From bclaise@cisco.com Fri Oct 4 00:06:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3063921F8984; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 00:06:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.528 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.528 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.071, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HylQaR+-0VKv; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 00:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A02A21F89A5; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 00:06:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=5872; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1380870381; x=1382079981; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zDyiVjLRO/kEnVVATaz5d04sKItouSWOpckBq9n8izY=; b=jwp6N5fqwCa5ojN26xyh8L+4nxXhkMs5JoZ3aq/dy6Xqy4jF+L6cKU6h fte69PNRZngUigx7pQ8/8dWCngRvi2mitENY4+/ctPhvzbrdSvj4dN0bu hMC7qFuDH9W5BAFnPG3NUF1TI5+xsdAIhyFwjduuJ9St8t+kR084jJXY0 c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUFAC9oTlKQ/khN/2dsb2JhbABRCYMHOMIagRcWdIImAQEEODAQESwWDwkDAgECAQ8sCgYBDAYCAQGHcAMPDLI6DYlrjGaBKYFJhCMDlhiBaYEvhQaGFIU2gWaBQDo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.90,1031,1371081600"; d="scan'208";a="160327471" Received: from ams-core-4.cisco.com ([144.254.72.77]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 04 Oct 2013 07:06:17 +0000 Received: from [10.60.67.85] (ams-bclaise-8914.cisco.com [10.60.67.85]) by ams-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r9476C4W024402; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 07:06:14 GMT Message-ID: <524E68E4.6060105@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 09:06:12 +0200 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "aaa-doctors@ietf.org" , "MIB Doctors (E-mail)" , YANG Doctors , "ops-dir@ietf.org" , "pm-dir@ietf.org" , IETF DNS Directorate References: <20131003222226.30291.40486.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20131003222226.30291.40486.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20131003222226.30291.40486.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [dns-dir] Fwd: [IESG-AGENDA-DIST] Summarized Agenda for the 2013-10-10 IESG Teleconference X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 07:06:35 -0000 Dear all, Please find below the agenda of the Oct 10th IESG telechat. Please send your questions, comments and concerns before Oct 9th COB. Thanks and Regards, Benoit. INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Summarized Agenda for the 2013-10-10 IESG Teleconference This agenda was generated at 2013-10-03 15:19:35 PDT Up-to-date web version of this agenda can be found at: http://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/agenda/ 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Items o draft-ietf-storm-iscsi-sam-09 - IETF stream Internet Small Computer Systems Interface (iSCSI) SCSI Features Update (Proposed Standard) Note: David Black (david.black@emc.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Martin Stiemerling IANA Review: IANA OK - Actions Needed Consensus: Yes o draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4244bis-11 - IETF stream An Extension to the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) for Request History Information (Proposed Standard) Note: Paul Kyzivat (pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu) is the document shepherd. Token: Richard Barnes IANA Review: IANA - Review Needed Consensus: Unknown o draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback-12 - IETF stream Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) Callback (Proposed Standard) Token: Richard Barnes IANA Review: IANA OK - Actions Needed Consensus: Unknown o draft-ietf-dhc-option-guidelines-14 - IETF stream Guidelines for Creating New DHCPv6 Options (Best Current Practice) Token: Ted Lemon IANA Review: IANA OK - No Actions Needed Consensus: Yes o draft-ietf-idr-rfd-usable-03 - IETF stream Making Route Flap Damping Usable (Proposed Standard) Token: Stewart Bryant IANA Review: IANA OK - No Actions Needed Consensus: Yes o draft-ietf-6man-ext-transmit-04 - IETF stream Transmission and Processing of IPv6 Extension Headers (Proposed Standard) Token: Brian Haberman IANA Review: IANA OK - Actions Needed Consensus: Yes 2.1.2 Returning Items NONE 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Items