent in the UI? If so, I may suggest a tweak to the UI. If not, I=B9d love to see that be a feature you add back sometime soon. Regards, Jason =20 Jason Livingood Executive Director Internet Systems Engineering National Engineering & Technical Operations Comcast Cable Communications 215-286-7813 jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com=20 --B_3352919916_2698020 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Searching I-Ds Hi -

I noticed you all recently updates the I-D search page – now at https://datatracker.ietf.org/d= oc/search/.  It used to be, prior to this change, that I could book= mark a search page to find the current state of the various I-Ds that I was = working on, such as https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/?filena= me=3D&id_tracker_state_id=3D&wg_id=3D&other_group=3D&status_id=3D&= last_name=3Dlivingood&first_name=3D

I have been unable to find a way to do this in the new search tool’s = UI, which seems to me as a lost feature.  Perhaps there is indeed a way= to still do this and it is not readily apparent in the UI?  If so, I m= ay suggest a tweak to the UI.  If not, I’d love to see that be a = feature you add back sometime soon.

Regards,
Jason
 
Jason Livingood
Executive Director
Internet Systems Engineering
National Engineering & Technical Operations
Comcast Cable Communications
215-286-7813
jason_= livingood@cable.comcast.com
--B_3352919916_2698020-- From julian.reschke@gmx.de Fri Apr 2 05:29:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A5A3A687F for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 05:29:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.633 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.633 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.836, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j-auhZmzorOq for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 05:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A685A3A6845 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 05:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Apr 2010 12:29:40 -0000 Received: from p508FC686.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.33]) [80.143.198.134] by mail.gmx.net (mp067) with SMTP; 02 Apr 2010 14:29:40 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/bLTxeo/vbscSlJ6vK5EoyZvtmRHHGQhoVzUfghM tyEyl4gNc95ywD Message-ID: <4BB5E32A.5000201@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 14:29:30 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xml2rfc , IETF TOOLS discussion References: <4BB481A4.8030905@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4BB481A4.8030905@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.56999999999999995 Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [xml2rfc] ANN: xml2rfc 1.35 released X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 12:29:11 -0000 On 01.04.2010 13:21, Julian Reschke wrote: > ... > Also, this release is NOT yet available on xml.resource.org, nor as a > web service. People running it locally (which I recommend anyway) can > get the update from > > and > . > > We're working on getting the online version up; hopefully we can get > this done today. > ... Thanks to Henrik this is now online at . Unrelated to this, I got a few questions about what the actual boilerplate change for the new Trust Legal Provisions is. Pointers: - TLP 4.0 with change tracking info: - The actual change in xml2rfc (have a look at the sample files): Best regards, Julian From henrik@levkowetz.com Fri Apr 2 09:44:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4045D3A698F for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:44:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.603 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.603 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.866, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DyxZaQKZyNTw for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744473A6939 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-74-121.a212.priv.bahnhof.se ([94.254.74.121]:55243) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Nxjz9-0000HL-8B; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 18:44:43 +0200 Message-ID: <4BB61EF9.9050605@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 18:44:41 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Reschke References: <4BB481A4.8030905@gmx.de> <4BB5E32A.5000201@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4BB5E32A.5000201@gmx.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 94.254.74.121 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: julian.reschke@gmx.de, xml2rfc@xml.resource.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:09:26 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: xml2rfc , IETF TOOLS discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [xml2rfc] ANN: xml2rfc 1.35 released X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 16:44:20 -0000 On 2010-04-02 14:29 Julian Reschke said the following: > Unrelated to this, I got a few questions about what the actual > boilerplate change for the new Trust Legal Provisions is. > > Pointers: > > - TLP 4.0 with change tracking info: > > > - The actual change in xml2rfc (have a look at the sample files): > There are also (unauthoritative!) text versions of, and textual diffs between the different trust documents at: http://tools.ietf.org/trust/ Regards, Henrik From Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com Tue Apr 6 00:41:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD763A67A2 for ; 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Tue, 6 Apr 2010 10:41:30 +0300 Received: from NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.86]) by nok-am1mhub-02.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.6]) with mapi; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:41:29 +0200 From: To: , Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:41:27 +0200 Thread-Topic: Searching I-Ds Thread-Index: AcrRRG2VOiWbbk1J4ESsQsP1cJUFcQEF7gkQ Message-ID: <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB77591C07D304@NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB77591C07D304NOKEUMSG01mgd_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2010 07:41:30.0755 (UTC) FILETIME=[92A62530:01CAD55C] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Searching I-Ds X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:41:51 -0000 --_000_808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB77591C07D304NOKEUMSG01mgd_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jason, I've added this to the enhancement ideas wiki page (http://trac.tools.ietf.= org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/EnhancementIdeas), so perhaps it gets implemented in the next code sprint. Meanwhile, the search page does accept both GET and POST requests: although= only POST is visible in the UI, something like http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/?name=3Dlivingood&act= iveDrafts=3Don seems to work. Best regards, Pasi From: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org= ] On Behalf Of ext Jason Livingood Sent: 01 April, 2010 05:39 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: [Tools-discuss] Searching I-Ds Hi - I noticed you all recently updates the I-D search page - now at https://dat= atracker.ietf.org/doc/search/. It used to be, prior to this change, that I= could bookmark a search page to find the current state of the various I-Ds= that I was working on, such as https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/?filena= me=3D&id_tracker_state_id=3D&wg_id=3D&other_group=3D&status_id=3D&last_name= =3Dlivingood&first_name=3D I have been unable to find a way to do this in the new search tool's UI, wh= ich seems to me as a lost feature. Perhaps there is indeed a way to still = do this and it is not readily apparent in the UI? If so, I may suggest a t= weak to the UI. If not, I'd love to see that be a feature you add back som= etime soon. Regards, Jason Jason Livingood Executive Director Internet Systems Engineering National Engineering & Technical Operations Comcast Cable Communications 215-286-7813 jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com --_000_808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB77591C07D304NOKEUMSG01mgd_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Searching I-Ds

Hi Jason,

 

I've added this to the enhancement ideas wiki page (http://t= rac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/EnhancementIdeas),

so perhaps it gets implemented in the next code sprint.=

 

Meanwhile, the search page does accept both GET and POST requests: although only POST is visible in the UI,

something like http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/?name= =3Dlivingood&activeDrafts=3Don seems to work.

 

Best regards,

Pasi

 

From: tools-discuss= -bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Jason Livin= good
Sent: 01 April, 2010 05:39
To: tools-discuss@ietf.org
Subject: [Tools-discuss] Searching I-Ds

 

Hi -

I noticed you all recently updates the I-D search page – now at https://datatracker.ietf.= org/doc/search/.  It used to be, prior to this change, that I could bookmark a search p= age to find the current state of the various I-Ds that I was working on, such a= s https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/?filename= =3D&id_tracker_state_id=3D&wg_id=3D&other_group=3D&status_i= d=3D&last_name=3Dlivingood&first_name=3D

I have been unable to find a way to do this in the new search tool’s = UI, which seems to me as a lost feature.  Perhaps there is indeed a way to still= do this and it is not readily apparent in the UI?  If so, I may suggest a tweak to the UI.  If not, I’d love to see that be a feature you = add back sometime soon.

