From agentx-admin@ietf.org Thu Nov 20 13:05:23 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA16234 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMtAt-0005Bf-2X; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMpX3-00045N-Ft for agentx@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:41 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA04917 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMpX1-0003S3-00 for agentx@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:39 -0500 Received: from pcls2.std.com ([192.74.137.142] helo=TheWorld.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMpX0-0003S0-00 for agentx@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:39 -0500 Received: from ieee.org (206-15-136-43.dialup.ziplink.net [206.15.136.43]) by TheWorld.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAKEBVZh006043 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBCF6C5.4040805@ieee.org> From: Mark Ellison User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: agentx@ietf.org References: <3b2eb716.0311190256.347492a6@posting.google.com> In-Reply-To: <3b2eb716.0311190256.347492a6@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Agentx] Re: AgentX availability Sender: agentx-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: agentx-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: agentx@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: SNMP Agent Extensibility List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:15:49 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi T, T.Mangold wrote: > Hi ! > I'm currently writing an subagent for an application MIB and need a > way to communicate with a "native agent" already present on the target > systems. > I developed an extension DLL on Windows NT. > Now I focus on unix platform Linux, HPUX, Solaris, AIX. Apperently, > the future of the master/subagent architecture is AgentX, isn't it ? There have been a number of extensible agent architectures that preceded AgentX - DPI (1.0 and 2.0), SMUX, eSNMP, and EMANATE are examples. AgentX was designed as a suitable replacement for these predecessors. > On Linux, I found net-snmp which implements AgentX, but I have > difficulties to find out what happens on other unix. > HPUX seems to use SNMP Research's EMANATE agent, but it is not clear > if it includes the support of AgentX in the OEM version installed on > HPUX 11. I think AgentX support under EMANATE is an add-on agent adapter. Best information would come from HP re HPUX11 or SRI re their add-on. As Rob points out, The native SNMP agent shipped with HP/Compaq's Tru64 UNIX and VMS support AgentX. There is a list of known AgentX implementations on the AgentX web page. Additions and changes to to the implementation list can be requested via the site webmaster. > > So, does anyone know if the AgentX protocol is natively available on > HPUX, Solaris or AIX ? I do not want to replace the native agent > supplied by these unix, but just find a way of extending it -- > preferably the same on all systems ! Yes, this is the goal of AgentX. There is a web page for AgentX at http://www.scguild.com/agentx/. You might also want to check in on the AgentX email list at agentx@ietf.org (subscribe at agentx-request@ietf.org) > > Thanks a lot, > Thibault Regards, Mark From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Nov 20 13:05:25 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA16261 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMtAy-0005Dg-Ou for agentx-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:08 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAKI58CO020064 for agentx-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:08 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMtAy-0005DX-M8 for agentx-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:08 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA16219 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMtAw-0007Kt-00 for agentx-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:06 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMtAw-0007Kl-00 for agentx-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:06 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMtAt-0005Bf-2X; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMpX3-00045N-Ft for agentx@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:41 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA04917 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMpX1-0003S3-00 for agentx@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:39 -0500 Received: from pcls2.std.com ([192.74.137.142] helo=TheWorld.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMpX0-0003S0-00 for agentx@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:39 -0500 Received: from ieee.org (206-15-136-43.dialup.ziplink.net [206.15.136.43]) by TheWorld.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAKEBVZh006043 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBCF6C5.4040805@ieee.org> From: Mark Ellison User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: agentx@ietf.org References: <3b2eb716.0311190256.347492a6@posting.google.com> In-Reply-To: <3b2eb716.0311190256.347492a6@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Agentx] Re: AgentX availability Sender: agentx-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: agentx-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: agentx@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: SNMP Agent Extensibility List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:15:49 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi T, T.Mangold wrote: > Hi ! > I'm currently writing an subagent for an application MIB and need a > way to communicate with a "native agent" already present on the target > systems. > I developed an extension DLL on Windows NT. > Now I focus on unix platform Linux, HPUX, Solaris, AIX. Apperently, > the future of the master/subagent architecture is AgentX, isn't it ? There have been a number of extensible agent architectures that preceded AgentX - DPI (1.0 and 2.0), SMUX, eSNMP, and EMANATE are examples. AgentX was designed as a suitable replacement for these predecessors. > On Linux, I found net-snmp which implements AgentX, but I have > difficulties to find out what happens on other unix. > HPUX seems to use SNMP Research's EMANATE agent, but it is not clear > if it includes the support of AgentX in the OEM version installed on > HPUX 11. I think AgentX support under EMANATE is an add-on agent adapter. Best information would come from HP re HPUX11 or SRI re their add-on. As Rob points out, The native SNMP