o draft-yusef-dispatch-ccmp-indication-06 - IETF stream Conference Focus Indicating CCMP Support (Proposed Standard) Token: Gonzalo Camarillo IANA Review: IANA OK - Actions Needed Consensus: Yes o draft-resnick-retire-std1-01 - IETF stream Retirement of the "Internet Official Protocol Standards" Summary Document (Best Current Practice) Token: Jari Arkko IANA Review: IANA OK - No Actions Needed Consensus: Yes 2.2.2 Returning Items NONE 2.3 Status Changes 2.3.1 New Items NONE 2.3.2 Returning Items NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Items o draft-ietf-hip-reload-instance-09 - IETF stream Host Identity Protocol-Based Overlay Networking Environment (HIP BONE) Instance Specification for REsource LOcation And Discovery (RELOAD) (Experimental) Token: Ted Lemon IANA Review: IANA OK - Actions Needed Consensus: Yes o draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-vpls-interop-05 - IETF stream VPLS Interoperability with Provider Backbone Bridges (Informational) Token: Stewart Bryant IANA Review: IANA OK - No Actions Needed Consensus: Unknown o draft-ietf-intarea-flow-label-balancing-01 - IETF stream Using the IPv6 Flow Label for Server Load Balancing (Informational) Token: Ted Lemon IANA Review: IANA OK - No Actions Needed Consensus: Yes o draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc4244bis-callflows-06 - IETF stream Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) History-Info Header Call Flow Examples (Informational) Token: Richard Barnes IANA Review: IANA OK - No Actions Needed Consensus: Unknown 3.1.2 Returning Items NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Items o draft-worley-service-example-14 - IETF stream Session Initiation Protocol Service Example -- Music on Hold (Informational) Note: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef (rifaat.sy@gmail.com) is the document shepherd. Token: Richard Barnes IANA Review: Version Changed - Review Needed Consensus: Unknown 3.2.2 Returning Items NONE 3.3 Status Changes 3.3.1 New Items NONE 3.3.2 Returning Items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents 3.4.1 New Items o conflict-review-hausenblas-csv-fragment-00 IETF conflict review for draft-hausenblas-csv-fragment draft-hausenblas-csv-fragment-05 URI Fragment Identifiers for the text/csv Media Type (ISE: Informational) Token: Barry Leiba o conflict-review-vandesompel-memento-00 IETF conflict review for draft-vandesompel-memento draft-vandesompel-memento-10 HTTP framework for time-based access to resource states -- Memento (ISE: Informational) Token: Barry Leiba 3.4.2 Returning Items NONE 3.4.3 For Action o conflict-review-hoffine-already-dotless-00 IETF conflict review for draft-hoffine-already-dotless draft-hoffine-already-dotless-04 Top-Level Domains that Are Already Dotless (ISE: Informational) Token: Joel Jaeggli 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o Source Packet Routing in Networking (spring) 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o IPv6 over Networks of Resource-constrained Nodes (6lo) o Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery (dnssd) 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval o MBONE Deployment (mboned) o INtermediary-safe SIP session ID (insipid) From Ted.Lemon@nominum.com Sat Oct 19 18:40:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6675611E8312 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 18:40:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.593 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.593 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.006, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T4iK1iGa-rQE for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 18:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og102.obsmtp.com (exprod7og102.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.157]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C5411E80FA for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 18:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell-too.nominum.com ([64.89.228.229]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob102.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUmM0g7FKrlkKbTUScSjWDoXIuc7/B+7x@postini.com; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 18:40:35 PDT Received: from archivist.nominum.com (archivist.nominum.com [64.89.228.