From bclaise@cisco.com Fri Mar 9 01:11:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A39921F85F0; Fri, 9 Mar 2012 01:11:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.508 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.508 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.091, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J4Lz1fRvtZIl; Fri, 9 Mar 2012 01:11:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6307021F85DD; Fri, 9 Mar 2012 01:11:09 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q2998bfB003723; Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:08:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.60.67.85] (ams-bclaise-8914.cisco.com [10.60.67.85]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q2998a0x013332; Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:08:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4F59C894.4070305@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 10:08:36 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aaa-doctors@ietf.org, "MIB Doctors (E-mail)" , YANG Doctors , ops-dir@ietf.org, IETF DNS Directorate References: <20120308230610.7157.47891.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20120308230610.7157.47891.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20120308230610.7157.47891.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:26:30 -0800 Subject: [dns-dir] Fwd: PRELIMINARY Agenda and Package for the March 15, 2012 IESG Teleconference X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 09:11:13 -0000 Dear all, Please find below the preliminary agenda of the March 15th IESG telechat. Please send your questions, comments and concerns before March 14th COB. Thanks and Regards, Dan and Benoit. -------- Original Message -------- AGENDA PACKAGE FOR 2012-03-15 IESG TELECHAT 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Items o draft-ietf-core-link-format-11 CoRE Link Format (Proposed Standard) Note: Carsten Bormann (cabo@tzi.org) is the document shepherd. Token: Peter Saint-Andre o draft-ietf-marf-dkim-reporting-12 Extensions to DKIM for Failure Reporting (Proposed Standard) Token: Pete Resnick o draft-ietf-marf-spf-reporting-08 SPF Authentication Failure Reporting using the Abuse Report Format (Proposed Standard) Token: Pete Resnick o draft-ietf-appsawg-xdash-03 Deprecating Use of the "X-" Prefix in Application Protocols (Best Current Practice) Token: Pete Resnick o draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-09 xDSL multi-pair bonding (G.Bond) MIB (Proposed Standard) Note: Menachem Dodge (Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Dan Romascanu o draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-05 ATM-Based xDSL Bonded Interfaces MIB (Proposed Standard) Note: Menachem Dodge (Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Dan Romascanu o draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-eth-mib-05 Ethernet-based xDSL multi-pair bonding (G.Bond/Ethernet) MIB (Proposed Standard) Note: Menachem Dodge (Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Dan Romascanu o draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-tdim-mib-07 xDSL multi-pair bonding using Time-Division Inverse Multiplexing (G.Bond/TDIM) MIB (Proposed Standard) Note: Menachem Dodge (Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Dan Romascanu o draft-ietf-tsvwg-source-quench-06 Deprecation of ICMP Source Quench messages (Proposed Standard) Note: Gorry Fairgurst (gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk) is the document shepherd. Token: Wesley Eddy o draft-ietf-pwe3-packet-pw-03 Packet Pseudowire Encapsulation over an MPLS PSN (Proposed Standard) Note: Matthew Bocci (matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Adrian Farrel o draft-ietf-ipfix-rfc5815bis-01 Definitions of Managed Objects for IP Flow Information Export (Proposed Standard) Note: Juergen Quittek (Quittek@neclab.eu) is the document shepherd. Token: Dan Romascanu o draft-ietf-mediactrl-6231-iana-00 IANA Registry for MEDIACTRL Interactive Voice Response Control Package (Proposed Standard) Token: Robert Sparks 2.1.2 Returning Items o draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-08 Encoding 3 PCN-States in the IP header using a single DSCP (Proposed Standard) Note: Scott Bradner (sob@harvard.edu) is the document shephed. Token: David Harrington 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Items o draft-mcgrew-tls-aes-ccm-03 AES-CCM Cipher Suites for TLS (Proposed Standard) Note: Joe Salowey<jsalowey@cisco.com> is the Document Shepherd. Token: Sean Turner 2.2.2 Returning Items NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Items o draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-12 PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Controlled Load (CL) Mode of Operation (Informational) Note: Steven Blake (slblake@petri-meat.com> is the document shepherd) Token: David Harrington o draft-ietf-pcn-sm-edge-behaviour-09 PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Single Marking (SM) Mode of Operation (Informational) Note: Steven Blake (slblake@petri-meat.com) is the document shepherd. Token: David Harrington o draft-ietf-decade-problem-statement-05 DECoupled Application Data Enroute (DECADE) Problem Statement (Informational) Note: Richard Woundy (richard_woundy@cable.comcast.com) is the document shepherd. Token: David Harrington o draft-ietf-opsawg-management-stds-05 An Overview of the IETF Network Management Standards (Informational) Note: Christopher Liljenstolpe is the Document Shepherd. Token: Dan Romascanu 3.1.2 Returning Items o draft-ietf-multimob-igmp-mld-tuning-05 Tuning the Behavior of IGMP and MLD for Routers in Mobile and Wireless Networks (Informational) Note: Behcet Sarikaya (sarikaya2012@gmail.com) is the document shepherd.Note: document is on the telechat 5 days before the LC ends. I'd like to complete this doc while I'm on the IESG, and handle additional last call comments (if any) in Paris IESG meeting. We'll hand it off to Brian if there's anything substantial. Token: Jari Arkko 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Items o draft-harkins-ipsecme-spsk-auth-06 Secure PSK Authentication for IKE (Experimental) Note: Paul Hoffman (paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) is the document shepherd. Token: Sean Turner o draft-shin-augmented-pake-13 Efficient Augmented Password-Only Authentication and Key Exchange for IKEv2 (Experimental) Note: Paul Hoffman is the document shepherd (paul.hoffman@vpnc.org). Token: Sean Turner o draft-kuegler-ipsecme-pace-ikev2-08 Password Authenticated Connection Establishment with IKEv2 (Experimental) Note: Paul Hoffman (paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) is the document shepherd. Token: Sean Turner o draft-reschke-http-status-308-05 The Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) Status Code 308 (Permanent Redirect) (Experimental) Note: Cyrus Daboo (cyrus@daboo.name) is the document shepherd. Token: Peter Saint-Andre 3.2.2 Returning Items o draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-03 Applicability Statement for the Level 3 Multihoming Shim Protocol (Shim6) (Informational) Token: Jari Arkko 3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents 3.3.1 New Items o draft-tsou-softwire-gwinit-6rd-06 "Gateway-Initiated" 