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Thread-Index: AcgIGQJ/cRImZAasRtOV6WOTqiSPEgBAb9iK References: <9CDC02BD-E022-4D27-BA02-C3C751F5FD04@brooklynpenguin.com> From: To: Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2007 19:48:41.0114 (UTC) FILETIME=[0FA297A0:01C8091B] Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: aji.w3.org 1Iec7a-0002LK-OD 1ee60fc5ae8efe7f8dc21f8c493f7171 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: AW: Standardizing Batch methods? Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12767 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:49:11 +0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9ed51c9d1356100bce94f1ae4ec616a9 =20 We develop a WebDAV client specialized for organizing scientific data = and one of its main requirements is absolute data integrity. There are = many situations on which one user action results in several = webdav-request. This leads to two serious disadvantages. First, if a = user action leads to 50 or 100 webdav request, depending on the network = bandwidth and server performance, this could be really slow. And = secondly if the client crashes in the middle of a difficult job, this = could result in inconsistent data. Some time ago, there was a discussion about microsofts batch methods and = transactions, which deals about exact the same problems we facing here. = So, I'm interested if in the meantime one of this solutions had lead to = a draft status or if this issue had been discarded. Maybe our = organization could help working to accelerate the progress of writing a = draft. -Markus ________________________________ Von: Tim Olsen [mailto:tim@brooklynpenguin.com] Gesendet: Sa 06.10.2007 15:01 An: Litz, Markus Cc: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Betreff: Re: Standardizing Batch methods? 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Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12768 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:42:18 +0000 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: c0bedb65cce30976f0bf60a0a39edea4 At the moment it is not possible for a WebDAV server to participate in a distributed transaction. Applications may wish to store documents in the course of a transaction and be sure that this is rolled back in case of a failure. I'm therefore in favour of introducing an XA interface in WebDAV. There is also a case for having explicit transaction demarcation methods. For example, clients can benefit from executing a simple sequence such as check-out/update/check-in in the context of a transation= . Regards, Werner. Julian Reschke wrote: >=20 > markus.litz@dlr.de wrote: >> Hello, >> >> are there any plans for standardizing Batch methods in WebDAV? Is ther= e >> a spec that could be discussed or are there real alternatives to >> transactions in WebDAV? >=20 > I'm not aware of any plans. Things I *am* aware of are: >=20 > - two documents for which documentation was requested (BIND, SEARCH) --= =20 > waiting for the IESG >=20 > - a proposal to work on an equivalent of CaldDAV for vCard. Potentially= =20 > a WG will be formed for that, and there was some discussion about=20 > starting some separate documents simplifying this in the WebDAV stack=20 > (such as defining a request body for MKCOL, or extrating stuff like=20 > REPORT from RFC3253). >=20 > - maintenance of existing specs (RFC3253bis, RFC3744bis, RFC4918bis...)= . >=20 >> I searched in the WebDAV mailing list archive, but the last posts >> according to that issue are quite old.=20 >=20 > I would guess we'd need to come up with a problem statement first. >=20 > There are both batch calls and transaction support in Microsoft=20 > exchange, and as far as I recall these have the following issues: >=20 > Batch: underspecification, not clear whether it's good for retrieval=20 > because it bypasses caches. >=20 > Transactions: breaks GET, because specifying the transaction id as a=20 > request header essentially makes all requests content-negotiated. >=20 > So... what's the problem you're looking to solve? >=20 > Best regards, Julian >=20 --=20 Werner Donn=E9 -- Re Engelbeekstraat 8 B-3300 Tienen tel: (+32) 486 425803 e-mail: werner.donne@re.be From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Mon Oct 08 04:18:24 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ienom-0000Dn-O1 for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:18:24 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org ([128.30.52.56]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ienoi-0006iH-J4 for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:18:24 -0400 Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IennE-0004Yl-G5 for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:16:48 +0000 Received: from aji.w3.org ([133.27.228.225]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IennD-0004Xx-6g for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:16:47 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by aji.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ienn5-0007U3-GS for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:16:46 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Oct 2007 08:16:28 -0000 Received: from p508FBA9C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.186.156] by mail.gmx.net (mp036) with SMTP; 08 Oct 2007 10:16:28 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/YRtEN60vYHvQUEj5hQ85IiudFBIbyqa4oA2IP06 9DH/QYMZ0D7+y3 Message-ID: <4709E75A.3030106@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:16:26 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: markus.litz@dlr.de CC: tim@brooklynpenguin.com, w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: <9CDC02BD-E022-4D27-BA02-C3C751F5FD04@brooklynpenguin.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: aji.w3.org 1Ienn5-0007U3-GS 95350fed75593a2203ea1ce84eef75ea X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: AW: Standardizing Batch methods? Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12769 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:16:48 +0000 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7655788c23eb79e336f5f8ba8bce7906 markus.litz@dlr.de wrote: > > We develop a WebDAV client specialized for organizing scientific data and one of its main requirements is absolute data integrity. There are many situations on which one user action results in several webdav-request. This leads to two serious disadvantages. First, if a user action leads to 50 or 100 webdav request, depending on the network bandwidth and server performance, this could be really slow. And secondly if the client crashes in the middle of a difficult job, this could result in inconsistent data. > Some time ago, there was a discussion about microsofts batch methods and transactions, which deals about exact the same problems we facing here. So, I'm interested if in the meantime one of this solutions had lead to a draft status or if this issue had been discarded. Maybe our organization could help working to accelerate the progress of writing a draft. Markus, the main issue here is that it's totally non-trivial to define batch and transactions methods over HTTP. - for batch: things that bypass caches and pipelining may be slower in practice. - for transactions: I'm only aware of one implementation (Microsoft's), and that one breaks HTTP semantics. So, if you want to get somewhere somebody will have to make a proposal and start work implementing it inside a server, proving that it indeed works and performs well. 