From Ted.Lemon@nominum.com Tue Dec 10 09:36:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1992C1ADFAA for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:36:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IPMwjBiu3xtQ for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from exprod7og117.obsmtp.com (exprod7og117.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.6]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB62A1ADF4F for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell-too.nominum.com ([64.89.228.229]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob117.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUqdRFFpA2PChEUApRuuWU9Ui9lTVms0B@postini.com; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:36:20 PST Received: from archivist.nominum.com (archivist.nominum.com [64.89.228.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by shell-too.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F611B82D0 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:36:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.nominum.com (cas-02.win.nominum.com [64.89.228.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by archivist.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8262B190043 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:36:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from vpna-132.vpn.nominum.com (192.168.1.10) by CAS-02.WIN.NOMINUM.COM (192.168.1.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:36:20 -0800 From: Ted Lemon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <4B2B4E38-5F8C-4B09-BC14-58FF6D5A5553@nominum.com> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 12:36:16 -0500 To: "tools-discuss@ietf.org Discussion" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) X-Originating-IP: [192.168.1.10] Subject: [Tools-discuss] Link to the mailman page for mailing lists? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:36:27 -0000 Right now there's no path from the top of any official or unofficial = IETF web page that I can find that leads to the mailman page for a = working group (or non-wg) mailing list. It would be nice if there were = a field for this in the datatracker. It doesn't come up a lot, but = when it does it would be good if it were readily findable. From rjsparks@nostrum.com Tue Dec 10 09:38:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6598E1AE04C for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:38:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.036 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.036 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gbkfmBtgTW6e for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:38:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from shaman.nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4673D1ADF4F for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:38:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-173-71-10-88.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [173.71.10.88]) (authenticated bits=0) by shaman.nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id rBAHcLNA091688 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:38:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <52A7518D.6030403@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:38:21 -0600 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <4B2B4E38-5F8C-4B09-BC14-58FF6D5A5553@nominum.com> In-Reply-To: <4B2B4E38-5F8C-4B09-BC14-58FF6D5A5553@nominum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass (shaman.nostrum.com: 173.71.10.88 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Link to the mailman page for mailing lists? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:38:28 -0000 On 12/10/13 11:36 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: > Right now there's no path from the top of any official or unofficial IETF web page that I can find that leads to the mailman page for a working group (or non-wg) mailing list. It would be nice if there were a field for this in the datatracker. It doesn't come up a lot, but when it does it would be good if it were readily findable. > Hi Ted. Look at under the Mailing List section in the block on the right. Is that what you are looking for? RjS From rjsparks@nostrum.com Tue Dec 10 09:46:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBA61AE00B for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:46:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.036 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.036 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NfWpfSbiw-hj for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:46:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from shaman.nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E9A1AE053 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from unnumerable.local (pool-173-71-10-88.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [173.71.10.88]) (authenticated bits=0) by shaman.nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id rBAHklG3092085 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:46:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <52A75387.30008@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:46:47 -0600 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <4B2B4E38-5F8C-4B09-BC14-58FF6D5A5553@nominum.com> <52A7518D.6030403@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <52A7518D.6030403@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass (shaman.nostrum.com: 173.71.10.88 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Link to the mailman page for mailing lists? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:46:54 -0000 On 12/10/13 11:38 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: > On 12/10/13 11:36 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: >> Right now there's no path from the top of any official or unofficial >> IETF web page that I can find that leads to the mailman page for a >> working group (or non-wg) mailing list. It would be nice if there >> were a field for this in the datatracker. It doesn't come up a lot, >> but when it does it would be good if it were readily findable. >> > Hi Ted. > Look at under the > Mailing List section in the block on the right. > Is that what you are looking for? > Also, for you question about non-wg lists, under the left toolbar in the Working Groups section, the bottom link is to a page listing the non-wg lists (with links to their mailman and archive pages). > RjS From Ted.Lemon@nominum.com Tue Dec 10 09:51:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9F81ADFF4 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:51:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OLCUvtOtoOWz for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:51:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from exprod7og105.obsmtp.com (exprod7og105.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.163]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93C81ADBD1 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:51:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell-too.nominum.com ([64.89.228.229]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob105.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUqdUomoyMrePo2q8DCUVUm/w82KaWUNn@postini.com; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:51:30 PST Received: from archivist.nominum.com (archivist.nominum.com [64.89.228.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by shell-too.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B721B82D0 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:51:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.nominum.com (cas-02.win.nominum.com [64.89.228.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by archivist.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8120A190043; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:51:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from vpna-132.vpn.nominum.com (192.168.1.10) by CAS-02.WIN.NOMINUM.COM (192.168.1.