From tim.moses@entrust.com Fri Jan 17 08:29:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988071AE13C for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:29:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.262 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.262 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WO3pXHVeVJ0B for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:29:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ipedge1.entrust.com (ipedge1.entrust.com [216.191.252.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804411AE114 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:29:07 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,674,1384318800"; d="scan'208,217";a="1749593" Received: from unknown (HELO sottexchcas.corp.ad.entrust.com) ([10.4.51.93]) by ipedge1.entrust.com with ESMTP; 17 Jan 2014 11:28:52 -0500 Received: from SOTTEXCH10.corp.ad.entrust.com ([fe80::389b:f45b:7ea1:79b7]) by sottexchcas1.corp.ad.entrust.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:28:52 -0500 From: Tim Moses To: "wpkops@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Bookmark this page Thread-Index: Ac8ToTTer68hqgVjS46VOfhLZB8kvA== Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:28:51 +0000 Message-ID: <5B68A271B9C97046963CB6A5B8D6F62CB7B308A7@SOTTEXCH10.corp.ad.entrust.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.4.160.17] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_5B68A271B9C97046963CB6A5B8D6F62CB7B308A7SOTTEXCH10corpa_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [wpkops] Bookmark this page X-BeenThere: wpkops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:29:09 -0000 --_000_5B68A271B9C97046963CB6A5B8D6F62CB7B308A7SOTTEXCH10corpa_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Colleagues - Here is the working group Wiki. http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/wpkops/trac/wiki The questionnaire is there. And, responses will be posted there once we ha= ve them. Remember, the deadline for responses is 2014-01-31. I know I don't have to= tell you that the productivity of the meeting in London is dependent on a = thorough set of responses by the deadline. Thanks a lot. All the best. Tim. --_000_5B68A271B9C97046963CB6A5B8D6F62CB7B308A7SOTTEXCH10corpa_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Colleagues – Here is the working group Wiki.

http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/wpkops/trac/wiki

The questionnaire is there. And, responses wil= l be posted there once we have them.

Remember, the deadline for responses is 2014-01-31.&= nbsp; I know I don’t have to tell you that the productivity of the me= eting in London is dependent on a thorough set of responses by the deadline= .

Thanks a lot. All the best. Tim.

