From jari.arkko@piuha.net Sun Nov 1 01:42:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDB83A685A for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 01:42:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.591 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.591 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ChKs5p3Oexza for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 01:42:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EE23A6885 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 01:42:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADAFAD4936; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:42:30 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at piuha.net Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QKLWXRQxaPa2; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:42:29 +0200 (EET) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (unknown [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3A9D492B; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:42:29 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4AED5804.8090203@piuha.net> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:42:28 +0200 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olafur Gudmundsson References: <200910272236.n9RMap0b089911@stora.ogud.com> In-Reply-To: <200910272236.n9RMap0b089911@stora.ogud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dns Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:42:14 -0000 I would like to meet. We mentioned Thursday as a possible evening to have the IP directorate dinner, but this has not been decided yet. Are there other days available in your calender? I'm sorry, I don't know what day soccer is on :-) Jari Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: > > Are we planning Thursday evening or some other time? > > I need to make sure this does not conflict with a high priority BOF > (soccer) > > Olafur > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dns-dir mailing list > dns-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir > From peter@denic.de Sun Nov 1 13:49:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1C63A6902 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 13:49:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NHza7PiHnkRc for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 13:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from office.denic.de (gw-office.denic.de [81.91.160.182]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C5A3A68C1 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 13:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from x27.adm.denic.de ([10.122.64.128]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1N4iJD-0006xy-PY; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:49:59 +0100 Received: from localhost by x27.adm.denic.de with local id 1N4iJA-00078O-Ly; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:49:56 +0100 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 22:49:56 +0100 From: Peter Koch To: Jari Arkko Message-ID: <20091101214956.GB19608@x27.adm.denic.de> References: <200910272236.n9RMap0b089911@stora.ogud.com> <4AED5804.8090203@piuha.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AED5804.8090203@piuha.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: Peter Koch Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:49:43 -0000 On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 11:42:28AM +0200, Jari Arkko wrote: > I would like to meet. We mentioned Thursday as a possible evening to > have the IP directorate dinner, but this has not been decided yet. Are > there other days available in your calender? I'm sorry, I don't know > what day soccer is on :-) We've previously tentatively scheduled Thursday dinner for the directorate, but no date or venue fixed yet. Could do Wednesday, too, as per today. And there will be no conf call tomorrow, Monday, due to the IETF meeting the week after. -Peter From dromasca@avaya.com Mon Nov 2 03:44:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2BBB3A6A0C for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 03:44:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.453 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.453 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.146, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kZD9k9h9nAVL for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 03:44:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B783A6A07 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 03:44:09 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,666,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="188867397" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2009 06:44:29 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.12]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2009 06:44:28 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:44:28 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20091101214956.GB19608@x27.adm.denic.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? Thread-Index: AcpbPVIQ/cnbTI5UQ4u/03SiZxsSzwAdEPPQ References: <200910272236.n9RMap0b089911@stora.ogud.com><4AED5804.8090203@piuha.net> <20091101214956.GB19608@x27.adm.denic.de> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Peter Koch" , "Jari Arkko" Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:44:10 -0000 Same as Jari, I am also booked on Thursday at the IP directorate dinner. Wednesday should be OK if we start soon after the plenary and I have some time left at the end to drop by the WG chairs beer event.