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by shell-too.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3C51B82C3 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 18:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.nominum.com (cas-01.win.nominum.com [64.89.228.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by archivist.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AFF3190060; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 18:40:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ted.Lemon@nominum.com) Received: from [10.0.10.40] (192.168.1.10) by CAS-01.WIN.NOMINUM.COM (192.168.1.100) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 18:40:14 -0700 From: Ted Lemon Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 21:40:10 -0400 Message-ID: To: Brian Haberman MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1812\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1812) X-Originating-IP: [192.168.1.10] Cc: dns-dir@ietf.org Subject: [dns-dir] Add Joe Abley to the DNS Directorate? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 01:40:42 -0000 He's volunteered, and I'm inclined to accept his kind offer of = assistance. Any thoughts/objections? From paf@frobbit.se Sun Oct 20 00:27:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA90011E8353 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 00:27:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xAYKNX0Bs8AE for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 00:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.frobbit.se (mail.frobbit.se [IPv6:2a02:80:3ffe::176]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F03611E8351 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 00:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2a02:80:3ffc::a159:7ccf:94fe:dc55] (unknown [IPv6:2a02:80:3ffc:0:a159:7ccf:94fe:dc55]) by mail.frobbit.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EDB121FE2C; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:27:33 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_118D1556-321F-4E89-B689-39A40D0D6908"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:27:33 +0200 Message-Id: References: To: Ted Lemon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: dns-dir@ietf.org, Brian Haberman Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Add Joe Abley to the DNS Directorate? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 07:27:37 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_118D1556-321F-4E89-B689-39A40D0D6908 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 20 okt 2013, at 03:40, Ted Lemon wrote: > He's volunteered, and I'm inclined to accept his kind offer of = assistance. Any thoughts/objections? No objection. paf --Apple-Mail=_118D1556-321F-4E89-B689-39A40D0D6908 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iD8DBQFSY4XlrMabGguI180RAmMrAJwNIiFYa9p/RWurqjGhxBiOOQtJzgCeKfzj 7umei5hEUvhWzdpzAoZE3sM= =Uvv8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_118D1556-321F-4E89-B689-39A40D0D6908-- From rdroms.ietf@gmail.com Sun Oct 20 08:09:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE81F11E840E for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 08:09:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kg5YVCZ80xKm for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 08:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pa0-x230.google.com (mail-pa0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7022211E8406 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 08:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id bj1so6753414pad.7 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 08:09:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=15OUlIWvrn8WckhV4vQKVq4ylpbs/lnwFr/uHu1uEaQ=; b=hCH5KoF0hKLbTBpjBCQ4N9ZV7awYAlV20lzyRtrYvmKES/bzJN8dQuIWunm2/yTQpQ HhtZzVUGBuuRYM9BigbbDHdqykTMXi3KciGKtxvfW9zHyccVSAB92tn+FzL4qwexOQRW ZQ0FN/wsUhVGW+LnsWdasJ8u8wvzp+m1XhpUkdsH6Am14aykkpZEsOzAql3dEorC3hzD idpqNMFtEaMi0BASAb9/Iu59TM9RvovTMlCv4LZpgRr7khSf6ZlEv5tKOtTknsFdzeHq 51o8OZ6w0L9vBaRDOmaRvds+nf9xx1O6KE3yGbhABRB3yH3Tn667H2XM7LKF9TnMTdcT 1+BQ== X-Received: by 10.66.142.193 with SMTP id ry1mr1629780pab.150.1382281778141; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 08:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjc-vpn5-1091.cisco.com (128-107-239-233.cisco.com. [128.107.239.