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Thread-Index: AcgJg7I2jsq3jRVBQT2tBXN2ltL/YAAR2IzI References: <9CDC02BD-E022-4D27-BA02-C3C751F5FD04@brooklynpenguin.com> <4709E75A.3030106@gmx.de> From: To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2007 17:02:34.0094 (UTC) FILETIME=[053DC8E0:01C809CD] Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1Iew08-0005eQ-Df eb26bdb634c59e39a37ef3a7a293f1ba X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: AW: AW: Standardizing Batch methods? Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12770 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:02:47 +0000 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: f607d15ccc2bc4eaf3ade8ffa8af02a0 Hi Julian, so this is indeed a unsolved problem. I was wondering if someone already = started with writing a proposal for either batch calls or transactions. = Was there a discussion on which a preference became clear?=20 The best may be if I start with reading the microsoft batch & = transaction definitions, and than we consider to start working on a = draft. Ideas? Markus -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Julian Reschke [mailto:julian.reschke@gmx.de] Gesendet: Mo 08.10.2007 10:16 An: Litz, Markus Cc: tim@brooklynpenguin.com; w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Betreff: Re: AW: Standardizing Batch methods? =20 markus.litz@dlr.de wrote: > =20 > We develop a WebDAV client specialized for organizing scientific data = and one of its main requirements is absolute data integrity. There are = many situations on which one user action results in several = webdav-request. This leads to two serious disadvantages. 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So, if you want to get somewhere somebody will have to make a proposal=20 and start work implementing it inside a server, proving that it indeed=20 works and performs well. Best regards, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Mon Oct 08 13:12:27 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iew9b-0007b7-Dn for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:12:27 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org ([128.30.52.56]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iew9a-0006N1-8n for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:12:27 -0400 Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iew9B-0005M0-DK for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:12:01 +0000 Received: from aji.w3.org ([133.27.228.225]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iew9A-0005LM-JY for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:12:00 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by aji.w3.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iew90-0005Er-NI for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:11:59 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Oct 2007 17:11:40 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.87]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp039) with SMTP; 08 Oct 2007 19:11:40 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1//arM+Gzz/uscbwuq7byRBoDgDlqw7P4SSPx5mg3 YA8nxhdSIVli/T Message-ID: <470A64CB.5000708@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:11:39 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: markus.litz@dlr.de CC: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org References: <9CDC02BD-E022-4D27-BA02-C3C751F5FD04@brooklynpenguin.com> <4709E75A.3030106@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Received-SPF: pass X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: aji.w3.org 1Iew90-0005Er-NI 96d9b5c32f47898af95d23cb05cd34ba X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: AW: AW: Standardizing Batch methods? Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12771 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:12:01 +0000 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 markus.litz@dlr.de wrote: > Hi Julian, > > > > so this is indeed a unsolved problem. I was wondering if someone already started with writing a proposal for either batch calls or transactions. Was there a discussion on which a preference became clear? > The best may be if I start with reading the microsoft batch & transaction definitions, and than we consider to start working on a draft. > > Ideas? > Markus I would say working on a draft can be useful, but what's even more important is to find people willing to implement it. Just writing a draft is unlikely to make implementations happen (even RFC4918 IMHO so far has a *single* implementation...). So I'd urge you to first understand what the problems with the Microsoft implementations are, and then to check whether the advanced features defined in RFC3253 do not already do what you're looking for (at least with respect to transactions). Best regards, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Mon Oct 08 13:53:50 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iewne-0004rq-Uy for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:53:50 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org ([128.30.52.56]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iewna-0007X7-ND for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:53:50 -0400 Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iewmt-0001N4-8X for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:53:03 +0000 Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iewms-0001MG-KO for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:53:02 +0000 Received: from scotch.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.24.168] helo=bourbon.ics.uci.edu) by lisa.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Iewme-0006jb-N7 for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:52:59 +0000 Received: from scotch.ics.uci.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bourbon.ics.uci.edu (8.12.11.20060614/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l98HqMFb013438; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 76.236.51.34 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jfeise) by scotch.ics.uci.edu with HTTP; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4498.76.236.51.34.1191865942.squirrel@scotch.ics.uci.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <9CDC02BD-E022-4D27-BA02-C3C751F5FD04@brooklynpenguin.com> <4709E75A.3030106@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joe Feise" To: markus.litz@dlr.de Cc: julian.reschke@gmx.de, w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Reply-To: jfeise@feise.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by bourbon.ics.uci.edu id l98HqMFb013438 Received-SPF: none X-SPF-Guess: neutral X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1Iewme-0006jb-N7 eb9113f57c67703c92e493010640d755 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: AW: AW: Standardizing Batch methods? Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12772 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:53:03 +0000 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: 0fa76816851382eb71b0a882ccdc29ac How about starting with the workspace and activity concepts in DeltaV? -Joe On Mon, October 8, 2007 10:02, markus.litz@dlr.de wrote: > > Hi Julian, > > > > so this is indeed a unsolved problem. 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"Iran's cooperation with the IAEA is a logical and correct path and wi= ll continue. We are determined to meet our country's need for nuclear ene= rgy. That's why we are taking the issue of enrichment seriously," IRNA qu= oted Khamenei as saying.