Regards,
Jason
 
Jason Livingood
Executive Director
Internet Systems Engineering
National Engineering & Technical Operations
Comcast Cable Communications
215-286-7813
jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com

--_000_808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB77591C07D304NOKEUMSG01mgd_-- From henrik@levkowetz.com Wed Apr 7 04:43:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91763A68FC for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:43:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WFTCzcCStNFT for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE0B3A684A for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:54693 helo=dyn-fg117.sth.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NzTf3-00067H-K2; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:43:09 +0200 Message-ID: <4BBC6FCC.8020809@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:43:08 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Gellens References: <4BB36EBD.2040308@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rg+ietf@qualcomm.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] idnits complaint: boilerplate complaints hard to track down X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:43:20 -0000 Hi Randall, Sorry for the late response. Inline: On 2010-03-31 22:32 Randall Gellens said: > Hi Henrik, > > Sorry for not being more clear. I was using verbose mode, but it was > still difficult to find the exact boilerplate text, since I needed > the "may contain" version. Ok. I understand that there is a problem :-) , but I don't fully understand what the problem is. Could you point me to or send me the input file, and maybe a suggestion of what idnits could have said in order to be more helpful? Best, Henrik From henrik@levkowetz.com Wed Apr 7 04:59:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623E63A68FC for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:59:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HxfNVMsDjS4C for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616D33A63EB for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 04:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:55211 helo=dyn-fg117.sth.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1NzTui-0004Yr-4n; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:59:20 +0200 Message-ID: <4BBC7397.7010307@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:59:19 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Harrington References: <02d101cad0f6$ba1f8300$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <02d101cad0f6$ba1f8300$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: ietfdbh@comcast.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] idnits: example IPv6 address warnings X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:59:30 -0000 Hi David, On 2010-03-31 19:22 David Harrington said: > Hi, > > In draft-ietf-behave-address-format-05, there are rfc3849-compliant > example IPv6 addresses. > The addresses get split across lines, and then idnits considers them > not compliant as rfc3849-compliant example addresses. > > I recommend that idnits check to see if the "invalid" IPv6 address was > caused by a split across lines. For historic reasons idnits is written in AWK with a bash wrapper (AWK seemed like a good idea for a small program to check that no line was longer than 72 characters ...) so there are a lot of checks which are applied on a line-by-line basis which would be better done on paragraphs. These day I do assemble paragraphs from individual lines, and I've now moved the checks for example IPv6 addresses to the check_para() function in my idnits source. This will be part of the next release. > I consider this a low priority problem, but one that should get > addressed at some point, so editors and reviewers don't waste time > resolving these inaccurate warnings. Ack. Best, Henrik From ietfdbh@comcast.net Wed Apr 7 05:51:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01073A6AB4 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 05:51:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.401 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.401 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.709, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w0hT5F4Ofsb6 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 05:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC6D3A6AAA for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 05:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2abc1e00J0xGWP858crhRZ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:51:41 +0000 Received: from Harrington73653 ([67.189.235.106]) by omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2crh1e0032JQnJT3YcrhRE; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:51:41 +0000 From: "David Harrington" To: "'Henrik Levkowetz'" References: <02d101cad0f6$ba1f8300$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> <4BBC7397.7010307@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:51:39 -0400 Message-ID: <07c301cad651$115b94b0$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcrWScbQgeod4IBOQaC4XsQm9T6OswAB0XQA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <4BBC7397.7010307@levkowetz.com> Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] idnits: example IPv6 address warnings X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:51:44 -0000 thx dbh > -----Original Message----- > From: Henrik Levkowetz [mailto:henrik@levkowetz.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 7:59 AM > To: David Harrington > Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] idnits: example IPv6 address warnings > > Hi David, > > On 2010-03-31 19:22 David Harrington said: > > Hi, > > > > In draft-ietf-behave-address-format-05, there are rfc3849-compliant > > example IPv6 addresses. > > The addresses get split across lines, and then idnits considers them > > not compliant as rfc3849-compliant example addresses. > > > > I recommend that idnits check to see if the "invalid" IPv6 > address was > > caused by a split across lines. > > For historic reasons idnits is written in AWK with a bash wrapper > (AWK seemed like a good idea for a small program to check that no > line was longer than 72 characters ...) so there are a lot of checks > which are applied on a line-by-line basis which would be better done > on paragraphs. > > These day I do assemble paragraphs from individual lines, and I've now > moved the checks for example IPv6 addresses to the > check_para() function > in my idnits source. This will be part of the next release. > > > I consider this a low priority problem, but one that should get > > addressed at some point, so editors and reviewers don't waste time > > resolving these inaccurate warnings. > > Ack. > > > Best, > > Henrik > From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Thu Apr 8 12:18:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671773A6ABB for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:18:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wth7u5zGLfdS for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D032D3A6AE0 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:18:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1270754309; x=1302290309; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:date:to:from: subject:cc:content-type:x-random-sig-tag; z=Message-Id:=20 |In-Reply-To:=20<4BBC6FCC.8020809@levkowetz.com> |References:=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20<4BB36EBD.2040 308@levkowetz.com>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20<4BBC6FCC.8020809@levkowetz.com> |X-Mailer:=20Eudora=20for=20Mac=20OS=20X|Date:=20Thu,=208 =20Apr=202010=2012:14:45=20-0700|To:=20Henrik=20Levkowetz =20|From:=20Randall=20Gellens=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[Tools-discuss]=20id nits=20complaint:=20boilerplate=20complaints=0D=0A=20hard =20=20to=09track=20down|Cc:=20, =20Randall=20Gellens=20 |Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3D"us-ascii"=20 =3B=20format=3D"flowed"|X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b28; bh=fSjRdMee76KRbEdDBt0koJ2CXavJ112ayLmZkyyE60c=; b=HLoifOSnaOmNZBiqGrW1QKJnmULZ8K7tXhgo233CuHEcoHb6I6EEg1/5 04sZyh8CQ9N2N+NucSQWBBbtanF11RWAOpTXljjShqs1+jmSPLSjytzJj j27efNzIg8az3jyRHPMlY344VxXjsyEjA6AlX8O1AM9usm6a46SUX9yDG U=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,5945"; a="38247578" Received: from ironmsg01-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.15]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2010 12:18:28 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,169,1270450800"; d="scan'208";a="8487187" Received: from myvpn-l-962.ras.qualcomm.com (HELO [192.168.1.13]) ([10.64.131.194]) by ironmsg01-l.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2010 12:18:24 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4BBC6FCC.8020809@levkowetz.com> References: <4BB36EBD.2040308@levkowetz.com> <4BBC6FCC.8020809@levkowetz.com> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:14:45 -0700 To: Henrik Levkowetz From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Cc: Randall Gellens , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] idnits complaint: boilerplate complaints hard to track down X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:18:51 -0000 Hi Henrik, As an example, run draft-ietf-eai-mailinglist-05.txt through. It complains about the license text, which is fine, but it says: (You're using the IETF Trust Provisions' Section 6.b License Notice from 12 Feb 2009 rather than one of the newer Notices. See http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/.) What I think would be most helpful would be to replace the "See" sentence with "Use one of the allowable boilerplate text blocks from FOO. For more information on IETF licensing, please see http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/". Then, replace FOO with a URL to a page that lists the currently allowable boilerplate text blocks. That is, the three or whatever main alternatives, with versions with and without the "may contain ... prior to November 10, 2008" text. This way a draft author who discovers he is using a now-outdated boilerplate could easily see the allowable boilerplate blocks, pick the one that is appropriate, and replace the old text with the new. idnits 2.12.02 tmp/draft-ietf-eai-mailinglist-05.txt: Checking boilerplate required by RFC 5378 and the IETF Trust (see http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info): ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** The document seems to lack a License Notice according IETF Trust Provisions of 28 Dec 2009, Section 6.b.i or Provisions of 12 Sep 2009 Section 6.b -- however, there's a paragraph with a matching beginning. Boilerplate error? IETF Trust Legal Provisions of 28-dec-2009, Section 6.b(i), paragraph 3: "This document is subject to BCP 78 and the IETF Trust's Legal Provisions Relating to IETF Documents (http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info) in effect on the date of publication of this document. Please review these documents carefully, as they describe your rights and restrictions with respect to this document. Code Components extracted from this document must include Simplified BSD License text as described in Section 4.e of the Trust Legal Provisions and are provided without warranty as described in the Simplified BSD License." ... text found in draft: "This document is subject to BCP 78 and the IETF Trust's Legal Provisions Relating to IETF Documents in effect on the date of publication of .................................