=20 Dan =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Koch > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:50 PM > To: Jari Arkko > Cc: IETF DNS Directorate > Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? >=20 > On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 11:42:28AM +0200, Jari Arkko wrote: > > I would like to meet. We mentioned Thursday as a possible=20 > evening to=20 > > have the IP directorate dinner, but this has not been=20 > decided yet. Are=20 > > there other days available in your calender? I'm sorry, I=20 > don't know=20 > > what day soccer is on :-) >=20 > We've previously tentatively scheduled Thursday dinner for=20 > the directorate, but no date or venue fixed yet. Could do=20 > Wednesday, too, as per today. > And there will be no conf call tomorrow, Monday, due to the=20 > IETF meeting the week after. >=20 > -Peter > _______________________________________________ > dns-dir mailing list > dns-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir >=20 From olaf@NLnetLabs.nl Mon Nov 2 04:13:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837DF3A68F3 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 04:13:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1bhW4Bl+rIBL for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 04:13:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from open.nlnetlabs.nl (open.nlnetlabs.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1::1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7C03A68F0 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 04:13:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1:226:b0ff:fee2:a770] ([IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1:226:b0ff:fee2:a770]) (authenticated bits=0) by open.nlnetlabs.nl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA2CDQ9V037847 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:13:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olaf@NLnetLabs.nl) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Olaf Kolkman In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:13:26 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <200910272236.n9RMap0b089911@stora.ogud.com><4AED5804.8090203@piuha.net> <20091101214956.GB19608@x27.adm.denic.de> To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (open.nlnetlabs.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1::53]); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:13:27 +0100 (CET) Cc: Peter Koch , IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:13:11 -0000 On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Same as Jari, I am also booked on Thursday at the IP directorate > dinner. > Wednesday should be OK if we start soon after the plenary and I have > some time left at the end to drop by the WG chairs beer event. There is the smard-grid BAR BOF on Wednesday, isn't there? --Olaf ________________________________________________________ Olaf M. Kolkman NLnet Labs Science Park 140, http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/ 1098 XG Amsterdam From dromasca@avaya.com Mon Nov 2 04:19:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82713A68F1 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 04:19:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.459 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.459 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.140, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DSjAvQkahrXQ for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 04:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DA33A68CE for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 04:19:19 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,666,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="162009482" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2009 07:19:38 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.12]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2009 07:19:36 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:19:27 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? Thread-Index: Acpbte1YMHaIhxeXSAuwRZIJQJkfLQAALwDQ References: <200910272236.n9RMap0b089911@stora.ogud.com><4AED5804.8090203@piuha.net> <20091101214956.GB19608@x27.adm.denic.de> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Olaf Kolkman" Cc: Peter Koch , IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:19:21 -0000 I am afraid that you are right .... =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Olaf Kolkman [mailto:olaf@NLnetLabs.nl]=20 > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:13 PM > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Cc: Peter Koch; Jari Arkko; IETF DNS Directorate > Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? >=20 >=20 > On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: >=20 > > Same as Jari, I am also booked on Thursday at the IP directorate=20 > > dinner. > > Wednesday should be OK if we start soon after the plenary=20 > and I have=20 > > some time left at the end to drop by the WG chairs beer event. >=20 >=20 >=20 > There is the smard-grid BAR BOF on Wednesday, isn't there? >=20 > --Olaf > ________________________________________________________ >=20 > Olaf M. Kolkman NLnet Labs > Science Park 140, > http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/ 1098 XG Amsterdam >=20 >=20 From pk@DENIC.DE Mon Nov 2 04:29:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13503A68F3 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 04:29:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J4Hqbxe6PfFn for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 04:29:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from office.denic.de (gw-office.denic.de [81.91.160.182]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056DE3A68F2 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 04:29:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown.office.denic.de ([10.122.65.174]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1N4w2Q-0003YK-FO; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:29:34 +0100 Received: by unknown.office.denic.de (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4B00054E2A7; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:29:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:29:33 +0100 From: Peter Koch To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" Message-ID: <20091102122933.GF1606@unknown.office.denic.de> Mail-Followup-To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , IETF DNS Directorate References: <20091101214956.GB19608@x27.adm.denic.