From nobody Fri May 1 08:09:34 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8597E1B2ACE; Fri, 1 May 2015 08:09:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lt_f7hGiL38W; Fri, 1 May 2015 08:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFAF1B2A97; Fri, 1 May 2015 08:09:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150501150932.12449.33083.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 08:09:32 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: eppext@ietf.org Subject: [eppext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-02.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 15:09:33 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Extensible Provisioning Protocol Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : Key Relay Mapping for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol Authors : Rik Ribbers Marc Groeneweg Filename : draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-02.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2015-04-30 Abstract: This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) mapping for a key relay object that relays DNSSEC key material between EPP clients using the poll queue defined in [RFC5730]. This key relay mapping will help facilitate changing the DNS operator of a domain while keeping the DNSSEC chain of trust intact. 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Major change is the new XML structure as suggested by the WG. Hopefully= this will help the document move forward. As always any feedback is appreciated. Regards, Rik Ribbers --_000_C80127C588F8F2409E2B535AF968B768B97499BCkambx2SIDNlocal_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

 

As you might have noticed we've= published a new version of the keyrelay draft. Major change is the new XML= structure as suggested by the WG. Hopefully this will help the document mo= ve forward.

 

As always any feedback is appre= ciated.

 

Regards,

Rik Ribbers

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Dear all,

CNNIC proposed a EPP reseller extension on the last ROW = meeting. Based on this proposal, two drafts were submitted. 

draft-zhou-eppext-reseller is about the reseller ext= ensions of EPP for domain names, hosts and contacts. draft-zhou-eppex= t-reseller-mapping is a document that describes the EPP reseller object ma= pping.

Any comments are welcome.=0A

Regards,
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Linlin Zhou<= /div>
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Date: 2015-05-04 16:04
Subject: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-resel= ler-00.txt
 
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     &= nbsp;  Title         &nb= sp; : Registry Reseller Extension for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol= (EPP)
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        Authors&nbs= p;        : Linlin Zhou
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&n= bsp;           &nbs= p;            = Ning Kong
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        &n= bsp;           &nbs= p;     Chao Qi
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    &n= bsp;           &nbs= p;         Xiaodong Lee
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Filename     &nbs= p;  : draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-00.txt
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Pages &nbs= p;         : 16
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Date=             : 2015-= 05-04
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  = This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) for=0A
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   domain names, hosts and contacts st= ored in a shared central
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   e= xtended mapping is applied to provide additional features required
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Dear all,

CNNIC proposed a EPP reseller extension on the last= ROW meeting. Based on this proposal, two drafts were submitted. 

draft-zhou-eppext-reseller is about the reselle= r extensions of EPP for domain names, hosts and contacts. draft-zhou= -eppext-reseller-mapping is a document that describes the EPP reseller obj= ect mapping.

Any comments are welcome.
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Linlin Zhou
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Date: 2015-05-04 16:06
Subject: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-map= ping-00.txt
 
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A New Internet-= Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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     =    Title         &n= bsp; : Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) Reseller Mapping
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   &n= bsp;           &nbs= p;          Ning Kong
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           =             &n= bsp;  Chao Qi
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       =             &n= bsp;      Xiaodong Lee
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  &= nbsp;           &nb= sp;           James Goul= d
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Filename        : draft= -zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping-00.txt
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Pages   =         : 31
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Date &n= bsp;          : 2015-05-04=0A
 
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Abstract:
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   This do= cument describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)
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&n= bsp;  mapping for provisioning and management of registry reseller st= ored
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   in a shared central repository.  Speci= fied in Extensible Markup
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   Language (XML), this e= xtended mapping is applied to provide
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   additional= features required for the provisioning of registry
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 &nb= sp; resellers.
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boundary="Apple-Mail=_1EDE8DCB-CA5C-4FEB-B21C-02DAD4359A6D" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) From: Rubens Kuhl In-Reply-To: <819AE333-55A5-4C22-B90F-86396AA0EFD2@verisign.com> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 20:28:32 -0300 Message-Id: <259A845A-4DD1-4B48-8139-151D3275FAA7@nic.br> References: <20150217101609.7180.94307.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <54E32A6A.2050905@centralnic.com> <819AE333-55A5-4C22-B90F-86396AA0EFD2@verisign.com> To: "Gould, James" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) Archived-At: Cc: "eppext@ietf.org" , Gavin Brown Subject: Re: [eppext] New Version Notification for draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 23:28:47 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_1EDE8DCB-CA5C-4FEB-B21C-02DAD4359A6D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Perhaps it might not ignore, if the extension is being used to verify = that client and server agree on the conditions for a specific name (its = fee, whether a fraction of the application is refundable or not etc.) Rubens > Em 04/05/2015, =C3=A0(s) 20:13:000, Gould, James = escreveu: >=20 > Gavin,=20 >=20 > I wanted to point out one item that may require more text in the draft = to address. The element described in section 3.4 =E2=80=9CFees = and Credits=E2=80=9D covers its use when created by the server in the = responses, but does not cover its use when created by the client in the = transform commands (create, renew, transfer, and update). My = recommendation is to add text to section 3.4 covering the use case of = the element in the commands, since I don=E2=80=99t believe = that the =E2=80=9Cdescription=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Crefundable=E2=80=9D, = =E2=80=9Cgrace-period=E2=80=9D, and =E2=80=9Capplied=E2=80=9D attributes = are applicable in the command. Both the =E2=80=9Crefundable=E2=80=9D = and =E2=80=9Capplied=E2=80=9D attributes include defaults, so they will = have values even if they are not explicitly set by the client. I=E2=80=99= m assuming that the server should ignore these attributes if they are = set in the command, but I just want to confirm the expectation. =20 >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > =E2=80=94 >=20 > JG >=20 >=20 > >=20 > James Gould > Distinguished Engineer > jgould@Verisign.com >=20 > 703-948-3271 > 12061 Bluemont Way > Reston, VA 20190 >=20 > VerisignInc.com >> On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:47 AM, Gavin Brown > wrote: >>=20 >> I've just submitted a new version of the fee extension draft for your >> review. >>=20 >> 9.4. Changes from 03 to 04 >>=20 >> 1. Changed Intended Status to Standards Track. >>=20 >> 2. As per suggestion from Michael Bauland, the = element >> is no longer included in and responses for >> "restore" commands. It's still mandatory for all other = commands. >>=20 >> 3. Added summary of the attributes for the element. >>=20 >> 4. Clarified that the "refundable" and "grace-period" attributes = of >> the fee elements are dependant on each other and cannot >> appear on their own. >>=20 >> 5. Removed the option of returning a 1001 response when the fee is >> incorrect. >>=20 >> 6. Forbidden the inclusion of extension elements in transform >> responses if no fee/credit has been assessed. >>=20 >> 7. Made the element optional in transform commands. >>=20 >> 8. Amended XML Namespace section of IANA Considerations, added EPP >> Extension Registry section. >>=20 >> 10. TODO >>=20 >>=20 >> (Note to RFC Editor: remove this section before publication as an >> RFC.) >>=20 >> 1. Make the extension object-agnostic so it can be used with other >> objects, not just vanilla domains. >>=20 >> 2. Change the command so that availability data is not >> returned. >>=20 >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt >> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 02:16:09 -0800 >> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> To: Gavin Brown > >>=20 >> A new version of I-D, draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt >> has been successfully submitted by Gavin Brown and posted to the >> IETF repository. >>=20 >> Name: draft-brown-epp-fees >> Revision: 04 >> Title: Registry Fee Extension for the Extensible Provisioning = Protocol >> (EPP) >> Document date: 2015-02-17 >> Group: Individual Submission >> Pages: 36 >> URL: >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt = >> Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brown-epp-fees/ >> Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-brown-epp-fees-04 >> Diff: = http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-brown-epp-fees-04 >>=20 >> Abstract: >> This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) >> extension mapping for registry fees. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>=20 >> The IETF Secretariat >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Gavin Brown >> Chief Technology Officer >> CentralNic Group plc (LSE:CNIC) >> Innovative, Reliable and Flexible Registry Services >> for ccTLD, gTLD and private domain name registries >> https://www.centralnic.com/ >>=20 >> CentralNic Group plc is a company registered in England and Wales = with >> company number 8576358. Registered Offices: 35-39 Moorgate, London, >> EC2R 6AR. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> EppExt mailing list >> EppExt@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eppext >=20 > _______________________________________________ > EppExt mailing list > EppExt@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eppext --Apple-Mail=_1EDE8DCB-CA5C-4FEB-B21C-02DAD4359A6D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

Perhaps it might not = ignore, if the extension is being used to verify that client and server = agree on the conditions for a specific name (its fee, whether a fraction = of the application is refundable or not etc.)


Rubens


Em 04/05/2015, =C3=A0(s) 20:13:000, Gould, James <JGould@verisign.com>= escreveu:

Gavin, 

I wanted to point out one item that may require more = text in the draft to address.  The <fee:fee> element = described in section 3.4 =E2=80=9CFees and Credits=E2=80=9D covers its = use when created by the server in the responses, but does not cover its = use when created by the client in the transform commands (create, renew, transfer, and = update).  My recommendation is to add text to section 3.4 covering = the use case of the <fee:fee> element in the commands, since I = don=E2=80=99t believe that the =E2=80=9Cdescription=E2=80=9D, = =E2=80=9Crefundable=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cgrace-period=E2=80=9D, and =E2=80=9Capplied=E2=80=9D attributes are applicable in the command. =  Both the =E2=80=9Crefundable=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Capplied=E2=80=9D = attributes include defaults, so they will have values even if they are = not explicitly set by the client.  I=E2=80=99m assuming that the = server should ignore these attributes if they are set in the command, but I just want to confirm the = expectation.  

Thanks,

=E2=80=94

JG


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James Gould
Distinguished Engineer
jgould@Verisign.com

703-948-3271
12061 Bluemont Way
Reston, VA 20190

VerisignInc.com

On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:47 AM, Gavin Brown <gavin.brown@centralnic.com> wrote:

I've just submitted a new version of the fee extension = draft for your
review.

9.4. Changes from 03 to 04

  1.  Changed Intended Status to Standards Track.

  2.  As per suggestion from Michael Bauland, the = <fee:period> element
      is no longer included in = <check> and <info> responses for
      "restore" commands.  It's still = mandatory for all other commands.

  3.  Added summary of the attributes for the = <fee:fee> element.

  4.  Clarified that the "refundable" and "grace-period" = attributes of
      the <fee> fee elements are = dependant on each other and cannot
      appear on their own.

  5.  Removed the option of returning a 1001 response = when the fee is
      incorrect.

  6.  Forbidden the inclusion of extension elements in = transform
      responses if no fee/credit has been = assessed.

  7.  Made the <fee:currency> element optional in = transform commands.

  8.  Amended XML Namespace section of IANA = Considerations, added EPP
      Extension Registry section.

10. TODO


  (Note to RFC Editor: remove this section before publication = as an
  RFC.)

  1.  Make the extension object-agnostic so it can be = used with other
      objects, not just vanilla = domains.

  2.  Change the <check> command so that = availability data is not
      returned.

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 02:16:09 -0800
From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
To: Gavin Brown <gavin.brown@centralnic.com>

A new version of I-D, draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt
has been successfully submitted by Gavin Brown and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name: = draft-brown-epp-fees
Revision: = 04
Title: = Registry Fee Extension for the = Extensible Provisioning Protocol
(EPP)
Document date: = 2015-02-17
Group: = Individual Submission
Pages: = 36
URL:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt=
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brown-epp-fees/
Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-brown-epp-fees-04
Diff:           http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-brown-epp-fees-04<= br class=3D"">
Abstract:
  This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol = (EPP)
  extension mapping for registry fees.





Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

The IETF Secretariat


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Gavin Brown
Chief Technology Officer
CentralNic Group plc (LSE:CNIC)
Innovative, Reliable and Flexible Registry Services
for ccTLD, gTLD and private domain name registries
https://www.centralnic.com/

CentralNic Group plc is a company registered in England and Wales = with
company number 8576358. Registered Offices: 35-39 Moorgate, London,
EC2R 6AR.



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= --Apple-Mail=_1EDE8DCB-CA5C-4FEB-B21C-02DAD4359A6D-- From nobody Mon May 4 16:30:06 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165571B2CDF for ; Mon, 4 May 2015 16:30:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H-vbsVbpG7dg for ; Mon, 4 May 2015 16:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f178.google.com (mail-lb0-f178.google.com [209.85.217.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB4341B2CCF for ; Mon, 4 May 2015 16:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lbbuc2 with SMTP id uc2so116050839lbb.2 for ; Mon, 04 May 2015 16:29:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=gjUUySb5EcugOLWamNyRLjphrABslGmyaoQqUSgj0wk=; b=X1rk/dgoGihcPYfYSEvRuYIEG0GJzQkeDUkGe8Z9mY3fG39Xcjp9llQr+ZDNDc6DN6 0+mNNm0NwnO5bbRoLOtD3EnkJhlQzye9mvvIGnQ4/xBULQwjEQa72pUR0A1adkl/KMoz TU/BHXrp+DMu+w8oO1+/wFfUGxck1oUoDz9VXHdOtPAOY9Hj+ohhE6Je5k0JxdkeZy7v v1edTVZ/xrqIR0pM/JS4GZPUO7COdxPE061qUsZjQ+6F68n1Ov6fsRgjDbBLHTMok8sG EVLR+deBQP1v1Dxs9/dFTD1lbMrlGfy/apZQcSuoAq7ROvI5oK5ojrOjXZzc9pVybgO0 BGIA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnnLNCiGBuk6hiH2/OxORDAB/IHySn1APTujHeB5O1IemixwzkX0j2KpmewqfzUij6HGCww MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.28.34 with SMTP id y2mr21735065lag.14.1430782193268; Mon, 04 May 2015 16:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.242.171 with HTTP; Mon, 4 May 2015 16:29:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <819AE333-55A5-4C22-B90F-86396AA0EFD2@verisign.com> References: <20150217101609.7180.94307.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <54E32A6A.2050905@centralnic.com> <819AE333-55A5-4C22-B90F-86396AA0EFD2@verisign.com> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 17:29:53 -0600 Message-ID: From: Pat Moroney To: "Gould, James" Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=089e0158c57a61fcc9051549f0a6 Archived-At: Cc: "eppext@ietf.org" , Gavin Brown Subject: Re: [eppext] New Version Notification for draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 23:30:01 -0000 --089e0158c57a61fcc9051549f0a6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0158c57a61fcc6051549f0a5 --089e0158c57a61fcc6051549f0a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When performing a query command, if I receive a in the response, I would expect to be able to pass the exact element back in the appropriate transform command. I would also expect that all parameters that were passed would be validated. This would allow us to know that the parameters of that fee have not been changed in the interval between the query command and the transform command= . On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Gould, James wrote: > Gavin, > > I wanted to point out one item that may require more text in the draft > to address. The element described in section 3.4 =E2=80=9CFees= and > Credits=E2=80=9D covers its use when created by the server in the respons= es, but > does not cover its use when created by the client in the transform comman= ds > (create, renew, transfer, and update). My recommendation is to add text = to > section 3.4 covering the use case of the element in the command= s, > since I don=E2=80=99t believe that the =E2=80=9Cdescription=E2=80=9D, =E2= =80=9Crefundable=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cgrace-period=E2=80=9D, > and =E2=80=9Capplied=E2=80=9D attributes are applicable in the command. = Both the > =E2=80=9Crefundable=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Capplied=E2=80=9D attributes inc= lude defaults, so they will have > values even if they are not explicitly set by the client. I=E2=80=99m as= suming > that the server should ignore these attributes if they are set in the > command, but I just want to confirm the expectation. > > Thanks, > > =E2=80=94 > > > JG > > > > > > *James Gould *Distinguished Engineer > jgould@Verisign.com > > 703-948-3271 > 12061 Bluemont Way > Reston, VA 20190 > > VerisignInc.com > > On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:47 AM, Gavin Brown > wrote: > > I've just submitted a new version of the fee extension draft for your > review. > > 9.4. Changes from 03 to 04 > > 1. Changed Intended Status to Standards Track. > > 2. As per suggestion from Michael Bauland, the element > is no longer included in and responses for > "restore" commands. It's still mandatory for all other commands. > > 3. Added summary of the attributes for the element. > > 4. Clarified that the "refundable" and "grace-period" attributes of > the fee elements are dependant on each other and cannot > appear on their own. > > 5. Removed the option of returning a 1001 response when the fee is > incorrect. > > 6. Forbidden the inclusion of extension elements in transform > responses if no fee/credit has been assessed. > > 7. Made the element optional in transform commands. > > 8. Amended XML Namespace section of IANA Considerations, added EPP > Extension Registry section. > > 10. TODO > > > (Note to RFC Editor: remove this section before publication as an > RFC.) > > 1. Make the extension object-agnostic so it can be used with other > objects, not just vanilla domains. > > 2. Change the command so that availability data is not > returned. > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 02:16:09 -0800 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: Gavin Brown > > A new version of I-D, draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt > has been successfully submitted by Gavin Brown and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-brown-epp-fees > Revision: 04 > Title: Registry Fee Extension for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol > (EPP) > Document date: 2015-02-17 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 36 > URL: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brown-epp-fees/ > Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-brown-epp-fees-04 > Diff: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-brown-epp-fees-0= 4 > > Abstract: > This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) > extension mapping for registry fees. > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > > -- > Gavin Brown > Chief Technology Officer > CentralNic Group plc (LSE:CNIC) > Innovative, Reliable and Flexible Registry Services > for ccTLD, gTLD and private domain name registries > https://www.centralnic.com/ > > CentralNic Group plc is a company registered in England and Wales with > company number 8576358. Registered Offices: 35-39 Moorgate, London, > EC2R 6AR. > > > > _______________________________________________ > EppExt mailing list > EppExt@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eppext > > > > _______________________________________________ > EppExt mailing list > EppExt@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eppext > > --=20 -Pat Moroney Sr. Software Engineer Name.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DV1GKGXXF12c 720-663-0025 --089e0158c57a61fcc6051549f0a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When performing a query command, if I receive a <fee:fe= e> in the response, I would expect to be able to pass the exact <fee:= fee> element back in the appropriate transform command. I would also exp= ect that all parameters that were passed would be validated.

=
This would allow us to know that the parameters of that fee have not b= een changed in the interval between the query command and the transform com= mand.

= On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Gould, James <JGould@verisign.com&g= t; wrote:
Gavin,=C2=A0

I wanted to point out one item that may require more text in the draft= to address.=C2=A0 The <fee:fee> element described in section 3.4 =E2= =80=9CFees and Credits=E2=80=9D covers its use when created by the server i= n the responses, but does not cover its use when created by the client in the transform commands (create, renew, transfer, and upda= te).=C2=A0 My recommendation is to add text to section 3.4 covering the use= case of the <fee:fee> element in the commands, since I don=E2=80=99t= believe that the =E2=80=9Cdescription=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Crefundable=E2=80= =9D, =E2=80=9Cgrace-period=E2=80=9D, and =E2=80=9Capplied=E2=80=9D attributes are applicable in the command.=C2= =A0 Both the =E2=80=9Crefundable=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Capplied=E2=80=9D att= ributes include defaults, so they will have values even if they are not exp= licitly set by the client.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m assuming that the server shoul= d ignore these attributes if they are set in the command, but I just want to confirm the expectation= . =C2=A0

Thanks,

<= span style=3D"font-size:15px">=E2=80=94


JG


<= br>
Jame= s Gould
Distinguished Engineer
jgould@Verisign.co= m

703-9= 48-3271
12061 Bluemont Way
Reston, VA 20190

VerisignInc.com

On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:47 AM, Gavin Brown <gavin.brown@centralnic.com> w= rote:

I've just submitted a new version of= the fee extension draft for your
review.

9.4. Changes from 03 to 04

=C2=A0=C2=A01.=C2=A0 Changed Intended Status to Standards Track.

=C2=A0=C2=A02.=C2=A0 As per suggestion from Michael Bauland, the <fee:pe= riod> element
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0is no longer included in <check> = and <info> responses for
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0"restore" commands.=C2=A0 It&= #39;s still mandatory for all other commands.

=C2=A0=C2=A03.=C2=A0 Added summary of the attributes for the <fee:fee>= ; element.

=C2=A0=C2=A04.=C2=A0 Clarified that the "refundable" and "gr= ace-period" attributes of
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0the <fee> fee elements are depend= ant on each other and cannot
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0appear on their own.

=C2=A0=C2=A05.=C2=A0 Removed the option of returning a 1001 response when t= he fee is
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0incorrect.

=C2=A0=C2=A06.=C2=A0 Forbidden the inclusion of extension elements in trans= form
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0responses if no fee/credit has been ass= essed.

=C2=A0=C2=A07.=C2=A0 Made the <fee:currency> element optional in tran= sform commands.

=C2=A0=C2=A08.=C2=A0 Amended XML Namespace section of IANA Considerations, = added EPP
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Extension Registry section.

10. TODO


=C2=A0=C2=A0(Note to RFC Editor: remove this section before publication as = an
=C2=A0=C2=A0RFC.)

=C2=A0=C2=A01.=C2=A0 Make the extension object-agnostic so it can be used w= ith other
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0objects, not just vanilla domains.

=C2=A0=C2=A02.=C2=A0 Change the <check> command so that availability = data is not
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0returned.

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 02:16:09 -0800
From: interne= t-drafts@ietf.org
To: Gavin Brown <gavin.brown@centralnic.com>

A new version of I-D, draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt
has been successfully submitted by Gavin Brown and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name: draft-brown-epp-fees
Revision: 04
Title: Registry Fee Extension for the Extensible Provisioning = Protocol
(EPP)
Document date: 2015-02-17
Group: Individual Submission
Pages: 36
URL:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-brown-epp-fees= -04.txt
Status: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0https://d= atatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brown-epp-fees/
Htmlized: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0http://tools.ietf.org/h= tml/draft-brown-epp-fees-04
Diff: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-brown-epp-fees-04

Abstract:
=C2=A0=C2=A0This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EP= P)
=C2=A0=C2=A0extension mapping for registry fees.





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--
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Innovative, Reliable and Flexible Registry Services
for ccTLD, gTLD and private domain name registries
https://www.centr= alnic.com/

CentralNic Group plc is a company registered in England and Wales with
company number 8576358. Registered Offices: 35-39 Moorgate, London,
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I want to review your reseller drafts on Wednesday. Please no= t that SIDN also wanted to release their EPP Reseller drafts, but I=E2=80= =99ll check our reseller=0A mapping with your suggestions. So =E2=80=98til= l Wednesday.

