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Geoffrey M Clemm wrote:
>  > Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments
>  > you may receive.
>  >
>  > Document: draft-ietf-webdav-bind-23
>  > Reviewer: Pete McCann
>  > Review Date: 29 May 2009
>  > IETF LC End Date: 28 May 2009
>  > IESG Telechat date: unknown
>  >
>  > Summary: Ready for publication as Experimental.  I had a few minor
>  >          questions that might just be a result of my own lack of
>  >          understanding.
>  >
>  > Major issues:
>  >
>  > Minor issues:
>  >
>  > Section 2.3:
>  >    If because of multiple
>  >    bindings to a resource, more than one source resource updates a
>  >    single destination resource, the order of the updates is server
>  >    defined.
>  > Are you trying to say that a Request-URI can map to more than one
>  > resource?  I didn't think this was possible.
> 
> This is the scenario where the source collection, S, contains two 
> bindings to two distinct resources (S/a->R1 and S/b->R2), while the 
> destination collection D contains two bindings to the same resource 
> (D/a->R3 and D/b->R3).  If you copy S to D, then after the copy, it is 
> up to the server whether R3 has the same content as R1 or R2.
> 
> So it is a case of two bindings to the same resource, not a single URI 
> being mapped to more than one resource (which as you say, is impossible).

Furthermore, we have added an example for this case in draft 24; see 
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-webdav-bind-24#section-2.3.2>.

>  >    If a COPY request would cause a new resource to be created as a copy
>  >    of an existing resource, and that COPY request has already created a
>  >    copy of that existing resource, the COPY request instead creates
>  >    another binding to the previous copy, instead of creating a new
>  >    resource.
>  > This confused me a bit, but after reading the examples in the next
>  > section I think I understand what is intended here: do you mean that
>  > if the resource graph pointed at by the Request-URI itself has multiple
>  > bindings to the same resouce, that resource is only copied once by
>  > the COPY operation?
> 
> Yes.
> 
>  > Nits/editorial comments:
>  >
>  > Abstract:  s/insure/ensure/
> 
> Agreed.

(Fixed in -24 as well).

Best regards, Julian


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Hi,

the following question reached me off-list:

 > - Section 2.3.2: I'm not sure if allowing undefined behaviour in this
 > case is a good or bad idea. It seems like it might surprise a
 > potential user.

So this refers to the (new, as of version -24) example in 2.3.2, and to 
the spec text in 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-webdav-bind-24.html#rfc.section.2.3.p.4>:

"If a COPY request causes an existing resource to be updated, the 
bindings to that resource MUST be unaffected by the COPY request. Using 
the preceding example, suppose that a COPY request is issued to URI-X 
for resource R', with the Destination header set to URI-2. The content 
and dead properties of resource R would be updated to be a copy of those 
of resource R', but the mappings from URI-1, URI-2, and URI-3 to 
resource R remain unaffected. If because of multiple bindings to a 
resource, more than one source resource updates a single destination 
resource, the order of the updates is server defined (see Section 2.3.2 
for an example)."

Answer: it is very hard to specify the behavior for COPY when 
overwriting existing resources, even in absence of multiple bindings.

RFC 2518 started with a very simplistic view:

"If a resource exists at the destination and the Overwrite header is "T" 
then prior to performing the copy the server MUST perform a DELETE with 
"Depth: infinity" on the destination resource. If the Overwrite header 
is set to "F" then the operation will fail." -- 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc2518.html#rfc.section.8.8.4>

That proved to be too simple, because it means that copying *to* a 
version-controlled resource always wipes out the versioning meta data. 
Thus RFC 3253 changed it to:

"RFC 2518, Section 8.8.4 states:

"If a resource exists at the destination and the Overwrite header is "T" 
then prior to performing the copy the server MUST perform a DELETE with 
"Depth: infinity" on the destination resource."

The purpose of this sentence is to ensure that following a COPY, all 
destination resources have the same content and dead properties as the 
corresponding resources identified by the request-URL (where a resource 
with a given name relative to the Destination URL "corresponds" to a 
resource with the same name relative to the request-URL). If at the time 
of the request, there already is a resource at the destination that has 
the same resource type as the corresponding resource at the request-URL, 
that resource MUST NOT be deleted, but MUST be updated to have the 
content and dead properties of its corresponding member. If a client 
wishes all resources at the destination to be deleted prior to the COPY, 
it MUST explicitly issue a DELETE request.