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:29:18 -0000 On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:19:27PM +0100, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > I am afraid that you are right .... > > There is the smard-grid BAR BOF on Wednesday, isn't there? so, with Wed and Thu gone and the social on Tue, I'll skip Fri, which leaves us with either Sunday or Monday evening or we'll find another working slot during the week. Since I believe the number of available slots for a side meeting room is limited, I'd ask the secretariat for a list of available slots befroe setting up a 'doodle'. OK? -Peter From dromasca@avaya.com Mon Nov 2 04:38:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25763A68E6 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 04:38:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.461 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.461 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.138, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zf9TW5fGiy4c for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 04:38:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4B43A6884 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 04:38:39 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,666,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="162010961" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2009 07:38:57 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.12]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2009 07:38:56 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:38:42 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20091102122933.GF1606@unknown.office.denic.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? Thread-Index: AcpbuCUtA1PXRpA4RM6KeBC80HId2AAAS20Q References: <20091101214956.GB19608@x27.adm.denic.de> <20091102122933.GF1606@unknown.office.denic.de> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Peter Koch" Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:38:41 -0000 Sounds good - doodle would also help us know how many people will be in Hiroshima at all.=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Koch [mailto:pk@DENIC.DE]=20 > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:30 PM > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Cc: IETF DNS Directorate > Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? >=20 > On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:19:27PM +0100, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > > I am afraid that you are right .... =20 >=20 > > > There is the smard-grid BAR BOF on Wednesday, isn't there? >=20 > so, with Wed and Thu gone and the social on Tue, I'll skip=20 > Fri, which leaves us with either Sunday or Monday evening or=20 > we'll find another working slot during the week. Since I=20 > believe the number of available slots for a side meeting room=20 > is limited, I'd ask the secretariat for a list of available=20 > slots befroe setting up a 'doodle'. OK? >=20 > -Peter >=20 From olaf@NLnetLabs.nl Mon Nov 2 05:21:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00603A68F0 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 05:21:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.933 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.933 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.333, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BTBpKtxK9tnS for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 05:21:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from open.nlnetlabs.nl (open.nlnetlabs.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1::1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8AA3A6898 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 05:21:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1:226:b0ff:fee2:a770] ([IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1:226:b0ff:fee2:a770]) (authenticated bits=0) by open.nlnetlabs.nl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA2DMBpt071048 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:22:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olaf@NLnetLabs.nl) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed From: Olaf Kolkman In-Reply-To: <20091102122933.GF1606@unknown.office.denic.de> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:22:10 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <24C438BF-3282-4D68-AB76-2BF5E89C2920@NLnetLabs.nl> References: <20091101214956.GB19608@x27.adm.denic.de> <20091102122933.GF1606@unknown.office.denic.de> To: Peter Koch X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (open.nlnetlabs.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1::53]); Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:22:11 +0100 (CET) Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:21:56 -0000 On Nov 2, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Peter Koch wrote: > On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:19:27PM +0100, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: >> I am afraid that you are right .... > >>> There is the smard-grid BAR BOF on Wednesday, isn't there? > > so, with Wed and Thu gone and the social on Tue, I'll skip Fri, which > leaves us with either Sunday or Monday evening or we'll find another > working slot during the week. Since I believe the number of available > slots for a side meeting room is limited, I'd ask the secretariat for > a list of available slots befroe setting up a 'doodle'. OK? > Seem all my evenings are booked. --Olaf ________________________________________________________ Olaf M. Kolkman NLnet Labs Science Park 140, http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/ 1098 XG Amsterdam From liman@autonomica.se Fri Nov 6 04:25:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2313A69AA for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:25:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.39 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.39 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WUjmLNiCBwsO for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from nic.cafax.se (nic.cafax.se [192.71.228.