^ this document (http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info). Please review these documents carefully, as they describe your rights and restrictions with respect to this document." (You're using the IETF Trust Provisions' Section 6.b License Notice from 12 Feb 2009 rather than one of the newer Notices. See http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/.) At 1:43 PM +0200 4/7/10, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Randall, > > Sorry for the late response. Inline: > > On 2010-03-31 22:32 Randall Gellens said: >> Hi Henrik, >> >> Sorry for not being more clear. I was using verbose mode, but it was >> still difficult to find the exact boilerplate text, since I needed >> the "may contain" version. > > Ok. I understand that there is a problem :-) , but I don't fully understand > what the problem is. Could you point me to or send me the input file, and > maybe a suggestion of what idnits could have said in order to be > more helpful? > > > Best, > > Henrik -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history. --then U.S. Vice President Dan Quayle From henrik@levkowetz.com Fri Apr 9 02:35:07 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44EB3A6A21 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:35:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.856 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.856 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.745, BAYES_05=-1.11, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ASrbLjA81TsH for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5226D3A6A8F for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 02:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:59445 helo=dyn-fg117.sth.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O0Ab5-000358-3p; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 11:33:56 +0200 Message-ID: <4BBEF482.7050400@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 11:33:54 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Gellens References: <4BB36EBD.2040308@levkowetz.com> <4BBC6FCC.8020809@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020409090205020101020404" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rg+ietf@qualcomm.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, tme@multicasttech.com, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: Marshall Eubanks , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] idnits complaint: boilerplate complaints hard to track down X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 09:35:07 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020409090205020101020404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Randall, (Adding Cc: to Marshall, for the IETF Trust) On 2010-04-08 21:14 Randall Gellens said: > Hi Henrik, > > As an example, run draft-ietf-eai-mailinglist-05.txt through. It > complains about the license text, which is fine, but it says: > > (You're using the IETF Trust Provisions' Section 6.b License Notice from > 12 Feb 2009 rather than one of the newer Notices. See > http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/.) > > What I think would be most helpful would be to replace the "See" > sentence with "Use one of the allowable boilerplate text blocks from > FOO. For more information on IETF licensing, please see > http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/". Then, replace FOO with a URL > to a page that lists the currently allowable boilerplate text blocks. > That is, the three or whatever main alternatives, with versions with > and without the "may contain ... prior to November 10, 2008" text. Ok, now I understand. I don't have any objections; I actually think it would be a rather good idea to be able to do so. However, no such document is available from the trust today. I have some reason to believe it will be done for the next boilerplate revision, but it's actually needed also for the current one, to support such usage as you suggest above. Perhaps the trust could be encouraged to put up something based on the blank-ID template which Joe Touch sent to the WG chairs list recently. (Enclosed below). But until there's actually something which is on the trust's website and has official standing, I'm reluctant to refer to something else than the current trust document, however troublesome that is for the current cut-and-paste use-case. Finally, I have one other comment -- see after your next paragraph... > This way a draft author who discovers he is using a now-outdated > boilerplate could easily see the allowable boilerplate blocks, pick > the one that is appropriate, and replace the old text with the new. Yes. But maybe it's not well expressed in the "(You're using the ..." paragraph, but the most recent boilerplate, which can be just cut-and- pasted into the document, is the one quoted earlier in the idnits output, after the error message indicated with '**' and before the text found in the document. And idnits tries to do this for most earlier boilerplate, so the verbose output should give you something to cut-and-paste, for all outdated boilerplate. And if there's no modern boilerplate at all found, it will emit a full set of the most common ietf-stream boilerplate. I think the responses above still doesn't quite provide the help and assistance that would be reasonable in your case, but I also don't have a better response until the trust puts up a boilerplate sample document. Best, Henrik > > idnits 2.12.02 > > tmp/draft-ietf-eai-mailinglist-05.txt: > > Checking boilerplate required by RFC 5378 and the IETF Trust (see > http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info): > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ** The document seems to lack a License Notice according IETF Trust > Provisions of 28 Dec 2009, Section 6.b.i or Provisions of 12 Sep 2009 > Section 6.b -- however, there's a paragraph with a matching beginning. > Boilerplate error? > > IETF Trust Legal Provisions of 28-dec-2009, Section 6.b(i), paragraph 3: > "This document is subject to BCP 78 and the IETF Trust's Legal Provisions > Relating to IETF Documents (http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info) > in effect on the date of publication of this document. Please > review these documents carefully, as they describe your rights and > restrictions with respect to this document. Code Components > extracted from this document must include Simplified BSD License > text as described in Section 4.e of the Trust Legal Provisions and > are provided without warranty as described in the Simplified BSD > License." > > ... text found in draft: > "This document is subject to BCP 78 and the IETF Trust's Legal Provisions > Relating to IETF Documents in effect on the date of publication of > .................................^ > this document (http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info). Please review > these documents carefully, as they describe your rights and > restrictions with respect to this document." > > (You're using the IETF Trust Provisions' Section 6.b License Notice from > 12 Feb 2009 rather than one of the newer Notices. See > http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/.) > > > At 1:43 PM +0200 4/7/10, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > >> Hi Randall, >> >> Sorry for the late response. 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Good work. Here's a minor feature request: apparently it uses the fragment identifier to switch between the various tabs, such as #ballot and #writeup. It would be great if these would also work for bookmarked links (so that it becomes possible to directly navigate to a specific tab). Best regards, Julian From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Fri Apr 9 14:21:00 2010 Return-Path: <rg+ietf@qualcomm.com> X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDBC3A6967 for <tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:21:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dl2WQGzgaz+y for <tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine01.qualcomm.com (wolverine01.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.254]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BC53A68B3 for <tools-discuss@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:20:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1270848051; x=1302384051; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:date:to:from: subject:cc:content-type:x-random-sig-tag; z=Message-Id:=20<p06240601c7e54749e1aa@[192.168.1.13]> |In-Reply-To:=20<4BBEF482.7050400@levkowetz.com> |References:=0D=0A=20<p06240629c7d07a0fc061@dhcp-wireless -open-abg-25-196.meeting.ietf.org>=0D=0A=20<4BB36EBD.2040 308@levkowetz.com>=0D=0A=20<p06240605c7d9619357de@[192.16 8.1.13]>=0D=0A=20<4BBC6FCC.8020809@levkowetz.com>=0D=0A =20<p06240604c7e3d99b2c22@[192.168.1.13]>=0D=0A=20<4BBEF4 82.7050400@levkowetz.com>|X-Mailer:=20Eudora=20for=20Mac =20OS=20X|Date:=20Fri,=209=20Apr=202010=2014:14:36=20-070 0|To:=20Henrik=20Levkowetz=20<henrik@levkowetz.com>|From: =20Randall=20Gellens=20<rg+ietf@qualcomm.com>|Subject:=20 Re:=20[Tools-discuss]=20idnits=20complaint:=20boilerplate =20complaints=0D=0A=20hard=20=20=20to=09track=20down|Cc: =20<tools-discuss@ietf.org>,=20Marshall=20Eubanks=20<tme@ multicasttech.com>,=0D=0A=20Randall=20Gellens=20<rg+ietf@ qualcomm.com>|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3D" us-ascii"=20=3B=20format=3D"flowed"|X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201 .0b28; bh=7VZUs36qcBruBC5E+yS+agGdjEX/LgCRuQ4XXI0J8k8=; b=bDUM9DfRHS63wtxKlpuVR69LLt0UcQx1MmRqinzm/6l1NcCN6XXPMbla xHUPy504Xe8hc+5QeDW8ZmRvo3waiSuIbebcOpUF7tl9t/JhpRHj0IJyA tvos61xw5R+uYq9PnF5QyRhu6PCl+3sl2Vsn+SBlJ84CeJor3SO+b1wro g=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,5946"; a="38423846" Received: from ironmsg01-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.15]) by wolverine01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2010 14:20:49 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,176,1270450800"; d="scan'208";a="9153732" Received: from myvpn-l-962.ras.qualcomm.com (HELO [192.168.1.13]) ([10.64.131.194]) by ironmsg01-l.