6rd (Informational) Note: The IESG has concluded that this work is related to IETF work donein the softwire WG, but this relationship does not prevent publishing. Token: Ralph Droms 3.3.2 Returning Items NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o INtermediary-safe SIP session ID (insipid) Token: Gonzalo Camarillo 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval o Locator/ID Separation Protocol (lisp) Token: Jari Arkko o Hypertext Transfer Protocol Bis (httpbis) Token: Peter Saint-Andre From rdroms.ietf@gmail.com Sat Mar 10 06:27:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED4A21F8606 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 06:27:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.672 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.672 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.073, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0JapZvkZbP8S for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 06:27:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com (mail-vx0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F3421F8604 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 06:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by vcbfk13 with SMTP id fk13so2902046vcb.31 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 06:27:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=APiNcxjVMZhZfXWRPsEjepSRqjhYHL2qQDNPKiRKdUI=; b=P0+3LHpf3qb5bRrKr7ITYktdDL3Miyn2fE1zT/5tuq5zU724pUMe09+i20eOR1xiFA FLuKyCCbwXKVa4+JrUVntTjCZouVxHTY2p7DXaFdvSlRitDmyQsSImC/Gc66NRp7L+3p 1dwfQ/xYTfuLP4byN4gUp0OqUlXxOx8vhAbTIgidu0Q3Ql7ediZ8B1UDzF1RYkOVDAzl 83BTYT/773IQmyu+yS7VIxQoLLJzn3kip2aK61w8K2jaqin+NlPYJR7vpx3umkJ4zj91 1lWYaI3m6HfI3z9LthkLzCgrHZXmygXugvqsQ/aXVz1YMs8HBQSf/8sAlKvgYYl3Ukhb 3Gog== Received: by 10.52.69.100 with SMTP id d4mr9833580vdu.9.1331389657734; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 06:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rtp-rdroms-89113.cisco.com (rtp-isp-nat1.cisco.com. [64.102.254.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t8sm17216260vdh.11.2012.03.10.06.27.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Mar 2012 06:27:36 -0800 (PST) From: Ralph Droms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:27:33 -0500 Message-Id: To: int-ads@tools.ietf.org, IETF DNS Directorate Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [dns-dir] Question about draft-cheshire-dnsext-special-names X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:27:42 -0000 (resent with corrected =46rom address) IANA has a question about this text from section 5.5 or = draft-cheshire-dnsext-special-names: 1. Users SHOULD understand that example names are for use in documentation only and SHOULD NOT be expected to work with actual software on actual networks. Users SHOULD assume that queries for example names will always return NXDOMAIN responses. IANA currently arranges for a web page describing the example domains to = be returned in response to queries to, e.g., www.example.com. = Therefore, at present, a query to www.example.com never returns = NXDOMAIN; this means the last sentence quoted above, while technically = not wrong, is at least pointless if not misleading. So, should we: a) ask IANA to stop responding to queries to the example domains; or, b) strike that last sentence from the document? - Ralph=20 From rdroms.ietf@gmail.com Sat Mar 10 06:56:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1328421F8604 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 06:56:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.667 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.667 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05nKk6zW6VBF for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 06:56:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com (mail-vx0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB5921F85C5 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 06:56:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by vcbfk13 with SMTP id fk13so2928554vcb.31 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 06:56:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=hkFRoFzST8O6N+DIo2lNA0ID5V/HJce7bJeO0hn7kBA=; b=d92sz8aadifmOy3qTjO9SZHTaImRyU0BC3LDU4jrjdjS2bzFGt5ecMDSMkmeVNR6IS o13EDh7OJXJiPme+3Jfsi4+LhQQuZzowQjPSWu1GBNVtBmMMetVAsFDTcVtx8GzRKiga okOxnFTTtC5+mwtukk1Mz8g7lN4OEAlOKjOf38NgBy761fy4v5Nx9SIUqefb9MgR/5EY UDI70T3v1e/XijXQj4mkj0JxSSo11YTKch6gAvLoyydTvQUXJOUr1hT1B3yahIHpcdPj Ma7bEvOvIX0OfYAPJDliZZCy8q+xNTNUWXUX4oUaAOnIM2WhbRHvn9afHPTI8dvlny9U sf6g== Received: by 10.52.99.169 with SMTP id er9mr9367926vdb.126.1331391409638; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 06:56:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from rtp-rdroms-89113.cisco.com (rtp-isp-nat1.cisco.com. [64.102.254.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e18sm17313667vdh.20.2012.03.10.06.56.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Mar 2012 06:56:48 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Ralph Droms In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:56:45 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: int-ads@tools.ietf.org, IETF DNS Directorate X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Question about draft-cheshire-dnsext-special-names X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:56:51 -0000 After thinking about this issue a little more, I recommend the last = sentence be struck from the quoted text and IANA continue to respond to = queries to the example names. We don't want to encourage any dependence = on NXDOMAIN behavior relative to the example names. - Ralph On Mar 10, 2012, at 8:10 AM 3/10/12, Ralph Droms wrote: > IANA has a question about this text from section 5.5 or = draft-cheshire-dnsext-special-names: >=20 > 1. Users SHOULD understand that example names are for use in > documentation only and SHOULD NOT be expected to work with actual > software on actual networks. Users SHOULD assume that queries for > example names will always return NXDOMAIN responses. >=20 > IANA currently arranges for a web page describing the example domains = to be returned in response to queries to, e.g., www.example.com. = Therefore, at present, a query to www.example.com never returns = NXDOMAIN; this means the last sentence quoted above, while technically = not wrong, is at least pointless if not misleading. >=20 > So, should we: >=20 > a) ask IANA to stop responding to queries to the example domains; or, > b) strike that last sentence from the document? >=20 > - Ralph >=20 From paf@frobbit.se Sat Mar 10 08:24:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FD821F8547 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 08:24:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PrDbzgsZ-jnV for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 08:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv01.frobbit.se (srv01.frobbit.se [IPv6:2a02:80:3ffe::39]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F7321F851D for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 08:24:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srv01.frobbit.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5791349BA3C; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 17:24:02 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at frobbit.se Received: from srv01.frobbit.