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CNNIC proposed a EPP reseller extension on= the last ROW meeting. Based on this proposal, two drafts were submitted.&= nbsp;

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draft-zhou-eppext-reseller is abou= t the reseller extensions of EPP for domain names, hosts and contacts.&nbs= p;draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping=0A is a document that describes the E= PP reseller object mapping.<= /o:p>

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        Title&n= bsp;          : Registry Rese= ller Extension for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)

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or=0A X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939E51A88BD for ; Sat, 16 May 2015 18:31:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.388 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.388 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, J_CHICKENPOX_64=0.6, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O_Q0MRCtacwU for ; Sat, 16 May 2015 18:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaktot.patoche.org (shaktot.patoche.org [212.85.152.86]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F5101A889F for ; Sat, 16 May 2015 18:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaktot.patoche.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by shaktot.patoche.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id t4H1Vbgu022698 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 17 May 2015 03:31:37 +0200 Received: (from patrick@localhost) by shaktot.patoche.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id t4H1VaRx022697; Sun, 17 May 2015 03:31:36 +0200 Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 03:31:35 +0200 From: Patrick Mevzek To: eppext@ietf.org Message-ID: <20150517013135.GA27144@home.patoche.org> References: <20150504162934440371144@cnnic.cn> <20150517001433.GA26237@home.patoche.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150517001433.GA26237@home.patoche.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Scanned-By: shaktot_dot_patoche_dot_org on 212.85.152.86 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-00.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 01:31:47 -0000 Patrick Mevzek 2015-05-17 02:15 > Hello Linlin, Ning, Chao, Xiaodong, and James, > > Linlin Zhou 2015-05-04 10:28 > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > > > > > > Title : Registry Reseller Extension for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) > > Authors : Linlin Zhou > > Ning Kong > > Chao Qi > > Xiaodong Lee > > James Gould > > Filename : draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-00.txt > > Pages : 16 > > Date : 2015-05-04 > > I'm implementing it in my opensource EPP client, and I have the > following comments/questions: Also: - the XML example in the domain:info response is invalid: should be -- Patrick Mevzek From nobody Sat May 16 18:36:36 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B2C1A88B8 for ; 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Sun, 17 May 2015 03:35:08 +0200 Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 03:35:07 +0200 From: Patrick Mevzek To: eppext@ietf.org Message-ID: <20150517013507.GB27144@home.patoche.org> References: <20150504162934440371144@cnnic.cn> <20150517001433.GA26237@home.patoche.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150517001433.GA26237@home.patoche.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Scanned-By: shaktot_dot_patoche_dot_org on 212.85.152.86 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-00.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 01:36:35 -0000 Patrick Mevzek 2015-05-17 02:15 > - I'm not sure to understand completely the update case. > In short, in my understanding, I would expect that there would be a > sentence stating that "only one add, or rem or chg element is > permitted", so that there are not mix of add/rem/chg, because in that > later case it would be difficult to understand what happens. The comments in the XML schema are strange: -- Patrick Mevzek From nobody Sun May 17 20:58:12 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830A11A07BD for ; Sun, 17 May 2015 20:58:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.389 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.389 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_57=0.6, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6InoRktBygU9 for ; Sun, 17 May 2015 20:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp13.cnnic.cn [218.241.118.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22941A0AFE for ; Sun, 17 May 2015 20:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Foxmail 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> -----=E5=8E=9F=E5=A7=8B=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6-----=0A> =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: "Patrick Mevzek" <pm@dotandco.com&g= t;=0A
> =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2015-05-17 08:14:33 (= =E6=98=9F=E6=9C=9F=E6=97=A5)=0A
> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: eppex= t@ietf.org=0A
> =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: =0A
> =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: = Re: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-00.txt=0A
> = =0A
> Hello Linlin, Ning, Chao, Xiaodong, and James,=0A
> =0A<= br>> Linlin Zhou <zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn> 2015-05-04 10:28=0A
>= ; > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories.=0A
> > =0A
> > =0A
> > T= itle : Registry Reseller Extension for the Extensible Provisioni= ng Protocol (EPP)=0A
> > Authors : Linlin Zhou=0A=
> > Ning Kong=0A
> > = Chao Qi=0A
> > Xiaodo= ng Lee=0A
> > James Gould=0A
> &g= t; Filename : draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-00.txt=0A
> > Pag= es : 16=0A
> > Date : 2015-05-04=0A
> = =0A
> I'm implementing it in my opensource EPP client, and I have t= he=0A
> following comments/questions:=0A
> =0A
> - the r= esName node is of type "string", without any lower limit of=0A
> l= ength, I believe it would make sense to mandate at least one=0A
> ch= aracter=E2=80=A6=0A
> 

> - I'm not sure to understand completely th= e update case.=0A
> In short, in my understanding, I would expect th= at there would be a=0A
> sentence stating that "only one add, or rem= or chg element is=0A
> permitted", so that there are not mix of add= /rem/chg, because in that=0A
> later case it would be difficult to u= nderstand what happens.=0A
> Also in that case there should be expla= nations on what happens when=0A
> the registrar does an add where th= e domain already has a reseller (for=0A
> me that should be rejected= , because a registrar should do a chg in=0A
> that case), and what h= appens for a del where the domain has no=0A
> reseller (this could b= e handled as a noop), and what happens for a chg=0A
> where there is= no reseller for now (this should be rejected)=0A
> =0A
Yes, this= should be "only one" element, I'll make it explicitely.
Yes, it is similar to the postalAddress problem. I thi= nk this is also a registry policy issue. For example, many registries do n= ot allow to updat ID only. You must update ID and at least a name.<= /div>
I'd like to = see more feedbacks from WG. If this problem indeed makes others confused, = I'll try to add some text next version.
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>= Patrick Mevzek=0A
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Regards,
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Linlin Zhou
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Date: 2015-05-17 09:35
To: eppext
Subject: Re:= [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-00.txt
Patrick Mevzek <pm@dotandco.com> 2015-05-17 02:15
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> - I'm not sure to understand completely the update case.=0A
> In short, in my understanding, I would expect that there wou= ld be a
=0A
> sentence stating that "only one add, or rem or c= hg element is
=0A
> permitted", so that there are not mix of a= dd/rem/chg, because in that
=0A
> later case it would be diffi= cult to understand what happens.
=0A
 
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The comm= ents in the XML schema are strange:
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<!--
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Chil= d elements of <reseller:update> command
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Cannot be added= or removed, only change is allowed
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At least one element shou= ld be present
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-->
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From: <= a href=3D"mailto:pm@dotandco.com">Patrick Mevzek
Date: 2015-05-17 09:31
To: eppext
Subject: Re: [eppext] Fw:= I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-00.txt
= Patrick Mevzek <pm@dotandco.com> 2015-05-17 02:15
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> = Hello Linlin, Ning, Chao, Xiaodong, and James,
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>
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> Linlin Zhou <zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn> 2015-05-04 10:28
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> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Inter= net-Drafts directories.
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> &g= t; 
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> >       =   Title           := Registry Reseller Extension for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP= )
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> >         A= uthors         : Linlin Zhou
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> >         &nb= sp;            = ;     Ning Kong
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> >  &nbs= p;            =             Chao Qi=
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> >        &nb= sp;            = ;      Xiaodong Lee
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> > &= nbsp;           &nb= sp;            = ; James Gould
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> > Filename     = ;   : draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-00.txt
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> > P= ages           : 16=0A
> > Date        &nb= sp;   : 2015-05-04
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> 
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> I'= m implementing it in my opensource EPP client, and I have the
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- the XML example in the domain:info response= is invalid:
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<domain:infData xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:= ns:domain-1.0">
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should be
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<domain:infData = xmlns:domain=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:domain-1.0">
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Patrick Mevzek
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+0200 Received: (from patrick@localhost) by shaktot.patoche.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id t4IEFqmH000542; Mon, 18 May 2015 16:15:52 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 16:15:51 +0200 From: Patrick Mevzek To: eppext@ietf.org Message-ID: <20150518141551.GA10658@home.patoche.org> References: <20150504162934440371144@cnnic.cn> <20150517001433.GA26237@home.patoche.org> <2015051812000406846958@cnnic.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <2015051812000406846958@cnnic.cn> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Scanned-By: shaktot_dot_patoche_dot_org on 212.85.152.86 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-00.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 14:17:39 -0000 Linlin Zhou 2015-05-18 05:59 > > - there should be some explanations on what happens for a domain > > name > > with a reseller that get transfered to another registrar (where > > obvisouly the given previous reseller would not exist). Will the > > reseller info be automatically removed after the transfer > > finishes? > > > If a domain is transfered to a new registrar, the registrar or > reseller will do a domian update operation to update the > corresponding reseller information. Not necessarily possible, if the new registrar does not use at all the resellerext EPP extension… and I doubt that a registry could mandate all registrars to use it. And even if he uses the extension, what mandates him to update the domain? Technically, nothing. If the reseller info is displayed somewhere (whois, escrow, etc…), then a wrong information would be shown. This is the same problem as a transfer with secDNS information. So it will probably be a registry policy, but we may have some scenarios where the reseller info will be kept through the transfer, and other scenarios where it will be wiped out (and if the new registrar wants to specify its own reseller he will do a domain:update afterwards). But maybe the draft should have a sentence about that. 2 other points while I'm at it and implementing your other draft: - I will post comments later on your other drafts - I believe there should be somewhere an explanation on how your two drafts articulate between themselves. My understanding is that registrars will create reseller objets with the reseller mapping I-D, and then create domains with the resellerID for the reseller object they created previsouly. If that is not what is intended, some clarifications should be added somewhere. -- Patrick Mevzek From nobody Mon May 18 08:48:13 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607BD1AC401 for ; Mon, 18 May 2015 08:48:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nz5qozGnLicH for ; Mon, 18 May 2015 08:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlin.blacknight.ie (merlin.blacknight.ie [81.17.240.211]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1281AC3FE for ; Mon, 18 May 2015 08:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [81.17.243.239] (hegemon.blacknight.ie [81.17.243.239]) by merlin.blacknight.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A9A59C003 for ; Mon, 18 May 2015 16:47:52 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <555A09AA.2030604@blacknight.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 16:47:54 +0100 From: Keith Gaughan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eppext@ietf.org References: <20150217101609.7180.94307.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <54E32A6A.2050905@centralnic.com> In-Reply-To: <54E32A6A.2050905@centralnic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [eppext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-brown-epp-fees-04.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 15:48:12 -0000 On 17/02/15 11:47, Gavin Brown wrote: > I've just submitted a new version of the fee extension draft for > your review. To make it easier for a registrar to tell whether or not a domain is being given premium pricing (as opposed to some pricing tier), I would suggest the following change regarding the element in 3.7: If the domain is being charged at the standard fee, then the reserved fee class 'standard' class MUST be used. Omitting the element indicates that the domain is subject to bespoke pricing. I'm open to ideas on this change. My main reason for suggesting this is to ensure that for domains subject to standard pricing, there's a single standard mechanism for indicating this. I tried formulating it in such a way as to minimise potential incompatibility with existing implementations. I also wanted to clarify what omitting the element might mean, as this is left undefined and could mean anything. K. -- Keith Gaughan, Development Lead; PGP/GPG key ID: D5FC9D23 Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd. 12A Barrowside Business Park, Carlow, Ireland Registered in Ireland, Company No.: 370845 From nobody Mon May 18 19:28:49 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B001B2D42 for ; Mon, 18 May 2015 19:28:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.389 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.389 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_84=0.6, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7sOubSTtw1pN for ; Mon, 18 May 2015 19:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp13.cnnic.cn [218.241.118.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F711B2D2E for ; 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Hi James,

Thanks for your feedback.