The difference between updating a resource and replacing a resource with 
a new resource is especially important when resource history is being 
maintained (the former adds to an existing history, while the latter 
creates a new history). In addition, locking and access control 
constraints might allow you to update a resource, but not allow you to 
delete it and create a new one in its place.

Note that this clarification does not apply to a MOVE request. A MOVE 
request with Overwrite:T MUST perform the DELETE with "Depth:infinity" 
on the destination resource prior to performing the MOVE." -- 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc3253.html#rfc.section.1.7>

This is also reflected in the revision of RFC 2518, RFC 4918:

"If a COPY request has an Overwrite header with a value of "F", and a 
resource exists at the Destination URL, the server MUST fail the request.

When a server executes a COPY request and overwrites a destination 
resource, the exact behavior MAY depend on many factors, including 
WebDAV extension capabilities (see particularly [RFC3253]). For example, 
when an ordinary resource is overwritten, the server could delete the 
target resource before doing the copy, or could do an in-place overwrite 
to preserve live properties.

When a collection is overwritten, the membership of the destination 
collection after the successful COPY request MUST be the same membership 
as the source collection immediately before the COPY. Thus, merging the 
membership of the source and destination collections together in the 
destination is not a compliant behavior.

In general, if clients require the state of the destination URL to be 
wiped out prior to a COPY (e.g., to force live properties to be reset), 
then the client could send a DELETE to the destination before the COPY 
request to ensure this reset." -- 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc4918.html#rfc.section.9.8.4>

In general, clients always have the choice of deleting the target 
resource explicitly. In that case, the BIND spec already says the server 
SHOULD preserve the binding structure:

"If a COPY request would cause a new resource to be created as a copy of 
an existing resource, and that COPY request has already created a copy 
of that existing resource, the COPY request instead creates another 
binding to the previous copy, instead of creating a new resource (see 
Section 2.3.3 for an example)." -- 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-webdav-bind-24.html#rfc.section.2.3.p.5>

For the case discussed in 2.3.2, it just didn't seem sensible to require 
a specific choice; whatever we could have chosen might have been hard to 
implement on specific backends (where the copy process get's delegated 
to a storage system that is independent of WebDAV).

BR, Julian



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Hi,

the IESG discussed WebDAV BIND last week, and apparently some of the ADs
came to the conclusion that it attempts to redefine aspects of RFC
4918, in particular through the clarification it proposes in Appendix
A (<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-webdav-bind-24#appendix-A>).

This is incorrect. In general, the BIND specification has been carefully
written so it does not require any behavior that would be incompatible
with RFC 3253 (Delta-V), RFC 3744 (ACL), or RFC 4918 (Base WebDAV). In
particular, while RFC 4918 was discussed, we (the WebDAV WG) made sure 
that it would  be clarified so that it became *possible* to specify BIND 
without changing WebDAV. Changes we made in RFC 4918 for that purpose 
(and also to better align with Delta-V) were:

- clarifying DELETE,

- clarifying the *additional* effects of a WebDAV lock on the URI it was
requested for (in addition to the resource itself being protected), and

- not requiring servers to implement COPY/Overwrite as implied DELETE on
the target (this allows keeping versioning information for DeltaV, and
the resource's identity for BIND).

So, again, all these changes are in RFC 4918!

The one thing BIND tries to do in Appendix A is to address a terminology
bug in RFC 4918, which, when talking about the "lock-root" or root of a
lock, *most* of the times refers to it as the URI through which the
resource was locked, and only in one place implies that it identifies a
resource. That is an inconsistency in RFC 4918, which, for systems that
do not support multiple bindings, is mostly harmless, but becomes
confusing in the multiple-binding case.

Due to the aforementioned feedback I've gone again through RFC 4918,
double-checking all mentions of "root" in the context of locking
(results attached at the end of the mail). I have also revised Appendix
A to be more precise on what the problem is that is being solved, and
also slightly revised the proposed replacement text for RFC 4918. Here
we go:

-- snip --

Appendix A.  Clarification to RFC2518bis' Usage of the term 'lock root'

    [RFC4918], Section 9.10.1 claims:

       A LOCK request to an existing resource will create a lock on the
       resource identified by the Request-URI, provided the resource is
       not already locked with a conflicting lock.  The resource
       identified in the Request-URI becomes the root of the lock.