ROME, Italy (AP) -- A man opened fire in a courtroom in northern Italy= on Wednesday, seriously wounding his estranged wife and killing her brot= her before being shot to death by police, officials said.


"We are certainly concerned about the impact for fans. So far we've be= en assured the disruptions should be manageable but it remains to be seen= ," Jessica Chambers, a spokeswoman for the England Rugby Supporters Club.=


In June 2006 the Security Council permanent members group, offered a p= ackage of economic and political rewards to Iran and a suspension of the = implementation of sanctions, but only if Tehran agreed to suspend enrichm= ent before the start of negotiations. Iran rejected that proposal.

Vladimir Putin's visit was the first by a Kremlin leader to Iran since= 1943.


With Paris hotels booked full many fans are staying 30 kilometers (20 = miles) outside the city in hotels around Disneyland's Paris resort.

Commercial flights to the French capital were sold out, while thousand= s of England supporters have booked to travel on the Eurostar rail servic= e from London to Paris.


Russian officials could not immediately be reached to verify the repor= t and the Iranian news agency provided no details on what Putin had propo= sed.


About 80,000 rugby fans are expected to attend Saturday's World Cup fi= nal between England and South Africa.


Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has the final say on all government matter= s, said Iran will give Putin's proposal serious thought before giving a r= esponse, the news agency said.


A police officer and the woman's lawyer also were injured, but not ser= iously, police said.


Prompted by government attempts to cut pension privileges, the strikes= will be for 24 hours but could be prolonged to Friday, Ricard said.

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Only one in four trains will be running on Thursday, including suburba= n services linking Paris to its three international airports, she said.

Railway workers will join bus, power, gas and some state employees for= the action called after President Nicolas Sarkozy refused to back down o= ver planned pension reforms, according to Monique Ricard, spokeswoman for= the French railway SNCF.


"We will ponder your words and proposal," IRNA quoted Khamenei as sayi= ng.