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> I would match the resellerext:resNa= me element of draft-zhou-eppext-reseller with the reseller:name element of=  draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping, which is of type contact:postalL= ineType.  Within draft-zhou-eppext-reseller  I would direct= ly define the resName type in the schema in place of creating a dependency= to the contact mapping.  For example:=0A
> <element n= ame=3D"resName" type=3D=E2=80=9Cresellerext:resNameType"/>=0A
> &= lt;simpleType name=3D=E2=80=9CresNameType">=0A
> <restriction = base=3D"normalizedString">=0A
> <minLength value=3D"1"/>=0A=
> <maxLength value=3D"255"/>=0A
> </restriction>= =0A
> </simpleType>=0A
>
Yes, this is the revised resNam= e xml schema.

>
...
> > > - I'm not sure to understand c= ompletely the update case.=0A
> > > In short, in my understand= ing, I would expect that there would be a=0A
> > > sentence st= ating that "only one add, or rem or chg element is=0A
> > > pe= rmitted", so that there are not mix of add/rem/chg, because in that=0A
= > > > later case it would be difficult to understand what happens= .=0A
> > > Also in that case there should be explanations on w= hat happens when=0A
> > > the registrar does an add where the = domain already has a reseller (for=0A
> > > me that should be = rejected, because a registrar should do a chg in=0A
> > > that= case), and what happens for a del where the domain has no=0A
> >= > reseller (this could be handled as a noop), and what happens for a c= hg=0A
> > > where there is no reseller for now (this should be= rejected)=0A
> > >=0A
> > Yes, this should be "only = one" element, I'll make it explicitely.=0A
> > The three examples= you mentioned should be rejected. Error codes defined in RFC5730 sho= uld be included in the response.=0A
> =0A
> This could be simp= lified by just supporting a <resellerext:update> element that takes = the <resellerext:resID> element along with the optional <reseller= ext:resName> element to set or replace the existing value and with the = support for an empty <resellerext:update> element to clear or remove= the reseller as in <resellerext:update xmlns:resellerext=3D=E2=80=9Cur= n:ietf:params:xml:ns:resellerext-1.0=E2=80=9D/>.  The semantics of= add and remove really don=E2=80=99t apply if there is a one to one relati= onship between the provisioning object and the reseller.  =0A
>= =0A
I agree with you that this method is more simplified. I'll conside= r updating the text.

Regards,
Linlin

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Hi Patrick,

> -----=E5=8E=9F=E5=A7=8B=E9=82=AE= =E4=BB=B6-----=0A
> =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: "Patrick Mevzek" &l= t;pm@dotandco.com>=0A
> =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 201= 5-05-18 22:15:51 (=E6=98=9F=E6=9C=9F=E4=B8=80)=0A
> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB= =B6=E4=BA=BA: eppext@ietf.org=0A
> =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: =0A
> = =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reselle= r-00.txt=0A
> =0A
> Linlin Zhou <zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn> 20= 15-05-18 05:59=0A
> > > - there should be some explanations on= what happens for a domain=0A
> > > name=0A
> > > = with a reseller that get transfered to another registrar (where=0A
>= > > obvisouly the given previous reseller would not exist). Will th= e=0A
> > > reseller info be automatically removed after the tr= ansfer=0A
> > > finishes?=0A
> > >=0A
> >= If a domain is transfered to a new registrar, the registrar or=0A
>= > reseller will do a domian update operation to update the=0A
> = > corresponding reseller information.=0A
> =0A
> Not necess= arily possible, if the new registrar does not use at all the=0A
> re= sellerext EPP extension=E2=80=A6 and I doubt that a registry could mandate= =0A
> all registrars to use it.=0A
> And even if he uses the e= xtension, what mandates him to update the =0A
> domain? Technically,= nothing. If the reseller info is displayed =0A
> somewhere (whois, = escrow, etc=E2=80=A6), then a wrong information would be =0A
> shown= .=0A
> =0A
> This is the same problem as a transfer with secDN= S information.=0A
> =0A
> So it will probably be a registry po= licy, but we may have some =0A
> scenarios where the reseller info w= ill be kept through the transfer, =0A
> and other scenarios where it= will be wiped out (and if the new =0A
> registrar wants to specify = its own reseller he will do a domain:update=0A
> afterwards).=0A
= > But maybe the draft should have a sentence about that.=0A
>&nbs= p;
I = understand your consideration. I agree that some text should be added to c= larify this problem. What do you think about James' suggested text?&= nbsp;
"This extension does not add any elements to the EPP <= ;transfer> command or <transfer> response described in the [RFC57= 30], but after a successful transfer of an object with an assigned reselle= r, the server SHOULD clear the assigned reseller value."
=
> 2 = other points while I'm at it and implementing your other draft:=0A
>= - I will post comments later on your other drafts 
= Comments are welcome.<= /span>

&= gt; - I believe there should be somewhere an explanation on how your two = =0A
> drafts articulate between themselves. My understanding is th= at =0A
> registrars will create reseller objets with the reseller ma= pping I-D,=0A
> and then create domains with the resellerID for the = reseller object=0A
> they created previsouly. If that is not what is= intended, some=0A
> clarifications should be added somewhere.=0A> 
Yes, you are right. This is what I am thinking about. There should = be some text to describe the relationship between the two drafts. I intend= to add a sentence in the intrduction section, such as "A reseller mapping= object defined in [ID.draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-ma= pping] SHOULD be created first. The reseller informa= tion specified in this document SHOULD reference the existing reseller ide= ntifier and reseller name." 
Then ind= icate the specified elements defined in draft-zhou-eppext= -reseller-mapping in section 3.1 and 3.2. For e= xample:

3.1. Reseller Identifier=0A
=0A
Reseller identifier provides = the ID of the reseller of a sponsoring=0A
registrar. Its correspond= ing element is <resellerext:resID> defined=0A
in this document= . It refers to the <reseller:id> e= lement defined in [ID.draft-zh= ou-eppext-reseller-mapping].
=0A
3.2. Reseller Name=0A
=0A
Resell= er name provides the name of the reseller of a sponsoring=0A
registr= ar. Its corresponding element is <resellerext:resName>=0A
def= ined in this document. It refers to the &l= t;reseller:name> element defined in [ID.draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping].

Regards,
Linlin
<= div>=0A
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8bit In-Reply-To: <20150504163015350439147@cnnic.cn> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Scanned-By: shaktot_dot_patoche_dot_org on 212.85.152.86 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping-00.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 17:13:27 -0000 Hello Linlin, Ning, Chao, Xiaodong and James, Linlin Zhou 2015-05-04 10:28 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > > > Title : Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) Reseller Mapping > Authors : Linlin Zhou > Ning Kong > Chao Qi > Xiaodong Lee > James Gould > Filename : draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping-00.txt I'm implementing it in my opensource EPP client and I have the following comments/questions: - I'm not sure to successfully parse this sentence: "This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) mapping for provisioning and management of registry reseller stored in a shared central repository." Isn't a word missing somewhere after "stored"? Why are you speaking about "registry reseller" where resellers depend on registrars (which is exactly what you descrive in section 1)? You have again "registry resellers" on the next sentence. But never again later in the document… - "3.4. Parent Identifier" There should be a sentence prohibiting loops: if reseller A has B as parentId, reseller B must not have reseller A as parentId Maybe also add a sentence explaining that it is allowed (or denied) to have parentId relationship between 2 resellers objects without the same clID? - comparing with the resellerext I-D, I find it that what is called "resID" there is called only "id" here. I would recommand to use the same node name in both case, since it is the same underlying data. I would prefer "id" everywhere. Same for "resName" vs "name". I would favor "name" everywhere. - reseller state: to be more inline with the rest of core EPP I would advise to use the "status" node name, instead of "state" also to stretch things a little more and use standards statuses, why not 'inactive' instead of 'terminated' and 'serverUpdateProhibited' instead of 'readonly'? - "3.6. Disclosure of Data Elements and Attributes This document supports the same disclosure features described in Section 2.9 of with the use of the element. [RFC5733]." There is probably a wording issue there. In all cases, the online version has an hyperlink on "Section 2.9" pointing to the same document, which of course does not have a section numbered 2.9 - in the reseller:info response : "Zero or more OPTIONAL elements" : there is no explanation on the "type" attribute which is there in the XML schema, so something should be added - for the second XML example in 4.1.2, I believe that the voice:email should not be there, if I understand correctly what should happen for the non-sponsoring client, since voice:email is in the disclose flag=0 node However this brings additionnal question : what happens if reseller:name is in disclose flag=0 and hence should not displayed in the result, but since it is mandatory per the XML schema ? also, should the disclose element be seen by the non sponsoring client? (it helps him to see if an element is absent because it is optional or because it is withdrawn due to the disclose policy) I believe that the current consensus around disclose in EPP is that it does not work well. AFAIK no registry really use it. Is it really useful to add it for these new reseller objects? - §4.2 first paragraph says " to manage reseller-object sponsorship changes" while later we read : 4.2.4. EPP Command Transfer semantics do not apply to reseller objects, so there is no mapping defined for the EPP command. So are transfers possible or not ? Also I believe that the 2nd paragraph of §4.2 has no value there. It seems to be a copy and paste from RFC5731, I do not see its value/relation to this reseller I-D. - create operation XSD schema has for discloseType : whoisInfo is never used nor described in the text… also, more a matter of taste, but why having name/org/street/etc… data attached directly to the reseller object? why not put that in a contact, like type "main" or whatever and just put the contact id? This would simplify everything a lot, instead of having to redefine all elements already present in the contact-1.0 namespace In any case I have not double checked, but I hope that the contact/postalInfo & so have the same XML definitions in the reseller schema than in the contact schema. - delete "A reseller object SHOULD NOT be deleted if it is associated with other known objects." Does that sentence apply to the parentId (meaning that a delete for a reseller that is used as parentId by other resellers would be denied) ? Or to other associations? In that later cases, there should be more details since I believe the document does not speak about any other kind of associations regarding reseller objects. Or is there a relationship with the resellerext I-D, where a given reseller ID may be tied to a domain? - update the addRemType has maxOccurs="3" why ? I see the create one has the same, but there is no explanations on that value anywhere. It is either 1 admin contact and 1 billing mandatory, in which case it should be maxOccurs="2" in both cases, or is it up registry policy to define amount of contacts, in which case you should not have a maxOccurs at all? The schema specifies admin tech and billing as valid types, but it is not defined which are mandatory and which are optional? Is this completely under registry policy? "A element contains the following OPTIONAL child elements." but then later on you repeat OPTIONAL for some child elements, so these later ones should probably be removed - the update example has : C: C: C: C: it should be instead. Regards, -- Patrick Mevzek From nobody Sun May 24 15:09:03 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E1E1AD378 for ; Sun, 24 May 2015 15:09:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.788 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.788 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CxrwRri33MhC for ; Sun, 24 May 2015 15:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaktot.patoche.org (shaktot.patoche.org [212.85.152.86]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5B671AD37C for ; Sun, 24 May 2015 15:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaktot.patoche.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by shaktot.patoche.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id t4OM8keu020059 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 25 May 2015 00:08:46 +0200 Received: (from patrick@localhost) by shaktot.patoche.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id t4OM8jhC020058; Mon, 25 May 2015 00:08:45 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 00:08:44 +0200 From: Patrick Mevzek To: eppext@ietf.org Message-ID: <20150524220844.GA12639@home.patoche.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Scanned-By: shaktot_dot_patoche_dot_org on 212.85.152.86 Archived-At: Cc: Alexander Mayrhofer Subject: [eppext] Implementation of draft-mayrhofer-eppext-servicemessage-00.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 22:09:02 -0000 Hello Alexander, I'm implementing your draft draft-mayrhofer-eppext-servicemessage-00.txt in the Net::DRI EPP client. I have the following feedback: - while making no change technically, I would strongly recommend to defined another namespace, to convey more information. I'm specifically concerned on the "resData" part which seems to me too generic. Maybe something called "servicemessage" like the draft name itself? - "their contents MUST be from the same EPP transaction." You should defined "EPP transaction". Why not just saying that the response element, if present must be the response given by the server to the "request" element? RFC5730 speaks more of command/response instead of request/response. ("An EPP client interacts with an EPP server by sending a command to the server and receiving a response from the server.") For homogeneity, shouldn't you use command instead of request? - the first example in §3.3 still has resData-1.0 while the draft defines resData-1.1 - I fear it to be too generic, specifically that part: An OPTIONAL "any other" element from "any other" namespace which is exhibited by this example: indeed as noted, if things go forward, the node should disappear since the response node is defined as possible direct child of data. - in your first example you have: […] The xsi namespace declaration should be put on the epp node instead. Also the domain namespace is not defined anywhere. Also for this example, the only one where is not the only child of you may wish to give some advices to know if for this specific case it is expected to have both trnData & message in the same notification, or if it may happen/if it is allowed that they are carried separately in 2 messages. - I believe you should add an example with the reftrID element Especially in the third case (type=ResponseRecovered), shouldn't there be a reftrID element with the clTRID/svTRID from the inner message? - for the ResponseRecovered type, should the client expect that the message qDate corresponds to when the connection has been interrupted? If not, for example if the message is asynchronously added by the registry, shouldn't there be somewhere a timestamp telling when the connection was broken and the messages generated? Also, I believe there should be some considerations added for this case: when some registrars are attempting to do operations as fast as possible, during races (domain name grabbing, landrushes, etc…) with this feature some registrars may decide to cut (on the TLS level) the connection as soon as their message is sent in order not to wait for the server reply nor parse it at that time since they know they will get the server reply anyway later through a service message. So going for a rare case and a failback, this case can become the standard way of operating, which is probably not suited. The specification should discuss that I believe, even if it is mostly registry policy. - I believe the 4th example shows the problem with a simple list of key/value: serverUpdateProhibited testcase comment freeze (2014-12-28T13:48:22.097813Z) serverTransferProhibited testcase comment freeze (2014-12-28T13:48:22.097813Z) entries are linked together, each comment is probably specific to its previous sibling. This may be obvious for a human in this example, but makes no generic way for a computer to derive this. So another schema should be found if possible. It strikes me specifically for the status element since the core EPP already allows an optional free text attached to status values… HTH, -- Patrick Mevzek From nobody Mon May 25 02:20:50 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA121A88F8 for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 02:20:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.99 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.99 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_55=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_84=0.6, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XdFUoGFGqnid for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 02:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp13.cnnic.cn 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Hi Patrick,
Following is my feedback. Thanks for reviewing.