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AAD3A69B9 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.liman.net (2-1-3-18a.spa.sth.bostream.se [82.182.146.229]) by nic.cafax.se (8.13.7/8.12.11) with ESMTP id nA6CPkbf029966 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:25:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from zaptop.autonomica.net (zaptop.autonomica.net [77.72.226.71]) by home.liman.net (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA6CPjob004141 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:25:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from zaptop.autonomica.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by zaptop.autonomica.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA6CPdlv017044 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:25:39 +0100 (CET) To: IETF DNS Directorate References: <20091101214956.GB19608@x27.adm.denic.de> <20091102122933.GF1606@unknown.office.denic.de> <24C438BF-3282-4D68-AB76-2BF5E89C2920@NLnetLabs.nl> From: Lars-Johan Liman Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:13:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <24C438BF-3282-4D68-AB76-2BF5E89C2920@NLnetLabs.nl> (Olaf Kolkman's message of "Mon\, 2 Nov 2009 14\:22\:10 +0100") Message-ID: <22eiogy6j1.fsf@zaptop.autonomica.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:25:26 -0000 > Seem all my evenings are booked. "Limited staff resources" at Autonomica led to a re-shuffle of our conference attendance, so I won't be coming to Hiroshima, as I had originally planned. (I was the "luck winner" (... NOT!) of having to go to the ICANN meeting in Seoul last week instead ... Not much fun there ... :-( ) See you next time! Cheers, /Liman From peter@denic.de Sun Nov 8 07:58:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1824F3A684D for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:58:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U2gKpKD2gUHF for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:58:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from office.denic.de (gw-office.denic.de [81.91.160.182]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484243A6816 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:58:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from x27.adm.denic.de ([10.122.64.128]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1N7AAJ-0008NM-MI; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:58:55 +0100 Received: from localhost by x27.adm.denic.de with local id 1N7AAG-0002KS-IF; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:58:52 +0100 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:58:52 +0100 From: Peter Koch To: IETF DNS Directorate Message-ID: <20091108155852.GC8357@x27.adm.denic.de> References: <20091101214956.GB19608@x27.adm.denic.de> <20091102122933.GF1606@unknown.office.denic.de> <24C438BF-3282-4D68-AB76-2BF5E89C2920@NLnetLabs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <24C438BF-3282-4D68-AB76-2BF5E89C2920@NLnetLabs.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: Peter Koch Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Meeting in Hiroshima ? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:58:32 -0000 Since we seem to have lesser presence than usual, can those of you who are actually in Hiroshima pls let me know (in personal mail) by Monday noon? This is not a blanket ACK to any following time slot proposal, just so that I'd know how many sign ups to expect. Thanks a lot, Peter From dromasca@avaya.com Fri Nov 13 05:20:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02103A6A66; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:20:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.506 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.506 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.093, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JLUW2bBLpksq; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3213A67E1; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:20:29 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,736,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="163176913" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2009 08:20:57 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.16]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2009 08:20:56 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:20:40 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for November 19, 2009 Telechat thread-index: Acpj/kuv0luLOSvDRmihmkYlJ+mLJgAZHk8A From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: , , , "IETF DNS Directorate" Subject: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for November 19, 2009 Telechat X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:20:35 -0000 Please find below the preliminary agenda of the 11/19 IESG telechat. Please send me your questions, comments and concerns before 11/18 COB.=20 Thanks and Regards, Dan =20 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-syslog-sign-28.txt Signed syslog Messages (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 8=20 Token: Pasi Eronen o draft-ietf-mboned-rfc3171bis-07.txt IANA Guidelines for IPv4 Multicast Address Assignments (BCP) - 2 of 8 Token: Ron Bonica o draft-ietf-6man-overlap-fragment-03.txt Handling of overlapping IPv6 fragments (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 8=20 Note: Brian Haberman (brian@innovationslab.net) is the document shepherd.