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------=_NextPart_000_0D37_01C86CA2.311AA270-- --===============1111936179== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum --===============1111936179==-- From enum-bounces@ietf.org Wed Feb 13 16:30:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96733A6FFA; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:30:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.591 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.591 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TpTKsnZ6ghrr; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:30:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8123A7001; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:30:04 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@ietf.org Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id C87C03A6FFA; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:30:01 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Message-Id: <20080214003001.C87C03A6FFA@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:30:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] I-D Action:draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-02.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working Group of the IETF. Title : The E.164 to Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI) Dynamic Delegation Discovery System (DDDS) Application (ENUM) Author(s) : S. Bradner, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-02.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2008-02-13 This document discusses the use of the Domain Name System (DNS) for the storage of E.164 numbers, and for resolving them into URIs that can be used for (for example) telephony call setup. This document also describes how the DNS can be used to identify the services associated with an E.164 number. This document obsoletes RFC 3761. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-02.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-02.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-02.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-02-13162455.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-02.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-02.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-02-13162455.I-D\@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum --NextPart-- From enum-bounces@ietf.org Thu Feb 14 04:15:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE2628CDF7; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:15:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dxh5vavSA+mQ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:15:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B4A28CE6C; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:15:03 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@ietf.org Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id C003328CE56; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:15:01 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Message-Id: <20080214121501.C003328CE56@core3.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:15:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] I-D Action:draft-ietf-enum-experiences-09.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working Group of the IETF. Title : ENUM Implementation Issues and Experiences Author(s) : L. Conroy, K. Fujiwara Filename : draft-ietf-enum-experiences-09.txt Pages : 33 Date : 2008-02-14 This document captures experience in implementing systems based on the ENUM protocol, and experience of ENUM data that have been created by others. As such, it clarifies the ENUM and DDDS standards. Its aim is to help others by reporting what is "out there" and the potential pitfalls in interpreting the set of documents that specify the protocol. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-experiences-09.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-enum-experiences-09.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-experiences-09.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-02-14041316.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-experiences-09.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-enum-experiences-09.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-02-14041316.I-D\@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum --NextPart-- From enum-bounces@ietf.org Thu Feb 14 04:30:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1232528CEF4; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:30:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.158 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.158 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.721, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pRtqBazEozFD; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:30:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B59528CEAF; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:30:57 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968C928CEA9 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:30:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Wig0uWYxb-N for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from insensate.co.uk (norman.insensate.co.uk [213.152.49.123]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B9328CEB2 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:29:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (norman.insensate.co.uk [213.152.49.123]) by insensate.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FD97CBA6 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:31:05 +0000 (GMT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <20080214121501.C003328CE56@core3.amsl.com> References: <20080214121501.C003328CE56@core3.amsl.com> Message-Id: <9C6B0DC6-A4B2-4862-9DC0-88191275F36B@insensate.co.uk> From: lconroy Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:31:04 +0000 To: enum WG X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Subject: Re: [Enum] I-D Action:draft-ietf-enum-experiences-09.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Hi Folks, Here's the next version of Experiences for your edification. See This version reflects comments from the GEN-ART review, the AD's review (for both of which, many thanks), and comments received during the IETF Last Call (for which also, many thanks). IMHO, it's ready to roll. all the best, Lawrence On 14 Feb 2008, at 12:15, Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working > Group of the IETF. > > > Title : ENUM Implementation Issues and Experiences > Author(s) : L. Conroy, K. Fujiwara > Filename : draft-ietf-enum-experiences-09.txt > Pages : 33 > Date : 2008-02-14 > > This document captures experience in implementing systems based on > the ENUM protocol, and experience of ENUM data that have been created > by others. As such, it clarifies the ENUM and DDDS standards. Its > aim is to help others by reporting what is "out there" and the > potential pitfalls in interpreting the set of documents that specify > the protocol. _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Fri Feb 15 07:14:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0D73A6ACA; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:14:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.163, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F41ffRhn2YyJ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:14:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998E228CF05; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:14:50 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3A828CF14 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:14:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id efPX3ifrWcaU for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:14:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.songbird.com (mail.songbird.com [208.184.79.10]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA933A6ACA for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:13:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from rshockeyPC (h-68-165-240-35.mclnva23.covad.net [68.165.240.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1FFEYsB008088 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:14:40 -0800 From: "Richard Shockey" To: Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:13:33 -0500 Message-ID: <0a1101c86fe5$5a269110$0e73b330$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AchvrzWkbjBoMNLyRMu+KykPvyboEQANhWXA Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Enum] FW: I-D Action:draft-elwell-sip-e164-problem-statement-00.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org FYI -----Original Message----- From: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:45 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action:draft-elwell-sip-e164-problem-statement-00.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : SIP E.164 Problem Statement Author(s) : J. Elwell Filename : draft-elwell-sip-e164-problem-statement-00.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2008-02-15 SIP has long supported the use of both email-style addresses (user@host) and telephone-style addresses (number@host) in the "From:" address. A significant number of SIP deployments use the latter style with E.164 numbers. This document describes the problems that occur when such E.164 numbers are used in SIP. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-elwell-sip-e164-problem-statement- 00.