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G'day.


The IMAP interface to IETF email archives is wonderful.  Very, very 
large kudos for providing this.

However...

The structure of it creates a challenge that is worth discussing:

      Some of these archives are quite large and IMAP interaction with 
them is cumbersome and bloated.

For example, every time I want to use the interface to look at the ietf 
mailing list archive, my system spins for a very long time, building an 
index for -- and, I believe, downloading -- the 110K+ messages in the 
archive.

It's possible that the nature of IMAP leaves no good choices for better 
interaction, but I thought I'd raise the topic to see if others are 
reacting to this and possibly have suggestions.

d/
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Le 2016-03-04 09:39, Dave Crocker a écrit :
> For example, every time I want to use the interface to look at the ietf
> mailing list archive, my system spins for a very long time, building an
> index for -- and, I believe, downloading -- the 110K+ messages in the
> archive.
> 
> It's possible that the nature of IMAP leaves no good choices for better
> interaction, but I thought I'd raise the topic to see if others are
> reacting to this and possibly have suggestions.

Can't you disable local copying? On Thunderbird at least there is such
an option. Anyway, the point is that IMAP does not require the client to
download everything and build a local index, it's an
implementation-specific "feature".

Simon


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On 3/4/2016 8:28 AM, Simon Perreault wrote:
> Can't you disable local copying? On Thunderbird at least there is such
> an option. Anyway, the point is that IMAP does not require the client to
> download everything and build a local index, it's an
> implementation-specific "feature".


First, a common default is to download an entire copy.

Second is that it at least has to download the index, and IMAP is 
transaction-heavy.

This makes at least startup with a large folder expensive in time and 
wasteful in storage.

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On 4 Mar 2016, at 11:28, Simon Perreault wrote:

> Le 2016-03-04 09:39, Dave Crocker a Ã©crit :
>> For example, every time I want to use the interface to look at the 
>> ietf
>> mailing list archive, my system spins for a very long time, building 
>> an
>> index for -- and, I believe, downloading -- the 110K+ messages in the
>> archive.
>>
>> It's possible that the nature of IMAP leaves no good choices for 
>> better
>> interaction, but I thought I'd raise the topic to see if others are
>> reacting to this and possibly have suggestions.
>
> Can't you disable local copying? On Thunderbird at least there is such
> an option. Anyway, the point is that IMAP does not require the client 
> to
> download everything and build a local index, it's an
> implementation-specific "feature".

good point. While not wanting to start discussion on specific IMAP 
implementations, Apple Mail is not really good at large folders. This is 
a reason that I moved to another client.  Dave, if you have Apple Mail, 
consider testing Thunderbird or another client, you may see a big 
difference.

Marc.


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On 3/4/2016 8:56 AM, Marc Blanchet wrote:
> Dave, if you have Apple Mail, consider testing Thunderbird or another
> client, you may see a big difference.


Should have mentioned that I already use Thunderbird.  My concerns are 
based on that usage.

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> good point. While not wanting to start discussion on specific IMAP =
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a reason that I moved to another client.  Dave, if you have Apple Mail, =
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Simon Perreault <sperreault@jive.com> wrote:
    > Le 2016-03-04 09:39, Dave Crocker a =C3=A9crit :
    >> For example, every time I want to use the interface to look at the
    >> ietf mailing list archive, my system spins for a very long time,
    >> building an index for -- and, I believe, downloading -- the 110K+
    >> messages in the archive.
    >>
    >> It's possible that the nature of IMAP leaves no good choices for
    >> better interaction, but I thought I'd raise the topic to see if othe=
rs
    >> are reacting to this and possibly have suggestions.

    > Can't you disable local copying? On Thunderbird at least there is such
    > an option. Anyway, the point is that IMAP does not require the client
    > to download everything and build a local index, it's an
    > implementation-specific "feature".

I have the same problem as Dave, using Thunderbird (icedove).

I haven't found "disable local copying" can you tell me where that is?

I already noted that one should pick a local folder as the Sent folder.

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Simon Perreault <sperreault@jive.com> wrote:
    > Can't you disable local copying? On Thunderbird at least there is such
    > an option. Anyway, the point is that IMAP does not require the client

Under the account settings/preferences, under Synchronization&Storage,
I found "Keep message for this account on this computer" and it was checked,
and I unchecked it.
Do you think that's it?

There is also an option to sync only some number of days.

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Le 2016-03-04 13:59, Michael Richardson a écrit :
> Under the account settings/preferences, under Synchronization&Storage,
> I found "Keep message for this account on this computer" and it was checked,
> and I unchecked it.
> Do you think that's it?

Yes, that's exactly it. Unchecking doesn't delete the cache AFAICT, you
have to re-create the account for that to happen.

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On 3/4/2016 10:57 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:
> I haven't found "disable local copying" can you tell me where that is?

      Tools > Account Settings > [account] >
         Synchronization & Storage > Advanced


Turn off all of the ietf ones.

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By way of trying to make a specific suggestion to deal with the specific 
issue of very large archives, what about:

    For any archive that is active and has messages dating back for more 
than a year: Also supply a "Latest 12 months" copy.


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Anyone else having issues?

#=EE=82=B0 svn up
Updating '.':
svn: E170013: Unable to connect to a repository at URL =
'http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/group/irtf/www'
svn: E120108: Error running context: The server unexpectedly closed the =
connection.

# =EE=82=B0 wget http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/group/irtf/www
--2016-03-08 10:40:52--  http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/group/irtf/www
Resolving svn.tools.ietf.org... 2001:1890:123a::1:2a, 64.170.98.42
Connecting to svn.tools.ietf.org|2001:1890:123a::1:2a|:80... failed: =
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Connecting to svn.tools.ietf.org|64.170.98.42|:80... failed: Connection =
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Lars

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May be unrelated, but I get gateway timeouts and lovely cloudflare 522
errors on most things IETF right now.

GrÃ¼ÃŸe, Carsten


Eggert, Lars wrote:
> Anyone else having issues?
> 
> #î‚° svn up
> Updating '.':
> svn: E170013: Unable to connect to a repository at URL 'http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/group/irtf/www'
> svn: E120108: Error running context: The server unexpectedly closed the connection.
> 
> # î‚° wget http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/group/irtf/www
> --2016-03-08 10:40:52--  http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/group/irtf/www
> Resolving svn.tools.ietf.org... 2001:1890:123a::1:2a, 64.170.98.42
> Connecting to svn.tools.ietf.org|2001:1890:123a::1:2a|:80... failed: Connection refused.
> Connecting to svn.tools.ietf.org|64.170.98.42|:80... failed: Connection refused.
> 
> Lars
> 


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On 2016-03-08 10:42, Eggert, Lars wrote:
> Anyone else having issues?
>
> #î‚° svn up
> Updating '.':
> svn: E170013: Unable to connect to a repository at URL 'http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/group/irtf/www'
> svn: E120108: Error running context: The server unexpectedly closed the connection.
>
> # î‚° wget http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/group/irtf/www
> --2016-03-08 10:40:52--  http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/group/irtf/www
> Resolving svn.tools.ietf.org... 2001:1890:123a::1:2a, 64.170.98.42
> Connecting to svn.tools.ietf.org|2001:1890:123a::1:2a|:80... failed: Connection refused.
> Connecting to svn.tools.ietf.org|64.170.98.42|:80... failed: Connection refused.
>
> Lars

Same here.

Best regards, Julian (Mail to both webmaster and Henrik sent)


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Hi,

The servers themselves haven't been down; and I can't repeat the
observation below now; also, my smokeping checks against each of the
tools servers show no breaks from here (Stockholm).

I thinking this could have been an issue with the DNS delegation
of tools from ietf.org, related to the ietf server changeover issues
we've had, or possibly some temporary network issue which has hit
some people, but not everyone.  Are anybody still seeing issues?

Best regards,

	Henrik


On 2016-03-08 13:09, Julian Reschke wrote:
> On 2016-03-08 10:42, Eggert, Lars wrote:
>> Anyone else having issues?
>>
>> #=C3=AE=E2=80=9A=C2=B0 svn up
>> Updating '.':
>> svn: E170013: Unable to connect to a repository at URL 'http://svn.too=
ls.ietf.org/svn/group/irtf/www'
>> svn: E120108: Error running context: The server unexpectedly closed th=
e connection.
>>
>> # =C3=AE=E2=80=9A=C2=B0 wget http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/group/irtf/=
www
>> --2016-03-08 10:40:52--  http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/group/irtf/www
>> Resolving svn.tools.ietf.org... 2001:1890:123a::1:2a, 64.170.98.42
>> Connecting to svn.tools.ietf.org|2001:1890:123a::1:2a|:80... failed: C=
onnection refused.
>> Connecting to svn.tools.ietf.org|64.170.98.42|:80... failed: Connectio=
n refused.
>>
>> Lars
>=20
> Same here.
>=20
> Best regards, Julian (Mail to both webmaster and Henrik sent)
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Hi Henrik,

I see xml2rfc.ietf.org responding now, which it was not doing before.

During the time it was unresponsive to http requests, I was able to ping =
it, and dig resolved properly (over IPv4 - my ISP doesn't comprehend =
IPv6).

For what it's worth.  It is, of course, up for me now.

Matt


> On Mar 8, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> The servers themselves haven't been down; and I can't repeat the
> observation below now; also, my smokeping checks against each of the
> tools servers show no breaks from here (Stockholm).
>=20
> I thinking this could have been an issue with the DNS delegation
> of tools from ietf.org, related to the ietf server changeover issues
> we've had, or possibly some temporary network issue which has hit
> some people, but not everyone.  Are anybody still seeing issues?
>=20
> Best regards,
>=20
> 	Henrik
>=20
>=20
> On 2016-03-08 13:09, Julian Reschke wrote:
>> On 2016-03-08 10:42, Eggert, Lars wrote:
>>> Anyone else having issues?
>>>=20
>>> #=C3=AE=E2=80=9A=C2=B0 svn up
>>> Updating '.':
>>> svn: E170013: Unable to connect to a repository at URL =
'http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/group/irtf/www'
>>> svn: E120108: Error running context: The server unexpectedly closed =
the connection.
>>>=20
>>> # =C3=AE=E2=80=9A=C2=B0 wget =
http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/group/irtf/www
>>> --2016-03-08 10:40:52--  =
http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/group/irtf/www
>>> Resolving svn.tools.ietf.org... 2001:1890:123a::1:2a, 64.170.98.42
>>> Connecting to svn.tools.ietf.org|2001:1890:123a::1:2a|:80... failed: =
Connection refused.
>>> Connecting to svn.tools.ietf.org|64.170.98.42|:80... failed: =
Connection refused.
>>>=20
>>> Lars
>>=20
>> Same here.
>>=20
>> Best regards, Julian (Mail to both webmaster and Henrik sent)
>>=20
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> --=20
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Works for me now.

(I-D lookup is still slow, but that is not a change.)

GrÃ¼ÃŸe, Carsten


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So was this a DNS TTL non-expiry issue?

   Brian
On 09/03/2016 07:51, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> Works for me now.
>=20
> (I-D lookup is still slow, but that is not a change.)
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> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
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> Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>> Are anybody still seeing issues?
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On 2016-03-08, at 19:51, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
> Works for me now.

+1

However, I still get these messages for some slow-loading datatracker =
URLS: "Gateway Timeout: The gateway did not receive a timely response =
from the upstream server or application."

For example:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/requests
https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/

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I am trying to do the secdir area review team assignments, but the
bind/named in the gamay has died, and the machine does not know how to
resolve names like datatracker.ietf.org, which means the review tool
cannot fetch iesg agenda etc files.

Any hope of getting the bind/named restarted on the machine, so I can
do my assignments:

gamay (12:00) ~>dig datatracker.ietf.org

; <<>> DiG 9.6.1-P1 <<>> datatracker.ietf.org
;; global options: +cmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[2]    7540 exit 9     dig datatracker.ietf.org
gamay (13:05) ~>
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Hi Tero,

On 2016-03-10 14:31, Tero Kivinen wrote:
> I am trying to do the secdir area review team assignments, but the
> bind/named in the gamay has died, and the machine does not know how to
> resolve names like datatracker.ietf.org, which means the review tool
> cannot fetch iesg agenda etc files.

Ugh!  Bind restarted.

Sorry for the delay; in bed with a cold.

Will you let me know if this fixes the issue, please?