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It has taken longer than it should have, possibly caused my Mac OS X 10.4.10 desktop to crash, and ultimately forced me to use both the shell and FTP to get permissions set right and the right files in the right places. It shouldn't be this hard. Part of the blame may lay with Mac OS's native implementation of WebDAV, but I've not seen any implementation that is better on the whole. > > WebDAV comes up short, because: > > 1. It is not reliable. It frequently leaves files incompletely transferred, gets hung during transfers, gets permissions wrong, or issues false alarms. That's an implementation problem. I'm not sure what server was involved, but this has nothing to do with the protocol itself. > 2. It is slow. Annoying slow. No, it's not. > 3. It is incomplete. No surprise, being built on top of HTTP, a protocol never meant for file handling semantics. There's no clean and reliable way to do stat(2) and chmod(2) functions -- something pretty much implemented in every file system used on the server side, and necessary for getting the job done. I don't see why PROPFIND wouldn't be sufficient for stat(2), and ACL (RFC3744) wouldn't be sufficient for chmod(2). > 4. There are no industrial-grade or polished, complete implementations. Is there any implementation not based on the Neon libraries? Not to criticize the authors of Neon; after all, it's a volunteer open-source project -- but, Neon has not exactly had a lot of active development and rigorous testing (other than by poor hapless users). Subversion seems to be quite happy with Neon. That being said, there's also serf () or the Apache httpclient libs. > 5. It's obtuse. Did they really have to invent new names for everything? I'm not sure what this is about... Maybe the author would have preferred "STAT" over "PROPFIND"? > Some people praise or use WebDAV over FTP, because of FTP's 2 biggest glaring short-comings -- lack of encryption (a solved problem) and lack of authentication flexibility (how hard can it be to add that to an FTP server?). That's hardly a good reason to invent and use a new protocol which fails to meet the needs in a bunch of other ways, and is pig slow and inefficient compared to FTP. Why not just improve FTP? WebDAV is as fast as FTP, usually being only limited by bandwidth and latency of the link. And of course there are lots of other reasons to like WebDAV, such as that it *is* HTTP -- no new URI needed to edit something that already is on the web. Best regards, Julian From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Tue Oct 30 13:40:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Imv4N-0007VE-2Z for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:40:03 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org ([128.30.52.56]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Imv4I-000532-TK for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:40:03 -0400 Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Imv3e-0001fG-Rc for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:39:18 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Imv3d-0001ec-Rz for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:39:18 +0000 Received: from smtp6.server.rpi.edu ([128.113.2.226]) by maggie.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Imv3X-0006ds-6M for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:39:17 +0000 Received: from [128.113.124.163] (kiva-18.dynamic2.rpi.edu [128.113.124.163]) by smtp6.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l9UHd7AE012592; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:39:07 -0400 Message-ID: <47276CB7.7090109@rpi.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:41:11 -0400 From: Mike Douglass User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Reschke CC: WebDAV References: <47276473.80308@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <47276473.80308@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam scanning disabled X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.226 Received-SPF: none X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1Imv3X-0006ds-6M c8a82dcb504d44383622fd68d3c98cc9 X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: Blog comments on -- "Why I don't like WebDAV, part 1" Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12776 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:39:18 +0000 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: 6e922792024732fb1bb6f346e63517e4 These are all implementation issues. I use subversion every day and it's fast and very reliable - surprisingly so for a networked protocol. I also use a Xythos server when I have the time - it's appallingly slow but it's neither Xythos nor the protocol - the server is a slow desktop machine Julian Reschke wrote: > > Hi, > > the blog requires a login to comment, so > I rather just do it here...: > >> Why I don't like WebDAV, part 1 >> Posted October 23rd, 2007 by chris >> in >> >> * gripes >> * protocols >> * software >> * technology >> * webdav >> >> Yesterday and today I spent a lot of time using WebDAV updating one >> web site, and creating another, both at hosts which use that protocol >> for accessing file directories on hosted sites. It has taken longer >> than it should have, possibly caused my Mac OS X 10.4.10 desktop to >> crash, and ultimately forced me to use both the shell and FTP to get >> permissions set right and the right files in the right places. It >> shouldn't be this hard. Part of the blame may lay with Mac OS's >> native implementation of WebDAV, but I've not seen any implementation >> that is better on the whole. >> >> WebDAV comes up short, because: >> >> 1. It is not reliable. It frequently leaves files incompletely >> transferred, gets hung during transfers, gets permissions wrong, or >> issues false alarms. > > That's an implementation problem. I'm not sure what server was > involved, but this has nothing to do with the protocol itself. > >> 2. It is slow. Annoying slow. > > No, it's not. > >> 3. It is incomplete. No surprise, being built on top of HTTP, a >> protocol never meant for file handling semantics. There's no clean >> and reliable way to do stat(2) and chmod(2) functions -- something >> pretty much implemented in every file system used on the server side, >> and necessary for getting the job done. > > I don't see why PROPFIND wouldn't be sufficient