From nobody Tue May 7 11:18:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADE41201F0 for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 11:18:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ti6wOM7130aC for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 11:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A6D41201A8 for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 11:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kduck.mit.edu (24-107-191-124.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com [24.107.191.124]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id x47IIkST025358 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 14:18:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 13:18:46 -0500 From: Benjamin Kaduk To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: <20190507181846.GO19509@kduck.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] finding reviewer name in review objects X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 May 2019 18:18:52 -0000 Hi all, It looks like the recent work on refactoring review objects made it harder to find who did a given review. E.g., at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-netconf-restconf-notif-13-secdir-lc-malhotra-2019-04-11/ there is no "Reviewer name" field, so I either need to look at the "Completed reviews" section that includes a line for the current review object or look in the name/title of the oject/page and hope that the reviewer's surname is in my wetware lookup table. Not a huge deal, but I figured it might be worth noting. Thanks, Ben From nobody Tue May 7 12:24:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB24A120192 for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 12:24:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zPpNhaw-0xIh for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 12:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E516120187 for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 12:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A119B300AA2 for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 15:05:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id SBsv6IyFLU1Z for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 15:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (unknown [138.88.156.37]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2D4213005D8; Tue, 7 May 2019 15:05:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2059FF00-7266-4158-8C05-2D3AC60A0327" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.8\)) Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 15:24:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20190507181846.GO19509@kduck.mit.edu> Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org To: Ben Kaduk References: <20190507181846.GO19509@kduck.mit.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.8) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] finding reviewer name in review objects X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 May 2019 19:24:49 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_2059FF00-7266-4158-8C05-2D3AC60A0327 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ben: Please enter a ticket: = https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/newticket = Thanks, Russ > On May 7, 2019, at 2:18 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > It looks like the recent work on refactoring review objects made it = harder > to find who did a given review. E.g., at > = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-netconf-restconf-notif-13-sec= dir-lc-malhotra-2019-04-11/ > there is no "Reviewer name" field, so I either need to look at the > "Completed reviews" section that includes a line for the current = review > object or look in the name/title of the oject/page and hope that the > reviewer's surname is in my wetware lookup table. >=20 > Not a huge deal, but I figured it might be worth noting. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Ben >=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org --Apple-Mail=_2059FF00-7266-4158-8C05-2D3AC60A0327 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Ben:

Please= enter a ticket: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/newticket

Thanks,
  Russ



On May 7, 2019, at 2:18 PM, Benjamin Kaduk = <kaduk@mit.edu> = wrote:

Hi all,

It looks like the recent = work on refactoring review objects made it harder
to find = who did a given review.  E.g., at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-netconf-restconf-n= otif-13-secdir-lc-malhotra-2019-04-11/
there is no = "Reviewer name" field, so I either need to look at the
"Completed reviews" section that includes a line for the = current review
object or look in the name/title of the = oject/page and hope that the
reviewer's surname is in my = wetware lookup table.

Not a huge deal, but = I figured it might be worth noting.

Thanks,

Ben

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= --Apple-Mail=_2059FF00-7266-4158-8C05-2D3AC60A0327-- From nobody Tue May 7 15:11:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8D012019B for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 15:11:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OuUF2vZp-wWH for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 15:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A84BF12014B for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 15:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:57379 helo=tannat.localdomain) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hO8JA-0000vP-Ue; Tue, 07 May 2019 15:11:33 -0700 To: Benjamin Kaduk , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <20190507181846.GO19509@kduck.mit.edu> From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 00:11:25 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190507181846.GO19509@kduck.mit.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jj7aQMTs8xEOV5qrt1EXLp90RP91hNTJq" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, kaduk@mit.edu X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] finding reviewer name in review objects X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 May 2019 22:11:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --jj7aQMTs8xEOV5qrt1EXLp90RP91hNTJq Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="h8QqK2O6cqEtNrF69cx2eJFsAT1OETg9i"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Benjamin Kaduk , tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] finding reviewer name in review objects References: <20190507181846.GO19509@kduck.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <20190507181846.GO19509@kduck.mit.edu> --h8QqK2O6cqEtNrF69cx2eJFsAT1OETg9i Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ben, On 2019-05-07 20:18, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > It looks like the recent work on refactoring review objects made it har= der > to find who did a given review. E.g., at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-netconf-restconf-notif-13-= secdir-lc-malhotra-2019-04-11/ > there is no "Reviewer name" field, so I either need to look at the > "Completed reviews" section that includes a line for the current review= > object or look in the name/title of the oject/page and hope that the > reviewer's surname is in my wetware lookup table. >=20 > Not a huge deal, but I figured it might be worth noting. Definitely. I've created and applied a patch which adds Review Assignmen= t information to the review document pages, and tweaked the display to matc= h other document status pages. Please have a look and see if this improves things for you. Best regards, Henrik --h8QqK2O6cqEtNrF69cx2eJFsAT1OETg9i-- --jj7aQMTs8xEOV5qrt1EXLp90RP91hNTJq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEifjc5+rnL1MJBcZSTptXS4+7FxoFAlzSAo0ACgkQTptXS4+7 FxqFVA/+O1krRE/1AaC0H2BmO/9AkLWV6FIodJ7WiTgtcuFv9fCU7wyj/TH8pIoH 6U/eScOC/vctvCNW5FTeWKW9c86+Jdol9coqfj4AvSAI/mchQ0wBfzWq30FV2o7s xqgewRxf4uEvz9Rk08Rs4vkqjns5laV6hwO5c+++kYQPAYgPQatjxteV89Sp6r0I F2KbejDyDcXAD/bU5mCNmj/NRTSMjlwsc/7jTYR2/acjrcM2hUn01td3LjW5csgQ LcbSROexnabxs32QfCKqXvSw6nx3O3L0ET3NdoyuMi/BBi5fAZIOnIrIl4Ezt6rT Dy5d6MfIiItPY8IxZdE9Wi7eFEhwC9YD39iwnsbABvN+eBxcy348Ce7pVLRlbpmt nrmC6SaHBJx1FKD9MsV+N48qYUbkMAn57zu7Bh6EHd6To9Tx4qtIqQEviv3M/CbY Q7lyr/gzinzb+Bp7zEXdA/5i2ff5DcSFXrjmFNsED/5xBODvmaK6fQ2N5eWWovGj ciRsUoJLF3DFpHHWiDxfWjQP9NhRcTrVriQJ3J4ycqGsui15a2vDY0CWgA+YGTGl T7B3xiGzasN0XQCF6vC1DVbJH1LE5L1c7fesy0Mgjn9vkkFnB1tOlkkYwmCBJd3v VR7nOdbXRQtGgir7do03hhXJAbdcYFQVbQ7oxsQNi95Tm1XqR1g= =GSwI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jj7aQMTs8xEOV5qrt1EXLp90RP91hNTJq-- From nobody Tue May 7 17:30:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2401200A4 for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 17:30:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WjSwDS7RfK1S for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 17:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAB4812006E for ; Tue, 7 May 2019 17:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kduck.mit.edu (24-107-191-124.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com [24.107.191.124]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id x480UDis030237 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 7 May 2019 20:30:17 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 19:30:13 -0500 From: Benjamin Kaduk To: Henrik Levkowetz Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: <20190508003012.GS19509@kduck.mit.edu> References: <20190507181846.GO19509@kduck.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] finding reviewer name in review objects X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 May 2019 00:30:24 -0000 On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 12:11:25AM +0200, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Ben, > > On 2019-05-07 20:18, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > It looks like the recent work on refactoring review objects made it harder > > to find who did a given review. E.g., at > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-netconf-restconf-notif-13-secdir-lc-malhotra-2019-04-11/ > > there is no "Reviewer name" field, so I either need to look at the > > "Completed reviews" section that includes a line for the current review > > object or look in the name/title of the oject/page and hope that the > > reviewer's surname is in my wetware lookup table. > > > > Not a huge deal, but I figured it might be worth noting. > > Definitely. I've created and applied a patch which adds Review Assignment > information to the review document pages, and tweaked the display to match > other document status pages. > > Please have a look and see if this improves things for you. Indeed, it looks more like what I remember (i.e., good), now -- thank you all for the quick fix! -Ben From nobody Wed May 8 08:30:01 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D62B12029E; Wed, 8 May 2019 08:29:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id REExrkhruoak; Wed, 8 May 2019 08:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qt1-x82a.google.com (mail-qt1-x82a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D61DF12026F; Wed, 8 May 2019 08:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qt1-x82a.google.com with SMTP id r3so13785130qtp.10; Wed, 08 May 2019 08:29:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=mbn71qL3tHD0KSkVIpZKq5ip/JNFnQ83lDDKQ51OLAQ=; b=Go6Fyoi9yTGAU8407aHAuuslULFiZdwHxNh/7h9ZG2wXPRsbGaAm7LkjdFQQj9M9oE ldn0ittS4cP+aO9rle/p7Mw+0tHX70Smf2k8evMVHLEKDYHIKk342mkcIzJ6kGbkKWe4 3aAYIlIyd1HaX9JWwSVgdqY8x7EnIjSNqS6rDbnN8b6oRuzOcl/zQ2GqqDCro2w059Va 0QoLfYGYeoxKr6uvmh//lYl+G/c1ekjbnOuZ0AkUxAidp5JmMKCcyXwB0yW+KCuumWy9 qefHBj68NqWg96IZAgsw5Ds/weR69uxeDz+AN9d2jTZM1aNbNDFMtQQtNazNwqlg28uh /s/g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mbn71qL3tHD0KSkVIpZKq5ip/JNFnQ83lDDKQ51OLAQ=; b=tU7Yb6ykQrh3kR4ly5r6SCZBwmghJRoe4ePFSmHWMhSDZwgVkfWgqAxffdEtbWGSV+ 6NiVFRWZ7BHuIkLJkWE9ear2oUL0EIBeu1LCgu4sKXGBO4RtNWf5a+Z28jU2aEieuRRT UNOCEtpTOwBn69A83LXSssl76ajvWUIYNzRyC6CYHi5GrZU3eQmnF3/hnuKINxCEGXaV j0BvsTN9jXu8Y0wEH19Nffk4oX9jD5D/1xWA01Xzq9SuyY4PHWvp/Euw67o6naF7Go9q +VO3uN9yqH0Zn6UsZFKutOQgFQP81F6TfiOywypDLnb2D7cMEmzjUxv2se2++4v0asqy phUg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXC9qEXu6SVIQ0oeB3jLi/LXRjt4vi22Y75PMPUpemHMCf7Vxup /agpi6Ka9/NO01NfCdiwdDcfM5aU40hMzThG8JZ2LV4i X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxorA7Rs56qOte6oO86GqwttSNnx/xJGZtEK0S57IhcigIL5WMIR0gtx/gzIa4toYr2y/6MfYPtr89NxnZMSrA= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:8c4:: with SMTP id y4mr4318923qth.334.1557329374927; Wed, 08 May 2019 08:29:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <465df686-2543-2b8d-df81-3de036452a16@levkowetz.com> <295f4971-c8b5-aca8-e25f-8a26f949bde2@levkowetz.com> <73C747D7-442B-4AD6-9DB5-4B9209E03B4F@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <73C747D7-442B-4AD6-9DB5-4B9209E03B4F@tzi.org> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 11:29:24 -0400 Message-ID: To: Carsten Bormann Cc: RFC Markdown , Henrik Levkowetz , tools-discuss Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000030de9c0588620036" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [Rfc-markdown] IEEE in bibxml2 vs. bibxml6 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 May 2019 15:29:55 -0000 --00000000000030de9c0588620036 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Carsten, The version of kramdown at https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/experimental.html seems to still be using bibxml2 rather than bibxml6 for IEEE references. For example, I used {{?IEEE.802.1QCD_2015}} and got the error message: .refcache/reference.IEEE.802.1QCD_2015.xml: fetching *** 404 Not Found while fetching https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml2/reference.IEEE.802.1QCD_2= 015.xml *** No such file or directory @ rb_sysopen - .refcache/reference.IEEE.802.1QCD_2015.xml for ${fn} The reference is in bibxml6, see https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml6/reference.IEEE.802.1QCD_2= 015.xml . Thanks, Andy On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 9:53 AM Carsten Bormann wrote: > Kramdown-rfc2629 version 1.2.11 now searches bibxml6 for IEEE.* reference= s > such as: > > IEEE.754.1985: > > There should be no user-visible change for IEEE.* references that already > worked. > But new ones should now be working: those that have been added to bibxml6= , > but not to bibxml2. See for yourself: > > http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml6/ > > As always, update via > > gem update kramdown-rfc2629 > > (add a sudo if needed on your platform), or simply `gem update` to update > all rubygems. > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > > On Feb 27, 2019, at 14:45, Henrik Levkowetz > wrote: > > > > > > On 2019-02-27 14:38, Carsten Bormann wrote: > >> On Feb 27, 2019, at 14:34, Henrik Levkowetz > wrote: > >>> > >>> For now, I'll happily copy the bibxml2 IEEE entries to bibxml6. > >>> > >>> Shall I do so? > >> > >> Please do, assuming there are no conflicts. > >> Then I=E2=80=99ll switch to bibxml6 for IEEE.* references in the next = version > of kramdown-rfc. > > > > Ok, done. > > > > Best, > > Henrik > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rfc-markdown mailing list > Rfc-markdown@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-markdown > --00000000000030de9c0588620036 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Carsten= ,