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 09 Apr 2010 14:20:30 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <p06240601c7e54749e1aa@[192.168.1.13]> In-Reply-To: <4BBEF482.7050400@levkowetz.com> References: <p06240629c7d07a0fc061@dhcp-wireless-open-abg-25-196.meeting.ietf.org> <4BB36EBD.2040308@levkowetz.com> <p06240605c7d9619357de@[192.168.1.13]> <4BBC6FCC.8020809@levkowetz.com> <p06240604c7e3d99b2c22@[192.168.1.13]> <4BBEF482.7050400@levkowetz.com> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:14:36 -0700 To: Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> From: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@qualcomm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Cc: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@qualcomm.com>, Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com>, tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] idnits complaint: boilerplate complaints hard to track down X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion <tools-discuss.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss>, <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tools-discuss> List-Post: <mailto:tools-discuss@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss>, <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:21:00 -0000 Hi Henrik, At 11:33 AM +0200 4/9/10, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Randall, > > (Adding Cc: to Marshall, for the IETF Trust) > > On 2010-04-08 21:14 Randall Gellens said: >> Hi Henrik, >> >> As an example, run draft-ietf-eai-mailinglist-05.txt through. It >> complains about the license text, which is fine, but it says: >> >> (You're using the IETF Trust Provisions' Section 6.b License >> Notice from >> 12 Feb 2009 rather than one of the newer Notices. See >> http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/.) >> >> What I think would be most helpful would be to replace the "See" >> sentence with "Use one of the allowable boilerplate text blocks from >> FOO. For more information on IETF licensing, please see >> http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/". Then, replace FOO with a URL >> to a page that lists the currently allowable boilerplate text blocks. >> That is, the three or whatever main alternatives, with versions with >> and without the "may contain ... prior to November 10, 2008" text. > > Ok, now I understand. I don't have any objections; I actually think > it would be a rather good idea to be able to do so. However, no such > document is available from the trust today. I have some reason to believe > it will be done for the next boilerplate revision, but it's actually > needed also for the current one, to support such usage as you suggest > above. > > Perhaps the trust could be encouraged to put up something based on the > blank-ID template which Joe Touch sent to the WG chairs list recently. > (Enclosed below). Doing so would be a terrific idea. I can see your dilemma of not wanting to point to an unofficial URL. I think the best course may depend on how long it will take to have something "official", If, as you suggest, the trust can take the Joe Touch text and put it up on a web page fairly quickly, then waiting for this seems best. On the other hand, if it might take the trust a few months, then putting up an unofficial page on the tools site, linked to from the idnits page, might be a good interim step; idnits can give a URL to this text. Really, I don't see much problem with an unofficial page, since it's an extension of idnits; it lists the text that idnits finds acceptable. > > But until there's actually something which is on the trust's website > and has official standing, I'm reluctant to refer to something else > than the current trust document, however troublesome that is for the > current cut-and-paste use-case. > > Finally, I have one other comment -- see after your next paragraph... > >> This way a draft author who discovers he is using a now-outdated >> boilerplate could easily see the allowable boilerplate blocks, pick >> the one that is appropriate, and replace the old text with the new. > > Yes. But maybe it's not well expressed in the "(You're using the ..." > paragraph, but the most recent boilerplate, which can be just cut-and- > pasted into the document, is the one quoted earlier in the idnits > output, after the error message indicated with '**' and before the > text found in the document. And idnits tries to do this for most > earlier boilerplate, so the verbose output should give you something > to cut-and-paste, for all outdated boilerplate. And if there's no > modern boilerplate at all found, it will emit a full set of the most > common ietf-stream boilerplate. I didn't think the text in the verbose response was what I needed to substitute. > > I think the responses above still doesn't quite provide the help and > assistance that would be reasonable in your case, but I also don't > have a better response until the trust puts up a boilerplate sample > document. > > > Best, > > Henrik > > >> >> idnits 2.12.02 >> >> tmp/draft-ietf-eai-mailinglist-05.txt: >> >> Checking boilerplate required by RFC 5378 and the IETF Trust (see >> http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info): > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ** The document seems to lack a License Notice according IETF Trust >> Provisions of 28 Dec 2009, Section 6.b.i or Provisions of 12 Sep 2009 >> Section 6.b -- however, there's a paragraph with a matching beginning. >> Boilerplate error? >> >> IETF Trust Legal Provisions of 28-dec-2009, Section 6.b(i), >> paragraph 3: >> "This document is subject to BCP 78 and the IETF Trust's >> Legal Provisions >> Relating to IETF Documents (http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info) >> in effect on the date of publication of this document. Please >> review these documents carefully, as they describe your rights and >> restrictions with respect to this document. Code Components >> extracted from this document must include Simplified BSD License >> text as described in Section 4.e of the Trust Legal Provisions and >> are provided without warranty as described in the Simplified BSD >> License." >> >> ... text found in draft: >> "This document is subject to BCP 78 and the IETF Trust's >> Legal Provisions >> Relating to IETF Documents in effect on the date of publication of >> .................................^ >> this document (http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info). Please review >> these documents carefully, as they describe your rights and >> restrictions with respect to this document." >> >> (You're using the IETF Trust Provisions' Section 6.b License >> Notice from >> 12 Feb 2009 rather than one of the newer Notices. See >> http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/.) >> >> >> At 1:43 PM +0200 4/7/10, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> >>> Hi Randall, >>> >>> Sorry for the late response. Inline: >>> >>> On 2010-03-31 22:32 Randall Gellens said: >>>> Hi Henrik, >>>> >>>> Sorry for not being more clear. I was using verbose mode, but it was >>>> still difficult to find the exact boilerplate text, since I needed >>>> the "may contain" version. >>> >>> Ok. I understand that there is a problem :-) , but I don't >>> fully understand >>> what the problem is. Could you point me to or send me the input file, and >>> maybe a suggestion of what idnits could have said in order to be >>> more helpful? >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Henrik >> >> > > > Attachment converted: TiLand:joe-touch-blank-i-d.txt (TEXT/R*ch) (016C4014) -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology. --Carl Sagan From Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com Sun Apr 11 23:58:52 2010 Return-Path: <Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com> X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0B23A69EC for <tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:58:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.344 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.344 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.604, BAYES_20=-0.74, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yo9gn6qJFxEN for <tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgw-mx03.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.122.230]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FB43A69F1 for <tools-discuss@ietf.org>; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (vaebh106.europe.nokia.com [10.160.244.32]) by mgw-mx03.nokia.com (Switch-3.3.3/Switch-3.3.3) with ESMTP id o3C6wSHt014601; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:58:40 +0300 Received: from esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.183]) by vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:58:34 +0300 Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.7]) by esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:58:34 +0300 Received: from NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.86]) by nok-am1mhub-03.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.7]) with mapi; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:58:33 +0200 From: <Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com> To: <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, <tools-discuss@ietf.org> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:58:33 +0200 Thread-Topic: [Tools-discuss] comment on new data tracker HTML UI Thread-Index: AcrX9f3CeY3X+rWlRpq1fqkpmy3ldwCFye3A Message-ID: <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB77591C2143AE@NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com> References: <4BBF41C8.1050702@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4BBF41C8.1050702@gmx.de> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2010 06:58:34.0305 (UTC) FILETIME=[91719310:01CADA0D] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] comment on new data tracker HTML UI X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion <tools-discuss.