Best regards,

	Henrik


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Henrik Levkowetz writes:
> On 2016-03-10 14:31, Tero Kivinen wrote:
> > I am trying to do the secdir area review team assignments, but the
> > bind/named in the gamay has died, and the machine does not know how to
> > resolve names like datatracker.ietf.org, which means the review tool
> > cannot fetch iesg agenda etc files.
> 
> Ugh!  Bind restarted.
> 
> Sorry for the delay; in bed with a cold.
> 
> Will you let me know if this fixes the issue, please?

Yep, fixed the issue, did my assignments now. Thanks.

Btw, I think bind have had several denial of service bugs lately (last
one yesterday or something), is the tools.ietf.org machine updated
with the latest versions?
-- 
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Hi Tero,

On 2016-03-10 20:11, Tero Kivinen wrote:
> Henrik Levkowetz writes:
>> On 2016-03-10 14:31, Tero Kivinen wrote:
>> > I am trying to do the secdir area review team assignments, but the
>> > bind/named in the gamay has died, and the machine does not know how =
to
>> > resolve names like datatracker.ietf.org, which means the review tool=

>> > cannot fetch iesg agenda etc files.
>>=20
>> Ugh!  Bind restarted.
>>=20
>> Sorry for the delay; in bed with a cold.
>>=20
>> Will you let me know if this fixes the issue, please?
>=20
> Yep, fixed the issue, did my assignments now. Thanks.
>=20
> Btw, I think bind have had several denial of service bugs lately (last
> one yesterday or something), is the tools.ietf.org machine updated
> with the latest versions?

Gamay wasn't when bind died on us, but it is now.


Best regards,

	Henrik



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The API to IETF data is still failing, just like it was a week ago. What =
is the plan for getting this fixed?

104:fred@irp-lnx1% date;curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dwg'
Mon Mar 14 07:56:14 PDT 2016
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
<html><head>
<title>504 Gateway Timeout</title>
</head><body>
<h1>Gateway Timeout</h1>
<p>The gateway did not receive a timely response
from the upstream server or application.</p>
</body></html>


> On Mar 10, 2016, at 1:06 PM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred@cisco.com> wrote:
>=20
> Would it help if I sent my script, perhaps? See attached. My model =
command is:
>=20
> perl -w json-cisco-work.pl --wg --individual --debug test current > =
cisco-drafts.txt
>=20
> You will need to change one access, which seeks to read =
http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions; you can't get to it =
from outside Cisco. I have attached it as a file.
>=20
> The debug option has it say what it is trying to read, giving you the =
option of repeating the access. In the output following, you will notice =
that it correctly accessed
>=20
> "current" is a list of active internet drafts, derived from =
1id-index.txt.
>=20
> I ran the script twice, and got different results - something that has =
been an issue all through this. It seems to be able to correctly access =
a random number of json files, and then has some issue (in this case, =
"404 no such file", in other cases a gateway failure or an internal =
error) on which it chokes.
>=20
> Note that this all worked until recently. This is not new code.
>=20
> 119:fred@irp-lnx1% !nice
> nice csh /users/fred/WWW/json/new-work.sh 2015-10-20 2015-11-01 =
2016-03-27 November-March-2016
> accessing http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions
> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-rfceditor' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ise' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-iesg' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dietf' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Darea' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dwg' 2> /dev/null
> malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, string or atom, =
at character offset 0 ["<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLI..."] at =
json-cisco-new-work.pl line 171
> accessing http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions
> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-rfceditor' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ise' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-iesg' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dietf' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Darea' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dwg' 2> /dev/null
> malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, string or atom, =
at character offset 0 ["<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLI..."] at =
json-cisco-new-work.pl line 171
> 120:fred@irp-lnx1% date;curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dwg'
> Thu Mar 10 12:23:27 PST 2016
>=20
> <!DOCTYPE html>
>=20
>=20
>=20
> <html lang=3D"en">
>  <head>
>    <meta charset=3D"utf-8">
>    <meta http-equiv=3D"X-UA-Compatible" content=3D"IE=3Dedge">
>    <title>404 Not Found</title>
>    <meta name=3D"viewport" content=3D"width=3Ddevice-width, =
initial-scale=3D1">
>=20
>    <link =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.16.0/ptmono/stylesheet.css" =
rel=3D'stylesheet' type=3D'text/css'>
>    <link =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.16.0/ptsans/stylesheet.css" =
rel=3D'stylesheet' type=3D'text/css'>
>    <link =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.16.0/ptserif/stylesheet.css" =
rel=3D'stylesheet' type=3D'text/css'>
>=20
> ...
>=20
>=20
>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Matt Larson via RT =
<ietf-action@ietf.org> wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi Fred,
>>=20
>> We've done some further tuning, and believe that this is resolved. =
Please let
>> me know if you have any further issues.
>>=20
>> Matt
>>=20
>> On Thu Mar 10 09:44:29 2016, fred@cisco.com wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 5:21 AM, Matt Larson via RT <ietf-
>>> action@ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>=20
>>>> I believe this has stabilized now that the server move is =
completed.
>>> I did some
>>>> testing and have been able to consistently pull that URL, along =
with
>>> a sampling
>>>> of the others.
>>>>=20
>>>> I am going to resolve out this ticket, but please let us know if
>>> there are any
>>>> further issues. Replying to this email will re-open the ticket.
>>>>=20
>>>> Matt
>>>=20
>>> 105:fred@irp-lnx1% nice perl -w /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-
>>> work.pl --wg --individual --debug test /users/fred/draft/.current >
>>> /users/fred/WWW/json/cisco-drafts.txt
>>> accessing http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions
>>> accessing curl
>>>=20
>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>> rfceditor' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl
>>>=20
>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>> stream-ise' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl
>>>=20
>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>> iesg' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl
>>>=20
>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>> stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl
>>>=20
>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dietf'
>>> 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl
>>>=20
>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Darea'
>>> 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl
>>>=20
>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>>> 2> /dev/null
>>> malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, string or =
atom,
>>> at character offset 0 ["<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLI..."] at
>>> /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 177
>>> 106:fred@irp-lnx1% date;curl
>>>=20
>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>>> Thu Mar 10 09:43:38 PST 2016
>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
>>> <html><head>
>>> <title>504 Gateway Timeout</title>
>>> </head><body>
>>> <h1>Gateway Timeout</h1>
>>> <p>The gateway did not receive a timely response
>>> from the upstream server or application.</p>
>>> </body></html>
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> On Tue Mar 08 22:16:23 2016, fred@cisco.com wrote:
>>>>> Over the past few days (at least, I'm not sure when it started
>>>>> happening) I am randomly getting errors that look like this. Often
>>>>> several - tens or hundreds - of transactions will work and then =
one
>>>>> fail.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Suggestions?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> 144:fred@irp-lnx1% curl
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
>>>>> <html><head>
>>>>> <title>500 Internal Server Error</title>
>>>>> </head><body>
>>>>> <h1>Internal Server Error</h1>
>>>>> <p>The server encountered an internal error or
>>>>> misconfiguration and was unable to complete
>>>>> your request.</p>
>>>>> <p>Please contact the server administrator at
>>>>> ietf-action@ietf.org to inform them of the time this error
>>> occurred,
>>>>> and the actions you performed just before this error.</p>
>>>>> <p>More information about this error may be available
>>>>> in the server error log.</p>
>>>>> <p>Additionally, a 403 Forbidden
>>>>> error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to
>>> handle
>>>>> the request.</p>
>>>>> </body></html>
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> My models, in case this is relevant:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> 145:fred@irp-lnx1% fgrep datatracker.ietf.org
>>>>> /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl
>>>>> "curl
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>> stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>> "curl
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>> iesg' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>> "curl
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>> rfceditor' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>> $curl_ise_rev =3D "curl
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>> stream-ise' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>> "curl
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/\?format=3Djson&limit=3D0=
&type__slug__in=3D%s'
>>>>> 2> /dev/null";
>>>>> my $curl =3D "curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org%s?format=3Djson' =
2>
>>>>> /dev/null";
>>>>> "curl
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/\?format=3Djson\&name__c=
ontains=3D%s\&limit=3D0'
>>>>> 2> /dev/null";
>>>>> "curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org%s\?format=3Djson' 2>
>>>>> /dev/null";
>=20
> <json-cisco-work.pl><current><cisco_exceptions>


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I don't think I have seen this before:

The first author of draft-ietf-aqm-fq-codel has a very long, 
double-barrelled surname, such that there isn't enough space for
"Hoeiland-Joergensen, et al" in the left hand part of the footer and it 
collides with "Expires..."
The footer of the upcoming -06 version (not in the repository yet) ends 
up with:

Hoeiland-Joergensen, etExpires September 17, 2016              [Page 15]

I'll record it in the tickets for the record.

Regards,
Elwyn


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Hi Fred,

You may already have seen the blurb for the latest datatracker release,
but in case not, I've introduced some caching which should reduce the
time it takes to produce REST API responses:

   https://datatracker.ietf.org/release/6.17.0/

It turns out that the API framework we are using has a weakness in how
it deals with related objects, and this caused a doubling (approximately)=

of the response time for the groups query, even if the new related object=
s
were 2 relationships away.  The caching I've coded up should deal with th=
is,
and my tests indicate an improvement with about a factor 4, or a factor 2=

better than before 6.16.0.

If, however, things still aren't working out for you, please let Glen,
Robert and me know.


Best regards,

	Henrik


On 2016-03-14 15:59, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
> The API to IETF data is still failing, just like it was a week ago. Wha=
t is the plan for getting this fixed?
>=20
> 104:fred@irp-lnx1% date;curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group=
/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dwg'
> Mon Mar 14 07:56:14 PDT 2016
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
> <html><head>
> <title>504 Gateway Timeout</title>
> </head><body>
> <h1>Gateway Timeout</h1>
> <p>The gateway did not receive a timely response
> from the upstream server or application.</p>
> </body></html>
>=20
>=20
>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 1:06 PM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred@cisco.com> wrote:=

>>=20
>> Would it help if I sent my script, perhaps? See attached. My model com=
mand is:
>>=20
>> perl -w json-cisco-work.pl --wg --individual --debug test current > ci=
sco-drafts.txt
>>=20
>> You will need to change one access, which seeks to read http://wwwin-p=
eople.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions; you can't get to it from outside C=
isco. I have attached it as a file.
>>=20
>> The debug option has it say what it is trying to read, giving you the =
option of repeating the access. In the output following, you will notice =
that it correctly accessed
>>=20
>> "current" is a list of active internet drafts, derived from 1id-index.=
txt.
>>=20
>> I ran the script twice, and got different results - something that has=
 been an issue all through this. It seems to be able to correctly access =
a random number of json files, and then has some issue (in this case, "40=
4 no such file", in other cases a gateway failure or an internal error) o=
n which it chokes.
>>=20
>> Note that this all worked until recently. This is not new code.
>>=20
>> 119:fred@irp-lnx1% !nice
>> nice csh /users/fred/WWW/json/new-work.sh 2015-10-20 2015-11-01 2016-0=
3-27 November-March-2016
>> accessing http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions
>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3D=
json&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-rfceditor' 2> /dev/null
>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3D=
json&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ise' 2> /dev/null
>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3D=
json&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-iesg' 2> /dev/null
>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3D=
json&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null
>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?forma=
t=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dietf' 2> /dev/null
>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?forma=
t=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Darea' 2> /dev/null
>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?forma=
t=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dwg' 2> /dev/null
>> malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, string or atom, =
at character offset 0 ["<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLI..."] at json-cisco-new-work.=
pl line 171
>> accessing http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions
>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3D=
json&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-rfceditor' 2> /dev/null
>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3D=
json&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ise' 2> /dev/null
>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3D=
json&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-iesg' 2> /dev/null
>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3D=
json&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null
>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?forma=
t=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dietf' 2> /dev/null
>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?forma=
t=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Darea' 2> /dev/null
>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?forma=
t=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dwg' 2> /dev/null
>> malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, string or atom, =
at character offset 0 ["<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLI..."] at json-cisco-new-work.=
pl line 171
>> 120:fred@irp-lnx1% date;curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/grou=
p/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>> Thu Mar 10 12:23:27 PST 2016
>>=20
>> <!DOCTYPE html>
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> <html lang=3D"en">
>>  <head>
>>    <meta charset=3D"utf-8">
>>    <meta http-equiv=3D"X-UA-Compatible" content=3D"IE=3Dedge">
>>    <title>404 Not Found</title>
>>    <meta name=3D"viewport" content=3D"width=3Ddevice-width, initial-sc=
ale=3D1">
>>=20
>>    <link href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.16.0/ptmono/stylesheet.=
css" rel=3D'stylesheet' type=3D'text/css'>
>>    <link href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.16.0/ptsans/stylesheet.=
css" rel=3D'stylesheet' type=3D'text/css'>
>>    <link href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.16.0/ptserif/stylesheet=
=2Ecss" rel=3D'stylesheet' type=3D'text/css'>
>>=20
>> ...
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Matt Larson via RT <ietf-action@ietf.or=
g> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Hi Fred,
>>>=20
>>> We've done some further tuning, and believe that this is resolved. Pl=
ease let
>>> me know if you have any further issues.
>>>=20
>>> Matt
>>>=20
>>> On Thu Mar 10 09:44:29 2016, fred@cisco.com wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 5:21 AM, Matt Larson via RT <ietf-
>>>> action@ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I believe this has stabilized now that the server move is completed=
=2E
>>>> I did some
>>>>> testing and have been able to consistently pull that URL, along wit=
h
>>>> a sampling
>>>>> of the others.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I am going to resolve out this ticket, but please let us know if
>>>> there are any
>>>>> further issues. Replying to this email will re-open the ticket.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Matt
>>>>=20
>>>> 105:fred@irp-lnx1% nice perl -w /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-
>>>> work.pl --wg --individual --debug test /users/fred/draft/.current >
>>>> /users/fred/WWW/json/cisco-drafts.txt
>>>> accessing http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions
>>>> accessing curl
>>>>=20
>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D=
0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>> rfceditor' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl
>>>>=20
>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D=
0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>> stream-ise' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl
>>>>=20
>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D=
0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>> iesg' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl
>>>>=20
>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D=
0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>> stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl
>>>>=20
>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dietf'
>>>> 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl
>>>>=20
>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Darea'
>>>> 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl
>>>>=20
>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>>>> 2> /dev/null
>>>> malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, string or atom=
,
>>>> at character offset 0 ["<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLI..."] at
>>>> /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 177
>>>> 106:fred@irp-lnx1% date;curl
>>>>=20
>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>>>> Thu Mar 10 09:43:38 PST 2016
>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
>>>> <html><head>
>>>> <title>504 Gateway Timeout</title>
>>>> </head><body>
>>>> <h1>Gateway Timeout</h1>
>>>> <p>The gateway did not receive a timely response
>>>> from the upstream server or application.</p>
>>>> </body></html>
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Tue Mar 08 22:16:23 2016, fred@cisco.com wrote:
>>>>>> Over the past few days (at least, I'm not sure when it started
>>>>>> happening) I am randomly getting errors that look like this. Often=

