From nobody Sun May 3 23:00:17 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647A43A0901; Sun, 3 May 2020 23:00:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zf_7NrOmG4No; Sun, 3 May 2020 23:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 119813A0CB9; Sun, 3 May 2020 23:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.42.112] (p548DCD70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.205.112]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49Fsdk6tPkzyyG; Mon, 4 May 2020 08:00:10 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 08:00:10 +0200 Cc: jose@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 610264810.55007-c578121bacfd48d84d84f7eef32f59eb Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20200422200954.2B867F40729@rfc-editor.org> <00e601d618e3$dfd06e30$9f714a90$@augustcellars.com> To: RFC Errata System , Tools Team Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [jose] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC7515 (6118) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 06:00:15 -0000 [On the usual problem with htmlizing links to other RFCs:] On 2020-05-04, at 02:30, John Bradley wrote: > One day this will be fixed for new RFC but not for existing ones.=20 Why not? It would be a SMOP(*) to invest the htmlizer with knowledge about = misdirected links that were discovered in existing RFCs. Each of these = errata reports (and all the existing rejected ones) would inform this. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten (*) SMOP: Small matter of programming. Usually said by people who don=E2=80=99t want to do the work themselves. 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WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [jose] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC7515 (6118) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 12:31:36 -0000 It may be possible to improve the tools, however TEXT to HTML has been a issue for a long time. The exesting TEXT RFC 7515 won't change.  Perhaps the HTML rendering will imporove, but our best bet is still the impovement in the nomative version to be something other than TEXT. In any event nothing that a eratta to RFC7515 can help with. John B. On 5/4/2020 2:00 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > [On the usual problem with htmlizing links to other RFCs:] > > On 2020-05-04, at 02:30, John Bradley wrote: >> One day this will be fixed for new RFC but not for existing ones. > Why not? > > It would be a SMOP(*) to invest the htmlizer with knowledge about misdirected links that were discovered in existing RFCs. Each of these errata reports (and all the existing rejected ones) would inform this. > > Grüße, Carsten > > (*) SMOP: Small matter of programming. > Usually said by people who don’t want to do the work themselves. > > _______________________________________________ > jose mailing list > jose@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose From nobody Mon May 4 07:53:27 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971E03A09F1; Mon, 4 May 2020 07:53:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f3zoqcLXapcD; Mon, 4 May 2020 07:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E138D3A098E; Mon, 4 May 2020 07:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.42.112] (p548DCD70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.205.112]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49G5Sg3MqJzygP; Mon, 4 May 2020 16:53:07 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 16:53:06 +0200 Cc: RFC Errata System , Tools Team Discussion , jose@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 610296786.810202-e013359493f4d6afcd5439acd1a21cd9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20200422200954.2B867F40729@rfc-editor.org> <00e601d618e3$dfd06e30$9f714a90$@augustcellars.com> To: John Bradley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [jose] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC7515 (6118) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 14:53:21 -0000 On 2020-05-04, at 14:31, John Bradley wrote: >=20 > It may be possible to improve the tools, however TEXT to HTML has been = a > issue for a long time. Yes. And the SMOP below solves that problem nicely. > The exesting TEXT RFC 7515 won't change. =20 It doesn=E2=80=99t need to (as long as it is read by a human). The issue is that the htmlizer=E2=80=99s heuristics only have limited = AI. > Perhaps the HTML rendering > will imporove, but our best bet is still the impovement in the = nomative > version to be something other than TEXT. Which is already the case with the RFCXMLv3 transition. > In any event nothing that a eratta to RFC7515 can help with. No, but the report is still useful as the information in it could go = into the database the SMOP uses. I just picked this specific report for responding as it is number N+1 of = the same kind, where N is the number where I=E2=80=99m finally losing = the patience needed to ignore the problem. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >=20 > John B. >=20 > On 5/4/2020 2:00 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> [On the usual problem with htmlizing links to other RFCs:] >>=20 >> On 2020-05-04, at 02:30, John Bradley wrote: >>> One day this will be fixed for new RFC but not for existing ones.=20 >> Why not? >>=20 >> It would be a SMOP(*) to invest the htmlizer with knowledge about = misdirected links that were discovered in existing RFCs. Each of these = errata reports (and all the existing rejected ones) would inform this. >>=20 >> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >>=20 >> (*) SMOP: Small matter of programming. >> Usually said by people who don=E2=80=99t want to do the work = themselves. >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> jose mailing list >> jose@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose >=20 > _______________________________________________ > jose mailing list > jose@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose From nobody Mon May 4 08:19:20 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D0E3A0A22; Mon, 4 May 2020 08:19:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.404 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.404 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.275, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XV54La0-R6ot; Mon, 4 May 2020 08:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F181D3A0A1B; Mon, 4 May 2020 08:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 044FJ0QF074296 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 May 2020 10:19:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1588605542; bh=tuaL+xp7X47canVBo6oNVr/smSDNC6b9IKzbBkS2g9Q=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=hVz/3gG/VyxY5iw+AngN7yipUrMXkFtIdReDws6xc8VqfXBDrBDyR3ZLmyuIOO6A/ xpaCuliY/3KAiHm08kohO6Zk7MwTt5yfu6o8q3jgMyhpN8jHsqRA8u7it45cxF2dqm wiM19Bm2Ck3cwuMIZnxp8Jaz6isYXsvIzNyBF7lU= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: Carsten Bormann , John Bradley Cc: jose@ietf.org, Tools Team Discussion , RFC Errata System References: <20200422200954.2B867F40729@rfc-editor.org> <00e601d618e3$dfd06e30$9f714a90$@augustcellars.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <2638adfe-23ee-be15-d952-5a16d56243ab@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 10:19:00 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [jose] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC7515 (6118) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 15:19:07 -0000 Hi Carsten - How is the SMOP you are envisioning different from the inline-errata tooling? See https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/inline-errata/rfc6016.html or https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/inline-errata/rfc8400.html for small examples. https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/inline-errata/rfc3261.html#btn_1051 and https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/inline-errata/rfc3261.html#btn_1470 show placers where the errata could be algorithmically applied directly to the text. RjS On 5/4/20 9:53 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On 2020-05-04, at 14:31, John Bradley wrote: >> It may be possible to improve the tools, however TEXT to HTML has been a >> issue for a long time. > Yes. And the SMOP below solves that problem nicely. > >> The exesting TEXT RFC 7515 won't change. > It doesn’t need to (as long as it is read by a human). > The issue is that the htmlizer’s heuristics only have limited AI. > >> Perhaps the HTML rendering >> will imporove, but our best bet is still the impovement in the nomative >> version to be something other than TEXT. > Which is already the case with the RFCXMLv3 transition. > >> In any event nothing that a eratta to RFC7515 can help with. > No, but the report is still useful as the information in it could go into the database the SMOP uses. > I just picked this specific report for responding as it is number N+1 of the same kind, where N is the number where I’m finally losing the patience needed to ignore the problem. > > Grüße, Carsten > >> John B. >> >> On 5/4/2020 2:00 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >>> [On the usual problem with htmlizing links to other RFCs:] >>> >>> On 2020-05-04, at 02:30, John Bradley wrote: >>>> One day this will be fixed for new RFC but not for existing ones. >>> Why not? >>> >>> It would be a SMOP(*) to invest the htmlizer with knowledge about misdirected links that were discovered in existing RFCs. Each of these errata reports (and all the existing rejected ones) would inform this. >>> >>> Grüße, Carsten >>> >>> (*) SMOP: Small matter of programming. >>> Usually said by people who don’t want to do the work themselves. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jose mailing list >>> jose@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose >> _______________________________________________ >> jose mailing list >> jose@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org From nobody Mon May 4 08:31:04 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6B93A0ACE; 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The inline errata tooling can only help if something is an actual erratum (some kind of a bug in the published RFC). The thing discussed above refers to a bug introduced by the "rfcmarkup" tool, which transforms the plain text version into HTML, and occasionally messes up section links. FWIW, I agree with Carsten that some kind of exception list would help in that at least we wouldn't get the same errata reports all over again. 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Fixed it for you: https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~brian/RFC7515x.html Regards Brian On 05-May-20 02:53, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On 2020-05-04, at 14:31, John Bradley wrote: >> >> It may be possible to improve the tools, however TEXT to HTML has been= a >> issue for a long time. >=20 > Yes. And the SMOP below solves that problem nicely. >=20 >> The exesting TEXT RFC 7515 won't change. =20 >=20 > It doesn=E2=80=99t need to (as long as it is read by a human). > The issue is that the htmlizer=E2=80=99s heuristics only have limited A= I. >=20 >> Perhaps the HTML rendering >> will imporove, but our best bet is still the impovement in the nomativ= e >> version to be something other than TEXT. >=20 > Which is already the case with the RFCXMLv3 transition. >=20 >> In any event nothing that a eratta to RFC7515 can help with. >=20 > No, but the report is still useful as the information in it could go in= to the database the SMOP uses. > I just picked this specific report for responding as it is number N+1 o= f the same kind, where N is the number where I=E2=80=99m finally losing t= he patience needed to ignore the problem. >=20 > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >=20 >> >> John B. >> >> On 5/4/2020 2:00 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >>> [On the usual problem with htmlizing links to other RFCs:] >>> >>> On 2020-05-04, at 02:30, John Bradley wrote: >>>> One day this will be fixed for new RFC but not for existing ones.=20 >>> Why not? >>> >>> It would be a SMOP(*) to invest the htmlizer with knowledge about mis= directed links that were discovered in existing RFCs. Each of these erra= ta reports (and all the existing rejected ones) would inform this. >>> >>> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >>> >>> (*) SMOP: Small matter of programming. >>> Usually said by people who don=E2=80=99t want to do the work themselv= es. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jose mailing list >>> jose@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose >> >> _______________________________________________ >> jose mailing list >> jose@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose >=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >=20 From nobody Mon May 4 13:54:10 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555093A1042; Mon, 4 May 2020 13:54:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hMwOYvFJ43Ro; Mon, 4 May 2020 13:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09D6A3A1069; Mon, 4 May 2020 13:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.42.112] (p548DCD70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.205.112]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49GFSn2n1Jz101k; Mon, 4 May 2020 22:53:45 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <2a7deac9-afaa-8a0a-face-fc889b5d62e9@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 22:53:44 +0200 Cc: John Bradley , Tools Team Discussion , jose@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 610318424.8706959-de7457d51b6663b2249cd691879507b3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <41C6FBEB-E60B-4F3D-80C8-04B2DB7EA3FF@tzi.org> References: <20200422200954.2B867F40729@rfc-editor.org> <00e601d618e3$dfd06e30$9f714a90$@augustcellars.com> <2a7deac9-afaa-8a0a-face-fc889b5d62e9@gmail.com> To: Brian E Carpenter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [jose] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC7515 (6118) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 20:54:03 -0000 On 2020-05-04, at 22:47, Brian E Carpenter = wrote: >=20 > An even SmallerMOP is to add a disclaimer to the info block at the = head of > each HTMLised RFC. Fixed it for you: > https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~brian/RFC7515x.html s/a disclaimer/noise/ =E2=80=94 increases usability in no way =E2=80=94 won=E2=80=99t be read anyway... My SMOP is better (sent code to Robert already). Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Wed May 6 07:28:26 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A3B3A0ADF for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 07:27:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nohats.ca Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y_Mr7-tPe2nh for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 07:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.nohats.ca (mx.nohats.ca [193.110.157.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED3EB3A0AEB for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 07:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49HJny4YdSzF55 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 16:27:18 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nohats.ca; s=default; t=1588775238; bh=EIQtwQD+SnInXlRI5OBo4wMZb+22p6DmtEErTky8aZU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=P3u8QxTb9zeGW7eM8qDLqbQS9GxqptkmF1BV3DJ5XZL1j2Wx86TBCEA//oMswwmre 30al+zhBNhZSDvWvGZR4SQL3/35PtTZ8aGS31xwxJqhvhBIN2KDZ654aYmUNVcaeRL 9I4CgWRGsup3izcTIKqjegyYOAonLPaCSBZdMiRE= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.nohats.ca Received: from mx.nohats.ca ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6HH41mJG3UXk for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 16:27:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bofh.nohats.ca (bofh.nohats.ca [76.10.157.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 16:27:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7FF6B6029BA6; Wed, 6 May 2020 10:27:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F29C66B7C for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 10:27:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 10:27:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Wouters To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 14:27:32 -0000 I see another case of links in older drafts not updating that there is a newer draft. See https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind-03 There is a -04 version but it is not indicating this. The -04 is also not listed in the 00 to 03 version. It's not a "timing" thing either as the -04 was submitted on April 30. This issue has been present for years and I reported back on this many times. Perhaps the tools team can share where this code lives, so that others including me can have a look at it. Paul From nobody Wed May 6 07:56:23 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47FE3A0A90 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 07:56:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id facFH9tzO1VE for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 07:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10AB53A0A0A for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 07:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 046EuEJO058368 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 09:56:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1588776975; bh=am6QOtit9hOr7OQUkhFidDjU+wG9aX1FQsQ+vqx63os=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=kPQLRIz6CcKxYI15FhZR6BgDJgGeZJCtMvj3p1abYteXW0KEX3zriWLysP+Njd6j2 2n+XgW9c6+U/orJbsK1oh3V9ifGnkDO1D2c/kEOLx2ccwH2EeLGLGLgINpVWcmugqP oFk24XwmLaomro6u2aLvS1rzicqinUkc7RrgKnoQ= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <322d11c6-304f-7ee4-d9a5-20b026106787@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 09:56:14 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 14:56:21 -0000 Paul - To be very clear, the tools team does not operate tools.ietf.org. That is a contribution from Henrik alone. The tools team has been working on integrating the best of what's at tools.ietf.org into tools that we collaboratively maintain, such as the datatracker. The datatracker has an html-ized version of the draft you mention at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind-04. RjS On 5/6/20 9:27 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > > I see another case of links in older drafts not updating that there is a > newer draft. > > See https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind-03 > > There is a -04 version but it is not indicating this. > > The -04 is also not listed in the 00 to 03 version. > > It's not a "timing" thing either as the -04 was submitted on April 30. > > > This issue has been present for years and I reported back on this many > times. Perhaps the tools team can share where this code lives, so that > others including me can have a look at it. > > Paul > > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org From nobody Wed May 6 08:03:18 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BB53A0AF1 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:03:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tU4QPs3FZ9yo for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AF423A0AC1 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 046F3Cjh059605 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 10:03:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1588777394; bh=zZ9SFRV5VNIzo5J+iTCrGuiPd9P5WfOFmH7Vfje1ckg=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=PSvjEha6kahw8F/TUOGAKfHU0QyL/ZUVFZ1q5r1Eb2zKxKOONGw3ePi1DqhdyVsUu G1XFTsq1Skh5rug4JG7p6f4KE2zqj9zFOs36KWksf1b1bedxK19Z1VCU13ilDC9FJ6 zTMslGWSo1YZx7kGg3XkgqllGB0W5mKAYJZnNqwg= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <322d11c6-304f-7ee4-d9a5-20b026106787@nostrum.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <0a622e87-aeb0-91e6-e71f-f3ba4b53960b@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 10:03:12 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <322d11c6-304f-7ee4-d9a5-20b026106787@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 15:03:17 -0000 Ah - bad cut-paste, sorry. I intended to send this link: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind/ RjS On 5/6/20 9:56 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: > Paul - > > To be very clear, the tools team does not operate tools.ietf.org. That > is a contribution from Henrik alone. > > The tools team has been working on integrating the best of what's at > tools.ietf.org into tools that we collaboratively maintain, such as > the datatracker. The datatracker has an html-ized version of the draft > you mention at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind-04. > > RjS > > On 5/6/20 9:27 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: >> >> I see another case of links in older drafts not updating that there is a >> newer draft. >> >> See https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind-03 >> >> There is a -04 version but it is not indicating this. >> >> The -04 is also not listed in the 00 to 03 version. >> >> It's not a "timing" thing either as the -04 was submitted on April 30. >> >> >> This issue has been present for years and I reported back on this many >> times. Perhaps the tools team can share where this code lives, so that >> others including me can have a look at it. >> >> Paul >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >> >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org From nobody Wed May 6 08:37:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A013A0AE5 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:37:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qSo5JNfbvfqU for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [64.170.98.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AA0F3A0AA8 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 08:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:57221 helo=tannat.localdomain) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1jWM6f-00033d-Ah; Wed, 06 May 2020 08:37:14 -0700 To: Paul Wouters , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 17:36:52 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qqGN3BgbD017gXicPUuNj1qQ5mAkqJ5HC" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, paul@nohats.ca X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 15:37:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --qqGN3BgbD017gXicPUuNj1qQ5mAkqJ5HC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="tqU2Ulb3JbpDWwWxRmeVhmjQ9ognqpHi3"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Paul Wouters , tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating References: In-Reply-To: --tqU2Ulb3JbpDWwWxRmeVhmjQ9ognqpHi3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Paul, On 2020-05-06 16:27, Paul Wouters wrote: >=20 > I see another case of links in older drafts not updating that there is = a > newer draft. >=20 > See https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind-03 >=20 > There is a -04 version but it is not indicating this. >=20 > The -04 is also not listed in the 00 to 03 version. >=20 > It's not a "timing" thing either as the -04 was submitted on April 30. Right. It's a matter of a cache invalidation trigger sometimes failing. > This issue has been present for years and I reported back on this many > times. Perhaps the tools team can share where this code lives, so that > others including me can have a look at it. The metadata handling and cache invalidation on tools.ietf.org resides in= old bash scripts that have not gotten a lot of attention lately, to a large extent because my time has been dedicated to datatracker and xml2rf= c work the last few years. With the importance of getting the xml2rfc sche= ma v3 launced and the effort of moving other tools to the datatracker, the maintenance of the tools.ietf.org site has fallen behind. It's work I want to do, but the hours I have are limited. I've fixed the= immediate issue, and will try to find time to debug the root cause. Regards, Henrik --tqU2Ulb3JbpDWwWxRmeVhmjQ9ognqpHi3-- --qqGN3BgbD017gXicPUuNj1qQ5mAkqJ5HC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEifjc5+rnL1MJBcZSTptXS4+7FxoFAl6y2ZUACgkQTptXS4+7 Fxo1Xw/8DiJJe/seB28mnIT2o9N4vZcs8KdvgIQO2sjNEIHkecmBz9NNo8+OVrPV WKdB4aMyGauHDmTRiKWG5gRk0mjdvNAzUtUpwQ03L6V8bKwkko0WP+Ouq/wpm/2h 1Do4MYbXn0vAZ1BqKsDmoa4zIfJ8Xj0/kST+Z74sXAdJqpwnDBj9vTc/M6e8gwFS Br/sLNvwjvYno0JkSOhb4qHWeY6aQ9jp6eSY3EAR+/HeVXrR/YPm5XXF5Yx1z4vX AXh4o5nhUnjPaVL98Bok8AqaesXfJDEk73HmZg5cXlON/aqu1JWqasvdJChrI/nG zPm04ryBJ9ZIbvhApAh4pfa4xhlK1ix5aGzna2XtZS6xDFGcR0g8ORaaD4aQAhmw wk5Uw68FopxRABupMsbAJXZ0vquEBksEuE96t+akmA/GqnXMgBf2aTO0uqhdI1lP 8U7Sn56jlCkmhP50Is56aEVXaaGlIxyA44jkcxrCQYpH5kIm+JwUANXsP38gnvKY wR6LEKP/TyecTnbcovJM7gHy9fFxPzlP5hi5d7mdC2FUYd3btuemN9uOTdy2Rd07 cjfX/BndT9rw8FFwSspCKvwtePb1mVHSW74tGReoSnWZIQ3psInTm/+BpR8uapoU DO8Gkq66qL2pCHtIv9GdviPjdQVdXGaDrD5U/Axh+hcDaAuEnx0= =K+O9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qqGN3BgbD017gXicPUuNj1qQ5mAkqJ5HC-- From nobody Wed May 6 10:58:39 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA703A0948 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 10:58:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nohats.ca Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z2B9K46_sd3Y for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 10:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.nohats.ca (mx.nohats.ca [193.110.157.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A28283A0954 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 10:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49HPTj2JyxzF5g; Wed, 6 May 2020 19:58:33 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nohats.ca; s=default; t=1588787913; bh=imlXLgn5HJUmxPAf5p/t+J6RtK3EN0zwuL5Q8X4PETI=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=Apg0Dqr6PspogevEnTbtiABARVWWihR0Ggq/MJy7B9/KSdPOvAmXEu9/DL9AYr1+X Blxt2HBblU5gecJ52e5aIxjylzYZSjUIptXlpKiBNwEnlgeVngfP5JBicdm5oEEazj dtQgCkpil2kLk6rOAsFLTYEIMqhm1gnLr4lbQb4A= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.nohats.ca Received: from mx.nohats.ca ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XOzR7GqU14-e; Wed, 6 May 2020 19:58:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bofh.nohats.ca (bofh.nohats.ca [76.10.157.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Wed, 6 May 2020 19:58:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 27A266029BA6; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:58:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23EE266B7C; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:58:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 13:58:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Wouters To: Henrik Levkowetz cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 17:58:37 -0000 On Wed, 6 May 2020, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: Thanks for the quick rpely Henrik, >> It's not a "timing" thing either as the -04 was submitted on April 30. > > Right. It's a matter of a cache invalidation trigger sometimes failing. Yes, I remember talking about this before. But that trigger bug only reflects to recent updates. All the past issues where the trigger did not happen would need to be found and corrected as well. So I thought the solution we thought of at that time was to go over the entire archive and fixup all the broken ones automatically. That would be independent of this cache bug or other future bugs ? > The metadata handling and cache invalidation on tools.ietf.org resides in > old bash scripts that have not gotten a lot of attention lately, to a > large extent because my time has been dedicated to datatracker and xml2rfc > work the last few years. With the importance of getting the xml2rfc schema > v3 launced and the effort of moving other tools to the datatracker, the > maintenance of the tools.ietf.org site has fallen behind. I do understand and I do appreciate the time you spend on xml2rfc, as I'm a frequent user of it. But I do think this bug needs a bit more priority, since it has been years, and I only find out about missing references on my own drafts. It is really unclear how many references I miss on other people's drafts when I don't know they exist because the tracker might not show me. Personally, now when I read a "latest" draft, I always increase the number by one to see if I'm not missing something :/ > It's work I want to do, but the hours I have are limited. I've fixed the > immediate issue, and will try to find time to debug the root cause. Thanks. I'll ping you again when I have some more time myself in a few weeks to see if we can get me setup to look at the current code and/or dbase to see the scope of the issue and look at fixing the bug and the old references. Cheers, Paul From nobody Wed May 6 11:09:57 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217763A0991 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:09:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aV5v1hOB1oDV for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [64.170.98.