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id oj6sm19018361pab.9.2013.10.20.08.09.34 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 20 Oct 2013 08:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) From: Ralph Droms In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 08:09:33 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <22C31871-3E0C-4F7C-BB96-38F3A271714F@gmail.com> References: To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: Lemon Ted , Haberman Brian , "dns-dir@ietf.org Directorate DNS" Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Add Joe Abley to the DNS Directorate? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:09:38 -0000 On Oct 20, 2013, at 12:27 AM 10/20/13, Patrik F=E4ltstr=F6m = wrote: >=20 > On 20 okt 2013, at 03:40, Ted Lemon wrote: >=20 >> He's volunteered, and I'm inclined to accept his kind offer of = assistance. Any thoughts/objections? >=20 > No objection. OK with me, too. - Ralph >=20 > paf >=20 > _______________________________________________ > dns-dir mailing list > dns-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir From ajs@anvilwalrusden.com Sun Oct 20 15:20:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACD911E82B8 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:20:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.84 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.84 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_INFO=1.448, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JYr1I7PRQfHQ for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.yitter.info (ow5p.x.rootbsd.net [208.79.81.114]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE2311E82A2 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.yitter.info (unknown [103.14.185.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D6CD58A031 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 22:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 18:20:36 -0400 From: Andrew Sullivan To: dns-dir@ietf.org Message-ID: <20131020222035.GB6462@mx1.yitter.info> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Add Joe Abley to the DNS Directorate? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 22:20:43 -0000 No objection here. There was previous resistance to another volunteer, IIRC, on the basis of, "We don't know what we're doing." While that's true, I wonder whether having some more engaged participants mightn't help the state of affairs. Best, A On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 09:40:10PM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote: > He's volunteered, and I'm inclined to accept his kind offer of assistance. Any thoughts/objections? > > _______________________________________________ > dns-dir mailing list > dns-dir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dns-dir -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com From paf@frobbit.se Sun Oct 20 19:35:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E7811E810C for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:35:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ylBkWRcYjrSx for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.frobbit.se (mail.frobbit.se [IPv6:2a02:80:3ffe::176]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A637B11E811D for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2a02:80:3ffc::3579:eaa7:5638:3a82] (unknown [IPv6:2a02:80:3ffc:0:3579:eaa7:5638:3a82]) by mail.frobbit.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 928981FD46; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 04:35:44 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A39636CB-992C-4FDB-B29C-D2A283055964"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Patrik_F=E4ltstr=F6m?= In-Reply-To: <20131020222035.GB6462@mx1.yitter.info> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 04:35:44 +0200 Message-Id: References: <20131020222035.GB6462@mx1.yitter.info> To: Andrew Sullivan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: dns-dir@ietf.org Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Add Joe Abley to the DNS Directorate? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:35:59 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_A39636CB-992C-4FDB-B29C-D2A283055964 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 21 okt 2013, at 00:20, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > While that's true, I wonder > whether having some more engaged participants mightn't help the state > of affairs. This is why I (as a passive participant) feel new blood might not be bad. paf --Apple-Mail=_A39636CB-992C-4FDB-B29C-D2A283055964 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iD8DBQFSZJMArMabGguI180RAuyXAKCN43qcx4kzQfahs8gIZ58nLulIiwCfUYnE 9YPrF2FO9S2ONOcDLjxkhlY= =S41j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_A39636CB-992C-4FDB-B29C-D2A283055964-- From sra@hactrn.net Sun Oct 20 19:47:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCB311E8320 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:47:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TrUrznY9cxLx for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyteen.hactrn.net (cyteen.hactrn.net [66.92.66.68]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E8F11E8455 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thrintun.hactrn.net (thrintun.hactrn.net [10.0.1.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "thrintun.hactrn.net", Issuer "Grunchweather Associates" (verified OK)) by cyteen.hactrn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0898073046 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thrintun.hactrn.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by thrintun.hactrn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC8917441 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 22:47:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 22:47:33 -0400 From: Rob Austein To: dns-dir@ietf.org In-Reply-To: References: <20131020222035.GB6462@mx1.yitter.info> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/23.4 Mule/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20131021024733.CFC8917441@thrintun.hactrn.net> Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Add Joe Abley to the DNS Directorate? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:47:58 -0000 At Mon, 21 Oct 2013 04:35:44 +0200, Patrik Faltstrom wrote: > On 21 okt 2013, at 00:20, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > > > While that's true, I wonder > > whether having some more engaged participants mightn't help the state > > of affairs. > > This is why I (as a passive participant) feel new blood might not be bad. +1 :) From olaf@NLnetLabs.nl Mon Oct 21 00:46:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: dns-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3A611E834C for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:46:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jQ4f2h0kNx1a for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from open.nlnetlabs.nl (open.nlnetlabs.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4DE21F9FB7 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-64.nlnetlabs.nl (dhcp-64.nlnetlabs.nl [213.154.224.64]) (authenticated bits=0) by open.nlnetlabs.nl (8.14.7/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9L7jvbO008609 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:46:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olaf@NLnetLabs.nl) Authentication-Results: open.nlnetlabs.nl; dmarc=none header.from=NLnetLabs.nl DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 open.nlnetlabs.nl r9L7jvbO008609 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=nlnetlabs.nl; s=default; t=1382341562; bh=l3RiebBNpwOsmtxwMLq4UU5Idy9BRvRpLeT5jSExES4=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=Bm3ficud9F/qOIEmGXd021PFa3usS2Xqd/EiahrauHFpTtnrJKFWWBK+8gMesi+wa abFZbOvGK2TuESnj9OA1fpfepN31QH4udZDfICCJHNCnBHJ+TBN2wnclToRcybH/bu PvpVyW4p/RbMX1nw+AHvxeQeYsngBC2owzJ1HlVk= Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_906B7073-9D39-4718-98CD-D17244A114DC"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1812\)) From: Olaf Kolkman In-Reply-To: <20131021024733.CFC8917441@thrintun.hactrn.net> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:45:57 +0200 Message-Id: <34285337-E208-4434-A48B-B30E68ECC48F@NLnetLabs.nl> References: <20131020222035.GB6462@mx1.yitter.info> <20131021024733.CFC8917441@thrintun.hactrn.net> To: Rob Austein X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1812) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (open.nlnetlabs.nl [213.154.224.1]); Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:46:01 +0200 (CEST) Cc: IETF DNS Directorate Subject: Re: [dns-dir] Add Joe Abley to the DNS Directorate? X-BeenThere: dns-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNS directorate discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:46:10 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_906B7073-9D39-4718-98CD-D17244A114DC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On 21 okt. 2013, at 04:47, Rob Austein wrote: > At Mon, 21 Oct 2013 04:35:44 +0200, Patrik Faltstrom wrote: >> On 21 okt 2013, at 00:20, Andrew Sullivan = wrote: >>=20 >>> While that's true, I wonder >>> whether having some more engaged participants mightn't help the = state >>> of affairs. >>=20 >> This is why I (as a passive participant) feel new blood might not be = bad. >=20 > +1 :) This is where one delurks and shows ones active participation by =85 +1 ;-) =97Olaf --Apple-Mail=_906B7073-9D39-4718-98CD-D17244A114DC Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIFqDCCBaQw ggOMoAMCAQICAw31zjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADB5MRAwDgYDVQQKEwdSb290IENBMR4wHAYDVQQL ExVodHRwOi8vd3d3LmNhY2VydC5vcmcxIjAgBgNVBAMTGUNBIENlcnQgU2lnbmluZyBBdXRob3Jp dHkxITAfBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEnN1cHBvcnRAY2FjZXJ0Lm9yZzAeFw0xMzEwMTgxNjI5MDlaFw0x NTEwMTgxNjI5MDlaMFsxGDAWBgNVBAMTD0NBY2VydCBXb1QgVXNlcjEdMBsGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYO b2xhZkBkYWNodC5uZXQxIDAeBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEW9sYWZAbmxuZXRsYWJzLm5sMIIBIjANBgkq hkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAu9+4/QDUSUBbyo9F/2AdyNMy3AAKxCDo0yS+oZcEB6kP jXJ4nbGVg9D/FPs9Ptc7v7U3SQJyFW1MoaW3LYHrosrN4QttWF71F72sbQbiLu21COYzGnjqaW9W 3dyB64BUV6z7iBNtfXrCvR6haG4rycrjXK3miN3QqA/NFgfx3PlKHghpxoxslB4eEIBwG/9m/P+n mwciLj2HQvyuYVNi8GYbt1SIM/Pu2zcokMGFGqvZ1OetE/PJnXW4DcE9ZWweCVPMGfIzim6ztB87 4b/XmeXWjtvsMEPhFAxTLcbzzyqk4/lnvoV+jdfSR0q+G2su5WjtYPSpH1MgYWN9jl8wrQIDAQAB o4IBUTCCAU0wDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADBWBglghkgBhvhCAQ0ESRZHVG8gZ2V0IHlvdXIgb3duIGNl cnRpZmljYXRlIGZvciBGUkVFIGhlYWQgb3ZlciB0byBodHRwOi8vd3d3LkNBY2VydC5vcmcwDgYD VR0PAQH/BAQDAgOoMEAGA1UdJQQ5MDcGCCsGAQUFBwMEBggrBgEFBQcDAgYKKwYBBAGCNwoDBAYK KwYBBAGCNwoDAwYJYIZIAYb4QgQBMDIGCCsGAQUFBwEBBCYwJDAiBggrBgEFBQcwAYYWaHR0cDov L29jc3AuY2FjZXJ0Lm9yZzAxBgNVHR8EKjAoMCagJKAihiBodHRwOi8vY3JsLmNhY2VydC5vcmcv cmV2b2tlLmNybDAsBgNVHREEJTAjgQ5vbGFmQGRhY2h0Lm5ldIERb2xhZkBubG5ldGxhYnMubmww DQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADggIBABm1z5vFI98rk8ZQU4niqnjxvQOa6wyPm+BmUyYWDG2KjJVm4Q2I zXsFwVjidyJxSvWAQTNXLMb8Ixavdia5pIDDDmw/inbuiYw0rBeDUEwVbisGlNAZs6r8OUVojVze S+ZdvV6sMTQlktzWAcSDP/lHaSJ9bZK8fucy9js1l1fODhzkJL2qjIxSa4dcih/q4l2g69dMXvud 4a0auQDQx+f/zN0U/UYQWdKmg4+6jL4zR9AdKoRW6O9GBAkrnEAD0Z5SSJiteIIMv9dEEtEQ4aQI uDajvgk+F2NLmwG7swj94pbtFRQR2f1A/NQL/vTQDiWsiFK1rmQwY0hs3IraHNROqWH6ZJ1H/GtD OsyBYKzTFUF0T0X8YNR2lQWTbvgqapu+3Urw9bkRhbsyu3emIvVi2y5bcF6eL3ilVOKvFba+vnZa QZUl4/9nXmJ2Xf6vOTZEojDBV15MZqLFw+OoEbStpT9mt9WaRd5ZI5cwZFvOwJJGoe2lsdJsiF+e 8AXB79FGmWQUZVXAl2IkNLiDwJaREGz2umK2LDNOnOCHuiUXCiFHHg/B/nmOTglF0ZORDv0vOGKl sv4vBdPT1c5GW/tngD/IVzt0fvh4/YM4W/hx7JQDnkGuIaQsLpVlVY9X94huHVjwRsA2PIvo1KS7 3TSCiCjtHn43RMp6Ba8o6HSXMYIDMzCCAy8CAQEwgYAweTEQMA4GA1UEChMHUm9vdCBDQTEeMBwG A1UECxMVaHR0cDovL3d3dy5jYWNlcnQub3JnMSIwIAYDVQQDExlDQSBDZXJ0IFNpZ25pbmcgQXV0 aG9yaXR5MSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJzdXBwb3J0QGNhY2VydC5vcmcCAw31zjAJBgUrDgMCGgUA oIIBhzAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEPFw0xMzEwMjEwNzQ1 NTdaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBTFf/E+fDD4cdYUEBvL6/pfMY2jTzCBkQYJKwYBBAGCNxAEMYGD MIGAMHkxEDAOBgNVBAoTB1Jvb3QgQ0ExHjAcBgNVBAsTFWh0dHA6Ly93d3cuY2FjZXJ0Lm9yZzEi MCAGA1UEAxMZQ0EgQ2VydCBTaWduaW5nIEF1dGhvcml0eTEhMB8GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYSc3VwcG9y dEBjYWNlcnQub3JnAgMN9c4wgZMGCyqGSIb3DQEJEAILMYGDoIGAMHkxEDAOBgNVBAoTB1Jvb3Qg Q0ExHjAcBgNVBAsTFWh0dHA6Ly93d3cuY2FjZXJ0Lm9yZzEiMCAGA1UEAxMZQ0EgQ2VydCBTaWdu aW5nIEF1dGhvcml0eTEhMB8GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYSc3VwcG9ydEBjYWNlcnQub3JnAgMN9c4wDQYJ KoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEggEAAU0dIFpRcEZ77/sViIWmReYeDv3DzPz7nfAxgunl8XAPDO3BD2niMhLL FtqIrUZ+3YfVA5xny/bZmQ8VxDEjaMdvV10hZ8xx2pdRUbaKt5aIqeDmNBbRjPewYq2Hq/gJFZDU ub0RaXj1Jqv5ggAhj3e77E617zPLf+EFUwxeqK5sxJRzgSf9WU+ZGkLHO7eKW+LvzFBGTi4nbLrF pgBq7mFYt0ZbGHZi8khKy9YSdZyiBpuB55iU1CRCyb13CMlreuEbAH5f8vLqs+adH1UIcjE1xzx4 KAP4fkLRI/EeHzMbucoHiI3ZWdEEauWBgf338qYSbXNRdhYynLgkC7HyvwAAAAAAAA== --Apple-Mail=_906B7073-9D39-4718-98CD-D17244A114DC--