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Fri Feb 15 08:44:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCDC28D29B; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:44:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.653 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.653 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.216, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U7D57IfI0dEJ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:44:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EF628D261; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:44:52 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9E828CE14 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:44:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vob8O4BjlYfp for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:44:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from medel.switch.ch (medel.switch.ch [130.59.108.39]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDC128D2A9 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:44:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.59.6.129] (helo=machb.switch.ch) by medel.switch.ch with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JQ3hI-0001Ix-El for enum@ietf.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:46:00 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:45:26 +0100 (CET) From: Bernie Hoeneisen X-X-Sender: bhoeneis@machb To: enum@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20080214003001.C87C03A6FFA@core3.amsl.com> Message-ID: References: <20080214003001.C87C03A6FFA@core3.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SWITCH-SCANNER: bypassed Subject: [Enum] Feedback to draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-02.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Dear Authors of RFC3761bis I briefly went through the I-D and can provide you with the following feedback: * Add "Obsoletes RFC 3761" to the header of the I-D * ABNF You have extended the ABNF for type and subtype by a dash "-" character. type = 1*32(ALPHA / DIGIT / "-") subtype = 1*32(ALPHA / DIGIT / "-") I guess the intension was to allow the "X-", which was somewhat inconsistent in RFC 3761. Do you intend to allow "-" everywhere in the Type and Subtype strings? I'd rather restrict it to "-" only as the 2nd character and only if the prefix containing a "-" as 2nd charater is defined/described in an RFC. This could be reached by: - Write some text to permit "-" only as 2nd character, and/or - Restrict this in the ABNF such as [sub]type = ALPHA (ALPHA / DIGIT / "-" ) 1*30 ( ALPHA / DIGIT ) Note: This proposal would also disallow a digit as the 1st character. What do you think about? cheers, Bernie _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Fri Feb 15 09:18:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1872328D1CE; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:18:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.978 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.978 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.540, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ud4SnshkkDkF; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:18:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197B73A6B0E; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:18:32 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4D63A6AFC for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:18:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ufEff0lksE+K for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:18:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from insensate.co.uk (norman.insensate.co.uk [213.152.49.123]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A993A6AF6 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:18:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (norman.insensate.co.uk [213.152.49.123]) by insensate.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B8D7D10B; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:19:50 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: References: <20080214003001.C87C03A6FFA@core3.amsl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Message-Id: From: lconroy Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:19:40 +0000 To: Bernie Hoeneisen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Enum] Feedback to draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-02.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Hi Bernie, folks, As I understand it, it will obsolete RFC 3761 when it's an RFC, but this draft doesn't obsolete anything. The author of RFC 2026 is familiar with this draft, so could give you the gory details :). The ABNF addition in this form is my fault. It would be possible to have an Enumservice with a sub-type reflecting a URI scheme which itself had a "-". I don't say it's a good idea to define a URI scheme this way (or to have a sub-type string that matches such a URI scheme), but it is legal => '-' needs to be available in both type and subtype definitions. While making the change to permit "X-foo", I realised that it might be useful to allow some kind of punctuation in the service name to make it clearer - thus one could imagine something like "real-time-text" as a service type. I believe that this is a reasonable choice. Why not? I looked at discouraging Enumservice definitions that are runs of punctuation, or digits, or something like that. That is NOT easy in ABNF (if possible), and again, why not, as long as it is unique? The registration doc should/does suggest that someone gives a useful Enumservice type name, but that is "not so much a law, more a kind of guideline". ---- Finally, why *require* an RFC for "X-foo"? Personally, I would prefer it if some kind of RFC (including experimental or Informational) was required for Enumservices that did NOT start "X-". In the last ENUM meeting folk said that a simple notification to IANA with a partially populated template would be enough. That is OK-ish, as long as it is CLEAR whether the IETF has seen this spec and it at least has a fully detailed template, or instead it has come out of the blue/IPv16 world (in which case it MUST start "X-"). all the best, Lawrence On 15 Feb 2008, at 16:45, Bernie Hoeneisen wrote: > Dear Authors of RFC3761bis > > I briefly went through the I-D and can provide you with the following > feedback: > > > * Add "Obsoletes RFC 3761" to the header of the I-D > > > * ABNF > > You have extended the ABNF for type and subtype by a dash "-" > character. > > type = 1*32(ALPHA / DIGIT / "-") > subtype = 1*32(ALPHA / DIGIT / "-") > > I guess the intension was to allow the "X-", which was somewhat > inconsistent in RFC 3761. > > Do you intend to allow "-" everywhere in the Type and Subtype strings? > > I'd rather restrict it to "-" only as the 2nd character and only if > the > prefix containing a "-" as 2nd charater is defined/described in an > RFC. > > This could be reached by: > > - Write some text to permit "-" only as 2nd character, and/or > - Restrict this in the ABNF such as > > [sub]type = ALPHA (ALPHA / DIGIT / "-" ) 1*30 ( ALPHA / DIGIT ) > > Note: This proposal would also disallow a digit as the 1st > character. > > > What do you think about? > > cheers, > Bernie > _______________________________________________ > enum mailing list > enum@ietf.org > http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Fri Feb 15 09:38:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C67328D2DD; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:38:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.557 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.557 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.120, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iIiMdwL-pyc5; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:38:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9A628D2B8; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:38:42 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC1F28D233 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:38:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T6sln-+a2qcY for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:38:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from medel.switch.ch (medel.switch.ch [130.59.108.39]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B096728D2A1 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:38:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.59.6.129] (helo=machb.switch.ch) by medel.switch.ch with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JQ4XY-0004iP-3i; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:40:00 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:39:25 +0100 (CET) From: Bernie Hoeneisen X-X-Sender: bhoeneis@machb To: lconroy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20080214003001.C87C03A6FFA@core3.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SWITCH-SCANNER: bypassed Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Enum] Feedback to draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-02.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Hi Lawrence On Fri, 15 Feb 2008, lconroy wrote: > As I understand it, it will obsolete RFC 3761 when it's an RFC, > but this draft doesn't obsolete anything. The author of RFC 2026 is > familiar with this draft, so could give you the gory details :). xml2rfc produces the following header: Obsoletes: 3761 (if approved) > Finally, why *require* an RFC for "X-foo"? This is not what I meant. I suggested that any prefix containing a "-" as a 2nd character (e.g. X-, P-, A-, Z-, ...) needs to be documented in an RFC (to allow the prefix to be used as type or subtype in Enumservice Registrations). The registration itself would still be just "specification required". cheers, Bernie _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Fri Feb 15 13:04:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C91A28C478; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:04:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.368 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.368 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.931, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1twg1Bg2Uz4s; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:04:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CD728C345; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:04:53 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970EB28C23A; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:04:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6j4+d2Oxqem0; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.songbird.com (mail.songbird.com [208.184.79.10]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2CA28C36A; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:04:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rshockeyPC (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1FL5HII018763 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:05:18 -0800 From: "Richard Shockey" To: , Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:04:17 -0500 Message-ID: <044701c87016$54d53730$fe7fa590$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0448_01C86FEC.6BFF2F30" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AchwE8RL6LwRC/DwTvOgLdJ7FGVJXwAAoZXw Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Enum] FW: I-D Action:draft-rosenberg-sipping-siptrunk-00.