>>>>>> several - tens or hundreds - of transactions will work and then on=
e
>>>>>> fail.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Suggestions?
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> 144:fred@irp-lnx1% curl
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>>>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
>>>>>> <html><head>
>>>>>> <title>500 Internal Server Error</title>
>>>>>> </head><body>
>>>>>> <h1>Internal Server Error</h1>
>>>>>> <p>The server encountered an internal error or
>>>>>> misconfiguration and was unable to complete
>>>>>> your request.</p>
>>>>>> <p>Please contact the server administrator at
>>>>>> ietf-action@ietf.org to inform them of the time this error
>>>> occurred,
>>>>>> and the actions you performed just before this error.</p>
>>>>>> <p>More information about this error may be available
>>>>>> in the server error log.</p>
>>>>>> <p>Additionally, a 403 Forbidden
>>>>>> error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to
>>>> handle
>>>>>> the request.</p>
>>>>>> </body></html>
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> My models, in case this is relevant:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> 145:fred@irp-lnx1% fgrep datatracker.ietf.org
>>>>>> /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl
>>>>>> "curl
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D=
0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>> stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>> "curl
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D=
0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>> iesg' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>> "curl
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D=
0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>> rfceditor' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>> $curl_ise_rev =3D "curl
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D=
0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>> stream-ise' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>> "curl
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/\?format=3Djson&limi=
t=3D0&type__slug__in=3D%s'
>>>>>> 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>> my $curl =3D "curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org%s?format=3Djson' =
2>
>>>>>> /dev/null";
>>>>>> "curl
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/\?format=3Djson\&na=
me__contains=3D%s\&limit=3D0'
>>>>>> 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>> "curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org%s\?format=3Djson' 2>
>>>>>> /dev/null";
>>=20
>> <json-cisco-work.pl><current><cisco_exceptions>
>=20
>=20
>=20


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Thanks.

Copying Glen, who has been working on this. Last week, there were a =
number of more-or-less-random failures, including server errors, =
gateways that were unreachable, and files not found. In the past couple =
of days, Glen has taken a look at it, and appears to have mostly =
resolved the issues. I have one remaining issue, which I'm tracking down =
as we speak so I can describe it to Glen. It goes something like this.

I have two scripts that I'm looking at. One wonders what drafts Cisco =
employees have in the pipeline (so we can inform various communities =
inside the company); the other wonders what subset of those have been =
updated since the past IETF meeting and are specifically working group =
draft, or are specifically individual submissions (because we get =
asked). Note that one of the two seems to invariably work, and is =
accessing essentially the same data. The script that asks about the more =
general set of drafts seems to mostly work, downloading state =
information etc and then moving on to downloading relevant draft =
metadata (I'd download the entire set of drafts in one swell foop, but =
there are more than 1000 drafts at any given time). I see this:

First, quite a number of perfectly normal and successful accesses (I'm =
showing you my debug output, which says what command I'm executing):

perl -w /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl --wg --debug test =
--individual /users/fred/draft/.current > =
/users/fred/WWW/json/cisco-drafts.txt
accessing http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-rfceditor' 2> /dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ise' 2> /dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-iesg' 2> /dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dietf' 2> /dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Darea' 2> /dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dwg' 2> /dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dirtf' 2> /dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Drg' 2> /dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dag' 2> /dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Diab' 2> /dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Ddir' 2> /dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=3Djson&name__con=
tains=3Ddraft-ietf-insipid-logme-reqs&limit=3D0' 2> /dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/1/?format=3Djson' 2> =
/dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=3Djson&name__con=
tains=3Ddraft-li-pce-tunnel-segment&limit=3D0' 2> /dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=3Djson&name__con=
tains=3Ddraft-urien-core-racs&limit=3D0' 2> /dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=3Djson&name__con=
tains=3Ddraft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-multi-stream-optimisation&limit=3D0' 2> =
/dev/null
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=3Djson&name__con=
tains=3Ddraft-ietf-tcpm-accurate-ecn&limit=3D0' 2> /dev/null

I see probably 500 or more accesses for internet draft metadata similar =
to that last line, but for various drafts. And then I see:

accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=3Djson&name__con=
tains=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-xmss-hash-based-signatures&limit=3D0' 2> =
/dev/null
JSON text must be an object or array (but found number, string, true, =
false or null, use allow_nonref to allow this) at =
/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 256

Note that this doesn't happen on any specific draft, just on some draft =
whose metadata I access. When I get curious about what it accessed, I =
get:

121:fred@irp-lnx1% curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=3Djson&name__con=
tains=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-xmss-hash-based-signatures&limit=3D0'
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  =
Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  =
Speed
{"meta": {"limit": 1000, "next": null, "offset": 0, "previous": null, =
"total_count": 1}, "objects": [{"abstract": "   This note describes the =
eXtended Merkle Signature Scheme (XMSS), a\n   hash-based digital =
signature system.  It follows existing\n   descriptions in scientific =
literature.  The note specifies the WOTS+\n   one-time signature scheme, =
a single-tree (XMSS) and a multi-tree\n   variant (XMSS^MT) of XMSS.  =
Both variants use WOTS+ as a main\n   building block.  XMSS provides =
cryptographic digital signatures\n   without relying on the conjectured =
hardness of mathematical problems.\n   Instead, it is proven that it =
only relies on the properties of\n   cryptographic hash functions.  XMSS =
provides strong security\n   guarantees and, besides some special =
instantiations, is even secure\n   when the collision resistance of the =
underlying hash function is\n   broken.  It is suitable for compact =
implementations, relatively\n   simple to implement, and naturally =
resists side-channel attacks.\n   Unlike most o105  1997  105  1997    0 =
    0    142      0  0:00:14  0:00:13  0:00:01   410
ther signature systems, hash-based signatures withstand\n   attacks =
using quantum computers.\n", "ad": null, "authors": =
["/api/v1/person/email/dbutin%40cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/", =
"/api/v1/person/email/stefan-lukas_gazdag%40genua.eu/", =
"/api/v1/person/email/ietf%40huelsing.net/", =
"/api/v1/person/email/mohaisen%40buffalo.edu/"], "expires": =
"2016-08-18T03:54:01", "external_url": "", "group": =
"/api/v1/group/group/1969/", "intended_std_level": null, =
"internal_comments": "", "name": =
"draft-irtf-cfrg-xmss-hash-based-signatures", "note": "", "notify": "", =
"order": 1, "pages": 56, "resource_uri": =
"/api/v1/doc/document/draft-irtf-cfrg-xmss-hash-based-signatures/", =
"rev": "03", "rfc": null, "shepherd": null, "states": =
["/api/v1/doc/state/1/", "/api/v1/doc/state/58/"], "std_level": null, =
"stream": "/api/v1/name/streamname/ietf/", "tags": [], "time": =
"2016-02-15T03:54:01", "title": "XMSS: Extended Hash-Based Signatures", =
"type": "/api/v1/name/doctypename/draft/"}]}122:fred@irp-lnx1%

Which is to say that the json response is just fine, thank you very =
much.

What I conclude (what I think I am forced to conclude) is that =
SOMETIMES, for reasons that I haven't been able to nail down, I get a =
bogus json response. It's intermittent and not very repeatable for any =
given file, but its very repeatable at some point in a list as I walk =
through a long list of files. The other script (one being derived from =
the other, and very similar) accesses metadata for a shorter list of =
files (only the WG docs, or only the individual submissions, and only if =
it has been updated since November), so the issue might even be the =
length of the list of files for all I know.

If you have a clue as to how I might debug this or what information =
might be helpful to you or Glen, please advise.

