From nobody Thu Jul 20 05:08:20 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: int-dir@ietf.org Delivered-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A92131C1A; Thu, 20 Jul 2017 05:08:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ralf Weber To: Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, draft-ietf-dhc-relay-port.all@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.57.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150055249283.9589.17482424577250077220@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 05:08:12 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-dhc-relay-port-05 X-BeenThere: int-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "This list is for discussion between the members of the Internet Area directorate." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 12:08:13 -0000 Reviewer: Ralf Weber Review result: Ready with Nits Moin! I reviewed this document and I'm good with it. The only minor purely cosmetic note is that it took me some time to understand why you record the port for the IPv6 relay chain. According to a discussion I had with Bernie that is to be able to have the agent stateless. Maybe add that to the motivation why you store it in the packet at the end of section 4 (, to allow stateless operation in a relay chain) So long -Ralf From nobody Thu Jul 20 21:23:39 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B2B1294A2; Thu, 20 Jul 2017 21:23:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_HTML_ATTACH=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZTC01yGLwjfa; Thu, 20 Jul 2017 21:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.86.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7A4F126C2F; Thu, 20 Jul 2017 21:23:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=27061; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1500611015; x=1501820615; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=TcNQc5y3bIMjAIOrMbXiov0q1Uy1qV6GDCQekqdctk4=; b=CuOq/kT7LMmyJQ1E/ZaEPfb/6m/HBc1n9WA+/0/jpfFmu5O2nGSGYP6S 4xW8y28TL76j2CYJ4+xOEebLL1WALwexVsH+Xb38HNPN4gVoRLxwQlmXN mYNRwqvjEy58UHTpWLWo7pd9DFDXv5qYCjlTMrarfoOkaM0AJrtxdn4An 4=; X-Files: draft-ietf-dhc-relay-port-06-from-5.diff.html, ATT00001.txt : 17970, 616 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0DJAABkgHFZ/4sNJK1cGgEBAQECAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QgBAQEBgy0tZIEUB44FkWeWBYIRLIM8gV8CGoNbPxgBAgEBAQEBAQFrKIUYAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQIBIwpMBQsCAQYCGCAKAgICMCUCBA4FDooZCBCTWZ1kgiaLIwEBAQEBAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQ4PgyiFWYJ5hFSDKTCCMQEEilGMeoJghRYChCuCHYEBhxS?= =?us-ascii?q?FO4IMGT6EeYkVgUSVXgEfOIEKdRVJEgGER4I8dgGIeIEOAQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.40,387,1496102400"; d="txt'?html'217?scan'217,208,217";a="272659802" Received: from alln-core-6.cisco.com ([173.36.13.139]) by rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 21 Jul 2017 04:23:34 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-002.cisco.com (xch-aln-002.cisco.com [173.36.7.12]) by alln-core-6.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v6L4NYMf024520 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 21 Jul 2017 04:23:34 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-004.cisco.com (173.37.102.14) by XCH-ALN-002.cisco.com (173.36.7.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1210.3; Thu, 20 Jul 2017 23:23:33 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-004.cisco.com ([173.37.102.14]) by XCH-RCD-004.cisco.com ([173.37.102.14]) with mapi id 15.00.1210.000; Thu, 20 Jul 2017 23:23:33 -0500 From: "Naiming Shen (naiming)" To: Ralf Weber CC: "int-dir@ietf.org" , dhcwg , "ietf@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-dhc-relay-port.all@ietf.org" , "Enke Chen (enkechen)" Thread-Topic: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-dhc-relay-port-05 Thread-Index: AQHTAVDdC/pmVM+g8UmmGrJI4+prW6JeA2gA Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 04:23:33 +0000 Message-ID: References: <150055249283.9589.17482424577250077220@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <150055249283.9589.17482424577250077220@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.24.76.31] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_003_B560FD8DFFF14D2E947BA1F1BD3AA6DAciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-dhc-relay-port-05 X-BeenThere: int-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is for discussion between the members of the Internet Area directorate." 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"draft-ietf-dhc-relay-port.all@ietf.org" , "Enke Chen (enkechen)" Thread-Topic: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-dhc-relay-port-05 Thread-Index: AQHTAVDdC/pmVM+g8UmmGrJI4+prW6JeA2gAgAJsn4A= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 17:24:50 +0000 Message-ID: References: <150055249283.9589.17482424577250077220@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.24.58.222] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_005_A5E26208902E41019542B5896342396Eciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-dhc-relay-port-05 X-BeenThere: int-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is for discussion between the members of the Internet Area directorate." 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Changed again of the paragraph in section 4 to below, thanks
to Ted who offerred the text:

&nbs= p;  Relay agents do not maintain state.  To return a message to i= ts
&nbs= p;  source, the relay agent must include all the required information = in
&nbs= p;  the Relay-Forward message.  When a relay in a sequence of cas= caded
&nbs= p;  relays does not use the standard source port, that source port mus= t
&nbs= p;  be included along with the source address.  This option allow= s the
&nbs= p;  relay agent to do so.

rfcdiff attached.

Cheers,
- Naiming

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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bernie Volz To: Cc: lwip@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, draft-ietf-lwig-energy-efficient.all@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.57.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150094520677.26176.17525876529879529582@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 18:13:26 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-lwig-energy-efficient-07 X-BeenThere: int-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "This list is for discussion between the members of the Internet Area directorate." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 01:13:27 -0000 Reviewer: Bernie Volz Review result: Ready with Nits I am an assigned INT directorate early reviewer for draft-ietf-lwig-energy-efficient-07. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the Internet Area Directors. Document editors and shepherd(s) should treat these comments just like they would treat comments from any other IETF contributors and resolve them along with any other comments that have been received. For more details on the INT Directorate, see http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate.html. I found the document's information interesting, and it is document that is benefical to the IETF community in understanding the impact energy savings techniques (mostly related to radios for wireless communication) can have on protocols (both at lower and higher layers). It is going for Informational status, which I think is appropriate for this document. All my comments are fairly minor nits. In section 1, "Only few efforts focused on" should likely be "Only few efforts have focused on"? (Add have) In section 1.1, I think this section can be removed as there are no uses of the RFC 2119 keywords. In section 2, there are a few technologies listed here that might use references; some do appear later but not all. It is usually a good question as to where references are best added since this is overview material. Those without any references are ITU-T G.9959 and MS/TP-BACnet. Also in Figure 2, it is too bad that some power value for listening (when not "actively" expecting a packet) isn't included since there is a claim that this can use more energy than transmitting, but it would also be a uJ/