--_000_5B68A271B9C97046963CB6A5B8D6F62CB7B308A7SOTTEXCH10corpa_-- From Rick_Andrews@symantec.com Fri Jan 17 09:01:49 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858DF1AE14F for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:01:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.839 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.839 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MzOHVV6GrDcY for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:01:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ecl1mtaoutpex01.symantec.com (ecl1mtaoutpex01.symantec.com [166.98.1.209]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0875C1AE0EC for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:01:46 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: a66201d1-b7fdf8e0000061bd-36-52d961ec1504 Received: from tus1opsmtapin02.ges.symantec.com (tus1opsmtapin02.ges.symantec.com [192.168.214.44]) by ecl1mtaoutpex01.symantec.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway out) with SMTP id 25.8D.25021.CE169D25; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 17:01:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [155.64.220.139] (helo=TUS1XCHHUBPIN03.SYMC.SYMANTEC.COM) by tus1opsmtapin02.ges.symantec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1W4CnU-00081b-6M; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 17:01:32 +0000 Received: from TUS1XCHEVSPIN33.SYMC.SYMANTEC.COM ([155.64.220.146]) by TUS1XCHHUBPIN03.SYMC.SYMANTEC.COM ([155.64.220.139]) with mapi; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:01:32 -0800 From: Rick Andrews To: Tim Moses , "wpkops@ietf.org" Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:01:30 -0800 Thread-Topic: Bookmark this page Thread-Index: Ac8ToTTer68hqgVjS46VOfhLZB8kvAABEP5A Message-ID: <544B0DD62A64C1448B2DA253C011414607C291544B@TUS1XCHEVSPIN33.SYMC.SYMANTEC.COM> References: <5B68A271B9C97046963CB6A5B8D6F62CB7B308A7@SOTTEXCH10.corp.ad.entrust.com> In-Reply-To: <5B68A271B9C97046963CB6A5B8D6F62CB7B308A7@SOTTEXCH10.corp.ad.entrust.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_544B0DD62A64C1448B2DA253C011414607C291544BTUS1XCHEVSPIN_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrKIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsVyYMU1Hd03iTeDDFYdMrJYdHADq8XNU9tZ HZg8Xn7ezeixZMlPpgCmKC6blNSczLLUIn27BK6MSQt2sxYc1K9oedPO2sC4X7OLkZNDQsBE 4uLhTmYIW0ziwr31bF2MXBxCAh8YJW50rmQESQgJvGKU2NNaB5FYxSjxbVM/WIJNQE9iy+Mr 7F2MHBwiAl4SPQfqQEwWAVWJN1MNQCqEBeQldu/bwgZiiwgoSMxdcJsJwjaSOL59FSNIOa9A lMT97+YQm0IlFt+dyw5icwqESSz9uw2snBHotO+n1oDZzALiEreezGeCOFlAYsme81Dni0q8 fPyPFaJeVOJO+3pGiPp8iedrmsBO4BUQlDg58wnLBEbRWUhGzUJSNgtJGURcR2LB7k9sELa2 xLKFr5lh7DMHHjMhiy9gZF/FKJOanGOYW5KYX1pSkFphYKhXXJmbCIy6ZL3k/NxNjMDIW5bE eHEH44XDuocYBTgYlXh4i+NuBgmxJpYBVR5ilOBgVhLh/esJFOJNSaysSi3Kjy8qzUktPsQo zcGiJM5r/KgjSEggPbEkNTs1tSC1CCbLxMEp1cCYZKc44eDq0G2lOhMK/xT6ZNiGifNN85WQ CDq83CtQWkn3dvnDyIY33n/rP3K8jDLeYfZylTR/xcEXZ505De+2bwyONtobFJY9LXn64R2X M4NzpkvduaO14t/LxtbIk0lswlcUT282l9V395jvn7RihuW7sjtiBVH/L3NalSyL9+8SUJ21 QUyJpTgj0VCLuag4EQCVR2eWuAIAAA== Subject: Re: [wpkops] Bookmark this page X-BeenThere: wpkops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 17:01:49 -0000 --_000_544B0DD62A64C1448B2DA253C011414607C291544BTUS1XCHEVSPIN_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tim, after I sent the reminder earlier this week, I got a trickle of respon= ses from CAs. But there's no response yet from any browser or web server ve= ndor. If any of you are on this email list, please make it a priority. And I'm a little concerned that I've gotten zero response from Apache. I in= itially asked for someone just to come forward and tell me that they would = fill out the survey, but I've heard nothing. Ben Laurie, are there any arms= you can twist to get someone or some group to step up? Given Apache's mark= et share, it's critical that we have their participation. -Rick From: wpkops [mailto:wpkops-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tim Moses Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 8:29 AM To: wpkops@ietf.org Subject: [wpkops] Bookmark this page Colleagues - Here is the working group Wiki. http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/wpkops/trac/wiki The questionnaire is there. And, responses will be posted there once we ha= ve them. Remember, the deadline for responses is 2014-01-31. I know I don't have to= tell you that the productivity of the meeting in London is dependent on a = thorough set of responses by the deadline. Thanks a lot. All the best. Tim. --_000_544B0DD62A64C1448B2DA253C011414607C291544BTUS1XCHEVSPIN_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Tim, after I sent the reminder earlier this week, I got a tri= ckle of responses from CAs. But there’s no response yet from any brow= ser or web server vendor. If any of you are on this email list, please make= it a priority.

And I’m a little concerned that I’ve gotten = zero response from Apache. I initially asked for someone just to come forwa= rd and tell me that they would fill out the survey, but I’ve heard no= thing. Ben Laurie, are there any arms you can twist to get someone or some = group to step up? Given Apache’s market share, it’s critical th= at we have their participation.

<= span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>

-Rick

From: wpkops [mailto:wpkops-bounces@ietf.org]= On Behalf Of Tim Moses
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 8:2= 9 AM
To: wpkops@ietf.org
Subject: [wpkops] Bookmark thi= s page

Colleagues – Here is the working group Wi= ki.

http://tra= c.tools.ietf.org/wg/wpkops/trac/wiki

The questionnaire is there. = ; And, responses will be posted there once we have them.

Remember, the de= adline for responses is 2014-01-31. I know I don’t have to tell= you that the productivity of the meeting in London is dependent on a thoro= ugh set of responses by the deadline.

