From nobody Mon Aug 3 05:40:26 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364121A0035; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 05:40:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K4mUyfUsWjqn; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 05:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E051A001C; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 05:40:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.2.0.p3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150803124020.10608.93628.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 05:40:20 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: eppext@ietf.org Subject: [eppext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eppext-launchphase-06.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 12:40:22 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Extensible Provisioning Protocol Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : Launch Phase Mapping for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) Authors : James Gould Wil Tan Gavin Brown Filename : draft-ietf-eppext-launchphase-06.txt Pages : 61 Date : 2015-08-03 Abstract: This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) extension mapping for the provisioning and management of domain name registrations and applications during the launch of a domain name registry. 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[127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7441A899E for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 07:39:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ALpbFd9eW5iD for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 07:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlin.blacknight.ie (merlin.blacknight.ie [81.17.240.211]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3733F1A87A8 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 07:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [81.17.243.239] (hegemon.blacknight.ie [81.17.243.239]) by merlin.blacknight.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E74333C412 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2015 15:38:57 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <55C37181.4040409@blacknight.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:38:57 +0100 From: Keith Gaughan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eppext@ietf.org References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49F3C5DD@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <54DDF867.1070705@centralnic.com> In-Reply-To: <54DDF867.1070705@centralnic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [eppext] Extension Registration Request: Registry Fee Extension for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 14:39:06 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 A bit late to the party on this one, but I feel some registrar input is needed. On 13/02/15 13:13, Gavin Brown wrote: > On 11/02/2015 02:19, Ning Kong wrote: > >> #2 IMO, the extension of is not necessary. It seems that >> the extended is a little overused. I think the extension >> of is enough. That's akin to suggesting that should be dropped from EPP itself, given its work could technically be performed with a bunch of requests. is essentially a quick path for registrars to get basic metadata about a given set names in a single transaction. That's all the Fee extension is allowing, and that's why it's valuable. > There has been some discussion of this point on this list; there > seemed to be no consensus for using only or only. > In the interests of pleasing the most number of people, I chose to > support both. > > I would be happy to revisit this question again as my personal > preference would be to only support one query command. I *strongly* recommend keeping the extension. For our purposes, it's actually more useful on than on as we often have to check for whether a domain is registered or not, and also its price category to decided whether we can sell it or not. Having to rely on to get that information would mean the number of requests we would have to make would balloon quite quickly, which would negatively affect our ability to deal with registries using the Fee extension, and sell such domains. If the registry supports pipelining, this is slightly less of an issue, but pipelining support can be hit-and-miss, and the additional overhead of using multiple requests, even with pipelining is still far from insignificant. The overhead to the registry to support the extension isn't terribly great, and the benefits to registrars are huge. We already have this issue with Rightside/Donuts, who require that we do individual requests to figure out if a domain is subject to premium pricing. This impacts how quickly we can get results back to a customer as the results are rarely worth caching, and even under the best of conditions, the customer gets their results back more that two or three times slower for those domains than their otherwise would if the information was returned in . K. - -- Keith Gaughan, Development Lead; PGP/GPG key ID: D5FC9D23 Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd. 12A Barrowside Business Park, Carlow, R93 X265, Ireland Registered in Ireland, Company No.: 370845 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVw3GBAAoJEMrbaevV/J0jTUoQAJcqwiJ6dCYJWGHC2RDrt9TS xCU88t9ikNtX6Zx9JrkxB1xy1UFTvPhxYrrPS4nh1vw6cL+4vO40hOqPwXGrbOF2 oClxA8K7tflTMNvzspC0MpiS6YVEzrgmkMQcMfhFL41gKExsgTXmdWXw9Fz6AQbm P+sbiF75IcSAicXVH4DSqYkk4eftKjtl0woH/GGjFce5lDf4EeDh7xC3XTLrWr5p a5/9kmgSDs4a23V4GoX18s3BAIzAYpqckjTfeORegdRoTc1TuzQ4OL2mkZZoVxNQ xHP0y6jDMWehUA7IfraxX/C6fgYSqK9HbbEyzEdi2T9TJLApsEQL3MSKeMWZW69l T8qSlBFko1qox3PgrFOLdrpZph2a+nm8qKILZPEU6vMi15veiBZtJaj9vWdAxQQj aBkL5bbna2kuRuxd51IAUY55rdLOLZ2ay2aKU6EcgiYlt7/PLZgLim8mzd0lVKuW lyMo+9xIlQqEmk+DmHs+betSp71nfS9JAXM+/CZAnd1K8veDin/Bj4b/z99dSNoz 28j7XsxqT3sjLLeNVd1xWYxvpxdkPh6Ue+C1fe1h7MmyY8ERNhXm2nENQEk83cEs 5XmY7C+L6Y8WWXgsj9GX0bT05YpYwXGoA+HNsyStsE1x0ah6GrGaVqT+5btwzijm mmYXWXurAbE3sUyIV1HW =0Zpr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody Wed Aug 12 02:59:50 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518251A00B2 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 02:59:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.737 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.737 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3Kqnu_42JT8x for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 02:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.centralnic.com (mail-7.fnb.uk.centralnic.net [5.44.25.120]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A01F51A00AE for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 02:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Gavins-MacBook-Pro.local (unknown [2.222.36.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.centralnic.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6C8169D5A for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:59:43 +0000 (UTC) References: <20150812094414.13185.54918.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: eppext@ietf.org From: Gavin Brown X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Organization: CentralNic X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20150812094414.13185.54918.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: <55CB190E.7070109@centralnic.com> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:59:42 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20150812094414.13185.54918.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kkgdx8oBj2rOfnRbCHicwI6AO39CWCeA8" Archived-At: Subject: [eppext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-brown-epp-fees-05.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:59:48 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --kkgdx8oBj2rOfnRbCHicwI6AO39CWCeA8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Colleagues, I appreciate that I've been rather quiet on the fee extension front recently, but since the old draft was about to expire, I've pulled my finger out and updated it based on feedback and discussions on this list. Thanks to all who gave feedback. Notable changes in this version: 1. Removed the extended command. The command is the only command that can be used now. 2. Introduced a mandatory-to-implement "standard" class for non- premium domains. 3. The decision was made to keep availability info in responses as registrars have indicated that it is very useful as it avoids unnecessary round trips to the server. 4. Allow elements to be present in responses. 5. Allow the number of which can appear in transform responses to be zero. 6. Removed the and elements from transfer query responses. The reason is that these elements are defined as containing the values after the transform command has taken place - which means that it is not appropriate to include them in a query response. 7. Added Implementation Status section. The only remaining item in the TODO list is to change the extension to be object-agnostic. I am working on that at the moment. If anyone out there has an implementation of this extension, I'd appreciate it if you could email me the details for inclusion in the draf= t. Thanks, -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-brown-epp-fees-05.txt Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 02:44:14 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Gavin Brown , Gavin Brown A new version of I-D, draft-brown-epp-fees-05.txt has been successfully submitted by Gavin Brown and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-brown-epp-fees Revision: 05 Title: Registry Fee Extension for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) Document date: 2015-08-12 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 35 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-brown-epp-fees-05.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brown-epp-fees/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-brown-epp-fees-05 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-brown-epp-fees-= 05 Abstract: This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) extension mapping for registry fees. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --=20 Gavin Brown Chief Technology Officer CentralNic Group plc (LSE:CNIC) Innovative, Reliable and Flexible Registry Services for ccTLD, gTLD and private domain name registries https://www.centralnic.com/ CentralNic Group plc is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 8576358. 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NS0zOSBNb29yZ2F0ZSwgTG9uZG9uLA0KPiBFQzJSIDZBUi4NCj4gDQo+IA0KDQo= From nobody Mon Aug 24 02:49:30 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D8B1ACD86; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 02:49:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sGUYFqSPXU_K; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 02:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861751ACC8B; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 02:48:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.4.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150824094838.20483.49860.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 02:48:38 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: eppext@ietf.org Subject: [eppext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-06.