> On Mar 16, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi Fred,
>=20
> You may already have seen the blurb for the latest datatracker =
release,
> but in case not, I've introduced some caching which should reduce the
> time it takes to produce REST API responses:
>=20
>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/release/6.17.0/
>=20
> It turns out that the API framework we are using has a weakness in how
> it deals with related objects, and this caused a doubling =
(approximately)
> of the response time for the groups query, even if the new related =
objects
> were 2 relationships away.  The caching I've coded up should deal with =
this,
> and my tests indicate an improvement with about a factor 4, or a =
factor 2
> better than before 6.16.0.
>=20
> If, however, things still aren't working out for you, please let Glen,
> Robert and me know.
>=20
>=20
> Best regards,
>=20
> 	Henrik
>=20
>=20
> On 2016-03-14 15:59, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
>> The API to IETF data is still failing, just like it was a week ago. =
What is the plan for getting this fixed?
>>=20
>> 104:fred@irp-lnx1% date;curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>> Mon Mar 14 07:56:14 PDT 2016
>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
>> <html><head>
>> <title>504 Gateway Timeout</title>
>> </head><body>
>> <h1>Gateway Timeout</h1>
>> <p>The gateway did not receive a timely response
>> from the upstream server or application.</p>
>> </body></html>
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 1:06 PM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred@cisco.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Would it help if I sent my script, perhaps? See attached. My model =
command is:
>>>=20
>>> perl -w json-cisco-work.pl --wg --individual --debug test current > =
cisco-drafts.txt
>>>=20
>>> You will need to change one access, which seeks to read =
http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions; you can't get to it =
from outside Cisco. I have attached it as a file.
>>>=20
>>> The debug option has it say what it is trying to read, giving you =
the option of repeating the access. In the output following, you will =
notice that it correctly accessed
>>>=20
>>> "current" is a list of active internet drafts, derived from =
1id-index.txt.
>>>=20
>>> I ran the script twice, and got different results - something that =
has been an issue all through this. It seems to be able to correctly =
access a random number of json files, and then has some issue (in this =
case, "404 no such file", in other cases a gateway failure or an =
internal error) on which it chokes.
>>>=20
>>> Note that this all worked until recently. This is not new code.
>>>=20
>>> 119:fred@irp-lnx1% !nice
>>> nice csh /users/fred/WWW/json/new-work.sh 2015-10-20 2015-11-01 =
2016-03-27 November-March-2016
>>> accessing http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions
>>> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-rfceditor' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ise' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-iesg' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dietf' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Darea' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dwg' 2> /dev/null
>>> malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, string or =
atom, at character offset 0 ["<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLI..."] at =
json-cisco-new-work.pl line 171
>>> accessing http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions
>>> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-rfceditor' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ise' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-iesg' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dietf' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Darea' 2> /dev/null
>>> accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dwg' 2> /dev/null
>>> malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, string or =
atom, at character offset 0 ["<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLI..."] at =
json-cisco-new-work.pl line 171
>>> 120:fred@irp-lnx1% date;curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>>> Thu Mar 10 12:23:27 PST 2016
>>>=20
>>> <!DOCTYPE html>
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> <html lang=3D"en">
>>> <head>
>>>   <meta charset=3D"utf-8">
>>>   <meta http-equiv=3D"X-UA-Compatible" content=3D"IE=3Dedge">
>>>   <title>404 Not Found</title>
>>>   <meta name=3D"viewport" content=3D"width=3Ddevice-width, =
initial-scale=3D1">
>>>=20
>>>   <link =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.16.0/ptmono/stylesheet.css" =
rel=3D'stylesheet' type=3D'text/css'>
>>>   <link =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.16.0/ptsans/stylesheet.css" =
rel=3D'stylesheet' type=3D'text/css'>
>>>   <link =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.16.0/ptserif/stylesheet.css" =
rel=3D'stylesheet' type=3D'text/css'>
>>>=20
>>> ...
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Matt Larson via RT =
<ietf-action@ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Hi Fred,
>>>>=20
>>>> We've done some further tuning, and believe that this is resolved. =
Please let
>>>> me know if you have any further issues.
>>>>=20
>>>> Matt
>>>>=20
>>>> On Thu Mar 10 09:44:29 2016, fred@cisco.com wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 5:21 AM, Matt Larson via RT <ietf-
>>>>> action@ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I believe this has stabilized now that the server move is =
completed.
>>>>> I did some
>>>>>> testing and have been able to consistently pull that URL, along =
with
>>>>> a sampling
>>>>>> of the others.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I am going to resolve out this ticket, but please let us know if
>>>>> there are any
>>>>>> further issues. Replying to this email will re-open the ticket.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>=20
>>>>> 105:fred@irp-lnx1% nice perl -w /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-
>>>>> work.pl --wg --individual --debug test /users/fred/draft/.current =
>
>>>>> /users/fred/WWW/json/cisco-drafts.txt
>>>>> accessing http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions
>>>>> accessing curl
>>>>>=20
>>>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>> rfceditor' 2> /dev/null
>>>>> accessing curl
>>>>>=20
>>>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>> stream-ise' 2> /dev/null
>>>>> accessing curl
>>>>>=20
>>>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>> iesg' 2> /dev/null
>>>>> accessing curl
>>>>>=20
>>>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>> stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null
>>>>> accessing curl
>>>>>=20
>>>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dietf'
>>>>> 2> /dev/null
>>>>> accessing curl
>>>>>=20
>>>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Darea'
>>>>> 2> /dev/null
>>>>> accessing curl
>>>>>=20
>>>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>>>>> 2> /dev/null
>>>>> malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, string or =
atom,
>>>>> at character offset 0 ["<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLI..."] at
>>>>> /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 177
>>>>> 106:fred@irp-lnx1% date;curl
>>>>>=20
>>>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>>>>> Thu Mar 10 09:43:38 PST 2016
>>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
>>>>> <html><head>
>>>>> <title>504 Gateway Timeout</title>
>>>>> </head><body>
>>>>> <h1>Gateway Timeout</h1>
>>>>> <p>The gateway did not receive a timely response
>>>>> from the upstream server or application.</p>
>>>>> </body></html>
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On Tue Mar 08 22:16:23 2016, fred@cisco.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Over the past few days (at least, I'm not sure when it started
>>>>>>> happening) I am randomly getting errors that look like this. =
Often
>>>>>>> several - tens or hundreds - of transactions will work and then =
one
>>>>>>> fail.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Suggestions?
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> 144:fred@irp-lnx1% curl
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&=
type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>>>>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
>>>>>>> <html><head>
>>>>>>> <title>500 Internal Server Error</title>
>>>>>>> </head><body>
>>>>>>> <h1>Internal Server Error</h1>
>>>>>>> <p>The server encountered an internal error or
>>>>>>> misconfiguration and was unable to complete
>>>>>>> your request.</p>
>>>>>>> <p>Please contact the server administrator at
>>>>>>> ietf-action@ietf.org to inform them of the time this error
>>>>> occurred,
>>>>>>> and the actions you performed just before this error.</p>
>>>>>>> <p>More information about this error may be available
>>>>>>> in the server error log.</p>
>>>>>>> <p>Additionally, a 403 Forbidden
>>>>>>> error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to
>>>>> handle
>>>>>>> the request.</p>
>>>>>>> </body></html>
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> My models, in case this is relevant:
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> 145:fred@irp-lnx1% fgrep datatracker.ietf.org
>>>>>>> /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl
>>>>>>> "curl
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>>> stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>>> "curl
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>>> iesg' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>>> "curl
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>>> rfceditor' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>>> $curl_ise_rev =3D "curl
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&ty=
pe__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>>> stream-ise' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>>> "curl
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/\?format=3Djson&limit=3D0=
&type__slug__in=3D%s'
>>>>>>> 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>>> my $curl =3D "curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org%s?format=3Djson' =
2>
>>>>>>> /dev/null";
>>>>>>> "curl
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>> =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/\?format=3Djson\&name__c=
ontains=3D%s\&limit=3D0'
>>>>>>> 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>>> "curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org%s\?format=3Djson' 2>
>>>>>>> /dev/null";
>>>=20
>>> <json-cisco-work.pl><current><cisco_exceptions>
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [www.ietf.org/rt #115169] Data tracker API failing with 'Internal Server Error'
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Hi Fred -

In this case, I would just me the middle-man, reporting this onward to
Henrik, Robert and the Tools Team.  So you did the right thing by
including them, and you don't need to compile a separate report for
me.  :-)  I'm sure Henrik, Robert or others may have questions, so
I've included Robert (and removed IETF-ACTION) here.  :-)

Would everyone use this address group for replies please?

Thanks so much!