for stat(2), and ACL > (RFC3744) wouldn't be sufficient for chmod(2). > >> 4. There are no industrial-grade or polished, complete >> implementations. Is there any implementation not based on the Neon >> libraries? Not to criticize the authors of Neon; after all, it's a >> volunteer open-source project -- but, Neon has not exactly had a lot >> of active development and rigorous testing (other than by poor >> hapless users). > > Subversion seems to be quite happy with Neon. That being said, there's > also serf () or the Apache httpclient > libs. > >> 5. It's obtuse. Did they really have to invent new names for >> everything? > > I'm not sure what this is about... Maybe the author would have > preferred "STAT" over "PROPFIND"? > >> Some people praise or use WebDAV over FTP, because of FTP's 2 biggest >> glaring short-comings -- lack of encryption (a solved problem) and >> lack of authentication flexibility (how hard can it be to add that to >> an FTP server?). 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    ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C81B36.5F4EE8D0-- From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Tue Oct 30 16:45:49 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Imxy9-0008Qz-R6 for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:45:49 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org ([128.30.52.56]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Imxy0-0005Ih-Nw for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:45:44 -0400 Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ImxwF-0001u5-9l for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:43:51 +0000 Received: from wiggum.w3.org ([128.30.52.23]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ImxwE-0001tR-7y for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:43:50 +0000 Received: from nobody by wiggum.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1ImxwC-00065g-1z for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:43:48 +0000 Received: from aji.w3.org ([133.27.228.225]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ImxvB-0001gf-Ax for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:42:45 +0000 Received: from exchange.xythos.com ([64.84.59.212] helo=NSNOVPS00411.nacio.xythos.com) by aji.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Imxv0-0003Fb-Rg for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:42:44 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:42:14 -0800 Message-ID: <03E7D3E231BB7B4A915A6581D4296CC6053F1F05@NSNOVPS00411.nacio.xythos.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Blog comments on -- "Why I don't like WebDAV, part 1" Thread-Index: AcgbG+sJNAza9gbVQa2D2qJnoGLbtQAFLgdA From: "Kevin Wiggen" To: "Mike Douglass" , "Julian Reschke" , Cc: "WebDAV" Received-SPF: none X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: aji.w3.org 1Imxv0-0003Fb-Rg e33a15d170cf5fa42466b068ef37cbb6 X-caa-id: 093799bc64a6b34f6f2f X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: RE: Blog comments on -- "Why I don't like WebDAV, part 1" Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12777 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:43:51 +0000 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: 963faf56c3a5b6715f0b71b66181e01a I have CC'd Chris as he was the original author of the flame against Webdav. I must say I agree with Mike and Julian that the problem is NOT the protocol, it is rather the implementation OF the protocol that leads to user dissatisfaction. It is unfortunate that Webdav takes a beating when really its really the implementations that have lead to SLOW BUGGY software (and since much of this is actually done at the device driver level, this software is quite complex). Let's go through the gripes in more detail: 1) Leaving files half written. Xythos actually will catch the fact that a file is not completely written on the SERVER and erase partial files. I also know of FTP servers that will have half written files if the connection is canceled. The Xythos Drive (a webdav client used by Xythos, SAP, Oracle, others) will actually try to resubmit items that were cancelled in order to make sure its cache is consistent with the server. Again a client could be written to do the minimal work and minimal error checking, but again this is not a problem with the protocol, but rather the software you chose to use. Permissions wrong and bad error messages. Again a problem with your client. As Julian mentioned, there is a protocol that allows a user to set ACLs on a Webdav Server. In fact both the Xythos client and Server implement this protocol allowing users to "chmod," with MORE control than unix, files and directories on the server. 2) It's Slow. Yes I agree the default apple client is slow. For every write to the server it makes over 6 round trips for an operation that could take 1. Again, bad client. The Xythos client will simply PUT files across to the server and interpret error responses to give the user a great experience when working with files. In Xythos 7.0 we have a new upload widget that uses Webdav to upload files on the server and its actually FASTER than any other uploading system I have seen. Webdav simply places the bytes over a HTTP request after a small header. The bottleneck for transferring bytes is the network. I have actually seen Xythos work FASTER than CIFS, NFS and other protocols. Of course it depends on what you are doing, but at the end of the day, Webdav simply is putting bytes across a wire.=20 3) No stat/chmod. Julian answered this correctly with PROPFIND and ACL. Both of which are fully supported in Webdav client/server combos such as Xythos, SAP, Oracle, etc.=20 4) Ummm Xythos, SAP, Oracle, others 5) Naming. No comment. At the end of the day, Webdav is FAR FAR more functional that FTP. It includes things like Versioning, Meta-data, Searching, ACLs, etc. It is not simply trying to be a file system replacement, but rather a protocol for authoring and versioning on the Web. It is unfortunate that many of the implementations are half-baked. This has lead many people to bad mouth the protocol, when really they should be asking their software providers about their implementations. I constantly have customers who talk about the need for Basic Document Services in a WebService environment. Guess what, Webdav is a perfect open standard way of accomplishing 95% of their needs. We could of course take a few years to wrap Webdav in SOAP, REST or something else to pick up a few buzzwords, but that just seems more painful. There are problems with all Open Standards. I have a few issues with Webdav, but can we please place the blame for Webdav failing where it belongs. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Mike Douglass Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:41 AM To: Julian Reschke Cc: WebDAV Subject: Re: Blog comments on -- "Why I don't like WebDAV, part 1" These are all implementation issues. I use subversion every day and it's fast and very reliable -=20 surprisingly so for a networked protocol. I also use a Xythos server when I have the time - it's appallingly slow=20 but it's neither Xythos nor the protocol - the server is a slow desktop=20 machine Julian Reschke wrote: > > Hi, > > the blog requires a login to comment, so > I rather just do it here...: > >> Why I don't like WebDAV, part 1 >> Posted October 23rd, 2007 by chris >> in >> >> * gripes >> * protocols >> * software >> * technology >> * webdav >> >> Yesterday and today I spent a lot of time using WebDAV updating one=20 >> web site, and creating another, both at hosts which use that protocol >> for accessing file directories on hosted sites. It has taken longer=20 >> than it should have, possibly caused my Mac OS X 10.4.10 desktop to=20 >> crash, and ultimately forced me to use both the shell and FTP to get=20 >> permissions set right and the right files in the right places. It=20 >> shouldn't be this hard. Part of the blame may lay with Mac OS's=20 >> native implementation of WebDAV, but I've not seen any implementation >> that is better on the whole. >> >> WebDAV comes up short, because: >> >> 1. It is not reliable. It frequently leaves files incompletely=20 >> transferred, gets hung during transfers, gets permissions wrong, or=20 >> issues false alarms. > > That's an implementation problem. I'm not sure what server was=20 > involved, but this has nothing to do with the protocol itself. > >> 2. It is slow. Annoying slow. > > No, it's not. > >> 3. It is incomplete. No surprise, being built on top of HTTP, a=20 >> protocol never meant for file handling semantics. There's no clean=20 >> and reliable way to do stat(2) and chmod(2) functions -- something=20 >> pretty much implemented in every file system used on the server side, >> and necessary for getting the job done. > > I don't see why PROPFIND wouldn't be sufficient for stat(2), and ACL=20 > (RFC3744) wouldn't be sufficient for chmod(2). > >> 4. There are no industrial-grade or polished, complete=20 >> implementations. Is there any implementation not based on the Neon=20 >> libraries? Not to criticize the authors of Neon; after all, it's a=20 >> volunteer open-source project -- but, Neon has not exactly had a lot=20 >> of active development and rigorous testing (other than by poor=20 >> hapless users). > > Subversion seems to be quite happy with Neon. That being said, there's > also serf () or the Apache httpclient=20 > libs. > >> 5. It's obtuse. Did they really have to invent new names for=20 >> everything? > > I'm not sure what this is about... Maybe the author would have=20 > preferred "STAT" over "PROPFIND"? > >> Some people praise or use WebDAV over FTP, because of FTP's 2 biggest >> glaring short-comings -- lack of encryption (a solved problem) and=20 >> lack of authentication flexibility (how hard can it be to add that to >> an FTP server?). That's hardly a good reason to invent and use a new=20 >> protocol which fails to meet the needs in a bunch of other ways, and=20 >> is pig slow and inefficient compared to FTP. Why not just improve FTP? > > WebDAV is as fast as FTP, usually being only limited by bandwidth and=20 > latency of the link. And of course there are lots of other reasons to=20 > like WebDAV, such as that it *is* HTTP -- no new URI needed to edit=20 > something that already is on the web. > > Best regards, Julian > > --=20 Mike Douglass douglm@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer Communication & Collaboration Technologies 518 276 6780(voice) 2809 (fax) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 110 8th Street, Troy, NY 12180 From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Tue Oct 30 17:18:38 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ImyTu-0005Fj-I7 for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:18:38 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org ([128.30.52.56]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ImyTk-0006sK-Cd for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:18:34 -0400 Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ImySg-0007HB-6z for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:17:22 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ImySf-0007GS-77 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:17:21 +0000 Received: from dubstep.brooklynpenguin.com ([216.254.75.249] ident=Debian-exim) by maggie.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ImySY-0004PA-Lc for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:17:20 +0000 Received: from cyrus.limewire.com ([76.8.67.2] helo=neurofunk.limewire.com) by dubstep.brooklynpenguin.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ImySQ-0000dX-6o; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:17:07 +0000 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:17:04 -0400 From: Tim Olsen To: "Kevin Wiggen" Cc: "Mike Douglass" , "Julian Reschke" , , "WebDAV" Message-ID: <20071030171704.3b1e36e1@neurofunk.limewire.com> In-Reply-To: <03E7D3E231BB7B4A915A6581D4296CC6053F1F05@NSNOVPS00411.nacio.xythos.com> References: <03E7D3E231BB7B4A915A6581D4296CC6053F1F05@NSNOVPS00411.nacio.xythos.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam_score: -3.9 X-Spam_score_int: -38 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "dubstep.brooklynpenguin.com", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:42:14 -0800 "Kevin Wiggen" wrote: > 2) It's Slow. Yes I agree the default apple client is slow. For > every write to the server it makes over 6 round trips for an > operation that could take 1. Again, bad client. The Xythos client [...] Content analysis details: (-3.