From sm@resistor.net Thu Dec 1 23:14:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B135C21F901A for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 23:14:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uooXkQJ5gC5q for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 23:14:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDAC21F9015 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 23:14:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from SUBMAN.resistor.net (IDENT:sm@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.4/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pB27E9YI017747 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 23:14:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1322810054; bh=x1la7bk/eXUa6EHMdf0twuLXRUj8Qo66u+3e7mjECZo=; h=Message-Id:Date:To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Cc; b=XJDayk6pJ+vUIkFHKammOjElwHr1X/MnwnMliKpZdmh24DHx/P2F2VYgRzvu/NLky Yants17PtfrdsAtfEEFCqmobje4LQSYX4uVbw/p1jIoOLC8bRfREHyXMVlzkE1SqKf nh6IVTUWggUf215N3kB1yfD0twImcb1l0rKJ5QlM= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=resistor.net; s=mail; t=1322810054; bh=x1la7bk/eXUa6EHMdf0twuLXRUj8Qo66u+3e7mjECZo=; h=Message-Id:Date:To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Cc; b=rAB4IdykLXnh8R+pZSngUh2IEpozByZ3I6KeehkzDUaT8MuueaJK2GLQrs4mNy6bn Uu16pjgfmXCSM5nfMqJY0TKFV5BNyQoihygL6gOS6QYCWQ1DPEsDGbvxdz7j0N01fE TLKj43UIa6GlKcXaz9zBeQNEN7RKI95r34L6nxIM= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20111201230943.0a0e6f28@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 23:14:07 -0800 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: SM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Tools-discuss] ./idnits: line 3478: echo: write error: No space left on device X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 07:14:15 -0000 Hello, The following error occurred on the system running idnits: tmp/draft-ietf-marf-authfailure-report-05.txt: tr: write error: No space left on device ./idnits: line 3478: echo: write error: No space left on device Regards, -sm From marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca Thu Dec 8 13:31:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5278521F8AAC for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:31:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.68 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.68 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JufzfKYHDL5S for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [206.123.31.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD1F21F8669 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.20.10.2] (unknown [74.198.165.11]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C8C4A21F51 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:30:53 -0500 (EST) From: Marc Blanchet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:30:50 -0500 Message-Id: <7698E6AB-364D-4E6A-9F14-06BC002807AA@viagenie.ca> To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Tools-discuss] id announcements X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:31:25 -0000 hello, sorry if already being discussed or put in specs or ... I wonder if it would be possible to update the ID announce template with = the following: - remove ftp and just use http for referencing the draft url - add pointer to the diff url between the new version being announced = and the previous one. - add pointer to the status of the draft=20 Regards, Marc.= From stpeter@stpeter.im Thu Dec 8 13:42:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217E821F8B9C for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:42:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.858 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.858 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.259, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uFCz4KxQI76d for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8790521F8B9B for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 13:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-64-101-72-124.cisco.com (unknown [64.101.72.124]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 183504236A; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 14:50:16 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4EE12F5E.4060504@stpeter.im> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:42:54 -0700 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Blanchet References: <7698E6AB-364D-4E6A-9F14-06BC002807AA@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <7698E6AB-364D-4E6A-9F14-06BC002807AA@viagenie.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] id announcements X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:42:56 -0000 On 12/8/11 2:30 PM, Marc Blanchet wrote: > hello, > sorry if already being discussed or put in specs or ... > > I wonder if it would be possible to update the ID announce template with the following: > - remove ftp and just use http for referencing the draft url > - add pointer to the diff url between the new version being announced and the previous one. > - add pointer to the status of the draft +1. I always need to hunt for the diff URL (but I realize that it's not created immediately). Perhaps point to the datatracker URL instead of the txt file anyway? Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ From dwing@cisco.com Thu Dec 8 17:41:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABA71F0C43 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 17:41:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.456 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.456 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.143, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TKV27KqPLhBu for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 17:41:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E9B1F0C3B for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 17:41:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=dwing@cisco.com; l=1250; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1323394913; x=1324604513; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date: message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HDV/ebvqYtIjiLWHt/0318pFnzUyhWMgwh2PwPtEqg8=; b=HQCZI+8vz66+vKAxbZQF30mIWsY/c+YOLD5xkuzBgCwTDc/dqmO5TXrW VIGPGS+HE72iWf9aZ3Dr95ZZlsRJz76HkpqexfEPnUwuzceBjHEKsJk47 Yqs6uYZVip5DeZPDEa9VT1unUH4Ru/ceZf8q2eD6hHfdK8VSe5jeEpuJ0 c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoUAAIxm4U6rRDoG/2dsb2JhbABDmi2Bao5TgQWBcgEBAQMBAQEBBQoBFxA0CwUHAQMCCQ8CBAEBAScHGQ4VCgkIAQEEARILF4dlCJlPAZ17BIs7BIguhEYoAZoV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,322,1320624000"; d="scan'208";a="18616689" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Dec 2011 01:41:53 +0000 Received: from dwingWS ([10.154.160.181]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pB91frEo023084; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 01:41:53 GMT From: "Dan Wing" To: "'Peter Saint-Andre'" , "'Marc Blanchet'" References: <7698E6AB-364D-4E6A-9F14-06BC002807AA@viagenie.ca> <4EE12F5E.4060504@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4EE12F5E.4060504@stpeter.im> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 17:41:53 -0800 Message-ID: <01c301ccb613$ba76bf40$2f643dc0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acy18luT/wLODBncQu2zr3zKD8rZ1AAIRyDQ Content-Language: en-us Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] id announcements X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 01:41:54 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tools-discuss- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 1:43 PM > To: Marc Blanchet > Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] id announcements > > On 12/8/11 2:30 PM, Marc Blanchet wrote: > > hello, > > sorry if already being discussed or put in specs or ... > > > > I wonder if it would be possible to update the ID announce template > with the following: > > - remove ftp and just use http for referencing the draft url > > - add pointer to the diff url between the new version being announced > and the previous one. > > - add pointer to the status of the draft > > +1. I always need to hunt for the diff URL (but I realize that it's not > created immediately). It's now a one minute delay, after some changes Henrik made a couple month ago. Quite acceptable. > Perhaps point to the datatracker URL instead of > the txt file anyway? -d > Peter > > -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://stpeter.im/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From henrik@levkowetz.com Fri Dec 9 06:58:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B9F21F84BA for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 06:58:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.563 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.563 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BR7pg-dtvDUf for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 06:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7E021F84AD for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 06:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:55341 helo=brunello.