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv01.frobbit.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZgethF98W9Dr; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 17:24:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.196.232.51] (unknown [199.91.194.1]) (Authenticated sender: paf01) by srv01.frobbit.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BB51349BA37; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 17:24:01 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:23:58 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Ralph Droms X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) Cc: int-ads@tools.ietf.org, IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Question about draft-cheshire-dnsext-special-names X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:24:22 -0000 I think that is the correct thing. Patrik On 10 mar 2012, at 08:56, Ralph Droms wrote: > After thinking about this issue a little more, I recommend the last = sentence be struck from the quoted text and IANA continue to respond to = queries to the example names. We don't want to encourage any dependence = on NXDOMAIN behavior relative to the example names. >=20 > - Ralph >=20 > On Mar 10, 2012, at 8:10 AM 3/10/12, Ralph Droms wrote: >=20 >> IANA has a question about this text from section 5.5 or = draft-cheshire-dnsext-special-names: >>=20 >> 1. Users SHOULD understand that example names are for use in >> documentation only and SHOULD NOT be expected to work with actual >> software on actual networks. Users SHOULD assume that queries for >> example names will always return NXDOMAIN responses. >>=20 >> IANA currently arranges for a web page describing the example domains = to be returned in response to queries to, e.g., www.example.com. = Therefore, at present, a query to www.example.com never returns = NXDOMAIN; this means the last sentence quoted above, while technically = not wrong, is at least pointless if not misleading. >>=20 >> So, should we: >>=20 >> a) ask IANA to stop responding to queries to the example domains; or, >> b) strike that last sentence from the document? >>=20 >> - Ralph >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > dns-dir mailing list > dns-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir >=20 From peter@denic.de Sat Mar 10 13:50:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8A521F8512 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:50:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.562 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.562 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J56jM-iFkCUd for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:50:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from office.denic.de (office.denic.de [IPv6:2a02:568:122:16:1::4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA97021F8501 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:50:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from x27.adm.denic.de ([10.122.64.128]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1S6UBQ-0000v8-Sg; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:50:36 +0100 Received: from localhost by x27.adm.denic.de with local id 1S6UBQ-0007zo-MD; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:50:36 +0100 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:50:36 +0100 From: Peter Koch To: Ralph Droms Message-ID: <20120310215036.GL16377@x27.adm.denic.de> Mail-Followup-To: Ralph Droms , int-ads@tools.ietf.org, IETF DNS Directorate References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: Peter Koch Cc: int-ads@tools.ietf.org, IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Question about draft-cheshire-dnsext-special-names X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 21:50:48 -0000 On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 09:56:45AM -0500, Ralph Droms wrote: > After thinking about this issue a little more, I recommend the last sentence be struck from the quoted text and IANA continue to respond to queries to the example names. We don't want to encourage any dependence on NXDOMAIN behavior relative to the example names. Heavens, what is the status of this document? -Peter From rdroms.ietf@gmail.com Sat Mar 10 14:14:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9823121F8549 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:14:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.922 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.922 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.719, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id exzoSXoeMCFQ for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:14:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com (mail-gx0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBDB21F84D2 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:14:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by ggmi1 with SMTP id i1so1895041ggm.31 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:14:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=W7lYQgNqNC9z0v0O0yVe1fu1GZAd1s+lllPJ5rHXvek=; b=q/OS7aQrMUOZ9ERxf7rJKIR8GCND4GT+PfWIpcJ7cnoGdmxkO9cQXXQop7QOdsRrLH 4dddVypJFbjmePJ6KAZUgImKRgnY9v2trFtJTRpgBkxoI6e9sLUIvCaHpN8uAAKKZlvd 6Kh4LmSW/Ahm9WJOWC7auKoW/q3immPiaK35XfkpxSUF2NXQQwiuGnpuxVgX42eU6QOI o8m7hDxpC9r5m4DbqprVm7Hnk5OZx27AX9z4JxzdgJJ4SarQn7x/yXfY0ikiOTR6qmFr Eur5ebmPD3JWGVqG9VwSYZzIA/NeCqt4uZn663Z8KXM0I4AzRg4eL46zsyNDvHhq6Kz+ oYhA== Received: by 10.224.185.16 with SMTP id cm16mr2791044qab.0.1331417693681; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:14:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.116.164.53] (rtp-isp-nat1.cisco.com. [64.102.254.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cp10sm5190578qab.4.2012.03.10.14.14.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:14:52 -0800 (PST) References: <20120310215036.GL16377@x27.adm.denic.de> In-Reply-To: <20120310215036.GL16377@x27.adm.denic.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <914E4094-0E6A-4CA7-8C31-EA1AE9E5F50A@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B176) From: Ralph Droms Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 17:14:48 -0500 To: Peter Koch Cc: "int-ads@tools.ietf.org" , IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Question about draft-cheshire-dnsext-special-names X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:14:54 -0000 On Mar 10, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Peter Koch wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 09:56:45AM -0500, Ralph Droms wrote: >> After thinking about this issue a little more, I recommend the last sente= nce be struck from the quoted text and IANA continue to respond to queries t= o the example names. We don't want to encourage any dependence on NXDOMAIN b= ehavior relative to the example names. >=20 > Heavens, what is the status of this document? It has been through IETF last call and has been reviewed by the IESG. There= is one outstanding Discuss, which is a placeholder for a couple of IANA iss= ues. - Ralph >=20 > -Peter From rdroms.ietf@gmail.com Sun Mar 11 03:55:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B95C21F8540; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 