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:51:30 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) From: Ted Lemon In-Reply-To: <52A75387.30008@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 12:51:26 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <9CEF02E8-9667-4C5C-9F66-5118FE17252E@nominum.com> References: <4B2B4E38-5F8C-4B09-BC14-58FF6D5A5553@nominum.com> <52A7518D.6030403@nostrum.com> <52A75387.30008@nostrum.com> To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) X-Originating-IP: [192.168.1.10] Cc: "tools-discuss@ietf.org Discussion" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Link to the mailman page for mailing lists? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:51:37 -0000 On Dec 10, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Robert Sparks = wrote: > Also, for you question about non-wg lists, under the left toolbar in = the Working Groups section, the bottom link is to > a page listing the non-wg lists (with links to their mailman and = archive pages). I'm talking about the mailman page, not the archive page. We already = have the archive page. Ah, I see. The subscribe link can be either an email address or a URL; = I was looking at the softwire charter page, and it lists an email = address. From worley@shell01.TheWorld.com Tue Dec 10 11:16:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDDD1AE03F for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:16:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JHP_C9F68g6b for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:16:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from TheWorld.com (pcls5.std.com [192.74.137.145]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE3A1AE042 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell.TheWorld.com (svani@shell01.theworld.com [192.74.137.71]) by TheWorld.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id rBAJFGBq025944; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:15:18 -0500 Received: from shell01.TheWorld.com (localhost.theworld.com [127.0.0.1]) by shell.TheWorld.com (8.13.6/8.12.8) with ESMTP id rBAJBI42570275; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from worley@localhost) by shell01.TheWorld.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id rBAJBItt571862; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:11:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:11:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <201312101911.rBAJBItt571862@shell01.TheWorld.com> From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: Ted Lemon In-reply-to: <9CEF02E8-9667-4C5C-9F66-5118FE17252E@nominum.com> (ted.lemon@nominum.com) References: <4B2B4E38-5F8C-4B09-BC14-58FF6D5A5553@nominum.com> <52A7518D.6030403@nostrum.com> <52A75387.30008@nostrum.com> <9CEF02E8-9667-4C5C-9F66-5118FE17252E@nominum.com> Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org, rjsparks@nostrum.com Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Link to the mailman page for mailing lists? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 19:16:18 -0000 > From: Ted Lemon > Ah, I see. The subscribe link can be either an email address or a > URL; I was looking at the softwire charter page, and it lists an > email address. I've always thought it was a poor practice to file all that information under the label "Charter" -- who would know to look for it there? It's really "Charter and other miscellaneous information". Dale From Ted.Lemon@nominum.com Tue Dec 10 11:29:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31F21AE04B for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:29:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5g1EtLRvqwka for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:29:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from exprod7og105.obsmtp.com (exprod7og105.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.163]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293221AE01B for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:29:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell-too.nominum.com ([64.89.228.229]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob105.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUqdrk6PwffJKJgPAEmfULgfJMIyo/csV@postini.com; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:29:23 PST Received: from archivist.nominum.com (archivist.nominum.com [64.89.228.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by shell-too.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7C11B8099 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.nominum.com (cas-02.win.nominum.com [64.89.228.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by archivist.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FFF190043; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from vpna-132.vpn.nominum.com (192.168.1.10) by CAS-02.WIN.NOMINUM.COM (192.168.1.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:29:22 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) From: Ted Lemon In-Reply-To: <201312101911.rBAJBItt571862@shell01.TheWorld.com> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:29:18 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <39E589D3-A178-4B00-82EF-E61724B417C0@nominum.com> References: <4B2B4E38-5F8C-4B09-BC14-58FF6D5A5553@nominum.com> <52A7518D.6030403@nostrum.com> <52A75387.30008@nostrum.com> <9CEF02E8-9667-4C5C-9F66-5118FE17252E@nominum.com> <201312101911.rBAJBItt571862@shell01.TheWorld.com> To: "Dale R. Worley" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) X-Originating-IP: [192.168.1.10] Cc: "tools-discuss@ietf.org Discussion" , Robert Sparks Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Link to the mailman page for mailing lists? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 19:29:30 -0000 On Dec 10, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Dale R. Worley wrote: > I've always thought it was a poor practice to file all that > information under the label "Charter" -- who would know to look for it > there? It's really "Charter and other miscellaneous information". Yes, there is definitely a usability issue with respect to how this is = presented... :) From lars@netapp.com Tue Dec 10 11:32:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0973D1AE1BC; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:32:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.903 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.903 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e8R7vZAUWbTy; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:32:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx12.netapp.com (mx12.netapp.com [216.240.18.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7231AE18D; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:32:25 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.93,866,1378882800"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="126823239" Received: from vmwexceht04-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.77.34]) by mx12-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2013 11:32:04 -0800 Received: from SACEXCMBX01-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([169.254.2.244]) by vmwexceht04-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.77.34]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 11:32:03 -0800 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: "ietf-action@ietf.org" , " Discussion" Thread-Topic: error when requesting publication of draft-irtf-dtnrg-dgram-clayer Thread-Index: AQHO9d6Ahez/pt+yPkKdpZhkP8oVNA== Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 19:32:03 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.104.60.117] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4689B713-3199-4D77-AF4E-DBCB8E282558"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Tools-discuss] error when requesting publication of draft-irtf-dtnrg-dgram-clayer X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 19:32:28 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_4689B713-3199-4D77-AF4E-DBCB8E282558 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I tried to request publication for draft-irtf-dtnrg-dgram-clayer. When I = clicked the button, I got: > Posting Approved Draft to RFC Editor Failed >=20 > Sorry, when trying to notify the RFC Editor through HTTP, we hit an = error. >=20 > We have not changed the draft state or sent the announcement yet so if = this is an intermittent error, you can go back and try again. >=20 > The error was: >=20 > Response is not "OK". >=20 > The response from the RFC Editor was: >=20 >