Regards,
Linlin

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> =E5=8F=91= =E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: "Patrick Mevzek" <pm@dotandco.com> 
>= =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2015-05-25 01:13:07 (=E6=98=9F=E6= =9C=9F=E4=B8=80) 
> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: eppext@ietf.or= g 
> =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: 
> =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: = [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping-00.txt > 
> Hello Linlin, Ning, Chao, Xiaodong and James, > 
> Linlin Zhou <zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn> 2015-05-04 10= :28 
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line = Internet-Drafts directories. 
> > 
> > > > Title : Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) Reseller Mappin= g 
> > Authors : Linlin Zhou 
> > Ning Kong&nb= sp;
> > Chao Qi 
> > Xiaodong Lee 
> >= ; James Gould 
> > Filename : draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-map= ping-00.txt 
> 
> I'm implementing it in my opensour= ce EPP client and I have the 
> following comments/questions:&n= bsp;
> 
> - I'm not sure to successfully parse this sente= nce: 
> "This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Pro= tocol (EPP) 
> mapping for provisioning and management of regis= try reseller stored 
> in a shared central repository." > 
> Isn't a word missing somewhere after "stored"? <= /span>
Accut= ually I tried to follow the sentences in the introduction section discribe= d in RFC5731, RFC5732 & RFC5733. I don't quite understand what do you = mean by "missing a word"?

> Why are you speaking about "registry reseller" w= here resellers depend 
> on registrars (which is exactly what y= ou descrive in section 1)? 
> You have again "registry reseller= s" on the next sentence. But never 
> again later in the docume= nt=E2=80=A6 
> 
Yes, this phrase is slightly inaccurate. I'll c= heck it.

> - "3.4. Parent Identifier" 
> There should be a se= ntence prohibiting loops: if reseller A has B as 
> parentId, r= eseller B must not have reseller A as parentId 
> <= /div>
I agree with= you that loop should be prohibited. Thanks for the text.

> Maybe also a= dd a sentence explaining that it is allowed (or denied) to 
> h= ave parentId relationship between 2 resellers objects without the > same clID? 
> 
Generally speaking, the N-tier reseller an= d its child reseller usually have the same clID. In my opinion, I try not = to specify the policy on the parentID relationship in this extension. &nbs= p;A registry could decide whether or not to support it.
<= span style=3D"background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);">
> - comparing wi= th the resellerext I-D, I find it that what is called 
> "resID= " there is called only "id" here. I would recommand to use the 
&g= t; same node name in both case, since it is the same underlying data. = ;
> I would prefer "id" everywhere. 
> Same for "resName"= vs "name". I would favor "name" everywhere. 
> 
We first condu= cted the resellerext I-D draft. Then with a deep discussion, the reseller = object mapping is felt also necessary. As you mentioned the object naming,= we should consider the consistency between the two drafts.
 
> - re= seller state: to be more inline with the rest of core EPP I would > advise to use the "status" node name, instead of "state" 
&g= t; 
> also to stretch things a little more and use standards st= atuses, 
> why not 'inactive' instead of 'terminated' and =
> 'serverUpdateProhibited' instead of 'readonly'? 
>&nbs= p;
Our original intention is to avoid the confusion with = the core EPP status element. So the element name and values are all diffen= rent from the core EPP. 
I think 'serverUpdateProhibited' m= ay have the similar meaning with 'readonly'. But 'terminated' means <= span style=3D"background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); font-size: 10.5pt; line-= height: 1.5;">query and tranform commands of a particular reseller are pro= hibited, while 'inactive' is a status value descibed in RFC5731 to indicat= e that no delegation information is associated with the object. We feel th= at they are not totally the same in our understanding.

> - "3.6. Disclos= ure of Data Elements and Attributes 
> 
> This docum= ent supports the same disclosure features described in 
> Secti= on 2.9 of with the use of the <reseller:disclose> element. 
= > [RFC5733]." 
> 
> There is probably a wording i= ssue there. In all cases, the online 
> version has an hyperlin= k on "Section 2.9" pointing to the same 
> document, which of c= ourse does not have a section numbered 2.9 
> 
Sorry. This shou= ld be the section 2.9 of [RFC5733].

> - in the reseller:info response :&= nbsp;
> "Zero or more OPTIONAL <reseller:contact> elements" : = there is no 
> explanation on the "type" attribute which is the= re in the XML schema, 
> so something should be added 
= > 
OK.

> - for the second XML example in 4.1.2, I believe that the vo= ice:email 
> should not be there, if I understand correctly wha= t should happen 
> for the non-sponsoring client, since voice:e= mail is in the disclose 
> flag=3D0 node 
Yes, you are correct.= I'll remove the email info in the text.

> However this brings additionn= al question : 
> what happens if reseller:name is in disclose f= lag=3D0 and hence should 
> not displayed in the result, but si= nce it is 
> mandatory per the XML schema ? 
<= div>The de= finition of disclosure refers to RFC5733= . I think the contact object may have the same issue.  Maybe let the = registry to decide is the best way to solve this problem.

> also, should the disclose element be seen by the = non sponsoring 
> client? (it helps him to see if an element is= absent because it is 
> optional or because it is withdrawn du= e to the disclose policy) 
> 
The disclos= e element should not be seen by non-sponsoring client. Thanks for pointing= it out.

> I believe that the current consensus around disclose in E= PP is 
> that it does not work well. AFAIK no registry really u= se it. 
> Is it really useful to add it for these new reseller = objects? 
> 
We agree that 'disclose' is not highly adopted by = registries and may add additional complexity. 'Disclosure' is not the key = part for reseller mapping. Actually we hope to find some other feasible an= d acceptable methods to implement data collection policy in WG discussion.=

= > - =C2=A74.2 first paragraph says 
> "<transfer> to m= anage 
> reseller-object sponsorship changes" 
> whi= le later we read : 
> 4.2.4. EPP <transfer> Command =
> 
> Transfer semantics do not apply to reseller objects= , so there is no 
> mapping defined for the EPP <transfer>= ; command. 
> 
> So are transfers possible or not ?&= nbsp;
> 
> Also I believe that the 2nd paragraph of =C2=A74.2 has= no value there. It 
> seems to be a copy and paste from RFC573= 1, I do not see its 
> value/relation to this reseller I-D.&nbs= p;
> 
The transfer command is not supported in this extension. I'll = update the words in the first paragraph.
To keep consist = with other core EPP, the sencond paragraph is added here. I think reseller= is an object similar with contact, the transform process should be the sa= me. So I suggest retaining it.

> - create operation 
> 
>= XSD schema has for discloseType : 
> <element name=3D"url" = minOccurs=3D"0"/> 
> <element name=3D"whoisInfo" minOccur= s=3D"0"/> 
> <element name=3D"contact" minOccurs=3D"0"/&g= t; 
> 
> whoisInfo is never used nor described in th= e text=E2=80=A6 
> 
Yes, this should be removed.

> also, more= a matter of taste, but why having name/org/street/etc=E2=80=A6 data =
> attached directly to the reseller object? 
> why not p= ut that in a contact, like type "main" or whatever and just 
> = put the contact id? 
> This would simplify everything a lot, in= stead of having to redefine 
> all elements already present in = the contact-1.0 namespace 
> 
> In any case I have not doubl= e checked, but I hope that the 
> contact/postalInfo & so h= ave the same XML definitions in the reseller 
> schema than in = the contact schema. 
> 
Supposing we defi= ne a main contact to put these information, if this contact is a admin con= tact of a domain as well, the contact may have different disclose data col= lection policy defined in domain mapping and reseller mapping seperately. = This may  add extra complexity for registries to implement the resell= er extension.
In addition, the reseller postalInfo is not totall= y the same with the one defined in RFC5733. The 'org' element is removed. = We do not think that a reseller would be an individual that is not represe= nted by an orgnization.

> - delete 
> "A reseller object = SHOULD NOT be deleted if it is associated with 
> other known o= bjects." 
> Does that sentence apply to the parentId (meaning t= hat a delete for a 
> reseller that is used as parentId by othe= r resellers would be denied) 
> ? 
> Or to other ass= ociations? 
> In that later cases, there should be more details= since I believe the 
> document does not speak about any other= kind of associations regarding 
> reseller objects. 
&= gt; Or is there a relationship with the resellerext I-D, where a given&nbs= p;
> reseller ID may be tied to a domain? 
> =
One possibl= e situation is the N-tier reseller relationship. The other is the reseller= associated with a domain, host or contact object specified in resellerext= I-D.

