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[79.108.125.160]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id c187sm1748565wmd.23.2020.12.01.13.40.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 01 Dec 2020 13:40:44 -0800 (PST) To: Adam Roach , Ben Campbell , "dispatch@ietf.org" Cc: Alex Gouaillard References: <085505e3-9899-f817-b6df-db8022d52e26@gmail.com> <0E35658D-D768-4DF2-BF0F-95D6F5889B4F@nostrum.com> <06c5e46a-49b4-8e04-78ed-4f343268ce7a@nostrum.com> From: Sergio Garcia Murillo Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 22:40:46 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <06c5e46a-49b4-8e04-78ed-4f343268ce7a@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [dispatch] WHIP - WebRTC HTTP ingestion protocol X-BeenThere: dispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DISPATCH Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 21:40:48 -0000 On 30/11/2020 18:56, Adam Roach wrote: > > Having read through the proposal and watched the corresponding segment > of the DISPATCH meeting from two weeks ago, I think that having > something like this standardized would be very useful, both for the > handful of broadcasting tools that exist as well as for the various > WebRTC broadcast networks that are being deployed. > > So I definitely think we should pursue this work in the IETF. > > It's a little less clear to me whether we want to slot this into > something like MMUSIC or to create a short-lived working group. I'm > leaning towards the second, for a couple of reasons. First, I found > Ted's comments at the DISPATCH meeting to be kind of illuminating as > far as the kinds of additional work that might be necessary (and I > have my own list of things that might need some refinement, like > negotiation of authentication mechanisms); and that nudges the effort > into a "maybe a little larger than just one work item in a > long-standing working group." More importantly, this work straddles > the real-time media and web disciplines, and I'd like to make sure we > have people from the latter group putting eyes on it. I seriously > doubt we can get HTTP experts showing up at MMUSIC, but there's at > least a fair chance that we might get them interested in a > lower-volume mailing list such as a dedicated WHIP WG. > > I think this mirrors, for the most part, the tentative conclusion that > came out of the DISPATCH discussion earlier this month. If we decide > to take this path of creating a short-lived WG, I'm happy to help > craft a charter and plan to be actively involved in the technical work. > I agree with you, a dedicated small/short lived WG would be the best way to have right people involved and focused. Also, your collaboration is really appreciated, looking forward to start working on it. 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I'm leaning towards t= he second, for a couple of reasons. First, I found Ted's comments at the DIS= PATCH meeting to be kind of illuminating as far as the kinds of additional w= ork that might be necessary (and I have my own list of things that might nee= d some refinement, like negotiation of authentication mechanisms); and that n= udges the effort into a "maybe a little larger than just one work item in a l= ong-standing working group." More importantly, this work straddles the real-= time media and web disciplines, and I'd like to make sure we have people fro= m the latter group putting eyes on it. I seriously doubt we can get HTTP exp= erts showing up at MMUSIC, but there's at least a fair chance that we might g= et them interested in a lower-volume mailing list such as a dedicated WHIP W= G. >>=20 >> I think this mirrors, for the most part, the tentative conclusion that ca= me out of the DISPATCH discussion earlier this month. If we decide to take t= his path of creating a short-lived WG, I'm happy to help craft a charter and= plan to be actively involved in the technical work. >>=20 > I agree with you, a dedicated small/short lived WG would be the best way t= o have right people involved and focused. Also, your collaboration is really= appreciated, looking forward to start working on it. >=20 > Best regards >=20 > Sergio >=20 > _______________________________________________ > dispatch mailing list > dispatch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch From nobody Mon Dec 7 15:40:50 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC0C3A0CB5; Mon, 7 Dec 2020 15:40:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9qggJsIAD-bZ; Mon, 7 Dec 2020 15:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm1-x336.google.com (mail-wm1-x336.