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0448_01C86FEC.6BFF2F30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:45 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action:draft-rosenberg-sipping-siptrunk-00.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : What is a Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Trunk Anyway? Author(s) : J. Rosenberg Filename : draft-rosenberg-sipping-siptrunk-00.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2008-02-15 The term "Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Trunk" has become almost commonplace amongst vendors and SIP providers. Even though the notion of a 'trunk' has a well defined meaning in circuit switched systems, it has never been defined for SIP. This document provides a formal definition for a SIP trunk, discusses its scope and applications, and establishes best practices for identification and security of SIP trunks. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-sipping-siptrunk-00.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. 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Bradner) Subject: Re: [Enum] Feedback to draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-02.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org > Add "Obsoletes RFC 3761" to the header of the I-D it should have said that in the header & in the body tnx Scott _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Sun Feb 17 18:17:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CCC3A6C46; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:17:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.388 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.388 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.951, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mnw0RX0aajbL; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:17:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DAB3A6C2F; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:17:21 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DDA3A6C2D; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:17:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gJ2cFRSlow+O; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:17:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.songbird.com (mail.songbird.com [208.184.79.10]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9E03A6C29; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:17:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rshockeyPC (h-68-165-240-35.mclnva23.covad.net [68.165.240.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1I2GJDe014879 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:16:21 -0800 From: "Richard Shockey" To: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:15:13 -0500 Message-ID: <003a01c871d4$198e9800$4cabc800$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Achwyp2b3FWwr9y9Edy9QwAUURi4IgBCWxpw Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us Cc: PEPPERMINT@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] FW: Correction: Internet-Drafts Submission Cutoff Deadline for the 71st IETF Meeting in Philadelphia, PA, USA X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org -----Original Message----- From: ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexa Morris Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:35 PM To: ietf-announce@ietf.org Subject: Correction: Internet-Drafts Submission Cutoff Deadline for the 71st IETF Meeting in Philadelphia, PA, USA On February 1st, an automated email reminder went to everyone on this email list that contained incorrect deadline information for Internet-Draft submissions. 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Kind regards, Alexa Morris ----------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com _______________________________________________ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Mon Feb 18 13:49:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5248728C364; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:49:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.259 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.259 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.822, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 253yTWBuq0w2; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:49:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5691328C42A; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:49:02 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BBD3A6B47 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:49:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bfom5fENZ2DK for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:48:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.songbird.com (mail.songbird.com [208.184.79.10]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3313A6978 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:48:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from rshockeyPC (h-68-165-240-35.mclnva23.covad.net [68.165.240.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1ILm0xc016396 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:48:02 -0800 From: "Richard Shockey" To: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:46:47 -0500 Message-ID: <127f01c87277$c61615f0$524241d0$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1280_01C8724D.DD400DF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Achyc4nfXvXCP0gDQ8OE7W9q3IsbsQABC0Ow Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us Subject: [Enum] FW: I-D Action:draft-schwartz-sip-e164-ownership-00.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1280_01C8724D.DD400DF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fyi -----Original Message----- From: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:15 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action:draft-schwartz-sip-e164-ownership-00.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : E.164 Ownership Problem Statement Author(s) : D. Schwartz, et al. Filename : draft-schwartz-sip-e164-ownership-00.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2008-02-18 When a call travels end-to-end relayed from the PSTN to SIP then problems occur with E.164 number ownership. Additionally, there are security challenges when the PSTN-VoIP gateway has to authenticate and authorize the calling party. Without addressing these two aspects the overall security story is weak or non-existent. This document aims to investigate these two aspect; it does, however, not investigate current E.164 number handling with RFC 4474 ("SIP Identity"). Such an analysis is provided by other documents already. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schwartz-sip-e164-ownership-00.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. ------=_NextPart_000_1280_01C8724D.DD400DF0 Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="ATT04509.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT04509.dat" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-02-18131014.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-schwartz-sip-e164-ownership-00.txt ------=_NextPart_000_1280_01C8724D.DD400DF0 Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-schwartz-sip-e164-ownership-00.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="draft-schwartz-sip-e164-ownership-00.txt" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-02-18131014.I-D\@ietf.org> ------=_NextPart_000_1280_01C8724D.DD400DF0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ATT04512.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT04512.txt" _______________________________________________ I-D-Announce mailing list I-D-Announce@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce ------=_NextPart_000_1280_01C8724D.DD400DF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum ------=_NextPart_000_1280_01C8724D.DD400DF0-- From enum-bounces@ietf.org Mon Feb 18 14:23:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24AF28C554; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:23:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.247 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.247 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.810, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mbSl2+KEzp9r; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0E728C342; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:20:09 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A48628C342 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:20:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kbw5AcOBMT0u for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.songbird.com (mail.songbird.com [208.184.79.10]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274983A6DDF for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:19:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rshockeyPC (h-68-165-240-35.mclnva23.covad.net [68.165.240.