03:55:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.584 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.584 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4NR6-+oQpMdZ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 03:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com (mail-gx0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7ED21F853B; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 03:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ggmi1 with SMTP id i1so2043400ggm.31 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 03:55:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :cc:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=KeDm9kiyXnF1Qtwa+LeSTjTlHFfHwpvFH0tln1E4A5M=; b=cO/YbcbS8Qeh9i2rq9YcyNY84FuGkN2FPN7D5C1ST0a3iIMc5XmXADG9qnoXo731cG zvLDGE6vHlrtEk3fvjalHyJImr3pzpC0T+FmpoBGobd6bM8WSGQPr2cjrbuDhaSkLRcr sw8XWeYdW9DYyc7GOzco5RHmmrDrN2rYqrJyp7Nf9UmYBK0DsRlZXIrfvwc5QFaDbjdk f4pPlJ3KFs7gpfaJ6mq8j0kDAgf/VnMme/WNLWfdaxbs9VrAVZmImPleexEOfKfJzawA dnYaksiJMuT+RvEoxxTCT9v6OhTJrZj+eo2FJYb2v1tSCOEbcoSCVoZfoS0HtAwjdCE/ bSFA== Received: by 10.224.27.84 with SMTP id h20mr4338123qac.48.1331463312413; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 03:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rtp-rdroms-89113.cisco.com (rtp-isp-nat1.cisco.com. [64.102.254.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ec5sm21239818qab.21.2012.03.11.03.55.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Mar 2012 03:55:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ralph Droms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 06:55:08 -0400 Message-Id: <26ED84FC-5B91-4ED5-8B87-5F91B60A88B6@gmail.com> To: The IESG Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: dnsext-chairs chairs , IETF Directorate DNS Subject: [dns-dir] draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-registry-fixes X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:55:13 -0000 After the IESG review of draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-registry-fixes, it was = decided to split the contents into two new drafts, = draft-srose-dnssec-registry-update-00 and = draft-srose-dnssec-algo-imp-status-00. Now that the latter two = documents are proceeding through dnsext, I've marked = draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-registry-fixes dead. - Ralph From peter@denic.de Wed Mar 21 17:03:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87E021F865F for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:03:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.569 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.569 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id guU4JRQQpvxi for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (office.denic.de [IPv6:2a02:568:122:16:1::4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4658721F8668 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x27.adm.denic.de ([10.122.64.128]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1SAVUs-0005Oj-1d; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:03:18 +0100 Received: from localhost by x27.adm.denic.de with local id 1SAVUr-0005Zd-US; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:03:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:03:17 +0100 From: Peter Koch To: dns-dir@ietf.org Message-ID: <20120322000317.GA19879@x27.adm.denic.de> Mail-Followup-To: dns-dir@ietf.org, Benoit Claise Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: Peter Koch Subject: [dns-dir] informal DNS directorate dinner in Paris? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:03:20 -0000 Dear colleagues, would anyone be available for and intersted in an informal DNS directorate dinner on Monday of the IETF week? No particular agenda, maybe some observation about missed reviews and, again, how to improve that situation. -Peter From dromasca@avaya.com Thu Mar 22 01:44:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D64421F860B for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:44:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.367 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.367 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.232, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CFBwqatIKFaR for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9D621F8615 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:44:26 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAFAD3mak/GmAcF/2dsb2JhbABEtx6BB4IJAQEBAQMBAQEPHgo0CwwEAgEIDQEDBAEBCwYMCwEGASYfCQgBAQQBEggah2gLnAeKWpFDBIpjhR5jBJtuihmCaIFb X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,629,1325480400"; d="scan'208";a="338329912" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 22 Mar 2012 04:44:25 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 22 Mar 2012 04:36:03 -0400 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:44:23 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20120322000317.GA19879@x27.adm.denic.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [dns-dir] informal DNS directorate dinner in Paris? Thread-Index: Ac0HvzP0xO7fMb0FQk2/EQt5NNqF+wASHT9Q References: <20120322000317.GA19879@x27.adm.denic.de> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Peter Koch" , Subject: Re: [dns-dir] informal DNS directorate dinner in Paris? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 08:44:27 -0000 Please make sure that Benoit Claise is included in the DNS-DIR discussions and mail list. As you probably know Benoit is replacing me as co-AD for OPS starting with next week.=20 I have a conflicting dinner commitment for Monday.=20 Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dns-dir-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Peter Koch > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:03 AM > To: dns-dir@ietf.org > Subject: [dns-dir] informal DNS directorate dinner in Paris? >=20 > Dear colleagues, >=20 > would anyone be available for and intersted in an informal DNS > directorate > dinner on Monday of the IETF week? No particular agenda, maybe some > observation about missed reviews and, again, how to improve that > situation. >=20 > -Peter > _______________________________________________ > dns-dir mailing list > dns-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From olaf@NLnetLabs.nl Thu Mar 22 01:50:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A8121F85BD for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:50:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U8qFvw3GOy2S for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from open.nlnetlabs.nl (open.nlnetlabs.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D6D21F8617 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1:ba8d:12ff:fe04:cd14] ([IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1:ba8d:12ff:fe04:cd14]) (authenticated bits=0) by open.nlnetlabs.nl (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q2M8o6nJ042022 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:50:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olaf@NLnetLabs.nl) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=nlnetlabs.nl; s=default; t=1332406207; bh=0GN5catAsuSjuqkkYy8emBlSVqNltYEHcsXOja1SFGs=; h=Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc: Message-Id:References:To; b=pPhu4OegqmWmuFeBUl801Lvb8+y+W4ql3VVnVpudb3Yg85X+uudEMtFRo0swUtXtP 9EGI15NShXusvJ9Z7SQ+Wkm984SPR7JsftfGtD8JZ8JwClgHT1Nk+FZ45/XFZ1Clb7 o5h6qQn9jKSnGbl/r9wzoEYcvq6Np+fCNZo2v1QU= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_91D3A775-8012-430B-AB00-0AFA9619270F"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 From: Olaf Kolkman In-Reply-To: <20120322000317.GA19879@x27.adm.denic.de> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:50:04 +0100 Message-Id: <90BF69D5-EF77-4579-A28E-C5598D1C7D6C@NLnetLabs.nl> References: <20120322000317.GA19879@x27.adm.denic.de> To: Peter Koch X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (open.nlnetlabs.