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Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640E31AD08F for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 02:10:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.79 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.79 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TDfFOitfX2xi for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 02:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from officesmtp1.one.com (officesmtp1.one.com [195.47.247.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01F931AD087 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 02:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (nat-cph1-dev.net.one.com [46.30.211.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by officesmtp1.one.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2082B1800B5655 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:10:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Michael Hansen X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Organization: One.com A/S To: eppext@ietf.org Message-ID: <560E4A1C.7050301@one.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 11:10:52 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090602050704040605050004" Archived-At: Subject: [eppext] Suggestion for check domain extension X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:10:57 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090602050704040605050004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As a registrar I would like to see a standard way in check domain to get information about if a domain is blocked or reserved, like in the AFNIC extension ( http://www.afnic.fr/xml/epp/frnic-1.3): =2E.. =2E.. Using the current check domain it is not possible to identify blocked/reserved domains unless the reason can be parsed, as most just return unavailable for blocked domains, and available for reserved domain= s. It might also be extended with some kind of identifier for who the domain is reserved to (i.e. domain name for .uk domains, or VAT number for .rio domains). Regards Michael Hansen Senior Developer One.com A/S --------------090602050704040605050004 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As a registrar I would like to see a standard way in check domain to get information about if a domain is blocked or reserved, like in the AFNIC extension ( http://www.afnic.fr/xml/epp/frnic-1.3):

...
<!--
AFNIC <check> response extensions details
-->
<complexType name="resChkDataType">
  <choice>
    <element name="domain" type="frnic:resChkDomDataType"/>
  </choice>
</complexType>

<complexType name="resChkDomDataType">
  <sequence>
    <element name="cd" type="frnic:domCheckType" maxOccurs="unbounded"/>
  </sequence>
</complexType>

<complexType name="domCheckType">
  <sequence>
    <element name="name" type="frnic:domCheckNameType"/>
    <element name="rsvReason" type="eppcom:reasonType" minOccurs="0"/>
    <element name="fbdReason" type="eppcom:reasonType" minOccurs="0"/>
  </sequence>
</complexType>

<complexType name="domCheckNameType">
  <simpleContent>
    <extension base="eppcom:labelType">
      <attribute name="reserved" type="boolean" use="required"/>
      <attribute name="forbidden" type="boolean" use="required"/>
    </extension>
  </simpleContent>
</complexType>
...

Using the current check domain it is not possible to identify blocked/reserved domains unless the reason can be parsed, as most just return unavailable for blocked domains, and available for reserved domains.

It might also be extended with some kind of identifier for who the domain is reserved to (i.e. domain name for .uk domains, or VAT number for .rio domains).

Regards

Michael Hansen
Senior Developer
One.com A/S

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--_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0A6CD3BRN1WNEXMBX02vc_-- From nobody Sun Oct 4 08:51:38 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BC21B2A36 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2015 08:51:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.431 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.431 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6On1in2z6vXk for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2015 08:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out.west.pexch112.icann.org (pfe112-ca-2.pexch112.icann.org [64.78.40.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with 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Hosted x-originating-ip: [192.0.32.234] Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3526804284_23120467" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "eppext@ietf.org" Subject: [eppext] FW: New Version Notification for draft-lozano-rdap-gtld-whois-additional-events-00.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2015 15:51:36 -0000 --B_3526804284_23120467 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello, [Apologies if you received this email multiple times] I published draft-lozano-rdap-gtld-whois-additional-events-00.txt (see http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-lozano-rdap-gtld-whois-additional-events-00.tx t) that tries to solve open issues 2 and 5 identified in the gTLD RDAP profile (see http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.html). The gTLD RDAP profile describes which features, basic parameters and objects will need to be implemented by ICANN-contracted parties in order to support analogous functionality to gTLD Whois service. Your feedback is appreciated. Regards, Gustavo Lozano ICANN On 10/4/15, 11:20, "internet-drafts@ietf.org" wrote: > >A new version of I-D, >draft-lozano-rdap-gtld-whois-additional-events-00.txt >has been successfully submitted by Gustavo Lozano and posted to the >IETF repository. > >Name: draft-lozano-rdap-gtld-whois-additional-events >Revision: 00 >Title: Additional RDAP events to support the gTLD Whois output >Document date: 2015-10-04 >Group: Individual Submission >Pages: 4 >URL: >https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lozano-rdap-gtld-whois-addition >al-events-00.txt >Status: >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lozano-rdap-gtld-whois-additional-e >vents/ >Htmlized: >https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lozano-rdap-gtld-whois-additional-events >-00 > > >Abstract: > This document adds two event action types to the IANA RDAP JSON > Values registry, defined in [RFC7483], which are required to map two > fields from the gTLD Whois output into the RDAP response. > > > > > >Please note that it may take a couple of 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Thread-Topic: RDAP server of the registry Thread-Index: AQHQ/3rntucFay3MHE6AZbmw28rIeQ== Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:34:13 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.5.150821 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [192.0.32.234] Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3526886048_24897183" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "eppext@ietf.org" Subject: [eppext] RDAP server of the registry X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 14:34:18 -0000 --B_3526886048_24897183 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3526886048_24869870" --B_3526886048_24869870 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello, The first version of the ICANN gTLD profile was published days ago, (see: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.html), this document describes basic parameters and objects to be implemented by ICANN-contracted parties. The gTLD Whois output contains a field with the Whois server of the Registrar. In the case of thin registries, this allows the end user to get the registration data from the registrar, and in the case of thick registries, this allows the end user to query for extra Whois fields (e.g. registrar expiration date). The gTLD profile support the same functionality with the following mechanism: The RDAP domain lookup response MUST contain a links object as defined in RFC7483 section 4.2. The links object MUST contain the elements rel:related and href pointing to the Registrar's RDAP URL for the queried domain object. Questions for this group: * What do you think about this proposal? If you have different ideas on how to provide this functionality, please share it with the group. * What is your opinion about documenting this mechanism in an I-D? Regards, Gustavo Lozano ICANN --B_3526886048_24869870 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,=

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The first version of the= ICANN gTLD profile was published days ago, (see: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.html), this document describes basic parameters and objects to be implemented by ICANN-contracted parties.

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The gTLD Whois output co= ntains a field with the Whois server of the Registrar. In the case of thin registries, this allows the end user = to get the registration data from the registrar, and in the case of thick registries, this allows the end user to query for extra Whois fields (e.g. registrar expiration date).

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The gTLD profile support= the same functionality with the following mechanism:

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The RDAP domain lookup r= esponse MUST contain a links object as defined in RFC7483 section 4.2. The links object MUST contain the elemen= ts rel:related and href pointing to the Registrar's RDAP URL for the queried domain object.

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Questions for this group= :

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* What do you think abou= t this proposal? If you have different ideas on how to provide this functionality, please share it with = the group.

* What is your opinion a= bout documenting this mechanism in an I-D?



Regards,
Gustavo Lozano<= /div>
ICANN

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[72.13.63.41]) by smtp-relay.gmail.com with ESMTPS id q23sm2952984qkl.5.2015.10.05.10.11.23 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Oct 2015 10:11:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Relaying-Domain: verisign.com Received: from brn1wnexcas02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (brn1wnexcas02 [10.173.152.206]) by brn1lxmailout01.verisign.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t95HBNQP015143 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 5 Oct 2015 13:11:23 -0400 Received: from BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) by brn1wnexcas02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 13:11:22 -0400 From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: Gustavo Lozano , "gtld-tech@icann.org" Thread-Topic: RDAP server of the registry Thread-Index: AQHQ/3rntucFay3MHE6AZbmw28rIeZ5dIheg Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 17:11:22 +0000 Message-ID: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0A9B8A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0A9B8ABRN1WNEXMBX02vc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "eppext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [eppext] RDAP server of the registry X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 17:11:27 -0000 --_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0A9B8ABRN1WNEXMBX02vc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gustavo, I'd very much prefer to see the profile described in an I-D and de= veloped using the IETF's consensus process. I'm also willing to back up tha= t preference with writing help as needed. I'll have specific comments on th= e profile itself "soon". Scott From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gustavo Lozano Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 10:34 AM To: gtld-tech@icann.org Cc: eppext@ietf.org Subject: [eppext] RDAP server of the registry Hello, The first version of the ICANN gTLD profile was published days ago, (see: h= ttp://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.html), this do= cument describes basic parameters and objects to be implemented by ICANN-co= ntracted parties. The gTLD Whois output contains a field with the Whois server of the Registr= ar. In the case of thin registries, this allows the end user to get the reg= istration data from the registrar, and in the case of thick registries, thi= s allows the end user to query for extra Whois fields (e.g. registrar expir= ation date). The gTLD profile support the same functionality with the following mechanis= m: The RDAP domain lookup response MUST contain a links object as defined in R= FC7483 section 4.2. The links object MUST contain the elements rel:related = and href pointing to the Registrar's RDAP URL for the queried domain object= . Questions for this group: * What do you think about this proposal? If you have different ideas on how= to provide this functionality, please share it with the group. * What is your opinion about documenting this mechanism in an I-D? Regards, Gustavo Lozano ICANN --_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0A9B8ABRN1WNEXMBX02vc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Gustavo, I’d ver= y much prefer to see the profile described in an I-D and developed using th= e IETF’s consensus process. I’m also willing to back up that pr= eference with writing help as needed. I’ll have specific comments on the profile itself “soon”.

 

Scott=

 

From: EppExt [= mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gustavo Lozano
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 10:34 AM
To: gtld-tech@icann.org
Cc: eppext@ietf.org
Subject: [eppext] RDAP server of the registry

 

Hello,

 

The first version of the= ICANN gTLD profile was published days ago, (see: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.html)= , this document describes basic parameters and objects to be implemented by= ICANN-contracted parties.

 

The gTLD Whois output co= ntains a field with the Whois server of the Registrar. In the case of thin = registries, this allows the end user to get the registration data from the = registrar, and in the case of thick registries, this allows the end user to query for extra Whois fields (e.g.= registrar expiration date).<= /span>

 

The gTLD profile support= the same functionality with the following mechanism:

 

The RDAP domain lookup r= esponse MUST contain a links object as defined in RFC7483 section 4.2. The = links object MUST contain the elements rel:related and href pointing to the= Registrar's RDAP URL for the queried domain object.

 

Questions for this group= :

 

* What do you think abou= t this proposal? If you have different ideas on how to provide this functio= nality, please share it with the group.<= o:p>

* What is your opinion a= bout documenting this mechanism in an I-D?