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1RZ1uI-0004rd-7f; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 15:58:39 +0100 Message-ID: <4EE2221D.60905@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 15:58:37 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Blanchet References: <7698E6AB-364D-4E6A-9F14-06BC002807AA@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <7698E6AB-364D-4E6A-9F14-06BC002807AA@viagenie.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] id announcements X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:58:57 -0000 Hi Marc, On 2011-12-08 22:30 Marc Blanchet said: > hello, > sorry if already being discussed or put in specs or ... > > I wonder if it would be possible to update the ID announce template with the following: > - remove ftp and just use http for referencing the draft url > - add pointer to the diff url between the new version being announced and the previous one. > - add pointer to the status of the draft Done in the sources. Will be available in the next release. Best regards, Henrik From marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca Fri Dec 9 08:58:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A271A21F849E for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:58:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u7-Mu-KolwxG for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:58:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [206.123.31.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A8921F8491 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:58:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from h115.viagenie.ca (h115.viagenie.ca [206.123.31.115]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E1F9721CC9; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:58:02 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Marc Blanchet In-Reply-To: <4EE2221D.60905@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:58:01 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6B452E2A-29B3-4AB6-8036-8CEF09F09D9F@viagenie.ca> References: <7698E6AB-364D-4E6A-9F14-06BC002807AA@viagenie.ca> <4EE2221D.60905@levkowetz.com> To: Henrik Levkowetz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] id announcements X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 16:58:34 -0000 cool! thanks a lot! Marc. Le 2011-12-09 =E0 09:58, Henrik Levkowetz a =E9crit : > Hi Marc, >=20 > On 2011-12-08 22:30 Marc Blanchet said: >> hello, >> sorry if already being discussed or put in specs or ... >>=20 >> I wonder if it would be possible to update the ID announce template = with the following: >> - remove ftp and just use http for referencing the draft url >> - add pointer to the diff url between the new version being announced = and the previous one. >> - add pointer to the status of the draft=20 >=20 > Done in the sources. Will be available in the next release. >=20 >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Henrik From stpeter@stpeter.im Fri Dec 9 09:04:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF8421F8672 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:04:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.515 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.515 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.916, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1DizCBt8FbFV for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:04:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3773121F8669 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:04:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-64-101-72-189.cisco.com (unknown [64.101.72.189]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B111442376; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 10:11:23 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4EE23F7D.4020908@stpeter.im> Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 10:03:57 -0700 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Blanchet References: <7698E6AB-364D-4E6A-9F14-06BC002807AA@viagenie.ca> <4EE2221D.60905@levkowetz.com> <6B452E2A-29B3-4AB6-8036-8CEF09F09D9F@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <6B452E2A-29B3-4AB6-8036-8CEF09F09D9F@viagenie.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Henrik Levkowetz , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] id announcements X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 17:04:01 -0000 On 12/9/11 9:58 AM, Marc Blanchet wrote: > cool! thanks a lot! Henrik and his team continue to amaze me. From hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com Fri Dec 9 20:03:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145461F0C43 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 20:03:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.200, BAYES_00=-2.599, FROM_LOCAL_NOVOWEL=0.5, J_CHICKENPOX_45=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CoKoL+vyjLoD for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 20:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ww0-f44.google.com (mail-ww0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458801F0C38 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 20:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by wgbdr13 with SMTP id dr13so5348256wgb.13 for ; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:03:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D5rL4tkjJGtgB6UXvrnf7H2R5o8H111m3COB1aOpnkE=; b=lUKiTLQa3/Nwa3xBlQt0zXSNZqcBKIJvd7z//OMOWYvBiCi/8tkfpjSXGrgQTYP+vJ OK4usgF9sRwp2dD9ac1bHljpfiDJXfBpl7McyvXneabVDwxOv+2dFf5QwSprScrSt1DE atHkHgkHxeJAyOEve3Hcz5uWuUuHXApwTnjSI= Received: by 10.216.45.67 with SMTP id o45mr1161659web.79.1323489825402; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:03:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.59.206 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 20:03:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EE2221D.60905@levkowetz.com> References: <7698E6AB-364D-4E6A-9F14-06BC002807AA@viagenie.ca> <4EE2221D.60905@levkowetz.com> From: Frank Ellermann Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 05:03:04 +0100 Message-ID: To: Henrik Levkowetz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] id announcements X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 04:03:47 -0000 On 9 December 2011 15:58, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Done in the sources. =A0Will be available in the next release. Thanks, the missing link to the ietf.tools html I-D in draft announcements was often the reason why I did NOT look into diffs or datatracker comments. Of course it is ridiculous, but 2 clicks are 100% more than 1 click for lazy folks... :-) -Frank From dhc2@dcrocker.net Sat Dec 10 07:12:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E1A21F8C0E for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 07:12:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p-lsStGbIx-6 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 07:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494CD21F8BFE for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 07:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (adsl-67-127-55-53.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [67.127.55.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBAFCPvS006099 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 07:12:31 -0800 Message-ID: <4EE376D2.3060307@dcrocker.net> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 07:12:18 -0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <7698E6AB-364D-4E6A-9F14-06BC002807AA@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <7698E6AB-364D-4E6A-9F14-06BC002807AA@viagenie.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Sat, 10 Dec 2011 07:12:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] id announcements X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:12:33 -0000 On 12/8/2011 1:30 PM, Marc Blanchet wrote: > - add pointer to the diff url between the new version being announced and the previous one. > - add pointer to the status of the draft I suggest that simply including the pointer to the datatracker entry for the draft is better. It accomplishes the above two items and more. Specifically: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0F621F8BE8 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 12:09:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RyTyCTVr7-Sl for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 12:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4893F21F8B11 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 12:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (cpe-76-187-92-156.tx.res.rr.com [76.187.92.