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E0DB3A098A for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:57836 helo=tannat.localdomain) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1jWOUT-0003JW-P0; Wed, 06 May 2020 11:09:54 -0700 To: Paul Wouters References: Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 20:09:46 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EbU98GmwJnsWWXShHXsDsiKM4KuJn1vVr" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, paul@nohats.ca X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 18:09:56 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --EbU98GmwJnsWWXShHXsDsiKM4KuJn1vVr Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="VnlWDlarKCriQ1kJ5MhsJMdmlXa8R5xbE"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Paul Wouters Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating References: In-Reply-To: --VnlWDlarKCriQ1kJ5MhsJMdmlXa8R5xbE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Paul, On 2020-05-06 19:58, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2020, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >=20 > Thanks for the quick rpely Henrik, >=20 >>> It's not a "timing" thing either as the -04 was submitted on April 30= =2E >> >> Right. It's a matter of a cache invalidation trigger sometimes failin= g. >=20 > Yes, I remember talking about this before. But that trigger bug only > reflects to recent updates. All the past issues where the trigger did > not happen would need to be found and corrected as well. >=20 > So I thought the solution we thought of at that time was to go over the= > entire archive and fixup all the broken ones automatically. That would > be independent of this cache bug or other future bugs ? >=20 >> The metadata handling and cache invalidation on tools.ietf.org resides= in >> old bash scripts that have not gotten a lot of attention lately, to a >> large extent because my time has been dedicated to datatracker and xml= 2rfc >> work the last few years. With the importance of getting the xml2rfc s= chema >> v3 launced and the effort of moving other tools to the datatracker, th= e >> maintenance of the tools.ietf.org site has fallen behind. >=20 > I do understand and I do appreciate the time you spend on xml2rfc, as > I'm a frequent user of it. But I do think this bug needs a bit more > priority, since it has been years, and I only find out about missing > references on my own drafts. It is really unclear how many references I= > miss on other people's drafts when I don't know they exist because the > tracker might not show me. Personally, now when I read a "latest" draft= , > I always increase the number by one to see if I'm not missing something= :/ Ouch. Ok, point taken. >> It's work I want to do, but the hours I have are limited. I've fixed = the >> immediate issue, and will try to find time to debug the root cause. >=20 > Thanks. I'll ping you again when I have some more time myself in a few > weeks to see if we can get me setup to look at the current code and/or > dbase to see the scope of the issue and look at fixing the bug and the > old references. Ack. Best regards, Henrik --VnlWDlarKCriQ1kJ5MhsJMdmlXa8R5xbE-- --EbU98GmwJnsWWXShHXsDsiKM4KuJn1vVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEifjc5+rnL1MJBcZSTptXS4+7FxoFAl6y/WoACgkQTptXS4+7 FxrxdQ//SqNuIH5ntHqJua3PKBQ1K524cWypD5tOHGixyvsVP6gCcWWGpcxb6/Bh rpIh1hUqZCr3UhCqNqaxoWeaQxPwjadpSww1vtdAY5C//W3K4Jx9t8aSj1AoIUHU LKiksqWyMm4NXwl0FLhuSzICm/qsWgSlJt77VMwBQtBFGXoeVVdx+4trLqo/mL0n PofYfZe5x+VPy8M1OV4ekOFE7ogksKFCcj+GDU+z0VpTwnUoNVtRbfkUSe6hywIz ftp1PyCA1kevmts0w7ZZQiz8Hlf1n8DS1/KJcgNjRDFqCE581KF9pxoWJy8MRhbO MbbDe/12AlOtXrpkSQXkin1absYbCOUmhmKmH/TYSial1h9G0by/WV63q9WotTmG djT4lYXnscWZkW1v4ySrRIyeDrLz4i32h0oROa5FHNwunExcYIMlHLbpDY89N2vp KoPb4SCbeJ3a8g571Yaa+FjUZHf7/dNzt3tC3KPlZViHE7+7fO4RHR2hcvyNKe3P HFMkjxaCCI2EI9+wuJV7ox4Uueo/MJe5fCPTfhTLGjT741RJpigtMWeVPSnjLh7p tg9meTpA4dqUjqkrM4WlSWv0h2hrt18r/pu0cMmn8pZFeV/vJ15wxkrZXJA2Da/H Bmb/63rw9q/oA8eH7V1IJ/V3c7+RibpjlYt+4IJjGBIEgrGwZts= =AEDU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EbU98GmwJnsWWXShHXsDsiKM4KuJn1vVr-- From nobody Wed May 6 11:15:29 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545783A09E9 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:15:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4s2YKVvGmoQM for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CB643A09E0 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 046IFKe5095236 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 May 2020 13:15:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1588788921; bh=bxMRUG3Q2nq9zc600d/FXYuQzhKOADm6LnFmdW2R0y4=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=hIYuVk9kGW3gbl96rmjamddtz7eVYtjn2Z/Jw893+jORmtNAshNKSQ9oRsanHPy9H SRLRZ8vMJ6jTpnZcf7hJzsf2ppl7ZV/moVrOKoBW8/oSB0L9yN+TdX/FQkjK74wX+v NNUEBmzugXk9i3XGm5MwbKlYOgXgMhQxWQ9AkEM8= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: Paul Wouters , Henrik Levkowetz Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 13:15:20 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 18:15:27 -0000 On 5/6/20 12:58 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2020, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > Thanks for the quick rpely Henrik, > >>> It's not a "timing" thing either as the -04 was submitted on April 30. >> >> Right.  It's a matter of a cache invalidation trigger sometimes failing. > > Yes, I remember talking about this before. But that trigger bug only > reflects to recent updates. All the past issues where the trigger did > not happen would need to be found and corrected as well. > > So I thought the solution we thought of at that time was to go over the > entire archive and fixup all the broken ones automatically. That would > be independent of this cache bug or other future bugs ? > >> The metadata handling and cache invalidation on tools.ietf.org >> resides in >> old bash scripts that have not gotten a lot of attention lately, to a >> large extent because my time has been dedicated to datatracker and >> xml2rfc >> work the last few years.  With the importance of getting the xml2rfc >> schema >> v3 launced and the effort of moving other tools to the datatracker, the >> maintenance of the tools.ietf.org site has fallen behind. > > I do understand and I do appreciate the time you spend on xml2rfc, as > I'm a frequent user of it. But I do think this bug needs a bit more > priority, since it has been years, and I only find out about missing > references on my own drafts. It is really unclear how many references I > miss on other people's drafts when I don't know they exist because the > tracker might not show me. Paul - Again, just to be very clear, I think what you mean by that last sentence is that when you think there's a new draft, you go to tools.ietf.org and are frustrated occasionally because the redirect handler for the name without a draft there doesn't redirect to what should be the current version. That is, by 'tracker' you mean the pages on tools.ietf.org. The datatracker doesn't have this problem. RjS > Personally, now when I read a "latest" draft, > I always increase the number by one to see if I'm not missing > something :/ > >> It's work I want to do, but the hours I have are limited.  I've fixed >> the >> immediate issue, and will try to find time to debug the root cause. > > Thanks. I'll ping you again when I have some more time myself in a few > weeks to see if we can get me setup to look at the current code and/or > dbase to see the scope of the issue and look at fixing the bug and the > old references. > > Cheers, > > Paul > > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org From nobody Wed May 6 12:53:05 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05C03A0ACB for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 12:53:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Isc4eCVszXzD for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 12:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93E1E3A0AC7 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 12:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 046Jqx9F012791 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:53:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1588794781; bh=YCcMHi33uGsLh/LEMzlhtOILTaATS3PHUxn0DGT8WGs=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=T9IW/+GX/gpH6nOj0kFju5GLctOxbw0YVEO17XiuS2XDs4DP2vMQtAYfsqWjKLNoz +Rzu/hw5R+U9OsMPT3FIhe7oDFHiP2ntWAtALllZMmy0lOa0NWb1gUKjD5nI0eElyq 4wUy9gMPHiSlT2W/2I/oQQDt/uoleCT3CQJbxreo= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <68679b7d-2569-b715-7c47-7babae9955a8@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 14:52:59 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Online codesprint on 19May at 1400-1600 UTC X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 19:53:03 -0000 We will hold our next online codesprint from 1400-1600 UTC Tuesday May 19. If you have a desire to improve the IETF tools, particularly the datatracker, please sign up and join us. Details are at See you online! 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Browser cache? Regards Brian On 07-May-20 03:03, Robert Sparks wrote: > Ah - bad cut-paste, sorry. > > I intended to send this link: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind/ > > RjS > > On 5/6/20 9:56 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> Paul - >> >> To be very clear, the tools team does not operate tools.ietf.org. That >> is a contribution from Henrik alone. >> >> The tools team has been working on integrating the best of what's at >> tools.ietf.org into tools that we collaboratively maintain, such as >> the datatracker. The datatracker has an html-ized version of the draft >> you mention at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind-04. >> >> RjS >> >> On 5/6/20 9:27 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: >>> >>> I see another case of links in older drafts not updating that there is a >>> newer draft. >>> >>> See https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind-03 >>> >>> There is a -04 version but it is not indicating this. >>> >>> The -04 is also not listed in the 00 to 03 version. >>> >>> It's not a "timing" thing either as the -04 was submitted on April 30. >>> >>> >>> This issue has been present for years and I reported back on this many >>> times. Perhaps the tools team can share where this code lives, so that >>> others including me can have a look at it. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________ >>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>> >>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >>> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >>> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >>> >>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >>> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >> >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > . > From nobody Wed May 6 13:31:52 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B5A3A0E2A for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:31:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TFSqA_j2ikmx for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AEA2D3A0B18 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.42.112] (p548DCD70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.205.112]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49HSsn42Xtz10Gf; Wed, 6 May 2020 22:31:09 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 22:31:09 +0200 Cc: Paul Wouters , Henrik Levkowetz , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 610489869.04105-4f9038c0a80353b4e3d2a383a3d90aa8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Robert Sparks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 20:31:51 -0000 Hi Robert, > On 2020-05-06, at 20:15, Robert Sparks wrote: >=20 > The datatracker doesn't have this problem. That is good to know. Paul=E2=80=99s insistence on a fix is also an indication that we = continue to rely on the tools server. Its format for presenting RFCs, = and the links that point to it, are still widely used by many people, = inside and outside the IETF. 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Regards Brian Carpenter On 07-May-20 08:28, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > For the record, I'm not seeing any problem with > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind > or > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind-03 > both of which indicate -04 as the latest version. > > Browser cache? > > Regards > Brian > > On 07-May-20 03:03, Robert Sparks wrote: >> Ah - bad cut-paste, sorry. >> >> I intended to send this link: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind/ >> >> RjS >> >> On 5/6/20 9:56 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: >>> Paul - >>> >>> To be very clear, the tools team does not operate tools.ietf.org. That >>> is a contribution from Henrik alone. >>> >>> The tools team has been working on integrating the best of what's at >>> tools.ietf.org into tools that we collaboratively maintain, such as >>> the datatracker. The datatracker has an html-ized version of the draft >>> you mention at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind-04. >>> >>> RjS >>> >>> On 5/6/20 9:27 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: >>>> >>>> I see another case of links in older drafts not updating that there is a >>>> newer draft. >>>> >>>> See https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind-03 >>>> >>>> There is a -04 version but it is not indicating this. >>>> >>>> The -04 is also not listed in the 00 to 03 version. >>>> >>>> It's not a "timing" thing either as the -04 was submitted on April 30. >>>> >>>> >>>> This issue has been present for years and I reported back on this many >>>> times. Perhaps the tools team can share where this code lives, so that >>>> others including me can have a look at it. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> ___________________________________________________________ >>>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>>> >>>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >>>> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >>>> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >>>> >>>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >>>> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________ >>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>> >>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >>> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >>> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >>> >>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >>> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >> >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >> . >> From nobody Wed May 6 13:32:48 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3726E3A09F1 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:32:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8nWOzYJKaEjx for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B804E3A096A for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.42.112] (p548DCD70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.205.112]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49HSvS3rWBz10Gp; Wed, 6 May 2020 22:32:36 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <2d4b8f73-3da8-192f-e061-9537a805fba6@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 22:32:36 +0200 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 610489956.015231-e02122fb5fc29edf269641c1f9a57634 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <322d11c6-304f-7ee4-d9a5-20b026106787@nostrum.com> <0a622e87-aeb0-91e6-e71f-f3ba4b53960b@nostrum.com> <2d4b8f73-3da8-192f-e061-9537a805fba6@gmail.com> To: Brian E Carpenter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 20:32:47 -0000 On 2020-05-06, at 22:28, Brian E Carpenter = wrote: >=20 > Browser cache? $ curl -I https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind-03 [=E2=80=A6] Last-Modified: Wed, 06 May 2020 16:02:46 GMT Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Wed May 6 13:35:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0AC93A0B00 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:35:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.404 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.404 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.275, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PxLNjmwkQ6IJ for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5DA63A096A for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 13:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 046KZJHj020632 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 May 2020 15:35:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1588797320; bh=XexF5y50WcJcOTPqIR4Nyy3hqD6StLFNsXKf5rROPr8=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=GTeGA9v7pTSXcaaqDh/viHxuEnvWnr0J6usy/VQSxbs3VL4HmGeO39xYV0/DptKCU ozwlvu6ZdHxO1IVDiHQQNp5YaNCNiHfm1qZlgOPjyH1cgOv+OHrnp+yxwFsTbPLkFq JaTe8c8lZUY7/kZ+X92xevGM98tMp/Ju57LN2qkM= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: Carsten Bormann Cc: Paul Wouters , Henrik Levkowetz , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 15:35:19 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 20:35:24 -0000 On 5/6/20 3:31 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > Hi Robert, > >> On 2020-05-06, at 20:15, Robert Sparks wrote: >> >> The datatracker doesn't have this problem. > That is good to know. > > Paul’s insistence on a fix is also an indication that we continue to rely on the tools server. Its format for presenting RFCs, and the links that point to it, are still widely used by many people, inside and outside the IETF. Yes, and it is on the plan to have the datatracker html-ized view use the same style (the content is already essentially the same). I understand that there are a lot of places that point into tools.ietf.org. > > Grüße, Carsten > From nobody Wed May 6 20:36:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31EA3A076C for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:36:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nohats.ca Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ctwVO-rD8cTN for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.nohats.ca (mx.nohats.ca [193.110.157.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AB203A0763 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49HfJQ4fGLz3Bh; Thu, 7 May 2020 05:36:22 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nohats.ca; s=default; t=1588822582; bh=GN4Q04g+MlIfQFgXJB8/vljdZfoMGxnacCCWHwwczng=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=W7A2TJaDO16mCPppidvCEsf9VDxd1MbwKcmty5EpWxt/5U3D++WvF4iKmlDY/otIr XaO+FKA/dSdHSQjprtzOIa3mHU6JSNNlKHNuvlqMiUEGEHTftQTLqizuDEUWHpwXBB O1njM7l5qNCUd3wZBiXUOvt/zC52PPKIQVHn6smM= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.nohats.ca Received: from mx.nohats.ca ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FFDtZnbyE4ag; Thu, 7 May 2020 05:36:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bofh.nohats.ca (bofh.nohats.ca [76.10.157.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Thu, 7 May 2020 05:36:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A6BAE6020D9F; Wed, 6 May 2020 23:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A591F66B7C; Wed, 6 May 2020 23:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 23:36:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Wouters To: Robert Sparks cc: Henrik Levkowetz , tools-discuss@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 03:36:27 -0000 On Wed, 6 May 2020, Robert Sparks wrote: >> references on my own drafts. It is really unclear how many references I >> miss on other people's drafts when I don't know they exist because the >> tracker might not show me. > Again, just to be very clear, I think what you mean by that last sentence is > that when you think there's a new draft, you go to tools.ietf.org and are > frustrated occasionally because the redirect handler for the name without a > draft there doesn't redirect to what should be the current version. That is, > by 'tracker' you mean the pages on tools.ietf.org. Yes. What really happens is I go to google, type in "draft-pwouters-powerbind", which gets me the tools.ietf.org page. I click it, then I might be on 02 where it also says 03 because of google caching or more links having been made to -02 to get better page ranking, then when I am on -03, which appears as the latest, I manually change the url to +1 and see if i get file not found. then I know -03 is really the latest. > The datatracker doesn't have this problem. I don't like the datatracker page as much, because it's kind of awkward to click on the tiny html button to get the html version, which is the tools page. Also, sometimes when googling for the draft gives me too many wrong hits, I add the word "tools" to the search to get me the tools.ietf.org version. Paul From nobody Wed May 6 20:36:50 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952C03A076C for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:36:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=gmx.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RC1FwBbGlyqW for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07D313A07AB for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1588822556; bh=oE0dVv87G7/+6fUCiSdDzAxd2hU1p2hwuBq9CWApKPM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ebDjylHhKrmtFaR9l+qYGklL0AMg93m0HrDsDzcVXuhkFrpwBm4UCLyACv7geifXH QSC/Psj6CJSRNVK1+WftpB27DmPdmx/tT8wbQ900WRX7DffaDE3zO+wdq73KrYqlLX z5xuP0NHX06T9i5b0rOzYrtfZtpD4IwjEMi7eYA8= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.178.182] ([217.251.142.79]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MCsUC-1jNlts2C00-008vrD; Thu, 07 May 2020 05:35:56 +0200 To: Carsten Bormann , Robert Sparks Cc: Paul Wouters , Henrik Levkowetz , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 05:35:53 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:qnd0ggyFxp+eFUvBY3ApQ7qRPIlFCnb/HIBueA33EaIIq7Nsr2h L0Qhrp5pu1aRtut51hGCo0NjHnR34kuH72jp5t3cAve61IDIxS3wcZ0sGHeqTw/+fVnUkdj +EH9/L79E8Ywwuv2oIiZFZ00SOTGh2oC8GPnC+JVzuC6xW4MAtwwOtNd88Lbsx1NbrUUM8i ixLvxkJkXc9xiP2GZZImw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:cR0hHrkx09M=:FV+Ov3CimH+v6Df4m3K+n3 ub1RphcUYyVZ/Zg/Vui78OqOGfSR7umaYQKpw+gHXCY7DKvL+qe6wfePyQc0E0FfLhuC9TPlA FtxeTDHbff5K5ntk2A5q7s295rZTUCyoMnMHtncSwow+L1gSGvDLpSdFG+p8sgVcbeFRO87zJ 8IK8ebZImXGQCQT/2LjjMVIEQidBQ2ee95f2M9o5JVq80YR32QL3vClgPa0u5LvkvlHIQbVU3 Ad60Jmev+APDU1DfXf2r35XBWVxAhgAKmt36R3KqEA9gS1gjiEsegT+qZ3C6seUEHn13qSUXj sMdWafzC2BHcGo3F0wX991IllpbgUH2xxkjdt5WSTphLT8t1VoKNOpkVPyqjZxOsFNBA7+2x+ 0mtYLOzUL7padsUjvyzmhxamm17FaKu2iGlhlW9uij/egytPx4clgFsoZR5TcQeV8294/UVFy I76X5W83FFX9snrfxJPTmMpq2X9TjKhaP2xVjV/ESXAnrYXLneW07Ym+Vkgm2vstDa6wz4/LX Vr/EGHtcn9HgOmCZ3xRNAeo3kl9XiwcXLDAKdc5P7XFTsajlTtHmNSNRv2Amu8u/LBlSszKZV +ObC3dXNPl6EIS4nrLOPq+P6BGAhAz4A0iLkuPRrUF/KmZ9VGU/as/7jDkP59DbzpENpafwzE jtao9BCJbwDUdFqAmRcgr28xiqPE+rn3aPas7/fTcnFQPVkLmhWWO+UrYaTNSqdkpnGPEWE9G 4NxTqTMuXSFJmwUUv140hYGLZTwzGuNHRlobk3tZU1ObABkWaBwAndKz2FvfdBvZW7/KDJ4pw NuVh7x4m6icuvQ1LdjCG59WEnrmb4QRQ43e4dxw3FImhD8dWSXf+Tdw3BR8kJjNReEoArCgcI VXtFuMSMG58aKN3jWW5yTRHuQIaIC8aeP/IEytLAgPKhPWcxdRgx/fvIU/ajOKAvfVEoDZU2B G5TxZzuU+0ZMLI5GhsHT+lzb3BAkSQEBt5AOo3CdXNRDVL9DrfCBiYE5fcgbuP6DjH3uRkuLN JI0g/PQsMAJbDBK9Ok9KtyifXeXBwEkCgE5KvMAyi8EI5hGR9RWz4aEeCgCfUINA8iDmqTiqp TlOuabTkdWt7wL38+iNBhM6XNYznUQnT+4T3ra7n58sciFvLuNRDzCa/NBVDPLryITeVh1n78 9+rrSHDoNJradp6mes9+Z0U2Pz89CMCr+s+WRUKcGNZSnyyL0UecJvJXwhGb/H8WGZVy1NHtk KyguCC4Mq2/xehk5W Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 03:36:39 -0000 On 06.05.2020 22:31, Carsten Bormann wrote: > Hi Robert, > >> On 2020-05-06, at 20:15, Robert Sparks wrote: >> >> The datatracker doesn't have this problem. > > That is good to know. > > Paul=E2=80=99s insistence on a fix is also an indication that we continu= e to rely on the tools server. Its format for presenting RFCs, and the li= nks that point to it, are still widely used by many people, inside and out= side the IETF. > ... Which reminds me that for drafts published using V3 XML, we now have a public URI for the proper HTML version to link to, but these URIs get broken when the draft expires. Best regards, Julian From nobody Wed May 6 20:39:46 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BFD3A0658 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:39:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nohats.ca Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6lOj4xawOM2H for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.nohats.ca (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:2a03:6000:1004:1::68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26A783A064F for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 20:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49HfN60BbBzp9; Thu, 7 May 2020 05:39:34 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nohats.ca; s=default; t=1588822774; bh=DtxbYL0ZQyE/y5tL8wNbMpc558sqT41J58lIFK3sEC4=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=TJ01IepCnw51zAnSd3XUWH/KyfEuiykfIiyx3+Hc05USvszBAo//kaYLZCkCIWgcT r/KaMkk+mAy3aLMoKxQDOtr8nKwhWGilMqs0Ns0jCgJitWPYjdVMKEQCZmIYXZSUZv +JQ/ofvbLEn/myDnE9o6ULkbJrLl/yvluCMqHKWI= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.nohats.ca Received: from mx.nohats.ca ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54ntCIh27U4k; Thu, 7 May 2020 05:39:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bofh.nohats.ca (bofh.nohats.ca [76.10.157.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Thu, 7 May 2020 05:39:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1C7F86020D9F; Wed, 6 May 2020 23:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BF066B7C; Wed, 6 May 2020 23:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 23:39:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Wouters To: Carsten Bormann cc: Robert Sparks , Henrik Levkowetz , tools-discuss@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 03:39:43 -0000 On Wed, 6 May 2020, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> The datatracker doesn't have this problem. > > That is good to know. > > Paul’s insistence on a fix is also an indication that we continue to rely on the tools server. Its format for presenting RFCs, and the links that point to it, are still widely used by many people, inside and outside the IETF. Well, if you click on the "html version" within datatracker, that _is_ the tools.ietf.org page. But yes, I could google for "datatracker draft-name" and perhaps land on a better always latest version, but that would still mean if I go from there to the tools version, and go one version back there, I would be on a page that is not telling me there is an -04. And we all use tabs in our browser for many days, so I might still get fooled into thinking that non-last version was the last one :) Paul From nobody Thu May 7 07:05:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4D03A0408 for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 07:05:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.404 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.404 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.275, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tJZf7CnpfaJw for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 07:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 527683A0406 for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 07:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 047E5OtQ000810 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 May 2020 09:05:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1588860326; bh=Q6F+yfL4/yGy1aE3ygS1W/4gvz6b3HcOeYsswc+P60M=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=tXIrfHlWdRaBGoP/HQS2no27j6WuZ7lVkz9gW84LEtJfo+mRnP5AvTeYxzy+Ogwfi 181ukYWEjX4L/RiXELvImkGnJ5CFXEe3bysvc77RGUD4gKQxwBOEXDPi9GPuFrIMOu dw6Q0xgdYZxi02cuDDo/VAzkjTLdDdJGWda61r+I= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: Julian Reschke , Carsten Bormann Cc: Paul Wouters , Henrik Levkowetz , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 09:05:22 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 14:05:40 -0000 On 5/6/20 10:35 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 06.05.2020 22:31, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> Hi Robert, >> >>> On 2020-05-06, at 20:15, Robert Sparks wrote: >>> >>> The datatracker doesn't have this problem. >> >> That is good to know. >> >> Paul’s insistence on a fix is also an indication that we continue to >> rely on the tools server.  