 =

 =

Regards,

Gustavo Lozano

ICANN

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<88246F46-92E4-4848-BC5B-2275E942C4AF@ripe.net> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0ABD5A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: Kaveh Ranjbar , "gtld-tech@icann.org" , "eppext@ietf.org" , Gustavo Lozano Subject: Re: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 12:33:18 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_16981BA2-BB5F-47E4-BEBB-510AA9540215 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 07 Oct 2015, at 13:22, Hollenbeck, Scott = wrote: >=20 > Another possibility: a Best Current Practice (BCP) document. We=E2=80=99= ll need to think about what we think the =E2=80=9Cbest practices=E2=80=9D = should be, but that would be time well spent. Back to Gustavo=E2=80=99s = original question=E2=80=A6 >=20 > Yes, I=E2=80=99d like to see bits like this documented in an I-D that = describes things that need to be added to RDAP for use by gTLD = registries and registrars. However, I=E2=80=99m going to suggest that we = take an inventory of those omissions and try to organize them in some = way so that we don=E2=80=99t end up with multiple small documents that = might instead be represented as a smaller number of larger documents. = The profile document already has a good list of open issues; here=E2=80=99= s a thought on how to organize and address them. I think two documents might be good, one BCP for implementors (however, = remembering RFC 4641 for DNSSEC, it is way to early in the deployment = process to create a BCP) and an informational document for ICANNs = requirements for gTLDs. I don=E2=80=99t think that the IETF ever = distinguishes between gTLDs and other TLDs, since this is purely an = ICANN distinction.. > 1. Gustavo=E2=80=99s links suggestion below. >=20 > 2. Jim Gould=E2=80=99s status value mapping: >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gould-epp-rdap-status-mapping/ >=20 > 3. The =E2=80=9Cthe last update date and time of the database used to = generate the RDAP responses=E2=80=9D event. >=20 > 4. An event with the expiration date of the Registrar. >=20 > 5. If a Registry supports multiple host objects with the same name, = the Registry MUST support the capability to respond with a set of host = objects in response to a name server lookup. >=20 > I think these could be combined into one =E2=80=9CRDAP extensions for = gTLD Registries and Registrars=E2=80=9D document. Additional search = functionality, including Boolean search support, could be described in = either this document or another document. If it=E2=80=99s simple, = include it all in one document. If it isn=E2=80=99t, separate the topics = so that the simpler ones can move ahead more quickly. I would prefer if draft-gould-epp-rdap-status-mapping can go to = standards track as a separate document, as it is beneficial for all TLD = registries using EPP. > So I=E2=80=99m suggesting a new for two or three documents: one or two = that describe additional needed functionality and one that describes the = op Yes, agree. --Apple-Mail=_16981BA2-BB5F-47E4-BEBB-510AA9540215 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWFREHAAoJENv/4te3Ykny6uIP/1k7HBod62tE0ShGMwQjNeLU PUZywMmVHFEkSFkVQCDUYtDBJXh2LkgOHkSe3YuxiaJ4/SBgcOgo8buVlLp19gIz Pa+SVtqM+/DszO6GJeTbvfS3qmtcD7GH8HOShGezoD1iI8edrZx3omaURuPfK/jp 9k6UrJ+PkFvxLR5khcINhnpW1EG8URoXGivk5w7sZLI3K5BnJOZ6EX5240Y64nyI OLEFWzCNQu/dks/SzWVQBucrLOG6xJCfdwKLPDlH9FuztnsZkXZvpQrdzJvvAzWc U/6mKS9a2ziHloAHmDMgvZPWC8W9Fr5U1aGaqWhJ18c1+dmM/ZbirsxggllQU+0I /FOwXvKxq8luhGZlOLydd+kW8yG84kOPxEK7KC7z8tYUgG7cihaJFHNnJAZeLki/ b/ZM5ggeCthw7SQ4QIpkpDRdfVUG8ePzbIzQd4fK0ZEKo4hdD8Rbt/AjAOVOx/JB AoDcxh1gkQ8oxO9RhNL8AXB3qs7XO4v69wKGcN8GuRze8bSNDP/fdFjuqa5dlQrU SBw4PzXiasYhjsvvyLC8nrrkAeRPz7SGpztaHIMSi5gSfvdhAfMfNKDV1AF1bM5f 3zuH4AjepliUCvxANuJXVZSOobJInhc9O0dUvWOuZ2UyLivLaFQ17Rcqmxe66MX+ B5W+0OKhdfRycU+VYnUY =3gdb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_16981BA2-BB5F-47E4-BEBB-510AA9540215-- From nobody Wed Oct 7 07:00:51 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0E81A90A9 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:00:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, J_CHICKENPOX_37=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5yI_6459r2rP for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out.west.pexch112.icann.org (pfe112-ca-1.pexch112.icann.org [64.78.40.7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15D301A9094 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.21) by PMBX112-W1-CA-2.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1044.25; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:00:27 -0700 Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org ([64.78.40.21]) by PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG ([64.78.40.21]) with mapi id 15.00.1044.021; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:00:27 -0700 From: Gustavo Lozano To: =?Windows-1252?Q?Patrik_Wallstr=F6m?= , "Hollenbeck, Scott" Thread-Topic: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry Thread-Index: AQHRAQiF8QwlLt7wHEa5Mfuyers7Pw== Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 14:00:27 +0000 Message-ID: References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0A9B8A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <9FBF2B96-1FF2-4A5F-9697-388AEA71BF67@ripe.net> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0AB58B@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <88246F46-92E4-4848-BC5B-2275E942C4AF@ripe.net> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0ABD5A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.5.150821 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [192.0.32.234] Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3527056817_482256" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: Kaveh Ranjbar , "gtld-tech@icann.org" , "eppext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 14:00:31 -0000 --B_3527056817_482256 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable IMHO, this group (EPPEXT) could define a BCP for RDAP implementers (e.g. clients, DNRs, RIRs) of RDAP. This document could contain text like: * if you have information about an object, but you know about of another entity that may have extra information of the same object, you can use a links members with a rel:related to link to the RDAP server of the other entity =8A (thin DNRs->Registrars, RIRs->NIRs->ISPs, etc) * HTTPS SHOULD be used, and the RDAP service MUST use the best practices for secure use of TLS as described in RFC7525 or its successors. This group (EPPEXT) could define a BCP for DNRs (e.g. ccTLDs, gTLDs, etc). This document could contain text like: * if you support IDN registrations, you MUST .... Maybe the RIRs are interested in defining a BCP for RIRs? The gTLD profile is a document related to ICANN policies, and like the gTLD Whois advisory and the technical provisions of the registry agreement or RAA, should follow the ICANN process (e.g getting feedback from the ICANN constituencies, public comments, etc). At this moment, the gTLD profile contains technical implementation provisions, because there are no documents that define those technical provisions, but a future version of the gTLD profile could remove the implementation provisions by referencing to the appropiate RFC(s). The open issues of appendix A of the gTLD profile should be addressed by one or several I-Ds, but I don=B9t think they are only related to gTLDs. For example, I know of at least a ccTLD that implements 5. gTLD Registries want to have full requirements and an implementation plan for all RDSS (i.e. whois, rdap) related activities, therefore the schedule to have the gTLD profile ready looks tight. Regards, Gustavo On 10/7/15, 08:33, "EppExt on behalf of Patrik Wallstr=F6m" wrote: > >> On 07 Oct 2015, at 13:22, Hollenbeck, Scott >>wrote: >>=20 >> Another possibility: a Best Current Practice (BCP) document. We=B9ll need >>to think about what we think the =B3best practices=B2 should be, but that >>would be time well spent. Back to Gustavo=B9s original question=8A >>=20 >> Yes, I=B9d like to see bits like this documented in an I-D that describes >>things that need to be added to RDAP for use by gTLD registries and >>registrars. However, I=B9m going to suggest that we take an inventory of >>those omissions and try to organize them in some way so that we don=B9t >>end up with multiple small documents that might instead be represented >>as a smaller number of larger documents. The profile document already >>has a good list of open issues; here=B9s a thought on how to organize and >>address them. > >I think two documents might be good, one BCP for implementors (however, >remembering RFC 4641 for DNSSEC, it is way to early in the deployment >process to create a BCP) and an informational document for ICANNs >requirements for gTLDs. I don=B9t think that the IETF ever distinguishes >between gTLDs and other TLDs, since this is purely an ICANN distinction.. > >> 1. Gustavo=B9s links suggestion below. >>=20 >> 2. Jim Gould=B9s status value mapping: >>=20 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gould-epp-rdap-status-mapping/ >>=20 >> 3. The =B3the last update date and time of the database used to generate >>the RDAP responses=B2 event. >>=20 >> 4. An event with the expiration date of the Registrar. >>=20 >> 5. If a Registry supports multiple host objects with the same name, the >>Registry MUST support the capability to respond with a set of host >>objects in response to a name server lookup. >>=20 >> I think these could be combined into one =B3RDAP extensions for gTLD >>Registries and Registrars=B2 document. Additional search functionality, >>including Boolean search support, could be described in either this >>document or another document. If it=B9s simple, include it all in one >>document. 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ESMTP id A13FA1A90F4 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:08:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.311 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.311 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, J_CHICKENPOX_37=0.6, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u_0AI9DF4JhV for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B611A90F1 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.109] (modemcable093.65-160-184.mc.videotron.ca [184.160.65.93]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E0ED7403E5; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 10:08:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc Blanchet" To: "Gustavo Lozano" Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 10:08:21 -0400 Message-ID: <2FB29E84-2C2D-4A7E-A4F4-8298A1908EEC@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0A9B8A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <9FBF2B96-1FF2-4A5F-9697-388AEA71BF67@ripe.net> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0AB58B@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <88246F46-92E4-4848-BC5B-2275E942C4AF@ripe.net> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0ABD5A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.2r5141) Archived-At: Cc: Patrik =?utf-8?q?Wallstr=C3=B6m?= , "gtld-tech@icann.org" , "Hollenbeck, Scott" , "eppext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 14:08:24 -0000 On 7 Oct 2015, at 10:00, Gustavo Lozano wrote: > IMHO, this group (EPPEXT) could define a BCP for RDAP implementers > (e.g. > clients, DNRs, RIRs) of RDAP. if that happens, then we should definitively recharter/rename the working group along the lines discussed before: i.e. aka registration protocols working group. Marc. > This document could contain text like: > > * if you have information about an object, but you know about of > another > entity that may have extra information of the same object, you can use > a > links members with a rel:related to link to the RDAP server of the > other > entity Š (thin DNRs->Registrars, RIRs->NIRs->ISPs, etc) > > * HTTPS SHOULD be used, and the RDAP service MUST use the best > practices > for secure use of TLS as described in RFC7525 or its successors. > > This group (EPPEXT) could define a BCP for DNRs (e.g. ccTLDs, gTLDs, > etc). > This document could contain text like: > > * if you support IDN registrations, you MUST .... > > Maybe the RIRs are interested in defining a BCP for RIRs? > > The gTLD profile is a document related to ICANN policies, and like the > gTLD Whois advisory and the technical provisions of the registry > agreement > or RAA, should follow the ICANN process (e.g getting feedback from the > ICANN constituencies, public comments, etc). > > At this moment, the gTLD profile contains technical implementation > provisions, because there are no documents that define those technical > provisions, but a future version of the gTLD profile could remove the > implementation provisions by referencing to the appropiate RFC(s). > > The open issues of appendix A of the gTLD profile should be addressed > by > one or several I-Ds, but I don¹t think they are only related to > gTLDs. For > example, I know of at least a ccTLD that implements 5. > > gTLD Registries want to have full requirements and an implementation > plan > for all RDSS (i.e. whois, rdap) related activities, therefore the > schedule > to have the gTLD profile ready looks tight. > > > Regards, > Gustavo > > On 10/7/15, 08:33, "EppExt on behalf of Patrik Wallström" > wrote: > >> >>> On 07 Oct 2015, at 13:22, Hollenbeck, Scott >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Another possibility: a Best Current Practice (BCP) document. We¹ll >>> need >>> to think about what we think the ³best practices² should be, but >>> that >>> would be time well spent. Back to Gustavo¹s original questionŠ >>> >>> Yes, I¹d like to see bits like this documented in an I-D that >>> describes >>> things that need to be added to RDAP for use by gTLD registries and >>> registrars. However, I¹m going to suggest that we take an inventory >>> of >>> those omissions and try to organize them in some way so that we >>> don¹t >>> end up with multiple small documents that might instead be >>> represented >>> as a smaller number of larger documents. The profile document >>> already >>> has a good list of open issues; here¹s a thought on how to organize >>> and >>> address them. >> >> I think two documents might be good, one BCP for implementors >> (however, >> remembering RFC 4641 for DNSSEC, it is way to early in the deployment >> process to create a BCP) and an informational document for ICANNs >> requirements for gTLDs. I don¹t think that the IETF ever >> distinguishes >> between gTLDs and other TLDs, since this is purely an ICANN >> distinction.. >> >>> 1. Gustavo¹s links suggestion below. >>> >>> 2. Jim Gould¹s status value mapping: >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gould-epp-rdap-status-mapping/ >>> >>> 3. The ³the last update date and time of the database used to >>> generate >>> the RDAP responses² event. >>> >>> 4. An event with the expiration date of the Registrar. >>> >>> 5. If a Registry supports multiple host objects with the same name, >>> the >>> Registry MUST support the capability to respond with a set of host >>> objects in response to a name server lookup. >>> >>> I think these could be combined into one ³RDAP extensions for gTLD >>> Registries and Registrars² document. Additional search >>> functionality, >>> including Boolean search support, could be described in either this >>> document or another document. If it¹s simple, include it all in one >>> document. If it isn¹t, separate the topics so that the simpler ones >>> can >>> move ahead more quickly. >> >> I would prefer if draft-gould-epp-rdap-status-mapping can go to >> standards >> track as a separate document, as it is beneficial for all TLD >> registries >> using EPP. >> >>> So I¹m suggesting a new for two or three documents: one or two that >>> describe additional needed functionality and one that describes the >>> op >> >> Yes, agree. >> From nobody Wed Oct 7 07:41:45 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6184C1A065C for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:41:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jBr41CelnSKt for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-f98.google.com (mail-qg0-f98.google.com [209.85.192.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F4831A03F9 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qged68 with SMTP id d68so1002338qge.2 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 07:41:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:thread-topic:thread-index :date:message-id:references:in-reply-to:accept-language :content-language:content-type:mime-version; bh=7rITNUelYT90GOD1Vl56aXQkTjgxAsqOX5Fs/gxW+Hw=; b=iQvHstIFJ78xRi5EUfJhEyfnAxEHBG94CPA+tZQ/vTxIuN3S+yk4/mzkeCKJ9wgOH3 LtFQHtXvKgNH4xdsyiTZ7tzprOMcLgu9MsfNMVoJfpCJWsvXA7ksrpDSinw3v/4W72q/ Socb752hkQsv6YyCu6BCS+q/I7obXQiAWlr6cQ6gQ4+LtW9e+EKEiWGyy87jJv1zLK9x 4EDqRrCCTKqEE4wi+Z58Ieca+JEi3Vyt+vQBI3Duvq2dIwmLtgItZgTpxGRvSNpCzj00 yTZjjcPOz6CDcqtS4Lr8tKjeuloox8gvywGA0+kR6BAMlN0VzJIntwgxv9vkBsV+Kck3 1Faw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkMD8K9Heh68Z06QqeLAkc0UOhAhKQ/HAbPl2jewTOYitBT3jbXvIdqLuh7lhP4KW3nydc4sRB3Te1Zg0nrYW3/nteW+g== X-Received: by 10.140.101.226 with SMTP id u89mr1930923qge.90.1444228888486; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 07:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brn1lxmailout01.verisign.com (brn1lxmailout01.verisign.com. [72.13.63.41]) by smtp-relay.gmail.com with ESMTPS id f131sm4108541qka.2.2015.10.07.07.41.28 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Oct 2015 07:41:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Relaying-Domain: verisign.com Received: from brn1wnexcas02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (brn1wnexcas02 [10.173.152.206]) by brn1lxmailout01.verisign.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t97EfR5d016436 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Wed, 7 Oct 2015 10:41:27 -0400 Received: from BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) by brn1wnexcas02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 10:41:27 -0400 From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: Gustavo Lozano , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Patrik_Wallstr=F6m?= Thread-Topic: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry Thread-Index: AQHQ/3rntucFay3MHE6AZbmw28rIeZ5dIheggAGh9YCAAAlGYIAAen8AgACX8ZCAAFz6AIAAGGWA///F5VA= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 14:41:26 +0000 Message-ID: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0AC026@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0A9B8A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <9FBF2B96-1FF2-4A5F-9697-388AEA71BF67@ripe.net> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0AB58B@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <88246F46-92E4-4848-BC5B-2275E942C4AF@ripe.net> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0ABD5A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B4_01D100EC.B71F51E0"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: Kaveh Ranjbar , "gtld-tech@icann.org" , "eppext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 14:41:31 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01D100EC.B71F51E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Gustavo Lozano [mailto:gustavo.lozano@icann.org] > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:00 AM > To: Patrik Wallstr=F6m; Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: Kaveh Ranjbar; gtld-tech@icann.org; eppext@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry [snip] > gTLD Registries want to have full requirements and an implementation > plan > for all RDSS (i.e. whois, rdap) related activities, therefore the > schedule > to have the gTLD profile ready looks tight. Gustavo, what's driving that schedule? How does it fit with the RDDS = policy development processes that are either under way or being considered? The = EWG I was part of made a number of recommendations that depend on RDAP. = Where do those recommendations come into play? This gTLD registry operator wants to be sure that we do this once, we do = it so that we don't have to undo things in the future, and we make implementation decisions based on consensus policies. If that takes = time, so be it. 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<831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0A9B8A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <9FBF2B96-1FF2-4A5F-9697-388AEA71BF67@ripe.net> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0AB58B@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <88246F46-92E4-4848-BC5B-2275E942C4AF@ripe.net> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0ABD5A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0AC026@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0AC026@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.5.150821 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [192.0.32.234] Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="B_3527066279_1021800" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: Kaveh Ranjbar , "gtld-tech@icann.org" , "eppext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 16:38:14 -0000 --B_3527066279_1021800 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="B_3527066279_990489" --B_3527066279_990489 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 10/7/15, 10:41, "Hollenbeck, Scott" wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gustavo Lozano [mailto:gustavo.lozano@icann.org] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:00 AM >> To: Patrik Wallstr=F6m; Hollenbeck, Scott >> Cc: Kaveh Ranjbar; gtld-tech@icann.org; eppext@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry > >[snip] > >> gTLD Registries want to have full requirements and an implementation >> plan >> for all RDSS (i.e. whois, rdap) related activities, therefore the >> schedule >> to have the gTLD profile ready looks tight. > >Gustavo, what's driving that schedule? How does it fit with the RDDS >policy >development processes that are either under way or being considered? The >EWG >I was part of made a number of recommendations that depend on RDAP. Where >do >those recommendations come into play? The schedule for implementing the thick Whois policy that is under way. > >This gTLD registry operator wants to be sure that we do this once, we do >it >so that we don't have to undo things in the future, and we make >implementation decisions based on consensus policies. If that takes time, >so >be it. I think that we share the same objective. The gTLD profile was sent to the RySG, RrSG, ICANN gtld-tech mailing list, and this group in order to obtain feedback. The RDAP profile will be published once that the ICANN-contracted parties agree that it=B9s ready. This is the same the process that we used with the Whois clarification advisory. The schedule that Francisco described in his email (i.e. http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.html) appears to work from our perspective, but based on the feedback, it may not work. A great percentage of the provisions in the gTLD profile are related to ICANN policy, and some are just a translation of the requirements in the Registry Agreement and the Whois advisory (I.e. https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/registry-agreement-raa-rdds-2015-04-2 7-en) to RDAP. There are provisions that could be part of a BCP, but I don't think that there is an issue. We can work in the gTLD profile and BCP(s) in parallel. Once the BCP(s) are ready, the gTLD profile is modified or a new version is released. I think that is really important to consider all users of RDAP (I.e. ccTLDs, gTLDs, RIRs) if the WG decides to work on BCP(s). 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We also have the same requirement. Moreover, some use= rs want to know whether a domain is allocated/blocked/reserved in differen= t language scripts, such as Chinese, Japanese and Korean. Because of diffe= rent label generation rules, even the same domain may have different statu= s. I'd like to help write an initial draft to specify this extension.=0A