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 09:49:28 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Extensible Provisioning Protocol Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : Key Relay Mapping for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol Authors : Rik Ribbers Marc Groeneweg Miek Gieben Antoin Verschuren Filename : draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-06.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2015-08-24 Abstract: This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) mapping for a key relay object that relays DNSSEC key material between EPP clients using the poll queue defined in RFC5730. This key relay mapping will help facilitate changing the DNS operator of a domain while keeping the DNSSEC chain of trust intact. 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Anyway.... This version contains the review comments Ulrich Wisser made dur= ing the IESG writeup as part of the last call=20 - Add the removal of the command to the changelog (this is somehow = screwed up in the uploaded version) - Moving RFC7451 from normative to informative=20 - Fixing some document nits with respect to spacing. Kind regards, Rik Ribbers -----Original Message----- From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@= ietf.org Sent: maandag 24 augustus 2015 11:49 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: eppext@ietf.org Subject: [eppext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-06.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Extensible Provisioning Protocol Extensio= ns Working Group of the IETF. Title : Key Relay Mapping for the Extensible Provisioning= Protocol Authors : Rik Ribbers Marc Groeneweg Miek Gieben Antoin Verschuren Filename : draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-06.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2015-08-24 Abstract: This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) mapping for a key relay object that relays DNSSEC key material between EPP clients using the poll queue defined in RFC5730. This key relay mapping will help facilitate changing the DNS operator of a domain while keeping the DNSSEC chain of trust intact. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ EppExt mailing list EppExt@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eppext From nobody Mon Aug 24 03:58:44 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174161B31DC for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 03:58:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g3BzeyOMXTPv for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 03:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-f97.google.com (mail-oi0-f97.google.com [209.85.218.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 847021B31D7 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 03:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by oiev193 with SMTP id v193so6363461oie.0 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 03:58:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:thread-topic:thread-index:date :message-id:accept-language:content-language:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=AZOiT69gp15atf0Lp66oTtIceGlZvPTSiG9A0B+eiiM=; b=BtbqY4uyDdDiJDVafKpX9YSChDgUowUyBvNUWwRALUZ10DVCAsJg5TV5bYmZxTTGzD ILUbW4p3unD6KR3V4qixdXSsQa2a2H3WTw6oIjW0uCoDJrIjv+LLyq91hjGNh1zzDZzQ R5t4WAOUqY4geEu6xlKMb4LGPNX++sNQRtE+M+8VMYSbg2HaPOTwG/hxrc9KHjnoEhqh jDuQE5ZAXHD+nvh+MZL4TiZN2L3COUa6C3KVZpWxqGAXl+aO3S5Ys8NYU6dTXal/1Nta BFNDQyXfr5jeS6Wn0Zq3IB6YkChfZiDkLdLkIfdA0tC7jRv4HnN6zXbnxnDvGpFan+db UcpA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkTbwz4TpgwXz2TLyEpgLAEYsR0Ww1AmuJNTqucUAo85du1Ryu2g3t6xr9FF5VV5GxCs2Ed4aHv9ikX+T46Eqh4Eab89g== X-Received: by 10.55.24.199 with SMTP id 68mr51083476qky.50.1440413920888; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 03:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brn1lxmailout01.verisign.com (brn1lxmailout01.verisign.com. 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Thread-Index: AdDeW9T3U05bkXorTlO6xQDj08O7BA== Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:58:39 +0000 Message-ID: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A063306@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [eppext] Rechartering? X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:58:43 -0000 So where are we with respect to the rechartering discussion? Scott From nobody Mon Aug 24 04:14:46 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE701B32FE; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 04:14:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4J74C8wSgL8D; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 04:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265BE1B32F5; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 04:14:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.4.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150824111443.11595.94614.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 04:14:43 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: eppext@ietf.org Subject: [eppext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-07.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:14:44 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Extensible Provisioning Protocol Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : Key Relay Mapping for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol Authors : Rik Ribbers Marc Groeneweg Miek Gieben Antoin Verschuren Filename : draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-07.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2015-08-24 Abstract: This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) mapping for a key relay object that relays DNSSEC key material between EPP clients using the poll queue defined in RFC5730. This key relay mapping will help facilitate changing the DNS operator of a domain while keeping the DNSSEC chain of trust intact. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Aug 24 04:16:26 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68B11B3393 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 04:16:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.084 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.084 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72flKk79ry1f for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 04:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arn2-kamx.sidn.nl (kamx.sidn.nl [IPv6:2a00:d78:0:147:94:198:152:69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02ED41B3392 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 04:16:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; d=sidn.nl; s=sidn-nl; c=relaxed/relaxed; h=from:to:subject:thread-topic:thread-index:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to:accept-language:content-language:x-ms-has-attach:x-ms-tnef-correlator:x-originating-ip:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=pAMOOn+hEW1jD3AvO9+cpEao4HScrFiHxl6GuutUHZE=; b=l+9G8UcG9tS/Hddk4SqDct6Kg5ZmBLe6iC1d8O2WJgT05Uo2FXdm7aiRfQFuEUqp3z0Fz2icr9Fa194FVZs2+EVtWaVzPzSfz2MeAyhycmtncZZsXKZPzV+aKltyuflpbGCxb2QosQtdqEmeP/hb4FpehvbjfR6i22KNSR+iVr7pTp0lyoBvH4CwcWNbpiQXFyorSLgwZYfWj5WNM8skRrAoCo0Zu8vjN0rBjELMgASSrfZT3z6v6O8m/KjfOsbYe59phF9ltfYnrVZpzoELPPznfgb+4lffX3VJIMfiQn7APrTNws+CUWDM7pO2832eKhTlrIJgsHDgWvmbx4YbBg== Received: from ka-mbx02.SIDN.local ([192.168.2.178]) by arn2-kamx.sidn.nl with ESMTP id t7OBGKPb007311-t7OBGKPd007311 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=CAFAIL) for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:16:20 +0200 Received: from KAHUBCASN02.SIDN.local (192.168.2.76) by ka-mbx02.SIDN.local (192.168.2.178) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1076.9; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:16:21 +0200 Received: from KAMBX1.SIDN.local ([fe80::501d:affc:30a9:4edf]) by kahubcasn02 ([192.168.2.74]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:16:21 +0200 From: Rik Ribbers To: "eppext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [eppext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-07.txt Thread-Index: AQHQ3l4kZiAL3cXCW0GxSeLRJyhvDp4a/5Eg Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:16:21 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20150824111443.11595.94614.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20150824111443.11595.94614.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: nl-NL, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.2.171] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [eppext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-07.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:16:23 -0000 Sorry for spamming but I fixed the changelog.... it was a merge mistakes on= my part. Gr, Rik=20 -----Original Message----- From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@= ietf.org Sent: maandag 24 augustus 2015 13:15 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: eppext@ietf.org Subject: [eppext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-07.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Extensible Provisioning Protocol Extensio= ns Working Group of the IETF. Title : Key Relay Mapping for the Extensible Provisioning= Protocol Authors : Rik Ribbers Marc Groeneweg Miek Gieben Antoin Verschuren Filename : draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-07.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2015-08-24 Abstract: This document describes an Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) mapping for a key relay object that relays DNSSEC key material between EPP clients using the poll queue defined in RFC5730. This key relay mapping will help facilitate changing the DNS operator of a domain while keeping the DNSSEC chain of trust intact. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-eppext-keyrelay-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ EppExt mailing list EppExt@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eppext From nobody Mon Aug 24 05:26:59 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654641B33A5 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 05:26:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.984 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.984 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7iA-kzXwv4g5 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 2015 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= Dear Marc,
Thanks for your review. Please see my reply inline wi= th the beginning of [Linlin].
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Date: 20= 15-08-24 20:26
Subject: Re: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft= -zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping-01.txt
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Dear Linlin,
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Herewith, as promise= d, my feedback on the draft proposal on the reseller object:
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=0A<= div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">General: why is this draft called draft-zhou-e= ppext-reseller-mapping instead of draft-zhou-eppext-reseller? This is mean= t to be the specification of the reseller=0A object?
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And as such, wouldn't the current draft-zhou-eppext= -reseller be the draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-ext? As it is the description = of the extensions for reseller to=0A other objects?
    [Linlin] It seems like a good idea that could make t= he drafts more clear by the names. pherhaps I'm good at naminig drafts.
