From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Mon Dec 2 18:43:27 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA18008 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 18:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gB2NisL19280; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 18:44:54 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 18:44:54 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212022344.gB2NisL19280@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB2NiqA19250 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 18:44:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (mail-out2.apple.com [17.254.0.51]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03658 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 18:44:52 -0500 Received: from mailgate2.apple.com (A17-129-100-225.apple.com [17.129.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gB2NioI05167 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 15:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from scv2.apple.com (scv2.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 15:44:50 -0800 Received: from apple.com (luthji.apple.com [17.202.43.76]) by scv2.apple.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gB2Ninp21928 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 15:44:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 15:44:49 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v548) From: Jim Luther To: In-Reply-To: <000101c29688$4cab0430$620afea9@xythoslap> Message-Id: <0BAD5363-0650-11D7-9E2D-0003934B6A22@apple.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.548) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by frink.w3.org id gB2NiqA19250 Subject: Re: Quota draft issues from Atlanta WG mtg. Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7072 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 06:46 PM, Lisa Dusseault wrote: > > > The quota draft was very briefly discussed in the WG meeting > inAtlanta.  > > ... > > The second open issue was whether to rename the property names from > “*-bytes” to “*-octets”.  The consensus of the attendees was not to > bother. I still think "octets" is more accurate and that is a good reason to use "octets" instead of "bytes". - Jim From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Mon Dec 2 19:55:55 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA19892 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:55:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gB30vKC09837; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:57:20 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:57:20 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212030057.gB30vKC09837@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB30vIA09811 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:57:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from dream.darwin.nasa.gov (betlik.darwin.nasa.gov [198.123.160.11]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25930 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:57:18 -0500 Received: from cse.ucsc.edu (paperweight.darwin.nasa.gov [198.123.160.27]) by dream.darwin.nasa.gov ( -- Info omitted by ASANI Solutions, LLC.) with ESMTP id gB30vBh02864 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:57:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3DEC0167.2010801@cse.ucsc.edu> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 16:57:11 -0800 From: Elias Sinderson Reply-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020920 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: w3c-dist-auth@w3c.org References: <0BAD5363-0650-11D7-9E2D-0003934B6A22@apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Quota draft issues from Atlanta WG mtg. Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7073 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I agree, but at the very least a footnote should define bytes as 8-bit bytes... It seems trivial, but I'd wager that at least one implementation will be saved a lot of headache by this simple definition. Elias Jim Luther wrote: > On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 06:46 PM, Lisa Dusseault wrote: > >> The quota draft was very briefly discussed in the WG meeting inAtlanta. >> ... >> The second open issue was whether to rename the property names from >> “*-bytes” to “*-octets”. The consensus of the attendees was not to >> bother. > > I still think "octets" is more accurate and that is a good reason to > use "octets" instead of "bytes". > - Jim From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Mon Dec 2 20:01:55 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA20078 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gB313jr11018; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:03:45 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:03:45 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212030103.gB313jr11018@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB313hA10988 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (mail-out2.apple.com [17.254.0.51]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27476 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:03:43 -0500 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (A17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gB313gI19282 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:03:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from scv1.apple.com (scv1.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:03:20 -0800 Received: from apple.com (luthji.apple.com [17.202.43.76]) by scv1.apple.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gB313gu08307 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:03:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:03:41 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v548) From: Jim Luther To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org In-Reply-To: <3DEC0167.2010801@cse.ucsc.edu> Message-Id: <10485424-065B-11D7-9E2D-0003934B6A22@apple.