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1IMIG0q010717 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:18:17 -0800 From: "Richard Shockey" To: References: <47B9125B.2060104@cisco.com> <47B99B39.6040105@cisco.com> <47B9DE39.60608@cisco.com> <5FB585F183235B42A9E70095055136FB79857A@DEMUEXC012.nsn-intra.net> In-Reply-To: <5FB585F183235B42A9E70095055136FB79857A@DEMUEXC012.nsn-intra.net> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:17:02 -0500 Message-ID: <134601c8727b$fe3d4030$fab7c090$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AchyZulElgl5PP+qQYG8DvAYAxoq4AAABmmgAAU2GJA= Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us Subject: Re: [Enum] [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org FYI from the SIP list... > -----Original Message----- > From: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 2:55 PM > To: ext Jonathan Rosenberg; Paul Kyzivat > Cc: IETF SIP List > Subject: Re: [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers > = > Hi Jonathan, > Hi Paul, > = > thanks for raising the aspect of E.164 and ENUM usage. There was an > offline discussion between Dan Wing, Klaus Darilion, Kai Fischer, > David Schwartz, Hadriel Kaplan, John Elwell, and myself about E.164 > and SIP Identity. As part of the discussion Klaus and I polished a > former document of Alexander Mayrhofer on the usage of ENUM for E.164 > numbers (see draft-mayrhofer-enum-domainkeys-00). As we moved along > with the work we obviously came across a couple of problems (as one > can easily imagine) and the document triggered a long discussion among > us. Dispite a couple of challenges, we published the document today > (see http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-darilion-sip-e164-enum- > 00.txt). I learned a lot while working on that document. > = > In addition to publishing the document a few of us have also worked on > a document that captures some of our discussion on E.164 number > ownership. I will publish it very soon -- just a bit more proof- > reading. > = > Ciao > Hannes > = > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org] Im > > Auftrag von ext Jonathan Rosenberg > > Gesendet: Montag, 18. Februar 2008 21:36 > > An: Paul Kyzivat > > Cc: IETF SIP List > > Betreff: Re: [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers > > > > I agree that something along the lines of enum could solve > > this problem, > > and I believe there was a draft that proposed such a thing. This has > > been discussed since the start of rfc4474. > > > > However, I fear that saying, 'use enum' is kind of like saying, > we'll > > just use an All-Knowing Oracle, so lets figure out the interface > > protocol to the Oracle. The easy part is the interface (the enum > > mechanism). The actual hard problem is how to get those entries > > populated. The deployment of public enum has been - shall we > > say - less > > than spectacular. I'd hate for that to be our only solution. Not > that > > its obvious what else to do; though I do suggest in my draft > > how domain > > based authentication, when combined with whitelists and > > blacklists, can > > help. > > > > -Jonathan R. > > > > Paul Kyzivat wrote: > > > Jonathan, > > > > > > I guess the time has come for this discussion, since John > > Ewell has also > > > submitted a draft on this subject. > > > > > > I thought the problem was already well known, but perhaps > > not. IMO the > > > main thing now is to figure out the *solution* to the problem! > > > IMO a solution is to use a 4474-style approach, but where the > > > certificate is tied to just the phone number, not to some > arbitrary > > > domain name. That of course would depend on a model where > > the "owner" of > > > the phone number is the one who may obtain the certificate > > for that number. > > > > > > My thought is that we already have an algorithmic mapping > > from an E.164 > > > phone number to a domain name, defined by enum. If the > > sender puts an > > > E.164 number in From, and can sign it with a cert for the > > enum mapped > > > domain name corresponding to that number, then that ought > > to be valid > > > proof of the validity of the sender. > > > > > > In those places where public enum is in operation, I think there > is > > > already a legal mechanism in place to give the owner of record of > a > > > particular phone number control over the contents of the > > corresponding > > > DNS entry. That should also be sufficient to allow a certificate > > > authority to assign a cert to that same owner. > > > > > > Combine all that and you have a complete e2e identity model > > for phone > > > numbers, based on public enum. And that can be true even if > > public enum > > > isn't used to *route* the calls to that number. So it could > > be used for > > > "unlisted" numbers. > > > > > > To use this approach the From header should contain either > > a TEL URI, or > > > a sip/sips URI containing the enum-mapped domain name > > corresponding to > > > the phone number. (I would rather see the TEL used for this > > - it is more > > > user friendly.) > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Paul > > > > > > Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: > > >> I just submitted: > > >> > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-sip-rfc447 > > 4-concerns-00.txt > > >> > > >> > > >> This is basically a discussion on the security properties > > of rfc4474 > > >> with phone numbers, and a comparison to rfc3325 in this > > case. Also a > > >> discussion on what happens to dtls-srtp. > > >> > > >> Comments welcome. > > >> > > >> -Jonathan R. > > > > > > > -- > > Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 499 Thornall St. > > Cisco Fellow Edison, NJ 08837 > > Cisco, Voice Technology Group > > jdrosen@cisco.com > > http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (408) 902-3084 > > http://www.cisco.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip > > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Tue Feb 19 07:03:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DCA3A6DA8; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:03:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.893 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.893 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.456, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id URe2BRjfTdmY; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:03:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331283A6BAB; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:03:20 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E543A695E; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:03:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s8G-mXFIIWmI; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:03:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.songbird.com (mail.songbird.com [208.184.79.10]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE873A6A9F; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:03:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from rshockeyPC (h-68-165-240-35.mclnva23.covad.net [68.165.240.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1JF27MM016770 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:02:09 -0800 From: "Richard Shockey" To: References: <47B9125B.2060104@cisco.com> <47B99B39.6040105@cisco.com> <47B9DE39.60608@cisco.com> <5FB585F183235B42A9E70095055136FB79857A@DEMUEXC012.nsn-intra.net> <134a01c8727c$0d3530c0$279f9240$@us> <47BA8421.9040209@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <47BA8421.9040209@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:00:52 -0500 Message-ID: <0af801c87308$3a672530$af356f90$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AchyyF2iXQBrESw/QcejEIi4+p7SEgAPvGPw Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us Cc: 'IETF SIP List' , enum@ietf.org, 'Paul Kyzivat' Subject: Re: [Enum] [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Well ENUM is on a short leash in Philadelphia with only 1 hour, we are trying to slowly but deliberately wind things down. It might not be the best time, but we certainly have large body of expertise in dealing with E.164 numbers and the history of trying to deal with number mappings in globally distributed databases. :-) = It's certainly something worth discussing the ENUM WG list from time to time but the real issues are all layer 8 and above. > -----Original Message----- > From: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Hannes Tschofenig > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:24 AM > To: Richard Shockey > Cc: 'IETF SIP List'; 'Paul Kyzivat' > Subject: Re: [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers > = > Hi Richard > = > I have thought about that. When I spoke to a couple of people about > requesting a slot in ENUM they told me that ENUM is not the right > place > to discuss this. > Feedback from the ENUM WG would certainly be helpful. ; > = > Ciao > Hannes > = > Richard Shockey wrote: > > So did you guys want a slot during the ENUM WG? > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of > >> Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) > >> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 2:55 PM > >> To: ext Jonathan Rosenberg; Paul Kyzivat > >> Cc: IETF SIP List > >> Subject: Re: [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers > >> > >> Hi Jonathan, > >> Hi Paul, > >> > >> thanks for raising the aspect of E.164 and ENUM usage. There was > an > >> offline discussion between Dan Wing, Klaus Darilion, Kai Fischer, > >> David Schwartz, Hadriel Kaplan, John Elwell, and myself about > E.164 > >> and SIP Identity. As part of the discussion Klaus and I polished a > >> former document of Alexander Mayrhofer on the usage of ENUM for > E.164 > >> numbers (see draft-mayrhofer-enum-domainkeys-00). As we moved > along > >> with the work we obviously came across a couple of problems (as > one > >> can easily imagine) and the document triggered a long discussion > among > >> us. Dispite a couple of challenges, we published the document > today > >> (see http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-darilion-sip-e164- > enum- > >> 00.txt). I learned a lot while working on that document. > >> > >> In addition to publishing the document a few of us have also > worked on > >> a document that captures some of our discussion