Regards,
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Linlin Zhou<= /div>
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= <= div>Date: 2015-10-02 18:58
Subje= ct: Re: [eppext] Suggestion for check domain extension
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Have you considered writing a draft describing such an extension?=

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It would be nice if the AFNIC extension= was registered:

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http://www.iana.= org/assignments/epp-extensions/epp-extensions.xhtml#epp-extensions-1<= /o:p>

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Scott

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From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org]=0AOn Behalf Of M= ichael Hansen
=0ASent: Friday, October 02, 2015 5:11 AM
=0ATo: eppext@ietf.org
=0ASubject: [eppext] Suggestion for che= ck domain extension

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As a registrar I would lik= e to see a standard way in check domain to get information about if a doma= in is blocked or reserved, like in the AFNIC extension (=0Ahttp://www.afnic.fr/xml/epp/frnic-1.3):
=0A
=0A...=0A<!--
=0AAFNIC <check> response extensions details
=0A-= ->
=0A<complexType name=3D"resChkDataType">
=0A  <c= hoice>
=0A    <element name=3D"domain" type=3D"frn= ic:resChkDomDataType"/>
=0A  </choice>
=0A</complex= Type>
=0A
=0A<complexType name=3D"resChkDomDataType">
= =0A  <sequence>
=0A    <element name=3D"cd= " type=3D"frnic:domCheckType" maxOccurs=3D"unbounded"/>
=0A  &l= t;/sequence>
=0A</complexType>
=0A
=0A<complexType na= me=3D"domCheckType">
=0A  <sequence>
=0A  &n= bsp; <element name=3D"name" type=3D"frnic:domCheckNameType"/>
=0A=     <element name=3D"rsvReason" type=3D"eppcom:reasonTyp= e" minOccurs=3D"0"/>
=0A    <element name=3D"fbdRe= ason" type=3D"eppcom:reasonType" minOccurs=3D"0"/>
=0A  </se= quence>
=0A</complexType>
=0A
=0A<complexType name=3D= "domCheckNameType">
=0A  <simpleContent>
=0A &nbs= p;  <extension base=3D"eppcom:labelType">
=0A  &nb= sp;   <attribute name=3D"reserved" type=3D"boolean" use=3D"re= quired"/>
=0A      <attribute name=3D"fo= rbidden" type=3D"boolean" use=3D"required"/>
=0A    &= lt;/extension>
=0A  </simpleContent>
=0A</complexTy= pe>
=0A...
=0A
=0AUsing the current check domain it is not pos= sible to identify blocked/reserved domains unless the reason can be parsed= , as most just return unavailable for blocked domains, and available for r= eserved domains.
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=0AIt might also be extended with some kind of = identifier for who the domain is reserved to (i.e. domain name for .uk dom= ains, or VAT number for .rio domains).
=0A
=0ARegards
=0A
=0AM= ichael Hansen
=0ASenior Developer
=0AOne.com A/S

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[72.13.63.42]) by smtp-relay.gmail.com with ESMTPS id s27sm259908qkl.12.2015.10.08.06.30.05 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 08 Oct 2015 06:30:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Relaying-Domain: verisign.com Received: from brn1wnexcas01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (brn1wnexcas01 [10.173.152.205]) by brn1lxmailout02.verisign.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t98DU4b6020070 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Thu, 8 Oct 2015 09:30:05 -0400 Received: from BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) by brn1wnexcas01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Thu, 8 Oct 2015 09:30:04 -0400 From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: Greg Aaron , "'Gustavo Lozano'" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?=27Patrik_Wallstr=F6m=27?= Thread-Topic: [gtld-tech] [eppext] RDAP server of the registry Thread-Index: AdEBzXAixTID8a2GTdq8YXRD5ouAwA== Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 13:30:04 +0000 Message-ID: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0ACE1C@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "gtld-tech@icann.org" , "eppext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2015 13:30:08 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Aaron [mailto:greg@illumintel.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 11:27 AM > To: 'Gustavo Lozano'; 'Patrik Wallstr=F6m'; Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: gtld-tech@icann.org; eppext@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [gtld-tech] [eppext] RDAP server of the registry >=20 > Gustavo correctly notes some important things --ICANN has contractual > requirements that tell registries and registrars what data they MUST > deliver > (currently via the WHOIS protocol), and ICANN is now working on how > that > data should be delivered via RDAP. Whatever document is created is > going > to be binding on registries and registrars. As per the 2013 RAA, once > RDAP > spec is mature "ICANN reserves the right to specify alternative formats > and > protocols, and upon such specification, the Registrar will implement > such > alternative specification as soon as reasonably practicable." The new > gTLD > registry agreements contain similar. >=20 > RDAP's supposedly been designed to deliver what ICANN might require of > its > registrars and registries. If so, we are embarking on an exercise in > implementation in the gTLD world, with ICANN as the policy authority. > BCPs > for ccTLDs etc. might be nice, but seem like a distraction from the > immediate task at hand. Thinking about the best way to implement RDAP is no distraction. It will he= lp reduce implementation costs *and* ensure that we deliver the best techni= cal solutions in the long run. Remember, the agreements you mentioned above= were written before the RDAP specifications were completed. There are feat= ures in RDAP that aren't mentioned in the agreements or the proposed profil= e. There are ongoing policy efforts in ICANN that *will* have an impact on = RDAP implementers. I'm suggesting that we need to take a big picture approa= ch before we're told to implement current WHOIS operational requirements wi= th RDAP as a transport. That just makes RDAP part of the ongoing problems. Here's one example: data privacy. WHOIS can't do it, but RDAP can, and it's= not part of the profile. Shouldn't it be part of the discussion? Why shoul= dn't we think about it before we perpetuate a WHOIS issue that becomes an R= DAP issue? > The implementation requirements should certainly be well-thought-out, > should > receive input (and hopefully collegial buy-in) from the parties who > will > have to make it work, and should be clearly documented. As Gustavo > says, > ICANN has process to deliver that. Requiring "community consensus" > about > the contents, as Scott suggested, is a different and higher standard > from > what has been agreed to in the ICANN contracts. I'm not a lawyer, so contracts aren't my area of expertise. I do, however, = know something about software engineering and the costs associated with sof= tware development. Knowing that the new gTLD RA says this: "Registry Operator shall implement a new standard supporting access to doma= in name registration data ... if ... its implementation is commercially rea= sonable in the context of the overall operation of the registry." How does one determine that which is "commercially reasonable"? We know tha= t there are policy development efforts happening in parallel that will prod= uce additional implementation requirements. Requirements that conflict with= the profile (changes in data privacy requirements, for example) will incre= ase implementation costs, and "commercially reasonable" becomes a point of = contention. The process I've described should help mitigate that risk. It's= not a higher standard, it's a method that can be used to help confirm that= the "commercially reasonable" requirement has been met. 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Were you using that meaning in your post? Yes, in both the ICANN and IETF contexts. There's work to be done in both p= laces. 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I agree with your suggestions on = writing IETF documents of RDAP additional functionality. And a BCP documen= t seems also necessary for registries to implement RDAP servers.

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2. BCP do= cument
As for the BCP document, we are interested in contributin= g text and some implementation experience. Since we have already implement= ed almost all of the necessary and additional RDAP functionality and =
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Another possibility: a Best Current Practice (BCP) document= . We=E2=80=99ll need to think about what we think the =E2=80=9Cbest practi= ces=E2=80=9D should be, but that would be time well spent. Back=0A to Gust= avo=E2=80=99s original question=E2=80=A6

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Yes, I=E2=80=99d li= ke to see bits like this documented in an I-D that describes things that n= eed to be added to RDAP for use by gTLD registries and registrars. However= , I=E2=80=99m going to=0A suggest that we take an inventory of those omiss= ions and try to organize them in some way so that we don=E2=80=99t end up = with multiple small documents that might instead be represented as a small= er number of larger documents. The profile document already has a good=0A = list of open issues; here=E2=80=99s a thought on how to organize and addre= ss them.

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I think these could be combined into one =E2=80=9CRDAP extensions for gTL= D Registries and Registrars=E2=80=9D document. Additional search functiona= lity, including Boolean search support, could=0A be described in either th= is document or another document. If it=E2=80=99s simple, include it all in= one document. If it isn=E2=80=99t, separate the topics so that the simple= r ones can move ahead more quickly.

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So I=E2=80=99m suggesting a= new for two or three documents: one or two that describe additional neede= d functionality and one that describes the operational profile. Completion= of the=0A operational profile will likely have a dependency on policy dev= elopment work in ICANN circles.

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From: Kaveh Ranjbar [mailto:kranjbar@ripe.net]= =0A
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On 06 Oct 2015, at 14:53, Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com> wrote:

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It= =E2=80=99s more than just policy, Kaveh =E2=80=93 it=E2=80=99s implementat= ion requirements that I=E2=80=99m suggesting should be developed with comm= unity consensus. Internet-Drafts can be (and have been)=0A written to docu= ment implementations of IETF standards. Here=E2=80=99s one example that be= came an Informational RFC:

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An Informational-in= tended document that describes protocol option settings could be developed= for RDAP in a very similar way. What=E2=80=99s in the document now is inc= omplete, but it=0A would be a very good start, and as I said =E2=80=93 I= =E2=80=99m willing to help write.