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.548) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by frink.w3.org id gB313hA10988 Subject: Re: Quota draft issues from Atlanta WG mtg. Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7074 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'd be very surprised if anyone has shipped an implementation using the "*-bytes" property names yet (I know Apple hasn't because we're waiting for a consensus on the issues), so this is probably the best time to make a name change. - Jim On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 04:57 PM, Elias Sinderson wrote: > > I agree, but at the very least a footnote should define bytes as 8-bit > bytes... It seems trivial, but I'd wager that at least one > implementation will be saved a lot of headache by this simple > definition. > > Elias > > > Jim Luther wrote: > >> On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 06:46 PM, Lisa Dusseault wrote: >> >>> The quota draft was very briefly discussed in the WG meeting >>> inAtlanta. ... >>> The second open issue was whether to rename the property names from >>> “*-bytes” to “*-octets”. The consensus of the attendees was not to >>> bother. >> >> I still think "octets" is more accurate and that is a good reason to >> use "octets" instead of "bytes". >> - Jim > > > From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Tue Dec 3 16:43:01 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA20235 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 16:43:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gB3LiS811372; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 16:44:28 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 16:44:28 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212032144.gB3LiS811372@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB3LiJA11247 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 16:44:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from post.webmailer.de (natsmtp01.webmailer.de [192.67.198.81]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05364 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 16:44:19 -0500 From: Edgar@edgarschwarz.de Received: from x.oberon.ethz.ch (dialin-212-144-128-073.arcor-ip.net [212.144.128.73]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA23664; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 22:44:13 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 22:44:13 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200212032144.WAA23664@post.webmailer.de> X-Mailer: Oberon Mail (ejz) on Aos 25.3.2002 To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Cc: Edgar@edgarschwarz.de Subject: Re (2): Quota draft issues from Atlanta WG mtg. Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7075 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Jim Luther wrote: > I'd be very surprised if anyone has shipped an implementation using the > "*-bytes" property names yet (I know Apple hasn't because we're waiting > for a consensus on the issues), so this is probably the best time to > make a name change. I agree. At first I wondered about the discussion. For me a byte had 8 bits. But octets avoids all discussions how many bits it has. So now would be the time to change. Cheers, Edgar P.S. I didn't get any reaction on some earlier posts. But I guess silence means disagreement :-), so it's ok. -- edgar@edgarschwarz.de http://www.edgarschwarz.de * DOSenfreie Zone. Running Active Oberon. * Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler. Albert Einstein From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Tue Dec 3 16:46:55 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA20364 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 16:46:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gB3LmsH12196; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 16:48:54 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 16:48:54 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212032148.gB3LmsH12196@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB3LmqA12170 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 16:48:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.xythos.com (sdsl-216-36-77-241.dsl.sjc.megapath.net [216.36.77.241]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06404 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 16:48:51 -0500 Received: from ravms by mail.xythos.com with mail-ok (Exim 3.36 #3) id 18JL4B-0000iW-00 for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 21:58:55 +0000 Received: from [216.36.77.241] (helo=xythoslap) by mail.xythos.com with asmtp (Exim 3.36 #3) id 18JL4B-0000iL-00 for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 21:58:55 +0000 From: "Lisa Dusseault" To: Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 13:48:43 -0800 Message-ID: <001601c29b15$c02e3f30$b701a8c0@xythoslap> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <200212032144.WAA23664@post.webmailer.de> Old-X-Envelope-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: Quota draft issues from Atlanta WG mtg. Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7076 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Current plan: I'll change it to octets. I had a hard time determining consensus on this one given the reaction at the in-person meeting. lisa > -----Original Message----- > From: Edgar@EdgarSchwarz.de [mailto:Edgar@EdgarSchwarz.de] > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 1:44 PM > To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org > Cc: Edgar@EdgarSchwarz.de > Subject: Re (2): Quota draft issues from Atlanta WG mtg. > > > Jim Luther wrote: > > I'd be very surprised if anyone has shipped an implementation using the > > "*-bytes" property names yet (I know Apple hasn't because we're waiting > > for a consensus on the issues), so this is probably the best time to > > make a name change. > I agree. At first I wondered about the discussion. For me a byte had 8 > bits. > But octets avoids all discussions how many bits it has. So now would be > the > time to change. > > Cheers, Edgar > > P.S. I didn't get