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Section 3.3. Reseller State
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Isn=E2=80=99t it a good idea to use the same states = for reseller as is for contacts? So something like this:
=0A=E2=80=9C  &= nbsp;A reseller object MUST always have at least one associated status
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   value.  Status values can= be set only by the client that sponsors a
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&nbs= p;  reseller object and by the server on which the object resides. &n= bsp;A
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   client can change the status= of a reseller object using the EPP
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  &nbs= p;<update> command.  Each status value MAY be accompanied by a = string
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   of human-readable text that= describes the rationale for the status
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   A client MUST NOT alter status values set by= the server.  A server
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   MAY al= ter or override status values set by a client, subject to local=0A
   server policies.  The status of an obje= ct MAY change as a result of
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   Status values that ca= n be added or removed by a client are prefixed
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   removed by a server a= re prefixed with "server".  Status values that
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   do not begin with either "client" or "server" are server= -managed.
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&n= bsp;  Status Value Descriptions:
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   -  clientDeleteProhibited, ser= verDeleteProhibited
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      Reques= ts to delete the object MUST be rejected.
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   -  clientUpdateProhibited= , serverUpdateProhibited
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    &nb= sp; Requests to update the object (other than to remove this status)
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      MUST be rejected.
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      The contact objec= t has at least one active association with
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&nbs= p;     another object, such as a domain object.  Servers SH= OULD provide
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      services to d= etermine existing object associations.
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   -  ok
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      This is the normal status value for an objec= t that has no pending
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<= font face=3D"Courier" style=3D"font-size: 12px;">      oper= ations or prohibitions.  This value is set and removed by the<= /div>=0A
      server as other status values a= re added or removed.
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,and furt= her=E2=80=9D with a paragraph title 3.3. Status Values?
=0AThis way, you stay close to the other object spe= cifications within EPP. Don=E2=80=99t you agree?
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Section 4= .1.2. EPP <info> command
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There is a space that should b= e omitted directly under the example: "The < reseller:i= nfData>".=0A It should be "The <reselle= r:infData>=E2=80=9D.=0A

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When using the general accepted State Velues, the line <reseller:= state> should be more like this:
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"- One or more &= lt;reseller:status> elements that describe the status of the reseller o= bject.=E2=80=9D
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At SIDN, we= use a specific element <reselller:tradingName> for identifying= the organisational name of the reseller. This is, as I believe, also= the case with the reseller extension used by Nominet.
=0AAs such, we don=E2=80=99t use a <rese= ller:postalInfo> element, but only a <reseller:address> element. = In your specification you can have one or two name elements for the same r= eseller, because you can have one or two <reseller:postalInfo>=0A el= ements. Which name element should one pick? I strongly suggest to use a co= nstruction of a more general approach to the name, such as SIDN or No= minet uses.
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At SIDN, the <resel= ler:email> element is deemed to be optional, as is the case with the ge= neral <contact:email> element. Make it mandatory by registry policy,= not by schema definition.
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I suggest to explicitly refer the <reseller:url> to a URL, lik= e "A <reseller:url> element that contains the= URL to the website of the reseller=E2=80=9D.
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What is the benefit = of using a contact object within the reseller? Have you seen a real u= se case for this? Otherwise, I suggest to drop this from your specificatio= ns.
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A question regarding the = deletion of a reseller object: can one delete a reseller object when it is= used as a parentID to other reseller objects? Does it delete all ass= ociations for underlying objects, or must one first delete=0A the child re= ferences?
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When I read section &nbs= p;4.2.5 <reseller:update> I came up with the question if a registrar= object exists in your registry system. At SIDN, a registrar is a nor= mal contact, so no roles a defined within this object, as is seemingl= y=0A the case with your definition of a reseller. Roles are solely us= ed at domain level with appropriate references to the contact identif= iers. Can you give any clarifications on this?
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Further, I think you=E2=80=99ve done a great job in starting = a discussion on standardising the reseller object, which is used by some r= egistries. I hope we can achieve a real standard on this, in which all reg= istries can comply to.
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Regards,
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Marc Groeneweg=0A

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Fro= m: Linlin Zhou
Date: 2015-08-25 10:09
Subject: Re: R= e: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping-01.txt
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= Dear Marc,
Thanks for your review. Please see my reply in= line with the beginning of [Linlin].
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Regards,<= /div>
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Linlin Zhou
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Date:&n= bsp;2015-08-24 20:26
Subject: Re: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action:= draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping-01.txt
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Dear Linlin,
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Herewith, as pro= mised, my feedback on the draft proposal on the reseller object:=0A
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<= span style=3D"font-size: 12px;">General: why is this draft called draft-zh= ou-eppext-reseller-mapping instead of draft-zhou-eppext-reseller? This is = meant to be the specification of the reseller=0A object?
=0AAnd as such, wouldn't the current draft-zhou-ep= pext-reseller be the draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-ext? As it is the descript= ion of the extensions for reseller to=0A other objects?
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Section 3.3. Reseller State
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Isn=E2=80=99t it a good idea to use the same states = for reseller as is for contacts? So something like this:
=0A=E2=80=9C  &= nbsp;A reseller object MUST always have at least one associated status
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   client can change the status= of a reseller object using the EPP
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  &nbs= p;<update> command.  Each status value MAY be accompanied by a = string
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   A client MUST NOT alter status values set by= the server.  A server
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   Status values that ca= n be added or removed by a client are prefixed
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   removed by a server a= re prefixed with "server".  Status values that
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   -  clientDeleteProhibited, ser= verDeleteProhibited
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      Reques= ts to delete the object MUST be rejected.
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      The contact objec= t has at least one active association with
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   -  ok
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      This is the normal status value for an objec= t that has no pending
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,and furt= her=E2=80=9D with a paragraph title 3.3. Status Values?
=0AThis way, you stay close to the other object spe= cifications within EPP. Don=E2=80=99t you agree?
    [Linlin] 
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Section 4= .1.2. EPP <info> command
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There is a space that should b= e omitted directly under the example: "The < reseller:i= nfData>".=0A It should be "The <reselle= r:infData>=E2=80=9D.=0A

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When using the general accepted State Velues, the line <reseller:= state> should be more like this:
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"- One or more &= lt;reseller:status> elements that describe the status of the reseller o= bject.=E2=80=9D
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At SIDN, we= use a specific element <reselller:tradingName> for identifying= the organisational name of the reseller. This is, as I believe, also= the case with the reseller extension used by Nominet.
=0AAs such, we don=E2=80=99t use a <rese= ller:postalInfo> element, but only a <reseller:address> element. = In your specification you can have one or two name elements for the same r= eseller, because you can have one or two <reseller:postalInfo>=0A el= ements. Which name element should one pick? I strongly suggest to use a co= nstruction of a more general approach to the name, such as SIDN or No= minet uses.
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At SIDN, the <resel= ler:email> element is deemed to be optional, as is the case with the ge= neral <contact:email> element. Make it mandatory by registry policy,= not by schema definition.
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I suggest to explicitly refer the <reseller:url> to a URL, lik= e "A <reseller:url> element that contains the= URL to the website of the reseller=E2=80=9D.
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What is the benefit = of using a contact object within the reseller? Have you seen a real u= se case for this? Otherwise, I suggest to drop this from your specificatio= ns.
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A question regarding the = deletion of a reseller object: can one delete a reseller object when it is= used as a parentID to other reseller objects? Does it delete all ass= ociations for underlying objects, or must one first delete=0A the child re= ferences?
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When I read section &nbs= p;4.2.5 <reseller:update> I came up with the question if a registrar= object exists in your registry system. At SIDN, a registrar is a nor= mal contact, so no roles a defined within this object, as is seemingl= y=0A the case with your definition of a reseller. Roles are solely us= ed at domain level with appropriate references to the contact identif= iers. Can you give any clarifications on this?
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Further, I think you=E2=80=99ve done a great job in starting = a discussion on standardising the reseller object, which is used by some r= egistries. I hope we can achieve a real standard on this, in which all reg= istries can comply to.
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Regards,
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Dear Marc,
Thanks for your review. Please see my= completed reply inline with the beginning of [Linlin].

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Date: 2015-08-24 20:26
To: Linlin Zhou; = eppext@ietf.org
Subjec= t: Re: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mappin= g-01.txt
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Herewith, as promised, my feedback on the draft pr= oposal on the reseller object:
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Gen= eral: why is this draft called draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping instead = of draft-zhou-eppext-reseller? This is meant to be the specification of th= e reseller=0A object?
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And as s= uch, wouldn't the current draft-zhou-eppext-reseller be the draft-zhou-epp= ext-reseller-ext? As it is the description of the extensions for reseller = to=0A other objects?