> - update 
> the addRemType has 
> maxOccur= s=3D"3" 
> why ? 
> I see the create one has the sam= e, but there is no explanations on 
> that value anywhere. = ;
> It is either 1 admin contact and 1 billing mandatory, in which c= ase it 
> should be maxOccurs=3D"2" in both cases, or is it up = registry policy to 
> define amount of contacts, in which case = you should not have a 
> maxOccurs at all? 
> The sc= hema specifies admin tech and billing as valid types, but it is 
&= gt; not defined which are mandatory and which are optional? Is this <= br>> completely under registry policy? 
> 
=
The XML schema is as follows, 3 types of contact are defined, so the maxOccurs is 3..
<simpleTyp= e name=3D"contactAttrType">
    <= restriction base=3D"token">
    &nbs= p; <enumeration value=3D"admin"/>
  &n= bsp;   <enumeration value=3D"billing"/>
      <enumeration value=3D"tech"/= >
    </restriction>
&nbs= p;  </simpleType>
 We do not wan= t to specify which one is mandatory. According to your qu= estion, we could remove the manOccurs limitation. 
<= span style=3D"background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);">> 
> "A &= lt;reseller:chg> element contains the following OPTIONAL child > elements." 
> 
> but then later on you repeat = OPTIONAL for some child elements, so 
> these later ones should= probably be removed 
> 
OK.

> - the update ex= ample has : 
> C: <reseller:disclose flag=3D"1"> > C: <reseller:voice/> 
> C: <reseller:email/>&= nbsp;
> C: </contact:disclose> 
> 
> it = should be </reseller:disclose> instead. 
> 
Yes.
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=0A ------=_001_NextPart734883622134_=------ From nobody Mon May 25 07:47:48 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F1F1A902D for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 07:47:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.988 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.988 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, J_CHICKENPOX_64=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_66=0.6, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mq85BMvkmiOE for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 07:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaktot.patoche.org (shaktot.patoche.org [212.85.152.86]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 918BB1A902B for ; Mon, 25 May 2015 07:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaktot.patoche.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by shaktot.patoche.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id t4PEjON5009153 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 25 May 2015 16:45:24 +0200 Received: (from patrick@localhost) by shaktot.patoche.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id t4PEjN7R009152; Mon, 25 May 2015 16:45:23 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 16:45:22 +0200 From: Patrick Mevzek To: eppext@ietf.org Message-ID: <20150525144522.GB12639@home.patoche.org> References: <20150306154709.17870.88958.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7BE158D8-BB7B-4B66-8176-34805213A971@viagenie.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <7BE158D8-BB7B-4B66-8176-34805213A971@viagenie.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Scanned-By: shaktot_dot_patoche_dot_org on 212.85.152.86 Archived-At: Cc: stuart.olmstead-wilcox@cira.ca, jean-francois.tremblay@viagenie.ca, jacques.latour@cira.ca Subject: Re: [eppext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-wilcox-cira-idn-eppext-00.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 14:47:48 -0000 Hello Jean-François, Jacques and Stuart, JF Tremblay 2015-03-06 17:16 > As discussed in Honolulu, a draft has now been published describing the EPP extension(s) used at CIRA to support French IDN in the .ca domain. > > Of course, a number of the objects described in the draft overlap with other drafts, for example draft-kong and idnmap. Comments are welcome. I'm implementing your draft in my Net::DRI EPP client. Here is my feedback: - you use the term 'repertoire' where most other documents speak about 'IDN table'. I understand there are multiple extensions dealing with IDNs right now. It seems to me however that 'IDN table' is the dominant term, so maybe you should try to switch over it too? - "The CIRA IDN EPP extension defines three objects named createType, infDataType and checkType, respectively used in , and EPP commands." These are not EPP objects, so I think you should rephrase that sentence. The same problem appears later on with titles of sections 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3 - "The string used to identify a repertoire may be similar in content to a language tag, but shouldn't be confused with a language, as the character set approved by policy by a registry may represent a subset of an official language's character set. " I disagree with this for at least 2 reason 1) a language as defined by BCP47 can specify a country to say "this language as spoken in this country", hence fr-CA would be a valid language tag 2) the own reference you cite (section 1.3 of RFC4290) says "In this context, a "language" is defined by the combination of a code (see Section 1.4.1) and an authority that has chosen to use that code and establish a character-listing for it." Hence a registry can completely choose to use a subset of an official language's character set notwithstanding however, like explained in the above RFC, that it may create confusion for the whole ecosystem when there is no consensus/common view among all actors using the same languages. So maybe the repertoire type should be changed to allow such values, and not be restricted to 2 characters long strings. - as a general comment I feel the draft difficult to read because it mixes up operation in the cira-idn namespace and in the cira-idn-bundle namespace. I believe they should be better separated, even if not in two separate drafts. - §5.1.2.1 "If the queried domain is an IDN domain in A-label format," Why restrict the response only when queried with an IDN? (also by the way note that IDN domain is redundant, so maybe rephrase it?) Even if you have only the pure ascii domain name it could be interesting to have the bundle info, so we should get the reply in all cases, no? Also in your example you have: S: C: C: xn--valuation-93a.ca C: C: fr C: So you defined the cira-idnbundle namespace but then use the cira-idn-bundle namespace, with an extra hyphen. Also, why have the names of domains in the cira-idn namespace where everything else is in the cira-idn-bundle namespace? - §5.2.1 "The server answer is not modified by this extension except for return codes." The core EPP RFCs however do not allow to extend the list of return codes. Same problem at the end of §5.1.1 - as you stated yourself in the specification, domainVariants and bundleDomains are very close, and in fact synonyms. Why not just one name for elements, even in distinct namespaces, instead of two? - §5.2.4 The whole block is strange: The EPP command is not modified by this extension. The domain:name element may contain an IDN domain in A-label format. New new error codes and error values may be returned based on IDN processing. Maybe you should keep only the first sentence? Same problem for §5.2.5 and same problem for result codes as explained above. - specifically for the cira-idn-bundle:infData there is no explanation of each node value, even if they are straightforward. For example is upDate the date of last modification for any domain name in the bundle? Something else? Wouldn't be useful to have an exDate too for the bundle, being the max of all exDate of domain name variants in the bundle? - in reply of the domain:create, wouldn't be useful to add also the same content as in cira-idn:ciraIdnInfo or even the full bundle data? So that the registrar knows right at that time the list of domain names in the bundle, with all the other data. HTH, -- Patrick Mevzek From nobody Tue May 26 13:00:02 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A98D1A1A8D for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 13:00:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.788 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.788 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id prBXIVDv4IaM for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 12:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaktot.patoche.org (shaktot.patoche.org [212.85.152.86]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67C571A1A30 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 12:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaktot.patoche.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by shaktot.patoche.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id t4QJxlPw014799 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 26 May 2015 21:59:47 +0200 Received: (from patrick@localhost) by shaktot.patoche.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id t4QJxl7j014798; Tue, 26 May 2015 21:59:47 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 21:59:46 +0200 From: Patrick Mevzek To: eppext@ietf.org Message-ID: <20150526195946.GA7264@home.patoche.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Scanned-By: shaktot_dot_patoche_dot_org on 212.85.152.86 Archived-At: Subject: [eppext] Net::DRI EPP client version 0.96_07 has been released with 8 new/updated EPP extensions X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 20:00:01 -0000 The Perl open source domain name toolkit Net::DRI which includes an EPP client has been released as version 0.96_07 on CPAN (direct link: https://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/P/PM/PMEVZEK/Net-DRI-0.96_07.tar.gz ) and it includes support for the following drafts, among other bugfixes and enhancements: * draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd-01 (with full local XML security signatures validation) * draft-ietf-eppext-idnmap-02 * draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-02 * draft-gould-allocation-token-01 * draft-wilcox-cira-idn-eppext-00 * draft-mayrhofer-eppext-servicemessage-00 * draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping-00 * draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-00 Further work is already ongoing to implement various other EPP extensions that have been discussed here lately. By the way, this is also the 10th anniversary of this software, developed without any sponsorship nor funding. Also, as it may be of interest to this mailing-list, I'm including below all the ordered XML namespaces for EPP extensions that my toolkit knows about, meaning that it implements the corresponding extension. Of course it is not an exhaustive list, but it aims to be in the future, so if you know about obscure EPP extensions and you can send specifications in private, that would be most welcome. I will be in Stockholm on June 4th for the workshop, and happy to discuss with any interested party. http://co.za/epp/extensions/cozacontact-1-0 http://co.za/epp/extensions/cozadomain-1-0 http://registrypro.pro/2003/epp/1/av-2.0 http://registrypro.pro/2003/epp/1/rpro-epp-2.0 http://rxsd.domain-registry.nl/sidn-ext-epp-1.0 http://schema.ispapi.net/epp/xml/keyvalue-1.0 http://tld-box.at/xmlns/resdata-1.1 http://www.afnic.fr/xml/epp/frnic-1.2 http://www.arnes.si/xml/epp/dnssi-1.1 http://www.cloudregistry.net/ns/launchphase-1.0 http://www.dns.be/xml/epp/dnsbe-1.0 