on E.164 number > >> ownership. I will publish it very soon -- just a bit more proof- > >> reading. > >> > >> Ciao > >> Hannes > >> > >> > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > >> > Von: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org] Im > >> > Auftrag von ext Jonathan Rosenberg > >> > Gesendet: Montag, 18. Februar 2008 21:36 > >> > An: Paul Kyzivat > >> > Cc: IETF SIP List > >> > Betreff: Re: [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers > >> > > >> > I agree that something along the lines of enum could solve > >> > this problem, > >> > and I believe there was a draft that proposed such a thing. This > has > >> > been discussed since the start of rfc4474. > >> > > >> > However, I fear that saying, 'use enum' is kind of like saying, > >> we'll > >> > just use an All-Knowing Oracle, so lets figure out the interface > >> > protocol to the Oracle. The easy part is the interface (the enum > >> > mechanism). The actual hard problem is how to get those entries > >> > populated. The deployment of public enum has been - shall we > >> > say - less > >> > than spectacular. I'd hate for that to be our only solution. Not > >> that > >> > its obvious what else to do; though I do suggest in my draft > >> > how domain > >> > based authentication, when combined with whitelists and > >> > blacklists, can > >> > help. > >> > > >> > -Jonathan R. > >> > > >> > Paul Kyzivat wrote: > >> > > Jonathan, > >> > > > >> > > I guess the time has come for this discussion, since John > >> > Ewell has also > >> > > submitted a draft on this subject. > >> > > > >> > > I thought the problem was already well known, but perhaps > >> > not. IMO the > >> > > main thing now is to figure out the *solution* to the problem! > >> > > IMO a solution is to use a 4474-style approach, but where the > >> > > certificate is tied to just the phone number, not to some > >> arbitrary > >> > > domain name. That of course would depend on a model where > >> > the "owner" of > >> > > the phone number is the one who may obtain the certificate > >> > for that number. > >> > > > >> > > My thought is that we already have an algorithmic mapping > >> > from an E.164 > >> > > phone number to a domain name, defined by enum. If the > >> > sender puts an > >> > > E.164 number in From, and can sign it with a cert for the > >> > enum mapped > >> > > domain name corresponding to that number, then that ought > >> > to be valid > >> > > proof of the validity of the sender. > >> > > > >> > > In those places where public enum is in operation, I think > there > >> is > >> > > already a legal mechanism in place to give the owner of record > of > >> a > >> > > particular phone number control over the contents of the > >> > corresponding > >> > > DNS entry. That should also be sufficient to allow a > certificate > >> > > authority to assign a cert to that same owner. > >> > > > >> > > Combine all that and you have a complete e2e identity model > >> > for phone > >> > > numbers, based on public enum. And that can be true even if > >> > public enum > >> > > isn't used to *route* the calls to that number. So it could > >> > be used for > >> > > "unlisted" numbers. > >> > > > >> > > To use this approach the From header should contain either > >> > a TEL URI, or > >> > > a sip/sips URI containing the enum-mapped domain name > >> > corresponding to > >> > > the phone number. (I would rather see the TEL used for this > >> > - it is more > >> > > user friendly.) > >> > > > >> > > Thanks, > >> > > Paul > >> > > > >> > > Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: > >> > >> I just submitted: > >> > >> > >> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-sip-rfc447 > >> > 4-concerns-00.txt > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> This is basically a discussion on the security properties > >> > of rfc4474 > >> > >> with phone numbers, and a comparison to rfc3325 in this > >> > case. Also a > >> > >> discussion on what happens to dtls-srtp. > >> > >> > >> > >> Comments welcome. > >> > >> > >> > >> -Jonathan R. > >> > > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 499 Thornall St. > >> > Cisco Fellow Edison, NJ 08837 > >> > Cisco, Voice Technology Group > >> > jdrosen@cisco.com > >> > http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (408) 902- > 3084 > >> > http://www.cisco.com > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > >> > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > >> > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current > sip > >> > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of > sip > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > >> This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > >> Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > >> Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of > sip > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip > > > = > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Tue Feb 19 07:43:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA5E28C606; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org = Section 3.2 suggests there is no definition for Infrastructure ENUM. At lea= st reference RFC 5067! Section 3.3 wallet garden model? I like that :-) = Is there a reason why a carrier can't use infrastructure ENUM to certify a = given populated caller ID using a general rather than a specific key? (If t= hey were willing to) Penn Pfautz AT&T National Access Management +1-732-420-4962 -----Original Message----- From: enum-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:enum-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ric= hard Shockey Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:01 AM To: Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net Cc: 'IETF SIP List'; enum@ietf.org; 'Paul Kyzivat' Subject: Re: [Enum] [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers Well ENUM is on a short leash in Philadelphia with only 1 hour, we are trying to slowly but deliberately wind things down. It might not be the best time, but we certainly have large body of expertise in dealing with E.164 numbers and the history of trying to deal with number mappings in globally distributed databases. :-) = It's certainly something worth discussing the ENUM WG list from time to time but the real issues are all layer 8 and above. > -----Original Message----- > From: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Hannes Tschofenig > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:24 AM > To: Richard Shockey > Cc: 'IETF SIP List'; 'Paul Kyzivat' > Subject: Re: [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers > = > Hi Richard > = > I have thought about that. When I spoke to a couple of people about > requesting a slot in ENUM they told me that ENUM is not the right > place > to discuss this. > Feedback from the ENUM WG would certainly be helpful. ; > = > Ciao > Hannes > = > Richard Shockey wrote: > > So did you guys want a slot during the ENUM WG? > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of > >> Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) > >> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 2:55 PM > >> To: ext Jonathan Rosenberg; Paul Kyzivat > >> Cc: IETF SIP List > >> Subject: Re: [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers > >> > >> Hi Jonathan, > >> Hi Paul, > >> > >> thanks for raising the aspect of E.164 and ENUM usage. There was > an > >> offline discussion between Dan Wing, Klaus Darilion, Kai Fischer, > >> David Schwartz, Hadriel Kaplan, John Elwell, and myself about > E.164 > >> and SIP Identity. As part of the discussion Klaus and I polished a > >> former document of Alexander Mayrhofer on the usage of ENUM for > E.164 > >> numbers (see draft-mayrhofer-enum-domainkeys-00). As we moved > along > >> with the work we obviously came across a couple of problems (as > one > >> can easily imagine) and the document triggered a long discussion > among > >> us. Dispite a couple of challenges, we published the document > today > >> (see http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-darilion-sip-e164- > enum- > >> 00.txt). I learned a lot while working on that document. > >> > >> In addition to publishing the document a few of us have also > worked on > >> a document that captures some of our discussion on E.164 number > >> ownership. I will publish it very soon -- just a bit more proof- > >> reading. > >> > >> Ciao > >> Hannes > >> > >> > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > >> > Von: sip-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces@ietf.org] Im > >> > Auftrag von ext Jonathan Rosenberg > >> > Gesendet: Montag, 18. Februar 2008 21:36 > >> > An: Paul Kyzivat > >> > Cc: IETF SIP List > >> > Betreff: Re: [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers > >> > > >> > I agree that something along the lines of enum could solve > >> > this problem, > >> > and I believe there was a draft that proposed such a thing. This > has > >> > been discussed since the start of rfc4474. > >> > > >> > However, I fear that saying, 'use enum' is kind of like saying, > >> we'll > >> > just use an All-Knowing Oracle, so lets figure out the interface > >> > protocol to the Oracle. The easy part is the interface (the enum > >> > mechanism). The actual hard problem is how to get those entries > >> > populated. The deployment of public enum has been - shall we > >> > say - less > >> > than spectacular. I'd hate for that to be our only solution. Not > >> that > >> > its obvious what else to do; though I do suggest in my draft > >> > how domain > >> > based authentication, when combined with whitelists and > >> > blacklists, can > >> > help. > >> > > >> > -Jonathan R. > >> > > >> > Paul Kyzivat wrote: > >> > > Jonathan, > >> > > > >> > > I guess the time has come for this discussion, since John > >> > Ewell has also > >> > > submitted a draft on this subject. > >> > > > >> > > I thought the problem was already well known, but perhaps > >> > not. IMO the > >> > > main thing now is to figure out the *solution* to the problem! > >> > > IMO a