Glen


On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred@cisco.com> wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> Copying Glen, who has been working on this. Last week, there were a numbe=
r of more-or-less-random failures, including server errors, gateways that w=
ere unreachable, and files not found. In the past couple of days, Glen has =
taken a look at it, and appears to have mostly resolved the issues. I have =
one remaining issue, which I'm tracking down as we speak so I can describe =
it to Glen. It goes something like this.
>
> I have two scripts that I'm looking at. One wonders what drafts Cisco emp=
loyees have in the pipeline (so we can inform various communities inside th=
e company); the other wonders what subset of those have been updated since =
the past IETF meeting and are specifically working group draft, or are spec=
ifically individual submissions (because we get asked). Note that one of th=
e two seems to invariably work, and is accessing essentially the same data.=
 The script that asks about the more general set of drafts seems to mostly =
work, downloading state information etc and then moving on to downloading r=
elevant draft metadata (I'd download the entire set of drafts in one swell =
foop, but there are more than 1000 drafts at any given time). I see this:
>
> First, quite a number of perfectly normal and successful accesses (I'm sh=
owing you my debug output, which says what command I'm executing):
>
> perl -w /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl --wg --debug test --indiv=
idual /users/fred/draft/.current > /users/fred/WWW/json/cisco-drafts.txt
> accessing http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Dj=
son&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-rfceditor' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Dj=
son&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ise' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Dj=
son&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-iesg' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Dj=
son&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dietf' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Darea' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dwg' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dirtf' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Drg' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dag' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Diab' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddir' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=
=3Djson&name__contains=3Ddraft-ietf-insipid-logme-reqs&limit=3D0' 2> /dev/n=
ull
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/1/?format=
=3Djson' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=
=3Djson&name__contains=3Ddraft-li-pce-tunnel-segment&limit=3D0' 2> /dev/nul=
l
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=
=3Djson&name__contains=3Ddraft-urien-core-racs&limit=3D0' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=
=3Djson&name__contains=3Ddraft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-multi-stream-optimisation&l=
imit=3D0' 2> /dev/null
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=
=3Djson&name__contains=3Ddraft-ietf-tcpm-accurate-ecn&limit=3D0' 2> /dev/nu=
ll
>
> I see probably 500 or more accesses for internet draft metadata similar t=
o that last line, but for various drafts. And then I see:
>
> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=
=3Djson&name__contains=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-xmss-hash-based-signatures&limit=
=3D0' 2> /dev/null
> JSON text must be an object or array (but found number, string, true, fal=
se or null, use allow_nonref to allow this) at /users/fred/WWW/json/json-ci=
sco-work.pl line 256
>
> Note that this doesn't happen on any specific draft, just on some draft w=
hose metadata I access. When I get curious about what it accessed, I get:
>
> 121:fred@irp-lnx1% curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document=
/?format=3Djson&name__contains=3Ddraft-irtf-cfrg-xmss-hash-based-signatures=
&limit=3D0'
>   % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  C=
urrent
>                                  Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  S=
peed
> {"meta": {"limit": 1000, "next": null, "offset": 0, "previous": null, "to=
tal_count": 1}, "objects": [{"abstract": "   This note describes the eXtend=
ed Merkle Signature Scheme (XMSS), a\n   hash-based digital signature syste=
m.  It follows existing\n   descriptions in scientific literature.  The not=
e specifies the WOTS+\n   one-time signature scheme, a single-tree (XMSS) a=
nd a multi-tree\n   variant (XMSS^MT) of XMSS.  Both variants use WOTS+ as =
a main\n   building block.  XMSS provides cryptographic digital signatures\=
n   without relying on the conjectured hardness of mathematical problems.\n=
   Instead, it is proven that it only relies on the properties of\n   crypt=
ographic hash functions.  XMSS provides strong security\n   guarantees and,=
 besides some special instantiations, is even secure\n   when the collision=
 resistance of the underlying hash function is\n   broken.  It is suitable =
for compact implementations, relatively\n   simple to implement, and natura=
lly resists side-channel attacks.\n   Unlike most o105  1997  105  1997    =
0     0    142      0  0:00:14  0:00:13  0:00:01   410
> ther signature systems, hash-based signatures withstand\n   attacks using=
 quantum computers.\n", "ad": null, "authors": ["/api/v1/person/email/dbuti=
n%40cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/", "/api/v1/person/email/stefan-lukas_ga=
zdag%40genua.eu/", "/api/v1/person/email/ietf%40huelsing.net/", "/api/v1/pe=
rson/email/mohaisen%40buffalo.edu/"], "expires": "2016-08-18T03:54:01", "ex=
ternal_url": "", "group": "/api/v1/group/group/1969/", "intended_std_level"=
: null, "internal_comments": "", "name": "draft-irtf-cfrg-xmss-hash-based-s=
ignatures", "note": "", "notify": "", "order": 1, "pages": 56, "resource_ur=
i": "/api/v1/doc/document/draft-irtf-cfrg-xmss-hash-based-signatures/", "re=
v": "03", "rfc": null, "shepherd": null, "states": ["/api/v1/doc/state/1/",=
 "/api/v1/doc/state/58/"], "std_level": null, "stream": "/api/v1/name/strea=
mname/ietf/", "tags": [], "time": "2016-02-15T03:54:01", "title": "XMSS: Ex=
tended Hash-Based Signatures", "type": "/api/v1/name/doctypename/draft/"}]}=
122:fred@irp-lnx1%
>
> Which is to say that the json response is just fine, thank you very much.
>
> What I conclude (what I think I am forced to conclude) is that SOMETIMES,=
 for reasons that I haven't been able to nail down, I get a bogus json resp=
onse. It's intermittent and not very repeatable for any given file, but its=
 very repeatable at some point in a list as I walk through a long list of f=
iles. The other script (one being derived from the other, and very similar)=
 accesses metadata for a shorter list of files (only the WG docs, or only t=
he individual submissions, and only if it has been updated since November),=
 so the issue might even be the length of the list of files for all I know.
>
> If you have a clue as to how I might debug this or what information might=
 be helpful to you or Glen, please advise.
>
>> On Mar 16, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wr=
ote:
>>
>> Hi Fred,
>>
>> You may already have seen the blurb for the latest datatracker release,
>> but in case not, I've introduced some caching which should reduce the
>> time it takes to produce REST API responses:
>>
>>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/release/6.17.0/
>>
>> It turns out that the API framework we are using has a weakness in how
>> it deals with related objects, and this caused a doubling (approximately=
)
>> of the response time for the groups query, even if the new related objec=
ts
>> were 2 relationships away.  The caching I've coded up should deal with t=
his,
>> and my tests indicate an improvement with about a factor 4, or a factor =
2
>> better than before 6.16.0.
>>
>> If, however, things still aren't working out for you, please let Glen,
>> Robert and me know.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>       Henrik
>>
>>
>> On 2016-03-14 15:59, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
>>> The API to IETF data is still failing, just like it was a week ago. Wha=
t is the plan for getting this fixed?
>>>
>>> 104:fred@irp-lnx1% date;curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group=
/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>>> Mon Mar 14 07:56:14 PDT 2016
>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
>>> <html><head>
>>> <title>504 Gateway Timeout</title>
>>> </head><body>
>>> <h1>Gateway Timeout</h1>
>>> <p>The gateway did not receive a timely response
>>> from the upstream server or application.</p>
>>> </body></html>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 1:06 PM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred@cisco.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Would it help if I sent my script, perhaps? See attached. My model com=
mand is:
>>>>
>>>> perl -w json-cisco-work.pl --wg --individual --debug test current > ci=
sco-drafts.txt
>>>>
>>>> You will need to change one access, which seeks to read http://wwwin-p=
eople.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions; you can't get to it from outside Cis=
co. I have attached it as a file.
>>>>
>>>> The debug option has it say what it is trying to read, giving you the =
option of repeating the access. In the output following, you will notice th=
at it correctly accessed
>>>>
>>>> "current" is a list of active internet drafts, derived from 1id-index.=
txt.
>>>>
>>>> I ran the script twice, and got different results - something that has=
 been an issue all through this. It seems to be able to correctly access a =
random number of json files, and then has some issue (in this case, "404 no=
 such file", in other cases a gateway failure or an internal error) on whic=
h it chokes.
>>>>
>>>> Note that this all worked until recently. This is not new code.
>>>>
>>>> 119:fred@irp-lnx1% !nice
>>>> nice csh /users/fred/WWW/json/new-work.sh 2015-10-20 2015-11-01 2016-0=
3-27 November-March-2016
>>>> accessing http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions
>>>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-rfceditor' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ise' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-iesg' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?forma=
t=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dietf' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?forma=
t=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Darea' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?forma=
t=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dwg' 2> /dev/null
>>>> malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, string or atom, =
at character offset 0 ["<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLI..."] at json-cisco-new-work.pl=
 line 171
>>>> accessing http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions
>>>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-rfceditor' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ise' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-iesg' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=
=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?forma=
t=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dietf' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?forma=
t=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Darea' 2> /dev/null
>>>> accessing curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?forma=
t=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dwg' 2> /dev/null
>>>> malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, string or atom, =
at character offset 0 ["<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLI..."] at json-cisco-new-work.pl=
 line 171
>>>> 120:fred@irp-lnx1% date;curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/grou=
p/group/?format=3Djson&limit=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>>>> Thu Mar 10 12:23:27 PST 2016
>>>>
>>>> <!DOCTYPE html>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <html lang=3D"en">
>>>> <head>
>>>>   <meta charset=3D"utf-8">
>>>>   <meta http-equiv=3D"X-UA-Compatible" content=3D"IE=3Dedge">
>>>>   <title>404 Not Found</title>
>>>>   <meta name=3D"viewport" content=3D"width=3Ddevice-width, initial-sca=
le=3D1">
>>>>
>>>>   <link href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.16.0/ptmono/stylesheet.c=
ss" rel=3D'stylesheet' type=3D'text/css'>
>>>>   <link href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.16.0/ptsans/stylesheet.c=
ss" rel=3D'stylesheet' type=3D'text/css'>
>>>>   <link href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.16.0/ptserif/stylesheet.=
css" rel=3D'stylesheet' type=3D'text/css'>
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Matt Larson via RT <ietf-action@ietf.or=
g> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Fred,
>>>>>
>>>>> We've done some further tuning, and believe that this is resolved. Pl=
ease let
>>>>> me know if you have any further issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu Mar 10 09:44:29 2016, fred@cisco.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 5:21 AM, Matt Larson via RT <ietf-
>>>>>> action@ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe this has stabilized now that the server move is completed=
.
>>>>>> I did some
>>>>>>> testing and have been able to consistently pull that URL, along wit=
h
>>>>>> a sampling
>>>>>>> of the others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am going to resolve out this ticket, but please let us know if
>>>>>> there are any
>>>>>>> further issues. Replying to this email will re-open the ticket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 105:fred@irp-lnx1% nice perl -w /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-
>>>>>> work.pl --wg --individual --debug test /users/fred/draft/.current >
>>>>>> /users/fred/WWW/json/cisco-drafts.txt
>>>>>> accessing http://wwwin-people.cisco.com/fred/cisco_exceptions
>>>>>> accessing curl
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>> rfceditor' 2> /dev/null
>>>>>> accessing curl
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>> stream-ise' 2> /dev/null
>>>>>> accessing curl
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>> iesg' 2> /dev/null
>>>>>> accessing curl
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>> stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null
>>>>>> accessing curl
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dietf'
>>>>>> 2> /dev/null
>>>>>> accessing curl
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Darea'
>>>>>> 2> /dev/null
>>>>>> accessing curl
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>>>>>> 2> /dev/null
>>>>>> malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, string or atom=
,
>>>>>> at character offset 0 ["<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLI..."] at
>>>>>> /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 177
>>>>>> 106:fred@irp-lnx1% date;curl
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>>>>>> Thu Mar 10 09:43:38 PST 2016
>>>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
>>>>>> <html><head>
>>>>>> <title>504 Gateway Timeout</title>
>>>>>> </head><body>
>>>>>> <h1>Gateway Timeout</h1>
>>>>>> <p>The gateway did not receive a timely response
>>>>>> from the upstream server or application.</p>
>>>>>> </body></html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue Mar 08 22:16:23 2016, fred@cisco.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Over the past few days (at least, I'm not sure when it started
>>>>>>>> happening) I am randomly getting errors that look like this. Often
>>>>>>>> several - tens or hundreds - of transactions will work and then on=
e
>>>>>>>> fail.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Suggestions?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 144:fred@irp-lnx1% curl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Dwg'
>>>>>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
>>>>>>>> <html><head>
>>>>>>>> <title>500 Internal Server Error</title>
>>>>>>>> </head><body>
>>>>>>>> <h1>Internal Server Error</h1>
>>>>>>>> <p>The server encountered an internal error or
>>>>>>>> misconfiguration and was unable to complete
>>>>>>>> your request.</p>
>>>>>>>> <p>Please contact the server administrator at
>>>>>>>> ietf-action@ietf.org to inform them of the time this error
>>>>>> occurred,
>>>>>>>> and the actions you performed just before this error.</p>
>>>>>>>> <p>More information about this error may be available
>>>>>>>> in the server error log.</p>
>>>>>>>> <p>Additionally, a 403 Forbidden
>>>>>>>> error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to
>>>>>> handle
>>>>>>>> the request.</p>
>>>>>>>> </body></html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My models, in case this is relevant:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 145:fred@irp-lnx1% fgrep datatracker.ietf.org
>>>>>>>> /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl
>>>>>>>> "curl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>>>> stream-ietf' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>>>> "curl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>>>> iesg' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>>>> "curl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>>>> rfceditor' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>>>> $curl_ise_rev =3D "curl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/state/?format=3Djson&limit=
=3D0&type__slug__in=3Ddraft-
>>>>>>>> stream-ise' 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>>>> "curl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/\?format=3Djson&limi=
t=3D0&type__slug__in=3D%s'
>>>>>>>> 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>>>> my $curl =3D "curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org%s?format=3Djson' =
2>
>>>>>>>> /dev/null";
>>>>>>>> "curl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> 'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/\?format=3Djson\&na=
me__contains=3D%s\&limit=3D0'
>>>>>>>> 2> /dev/null";
>>>>>>>> "curl 'https://datatracker.ietf.org%s\?format=3Djson' 2>
>>>>>>>> /dev/null";
>>>>
>>>> <json-cisco-work.pl><current><cisco_exceptions>
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On Mar 16, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> =
wrote:
> I have no immediate idea about why you'd get bad JSON occasionally.  =
If
> it would be possible for you to catch the bad JSON when this happens, =
it
> might (or might not, of course) provide additional clues.  I'd love to
> see a sample if you can provide one.

OK. I changed the code to use the try/catch logic. FYI, the code has =
previously walked our local mirror of the internet draft directory to =
find the subset of drafts that have author emails @cisco.com or that we =
recognize, and which are current Cisco employees. We will now get the =
metadata for each such file.

I also stuck in an array named @iwonder, as "I wonder" what the second =
line of a file response might be. The JSON file comes in as a single =
line with no \n.

sub get_drafts {
    my $base;
    my @words;
    my @iwonder;
    my $curl =3D "curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/\?format=3Djson\&name=3D=
%s\&limit=3D0' 2> /dev/null";

    foreach my $name ( keys %drafts ) {

# get objects (including but not limited to internet drafts) that expire =
after today.

        @iwonder =3D ();
        open OBJECTS, '-|', sprintf( $curl, $name )
          or die "can't access $name metadata";
        my $json =3D <OBJECTS>;
        @iwonder =3D readline OBJECTS unless (eof OBJECTS);
        close OBJECTS;

        if ( defined $json ) {
            my $decoded;

            try {
                $decoded =3D decode_json($json);
            }
            catch {
                printf STDERR "accessing %s\n", sprintf( $curl, $name );
                warn "caught error: $_ JSON was %json";
                $stop++;
            };

            if ( defined $decoded->{'objects'} ) {

I now ran the program in debug mode stopping in the "catch" clause, and =
got the following. It looks like I asked for JSON metadata, and instead =
got a "404 not found" in some odd format. Which is interesting as the =
file was in the mirror image as of a few hours ago...

	%json
	<!DOCTYPE html>
		...
	   <title>404 Not Found</title>
		...

accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=3Djson&name=3Ddr=
aft-dseomn-trans-browsers&limit=3D0' 2> /dev/null
caught error: JSON text must be an object or array (but found number, =
string, true, false or null, use allow_nonref to allow this) at =
/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 262
 JSON was %json at /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 266.
 at /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 266
	=
main::__ANON__[/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl:268]('JSON text =
must be an object or array (but found number, strin...') called at =
/usr/cisco/packages/perl/perl-5.8.8/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/Try/Tiny.pm line =
100
	Try::Tiny::try('CODE(0x960ae48)', =
'Try::Tiny::Catch=3DREF(0x960513c)') called at =
/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 268
	main::get_drafts() called at =
/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 63
main::CODE(0x960531c)(/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl:267):
267:			$stop++;
  DB<3> x @iwonder
0  '<!DOCTYPE html>
'
1  '
'
2  '
'
3  '
'
4  '<html lang=3D"en">
'
5  '  <head>
'
6  '    <meta charset=3D"utf-8">
'
7  '    <meta http-equiv=3D"X-UA-Compatible" content=3D"IE=3Dedge">
'
8  '    <title>404 Not Found</title>
'
9  '    <meta name=3D"viewport" content=3D"width=3Ddevice-width, =
initial-scale=3D1">
'
10  '
'
11  '    <link =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.17.0/ptmono/stylesheet.css" =
rel=3D\'stylesheet\' type=3D\'text/css\'>
'
12  '    <link =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.17.0/ptsans/stylesheet.css" =
rel=3D\'stylesheet\' type=3D\'text/css\'>
'
13  '    <link =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.17.0/ptserif/stylesheet.css" =
rel=3D\'stylesheet\' type=3D\'text/css\'>
'
14  '
'
15  '
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Hi Fred,

On 2016-03-16 21:57, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
>=20
> On Mar 16, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> w=
rote:
>> I have no immediate idea about why you'd get bad JSON occasionally.  I=
f
>> it would be possible for you to catch the bad JSON when this happens, =
it
>> might (or might not, of course) provide additional clues.  I'd love to=

>> see a sample if you can provide one.
>=20
> OK. I changed the code to use the try/catch logic. FYI, the code has
> previously walked our local mirror of the internet draft directory to
> find the subset of drafts that have author emails @cisco.com or that
> we recognize, and which are current Cisco employees. We will now get
> the metadata for each such file.

Right.

> I also stuck in an array named @iwonder, as "I wonder" what the
> second line of a file response might be. The JSON file comes in as a
> single line with no \n.