The version of kramdown at=C2=A0https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/exper= imental.html seems to still be using bibxml2 rather than bibxml6 for IE= EE references. For example, I used {{?IEEE.802.1QCD_2015}} and got the erro= r message:
.refcache/reference.IE=
EE.802.1QCD_2015.xml: fetching
*** 404 Not Found while fetching https://xml2rfc.tools.=
ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml2/reference.IEEE.802.1QCD_2015.xml
*** No such file or directory @ rb_sysopen - .refcache/reference.IEEE.802.1=
QCD_2015.xml for ${fn}
The reference is in bibxml6, see=C2=A0https://xml= 2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml6/reference.IEEE.802.1QCD_2015.xml= .

Thanks,
Andy









On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 9:53 AM= Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> w= rote:
Kramdown-r= fc2629 version 1.2.11 now searches bibxml6 for IEEE.* references such as:
=C2=A0 IEEE.754.1985:

There should be no user-visible change for IEEE.* references that already w= orked.
But new ones should now be working: those that have been added to bibxml6, = but not to bibxml2.=C2=A0 See for yourself:

http://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml6/

As always, update via

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 gem update kramdown-rfc2629

(add a sudo if needed on your platform), or simply `gem update` to update a= ll rubygems.

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten

> On Feb 27, 2019, at 14:45, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 2019-02-27 14:38, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 2019, at 14:34, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:=
>>>
>>> For now, I'll happily copy the bibxml2 IEEE entries to bib= xml6.
>>>
>>> Shall I do so?
>>
>> Please do, assuming there are no conflicts.
>> Then I=E2=80=99ll switch to bibxml6 for IEEE.* references in the n= ext version of kramdown-rfc.
>
> Ok, done.
>
> Best,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Henrik
>

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Malis" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [Rfc-markdown] IEEE in bibxml2 vs. bibxml6 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 May 2019 15:50:17 -0000 On May 8, 2019, at 17:29, Andrew G. Malis wrote: >=20 > The version of kramdown at = https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/experimental.html seems to still be using = bibxml2 rather than bibxml6 for IEEE references. For example, I used = {{?IEEE.802.1QCD_2015}} and got the error message: Right, that says: Hi Henrik, can you do a `gem update`? 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Malis" Cc: RFC Markdown , tools-discuss Message-ID: <49135995-656e-b622-7c0a-e959aed86c91@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [Rfc-markdown] IEEE in bibxml2 vs. bibxml6 References: <465df686-2543-2b8d-df81-3de036452a16@levkowetz.com> <295f4971-c8b5-aca8-e25f-8a26f949bde2@levkowetz.com> <73C747D7-442B-4AD6-9DB5-4B9209E03B4F@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: --At4r4hdPX9xNqlNToJqT6D2koSACoWUfa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carsten, On 2019-05-08 17:50, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On May 8, 2019, at 17:29, Andrew G. Malis wrote: >>=20 >> The version of kramdown at https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/experimental= =2Ehtml seems to still be using bibxml2 rather than bibxml6 for IEEE refe= rences. For example, I used {{?IEEE.802.1QCD_2015}} and got the error mes= sage: >=20 > Right, that says: > >=20 > Hi Henrik, can you do a `gem update`? Done! 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Malis" Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 12:30:48 -0400 Message-ID: To: Henrik Levkowetz Cc: Carsten Bormann , RFC Markdown , tools-discuss Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c620e2058862db7e" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [Rfc-markdown] IEEE in bibxml2 vs. bibxml6 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 May 2019 16:31:16 -0000 --000000000000c620e2058862db7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Henrik, Thanks! Cheers, Andy On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 12:04 PM Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Carsten, > > On 2019-05-08 17:50, Carsten Bormann wrote: > > On May 8, 2019, at 17:29, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > >> > >> The version of kramdown at > https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/experimental.html seems to still be using > bibxml2 rather than bibxml6 for IEEE references. For example, I used > {{?IEEE.802.1QCD_2015}} and got the error message: > > > > Right, that says: > > > > > > Hi Henrik, can you do a `gem update`? > > Done! > > Henrik > > > --000000000000c620e2058862db7e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Henrik,

Thanks!