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.8 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.5 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list Received-SPF: none X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1ImySY-0004PA-Lc 9fe53ba04c8eaa0501fe4f5320b5407d X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: Blog comments on -- "Why I don't like WebDAV, part 1" Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12778 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:17:22 +0000 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: d6b246023072368de71562c0ab503126 On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:42:14 -0800 "Kevin Wiggen" wrote: > 2) It's Slow. Yes I agree the default apple client is slow. For > every write to the server it makes over 6 round trips for an > operation that could take 1. Again, bad client. The Xythos client I wonder how many of these round trips are to work around bad servers. For example, Apache still does not understand If-None-Match * correctly! (One of my team members, Paritosh Shah, has submitted a patch to the Apache mailing list. Hopefully it will be accepted) WebDAV awareness seems to be increasing - hence, this blog posting. This should put pressure on client and server developers to fix their implementations. 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I don't work on Mac OX X's WebDAV file system now, but I used to. On Oct 30, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > Hi, > > the blog requires a login to comment, > so I rather just do it here...: > >> Why I don't like WebDAV, part 1 >> Posted October 23rd, 2007 by chris >> in >> * gripes >> * protocols >> * software >> * technology >> * webdav >> Yesterday and today I spent a lot of time using WebDAV updating one >> web site, and creating another, both at hosts which use that >> protocol for accessing file directories on hosted sites. It has >> taken longer than it should have, possibly caused my Mac OS X >> 10.4.10 desktop to crash, and ultimately forced me to use both the >> shell and FTP to get permissions set right and the right files in >> the right places. It shouldn't be this hard. Part of the blame may >> lay with Mac OS's native implementation of WebDAV, but I've not >> seen any implementation that is better on the whole. >> WebDAV comes up short, because: >> 1. It is not reliable. It frequently leaves files incompletely >> transferred, gets hung during transfers, gets permissions wrong, or >> issues false alarms. > > That's an implementation problem. I'm not sure what server was > involved, but this has nothing to do with the protocol itself. Apple's WebDAV file system works with most WebDAV servers that act like file servers, but there's nothing in the WebDAV spec that says a WebDAV server has to act like a file server just as there's nothing in the HTTP spec that requires an HTTP server to only serve up resources a web browser can us). There are many WebDAV servers that don't act anything like a file servers, and others with restrictions that ensure they cannot be used as a general purpose file server (like the filename restrictions imposed by MS SharePoint servers). IMO, Apple's WebDAV file system should have been called the "iDisk file system" to make it clear what server it was intended to work with and if it happened to work with other WebDAV servers (such as Apache mod_dav servers because they act like file servers)... great; if they don't work with other WebDAV servers... oh well. >> 2. It is slow. Annoying slow. > > No, it's not. With a fast server, I haven't seen that the WebDAV file system is slow. If the server responds slowly to requests (I've seen some WebDAV servers take as much as 1/2 second to respond to PROPFIND requests -- that makes the handling of stat(2) requests rather slow and you'd be amazed how often programs call stat(2)) or you're using a high latency connection, things will be slow. >> 3. It is incomplete. No surprise, being built on top of HTTP, a >> protocol never meant for file handling semantics. There's no clean >> and reliable way to do stat(2) and chmod(2) functions -- something >> pretty much implemented in every file system used on the server >> side, and necessary for getting the job done. > > I don't see why PROPFIND wouldn't be sufficient for stat(2), and ACL > (RFC3744) wouldn't be sufficient for chmod(2). The WebDAV file system was meant to copy files up to a server or down from a server. It wasn't intended to conform to the POSIX spec. As Julian pointed out, support for ACL (RFC3744) would allow chmod(2) like behavior, but at the expense of additional transactions with the server (which will affect performance). Since it wasn't important on iDisk, it wasn't added. >> 4. There are no industrial-grade or polished, complete >> implementations. Is there any implementation not based on the Neon >> libraries? Not to criticize the authors of Neon; after all, it's a >> volunteer open-source project -- but, Neon has not exactly had a >> lot of active development and rigorous testing (other than by poor >> hapless users). > > Subversion seems to be quite happy with Neon. That being said, > there's also serf () or the Apache > httpclient libs. > >> 5. It's obtuse. Did they really have to invent new names for >> everything? > > I'm not sure what this is about... Maybe the author would have > preferred "STAT" over "PROPFIND"? > >> Some people praise or use WebDAV over FTP, because of FTP's 2 >> biggest glaring short-comings -- lack of encryption (a solved >> problem) and lack of authentication flexibility (how hard can it be >> to add that to an FTP server?). That's hardly a good reason to >> invent and use a new protocol which fails to meet the needs in a >> bunch of other ways, and is pig slow and inefficient compared to >> FTP. 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    ------=_NextPart_000_1C614_01C81C0D.6ACFE060-- From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Wed Oct 31 21:53:00 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1InPEy-0006O3-F1 for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:53:00 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org ([128.30.52.56]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1InPEj-0007gy-8L for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:52:55 -0400 Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InPCy-00082m-7f for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:50:56 +0000 Received: from maggie.w3.org ([193.51.208.68]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InPCx-00081p-1R for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:50:55 +0000 Received: from [200.68.120.76] (helo=ns1.proxlan.com.ar) by maggie.