solution is to use a 4474-style approach, but where the > >> > > certificate is tied to just the phone number, not to some > >> arbitrary > >> > > domain name. That of course would depend on a model where > >> > the "owner" of > >> > > the phone number is the one who may obtain the certificate > >> > for that number. > >> > > > >> > > My thought is that we already have an algorithmic mapping > >> > from an E.164 > >> > > phone number to a domain name, defined by enum. If the > >> > sender puts an > >> > > E.164 number in From, and can sign it with a cert for the > >> > enum mapped > >> > > domain name corresponding to that number, then that ought > >> > to be valid > >> > > proof of the validity of the sender. > >> > > > >> > > In those places where public enum is in operation, I think > there > >> is > >> > > already a legal mechanism in place to give the owner of record > of > >> a > >> > > particular phone number control over the contents of the > >> > corresponding > >> > > DNS entry. That should also be sufficient to allow a > certificate > >> > > authority to assign a cert to that same owner. > >> > > > >> > > Combine all that and you have a complete e2e identity model > >> > for phone > >> > > numbers, based on public enum. And that can be true even if > >> > public enum > >> > > isn't used to *route* the calls to that number. So it could > >> > be used for > >> > > "unlisted" numbers. > >> > > > >> > > To use this approach the From header should contain either > >> > a TEL URI, or > >> > > a sip/sips URI containing the enum-mapped domain name > >> > corresponding to > >> > > the phone number. (I would rather see the TEL used for this > >> > - it is more > >> > > user friendly.) > >> > > > >> > > Thanks, > >> > > Paul > >> > > > >> > > Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: > >> > >> I just submitted: > >> > >> > >> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-sip-rfc447 > >> > 4-concerns-00.txt > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> This is basically a discussion on the security properties > >> > of rfc4474 > >> > >> with phone numbers, and a comparison to rfc3325 in this > >> > case. Also a > >> > >> discussion on what happens to dtls-srtp. > >> > >> > >> > >> Comments welcome. > >> > >> > >> > >> -Jonathan R. > >> > > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 499 Thornall St. > >> > Cisco Fellow Edison, NJ 08837 > >> > Cisco, Voice Technology Group > >> > jdrosen@cisco.com > >> > http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (408) 902- > 3084 > >> > http://www.cisco.com > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > >> > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > >> > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current > sip > >> > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of > sip > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > >> This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > >> Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > >> Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of > sip > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip > > > = > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Wed Feb 20 09:43:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DAC63A6E57; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:43:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.246 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.246 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.809, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EmYOEae4sZHZ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:43:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899293A6E19; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:43:13 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1573A6E00 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:43:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yexvX51whHXE for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:43:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.songbird.com (mail.songbird.com [208.184.79.10]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CC428C12E for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:43:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from rshockeyPC (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1KHgIoS013159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:42:20 -0800 From: "Richard Shockey" To: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:40:58 -0500 Message-ID: <097401c873e7$c16b6660$44423320$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Achz58B9CZWEwhUHRIWDeRJohSbTaQ== Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us Subject: [Enum] PRELIMINARY AGENDA ENUM WG X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Did we want to finalize discussion of the enum Registration document? #########3 RELIMINARY PRELIMINARY IETF 71 Telephone Number Mapping (ENUM) WG Agenda THURSDAY, March 13, 2008 1510-1610 Afternoon Session II Breakout Room RAI enum Telephone Number Mapping WG Chair(s): Patrik Faltstrom Richard Shockey WG Secretary: Alexander Mayrhofer RAI Director(s): Jon Peterson jon.peterson@neustar.biz Cullen Jennings fluffy@cisco.com RAI Area Advisor: Jon Peterson jon.peterson@neustar.biz Agenda Bashing. 1. Status of Drafts and in Drafts the Queue Overview - Alexander Mayhofer WG Secretary 10 2. Title : The E.164 to Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI) Dynamic Delegation Discovery System (DDDS) Application (ENUM) Author(s) : S. Bradner, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-02.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2008-02-13 This document discusses the use of the Domain Name System (DNS) for the storage of E.164 numbers, and for resolving them into URIs that can be used for (for example) telephony call setup. This document also describes how the DNS can be used to identify the services associated with an E.164 number. This document obsoletes RFC 3761. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-02.txt 3. Title : DNS Extension for ENUM Source-URI Author(s) : H. Kaplan, et al. Filename : draft-kaplan-enum-source-uri-00.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2007-12-11 This document defines a specific DNS extension, based on the EDNS0 OPT RR, for an ENUM query to include the source URI which caused the ENUM request. This is useful, for example, to specify the originating SIP or TEL URI from a SIP request which triggered the ENUM query, so the ENUM server can provide a different response. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kaplan-enum-source-uri-00.txt Richard Shockey Director, Member of the Technical Staff NeuStar 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Thu Feb 21 07:56:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6758828CA7A; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:56:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.766, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BYg2xGB2PFpc; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:56:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9F728CA49; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:56:04 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7161428C90B for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:56:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LLpPzyE8L9s0 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:55:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.songbird.com (mail.songbird.com [208.184.79.10]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152EE28C946 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:55:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from rshockeyPC (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1LFsvUb000546 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:54:59 -0800 From: "Richard Shockey" To: "'Alexander Mayrhofer'" References: <097401c873e7$c16b6660$44423320$@us> <8BC845943058D844ABFC73D2220D4665071ECC45@nics-mail.sbg.nic.at> In-Reply-To: <8BC845943058D844ABFC73D2220D4665071ECC45@nics-mail.sbg.nic.at> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:53:34 -0500 Message-ID: <08e601c874a1$eb596480$c20c2d80$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Achz58B9CZWEwhUHRIWDeRJohSbTaQAcPv/gABI60sA= Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us Cc: enum@ietf.org, 'Bernie Hoeneisen' Subject: Re: [Enum] PRELIMINARY AGENDA ENUM WG X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Good ...I agree. 3761bis and the registration document are the main issues. It would be helpful if you guys can come up with a list of issues to be resolved, that was very helpful last time. > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Mayrhofer [mailto:alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at] > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:13 AM > To: Richard Shockey > Cc: enum@ietf.org; Bernie Hoeneisen > Subject: AW: [Enum] PRELIMINARY AGENDA ENUM WG > > > > > Did we want to finalize discussion of the enum Registration > document? > > We'll definitely need some time in the session for that. Our plan is > to > iron out things over the week already, so that we make best use of the > available time. It now looks as if this document would have to be > published together with 3671bis. > > We'll post a new revision soon, likely tomorrow. > > cheers > > Alex _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Thu Feb 21 13:05:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC98328C3CA; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:05:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.13 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.13 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.693, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KulIQfCLiX+Y; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128D128C6F0; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:05:50 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182B23A6CFE; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:05:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bl8se1zQEuXU; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:05:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.songbird.com (mail.songbird.com [208.184.79.10]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679543A6CF5; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:05:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rshockeyPC (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1LL4l8e014495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:04:48 -0800 From: "Richard Shockey" To: , Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:03:18 -0500 Message-ID: <015201c874cd$2f912c20$8eb38460$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ach0zS6cB16YwuCSR7ex2xvPsYFBBg== Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us Subject: [Enum] Remember Agenda times are PRELIMINARY. X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org The final IETF agenda is still somewhat in flux so plan or don't plan accordingly. 