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pB8K9KQa004986 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2011 14:09:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) From: Ben Campbell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 14:09:23 -0600 Message-Id: <59F6B824-0244-48B7-8D70-A58432D2559E@nostrum.com> To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 76.187.92.156 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:16:32 -0800 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Line numbers in idnits X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:09:24 -0000 Hi, When I run idnits in verbose mode, the reported line numbers for errors = do not match the line numbers in the idnits output. They do, however, = match the line numbers from the source file. It looks like the idnits = output doesn't count white space in its line numbering, so the numbers = end up being different. It would be helpful to have the error report match the numbering in the = idnits output, and to a lesser degree, to have the numbering in the = idnits output match the numbering would would find viewing the source = file in a typical text editor. Thanks! Ben Campbell. From harish.pillay@gmail.com Sun Dec 11 02:02:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508F521F8ABE for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:02:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fqmRnUSuMAIw for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:02:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AEFA21F8A66 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so4872196bkb.31 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:02:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=ZwX/BkKlgo3gx+uYZPRulTW9zRMblTbX77p9+1Ytcjs=; b=m1NMOZTNqvfrT3Lqs4GSwqTT/QJ6kOrTlzreAa7FcdKfB3Ma/tIzGzk4pSML/H1Rph 6km6863p9Z50JXB2hgUphy+v0ixNeo8KAvzOw2xSrLqTrdzseGc9/FhTkwIWMU3TnX5k uhIml8UKCWraNeC2TSif3wyxwYG09ePR8gTTc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.145.81 with SMTP id c17mr7514414bkv.132.1323597739754; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:02:19 -0800 (PST) Sender: harish.pillay@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.65.3 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:02:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 18:02:19 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: PyCrpN2hVgrkyzTkBUvnIwC8JRQ Message-ID: From: Harish Pillay 9v1hp To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:16:32 -0800 Subject: [Tools-discuss] The tools repository X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:02:22 -0000 Hi. I came across http://tools.ietf.org/about and I woud like to chat with someone regarding some work I am doing (as a volunteer) for the ISO/IEC JTC1. I am the covenor of a Ad-Hoc of the JTC 1 called "Enabling Tools" whose charter is to look at tools to collaborate and help create standards that the various standards committees, working groups of the JTC1 can use. Today, these various subgroups do what works for them in general. They are welcome to use tools made available by the ISO (Webex and a CRM-tool from OpenText). I am convenor of this Ad-hoc and the group comprises interested people from various national bodies. I am a volunteer with the Singapore IT Standards Committee (www.itsc.org.sg) and me convening this ad-hoc is purely because I attended the JTC1 plenary in Belfast in 2010 as a rep from the Singapore national body and when the call came from the plenary for someone to head up the ad-hoc, I raised my hand. I am very partial to how IETF does stuff and I think IETF's model of standards-making is the right model. I would like to take the ideas of IETF and influence ISO/IEC JTC 1. I think starting at collaboration tools would be a good start and so I'd like to hear from someone on this. Thanks. -- Harish Pillay h.pillay@ieee.org gpg id: 746809E3 From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Mon Dec 12 08:36:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E5021F8B6D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:36:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.537 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.537 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.062, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k4DKdVpr68eG for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:36:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4C021F8B66 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:36:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.20.30.100] (50-0-66-4.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.0.66.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pBCGaAsm032584 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:36:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:36:10 -0800 Message-Id: To: Tools Team Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [Tools-discuss] Automatically tracking changes to pages on the IETF wiki? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:36:12 -0000 Is there a way to subscribe to a mailing list / feed for all changes to = a page on the IETF wiki? I would rather not have to write a scraper = script that pulls the page history every few hours and diffs it. --Paul Hoffman From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Mon Dec 12 08:44:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFDA21F891D for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:44:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.539 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.539 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95GKut-dV4tQ for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:44:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C11221F8A7B for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.20.30.100] (50-0-66-4.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.0.66.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pBCGikhP032969 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:44:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:44:46 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Harish Pillay 9v1hp X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] The tools repository X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:44:52 -0000 On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:02 AM, Harish Pillay 9v1hp wrote: > Hi. I came across http://tools.ietf.org/about and I woud like to > chat with someone regarding some work I am doing (as a volunteer) > for the ISO/IEC JTC1. >=20 > I am the covenor of a Ad-Hoc of the JTC 1 called "Enabling Tools" = whose > charter is to look at tools to collaborate and help create standards = that > the various standards committees, working groups of the JTC1 can use. >=20 > Today, these various subgroups do what works for them in general. They > are welcome to use tools made available by the ISO (Webex and a > CRM-tool from OpenText). >=20 > I am convenor of this Ad-hoc and the group comprises interested people > from various national bodies. I am a volunteer with the Singapore IT > Standards Committee (www.itsc.org.sg) and me convening this ad-hoc > is purely because I attended the JTC1 plenary in Belfast in 2010 as a > rep from the Singapore national body and when the call came from the > plenary for someone to head up the ad-hoc, I raised my hand. >=20 > I am very partial to how IETF does stuff and I think IETF's model of > standards-making is the right model. I would like to take the ideas of > IETF and influence ISO/IEC JTC 1. I think starting at collaboration > tools would be a good start and so I'd like to hear from someone on > this. There are two broad categories of such tools: workflow and = participation. The Tools Team traditionally focuses on workflow: WG = mailing lists, issue trackers, document update tracking and retrieval, = and a few others. Participation tools (Jabber, meeting broadcasting over = audio, ...) has been done by the Secretariat. Your message above covers = both types of tools. Recently, I have been contracted by the IETF to come up with the = requirements for improving the participation tools, but not the workflow = tools. I'll contact you separately about talking about JTC1 and = participation tools, but you should keep talking to the folks here about = the workflow tools and their applicability / availability to JTC1. --Paul Hoffman From dhc2@dcrocker.net Mon Dec 12 09:40:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CE421F8BE7 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:40:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U4esxnxOc7U5 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E5521F8BE4 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:40:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (adsl-67-127-55-53.