    = [Linlin] It seems like a good idea that could make the drafts more clear b= y the names. Pherhaps I'm not good at naminig drafts.
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Sec= tion 3.3. Reseller State
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Isn= =E2=80=99t it a good idea to use the same states for reseller as is for co= ntacts? So something like this:
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=E2=80=9C   A reseller object MU= ST always have at least one associated status
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   value.  Status values can be set only by the clien= t that sponsors a
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   reseller object = and by the server on which the object resides.  A
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   <update> comman= d.  Each status value MAY be accompanied by a string
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   applied to the ob= ject.
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 =  A client MUST NOT alter status values set by the server.  A se= rver
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   MAY alter or override status = values set by a client, subject to local
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 =  server policies.  The status of an object MAY change as a resu= lt of
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   Status values that can be added or removed by = a client are prefixed
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=0A<= div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">   removed by a server are prefixed with "server". &n= bsp;Status values that
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   Status Value Descr= iptions:
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      Requests to update the ob= ject (other than to remove this status)
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      The contact object has at least one active as= sociation with
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      another obj= ect, such as a domain object.  Servers SHOULD provide
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    &n= bsp; This is the normal status value for an object that has no pending
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 = ;     server as other status values are added or removed.=
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,and further=E2=80=9D with a paragra= ph title 3.3. Status Values?
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T= his way, you stay close to the other object specifications within EPP. Don= =E2=80=99t you agree?
    [Linlin] Our original intention is to a= void the confusion with the core EPP status element. So the element name a= nd values are all diffenrent from the existing EPP. The state value refer = to https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft= -arias-noguchi-dnrd-objects-mapping-05#section-5.4.1.1.  We = will consider this problem and discuss the status values in mailing list.<= /span>
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Section 4.1.2. EPP <info> command
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There is a space that should be omitted directly under the example: "The < reseller:infData>The <reseller:infData>=E2=80=9D= .
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&= nbsp;   = [Linlin] Thanks. This space should be deleted.
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When using the general acce= pted State Velues, the line <reseller:state> should be more like thi= s:
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"- One or more <reseller:status> elements = that describe the status of the reseller object.=E2=80=9D
    [Linlin] See the second answer.
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As such, we don=E2=80=99t u= se a <reseller:postalInfo> element, but only a <reseller:address&= gt; element. In your specification you can have one or two name elements f= or the same reseller, because you can have one or two <reseller:postalI= nfo>=0A elements. Which name element should one pick? I strongly sugges= t to use a construction of a more general approach to the name, such = as SIDN or Nominet uses.
    [Linlin] Could you please give me a = simple example of the postal info elements used in SIDN and Nominet which = could help me better understand your proposal?
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At SIDN, the <reseller:email> element is deemed to be o= ptional, as is the case with the general <contact:email> element. Ma= ke it mandatory by registry policy, not by schema definition.
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=     [Linlin] In RFC5733, the <contact:email> is not optional. Please re= fer to section 3.1.2 and section 4 for detailed information.
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I suggest to explicitly refer the= <reseller:url> to a URL, like "A <reselle= r:url> element that contains the URL to the website of the = reseller=E2=80=9D.
   = [Linlin] OK.=
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What is the benefit of using a co= ntact object within the reseller? Have you seen a real use case for t= his? Otherwise, I suggest to drop this from your specifications.
   
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=0AA question regarding the deletion = of a reseller object: can one delete a reseller object when it is used as = a parentID to other reseller objects? Does it delete all associations= for underlying objects, or must one first delete=0A the child references?=
    [Linlin] The text "A re= seller object SHOULD NOT be deleted if it is associated with <= /span>other known = objects. An associated reseller SHOULD NOT be deleted until associations with o= ther known objects have been broken. " Do you think this is sufficient to clarify y= our question?
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When I read section =  4.2.5 <reseller:update> I came up with the question if a regis= trar object exists in your registry system. At SIDN, a registrar is a= normal contact, so no roles a defined within this object, as is seem= ingly=0A the case with your definition of a reseller. Roles are solel= y used at domain level with appropriate references to the contact ide= ntifiers. Can you give any clarifications on this?
  &nbs= p; [Linlin]&n= bsp;I'm sorry that I don't understand this problem very well. I guess you = mean how does a registrar have a relationship with a reseller. The pa= rentId of a reseller should have a refernce to its corresponding registrar= 's 'contact identifier'. Just like the domain object does.  =0A

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<= span style=3D"font-size: 12px;">Further, I think you=E2=80=99ve done a gre= at job in starting a discussion on standardising the reseller object, whic= h is used by some registries. I hope we can achieve a real standard on thi= s, in which all registries can comply to.
   = [Linlin] Thank you.=
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Thanks for your review. Please see my reply in= line with the beginning of [Linlin].

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Date: 2015-08-24 20:57
Subject: Re: [= eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-01.txt
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Herewith, as promised, my feedback on the draft proposal on the r= eseller extension:
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General: why is this dra= ft called draft-zhou-eppext-reseller instead of draft-zhou-eppext-reseller= -ext? As it is the description of the extensions for reseller=0A to o= ther objects?
    [Linlin] Ok. I think this is a good suggesti= on.
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What is the reason= you reference to [RFC5732] and [RFC5733], as the extension only exte= nds the domain object [RFC5731]?
    [Linlin] This document does not only specify t= he reseller extension of domian object, but also host and contact objects.= So [RFC5732] and [RFC5733] are in the reference section.
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I= n general, shouldn=E2=80=99t refer to the reseller elements as resell= er ext elements, as it describes the extensions to existing elements = with reseller information?
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I.e. the extensi= on to the <info> command being a child <resellerExt:infData> i= nstead of <reseller:infData>? This seems more obvious to me. Oh wait= a moment, in your example you do call it reseller=0A ext:inflate. The tekst is not in line with = the example.
    [Linlin] Thanks= . The name of the xml schema changed once. So there are three typos in sec= tion 4.1.2 and section 5. These wil be updated next version.
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Why do you have an OPTIONAL <resellerext:name> element? I= sn=E2=80=99t the name of a reseller part of the reseller object? And when = one uses this element, does it refer to the parent reseller?
<= div>    [Linlin] Some sugg= estions metioned that the reseller id is sufficient, no need to add the na= me. To reach a compromise, the element is set optional. It refers to the o= bject reseller not parent reseller.
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What is the purpose&nbs= p;to he following statement?
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"<info> response for the u= nauthorized client has not been changed, see [RFC5731], [RFC5732] and [RFC= 5733]for detail.=E2=80=9D
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    [Linlin] In RFC5731, it defines authorized and unauthorized <info>= responses. The reseller extension will not have effect on unauthorized &l= t;info> resoponse, so these text are added here to clarify.
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<= span style=3D"font-size: 12px;">In section 4.2.1. EPP <create> comma= nd you don=E2=80=99t reference to the OPTIONAL <resellerext:name> el= ement. 
    [Linlin] Section 1= , 'A reseller mapping object defined in [ID.<= span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5; background-color: rgba(= 0, 0, 0, 0);">draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping] SH= OULD be created first. The reseller information specified in this document= SHOULD reference the existing reseller identifier and reseller name.' So = the <create> command will not create name element.
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A= gain, I don=E2=80=99t understand the references to the host and contact ob= jects, since they are not extended in any way.
    [Linlin] The domain extension examples provided in this= document are used for illustation purpose. Host and contact object could be extended=  in the same way with the domain object. Otherwise, the document will= be too prolix.