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With all due respe= ct I disagree. The intent of the document is to outline ICANN=E2=80=99s = =E2=80=9Cpolicy=E2=80=9D towards it=E2=80=99s Registries and Registrars. I= t basically points out the RFC=E2=80=99s they have to comply with and outl= ines a few issues and provisions, mostly=0A ICANN specific requirements (f= or example details of address information) which IMHO is out of scope of a= n I-D. 

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Gus= tavo, I=E2=80=99d very much prefer to see the profile described in an I-D = and developed using the IETF=E2=80=99s consensus process. I=E2=80=99m also= willing to back up that preference with writing=0A help as needed. I=E2= =80=99ll have specific comments on the profile itself =E2=80=9Csoon=E2=80= =9D.

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The gTLD Who= is output contains a field with the Whois server of the Registrar. In the = case of thin registries, this allows the end user to get the registration = data from the registrar, and=0A in the case of thick registries, this allo= ws the end user to query for extra Whois fields (e.g. registrar expiration= date).

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=0A=0A= =0A=0A ------=_001_NextPart483344256133_=------ From nobody Fri Oct 9 01:48:39 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13551A899B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 01:48:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.084 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.084 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DASQP5BAOQB0 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 01:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arn2-kamx.sidn.nl (kamx.sidn.nl [IPv6:2a00:d78:0:147:94:198:152:69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F6861A89A1 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 01:48:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; d=sidn.nl; s=sidn-nl; c=relaxed/relaxed; h=from:to:cc:subject:thread-topic:thread-index:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to:accept-language:content-language:x-ms-has-attach:x-ms-tnef-correlator:x-originating-ip:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=B8oEeRmI3rVSe9qkIgpzBXoUNjGVoej5UMwzh0bFZI4=; b=LZJ7yFbyxXuZnA26qVGQcGj10NZ3pMfh74jFcTgXuuwoskF/kyuHgIPxTRhYxbHKf3Ck+j1J6hGJfygUeOq8bWC1qmzeZ3o55OVdgHoCl+P7TuQIh+FHxg/fnAbSYM4BhU6Criw6IX5JYu6bVnCwqbrnEXfKa02LZNKXvBCgRUisQyeu0MIZHgkk5pDm5adWTQ65x4jsoy8gVADGP2bMM/eqEzCrHV74bNcnZYpcj/A44Z1K73zUdHlMpJ0jiHzJot/n6ZHozB13M1Lb0E2PqZI9+4SGsbzwOikm6RWHgm7wzyrw46+SQ0KIdAr9km8yfvzu5wTWLkStah9JdgK5fw== Received: from ka-mbx01.SIDN.local ([192.168.2.177]) by arn2-kamx.sidn.nl with ESMTP id t998m9TU016836-t998m9TW016836 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=CAFAIL); Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:48:09 +0200 Received: from KAHUBCASN02.SIDN.local (192.168.2.74) by ka-mbx01.SIDN.local (192.168.2.177) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1076.9; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:48:11 +0200 Received: from KAMBX1.SIDN.local ([fe80::501d:affc:30a9:4edf]) by kahubcasn02 ([192.168.2.74]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:48:10 +0200 From: Marc Groeneweg To: "eppext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry Thread-Index: AdEBzXAiq/T/KKd3IEKmeNlNL/dP/QAoPfdA Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 08:48:11 +0000 Message-ID: <5BFD186DCB661E4D951017B0818285AEDE7CAF58@kambx1.SIDN.local> References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0ACE1C@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0ACE1C@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.2.171] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "gtld-tech@icann.org" Subject: Re: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 08:48:38 -0000 Scott, etal. >Here's one example: data privacy. WHOIS can't do it, but RDAP can, and it'= s not part of the profile.=20 >Shouldn't it be part of the discussion? Why shouldn't we think about it be= fore we perpetuate a=20 >WHOIS issue that becomes an RDAP issue? Agreed. And data privacy has given us sufficient discussion on the provreg = mailinglist in the past :-) >"Registry Operator shall implement a new standard supporting access to dom= ain name registration data > ... if ... its implementation is commercially reasonable in the context o= f the overall operation of the registry." > >How does one determine that which is "commercially reasonable"? We know th= at there are policy=20 >development efforts happening in parallel that will produce additional imp= lementation requirements. > Requirements that conflict with the profile (changes in data privacy requ= irements, for example) will increase > implementation costs, and "commercially reasonable" becomes a point of co= ntention. The process I've=20 >described should help mitigate that risk. It's not a higher standard, it's= a method that can be used to help=20 >confirm that the "commercially reasonable" requirement has been met. I have found this a brilliant escape in not doing RDAP for gTLD's. All inve= stments with respect to new gTLD's can be considered not "commercially reasonable". Unless a strong business c= ase evolves surrounding the B2B model using RDAP as a stepping stone in new domain registrations. But a= las, I am only technical inclined, not commercially. Reagrds, Marc=20 From nobody Fri Oct 9 04:32:50 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F001ACD0E for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2015 07:05:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.309 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.309 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_37=0.6, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xHHG76fZ93t6 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2015 07:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mahimahi.ripe.net (mahimahi.ripe.net [IPv6:2001:67c:2e8:11::c100:1372]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 650581ACD14 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2015 07:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nene.ripe.net ([193.0.23.10]) by mahimahi.ripe.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjSrU-0007W6-9b; Tue, 06 Oct 2015 16:05:01 +0200 Received: from sslvpn.ipv6.ripe.net ([2001:67c:2e8:9::c100:14e6] helo=[IPv6:2001:67c:2e8:5009::1c3]) by nene.ripe.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZjSrT-0002ja-NZ; Tue, 06 Oct 2015 16:05:00 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D836E2F5-B908-49B6-A584-5048F58367E2"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5 From: Kaveh Ranjbar In-Reply-To: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0A9B8A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 10:04:55 -0400 Message-Id: <9FBF2B96-1FF2-4A5F-9697-388AEA71BF67@ripe.net> References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0A9B8A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-ACL-Warn: Delaying message X-RIPE-Spam-Level: -- X-RIPE-Spam-Report: Spam Total Points: -2.9 points pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------ -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-RIPE-Signature: 98103304a313f58a8eac8a386a982e5b5f05c2114a66e4c938f5bd914a6943e0 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 04:32:48 -0700 Cc: "gtld-tech@icann.org" , "eppext@ietf.org" , Gustavo Lozano Subject: Re: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2015 14:05:11 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D836E2F5-B908-49B6-A584-5048F58367E2 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_46634C82-EB1C-478E-ACFF-640087E60523" --Apple-Mail=_46634C82-EB1C-478E-ACFF-640087E60523 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Scott, With all due respect I disagree. The intent of the document is to = outline ICANN=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Cpolicy=E2=80=9D towards it=E2=80=99s = Registries and Registrars. It basically points out the RFC=E2=80=99s = they have to comply with and outlines a few issues and provisions, = mostly ICANN specific requirements (for example details of address = information) which IMHO is out of scope of an I-D. On the other hand, there are few issues pointed out in the document = (specially the ones from Appendix A) which are good candidates for IETF = discussions and possibly updating (or writing new) RFCs. All the best, Kaveh. > On 05 Oct 2015, at 13:11, Hollenbeck, Scott = wrote: >=20 > Gustavo, I=E2=80=99d very much prefer to see the profile described in = an I-D and developed using the IETF=E2=80=99s consensus process. I=E2=80=99= m also willing to back up that preference with writing help as needed. = I=E2=80=99ll have specific comments on the profile itself =E2=80=9Csoon=E2= =80=9D. >=20 > Scott >=20 > From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gustavo = Lozano > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 10:34 AM > To: gtld-tech@icann.org > Cc: eppext@ietf.org > Subject: [eppext] RDAP server of the registry >=20 > Hello, >=20 > The first version of the ICANN gTLD profile was published days ago, = (see:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.html = ), = this document describes basic parameters and objects to be implemented = by ICANN-contracted parties. >=20 > The gTLD Whois output contains a field with the Whois server of the = Registrar. In the case of thin registries, this allows the end user to = get the registration data from the registrar, and in the case of thick = registries, this allows the end user to query for extra Whois fields = (e.g. registrar expiration date). >=20 > The gTLD profile support the same functionality with the following = mechanism: >=20 > The RDAP domain lookup response MUST contain a links object as defined = in RFC7483 section 4.2. The links object MUST contain the elements = rel:related and href pointing to the Registrar's RDAP URL for the = queried domain object. >=20 > Questions for this group: >=20 > * What do you think about this proposal? If you have different ideas = on how to provide this functionality, please share it with the group. > * What is your opinion about documenting this mechanism in an I-D? >=20 >=20 > Regards, > Gustavo Lozano > ICANN --Apple-Mail=_46634C82-EB1C-478E-ACFF-640087E60523 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi Scott,

With all due respect I disagree. The intent of the document = is to outline ICANN=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Cpolicy=E2=80=9D towards it=E2=80=99= s Registries and Registrars. It basically points out the RFC=E2=80=99s = they have to comply with and outlines a few issues and provisions, = mostly ICANN specific requirements (for example details of address = information) which IMHO is out of scope of an I-D. 

On the other hand, there = are few issues pointed out in the document (specially the ones from = Appendix A) which are good candidates for IETF discussions and possibly = updating (or writing new) RFCs.

All the best,
Kaveh.

On 05 Oct 2015, at 13:11, = Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com> wrote:

Gustavo, I=E2=80=99d very = much prefer to see the profile described in an I-D and developed using = the IETF=E2=80=99s consensus process. I=E2=80=99m also willing to back = up that preference with writing help as needed. I=E2=80=99ll have = specific comments on the profile itself =E2=80=9Csoon=E2=80=9D.
 
Scott
 
From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Gustavo = Lozano
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 = 10:34 AM
To: gtld-tech@icann.org
Cc: eppext@ietf.org
Subject: [eppext] RDAP server of the = registry
 
Hello,
 
The first version of the ICANN gTLD profile was = published days ago, (see:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.h= tml), this document describes basic parameters and objects to be = implemented by ICANN-contracted parties.
 
The gTLD Whois output contains a = field with the Whois server of the Registrar. In the case of thin = registries, this allows the end user to get the registration data from = the registrar, and in the case of thick registries, this allows the end = user to query for extra Whois fields (e.g. registrar expiration = date).
 
The gTLD profile support the same functionality = with the following mechanism:
 
The RDAP domain lookup response MUST contain a = links object as defined in RFC7483 section 4.2. The links object MUST = contain the elements rel:related and href pointing to the Registrar's = RDAP URL for the queried domain object.
 
Questions for this = group:
 
* What do you think about this proposal? If you = have different ideas on how to provide this functionality, please share = it with the group.
* What is your opinion about documenting this = mechanism in an I-D?
 
 
Regards,
Gustavo Lozano
ICANN
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All the best, Kaveh. > On 06 Oct 2015, at 14:53, Hollenbeck, Scott = wrote: >=20 > It=E2=80=99s more than just policy, Kaveh =E2=80=93 it=E2=80=99s = implementation requirements that I=E2=80=99m suggesting should be = developed with community consensus. Internet-Drafts can be (and have = been) written to document implementations of IETF standards. Here=E2=80=99= s one example that became an Informational RFC: >=20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc3054/ = >=20 > An Informational-intended document that describes protocol option = settings could be developed for RDAP in a very similar way. What=E2=80=99s= in the document now is incomplete, but it would be a very good start, = and as I said =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99m willing to help write. >=20 > Scott >=20 > From: Kaveh Ranjbar [mailto:kranjbar@ripe.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 10:05 AM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: Gustavo Lozano; gtld-tech@icann.org; eppext@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry >=20 > Hi Scott, >=20 > With all due respect I disagree. The intent of the document is to = outline ICANN=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Cpolicy=E2=80=9D towards it=E2=80=99s = Registries and Registrars. It basically points out the RFC=E2=80=99s = they have to comply with and outlines a few issues and provisions, = mostly ICANN specific requirements (for example details of address = information) which IMHO is out of scope of an I-D. >=20 > On the other hand, there are few issues pointed out in the document = (specially the ones from Appendix A) which are good candidates for IETF = discussions and possibly updating (or writing new) RFCs. >=20 > All the best, > Kaveh. >=20 > On 05 Oct 2015, at 13:11, Hollenbeck, Scott > wrote: >=20 > Gustavo, I=E2=80=99d very much prefer to see the profile described in = an I-D and developed using the IETF=E2=80=99s consensus process. I=E2=80=99= m also willing to back up that preference with writing help as needed. = I=E2=80=99ll have specific comments on the profile itself =E2=80=9Csoon=E2= =80=9D. >=20 > Scott >=20 > From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org = ] On Behalf Of Gustavo Lozano > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 10:34 AM > To: gtld-tech@icann.org > Cc: eppext@ietf.org > Subject: [eppext] RDAP server of the registry >=20 > Hello, >=20 > The first version of the ICANN gTLD profile was published days ago, = (see:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.html = ), = this document describes basic parameters and objects to be implemented = by ICANN-contracted parties. >=20 > The gTLD Whois output contains a field with the Whois server of the = Registrar. In the case of thin registries, this allows the end user to = get the registration data from the registrar, and in the case of thick = registries, this allows the end user to query for extra Whois fields = (e.g. registrar expiration date). >=20 > The gTLD profile support the same functionality with the following = mechanism: >=20 > The RDAP domain lookup response MUST contain a links object as defined = in RFC7483 section 4.2. The links object MUST contain the elements = rel:related and href pointing to the Registrar's RDAP URL for the = queried domain object. >=20 > Questions for this group: >=20 > * What do you think about this proposal? If you have different ideas = on how to provide this functionality, please share it with the group. > * What is your opinion about documenting this mechanism in an I-D? >=20 >=20 > Regards, > Gustavo Lozano > ICANN >=20 --Apple-Mail=_137E1B4C-8F22-4654-A70C-37A7F6F20D22 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Thank you Scott,

I am sold, so +1 on Scott=E2=80=99s suggestion.