=20 Token: Jari Arkko o draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-l3vpn-03.txt Support for RSVP in Layer 3 VPNs (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 8=20 Token: Magnus Westerlund o draft-ietf-pkix-authorityclearanceconstraints-03.txt Clearance Attribute and Authority Clearance Constraints Certificate=20 Extension (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 8=20 Token: Tim Polk o draft-ietf-dna-simple-11.txt Simple procedures for Detecting Network Attachment in IPv6 (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 8=20 Note: (no document shepherd)=20 Token: Jari Arkko o draft-ietf-mmusic-connectivity-precon-06.txt Connectivity Preconditions for Session Description Protocol Media Streams=20 (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 8=20 Note: Please note sec-dir review comments were addressed in RFC Ed Note..=20 Document Shepherd: Jean-Francois Mule (jf.mule@cablelabs.com)=20 Token: Cullen Jennings o draft-ietf-forces-sctptml-06.txt SCTP based TML (Transport Mapping Layer) for ForCES protocol (Proposed =20 Standard) - 8 of 8=20 Note: The document shepherd has been changed to Joel Halpern=20 (jmh@joelhalpern.com).=20 Token: Ross Callon 2.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-mipshop-pfmipv6-09.txt Fast Handovers for Proxy Mobile IPv6 (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2=20 Note: Vijay Devarapalli (vijay@wichorus.com) is the document shepherd. =20 Token: Jari Arkko o draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast-bgp-08.txt BGP Encodings and Procedures for Multicast in MPLS/BGP IP VPNs (Proposed=20 Standard) - 2 of 2=20 Token: Ross Callon 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item NONE 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-graceful-shutdown-12.txt Graceful Shutdown in MPLS and Generalized MPLS Traffic Engineering Networks=20 (Informational) - 1 of 3=20 Note: Lou Berger (lberger@labn.net) is the document shepherd.=20 Token: Adrian Farrel o draft-ietf-bmwg-ipsec-term-12.txt Terminology for Benchmarking IPsec Devices (Informational) - 2 of 3=20 Note: Al Morton (acmorton@att.com) is the document shepherd.=20 Token: Ron Bonica o draft-ietf-bmwg-ipsec-meth-05.txt Methodology for Benchmarking IPsec Devices (Informational) - 3 of 3=20 Note: Al Morton (acmorton@att.com) is the document shepherd.=20 Token: Ron Bonica 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.2.1 New Item o draft-turner-deviceowner-attribute-02.txt Device Owner Attribute (Informational) - 1 of 4=20 Token: Tim Polk o draft-turner-clearancesponsor-attribute-02.txt Clearance Sponsor Attribute (Informational) - 2 of 4=20 Token: Tim Polk o draft-carpenter-renum-needs-work-04.txt Renumbering still needs work (Informational) - 3 of 4=20 Token: Dan Romascanu o draft-melnikov-sasl-scram-ldap-04.txt LDAP schema for storing SCRAM secrets (Informational) - 4 of 4=20 Token: Pasi Eronen 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor The IESG will use RFC 3932 responses: 1) The IESG has not found any conflict between this document and IETF work; 2) The IESG thinks that this work is related to IETF work done in WG , but this does not prevent publishing; 3) The IESG thinks that publication is harmful to work in WG and recommends not publishing at this time; 4) The IESG thinks that this document violates the IETF procedures for and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval; 5) The IESG thinks that this document extends an IETF protocol in a way that requires IETF review and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval. The document shepherd must propose one of these responses in the Data Tracker note and supply complete text in the IESG Note portion of the write-up. The Area Director ballot positions indicate consensus with the response proposed by the document shepherd. Other matters may be recorded in comments, and the comments will be passed on to the RFC Editor as community review of the document. 3.3.1 New Item NONE 3.3.2 Returning Item o draft-levy-sip-diversion-10.txt Diversion Indication in SIP (Historic) - 1 of 1=20 Token: Robert Sparks 3.3.3 For Action o draft-nsri-aria-02.txt A Description of the ARIA Encryption Algorithm (Informational) - 1 of 1=20 Token: Russ Housley 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o HTTP State Management Mechanism (http-state) - 1 of 1 Token: Lisa Dusseault 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Internet Area Working Group (intareawg) - 1 of 1 Token: Jari Arkko 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval o Handover Keying (hokey) - 1 of 1 Token: Tim Polk From ogud@ogud.com Fri Nov 13 14:27:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772523A69A6 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:27:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.451 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.451 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.148, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VK1W5lMnwoA3 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCFD3A67AA for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from Puki.ogud.com (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nADMRqR1012782 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:27:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) Message-Id: <200911132227.nADMRqR1012782@stora.ogud.