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I don=E2=80=99t understand the restriction for having only one add,= rem or chg element. This prohibits the construction to change the re= seller from A to B for given domain object. See following example fro= m=0A within .nl:
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    [Linlin] This is a review feedback fro= m Patrik to avoid the mixture of add/rem/chg. See http= ://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/eppext/current/msg00510.html.=0A

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=0A ------=_001_NextPart583565145265_=------ From nobody Thu Aug 27 05:36:57 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F045A1B3AFD for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 05:36:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.084 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.084 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oRMCrw4uC3sq for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 05:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arn2-kamx.sidn.nl (kamx.sidn.nl [IPv6:2a00:d78:0:147:94:198:152:69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A51BE1B3AD4 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 05:36:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; d=sidn.nl; s=sidn-nl; c=relaxed/relaxed; h=from:to:subject:thread-topic:thread-index:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to:accept-language:content-language:x-ms-has-attach:x-ms-tnef-correlator:x-originating-ip:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=RvrrhTOz2JQExn1TMLR8loIDB1XabAwLES7+5Pc1zI8=; b=OHzY2L2m1vLit5PuRlzLkSIRe462pLwDDrLhVKb14eDRKZCz0zIIXfZiz1p34U4yEhlYUj7mKDD1L7YTo0w15dkJ0IInge2baga5HCA2+SEyNwKX42fCgb7yePQb65Qj0JRGkKWMIjTFS7D0IBSKFVIeLtXqXzw0Zo7oZDqLU5tDBhDdGC05wDSfjCobmCGLueydG1bGqD7amkrNTaHffEsKgz9tj7v6REERXu41SEIdua6+WL2DF2BzCtRMfo9t2n2is1/tJj8abS5RSJVCto0wjKAXAIr4YVcRtftIOOyKM59jZLTYBuoBNoG9X9NE5dqaD9MsQMLV1cCrS0vQxg== Received: from ka-mbx02.SIDN.local ([192.168.2.178]) by arn2-kamx.sidn.nl with ESMTP id t7RCajhs002396-t7RCajhu002396 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=CAFAIL); Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:36:45 +0200 Received: from KAHUBCASN01.SIDN.local (192.168.2.75) by ka-mbx02.SIDN.local (192.168.2.178) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1076.9; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:36:46 +0200 Received: from KAMBX1.SIDN.local ([fe80::501d:affc:30a9:4edf]) by kahubcasn01 ([192.168.2.73]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:36:46 +0200 From: Rik Ribbers To: "'Hollenbeck, Scott'" , "eppext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Rechartering? Thread-Index: AdDeW9T3U05bkXorTlO6xQDj08O7BACaOodg Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:36:46 +0000 Message-ID: References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A063306@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A063306@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Accept-Language: nl-NL, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.2.171] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [eppext] Rechartering? X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:36:55 -0000 Good question, perhaps the chairs could send an update on the mailing list? Gr, Rik=20 -----Original Message----- From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hollenbeck, Scot= t Sent: maandag 24 augustus 2015 12:59 To: eppext@ietf.org Subject: [eppext] Rechartering? So where are we with respect to the rechartering discussion? Scott _______________________________________________ EppExt mailing list EppExt@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eppext From nobody Thu Aug 27 08:16:01 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72E11B2ABA for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 08:16:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.978 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.978 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qqpXhlkoFnPZ for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 08:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yk0-f182.google.com (mail-yk0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86FF31B2A1E for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 08:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ykfw73 with SMTP id w73so23077638ykf.3 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 08:15:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ktCccUICt6RRPS/oz/xcMt7o4NxVMP+Hgda7dK+RN9A=; b=Ms5ttxXV/1EZC0Wui5qc7iWcA7da774yxjz9rJ12gGhjSp29YYdcCYmLTS+lX2jvN3 eK5S0w4yZx9pTVivmzhIM4v5eRbuxitSVTtXFUS/bebFJhPt9DcNZr3PLWKOfIg7CeJd J1tPvnEhwqmAkeqKJ8BmUcD68EzBLR+vjy4Ub06GlCKTUP6Gc78uWBlqmCc/VuAtULtO TFq9ocJImvmvCfW6XGEV/lqj9zy+iVrKuJ3XXFfZo+Kp7XZmZr5cpQbd/0X9N41L3mbC PaiiWfx2RNeiNc8CpV04VYrhKr/NANMi4BchbJGiLV2hednLco51ZYbbZa/OfaOdlLov ajAw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmQYI1RUBcxN84ly1T5YfLsypTi0SyhdXGgHCdcxneqF9O7oc1n019MUjofVXli759wyyfY MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.13.193.1 with SMTP id c1mr3855919ywd.172.1440688557699; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 08:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.216.79 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 08:15:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [192.149.252.137] In-Reply-To: References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A063306@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 11:15:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: Andrew Newton To: Rik Ribbers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: Cc: "Hollenbeck, Scott" , "eppext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [eppext] Rechartering? X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:16:00 -0000 It did not appear on the last IESG telechat: http://www.ietf.org/iesg/minutes/2015/minutes-2015-08-06.txt Nor is it on the agenda for the next: https://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/agenda/#4 -andy On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Rik Ribbers wrote: > Good question, perhaps the chairs could send an update on the mailing list? > > Gr, > Rik > > -----Original Message----- > From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hollenbeck, Scott > Sent: maandag 24 augustus 2015 12:59 > To: eppext@ietf.org > Subject: [eppext] Rechartering? > > So where are we with respect to the rechartering discussion? > > Scott > > _______________________________________________ > EppExt mailing list > EppExt@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eppext > > _______________________________________________ > EppExt mailing list > EppExt@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eppext From nobody Thu Aug 27 16:55:18 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC7B1B2ED6 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:55:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NRRCmVw6l4ux for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-f48.google.com (mail-qg0-f48.google.com [209.85.192.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3514B1B2EFB for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qgdu11 with SMTP id u11so6034204qgd.1 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:55:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=stxWAC4itqMueOY/b36TWGXjo35YWabzlR8uKenaKb0=; b=AdT12dyd4elmGBo9VtSEiyFKVO8EmJ+poVXQJC19bfioGjEGlMbOsLBczV8J+7fOnr PS8J4SXIYfvhJiiwiw0MW0H33ZtQ97rzOaRpiSD/8A0aBJjhgiOtmh/msOnfbVt62KvN SiwQQM7aLPvkO2jjouTZ0ZNJ+LrBG/lRY7sLaqsXtLff0IKWxSqbMcUUlYgzXgVaDxC2 1jXNFp22+qtt8NaScY24XyZJ5R95OE03DYdOp1/ZB6Wvt4YAaPsoOFbcb0qyAx0f8XgZ Blzw1prRzxRIDlcdLb+yeDQO+NP1W3Hwr9RrbGVOCSsSRlPDDLmgfA+IcyZWh47keWZ/ oRVw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnaVgXpiBZf/9dnfwp+J6isT1ru2lcZcBWdHI16D4zOJMZ76mMXJ1ykE+YRnY8JPuzDs26Z X-Received: by 10.140.133.145 with SMTP id 139mr11709751qhf.97.1440719715528; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jgalvin-lt.local (c-73-133-108-218.hsd1.md.comcast.net. [73.133.108.218]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id s12sm2232494qkl.2.2015.08.27.16.55.13 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:55:14 -0700 (PDT) To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" , "eppext@ietf.org" References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A063306@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> From: James Galvin Message-ID: <55DFA3D0.1080906@elistx.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:57:04 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A063306@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [eppext] Rechartering? X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 23:55:17 -0000 We had a couple suggestions for the charter. I'll send a revision to the list tomorrow and then we need to submit it to Barry to move forward. One other somewhat substantive part is the proposed schedule. I'll have a suggestion in the revision tomorrow and the working group will want to review that carefully before we submit it to Barry. Jim On 8/24/15 6:58 AM, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > So where are we with respect to the rechartering discussion? > > Scott From nobody Thu Aug 27 18:30:17 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11FC1B2B42 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 18:30:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.712 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.712 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eKJC_Q5S_Ksw for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 18:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp13.cnnic.cn [218.241.118.