    This is misleading in that it implies that the "lock root" is the
    directly locked resource, not the URI through which the lock was
    requested (see
    <http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?eid=1207>).  As a matter
    of fact, other parts of the specification use the term "lock-root" to
    talk about that URI (see [RFC4918], Section 6.1, Item 2, and Section
    14.12).  With that definition, it becomes clear that a lock affects
    the resource identified by the Request-URI (plus optionally its
    descendants), plus the URI through which the lock was requested, but
    not URIs mapped to that resource due to the existence of additional
    bindings.

    A clearer description would be:

       A LOCK request to an existing resource will create a lock on the
       resource identified by the Request-URI, provided the resource is
       not already locked with a conflicting lock.  The Request-URI
       becomes the "lock-root" of the lock.

    Note that this change makes the description consistent with the
    definition of the DAV:lockroot XML element in Section 14.12 of
    [RFC4918].

-- snip -- 
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-webdav-bind-latest.html#rfc.section.A>

I hope this clarifies this issue.

Best regards,

Julian

-- snip --
Appendix: use of the term "root" in the context of locking in RFC 4918

I have inlined my analysis of what's meant in each case (look out for 
"JR:").


6.1.  Lock Model

    This section provides a concise model for how locking behaves.  Later
    sections will provide more detail on some of the concepts and refer
    back to these model statements.  Normative statements related to LOCK
    and UNLOCK method handling can be found in the sections on those
    methods, whereas normative statements that cover any method are
    gathered here.

    1.  A lock either directly or indirectly locks a resource.

    2.  A resource becomes directly locked when a LOCK request to a URL
        of that resource creates a new lock.  The "lock-root" of the new
        lock is that URL.  If at the time of the request, the URL is not
        mapped to a resource, a new empty resource is created and
        directly locked.

JR: introduces the term "lock-root" the first time, and makes it a URL. (a)

        ...

    8.  If a request causes the lock-root of any lock to become an
        unmapped URL, then the lock MUST also be deleted by that request.

JR: for the lock-root to *become* an unmapped URL, it needs to be a URL. (b)



7.  Write Lock

    ...

    3.  A modification of the mapping of the root of the write lock,
        either to another resource or to no resource (e.g., DELETE).

    ...

JR: uses the term "root of the ... lock" as indicating a URL ("mapping
to a ... resource") (c)

    ...

7.4.  Write Locks and Collections

    ...

    In addition, a depth-infinity lock affects all write operations to
    all members of the locked collection.  With a depth-infinity lock,
    the resource identified by the root of the lock is directly locked,
    and all its members are indirectly locked.

JR: "resource identified by the root of the lock", so it's talking about
the URI (d)

    ...


9.6.  DELETE Requirements

    DELETE is defined in [RFC2616], Section 9.7, to "delete the resource
    identified by the Request-URI".  However, WebDAV changes some DELETE
    handling requirements.

    A server processing a successful DELETE request:

       MUST destroy locks rooted on the deleted resource

JR: uses "rooted", the difference between URL and resource isn't 
significant here I think (e)

       MUST remove the mapping from the Request-URI to any resource.

    ...

    Thus, after a successful DELETE operation (and in the absence of
    other actions), a subsequent GET/HEAD/PROPFIND request to the target
    Request-URI MUST return 404 (Not Found).

    ...

9.10.1.  Creating a Lock on an Existing Resource

    A LOCK request to an existing resource will create a lock on the
    resource identified by the Request-URI, provided the resource is not
    already locked with a conflicting lock.  The resource identified in
    the Request-URI becomes the root of the lock.  LOCK method requests

JR: resource, not URL (f)

    to create a new lock MUST have an XML request body.  The server MUST
    preserve the information provided by the client in the 'owner'
    element in the LOCK request.  The LOCK request MAY have a Timeout
    header.

    ...


14.12.  lockroot XML Element

    Name:   lockroot

    Purpose:   Contains the root URL of the lock, which is the URL
       through which the resource was addressed in the LOCK request.

    Description:   The href element contains the root of the lock.  The
       server SHOULD include this in all DAV:lockdiscovery property
       values and the response to LOCK requests.

    <!ELEMENT lockroot (href) >

JR: "The href element contains the root of the lock", *not "...the URI 
of the root..."; but that is clear anyway, as you can't put a resource 
into an XML element :-) (g)
    ...

16.  Precondition/Postcondition XML Elements

    ...

    Name:  no-conflicting-lock (precondition)

    Use with:  Typically 423 Locked

    Purpose:  A LOCK request failed due the presence of an already
       existing conflicting lock.  Note that a lock can be in conflict
       although the resource to which the request was directed is only
       indirectly locked.  In this case, the precondition code can be
       used to inform the client about the resource that is the root of
       the conflicting lock, avoiding a separate lookup of the
       "lockdiscovery" property.