All the best,
Kaveh.

On 06 Oct 2015, at 14:53, = Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com> wrote:

It=E2=80=99s more than just policy, Kaveh =E2=80=93 = it=E2=80=99s implementation requirements that I=E2=80=99m suggesting = should be developed with community consensus. Internet-Drafts can be = (and have been) written to document implementations of IETF standards. Here=E2=80=99s = one example that became an Informational RFC:

 

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc3054/

 

An Informational-intended document that describes = protocol option settings could be developed for RDAP in a very similar = way. What=E2=80=99s in the document now is incomplete, but it would be a very good start, and as I said =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99m willing = to help write.

 

Scott

 

From: Kaveh Ranjbar [mailto:kranjbar@ripe.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 10:05 AM
To: Hollenbeck, Scott
Cc: Gustavo Lozano; gtld-tech@icann.org; = eppext@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the = registry

 

Hi Scott,

 

With all due respect I disagree. = The intent of the document is to outline ICANN=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Cpolicy=E2= =80=9D towards it=E2=80=99s Registries and Registrars. It basically = points out the RFC=E2=80=99s they have to comply with and outlines a few = issues and provisions, mostly ICANN specific requirements (for example details of address = information) which IMHO is out of scope of an I-D. 

 

On the other hand, there are few = issues pointed out in the document (specially the ones from Appendix A) = which are good candidates for IETF discussions and possibly updating (or = writing new) RFCs.

 

All the best,

Kaveh.

 

On 05 Oct 2015, at 13:11, = Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com> wrote:

 

Gustavo, I=E2=80=99d very much prefer to see the profile = described in an I-D and developed using the IETF=E2=80=99s consensus = process. I=E2=80=99m also willing to back up that preference with = writing help as needed. I=E2=80=99ll have specific comments on the profile = itself =E2=80=9Csoon=E2=80=9D.

 

Scott

 

From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Gustavo = Lozano
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 = 10:34 AM
To: gtld-tech@icann.org Cc: eppext@ietf.org
Subject: [eppext] RDAP server of the = registry

 

Hello,

 

The first version of the ICANN gTLD profile was published = days ago, (see:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.h= tml), this document describes basic parameters and objects to be implemented = by ICANN-contracted parties.

 

The gTLD Whois output contains a field with the Whois server = of the Registrar. In the case of thin registries, this allows the end = user to get the registration data from the registrar, and in the case of thick registries, this allows the end user to query for = extra Whois fields (e.g. registrar expiration date).

 

The gTLD profile support the same functionality with the = following mechanism:

 

The RDAP domain lookup response MUST contain a links object = as defined in RFC7483 section 4.2. The links object MUST contain the = elements rel:related and href pointing to the Registrar's RDAP URL for the queried domain object.

 

Questions for this group:

 

* What do you think about this proposal? If you have = different ideas on how to provide this functionality, please share it = with the group.

* What is your opinion about documenting this mechanism in an = I-D?

 

 

Regards,

Gustavo Lozano

ICANN

 


= --Apple-Mail=_137E1B4C-8F22-4654-A70C-37A7F6F20D22-- --Apple-Mail=_1F1A3677-D085-4C35-B6EE-960368ED35F2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJWFEORAAoJED2u7S7KuESQqoUH/igSh+7Budiw8OKLqWf2Cv6c IkvetzF6zYXRpz72Rzgn0qmVoS+RPHa0dX/zajPkgR0dPZXXa7XmENQLD1A4P8Up i0bPnAztxRqBztfuRD+0GlZsBdHT1mbe8JMvg8nuLWpjq+lEWRIjTF4agnvvhbB7 EOJdnXc/eXhZzI5FOdLZGvl2OoLjRRCrLALlMFjAMMz9HckInKMrRlm3UHTH8MXB Zi8x4Tg1yPwVs1CNGJPGms4SNL0h3JXzDj/W9mbKpqOEbVfweZ/Ug9qGsBnMRgG0 LMgZyG4FKLqqo7QOWfTRNOeOLv6jHp84BrGZvs3omaUBA2yUdfCYoD/qiJ7s1NI= =1ChR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_1F1A3677-D085-4C35-B6EE-960368ED35F2-- From greg@illumintel.com Wed Oct 7 08:27:15 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B561AC400 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 08:27:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, J_CHICKENPOX_37=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SRNiDxMqJB83 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 08:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7E931AC3FD for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 08:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GregTHINKPAD ([108.36.224.115]) by p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id SFTA1r00N2W0KDo01FTBg1; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 08:27:13 -0700 From: "Greg Aaron" To: "'Gustavo Lozano'" , =?windows-1257?Q?'Patrik_Wallstr=F6m'?= , "'Hollenbeck, Scott'" References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0A9B8A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <9FBF2B96-1FF2-4A5F-9697-388AEA71BF67@ripe.net> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0AB58B@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <88246F46-92E4-4848-BC5B-2275E942C4AF@ripe.net> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0ABD5A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 11:27:05 -0400 Message-ID: <044b01d10114$a3134da0$e939e8e0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1257" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AQHRAQiF8QwlLt7wHEa5Mfuyers7P55gHMlQ Content-Language: en-us Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 04:32:48 -0700 Cc: gtld-tech@icann.org, eppext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 15:59:53 -0000 Gustavo correctly notes some important things --ICANN has contractual requirements that tell registries and registrars what data they MUST = deliver (currently via the WHOIS protocol), and ICANN is now working on how that data should be delivered via RDAP. Whatever document is created is = going to be binding on registries and registrars. As per the 2013 RAA, once = RDAP spec is mature =93ICANN reserves the right to specify alternative = formats and protocols, and upon such specification, the Registrar will implement = such alternative specification as soon as reasonably practicable.=94 The new = gTLD registry agreements contain similar. RDAP=92s supposedly been designed to deliver what ICANN might require of = its registrars and registries. If so, we are embarking on an exercise in implementation in the gTLD world, with ICANN as the policy authority. = BCPs for ccTLDs etc. might be nice, but seem like a distraction from the immediate task at hand. The implementation requirements should certainly be well-thought-out, = should receive input (and hopefully collegial buy-in) from the parties who will have to make it work, and should be clearly documented. As Gustavo = says, ICANN has process to deliver that. Requiring =93community consensus=94 = about the contents, as Scott suggested, is a different and higher standard = from what has been agreed to in the ICANN contracts. All best, --Greg -----Original Message----- From: gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org] = On Behalf Of Gustavo Lozano Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:00 AM To: Patrik Wallstr=F6m; Hollenbeck, Scott Cc: gtld-tech@icann.org; eppext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [gtld-tech] [eppext] RDAP server of the registry * PGP - S/MIME Signed by an unverified key: 10/7/2015 at 10:00:17 AM IMHO, this group (EPPEXT) could define a BCP for RDAP implementers (e.g. clients, DNRs, RIRs) of RDAP. This document could contain text like: * if you have information about an object, but you know about of another entity that may have extra information of the same object, you can use a links members with a rel:related to link to the RDAP server of the other entity =D0 (thin DNRs->Registrars, RIRs->NIRs->ISPs, etc) * HTTPS SHOULD be used, and the RDAP service MUST use the best practices = for secure use of TLS as described in RFC7525 or its successors. This group (EPPEXT) could define a BCP for DNRs (e.g. ccTLDs, gTLDs, = etc). This document could contain text like: * if you support IDN registrations, you MUST .... Maybe the RIRs are interested in defining a BCP for RIRs? The gTLD profile is a document related to ICANN policies, and like the = gTLD Whois advisory and the technical provisions of the registry agreement or RAA, should follow the ICANN process (e.g getting feedback from the = ICANN constituencies, public comments, etc). At this moment, the gTLD profile contains technical implementation provisions, because there are no documents that define those technical provisions, but a future version of the gTLD profile could remove the implementation provisions by referencing to the appropiate RFC(s). The open issues of appendix A of the gTLD profile should be addressed by = one or several I-Ds, but I don=B9t think they are only related to gTLDs. For example, I know of at least a ccTLD that implements 5. gTLD Registries want to have full requirements and an implementation = plan for all RDSS (i.e. whois, rdap) related activities, therefore the = schedule to have the gTLD profile ready looks tight. Regards, Gustavo On 10/7/15, 08:33, "EppExt on behalf of Patrik Wallstr=F6m" wrote: > >> On 07 Oct 2015, at 13:22, Hollenbeck, Scott=20 >> >>wrote: >>=20 >> Another possibility: a Best Current Practice (BCP) document. We=B9ll=20 >>need to think about what we think the =B3best practices=B2 should be, = but=20 >>that would be time well spent. Back to Gustavo=B9s original = question=D0 >>=20 >> Yes, I=B9d like to see bits like this documented in an I-D that=20 >>describes things that need to be added to RDAP for use by gTLD=20 >>registries and registrars. However, I=B9m going to suggest that we = take=20 >>an inventory of those omissions and try to organize them in some way=20 >>so that we don=B9t end up with multiple small documents that might=20 >>instead be represented as a smaller number of larger documents. The=20 >>profile document already has a good list of open issues; here=B9s a=20 >>thought on how to organize and address them. > >I think two documents might be good, one BCP for implementors (however, = >remembering RFC 4641 for DNSSEC, it is way to early in the deployment=20 >process to create a BCP) and an informational document for ICANNs=20 >requirements for gTLDs. I don=B9t think that the IETF ever = distinguishes=20 >between gTLDs and other TLDs, since this is purely an ICANN = distinction.. > >> 1. Gustavo=B9s links suggestion below. >>=20 >> 2. Jim Gould=B9s status value mapping: >>=20 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gould-epp-rdap-status-mapping/ >>=20 >> 3. The =B3the last update date and time of the database used to=20 >>generate the RDAP responses=B2 event. >>=20 >> 4. An event with the expiration date of the Registrar. >>=20 >> 5. If a Registry supports multiple host objects with the same name,=20 >>the Registry MUST support the capability to respond with a set of host = >>objects in response to a name server lookup. >>=20 >> I think these could be combined into one =B3RDAP extensions for gTLD=20 >>Registries and Registrars=B2 document. Additional search = functionality,=20 >>including Boolean search support, could be described in either this=20 >>document or another document. If it=B9s simple, include it all in one=20 >>document. If it isn=B9t, separate the topics so that the simpler ones=20 >>can move ahead more quickly. > >I would prefer if draft-gould-epp-rdap-status-mapping can go to=20 >standards track as a separate document, as it is beneficial for all TLD = >registries using EPP. > >> So I=B9m suggesting a new for two or three documents: one or two that = >>describe additional needed functionality and one that describes the op > >Yes, agree. > * Gustavo Lozano * Issuer: DigiCert Inc - Unverified From nobody Fri Oct 9 04:32:55 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08301B2EEF for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 10:00:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jXd7nl-V50JA for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 10:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p3plsmtpa08-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.111]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAA971B2EF0 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 10:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GregTHINKPAD ([108.36.224.115]) by p3plsmtpa08-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id SH071r0042W0KDo01H07fq; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 10:00:08 -0700 From: "Greg Aaron" To: "'Hollenbeck, Scott'" , "'Gustavo Lozano'" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?'Patrik_Wallstr=F6m'?= References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0A9B8A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <9FBF2B96-1FF2-4A5F-9697-388AEA71BF67@ripe.net> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0AB58B@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <88246F46-92E4-4848-BC5B-2275E942C4AF@ripe.net> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0ABD5A@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0AC026@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0AC026@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 13:00:04 -0400 Message-ID: <046b01d10121$9e35f5a0$daa1e0e0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AQHQ/3rntucFay3MHE6AZbmw28rIeZ5dIheggAGh9YCAAAlGYIAAen8AgACX8ZCAAFz6AIAAGGWA///F5VCAACTY0A== Content-Language: en-us Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 04:32:49 -0700 Cc: gtld-tech@icann.org, eppext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 17:00:12 -0000 Scott, the term "consensus policies" has a specific and formal meaning = at ICANN. Were you using that meaning in your post? All best, --Greg -----Original Message----- From: gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gtld-tech-bounces@icann.org] = On Behalf Of Hollenbeck, Scott Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:41 AM To: Gustavo Lozano; Patrik Wallstr=F6m Cc: gtld-tech@icann.org; eppext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [gtld-tech] [eppext] RDAP server of the registry * PGP - S/MIME Signed by an unverified key: 10/7/2015 at 10:41:25 AM > -----Original Message----- > From: Gustavo Lozano [mailto:gustavo.lozano@icann.org] > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:00 AM > To: Patrik Wallstr=F6m; Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: Kaveh Ranjbar; gtld-tech@icann.org; eppext@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [eppext] [gtld-tech] RDAP server of the registry [snip] > gTLD Registries want to have full requirements and an implementation=20 > plan for all RDSS (i.e. whois, rdap) related activities, therefore the = > schedule to have the gTLD profile ready looks tight. Gustavo, what's driving that schedule? How does it fit with the RDDS = policy development processes that are either under way or being considered? The = EWG I was part of made a number of recommendations that depend on RDAP. = Where do those recommendations come into play? This gTLD registry operator wants to be sure that we do this once, we do = it so that we don't have to undo things in the future, and we make implementation decisions based on consensus policies. If that takes = time, so be it. Scott * Hollenbeck, Scott * Issuer: Symantec Corporation - Unverified From nobody Fri Oct 9 12:46:03 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F2C1A1B28; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 12:46:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LBXkyVWUPHI0; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 12:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242B31A1B2C; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 12:46:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.4.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20151009194600.4814.80490.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 12:46:00 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: eppext@ietf.org Subject: [eppext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-func-spec-00.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 19:46:02 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Extensible Provisioning Protocol Extensions Working Group of the IETF. Title : TMCH functional specifications Author : Gustavo Lozano Filename : draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-func-spec-00.txt Pages : 72 Date : 2015-09-28 Abstract: This document describes the requirements, the architecture and the interfaces between the Trademark Clearing House (TMCH) and Domain Name Registries as well as between the TMCH and Domain Name Registrars for the provisioning and management of domain names during Sunrise and Trademark Claims Periods. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-func-spec/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-func-spec-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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The reseller draft is updated to 02 version accor= ding to WG discussion. Any comments are welcome.
The name <= span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5; background-color: windo= w;">suggested by Marc of this draft is p= lanning to be changed next version. The reseller status and postalinfo iss= ues would like to be discussed in WG meeting. 
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        Title = ;          : Extensible Provi= sioning Protocol (EPP) Reseller Mapping
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   &nb= sp;    Authors       &nb= sp; : Linlin Zhou
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   This document describes an Ext= ensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)
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        Title&= nbsp;          : Reseller Ext= ension for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)
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 &= nbsp;      Authors     &= nbsp;   : Linlin Zhou
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     = ;            &= nbsp;        Ning Kong
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         = ;            &= nbsp;    Xiaodong Lee
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   This mapping, an extension= to EPP object mappings like the EPP domain
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=0A ------=_001_NextPart871408684031_=------ From nobody Wed Oct 14 07:41:03 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA4F1A89AE for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:41:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.791 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HmFQDR1DIIqG for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MBX1.impetus.co.in (mail.impetus.co.in [103.250.168.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80CC71A884E for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MBX1.impetus.co.in (192.168.100.123) by MBX1.impetus.co.in (192.168.100.123) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1076.9; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:10:54 +0530 Received: from MBX1.impetus.co.in ([::1]) by MBX1.impetus.co.in ([fe80::cd6e:ddab:9f98:74d2%19]) with mapi id 15.00.1076.000; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:10:54 +0530 From: Santosh Kalsangrah To: "eppext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: pendingTransfer status Thread-Index: AdEGjlIItUAsg2heSE6ei7wpLP2ZlQ== Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:40:53 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US, en-IN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [192.168.100.161] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_da77223fcdd344d7b956e7036005b60fMBX1impetuscoin_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [eppext] pendingTransfer status X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:41:02 -0000 --_000_da77223fcdd344d7b956e7036005b60fMBX1impetuscoin_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, Can someone please confirm if client can request to add/remove pendingTrans= fer status on/from any object specifically domain object. My understanding = is that this status is added by server after successfully processing transf= er request and removed by server when transfer approve is processed success= fully. Thanks, Santosh Kalsangrah ________________________________ NOTE: This message may contain information that is confidential, proprietar= y, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The message is intended solely= for the named addressee. If received in error, please destroy and notify t= he sender. Any use of this email is prohibited when received in error. Impe= tus does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee, that the integrity of thi= s communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of e= rrors, virus, interception or interference. --_000_da77223fcdd344d7b956e7036005b60fMBX1impetuscoin_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,