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E30C1B2B34 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 18:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Foxmail (unknown [218.241.111.73]) by ocmail02.zx.nicx.cn (Coremail) with SMTP id AQAAf0B5pnF_ud9VhVa+Bw--.24578S2; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 09:29:35 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 09:31:13 +0800 From: "Linlin Zhou" To: "James Galvin" References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A063306@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com>, <55DFA3D0.1080906@elistx.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Has-Attach: no X-Mailer: Foxmail 7, 2, 5, 136[cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <201508280931129643584@cnnic.cn> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_001_NextPart230020222513_=----" X-CM-TRANSID: AQAAf0B5pnF_ud9VhVa+Bw--.24578S2 X-Coremail-Antispam: 1UD129KBjvdXoWrKr15Ar13tr1kAF4kWF1rWFg_yoW3WFb_Cr 92qFykCr1DAFs2gFsrAFZ8KrnrX342gFyUA3yDJrn7ZFy0yr1DJrWfK343Ww1rJ3yvvr17 Gr1fKrWjkw4a9jkaLaAFLSUrUUUUUb8apTn2vfkv8UJUUUU8Yxn0WfASr-VFAUDa7-sFnT 9fnUUIcSsGvfJTRUUUbfkYjsxI4VWxJwAYFVCjjxCrM7AC8VAFwI0_Jr0_Gr1l1xkIjI8I 6I8E6xAIw20EY4v20xvaj40_Wr0E3s1l1IIY67AEw4v_Jr0_Jr4l8cAvFVAK0II2c7xJM2 8CjxkF64kEwVA0rcxSw2x7M28EF7xvwVC0I7IYx2IY67AKxVW7JVWDJwA2z4x0Y4vE2Ix0 cI8IcVCY1x0267AKxVW8Jr0_Cr1UM28EF7xvwVC2z280aVAFwI0_Gr1j6F4UJwA2z4x0Y4 vEx4A2jsIEc7CjxVAFwI0_Cr1j6rxdM2AIxVAIcxkEcVAq07x20xvEncxIr21l5I8CrVCF 0I0E4I0vr24lYx0E2Ix0cI8IcVAFwI0_Jr0_Jr4lYx0Ex4A2jsIE14v26r1j6r4UMcvjeV CFs4IE7xkEbVWUJVW8JwACjcxG0xvY0x0EwIxGrwACY4xI67k04243AVAKzVAKj4xxM4xv F2IEb7IF0Fy26I8I3I1lc2xSY4AK67AK6w4l42xK82IYc2Ij64vIr41l4I8I3I0E4IkC6x 0Yz7v_Jr0_Gr1lx2IqxVAqx4xG67AKxVWUGVWUWwC20s026x8GjcxK67AKxVWUGVWUWwC2 zVAF1VAY17CE14v26r1Y6r17MIIYrxkI7VAKI48JMIIF0xvE2Ix0cI8IcVAFwI0_Jr0_JF 4lIxAIcVC0I7IYx2IY6xkF7I0E14v26r1j6r4UMIIF0xvE42xK8VAvwI8IcIk0rVWrZr1j 6s0DMIIF0xvEx4A2jsIE14v26r1j6r4UMIIF0xvEx4A2jsIEc7CjxVAFwI0_Jr0_Gr1l6V ACY4xI67k04243AbIYCTnIWIevJa73UjIFyTuYvjxU2eMNUUUUU X-CM-SenderInfo: p2kr3zplqox0w6fq0xffof0/ Archived-At: Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?B?SG9sbGVuYmVjaywgU2NvdHQ=?= , "eppext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [eppext] Rechartering? 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=0A ------=_001_NextPart230020222513_=------ From nobody Fri Aug 28 14:25:47 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569611B2B7F for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:25:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GicaO27gnLmc for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-f53.google.com (mail-qg0-f53.google.com [209.85.192.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 695BD1B29A8 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qgj62 with SMTP id 62so37111117qgj.2 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:25:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:cc:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=nRCEKzFW/CdOnLNZTBx/yk7DP/jXpKJF/K840fWVwKI=; b=NBTzZpKha6mksHtYF3Oihr5yXaMLktoi+/Fw/PHV1phARoVyDRUUk0Br6n4PpYpKPm UpjU6H3+YDHMj9iFh095Vi9XjQxsp4bdBLh5H1pIJEBckDpGyNB9uC8aDe1z74qvEQ5f ZqgU0lLRxVzBUjKfz6S+BvvyY6WIodKrvgwMvvjrMk4lpvykZ/SGLGw0jQtqPgJy+SSg dv+Ubqi4Yrx5OFEAeAB0gEKKzJxbwfR+5Qy8feW6ZsH8aIXJ6gnYedmjr85UJUR7N28X PdWGTKHEZBW324m03EG3O0Nf1wGJYCAMsR2AP2hATYxkAH9J6l+OsX372FrAlU6v+Srl YrlQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmPDp7/BlwXF1GPtGwEkZtKx9/Ob3mwAXwpuiYHin1hORVNpM56iIUknRwuFGhm8LUXs9+w X-Received: by 10.140.237.140 with SMTP id i134mr20568432qhc.81.1440797142686; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jgalvin-lt.local (c-73-133-108-218.hsd1.md.comcast.net. [73.133.108.218]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id a21sm4188833qge.26.2015.08.28.14.25.41 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:25:41 -0700 (PDT) To: eppext From: James Galvin Message-ID: <55E0D247.2020408@elistx.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:27:35 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090100060109000403040702" Archived-At: Cc: Barry Leiba Subject: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 21:25:45 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090100060109000403040702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There were two suggestions on the list for extending the charter. One seemed to suggest being the home for all protocol extensions. A second was to focus on just RDAP and EPP extensions. I believe the restriction to just RDAP and EPP had more support. There were a few people who suggested they didn't really want to join the two protocols but they also said they would not object to joining them. I counted this as support for the merge. Marc Blanchet proposed a new name of REGistration protocols EXTensions (REGEXT). There were no objections so I adopted it in this revised draft. Here is a draft for consideration by the working group. I have not yet added milestones, which are necessary before submitting this to the IESG for review. I also have to finish reviewing the discussion for the 3 documents in WGLC so I can make sure to include them appropriately in this charter. Please comment on this charter and suggest milestones for inclusion by Friday, 4 September 2015. 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There were no objections so I adopted it in this revised draft. I think changing the name is a fine thing, but just to alert y'all so it doesn't seem weird when I do it: Because of the change to the short name (eppext to regext), and the way things are keyed in the datatracker, I will handle this by chartering a new working group with the same chairs, and then close the eppext working group once the regext charter is approved and active. We can also change the mailing list name at the same time, and leave "eppext" as an alias for it. That way, everyone will still be subscribed and no one will have to change anything. 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[73.133.108.218]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 95sm2231485qgt.12.2015.08.29.03.48.46 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 29 Aug 2015 03:48:46 -0700 (PDT) To: Barry Leiba References: <55E0D247.2020408@elistx.com> From: James Galvin Message-ID: <55E18E82.3070106@elistx.com> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 06:50:42 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: eppext Subject: Re: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:48:50 -0000 Thanks Barry. Jim On 8/28/15 7:01 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: >> Marc Blanchet proposed a new name of REGistration protocols EXTensions >> (REGEXT). There were no objections so I adopted it in this revised draft. > > I think changing the name is a fine thing, but just to alert y'all so > it doesn't seem weird when I do it: > > Because of the change to the short name (eppext to regext), and the > way things are keyed in the datatracker, I will handle this by > chartering a new working group with the same chairs, and then close > the eppext working group once the regext charter is approved and > active. > > We can also change the mailing list name at the same time, and leave > "eppext" as an alias for it. That way, everyone will still be > subscribed and no one will have to change anything. > > Barry > From nobody Sun Aug 30 08:23:30 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E4D1A1E0E for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 08:23:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.978 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.978 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LXS3-fNSNbD3 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 08:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yk0-f181.google.com (mail-yk0-f181.google.com [209.85.160.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51F0C1A1A8F for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 08:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ykey204 with SMTP id y204so25175770yke.3 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 08:23:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=B95qRpfxhgNh9OtpSplp6tWBF7+6nSBBn7gbH306O0k=; b=BGyG8VkzerYKjN/ds0LsnNONRPjSs3+KZaCGvR+x+8UdneskAB5kILWy8Frs7qsBRh bH7uc91wpvcMukzlqT09iMkVOfRCK5kjwr4ewD7R5E79a7A9xOO6jP3Uaqdx1xK5DKJ5 pkD/m+faKtZ5a7HeSr98h8n6AtBKjj+Pins0shlydaiPVJ4MVm5HgbyeN9b4vTBifN9j UgjE+6h0Vcst3A+eYw/Uj3bSDt6oFUMBmLGEaQbxxZXl0Hx/jPeUeeBvPTqDrvbrYfIC IBPMvBVF6JnnCek2eI+yFSPAzbyzxR7CaD+mr0/zrLpJTYEdzC22BLhbjRlECKPlBKI/ rQLA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmfFeP+y7SEl0gJyAyGYKV76yr9Na9Sc8eVA2fRLuGUVu6lxcjPMfzq9nYR3NSxs23DDnNs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.170.198.88 with SMTP id p85mr17394334yke.94.1440948207608; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 08:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.223.4 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 08:23:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [96.241.188.13] In-Reply-To: References: <55E0D247.2020408@elistx.com> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:23:27 -0400 Message-ID: From: Andrew Newton To: Barry Leiba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: Cc: eppext , James Galvin Subject: Re: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:23:29 -0000 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: > We can also change the mailing list name at the same time, and leave > "eppext" as an alias for it. That way, everyone will still be > subscribed and no one will have to change anything. Would we also want to alias the WEIRDS list as well? -andy From nobody Mon Aug 31 00:16:05 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A1C1B2D30 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 00:16:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.707 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.707 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HELO_EQ_DK=1.009, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BvudmIwvhBxx for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 00:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vocal.dk-hostmaster.dk (vocal.dk-hostmaster.dk [IPv6:2a01:630:0:40::9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBE4B1B2D29 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 00:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imap1.dkhm (imap1.dkhm [172.16.1.85]) by vocal.dk-hostmaster.