Its format for presenting RFCs, and the >> links that point to it, are still widely used by many people, inside >> and outside the IETF. >> ... > > Which reminds me that for drafts published using V3 XML, we now have a > public URI for the proper HTML version to link to, but these URIs get > broken when the draft expires. Thanks - I've captured that as a ticket. FWIW: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-reschke-http-jfv-10.html > > Best regards, Julian From nobody Mon May 11 00:53:26 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8677E3A08DB for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 00:53:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YhZMOhuhn9aP for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 00:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C4423A08D7 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 00:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.119] (p548DCD41.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.205.65]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49LCq34FdGz10Cs; Mon, 11 May 2020 09:53:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 610876399.1584671-644e527010197fd3865128f525162896 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 09:53:19 +0200 Message-Id: To: Tools Team Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Draft expiry nags? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 07:53:24 -0000 There used to be warning emails before drafts expired. It seems to me I don=E2=80=99t see them any more (and others have the = same impression). Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Mon May 11 07:55:54 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569183A0C11 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 07:55:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R2VSSlXvMkbj for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 07:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8F083A0C0B for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 07:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unescapeable.local ([47.186.30.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 04BEsxCr099667 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 09:55:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1589208900; bh=DGGGOLsYzXxbRnUHw60WePcLfVNvtn0MmYvwHmDSEB8=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=YuD/aklhcZZ1nvjr7C5qJw/Rdp/j4lkycXo8M1/CaZUfLoIm08no+ncejwY7hvufJ rl3kNdVURdfCHTDO7zleZ5UNS4iQqhFULWGHsdZqDbDXjn5M3lOFl6pwVP8p8r2yxq Yh1iJXMHNWOUjIX4t432ncniLHjirqU7yl+jfJOg= X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [47.186.30.41] claimed to be unescapeable.local To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 09:54:59 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft expiry nags? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 14:55:51 -0000 Thanks Carsten - We've been chasing this down and it does look like these notifications haven't been going out recently. That should be fixed now. RjS On 5/11/20 2:53 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > There used to be warning emails before drafts expired. > > It seems to me I don’t see them any more (and others have the same impression). > > Grüße, Carsten > > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org From nobody Mon May 11 08:03:21 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD3A3A005C for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 08:03:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cOc3N4UTwnVW for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 08:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm1-x333.google.com (mail-wm1-x333.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::333]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCA233A0044 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 08:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x333.google.com with SMTP id w19so4926258wmc.1 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 08:03:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=I0a5Ex6gaSlEScNNwDE+WIAoX9KT+ldJaqiqAzejvTs=; b=QQHOITySuOi0xFkC/Vn+RRlXPQ8BQAgmmt78//0hdy0mqaukkkShntwoUv9rNT1WHJ +OZqYiY9iyT+uEX7FVcn4tpB0y6SpYK3rVT8Z+P9W1bNoX2SRuHLJlvT0KlcV/6itlEv KvDAV+rjI2KI7fK6IubCdVuclBQTExaxJ6lV4xjMl6L2nH6oVagJOQBlHgpIcByURXDU B7Ztd72P7Xokj5W4KvGo91SwwczJ204l0VPYROoX+V9E1lgnqkwaxfnAGs3neDUe+Jzo wxPn4jXfH0XUNdAvR8SyM7wESeyiz2zNQr8cZgd2NTsbZ+Z1t9cp6QTKZQZU7q99UKLm c2gw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=I0a5Ex6gaSlEScNNwDE+WIAoX9KT+ldJaqiqAzejvTs=; b=Dw/E0+5+CpICijQrV3v/ZMmBDflFGc4YXcMsRZqFR1a3xQ+SlPm6kQVqdI2hGxLbML 9Fvjn692pj9sdf3Elmht7vFgQRv2cS/frjhO+P6Uc+o7tjEt4fHx9N928DwFazvDKsyf p8m0tIkHq6anaiSc0ZLXNpgxbyvoKBOGXvRCH5uiwv9Pe75lY58SgHcFOI4i7d4+azm2 RFKm1EB/blJlOMx7KuIqQP1KVnpaN7br7msQEweJkiVqEoiyxrAlvoYqelznSvw6sNzQ oZf6mlwTvE+vx0t7gHlh1rDThtaFgcCfXb15AnytNsZ1PMglXPJkZ84qpU/e/vDw700+ V6Eg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYCmOZ1AefhRSh9EMEqflUMahNPC5QgyB0UdkNq3LAaiYTCMESA 70MEe73f3cXpra5nqiix+xk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJhgHZWoAywwD68gX7vGEqjPjP2dPfAEZOINOrbfPQ0NBMxqk+cOSBI8nRgGsjc04MNNwq1uA== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:4c3:: with SMTP id 186mr2766411wme.5.1589209393194; Mon, 11 May 2020 08:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.199] (c-24-5-53-184.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [24.5.53.184]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f123sm14015386wmf.44.2020.05.11.08.03.11 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 11 May 2020 08:03:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Hinden Message-Id: <21F4859F-7D60-42AD-958F-1531DBFE5376@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2CD669E6-E992-4EDC-919E-538178EC524C"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.14\)) Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 08:03:07 -0700 In-Reply-To: Cc: Bob Hinden , tools-discuss@ietf.org To: Robert Sparks References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.14) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft expiry nags? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 15:03:18 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_2CD669E6-E992-4EDC-919E-538178EC524C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Robert, I will admit to not missing these reminders :-) I wonder if they are useful, drafts that aren=E2=80=99t being actively = updated should be allowed to expire. It=E2=80=99s not like these = drafts really go away or can=E2=80=99t be updated after they do expire. Bob > On May 11, 2020, at 7:54 AM, Robert Sparks = wrote: >=20 > Thanks Carsten - >=20 > We've been chasing this down and it does look like these notifications = haven't been going out recently. That should be fixed now. >=20 > RjS >=20 > On 5/11/20 2:53 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> There used to be warning emails before drafts expired. >>=20 >> It seems to me I don=E2=80=99t see them any more (and others have the = same impression). >>=20 >> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >>=20 >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>=20 >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >>=20 >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org --Apple-Mail=_2CD669E6-E992-4EDC-919E-538178EC524C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEm0rfRsOCoyamPexGrut0EXfnu6gFAl65aSsACgkQrut0EXfn u6hnkwf+JnkvBP5i/Cw227jBcUxROTe1YRN5hPMN62P4ZxnJJ8CSRDqKY3uY3KNY bLO7e8IE4uTc4lPnBndm4qDYwMfLQtzClWZGbwJDjDFXmEbjajuOMX81t1BtJjpx 4BRfuz1nTWLhOJAeQuyrwT+HtMxsrB+6j7CLDQiWU1AR2ECZQn9M8nQSG1yAqITw 1w4jnN2TT2LTmmwaMkP5ULjuPwFoblRrhzaq2NELH5hv5FRXFA8r2lXzQiBx/t1p YYxuEn68X31W/444zdLfXfXbED87p0czom4QQiRsCFq2HfI74AgLIzhsJRHegTKR yMvaEB07F6wT6k+bdOzTQoAjJR+OFA== =1B+M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_2CD669E6-E992-4EDC-919E-538178EC524C-- From nobody Mon May 11 08:22:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BF23A0764 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 08:21:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.623 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.623 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.275, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MqVjWxgSGtJ6 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 08:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.proper.com (Opus1.Proper.COM [207.182.41.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 196C73A0484 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 08:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.32.60.115] (76-209-242-70.lightspeed.mtryca.sbcglobal.net [76.209.242.70]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.proper.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 04BFLhmW001255 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 08:21:43 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.proper.com: Host 76-209-242-70.lightspeed.mtryca.sbcglobal.net [76.209.242.70] claimed to be [10.32.60.115] From: "Paul Hoffman" To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 08:21:54 -0700 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.13.1r5671) Message-ID: <80687315-F5D6-4554-86E5-22DFE77FF1AA@vpnc.org> In-Reply-To: <21F4859F-7D60-42AD-958F-1531DBFE5376@gmail.com> References: <21F4859F-7D60-42AD-958F-1531DBFE5376@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft expiry nags? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 15:21:59 -0000 On 11 May 2020, at 8:03, Bob Hinden wrote: > I wonder if they are useful, They are useful to some of us. For example, I'm a minor co-author on a draft, but one of my jobs is to nudge the major authors to keep it moving. If you don't find them useful, they are easy to ignore. Some of us rely on them, even if just for minor things. --Paul Hoffman From nobody Mon May 11 08:42:44 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE353A07B9 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 08:42:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kfm0PvxER-i2 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 08:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot1-x334.google.com (mail-ot1-x334.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::334]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EAC63A07B6 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 08:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-x334.google.com with SMTP id i27so7870331ota.7 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 08:42:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5PkUw1KABs6oMplsgDeIL0x+qkB3Bft9alqQPTIWuGE=; b=saXzNAF2IpC6pNGjx+1tJAj7b0dutzomUFu6d/Oe4BNXpJSMDbjCYU+A+NdXPn4XyO baO7DB5ah23OMwXI8FaYnWsAxEIEqh1Vd42Yyb9QTYQyZ+ukUp37LEiloe0qLx/aYd3d 9824IvBBOEBvWFOUUw3Px+UPe1dR5c/DMoiUAx1901uxtPZoXTP/wGCoWYjteHBfWXUV HA4mPDdJU/kjah82FEG/jKsU6OKeA4nWf6G49BXz5cWJh7WkiMfYbcGwrcI8FgrN6PEw WajG9xnsW3SWqysfJSCS0MLDEMgBTnV1VdMxg9PZhhqtovcvMOel2UevPIEXfNudpw2O 5FNw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5PkUw1KABs6oMplsgDeIL0x+qkB3Bft9alqQPTIWuGE=; b=evr2zOhmmuYS0N349jn7/BZWT6JIjIq+kBpXr1Z5/lBEX/UE08Mul/P4NnNfu+vPtX Vyl8x69+jni86TbaLsGxELFDAp6RWvS9akWoUp9A2uwhBaYGBjW4wDdboNOPDgtp95xx Oq4ziim9OmwBDzpG2S6hxfZ98zJrI3VeQVmZNGsIVw1cuZXJMWly4FAZT+NjNHybeKJY hRXVEzD2C/1lYVd1Pb07I80xiluLADRFFxf85cEQLp8UUFb53xJx0F/k6ALYUx9hwmA9 Xb/YIxnqVUK6jD1b1IrX5DdIxWYlcnsoE3Z+Y6BH9TqWO68WSWiL1YfJi3reCd5wJ9Q3 H8yA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZaCC3PGb4+OkDKG2rA2MGAmuTysNz01UknvoASzu4L95pMvrxN VnNrI/T7KeWlI/mfK4VrJvC3jA2+wxgpgXdeTSA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJOM1QiBAZAtXuUnBAvE8gkIEsLcuAGELIYFbun5xWRFYoHlnw2HcUN+N4L5FJwxebyfgff2GbiF5Sofh1qByQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1d0:: with SMTP id r16mr14210726ota.4.1589211754750; Mon, 11 May 2020 08:42:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <21F4859F-7D60-42AD-958F-1531DBFE5376@gmail.com> <80687315-F5D6-4554-86E5-22DFE77FF1AA@vpnc.org> In-Reply-To: <80687315-F5D6-4554-86E5-22DFE77FF1AA@vpnc.org> From: Tim Wicinski Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 11:42:23 -0400 Message-ID: To: Paul Hoffman Cc: Tools Team Discussion Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001d88e305a56132b3" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Draft expiry nags? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 15:42:42 -0000 --0000000000001d88e305a56132b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I find the expiry notices very useful for us nagging working group chairs to poke recalcitrant draft authors. tim On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:22 AM Paul Hoffman wrote: > On 11 May 2020, at 8:03, Bob Hinden wrote: > > > I wonder if they are useful, > > They are useful to some of us. For example, I'm a minor co-author on a > draft, but one of my jobs is to nudge the major authors to keep it > moving. > > If you don't find them useful, they are easy to ignore. 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I= find the expiry notices very useful for us nagging working group chairs=C2= =A0
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tim