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::336]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 639BF3A0C82; Mon, 7 Dec 2020 15:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wm1-x336.google.com with SMTP id e25so837569wme.0; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 15:40:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:subject:to:cc:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=7Fg5YlMx/ROruVBiDt1JXejYb/fPJkbTAUThRdTL2to=; b=JzzUrS8muU/tozr8ddLRAdr0DXOLM+xSPIcAaSxH2yHaXd+rimhFkBkvaGncY/LEp5 S8ZNVAR7GmcU/sjPfAkvnZPtjUhpyYcSEhQhbxymajDyIjvI9tcdy0dahSOX3m9Dik5Q Qxsj/XmiKrtZ9R8RIemomFxn9B+w2HnBiFV2AHmvdpmmGQn1EL5n3bp6SWw0BNfwIrkZ 2qM8V0BCU/htsPdHjXyUpWD7fu3bo2PXsRv3HY40KaMtGDtDCN6kzAAQl8MoIj4ZKje/ Il9863yPUa+y3d9z5b6QCUnzWQVNZ9ANpcmYFgGBajH/f9ZDxWF2LMhDSBGvko1y1eO+ tUvQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:subject:to:cc:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=7Fg5YlMx/ROruVBiDt1JXejYb/fPJkbTAUThRdTL2to=; b=boRWPXI0BmEl/J7hdvUCBcT3QisbzWZN7DTGDQ+4RVzApefuR5SdLVFMO9tconNr6L m5hGGz8y4VRC670LXzKPgLiKRN8AWU+Jtcqza5ZwMnBPMmduxzm3wSZyyZaPjtUwa0UA le84V+AxpW5TJbXMg2OY9pchxBOJoAg8eZ+dOpvaR5Xcq8OpkJJNV7RubSPENXouLY+Q FAXgNrN0KpeUlWLo153URqcBMJAHYyoAn+txzVFED9ML5DgYrB+nqbbwKZvTkUMcPUjX e9woQ8DWrs+gYpgqUe7/D+zROyrITWwgTJfP4juLhvZOQ/FSfdHDSVdXP33UrZ+Xny5g wHzw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531zf3PawIfUG5/Z8XAoehxzVekZkNVJvJqR5rbtB6lWo98Tbn3/ +JZlgE3G04s2m3EYPAiIPhqdt/dP/Nau/w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxr1H1hgIk+jZkDnPpJ2p0m/gzhPT+JEyMEtvGba8Iv0FpNypOzI9pSdDcT6/pdZhJtOqFKAw== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c2e8:: with SMTP id e8mr1117488wmk.103.1607384445546; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 15:40:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (79.108.125.160.dyn.user.ono.com. [79.108.125.160]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id n14sm927090wmi.1.2020.12.07.15.40.44 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Dec 2020 15:40:45 -0800 (PST) From: Sergio Garcia Murillo To: "dispatch@ietf.org" Cc: Adam Roach , Alexandre GOUAILLARD , ietf-http-wg@w3.org, mmusic@ietf.org, "rtcweb@ietf.org" Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 00:40:52 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [dispatch] WebRTC, Ingest Signaling over HTTPS (WISH) WG charter X-BeenThere: dispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DISPATCH Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2020 23:40:49 -0000 Hi all, According to the discussions on the last Dispatch meeting and the feedback received on the mailing list,  Adam and I have prepared a charter for the working group that will take over the WHIP proposal. The WISH working group is chartered to specify a simple, extensible, HTTPS-based signaling protocol to establish one-way WebRTC-based audiovisual sessions between broadcasting tools and real-time media broadcast networks. The product of this working group will be a specification for a simple, extensible, HTTPS-based signaling protocol to establish one-way WebRTC-based audiovisual sessions between broadcasting tools and real-time media broadcast networks. This working group will use existing HTTPS, WebRTC, and SDP mechanisms to the extent possible. While no extensions to those core protocols is expected, the working group may consider such extensions if they are necessary to meet the requirements of broadcasting tools and networks. Any such work will be coordinated with the HTTPBIS and/or MMUSIC working groups, as appropriate. The mailing list is wish@ietf.org , which can be subscribed to here: Best regards Sergio From nobody Tue Dec 8 04:55:31 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dispatch@ietf.org Delivered-To: dispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420583A0CFE; Tue, 8 Dec 2020 04:55:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: dispatch@ietf.org, barryleiba@computer.org, dispatch-chairs@ietf.org, kirsty.p@ncsc.gov.uk X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.23.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <160743212880.13435.288309596835609016@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 04:55:29 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [dispatch] dispatch - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 110 X-BeenThere: dispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: DISPATCH Working Group Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 12:55:29 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Kirsty P, a Chair of the dispatch working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Dispatch Area Name: Applications and Real-Time Area Session Requester: Kirsty P Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 100 Conflicts to Avoid: Chair Conflict: rum stir sipcore mmusic ecrit avtcore cfrg quic httpbis add Technology Overlap: perc cellar dmarc jmap uta rmcat extra core opsarea tsvarea tsvwg tram secdispatch emailcore asdf sframe jsonpath webtrans regext cbor calext httpapi Key Participant Conflict: acme cose dprive lamps tls mls People who must be present: Barry Leiba Murray Kucherawy Patrick McManus Kirsty P Resources Requested: Special Requests: Please schedule in the 1st slot Monday morning, and list as coupled with ARTAREA. Please avoid conflicts with other ART area WGs and BoFs, other area meetings, other dispatch groups, and BoFs. ---------------------------------------------------------