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [67.127.55.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBCHeddB030083 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:40:46 -0800 Message-ID: <4EE63C96.3010201@dcrocker.net> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:40:38 -0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Team Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:40:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Automatically tracking changes to pages on the IETF wiki? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:40:48 -0000 > Is there a way to subscribe to a mailing list / feed for all changes to a page on the IETF wiki? I would rather not have to write a scraper script that pulls the page history every few hours and diffs it. I believe the IETF wiki is a large number of independent wikis. If you mean specifically "the" IETF wiki, I'm not sure which one that is. I don't see an indication of a singular wiki on , but do note a: Wikis under Resources. This is a basic point, which is why I'm pursuing it. While it might be nice to have a "give me notices for any changes on any related wiki" I don't think it's available. I think you have to sign up for notices for each wiki that you are interested in. Then there's the question of how to sign up for notification. Trac does support notification. I used to have email notices for the 'outcomes' wiki but am not finding the sub-page on that wiki for subscribing. In searching about track, I did find references to RSS notifications: d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Mon Dec 12 10:03:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2F821F8508 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:03:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.542 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.542 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.057, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4OX-gaCWbBpj for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:03:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D85C21F84F9 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:03:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.20.30.100] (50-0-66-4.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.0.66.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pBCI3PhM036535 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:03:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: <4EE63C96.3010201@dcrocker.net> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:03:23 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <43E32D0F-204C-4EDE-ABE6-636A54C1EF2C@vpnc.org> References: <4EE63C96.3010201@dcrocker.net> To: Tools Team Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Automatically tracking changes to pages on the IETF wiki? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:03:27 -0000 On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Dave CROCKER wrote: >> Is there a way to subscribe to a mailing list / feed for all changes = to a page on the IETF wiki? I would rather not have to write a scraper = script that pulls the page history every few hours and diffs it. >=20 > I believe the IETF wiki is a large number of independent wikis. =20 Really? I thought they were all hosted off of trac.tools.ietf.org or = wiki.tools.ietf.org. Apologies if I was not specific enough. I am asking = about the wikis at trac|wiki.tools.ietf.org. > While it might be nice to have a "give me notices for any changes on = any related wiki" I don't think it's available. I think you have to = sign up for notices for each wiki that you are interested in. That would be lovely. However... > Then there's the question of how to sign up for notification. >=20 > Trac does support notification. I used to have email notices for the = 'outcomes' wiki but am not finding the sub-page on that wiki for = subscribing. >=20 > In searching about track, I did find references to RSS notifications: >=20 > Exactly. That page says "find the small RSS icon" for the page. I don't = see them on any IETF wiki pages. Does that mean that there is no RSS = feeds, or just that we need to know the URL for the link ourselves? If = the latter, what is the recipe? --Paul Hoffman From julian.reschke@gmx.de Mon Dec 12 10:22:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD2B21F8538 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:22:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.758 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.758 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.159, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6NVN0Qb60b6i for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FEC421F84CC for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 Dec 2011 18:22:02 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.140]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp041) with SMTP; 12 Dec 2011 19:22:02 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+UrSULMTKU3aiGP1yNyycY1AB2ijbXuO5ken77z2 5CNJEADnQyR9QZ Message-ID: <4EE64648.2010900@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:22:00 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Hoffman References: <4EE63C96.3010201@dcrocker.net> <43E32D0F-204C-4EDE-ABE6-636A54C1EF2C@vpnc.org> In-Reply-To: <43E32D0F-204C-4EDE-ABE6-636A54C1EF2C@vpnc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Automatically tracking changes to pages on the IETF wiki? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:22:05 -0000 On 2011-12-12 19:03, Paul Hoffman wrote: > ... I think you'll find the RSS feed associated with the Trac timeline... Best regards, Julian From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Mon Dec 12 10:35:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2C721F8AF3 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:35:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.544 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.544 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.055, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GWhVkMl4PtI8 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B272921F8AD8 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.20.30.100] (50-0-66-4.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.0.66.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pBCIZbhf037944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:35:37 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: <4EE64648.2010900@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:35:37 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <4EE63C96.3010201@dcrocker.net> <43E32D0F-204C-4EDE-ABE6-636A54C1EF2C@vpnc.org> <4EE64648.2010900@gmx.de> To: Julian Reschke X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Automatically tracking changes to pages on the IETF wiki? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:35:51 -0000 On Dec 12, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2011-12-12 19:03, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> ... > > I think you'll find the RSS feed associated with the Trac timeline... Ah! Exactly right. Thanks. --Paul Hoffman From dhc2@dcrocker.net Mon Dec 12 10:53:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613A821F846A for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:53:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w-tjozbt45aA for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8086421F8468 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (adsl-67-127-55-53.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [67.127.55.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBCIrdPu031880 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:53:46 -0800 Message-ID: <4EE64DB1.8030808@dcrocker.net> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:53:37 -0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Team Discussion References: <4EE63C96.3010201@dcrocker.net> <43E32D0F-204C-4EDE-ABE6-636A54C1EF2C@vpnc.org> <4EE64648.2010900@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4EE64648.2010900@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:53:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Automatically tracking changes to pages on the IETF wiki? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:53:47 -0000 On 12/12/2011 10:22 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2011-12-12 19:03, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> ... > > I think you'll find the RSS feed associated with the Trac timeline... Might be worth considering making it a bit easier for users to find... d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From housley@vigilsec.com Mon Dec 12 15:23:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A98C21F8ACC for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:23:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.507 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.092, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JwdU9DoZYg3Q for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1651421F85FF for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043489A4799 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:23:21 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WtPrUzbRXlZW for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:23:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (pool-96-231-29-247.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.231.29.247]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEB99A4794 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:23:20 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-28--319875050; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:23:12 -0500 Message-Id: To: Tools Team Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [Tools-discuss] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mckenzie-arpanet-host-host-protocol/ X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:23:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail-28--319875050 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Logged in as an AD, I cannot go to this URL. I get an "Internal Server = Error". This is a document on the Independent stream. Any thoughts? 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Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:40:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EE70F7D.5080302@yaco.es> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:40:29 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Emilio_A=2E_S=E1nchez=22?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050208030104080103070708" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mckenzie-arpanet-host-host-protocol/ X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:40:34 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050208030104080103070708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This seems to be a bug introduced in http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/changeset/3624 when trying to solve another bug. I suggest using the attached patch to solve both problems. Best, El 13/12/11 00:23, Russ Housley escribió: > Logged in as an AD, I cannot go to this URL. I get an "Internal Server Error". This is a document on the Independent stream. Any thoughts? > > Russ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --------------050208030104080103070708 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="person_chairs_patch.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="person_chairs_patch.diff" Index: ietf/ietfworkflows/accounts.py =================================================================== --- ietf/ietfworkflows/accounts.py (revisión: 3763) +++ ietf/ietfworkflows/accounts.py (copia de trabajo) @@ -53,7 +53,7 @@ return True # Check if the person is chair of the related group chairs = streamed.stream.get_chairs_for_document(draft) - if chairs and person in [i.person for i in chairs]: + if chairs and person in chairs: return True # Check if the person is authorized by a delegate system delegates = streamed.stream.get_delegates_for_document(draft) Index: ietf/ietfworkflows/models.py =================================================================== --- ietf/ietfworkflows/models.py (revisión: 3763) +++ ietf/ietfworkflows/models.py (copia de trabajo) @@ -200,11 +200,17 @@ for attr_name in self.group_chair_attribute.split('.'): attr = getattr(obj, attr_name, None) if not attr: - return None + return [] if callable(attr): attr = attr() obj = attr - return attr + persons = [] + for i in attr: + if isinstance(i, PersonOrOrgInfo): + persons.append(i) + elif hasattr(i, 'person'): + persons.append(i.person) + return persons def get_delegates_for_document(self, document): delegates = [] --------------050208030104080103070708-- From henrik@levkowetz.com Tue Dec 13 02:43:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C09821F8770 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:43:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.567 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.567 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.033, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iuPg+bGDVfSJ for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:43:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DB921F8672 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:43:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:56037 helo=brunello.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1RaPp0-00054z-Uh; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:43:00 +0100 Message-ID: <4EE72C2D.1050903@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:42:53 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ Housley References: <4EE70F7D.5080302@yaco.es> In-Reply-To: <4EE70F7D.5080302@yaco.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: housley@vigilsec.com, esanchez@yaco.es, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mckenzie-arpanet-host-host-protocol/ X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:43:16 -0000 On 2011-12-13 09:40 "Emilio A. Sánchez" said: > This seems to be a bug introduced in > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/changeset/3624 when trying to > solve another bug. > > I suggest using the attached patch to solve both problems. The patch has been applied to both the production tracker and the development source. You should be able to get to the URL when logged in as AD now. Best regards, Henrik > Best, > > El 13/12/11 00:23, Russ Housley escribió: >> Logged in as an AD, I cannot go to this URL. I get an "Internal Server Error". This is a document on the Independent stream. Any thoughts? >> >> Russ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From housley@vigilsec.com Tue Dec 13 03:42:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8F921F88AB for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 03:42:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.509 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.509 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.090, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LxWF4Tin+YVF for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 03:42:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [208.254.26.82]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D290C21F8876 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 03:42:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.254.26.81]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4876A9A472C; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:42:15 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([208.254.26.82]) by localhost (ronin.smetech.net [208.254.26.81]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AGeKKzGSBnH1; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.101] (pool-96-231-29-247.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.231.29.247]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545B29A471B; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:42:14 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-32--275541967; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Russ Housley In-Reply-To: <4EE72C2D.1050903@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:42:05 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4EE70F7D.5080302@yaco.es> <4EE72C2D.1050903@levkowetz.com> To: Henrik Levkowetz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mckenzie-arpanet-host-host-protocol/ X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:42:08 -0000 --Apple-Mail-32--275541967 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks for the quick fix. Russ On Dec 13, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >=20 > On 2011-12-13 09:40 "Emilio A. S=E1nchez" said: >> This seems to be a bug introduced in >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/changeset/3624 when trying to >> solve another bug. >>=20 >> I suggest using the attached patch to solve both problems. >=20 > The patch has been applied to both the production tracker and the > development source. You should be able to get to the URL when logged > in as AD now. >=20 >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Henrik >=20 >=20 >> Best, >>=20 >> El 13/12/11 00:23, Russ Housley escribi=F3: >>> Logged in as an AD, I cannot go to this URL. I get an "Internal = Server Error". This is a document on the Independent stream. 