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1::1]); Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:50:07 +0100 (CET) Cc: dns-dir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dns-dir] informal DNS directorate dinner in Paris? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 08:50:10 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_91D3A775-8012-430B-AB00-0AFA9619270F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mar 22, 2012, at 1:03 AM, Peter Koch wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > would anyone be available for and intersted in an informal DNS directorate > dinner on Monday of the IETF week? No particular agenda, maybe some > observation about missed reviews and, again, how to improve that situation. I am not available on Monday ;-( --Olaf ________________________________________________________ Olaf M. Kolkman NLnet Labs http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/ --Apple-Mail=_91D3A775-8012-430B-AB00-0AFA9619270F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPaue9AAoJEFRqER47aqpkPAYP/j5IOfHGm2LFv0DDD1LPRTIc DNy8L9Z4tr5OTN2SF1QLaGugdvn2o1PktiVUQtaVGPyR2HP8pxtkNOpa6WvRMwex AR+3syFhL//9bpbwW45eAM7C63RuaolkoHERNCFZPaZf7LO4eFFC9Rlre2H2owNw 03F5BroTOAthUdq7sqGb/JZg3RwIi984mRltoYHIBzS2Sm1oxVM+DSIAZjpaUKQi sDlmfOoURbwXeon53A5Cz2QMsph31PeN0YAvEL5yB4PSFCcIhdBNHHVsdFu7HQzc o14ZnhzegRdspSxowDoYTpAPAneDcteMJPdisWxExnMyANaTfEtAv3BXJzZDcLEg 1BkbI2euaTD3hqq8/rpNmCmCBNL1ZYr53rIfMlgD5R4rGOVMW16W+XrMBeTeU1Us xT112TzrXcOCPkM2onDxj7/xv1vZlNfbeLqUEdEic4NtulOLfeppiBtCaX4YKidM JF4EpgZbBGO42R2Cd4wYqduem2pfXHxI0T/zvAM7UEjNi0ol3T+SH91O27qg7agt QxkxSmS+dsdDb45X14/mmdoo+N6WA1qBj5ETYd7wSSeSijBRI/ckauE1aN3kwUHj AFVx6uijhlwUZnusbK8wvjAL5Xgf4hGAJ6eWcZUaWR3DIWkVbFq/K6R40gqk53sB y+F1lN+xRtJ6tFOVyut0 =MOk/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_91D3A775-8012-430B-AB00-0AFA9619270F-- From peter@denic.de Thu Mar 22 02:24:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8EB21F85D8 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 02:24:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AJarm9mMGcxp for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 02:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (office.denic.de [IPv6:2a02:568:122:16:1::4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A4221F8566 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 02:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x27.adm.denic.de ([10.122.64.128]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1SAeFl-0001NM-2H; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:24:17 +0100 Received: from localhost by x27.adm.denic.de with local id 1SAeFk-00080M-Un; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:24:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:24:16 +0100 From: Peter Koch To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" Message-ID: <20120322092416.GD19879@x27.adm.denic.de> Mail-Followup-To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , dns-dir@ietf.org References: <20120322000317.GA19879@x27.adm.denic.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: Peter Koch Cc: dns-dir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dns-dir] informal DNS directorate dinner in Paris? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:24:19 -0000 On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 09:44:23AM +0100, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Please make sure that Benoit Claise is included in the DNS-DIR > discussions and mail list. As you probably know Benoit is replacing me > as co-AD for OPS starting with next week. yes, thanks. I thought I had added Benoit to my initial mail, but he disappered from the headers, which may suggest mailman at work. I'll wait a moment and set up a doodle for an alternative date. -Peter From rdroms.ietf@gmail.com Fri Mar 23 04:24:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7625B21F8503 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 04:24:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.564 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.564 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.034, BAYES_00=-2.599, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=1.069, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vwDwLX3eceRF for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 04:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com (mail-wg0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB61121F84B8 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 04:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wgbdr13 with SMTP id dr13so1408655wgb.13 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 04:23:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=zKyXtrxyJ0/W2GuC8DGdLVBN2jZOyKmj3pUdR0ezmME=; b=XECNbvCLx7CNWulUjXxsu1BvJRN6n7iuJysYyUGGXSwo/3SoS/hvVKCreasSICBmLp HJEaRfeylH1pBHT1gT3tiwndMvU4CN73I4tOKk2JpFOF85EY6QbqINoVE6iavXhff9L5 szeTU1CrhRjI+ssEL4bdgDLGPBzcF68oR4fZHWwpYXIZfqTVQUW+TKtd9zK81SBbv1qr HfWfSfW1Su4CvPbTYeh6No8ciI8tNkd0mLXS3zSwvlZq5tETbs58Iu7vWl34JSsCPlDC 635zhLsXaAn1PbzIjCFaR/k68SC/gebYeHtPh5I/8ZPPgqm/W5Vj6rbDn2uLzHonzdZ5 hDgQ== Received: by 10.180.79.72 with SMTP id h8mr5795510wix.1.1332501835852; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 04:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.59.89.157] (access-49.80.rev.fr.colt.net. [213.41.80.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ff9sm13098184wib.2.2012.03.23.04.23.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 23 Mar 2012 04:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ralph Droms In-Reply-To: <20120322000317.GA19879@x27.adm.denic.de> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 22:03:22 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0F4B2EB2-55BE-4006-9317-28BD097A8553@gmail.com> References: <20120322000317.GA19879@x27.adm.denic.de> To: Peter Koch X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: Haberman Brian , IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] informal DNS directorate dinner in Paris? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:24:16 -0000 I'm available for dinner Monday PM. Also please add Brian Haberman, the incoming Internet AD, to the DNS = Directorate mailing list. - Ralph On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:03 PM 3/21/12, Peter Koch wrote: > Dear colleagues, >=20 > would anyone be available for and intersted in an informal DNS = directorate > dinner on Monday of the IETF week? No particular agenda, maybe some > observation about missed reviews and, again, how to improve that = situation. >=20 > -Peter > _______________________________________________ > dns-dir mailing list > dns-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From peter@denic.de Mon Mar 26 07:05:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB0321F875C for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:05:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id phs9Tu8vgtSe for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (office.denic.de [IPv6:2a02:568:122:16:1::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DBD21F875B for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x27.adm.denic.de ([10.122.64.17]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1SCAXi-0005Ae-Fo; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:05:06 +0200 Received: from localhost by x27.adm.denic.de with local id 1SCAXi-0000dc-Br; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:05:06 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:05:06 +0200 From: Peter Koch To: Brian Haberman Message-ID: <20120326140506.GG13455@x28.adm.denic.de> Mail-Followup-To: Brian Haberman , IETF DNS Directorate , Claise Benoit References: <20120322000317.GA19879@x27.adm.denic.de> <0F4B2EB2-55BE-4006-9317-28BD097A8553@gmail.com> <4F6CD3B8.9040005@innovationslab.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F6CD3B8.9040005@innovationslab.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: Peter Koch Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] informal DNS directorate dinner in Paris? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:05:14 -0000 On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 03:49:12PM -0400, Brian Haberman wrote: > I should be available on Monday evening. thanks. Let's meet after the plenary, say, 20:00 at the Air France bus stop - that's right between the Concorde and the Meridien. So far I have ACKs from Ralph Brian Andrew Stephen Liman apologis from Ron and Olaf and I understand neither of Matt, Roy and Patrik is in Paris. -Peter From bclaise@cisco.com Mon Mar 26 07:08:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369A721F875D for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:08:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.461 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.461 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.138, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6ewzAlxBdHzR for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5891321F8757 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:08:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q2QE8heZ013612; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:08:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.61.81.73] (ams3-vpn-dhcp4426.cisco.com [10.61.81.73]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q2QE8h7u025273; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:08:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4F70786B.2050406@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:08:43 +0200 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Haberman , IETF DNS Directorate References: <20120322000317.GA19879@x27.adm.denic.de> <0F4B2EB2-55BE-4006-9317-28BD097A8553@gmail.com> <4F6CD3B8.9040005@innovationslab.net> <20120326140506.GG13455@x28.adm.denic.de> In-Reply-To: <20120326140506.GG13455@x28.adm.denic.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [dns-dir] informal DNS directorate dinner in Paris? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:08:47 -0000 Peter, Sorry, I'll have to decline to prepare some slides for tomorrow. Regards, Benoit. > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 03:49:12PM -0400, Brian Haberman wrote: >> I should be available on Monday evening. > thanks. Let's meet after the plenary, say, 20:00 at the Air > France bus stop - that's right between the Concorde and the > Meridien. > > So far I have ACKs from > > Ralph > Brian > > Andrew > Stephen > Liman > > apologis from Ron and Olaf and I understand neither of Matt, Roy and > Patrik is in Paris. > > -Peter > > From rdroms.ietf@gmail.com Mon Mar 26 07:47:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1C621E8097 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:47:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nxntKH2vgnsc for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com (mail-qa0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56F721F8531 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qadc14 with SMTP id c14so2233065qad.10 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=wevxEnvZ86mZxGrb9PiB8gZP67HVUJL1tMhxkXP7mCY=; b=m6JhHZznlODy98/aryrwy7nJyOIbItCIVaijzpRmnq2lRcf+vufOg/uznCSnzUHuea 77rf6MxhGP05EyTaH1w/gYJKbQ7whmU115oUNmGr1wmGpBgOPqwX40YrXp6lcCCxaUR/ 4mRrVG/xs4SZQnf2wMedLqEBFUmYBDJ3o9H/nRSz/mz9E5xrrdQ/27h0cpS6QuBzI+q2 3hKr4R/MePJJ9gMC84Jjhu6hycLWC+qsbmY+Jj4Z5DMuZBLYaAHNm781Gdf0lkYTxFhl dtvrZqVN2hZ9ZXjKaI76JYjcfdg8gSXv2frsRdNETFb13usInD7LaXx9ge790IvRljJG pLdQ== Received: by 10.229.75.143 with SMTP id y15mr8404203qcj.2.1332773255295; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.86.253.59] (198-135-0-233.cisco.com. [198.135.0.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fo9sm21182022qab.21.2012.03.26.07.47.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ralph Droms In-Reply-To: <20120326140506.GG13455@x28.adm.denic.de> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:47:29 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20120322000317.GA19879@x27.adm.denic.de> <0F4B2EB2-55BE-4006-9317-28BD097A8553@gmail.com> <4F6CD3B8.9040005@innovationslab.net> <20120326140506.GG13455@x28.adm.denic.de> To: Peter Koch X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: Haberman Brian , IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] informal DNS directorate dinner in Paris? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:47:36 -0000 I will be in the its side meeting until 20:00, so I won't be able to get = to the meeting point until, say, 20:10. Is the meeting point on the same side of the street as the Concorde or = the Meridien? - Ralph On Mar 26, 2012, at 4:05 PM 3/26/12, Peter Koch wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 03:49:12PM -0400, Brian Haberman wrote: >> I should be available on Monday evening. >=20 > thanks. Let's meet after the plenary, say, 20:00 at the Air > France bus stop - that's right between the Concorde and the > Meridien. >=20 > So far I have ACKs from >=20 > Ralph > Brian >=20 > Andrew > Stephen > Liman >=20 > apologis from Ron and Olaf and I understand neither of Matt, Roy and > Patrik is in Paris. >=20 > -Peter > _______________________________________________ > dns-dir mailing list > dns-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From peter@denic.de Mon Mar 26 08:01:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7861721E80D1 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:01:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.58 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.58 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.019, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Aj0hTBZscy-T for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (office.denic.de [IPv6:2a02:568:122:16:1::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18F821E80D0 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x27.adm.denic.de ([10.122.64.17]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1SCBQQ-0005T6-WA; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:01:39 +0200 Received: from localhost by x27.adm.denic.de with local id 1SCBQQ-0001OM-SE; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:01:38 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:01:38 +0200 From: Peter Koch To: Ralph Droms Message-ID: <20120326150138.GK13455@x28.adm.denic.de> Mail-Followup-To: Ralph Droms , Haberman Brian , IETF DNS Directorate References: <20120322000317.GA19879@x27.adm.denic.de> <0F4B2EB2-55BE-4006-9317-28BD097A8553@gmail.com> <4F6CD3B8.9040005@innovationslab.net> <20120326140506.GG13455@x28.adm.denic.