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Dear all,

Please find below the agenda of the April 11th IESG telechat.
Please send your questions, comments and concerns before April 10th COB.

Thanks and Regards, Benoit

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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Summarized Agenda for the 2013-04-11 IESG Teleconference

This agenda was generated at 2013-04-04 14:09:34 PDT
Up-to-date web version of this agenda can be found at:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/agenda/
                                                                                 

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items

   o draft-ietf-pkix-rfc2560bis-16  - IETF stream
     X.509 Internet Public Key Infrastructure Online Certificate Status
     Protocol - OCSP (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Document Shepherd: Steve Kent (kent@bbn.com)
     Token: Sean Turner
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Unknown

   o draft-ietf-tls-multiple-cert-status-extension-06  - IETF stream
     The TLS Multiple Certificate Status Request Extension (Proposed
     Standard)
     Note: Document Shepherd - Joe Salowey (jsalowey@cisco.com)
     Token: Sean Turner
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Unknown

   o draft-ietf-appsawg-webfinger-12  - IETF stream
     WebFinger (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Salvatore Loreto (Salvatore.Loreto@ericsson.com) is the
     document shepherd.
     Token: Barry Leiba
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Unknown

2.1.2 Returning Items

   NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items

   o draft-saintandre-urn-example-04  - IETF stream
     A Uniform Resource Name (URN) Namespace for Examples (Best Current
     Practice)
     Token: Barry Leiba
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Unknown
     Last call expires: 2013-04-09

2.2.2 Returning Items

   NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items

   o draft-ietf-intarea-nat-reveal-analysis-06  - IETF stream
     Analysis of Solution Candidates to Reveal a Host Identifier
     (HOST_ID) in Shared Address Deployments (Informational)
     Token: Brian Haberman
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Unknown

3.1.2 Returning Items

   o draft-ietf-savi-threat-scope-07  - IETF stream
     SAVI Threat Scope (Informational)
     Note: Jean-Michel Combes (jeanmichel.combes@gmail.com) is the
     Document Shepherd.
     Token: Ted Lemon
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Unknown

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items

   o draft-merkle-ikev2-ke-brainpool-03  - IETF stream
     Using the ECC Brainpool Curves for IKEv2 Key Exchange
     (Informational)
     Note: Dan Harkins (dharkins@lounge.org) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Sean Turner
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Unknown

3.2.2 Returning Items

   NONE

3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.3.1 New Items

   o conflict-review-templin-v6ops-isops-00
     IETF conflict review for draft-templin-v6ops-isops
       draft-templin-v6ops-isops-18
       Operational Guidance for IPv6 Deployment in IPv4 Sites using
     ISATAP (ISE: Informational)
     Token: Joel Jaeggli

3.3.2 Returning Items

   NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

   o IMAP QRESYNC Extension (qresync)

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

   NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review

   o Javascript Object Signing and Encryption (jose)

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

   NONE



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Thanks for the review and we are currently working through it!

   Martin

On 03/29/2013 03:13 PM, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote:
> I reviewed the document and this is a well written clear document with some deficiencies.
>
> The introduction is real good at explaining what the document is attempting.
>
> The procedure(s) proposed are based of the implicit assumption that provisioning of reverse DNS is
> somehow related to service provision for another protocol, which may or may not be the case.
>
> Question #1: How is dual stack handled in queries?
> in sequence or in parallel ?
> if sequence which one first ?
>
> Question #2 What about hosts with multiple links?
>
> The procedures expect hope to get back PTR records and the name in the PTR record
> is used for further lookups.  (good)
> The fundamental question is are all attempts to find PTR exhausted before going to next step?
>
> Question #3: what about the case when there are multiple PTR records in the answer?
>
> If the lookup fails the procedure hopes to find SOA record in the negative answer,
> extracts from the SOA record the name of the "Master DNS server" MNAME,
> and uses that name to do further lookups.
>
> Comment #1: Master DNS servers are not always reachable, as they are hidden masters or
> traffic protected. Frequently there is no correlation between the zone name and the Mname
> I did  a randomly selected reverse lookup on 185.55.55.55
>    185.in-addr.arpa.	3600	IN	SOA	pri.authdns.ripe.net. dns.ripe.net. …….
>
> In this case it is obvious (to a human) the SOA is useless and the algorithm should terminate,
> what the procedure as specified will do is to cause many queries to the RIR name servers for lots of names that have
> no PTR records and no delegations.
>
> Question #4: Why MNAME but not the owner name of the SOA ? (explain or point to explanation)
>
> Question #5: What is the point of the explicit SOA query for reverse name and why do editors expect to get a different answer than in the PTR question ?
>
> Section #4:
> there is no mention about the expected extra traffic to RIR (and or ISP) DNS server when the PTR lookup fails,
> I would like to see some text on how to abort the algorithms early I.e.
> SOA present --- useful    SOA ---> do lookup
>                 +-------- useless SOA ---> algorithm failed
>
>
> This boat has probably sailed but I will ask  it anyway:
> Question #6 Why not place the NAPTR records in the reverse tree?
>
> Editing comment: It would be helpful if the text from section 3 bullet 1 about what address to look up was included in section 2 before the
> diagrams of the algorithms (or at least pointer to address selection).
>
> 	Olafur
>
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>      The ALTO WG is considering the adoption of a draft focused on the discovery of an ALTO server using DNS (but not SRV records).  Martin (TSV AD) has requested an early DNS Directorate review.  Could I get a volunteer (or two) to review the draft for DNS sanity?
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kist-alto-3pdisc/
>>
>> Regards,
>> Brian
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Dear all,

Please find below the agenda of the April 25th IESG telechat.
Please send your questions, comments and concerns before April 24th COB.