any reaction on some earlier posts. But I guess silence > means disagreement :-), so it's ok. > > > -- > edgar@edgarschwarz.de http://www.edgarschwarz.de > * DOSenfreie Zone. Running Active Oberon. * > Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler. Albert Einstein > From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Tue Dec 3 17:06:58 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA21585 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gB3M8tS14850; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:08:55 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:08:55 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212032208.gB3M8tS14850@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB3M8sA14824 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:08:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from inet-mail1.oracle.com (inet-mail1.oracle.com [148.87.2.201]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11196 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:08:53 -0500 Received: from inet-mail1.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet-mail1.oracle.com (Switch-2.2.3/Switch-2.2.3) with ESMTP id gB3M8MQ04729 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:08:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rgmgw6.us.oracle.com (rgmgw6.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.15]) by inet-mail1.oracle.com (Switch-2.2.3/Switch-2.2.3) with ESMTP id gB3M8Mj04709 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:08:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rgmum6.us.oracle.com (rgmum6.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.27]) by rgmgw6.us.oracle.com (Switch-2.1.3/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id gB3M8Lk14072 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 15:08:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from dhcp-4op7-4op8-west-130-35-170-44.us.oracle.com by rgmum1.us.oracle.com with ESMTP id 9903301038953240; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 15:07:20 -0600 Message-ID: <016b01c29b18$71615600$2caa2382@us.oracle.com> From: "Eric Sedlar" To: "Lisa Dusseault" , References: <001601c29b15$c02e3f30$b701a8c0@xythoslap> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:07:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: Re: Quota draft issues from Atlanta WG mtg. Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7077 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the consensus at the WG meeting was that using the word "octet" was dumb, as we don't refer to "mega-octets" rather than megabytes, but that we should clarify that "byte" refers to 8 bits for the sticklers. --Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Dusseault" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Quota draft issues from Atlanta WG mtg. > > Current plan: I'll change it to octets. I had a hard time determining > consensus on this one given the reaction at the in-person meeting. > > lisa > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Edgar@EdgarSchwarz.de [mailto:Edgar@EdgarSchwarz.de] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 1:44 PM > > To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org > > Cc: Edgar@EdgarSchwarz.de > > Subject: Re (2): Quota draft issues from Atlanta WG mtg. > > > > > > Jim Luther wrote: > > > I'd be very surprised if anyone has shipped an implementation using > the > > > "*-bytes" property names yet (I know Apple hasn't because we're > waiting > > > for a consensus on the issues), so this is probably the best time to > > > make a name change. > > I agree. At first I wondered about the discussion. For me a byte had 8 > > bits. > > But octets avoids all discussions how many bits it has. So now would > be > > the > > time to change. > > > > Cheers, Edgar > > > > P.S. I didn't get any reaction on some earlier posts. But I guess > silence > > means disagreement :-), so it's ok. > > > > > > -- > > edgar@edgarschwarz.de http://www.edgarschwarz.de > > * DOSenfreie Zone. Running Active Oberon. * > > Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler. Albert Einstein > > > > > > From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Tue Dec 3 19:37:22 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA27162 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 19:37:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gB40XpK01991; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 19:33:51 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 19:33:51 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212040033.gB40XpK01991@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB40XnA01961 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 19:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA12735 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 19:33:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 6822 invoked by uid 0); 4 Dec 2002 00:33:17 -0000 Received: from pd950c3fd.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO lisa) (217.80.195.253) by mail.gmx.net (mp018-rz3) with SMTP; 4 Dec 2002 00:33:17 -0000 From: "Julian Reschke" To: "Eric Sedlar" , "Lisa Dusseault" , Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 01:33:15 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <016b01c29b18$71615600$2caa2382@us.oracle.com> Subject: RE: Quota draft issues from Atlanta WG mtg. Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7078 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well. This is an application of WebDAV, and WebDAV is an extension to HTTP. Can't we just stick to HTTP terminology? -- bytes GmbH -- http://www.greenbytes.de -- tel:+492512807760 > -----Original Message----- > From: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org > [mailto:w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Eric Sedlar > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:08 PM > To: Lisa Dusseault; w3c-dist-auth@w3.org > Subject: Re: Quota draft issues from Atlanta WG mtg. > > > > I think the consensus at the WG meeting was that using the word > "octet" was > dumb, as we don't refer to "mega-octets" rather than megabytes, > but that we > should clarify that "byte" refers to 8 bits for the sticklers. > > --Eric > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lisa Dusseault" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 1:48 PM > Subject: Re: Quota draft issues from Atlanta WG mtg. > > > > > > Current plan: I'll change it to octets. I had a hard time determining > > consensus on this one given the reaction at the in-person meeting. > > > > lisa > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Edgar@EdgarSchwarz.de [mailto:Edgar@EdgarSchwarz.de] > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 1:44 PM > > > To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org > > > Cc: Edgar@EdgarSchwarz.de > > > Subject: Re (2): Quota draft issues from Atlanta WG mtg. > > > > > > > > > Jim Luther wrote: > > > > I'd be very surprised if anyone has shipped an implementation using > > the > > > > "*-bytes" property names yet (I know Apple hasn't because we're > > waiting > > > > for a consensus on the issues), so this is probably the best time to > > > > make a name change. > > > I agree. At first I wondered about the discussion. For me a byte had 8 > > > bits. > > > But octets avoids all discussions how many bits it has. So now would > > be > > > the > > > time to change. > > > > > > Cheers, Edgar > > > > > > P.S. I didn't get any reaction on some earlier posts. But I guess > > silence > > > means disagreement :-), so it's ok. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > edgar@edgarschwarz.de http://www.edgarschwarz.de > > > * DOSenfreie Zone. Running Active Oberon. * > > > Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler. Albert Einstein > > > > > > > > > > > > From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Wed Dec 4 10:51:35 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA17924 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gB4Fqx817649; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:52:59 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:52:59 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212041552.gB4Fqx817649@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB4FqvA17623 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from nhweb.newgen.co.in ([202.89.68.162]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22829 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:52:55 -0500 Received: from anil (ws208.newgen.co.in [192.168.5.208]) by nhweb.newgen.co.in (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with SMTP id gB4FsMar010801 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 21:24:22 +0530 Message-ID: <002a01c29bae$9b1f9bf0$d005a8c0@anil> From: "Anil Bhandari" To: Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 21:32:54 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C29BDC.B4902090" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: Multiple login issue Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7079 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C29BDC.B4902090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am working with a company that works in Document Management Systems. = It has its own DMS. And i have written WebDAV server to access the = shared repository of this DMS. I am following the RFC 2518. The exact scenario in which i am working is as follows: - I'm using Tomcat4.0 and have written the WebDAV server using RFC = 2518. - and using Microsoft WebFolders to access the DMS repository. =20 Now i am facing two majors problems: 1. First is regarding Multiple Logins. Actually, i have used the Tomcat = Authentication module. So, whenever a user wants to access the shared = repository of the DMS through Microsoft WebFolders, he/she has to go = through the authentication procedure. Once authenticated, he can access = the DMS contents. But whenever he opens resources through webfolders = which open in Microsoft native applicaions like MS Word, Office, = Internet Explorer etc, he is prompted for authentication again although = he has already been authenticated. Therefore a single user makes = multiple connections at the server. I want to find a solution so that a = user is authenticated only once. 2. Also there is no means to disconnect the user from the server while = using WebFolders. I also want to ask is there anyway to disconnect the = user. These are the major issues that are halting my progress. therefore, = please help me to resolve these issues. Thanx a lot. Anil Bhandari ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C29BDC.B4902090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I am working with a company that = works in=20 Document Management Systems. It has = its own DMS.=20 And i have written WebDAV server to access the shared repository of this = DMS. I=20 am following the RFC 2518.
The exact scenario in which i am = working is as=20 follows:
 -  I'm using Tomcat4.0 and = have written=20 the WebDAV server using RFC 2518.
 -  and using Microsoft = WebFolders to=20 access the DMS  repository.
 
Now i am facing two majors = problems:
1.  First is regarding Multiple = Logins.=20 Actually, i have used the Tomcat Authentication module. So, = whenever a user=20 wants to access the shared repository of the DMS through Microsoft = WebFolders,=20 he/she has to go through the authentication procedure. Once = authenticated,=20 he can access the DMS contents. But whenever he opens resources through=20 webfolders which open in Microsoft native applicaions like MS Word, = Office,=20 Internet Explorer etc, he is prompted for authentication again = although he=20 has already been authenticated. Therefore a single user makes multiple=20 connections at the server. I want to find a solution so that a user is=20 authenticated only once.
2. Also there is no means to disconnect = the user=20 from the server while using WebFolders. I also want to ask is there = anyway to=20 disconnect the user.
 
These are the major issues that are = halting my=20 progress. therefore, please help me to resolve these = issues.
Thanx a lot.