http://www.dns.be/xml/epp/keygroup-1.0 http://www.dns.be/xml/epp/nsgroup-1.0 http://www.dns.lu/xml/epp/dnslu-1.0 http://www.dns.pl/NASK-EPP/extdom-1.0 http://www.dns.pl/NASK-EPP/extcon-1.0 http://www.dns.pt/xml/epp/ptcontact-1.0 http://www.dns.pt/xml/epp/ptdomain-1.0 http://www.enum.at/rxsd/ienum43-options-1.0 http://www.enum.at/rxsd/ienum43-result-1.0 http://www.eurid.eu/xml/epp/authInfo-1.0 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urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:mark-1.0 urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:neulevel-1.0 urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:poll-1.0 urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:reseller-1.0 urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:resellerext-1.0 urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:rgp-1.0 urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:secDNS-1.0 urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:secDNS-1.1 urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:signedMark-1.0 urn:se:iis:xml:epp:iis-1.2 -- Patrick Mevzek From nobody Tue May 26 15:04:52 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510031B3227 for ; Tue, 26 May 2015 15:04:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Scanned-By: shaktot_dot_patoche_dot_org on 212.85.152.86 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [eppext] keyrelay draft X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 22:04:50 -0000 Rik Ribbers 2015-05-01 17:31 > As you might have noticed we've published a new version of the keyrelay draft. Major change is the new XML structure as suggested by the WG. Hopefully this will help the document move forward. > > As always any feedback is appreciated. Here are my comments on draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-02 that I've just implemented: I really prefer the previous version of your draft, not only because of the more generic 'relay' framework (more on that below) but also because of the following points: - you describe the notification message under the "info response" section; I believe this is wrong, since you never got this reply by doing a command info, only by a result of a poll. Hence, like previously you should leave the info section empty and describe the notification message in a section clearly labeled "poll" And for this same reason, I prefered the previous paData node name, instead of the new infData, but this is almost cosmetic. - I really prefer the previous relay verb/extension instead of piggy backing the create one, since keyrelay are not really registry objects, only EPP messages. And EPP is a provisioning protocol, a keyrelay:create command seem to imply that you are provisioning some kind of new objects inside the registry system, where you are in fact only queueing a message into another registry polling queue - various nitpicks: * "A REQUIRED elements" (should be element), this happens twice in the document. * for your create example, the clTRID in the response does not match the one in the command * in XSDs, I believe you have by default minOccurs="1" and maxOccurs="1" on all elements, so it should not be needed to have minOccurs="1". In fact I think your mistake is that you really wanted maxOccurs="1" (for example for the name) and not minOccurs="1" Also, taking a step back, I do not fully agree with "There is no clear distinction in the EPP protocol between Registrars and DNS-operators." The EPP protocol is clearly between a registry and a registrar. A registrar can also be a DNS-operator but this has no relationship to its role as a sponsor of a domain name. As for the keyData elements, even if it is straightforward you may specify more in detail that it is up to registry policy to define the maximum number of elements that can be provided, and if the threshold is crossed what error code the registrar will have "the EPP element MUST contain a child element that identifies the keyrelay namespace." I do not understand the "that identified the keyrelay namespace": this namespace can be defined anywhere from this node up the root node, this is depending on server policy and has no consequences on the XML parsing. In fact in your own example after that, the keyrelay:infData has no namespace declaration since it is already done previously. Same remark later on for keyrelay:create As discussed in private, I would really favor the idea of the generic relay framework…, as it has a lot of technical merits and even if it would be difficult to make it a standard used by many registries. I believe it may have some overlapping parts with draft-gould-change-poll and/or draft-mayrhofer-eppext-servicemessage. -- Patrick Mevzek From nobody Wed May 27 03:46:56 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93161ACD23 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 03:46:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DZkrMKwKerGO for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 03:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-f100.google.com (mail-oi0-f100.google.com [209.85.218.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D5381ACD21 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 03:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by oiav63 with SMTP id v63so196240oia.0 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 03:46:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:thread-topic:thread-index:date :message-id:accept-language:content-language:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=TfAwkX+42VM/vO4lrwpIanFqoJ+BL64TQHjRJHPhgAg=; b=BsFsEhzO5aNuC9pM1eZPEAcBB4lpnsfG8NKcf6u3fC0Tmge6f6ZaL674ODgUCKlJKf D6Tu1K34Hm9tdUhzirkqkI+Id8SdgAa3JsRHJ1f5CJiJjVKGlrNdvsZb73T5dWAgpCX3 6krL5qDzH7NkHpFX+Mb7q6K3utVGNjXvgR9Oy25CznqHZ3kdBqPxiVxYwmmSDC8PgNJD sf+Vy9ccSfk06C27zVmZpTVUHOsPX+pKY9RXa+voDPcsmu/Qhy73YUaYcRVw50AvBsL5 rxEoGqx+MzeHEtkCwiAEGWqKaY/UESi0TmcS3C66ohZFkbDyCzWjSBLRRVVsFQaS9MXQ GBIQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnrJxnfqhVxy11OxD2sWsG7b0ehWjwsFeuBnzOMC1jtEYkue5v75R1VBcI5BaWlFDSixEquCgdzeJhDli8f3yQvUK7/wg== X-Received: by 10.140.82.180 with SMTP id h49mr4226518qgd.29.1432723613083; Wed, 27 May 2015 03:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brn1lxmailout02.verisign.com (brn1lxmailout02.verisign.com. 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=0A ------=_001_NextPart468426262520_=------ From nobody Thu May 28 03:56:49 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810551A890C for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 03:56:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5-_86aG4DJZY for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 03:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-f98.google.com (mail-oi0-f98.google.com [209.85.218.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AD3B1A88D2 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 03:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by oiav63 with SMTP id v63so1616128oia.0 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 03:56:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:thread-topic:thread-index:date :message-id:references:in-reply-to:accept-language:content-language :content-type:mime-version; bh=CI+Ljza0+DuH3e9ZrGxYwV/Gz6rx9/OMaRaGb2feYKo=; b=Fq5u6Ro9Td3kP1yGUdNJAKhbpjGVc6Vu49d9Uefz9wt+OGjtLGrwSw2AVlLvpP5SjT eIRhI0YifEPTzyBGjM5PQ3dXM2fnz60VBy3UjneyQqqA6mAh/Qsm8mUrUfpvVLQsmGeI CSIJg5CkAg5j8W599e/eCJLCR6H+6oGEhiN5LtRwZ12cdpFlrzfBOCiMngRL545LgNBu xFdm86lg2zMjTd20/OmZ7BCL6ANqvAtZYBJ2RigW//xBoFujtWV3rDox3VflFvnq232w meSDoV2rFDfvXB/qOxJwtVXjyxS9PIeEyQMriZxWE/YAT6xOOM2REF/Qui7LS6s7769v k6Bw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmYLxwOurxwnv6CmL9FngzRpV510c+ye0K8l2NrCBlTFMPtqfp9OuVRrBhmnfjKya3AvzlRZTxsORPCkYBGZd3paQ3xMg== X-Received: by 10.141.18.202 with SMTP id u193mr2390753qhd.16.1432810575246; Thu, 28 May 2015 03:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brn1lxmailout01.verisign.com (brn1lxmailout01.verisign.com. [72.13.63.41]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e4sm481056qcm.3.2015.05.28.03.56.14 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 28 May 2015 03:56:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Relaying-Domain: verisign.com Received: from brn1wnexcas01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (brn1wnexcas01 [10.173.152.205]) by brn1lxmailout01.verisign.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t4SAuDEX009214 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Thu, 28 May 2015 06:56:14 -0400 Received: from BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) by brn1wnexcas01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Thu, 28 May 2015 06:56:13 -0400 From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: Linlin Zhou , "eppext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [eppext] EPP workshop in Stockholm on 4 June 2015 Thread-Index: AQHQmRFoVALRlptc+kaJ2MLOPsQQu52RNrCQ Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 10:56:12 +0000 Message-ID: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49FE67AE@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49FE53B4@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <2015052814440425768510@cnnic.cn> In-Reply-To: <2015052814440425768510@cnnic.cn> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49FE67AEBRN1WNEXMBX01vc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [eppext] EPP workshop in Stockholm on 4 June 2015 X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 10:56:48 -0000 --_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49FE67AEBRN1WNEXMBX01vc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, the topics are very similar to the things we covered at ROW 2015-1, bu= t most of the folks at CENTR weren't in Dallas so I'm very happy to do it a= gain with a different audience. The CENTR meetings are held regularly, but = this workshop isn't. As far as I know .SE won't have any remote participati= on options available. Scott From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linlin Zhou Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:44 AM To: Hollenbeck, Scott; eppext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [eppext] EPP workshop in Stockholm on 4 June 2015 Thanks for the information. I feel that this workshop is very similar to the ROW. Is it a meeting held = regularly? Is it possible to provide remote participation for people who co= uld no be there? Regards, ________________________________ Linlin Zhou From: Hollenbeck, Scott Date: 2015-05-27 18:46 To: eppext@ietf.org Subject: [eppext] EPP workshop in Stockholm on 4 June 2015 The folks of .SE are hosting an EPP workshop in Stockholm on Thursday 4 Jun= e. Details and the agenda can be found here: https://www.iis.se/evenemang/epp-workshop-managing-the-proliferation-of-epp= -extensions/ Scott _______________________________________________ EppExt mailing list EppExt@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eppext --_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49FE67AEBRN1WNEXMBX01vc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, the topics are very similar to the th= ings we covered at ROW 2015-1, but most of the folks at CENTR weren’t= in Dallas so I’m very happy to do it again with a different audience= . The CENTR meetings are held regularly, but this workshop isn’t. As f= ar as I know .SE won’t have any remote participation options availabl= e.