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Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dcrocker@bbiw.net References: <4EE63C96.3010201@dcrocker.net> <43E32D0F-204C-4EDE-ABE6-636A54C1EF2C@vpnc.org> <4EE64648.2010900@gmx.de> <4EE64DB1.8030808@dcrocker.net> In-Reply-To: <4EE64DB1.8030808@dcrocker.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net, dhc2@dcrocker.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Automatically tracking changes to pages on the IETF wiki? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:43:07 -0000 On 2011-12-12 19:53 Dave CROCKER said: > > On 12/12/2011 10:22 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: >> On 2011-12-12 19:03, Paul Hoffman wrote: >>> ... >> >> I think you'll find the RSS feed associated with the Trac timeline... > > > Might be worth considering making it a bit easier for users to find... I've added a RSS feed header to the wiki pages, to make regular RSS discovery tools work. This still uses the same functionality which is available from the timeline/ page of each Trac instance; in general that's where you should head for customized RSS feeds from Trac, as Julian already indicated. Best regards, Henrik From dhc2@dcrocker.net Tue Dec 13 06:27:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27D421F8B1B for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:27:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1S3gSLr0IhP0 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:27:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306CF21F8B10 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:27:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (adsl-67-127-55-53.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [67.127.55.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBDERZPS023614 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:27:42 -0800 Message-ID: <4EE760D4.7010004@dcrocker.net> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:27:32 -0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <4EE63C96.3010201@dcrocker.net> <43E32D0F-204C-4EDE-ABE6-636A54C1EF2C@vpnc.org> <4EE64648.2010900@gmx.de> <4EE64DB1.8030808@dcrocker.net> <4EE74839.7050409@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE74839.7050409@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:27:42 -0800 (PST) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Automatically tracking changes to pages on the IETF wiki? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:27:46 -0000 On 12/13/2011 4:42 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > I've added a RSS feed header to the wiki pages, > to make regular RSS discovery tools work. Henrik, Great! I see it on the wg's home page, such as: I suggest also adding it to the wg's wiki base page, such as: d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From henrik@levkowetz.com Tue Dec 13 06:35:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6901821F8B0E for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:35:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.273 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.273 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.273, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_14=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FgM8x96WRM3Z for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1D621F8B0D for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:35:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:58430 helo=brunello.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1RaTRV-0003ss-DP; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:34:57 +0100 Message-ID: <4EE7628C.3050208@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:34:52 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dcrocker@bbiw.net References: <4EE63C96.3010201@dcrocker.net> <43E32D0F-204C-4EDE-ABE6-636A54C1EF2C@vpnc.org> <4EE64648.2010900@gmx.de> <4EE64DB1.8030808@dcrocker.net> <4EE74839.7050409@levkowetz.com> <4EE760D4.7010004@dcrocker.net> In-Reply-To: <4EE760D4.7010004@dcrocker.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net, dhc2@dcrocker.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Automatically tracking changes to pages on the IETF wiki? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:35:23 -0000 Hi Dave, On 2011-12-13 15:27 Dave CROCKER said: > > On 12/13/2011 4:42 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> I've added a RSS feed header to the wiki pages, >> to make regular RSS discovery tools work. > > > Henrik, > > > Great! I see it on the wg's home page, such as: > > _That_ particular icon with rss link has been in place for ages :-) , and provides a feed of new document submissions for the WG; however: > I suggest also adding it to the wg's wiki base page, such as: > > here I can add an icon with a link to a feed for changes to the wiki pages (the same URL as the tag in the header) -- is that what would be most helpful? Or are you thinking of showing the same link as on the status page, giving a feed of document submissions? Best regards, Henrik From dhc2@dcrocker.net Tue Dec 13 07:23:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFF621F8B1E for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:23:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M3xIe9uuNGKh for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:23:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A39F21F8B14 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:23:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (adsl-67-127-55-53.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [67.127.55.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBDFN3QY025108 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:23:11 -0800 Message-ID: <4EE76DD4.9060906@dcrocker.net> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:23:00 -0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz References: <4EE63C96.3010201@dcrocker.net> <43E32D0F-204C-4EDE-ABE6-636A54C1EF2C@vpnc.org> <4EE64648.2010900@gmx.de> <4EE64DB1.8030808@dcrocker.net> <4EE74839.7050409@levkowetz.com> <4EE760D4.7010004@dcrocker.net> <4EE7628C.3050208@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <4EE7628C.3050208@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:23:11 -0800 (PST) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Automatically tracking changes to pages on the IETF wiki? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:23:13 -0000 On 12/13/2011 6:34 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> > > _That_ particular icon with rss link has been in place for ages :-) , > and provides a feed of new document submissions for the WG; however: oh. crap. There's no real way to know that it's focus is that limited, without inspecting the text of the link specification. It's a rather subtle implication of the page it's on -- which by the way is titled "Status Pages" rather than "Documents" or somesuch. All very confusing, even with coffee. Worse, that page is really the home page for the working group. It's not just a documents page. So the existing RSS feed symbol really does need a label. Also, this means that I didn't find the 'changes' RSS link, even when looking for it: >> I suggest also adding it to the wg's wiki base page, such as: >> >> > > here I can add an icon with a link to a feed for changes to the wiki > pages (the same URL as the tag in the header) > -- is that what would be most helpful? Or are you thinking of showing > the same link as on the status page, giving a feed of document submissions? My specific suggestion is that there by a link to /wiki changes/ on the wg home page and on the wg wiki base page. A link to i-d notifications is also fine, but quite separate and clearly needs to be clearly labeled. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From stpeter@stpeter.im Wed Dec 14 13:54:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C8C11E80C5 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:54:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.715 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.715 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.116, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8mPiURb8xTj4 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:54:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE46711E8098 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:54:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from normz.cisco.com (unknown [72.163.0.129]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C76B0423D8 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:02:22 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4EE91B23.4050809@stpeter.im> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:54:43 -0700 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Team Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc X-Forwarded-Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [Tools-discuss] wiki performance X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:54:45 -0000 An anecdote about wiki performance... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [happiana] [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party registrations Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:52:28 +0100 From: Bjoern Hoehrmann To: Peter Saint-Andre CC: Graham Klyne , "happiana@ietf.org" * Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >Let's start the work here: > >http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki > >You can create an account here: > >http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin > >I've created a stub page here: > >http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/MessageHeaderRegistration (I note in passing that the Trac pages there usually take around 15 seconds to load for me, so I basically never use it for anything if it can be avoided, and that's pretty much all the time.) -- Björn Höhrmann · mailto:bjoern@hoehrmann.de · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de Am Badedeich 7 · Telefon: +49(0)160/4415681 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de 25899 Dagebüll · PGP Pub. KeyID: 0xA4357E78 · http://www.websitedev.de/ From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Wed Dec 14 14:22:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0422E11E80AA for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:22:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.548 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.548 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.051, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wAaNGsPL4HpW for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:22:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8994011E809F for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:22:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.20.30.100] (50-0-66-4.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.0.66.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pBEMMIeN052132 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:22:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: <4EE91B23.4050809@stpeter.im> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:22:18 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4EE91B23.4050809@stpeter.im> To: Tools Team Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] wiki performance X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:22:20 -0000 On Dec 14, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > An anecdote about wiki performance... > . . . > (I note in passing that the Trac pages there usually take around 15 > seconds to load for me, so I basically never use it for anything if > it can be avoided, and that's pretty much all the time.) I have seen that consistently myself. It's frustrating, but not deadly, = for me. --Paul Hoffman From henrik@levkowetz.com Thu Dec 15 02:10:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E46C21F85FF for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:10:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.55 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.050, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 097ZQ-StcYgf for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBED21F86A1 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 02:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:58152 helo=brunello.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Rb8Fl-0002jS-Cw; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:09:36 +0100 Message-ID: <4EE9C758.3000201@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:09:28 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <4EE91B23.4050809@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4EE91B23.4050809@stpeter.im> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: stpeter@stpeter.im, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] wiki performance X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:10:21 -0000 Hi Peter, Yes, I know. The machine which is providing the trac service is old and tired. I will try to move this over to a different machine within the next month. Best regards, Henrik On 2011-12-14 22:54 Peter Saint-Andre said: > An anecdote about wiki performance... > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [happiana] [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party registrations > Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:52:28 +0100 > From: Bjoern Hoehrmann > To: Peter Saint-Andre > CC: Graham Klyne, "happiana@ietf.org" > > > * Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> Let's start the work here: >> >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki >> >> You can create an account here: >> >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin >> >> I've created a stub page here: >> >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/MessageHeaderRegistration > > (I note in passing that the Trac pages there usually take around 15 > seconds to load for me, so I basically never use it for anything if > it can be avoided, and that's pretty much all the time.) From rjsparks@nostrum.com Thu Dec 15 12:24:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E83411E80AA for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:24:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qxGIHy8WldOc for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:24:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E777211E809A for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:24:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from unexplicable.local (pool-173-57-95-103.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [173.57.95.103]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pBFKOKiA096666 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:24:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <4EEA5774.1020508@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:24:20 -0600 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <4EEA568E.3090907@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <4EEA568E.3090907@nostrum.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <4EEA568E.3090907@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070105030004020209040307" Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 173.57.95.103 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: [Tools-discuss] Fwd: Proposal to remove three datatracker pages (https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/ann/ind/, /new, and /prev X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:24:22 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070105030004020209040307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Proposal to remove three datatracker pages (https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/ann/ind/, /new, and /prev Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:20:30 -0600 From: Robert Sparks To: ietf@ietf.org There are three pages exposed at the datatracker that have become stale or are producing erroneous information. https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/ann/ind/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/ann/new/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/ann/prev/ Has anyone been using those links? The first link, in particular has not been updated to reflect RFC5742, and is currently showing an incomplete set. All of the information on those pages is available in other locations (at the very least at . Unless someone has been relying on these links, I propose removing them. RjS _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf --------------070105030004020209040307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Subject: Proposal to remove three datatracker pages (https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/ann/ind/, /new, and /prev
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:20:30 -0600
From: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>
To: ietf@ietf.org 


There are three pages exposed at the datatracker that have become stale 
or are producing erroneous information.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/ann/ind/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/ann/new/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/ann/prev/

Has anyone been using those links?