Cheers,
Andy


On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 12:04 P= M Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levko= wetz.com> wrote:
Hi Carsten,

On 2019-05-08 17:50, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On May 8, 2019, at 17:29, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The version of kramdown at https://xml2rfc.= tools.ietf.org/experimental.html seems to still be using bibxml2 rather= than bibxml6 for IEEE references. For example, I used {{?IEEE.802.1QCD_201= 5}} and got the error message:
>
> Right, that says:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0<!-- generated by https://github.com/cab= o/kramdown-rfc2629 version 1.2.10 -->
>
> Hi Henrik, can you do a `gem update`?

Done!

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Henrik


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X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 13:43:30 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain We have a comment on a document asking us to make the reference to BCP38 explicit. Right now we have: In particular, the RPL root SHOULD do BCP38 () processing on the source addresses of all IP and: We tried to do: but this does not work. Not such file exists. Is there some other way to get this right? -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAlzaxf0ACgkQgItw+93Q 3WW3FAf/TgksJ+KriY0fowgNtJwaTKBZf0+YVDMZdxPTP720uc3C3G+21JHAPifo RsET6KVO2YRQiXJhOIFsSqly7iHKZPuYtw/N53nhTSockpZOAcJYXrZBV1pQkrsI hETfm/gtKKLxizPplplWMLNDzAhhVJDpJIiRM2Z/C9+HeERCdt38dGlcI/90vU9F 9i6uZdi5Fkj3njWwGcY1U2dlw/+UzFXm1ibMD93DncojqJbBsrR7BsUNQEnDgTkX /CEVif+8w1BA+tlNirHOeB9sAYQxblco3ELhQwnYvWKUiCIVZJJoZE03j8pOWMax sIbAf8aKwxyF2WUY6kQOhkcpnpYpKA== =GAA2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Tue May 14 06:55:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D8412012A for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 06:55:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=gmx.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z6Qm8fG6_9an for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 06:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C201120124 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 06:55:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1557842099; bh=ytdqVsekoFTqAtHjSOYHgP4DuSNsasWWAOgy80TKnVM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=NpJbNEIYFjZuZ6BW0n3w8fb7Pi3dYS7WVWXcSKFtS2XkR2nX5ksETtWxAMMzMogaR fJzMa8tQhhuvvZt3472AjrZNz/HhksY/kpJK3EPRAxO2ozeUPz2eI7+TxOlWOJoETv 3kdMhkunzAwiVFymQuwQF4f2VR3szGt4kCIycgPk= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.34] ([217.91.35.233]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MGz1f-1hUj0i2txT-00E9aJ; Tue, 14 May 2019 15:54:59 +0200 To: Michael Richardson , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <25385.1557841405@localhost> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <9faee054-7216-77da-3fe4-cf788c1dfd8d@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 15:54:59 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <25385.1557841405@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:LWC/NsvNYCwhg52bCLdGCWgaiNhUjrSg4s2rvSmLD0Ywdxb4xyb 2WVUZ1E7072HLvCm+qy+QfPpNffhW7SGxlG3gk/0FoFYR2qyHg9gx+eA5twyz7AI/1Jr0aE kKXWvS7oZGf+T0LN719Jc6mp/izjtW2AlxaT5nA3RfoKhpvFL3vTc06ViQJphdV+s+dgx6j lVUymjddKWfO+D10uC3gw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:JNBzRHCSeUU=:ZBe1YA8A6Oc5cYHKC9cdYz 8TovGQetLEe2vmbFcMdboHJfwDpjvI0NIu/h+I07Rn6h0xMK36FRhp7o/JRMmU4MYHcl6YRjr SvasxBiKj63ZSOpVGcmL/4qs9gYZWydC7UX7iUd3dT2LwB/vnRK066YOrvvqKPojLWQUONRhg E4QUR0yJ3TNMSgeCOBuTlJxHyVgdoQ7Cf0tRTfL/7x0+BeY3yCNvc2+mHZj05pZmwjhgVB1HY HsAlWij1ej/4DKdD6QgQ+PUWUgtD6aWBAZ2v4bgryMfONMkaVh4J6PccNjOAxQAQYx36xL4lD hL1ILC8ZYj9FlljQRS0YT8Xt+Vh2fw1FBefnVRFrA+uqwG2IlCiEtuXLdZJT0xXUgOSTjrhJQ rYj2oPLNo2lwYOwV1oiVO7xEia7cpmgpcdBrV0jAbpx4u4KlSwHh1NztZ+9aHOEgEJYwNuNps XW3vhaqhMGD+XbKmyXWAq1E2ZUzqhE9uu/RVLQ2RPsBSTb97LjUXAR1yMbZtvvtlc38EGkcYO LfZJjyeXI5LEXVgR6QxaD22mSaV4f4mgsGPzq5Y5GtCpi50O57y61guELSdgVozVVBBH7V+0l IgM94tGQQN+2+QskgN2mvo1onI9AEEyJ/Hw5IyVKpZ1esXl/ctmuxVWXHSJrh6y/+JqOpASIW hchdJ8iBjaJSM5wpCWXljNzy1RFTl8jItOHpvO9HO48PxoY+cfnjpjOey1E1gWLYEZ588OfaS ufHxByPVCrkFB5II2Krr4r4307TOa54nJsypVqi6qHAa1gH5evIyugSpNunFZLh7tfE1/nn2Y jMFDzrBF3BdYTkKxklp0IPZ6Uvr888Z9+E/HP3MWhKKf4LwQxu/QWF+25VbUfEJb/FKxSrsjw RpA3+amqXz4xms87iUHJ4bte1/iF7s8oK6//DyoncV3+utTI9zCkFjQQ2JGS8jwZ+2IGKgYxe TDwd9TqtNgg== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] how to reference BCPs (such as BCP38)? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 13:55:13 -0000 On 14.05.2019 15:43, Michael Richardson wrote: > > We have a comment on a document asking us to make the reference to BCP38 > explicit. Right now we have: > > In particular, the RPL root SHOULD do BCP38 ( target=3D"RFC2827" />) processing on the source addresses o= f all IP > > and: > > > > We tried to do: > > > but this does not work. Not such file exists. Is there some other way = to > get this right? > ... Just paste the contents of into your document and change xref/target and reference/anchor to "BCP38". Best regards, Julian From nobody Tue May 14 06:58:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B63D12011D for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 06:58:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O_CTSon7psYa for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 06:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CB8812011F for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 06:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:50425 helo=tannat.localdomain) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hQXwn-0004Fq-8f; Tue, 14 May 2019 06:58:25 -0700 To: Michael Richardson , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <25385.1557841405@localhost> From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <47932e86-50d1-1cca-9b99-3b706c3f1ebe@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 15:58:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <25385.1557841405@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cFw2fJ423DcvBbh6MVIs7j5qM9vHn88gq" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] how to reference BCPs (such as BCP38)? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 13:58:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --cFw2fJ423DcvBbh6MVIs7j5qM9vHn88gq Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="wKt1EugQpiRFSh3xqEaaiuHNLKwhrAO92"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Michael Richardson , tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: <47932e86-50d1-1cca-9b99-3b706c3f1ebe@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] how to reference BCPs (such as BCP38)? References: <25385.1557841405@localhost> In-Reply-To: <25385.1557841405@localhost> --wKt1EugQpiRFSh3xqEaaiuHNLKwhrAO92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Michael, On 2019-05-14 15:43, Michael Richardson wrote: >=20 > We have a comment on a document asking us to make the reference to BCP3= 8 > explicit. Right now we have: >=20 > In particular, the RPL root SHOULD do BCP38 ( target=3D"RFC2827" />) processing on the source addresses o= f all IP >=20 > and: > >=20 >=20 > We tried to do: > >=20 > but this does not work. Not such file exists. Is there some other way= to > get this right? Umm. I think you'll have to construct the entry yourself, fo= r now. Eventually, we should be able to build reference BCP entries for al= l BCPs, using where necessary; but that will only work wit= h vocabulary v3. I suspect the lack of is what's behind n= o autogenerated BCP entries. 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X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 14:11:50 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Julian Reschke wrote: >> We have a comment on a document asking us to make the reference to BCP38 >> explicit. Right now we have: >> >> In particular, the RPL root SHOULD do BCP38 (> target="RFC2827" />) processing on the source addresses of all IP >> >> and: >> >> >> >> We tried to do: >> >> >> but this does not work. Not such file exists. Is there some other way to >> get this right? >> ... > Just paste the contents of > > into your document and change xref/target and reference/anchor to "BCP38". Yeah, okay. I was hoping for something else. done. -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAlzazJ8ACgkQgItw+93Q 3WVRLQf+JOEakFhcuCKEBTREHWsl4+TrQuNWSecgU5VnUhi2jy7QmjNnSuqR51/t 9gCOIkROhdZFX3kLHdy9doQQIyiTkxz0mJ19i4meNoMryd4wFYdetXR1UpD2H781 UlHWrcSJEs7jlEySV0j21xDDgabUtjD4PmQJm860Iddw76V/zg5l6D1n+c1GivS7 49EHhTYyra4j/OfgDXeKZORRj6i1pRmzbtAYvogwOIfvKwXygDUowmgxECy2NMV/ y4kGHOdlec7/ytLTu1t7nABY+8StM08B9eNqFW3SvGPMuK+QC7o5/t75wq08tnH8 Ry1je5vO83RU/ZQ4dHcArChfk0bMXw== =dMhL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Tue May 14 07:21:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9BF12013D for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 07:21:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6L5wcMpxjfI7 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 07:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 171AA120162 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 07:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eduroam-pool6-0651.wlan.uni-bremen.de (eduroam-pool6-0651.wlan.uni-bremen.de [134.102.26.139]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 453KcZ5Mhgz10Nn; Tue, 14 May 2019 16:21:34 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <25385.1557841405@localhost> Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 16:21:34 +0200 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 579536492.3844759-04c9d61aaeaaf900f3c62c656f752ad3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <992A21CD-1C8A-458C-8708-92B0F4141094@tzi.org> References: <25385.1557841405@localhost> To: Michael Richardson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] how to reference BCPs (such as BCP38)? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 14:21:54 -0000 With kramdown-rfc, you get to choose the label: normative: BCP38: RFC2827 (You need to set stand_alone: true to make this work in the current version of kramdown-rfc, but you=E2=80=99= ll want that anyway.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > On May 14, 2019, at 15:43, Michael Richardson = wrote: >=20 > Signed PGP part >=20 > We have a comment on a document asking us to make the reference to = BCP38 > explicit. Right now we have: >=20 > In particular, the RPL root SHOULD do BCP38 ( target=3D"RFC2827" />) processing on the source addresses = of all IP >=20 > and: > >=20 >=20 > We tried to do: > >=20 > but this does not work. Not such file exists. Is there some other = way to > get this right? >=20 > -- > Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works > -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D- >=20 >=20 From nobody Tue May 14 08:50:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA52120123 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 08:50:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vGnl-U-vmuIe for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 08:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E00B6120105 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 08:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2:56b2:3ff:fe0b:d84]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACC13826E; Tue, 14 May 2019 11:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id 7246EFF6; Tue, 14 May 2019 11:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5F7AA4; Tue, 14 May 2019 11:49:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Carsten Bormann cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <992A21CD-1C8A-458C-8708-92B0F4141094@tzi.org> References: <25385.1557841405@localhost> <992A21CD-1C8A-458C-8708-92B0F4141094@tzi.org> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 11:49:59 -0400 Message-ID: <31565.1557848999@localhost> Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] how to reference BCPs (such as BCP38)? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 15:50:04 -0000 Carsten Bormann wrote: > With kramdown-rfc, you get to choose the label: > normative: > BCP38: RFC2827 So, then I reference {{BCP38}}? This document predates kramdown... so it's pre XML :-( It should have been done already. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ From nobody Tue May 14 11:32:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5C61200B4 for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 11:32:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 60UsxEhMahQO for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 11:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDFD512001B for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 11:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.106] (p54A6CC75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.166.204.117]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 453RB7628zz10H4; Tue, 14 May 2019 20:32:31 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <31565.1557848999@localhost> Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 20:32:30 +0200 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 579544314.770465-f07254469959604ac3a9d50390d82ec6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1639F25A-3E8C-4FE3-8A2C-4C0F44BFCB36@tzi.org> References: <25385.1557841405@localhost> <992A21CD-1C8A-458C-8708-92B0F4141094@tzi.org> <31565.1557848999@localhost> To: Michael Richardson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] how to reference BCPs (such as BCP38)? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 18:32:36 -0000 On May 14, 2019, at 17:49, Michael Richardson wrote: >=20 > Carsten Bormann wrote: >> With kramdown-rfc, you get to choose the label: >=20 >> normative: >> BCP38: RFC2827 >=20 > So, then I reference {{BCP38}}? Yes. > This document predates kramdown=E2=80=A6=20 I don=E2=80=99t think so=E2=80=A6 (My records say useofrplinfo is from 2015. =20 Kramdown-rfc was first published as a gem in Jan 2011. I just never campaigned it, because I wrote it for myself and my = co-authors.) > so it=E2=80=99s pre XML :-( I can help with upconverting XML to markdown, by the way. > It should have been done already. Talking about useofrplinfo, I think one could say that=E2=80=A6 (RFC 6550 should never have been published without that information.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Tue May 14 22:28:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C7012027F for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 22:28:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 426w7V-Pk14g for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 22:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0BDB12027E for ; Tue, 14 May 2019 22:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.106] (p54A6CC75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.166.204.117]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 453jl13CjYzyjq; Wed, 15 May 2019 07:28:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 579590906.566433-9af16d693e8cef482b64babd0c626227 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 07:28:28 +0200 Message-Id: <2FA9E921-3C89-4400-B47B-5889AA18A140@tzi.org> To: tools-discuss X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Bibxml7: anchor normalization, xml2rfc: caching with anchors X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 05:28:34 -0000 I just tried to work around a problem in kramdown-rfc=E2=80=99s = =E2=80=9Cstand_alone: false=E2=80=9D mode (this is where kramdown-rfc = doesn=E2=80=99t do the reference handling by itself but instead = generates entity declarations like it were 1986). I noticed that = https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1145_12= 82427.1282421.xml?anchor=3Dfoo generates Hmm, ID/IDREF are case-sensitive in XML, so this doesn=E2=80=99t quite = work for an . =E2=9E=94 bug1 Independent of what anchor I specify, xml2rfc creates a cache file = called reference.DOI.10.1145_1282427.1282421.xml So if I have another document that does=20 = https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1145_12= 82427.1282421.xml?anchor=3Dbar Xml2rfc still uses the cache entry with=20 =E2=9E=94 bug2 Bug 1 actually has another interesting facet: = https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1145_12= 82427.1282421.xml?anchor=3DDOI.10.1145_637201.637236 creates Whoa, what happened to my dots? =E2=9E=94 bug1b So can we make anchor normalization on the bibxml server less = aggressive? No upcasing (bug1), no removal of valid ID/IDREF characters (bug1b). Also, we=E2=80=99d need to fix the caching in xml2rfc (bug2). (Kramdown-rfc=E2=80=99s [1.2.12, unreleased] cache file names for URLs = with anchors currently look like this: reference.DOI.10.1145_1282427.1282421--anchor=3Dfoo.xml ) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Wed May 15 03:54:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81BBD120047 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 03:54:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9Ck3BDuDPbGM for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 03:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75AF212002E for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 03:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.106] (p54A6CC75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.166.204.117]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 453rzR0Fj2z14S0; Wed, 15 May 2019 12:54:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 579610482.679225-511352557ba5a1d19dc96a363907e1a3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 12:54:44 +0200 Message-Id: To: tools-discuss X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] .ics files for interims? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 10:54:47 -0000 We just announced 12 future virtual interims in the CoRE WG. Is there an easy way to get the .ics files for these? (The search term ics gets a LOT of hits on site:ietf.org ;-) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Wed May 15 04:19:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED54120098 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:19:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NJOkUgK4yQ16 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2D1612004B for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:53807 helo=tannat.localdomain) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hQrwl-00031W-5m; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:19:44 -0700 To: Carsten Bormann , tools-discuss References: <2FA9E921-3C89-4400-B47B-5889AA18A140@tzi.org> Cc: Tony Hansen From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <72f07a93-3979-1707-3fbc-0e2f562b1555@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 13:19:21 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2FA9E921-3C89-4400-B47B-5889AA18A140@tzi.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="O39NxQ0aVGSn4R2RU0Qvm498GcUUMOG5w" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tony@att.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, cabo@tzi.