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Mr. Paul Rogers Sales Manager/Director Global Medical Equipment Email:sales-gme2@hotmail.com From enum-bounces@ietf.org Mon Feb 25 12:50:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1502D28CC2E; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:50:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.012, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 38rFpTx99tFZ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:50:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF86E28CAB5; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:15:06 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@ietf.org Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 198B228C8EE; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:15:01 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Message-Id: <20080225201502.198B228C8EE@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:15:02 -0800 (PST) Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] I-D Action:draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-07.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-02-25121310.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-07.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-07.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-02-25121310.I-D\@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum --NextPart-- From enum-bounces@ietf.org Mon Feb 25 13:55:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7B528D188; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:55:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.076 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.076 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.639, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 053QlE0++1kS; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:55:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33543A6EEE; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:20:27 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824703A6DA6 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:20:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b3ghe+G5q-g4 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:20:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.songbird.com (mail.songbird.com [208.184.79.10]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3833A6F0D for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:12:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from rshockeyPC (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1PLBtfk018820 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:11:56 -0800 From: "Richard Shockey" To: "'Bernie Hoeneisen'" References: <20080225201502.198B228C8EE@core3.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20080225201502.198B228C8EE@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:10:12 -0500 Message-ID: <0ad901c877f2$d038bf30$70aa3d90$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ach38AuRyx77I5giTFK5knhJo92ekwAAqCxw Content-Language: en-us X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Enum] I-D Action:draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-07.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Bernie ..this is great that you got this ready in time .. Is there a list of question the WG needs to consider before finalizing this? ############### > -----Original Message----- > From: enum-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:enum-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Internet-Drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 3:15 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: enum@ietf.org > Subject: [Enum] I-D Action:draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-07.txt > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Telephone Number Mapping Working > Group of the IETF. > > > Title : IANA Registration of Enumservices: Guide, > Template and IANA Considerations > Author(s) : B. Hoeneisen, et al. > Filename : draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-07.txt > Pages : 36 > Date : 2008-02-25 > > This document specifies a revision of the IANA registry for > Enumservices, describes corresponding registration procedures, and > provides a guideline for creating Enumservices and its Registration > Documents. > Registration of Enumservices is now handled using the "Expert Review" > process. A Registration Document containing the specification of the > Enumservice is required. However, contrary to earlier registration > procedures, said Registration Document does not necessarily need to be > promoted to RFC status. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-enumservices- > guide-07.txt > > To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to > i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of > the message. > You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce > to change your subscription settings. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the > username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After > logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then > "get draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-07.txt". > > A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in > http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow- > sites.txt > > Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > > Send a message to: > mailserv@ietf.org. > In the body type: > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide- > 07.txt". > > NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" > command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail > readers > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > how to manipulate these messages. > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > Internet-Draft. _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Tue Feb 26 02:09:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA813A6CEA; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:09:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.735 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.735 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.298, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i0gEhHpG7lVj; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:09:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7363A6B82; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:09:24 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A76A3A69AC for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:09:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XKcByIkhWP86 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from insensate.co.uk (norman.insensate.co.uk [213.152.49.123]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D2D3A69A4 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (norman.insensate.co.uk [213.152.49.123]) by insensate.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D0180517; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:09:23 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <0ad901c877f2$d038bf30$70aa3d90$@us> References: <20080225201502.198B228C8EE@core3.amsl.com> <0ad901c877f2$d038bf30$70aa3d90$@us> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Message-Id: <6C169205-A1A2-416C-A858-9443386006E4@insensate.co.uk> From: lconroy Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:09:08 +0000 To: Richard Shockey X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Cc: enum@ietf.org, 'Bernie Hoeneisen' Subject: Re: [Enum] I-D Action:draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-07.txt X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Hi Richard, folks, There was Sam Weiller's comment [ietf general mailing list] on the use of templates in IANA registrations. He was talking about rfc2929bis, but that might have an impact on other registrations documents as well. I guess that this may be raised in DNSEXT, which is meeting on Tuesday according to the DRAFT agenda. (i.e. it should be clear by the time of the ENUM WG meeting). all the best, Lawrence On 25 Feb 2008, at 21:10, Richard Shockey wrote: > Bernie ..this is great that you got this ready in time .. > Is there a list of question the WG needs to consider before > finalizing this? > > ############### >> -----Original Message----- >> From: enum-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:enum-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf >> Of Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 3:15 PM >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >> Cc: enum@ietf.org >> Subject: [Enum] I-D Action:draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-07.txt >> >> > guide-07.txt> _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Tue Feb 26 04:10:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA8A28C2DD; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:10:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.623 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.623 