On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:22 AM Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> wrote:
On 11 May 2020, at= 8:03, Bob Hinden wrote:

> I wonder if they are useful,

They are useful to some of us. For example, I'm a minor co-author on a =
draft, but one of my jobs is to nudge the major authors to keep it
moving.

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tomorrow X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 00:08:02 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BED69C84FB0333A46037A451 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I ran into the same thing. I pulled a copy of requirements3.txt from the "Vancouver" code sprint and so far so good. Running tests now. On 5/18/20 12:52 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: > > Just pulled the latest docker image, found ‘requirements.txt’ not > ‘requirements3.txt’ > > Ran it and get errors. What am I missing? Tnx > >   > > DOCKER ~/dt/6.130.2.dev0$ ./docker/updatedb > > Gathering info ... > > Fetching database dump ... > > --2020-05-18 15:46:53--  > https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/sprint/ietf_utf8.sql.gz > > Resolving www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)... 104.20.1.85, 104.20.0.85, > 2606:4700:10::6814:55, ... > > Connecting to www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)|104.20.1.85|:443... connected. > > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK > > Length: 397663656 (379M) [application/x-gzip] > > Saving to: '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ietf_utf8.sql.gz' > >   > > ietf_utf8.sql.gz    100%[===================>] 379.24M  6.41MB/s    in > 57s     > >   > > 2020-05-18 15:47:50 (6.66 MB/s) - > '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ietf_utf8.sql.gz' saved > [397663656/397663656] > >   > > Loading database ... > > Traceback (most recent call last): > >   File "/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/ietf/manage.py", line 13, in > >     from django.core.management import execute_from_command_line > > ImportError: No module named django.core.management > >  72KiB [ 110MiB/s] [>                                         ]  > 0%            > > updatedb(137): Command failed with error code 1 ([982] ./docker/updatedb ) > >   > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org --------------BED69C84FB0333A46037A451 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

I ran into the same thing. I pulled a copy of requirements3.txt from the "Vancouver" code sprint and so far so good. Running tests now.

On 5/18/20 12:52 PM, Salz, Rich wrote:

Just pulled the latest docker image, found ‘requirements.txt’ not ‘requirements3.txt’

Ran it and get errors. What am I missing? Tnx

 

DOCKER ~/dt/6.130.2.dev0$ ./docker/updatedb

Gathering info ...

Fetching database dump ...

--2020-05-18 15:46:53--  https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/sprint/ietf_utf8.sql.gz

Resolving www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)... 104.20.1.85, 104.20.0.85, 2606:4700:10::6814:55, ...

Connecting to www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)|104.20.1.85|:443... connected.

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK

Length: 397663656 (379M) [application/x-gzip]

Saving to: '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ietf_utf8.sql.gz'

 

ietf_utf8.sql.gz    100%[===================>] 379.24M  6.41MB/s    in 57s    

 

2020-05-18 15:47:50 (6.66 MB/s) - '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ietf_utf8.sql.gz' saved [397663656/397663656]

 

Loading database ...

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/ietf/manage.py", line 13, in <module>

    from django.core.management import execute_from_command_line

ImportError: No module named django.core.management

 72KiB [ 110MiB/s] [>                                         ]  0%           

updatedb(137): Command failed with error code 1 ([982] ./docker/updatedb )

 


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b=omdE1tB9SAdr07+3r+8ny1qzdM/szc6H5oiFLA2r4xZAZ4nHe9ydjQURzKqN44PnX ypeqrdJO1k51qrTvq3+8Yd5wSPs1yjAYnV4Jz50P21LHjzFoi9oDXTUEYeBon43Q8n CAjiFHrVd9hcgumXtzZ9rT6StBw3ZYGUQ/dRxQ7bRnsQbjb398B5Ej+508AyTOaziF oWrkJTuyQ8YP7kIudUB79eiRE1luFZMgsKqbh3ZOwjxrQ5foY634WkDX+aiXDKCOIY IgCaT4d2vxIagm/Mrq2CRRhfATzzzujJRp7LJ9CD73H0XSsYaheoV3tji5SxEpfBZp FFpvNFDJepMmw== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-D27CF143-6FD4-40D3-897C-65A2A3D010F8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Pusateri Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 21:12:29 -0400 Message-Id: <32322902-FFF0-4B4F-A8A2-98C84A3A5696@bangj.com> References: <4B0B9324-3474-42F1-8018-119775806434@akamai.com> Cc: Jim Fenton , "tools-discuss@ietf.org" In-Reply-To: <4B0B9324-3474-42F1-8018-119775806434@akamai.com> To: "Salz, Rich" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17E262) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 01:12:36 -0000 --Apple-Mail-D27CF143-6FD4-40D3-897C-65A2A3D010F8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought requirements.txt was the new requirements3.txt. Python 2 is dead. T= he 3 is no longer a necessary distinguisher.=20 Tom > On May 18, 2020, at 8:31 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > Sam error, but I do see the Django files listed :( > =20 > From: Jim Fenton > Date: Monday, May 18, 2020 at 8:08 PM > To: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow > =20 > I ran into the same thing. I pulled a copy of requirements3.txt from the "= Vancouver" code sprint and so far so good. Running tests now. >=20 > On 5/18/20 12:52 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: > Just pulled the latest docker image, found =E2=80=98requirements.txt=E2=80= =99 not =E2=80=98requirements3.txt=E2=80=99 > Ran it and get errors. What am I missing? Tnx > =20 > DOCKER ~/dt/6.130.2.dev0$ ./docker/updatedb > Gathering info ... > Fetching database dump ... > --2020-05-18 15:46:53-- https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/sprint/ietf_utf8.sql.= gz > Resolving www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)... 104.20.1.85, 104.20.0.85, 2606:47= 00:10::6814:55, ... > Connecting to www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)|104.20.1.85|:443... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK > Length: 397663656 (379M) [application/x-gzip] > Saving to: '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ietf_utf8.sql.gz' > =20 > ietf_utf8.sql.gz 100%[=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D>] 379.24M 6.41MB/s in 57s =20 > =20 > 2020-05-18 15:47:50 (6.66 MB/s) - '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ietf_u= tf8.sql.gz' saved [397663656/397663656] > =20 > Loading database ... > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/ietf/manage.py", line 13, in > from django.core.management import execute_from_command_line > ImportError: No module named django.core.management > 72KiB [ 110MiB/s] [> ] 0% = =20 > updatedb(137): Command failed with error code 1 ([982] ./docker/updatedb )= > =20 >=20 >=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > =20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > =20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org --Apple-Mail-D27CF143-6FD4-40D3-897C-65A2A3D010F8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I thought requirements.txt= was the new requirements3.txt. Python 2 is dead. The  3 is no longer a= necessary distinguisher. 