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Bibxml7: anchor normalization, xml2rfc: caching with anchors X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 11:19:48 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --O39NxQ0aVGSn4R2RU0Qvm498GcUUMOG5w Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="qbDXbCJSiHjpdGPSTACJRG1CWRHAbbKAF"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Carsten Bormann , tools-discuss Cc: Tony Hansen Message-ID: <72f07a93-3979-1707-3fbc-0e2f562b1555@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Bibxml7: anchor normalization, xml2rfc: caching with anchors References: <2FA9E921-3C89-4400-B47B-5889AA18A140@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <2FA9E921-3C89-4400-B47B-5889AA18A140@tzi.org> --qbDXbCJSiHjpdGPSTACJRG1CWRHAbbKAF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carsten, I just checked to see who's the bibxml7 script author, and from what I ca= n see it's Tony's script. Adding Cc: Tony. Regards, Henrik On 2019-05-15 07:28, Carsten Bormann wrote: > I just tried to work around a problem in kramdown-rfc=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9C= stand_alone: false=E2=80=9D mode (this is where kramdown-rfc doesn=E2=80=99= t do the reference handling by itself but instead generates entity declar= ations like it were 1986). >=20 > I noticed that >=20 > https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1145= _1282427.1282421.xml?anchor=3Dfoo >=20 > generates >=20 > >=20 > Hmm, ID/IDREF are case-sensitive in XML, so this doesn=E2=80=99t quite = work for an . > =E2=9E=94 bug1 >=20 > Independent of what anchor I specify, xml2rfc creates a cache file call= ed >=20 > reference.DOI.10.1145_1282427.1282421.xml >=20 > So if I have another document that does=20 >=20 > https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1145= _1282427.1282421.xml?anchor=3Dbar >=20 > Xml2rfc still uses the cache entry with=20 >=20 > >=20 > =E2=9E=94 bug2 >=20 > Bug 1 actually has another interesting facet: >=20 > https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml7/reference.DOI.10.1145= _1282427.1282421.xml?anchor=3DDOI.10.1145_637201.637236 >=20 > creates >=20 > >=20 > Whoa, what happened to my dots? >=20 > =E2=9E=94 bug1b >=20 > So can we make anchor normalization on the bibxml server less aggressiv= e? > No upcasing (bug1), no removal of valid ID/IDREF characters (bug1b). >=20 > Also, we=E2=80=99d need to fix the caching in xml2rfc (bug2). > (Kramdown-rfc=E2=80=99s [1.2.12, unreleased] cache file names for URLs = with anchors currently look like this: > reference.DOI.10.1145_1282427.1282421--anchor=3Dfoo.xml > ) >=20 > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >=20 --qbDXbCJSiHjpdGPSTACJRG1CWRHAbbKAF-- --O39NxQ0aVGSn4R2RU0Qvm498GcUUMOG5w Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEifjc5+rnL1MJBcZSTptXS4+7FxoFAlzb9bkACgkQTptXS4+7 FxoItA//WrRsF75mEzoZMtOIihQQ2rzBd04+RSfH+p724byz/coFXxIH9SwLEyUZ Uix2zZNuv3+BM/fYBvSDmAmxwe2zAKfubYL9iyLF44jbwo4qoBPL+50vd34zIgL5 g+tPPuTP6mW99RJqOzfaRTXpSOvBpmb0D5BIPmda3UvOD5tzdVQZD5NW4IeTUAEZ 9kW/gXSYT7+jKAicSBnPWz5dERs95c2UEr0zWmzMVGFdB097MVpurgGZE5J+Y0Cs QDRfObklhA0Tsb3kqP3gzrG3BR0kKeu+U1CcOADzwXsase5b5ZO1kdajZoxoBBEH LHTVOMbPzFu09eNXmQIqRxjNmk0c8zcTJ6f/dbcxylUGBMOlfK/HLI9Gio87rNfg gwolYTcULkfn1mIuQ4AxYHcy/n2k4YEyTxen9WxLwKAM/7z0yGL6yNwSy8UT5/Z0 VcA0EGc5CaaT0BBWB7XaBaoqIrUVcmmFM6hvtQbYo65ewt1Ag9AWoyxw/f01MLe3 A09OkBvStPHVUYWT9UB57pnDthzJznUeSwIGUP5vIao3fWmFsDDLuBGh4rf6tsVq qbmyWmY6ZgPlt640jXneugFt78hgkXYKBtbvn1ga3lyIrVSctTfPllxQSz7Z+ZUf ozD9TKf8sP0ZWhBY4qya+8kYwdQyTNpjytx7t/SW1hlr03LZUFQ= =fKWP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --O39NxQ0aVGSn4R2RU0Qvm498GcUUMOG5w-- From nobody Wed May 15 04:41:51 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FC31200F4 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:41:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2og6uOvpLkk8 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 055F712004C for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.106] (p54A6CC75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.166.204.117]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 453t1j0XCKz14R0; Wed, 15 May 2019 13:41:45 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 13:41:44 +0200 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 579613302.318382-6e0a6fdbdcc701382832d029ec107954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <62F2E82E-EDC5-46AB-AF61-294DD2CE5B3D@tzi.org> References: To: tools-discuss X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] .ics files for interims? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 11:41:50 -0000 Oh, that was too easy. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.ics?filters=3Dcore Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > On May 15, 2019, at 12:54, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > We just announced 12 future virtual interims in the CoRE WG. > Is there an easy way to get the .ics files for these? > (The search term ics gets a LOT of hits on site:ietf.org ;-) >=20 > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >=20 >=20 From nobody Wed May 15 04:48:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3356B1200F4 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:48:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0_EzJFE_Fmhp for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3A1B120043 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:54024 helo=tannat.localdomain) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hQsOa-0008Si-0R; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:48:28 -0700 To: Carsten Bormann , tools-discuss References: From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 13:48:20 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="t0pnS6jdUOpeEm1OtqVwd4Vcd2Ve1DIEU" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, cabo@tzi.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] .ics files for interims? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 11:48:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --t0pnS6jdUOpeEm1OtqVwd4Vcd2Ve1DIEU Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="i69TSCbsmo9O9eBLH5jDnkhJVFKIlCt8U"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Carsten Bormann , tools-discuss Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] .ics files for interims? References: In-Reply-To: --i69TSCbsmo9O9eBLH5jDnkhJVFKIlCt8U Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carsten, On 2019-05-15 12:54, Carsten Bormann wrote: > We just announced 12 future virtual interims in the CoRE WG. > Is there an easy way to get the .ics files for these? > (The search term ics gets a LOT of hits on site:ietf.org ;-) This turned out to be a fairly easy fix. I've applied a patch to add these to the group [Meetings] tab; please check that this is what you desired: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/core/meetings/ Best regards, Henrik --i69TSCbsmo9O9eBLH5jDnkhJVFKIlCt8U-- --t0pnS6jdUOpeEm1OtqVwd4Vcd2Ve1DIEU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEifjc5+rnL1MJBcZSTptXS4+7FxoFAlzb/IQACgkQTptXS4+7 FxqSihAAqxQYTLmULyJDjyR86+pDVOGBp3aIYzmVY2VIdQl+A7TTfrMT9aeiv0U/ DazVZVhKmUALHVEo23AFxtAMzdgB947WS73qeFyJWzCOlMdbTEpzM1jblPMEwmr7 lqfUt1X7JZrqwnNMs/s1bbenDiLUlpEf+dzXx4EMyL4Y3dTXx8O04yx7y9RXZeLu Jym7dnor3AWyZswPtdmVhY/iSXS0/2BaVPIi/wP/hKZvHfQyi7mXGDbRwnXY3Gnm rpPekbx3rOnPdVY5ZdSNsi5E85FPnFq1JGmxLrgFz4ehS7BXRA9/+Wk5EMCdCsYk HYG9b8KS0tDj+VX6PpxS1UyFX687H4oNCaJBHtDL7PsjJrNBMO4r9mnz7w0+7/Vf oK861uglFpyfLdnyM99h+pxFhIubrMas6DyzM1tYAvguui0jqsAed5HCTykWbcVX deN2ko8j1vmXD4focwG1gkMCGj6pP5VvTU5Nj88//fLOFoi4+OVplOLNV/UELlVh Fm9d4HJ/46DpbU/szQFVqQwdWdelew1b5uYbxEgZH5aZ/fiHt8HMoGNSeo7hiMLP +HI/wK5JIWHDECdKw/GAQxHTCoRanjnngLiLXRbCNe3AwCnBcJOuUdi+IG6+fUQz gXBJqL10y4EGjDZqqLabBq9g/14Eo7mCT5M5L1Nhn+SYhXcKKfk= =TmJ5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --t0pnS6jdUOpeEm1OtqVwd4Vcd2Ve1DIEU-- From nobody Wed May 15 04:51:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A981200F8 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:51:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sRHdKOQlKcR9 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95322120033 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:54045 helo=tannat.localdomain) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hQsRI-0002vR-Vj; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:51:17 -0700 To: Carsten Bormann , tools-discuss References: <62F2E82E-EDC5-46AB-AF61-294DD2CE5B3D@tzi.org> From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: <8a1566a9-862f-b9d9-89d8-8ebde7293f2e@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 13:51:09 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <62F2E82E-EDC5-46AB-AF61-294DD2CE5B3D@tzi.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sWh81AKtsShVw6CEb4nFjSwLeagIrDWt8" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, cabo@tzi.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] .ics files for interims? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 11:51:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --sWh81AKtsShVw6CEb4nFjSwLeagIrDWt8 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="qT5n2GH1nfLIsn9Vd7QeBkv12e0JRcwc2"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Carsten Bormann , tools-discuss Message-ID: <8a1566a9-862f-b9d9-89d8-8ebde7293f2e@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] .ics files for interims? References: <62F2E82E-EDC5-46AB-AF61-294DD2CE5B3D@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <62F2E82E-EDC5-46AB-AF61-294DD2CE5B3D@tzi.org> --qT5n2GH1nfLIsn9Vd7QeBkv12e0JRcwc2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carsten, On 2019-05-15 13:41, Carsten Bormann wrote: > Oh, that was too easy. >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.ics?filters=3Dcore Heh. You used the 'Customize' dropdown on the 'Upcoming Meetings' page, I guess? Henrik > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >=20 >=20 >> On May 15, 2019, at 12:54, Carsten Bormann wrote: >>=20 >> We just announced 12 future virtual interims in the CoRE WG. >> Is there an easy way to get the .ics files for these? >> (The search term ics gets a LOT of hits on site:ietf.org ;-) >>=20 >> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >>=20 >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>=20 >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >>=20 >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >=20 --qT5n2GH1nfLIsn9Vd7QeBkv12e0JRcwc2-- --sWh81AKtsShVw6CEb4nFjSwLeagIrDWt8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEifjc5+rnL1MJBcZSTptXS4+7FxoFAlzb/S0ACgkQTptXS4+7 FxpASQ/+J6gA97w9ExUBogSCsr4ETq6ItZ+JFT9FTHc55KVt8Dk+luUn52lkm7yp UyDj98xKAnWHO3eHq7i7VThlJzhWaKphLGdaN7oV1UyN+/xgF9n/gxi0r8n5IDBB ElSqISV23CPyw11LcTk45unu3IFYxr6r52pVuigQhepd2pOx/OPckHG9ETHPfEZe m3xrKv8jv+vbEkPmdOT3jXuCQvfTKOpIcuyePfDDdQRnhhTyM3WCAe0SmYDvV3Qj +S3W8WKZ84cmpZ/ZJ+vZZ6X8U0IFUb9EcDwNaiU4SKngINHu8WQahGoMBxh1wtg1 UYQg6czHb0dsruzqo6jYrnZZZvfr91JChSnpMokFXAwLlNP3Pem5O9xwF+50//05 L0SkJfkZ3ocz09f4ffBXhrbTJS7pAxhK0ZuebSFZBjaCGmQM3t8UuUFNAJGsKfgI YLEBV0blRMRakI1VUEOPDMQA61+sTtOzRaSTzx3K05UhrHlUWxErDidfnFJgTTb4 a9ZlHwutHd6iyElUV0Yol+FMMXJkuBkgoLYJwDhnS9pVFqX3EKuqIJzmOxHKfKA+ fds8nBGt/6Zk48NV10YuVJeAXSt0UVaB1/+K5LyNKaKGitkcPN5Ih7/s/2nN9GJ/ C3zZr2tPByoUxSXdTQCS7hBvSJwDSNqgkrIXLwYdRvQLv+IBokk= =mTCO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sWh81AKtsShVw6CEb4nFjSwLeagIrDWt8-- From nobody Wed May 15 04:54:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DC6120033 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:54:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NKQsOuW0GDLs for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D3FA1200F4 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 04:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.106] (p54A6CC75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.166.204.117]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 453tJB126pz14Qg; Wed, 15 May 2019 13:54:18 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 13:54:17 +0200 Cc: tools-discuss X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 579614037.947045-467d2c9f4ef9570e30733527ce114fb2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Henrik Levkowetz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] .ics files for interims? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 11:54:22 -0000 On May 15, 2019, at 13:48, Henrik Levkowetz = wrote: >=20 > Hi Carsten, >=20 > On 2019-05-15 12:54, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> We just announced 12 future virtual interims in the CoRE WG. >> Is there an easy way to get the .ics files for these? >> (The search term ics gets a LOT of hits on site:ietf.org ;-) >=20 > This turned out to be a fairly easy fix. I've applied a patch > to add these to the group [Meetings] tab; please check that this > is what you desired: >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/core/meetings/ Thanks =E2=80=94 that is the version for people who need to add specific = interims to their calendar, and https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.ics?filters=3Dcore is for people who want them all in one swoop (or even subscribe to = them). Maybe you could add the latter link to the former page = (=E2=80=9CCalendar entries for all upcoming meetings=E2=80=9D)? 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X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 12:09:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --bEDrmUEtul1WwifNxAVDCPgLWEdTmJGjx Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="qSrEAtRVP5BSLKeMaKx7EkVGf2HsAEHSc"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Carsten Bormann Cc: tools-discuss Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] .ics files for interims? References: In-Reply-To: --qSrEAtRVP5BSLKeMaKx7EkVGf2HsAEHSc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2019-05-15 13:54, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On May 15, 2019, at 13:48, Henrik Levkowetz wrot= e: >>=20 >> Hi Carsten, >>=20 >> On 2019-05-15 12:54, Carsten Bormann wrote: >>> We just announced 12 future virtual interims in the CoRE WG. >>> Is there an easy way to get the .ics files for these? >>> (The search term ics gets a LOT of hits on site:ietf.org ;-) >>=20 >> This turned out to be a fairly easy fix. I've applied a patch >> to add these to the group [Meetings] tab; please check that this >> is what you desired: >>=20 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/core/meetings/ >=20 > Thanks =E2=80=94 that is the version for people who need to add specifi= c interims to their calendar, and >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.ics?filters=3Dcore >=20 > is for people who want them all in one swoop (or even subscribe to them= ). Maybe you could add the latter link to the former page (=E2=80=9CCale= ndar entries for all upcoming meetings=E2=80=9D)? Sure. Will do. Henrik --qSrEAtRVP5BSLKeMaKx7EkVGf2HsAEHSc-- --bEDrmUEtul1WwifNxAVDCPgLWEdTmJGjx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEifjc5+rnL1MJBcZSTptXS4+7FxoFAlzcAWgACgkQTptXS4+7 Fxprkw//W5x0v6SddL5zj8aQ3rJ0P0HXLoXZvh/Lx+jsLs+DL9ZeUB0+Rjn3hkjQ 4Hk5YqJHjtIE6hRRV6MtTxpj8GtL5+T1XtmEESTgoNJlky3aMms8CY/mTlP+s2tF Taa8ZAMFUAZ+wbdUzSnjwYiLI4F33uCUa7zZHW0N+JYtzLvfGqvV+R2Dsh2oQyB8 6VAYrDEYmpC3vP7EZzRmC7kmeq4NjNg5Zh2SEDK4OgcLAFLu6+n1lEkvLHPVXtGN e0JBwu+OmMN72BR1TWKIBQ9YdD3n/dgri02Kp3jb9UPlpZYqT540XwKJgktIm+J9 fL8MX2Ghs6/Nwzw4LV4tl0NiScr8BakombARfAx5WyxPraDeCB9cQL/Dw1gCbWyo 39QJfHxMfLgpyJadfyQiIwxALKPBZZn3QOcJgbsr+WJiHZ3OL+4Z6UeHJJr+3Eq6 zLjycsSmJgjMA2QQ2zec7/xWkarC2IR2GpTy65qCAYnFWNDUQ0Hsq59mrFQSQBnA IVem/5/BKrJwzDh9+GqmeJpc0/IQLr0MH+UNpcxF9MUoDDy9qRJGXgx4uaO67VZ/ i1VWusRek3R1xqzIw2eBwPfoW5djl21T9007w25hPndPD+sEiW6F+h1DLdEAm3Ze iOYM3pl8AdKQKGkPTnW2pOu4RY7B2KRq8pw7n8IUMhCqukXqc1s= =fYXK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bEDrmUEtul1WwifNxAVDCPgLWEdTmJGjx-- From nobody Wed May 15 06:58:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB245120240 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 06:58:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aoFIOgjHBbut for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 06:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4464412022E for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 06:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2:56b2:3ff:fe0b:d84]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB5A3826D; Wed, 15 May 2019 09:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id 4028CE3B; Wed, 15 May 2019 09:58:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA81B3D; Wed, 15 May 2019 09:58:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: "Ciavaglia\, Laurent \(Nokia - FR\/Paris-Saclay\)" cc: Carsten Bormann , tools-discuss In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] .ics files for interims? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 13:58:30 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain "Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" wrote: > I would also be keen to have an .ics file available with the > virtual/interim meetings announcements. It's there. It's very useful to know when they all are to avoid conflicts. An annoyance is that the interim meeting ics also includes a bunch of actual in-person meeting details. It's an annoyance once you start populating your meeting week schedule, and you turn off the interim meeting view, and then forget to turn it back on :-) > It would be great to have an automated way (e.g. in the meeting request > form) to link the .ics and webex (or other tools) info. > We are running regular virtual meeting with the NMRG and, even if not > complex, putting all parts together takes time. This is easy... The calendar includes a pointer to your agenda. Your agenda had contain to the webex/etc. info, right? So just upload the info there. This also puts the webex/etc. info squarely under the control of the chairs. LPwan interim is starting in 3 minutes, and I see it point to https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-lpwan-07/materials/agenda-interim-2019-lpwan-07-lpwan-01 and if you look there, you see the webex URL. -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAlzcGvoACgkQgItw+93Q 3WWQ3gf8C+G5Nyzzto2ufPduzYzD1uZCLt72uwstOuQV1AylS1iVKmxHRb0si4GI ktFT0heyfOLUE2DMdRbtgNxhsDIPk5eEY3f44dSa+EsJdBJq0sUnS5CFKfzezVIu nYc6BBG6cmSSX4cVGUrgYB/9+KJpkDZ3y+0gfWSd2016Mj9HhK3WbPGapMHSfze8 USUcqBawdJ8ao4SxXkG1sGJwVlKnk3hZw1Uikx3jf05MFUtzVTvwR0sVlYrxDBs2 Rz48biBpw3WRb1sN+05ODJAyJcG0a/UR2+PRlmpVPHYLAlHZH0Pdc7URFHB4MEOd huwUOHsQUl4gq2gmLyT4hE28SYaGYQ== =7nuc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Wed May 15 09:12:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D0312013B for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 09:12:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nokia.onmicrosoft.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yd6w9yHMKYm0 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 09:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EUR04-DB3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-eopbgr60115.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.107.6.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19B2D120142 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 09:11:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nokia.