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Hi there,

While loving on the new datatracker design, I noticed an anomaly: While the
name of the Area Director is shown for a document that has one assigned,
the document shepherd is only indicated via an email address.  I'm pretty
sure this wasn't the case before.

Have a look here to see what I mean:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/appsawg/documents/

It kind of looks like Barry Leiba's email address is that of Scott
Kitterman in one case.

Is this intentional, or is there a plan to fix it in some future version?

-MSK

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Hi there,<br><br></div>While loving on the =
new datatracker design, I noticed an anomaly: While the name of the Area Di=
rector is shown for a document that has one assigned, the document shepherd=
 is only indicated via an email address.=C2=A0 I&#39;m pretty sure this was=
n&#39;t the case before.<br><br></div><div>Have a look here to see what I m=
ean:<br><br><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/appsawg/documents/">=
https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/appsawg/documents/</a><br><br></div><div>It=
 kind of looks like Barry Leiba&#39;s email address is that of Scott Kitter=
man in one case.<br><br></div>Is this intentional, or is there a plan to fi=
x it in some future version?<br><br></div>-MSK<br></div>

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Thanks Murray -

It would be good to use the "Report a Bug" link at the bottom of each 
page for things like this.

RjS

On 5/5/15 8:15 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> While loving on the new datatracker design, I noticed an anomaly: 
> While the name of the Area Director is shown for a document that has 
> one assigned, the document shepherd is only indicated via an email 
> address.  I'm pretty sure this wasn't the case before.
>
> Have a look here to see what I mean:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/appsawg/documents/
>
> It kind of looks like Barry Leiba's email address is that of Scott 
> Kitterman in one case.
>
> Is this intentional, or is there a plan to fix it in some future version?
>
> -MSK
>
>


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    Thanks Murray -<br>
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    It would be good to use the "Report a Bug" link at the bottom of
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    RjS<br>
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          <div>It kind of looks like Barry Leiba's email address is that
            of Scott Kitterman in one case.<br>
            <br>
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All,

We have regular interim meetings (webex) in the 6TiSCH WG. We maintain
agendas and minutes at http://www.ietf.org/meeting/interim/proceedings.html.

Our WG tools page (e.g. http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6tisch/) has
convenient "agendas" and "minutes" links at the top. But these do not
contain the interim meetings.

Is it possible to add interim meetings to pages such as
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6tisch/agenda and
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6tisch/minutes?

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">All,</span><d=
iv style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style=3D"font-size=
:12.8000001907349px">We have regular interim meetings (webex) in the 6TiSCH=
 WG. We maintain agendas and minutes at=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org=
/meeting/interim/proceedings.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ietf.org/me=
eting/interim/proceedings.html</a>.</div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8000001=
907349px"><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">Our WG tool=
s page (e.g.=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6tisch/" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6tisch/</a>) has convenient=C2=A0&quot;agend=
as&quot; and &quot;minutes&quot; links at the top. But these do not contain=
 the interim meetings.</div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br=
></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">Is it possible to add in=
terim meetings to pages such as=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6t=
isch/agenda" target=3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6tisch/agenda</a>=
=C2=A0and=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6tisch/minutes" target=
=3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6tisch/minutes</a>?</div><div style=3D=
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The ROLL WG has a template document that contains the structure for
current and future applicability statements.  The document represents
the consensus of the WG, but is not intended to be published.

I would like to express that intent, but I can't do that in the "Intended
Status" which insists that I can not leave the value as "(None)", while
still entering a comment.

In particular, I'd like to keep this document out of various cross-area
review queues.

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On 5/11/15 9:43 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:
> The ROLL WG has a template document that contains the structure for
> current and future applicability statements.  The document represents
> the consensus of the WG, but is not intended to be published.
>
> I would like to express that intent, but I can't do that in the "Intended
> Status" which insists that I can not leave the value as "(None)", while
> still entering a comment.
For the moment, I suggest asking your AD to enter the comment for you
(using the add comment button that the AD will see on the history page).
>
> In particular, I'd like to keep this document out of various cross-area
> review queues.
I'm talking to the various review teams, and what I've seen so far indicates
that there's no risk of starting work there just by giving a document an
intended status. The earliest point you would have to worry about is when
you request publication.
>
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
> IETF ROLL WG co-chair.    http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/roll/charter/
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The ROLL WG has a template document that contains the structure for
current and future applicability statements.  The document represents
the consensus of the WG, but is not intended to be published.

I would like to express that intent, but I can't do that in the "Intended
Status" which insists that I can not leave the value as "(None)", while
still entering a comment.</pre>
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    For the moment, I suggest asking your AD to enter the comment for
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In particular, I'd like to keep this document out of various cross-area
review queues.</pre>
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    I'm talking to the various review teams, and what I've seen so far
    indicates<br>
    that there's no risk of starting work there just by giving a
    document an<br>
    intended status. The earliest point you would have to worry about is
    when<br>
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Hiya,

I just modified my discuss text on a doc for the -10 version
but the ballot details page [1] still shows that as being on
version -09 even though the date displayed is correct.

The display is correct however when I look at the list of all
discusses. [2]

Presumably a bit of legacy code somewhere didn't carry over
that fixed up the header text above the discuss/comment text
boxes.

Thanks,
S.


[1]
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-applicability-home-building/ballot/
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Hiya,

I just modified my discuss text on a doc for the -10 version
but the ballot details page [1] still shows that as being on
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The display is correct however when I look at the list of all
discusses. [2]

Presumably a bit of legacy code somewhere didn't carry over
that fixed up the header text above the discuss/comment text
boxes.

Thanks,
S.


[1]
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-applicability-home-building/ballot/
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    Several review teams ensure specific types of review are performed on
    Internet-Drafts as they progress towards becoming RFCs.  The tools
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URL:            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-review-tracker-02.txt">https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sparks-genarea-review-tracker-02.txt</a>
Status:         <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-review-tracker/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sparks-genarea-review-tracker/</a>
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Diff:           <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-sparks-genarea-review-tracker-02">https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-sparks-genarea-review-tracker-02</a>

Abstract:
   Several review teams ensure specific types of review are performed on
   Internet-Drafts as they progress towards becoming RFCs.  The tools
   used by these teams to assign and track reviews would benefit from
   tighter integration to the Datatracker.  This document discusses
   requirements for improving those tools without disrupting current
   work flows.

                                                                                  


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