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: Peter Koch Cc: Haberman Brian , IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] informal DNS directorate dinner in Paris? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:01:40 -0000 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 04:47:29PM +0200, Ralph Droms wrote: > > Is the meeting point on the same side of the street as the Concorde or the Meridien? side of the Convention Centre/Concorde, acress the street from the Meridien. -Peter From tlyu@mit.edu Mon Mar 26 08:11:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F34521F8613 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:11:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.858 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.858 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.259, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id asFCdEIdVfVp for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu (DMZ-MAILSEC-SCANNER-1.MIT.EDU [18.9.25.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B861E21F8504 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:11:43 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 1209190c-b7fad6d000000920-d6-4f70872b27f0 Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.39]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 1A.29.02336.B27807F4; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id q2QFBd7I012780; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:11:39 -0400 Received: from cathode-dark-space.mit.edu (CATHODE-DARK-SPACE.MIT.EDU [18.18.1.96]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as tlyu@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id q2QFBbcW013923 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:11:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tlyu@localhost) by cathode-dark-space.mit.edu (8.12.9.20060308) id q2QFBbMs024953; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:11:37 -0400 (EDT) To: Brian Haberman References: <20120322000317.GA19879@x27.adm.denic.de> <0F4B2EB2-55BE-4006-9317-28BD097A8553@gmail.com> <4F6CD3B8.9040005@innovationslab.net> <20120326140506.GG13455@x28.adm.denic.de> From: Tom Yu Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:11:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20120326140506.GG13455@x28.adm.denic.de> (Peter Koch's message of "Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:05:06 +0200") Message-ID: Lines: 10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrCIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6nrqvTXuBvsMPA4uhjCYuZPf8YLR6u Ps7mwOwx5fdGVo8lS34yecw8/oUlgDmKyyYlNSezLLVI3y6BK6Nv6WLGggNMFacO7mZsYPzN 2MXIySEhYCJxYEEbE4QtJnHh3nq2LkYuDiGBfYwSL9evZodwNjBKrHn+ixXCucIkMW3XNjaQ FiGBLkaJBds4QGwRAV2Jxo4VLCA2s4CfRO/l++wgtrCAg8TPnStZIOr3MEo8P2zaxcjBwSYg LXF0cRlImEVAVeLJ5B1gF3EKFEmcOjgNzOYVsJBYcXA32BgeAU6JT1OvsEPEBSVOznwCtUpL 4sa/l0wTGAVnIUnNQpJawMi0ilE2JbdKNzcxM6c4NVm3ODkxLy+1SNdQLzezRC81pXQTIyhw OSV5djC+Oah0iFGAg1GJh1dzfb6/EGtiWXFl7iFGSQ4mJVFem5YCfyG+pPyUyozE4oz4otKc 1OJDjBIczEoivL+5gXK8KYmVValF+TApaQ4WJXFeFa13fkIC6YklqdmpqQWpRTBZGQ4OJQle zTagRsGi1PTUirTMnBKENBMHJ8hwHqDhdiA1vMUFibnFmekQ+VOMilLivHwgCQGQREZpHlwv LLG8YhQHekWYVwKkigeYlOC6XwENZgIavORIPsjgkkSElFQDI7cUa/eFS4lTpq7aqFN/w3rN /72FSqIy5ocvaradjPy493ZE6qr9etev+N3cX+iv9/aFtQpPm8RsxjsCOw79Oc/7OPCd15pk 78v1TwujfINbxKYIPfoxz+Eq/5UfEZN+Npz2C3ugGnsu84G7u4VbXUXp/0KWqqnsb7mKtnMU F0oq/rnUfvfKQSWW4oxEQy3mouJEAHqus0MHAwAA Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] informal DNS directorate dinner in Paris? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:11:44 -0000 Peter Koch writes: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 03:49:12PM -0400, Brian Haberman wrote: >> I should be available on Monday evening. > > thanks. Let's meet after the plenary, say, 20:00 at the Air > France bus stop - that's right between the Concorde and the > Meridien. I'm planning to be there. From sa.morris7@googlemail.com Mon Mar 26 10:18:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B30621E80BD for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:18:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qQZGyc6t9O+Y for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A392D21E80BE for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eeke51 with SMTP id e51so1625587eek.31 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:18:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z4w9BHN1ZDt1Vvu7AwwafX+q86XM4YaotoTSCGEIGU4=; b=fyWLpmnM4/4J0N4tgIlM/aXcHPQzhOPJqXMeeCmXHk01/dQL5kd6JCT1/K/N9pM1cH QdcXoSg/+GC+wF7Ose+HJmFLIbmMTSJDBWLbmFcATiWtkW7nrU0WClA1xdpZ61iQo/p+ /H0pq4zgVaXhRSLxAbDhymPnh0HTUdEt4kKzsPt/u0bGff3CcNykBcwW6/KYCiGC0U2A jEOlltyn9qtgpprlvZ3wNok8ZEpZzD0OktPIsgebdjQPGF9v9pa3Lt3qQOgryYC2Nnir llCoLdarAV2NgDoJmls6rBMpJAeE7JKXNr+XiGCtqR2zw2kwiTHVFHAnFpgJGs+bgLI3 /mLQ== Received: by 10.14.37.194 with SMTP id y42mr2996818eea.128.1332782297796; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-1745.meeting.ietf.org ([2001:df8:0:16:225:ff:fe4c:a932]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p57sm60476313eei.8.2012.03.26.10.18.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F70A4D7.20604@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:18:15 +0200 From: Stephen Morris User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120313 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dns-dir@ietf.org References: <20120322000317.GA19879@x27.adm.denic.de> <0F4B2EB2-55BE-4006-9317-28BD097A8553@gmail.com> <4F6CD3B8.9040005@innovationslab.net> <20120326140506.GG13455@x28.adm.denic.de> In-Reply-To: <20120326140506.GG13455@x28.adm.denic.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [dns-dir] informal DNS directorate dinner in Paris? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:18:42 -0000 On 26/03/2012 16:05, Peter Koch wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 03:49:12PM -0400, Brian Haberman wrote: >> I should be available on Monday evening. > > thanks. Let's meet after the plenary, say, 20:00 at the Air > France bus stop - that's right between the Concorde and the > Meridien. > > So far I have ACKs from > Stephen I don't think I sent an ack. I'm afraid I can't make it tonight as I have an ISC teleconference at that time. Stephen From liman@autonomica.se Mon Mar 26 10:52:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DF421F8568 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:52:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.437 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.437 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_NET=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RYq2lBSkIwGN for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cafax.se (mail.cafax.se [IPv6:2a00:801:11:53::4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68FC21F855F for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ziptop.autonomica.net ([93.158.43.233]) by mail.cafax.se (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2QHq8M9020527 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:52:21 +0200 (MEST) Received: from ziptop.autonomica.