From nobody Mon Feb 8 17:38:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dbound@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dbound@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCF21B3F18 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 17:38:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GdY4DEu-sGeP for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 17:38:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.yitter.info (mx2.yitter.info [50.116.54.116]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6605B1B3F15 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 17:38:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1216810985 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 01:38:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at crankycanuck.ca Received: from mx2.yitter.info ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.yitter.info [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rJAivZWIcpyE for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 01:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.yitter.info (unknown [107.72.98.107]) by mx2.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1289A10982 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 01:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 20:38:00 -0500 From: Andrew Sullivan To: dbound@ietf.org Message-ID: <20160209013800.GC52082@mx2.yitter.info> References: <20160129024834.48514.qmail@ary.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160129024834.48514.qmail@ary.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dbound] No meeting planned for IETF 95 X-BeenThere: dbound@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: DNS tree bounds List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 01:38:07 -0000 On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 02:48:34AM -0000, John Levine wrote: > At this point we have three proposals: > > draft-deccio-dbound-organizational-domain-policy-01.txt > draft-levine-orgboundary-04.txt > draft-yao-dbound-dns-solution-02.txt Actually, I thought we had four, since JeffH and I had one to. We let it expire because the WG was supposed to be working on the use case document. I confess that I dislike all the above three, for reasons I've outlined previously; among them, > Is it OK that Deccio uses a new _odup top level domain? No > Does Levine need to address some of the more complex cases that Deccio does? Yes > Is it useful that Yao's design can refer queries to PSL like text files? No. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com From nobody Thu Feb 18 15:02:19 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dbound@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dbound@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25AF51B3035 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:02:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7qy4GBXBS68u for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.yitter.info (mx2.yitter.info [IPv6:2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:cfab]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD6C1B2FF2 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DA110751 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 23:02:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at crankycanuck.ca Received: from mx2.yitter.info ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.yitter.info [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KjyzfOEfZi11 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 23:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.yitter.info (c-73-142-157-135.hsd1.nh.comcast.net [73.142.157.135]) by mx2.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 010571067C for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 23:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 18:02:13 -0500 From: Andrew Sullivan To: dbound@ietf.org Message-ID: <20160218230213.GR100@mx2.yitter.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Archived-At: Subject: [dbound] 2 draft updates X-BeenThere: dbound@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: DNS tree bounds List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 23:02:18 -0000 Hi all, I just uploaded a minor change to draft-sullivan-dbound-problem-statement. This reflects the inherit-or-not discussion we had in Yokohama. The discussion may not yet be clear enough, and I confess I hate the terms, but we didn't come up with anything better. While doing that, two of us have undertaken a substantial work-over of draft-sullivan-dbound-problem-statement in order to make it somewhat clearer. I continue to believe that approach solves more of the problem I at least think we have than do other approaches. In particular, I remain unconvinced that a simple public/private distinction is going to do all the work we need. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sullivan-dbound-problem-statement/ and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sullivan-domain-policy-authority/ Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com From nobody Sun Feb 21 15:55:22 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dbound@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dbound@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C1F1ACDD5 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:55:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id geuN22pQ8dpG for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.yitter.info (mx2.yitter.info [IPv6:2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:cfab]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261EF1ACDD2 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AC010752 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:55:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at crankycanuck.ca Received: from mx2.yitter.info ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.yitter.info [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xyxV8F60TyGE for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.yitter.info (c-73-142-157-135.hsd1.nh.comcast.net [73.142.157.135]) by mx2.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E05241067C for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:55:15 -0500 From: Andrew Sullivan To: dbound@ietf.org Message-ID: <20160221235515.GP5213@mx2.yitter.info> References: <20160218230213.GR100@mx2.yitter.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160218230213.GR100@mx2.yitter.info> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dbound] 2 draft updates X-BeenThere: dbound@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: DNS tree bounds List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:55:20 -0000 Hi, On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 06:02:13PM -0500, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > > While doing that, two of us have undertaken a substantial work-over of > draft-sullivan-dbound-problem-statement I meant, of course, draft-sullivan-domain-policy-authority. Sorry. A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com