 
Anil Bhandari
 
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C29BC9.C16B6D50-- From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Fri Dec 6 05:12:33 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA00834 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gB6ADUw04637; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:13:30 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:13:30 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212061013.gB6ADUw04637@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB6ADRA04601 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:13:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.questech.co.in ([164.164.94.248]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA05588 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:13:18 -0500 Received: from questech.co.in (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.questech.co.in (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB6AFYT20302 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:45:34 +0530 From: "prabahar" To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:45:34 +0530 Message-Id: <20021206101534.M36798@questech.co.in> X-Mailer: Questech WebMail 1.70 20020712 X-OriginatingIP: 164.164.94.247 (prabahar) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: webdav with tomcat 4.1.x X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/20021206101534.M36798@questech.co.in Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7082 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Hi, I am working on Tomcat 4.1.x for a project. My project has a requirement to have web folders for uploading images that can be viewed in the site, that we are developing. The number of image files will be very large and that will be a daily operation. I wana know more about how I can use webdav that is implemented in tomcat 4.1.x for this. Since I was not able to get more documentation on the 4.1.x. I say the slide project but i dont need that much for my project. I just need to give authentication for the webfolders folders dynamically. Thanks in advance, Prabahar _____________________________________________________________________ Any Opinions, explicit or implied, are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Questech. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. _____________________________________________________________________ From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Mon Dec 9 13:54:04 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA24700 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:54:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gB9ItST11565; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:55:28 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:55:28 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212091855.gB9ItST11565@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB9ItMA11513 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ucsc.edu (cats-mx2.ucsc.edu [128.114.129.35]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13192 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:55:18 -0500 Received: from Tycho (dhcp-55-196.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.55.196]) by ucsc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id gB9It9c23223 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:55:09 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Whitehead" To: "WebDAV" Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:51:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-UCSC-CATS-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: FW: [Moderator Action] IF header tagged-list Resource production X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/AMEPKEBLDJJCCDEJHAMIEELEFPAA.ejw@cse.ucsc.edu Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7083 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Accidentally caught by the spam filter. - Jim -----Original Message----- From: Antony Blakey [mailto:antony.blakey@linkuistics.com.au] Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 6:01 PM To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: [Moderator Action] IF header tagged-list Resource production I can't find any discussion of this detail on the list or in the bis spec: IMO the production for "Resource" in the tagged list form of the If header should change to allow an absolute path as well as absolute URI, for the same reason that the Destination header was changed. ------------------------- Antony Blakey mailto:antony.blakey@linkuistics.com.au Linkuistics - The Language of the Web All that is required for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing. From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Fri Dec 13 13:32:47 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA01187 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gBDIYWd17982; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:34:32 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:34:32 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212131834.gBDIYWd17982@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBDIYRA17944 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from ucsc.edu (cats-mx1.ucsc.edu [128.114.129.36]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07049 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:34:26 -0500 Received: from Tycho (dhcp-55-196.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.55.196]) by ucsc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id gBDIXx815860 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:33:59 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Whitehead" To: "WebDAV" Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:30:25 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0059_01C2A292.A62B84B0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-UCSC-CATS-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: FW: [Moderator Action] new to DAV X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/AMEPKEBLDJJCCDEJHAMIGECMGAAA.ejw@cse.ucsc.edu Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7084 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C2A292.A62B84B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Accidentally caught by the spam filter. - Jim -----Original Message----- From: Burhan Nizameddine [mailto:burhan@zui.ca] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 9:50 AM To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: [Moderator Action] new to DAV Hi, I have created a server with Dav enabled that supports the options and propfind methods. I have tested it with a Dav client it is working fine. but when I have tried it with the microsoft windows XP 'my network places', windows client send to my server a propfind request with an empty body and I respond by giving all the prop properties but on the client side, windows gives an error "[my server] is not accessible." eventhough I have no security restriction on my server. what could be the problem with communicating with a microsoft window client? Thanks, Burhan ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C2A292.A62B84B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Accidentally caught by the spam=20 filter.
 
-=20 Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Burhan Nizameddine=20 [mailto:burhan@zui.ca]
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Hi,
 
I have created a server with Dav = enabled that=20 supports the options and propfind methods. I have tested it with a Dav = client it=20 is working fine.
 
but when I have tried it with the = microsoft windows=20 XP 'my network places', windows client send to my server a propfind = request with=20 an empty body and I respond by giving all the prop properties but on the = client=20 side, windows gives an error
 
"[my server] is not accessible." =
 
eventhough I have no security = restriction on my=20 server.
 
what could be the problem with = communicating with a=20 microsoft window client?