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss>, <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tools-discuss> List-Post: <mailto:tools-discuss@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss>, <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 06:58:52 -0000 Julian Reschke wrote: > Here's a minor feature request: apparently it uses the fragment > identifier to switch between the various tabs, such as #ballot and > #writeup. >=20 > It would be great if these would also work for bookmarked links (so > that it becomes possible to directly navigate to a specific tab). Hmm -- this should be possible already. At least for me, bookmarking something like this: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipfix-file/#ballot works as you'd expect? (with FF 3.6 and IE7, at least...) Best regards, Pasi From julian.reschke@gmx.de Mon Apr 12 01:22:28 2010 Return-Path: <julian.reschke@gmx.de> X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7190C3A68E3 for <tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 01:22:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.563 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.563 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.964, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QKaFxQgz0oKn for <tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 01:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3474F28C0EB for <tools-discuss@ietf.org>; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 01:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 Apr 2010 08:21:59 -0000 Received: from p508FD7FD.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.33]) [80.143.215.253] by mail.gmx.net (mp038) with SMTP; 12 Apr 2010 10:21:59 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+O8c1Pcp+OWRW+Ba3EZapdZUyLkNildbgWG1IKKl pzajHy6JKKwgkp Message-ID: <4BC2D823.20409@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:21:55 +0200 From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com References: <4BBF41C8.1050702@gmx.de> <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB77591C2143AE@NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <808FD6E27AD4884E94820BC333B2DB77591C2143AE@NOK-EUMSG-01.mgdnok.nokia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.62 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] comment on new data tracker HTML UI X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion <tools-discuss.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss>, <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tools-discuss> List-Post: <mailto:tools-discuss@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss>, <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 08:22:28 -0000 On 12.04.2010 08:58, Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com wrote: > Julian Reschke wrote: > >> Here's a minor feature request: apparently it uses the fragment >> identifier to switch between the various tabs, such as #ballot and >> #writeup. >> >> It would be great if these would also work for bookmarked links (so >> that it becomes possible to directly navigate to a specific tab). > > Hmm -- this should be possible already. At least for me, > bookmarking something like this: > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipfix-file/#ballot > > works as you'd expect? (with FF 3.6 and IE7, at least...) It does. I think I was trying to edit the URL in the address bar and just hit return -- that doesn't have any effect ("reload" does). But that's probably not he page's fault. Best regards, Julian From henrik@levkowetz.com Sun Apr 18 14:40:56 2010 Return-Path: <henrik@levkowetz.com> X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157013A681F for <tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 96X6HnWlVDqI for <tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB753A6774 for <tools-discuss@ietf.org>; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-200-166.a212.priv.bahnhof.se ([81.170.200.166]:57984) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <henrik@levkowetz.com>) id 1O3cEM-00069Q-72; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:40:42 +0200 Message-ID: <4BCB7C59.5000705@levkowetz.com> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:40:41 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Krauss <peter.krauss@saocarlos.sp.gov.br> References: <4BCB654D.5030607@saocarlos.sp.gov.br> In-Reply-To: <4BCB654D.5030607@saocarlos.sp.gov.br> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.170.200.166 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: peter.krauss@saocarlos.sp.gov.br, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Rfcdiff translated to Perl or PHP? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion <tools-discuss.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss>, <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tools-discuss> List-Post: <mailto:tools-discuss@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss>, <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 21:40:56 -0000 Hi Peter, On 2010-04-18 22:02 Peter Krauss said the following: > > Dear henrik, > > About the software > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/code > > there are a "translated version" for Perl or PHP? No, sorry. There's a plan to extract the interesting parts into a Python library module, skipping all the cgi-related and argument- parsing stuff, but that won't help you particularly. Sorry I can't help you more. Regards, Henrik From adam@nostrum.com Sun Apr 18 19:22:23 2010 Return-Path: <adam@nostrum.com> X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F403A6809 for <tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:22:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.371 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.371 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.185, BAYES_40=-0.185, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id krtKwWKGznZ3 for <tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com>; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2B83A6923 for <tools-discuss@ietf.org>; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hydra-3.local (ppp-70-249-147-216.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [70.249.147.216]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o3J2Lw6m092146 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 18 Apr 2010 21:21:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <4BCBBE46.6060106@nostrum.com> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 21:21:58 -0500 From: Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> References: <4BCB654D.5030607@saocarlos.sp.gov.br> <4BCB7C59.5000705@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4BCB7C59.5000705@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 70.249.147.216 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: Peter Krauss <peter.krauss@saocarlos.sp.gov.br>, tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Rfcdiff translated to Perl or PHP? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion <tools-discuss.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss>, <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tools-discuss> List-Post: <mailto:tools-discuss@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss>, <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 02:22:23 -0000 On 4/18/10 16:40, Apr 18, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Peter, > > On 2010-04-18 22:02 Peter Krauss said the following: > >> Dear henrik, >> >> About the software >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/code >> >> there are a "translated version" for Perl or PHP? >> > No, sorry. There's a plan to extract the interesting parts into a > Python library module, skipping all the cgi-related and argument- > parsing stuff, but that won't help you particularly. Sorry I can't > help you more. > > While it's not *that* script, I have done a very mechanical translation of the other HTML diff script (the one that generates the "diff1" format) into perl -- but it still relies on the wdiff command line program. In case you might find *that* useful, here it is: ###################################################################### # Adaptation of Bill Fenner's htmlwdiff script # Requires: wdiff from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/wdiff/ ###################################################################### sub htmlwdiff { my ($diff); my ($first, $second) = @_; my ($first_name, $second_name) = @_; my ($temp1) = "/tmp/iddiff1.$$"; my ($temp2) = "/tmp/iddiff2.$$"; &strip($first, $temp1); &strip($second, $temp2); $first_name =~ s/.*\///g; $second_name =~ s/.*\///g; $diff = "<html><head><title>wdiff $first_name $second_name\n
\n";
   $diff .= `wdiff -w "" -x "" 
-y "" -z "" $temp1 $temp2`;
   $diff .= "
\n\n"; unlink ($temp1); unlink ($temp2); return $diff; } ###################################################################### # Adaptation of Henrik's gawk script to strip internet-draft cruft ###################################################################### sub strip { my ($input, $output) = @_; my ($newpage, $sentence, $haveblank, $outline); open (STRIP_INPUT, $input); open (STRIP_OUTPUT, '>'.$output); while () { s/[\r\n]//g; s/[ \t]+$//g; if (/\[?[Pp]age [0-9ivx]+\]?[ \t]*$/) { next; } if (/^[ \t]*\f/) { $newpage=1; next; } if (/^ *Internet.Draft.+[0-9]+ *$/) { $newpage=1; next; } if (/^ *INTERNET.DRAFT.+[0-9]+ *$/) { $newpage=1; next; } if (/^RFC.+[0-9]+$/) { $newpage=1; next; } if (/^draft-[-a-z0-9_.]+.*[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]$/) { $newpage=1; next; } if (/^[^ \t]/) { $sentence=1; } if (/[^ \t]/) { if ($newpage) { if ($sentence) { $outline++; print STRIP_OUTPUT "\n"; } } else { if ($haveblank) { $outline++; print STRIP_OUTPUT "\n"; } } $haveblank=0; $sentence=0; $newpage=0; } if (/[.:][ \t]*$/) { $sentence=1; } if (/^[ \t]*$/) { $haveblank=1; next; } $outline++; s/\&/&/g; s/\/>/g; print STRIP_OUTPUT "$_\n"; } close (STRIP_OUTPUT); close (STRIP_INPUT); } From peter.krauss@saocarlos.sp.gov.br Sun Apr 18 13:02:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5BD3A6BA1 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:02:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hLCprjT3BPu0 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from if06-mail-sr02-mia.mta.terra.com (if06-mail-sr02-mia.mta.terra.com [208.84.243.69]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4768B3A6827 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 1gr.terra.com (1gr.tpn.terra.com [10.235.200.44]) by mail-sr02-mia.tpn.terra.