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.186, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tXjI2UeMK0Ku; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5D928C1C2; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:10:28 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0837928C1C2 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:10:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mZQ0kqmVDD+a for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:10:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from medel.switch.ch (medel.switch.ch [IPv6:2001:620:0:14:214:4fff:fe75:4775]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57CE28C11B for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:10:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.59.6.129] (helo=machb.switch.ch) by medel.switch.ch with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JTydU-00016t-HV; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:10:16 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:09:54 +0100 (CET) From: Bernie Hoeneisen X-X-Sender: bhoeneis@machb To: Richard Shockey In-Reply-To: <0ad901c877f2$d038bf30$70aa3d90$@us> Message-ID: References: <20080225201502.198B228C8EE@core3.amsl.com> <0ad901c877f2$d038bf30$70aa3d90$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SWITCH-SCANNER: bypassed Cc: enum@ietf.org Subject: [Enum] List of questions (was Re: I-D Action:draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-07.txt) X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org Hi Rich et al. On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Richard Shockey wrote: > Is there a list of question the WG needs to consider before finalizing this? Such a list is still under construction. I've opened a ticket on our request tracker, which right now contains a draft version of the probable open issues and questions: http://ietf.enum.at/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/32 Feel free to provide feedback and/or further issues to . cheers, Bernie PS: FYI: It looks like that I will NOT travel to Philadelphia. _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Tue Feb 26 08:13:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F8628C457; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:13:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.067 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.067 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.630, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wvw-U+80JSWm; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:13:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887D828C32E; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:12:57 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE4928C1DE for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:12:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9qCTfcsaUNAy for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.songbird.com (mail.songbird.com [208.184.79.10]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC48C3A6D20 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:12:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rshockeyPC (neustargw.va.neustar.com [209.173.53.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.songbird.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1QGBRKa029498 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:11:28 -0800 From: "Richard Shockey" To: Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:09:42 -0500 Message-ID: <00e401c87891$ffbe45f0$ff3ad1d0$@us> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ach4kf1KkpG57AtXQ6S1Y55chw3SOw== Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: xk0= AJ+X Cx4F DvVo E2S2 E31D GN2G GcyJ IAzP IJPS INtp ITR2 IdYP IjQQ Ksfg L65+; 1; ZQBuAHUAbQBAAGkAZQB0AGYALgBvAHIAZwA=; Sosha1_v1; 7; {02814F64-E368-4F87-9302-6E48014E6392}; cgBpAGMAaABhAHIAZABAAHMAaABvAGMAawBlAHkALgB1AHMA; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:09:39 GMT; SQAgAHQAaABpAG4AawAgAHQAaABpAHMAIABqAHUAcwB0ACAAYQBiAG8AdQB0ACAAZABvAGUAcwAgAGkAZgAgAGYAbwByACAAdABoAGUAIABhAGcAYQBuAGQAYQAgAC4ALgAuAA== x-cr-puzzleid: {02814F64-E368-4F87-9302-6E48014E6392} X-SongbirdInformation: support@songbird.com for more information X-Songbird: Clean X-Songbird-From: richard@shockey.us Subject: [Enum] I think this just about does if for the aganda ... X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org IETF 71 Telephone Number Mapping (ENUM) WG Agenda THURSDAY, March 13, 2008 1510-1610 Afternoon Session II Franklin 3/4 INT savi Source Address Validation Improvements BOF Franklin 11/12 RAI avt Audio/Video Transport WG Franklin 6/7 RAI enum Telephone Number Mapping WG Salon I SEC smime S/MIME Mail Security WG Chair(s): Patrik Faltstrom Richard Shockey WG Secretary: Alexander Mayrhofer RAI Director(s): Jon Peterson jon.peterson@neustar.biz Cullen Jennings fluffy@cisco.com RAI Area Advisor: Jon Peterson jon.peterson@neustar.biz Agenda Bashing. 1. Status of Drafts and in Drafts the Queue Overview - Alexander Mayhofer WG Secretary 10 2. Title : The E.164 to Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI) Dynamic Delegation Discovery System (DDDS) Application (ENUM) Author(s) : S. Bradner, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-02.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2008-02-13 This document discusses the use of the Domain Name System (DNS) for the storage of E.164 numbers, and for resolving them into URIs that can be used for (for example) telephony call setup. This document also describes how the DNS can be used to identify the services associated with an E.164 number. This document obsoletes RFC 3761. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-3761bis-02.txt 3. Title : IANA Registration of Enumservices: Guide, Template and IANA Considerations Author(s) : B. Hoeneisen, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-07.txt Pages : 36 Date : 2008-02-25 This document specifies a revision of the IANA registry for Enumservices, describes corresponding registration procedures, and provides a guideline for creating Enumservices and its Registration Documents. Registration of Enumservices is now handled using the "Expert Review" process. A Registration Document containing the specification of the Enumservice is required. However, contrary to earlier registration procedures, said Registration Document does not necessarily need to be promoted to RFC status. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-enumservices-guide-07.tx t 4. Title : DNS Extension for ENUM Source-URI Author(s) : H. Kaplan, et al. Filename : draft-kaplan-enum-source-uri-00.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2007-12-11 This document defines a specific DNS extension, based on the EDNS0 OPT RR, for an ENUM query to include the source URI which caused the ENUM request. This is useful, for example, to specify the originating SIP or TEL URI from a SIP request which triggered the ENUM query, so the ENUM server can provide a different response. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kaplan-enum-source-uri-00.txt Richard Shockey Director, Member of the Technical Staff NeuStar 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum From enum-bounces@ietf.org Tue Feb 26 08:36:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-enum-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5B128C5EE; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:36:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.795 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.795 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.258, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x+MvCLzHUF-v; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:36:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1618728C421; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:36:10 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: enum@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052BE28C421 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:36:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B6Fh--c8nfcn for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:36:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from shaun.rfc1035.com (shaun.rfc1035.com [195.54.233.68]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637A63A6D53 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:36:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.54.233.66] (account jim HELO [195.54.233.66]) by shaun.rfc1035.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.4) with ESMTPSA id 220040 for enum@ietf.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:36:00 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Message-Id: To: IETF ENUM WG From: Jim Reid Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:35:59 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Subject: [Enum] UK ENUM Consortium AGM X-BeenThere: enum@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Enum Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: enum-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: enum-bounces@ietf.org I apologise in advance as this is somewhat off-topic. However this list is one of the best ways of reaching the people who might be interested in UK ENUM developments. The Annual General Meeting of the UK ENUM Consortium will be held at 13:00 on March 25th at Goodenough College, London. Details of how to register for the meeting and become a member of UKEC are on the company's web site at: http://www.ukec.co.uk/agm/index.html. UKEC is also inviting nominations for its board. The founding board members will be resigning at the AGM so that the membership can elect a new board. Although the AGM is open to the public, only members or prospective members of UKEC will be eligible to stand for election or vote at the meeting. If you have any questions about the event or UKEC, please contact me or send email to secretariat@ukenumconsortium.org _______________________________________________ enum mailing list enum@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/enum