<<snip code>>
=20
> I now ran the program in debug mode stopping in the "catch" clause, and=
 got the following. It looks like I asked for JSON metadata, and instead =
got a "404 not found" in some odd format. Which is interesting as the fil=
e was in the mirror image as of a few hours ago...
>=20
> 	%json
> 	<!DOCTYPE html>
> 		...
> 	   <title>404 Not Found</title>
> 		...

Oho!

=46rom the more detailed html (which I snipped out) I see that this is in=
deed
a 404 page from the datatracker.

I've now tweaked the 404 page so that it will (for the time being) give
back the URL and query string it thought it was responding to.  Asking fo=
r
the url https://datatracker.ietf.org/foo?bar=3Dbaz will give back a page
with this at the beginning:

<html lang=3D"en">
  <head>
    <meta charset=3D"utf-8">
    <meta http-equiv=3D"X-UA-Compatible" content=3D"IE=3Dedge">
    <title>404 Not Found: /foo?bar=3Dbaz </title>

That, together with your debug mode code, should help figure out what the=

datatracker _thinks_ it was asked for, and possibly let us pull some more=

at the thread.


Best regards,

	Henrik


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Thread-Topic: [Tools-discuss] [www.ietf.org/rt #115169] Data tracker API failing with 'Internal Server Error'
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<title>404 Not Found: /error/HTTP_FORBIDDEN.html.var </title>'


accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=3Djson&name=3Ddr=
aft-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra&limit=3D0' 2> /dev/null
caught error: JSON text must be an object or array (but found number, =
string, true, false or null, use allow_nonref to allow this) at =
/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 290
 at /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 294
	=
main::__ANON__[/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl:301]('JSON text =
must be an object or array (but found number, strin...') called at =
/usr/cisco/packages/perl/perl-5.8.8/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/Try/Tiny.pm line =
100
	Try::Tiny::try('CODE(0xa6baa70)', =
'Try::Tiny::Catch=3DREF(0xa6c0ff4)') called at =
/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 301
	main::get_drafts() called at =
/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 63
main::CODE(0xa6c0fa0)(/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl:299):
299:	                die "";
  DB<5> x $json
0  ''
  DB<6> x @iwonder
0  '<!DOCTYPE html> '
1  ''
2  ''
3  ''
4  '<html lang=3D"en">'
5  '  <head>'
6  '    <meta charset=3D"utf-8">'
7  '    <meta http-equiv=3D"X-UA-Compatible" content=3D"IE=3Dedge">'
8  '    <title>404 Not Found: /error/HTTP_FORBIDDEN.html.var </title>'
9  '    <meta name=3D"viewport" content=3D"width=3Ddevice-width, =
initial-scale=3D1">'
10  ''
11  '    <link =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.17.0/ptmono/stylesheet.css" =
rel=3D\'stylesheet\' type=3D\'text/css\'>'
12  '    <link =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.17.0/ptsans/stylesheet.css" =
rel=3D\'stylesheet\' type=3D\'text/css\'>'
13  '    <link =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.17.0/ptserif/stylesheet.css" =
rel=3D\'stylesheet\' type=3D\'text/css\'>'
14  '    '
15  ''
16  '    <link rel=3D"stylesheet" =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.17.0/font-awesome/css/font-awesome.m=
in.css">'
17  '    <link rel=3D"stylesheet" =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.17.0/ietf/bootstrap/css/bootstrap.mi=
n.css">'
18  '    <link rel=3D"stylesheet" =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.17.0/ietf/bootstrap/css/bootstrap-th=
eme.min.css">'
19  '    <link rel=3D"stylesheet" =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/6.17.0/ietf/css/ietf.css">'
20  '    <style>'



> On Mar 16, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi Fred,
>=20
> On 2016-03-16 21:57, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
>>=20
>> On Mar 16, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> =
wrote:
>>> I have no immediate idea about why you'd get bad JSON occasionally.  =
If
>>> it would be possible for you to catch the bad JSON when this =
happens, it
>>> might (or might not, of course) provide additional clues.  I'd love =
to
>>> see a sample if you can provide one.
>>=20
>> OK. I changed the code to use the try/catch logic. FYI, the code has
>> previously walked our local mirror of the internet draft directory to
>> find the subset of drafts that have author emails @cisco.com or that
>> we recognize, and which are current Cisco employees. We will now get
>> the metadata for each such file.
>=20
> Right.
>=20
>> I also stuck in an array named @iwonder, as "I wonder" what the
>> second line of a file response might be. The JSON file comes in as a
>> single line with no \n.
>=20
> <<snip code>>
>=20
>> I now ran the program in debug mode stopping in the "catch" clause, =
and got the following. It looks like I asked for JSON metadata, and =
instead got a "404 not found" in some odd format. Which is interesting =
as the file was in the mirror image as of a few hours ago...
>>=20
>> 	%json
>> 	<!DOCTYPE html>
>> 		...
>> 	   <title>404 Not Found</title>
>> 		...
>=20
> Oho!
>=20
> =46rom the more detailed html (which I snipped out) I see that this is =
indeed
> a 404 page from the datatracker.
>=20
> I've now tweaked the 404 page so that it will (for the time being) =
give
> back the URL and query string it thought it was responding to.  Asking =
for
> the url https://datatracker.ietf.org/foo?bar=3Dbaz will give back a =
page
> with this at the beginning:
>=20
> <html lang=3D"en">
>  <head>
>    <meta charset=3D"utf-8">
>    <meta http-equiv=3D"X-UA-Compatible" content=3D"IE=3Dedge">
>    <title>404 Not Found: /foo?bar=3Dbaz </title>
>=20
> That, together with your debug mode code, should help figure out what =
the
> datatracker _thinks_ it was asked for, and possibly let us pull some =
more
> at the thread.
>=20
>=20
> Best regards,
>=20
> 	Henrik
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Hi Fred,


On 2016-03-17 02:50, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
> <title>404 Not Found: /error/HTTP_FORBIDDEN.html.var </title>'

Hmm.

At first I thought "That's really interesting"; but I believe that it's
probably the end result of a chain of redirects; that URL is something
that Apache redirects to, rather than the datatracker.

I think I've managed to identify /api/ calls from your script in the logs=

now, and if what's above is the end of the 404 page generation, the logs
seem to show the initial /api/v1/... 404s -- I see 9 of them from March
16th, and each of them that I've tried, have returned 200s on the re-try.=


This looks like a bug in the API framework; I'll try to pull on that thre=
ad.



	Henrik


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Thread-Topic: [Tools-discuss] [www.ietf.org/rt #115169] Data tracker API failing with 'Internal Server Error'
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> On Mar 17, 2016, at 2:48 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> =
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> This looks like a bug in the API framework; I'll try to pull on that =
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I've filed a few of these errors before, but it seems the cause is still
there.

I recently submitted:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipsecme-rfc4307bis-04

which looks fine. But if you go back a few versions:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipsecme-rfc4307bis-02

that one does not list the -04 version being available. Even
though an older one, the -01, does have the -04 version listed:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipsecme-rfc4307bis-01

the reason I see these is that when you google the draft name,
you usually end up with an older version, probably because it
has more PageRank magic. Then you don't always see the latest
version :(

If this one could be manually fixed, that would be great. If
we could find the bug, that would be even better.

If someone could also confirm that the tools people see these
emails, that would be great. I only ever see a moderator warning
when sending these emails.

Paul


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well, that's one way of getting a confirmation the email went through :)

Paul

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From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
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I've filed a few of these errors before, but it seems the cause is still
there.

I recently submitted:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipsecme-rfc4307bis-04

which looks fine. But if you go back a few versions:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipsecme-rfc4307bis-02

that one does not list the -04 version being available. Even
though an older one, the -01, does have the -04 version listed:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipsecme-rfc4307bis-01

the reason I see these is that when you google the draft name,
you usually end up with an older version, probably because it
has more PageRank magic. Then you don't always see the latest
version :(

If this one could be manually fixed, that would be great. If
we could find the bug, that would be even better.

If someone could also confirm that the tools people see these
emails, that would be great. I only ever see a moderator warning
when sending these emails.

Paul

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Hi Fred,

On 2016-03-17 17:29, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
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>> On Mar 17, 2016, at 2:48 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
>>
>> This looks like a bug in the API framework; I'll try to pull on that thread.
> 
> Thanks

I made a change in the apache/mod_wsgi config yesterday, 2016-03-17 10:16 PST,
which I believe should address the 404 problem.  I haven't seen a single api
query 404 since then; does that agree with what you're seeing?


Best regards,

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> On Mar 18, 2016, at 5:54 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> I made a change in the apache/mod_wsgi config yesterday, 2016-03-17 =
10:16 PST,
> which I believe should address the 404 problem.  I haven't seen a =
single api
> query 404 since then; does that agree with what you're seeing?

Well... would you believe '<title>403 Forbidden</title>'? Fri Mar 18 =
08:51:21 PDT 2016

Notice that I got failures on two different drafts, but both accesses =
were obtaining the metadata for a draft.

104:fred@irp-lnx1% nice perl -w /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl =
--wg --individual /users/fred/draft/.current > =
/users/fred/WWW/json/cisco-drafts.txt

accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=3Djson&name=3Ddr=
aft-hares-i2rs-pkt-eca-data-model&limit=3D0' 2> /dev/null
caught error: malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, =
string or atom, at character offset 0 ["<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLI..."] at =
/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 290
Died at /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 299.

105:fred@irp-lnx1% date
Fri Mar 18 08:47:07 PDT 2016

106:fred@irp-lnx1% perl -w -d /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl =
--wg --individual /users/fred/draft/.current > =
/users/fred/WWW/json/cisco-drafts.txt

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main::(/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl:12):
12:	$rfc_published =3D '';
  DB<1> v 299
296:	                    chomp $line;
297:	                    printf "%s\n", $line;
298 	                }
299:	                die "";
300:	                $stop++;
301:	            };
302
303:	            if ( defined $decoded->{'objects'} ) {
304:	                my @objects =3D @{ $decoded->{'objects'} };
305 	              draft_object:
  DB<2> b 299
  DB<3> c
accessing curl =
'https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/doc/document/?format=3Djson&name=3Ddr=
aft-ram-bfcpbis-sdp-ws-uri&limit=3D0' 2> /dev/null
caught error: malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, =
string or atom, at character offset 0 ["<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLI..."] at =
/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 290
 at /users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 294
	=
main::__ANON__[/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl:301]('malformed =
JSON string, neither array, object, number, string ...') called at =
/usr/cisco/packages/perl/perl-5.8.8/lib/site_perl/5.8.8/Try/Tiny.pm line =
100
	Try::Tiny::try('CODE(0x9725b70)', =
'Try::Tiny::Catch=3DREF(0x972b084)') called at =
/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 301
	main::get_drafts() called at =
/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl line 63
main::CODE(0x9725f3c)(/users/fred/WWW/json/json-cisco-work.pl:299):
299:	                die "";
  DB<3> p $json
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
  DB<4> x @iwonder
0  '<html><head>'
1  '<title>403 Forbidden</title>'
2  '</head><body>'
3  '<h1>Forbidden</h1>'
4  '<p>You don\'t have permission to access /api/v1/doc/document/'
5  'on this server.<br />'
6  '</p>'
7  '<p>Additionally, a 403 Forbidden'
8  'error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle =
the request.</p>'
9  '</body></html>'
  DB<5>

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On 2016-03-18 16:55, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 5:54 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
>>
>> I made a change in the apache/mod_wsgi config yesterday, 2016-03-17 10:16 PST,
>> which I believe should address the 404 problem.  I haven't seen a single api
>> query 404 since then; does that agree with what you're seeing?
> 
> Well... would you believe '<title>403 Forbidden</title>'? Fri Mar 18 08:51:21 PDT 2016

Heh!  Yes, I find 3 of them in today's log.

> Notice that I got failures on two different drafts, but both accesses were obtaining the metadata for a draft.

<<snip details>>

Right.  At the moment I have a whisper of a theory about these, and if that's
right, all of these will occur during a very short period of time, so an
immediate re-try on failure should work.  However, my somewhat tenuous theory
also indicates that you should see these less often than you do, so it may be
wrong.  I'll keep poking.