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E92100028C8; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:08:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Terra-Karma: -2% X-Terra-Hash: 9aa3564c8b872593cdcc9e6599c100ae Received-SPF: none (1gr.terra.com: 208.84.242.62 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of saocarlos.sp.gov.br) client-ip=208.84.242.62; envelope-from=peter.krauss@saocarlos.sp.gov.br; helo=mail.saocarlos.sp.gov.br; Received: from mail.saocarlos.sp.gov.br (unknown [189.111.77.75]) (authenticated user op.pmsc@terra.com.br) by 1gr.terra.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0063AA0000048; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.120] (unknown [10.0.0.120]) by mail.saocarlos.sp.gov.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFD82B403; Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:02:22 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <4BCB654D.5030607@saocarlos.sp.gov.br> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:02:21 -0300 From: Peter Krauss User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100411) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik@levkowetz.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:08:30 -0700 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Rfcdiff translated to Perl or PHP? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:57:07 -0000 Dear henrik, About the software http://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/code there are a "translated version" for Perl or PHP? thanks Peter Krauss From peter.krauss@saocarlos.sp.gov.br Mon Apr 19 08:03:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E7428C1DC for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:03:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.892 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.892 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.707, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PymLqeRlRAqo for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from if03-mail-sr05-mia.mta.terra.com (if03-mail-sr05-mia.mta.terra.com [208.84.243.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EE93A6B9B for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 07:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 1qc.tpn.terra.com (1qc.tpn.terra.com [10.235.200.54]) by mail-sr05-mia.tpn.terra.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A3C24E; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:18:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Terra-Karma: -2% X-Terra-Hash: 375fb1cfe41123bff29788b9ec05f7dc Received-SPF: none (1qc.tpn.terra.com: 208.84.242.62 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of saocarlos.sp.gov.br) client-ip=208.84.242.62; envelope-from=peter.krauss@saocarlos.sp.gov.br; helo=mail.saocarlos.sp.gov.br; Received: from mail.saocarlos.sp.gov.br (unknown [189.111.77.75]) (authenticated user claudia.gab@terra.com.br) by 1qc.tpn.terra.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EAC889800022D; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.120] (unknown [10.0.0.120]) by mail.saocarlos.sp.gov.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE972B26B; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:54:59 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <4BCC6EC2.4090309@saocarlos.sp.gov.br> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:54:58 -0300 From: Peter Krauss User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100411) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Roach References: <4BCB654D.5030607@saocarlos.sp.gov.br> <4BCB7C59.5000705@levkowetz.com> <4BCBBE46.6060106@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <4BCBBE46.6060106@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:08:30 -0700 Cc: Henrik Levkowetz , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Rfcdiff translated to Perl or PHP? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:03:50 -0000 Dear Adam, Thanks a lot, your $diff 3 lines show how to use wdiff (!), I think this is the "kernel" of the "diff1 format", http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?difftype=--hwdiff and using it into a PHP code. Peter Adam Roach escreveu: > > > > On 4/18/10 16:40, Apr 18, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Hi Peter, >> >> On 2010-04-18 22:02 Peter Krauss said the following: >> >>> Dear henrik, >>> >>> About the software >>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/code >>> >>> there are a "translated version" for Perl or PHP? >>> >> No, sorry. There's a plan to extract the interesting parts into a >> Python library module, skipping all the cgi-related and argument- >> parsing stuff, but that won't help you particularly. Sorry I can't >> help you more. >> >> > > While it's not *that* script, I have done a very mechanical > translation of the other HTML diff script (the one that generates the > "diff1" format) into perl -- but it still relies on the wdiff command > line program. > > In case you might find *that* useful, here it is: > > ###################################################################### > # Adaptation of Bill Fenner's htmlwdiff script > # Requires: wdiff from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/wdiff/ > ###################################################################### > sub htmlwdiff > { > my ($diff); > my ($first, $second) = @_; > my ($first_name, $second_name) = @_; > my ($temp1) = "/tmp/iddiff1.$$"; > my ($temp2) = "/tmp/iddiff2.$$"; > > &strip($first, $temp1); > &strip($second, $temp2); > > $first_name =~ s/.*\///g; > $second_name =~ s/.*\///g; > > $diff = "wdiff $first_name > $second_name\n
\n";
>   $diff .= `wdiff -w "" -x 
> "" -y "" -z 
> "" $temp1 $temp2`;
>   $diff .= "
\n\n"; > > unlink ($temp1); > unlink ($temp2); > > return $diff; > } > > ###################################################################### > # Adaptation of Henrik's gawk script to strip internet-draft cruft > ###################################################################### > sub strip > { > my ($input, $output) = @_; > > my ($newpage, $sentence, $haveblank, $outline); > > open (STRIP_INPUT, $input); > open (STRIP_OUTPUT, '>'.$output); > > while () > { > s/[\r\n]//g; > s/[ \t]+$//g; > > if (/\[?[Pp]age [0-9ivx]+\]?[ \t]*$/) { next; } > > if (/^[ \t]*\f/) { $newpage=1; next; } > if (/^ *Internet.Draft.+[0-9]+ *$/) { $newpage=1; next; } > if (/^ *INTERNET.DRAFT.+[0-9]+ *$/) { $newpage=1; next; } > if (/^RFC.+[0-9]+$/) { $newpage=1; next; } > if (/^draft-[-a-z0-9_.]+.*[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]$/) { $newpage=1; > next; } > > if (/^[^ \t]/) { $sentence=1; } > > if (/[^ \t]/) { > if ($newpage) { > if ($sentence) { > $outline++; > print STRIP_OUTPUT "\n"; > } > } else { > if ($haveblank) { > $outline++; > print STRIP_OUTPUT "\n"; > } > } > $haveblank=0; > $sentence=0; > $newpage=0; > } > > if (/[.:][ \t]*$/) { $sentence=1; } > if (/^[ \t]*$/) { $haveblank=1; next; } > > $outline++; > s/\&/&/g; > s/\ s/\>/>/g; > print STRIP_OUTPUT "$_\n"; > > } > > close (STRIP_OUTPUT); > close (STRIP_INPUT); > } > From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Apr 20 11:07:16 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480C83A688C for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:07:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.346 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.346 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.253, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3Bbw8NyZXyTH for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA3F3A67E5 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-64-101-72-158.cisco.com (dhcp-64-101-72-158.cisco.com [64.101.72.158]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 605C940E15 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:07:04 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4BCDED46.3000701@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:07:02 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080602050900080902060700" Subject: [Tools-discuss] SPF with *-chairs@tools.ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:07:16 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080602050900080902060700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm sure this has been noted before, but one might receive mail delivery errors when sending to *-chairs@tools.ietf.org and using SPF; in particular I had to add "a:zinfandel.tools.ietf.org" to the TXT record for SPF at my DNS provider. 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--------------ms080602050900080902060700-- From richard.barnes@gmail.com Tue Apr 20 14:27:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1751C3A6BCA for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:27:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OnNcyOdqnTdJ for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com (mail-gy0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB71128C111 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gyh4 with SMTP id 4so3444877gyh.31 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:25:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=sbIgQ7MRnTh0djylPGWPmlsocTPXc8uZ8G2s9AG7KV0=; b=nmdYprANMM5YchA3fh2RBF716q2u9mBphhsXXdrGR2rfxT7efjPjvd8BxQBfxNSA1L 3pNKHDPoa3qE4AiN25NzRrd7QGlHiOo8EsAt+qoAcJmeAqa4G8U0zgXtoRrsapqVnw0E SW1FqSCNfcqUHOz5CHqJCilGAo8wxlVTlaUKY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=dRbgVBgoWLRZiEOgDMyovCZFDP2M5/o8Jz1iJ1RendFKSGpfAHWDfeJd0/JZO0w/yX E5QTLQr63v0nZ8IYMn+OfgtQBntidw9OTNxTnkjErHnphLoypNBqqtgd0LFJqg1V11+K flBWliompR6AUwn9lE9292vLOa7G47jG8ywd0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.44.4 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.44.4 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:25:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BCDED46.3000701@stpeter.im> References: <4BCDED46.3000701@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:25:45 -0400 Received: by 10.100.236.10 with SMTP id j10mr17901108anh.68.1271798745340; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Richard Barnes To: Peter Saint-Andre Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b2b5b07286b10484b1b8f3 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] SPF with *-chairs@tools.ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:27:42 -0000 --001636b2b5b07286b10484b1b8f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have also had this problem. On Apr 20, 2010 2:07 PM, "Peter Saint-Andre" wrote: I'm sure this has been noted before, but one might receive mail delivery errors when sending to *-chairs@tools.ietf.org and using SPF; in particular I had to add "a:zinfandel.tools.ietf.org" to the TXT record for SPF at my DNS provider. Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --001636b2b5b07286b10484b1b8f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