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714A1E0581 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:16:00 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dk-hostmaster.dk; s=dkhm-20130923; t=1441005360; bh=2EQvuJVzxj6/m9GvGorG3of36sXTOkXKqbd4t8u5Zds=; h=From:Content-Type:Subject:Message-Id:Date:To:Mime-Version; b=KY2HcCjlKKBd3ErbCWpbJk1/IdVQH3M1Kusl+beoj1tf1CSyfyLmy1/778PBUDuhd OW15ChVA8bpFTLEORZAcmyW3w+mzI7FpWAmnP/VfHz0tIWmUwb5bWMDYMVh0QhgW5A DBgI6iljDq9pEFLYai2eeiIhXEldNObqRBWxKP4Q= Received: from jonasbn.dkhm (jonasbn.dkhm [172.16.20.67]) by imap1.dkhm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE1636B07 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:16:00 +0200 (CEST) From: "Jonas B. Nielsen" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0C7512BB-79BC-4F12-A89E-A0E435DBC130@dk-hostmaster.dk> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:17:02 +0200 To: eppext@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Subject: [eppext] Registration of extensions or not X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:16:03 -0000 Hello All, I have read up on RFC:7451 and one thing is not completely clear to me = after reading the document. Should or should we not register extensions? We have a number of extensions and I would love to register these in the = formal format required, but as described in RFC:7451, these are = implemented to handle our local operational and business models. Would registration be welcomed in order to get a complete overview of = the extensions in use globally or are extensions registered evaluated = more general evaluation. So should or should we not register extensions, eventhough they are very = narrowly scoped for our local domain. Looking forward to hearing from you, jonasbn -- Med venlig hilsen/Best Regards Jonas B. Nielsen=09 Development Team Leader / Team leder for Udvikling Kalvebod Brygge 45, 3. sal 1560 K=C3=B8benhavn V Tlf. +45 33 64 60 60 Mobil: +45 31 54 60 56 Fax.: +45 33 64 60 66 Email: jonasbn@dk-hostmaster.dk Homepage: https://www.dk-hostmaster.dk .dk Danmarks plads p=C3=A5 Internettet = ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dette er en e-mail fra DK Hostmaster A/S. Denne e-mail kan indeholde fortrolig information, som kun er til brug for den tilt=C3=A6nkte = modtager. 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That way, everyone will still be > > subscribed and no one will have to change anything. >=20 > Would we also want to alias the WEIRDS list as well? I wouldn't object to that, but I can also see reasons for leaving it as-is.= We still have RDAP-specific implementation and deployment steps ahead of u= s. It might make sense to talk about any issues that arise on an RDAP-speci= fic list. 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Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:55:51 +0000 From: Roger D Carney To: eppext Thread-Topic: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 Thread-Index: AQHQ4dgdv4YVb4+B6U21md3tnVgWKJ4iB1WAgAP5/+A= Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:55:50 +0000 Message-ID: References: <55E0D247.2020408@elistx.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=rcarney@godaddy.com; x-originating-ip: [71.217.219.133] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; BN1PR02MB117; 5:tUOww8ErwSILY9ClWPlksW7ZcGoSRL8VpHgwPP7tfQl1zDNuL4izRevj/BUizATeu+H0ETtsfFpHK8gM4c6VPzCKambJbkdJCYWXZZByP13XmAxa5nsVs8fPDgqnrR8ARHOO0D21L9HMZIBr/ngU8g==; 24:3msSQ58EHPcAu1wahWUrM7TcG2mqZKWfLqwIndq8ut6FIoR0Pe5YNkw6Ut+vXjmZsPimWUMLvfVWDWCYk+V8CpdjaEaCZoeeS38KodmFJTQ=; 20:nfxRo5u+6Z2HRBEzyQbjtjAj40FeQM939iWwbQeEliHyLh8/IoFQxtWehov62RhxM4jqnENVqwHPwHKXAnS2+Q== x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(42139001); SRVR:BN1PR02MB117; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: godaddy.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 31 Aug 2015 11:55:50.7575 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: d5f1622b-14a3-45a6-b069-003f8dc4851f X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN1PR02MB117 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:55:55 -0000 Thanks Berry, makes sense and sounds great, I like Andy's suggest to includ= e WEIRDS as well as Rik's to include provreg (I think many of us are on mul= tiples of these but it would catch all those that are not). Jim, I would like to suggest including Reseller, Bundling, and Fees to the = milestones, in that order sounds good too. I assume the Key Relay will be = finished under the "old/current" WG/Charter. Thanks Roger =20 -----Original Message----- From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Barry Leiba Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 6:02 PM To: James Galvin Cc: eppext Subject: Re: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 > Marc Blanchet proposed a new name of REGistration protocols EXTensions=20 > (REGEXT). There were no objections so I adopted it in this revised draft= . I think changing the name is a fine thing, but just to alert y'all so it do= esn't seem weird when I do it: Because of the change to the short name (eppext to regext), and the way thi= ngs are keyed in the datatracker, I will handle this by chartering a new wo= rking group with the same chairs, and then close the eppext working group o= nce the regext charter is approved and active. We can also change the mailing list name at the same time, and leave "eppex= t" as an alias for it. That way, everyone will still be subscribed and no = one will have to change anything. Barry _______________________________________________ EppExt mailing list EppExt@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eppext From nobody Mon Aug 31 05:15:54 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2DC1B43FF for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 05:15:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.294 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.294 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gz1x9O-ZJQ22 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 05:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arn2-kamx.sidn.nl (kamx.sidn.nl [IPv6:2a00:d78:0:147:94:198:152:69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C465C1B441B for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 05:15:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; d=sidn.nl; s=sidn-nl; c=relaxed/relaxed; h=from:to:subject:thread-topic:thread-index:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to:accept-language:content-language:x-ms-has-attach:x-ms-tnef-correlator:x-originating-ip:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=G7Nu4Ek8IV4J58cbnYSmTw4b2hMbr4lgU1NNy1ms3X8=; b=5splNNrCq5BgmxEp0rx0RBR9J0ewYYbCmcLq29EAZaKw32sslj8pDvj/BVG18kxfjiT8dM9yq+CVfQJ2Hw8/hhTzl9EbYOrcwzQwtdzWJTdTJljXuNkMfZfpkuaQ+e+mqeBPG+LYrWK4iJMhPnYdqfleJj+tsdLsD2kXQ0bYhqH9EWAvLoMFB2UwDRZPfYFzYFfRQsrtopYixSnlvO2cP6esKXi1TEf3bFXnlXLHLbx2lEE6Jrt2pVoq2BSVAI1OL23F0/TVAp5FCl5d8IN51MiYD/oCUNn9uIaiWXNlQB2+EC/+uMrPAefE1gYpXnWqx7EvKdbDdx5ugCR21WbDjQ== Received: from ka-mbx03.SIDN.local ([192.168.2.179]) by arn2-kamx.sidn.nl with ESMTP id t7VCFBEr022927-t7VCFBEt022927 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=CAFAIL); Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:15:11 +0200 Received: from KAHUBCASN01.SIDN.local (192.168.2.75) by ka-mbx03.SIDN.local (192.168.2.179) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1076.9; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:15:13 +0200 Received: from KAMBX1.SIDN.local ([fe80::501d:affc:30a9:4edf]) by kahubcasn01 ([192.168.2.73]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:15:13 +0200 From: Rik Ribbers To: "'Roger D Carney'" , eppext Thread-Topic: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 Thread-Index: AQHQ4dgdwuPCnNEtyUuPjbNmnnlSQJ4h5c6AgAP88ACAACRyoA== Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:15:12 +0000 Message-ID: References: <55E0D247.2020408@elistx.