	Henrik


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> On Mar 18, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Signed PGP part
>=20
> On 2016-03-18 16:55, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
> >
> >> On Mar 18, 2016, at 5:54 AM, Henrik Levkowetz =
<henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I made a change in the apache/mod_wsgi config yesterday, 2016-03-17 =
10:16 PST,
> >> which I believe should address the 404 problem.  I haven't seen a =
single api
> >> query 404 since then; does that agree with what you're seeing?
> >
> > Well... would you believe '<title>403 Forbidden</title>'? Fri Mar 18 =
08:51:21 PDT 2016
>=20
> Heh!  Yes, I find 3 of them in today's log.
>=20
> > Notice that I got failures on two different drafts, but both =
accesses were obtaining the metadata for a draft.
>=20
> <<snip details>>
>=20
> Right.  At the moment I have a whisper of a theory about these, and if =
that's
> right, all of these will occur during a very short period of time, so =
an
> immediate re-try on failure should work.  However, my somewhat tenuous =
theory
> also indicates that you should see these less often than you do, so it =
may be
> wrong.  I'll keep poking.
>=20
>=20
> 	Henrik


Not sure if another data point helps but I=E2=80=99m getting 403 errors =
in the IETF app:

2016-03-19 00:19:01.411 ietfers[9849:1578125] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?type=3Darea&time__gt=3D19=
70-01-01T22:00:00&limit=3D100
2016-03-19 00:19:02.594 ietfers[9849:1578125] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?type__in=3Dietf,irtf,iab&=
time__gt=3D1970-01-01T22:00:00&limit=3D100
2016-03-19 00:19:03.345 ietfers[9849:1578125] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?type=3Dwg&state__in=3Dact=
ive,proposed,bof,conclude,bof-conc&time__gt=3D1970-01-01T22:00:00&limit=3D=
100
2016-03-19 00:19:05.352 ietfers[9849:1578125] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?state__in=3Dactive%2Cprop=
osed%2Cbof%2Cconclude%2Cbof-conc&offset=3D100&limit=3D100&time__gt=3D1970-=
01-01T22%3A00%3A00&type=3Dwg
2016-03-19 00:19:07.643 ietfers[9849:1578125] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?state__in=3Dactive%2Cprop=
osed%2Cbof%2Cconclude%2Cbof-conc&type=3Dwg&limit=3D100&time__gt=3D1970-01-=
01T22%3A00%3A00&offset=3D200
2016-03-19 00:19:10.854 ietfers[9849:1578125] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?state__in=3Dactive%2Cprop=
osed%2Cbof%2Cconclude%2Cbof-conc&type=3Dwg&limit=3D100&time__gt=3D1970-01-=
01T22%3A00%3A00&offset=3D300
2016-03-19 00:19:14.539 ietfers[9849:1578125] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?state__in=3Dactive%2Cprop=
osed%2Cbof%2Cconclude%2Cbof-conc&type=3Dwg&limit=3D100&time__gt=3D1970-01-=
01T22%3A00%3A00&offset=3D400
2016-03-19 00:19:16.337 ietfers[9849:1578125] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?state__in=3Dactive%2Cprop=
osed%2Cbof%2Cconclude%2Cbof-conc&type=3Dwg&limit=3D100&time__gt=3D1970-01-=
01T22%3A00%3A00&offset=3D500
2016-03-19 00:19:18.313 ietfers[9849:1578125] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?state__in=3Dactive%2Cprop=
osed%2Cbof%2Cconclude%2Cbof-conc&type=3Dwg&limit=3D100&time__gt=3D1970-01-=
01T22%3A00%3A00&offset=3D600
2016-03-19 00:19:23.485 ietfers[9849:1578125] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?state__in=3Dactive%2Cprop=
osed%2Cbof%2Cconclude%2Cbof-conc&type=3Dwg&limit=3D100&time__gt=3D1970-01-=
01T22%3A00%3A00&offset=3D700
2016-03-19 00:19:26.113 ietfers[9849:1578125] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?state__in=3Dactive%2Cprop=
osed%2Cbof%2Cconclude%2Cbof-conc&type=3Dwg&limit=3D100&time__gt=3D1970-01-=
01T22%3A00%3A00&offset=3D800
2016-03-19 00:19:27.941 ietfers[9849:1578125] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?state__in=3Dactive%2Cprop=
osed%2Cbof%2Cconclude%2Cbof-conc&type=3Dwg&limit=3D100&time__gt=3D1970-01-=
01T22%3A00%3A00&offset=3D900
2016-03-19 00:19:29.176 ietfers[9849:1578125] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?type=3Dteam&time__gt=3D19=
70-01-01T22:00:00&limit=3D100
2016-03-19 00:19:29.440 ietfers[9849:1578125] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?type=3Dag&time__gt=3D1970=
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2016-03-19 00:19:29.888 ietfers[9849:1578125] =
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-01-01T22:00:00&limit=3D100
2016-03-19 00:19:29.995 ietfers[9849:1578125] getJsonUrl Error: Error =
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pe=3Drg&time__gt=3D1970-01-01T22:00:00&limit=3D100, =
NSLocalizedDescription=3DRequest failed: forbidden (403), =
com.alamofire.serialization.response.error.data=3D<3c21444f 43545950 =
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pe=3Drg&time__gt=3D1970-01-01T22:00:00&limit=3D100, =
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text/html, com.alamofire.serialization.response.error.data=3D<3c21444f =
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3c626f64 793e0a3c 68313e46 6f726269 6464656e 3c2f6831 3e0a3c70 3e596f75 =
20646f6e 27742068 61766520 7065726d 69737369 6f6e2074 6f206163 63657373 =
202f6170 692f7631 2f67726f 75702f67 726f7570 2f0a6f6e 20746869 73207365 =
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [www.ietf.org/rt #115169] Data tracker API failing with 'Internal Server Error'
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Also, this seems like it shouldn=E2=80=99t happen. I=E2=80=99m =
requesting content type application/json and getting back text/html.

Tom


2016-03-19 22:20:17.798 ietfers[12340:2154099] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?type=3Darea&time__gt=3D20=
15-06-12T08:30:50&limit=3D100
2016-03-19 22:20:18.259 ietfers[12340:2154099] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?type__in=3Dietf,irtf,iab&=
time__gt=3D2014-07-03T10:43:14&limit=3D100
2016-03-19 22:20:18.414 ietfers[12340:2154099] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?type=3Dwg&state__in=3Dact=
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100
2016-03-19 22:20:18.565 ietfers[12340:2154099] =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?type=3Dteam&time__gt=3D20=
15-10-31T20:06:04&limit=3D100
2016-03-19 22:20:18.657 ietfers[12340:2154099] getJsonUrl Error: Error =
Domain=3Dcom.alamofire.error.serialization.response Code=3D-1011 =
"Request failed: forbidden (403)" =
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https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/v1/group/group/?type=3Dteam&time__gt=3D20=
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And another problem:

I tried to download 200 sessions and they all have the same group =
(=E2=80=9CTLS). You can see the log here:

https://gist.github.com/pusateri/0645197115770266efcb

Can I suggest we go back to the old API code until after this IETF. I =
need to submit the IETFers app for approval in the next day or two and I =
can=E2=80=99t submit it with the API not working.

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Hi Tom,

As it says in the list footer:
Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ie=
tfdb

I've taken the debug conversation with Fred off-list; the issue below is
separate and would better be captured in the issue tracker.

	Henrik

On 2016-03-20 03:22, Tom Pusateri wrote:
> Also, this seems like it shouldn=E2=80=99t happen. I=E2=80=99m requesti=
ng content type application/json and getting back text/html.
>=20
> Tom
>=20
>=20
> 2016-03-19 22:20:17.798 ietfers[12340:2154099] https://datatracker.ietf=
=2Eorg/api/v1/group/group/?type=3Darea&time__gt=3D2015-06-12T08:30:50&lim=
it=3D100
> 2016-03-19 22:20:18.259 ietfers[12340:2154099] https://datatracker.ietf=
=2Eorg/api/v1/group/group/?type__in=3Dietf,irtf,iab&time__gt=3D2014-07-03=
T10:43:14&limit=3D100
> 2016-03-19 22:20:18.414 ietfers[12340:2154099] https://datatracker.ietf=
=2Eorg/api/v1/group/group/?type=3Dwg&state__in=3Dactive,proposed,bof,conc=
lude,bof-conc&time__gt=3D2016-03-15T10:16:22&limit=3D100
> 2016-03-19 22:20:18.565 ietfers[12340:2154099] https://datatracker.ietf=
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it=3D100
> 2016-03-19 22:20:18.657 ietfers[12340:2154099] getJsonUrl Error: Error =
Domain=3Dcom.alamofire.error.serialization.response Code=3D-1011 "Request=
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68746d 6c3e0a>, NSUnderlyingError=3D0x7986f8d0 {Error Domain=3Dcom.alamof=
ire.error.serialization.response Code=3D-1016 "Request failed: unacceptab=
le content-type: text/html" UserInfo=3D{com.alamofire.serialization.respo=
nse.error.response=3D<NSHTTPURLResponse: 0x79631110> { URL: https://datat=
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06:04&limit=3D100 } { status code: 403, headers {
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Description=3DRequest failed: unacceptable content-type: text/html, com.a=
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Hi Tom,

Inline:

On 2016-03-20 03:45, Tom Pusateri wrote:
> And another problem:
>=20
> I tried to download 200 sessions and they all have the same group (=E2=80=
=9CTLS). You can see the log here:
>=20
> https://gist.github.com/pusateri/0645197115770266efcb
>=20
> Can I suggest we go back to the old API code until after this IETF. I n=
eed to submit the IETFers app for approval in the next day or two and I c=
an=E2=80=99t submit it with the API not working.

The issue with 404s and 403s returned from API calls has appeared with
the upgrade of the server OS, which has pulled in a different Apache
version, a different MySQL version, and other things.  I'm afraid there's=

no way to revert to the old OS and application versions.

The issue above seems completely unrelated to that, and looks more like
missing query arguments.  I'll look into it more with you if you'll follo=
w
the advice in the list footer, and report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at ht=
tp://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb .


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I do a lot of my code reviewing with Rietveld which has the nice feature
that you can navigate between chunks using 'n' and 'p'. This is very
convenient on big diffs.

I've updated rfcdiff to do this and posted the results at:
   https://github.com/ekr/rfcdiff

The system is very simple: the diff loads as usual, but when you press
'n' or 'p' it navigates to the next or previous chunk and puts a line above.
the chunk you are looking at now. We could add more functions, obviously,
but even this is useful.

In order to keep rfcdiff as one monolithic file, I've written this by making
a template file (rfcdiff-tmpl), a JS file, and a merger that puts them
together.
This allows you to edit the JS locally but then combine them for
distribution.

Henrik, is this a change you would be willing to take? What would you need
me to do to contribute it?

Thanks,
-Ekr

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I do a lot of my code reviewing with Rietveld which has th=
e nice feature<div>that you can navigate between chunks using &#39;n&#39; a=
nd &#39;p&#39;. This is very</div><div>convenient on big diffs.</div><div><=
br></div><div>I&#39;ve updated rfcdiff to do this and posted the results at=
:</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/ekr/rfcdiff">https:/=
/github.com/ekr/rfcdiff</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>The system is very=
 simple: the diff loads as usual, but when you press</div><div>&#39;n&#39; =
or &#39;p&#39; it navigates to the next or previous chunk and puts a line a=
bove.</div><div>the chunk you are looking at now. We could add more functio=
ns, obviously,</div><div>but even this is useful.</div><div><br></div><div>=
In order to keep rfcdiff as one monolithic file, I&#39;ve written this by m=
aking</div><div>a template file (rfcdiff-tmpl), a JS file, and a merger tha=
t puts them together.</div><div>This allows you to edit the JS locally but =
then combine them for distribution.</div><div><br></div><div>Henrik, is thi=
s a change you would be willing to take? What would you need</div><div>me t=
o do to contribute it?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-Ekr</div=
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In section 6.1.4 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7763#section-6.1.4) in
"Contact information" both links point to

    http://daringfireball.net/%3E%3Ccomments@daringfireball.net

Which is wrong, the should point separately to
    http://daringfireball.net/
and
    mailto:comments@daringfireball.net

respectively.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>In section 6.1.4 (<a href=3D"https://tools.=
ietf.org/html/rfc7763#section-6.1.4">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7763#se=
ction-6.1.4</a>) in &quot;Contact information&quot; both links point to<br>=
<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://daringfireball.net/%3E%3Ccomments@=
daringfireball.net">http://daringfireball.net/%3E%3Ccomments@daringfireball=
.net</a><br><br></div>Which is wrong, the should point separately to<br>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://daringfireball.net/">http://daringfirebal=
l.net/</a><br></div><div>and<br></div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 mailto:<a href=3D"=
mailto:comments@daringfireball.net">comments@daringfireball.net</a><br><br>=
respectively.<br><br></div>Best regards, Andrey Rybak<br><div><div><div><di=
v><div><br><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>

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Hi Eric,

On 2016-03-23 00:38, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> I do a lot of my code reviewing with Rietveld which has the nice feature
> that you can navigate between chunks using 'n' and 'p'. This is very
> convenient on big diffs.
> 
> I've updated rfcdiff to do this and posted the results at:
>    https://github.com/ekr/rfcdiff
> 
> The system is very simple: the diff loads as usual, but when you press
> 'n' or 'p' it navigates to the next or previous chunk and puts a line above.
> the chunk you are looking at now. We could add more functions, obviously,
> but even this is useful.