Database error. See error log for details.

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Database error. See error log for details.

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Database error. See error log for details.

> OK Help? Lars --Apple-Mail=_4689B713-3199-4D77-AF4E-DBCB8E282558 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQCVAwUBUqdsMtZcnpRveo1xAQKm+QQAo4cqnLMZvLF4TCQCzyl+QacJzhkm/GQg DWAHelXGsho8IZuQ1E50VnGU5K0yPhWt/c82YKI9t0I9jGsemtv9iD3ZxUJsWrkx s4OGfUkcbTOCLDbmP+uCBOWkH1eaD//T0McF9P1oBlN24InUZYdKMg0d2m8gzsx7 MkNh8mtFiHI= =DR36 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_4689B713-3199-4D77-AF4E-DBCB8E282558-- From henrik@levkowetz.com Tue Dec 10 14:22:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5481AE18C for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:22:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZoB705vFz_li for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:22:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from grenache.tools.ietf.org (grenache.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:2::30]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E813E1AE1BB for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:22:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41975 helo=vigonier.tools.ietf.org ident=henrik) by grenache.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VqVhK-0005bh-53; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:22:34 +0100 Message-ID: <52A79428.2070709@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:22:32 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:17.0) Gecko/20131118 Thunderbird/17.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Eggert, Lars" References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: lars@netapp.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on grenache.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: " Discussion" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] error when requesting publication of draft-irtf-dtnrg-dgram-clayer X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 22:22:46 -0000 Hi Lars, On 2013-12-10 20:32 Eggert, Lars said the following: > Hi, > > I tried to request publication for draft-irtf-dtnrg-dgram-clayer. When I clicked the button, I got: > >> Posting Approved Draft to RFC Editor Failed >> >> Sorry, when trying to notify the RFC Editor through HTTP, we hit an error. >> >> We have not changed the draft state or sent the announcement yet so if this is an intermittent error, you can go back and try again. >> >> The error was: >> >> Response is not "OK". >> >> The response from the RFC Editor was: >> >>

Database error. See error log for details.

>>

Database error. See error log for details.