 

Can someone please confirm if client can request to = add/remove pendingTransfer status on/from any object specifically domain ob= ject. My understanding is that this status is added by server after success= fully processing transfer request and removed by server when transfer approve is processed successfully.

 

Thanks,

Santosh Kalsangrah

 








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Clients should not be = able to set it directly. Scott From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Santosh Kalsangr= ah Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:41 AM To: eppext@ietf.org Subject: [eppext] pendingTransfer status Hi All, Can someone please confirm if client can request to add/remove pendingTrans= fer status on/from any object specifically domain object. My understanding = is that this status is added by server after successfully processing transf= er request and removed by server when transfer approve is processed success= fully. Thanks, Santosh Kalsangrah ________________________________ NOTE: This message may contain information that is confidential, proprietar= y, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The message is intended solely= for the named addressee. If received in error, please destroy and notify t= he sender. Any use of this email is prohibited when received in error. 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Yes, = the pendingTransfer status is one that is set and removed as a result of se= rver-side processing of the <transfer> command. Clients should not be= able to set it directly.

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Scott

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From: EppExt [= mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Santosh Kalsangrah
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:41 AM
To: eppext@ietf.org
Subject: [eppext] pendingTransfer status

 

Hi All,

 

Can someone please confirm if client can request to = add/remove pendingTransfer status on/from any object specifically domain ob= ject. My understanding is that this status is added by server after success= fully processing transfer request and removed by server when transfer approve is processed successfully.

 

Thanks,

Santosh Kalsangrah

 

 







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Hello,

[Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this email]
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Are you interested in meeting during IETF94 in order to discus= s the gTLD RDAP profile (see http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-Se= ptember/000507.html)? 

If there is enough inte= rest, I could request a room.

Remote particip= ation would be provided if there is interest.

Regar= ds,
Gustavo
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[72.13.63.42]) by smtp-relay.gmail.com with ESMTPS id p63sm1462368qkl.10.2015.10.15.04.07.09 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 15 Oct 2015 04:07:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Relaying-Domain: verisign.com Received: from BRN1WNEXCHM01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (brn1wnexchm01 [10.173.152.255]) by brn1lxmailout02.verisign.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t9FB79Kk018459 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:07:09 -0400 Received: from BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) by BRN1WNEXCHM01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:07:09 -0400 From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: Gustavo Lozano , "gtld-tech@icann.org" Thread-Topic: gTLD RDAP profile meeting during IETF94 Thread-Index: AQHRBt8AWvMdJLftt0m1mluidgoZSJ5sZWPA Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:07:08 +0000 Message-ID: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0B2F23@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0B2F23BRN1WNEXMBX02vc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "eppext@ietf.org" , "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [eppext] gTLD RDAP profile meeting during IETF94 X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:07:15 -0000 --_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0B2F23BRN1WNEXMBX02vc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would attend if a meeting is scheduled. Scott From: weirds [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gustavo Lozano Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:18 PM To: gtld-tech@icann.org Cc: eppext@ietf.org; weirds@ietf.org Subject: [weirds] gTLD RDAP profile meeting during IETF94 Hello, [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this email] Are you interested in meeting during IETF94 in order to discuss the gTLD RD= AP profile (see http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/0005= 07.html)? If there is enough interest, I could request a room. Remote participation would be provided if there is interest. Regards, Gustavo --_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0B2F23BRN1WNEXMBX02vc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I would attend if a meeting is scheduled.<= o:p>

 

Scott<= o:p>

 

From: weirds [= mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gustavo Lozano
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:18 PM
To: gtld-tech@icann.org
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Subject: [weirds] gTLD RDAP profile meeting during IETF94=

 

Hello,

 

[Apologies if you receive m= ultiple copies of this email]

 

Are you interested in meeti= ng during IETF94 in order to discuss the gTLD RDAP profile (see http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.html)= ? 

 

If there is enough interest= , I could request a room.

 

Remote participation would = be provided if there is interest.

 

Regards,<= /p>

Gustavo

--_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0B2F23BRN1WNEXMBX02vc_-- From nobody Thu Oct 15 04:13:22 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FF21B2B1F for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 04:13:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DMhQHWfmH3gi for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 04:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com (mail-wi0-f169.google.com [209.85.212.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1FA11B2B0C for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 04:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wicgb1 with SMTP id gb1so267431413wic.1 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 04:13:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=qDR1pIRjL7G7EqtNt3GZi5gvGiBJJnwet0D/aiWTpag=; b=bSl8WarLKgZCorERn3vXvqyC9ud14TIeGqPp8zdNMQcwIywaSr3Y/opDhrCdGKeTNr sHTLMibJ6jWV+r4EXWSELfbRqj6LkYCeJ8Xw+dVvcl3RtZrNIglNhLbKeu8NHV958mGU n1fZyecd/d/w23KAcCD5sc6ccAu1d2S19oUeGaE0hPJv4WOL6C1kUeXzxPz5GKG+rsze Pb5CZQWc2OHL3BL5zz0BECgj4osn7DR1hfwH8yZocg6xH5dNsO61kZ8iFVt3zfoW4QdH lfgqm0eLrkqXt73rMTgwhb5LH0XtMklE/UOjdKhKRQOkMgmkvoWGHbRSezv9y71YFksJ ZJvQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQngGNMCOG4mws6RV+avOYEkxW48bA/6fyxbq9GPb01aAU4Uo3PyMbaJU0bejq/zKR3p/RHd X-Received: by 10.194.20.68 with SMTP id l4mr11219800wje.24.1444907595691; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 04:13:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0B2F23@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0B2F23@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> From: Ulrich Wisser Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:13:06 +0000 Message-ID: To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" , Gustavo Lozano , "gtld-tech@icann.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d382af992cc052222c3a2 Archived-At: Cc: "eppext@ietf.org" , "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [eppext] [weirds] gTLD RDAP profile meeting during IETF94 X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:13:20 -0000 --047d7b5d382af992cc052222c3a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +1 Hollenbeck, Scott schrieb am Do., 15. Okt. 2015 um 13:07 Uhr: > I would attend if a meeting is scheduled. > > > > Scott > > > > *From:* weirds [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Gustavo > Lozano > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:18 PM > *To:* gtld-tech@icann.org > *Cc:* eppext@ietf.org; weirds@ietf.org > *Subject:* [weirds] gTLD RDAP profile meeting during IETF94 > > > > Hello, > > > > [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this email] > > > > Are you interested in meeting during IETF94 in order to discuss the gTLD > RDAP profile (see > http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.html)? > > > > If there is enough interest, I could request a room. > > > > Remote participation would be provided if there is interest. > > > > Regards, > > Gustavo > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds > -- Ulrich Wisser ulrich@wisser.se --047d7b5d382af992cc052222c3a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I would attend if a meeting is scheduled.<= u>

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From: Ulrich Wisser
Sent: =FD10= /=FD15/=FD2015 6:13 AM
To: Hollenbeck, Scott; Gustavo Lozano; gtld-tech@icann.org
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Subject: Re: [= eppext] [weirds] gTLD RDAP profile meeting during IETF94

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Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com> schrieb am Do., = 15. Okt. 2015 um 13:07 Uhr:

I would attend if a meeting is scheduled.=

 

Scott=

 

From: weirds= [mailto:weird= s-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gustavo Lozano
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:18 PM
To: gtld-te= ch@icann.org
Cc: eppext@ietf= .org; weirds@ietf.org
Subject: [weirds] gTLD RDAP profile meeting during IETF94<= /u>

 

Hello,

 

[Apologies if you receive= multiple copies of this email]

 

Are you interested in mee= ting during IETF94 in order to discuss the gTLD RDAP profile (see http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.html)?&nb= sp;

 

If there is enough intere= st, I could request a room.

 

Remote participation woul= d be provided if there is interest.

 

