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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 18:41:53 -0000 At Tue, 17 Jul 2018 19:40:24 +0200, dieter.sibold@ptb.de wrote: > in our reply from June 30 we described the measures we intended to take i= n order to address your concerns you expressed in your review from Jun 15 = of draft-ietf-ntp-bcp-06. In the meantime we added your proposed changes to= a new version of the draft. This version is not yet uploaded to the datatr= acker but accesssible under > https://github.com/denisreilly/ntp-bcp/blob/master/draft-ietf-ntp-bcp-07.= xml > We would very much appreciate if you could review the changes. Please let= us know if we addressed your concerns appropriately. Sorry for the delayed response...somehow it's been buried in my inbox. As it seems to contain some organizational changes I'm going over the entire text once again. I now understand my DISCUSS-level point is actually based on a wg consensus, so that's not an issue anymore. I hope I'll provide my revised review feedback tomorrow. -- JINMEI, Tatuya From nobody Wed Jul 25 16:31:36 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0E6130934; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 16:31:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.423 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.979, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bRjJQCl7wXVo; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 16:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lj1-f170.google.com (mail-lj1-f170.google.com [209.85.208.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC67D130E02; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 16:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f170.google.com with SMTP id f8-v6so8140623ljk.1; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 16:31:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3eBdmqZaD/YgDLPosTnlycJcF0P2u9PTQhT/M5CtyLI=; b=EITZByonO8jrjcLW68DQ7MSYUjwGqWgCY1mHQKH6eJpdxSOtfCS98YHbN4NoXbNR0k NpdTPkCXLJ1hjVPDzkYY+JbPLZ3l0E5M8TfftgVTNbgX6G6buP+bFMOnSXiIDAdkuiL5 fyaroWZuhGThJ6kXqHmkX66AMBsu3zdW93v+G9Sbgs8VvICAM19wqFLsNeEyngy3UKfx LskADApkjot5YVr9EE99edYFpxcEAKGHiUMWsXMIOjVu0VYY/mHx0c+ht+ciqtd2M12t DajUDaQDebQ3XgL0Z9NlIgxblHtNGc4os3yHpilIOEcuVaW05isB3RaiGa99DI7m9WIP +ghg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlE9TZc5BFGTeTTQkuEN4dfub9rKHg9UAKEJB8cS3wo/gslKFJsS 2ECba1ZMqkE1kD0H28hmCVul2GVhQcIQSzcE/pU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpfJgzmw2baVoAHJYyv6fsW8ZKiufdtXyuy/DY8oZ8QDOBTtX9g9SU7Sv7FF9wCZaiM7r6jZ3qSrnoF8xWw0q8g= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:5bc8:: with SMTP id m69-v6mr17810668lje.115.1532561491012; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 16:31:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References:

In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?B?56We5piO6YGU5ZOJ?= Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 16:31:19 -0700 Message-ID: To: dieter.sibold@ptb.de Cc: ntp-chairs@ietf.org, int-ads@tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-ntp-bcp@ietf.org, "" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ntp-bcp-06 X-BeenThere: int-dir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is for discussion between the members of the Internet Area directorate." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 23:31:35 -0000 At Tue, 17 Jul 2018 19:40:24 +0200, dieter.sibold@ptb.de wrote: > in our reply from June 30 we described the measures we intended to take i= n order to address your concerns you expressed in your review from Jun 15 = of draft-ietf-ntp-bcp-06. In the meantime we added your proposed changes to= a new version of the draft. This version is not yet uploaded to the datatr= acker but accesssible under > https://github.com/denisreilly/ntp-bcp/blob/master/draft-ietf-ntp-bcp-07.= xml > We would very much appreciate if you could review the changes. Please let= us know if we addressed your concerns appropriately. I've just re-reviewed the (pre) 07 version. It generally looks pretty good to me, addressing my comments. Regarding separating implementation ('ntpd') specific topics, I've noticed there are still a few places in the main text that refer to 'ntpd' - Section 4.4 If a system is using broadcast mode and is running ntp-4.2.8p6 or later, use the 4th field of the ntp.keys file to specify the IPs of machines that are allowed to serve time to the group. - Section 4.6.1 Clients that are connected to leap smearing servers MUST NOT apply the "standard" NTP leap second handling. So if they are using ntpd, these clients must never have a leap second file loaded, and the smearing servers must never advertise to clients that a leap second is pending. - Section 5.1: 'the server statement' sounds like ntpd specific. An NTP client establishes a protected association by appending the key to the server statement in its configuration file. Note that the NTP process has to trust the applied key. - Various places in Section 6 You may want to move these to the appendix, but I don't argue these are a DISCUSS-level issue, and I'd leave the decision to you. -- JINMEI, Tatuya From nobody Tue Jul 31 05:54:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: int-dir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FDB128B14; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 05:54:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=oroliagroup.onmicrosoft.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4woVZD_QdX-k; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 05:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EUR04-HE1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-eopbgr70043.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.107.7.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9499A1252B7; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 05:54:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=OROLIAGROUP.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-spectracom-orolia-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=waU8z/K1KaTHxyifv4bubpQ/BcOh9eQUudddnHZZy68=; b=hrYdKf2i2dWAlJnchxH4dlD0LnN3UUJ4cVU9hdlkYYsLoJtLoQgogtK+m3hpou4Kauu0t+Ds0flhQ2GQesnL2IWHeURHiLl5pId77/3/g3Jd9HMxc77gmpENjX4tz/IJPbqozszBjhExk5PDT3TCXLs8moFFNLwqgUR/xhLxmLg= Received: from AM3PR06MB1202.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.163.60.28) by AM3PR06MB1089.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.163.9.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.995.21; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:54:40 +0000 Received: from AM3PR06MB1202.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::89e3:51d8:3bd7:e0d9]) by AM3PR06MB1202.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::89e3:51d8:3bd7:e0d9%5]) with mapi id 15.20.0995.020; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:54:40 +0000 From: Denis Reilly To: =?utf-8?B?56We5piO6YGU5ZOJ?= , "dieter.sibold@ptb.de" CC: "ntp-chairs@ietf.org" , "int-ads@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-ntp-bcp@ietf.org" , "" Thread-Topic: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ntp-bcp-06 Thread-Index: AQHUBOVOvQPDB/gNgUmVEhGBN47MjaR42moAgAALTACAJ++sgIAIuMnw Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 12:54:40 +0000 Message-ID: References:

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