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-nokia-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=SK+movsBSqaNISOf2l3zSG2fW1BGYoZ0WLPEt0ymfOI=; b=L8DPT9FaOcB/Y2xyXK5FjVzsjavXb81FEkTPjWsDAzI49NugsmLjzHJLSDM4tXgpk8dWKeN2ZOjkk/GttkmhektXoRtw4LjGduiQlUSvkLLcfvfv1dnqj3nTTP8c9GpPCJ21bUhtano0sEa+Ud1NZ4B4efTegNLD2O3AiI771p0= Received: from HE1PR0701MB2380.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.168.124.150) by HE1PR0701MB2252.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.168.35.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.1900.11; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:11:53 +0000 Received: from HE1PR0701MB2380.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::b54f:988b:90b:15ab]) by HE1PR0701MB2380.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::b54f:988b:90b:15ab%3]) with mapi id 15.20.1900.010; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:11:53 +0000 From: "Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" To: Michael Richardson CC: Carsten Bormann , tools-discuss Thread-Topic: [Tools-discuss] .ics files for interims? 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X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 16:12:00 -0000 Thanks Michael. This is not exactly what I was asking for but it gives a different understa= nding. Below for additional comments. --Laurent. > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Richardson > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 15:58 > To: Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) > > Cc: Carsten Bormann ; tools-discuss > Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] .ics files for interims? >=20 >=20 > "Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" wrote: > > I would also be keen to have an .ics file available with the > > virtual/interim meetings announcements. >=20 > It's there. LC: here I was meaning to have the .ics file as an attachment to the e-mail= generated when the meeting is announced. Then I can directly click on it a= nd include in my calendar application. Otherwise, I have to switch to the d= atatracker to find the .ics. =20 > It's very useful to know when they all are to avoid conflicts. > An annoyance is that the interim meeting ics also includes a bunch of > actual > in-person meeting details. It's an annoyance once you start populating > your > meeting week schedule, and you turn off the interim meeting view, and the= n > forget to turn it back on :-) >=20 > > It would be great to have an automated way (e.g. in the meeting > request > > form) to link the .ics and webex (or other tools) info. > > We are running regular virtual meeting with the NMRG and, even if > not > > complex, putting all parts together takes time. >=20 > This is easy... > The calendar includes a pointer to your agenda. >=20 > Your agenda had contain to the webex/etc. info, right? So just upload th= e > info there. This also puts the webex/etc. info squarely under the contro= l > of > the chairs. >=20 > LPwan interim is starting in 3 minutes, and I see it point to > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-lpwan- > 07/materials/agenda-interim-2019-lpwan-07-lpwan-01 >=20 > and if you look there, you see the webex URL. LC: agreed. This is useful to have all links in the same place. But My prop= osal was to automate creation of the interim/virtual meeting + creation of = the webex, i.e. to *generate* the webex link when on the meeting request fo= rm. LC: my ideal workflow would be to automatically generate the meeting reques= t from the final choice in the doodle poll. The only "manual" input would t= hen be the agenda content. >=20 > -- > Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works > -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D- From nobody Wed May 15 10:55:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1B2120119 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 10:55:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01-un_8T6OEz for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 10:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 957CE120359 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 10:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CEF38271; Wed, 15 May 2019 13:54:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id 6D75EE3B; Wed, 15 May 2019 13:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B018B3D; Wed, 15 May 2019 13:54:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: "Ciavaglia\, Laurent \(Nokia - FR\/Paris-Saclay\)" cc: Carsten Bormann , tools-discuss In-Reply-To: References: <12481.1557928699@localhost> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] .ics files for interims? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 17:55:02 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain "Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" wrote: >> "Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" wrote: >> > I would also be keen to have an .ics file available with the >> > virtual/interim meetings announcements. >> >> It's there. > LC: here I was meaning to have the .ics file as an attachment to the > e-mail generated when the meeting is announced. Then I can directly > click on it and include in my calendar application. Otherwise, I have > to switch to the datatracker to find the .ics. So, shouldn't the attachment point to the agenda? That way, you get the layer of indirection, which lets the chairs actually make sure the link is correct. >> and if you look there, you see the webex URL. > LC: agreed. This is useful to have all links in the same place. But My > proposal was to automate creation of the interim/virtual meeting + > creation of the webex, i.e. to *generate* the webex link when on the > meeting request form. Until the IETF is paying for (and getting via SLA) support from Webex, with some serious commitment to full-functionality cross-platform, I'd rather that we did no further integration with webex, API or not. At this point, Cisco donates Webex to us, and we get no SLA. We can't report bugs. > LC: my ideal workflow would be to automatically generate the meeting > request from the final choice in the doodle poll. The only "manual" > input would then be the agenda content. That would also be cool :-) But it would be another proprietary integration. I would volunteer for do a short demo for WG chairs of using Doodle better. Many WG chairs are not aware of how it integrates with calendars, and so often do not "pick" the meeting in doodle. (That clears up tentative values). And I would support having doodle integration, if IETF were to become a "business user" of doodle... That would require an RFP, etc. -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAlzcUmsACgkQgItw+93Q 3WUftQgAlFvKh7DcYasonhiBY0HNbUL5Hlx7k2PKy0qf/r1XUGXb8zYOqQRWj90I Sp0jv20osSQtWV2J+M9AVaFsSeYofWZBGXvFO+WV7mbWII4rxBV3DlNNjrhUqlo1 nWWqJF5IfQHE3iQb3dbcWSELl7/DF53A/QdsktKnQ+ABmx9F6pVVI4H1LB6hYyjs lWgQV056N8MVxJRGbvUQmZWfq1DxpUFBJ5+LNPEs0BCW02x9d3UK4NHDIAX7iVYa vgD4f+nIL30G0RoEQk7xxv6Aa7/hSvcFUMv1UYgKrPQfzWmd0rxjaWBY0wAwOYI3 qsQsrkSUgEV06glTdJnLSaxKhiva7Q== =5Hvv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Wed May 15 11:08:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B0712051B for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 11:08:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rGejCqhBoHV9 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 11:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 067361204C3 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 11:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.116] (p54A6CC75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.166.204.117]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4542bg64MnzySG; Wed, 15 May 2019 20:08:15 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <11415.1557942891@localhost> Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 20:08:15 +0200 Cc: tools-discuss X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 579636492.539677-d1a86a51b6f19eba0aff7d8c079ffdc5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <12481.1557928699@localhost> <11415.1557942891@localhost> To: Michael Richardson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] .ics files for interims? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 18:08:20 -0000 On May 15, 2019, at 19:54, Michael Richardson = wrote: >=20 > I would volunteer for do a short demo for WG chairs of using Doodle = better. Yes, please. > Many WG chairs are not aware of how it integrates with calendars, and = so > often do not "pick" the meeting in doodle. (That clears up tentative = values). I pester them each time they don=E2=80=99t do it. Multicasting this information would of course be more efficient. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Mon May 20 00:16:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD3F120134 for ; Mon, 20 May 2019 00:16:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EcHQfu3fmSqU for ; Mon, 20 May 2019 00:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD68612008B for ; Mon, 20 May 2019 00:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.106] (p54A6CC75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.166.204.117]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 456qvh3WtDzylt; Mon, 20 May 2019 09:16:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 580029405.8724689-471e62f1542c4ad2145ee5e8d6a03f42 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 09:16:47 +0200 Message-Id: <8B296553-81A2-4C7A-A2E4-FCA9F5A741DF@tzi.org> To: tools-discuss X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Etherpad stability for IETF and Interims X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 07:16:53 -0000 While there still is some time to maybe roll out some improvements: What can be done about the stability of Etherpad for note taking and = other collaborative work during the next IETF (and interims)? Should we move to a different code base (my students like = hackmd/CodiMD)? Anything on the operational side that can be done? Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Mon May 20 02:13:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFE91200D7 for ; Mon, 20 May 2019 02:13:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EfgntCNOTIok for ; Mon, 20 May 2019 02:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB77F120041 for ; Mon, 20 May 2019 02:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:63892 helo=tannat.localdomain) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hSeLs-0001EX-Cg; Mon, 20 May 2019 02:13:01 -0700 To: Carsten Bormann , tools-discuss References: <8B296553-81A2-4C7A-A2E4-FCA9F5A741DF@tzi.org> From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 11:12:44 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8B296553-81A2-4C7A-A2E4-FCA9F5A741DF@tzi.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cHEEgKOKNeAC2hvPOMu5R5RLV3V4c02iu" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, cabo@tzi.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Etherpad stability for IETF and Interims X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 09:13:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --cHEEgKOKNeAC2hvPOMu5R5RLV3V4c02iu Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="CdN475qrhLU6jd7UXxhildWXlfBH1H7gX"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Carsten Bormann , tools-discuss Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Etherpad stability for IETF and Interims References: <8B296553-81A2-4C7A-A2E4-FCA9F5A741DF@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <8B296553-81A2-4C7A-A2E4-FCA9F5A741DF@tzi.org> --CdN475qrhLU6jd7UXxhildWXlfBH1H7gX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carsten, The etherpad server was transitioned to a secretariat server a couple of weeks before IETF 104. The next planned change is to install release 1.8= , to which Ray Bellis has contributed a major refactoring: https://blog.etherpad.org/2019/03/18/updating-etherpad-for-modern-javascr= ipt/ It's still under testing, but should hopefully come in soon, and bring mu= ch improved stability. Best regards, Henrik On 2019-05-20 09:16, Carsten Bormann wrote: > While there still is some time to maybe roll out some improvements: >=20 > What can be done about the stability of Etherpad for note taking and ot= her collaborative work during the next IETF (and interims)? >=20 > Should we move to a different code base (my students like hackmd/CodiMD= )? > Anything on the operational side that can be done? >=20 > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >=20 --CdN475qrhLU6jd7UXxhildWXlfBH1H7gX-- --cHEEgKOKNeAC2hvPOMu5R5RLV3V4c02iu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEifjc5+rnL1MJBcZSTptXS4+7FxoFAlzib40ACgkQTptXS4+7 FxqrPA/9EQtEW/3AhzC7m4tqvzFVrRXs6zjLzQCvQoRmh11cH8s2R+7Z6wtMmc2g 5LOJtQ1zioHg5vAqFY88VumaZtO9diqcX4hugdHKABZUE6uCLEHEjtMpUmy9kzyi T5Zd1L+hlpEX4cA0p/Jg+9O1DRVP28DGDEvp/c6cfrGF8eJaJdUnHPuOLK+36Vk8 TGxsdcfzaCe4dh8VbFEi0rXTXckXB62cahNiNWztGDJN+qfDHHTvoaSO8hOMOXox 6a0It0XElAJmKqS7MTNZuQ/wymw9eVx6FmaRkM08Z/6gg5F4ox4052jp4dhq6Mgf 386HFrhFLkRJSJI/4bXiCngsA1R38KzU3qjs4rnwD43H0bEONJM1AEPF+5OrHcip bU2TIJulPYPEeKyNAVH5/3/0ZlMA9RypKQjJN4ULGUbKvEtQ8BiJ1kzbNAcTsKQe enJrLZAzEN6WOYGji+Az65QHR3OCVI5vl6cY8urstQ6xxQzd4nJRyWdN4Igo9pw+ Y6M9mMi8tyjyLsQDV1yy2/eputDjoFF2OshGWCVmn/rkc/7y3qeaJ+/3FCF9ecHC vHZn8rIIrKrYdRW4QkMRimwe24FQ1CGpWpofPrEXkSQYbuvledJaSrtfU50No9QR IsJMSkwior/sE2/jaHWRr+PsJ8BrCSiMLI10cce9LGYUuCHh800= =+TGr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cHEEgKOKNeAC2hvPOMu5R5RLV3V4c02iu-- From nobody Mon May 20 02:22:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4DA120020 for ; Mon, 20 May 2019 02:22:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wELfgbBw607u for ; Mon, 20 May 2019 02:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 259E91200D7 for ; Mon, 20 May 2019 02:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.106] (p54A6CC75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.166.204.117]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 456thM749kzygP; Mon, 20 May 2019 11:22:11 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 11:22:11 +0200 Cc: tools-discuss X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 580036929.487784-a1d4e32572d3e384980d456c5bd1d80e Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <54A6D3CF-E02C-4BAA-A0D1-D6C98859330F@tzi.org> References: <8B296553-81A2-4C7A-A2E4-FCA9F5A741DF@tzi.org> To: Henrik Levkowetz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Etherpad stability for IETF and Interims X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 09:22:17 -0000 Hi Henrik, Thank you! So we will wait for 1.8 and then do some stress testing, hopefully well = before IETF 105. Is there a place where the update to the new release will be announced? Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > On May 20, 2019, at 11:12, Henrik Levkowetz = wrote: >=20 > Signed PGP part > Hi Carsten, >=20 > The etherpad server was transitioned to a secretariat server a couple = of > weeks before IETF 104. The next planned change is to install release = 1.8, > to which Ray Bellis has contributed a major refactoring: >=20 > = https://blog.etherpad.org/2019/03/18/updating-etherpad-for-modern-javascri= pt/ >=20 > It's still under testing, but should hopefully come in soon, and bring = much > improved stability. >=20 >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Henrik >=20 > On 2019-05-20 09:16, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> While there still is some time to maybe roll out some improvements: >>=20 >> What can be done about the stability of Etherpad for note taking and = other collaborative work during the next IETF (and interims)? >>=20 >> Should we move to a different code base (my students like = hackmd/CodiMD)? >> Anything on the operational side that can be done? >>=20 >> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >>=20 >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>=20 >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >>=20 >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From nobody Mon May 20 02:36:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B77120151 for ; Mon, 20 May 2019 02:36:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W9q749NGVYAQ for ; Mon, 20 May 2019 02:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43DFE1200D7 for ; Mon, 20 May 2019 02:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:54457 helo=[192.168.1.147]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hSeiJ-0002Ye-Ms; Mon, 20 May 2019 02:36:12 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Henrik Levkowetz X-Mailer: iPad Mail (16E227) In-Reply-To: <54A6D3CF-E02C-4BAA-A0D1-D6C98859330F@tzi.org> Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 11:36:04 +0200 Cc: tools-discuss Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9A4B0C0E-088F-4CFB-9000-B39CEB0245CF@levkowetz.com> References: <8B296553-81A2-4C7A-A2E4-FCA9F5A741DF@tzi.org> <54A6D3CF-E02C-4BAA-A0D1-D6C98859330F@tzi.org> To: Carsten Bormann X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik@levkowetz.com, cabo@tzi.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Etherpad stability for IETF and Interims X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 09:36:16 -0000 > On 20 May 2019, at 11:22, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > Hi Henrik, >=20 > Thank you! >=20 > So we will wait for 1.8 and then do some stress testing, hopefully well be= fore IETF 105. > Is there a place where the update to the new release will be announced? I'll announce on this list if you like :-) Henrik >=20 > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >=20 >=20 >> On May 20, 2019, at 11:12, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:= >>=20 >> Signed PGP part >> Hi Carsten, >>=20 >> The etherpad server was transitioned to a secretariat server a couple of >> weeks before IETF 104. The next planned change is to install release 1.8= , >> to which Ray Bellis has contributed a major refactoring: >>=20 >> https://blog.etherpad.org/2019/03/18/updating-etherpad-for-modern-javascr= ipt/ >>=20 >> It's still under testing, but should hopefully come in soon, and bring mu= ch >> improved stability. >>=20 >>=20 >> Best regards, >>=20 >> Henrik >>=20 >>> On 2019-05-20 09:16, Carsten Bormann wrote: >>> While there still is some time to maybe roll out some improvements: >>>=20 >>> What can be done about the stability of Etherpad for note taking and oth= er collaborative work during the next IETF (and interims)? >>>=20 >>> Should we move to a different code base (my students like hackmd/CodiMD)= ? >>> Anything on the operational side that can be done? >>>=20 >>> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >>>=20 >>> ___________________________________________________________ >>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>>=20 >>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >>> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >>> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >>>=20 >>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >>> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20