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:26:04 -0500 To: "IETF DNS Directorate" From: Olafur Gudmundsson In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: Re: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for November 19, 2009 Telechat X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:27:24 -0000 At 08:20 13/11/2009, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: >Please find below the preliminary agenda of the 11/19 IESG telechat. >Please send me your questions, comments and concerns before 11/18 COB. > >Thanks and Regards, > >Dan > > o draft-carpenter-renum-needs-work-04.txt > Renumbering still needs work (Informational) - 3 of 4 > Token: Dan Romascanu This one is in the DNS EW database. Olafur From dromasca@avaya.com Mon Nov 16 02:48:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEF428C12C for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:48:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mOOLpw3xxHmg for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com (nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.12.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8D928C12B for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:48:23 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,750,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="180375122" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2009 05:48:22 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.15]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2009 05:48:21 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:48:18 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200911132227.nADMRqR1012782@stora.ogud.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for November 19, 2009 Telechat Thread-Index: AcpksI1WmgPGO8PPR+OuLKH7amp7nAB+bfUg References: <200911132227.nADMRqR1012782@stora.ogud.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Olafur Gudmundsson" , "IETF DNS Directorate" Subject: Re: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for November 19, 2009 Telechat X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:48:27 -0000 Any concern with it?=20 Dan =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Olafur Gudmundsson > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:26 AM > To: IETF DNS Directorate > Subject: Re: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for=20 > November 19, 2009 Telechat >=20 > At 08:20 13/11/2009, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > >Please find below the preliminary agenda of the 11/19 IESG telechat. > >Please send me your questions, comments and concerns before=20 > 11/18 COB. > > > >Thanks and Regards, > > > >Dan > > > > o draft-carpenter-renum-needs-work-04.txt > > Renumbering still needs work (Informational) - 3 of 4 > > Token: Dan Romascanu >=20 >=20 > This one is in the DNS EW database. >=20 > Olafur >=20 > _______________________________________________ > dns-dir mailing list > dns-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir >=20 From ogud@ogud.com Mon Nov 16 07:10:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11EB3A6AA1 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:10:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QHNu+e3hWziA for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AAB3A6AB4 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from Puki.ogud.com (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAGFA9JN044310; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:10:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) Message-Id: <200911161510.nAGFA9JN044310@stora.ogud.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:10:05 -0500 To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , "IETF DNS Directorate" From: Olafur Gudmundsson In-Reply-To: References: <200911132227.nADMRqR1012782@stora.ogud.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 66.92.146.20 Subject: Re: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for November 19, 2009 Telechat X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:10:16 -0000 Not from the DNS protocol point of view, I like that this document is pushing for more use of Secure Dynamic Updates. Operational people may have some issues with this document as to how renumbering in described from the DNS perspective but I think it all broils down to API's for DNS lookups are defective, and we need better interfaces that include TTL values are first class return value. Olafur At 05:48 16/11/2009, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: >Any concern with it? > >Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org > > [mailto:dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Olafur Gudmundsson > > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:26 AM > > To: IETF DNS Directorate > > Subject: Re: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for > > November 19, 2009 Telechat > > > > At 08:20 13/11/2009, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > > >Please find below the preliminary agenda of the 11/19 IESG telechat. > > >Please send me your questions, comments and concerns before > > 11/18 COB. > > > > > >Thanks and Regards, > > > > > >Dan > > > > > > o draft-carpenter-renum-needs-work-04.txt > > > Renumbering still needs work (Informational) - 3 of 4 > > > Token: Dan Romascanu > > > > > > This one is in the DNS EW database. > > > > Olafur > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dns-dir mailing list > > dns-dir@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir > > From dromasca@avaya.com Sun Nov 29 04:59:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BB53A672F; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:59:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.435 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.435 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.164, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wWvLLFjhBHK9; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:59:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3E83A6892; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:59:11 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,307,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="164802636" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 29 Nov 2009 07:58:54 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.15]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 29 Nov 2009 07:58:53 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:58:39 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for December 3, 2009 Telechat Thread-Index: Acpvtl/KjSHvH0wVQZytyL81OpwI3wBPMOUw From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: , "IETF DNS Directorate" , , "MIB Doctors (E-mail)" Subject: [dns-dir] FW: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for December 3, 2009 Telechat X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:59:14 -0000 Please find below the preliminary agenda of the 12/3 IESG telechat. Please send me your questions, comments and concerns about the documents and charters brought for approval before 1`2/2 COB.