agent shipped with HP/Compaq's Tru64 UNIX and VMS support AgentX. There is a list of known AgentX implementations on the AgentX web page. Additions and changes to to the implementation list can be requested via the site webmaster. > > So, does anyone know if the AgentX protocol is natively available on > HPUX, Solaris or AIX ? I do not want to replace the native agent > supplied by these unix, but just find a way of extending it -- > preferably the same on all systems ! Yes, this is the goal of AgentX. There is a web page for AgentX at http://www.scguild.com/agentx/. You might also want to check in on the AgentX email list at agentx@ietf.org (subscribe at agentx-request@ietf.org) > > Thanks a lot, > Thibault Regards, Mark From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Nov 20 13:05:25 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA16276 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMtAz-0005EE-VJ for agentx-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:09 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAKI59Lx020092 for agentx-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:09 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMtAz-0005Dz-Qz for agentx-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:09 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA16223 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMtAw-0007Kw-00 for agentx-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:07 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMtAw-0007Kn-00 for agentx-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:06 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMtAt-0005Bq-EA; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMpWm-00044z-4G for agentx@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:24 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA04903 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMpWk-0003Rg-00 for agentx@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:22 -0500 Received: from pcls2.std.com ([192.74.137.142] helo=TheWorld.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMpWj-0003Rc-00 for agentx@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:22 -0500 Received: from ieee.org (206-15-136-43.dialup.ziplink.net [206.15.136.43]) by TheWorld.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAKEB3Zh005425 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBCF69A.6010005@ieee.org> From: Mark Ellison User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp CC: agentx@ietf.org References: <3b2eb716.0311190256.347492a6@posting.google.com> <3FBBAFED.1050803@gte.net> In-Reply-To: <3FBBAFED.1050803@gte.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Agentx] Re: AgentX availability Sender: agentx-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: agentx-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: agentx@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: SNMP Agent Extensibility List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:15:06 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rob, > I'd also love to hear other opinions or options re: the use, current > state and future of AgentX. AgentX would benefit from a few things. I can think of: (1) A standard API for manipulating, sending and receiving messages. This would allow subagents to link to native shared libraries implementing the AgentX messaging mechanisms. (2) A standard isAccessAllowed() abstract service. This would allow subagents to check the SNMPv3 credentials for the principal of the request while processing it. Useful applications appear in DISMAN and RMON MIBs. (3) A standard means to encrypt AgentX payloads, and a means to authenticate the subagent whenever a subagent connection is established. This would extend security to subagents using TCP and not co-resident with their master. I am certain there are more items that can be added to this list and seek to encourage ideas and participation from interested parties. Regards, Mark From agentx-admin@ietf.org Thu Nov 20 13:53:07 2003 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA16235 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMtAt-0005Bq-EA; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:05:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AMpWm-00044z-4G for agentx@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:24 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA04903 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMpWk-0003Rg-00 for agentx@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:22 -0500 Received: from pcls2.std.com ([192.74.137.142] helo=TheWorld.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AMpWj-0003Rc-00 for agentx@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:22 -0500 Received: from ieee.org (206-15-136-43.dialup.ziplink.net [206.15.136.43]) by TheWorld.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAKEB3Zh005425 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:11:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBCF69A.6010005@ieee.org> From: Mark Ellison User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.protocols.snmp CC: agentx@ietf.org References: <3b2eb716.0311190256.347492a6@posting.google.com> <3FBBAFED.1050803@gte.net> In-Reply-To: <3FBBAFED.1050803@gte.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Agentx] Re: AgentX availability Sender: agentx-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: agentx-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: agentx@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: SNMP Agent Extensibility List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:15:06 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rob, > I'd also love to hear other opinions or options re: the use, current > state and future of AgentX. AgentX would benefit from a few things. I can think of: (1) A standard API for manipulating, sending and receiving messages. This would allow subagents to link to native shared libraries implementing the AgentX messaging mechanisms. (2) A standard isAccessAllowed() abstract service. This would allow subagents to check the SNMPv3 credentials for the principal of the request while processing it. Useful applications appear in DISMAN and RMON MIBs. (3) A standard means to encrypt AgentX payloads, and a means to authenticate the subagent whenever a subagent connection is established. This would extend security to subagents using TCP and not co-resident with their master. I am certain there are more items that can be added to this list and seek to encourage ideas and participation from interested parties. Regards, Mark