Thanks a lot. All the best.&n= bsp; Tim.

= --_000_544B0DD62A64C1448B2DA253C011414607C291544BTUS1XCHEVSPIN_-- From pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz Fri Jan 17 15:43:19 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6628A1AD7C1 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:43:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.438 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.438 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WiNrJo3P9mxQ for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:43:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.auckland.ac.nz (mx2.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.125.245]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF211ACCF8 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:43:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=auckland.ac.nz; i=@auckland.ac.nz; q=dns/txt; s=uoa; t=1390002184; x=1421538184; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=Y8wrpfzxXloJc/rIlBjAoTQLPo9FMqIh8ItivHJsg9E=; b=FGLDgyOf+SsmmVopViiBTM8ipXLh7CIWi20IJp0EYPsN6EhHp2Mreh5l TMDXIn4VWwr++9XsWMDYRXJEMrNRAi58psZMuqO3cj/EavMXLtZL1WO24 u0KuTCCARdNoCOsFxUbJZa8oj2YcJP+Wuho/539GIzfOvhtcUpzFqOqDp s=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,676,1384254000"; d="scan'208";a="230064069" X-Ironport-HAT: MAIL-SERVERS - $RELAYED X-Ironport-Source: 130.216.4.125 - Outgoing - Outgoing Received: from uxchange10-fe3.uoa.auckland.ac.nz ([130.216.4.125]) by mx2-int.auckland.ac.nz with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 18 Jan 2014 12:42:59 +1300 Received: from UXCN10-TDC06.UoA.auckland.ac.nz ([169.254.11.205]) by uxchange10-fe3.UoA.auckland.ac.nz ([130.216.4.125]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 12:42:59 +1300 From: Peter Gutmann To: "wpkops@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [wpkops] Bookmark this page Thread-Index: Ac8T3dpjIITVssr+TeGNcvCuMsZvUA== Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 23:42:59 +0000 Message-ID: <9A043F3CF02CD34C8E74AC1594475C737235A941@uxcn10-tdc06.UoA.auckland.ac.nz> Accept-Language: en-NZ, en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-NZ X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.216.158.4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [wpkops] Bookmark this page X-BeenThere: wpkops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 23:43:19 -0000 Rick Andrews writes:=0A= =0A= >Tim, after I sent the reminder earlier this week, I got a trickle of=0A= >responses from CAs. But there=92s no response yet from any browser or web= =0A= >server vendor. If any of you are on this email list, please make it a=0A= >priority.=0A= =0A= How is one supposed to fill this in/submit it? It's a static web page with= =0A= pre-encoded responses already present. The text makes it read like it's me= ant=0A= to be an online form to fill out, but there's no facility for filling anyth= ing=0A= out or submitting it.=0A= =0A= Peter.=0A= From Rick_Andrews@symantec.com Fri Jan 17 15:48:32 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E571A8028 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:48:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.439 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.439 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yov9cIqUAHzV for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:48:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from tus1smtoutpex01.symantec.com (tus1smtoutpex01.symantec.com [216.10.195.241]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3198F1A1521 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:48:31 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: d80ac3f1-b7fba8e000001722-06-52d9c14226c5 Received: from ecl1mtahubpin02.ges.symantec.com (ecl1mtahubpin02.ges.symantec.com [10.48.69.202]) by tus1smtoutpex01.symantec.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway out) with SMTP id 5C.8D.05922.241C9D25; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 23:48:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [155.64.220.137] (helo=TUS1XCHHUBPIN01.SYMC.SYMANTEC.COM) by ecl1mtahubpin02.ges.symantec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1W4J98-0004et-0p; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 18:48:18 -0500 Received: from TUS1XCHEVSPIN33.SYMC.SYMANTEC.COM ([155.64.220.146]) by TUS1XCHHUBPIN01.SYMC.SYMANTEC.COM ([155.64.220.137]) with mapi; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:48:12 -0800 From: Rick Andrews To: Peter Gutmann , "wpkops@ietf.org" Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:48:11 -0800 Thread-Topic: [wpkops] Bookmark this page Thread-Index: Ac8T3dpjIITVssr+TeGNcvCuMsZvUAAAIjpg Message-ID: <544B0DD62A64C1448B2DA253C011414607C2F54EE9@TUS1XCHEVSPIN33.SYMC.SYMANTEC.COM> References: <9A043F3CF02CD34C8E74AC1594475C737235A941@uxcn10-tdc06.UoA.auckland.ac.nz> In-Reply-To: <9A043F3CF02CD34C8E74AC1594475C737235A941@uxcn10-tdc06.UoA.auckland.ac.nz> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprIIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsXCZeB6Stfp4M0gg71LlSxevnvOanHz1HZW ByaPi40HmDyWLPnJFMAUxWWTkpqTWZZapG+XwJXxrO8na8F3zooLc28wNTD+ZO9i5OSQEDCR uDm/jRnCFpO4cG89WxcjF4eQwDtGiYv3WlkgnFeMEteXfYNyVjFK/D81F6yFTUBPYsvjK2Cj RARCJLa1T2cEsVkEVCU6FlwBs4UFNCQuPLjDClGjKbFu9x2oeiOJvn2rmEBsXoEoic9nIWqE BMIkDu8+CjafUyBc4tzB72BzGIHO+35qDVg9s4C4xK0n85kgzhaQWLLnPNQLohIvH/9jhagX lbjTvp4Rol5HYsHuT2wQtrbEsoWvmSH2CkqcnPmEZQKj2CwkY2chaZmFpGUWkpYFjCyrGGVK SosNi3NL8ktLClIrDAz1iitzE4HRlKyXnJ+7iREYUTe4Dn/cwXh9qeIhRgEORiUe3qR9N4OE WBPLgCoPMUpwMCuJ8L5uBwrxpiRWVqUW5ccXleakFh9ilOZgURLnXZK+IkhIID2xJDU7NbUg tQgmy8TBKdXAeONluEKT4pUOvlBOr2UrXk21yD4te7vt0aELWi9Nn5X2p+9kYHwUWuD+7Fvm dkdfXalrrXrTWnOq7gjzN8uZdJkoS5snTGfedr43W2iDULSZXZfk1DIvv2mvFx5kPPgrvPxw KXOf8eyMk9vDXnn/m6pdZfKdi7/wb+qea3oeS5vZxXa6b7imxFKckWioxVxUnAgAceMY1KQC AAA= Subject: Re: [wpkops] Bookmark this page X-BeenThere: wpkops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 23:48:32 -0000 Peter, I sent everyone a Word and PDF document, expecting that they can eit= her edit the Word doc or copy the PDF into whatever text editor they wanted= to use. I'll take the answers in any format. I think Tim intended the wiki page to just serve as a reference, not as a f= illable form. -Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: wpkops [mailto:wpkops-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter > Gutmann > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 3:43 PM > To: wpkops@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [wpkops] Bookmark this page >=20 > Rick Andrews writes: >=20 > >Tim, after I sent the reminder earlier this week, I got a trickle of > >responses from CAs. But there's no response yet from any browser or > web > >server vendor. If any of you are on this email list, please make it a > >priority. >=20 > How is one supposed to fill this in/submit it? It's a static web page > with > pre-encoded responses already present. The text makes it read like > it's meant > to be an online form to fill out, but there's no facility for filling > anything > out or submitting it. >=20 > Peter. > _______________________________________________ > wpkops mailing list > wpkops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkops From pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz Fri Jan 17 15:55:48 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E171AD8C4 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:55:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.438 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.438 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I7eILuHsr59J for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.auckland.ac.nz (mx1.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.125.243]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908781ACCF8 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:55:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=auckland.ac.nz; i=@auckland.ac.nz; q=dns/txt; s=uoa; t=1390002934; x=1421538934; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=PYo/LSj4z5pbRj/nqyPHW8zO7Fl6+9jSqwcwpKvDA6Q=; b=fJBXz2gBMy4gJuyPVV+/d/c9NSmmXsIY9fOq+p9VAPzKDwydWT2lbeWX qzmU4bg8aljWAGPOAd+yjnA8rJdsTgAyQehVF0wpWPP1+x/pmCUhoHEys ccp4ffYC45aJaMTVcORNWUVYjkRkR4nyXpXjMfrscW38/X2aTF9Lv/ywM U=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,676,1384254000"; d="scan'208";a="308368609" X-Ironport-HAT: MAIL-SERVERS - $RELAYED X-Ironport-Source: 130.216.4.125 - Outgoing - Outgoing Received: from uxchange10-fe3.uoa.auckland.ac.nz ([130.216.4.125]) by mx1-int.auckland.ac.nz with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 18 Jan 2014 12:55:33 +1300 Received: from UXCN10-TDC06.UoA.auckland.ac.nz ([169.254.11.205]) by uxchange10-fe3.UoA.auckland.ac.nz ([130.216.4.125]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 12:55:32 +1300 From: Peter Gutmann To: "wpkops@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [wpkops] Bookmark this page Thread-Index: Ac8T35vC573QlnIzSkSOss/HBXuwpw== Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 23:55:32 +0000 Message-ID: <9A043F3CF02CD34C8E74AC1594475C737235AA7F@uxcn10-tdc06.UoA.auckland.ac.nz> Accept-Language: en-NZ, en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-NZ X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.216.158.4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [wpkops] Bookmark this page X-BeenThere: wpkops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 23:55:48 -0000 Rick Andrews writes:=0A= =0A= >Peter, I sent everyone a Word and PDF document, expecting that they can=0A= >either edit the Word doc or copy the PDF into whatever text editor they=0A= >wanted to use. I'll take the answers in any format.