Thanks and Regards, Benoit


-------- Original Message --------

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Summarized Agenda for the 2013-04-25 IESG Teleconference

This agenda was generated at 2013-04-18 15:05:26 PDT
Up-to-date web version of this agenda can be found at:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/agenda/
                                                                                 


2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items

   o draft-ietf-core-coap-15  - IETF stream
     Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) (Proposed Standard)
     Token: Barry Leiba
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Yes

   o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-07  - IETF stream
     MPLS-TP Next-Hop Ethernet Addressing (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Loa Andersson (loa@pi.nu) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Adrian Farrel
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Yes

   o draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-iid-registry-update-03  - IETF stream
     OSPFv3 Instance ID Registry Update (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Acee Lindem (acee.lindem@ericsson.com) is the document
     shepherd.
     Token: Stewart Bryant
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Unknown

   o draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-13  - IETF stream
     RTP Control Protocol(RTCP) Extended Report (XR) Block for Burst/Gap
     Discard metric Reporting (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Dan Romascanu (dromasca@avaya.com) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Gonzalo Camarillo
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Unknown

   o draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservation-04  - IETF stream
     Autonomous System (AS) Reservation for Private Use (Best Current
     Practice)
     Token: Stewart Bryant
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Unknown

   o draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-algo-signal-10  - IETF stream
     Signaling Cryptographic Algorithm Understanding in DNSSEC (Proposed
     Standard)
     Note: Patrik Faltstrom (paf@frobbit.se) is the Document Shepherd
     Token: Ted Lemon
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Unknown

   o draft-ietf-pcp-upnp-igd-interworking-08  - IETF stream
     Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) Internet Gateway Device (IGD)-Port
     Control Protocol (PCP) Interworking Function (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Dave Thaler (dthaler@microsoft.com) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Ted Lemon
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Unknown

2.1.2 Returning Items

   NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items

   NONE

2.2.2 Returning Items

   NONE

2.3 Status Changes
2.3.1 New Items

   NONE

2.3.2 Returning Items

   NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items

   o draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-metrics-rationale-03  - IETF stream
     Link Metrics for the Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Routing Protocol
     OLSRv2 - Rationale (Informational)
     Note: Stan Ratliff (sratliff@cisco.com) is the Document Shepherd.
     Token: Adrian Farrel
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Yes

   o draft-ietf-ospf-ipv4-embedded-ipv6-routing-11  - IETF stream
     Routing for IPv4-embedded IPv6 Packets (Informational)
     Note: Acee Lindem (acee.lindem@ericsson.com) is the document
     shepherd.
     Token: Stewart Bryant
     IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed
     Consensus: Unknown

3.1.2 Returning Items

   o draft-ietf-rmt-fcast-08  - IETF stream
     FCAST: Object Delivery for the ALC and NORM Protocols (Experimental)
     Note: Lorenzo Vicisano (lorenzo@vicisano.net) is the document
     shepherd.
     Token: Martin Stiemerling
     Consensus: Unknown

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items

   NONE

3.2.2 Returning Items

   NONE

3.3 Status Changes
3.3.1 New Items

   NONE

3.3.2 Returning Items

   NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.4.1 New Items

   NONE

3.4.2 Returning Items

   o conflict-review-touch-tcp-ao-nat-00
     IETF conflict review for draft-touch-tcp-ao-nat
       draft-touch-tcp-ao-nat-04
       A TCP Authentication Option NAT Extension (ISE: Experimental)
     Token: Martin Stiemerling

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

   NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

   o IMAP QRESYNC Extension (qresync)

4.2 WG Rechartering
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   o Forwarding and Control Element Separation (forces)

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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:38:14 +0200
From: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
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Dear all,

http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/dns.html now contains:

    When reviewing a specific draft, the review will be sent to the DNS 
    directorate mailing list (dns-dir@ietf.org
    <mailto:dns-dir@ietf.org>), to the draft authors, WG chairs, and
    respective AD. The way to reach the authors, WG chairs, and
    respective AD is to send an email to <draft-name>.all@tools.ietf.org
    <mailto:.all@tools.ietf.org>.


          Mailing list: dns-dir@ietf.org <mailto:dns-dir@ietf.org>

Regards, Benoit



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    Dear all,<br>
    <br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/dns.html">http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/dns.html</a> now contains:<br>
    <blockquote>
      <p> When reviewing a specific draft, the review will be sent to
        the DNS&nbsp; directorate mailing list (<a
          href="mailto:dns-dir@ietf.org">dns-dir@ietf.org</a>), to the
        draft authors, WG chairs, and respective AD. The way to reach
        the authors, WG chairs, and respective AD is to send an email to
        <a href="mailto:.all@tools.ietf.org">&lt;draft-name&gt;.all@tools.ietf.org</a>.</p>
      <h3>Mailing list: <a href="mailto:dns-dir@ietf.org">dns-dir@ietf.org</a></h3>
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    <p>Regards, Benoit<br>
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