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InPCp-0008H3-Od for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:50:54 +0000 Received: from localhost (ns1.local [127.0.0.1]) by ns1.proxlan.com.ar (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1B12D52F7; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:52:24 -0300 (ART) Received: from ns1.proxlan.com.ar ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns1.proxlan.com.ar [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kKaA-i34-7J8; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:52:24 -0300 (ART) Received: from www.hecsa.com.ar (ns1.local [127.0.0.1]) by ns1.proxlan.com.ar (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116C52D52F1; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:52:24 -0300 (ART) Received: from 201.213.18.235 (SquirrelMail authenticated user hecsa@hecsa.com.ar); by www.hecsa.com.ar with HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:52:24 -0300 (ART) Message-ID: <1135.201.213.18.235.1193881944.squirrel@201.213.18.235> In-Reply-To: <4728F1F7.9020508@onlinehome.de> References: %3C1317.201.213.18.235.1193789192.squirrel@201.213.18.235%3E <4728F1F7.9020508@onlinehome.de> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:52:24 -0300 (ART) From: "HeCSa" To: "Werner Baumann" Cc: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org User-Agent: OverLook/1.4.3a X-Mailer: OverLook/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: none X-SPF-Guess: pass X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: maggie.w3.org 1InPCp-0008H3-Od 570e76cbc093b7f7604e728813f1d28c X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: Problems with webdav & unzip Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12782 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:50:56 +0000 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: 50a516d93fd399dc60588708fd9a3002 Werner: Thanks a lot for your answer! The OS I'm using is Red Hat AS 4 Update 5. The packages used to mount the davfs2 shares are these: [root@dbserver01 ~]# rpm -qa | grep fuse fuse-kmdl-2.6.9-55.ELhugemem-2.7.0-3_7.el4 fuse-davfs2-1.2.1-1.el4.rf fuse-2.7.0-3_7.el4 [root@dbserver01 ~]# The /etc/fstab is configured in this way: http://webserver/shared /mnt/shared davfs =20 uid=3Doracle,gid=3Doinstall,dir_mode=3D770 0 0 The /etc/davfs2/davfs2.conf contents (all but commented) are these: dav_user oracle dav_group dba I was looking for the debug option on the davfs2.conf man page, but I didn't found anything. How do I enable it? Thanks a lot!!! HeCSa. > > > Any idea on where to start? > > You might tell what client software you use. I assume it is davfs2 > (because of the lost+found-directory). > > Apaches access-log would be of interest, as it shows the requests from > the clients and the response code. > > If the client is davfs2, the debug option in davfs2.conf will create a > lot of information in one of your log-files. > > Werner > > From w3c-dist-auth-request@listhub.w3.org Wed Oct 31 21:53:06 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1InPF4-0006cn-Ft for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:53:06 -0400 Received: from frink.w3.org ([128.30.52.56]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1InPF3-0007ia-7V for webdav-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:53:06 -0400 Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InPEs-00005W-LH for w3c-dist-auth-dist@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:52:54 +0000 Received: from wiggum.w3.org ([128.30.52.23]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InPEr-0008WF-Nq for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:52:53 +0000 Received: from nobody by wiggum.w3.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1InPEr-0004w3-MN for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:52:53 +0000 Received: from aji.w3.org ([133.27.228.225]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InEBO-0001oq-30 for w3c-dist-auth@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:04:34 +0000 Received: from smtp.aaisp.net.uk ([81.187.81.52]) by aji.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InEBE-00048l-D1 for w3c-dist-auth@w3.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:04:32 +0000 Received: from mail.manyfish.co.uk ([81.187.127.133]) by smtp.aaisp.net.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1InEB8-0002PA-7u; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:04:18 +0000 Received: from joe by mail.manyfish.co.uk with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1InEB5-00050J-Vq; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:04:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:04:15 +0000 From: Joe Orton To: Julian Reschke Cc: WebDAV Message-ID: <20071031140415.GA18688@manyfish.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Julian Reschke , WebDAV References: <47276473.80308@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47276473.80308@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (Version: ClamAV 0.91.2/4647/Wed Oct 31 12:43:08 2007, by smtp.aaisp.net.uk) Received-SPF: none X-SPF-Guess: neutral X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: aji.w3.org 1InEBE-00048l-D1 c67a2f5f3490bab7b95c3051ab9a227f X-caa-id: 74f720fabe5f985ebc9f X-Original-To: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Subject: Re: Blog comments on -- "Why I don't like WebDAV, part 1" Archived-At: Resent-From: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/12783 X-Loop: w3c-dist-auth@w3.org Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: w3c-dist-auth-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:52:54 +0000 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: cf4fa59384e76e63313391b70cd0dd25 On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 06:05:55PM +0100, Julian Reschke wrote: > WebDAV is as fast as FTP, usually being only limited by bandwidth and > latency of the link. And of course there are lots of other reasons to > like WebDAV, such as that it *is* HTTP -- no new URI needed to edit > something that already is on the web. DAV is typically (really, always) *faster* than FTP, since it doesn't require the set up of a new TCP connection for each data transfer. 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