 
Thanks,
 
Burhan
------=_NextPart_000_0059_01C2A292.A62B84B0-- From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Sat Dec 14 09:38:17 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA02876 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2002 09:38:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gBEEdvt23444; Sat, 14 Dec 2002 09:39:57 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 09:39:57 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212141439.gBEEdvt23444@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBEEdtA23412 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2002 09:39:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.65.60]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA01562 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2002 09:39:54 -0500 Received: (qmail 1712 invoked by uid 0); 14 Dec 2002 14:39:27 -0000 Received: from p3ee2480a.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO lisa) (62.226.72.10) by mail.gmx.net (mp007-rz3) with SMTP; 14 Dec 2002 14:39:27 -0000 From: "Julian Reschke" To: "Webdav WG" Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 15:39:10 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <000b01c28f1e$bd354150$620afea9@xythoslap> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Feedback for allprop/include proposal needed X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/JIEGINCHMLABHJBIGKBCIENAFPAA.julian.reschke@gmx.de Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7085 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some time ago, Geoff wrote: > From: "Clemm, Geoff" > To: w3c-dist-auth@w3c.org > Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:47:01 -0400 > Subject: RE: Feedback for allprop/include proposal needed > > I believe that the allprop/include proposal merits eventually becoming > part of the standard WebDAV protocol. I'd support adding it to 2518bis, > and when 2518bis is ready to be submitted, if another implementation > of this extension is not available to demonstrate interoperability, > we could remove it from 2518bis and leave it as its own informational RFC. > > Cheers, > Geoff This was the only feedback I've seen. If we have consensus here, I think we should add an issue to Jason's list, and note that the resolution is to add the allprop/include behaviour into RFC2518bis. If there's disagreement, I'd like to hear about it. This issue has been around way too long :-) Julian -- bytes GmbH -- http://www.greenbytes.de -- tel:+492512807760 From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Tue Dec 17 17:22:50 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA25514 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:22:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gBHMGMP13656; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:16:22 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:16:22 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212172216.gBHMGMP13656@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBHMGKA13593 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:16:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ucsc.edu (cats-mx2.ucsc.edu [128.114.129.35]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12821 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:16:19 -0500 Received: from Tycho (dhcp-55-196.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.55.196]) by ucsc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id gBHMEFb26516 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:14:16 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Whitehead" To: "WebDAV" Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:10:33 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2A5D6.105474F0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-UCSC-CATS-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: FW: Problem with Single Sign-On and DAV X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/AMEPKEBLDJJCCDEJHAMIAEJFGAAA.ejw@cse.ucsc.edu Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7086 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2A5D6.105474F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Accidentally caught by the spam filter. - Jim -----Original Message----- From: Niraj Tenany [mailto:ntenany@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 4:38 PM To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: [Moderator Action] Problem with Single Sign-On and DAV Hello - I am using a document management product and have enabled its authentication through an SSO product. In addition, the Document management product has WEBDAV. However, when I try and access the system through DAV, it challenges me with USERID and PWD again. The problem is that the USERID/PWD no longer are in the Document Management product. They are in the SSO database. How do I resolve this issue? I appreciate your help! Niraj Niraj Tenany NetWoven Inc. ntenany@netwoven.com Office: (925)600-9940 http://www.netwoven.com "Turning Enterprises Into Intelligent Enterprises" ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2A5D6.105474F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2A5D6.105474F0-- From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Thu Dec 19 20:15:38 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA02756 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:15:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gBK19Ah06936; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:09:10 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:09:10 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212200109.gBK19Ah06936@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBK198A06904 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:09:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (mail-out2.apple.com [17.254.0.51]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09403 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:09:08 -0500 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (A17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gBK196I15428 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from scv1.apple.com (scv1.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:08:41 -0800 Received: from apple.com (luthji.apple.com [17.202.43.76]) by scv1.apple.