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: nl-NL, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.2.171] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:15:53 -0000 > I assume the Key Relay will be finished under the "old/current" WG/Charte= r. And of coarse the launchphase and smd drafts -----Original Message----- From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Roger D Carney Sent: maandag 31 augustus 2015 13:56 To: eppext Subject: Re: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 Thanks Berry, makes sense and sounds great, I like Andy's suggest to includ= e WEIRDS as well as Rik's to include provreg (I think many of us are on mul= tiples of these but it would catch all those that are not). Jim, I would like to suggest including Reseller, Bundling, and Fees to the = milestones, in that order sounds good too Thanks Roger From nobody Mon Aug 31 05:57:04 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955EA1B3F90 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 05:57:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.294 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.294 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i2v12_Y6782H for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 05:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arn2-kamx.sidn.nl (kamx.sidn.nl [IPv6:2a00:d78:0:147:94:198:152:69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A88701B4569 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 05:57:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; d=sidn.nl; s=sidn-nl; c=relaxed/relaxed; h=from:to:subject:thread-topic:thread-index:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to:accept-language:content-language:x-ms-has-attach:x-ms-tnef-correlator:x-originating-ip:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=sDwyo/JmQQ9cDRxu2SFoDjR2MJZ34JumquW9TYGH94Q=; b=OsjUT8Q0FT2v7i9Awx4TJakSpbVU6B6kYsXOwdBo6C078Px1O07SSODle00ttvoTRmDFHOYnRgxJfNU8Yk6pzaLXRztbXYf+B/5TD6Daxt+l/tO6cMm1vgHIgJTSubvUhl/mIQLMipmpXr3Pp2wzmX5333FauKEowZlR1U8zUjPZJnHawsbV/hR7kczRsUoL2rA0SQDSrzEKe1CStdcpvjFnfna06vmSMq3RMepIOqsAEOYdteNtKNJbRvYnshg82YNu3MDtjtJQYIaQv4w0UFsIqVPNeqYObzc3JwJDBjsvTZoUYu7gh9d0YBgf6y62uRb1fl1OCWwhZuQctKDbog== Received: from ka-mbx02.SIDN.local ([192.168.2.178]) by arn2-kamx.sidn.nl with ESMTP id t7VCuxYa025250-t7VCuxYc025250 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=CAFAIL); Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:56:59 +0200 Received: from KAHUBCASN01.SIDN.local (192.168.2.75) by ka-mbx02.SIDN.local (192.168.2.178) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1076.9; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:57:01 +0200 Received: from KAMBX1.SIDN.local ([fe80::501d:affc:30a9:4edf]) by kahubcasn01 ([192.168.2.73]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:57:00 +0200 From: Marc Groeneweg To: "'James Galvin'" , "eppext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 Thread-Index: AQHQ4dgd1inWIPFpfkeatxPQMr04vZ4l2B4AgAA8sMA= Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:57:00 +0000 Message-ID: <5BFD186DCB661E4D951017B0818285AEDE761E65@kambx1.SIDN.local> References: <55E0D247.2020408@elistx.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.2.171] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:57:03 -0000 +1 I agree to extend the EPPEXT with possible extensions to the RDAP protocol.= And please do forward the eppext, provreg and weirds mail to a new regext = list.=20 Regards, Marc Groeneweg -----Original Message----- From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Rik Ribbers Sent: maandag 31 augustus 2015 13:18 To: 'James Galvin'; eppext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 +1 for the charter text One question. If we are creating aliases for mailingllist should we conside= r the provreg mailing list? Then at least all EPP mailing lists I am aware = of are relayed to on place. Gr, Rik=20 -----Original Message----- From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of James Galvin Sent: vrijdag 28 augustus 2015 23:28 To: eppext Cc: Barry Leiba Subject: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 There were two suggestions on the list for extending the charter. One seem= ed to suggest being the home for all protocol extensions. A second was to = focus on just RDAP and EPP extensions. I believe the restriction to just RDAP and EPP had more support. There wer= e a few people who suggested they didn't really want to join the two protoc= ols but they also said they would not object to joining them. I counted th= is as support for the merge. Marc Blanchet proposed a new name of REGistration protocols EXTensions (REG= EXT). There were no objections so I adopted it in this revised draft. Here is a draft for consideration by the working group. I have not yet add= ed milestones, which are necessary before submitting this to the IESG for r= eview. I also have to finish reviewing the discussion for the 3 documents = in WGLC so I can make sure to include them appropriately in this charter. Please comment on this charter and suggest milestones for inclusion by Frid= ay, 4 September 2015. Jim _______________________________________________ EppExt mailing list EppExt@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/eppext From nobody Mon Aug 31 06:16:42 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573311B473B for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:16:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.431 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.431 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LQy2i4QP95bi for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out.west.pexch112.icann.org (pfe112-ca-2.pexch112.icann.org [64.78.40.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B6E31B473C for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.21) by PMBX112-W1-CA-2.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1044.25; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:16:35 -0700 Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org ([64.78.40.21]) by PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG ([64.78.40.21]) with mapi id 15.00.1044.021; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 06:16:35 -0700 From: Edward Lewis To: "eppext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 Thread-Index: AQHQ4dgotzrKbgDz4kiJHJmKV5Edw54mbv0AgAAbuAD//8JkAA== Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:16:34 +0000 Message-ID: References: <55E0D247.2020408@elistx.com> <5BFD186DCB661E4D951017B0818285AEDE761E65@kambx1.SIDN.local> In-Reply-To: <5BFD186DCB661E4D951017B0818285AEDE761E65@kambx1.SIDN.local> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.4.150722 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [192.0.47.234] Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3523857390_16139476" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: 'James Galvin' Subject: Re: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:16:41 -0000 --B_3523857390_16139476 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The practices of operating a registry have been evolving over the past 15 years. Getting PROVREG chartered was a challenge back in 2000, as the IETF felt that EPP wasn't a topic for the organization. As soon as EPP's first round of documents were approved, the WG was shutdown and the PROVREG mail list continued in sort of a vacuum as the industry grew around EPP, this was the root (or a root) cause of why EPPEXT came about. I think having a registry-industry focused extensions WG is a good idea. I'd float the request to pull in documents on data escrow of registry data as well as documents related to trademark clearing house. There are documents related to those two functions already in the IETF floating in individual submission space. Two questions that come to mind are: Would creating a registry-as-a-specific-function WG be something new to the IETF? (I.e., precedent-setting?) And would this be better placed in O&M? The former is a question from what I recall was the stumbling block back in 2000. As much as I think there is a need for documenting how registries work - without unifying in any way - so that ideas can be shared, etc., I hope that the IETF is willing to take this on as a WG. I'll add - I don't see registries continually evolving over time, past a point of maturity. So a WG would have a limited lifetime, not an on-going, ever-expanding function. On 8/31/15, 8:57, "EppExt on behalf of Marc Groeneweg" wrote: >+1 > >I agree to extend the EPPEXT with possible extensions to the RDAP >protocol. And please do forward the eppext, provreg and weirds mail to a >new regext list. > >Regards, >Marc Groeneweg > >-----Original Message----- >From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Rik Ribbers >Sent: maandag 31 augustus 2015 13:18 >To: 'James Galvin'; eppext@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 > >+1 for the charter text > >One question. If we are creating aliases for mailingllist should we >consider the provreg mailing list? Then at least all EPP mailing lists I >am aware of are relayed to on place. > >Gr, >Rik > >-----Original Message----- >From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of James Galvin >Sent: vrijdag 28 augustus 2015 23:28 >To: eppext >Cc: Barry Leiba >Subject: [eppext] revised draft charter - v2 > >There were two suggestions on the list for extending the charter. One >seemed to suggest being the home for all protocol extensions. A second >was to focus on just RDAP and EPP extensions. > >I believe the restriction to just RDAP and EPP had more support. There >were a few people who suggested they didn't really want to join the two >protocols but they also said they would not object to joining them. I >counted this as support for the merge. > >Marc Blanchet proposed a new name of REGistration protocols EXTensions >(REGEXT). There were no objections so I adopted it in this revised draft. > >Here is a draft for consideration by the working group. 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