 

Scott<= o:p>

 

From: EppExt [= mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linlin Zhou
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:44 AM
To: Hollenbeck, Scott; eppext@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [eppext] EPP workshop in Stockholm on 4 June 2015<= /o:p>

 

Thanks for the information.

I feel that this workshop is very s= imilar to the ROW. Is it a meeting held regularly? Is it possible to provid= e remote participation for people who could no be there?<= /p>

 

Regards,

Linlin Zhou

 

Date: 2015-05-27 18:46<= /o:p>

Subject: [eppext] EPP workshop in= Stockholm on 4 June 2015

The folks of .SE are hosting an EPP= workshop in Stockholm on Thursday 4 June. Details and the agenda can be fo= und here:

 

 

Scott

 

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--_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49FE67AEBRN1WNEXMBX01vc_-- From nobody Thu May 28 06:37:17 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90D91AC428 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 06:37:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7HBjgqedBqm8 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 06:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4670B1AC41C for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 06:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [206.123.31.124] (h124.viagenie.ca [206.123.31.124]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2791845BAF; Thu, 28 May 2015 09:37:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc Blanchet" To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 09:37:01 -0400 Message-ID: <4D3BCD2F-A0C0-4835-AB64-726A6631F1C9@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49FE67AE@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49FE53B4@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <2015052814440425768510@cnnic.cn> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49FE67AE@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: MailMate Trial (1.9.1r5084) Archived-At: Cc: Linlin Zhou , "eppext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [eppext] EPP workshop in Stockholm on 4 June 2015 X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 13:37:17 -0000 On 28 May 2015, at 6:56, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > Yes, the topics are very similar to the things we covered at ROW = > 2015-1, but most of the folks at CENTR weren't in Dallas so I'm very = > happy to do it again with a different audience. The CENTR meetings are = > held regularly, but this workshop isn't. As far as I know .SE won't = > have any remote participation options available. and the next ROW in Prague is focused on another subject: RDAP. Marc. > > Scott > > From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linlin Zhou > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:44 AM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott; eppext@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [eppext] EPP workshop in Stockholm on 4 June 2015 > > Thanks for the information. > I feel that this workshop is very similar to the ROW. Is it a meeting = > held regularly? Is it possible to provide remote participation for = > people who could no be there? > > Regards, > ________________________________ > Linlin Zhou > > From: Hollenbeck, Scott > Date: 2015-05-27 18:46 > To: eppext@ietf.org > Subject: [eppext] EPP workshop in Stockholm on 4 June 2015 > The folks of .SE are hosting an EPP workshop in Stockholm on Thursday = > 4 June. Details and the agenda can be found here: > > https://www.iis.se/evenemang/epp-workshop-managing-the-proliferation-of= -epp-extensions/ > > Scott > > _______________________________________________ > EppExt mailing list > EppExt@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eppext > _______________________________________________ > EppExt mailing list > EppExt@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eppext From nobody Thu May 28 11:59:25 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46A71A1B2E for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 11:59:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.311 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.311 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, GB_I_LETTER=-2, J_CHICKENPOX_66=0.6, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wIsLwaBhoqmL for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 11:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139D81A1B47 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 11:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h200.viagenie.ca (h200.viagenie.ca [206.123.31.200]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B1B5646902; Thu, 28 May 2015 14:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) From: JF Tremblay In-Reply-To: <20150525144522.GB12639@home.patoche.org> Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 14:55:43 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <14D39881-EF72-4619-A942-5ACDE538613F@viagenie.ca> References: <20150306154709.17870.88958.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7BE158D8-BB7B-4B66-8176-34805213A971@viagenie.ca> <20150525144522.GB12639@home.patoche.org> To: Patrick Mevzek X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) Archived-At: Cc: Stuart Olmstead-Wilcox , "Jacques Latour \(CIRA\)" , eppext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [eppext] New Version Notification for draft-wilcox-cira-idn-eppext-00.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 18:59:22 -0000 Thanks for the feedback, Patrick.=20 Comments inline.=20 > On May 25, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Patrick Mevzek wrote: >=20 > - you use the term 'repertoire' where most other documents speak about > 'IDN table'. > I understand there are multiple extensions dealing with IDNs right > now. > It seems to me however that 'IDN table' is the dominant term, so maybe > you should try to switch over it too? Remember this first version of the draft is meant to document the = current implementation at CIRA, and therefore uses their vocabulary. = This implementation was done a few years back, before most eppext = drafts.=20 > - "The CIRA IDN EPP extension defines three objects named createType, > infDataType and checkType, respectively used in , > and > EPP commands." >=20 > These are not EPP objects, so I think you should rephrase that > sentence. The same problem appears later on with titles of sections > 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3 Agreed, naming them XML elements would probably be better.=20 > [...] a registry can completely choose to use a subset of an official > language's character set notwithstanding however, like explained in > the above RFC, that it may create confusion for the whole ecosystem > when there is no consensus/common view among all actors using the same > languages. This is a very complex topic. While I agree with your statements, a = registry might very well decide not to accept all character variants in = a language for policy reasons. Therefore it remains =E2=80=9Cdangerous=E2=80= =9D to strictly link an IDN-table to a two-letter language code.=20 As an example, CIRA accepts all =E2=80=9Cfr=E2=80=9D characters, = including U+00FF (y trema). As a French speaker, I=E2=80=99ve never, = ever, seen that character used. Another registry allowing French = characters might decide that allowing this specific character variant = would cause confusion for their user base.=20 It=E2=80=99s a balance between possible confusion for users or possible = confusion/complexity for registrars implementing the character variant = set. Bottom line: the IETF doesn=E2=80=99t have any control on this, it = remains a registry policy decision, so I suggest we keep it open for = idn-tables that wouldn=E2=80=99t exactly match languages charsets.=20 > So maybe the repertoire type should be changed to allow such values, > and not be restricted to 2 characters long strings. My point exactly. Let=E2=80=99s not restrict it to 2 characters only.=20 > - as a general comment I feel the draft difficult to read because it > mixes up operation in the cira-idn namespace and in the > cira-idn-bundle namespace. I believe they should be better separated, > even if not in two separate drafts. Agreed. These are two different schemas and might be separated. But, = again, this was the target for a first -00 draft.=20 The larger question here is: are there elements in this draft that are = interesting for standardisation as separated extensions and not covered = by other drafts?=20 > - =C2=A75.1.2.1 >=20 > "If the queried domain is an IDN domain in A-label format," >=20 > Why restrict the response only when queried with an IDN? > (also by the way note that IDN domain is redundant, so maybe rephrase > it?) > Even if you have only the pure ascii domain name it could be > interesting to have the bundle info, so we should get the reply in all > cases, no? Interesting point. But wouldn=E2=80=99t that cause confusion or errors = for registrars not supporting IDN? At CIRA, only a small subset of = registrars implement IDN (did Jacques mention 15 out or 150 at the last = ROW?).=20 > Also in your example you have: > S: xmlns:cira-idn=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:cira-idn- > S: >=20 > So there seems to be things missing in the cira-idn namespace > declaration=E2=80=A6 Thanks, probably a copy-paste error. It=E2=80=99s missing the 1.0. and = the closing.=20 > - in =C2=A75.1.2.2 I believe you should remove the > S: > S: >=20 > No need to have an empty resData node for a purely extended reply. Noted.=20 > Also you have: > C: C: xmlns:cira-idnbundle=3D > "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:cira-idn-bundle-1.0"> > C: > C: xn--valuation-93a.ca > C: > C: > fr > C: >=20 > So you defined the cira-idnbundle namespace but then use the > cira-idn-bundle namespace, with an extra hyphen. Typo. They all have the hyphen except one on page 13. Noted.=20 > Also, why have the names of domains in the cira-idn namespace where > everything else is in the cira-idn-bundle namespace? That=E2=80=99s legacy, as I understand it. Maybe Stuart could answer on = that one.=20 > - =C2=A75.2.1 > "The server answer is not > modified by this extension except for return codes." > The core EPP RFCs however do not allow to extend the list of return > codes. > Same problem at the end of =C2=A75.1.1 Must have missed that. Is that explicitly stated somewhere (that the = return codes can=E2=80=99t be modified)?=20 How could an extension manage to return meaningful errors when it = introduces new behaviors, then? A generic error might be returned, but = it=E2=80=99s not really helpful.=20 For example, in this case, some errors codes were introduced to cover an = invalid IDN-table, mismatching domain registrant an bundle registrant, = etc.=20 It=E2=80=99s true though, that if extension introduce new return codes, = they would have to be registered somewhere to avoid collisions, maybe as = a new field in the IANA registry.=20 > - as you stated yourself in the specification, domainVariants and > bundleDomains are very close, and in fact synonyms. Why not just one > name for elements, even in distinct namespaces, instead of two? Again, legacy. I asked the same question to CIRA people. I=E2=80=99ll = let them explain further, if needed.=20 > - specifically for the cira-idn-bundle:infData there is no explanation > of each node value, even if they are straightforward. > For example is upDate the date of last modification for any domain > name in the bundle? Something else? Agree, a better description would help.=20 > Wouldn't be useful to have an exDate too for the bundle, being the max > of all exDate of domain name variants in the bundle? I suggested this one and I believe CIRA had a reason not put it in. = I=E2=80=99ll let Stuart answer on this.=20 > - in reply of the domain:create, wouldn't be useful to add also the > same content as in cira-idn:ciraIdnInfo or even the full bundle > data? > So that the registrar knows right at that time the list of domain > names in the bundle, with all the other data. Might be a good idea if the data set isn=E2=80=99t too large.=20 Thanks again for the thorough review Patrick, we really appreciate! JF From nobody Sun May 31 12:38:08 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59CB1A89F5 for ; Sun, 31 May 2015 12:38:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.75 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.75 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, J_CHICKENPOX_66=0.6] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z27hO-Llq7R5 for ; Sun, 31 May 2015 12:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx4.nic.fr (mx4.nic.fr [IPv6:2001:67c:2218:2::4:12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D95741A8A0B for ; Sun, 31 May 2015 12:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx4.nic.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx4.nic.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id DFA9B2801BE; Sun, 31 May 2015 21:38:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay1.nic.fr (relay1.nic.fr [192.134.4.162]) by mx4.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D2A2802B1; Sun, 31 May 2015 21:38:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (citrine.tech.ipv6.nic.fr [IPv6:2001:67c:1348:7::86:96]) by relay1.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422414C0053; Sun, 31 May 2015 21:37:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1433101049.5289.13.camel@citrine-mobile> From: Patrick Mevzek To: "Gould, James" Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 21:37:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <34236AD6-86DD-4B52-AE9C-1AA3AB9C6C32@verisign.com> References: <211D0420-18A3-43D7-9A3D-553B34C6DF43@verisign.com> <77F1013C-BF41-4982-9845-C1F87F69B5F5@verisign.com> <4D5E61F9-D8ED-48A1-BF40-6CE42B09601B@nic.br> <1429972004.16625.6.camel@citrine-mobile> <34236AD6-86DD-4B52-AE9C-1AA3AB9C6C32@verisign.com> Organization: AFNIC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.5-2+b1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: "gtld-tech@icann.org" , "eppext@ietf.org" , Rubens Kuhl Subject: Re: [eppext] [provreg] Publishing of the Change Poll EPP Extension IETF Draft X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 19:38:07 -0000 Hello James, Le lundi 27 avril 2015 à 13:04 +0000, Gould, James a écrit : > We discussed the Change Poll Extension and the use case of DNS > deferred publication at the Registration Operations Workshop (ROW) > prior to IETF-92. The question was whether the deferred publication > was part of pending operations (e.g. pendingCreate, pendingUpdate). > No one could speak to the use case. Can you describe the domain > operation flow of a registry that supports deferred publication? Sorry for my delay. I can give you some details on how it was done at the .FR registry in the past (we are not doing it anymore). Basically any DNS change had to be checked against some rules, using the then active tool zonecheck (which also meant that you could only change nameservers in one operation, you could not mix it with other updates at the same time). In our case, at that time, creation was not possible with nameservers. You had to first register the domain, then modify it if you want to add nameservers. > I see two different flows: > > > 1. Pending Action > 1. Client sends domain create with NS (domain update > would work in a similar fashion) > 2. Server puts the domain on pendingCreate status and > returns the 1001 “Command completed successfully; > action pending” response > 3. Server validates the NS (DNS servers respond correctly > ) > 4. If NS validate > 1. Remove the pendingCreate status > 2. Insert pending action ( ) poll > message with a positive result ( “paResult=1” > ) > 5. else if within validation period > 1. Validate again at the next interval > 6. else > 1. Remove domain ( or reject update ) > 2. Insert pending action ( ) poll > message with negative result ( “paResult=0” ). > An extension could be added to provide more > error detail. We were basically doing that except for the following points : - no creation with nameservers, hence the above workflow was for updates only - either it valides or not, but in all cases the operation was done at that time, either successfully or not. the registry did not try to validate again, the onus would be on the registrar to send again a domain:update command to trigger a recheck. - for the more details part (basically the validation result), we did not design an extension but just put the error message as a text in the notification. Clearly not as good as the new drafts to convey such kind of information, but at that time, it was good enough. > 1. Registration Deferred Publication ( My thoughts without any > detail previously provided ) > 1. Client sends domain create with NS ( domain update may > work in a similar fashion, but I see some added > complexity) > 2. Server accepts the domain create for deferred > publication and sets the “serverHold” and > “ serverUpdateProhibited” statuses pending the > validation. > 1. A domain update would be more complex, since I > imagine that the update would not add any > server statuses to support the deferred > validation. I also imagine that the domain > would not be removed from the zone based on > the update deferred validation by putting the > “serverHold” on it. Is update of NS validated > via a deferred validation model? > 3. Server validates the NS (DNS servers respond correctly > ) > 4. If NS validate > 1. Remove the “serverHold” and “serverUpdate” > statuses > 2. Poll message here is in question. Should this > be a Change Poll message reflecting the update > made by the server to remove the and > “ serverUpdateProhibited” statuses based on > the successful deferred publication > validation? > 1. If so, I see the server operation as > “update” and the reason as something > like “Deferred publication validation > success”. The reason is free-form > text. The change poll message (domain > info response) should reflect the > removal of the “serverHold” and > “serverUpdateProhibited” statuses. > 5. else if within validation period > 1. Validate again at the next interval. No poll > message required, since the state of the > domain has not changed. > 6. else > 1. Remove the “serverUpdateProhibited” status to > enable the client to modify the NS > 2. Poll message here is in question. Should this > be a Change Poll message reflecting the update > made by the server to remove the > “serverUpdateProhibited” status based on the > failed deferred publication validation? > 1. If so, I see the server operation as > “update” and the reason as something > like “Deferred publication validation > failed”. The reason is free-form > text. The change poll message (domain > info response) should reflect the > removal of the > “serverUpdateProhibited” status, and > not the “serverHold” status still > set. > 1. If additional information is > required for this failure, I > recommend creating a separate > deferred publication failure > extension or a generic > validation failure extension > that is attached to the change > poll message. The info > response would provide the > state of the object (domain in > this case), the change poll > extension would provide the > what, when, why for the > server-side change, and the > validation failure extension > would provide the failure > detail. This is more complex, and like I said I have past experience only for updates. Using statuses in that way seems to me a problem since they do not "stack". A domain can have a serverHold for various reasons: if it has serverHold before the domain:update for example because of a dispute or something out of band, at the end of the procedure it may have been removed, but wrongly. Also, it breaks the domain: if you put serverHold right at the beginning of the domain:update and if the zonefile data is published in real time or near real time, and if the validation itself takes more time than the average publication delay, then you create a window were the current domain can be published without its (past) nameservers at all, which is for me a no-go. So I would think the first case is simpler for anyone. Also, we may have the same problem for secDNS changes (if the registry wants to validate them before applying them) > I don’t see the operations done by the server above as being anything > other than an “update” with the reason communicating the deferred > publication validation result. There are two forms of extensibility > of operations defined in the draft that is supported by the > “op” attribute, which can be used to define a > sub-operation (e.g. op=“deferredPublication”>update) or a custom > operation (e.g. op=“deferredPublication”>custom ), which > handles extensibility without the need for a new XML schema and > requiring an extension to an extension. Is there any other form of > extensibility that you are looking for? No, my fault sorry, I overlooked this possible extension, which indeed solves my question. -- Patrick Mevzek