Tom

On May 18, 2020= , at 8:31 PM, Salz, Rich <rsalz=3D40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:<= br>
=EF=BB=BF=

Sam error, but I do s= ee the Django files listed :(

 

From: Jim Fenton <fenton@bluepopcorn.net>
Date: Monday, May 18, 2020 at 8:08 PM
To: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" <tools-discuss@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow=

 

I ran into the same thing. I pulled a copy of requirements3.txt from the "= Vancouver" code sprint and so far so good. Running tests now.

=

On 5/18/20 12:52 PM, Salz, Rich wrote:

=

Just pulled the late= st docker image, found =E2=80=98requirements.txt=E2=80=99 not =E2=80=98requi= rements3.txt=E2=80=99

Ran it and get error= s. What am I missing? Tnx

 

DOCKER ~/dt/6.130.2.= dev0$ ./docker/updatedb

Gathering info ...

Fetching database du= mp ...

--2020-05-18 15:46:5= 3--  https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/sprint/ietf_utf8.sql.gz

Resolving www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)= ... 104.20.1.85, 104.20.0.85, 2606:4700:10::6814:55, ...

Connecting to www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)= |104.20.1.85|:443... connected.

HTTP request sent, a= waiting response... 200 OK

Length: 397663656 (3= 79M) [application/x-gzip]

Saving to: '/home/rs= alz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ietf_utf8.sql.gz'

 

ietf_utf8.sql.gz&nbs= p;   100%[=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= >] 379.24M  6.41MB/s    in 57s    = ;

 

2020-05-18 15:47:50 (= 6.66 MB/s) - '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ietf_utf8.sql.gz' saved [3976= 63656/397663656]

 

Loading database ...=

Traceback (most rece= nt call last):

  File "/home/r= salz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/ietf/manage.py", line 13, in <module>=

    f= rom django.core.management import execute_from_command_line

ImportError: No modu= le named django.core.management

 72KiB [ 110MiB= /s] [>           &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;    ]  0%       &n= bsp;   

updatedb(137): Comma= nd failed with error code 1 ([982] ./docker/updatedb )