Regards,

Gustavo

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--_000_BY2PR0201MB0773ECDA6FD5AA59D21BC64FB13E0BY2PR0201MB0773_-- From nobody Thu Oct 15 19:58:56 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163451B2D97; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:58:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.161 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.161 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6ZefD0brVtjC; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp13.cnnic.cn [218.241.118.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C04F1B2D90; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [218.241.103.236] (unknown [218.241.103.236]) by ocmail02.zx.nicx.cn (Coremail) with SMTP id AQAAf0AJEEzMZyBW7wuzBA--.1905S2; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:58:21 +0800 (CST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A409966D-7D34-40EC-A60D-19DBBF2A6111" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.0 \(3094\)) From: Ning Kong In-Reply-To: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0B2F23@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:58:21 +0800 Message-Id: <05121C51-3D3C-469C-964E-929E1EA539F3@cnnic.cn> References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4A0B2F23@BRN1WNEXMBX02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3094) X-CM-TRANSID: AQAAf0AJEEzMZyBW7wuzBA--.1905S2 X-Coremail-Antispam: 1UD129KBjvdXoW7GFWDZr4xGr48KFWfGrWkXrb_yoWfZrb_Gr nrXa4kXrnrAw4xtF43Aw1DKr13X3yY9343AasxJF17Z34vyr1DGrZ2gr9rZa48GFyDGF43 Jr1fXry7JrW5GjkaLaAFLSUrUUUUUb8apTn2vfkv8UJUUUU8Yxn0WfASr-VFAUDa7-sFnT 9fnUUIcSsGvfJTRUUUb-kYjsxI4VWxJwAYFVCjjxCrM7AC8VAFwI0_Jr0_Gr1l1xkIjI8I 6I8E6xAIw20EY4v20xvaj40_Wr0E3s1l1IIY67AEw4v_Jr0_Jr4l8cAvFVAK0II2c7xJM2 8CjxkF64kEwVA0rcxSw2x7M28EF7xvwVC0I7IYx2IY67AKxVW7JVWDJwA2z4x0Y4vE2Ix0 cI8IcVCY1x0267AKxVWxJVW8Jr1l84ACjcxK6I8E87Iv67AKxVWxJr0_GcWl84ACjcxK6I 8E87Iv6xkF7I0E14v26rxl6s0DM2AIxVAIcxkEcVAq07x20xvEncxIr21l5I8CrVAYj202 j2C_Gr0_Xr1l5I8CrVAKz4kIr2xC04v26r1j6r4UMcIj6xIIjxv20xvE14v26r106r15Mc Ij6I8E87Iv67AKxVWUJVW8JwAm72CE4IkC6x0Yz7v_Jr0_Gr1lF7xvr2IYc2Ij64vIr41l 7480Y4vEI4kI2Ix0rVAqx4xJMxkIecxEwVAFwVW8JwCF04k20xvY0x0EwIxGrwCFx2IqxV CFs4IE7xkEbVWUJVW8JwC20s026c02F40E14v26r106r1rMI8I3I0E7480Y4vE14v26r10 6r1rMI8E67AF67kF1VAFwI0_JF0_Jw1lIxkGc2Ij64vIr41lIxAIcVC0I7IYx2IY67AKxV WUJVWUCwCI42IY6xIIjxv20xvEc7CjxVAFwI0_Jr0_Gr1lIxAIcVCF04k26cxKx2IYs7xG 6rWUJVWrZr1UMIIF0xvEx4A2jsIE14v26r1j6r4UMIIF0xvEx4A2jsIEc7CjxVAFwI0_Jr 0_GrUvcSsGvfC2KfnxnUUI43ZEXa7IU1loGJUUUUU== X-CM-SenderInfo: xqnr0ww6fq0xffof0/ Archived-At: Cc: "weirds@ietf.org" , "gtld-tech@icann.org" , "eppext@ietf.org" , Gustavo Lozano Subject: Re: [eppext] [weirds] gTLD RDAP profile meeting during IETF94 X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 02:58:54 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_A409966D-7D34-40EC-A60D-19DBBF2A6111 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 +1 > =D4=DA 2015=C4=EA10=D4=C215=C8=D5=A3=AC19:07=A3=ACHollenbeck, Scott = =D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA >=20 > I would attend if a meeting is scheduled. > =20 > Scott > =20 > From: weirds [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org = ] On Behalf Of Gustavo Lozano > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:18 PM > To: gtld-tech@icann.org > Cc: eppext@ietf.org ; weirds@ietf.org = > Subject: [weirds] gTLD RDAP profile meeting during IETF94 > =20 > Hello, > =20 > [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this email] > =20 > Are you interested in meeting during IETF94 in order to discuss the = gTLD RDAP profile = (seehttp://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.html = )?=20= > =20 > If there is enough interest, I could request a room. > =20 > Remote participation would be provided if there is interest. > =20 > Regards, > Gustavo > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds = --Apple-Mail=_A409966D-7D34-40EC-A60D-19DBBF2A6111 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=gb2312
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=D4=DA 2015=C4=EA10=D4=C215=C8=D5=A3=AC19:07=A3=ACHollenbeck, = Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com> =D0=B4=B5=C0=A3=BA

I would attend if a = meeting is scheduled.
 
Scott
 
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Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 = 8:18 PM
To: gtld-tech@icann.org
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Hello,
 
[Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this email]
 
Are you interested in = meeting during IETF94 in order to discuss the gTLD RDAP profile (seehttp://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gtld-tech/2015-September/000507.h= tml)? 
 
If there is enough interest, I could request a room.
 
Remote participation would = be provided if there is interest.
 
Regards,
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= --Apple-Mail=_A409966D-7D34-40EC-A60D-19DBBF2A6111-- From nobody Mon Oct 19 08:18:04 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: eppext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD221A9143 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:18:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.295 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.295 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bBXAJLB_Eg4b for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arn2-kamx.sidn.nl (kamx.sidn.nl [IPv6:2a00:d78:0:147:94:198:152:69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96E5F1A911E for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:17:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; d=sidn.nl; s=sidn-nl; c=relaxed/relaxed; h=from:to:subject:thread-topic:thread-index:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to:accept-language:content-language:x-ms-has-attach:x-ms-tnef-correlator:x-originating-ip:content-type:mime-version; bh=TmM1sejpNHwxaPWvDv9iFgxqLC87XU/cdUwRQcvEqd4=; b=nORQizdx3TrJ/NkY1A4DAfkRsKaoDPPIpElOxKKbGUy3T0K9Hs0z6+N2ytbnsOvu6vrCcNNjPjE2WCEh1ezcxdUIrwOCK2frnfz9MbhEfs9yGw+nl4XTtwfw2COQZTUH+EjDxETgytIEHRkAi0FQMZclrxCTu6oFKbVHfdaZDOsCOQHdQCdadT6bXRDSv2RMemwvPwuxgvOFxVW9KYUfzgNHDO87jCesbLHe8M2iXdPMlCy6ikQmnDh1RFOZ6DOlSl+EdhxKIQvDrjb25CzLAysp8s9h3LbIqpV/WlSpPmQnVZqn4doCDtpP22uMfCwxDD96W/U7MeOQnfJcKUtbrQ== Received: from ka-mbx02.SIDN.local ([192.168.2.178]) by arn2-kamx.sidn.nl with ESMTP id t9JFHidW030316-t9JFHidY030316 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=CAFAIL); Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:17:44 +0200 Received: from KAHUBCASN02.SIDN.local (192.168.2.76) by ka-mbx02.SIDN.local (192.168.2.178) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1076.9; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:17:44 +0200 Received: from KAMBX2.SIDN.local ([fe80::b1fd:88d9:e136:9655]) by kahubcasn02 ([192.168.2.74]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:17:44 +0200 From: Rik Ribbers To: "'Linlin Zhou'" , "eppext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.txt Thread-Index: AQHRBJ31T7rmdBeMGEmu7MNxJeQn7p5y916A Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:17:43 +0000 Message-ID: References: <2015101211272745137723@cnnic.cn> In-Reply-To: <2015101211272745137723@cnnic.cn> Accept-Language: nl-NL, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.2.171] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C80127C588F8F2409E2B535AF968B768BA2A35B3kambx2SIDNlocal_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.txt X-BeenThere: eppext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: EPPEXT List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:18:02 -0000 --_000_C80127C588F8F2409E2B535AF968B768BA2A35B3kambx2SIDNlocal_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello LinLin, In preparation for Yokohama I'm catching up an all the drafts on the agenda= . I've read the reseller extension draft and have some remarks: - The abstract of an I-D should be able to stand alone outside the document= without references. So I suggest to remove the reference to RFC5731. This = remark is triggered by another remark from Scott during WG last call for ke= yrelay (see point 2 in https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/eppext/current= /msg00615.html ) - Section 1: A reseller mapping object defined in [ID.draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping] SHOULD be created first. The reseller information specified in this document SHOULD reference the existing reseller identifier and reseller name. The I-D states only references to reseller identifier and not name. So the = last part (and reseller name) can be removed. The name is optional so it ca= nnot be used for referencing. - Section 3.1. All highlevel object like contact and host specify something= s about identifier being unique within the server (e.g. RFC 5732 section 2.= 1) I suggest to do the same here for Reseller Identifier. The same applies = for the reseller mapping draft. - Section 3.2 Same here : specify that the name is optional, but added for = readability. And maybe add some wording that it is there to comply with exi= sting implementations? I don't know it the last one is actually true but th= is is what I've understood so far. - Section 4.2.3 : For readability I suggest to move the last 2 sentence in = front of the example. I overlooked them the first time I read the draft. - XML Namespacing: I suggest to shorten the namespace prefix to "re" and th= e URN to resellerExtension. Although this is a matter of taste I don't like= the resellerext naming as the ext postfix can be serveral things: extensio= n, external of something else. Given the context it is quite obvious what i= t is though. - Section 4.2.5 The section describing how many add and remove elements are= allowed is not directly clear to me. In our own reseller implementation we= have the possibility to use 2 elements (an add and remove element) for cha= nging the reseller. I think this is written there, but I'm not quite sure. = And is there a typo where there are 2 rem elements? I guess one of them sho= uld be a chg? I have a suggestion for the wording Current text At least one and only one , or element MUST be provided. The , and elements contain the following child element: My suggestion would be this (this makes the draft more compatible with our = implementation): At least one of , or element MUST be provided. Only one element MUST be allo= wed. If a element is provided a , element MUST NOT be allowed. Only one and MUST be allowed. A and M= AY be combined into one element. -Section 5 formal syntax There is a typo in the schema : resellerr Date: 2015-10-12 11:16 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. Title : Reseller Extension for the Extensible Provisionin= g Protocol (EPP) Authors : Linlin Zhou Ning Kong Chao Qi Xiaodong Lee James Gould Filename : draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2015-10-11 Abstract: This mapping, an extension to EPP object mappings like the EPP domain name mapping [RFC5731], to support assigning a reseller to any existing object (domain, host, contact) as well as any future objects. Specified in Extensible Markup Language (XML), this extended mapping is applied to provide additional features required for the provisioning of resellers. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhou-eppext-reseller/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ I-D-Announce mailing list I-D-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt --_000_C80127C588F8F2409E2B535AF968B768BA2A35B3kambx2SIDNlocal_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello LinL= in,

 = ;

In prepara= tion for Yokohama I'm catching up an all the drafts on the agenda. I've rea= d the reseller extension draft and have some remarks:

 = ;

- The abst= ract of an I-D should be able to stand alone outside the document without r= eferences. So I suggest to remove the reference to RFC5731. This remark is triggered by another remark from Scott during WG last call = for keyrelay (see point 2 in https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/eppext/current/msg00615.html = )

 = ;

- Section = 1:

 = ;

 &nbs= p; A reseller mapping object defined in

 &nbs= p; [ID.draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping] SHOULD be created first.  T= he

 &nbs= p; reseller information specified in this document SHOULD reference the

 &nbs= p; existing reseller identifier and reseller name.

 = ;

The I-D st= ates only references to reseller identifier and not name. So the last part = (and reseller name) can be removed. The name is optional so it cannot be used for referencing.

 = ;

- Section = 3.1. All highlevel object like contact and host specify somethings about id= entifier being unique within the server (e.g. RFC 5732 section 2.1) I suggest to do the same here for Reseller Identifier. The same appli= es for the reseller mapping draft.

 = ;

- Section = 3.2 Same here : specify that the name is optional, but added for readabilit= y. And maybe add some wording that it is there to comply with existing implementations? I don't know it the last one is actually true bu= t this is what I've understood so far.

 = ;

- Section = 4.2.3 : For readability I suggest to move the last 2 sentence in front of t= he example. I overlooked them the first time I read the draft.

 = ;

- XML Name= spacing: I suggest to shorten the namespace prefix to "re" and th= e URN to resellerExtension. Although this is a matter of taste I don't like the resellerext naming as the ext postfix can be serveral things: ext= ension, external of something else. Given the context it is quite obvious w= hat it is though.

 = ;

- Section = 4.2.5 The section describing how many add and remove elements are allowed i= s not directly clear to me. In our own reseller implementation we have the possibility to use 2 elements (an add and remove element) for = changing the reseller. I think this is written there, but I'm not quite sur= e. And is there a typo where there are 2 rem elements? I guess one of them = should be a chg? I have a suggestion for the wording

 = ;

Current te= xt

 &nbs= p;

 &nbs= p; At least one and only one <resellerext:add>, <resellerext:= rem> or

 &nbs= p; <resellerext:rem> element MUST be provided.  The <reseller= ext:add>,

 &nbs= p; <resellerext:rem> and <resellerext:rem> elements contain the=

 &nbs= p; following child element:

 = ;

My suggest= ion would be this (this makes the draft more compatible with our implementa= tion):

 = ;

 &nbs= p; At least one of <resellerext:add>, <resellerext:rem> or <= resellerext:chg> element MUST be provided. Only one <resellerext:chg&= gt; element MUST be allowed. If a <resellerext:chg> element is provided a <reselle= rext:add>, <resellerext:rem> element MUST NOT be allowed. Only one= <resellerext:add> and <resellerext:rem> MUST be allowed. A <= ;resellerext:add> and <resellerext:rem> MAY be combined into one <resellerext:update> element.

 

 &nbs= p; 

-Section 5= formal syntax There is a typo in the schema : resellerr<= /p>

 = ;

<schema= targetNamespace=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:resellerext-1.0"<= /o:p>

 &nbs= p;      xmlns:resellerr=3D"urn:ietf:params:x= ml:ns:resellerext-1.0"

 <= /p>

 <= /p>

Kind regards,<= /span>

Rik

 <= /p>

From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linlin Zhou
Sent: maandag 12 oktober 2015 5:27
To: eppext@ietf.org
Subject: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.txt<= o:p>

 

The reseller draft is updated to 02= version according to WG discussion. Any comments are welcome. 

The name sugg= ested by Marc of this draft is planning to be changed next versio= n.

 

Linlin Zhou

 

Date: 2015-10-12 11:16<= /o:p>

Subject: I-D Action: draft-zhou-e= ppext-reseller-02.txt

 

A New Internet-Draft is available f= rom the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.

 

 

      = ;  Title           := Reseller Extension for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)

      = ;  Authors         : Linlin Zh= ou

      = ;            &n= bsp;       Ning Kong

      = ;            &n= bsp;       Chao Qi

      = ;            &n= bsp;       Xiaodong Lee

      = ;            &n= bsp;       James Gould

Filename    &nb= sp;   : draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.txt

Pages     =       : 17

Date     &= nbsp;      : 2015-10-11

 

Abstract:

   This mapping, an exten= sion to EPP object mappings like the EPP domain

   name mapping [RFC5731]= , to support assigning a reseller to any

   existing object (domai= n, host, contact) as well as any future

   objects.  Specifi= ed in Extensible Markup Language (XML), this

   extended mapping is ap= plied to provide additional features required

   for the provisioning o= f resellers.