>>

Database error. See error log for details.

>> OK > > Help? This indicates an error at the RFC-Editor end of the datatracker <--> RFC-Ed state synchronisation link. I'll forward this to the RFC-Editor programmer. Best regards, Henrik From glenams@gmail.com Tue Dec 10 15:54:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFC61AE2BC for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:54:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.278 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.278 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kZGbUXrbOXNa for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:54:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ve0-x22d.google.com (mail-ve0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22d]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CB01AE2BA for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ve0-f173.google.com with SMTP id oz11so5363924veb.4 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:54:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RNudpqiijzlY2YgeoVAAb6mAJGaMGa0HxzPPPJuvzOM=; b=cwwUiAZZEAb+tYxS/Z9R5b7oU2lA3+Hq1Z1oOaJQxe3fyQAiGBhPt5/vAeC1nFVGbi q6u1kLaY10gQL+PwLfSjOib5nOzuJabviu2ZrT4FFw6UjyWemSFXSKAnkiTeCQgDR9yp Nz80ooKuHNkkbB5uH/Zxiq6r/ncDnntdYUsKRLLyVCOaAP7oZhc8cJUhTKObi71PezjD rb97IEszIvCbTQaEcvDY+G6BaTZTvkgF6rPAKVVCf74vBVKDFX1twmqHuv0dVwCaC33b UNHu/Yp4LMKub2fK3v5kDxVb96tsCsylQBs49NPHam6ESB/oASbmKmHMjahLuOb973Yq BvcQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.165.240 with SMTP id zb16mr12508480vdb.19.1386719680291; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:54:40 -0800 (PST) Sender: glenams@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.243.72 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:54:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:54:40 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b43HlRhATHccOPnMHgYFkBBnMcY Message-ID: From: Glen To: "Eggert, Lars" , tools-discuss@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [www.ietf.org/rt #61643] error when requesting publication of draft-irtf-dtnrg-dgram-clayer X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: glen@amsl.com List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:54:47 -0000 Since this was sent both to IETF Action and Tools-Discuss, just letting the Discuss list know that we will handle this one... Lars - We received this ticket. I have referred this to Ryan (our IETF programmer) and Priyanka (our RFC programmer) for debugging. Since Ryan is on the IETF side of things, he will respond to you as soon as they figure out and resolve this. Thanks, Glen On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Eggert, Lars via RT wrote: > > Tue Dec 10 11:32:29 2013: Request 61643 was acted upon. > Transaction: Ticket created by lars@netapp.com > Queue: IETF-Action > Subject: error when requesting publication of draft-irtf-dtnrg-dgram-clayer > Owner: Nobody > Requestors: lars@netapp.com > Status: new > Ticket > > > Hi, > > I tried to request publication for draft-irtf-dtnrg-dgram-clayer. When I clicked the button, I got: > >> Posting Approved Draft to RFC Editor Failed >> >> Sorry, when trying to notify the RFC Editor through HTTP, we hit an error. >> >> We have not changed the draft state or sent the announcement yet so if this is an intermittent error, you can go back and try again. >> >> The error was: >> >> Response is not "OK". >> >> The response from the RFC Editor was: >> >>

Database error. See error log for details.

>>

Database error. See error log for details.

>>

Database error. See error log for details.

>> OK > > Help? > > Lars > From housley@vigilsec.com Thu Dec 19 09:18:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296B81AE16F for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:18:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a1BYV2wLPKdB for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.smetech.net (mail.smetech.net [209.135.209.4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BD91ADF10 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755379A4207 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:18:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DIkzr2-TYnDK for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:18:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.110] (pool-96-255-140-248.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.140.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9249D9A41F6 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:18:20 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:18:09 -0500 Message-Id: To: Tools Team Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Subject: [Tools-discuss] IESG Telechat Agenda X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:18:55 -0000 https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/agenda/ A recent change added "IETF Stream" after each document on the agenda. = These are not helpful in section 2, section 3.1, section 3.2, and = section 3.3, as all of those must be IETF stream documents. However, in = section 3.4, where non-IETF stream documents can appear. There was = already stream label on these entries, like "ISE: Informational". I suggest that the stream label be removed. It is not harmful, but it = is clutter. Russ