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= --Apple-Mail-D27CF143-6FD4-40D3-897C-65A2A3D010F8-- From nobody Tue May 19 03:31:55 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F5E3A0BEC for ; Tue, 19 May 2020 03:31:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Icns87dq4S9l for ; Tue, 19 May 2020 03:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [64.170.98.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E22313A0A79 for ; Tue, 19 May 2020 03:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h-202-242.a357.priv.bahnhof.se ([158.174.202.242]:59618 helo=tannat.local) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1jazX7-0004fz-9l; Tue, 19 May 2020 03:31:39 -0700 To: Jim Fenton , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <99A9F020-83BC-4C3B-B8F4-BC9DA28A508F@akamai.com> From: Henrik Levkowetz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 12:31:23 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="p6FMwAq30L9lqU42GnqwQK6mn4Wx6E0pd" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, fenton@bluepopcorn.net X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 10:31:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --p6FMwAq30L9lqU42GnqwQK6mn4Wx6E0pd Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="TWjgLVHbkgpU2oqsFwhvQRBwHMDLCQ9VW"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Jim Fenton , tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow References: <99A9F020-83BC-4C3B-B8F4-BC9DA28A508F@akamai.com> In-Reply-To: --TWjgLVHbkgpU2oqsFwhvQRBwHMDLCQ9VW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh, bother. I realise that I made the latest binary database dump from trunk, but trunk now uses Django 2.0, which won't work with the 6.130.1 release which still has Django 1.11, and there's one field that has changed with the revision change. I'll do a new dump immediately. Sorry for the extra bother! Henrik On 2020-05-19 02:07, Jim Fenton wrote: > I ran into the same thing. I pulled a copy of requirements3.txt from th= e > "Vancouver" code sprint and so far so good. Running tests now. >=20 > On 5/18/20 12:52 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: >> >> Just pulled the latest docker image, found =E2=80=98requirements.txt=E2= =80=99 not >> =E2=80=98requirements3.txt=E2=80=99 >> >> Ran it and get errors. What am I missing? Tnx >> >> =20 >> >> DOCKER ~/dt/6.130.2.dev0$ ./docker/updatedb >> >> Gathering info ... >> >> Fetching database dump ... >> >> --2020-05-18 15:46:53--=20 >> https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/sprint/ietf_utf8.sql.gz >> >> Resolving www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)... 104.20.1.85, 104.20.0.85, >> 2606:4700:10::6814:55, ... >> >> Connecting to www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)|104.20.1.85|:443... connecte= d. >> >> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK >> >> Length: 397663656 (379M) [application/x-gzip] >> >> Saving to: '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ietf_utf8.sql.gz' >> >> =20 >> >> ietf_utf8.sql.gz 100%[=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D>] 379.24M 6.41MB/s in >> 57s =20 >> >> =20 >> >> 2020-05-18 15:47:50 (6.66 MB/s) - >> '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ietf_utf8.sql.gz' saved >> [397663656/397663656] >> >> =20 >> >> Loading database ... >> >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> >> File "/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/ietf/manage.py", line 13, in >> >> from django.core.management import execute_from_command_line >> >> ImportError: No module named django.core.management >> >> 72KiB [ 110MiB/s] [> ]=20 >> 0% =20 >> >> updatedb(137): Command failed with error code 1 ([982] ./docker/update= db ) >> >> =20 >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >> >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >=20 >=20 >=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >=20 --TWjgLVHbkgpU2oqsFwhvQRBwHMDLCQ9VW-- --p6FMwAq30L9lqU42GnqwQK6mn4Wx6E0pd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <32322902-FFF0-4B4F-A8A2-98C84A3A5696@bangj.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FrXMKScGtj5Ob92bAwdHtxRWjI4TJLoNs" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org, pusateri=40bangj.com@dmarc.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 10:33:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --FrXMKScGtj5Ob92bAwdHtxRWjI4TJLoNs Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="5ESKkieAohQVbvQpamfQUIoftVVTD2ABm"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: Tom Pusateri , "Salz, Rich" Cc: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Message-ID: <2efcb7ec-a5b6-e56a-d1dd-70fe2d3d1cc0@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow References: <4B0B9324-3474-42F1-8018-119775806434@akamai.com> <32322902-FFF0-4B4F-A8A2-98C84A3A5696@bangj.com> In-Reply-To: <32322902-FFF0-4B4F-A8A2-98C84A3A5696@bangj.com> --5ESKkieAohQVbvQpamfQUIoftVVTD2ABm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2020-05-19 03:12, Tom Pusateri wrote: > I thought requirements.txt was the new requirements3.txt. Python 2 is > dead. The 3 is no longer a necessary distinguisher. That's correct. Henrik > Tom >=20 >> On May 18, 2020, at 8:31 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BF >> Sam error, but I do see the Django files listed :( >> =20 >> From: Jim Fenton >> Date: Monday, May 18, 2020 at 8:08 PM >> To: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" >> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow >> =20 >> I ran into the same thing. I pulled a copy of requirements3.txt from t= he "Vancouver" code sprint and so far so good. Running tests now. >>=20 >> On 5/18/20 12:52 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: >> Just pulled the latest docker image, found =E2=80=98requirements.txt=E2= =80=99 not =E2=80=98requirements3.txt=E2=80=99 >> Ran it and get errors. What am I missing? Tnx >> =20 >> DOCKER ~/dt/6.130.2.dev0$ ./docker/updatedb >> Gathering info ... >> Fetching database dump ... >> --2020-05-18 15:46:53-- https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/sprint/ietf_utf8.= sql.gz >> Resolving www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)... 104.20.1.85, 104.20.0.85, 260= 6:4700:10::6814:55, ... >> Connecting to www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)|104.20.1.85|:443... connecte= d. >> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK >> Length: 397663656 (379M) [application/x-gzip] >> Saving to: '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ietf_utf8.sql.gz' >> =20 >> ietf_utf8.sql.gz 100%[=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D>] 379.24M 6.41MB/s in 57s =20 >> =20 >> 2020-05-18 15:47:50 (6.66 MB/s) - '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ie= tf_utf8.sql.gz' saved [397663656/397663656] >> =20 >> Loading database ... >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/ietf/manage.py", line 13, in >> from django.core.management import execute_from_command_line >> ImportError: No module named django.core.management >> 72KiB [ 110MiB/s] [> ] 0% = =20 >> updatedb(137): Command failed with error code 1 ([982] ./docker/update= db ) >> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> =20 >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >> =20 >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>=20 >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >>=20 >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >=20 >=20 >=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >=20 --5ESKkieAohQVbvQpamfQUIoftVVTD2ABm-- --FrXMKScGtj5Ob92bAwdHtxRWjI4TJLoNs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B0B9324-3474-42F1-8018-119775806434@akamai.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jWPqpJAIhSQfMuChk3mJhnUaA6iTfB9a8" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, fenton@bluepopcorn.net, rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 10:46:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --jWPqpJAIhSQfMuChk3mJhnUaA6iTfB9a8 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="JsRov7HDa2sXPkpdQWN6B89QAVUjvkjCn"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: "Salz, Rich" , Jim Fenton , "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Message-ID: <85cc3076-9831-61ec-e84e-4b9a6a1b7af7@levkowetz.com> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow References: <99A9F020-83BC-4C3B-B8F4-BC9DA28A508F@akamai.com> <4B0B9324-3474-42F1-8018-119775806434@akamai.com> In-Reply-To: <4B0B9324-3474-42F1-8018-119775806434@akamai.com> --JsRov7HDa2sXPkpdQWN6B89QAVUjvkjCn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rich, This seems like a different issue than I thought at first. The issue wit= h the database dump is real, but I think your issue below is that your environment isn't right. As the first thing after starting and entering your docker container, ple= ase run, at the top of your working copy directory tree: $ python3.6 -m venv env $ . env/bin/activate $ pip install -r requirements.txt in order to make sure that 1) you have a Python 3.6 environment in your container, and 2) you have the right python packages installed. Best regards, Henrik On 2020-05-19 02:30, Salz, Rich wrote: > Sam error, but I do see the Django files listed :( >=20 > From: Jim Fenton > Date: Monday, May 18, 2020 at 8:08 PM > To: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" > Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow >=20 >=20 > I ran into the same thing. I pulled a copy of requirements3.txt from th= e "Vancouver" code sprint and so far so good. Running tests now. > On 5/18/20 12:52 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: > Just pulled the latest docker image, found =E2=80=98requirements.txt=E2= =80=99 not =E2=80=98requirements3.txt=E2=80=99 > Ran it and get errors. What am I missing? Tnx >=20 > DOCKER ~/dt/6.130.2.dev0$ ./docker/updatedb > Gathering info ... > Fetching database dump ... > --2020-05-18 15:46:53-- https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/sprint/ietf_utf8.s= ql.gz > Resolving www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)... = 104.20.1.85, 104.20.0.85, 2606:4700:10::6814:55, ... > Connecting to www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)|= 104.20.1.85|:443... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK > Length: 397663656 (379M) [application/x-gzip] > Saving to: '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ietf_utf8.sql.gz' >=20 > ietf_utf8.sql.gz 100%[=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D>] 379.24M 6.41MB/s in 57s >=20 > 2020-05-18 15:47:50 (6.66 MB/s) - '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/iet= f_utf8.sql.gz' saved [397663656/397663656] >=20 > Loading database ... > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/ietf/manage.py", line 13, in > from django.core.management import execute_from_command_line > ImportError: No module named django.core.management > 72KiB [ 110MiB/s] [> ] 0% > updatedb(137): Command failed with error code 1 ([982] ./docker/updated= b ) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ___________________________________________________________ >=20 > Tools-discuss mailing list >=20 > Tools-discuss@ietf.org >=20 > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 >=20 >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >=20 > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >=20 > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 >=20 >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >=20 > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >=20 >=20 >=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >=20 --JsRov7HDa2sXPkpdQWN6B89QAVUjvkjCn-- --jWPqpJAIhSQfMuChk3mJhnUaA6iTfB9a8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <85cc3076-9831-61ec-e84e-4b9a6a1b7af7@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="702cKrExrJh7Xwf8iJ2DRES9emeS9kXl3" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 158.174.202.242 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, fenton@bluepopcorn.net, rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 12:32:45 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --702cKrExrJh7Xwf8iJ2DRES9emeS9kXl3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="TNXLw2FrAQwTRoR0xNbUrKCRnKELrK86i"; protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: "Salz, Rich" , Jim Fenton , "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow References: <99A9F020-83BC-4C3B-B8F4-BC9DA28A508F@akamai.com> <4B0B9324-3474-42F1-8018-119775806434@akamai.com> <85cc3076-9831-61ec-e84e-4b9a6a1b7af7@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <85cc3076-9831-61ec-e84e-4b9a6a1b7af7@levkowetz.com> --TNXLw2FrAQwTRoR0xNbUrKCRnKELrK86i Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've found one additional tweak that's needed: After the release of 6.130.1, a new version of the 'django-cors-headers' package has come out, and it's incompatible with Django 1.11. In order to fix this, please run, in the docker container, after you've run 'pip install -r requirements.txt', this command: $ pip install "django-cors-headers<3.3" Best regards, Henrik =20 On 2020-05-19 12:46, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Rich, >=20 > This seems like a different issue than I thought at first. The issue w= ith > the database dump is real, but I think your issue below is that your > environment isn't right. >=20 > As the first thing after starting and entering your docker container, p= lease > run, at the top of your working copy directory tree: >=20 > $ python3.6 -m venv env > $ . env/bin/activate > $ pip install -r requirements.txt >=20 > in order to make sure that 1) you have a Python 3.6 environment in your= > container, and 2) you have the right python packages installed. >=20 >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Henrik >=20 > On 2020-05-19 02:30, Salz, Rich wrote: >> Sam error, but I do see the Django files listed :( >>=20 >> From: Jim Fenton >> Date: Monday, May 18, 2020 at 8:08 PM >> To: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" >> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow >>=20 >>=20 >> I ran into the same thing. I pulled a copy of requirements3.txt from t= he "Vancouver" code sprint and so far so good. Running tests now. >> On 5/18/20 12:52 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: >> Just pulled the latest docker image, found =E2=80=98requirements.txt=E2= =80=99 not =E2=80=98requirements3.txt=E2=80=99 >> Ran it and get errors. What am I missing? Tnx >>=20 >> DOCKER ~/dt/6.130.2.dev0$ ./docker/updatedb >> Gathering info ... >> Fetching database dump ... >> --2020-05-18 15:46:53-- https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/sprint/ietf_utf8.= sql.gz >> Resolving www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org).= =2E. 104.20.1.85, 104.20.0.85, 2606:4700:10::6814:55, ... >> Connecting to www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)|= 104.20.1.85|:443... connected. >> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK >> Length: 397663656 (379M) [application/x-gzip] >> Saving to: '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ietf_utf8.sql.gz' >>=20 >> ietf_utf8.sql.gz 100%[=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D>] 379.24M 6.41MB/s in 57s >>=20 >> 2020-05-18 15:47:50 (6.66 MB/s) - '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ie= tf_utf8.sql.gz' saved [397663656/397663656] >>=20 >> Loading database ... >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/ietf/manage.py", line 13, in >> from django.core.management import execute_from_command_line >> ImportError: No module named django.core.management >> 72KiB [ 110MiB/s] [> ] 0% >> updatedb(137): Command failed with error code 1 ([982] ./docker/update= db ) >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ___________________________________________________________ >>=20 >> Tools-discuss mailing list >>=20 >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>=20 >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >>=20 >> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >>=20 >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >>=20 >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >>=20 >> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>=20 >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org >> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >>=20 >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >=20 --TNXLw2FrAQwTRoR0xNbUrKCRnKELrK86i-- --702cKrExrJh7Xwf8iJ2DRES9emeS9kXl3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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protected-headers="v1" From: Henrik Levkowetz To: "Salz, Rich" , Jim Fenton , "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow References: <99A9F020-83BC-4C3B-B8F4-BC9DA28A508F@akamai.com> <4B0B9324-3474-42F1-8018-119775806434@akamai.com> <85cc3076-9831-61ec-e84e-4b9a6a1b7af7@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: --QTn8Ti0RWKOmXc3P3akxmA1QxLAV7Cshb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2020-05-19 15:29, Salz, Rich wrote: > Do I need to always run under the python venv? Anything else courts unexpected issues, so pretty much 'Yes'. > =EF=BB=BFOn 5/19/20, 8:33 AM, "Henrik Levkowetz" = wrote: >=20 >=20 > I've found one additional tweak that's needed: >=20 > After the release of 6.130.1, a new version of the 'django-cors-hea= ders' > package has come out, and it's incompatible with Django 1.11. >=20 > In order to fix this, please run, in the docker container, after yo= u've > run 'pip install -r requirements.txt', this command: >=20 > $ pip install "django-cors-headers<3.3" >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Henrik >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 2020-05-19 12:46, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > Hi Rich, > >=20 > > This seems like a different issue than I thought at first. The i= ssue with > > the database dump is real, but I think your issue below is that y= our > > environment isn't right. > >=20 > > As the first thing after starting and entering your docker contai= ner, please > > run, at the top of your working copy directory tree: > >=20 > > $ python3.6 -m venv env > > $ . env/bin/activate > > $ pip install -r requirements.txt > >=20 > > in order to make sure that 1) you have a Python 3.6 environment i= n your > > container, and 2) you have the right python packages installed. > >=20 > >=20 > > Best regards, > >=20 > > Henrik > >=20 > > On 2020-05-19 02:30, Salz, Rich wrote: > >> Sam error, but I do see the Django files listed :( > >>=20 > >> From: Jim Fenton > >> Date: Monday, May 18, 2020 at 8:08 PM > >> To: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" > >> Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] setting up for code sprint tomorrow= > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> I ran into the same thing. I pulled a copy of requirements3.txt = from the "Vancouver" code sprint and so far so good. Running tests now. > >> On 5/18/20 12:52 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: > >> Just pulled the latest docker image, found =E2=80=98requirements= =2Etxt=E2=80=99 not =E2=80=98requirements3.txt=E2=80=99 > >> Ran it and get errors. What am I missing? Tnx > >>=20 > >> DOCKER ~/dt/6.130.2.dev0$ ./docker/updatedb > >> Gathering info ... > >> Fetching database dump ... > >> --2020-05-18 15:46:53-- https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/sprint/ietf= _utf8.sql.gz > >> Resolving www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)... 104.20.1.85, 104.20.0.85, 2606:4700:10::6814:55, ... > >> Connecting to www.ietf.org (www.ietf.org)|104.20.1.85|:443... connected. > >> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK > >> Length: 397663656 (379M) [application/x-gzip] > >> Saving to: '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/data/ietf_utf8.sql.gz' > >>=20 > >> ietf_utf8.sql.gz 100%[=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>] 379.24M 6.41MB/s in 57s > >>=20 > >> 2020-05-18 15:47:50 (6.66 MB/s) - '/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/d= ata/ietf_utf8.sql.gz' saved [397663656/397663656] > >>=20 > >> Loading database ... > >> Traceback (most recent call last): > >> File "/home/rsalz/dt/6.130.2.dev0/ietf/manage.py", line 13, in= > >> from django.core.management import execute_from_command_line= > >> ImportError: No module named django.core.management > >> 72KiB [ 110MiB/s] [> ] = 0% > >> updatedb(137): Command failed with error code 1 ([982] ./docker/= updatedb ) > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> ___________________________________________________________ > >>=20 > >> Tools-discuss mailing list > >>=20 > >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org > >>=20 > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > >>=20 > >> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > >>=20 > >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > >>=20 > >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > >>=20 > >> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> ___________________________________________________________ > >> Tools-discuss mailing list > >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > >>=20 > >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > >> bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > >> or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > >>=20 > >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > >> or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > >>=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Tools-discuss mailing list > > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > >=20 > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > >=20 > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > >=20 >=20 >=20 > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org >=20 > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >=20 --QTn8Ti0RWKOmXc3P3akxmA1QxLAV7Cshb-- --dsPflRl9e4pSfNqnfVjs6A1kPMt4TJTmD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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(was Re: Registration details for IETF 108) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 14:02:03 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain IETF Executive Director wrote: > As this is a fully online meeting, there are two key changes in the > meeting process for you to be aware of: ... > 2. All participants will need a Datatracker account in order to > authenticate with Meetecho. If you do not already have an account then > one will be created for you during registration and you will receive a > password setup link by email. I think that this is a significant and well-overdue process! Thank you. 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(was Re: Registration details for IETF 108) X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 21:17:51 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_998C7FC0-36CB-4556-83AE-A51B7C146B6F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On 29/05/2020, at 2:38 AM, Salz, Rich = wrote: >=20 >> 2. All participants will need a Datatracker account in order to >> authenticate with Meetecho. If you do not already have an account = then >> one will be created for you during registration and you will receive = a >> password setup link by email. >=20 > Should it also contain a link to the Note Well? Do you mean in the email or somewhere else? Jay >=20 > --=20 > Ietf108planning mailing list > Ietf108planning@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf108planning >=20 --=20 Jay Daley IETF Executive Director jay@ietf.org --Apple-Mail=_998C7FC0-36CB-4556-83AE-A51B7C146B6F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

On 29/05/2020, at 2:38 AM, Salz, Rich <rsalz=3D40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

2.  All = participants will need a Datatracker account in order to
authenticate with Meetecho.  If you do not already have = an account then
one will be created for you during = registration and you will receive a
password setup link by = email.

Should it also contain = a link to the Note Well?

Do you mean in the email or somewhere = else?

Jay


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