The first link, in particular has not been updated to reflect RFC5742, 
and is currently showing an incomplete set.

All of the information on those pages is available in other locations 
(at the very least at
<http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-announce/current/maillist.html>.

Unless someone has been relying on these links, I propose removing them.

RjS
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--------------070105030004020209040307-- From henrik@levkowetz.com Fri Dec 16 01:25:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF9021F8B16 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 01:25:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.046, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p-fwhf6TGEIj for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 01:25:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFD321F8AE9 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 01:25:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:50458 helo=brunello.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1RbU29-0004nb-GV; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:24:57 +0100 Message-ID: <4EEB0E63.1060806@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:24:51 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Sparks References: <4EEA568E.3090907@nostrum.com> <4EEA5774.1020508@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <4EEA5774.1020508@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rjsparks@nostrum.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Fwd: Proposal to remove three datatracker pages (https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/ann/ind/, /new, and /prev X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:25:32 -0000 I'm not using any of these. Henrik On 2011-12-15 21:24 Robert Sparks said: > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Proposal to remove three datatracker pages > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/ann/ind/, /new, and /prev > Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:20:30 -0600 > From: Robert Sparks > To: ietf@ietf.org > > > > There are three pages exposed at the datatracker that have become stale > or are producing erroneous information. > https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/ann/ind/ > https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/ann/new/ > https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/ann/prev/ > > Has anyone been using those links? > > The first link, in particular has not been updated to reflect RFC5742, > and is currently showing an incomplete set. > > All of the information on those pages is available in other locations > (at the very least at > . > > Unless someone has been relying on these links, I propose removing them. > > RjS > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From henrik@levkowetz.com Fri Dec 16 01:35:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DF121F8A70 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 01:35:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.557 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.557 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.043, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cIOwVgDsjmrX for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 01:35:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7719B21F8A4E for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 01:35:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:50517 helo=brunello.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1RbUC5-00014y-AU; Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:35:11 +0100 Message-ID: <4EEB10CC.4020602@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:35:08 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amy Vezza References: <7DD7576D-9FC9-4B13-829B-0AC2389054A0@amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <7DD7576D-9FC9-4B13-829B-0AC2389054A0@amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: avezza@amsl.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, amorris@amsl.com, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: Alexa Morris , tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Potential Bug in the Datatracker X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:35:26 -0000 Hi Amy, I've stared looking into this, but there are many paths which potentially touch the flag in questions, so it's not trivial to know exactly where to look. One possibility is that some recent changes may have caused this; so it would be good to know (as far as you can tell) if this problem has appeared with one of the most recent releases, or is a long-standing one. Best regards, Henrik On 2011-12-15 23:35 Amy Vezza said: > Hi Henrik, > > On today's IESG Telechat we found a potential bug in the datatracker. > We had three documents that were returning items , but not flagged as > returning items. One I flagged manually last week, and two didn't > get flagged as returning items until the AD mentioned it on the > call. > > Once a document has been on any IESG Teleconference Agenda, it should > be automatically flagged as a returning item when it is placed back > on the agenda for a second (or third or fourth) time. The documents > that were missing the automatic returning item flag are: > > draft-ietf-6man-rpl-option > draft-gundavelli-v6ops-pmipv6-address-reservations > > and the document I had to set the returning flag manually is: > > draft-ietf-l2vpn-arp-mediation > > Can you look into this possible bug for us? From dhc2@dcrocker.net Tue Dec 20 07:31:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3222021F8B0B for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:31:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vQHYhScD1qBX for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2AB21F8B09 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (adsl-67-127-55-53.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [67.127.55.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pBKFV4Ak009088 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:31:10 -0800 Message-ID: <4EF0AA2B.90901@dcrocker.net> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:30:51 -0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Team Discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:31:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Tools-discuss] datatracker search result omissions X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:31:11 -0000 G'day. The datatracker appears to be producing partial results both for RFCs and for expired I-Ds. I did the obvious test of using my own last name and both sets of results were significantly incomplete. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net