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ziptop.autonomica.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q2QHpf01058981; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:51:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Lars-Johan Liman To: Brian Haberman In-Reply-To: <20120326140506.GG13455@x28.adm.denic.de> (Peter Koch's message of "Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:05:06 +0200") References: <20120322000317.GA19879@x27.adm.denic.de> <0F4B2EB2-55BE-4006-9317-28BD097A8553@gmail.com> <4F6CD3B8.9040005@innovationslab.net> <20120326140506.GG13455@x28.adm.denic.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (Ma Gnus v0.4) Emacs/23.1 (darwin) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:51:41 +0200 Message-ID: <22fwcv1c9e.fsf@ziptop.autonomica.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] informal DNS directorate dinner in Paris? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:52:32 -0000 pk@DENIC.DE: > thanks. Let's meet after the plenary, say, 20:00 at the Air > France bus stop - that's right between the Concorde and the > Meridien. Ack. Cheers, /Liman From brian@innovationslab.net Wed Mar 28 00:58:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5286721F8942 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:58:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s38x5G54Df-Y for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uillean.fuaim.com (uillean.fuaim.com [206.197.161.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A215521F8943 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clairseach.fuaim.com (clairseach.fuaim.com [206.197.161.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uillean.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F871880CC for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-5588.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-5588.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.85.136]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by clairseach.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257F6130017 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F72C497.6060000@innovationslab.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 03:58:15 -0400 From: Brian Haberman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120313 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dns-dir@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:31:25 -0700 Subject: [dns-dir] Adding to the DNS Directorate X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:58:16 -0000 All, One of the things we discussed at the directorate dinner was expanding the membership. What is the opinion of the directorate of adding Jim Martin? Regards, Brian From peter@denic.de Wed Mar 28 09:51:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EEFA21E8268 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:51:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.582 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.582 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.017, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yVUJS57YnPK1 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (office.denic.de [IPv6:2a02:568:122:16:1::4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4111B21E8091 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x27.adm.denic.de ([10.122.64.128]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1SCw5s-0004lM-Nj; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:51:32 +0200 Received: from localhost by x27.adm.denic.de with local id 1SCw5s-00049l-KI; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:51:32 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:51:32 +0200 From: Peter Koch To: Brian Haberman Message-ID: <20120328165132.GQ3223@x27.adm.denic.de> Mail-Followup-To: Brian Haberman , dns-dir@ietf.org References: <4F72C497.6060000@innovationslab.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F72C497.6060000@innovationslab.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: Peter Koch Cc: dns-dir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Adding to the DNS Directorate X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:51:36 -0000 Brian, all, > One of the things we discussed at the directorate dinner was > expanding the membership. What is the opinion of the directorate of > adding Jim Martin? {this list is publicly archived at } with no judgement about this particular proposal I think we need to talk about structure, numbers, mode of operation (a review team vs. outreach team vs. pool of advisors) as well as the desired backgrounds and time committments before looking at individuals. Andrew and myself are planning to come up with some options/suggestions. -Peter From brian@innovationslab.net Wed Mar 28 10:53:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B5421E80A4 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:53:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6aVtwpycPpal for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uillean.fuaim.com (uillean.fuaim.com [206.197.161.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D88521E809F for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clairseach.fuaim.com (clairseach.fuaim.com [206.197.161.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by uillean.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7AE880C8 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-4048.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-4048.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.64.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by clairseach.fuaim.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDB4130017 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F735009.7040709@innovationslab.net> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:53:13 -0400 From: Brian Haberman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120313 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dns-dir@ietf.org References: <4F72C497.6060000@innovationslab.net> <20120328165132.GQ3223@x27.adm.denic.de> In-Reply-To: <20120328165132.GQ3223@x27.adm.denic.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Adding to the DNS Directorate X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:53:17 -0000 Hi Peter, On 3/28/12 12:51 PM, Peter Koch wrote: > Brian, all, > >> One of the things we discussed at the directorate dinner was >> expanding the membership. What is the opinion of the directorate of >> adding Jim Martin? > > {this list is publicly archived at} > > with no judgement about this particular proposal I think we need to > talk about structure, numbers, mode of operation (a review team > vs. outreach team vs. pool of advisors) as well as the desired > backgrounds and time committments before looking at individuals. Makes sense to me. > > Andrew and myself are planning to come up with some options/suggestions. Sounds good. Regards, Brian