 

 

The IETF datatracker status page fo= r this draft is:

 

There's also a htmlized version ava= ilable at:

 

A diff from the previous version is= available at:

 

 

Please note that it may take a coup= le of minutes from the time of submission

until the htmlized version and diff= are available at tools.ietf.org.

 

Internet-Drafts are also available = by anonymous FTP at:

 

___________________________________= ____________

I-D-Announce mailing list

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The I-D states o= nly references to reseller identifier and not name. So the last part (and = reseller name) can be removed. The name is optional so=0A it cannot be use= d for referencing.

[Linlin] In this paragraph, I would like to explain that= the <resellerext:id> should refer to <reseller:id> and the op= tional <resellerext:name> should refer to <reseller:name>. In = my opinion, the optional name element should also be in compliance with the existing reseller object name.

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- Section 3.1. = All highlevel object like contact and host specify somethings about identi= fier being unique within the server (e.g. RFC 5732 section=0A 2.1) I sugge= st to do the same here for Reseller Identifier. The same applies for the r= eseller mapping draft.

[Linlin] I guess you mean RFC5732 section 2.2. I'l= l add a sentence such as "All reseller objects are identified by a server-= unique identifier" in two drafts.

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- Section 3.2 Same here : specify that th= e name is optional, but added for readability. And maybe add some wording = that it is there to comply with=0A existing implementations? I don't know = it the last one is actually true but this is what I've understood so far.<= o:p>

[= Linlin] See the above explanation.

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[Linlin] I think maybe the text layout caused the overloo= k problem. Almost all o= f the examples follow the last 2 sentences. To keep the consistency, I sug= gest leaving them there.

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[Linlin] This is a personal naming habit. We could discuss it in= private:)

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=0A- Section 4.2.5 The section describing how many add and remove ele= ments are allowed is not directly clear to me. In our own reseller impleme= ntation=0A we have the possibility to use 2 elements (an add and remove el= ement) for changing the reseller. I think this is written there, but I'm n= ot quite sure. And is there a typo where there are 2 rem elements? I guess= one of them should be a chg? I have a suggestion=0A for the wording<= /o:p>

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[Linlin] Yes. This should be xmlns:resellerext=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:rese= llerext-1.0". Thank you.

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Gr Rik From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linlin Zhou Sent: dinsdag 20 oktober 2015 7:54 To: Rik Ribbers; eppext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.txt Dear Rik, Thanks for your comments. Please see my feedback inline. Regards, ________________________________ Linlin Zhou From: Rik Ribbers Date: 2015-10-19 23:17 To: 'Linlin Zhou'; eppext@ietf.org Subject: RE: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.txt Hello LinLin, In preparation for Yokohama I'm catching up an all the drafts on the agenda= . I've read the reseller extension draft and have some remarks: - The abstract of an I-D should be able to stand alone outside the document= without references. So I suggest to remove the reference to RFC5731. This = remark is triggered by another remark from Scott during WG last call for ke= yrelay (see point 2 in https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/eppext/current= /msg00615.html ) [Linlin] Thanks. This will be revised. - Section 1: A reseller mapping object defined in [ID.draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping] SHOULD be created first. The reseller information specified in this document SHOULD reference the existing reseller identifier and reseller name. The I-D states only references to reseller identifier and not name. So the = last part (and reseller name) can be removed. The name is optional so it ca= nnot be used for referencing. [Linlin] In this paragraph, I would like to explain that the should refer to and the optional should= refer to . In my opinion, the optional name element should = also be in compliance with the existing reseller object name. [Rik] Ok - Section 3.1. All highlevel object like contact and host specify something= s about identifier being unique within the server (e.g. RFC 5732 section 2.= 1) I suggest to do the same here for Reseller Identifier. The same applies = for the reseller mapping draft. [Linlin] I guess you mean RFC5732 section 2.2. I'll add a sentence such as = "All reseller objects are identified by a server-unique identifier" in two = drafts. [Rik] Exactly what I would expect - Section 3.2 Same here : specify that the name is optional, but added for = readability. And maybe add some wording that it is there to comply with exi= sting implementations? I don't know it the last one is actually true but th= is is what I've understood so far. [Linlin] See the above explanation. - Section 4.2.3 : For readability I suggest to move the last 2 sentence in = front of the example. I overlooked them the first time I read the draft. [Linlin] I think maybe the text layout caused the overlook problem. Almost = all of the examples follow the last 2 sentences. To keep the consistency, I= suggest leaving them there. [Rik] ok - XML Namespacing: I suggest to shorten the namespace prefix to "re" and th= e URN to resellerExtension. Although this is a matter of taste I don't like= the resellerext naming as the ext postfix can be serveral things: extensio= n, external of something else. Given the context it is quite obvious what i= t is though. [Linlin] This is a personal naming habit. We could discuss it in private:) [Rik] lets do that ;-) - Section 4.2.5 The section describing how many add and remove elements are= allowed is not directly clear to me. In our own reseller implementation we= have the possibility to use 2 elements (an add and remove element) for cha= nging the reseller. I think this is written there, but I'm not quite sure. = And is there a typo where there are 2 rem elements? I guess one of them sho= uld be a chg? I have a suggestion for the wording Current text At least one and only one , or element MUST be provided. The , and elements contain the following child element: My suggestion would be this (this makes the draft more compatible with our = implementation): At least one of , or element MUST be provided. Only one element MUST be allo= wed. If a element is provided a , element MUST NOT be allowed. Only one and MUST be allowed. A and M= AY be combined into one element. [Linlin] Yes, there's an extra rem, this should be chg. The suggested text = looks good to me. I'll update it. [Rik] ok -Section 5 formal syntax There is a typo in the schema : resellerr Subject: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.txt The reseller draft is updated to 02 version according to WG discussion. Any= comments are welcome. The name suggested by Marc of this draft is planning to be changed next ver= sion. ________________________________ Linlin Zhou From: internet-drafts Date: 2015-10-12 11:16 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. Title : Reseller Extension for the Extensible Provisionin= g Protocol (EPP) Authors : Linlin Zhou Ning Kong Chao Qi Xiaodong Lee James Gould Filename : draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2015-10-11 Abstract: This mapping, an extension to EPP object mappings like the EPP domain name mapping [RFC5731], to support assigning a reseller to any existing object (domain, host, contact) as well as any future objects. Specified in Extensible Markup Language (XML), this extended mapping is applied to provide additional features required for the provisioning of resellers. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhou-eppext-reseller/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ I-D-Announce mailing list I-D-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt --_000_C80127C588F8F2409E2B535AF968B768BA2B4CF5kambx2SIDNlocal_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Linl= in,

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Some comme= nts below.

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Gr

Rik

From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linlin Zhou
Sent: dinsdag 20 oktober 2015 7:54
To: Rik Ribbers; eppext@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.= txt

 

Dear Rik,

Thanks for your comments. Please se= e my feedback inline.

 

Regards,

Linlin Zhou

 

From: Rik Ribbers

Date: 2015-10-19 23:17<= /o:p>

Subject: RE: [eppext] Fw: I-D Act= ion: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.txt

Hello LinL= in,

 

In prepara= tion for Yokohama I'm catching up an all the drafts on the agenda. I've rea= d the reseller extension draft and have some remarks:

 

- The abst= ract of an I-D should be able to stand alone outside the document without r= eferences. So I suggest to remove the reference to RFC5731. This remark is triggered by another remark from Scott during WG last call = for keyrelay (see point 2 in https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/eppext/current/msg00615.html = )

[Linlin] Thanks. This will be revised.

 

- Section = 1:

 

 &nbs= p; A reseller mapping object defined in<= o:p>

 &nbs= p; [ID.draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-mapping] SHOULD be created first.  T= he

 &nbs= p; reseller information specified in this document SHOULD reference the

 &nbs= p; existing reseller identifier and reseller name.

 

The I-D st= ates only references to reseller identifier and not name. So the last part = (and reseller name) can be removed. The name is optional so it cannot be used for referencing.=

[Linlin] In this paragraph, I= would like to explain that the <resellerext:id> should refer to <= reseller:id> and the optional <resellerext:name> should refer to &= lt;reseller:name>. In my opinion, the optional name element should also be in compliance with the existing re= seller object name.

 [Rik] Ok

 <= /p>

- Section = 3.1. All highlevel object like contact and host specify somethings about id= entifier being unique within the server (e.g. RFC 5732 section 2.1) I suggest to do the same here for Reseller Identifier. The same appli= es for the reseller mapping draft.<= /o:p>

[Linlin] I guess you mean RFC= 5732 section 2.2. I'll add a sentence such as "All reseller objects ar= e identified by a server-unique identifier" in two drafts.

 [Rik] Exactly what I would exp= ect

 = ;

- Section = 3.2 Same here : specify that the name is optional, but added for readabilit= y. And maybe add some wording that it is there to comply with existing implementations? I don't know it the last one is actually true bu= t this is what I've understood so far.

[Linlin] See the above explan= ation.

 

- Section = 4.2.3 : For readability I suggest to move the last 2 sentence in front of t= he example. I overlooked them the first time I read the draft.

[Linlin] I think maybe the text layout caused the = overlook problem. Almost all of the examples follow the last 2 sentences. To keep the consistency, = I suggest leaving them there.=

[Rik] ok

 

- XML Name= spacing: I suggest to shorten the namespace prefix to "re" and th= e URN to resellerExtension. Although this is a matter of taste I don't like the resellerext naming as the ext postfix can be serveral things: ext= ension, external of something else. Given the context it is quite obvious w= hat it is though.

[Linlin] Thi= s is a personal naming habit. We could discuss it in private:)

[Rik] lets= do that ;-)

 

- Section = 4.2.5 The section describing how many add and remove elements are allowed i= s not directly clear to me. In our own reseller implementation we have the possibility to use 2 elements (an add and remove element) for = changing the reseller. I think this is written there, but I'm not quite sur= e. And is there a typo where there are 2 rem elements? I guess one of them = should be a chg? I have a suggestion for the wording

 

Current te= xt

 &nbs= p;

 &nbs= p; At least one and only one <resellerext:add>, <resellerext:= rem> or

 &nbs= p; <resellerext:rem> element MUST be provided.  The <reseller= ext:add>,

 &nbs= p; <resellerext:rem> and <resellerext:rem> elements contain the=

 &nbs= p; following child element:

 

My suggest= ion would be this (this makes the draft more compatible with our implementa= tion):

 

 &nbs= p; At least one of <resellerext:add>, <resellerext:rem> or <= resellerext:chg> element MUST be provided. Only one <resellerext:chg&= gt; element MUST be allowed. If a <resellerext:chg> element is provided a <reselle= rext:add>, <resellerext:rem> element MUST NOT be allowed. Only one= <resellerext:add> and <resellerext:rem> MUST be allowed. A <= ;resellerext:add> and <resellerext:rem> MAY be combined into one <resellerext:update> element.

[Linlin] Yes, there's an extr= a rem, this should be chg. The suggested text looks good to me. I'll update= it.

[Rik] ok

 &nbs= p; 

-Section 5= formal syntax There is a typo in the schema : resellerr

 

<schema= targetNamespace=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:resellerext-1.0"

 &nbs= p;      xmlns:resellerr=3D"urn:ietf:params:x= ml:ns:resellerext-1.0"

[Linlin] Yes. This should be xmlns:rese= llerext=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:resellerext-1.0". Thank you.

 

 

Kind regards,

Rik

 

From: EppExt [mailto:eppext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linlin Zhou
Sent: maandag 12 oktober 2015 5:27
To: eppext@ietf.org
Subject: [eppext] Fw: I-D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.txt<= /span>

 

The reseller draft is updated to 02= version according to WG discussion. Any comments are welcome. =

The name sugg= ested by Marc of this draft is planning to be changed next versio= n.

 

Linlin Zhou

 

Date: 2015= -10-12 11:16

Subject: I= -D Action: draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.txt

 

A New Internet-Draft is available f= rom the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.

 

 

      = ;  Title           := Reseller Extension for the Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP)

      = ;  Authors         : Linlin Zh= ou

      = ;            &n= bsp;       Ning Kong

      = ;            &n= bsp;       Chao Qi

      = ;            &n= bsp;       Xiaodong Lee

      = ;            &n= bsp;       James Gould

Filename    &nb= sp;   : draft-zhou-eppext-reseller-02.txt

Pages     =       : 17=

Date     &= nbsp;      : 2015-10-11

 

Abstract:

   This mapping, an exten= sion to EPP object mappings like the EPP domain

   name mapping [RFC5731]= , to support assigning a reseller to any=

   existing object (domai= n, host, contact) as well as any future<= o:p>

   objects.  Specifi= ed in Extensible Markup Language (XML), this

   extended mapping is ap= plied to provide additional features required

   for the provisioning o= f resellers.

 

 

The IETF datatracker status page fo= r this draft is:

 

There's also a htmlized version ava= ilable at:

 

A diff from the previous version is= available at:

 

 

Please note that it may take a coup= le of minutes from the time of submission

until the htmlized version and diff= are available at tools.ietf.org.

 

Internet-Drafts are also available = by anonymous FTP at:

 

___________________________________= ____________

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Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html=

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