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gBK195s08515 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:09:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:09:04 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-11--237681137 From: Jim Luther To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Subject: Interim WEBDAV WG meeting: Jan 20-21, 2003, Cupertino, CA X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/A1DC71A2-13B7-11D7-926B-0003934B6A22@apple.com Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7087 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: --Apple-Mail-11--237681137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, This is a reminder to people planning to attend Interim WEBDAV WG meeting in January to RSVP at least 1 week before the meeting so visitor badges can be printed, and refreshments and meals can be planned. Apple Computer will be closed for the holidays from December 24, 2002 through January 1, 2003 so any RSVPs made during that time will not be acknowledged until after the first of the year. I've copied the details concerning the meeting and how to RSVP below. - Jim ---------- WebDAV Working Group Interim Meeting Dates Monday, January 20 and Tuesday, January 21, 2003 Location Apple Computer, Inc. Singapore conference room R&D Building 1, 1st floor One Infinite Loop Cupertino, CA 95014 The building is open to the conference room from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM Pacific time. How to get to Apple's R&D campus The Apple Computer R&D campus is located in Cupertino, California immediately south of Interstate 280 on the east side of De Anza Boulevard. Cupertino is 5 minutes west of San Jose and 45 minutes southeast of San Francisco in the heart of Silicon Valley. From Interstate 280, take De Anza Blvd south to Mariani Avenue (the first stoplight). 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Yes, please RSVP at least 1 week before the meeting so visitor badges=20 can be printed, and refreshments and meals can be planned. To RSVP,=20 send email to Nora Mosqueda and let Nora know that=20= you plan to attend the IETF WebDAV Working Group Interim Meeting=20 (include "WebDAV WG Interim Meeting" in the title of your email), what=20= day(s) you will be attending, and if you have any dietary requirements=20= we should be aware of. * What food is being provided for attendees? Refreshments will be provided during the morning and afternoon in the=20 meeting room. Lunches will be provided at Apple=92s cafeteria, Caff=E9=20= Macs. Caff=E9 Macs provides restaurant-quality full-service menus with=20= daily specials (including vegan and vegetarian menu choices). Apple is=20= providing refreshments and lunches at no charge to attendees. * What kind of network access will be available? AirPort (IEEE 802.11b) wireless networking is available in the=20 conference room. If Ethernet access is required, please note that=20 requirement when you RSVP. * Will my cell phone work at Apple? Yes. There is good coverage from several major cell phone networks. * Are there hotels close to the Apple campus? Cypress Hotel - walking distance from the Apple campus. 10050 South DeAnza Boulevard Cupertino, CA 950124 (408) 253-8900 Cupertino Inn - walking distance from the Apple campus. 10889 North DeAnza Blvd Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 996-7700 Courtyard by Marriott - requires car to get to the Apple campus 10605 N. Wolfe Road Cupertino, CA 95014 (408) 252-9100 Hilton Garden Inn Cupertino - requires car to get to the Apple campus 10741 North Wolfe Road Cupertino CA 95014 (408) 777-8787 WoodCrest Hotel - requires car to get to the Apple campus 5415 Stevens Creek Blvd. Santa Clara, CA (408) 446-9636 Moorpark Hotel - requires car to get to the Apple campus 4241 Moorpark Avenue San Jose CA 95129 (408) 864-0300 Wild Palms Hotel - requires car to get to the Apple campus 910 East Fremont Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94087 (408) 738-0500 Other area hotels within a short drive: Wellesley Inn Santa Clara, Santa Clara, CA Oakwood San Jose South, San Jose, CA Best Western Inn & Suites, Sunnyvale, CA =A0 Woodfin Suites Hotel Sunnyvale, Sunnyvale, CA Corporate Inn Sunnyvale, Sunnyvale, CA =A0 St. Francis Arms, Sunnyvale, CA =A0 Maple Tree Inn, Sunnyvale, CA =A0 Comfort Inn, Sunnyvale, CA =A0 Quality Inn Civic Center, Sunnyvale, CA =A0 Grand Hotel, Sunnyvale, CA --Apple-Mail-11--237681137-- From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Fri Dec 20 16:50:25 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA12263 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:50:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gBKLq8H29293; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:52:08 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:52:08 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212202152.gBKLq8H29293@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBKLq5A29240 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:52:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from ucsc.edu (cats-mx1.ucsc.edu [128.114.129.36]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22603 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:52:05 -0500 Received: from Tycho (dhcp-55-196.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.55.196]) by ucsc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id gBKLpnT03240 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:51:50 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Whitehead" To: "WebDAV" Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:48:07 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-UCSC-CATS-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Preliminary agenda for Interim WG meeting X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/AMEPKEBLDJJCCDEJHAMIOEPEGAAA.ejw@cse.ucsc.edu Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7088 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is the *preliminary* agenda for the interim WG meeting. Please send a message to the list if there are any omissions, or you'd like to suggest a change. - Jim Preliminary Agenda Interim WebDAV Working Group Meeting January 20-21, 2003 Location Apple Computer, Inc. Singapore conference room R&D Building 1, 1st floor One Infinite Loop Cupertino, CA 95014 The building is open to the conference room from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM Pacific time. Monday, January 20: ------------------- 9AM - Welcome, introductions, final agenda bashing 9:10AM - Access Control Protocol : Lisa Dusseault, moderator Issues: revising draft to resolve IESG comments 10:15AM - break 10:30AM - Improvements to WebDAV property handling : Jim Whitehead, moderator - covers "Datatypes for WebDAV properties", "Including additional properties in WebDAV PROPFIND/allprop requests" * begin with brief presentation by Julian Reschke on these drafts 12 noon - Lunch 1 PM - WebDAV property registration : Lisa Dusseault, moderator * begin with presentation by Dennis Hamilton on current status of activity 2 PM - Break 2:15PM - 2518bis : Jim Whitehead, moderator 5PM End of session for the day Tuesday, January 21: -------------------- 9AM - Welcome, agenda revisit 9:05AM - DASL : Lisa Dusseault, moderator 10:30AM - break 10:45 - Continue w/DASL: Jim Whitehead, moderator 12 noon - Lunch 1PM - Discussion of Bindings specification, Lisa Dusseault, moderator 2PM - break 2:15PM - Quota specification, Jim Whitehead, moderator 3PM - Computing the CHECKIN URI in WebDAV versioning" - Julian Reschke presentation 3:30PM - Time for revisiting issues raised previously during meeting. From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Fri Dec 20 17:01:02 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA12797 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gBKM3I200534; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:03:18 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:03:18 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212202203.gBKM3I200534@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBKM3GA00502 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ucsc.edu (cats-mx1.ucsc.edu [128.114.129.36]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25326 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:03:16 -0500 Received: from Tycho (dhcp-55-196.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.55.196]) by ucsc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id gBKM2pT05863 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 14:02:51 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Whitehead" To: "WebDAV" Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:59:07 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-UCSC-CATS-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: RSVP contact info for Interim Meeting X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/AMEPKEBLDJJCCDEJHAMIAEPGGAAA.ejw@cse.ucsc.edu Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7089 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think Jim Luther neglected to give the precise RSVP contact info for the Interim WG meeting: Please RSVP to Nora Mosqueda and let Nora know that you plan to attend the IETF WebDAV Working Group Interim Meeting (include "WebDAV WG Interim Meeting" in the title of your email), what day(s) you will be attending, and if you have any dietary requirements we should be aware of. Thanks! - Jim From w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Mon Dec 23 23:08:55 2002 Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [18.29.1.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA21551 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 23:08:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lists@localhost) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gBO4ACZ26467; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 23:10:12 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 23:10:12 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <200212240410.gBO4ACZ26467@frink.w3.org> Received: from tux.w3.org (tux.w3.org [18.29.0.27]) by frink.w3.org (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBO4AAA26435 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 23:10:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from swordfish ([216.241.35.41]) by tux.w3.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA21825 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 23:10:10 -0500 Received: from matt by swordfish with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18QgNt-0000Cj-00 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:09:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:09:37 -0700 From: Matt Gushee To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Message-ID: <20021224040936.GA440@swordfish> Reply-To: Matt Gushee Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Subject: Class 1 server and lock requests X-Archived-At: http://www.w3.org/mid/20021224040936.GA440@swordfish Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7090 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Hello-- I am trying to mount a DAVfs2 file system (davfs2-0.2.1) served by Christian Scholz's python davserver (0.5.2), and have encountered a problem with lock requests. Both client and server are running on Debian GNU/Linux 3.0. First of all, the server package is mostly Class 1-compliant, according to the Litmus tests; it definitely does not support locking. I am able to mount the DAVfs file system, get directory listings, read files, and create new files. But when I attempt to overwrite an existing file, the following happens: 1. DAVfs attempts to acquire an exclusive write lock on the resource. 2. The server returns a 501 error. 3. The client fails to overwrite the resource (I have tried to edit and save the file directly with Vim, and to save the file locally and 'cp' it to the DAVfs directory; same result either way). I can see a couple of possible server-side issues that may be preventing the resource from being overwritten: one is that the body of the 501 error message appears to be sent before the headers; the other is that the file permissions may not allow overwriting. But I would like to know what the server and client should be doing in this situation. I don't see any relevant language in RFC2518, and both client and server software are minimally documented. Are there references I should be looking at, or is there an informal consensus as to what should happen here? Thanks in advance for any information, and happy holidays (assuming it is a holiday in your part of the world)! -- Matt Gushee When a nation follows the Way, Englewood, Colorado, USA Horses bear manure through mgushee@havenrock.com its fields; http://www.havenrock.com/ When a nation ignores the Way, Horses bear soldiers through its streets. --Lao Tzu (Peter Merel, trans.)