Cool.  Yes.

> In order to keep rfcdiff as one monolithic file, I've written this by making
> a template file (rfcdiff-tmpl), a JS file, and a merger that puts them
> together.
> This allows you to edit the JS locally but then combine them for
> distribution.
> 
> Henrik, is this a change you would be willing to take?

Sure.

> What would you need me to do to contribute it?

For the primary use case I see, which is the online service, I'd prefer to
serve the JS separately, and have a <script src="..."><script> entry in the
diff html to pull in the script.  Would that work for you?  Or do you think
people like shipping the actual diffs around so much that the JS should be
inlined?

I'm happy to take diffs from you, or to copy from your github-hosted code into
my own repo.  I should put these things up in a public repo, of course, but
there's too much that should be done ...


Best,

	Henrik


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Hi Andrey,

On 2016-03-23 09:04, Andrey Rybak wrote:
> In section 6.1.4 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7763#section-6.1.4) in
> "Contact information" both links point to
> 
>     http://daringfireball.net/%3E%3Ccomments@daringfireball.net
> 
> Which is wrong, the should point separately to
>     http://daringfireball.net/
> and
>     mailto:comments@daringfireball.net
> 
> respectively.

Right.  Corner case in concatenating two consecutive <...> enclosed URLs
when the '>'s have already been converted to '&gt;'.  Working on a fix now.

Thanks for the alert!


Best regards,

	Henrik


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On 23 March 2016 at 23:32, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
> For the primary use case I see, which is the online service, I'd prefer to
> serve the JS separately, and have a <script src="..."><script> entry in the
> diff html to pull in the script.  Would that work for you?  Or do you think
> people like shipping the actual diffs around so much that the JS should be
> inlined?

I see individual files fairly often with offline use.  I have had
plenty of people ask for - and use - a diff option in the makefiles I
maintain.  Enough that <script src="" would have to be an option
rather than a default.  If you are going to split things, wouldn't you
also want to split out CSS?


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Hi Martin,

On 2016-03-23 14:00, Martin Thomson wrote:
> On 23 March 2016 at 23:32, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
>> For the primary use case I see, which is the online service, I'd prefer to
>> serve the JS separately, and have a <script src="..."><script> entry in the
>> diff html to pull in the script.  Would that work for you?  Or do you think
>> people like shipping the actual diffs around so much that the JS should be
>> inlined?
> 
> I see individual files fairly often with offline use.  I have had
> plenty of people ask for - and use - a diff option in the makefiles I
> maintain.  Enough that <script src="" would have to be an option
> rather than a default.  If you are going to split things, wouldn't you
> also want to split out CSS?

I landed on keeping the css inline last time I considered splitting it out,
so from that point of view it would make more sense to be consistent and
keep the JS inline, too.  I'm fine with that.


Best regards,

	Henrik


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On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:32 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>
wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> On 2016-03-23 00:38, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> > I do a lot of my code reviewing with Rietveld which has the nice feature
> > that you can navigate between chunks using 'n' and 'p'. This is very
> > convenient on big diffs.
> >
> > I've updated rfcdiff to do this and posted the results at:
> >    https://github.com/ekr/rfcdiff
> >
> > The system is very simple: the diff loads as usual, but when you press
> > 'n' or 'p' it navigates to the next or previous chunk and puts a line
> above.
> > the chunk you are looking at now. We could add more functions, obviously,
> > but even this is useful.
>
> Cool.  Yes.
>
> > In order to keep rfcdiff as one monolithic file, I've written this by
> making
> > a template file (rfcdiff-tmpl), a JS file, and a merger that puts them
> > together.
> > This allows you to edit the JS locally but then combine them for
> > distribution.
> >
> > Henrik, is this a change you would be willing to take?
>
> Sure.
>
> > What would you need me to do to contribute it?
>
> For the primary use case I see, which is the online service, I'd prefer to
> serve the JS separately, and have a <script src="..."><script> entry in the
> diff html to pull in the script.  Would that work for you?  Or do you think
> people like shipping the actual diffs around so much that the JS should be
> inlined?
>

I don't have a strong opinion. I was trying to match what seemed to be your
preference, which is to have things be inline. The code that I have could
be modified to accommodate both modes.  I think it is important to have the
source code repository have them separate otherwise modifying the JS is
really a PITA.

If we can decide on a canonical location (my Github repo is OK, I guess,
but probably not ideal)  I'll be happy to produce a version which has a
switch which produces either of these modes (and of course includes the JS
embedded in the program).


I'm happy to take diffs from you, or to copy from your github-hosted code
> into
> my own repo.


This is probably easiest. If you want to put your own code up on Github, I
can of course send you a PR.



>   I should put these things up in a public repo, of course, but
> there's too much that should be done ..
>

Yes, yes there is.

-Ekr


>
> Best,
>
>         Henrik
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:32 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:henrik@levkowetz.com" target=3D"_blank">henrik@levkowetz=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Eric,<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
On 2016-03-23 00:38, Eric Rescorla wrote:<br>
&gt; I do a lot of my code reviewing with Rietveld which has the nice featu=
re<br>
&gt; that you can navigate between chunks using &#39;n&#39; and &#39;p&#39;=
. This is very<br>
&gt; convenient on big diffs.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I&#39;ve updated rfcdiff to do this and posted the results at:<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://github.com/ekr/rfcdiff" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/ekr/rfcdiff</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The system is very simple: the diff loads as usual, but when you press=
<br>
&gt; &#39;n&#39; or &#39;p&#39; it navigates to the next or previous chunk =
and puts a line above.<br>
&gt; the chunk you are looking at now. We could add more functions, obvious=
ly,<br>
&gt; but even this is useful.<br>
<br>
</span>Cool.=C2=A0 Yes.<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
&gt; In order to keep rfcdiff as one monolithic file, I&#39;ve written this=
 by making<br>
&gt; a template file (rfcdiff-tmpl), a JS file, and a merger that puts them=
<br>
&gt; together.<br>
&gt; This allows you to edit the JS locally but then combine them for<br>
&gt; distribution.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Henrik, is this a change you would be willing to take?<br>
<br>
</span>Sure.<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
&gt; What would you need me to do to contribute it?<br>
<br>
</span>For the primary use case I see, which is the online service, I&#39;d=
 prefer to<br>
serve the JS separately, and have a &lt;script src=3D&quot;...&quot;&gt;&lt=
;script&gt; entry in the<br>
diff html to pull in the script.=C2=A0 Would that work for you?=C2=A0 Or do=
 you think<br>
people like shipping the actual diffs around so much that the JS should be<=
br>
inlined?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t have a strong opin=
ion. I was trying to match what seemed to be your preference, which is to h=
ave things be inline. The code that I have could be modified to accommodate=
 both modes.=C2=A0 I think it is important to have the source code reposito=
ry have them separate otherwise modifying the JS is really a PITA.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>If we can decide on a canonical location (my Github repo i=
s OK, I guess, but probably not ideal) =C2=A0I&#39;ll be happy to produce a=
 version which has a switch which produces either of these modes (and of co=
urse includes the JS embedded in the program).=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><d=
iv><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I&#39;m happy to take diffs from you, or to copy from your github-hosted co=
de into<br>
my own repo.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is probably easiest. If y=
ou want to put your own code up on Github, I can of course send you a PR.</=
div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=C2=A0 I=
 should put these things up in a public repo, of course, but<br>
there&#39;s too much that should be done ..<br></blockquote><div><br></div>=
<div>Yes, yes there is.</div><div><br></div><div>-Ekr</div><div>=C2=A0</div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Henrik<br>
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On 2016-03-23 14:52, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:32 AM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com=
>
> wrote:
>=20
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> On 2016-03-23 00:38, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>> > I do a lot of my code reviewing with Rietveld which has the nice fea=
ture
>> > that you can navigate between chunks using 'n' and 'p'. This is very=

>> > convenient on big diffs.
>> >
>> > I've updated rfcdiff to do this and posted the results at:
>> >    https://github.com/ekr/rfcdiff
>> >
>> > The system is very simple: the diff loads as usual, but when you pre=
ss
>> > 'n' or 'p' it navigates to the next or previous chunk and puts a lin=
e
>> above.
>> > the chunk you are looking at now. We could add more functions, obvio=
usly,
>> > but even this is useful.
>>
>> Cool.  Yes.
>>
>> > In order to keep rfcdiff as one monolithic file, I've written this b=
y
>> making
>> > a template file (rfcdiff-tmpl), a JS file, and a merger that puts th=
em
>> > together.
>> > This allows you to edit the JS locally but then combine them for
>> > distribution.
>> >
>> > Henrik, is this a change you would be willing to take?
>>
>> Sure.
>>
>> > What would you need me to do to contribute it?
>>
>> For the primary use case I see, which is the online service, I'd prefe=
r to
>> serve the JS separately, and have a <script src=3D"..."><script> entry=
 in the
>> diff html to pull in the script.  Would that work for you?  Or do you =
think
>> people like shipping the actual diffs around so much that the JS shoul=
d be
>> inlined?
>>
>=20
> I don't have a strong opinion. I was trying to match what seemed to be =
your
> preference, which is to have things be inline. The code that I have cou=
ld
> be modified to accommodate both modes.  I think it is important to have=
 the
> source code repository have them separate otherwise modifying the JS is=

> really a PITA.
>=20
> If we can decide on a canonical location (my Github repo is OK, I guess=
,
> but probably not ideal)  I'll be happy to produce a version which has a=

> switch which produces either of these modes (and of course includes the=
 JS
> embedded in the program).
>=20
>=20
> I'm happy to take diffs from you, or to copy from your github-hosted co=
de
>> into
>> my own repo.
>=20
>=20
> This is probably easiest. If you want to put your own code up on Github=
, I
> can of course send you a PR.

I'll start with referencing your repo as an svn:external in my repo, and
update my make file to pull in the javascript when building the rfcdiff
script.  That way, any updates you make can be pulled in by just doing a
'svn update' as part of make'ing a release.

Thanks!

	Henrik


>=20
>=20
>>   I should put these things up in a public repo, of course, but
>> there's too much that should be done ..
>>
>=20
> Yes, yes there is.
>=20
> -Ekr
>=20
>=20
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>         Henrik
>>
>=20
>=20
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Hi,

Following up on the message at =
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I know there=E2=80=99s awareness about this issue (e.g., =
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Hi Tony,

On 2016-03-29 17:42, HANSEN, TONY L wrote:
> There's a errata that keeps appearing from multiple people on one of the HTTP documents. It's due to a bad hyperlink within the HTML rendering of RFC 7540. In the copyright notice, there is "Section 4" text that is erroneously linked to the document's section 4 (instead of section 4.e of the Trust Legal Provisions).
> 
> I don't know what the solution is; hand editing the HTML file and removing the link is one simple solution though.

The html files keep being regenerated when there are status changes.

I've added a fix to rfcmarkup 1.118 which should take care of this.


Best regards,

	Henrik


> Tony Hansen
> 
> ==========
> A comment on the erratum report:
> 
> On 29 March 2016 at 19:14, RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org<mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>> wrote:
> Please correct the link of Section 4.e.
> 
> Actually, this one wins the most reported erratum award.
> 
> This is problem with the tool that decorates the text of RFCs with
> hyperlinks, not the text.
> 
> ========
> From the erratum report:
> 
> Original Text
> -------------
> Copyright Notice
> 
>     Copyright (c) 2015 IETF Trust and the persons identified as the
>     document authors.  All rights reserved.
> 
>     This document is subject to BCP 78 and the IETF Trust's Legal
>     Provisions Relating to IETF Documents
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>     include Simplified BSD License text as described in Section 4.e of
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> 
> Corrected Text
> --------------
> Please correct the link of Section 4.e.
> 
> Notes
> -----
> Section 4.e links to Section 4 in this document, while there is no
> description about BSD License text.
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> 
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