I have also had this problem.

On Apr 20, 2010 2:07 PM, "Peter Saint-Andre" <stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote:

I'm sure this has been noted before, but one might receive mail delivery
errors when sending to *-chairs@tools.ietf.org and using SPF; in
particular I had to add "a:zinfandel.tools.ietf.org" to the TXT record
for SPF at my DNS provider.

Peter

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--001636b2b5b07286b10484b1b8f3-- From jmh@joelhalpern.com Thu Apr 22 06:14:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036503A6AAD for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:14:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.259 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.259 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.519, BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wbKPceORWIO3 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hgblob.mail.tigertech.net (hgblob.mail.tigertech.net [64.62.209.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5483A6A86 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECD332284C6 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:14:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from [10.10.10.102] (pool-71-161-51-173.clppva.btas.verizon.net [71.161.51.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2FD87322849F for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4BD04B97.4010904@joelhalpern.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:13:59 -0400 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:36:09 -0700 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Issue tracker suggestion X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:14:19 -0000 We are using the issue tracker for the LISP WG, to make sure we don't forget issues that are raised. (That seems to be one of the primary goals of the tool, and it does that very well. Thank you.) While doing so, I noticed a state that I would have found helpful. When a document editor thinks that they have resolved an issue, it would be very helpful if they could change its state to reflect that fact. Since the resolution is not complete, and may even not be confirmed by the original person who raised the issue, I don't want to go directly to closed state. So I was wondering if it made sense to have a state like "resolution proposed" or even "resolved", that one can choose to go to before going to "closed". Yours, Joel From henrik@levkowetz.com Mon Apr 26 05:08:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C823A6AFB for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 05:08:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.4 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.4 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_38=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aHtm5n3RtzAr for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 05:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C993A69AD for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 05:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:56158 helo=dyn-fg117.sth.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6N6e-0000Ao-0m; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:08:08 +0200 Message-ID: <4BD58227.5030205@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:08:07 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joel M. Halpern" References: <4BD04B97.4010904@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: <4BD04B97.4010904@joelhalpern.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: jmh@joelhalpern.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Issue tracker suggestion X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:08:32 -0000 Hi Joel, On 2010-04-22 15:13 Joel M. Halpern said: > We are using the issue tracker for the LISP WG, to make sure we don't > forget issues that are raised. (That seems to be one of the primary > goals of the tool, and it does that very well. Thank you.) > > While doing so, I noticed a state that I would have found helpful. When > a document editor thinks that they have resolved an issue, it would be > very helpful if they could change its state to reflect that fact. Since > the resolution is not complete, and may even not be confirmed by the > original person who raised the issue, I don't want to go directly to > closed state. So I was wondering if it made sense to have a state like > "resolution proposed" or even "resolved", that one can choose to go to > before going to "closed". I've now modified the workflow for lisp's tracker, so that it has a new 'resolved' state, which needs to be set (with the appropriate resolution) before going to closed: accept = new -> assigned reassign = new,assigned,reopened -> new reopen = closed -> reopened resolve = new,assigned,reopened -> resolved close = resolved -> closed Alternatively, if you would prefer it, we can make 'closed' reachable also without going to resolved; that however leaves it as indeterminate when one is required to set the resolution -- I don't know how Trac will take to that... However, if you'd prefer that variant, let me know and we can try it. Best, Henrik From jmh@joelhalpern.com Mon Apr 26 06:00:40 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA8B28C117 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:00:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.92 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.92 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_50=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_38=0.6, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WX1wq4+lw7id for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hgblob.mail.tigertech.net (hgblob.mail.tigertech.net [64.62.209.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A4E3A6B96 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B1B32358B0; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:00:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from [10.10.14.10] (unknown [206.82.218.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43E673228405; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4BD58E66.4050007@joelhalpern.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:00:22 -0400 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <4BD04B97.4010904@joelhalpern.com> <4BD58227.5030205@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4BD58227.5030205@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org, Terry Manderson Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Issue tracker suggestion X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:00:40 -0000 Thank you. What you have done looks perfect. Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Joel, > > On 2010-04-22 15:13 Joel M. Halpern said: >> We are using the issue tracker for the LISP WG, to make sure we don't >> forget issues that are raised. (That seems to be one of the primary >> goals of the tool, and it does that very well. Thank you.) >> >> While doing so, I noticed a state that I would have found helpful. When >> a document editor thinks that they have resolved an issue, it would be >> very helpful if they could change its state to reflect that fact. Since >> the resolution is not complete, and may even not be confirmed by the >> original person who raised the issue, I don't want to go directly to >> closed state. So I was wondering if it made sense to have a state like >> "resolution proposed" or even "resolved", that one can choose to go to >> before going to "closed". > > I've now modified the workflow for lisp's tracker, so that it has a new > 'resolved' state, which needs to be set (with the appropriate resolution) > before going to closed: > > accept = new -> assigned > reassign = new,assigned,reopened -> new > reopen = closed -> reopened > resolve = new,assigned,reopened -> resolved > close = resolved -> closed > > > Alternatively, if you would prefer it, we can make 'closed' reachable > also without going to resolved; that however leaves it as indeterminate > when one is required to set the resolution -- I don't know how Trac will > take to that... However, if you'd prefer that variant, let me know and > we can try it. > > > Best, > > Henrik > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > From henrik@levkowetz.com Mon Apr 26 11:02:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BAD28C1FA for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:02:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.493 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.493 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.092, BAYES_40=-0.185, J_CHICKENPOX_38=0.6, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PyhnjnwDU124 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BB03A6774 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-5-165.a212.priv.bahnhof.se ([79.136.5.165]:50936) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O6Scz-0000oa-80; Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:01:54 +0200 Message-ID: <4BD5D511.40404@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:01:53 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joel M. Halpern" References: <4BD04B97.4010904@joelhalpern.com> <4BD58227.5030205@levkowetz.com> <4BD58E66.4050007@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: <4BD58E66.4050007@joelhalpern.