=0A= =0A= So you sent people the Apache folks, a bunch of open-source hippies with pi= zza=0A= stains in their +5 Unix beards, a Word document to fill out? [*] I think I= may=0A= have identified the problem with the lack of response...=0A= =0A= Peter.=0A= =0A= [*] I realise this is a blatant mischaracterisation of most Apache folks,= =0A= insert your own stereotype here.=0A= From joelja@bogus.com Wed Jan 22 12:32:31 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599171A0493 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:32:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.435 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.435 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.535] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IH9OpVIMct_W for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nagasaki.bogus.com (nagasaki.bogus.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B001A0494 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mb-aye.local (c-50-174-18-221.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [50.174.18.221]) (authenticated bits=0) by nagasaki.bogus.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0MKWSDv089040 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 20:32:29 GMT (envelope-from joelja@bogus.com) Message-ID: <52E02AD7.5050607@bogus.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:32:23 -0800 From: joel jaeggli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:27.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/27.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wpkops WG X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="v5oGa2cjE7Up45bwoJnOC3vtNEPIrpMsv" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (nagasaki.bogus.com [147.28.0.81]); Wed, 22 Jan 2014 20:32:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [wpkops] Soon to be external review - Proposed Charter for Public Notary Transparency X-BeenThere: wpkops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 20:32:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --v5oGa2cjE7Up45bwoJnOC3vtNEPIrpMsv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would draw your attention to this wg charter, which is likely to be in external review soon enough. I would very much like the feedback and expertise from some of the members of this community. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-trans/ Thanks Joel --v5oGa2cjE7Up45bwoJnOC3vtNEPIrpMsv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.22 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlLgKtcACgkQ8AA1q7Z/VrJkKgCdE1RNGKfxjmbDia9hlxjFq+DG dlUAn0nzO6aCW1pvABFupfEqwPX4Acf4 =U550 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --v5oGa2cjE7Up45bwoJnOC3vtNEPIrpMsv-- From tim.moses@entrust.com Wed Jan 22 13:35:14 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38E71A034A for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:35:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.436 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.436 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.535, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vc8wP_1AnhIT for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:35:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ipedge1.entrust.com (ipedge1.entrust.com [216.191.252.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B201A0120 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:35:10 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,702,1384318800"; d="scan'208";a="1796877" Received: from unknown (HELO sottexchcas.corp.ad.entrust.com) ([10.4.51.93]) by ipedge1.entrust.com with ESMTP; 22 Jan 2014 16:35:08 -0500 Received: from SOTTEXCH10.corp.ad.entrust.com ([fe80::389b:f45b:7ea1:79b7]) by sottexchcas1.corp.ad.entrust.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 16:35:07 -0500 From: Tim Moses To: joel jaeggli Thread-Topic: [wpkops] Soon to be external review - Proposed Charter for Public Notary Transparency Thread-Index: AQHPF7EW5jPlF0MMnEeb1MLHI4f++pqRl+0A Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 21:35:06 +0000 Message-ID: References: <52E02AD7.5050607@bogus.com> In-Reply-To: <52E02AD7.5050607@bogus.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4567A22E9BFAE1479E9812760BA84110@entrust.