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Dear all,

this is my first post to this list so, if this is not the correct
mailing list to discuss the topic, please, just tell me and I'll forward
it to a more appropriate forum.

We're working at a C# implementation of RFC 4918 and while most parts of
it are quite clear we found one example that, if taken with the text
preceding it, is quite puzzling. About a COPY operation with infinite
Depth and Overwrite:T the RFC says:

    9.8.4 COPY and Overwriting Destination Resources

    [...]
    When a collection is overwritten, the membership of the destination
    collection after the successful COPY request must be the same
    membership as the source collection immediately before the COPY.
    Thus, merging the membership of the source and destination
    collections together in the destination is not a compliant behavior.
    [...]

But the example "9.8.8 Example - COPY of a Collection" says that
"[...]Because there was an error copying R2, none of R2's members were
copied.[...]". Our understanding is that in the destination tree
/othercontainer/R2/ is still the member from the original
/othercontainer/ collection while R2 siblings in the source collection
/container/ have been copied correctly.

E.g., if we're asked to COPY

/container/
/container/R1
/container/R2/
/container/R2/A

into

/othercontainer/
/othercontainer/R2/
/othercontainer/R2/X

and R2 is locked, the final layout is:

/othercontainer/R1
/othercontainer/R2/
/othercontainer/R2/X

Isn't this the opposite of the behaviour specified in 9.8.4? Did we
interpret the example the wrong way? What is the supposed behaviour if
the resources are as in the example above?

Thank you very much fir your time,

federico

-- 
Federico Di Gregorio                         federico.digregorio@dndg.it
Studio Associato Di Nunzio e Di Gregorio                  http://dndg.it
           Purtroppo i creazionisti non si sono ancora estinti. -- vodka



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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
directories.


	Title           : Use of the Prefer Header Field in Web Distributed 
Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV)
	Author(s)       : Kenneth Murchison
	Filename        : draft-murchison-webdav-prefer-00.txt
	Pages           : 26
	Date            : 2012-09-27

Abstract:
    This specification defines how the HTTP Prefer header can be used by
    a WebDAV client to request that certain behaviors be implemented by a
    server while constructing a response to a successful request.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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Folks,

This draft primarily documents what we have done with CalDAV clients and 
servers, but I'd like to make it as general as possible.  It started off 
as documenting the Brief header implemented by Exchange and then morphed 
into using Prefer.


Julian Reschke wrote:
> (FYI)
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: I-D Action: draft-murchison-webdav-prefer-00.txt
> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:09:41 -0700
> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
> 
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
> directories.
> 
> 
>     Title           : Use of the Prefer Header Field in Web Distributed 
> Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV)
>     Author(s)       : Kenneth Murchison
>     Filename        : draft-murchison-webdav-prefer-00.txt
>     Pages           : 26
>     Date            : 2012-09-27
> 
> Abstract:
>    This specification defines how the HTTP Prefer header can be used by
>    a WebDAV client to request that certain behaviors be implemented by a
>    server while constructing a response to a successful request.
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-murchison-webdav-prefer
> 
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-murchison-webdav-prefer-00
> 
> 
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-- 
Kenneth Murchison
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Ken,

not sure if what I say applies, but it might be a good idea to talk to Erik Wilde and look for synergies regarding his Profile link relation I-D?

Jan

On Sep 28, 2012, at 1:52 PM, Ken Murchison wrote:

> Folks,
> 
> This draft primarily documents what we have done with CalDAV clients and servers, but I'd like to make it as general as possible.  It started off as documenting the Brief header implemented by Exchange and then morphed into using Prefer.
> 
> 
> Julian Reschke wrote:
>> (FYI)
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: I-D Action: draft-murchison-webdav-prefer-00.txt
>> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:09:41 -0700
>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
>> Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org
>> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>>    Title           : Use of the Prefer Header Field in Web Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV)
>>    Author(s)       : Kenneth Murchison
>>    Filename        : draft-murchison-webdav-prefer-00.txt
>>    Pages           : 26
>>    Date            : 2012-09-27
>> Abstract:
>>   This specification defines how the HTTP Prefer header can be used by
>>   a WebDAV client to request that certain behaviors be implemented by a
>>   server while constructing a response to a successful request.
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-murchison-webdav-prefer
>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-murchison-webdav-prefer-00
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Kenneth Murchison
> Principal Systems Software Engineer
> Carnegie Mellon University
> 