    <!ELEMENT no-conflicting-lock (href)* >

JR: this is another case where it's used for the resource (h), maybe it 
should be clarified as well




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Hi,

this draft contains the changes proposed over the last two weeks (mainly 
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FYI - the IETF is doing a second Last Call, as the first one claimed 
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Cyrus and I submitted draft-desruisseaux-caldav-sched-07 to the IETF 
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Before requesting the IESG to consider this Internet-Draft as a Proposed 
Standard, we would like to get as much feedback as possible from the 
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the WebDAV and Calsify Working Groups.

Please review the document and send your comments to the caldav@ietf.org 
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We would like to submit draft -08 before July 13, 2009, i.e., the final 
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	Title           : CalDAV Scheduling Extensions to WebDAV
	Author(s)       : C. Daboo, B. Desruisseaux
	Filename        : draft-desruisseaux-caldav-sched-07.txt
	Pages           : 94
	Date            : 2009-06-19

This document defines extensions to the CalDAV "calendar-access"
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transactions with iCalendar-based calendar components.  This document
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Hey guys,

I have had a user reporting a bug in my WebDAV server library. To keep  
things short, I currently url-encode every segment in the href-element  
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This has thus far worked for everyone, except this user (who reported  
to use Git as a client). After removing the url-encoding of the  
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So as for the question: should the href element be url-encoded or not?  
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Am Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:19:05 -0400
schrieb Evert | Rooftop <evert@rooftopsolutions.nl>:

> I have had a user reporting a bug in my WebDAV server library. To
> keep things short, I currently url-encode every segment in the
> href-element within propfind responses.
> 
> This has thus far worked for everyone, except this user (who
> reported to use Git as a client). After removing the url-encoding of
> the contents of the href element, things started working fine.
> 
Your server was right and the client is broken. Please don't change the
server behaviour, because it would break conforming clients like e.g.
Neon. I have got a report from a user of davfs2 where exactly this
happens. The server sends href-elements like
<d:href>/documents/tier2/BOARD%20AND%20CTTE%20DOCS/Board
Meetings/</d:href>
which can not be decoded by Neon. (Note: there is an unencoded space
character between 'Board' and 'Meetings'.)
Fixing the broken applications is the only way that will work. Trying
to work around this kind of bugs would only increase the confusion and
create more interoperability problems.

> So as for the question: should the href element be url-encoded or
> not? The spec doesn't explicitly seem to mention either way. I'm
> worried if I just plain remove this, clients might pick up
> '%-sequences' in href- elements and wrongfully decode them.
> 
Yes. % is the escape character and there is no way to run some kind of
mixed mode, sometimes treating it as escape character sometimes not.

The spec *seems* to be not clear about this but this is only because it
references other specs about URIs.

> RFC 4918, 8.3.1 Example - Correct URL Handling:
> [...]
>   * '/sample/' and '/sample/a%20test'
> Note that even though the server may be storing the member resource
> internally as 'a test', it has to be percent-encoded when used inside
> a URI reference (see Section 2.1 of [RFC3986]). Also note that a legal
> URI may still contain characters that need to be escaped within XML
> character data, such as the ampersand character.

Werner


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On 28-Jun-09, at 4:29 AM, Werner Baumann wrote:

> Am Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:19:05 -0400
> schrieb Evert | Rooftop <evert@rooftopsolutions.nl>:
>
>> I have had a user reporting a bug in my WebDAV server library. To
>> keep things short, I currently url-encode every segment in the
>> href-element within propfind responses.
>>
>> This has thus far worked for everyone, except this user (who
>> reported to use Git as a client). After removing the url-encoding of
>> the contents of the href element, things started working fine.
>>
> Your server was right and the client is broken. Please don't change  
> the
> server behaviour, because it would break conforming clients like e.g.
> Neon. I have got a report from a user of davfs2 where exactly this
> happens. The server sends href-elements like
> <d:href>/documents/tier2/BOARD%20AND%20CTTE%20DOCS/Board
> Meetings/</d:href>
> which can not be decoded by Neon. (Note: there is an unencoded space
> character between 'Board' and 'Meetings'.)
> Fixing the broken applications is the only way that will work. Trying
> to work around this kind of bugs would only increase the confusion and
> create more interoperability problems.

Thanks for the concise answer, I'll see if I can get the user to file  
a bug report.

Evert
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