=20 Thanks and Regards, Dan -----Original Message----- From: iesg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of IESG Secretary Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:07 AM 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-sasl-gs2-18.txt Using GSS-API Mechanisms in SASL: The GS2 Mechanism Family (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 8=20 Note: Alexey Melnikov (alexey.melnikov@isode.com) is the document shepherd=20 Token: Pasi Eronen o draft-ietf-ipfix-mib-08.txt Definitions of Managed Objects for IP Flow Information Export (Proposed=20 Standard) - 2 of 8=20 Token: Dan Romascanu o draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-l3vpn-05.txt Support for RSVP in Layer 3 VPNs (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 8=20 Token: Magnus Westerlund o draft-ietf-pim-sm-linklocal-09.txt Authentication and Confidentiality in PIM-SM Link-local Messages (Proposed=20 Standard) - 4 of 8=20 Note: Document shepherd is Stig Venaas =20 Token: Adrian Farrel o draft-ietf-ospf-af-alt-09.txt Support of address families in OSPFv3 (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 8=20 Token: Ross Callon o draft-ietf-ospf-te-node-addr-06.txt Advertising a Router's Local Addresses in OSPF TE Extensions (Proposed =20 Standard) - 6 of 8=20 Note: Acee Lindem (acee@redback.com) is the document shepherd.=20 Token: Ross Callon o draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm-10.txt Label Switched Path (LSP) Dynamic Provisioning Performance Metrics in Generalized MPLS Networks (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 8=20 Note: Lou Berger (lberger@labn.net) is the document shepherd.=20 Token: Adrian Farrel o draft-ietf-16ng-ipv4-over-802-dot-16-ipcs-06.txt Transmission of IPv4 packets over IEEE 802.16's IP Convergence Sublayer=20 (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 8=20 Note: Gabriel Montenegro (g_e_montenegro@yahoo.com) is the document=20 shepherd.=20 Token: Ralph Droms 2.1.2 Returning Item NONE 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-dusseault-http-patch-16.txt PATCH Method for HTTP (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 4=20 Note: Mark Nottingham agreed to be the document shepherd..=20 Token: Alexey Melnikov o draft-klensin-ftp-registry-02.txt FTP Extension Registry (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 4=20 Note: Barry Leiba is the document=20 shepherd..=20 Token: Alexey Melnikov o draft-nottingham-site-meta-04.txt Defining Well-Known URIs (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 4=20 Token: Lisa Dusseault o draft-melnikov-imap-keywords-07.txt IMAP4 Keyword Registry (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 4=20 Note: Barry Leiba is the document shepherd.=20 Token: Lisa Dusseault 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-hip-native-api-09.txt Basic Socket Interface Extensions for Host Identity Protocol (HIP)=20 (Experimental) - 1 of 1=20 Note: Gonzalo Camarillo (Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com) is the document=20 shepherd.=20 Token: Ralph Droms 3.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-csi-sndp-prob-03.txt Securing Neighbor Discovery Proxy Problem Statement (Informational) - 1 of=20 1=20 Note: The document shepherd is Marcelo Bagnulo (marcelo@it.uc3m.es)=20 Token: Ralph Droms 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it covers? If not, what changes would make it so?" 3.2.1 New Item o draft-combes-ipdvb-mib-rcs-08.txt The SatLabs Group DVB-RCS MIB (Informational) - 1 of 3=20 Note: Document Shepherd is Gorry Fairhurst =20 Token: Jari Arkko o draft-reschke-rfc2731bis-04.txt RFC 2731 ("Encoding Dublin Core Metadata in HTML") is Obsolete=20 (Informational) - 2 of 3=20 Note: Bernard Desruisseaux is the=20 document shepherd.. RFC Editor seems to be fine with the idea of obsoleting=20 an RFC submitted directly to RFC Editor (e.g. RFC 2731) with an AD=20 sponsored document.=20 Token: Alexey Melnikov o draft-hammer-oauth-07.txt The OAuth Core 1.0 Protocol (Informational) - 3 of 3=20 Token: Lisa Dusseault 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor The IESG will use RFC 3932 responses: 1) The IESG has not found any conflict between this document and IETF work; 2) The IESG thinks that this work is related to IETF work done in WG , but this does not prevent publishing; 3) The IESG thinks that publication is harmful to work in WG and recommends not publishing at this time; 4) The IESG thinks that this document violates the IETF procedures for and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval; 5) The IESG thinks that this document extends an IETF protocol in a way that requires IETF review and should therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG approval. The document shepherd must propose one of these responses in the Data Tracker note and supply complete text in the IESG Note portion of the write-up. The Area Director ballot positions indicate consensus with the response proposed by the document shepherd. Other matters may be recorded in comments, and the comments will be passed on to the RFC Editor as community review of the document. 