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 79.136.5.165 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: jmh@joelhalpern.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, terry.manderson@icann.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org, Terry Manderson Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Issue tracker suggestion X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:02:41 -0000 On 2010-04-26 15:00 Joel M. Halpern said the following: > Thank you. What you have done looks perfect. Ok, good. That begs the question: Is this something which should be applied generally to all WGs which haven't requested a different workflow? Best, Henrik > Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Hi Joel, >> >> On 2010-04-22 15:13 Joel M. Halpern said: >>> We are using the issue tracker for the LISP WG, to make sure we don't >>> forget issues that are raised. (That seems to be one of the primary >>> goals of the tool, and it does that very well. Thank you.) >>> >>> While doing so, I noticed a state that I would have found helpful. When >>> a document editor thinks that they have resolved an issue, it would be >>> very helpful if they could change its state to reflect that fact. Since >>> the resolution is not complete, and may even not be confirmed by the >>> original person who raised the issue, I don't want to go directly to >>> closed state. So I was wondering if it made sense to have a state like >>> "resolution proposed" or even "resolved", that one can choose to go to >>> before going to "closed". >> >> I've now modified the workflow for lisp's tracker, so that it has a new >> 'resolved' state, which needs to be set (with the appropriate resolution) >> before going to closed: >> >> accept = new -> assigned >> reassign = new,assigned,reopened -> new >> reopen = closed -> reopened >> resolve = new,assigned,reopened -> resolved >> close = resolved -> closed >> >> >> Alternatively, if you would prefer it, we can make 'closed' reachable >> also without going to resolved; that however leaves it as indeterminate >> when one is required to set the resolution -- I don't know how Trac will >> take to that... However, if you'd prefer that variant, let me know and >> we can try it. >> >> >> Best, >> >> Henrik >> _______________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > From ietfdbh@comcast.net Wed Apr 28 12:14:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0466D3A687E for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:14:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.239 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.239 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.240, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EYw1uLvOltDy for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B63C3A6C1D for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Aykj1e0030xGWP8577E3Gv; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:14:03 +0000 Received: from Harrington73653 ([67.189.235.106]) by omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id B7E31e00C2JQnJT3Y7E3rY; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:14:03 +0000 From: "David Harrington" To: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:14:02 -0400 Message-ID: <041201cae706$f67dcca0$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcrnBvYGGAfUDw1ZQWW8+R7ZaG37JA== Subject: [Tools-discuss] Trac fields values X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:14:20 -0000 Hi, I wandered through the help pages but couldn't find how I could modify the field values for Trac tickets, such as milestone. Can you tell me how that is done? Thanks, David Harrington dbharrington@comcast.net ietfdbh@comcast.net dharrington@huawei.com From henrik@levkowetz.com Wed Apr 28 14:12:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465AD3A6860 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:12:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4mish-6CsaJQ for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (merlot.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574F33A681D for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-85-52.a212.priv.bahnhof.se ([94.254.85.52]:56430) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1O7EYJ-0004V2-UI; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:12:17 +0200 Message-ID: <4BD8A4AD.90508@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:12:13 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Harrington References: <041201cae706$f67dcca0$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <041201cae706$f67dcca0$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 94.254.85.52 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: ietfdbh@comcast.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Trac fields values X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:12:48 -0000 Hi David, On 2010-04-28 21:14 David Harrington said the following: > Hi, > > I wandered through the help pages but couldn't find how I could modify > the field values for Trac tickets, such as milestone. Can you tell me > how that is done? If you're logged in and are an admin for the Trac instance in question, you'll have an 'Admin' link to the far right of the horizontal main Trac menubar. There, under 'Ticket System', you'll find links to change: * Components * Milestones * Priorities * Resolutions * Severities * Ticket Types * Versions Best, Henrik From naesten@gmail.com Thu Apr 29 08:02:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CEE28C0E6 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:02:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.184 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.184 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z9SDTD9Ag61M for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f191.google.com (mail-iw0-f191.google.com [209.85.223.191]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC32F3A696F for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iwn29 with SMTP id 29so11768338iwn.17 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:01:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6/zJmeTbgZ5FPVcXga7jH6ky6mzGCJkhX+pkz1vbeWI=; b=UKUmzS+40Owk9J/YWpQkbRQBtu+ypux8j2bYs80dgGOt+K/Fp6QPvt0xl6Tvr21AOH fZARzxtNLUela7/ewZWTrPNOySAbK7T5qRFgXJUA86FQe39rdnZ9nJ+D9wHpIjWuLMWv RcmiEXsWMzKw4L323ARVv5sFneN4ccVp5TeK8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LWUN1/BXxAxwokx5bR41RKxuue8HQ7vFuk1r9r70UotkT+Llfx4E2VXSLR0H1P0hun kMnuuOOgXEkHLovbP4Zp4qkkI9t3WcT15NMymcasR8wK8stN/T54k7d3Lfud6rr/gIFz QWd6V4XKFt57NGR3N/GUec5+jFjZ2L7FfZl7Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.155.81 with SMTP id r17mr1328184ibw.56.1272553298407; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.169.204 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:01:38 -0400 Message-ID: From: Samuel Bronson To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0050450141bf4f350a048561675d X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:20:07 -0700 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Rfcmarkup-1.89 feedback X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:16:50 -0000 --0050450141bf4f350a048561675d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 It would be nice to have (or is that "alternative"?) elements in the html-rendered RFCs on http://tools.ietf.org/html They could all have one pointing to the plain text version, and some of them also have the PDF version... "next" and "previous" might not be bad for draft revisions, either... Thanks for such a cool tool, -- Sam --0050450141bf4f350a048561675d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It would be nice to have <link rel=3D"alternate"> (or is th= at "alternative"?) elements in the html-rendered RFCs on http://tools.ietf.org/html

They = could all have one pointing to the plain text version, and some of them als= o have the PDF version...

"next" and "previous" might not be bad for draft re= visions, either...

Thanks for such a cool tool,
-- Sam
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