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: wpkops WG Subject: Re: [wpkops] Soon to be external review - Proposed Charter for Public Notary Transparency X-BeenThere: wpkops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 21:35:14 -0000 Joel - This project seems a great way to address one of the main criticisms= of the Web PKI trust model; that all the CAs must act in a trustworthy man= ner, no matter how many there may be or how poorly resourced some of them m= ay be. If I've understood correctly, the project will be incomplete until there ex= ists an effective way for clients, acting in the auditor capacity, to compa= re their versions of logs. Without that, the need for blind trust is not e= liminated entirely. Of all the attempts we have seen to address the trust model problem, this p= roject seems to me to hold the most promise. All the best. Tim. > On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:32 PM, "joel jaeggli" wrote: >=20 > I would draw your attention to this wg charter, which is likely to be in > external review soon enough. I would very much like the feedback and > expertise from some of the members of this community. >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-trans/ >=20 > Thanks > Joel >=20 > _______________________________________________ > wpkops mailing list > wpkops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkops From eabalea@gmail.com Fri Jan 31 02:13:11 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90DD1A0586 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 02:13:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.622 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.622 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EfpBIfpNtNxe for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 02:13:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qa0-x22b.google.com (mail-qa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22b]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBC01A0579 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 02:13:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id o15so5943448qap.16 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 02:13:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rfyRHa2CIf8jc4XyeBThmAfnK6u0lXuQpp+q8c4ng10=; b=CfPvcmR3z7TQdc8HR4zccOIqJpXlnXbOq7ygj76p3hOXO6wUaFYoFnBKr6p2MOlqif YG6MYodLG1imaYYeJn30Fg4u6F+E9K9UvZ6wRnSWSymDfkhalroLHyD3ZMJxawbwRz3p GnFgUdh2XRiI52tZOR/MWkz00TOoKjPd8kgd5qMwwZ/aBIM/+MqXv5GiPKc13gCnlAxn GDtDkMrL6z65c1OyBpeUJqsEZqxqP+G+03tDSvYYJfR5Ai2hi9c3Wcuhzr9nqB0wiYHV 6ZPYoyLPWLWv75FAX9Pp893dq4ilrflOSKTk1r3u9ZTtAk8l4s417JEjjqvi4XzFfWnk Ox9g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.89.52 with SMTP id u49mr28432160qgd.93.1391163186597; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 02:13:06 -0800 (PST) Sender: eabalea@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.97.200 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 02:13:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9A043F3CF02CD34C8E74AC1594475C737235AA7F@uxcn10-tdc06.UoA.auckland.ac.nz> References: <9A043F3CF02CD34C8E74AC1594475C737235AA7F@uxcn10-tdc06.UoA.auckland.ac.nz> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:13:06 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TFYuMqszd-yu6D0-3H6sHevbOhM Message-ID: From: Erwann ABALEA To: Peter Gutmann Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1236a8fd39f04f1416b2a Cc: "wpkops@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [wpkops] Bookmark this page X-BeenThere: wpkops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 10:13:11 -0000 --001a11c1236a8fd39f04f1416b2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2014-01-18 Peter Gutmann > Rick Andrews writes: > > >Peter, I sent everyone a Word and PDF document, expecting that they can > >either edit the Word doc or copy the PDF into whatever text editor they > >wanted to use. I'll take the answers in any format. > > So you sent people the Apache folks, a bunch of open-source hippies with > pizza > stains in their +5 Unix beards, a Word document to fill out? [*] I think > I may > have identified the problem with the lack of response... > At least the Word doc is workable with LibreOffice. Not the best tool, I admit. -- Erwann. --001a11c1236a8fd39f04f1416b2a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= 2014-01-18 Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>=

Rick Andrews <Rick_Andrews@symantec.com> writes:

>Peter, I sent everyone a Word and PDF document, expecting that they can=
>either edit the Word doc or copy the PDF into whatever text editor they=
>wanted to use. I'll take the answers in any format.

So you sent people the Apache folks, a bunch of open-source hippies w= ith pizza
stains in their +5 Unix beards, a Word document to fill out? [*] =C2=A0I th= ink I may
have identified the problem with the lack of response...

At least the Word doc is workable with LibreOffice. Not t= he best tool, I admit.

--
Erwann.

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