3.3.1 New Item NONE 3.3.2 Returning Item o draft-wu-softwire-4over6-03.txt 4over6 Transit Solution using IP Encapsulation and MP-BGP Extensions (Experimental) - 1 of 1=20 Token: Ralph Droms 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o HTTP State Management Mechanism (httpstate) - 1 of 1 Token: Lisa Dusseault 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE From dromasca@avaya.com Mon Nov 30 07:50:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D646D3A68E4; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:50:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.442 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.442 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.157, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DytmFDaKBDo3; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com (nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.12.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77873A6937; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:50:04 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,314,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="182076605" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 30 Nov 2009 10:49:56 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.15]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 30 Nov 2009 10:49:56 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:49:52 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: WG Review: HTTP State Management Mechanism (httpstate) Thread-Index: AcptL/eSOFPid35ASKm8nDKgozEwxAEpL5/A From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: , "IETF DNS Directorate" , "MIB Doctors (E-mail)" , Subject: [dns-dir] FW: WG Review: HTTP State Management Mechanism (httpstate) X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:50:07 -0000 =20 -----Original Message----- From: iesg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of IESG Secretary Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:00 PM To: new-work@ietf.org Subject: WG Review: HTTP State Management Mechanism (httpstate)=20 A new IETF working group has been proposed in the Applications Area. The IESG has not made any determination as yet. The following draft charter was submitted, and is provided for informational purposes only. Please send your comments to the IESG mailing list (iesg@ietf.org) by Tuesday, December 1, 2009. HTTP State Management Mechanism (httpstate) --------------------------------------------------- Current Status: Proposed Working Group Last modified: 2009-11-11 Chair(s): TBD Applications Area Director(s): Lisa Dusseault Alexey Melnikov=20 Applications Area Advisor: Lisa Dusseault=20 Mailing Lists:=20 General Discussion: http-state@ietf.org To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/http-state Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/http- state/current/maillist.html Alternative Archive: http://groups.google.com/group/http-state =20 Description of Working Group: =20 The HTTP State Management Mechanism (aka Cookies) was originally created by Netscape Communications in their informal Netscape cookie specification ("cookie_spec.html"), from which formal specifications RFC 2109 and RFC 2965 evolved. The formal specifications, however, were never fully implemented in practice; RFC 2109, in addition to cookie_spec.html, more closely resemble real-world implementations than RFC 2965, even though RFC 2965 officially obsoletes the former.=20 Compounding the problem are undocumented features (such as HTTPOnly), and varying behaviors among real-world implementations. =20 The working group will create a new RFC that obsoletes RFC 2109 and specifies Cookies as they are actually used in existing implementations and deployments. Where differences exist among the most commonly used implementations, the working group will document the variations. Where consensus exists among the most commonly used implementations, the working group will specify the consensus behavior. =20 The working group must not introduce any new syntax or new semantics not already in common use. =20 The working group's specific deliverables are:=20 * A standards-track document that is suitable to supersede RFC 2109 (likely based on draft-abarth-cookie) * An informational document cataloguing the differences between major implementations In doing so, the working group should consider: =20 * cookie_spec.html - Netscape Cookie Specification http://web.archive.org/web/20070805052634/http://wp.netscape.com/newsre f/std/cookie_spec.html=20 * RFC 2109 - HTTP State Management Mechanism (Obsoleted by RFC 2965) =20 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2109=20 * RFC 2964 - Use of HTTP State Management =20 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2964=20 * RFC 2965 - HTTP State Management Mechanism (Obsoletes RFC 2109) =20 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2965=20 * I-D - HTTP State Management Mechanism v2 =20 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pettersen-cookie-v2=20 * I-D - Cookie-based HTTP Authentication =20 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-broyer-http-cookie-auth=20 * Widely Implemented - HTTPOnly =20 http://www.owasp.org/index.php/HTTPOnly * Browser Security Handbook - Cookies http://code.google.com/p/browsersec/wiki/Part2#Same- origin_policy_for_cookies=20 * HTTP Cookies: Standards, Privacy, and Politics by David M. Kristol =20 http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/cs/pdf/0105/0105018v1.pdf =20 Goals and Milestones:=20 =20 Jan 2010 - Feature-complete Internet-Draft of Cookie specification Mar 2010 - Feature-complete test suite of Cookie specification May 2010 - First fully conforming implementation in a major browser Jul 2010 - Last Call for Cookie specification Sep 2010 - Second fully conforming implementation in a major browser Nov 2010 - Submit Cookie specification to IESG for consideration as=20 a Draft Standard Nov 2010 - Submit deviation description to IESG for consideration as=20 Informational